Perspektives: The R3SET with Mike WiLL Made-It

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Speaker 1: It gets no better than this. You are now June to respectives with big bang bang. Let's get straight to hey man, it's a beautiful day in the city of Atlanta, Georgia. Man. Right now we're locked in on Mike Wheel Boulevard.

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Speaker 2: Man, my brother, Man, cooler man at home, at home, don't real talk man, rest of three reset.

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Speaker 1: It's fine for that tonight. Man, y'all make sure y'all tap in the night man, get in on that reset.

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Speaker 2: I'm from their perspective. Man.

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Speaker 1: You know I've been waiting to get on here.

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Speaker 2: Bro. Man, you're good, feeling good, bron everything we manifested, Man, just seeing it come to light, even us coming out here and doing the interview outside. It's like it's supposed to rain today. It's a Sunday day. Everything working in our paper right now.

00:00:54
Speaker 1: Man, you know what I'm saying or locked in on that for your mentally man.

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Speaker 2: Mentally Man, I feel I felt great, Bro. I ain't gonna lie. I took some time away, took a step back, you know what I'm saying, for like nine years and we're just able to like reflect and just like even learning myself as a as a as a person, as a as a man like you know what I'm saying, like and and feel me like I took my time with it and like now I feel like I feel charged up. I ain't gonna lie to you. I lost my heart drives. I thought that was something, but I'm like, man, bro, now I got a cloud. You know what I'm saying. This cloud got twenty terror bytes full of new new new music.

00:01:37
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: Like I ain't never stopped working, but it's like, you know what I'm saying, Like you said, I had to get my mentor together, all them hikes and all that golfing and all that just sitting down, just chilling and taking your time. You feel me ship out?

00:01:50
Speaker 1: What would you say to people feel like you fell off? Like like we done fell out way yet what are you doing? Man? Nigga fell back? But no, I respected though, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: I respect what the say, Like a nigga fell off definitely if they, if they, if they so used to that hearing a nigga might what made it, might have made it. Or either seeing me on their favorite albums and all that ship and then I'm not on their favorite albums and I understand what niggas say, like, man, oh yeah the nigga, that nigga fell off man, because I'm not in their faith. But like I ain't nowhere near fall off man. I really just about I've been doing real estate. Like we were my third building right here. This is my newest building right here. You know what I'm saying. We got the whole compounds, three buildings. We call it, made it way, you know what I'm saying. And like this building right here, we're actually turning into a school, you know what I'm saying. And so like my focus had just shifted, you know what I'm saying. And it wasn't and it wasn't all for the camera. It wasn't all for the entertainment. It was really all for the like expanding the legacy and like you know what I'm saying, building the legacy and ship like that. But nah, man, nigga ain't fell off man.

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Speaker 1: So could you? Could You could have just never not did music no more like you came and made your money. Basically not for sure.

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Speaker 2: I could have definitely definitely retired, been done with this shit. Yeah you know what I'm saying. Say I was cool on music, but It's like I'm thirty six, bro, you feel me? Yeah, So like Jimmy, I been here. Every time I run into he always asked me, like, Mike, how do you know? Hey? Just remember I was forty when I started in the scope. You know what I'm saying. So he always puts that in perspective for me, you know what I'm saying. So it's like I look at it like, man, shit, I'm ja geting started, bro, Like I'm really jaking started, and I'm learning a lot. I've been able to learn a lot over these last years, you know what I'm saying. Even you know hindsight twenty twenty. So when you're able to got that look back and and pay certain shit attention, it's like, yeah, I could have, I could have hung it up. But it's like, man, I did. Man, I came, I came. I'm far from where I started, and I'm far from where I want to be, you know what I'm saying. But I'm everything I wish for as a teenager, you know what I'm saying. So like, man, one minute you set these goals and the next minute you got damn check them off, and then you gotta set all new goals. You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: So, yeah, Man, so this album who a you got on the album? Man? This ship loaded.

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Speaker 2: Man. So it's a lot of new collaborations, a lot of new faces, and a lot of people that you ever seen me like or the world has to see me like work with you know what I'm saying, necessarily Like, I got got, I mean, I got my bad bro I got I got fucking Savage, I got Side Baby, I got Thug, I got Tezo Touchdown, I got Luthera Chris, I got nb A Young Boy, I got Chief Keeth, I got a siege for Rum. I got Selo Green, I got Sway Lee, I got Tip Young Joe, Killer Mike, I even got I even got a vintage juice man joint on that shout out the Juice I like that. Man that Sea one too big Man, shout out to Sea Loot. That's always been one of my favorite You know what I'm saying, That's what the goats out of the city.

00:04:58
Speaker 1: Bro, how you lose your heart? Drive though?

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Speaker 2: Man fucking around and just you know it's crazy.

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Speaker 1: I had I had.

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Speaker 2: I used to just let my engineer like hold my drives. You know what I'm saying, and his car got broken into, and he was in the hond that court, he was working on the mix. He left his laptop on the seat he was on the hond the court sit got broken into. They were really going for the laptop with my drives, and my backup was in his bag. You know what I'm saying, So boom. He was like, man, man, bro, I lost his drives. He felt bad about it. So like it was at that time, it was devastating to me because I always go to my drives and I might take this verse from years ago and put this person with that person. I might just be able to put these weird collaborations together that end up big. Or I might be able to take this verse and put on another beat or speed it up or do all that kind of stuff. So like that's that was my everything at that time. But I was really looking at that ship like all right, cool man, Bro, you just you just you just graduated. Bro. I don't know what God trying to show you, but you're trying to show you something, man, because at the end of the day, you to want to grabb me, you to put some young niggas on. You had a lot of success, your labor deal don't fulfilled, and now you done lost your heart drive. So shit, start over and start investing in other ship. And that's what really started. Give me the invest in real estate and invest in buildings and all types of shit. And it's funny because like five years later after that shit, it's like I don't know if my I don't know my angina was too high or what.

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: For five years after that ship, he said, Yo, I think I found a backup in the store, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: So you find music.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what's on that drive. To be real with you, I still don't have that drive, you know what I'm saying. Like that man, he said, he find a backup with a lot of the ship. But by that time, I'm already on my new journey.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: So I overcame that. I got a new sound, got new producers. Still got the same producers, but I got new producers on the team. We got a new sound, we got new music, we got new collaborations, we got it's just all new energy. So it's like like the energy we didn't feel right when he came back about them drive. So I just go back and I'm gonna look at them one day. But you know what I'm saying, My focus is so on this new chapter and this new reset, and it's new, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, and hopefully I can go back and visit that music from a decade you know what I'm saying, decade from the past, you feel me. But it was really like after I did Big Facts, that's really when my fuckers started popping up with files and all types of shit, like, oh man, he just say something about the drives.

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Speaker 1: Now I found this in the story. If you feel me, you know what I'm saying. So it's all good, though, Man, good, I'm saying that that ship kind of do something to your mental kind of fuck you up at like sure, because I couldn't.

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Speaker 2: I couldn't understand it because it ain't never happened to me, you know what I'm saying. But I know a lot of people go through that ship. Man. They lose they lose files, they lose their hard drives and all that type of shit. And I won't trying to let it fuck with me too much. The good thing about it was I didn't. I didn't lose that ship. When I was like on my dick like dead broke or something, I'm saying I lost that ship. I was still getting nominated for a Grammy with Kendrick. I just dropped a classic with Trouble. You know what I'm saying. I God, damn man, meet you me and you got damn plotting and planning on media.

00:08:11
Speaker 1: Shit.

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Speaker 2: You're telling me about my next run and how I need to fuck with these new artists and all. It was like it was really the right time. But like at that time for me, it was like, man, just think about it. If you had a car and then somebody say like, man, or I lost your car, and then it's like, man, you might get up and be like, man, I gotta go. I gotta go to the store, like quitting you were like, oh damn, you got my car. You know what I'm saying. So it'll fuck with me like that. And it really fucked with me cause I really couldn't understand it because I was like blue flame hot, I'm twenty eight years old, and then it's like, damn, what you mean, Like you know what I'm saying, So I don't even know what that means. I really was like, man, maybe I need to just start pushing my team, you feel me. And so even when I lost the hard drive, man like thirty Rock. I put thirty Rock with Roddy Rich. They did the Box, you know what I'm saying. I put Man, you know fast. You know what I'm saying. Swaly did a song with post Alone, which ended up being my boy David and Austin Rosen's artist, you know what I'm saying. And and boom we put this on the Spider Man soundtrack and that's the biggest stream song in the world and history of music. You know what I'm saying.

00:09:15
Speaker 1: Some flower Oh yeah, yeah, world up man, the biggest you said is.

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Speaker 2: What That's the most stream song in the world and the history of music. I don't even know. Like last time I checked it with Double Diamond, you know what I'm saying. There's a lot of them, you.

00:09:29
Speaker 1: Know what I'm saying, Double Like they got over with double down. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: And then and then thirty Rouck went Diamond with the Box, you know what I'm saying. And then a lot of my songs, like my songs never stopped playing, you know what I'm saying. They were still playing. So even when that ship was going on, it was just like it was a lot of highs, but it was like a low but it was like ship. But you can't lay down, you know what I'm saying. You either got to be an air Lass coach or if you're gonna be. And then I've realized being an air Lass coach, you gotta be, you gotta leave by example, so you damn the gotta move like like you know what I'm saying, I just gotta damn there, just get back in the game. Leave by example. And then that's what I've been doing. That's when I'm I made my mind up, Like man, you know I'm gonna do another project. You know what I'm saying.

00:10:14
Speaker 1: You think at first you was chasing like the same us that was on a hard drive, like trying to work with the same artist that was on the hard drive instead of trying to you know, plant seeds and build some new niggas.

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Speaker 2: Like yeah, exactly, That's exactly what was going on. And that's what I had to start realizing it and looking at it ass. I'm like, man, you know what, I'm gonna buy all new equipment. I used to use an NPC and Fruity Loose. I'm gonna keep them in the studio, but I'm gonna get the ASR ten, I'm gonna get the Super six. I'm gonna get a whole bunch of modules and synthesizers and stuff that I ain't never used. You know what I'm saying. I got I got a control board. You know what I'm saying. My man mark as my engineering You know what I'm saying. I had him pull in because at first I just had bought the first building, and I used to just be up here playing the video game all day. You know what I'm saying, I ain't know what I wanted to do. But then I start putting studio equipment in there, slowly but surely, and then I start realizing, like, man, it's a hat like right now and over these last like I say, five to six years, or even ten years, it's like the changing of the guards. Like it's like a whole new regime, you know what I'm saying. So anytime I come across somebody that's talented or that moved me or inspire me, I'm like, hey, man, you know what, you can record in my studio for free, whenever you want to. Man, look this is my production team. Hey look this is my god da da da. This my god da da da. This my god da da da. You know what I'm saying, Man, let's set you up on a schedule and let's knock out a project with you.

00:11:35
Speaker 1: You feel me?

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Speaker 2: So it definitely was that. It was like, man, shit, I needed my own studios because I was booking all these other studios and I'll stay in there twelve to fifteen hours a day. I'm spending about you know what I'm saying, three thousand dollars a day, four thousand dollars a day for a session, you know what I'm saying. So in ten days, that's forty thousand. When I started looking at it like that, or twenty days, it's eighty thousand, like you know what I'm saying. I started looking at it like that, I'm like, hey, man, man, how much is my posts? You do really saying, like, man, how much is the buyer building? Though? You know what I'm saying. And then that's why I'm like, Okay, man, we're gonna we're gonna do everything this go around new. We're gonna be in a new building, you know, what I'm saying, we come with a new approach. We got a new attitude. Man, nigga working working out, a nigga got Dan playing golf. You know what I'm saying. It's just it's all the way different. It's the reset all the way around.

00:12:23
Speaker 1: What you think just taking that ill at the time, you thought was like the biggest ill ever? What you think? What do you think that shit taught you? Though?

00:12:31
Speaker 2: Patience?

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: Sh It taught me patience and it taught me like I even have put out a trailer for my album and I was talking about it, but like the trailer for that album was really about it wasn't really just about that situation. It was really just like the bigger picture of that of that trailer was was really for like anybody whoever lost anything, Like you know what I'm saying. So like sometime you might lose something and then you might be like, damn lost everything, man, and then you develop self doubt and then you get down on yourself and then you just want to give up and you just want to you know what I'm saying, And then you gotta realize, like, man, hold on, man, it's really like God's gift, Like this ain't even like I ain't even in control of this, Like I'm so I'm so small, I'm so microscopic to this shit, you know, I mean, the in the grand stream of things in the earth. So it's like at the end of the day, I gotta look at it, like, man, shit, it is really God's gift. I'm talented this far, and I'm still young for real. I'm not young, but I'm young for real, you know what I'm saying. And it's like I'm thirty thirty, I'm in my thirties. I'm like, man, you know what, Man, I'm the hard drive. I looked at my I looked at my new looked at my clouds face, and I saw that we had like damn there twenty terror bytes of files and all types of different shit. That's why I'm like, Man. Then I had to start really looking at at it, like man, Okay, it's fifty two weeks in the year. The music store is open every Friday, you know what I'm saying. And you got the production company, you make someone music every day. Y'all really need to be dropping every Friday. The music store is open. Somebody from the squad need to be dropping something every Friday, you know what I'm saying. And so I really started really paying attention to the business and everything too. So like when I when I thought I took that air, I was able to take a step back first, which is patience, and then look at the bigger picture and be like, man, okay, like what what's really going on? So when we do, when we do reapproach the ship, when we do go back to putting out music, when we do, when I am talking to my team and everything like that, now it's not like I'm going over here, I'm going over there, I'm doing all these interviews or I'm in these are all these sessions, like I'm right here, I'm right here, I'm touched, I'm tangible, I'm touching, I'm touchable. I'm accessible in the city of Atlanta. Where you know what I'm saying. You know what I'm saying, I'm accessible, I'm accessible.

00:15:02
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Look at yourself. Do you think you you forced to reset because you never would have liked Yeah.

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Speaker 2: And you know what's crazy? You know what I'm saying, Like, you're right when when shit is lit, Man, that's where really where I was getting at. Man, you might get booked over here. You might get pulled one hundred ways when it is licked, you know what I'm saying. But when ship ain't lit, man, motherfuck might not pick up the phone for you. Motherfucker might not you know what I'm saying. Shit started quieting down, you know what I'm saying, which is a blessing. So now you can sit your ad down and think, you know what I'm saying. Now you got time to go hike. Now you got time to sit down. And I got tied to sit down and chop it with people like you or you know what I'm saying, even people that I looked at like look at like mentors or you know what I'm saying, even spend more time with my family and all that kind of shit. And I was blessed enough to not sink, you know what I'm saying while that ship was going on. So, man, this ship was all a blessing for real.

00:15:57
Speaker 1: You think everybody ship, every ever create, create, creative person should take a reset.

00:16:02
Speaker 2: Yeah, nah, for sure.

00:16:04
Speaker 1: What's the benefits of it?

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Speaker 2: Like I said, man, it's just it's just it's it's that quiet time, like I don't know if you ever, like if anybody whoever watching this, like ever live by theirself, they'll understand, like, man, that's silent time that you get, like before you're about to lay down or right when you wake up. It's like it's like that time. It's like it's like that. But it's hard though, when your ship is so lit and you know what I'm saying, or like you're creative and you have emotion, you can't really call like hey, man, you know what, I'm gonna take a reset, you know what I'm saying, Or you know what, I'm gonna just sit down and I'm gonna just reflect on everything, and I'm gonna just you can't, you know what I'm saying.

00:16:42
Speaker 1: You gotta keep hustling, so shake your confidence a little bit.

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Speaker 2: Though, for sure, for sure, for sure, it definitely developed self doubt, you know what I'm saying. And and then I had to realize, like, man, fuck, I'm dumbing myself for it, like you know what I'm saying. Yeah, Like I'm in here making beats, but even the beats I'm making, I'm like, man, this shit, ain't you know what I'm saying? Or like, you know what I'm saying, or like, hey, I'm so excited about this new artist or this producer or that.

00:17:12
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, man, y'all the one Bro Hey back in my day like that, and I'm thinking, I'm like Bro thirty one talking about back when I was you know what I'm saying, all that, brother, it's time right now because I had to realize, like the people that I was looking up to, like for real, Kanye West or you know what I'm saying, anybody like that, like they was in their thirties, their late twenties, and they thirties when they got damn halfshit blue hot. You know what I'm saying. We just happened to have shit blue hot in our early twenties, you know what I'm saying. So it's like, man, even when we got hit with the pandemic, I know a lot of people were able to sit down and reevaluate their whole shit. And then when you know what I'm saying, when we were let back outside, you know what I'm saying, we were able to hit the ground running and like shit, man, you already know we went through the Resehut together. You know what I'm saying, we went through the reset together, my boy looking like a whole new man out.

00:18:00
Speaker 1: You got platforms with that. I forgot. The reset is real.

00:18:09
Speaker 2: The reset is real. You know what I'm saying. We did that ship, you know what I'm saying, what real?

00:18:15
Speaker 1: Hey, you feel like did you see people like trying to feel like that? Did you notice people like like that ship over? Did you like, did you feel that energy from Piers? At first?

00:18:28
Speaker 2: At first, I at first I looked at it like that. But then I but then I had to realize. I started looking at this ship like, man, okay, you got the music industry, you got the food industry, you got you know what I'm saying. You got all these different kind of industries, you know what I'm saying. And and within the food industry, you got all these different kinds of corporations. So I'm like, Damn, I ain't never seen fucking Oreo, you know what I'm saying, post anything about the new Ladies or like the new Gatorade or like you know what I'm saying, Or like, I ain't never seeing like Oreo do something with Gatorade, you know what I'm saying. But then I did see Coca Cola do something with Oreo, you know what I'm saying. And it was only for a season. That it was only for a time, but still I still haven't seen like everything Coca Cola released end up on oreos feed or or or public service announcement or whatever. So I had to look at that like, and that's the food industry, and that's just us going to the grocery store and shopping and just looking around. And and then I had to start looking at it like, okay, the music industry the same thing, So like, don't nobody know what going on me? They know at first they were seeing me. I was moving around, they were seeing me, and I was outside or I was right here. I was tangible. But then all of a sudden, it's like all Star weekend, Grammy weekend, this weekend, that weekend, this festival, that festival. Now we don't even see Mike well, so it's really like out of sight, out of mind.

00:19:48
Speaker 1: And saying now I'm saying, what about do you feel like you know how you can feel that shit like you think to fell off?

00:20:00
Speaker 2: But one of the four one of the four agreements is what and don't take nothing personal? You know what I'm saying, we ain't taking the person Yeah. So so look, I used to take it personally when I'm when I'm looking at it like.

00:20:12
Speaker 1: That, I'm saying, that's the quesse you felt like that and you was taking it personally, but then you your mind.

00:20:18
Speaker 2: I had to I had to realize that, nigga is it's not them looking at me or a certain kind of way. Nigga, you not putting out music, you ain't around. You know what I'm saying, You're not around, So I'm not they don't feel no kind of way about me. I would hope that ain't nobody waking up in the morning like yeah nigga, that nigga might you know what I'm.

00:20:37
Speaker 1: Saying that, But you know it do be niggas like that though, Bron, I don't know, Bro, I know you know and I know man, it's niggas like that, like niggas can't wait to laugh at another nigga by just how it go like.

00:20:51
Speaker 2: On the lower Boy, I got nothing through it money or that and we're going on over up but but but but their type of nigga. Bro, I ain't gonna lie them nigga going through something then, Bro, you know what I'm saying. That's that's what I Yeah, what I had to realize over this time. I'm like, man, them Nigga gone through something. But then and I used to and I used to God Damn taking a certain kind of way where like, okay, ship if I if I dropped this one, because I was even over these times, even though even though I want dropping the album. You know what I'm saying, over this time, I was still dropping a little loose songs. Man, I'm not looking at somebody to like post this ship or anything like that, because nigga, they got their own motion, they got their own thing going on. But if a niggas sent over there thinking like, oh boy, that nigga got Damn, might well threw the money. Come on, they gonna hear about it. By the nigga did about three buildings over there. But that nigga got seventy eighty thousand square feet in the city of Aletand you know what I'm saying, That Nigga got between his team them, Nigga got Damn there ten diamond records. You know what I'm saying, That Nigga got man one of the biggest streaming rap songs. In History Humble.

00:21:52
Speaker 1: How you feel what niggas try to make it seem like like Mike ain't doing the beats, Like that's another nigga like his team doing in Hitside. How you feel a niggas in it? So you don't heard that before?

00:22:05
Speaker 2: Yeah, I hadn't heard something like that before. I ain't gonna lie. I hear all the chatter. You know what I'm saying, ain't lie.

00:22:10
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna lie. I hear.

00:22:11
Speaker 2: I hear all the chatter. Will I choose a respond or? Well, I choose not to respond.

00:22:16
Speaker 1: How you feel?

00:22:17
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, Like when I when I feel that, it's just like ignorant, Like, Okay, this nigga is ignorant. He's stupid, you know what I'm saying, because he don't know what a production company is. You know what I'm saying, I'm breaking out. Yeah, I'm a producer that started a production company. You know what I'm saying. So I'm the executive of the production company. I started Ear Drummers in two thousand and seven when I was in high school. Ear Drummers started off with just Mike Will made it. You know what I'm saying. Yeah, and it was a one man band. You know what I'm saying. I met shot at Low when I was like fifteen sixteen out there in car at Club Q. He used to let me come to the studio over there on the West side, D four L Studio right down Bankhead.

00:22:52
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

00:22:53
Speaker 2: You see them, see them work, you see them take their songs right there to Pool Palace. You know what I'm saying, Take the crucial and n have a move men in the city. You know what I'm saying. When I met you, Ear Drummers was a one man band. That was two thousand and seven when I was moving around with with that artist. Back then, we pulled that to your spot. But HALLI you know what I'm saying. Boom like man, that was two thousand and seven. I was a one man band then when I had I was fucking. I was sucking the underground up like I had the mixtape ship going crazy. But I'm like, man, what's the difference between me and like a little John or.

00:23:25
Speaker 1: Like you making them just your beats? Yeah, Gucci Gucci beats like that Before that was just you. Yeah.

00:23:33
Speaker 2: But even back then I still wrote with my boy a plus, we were going to high school with each other.

00:23:38
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, look like.

00:23:42
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. But but, but Gucci was getting on the beat. So I was cooking up in the basement, and I was teaching my boys Schooly how to make beats. So a couple of them beats, you know what I'm saying. Schooley might have added some sounds to it, but I was teaching him how to make beats, you know what I'm saying. So back then, back then, it was like, man, okay, like I'm seeing Doctor Dre, I'm seeing Kanye West, I'm seeing all these different producers. I'm like, damn, Like these niggas make beats. But they also got a production team. Okay, I need to build me a production team. So I need to give me a whole bunch of like minded people that think like me as far as like being different and like pushing the Soign forward and god damn, and people that get the vision, and then I need to build me a team. So at first, people were looking at it like, man, you know, Mike, We'll got a team, bro. You know any other niggas over there making beets?

00:24:29
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

00:24:30
Speaker 2: But it's like at the end of the day, like like when it when it comes to production. This is how I look at it, right, It's just math, you know what I'm saying. We ain't even gotta go algebra and all that. We can go simple math. Addition and subtraction. Subtract me out of any song that my name is on, and then what do we have? You know what I'm saying.

00:24:48
Speaker 1: Look breaking down, you said what.

00:24:49
Speaker 2: Subtract my name? Subtract me out of any song that we have.

00:24:54
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. From the initial of you're saying, to take you out of it, not your name, To take you remove you won't happen, you know what I'm saying.

00:25:03
Speaker 2: Because this artist might have never linked with this guy who made this beat or this this guy who made this beat would have never known to take it to this artist, you know what I'm saying. And then when when we do take it to this artist and the artist is like, nah, this guy might have not showed up to the studio ten times and played this one beat for the same artists like you know what I'm saying, or might or he might not be crazy enough to just be like bro, I'm telling you get on this one, like get on that one, like you know what I'm saying. So that right there, boom, you're putting that play together. Then you structure in the song. Then you mixing the record. Then you're putting this and you're putting this feature on there, or you're putting this, are you putting this like person to add some keys on their additional production or whatever. Whatever you're doing, you're producing the record. You might be executive producing the record, but you're you're producing the record. And one thing I learned about production is like to be a super producer, man, you gotta be able to produce a song from from top to bottom, hands on, hands off, you know what I'm saying. So it was a time where I could make the beat, I can write the song, I can engineer, I could I could do I can mix it, I could do all that ship you know what I'm saying. And then there was another time where I met this dude and he can he can mix, you know what I'm saying.

00:26:14
Speaker 1: I met this dude. Man, this dude ain't seeing how you feel with the biggat say that, but but I think I think you.

00:26:26
Speaker 2: Be the trade in real life ain't it ain't it ain't it ain't really meet you know, it ain't really media training.

00:26:32
Speaker 1: You just don't give it.

00:26:33
Speaker 2: I feel like I feel like, I mean, everybody got feelings, but I feel like I feel like feeling feel like you.

00:26:41
Speaker 1: Go harder, like and show the nigga like make you feel like, Okay, this is my battery. You know what I'm saying. You know what I'm saying.

00:26:47
Speaker 2: I ain't gonna lie. I used to do it for the hay's, not do it for the believers. I don't care about no nigga, bro.

00:26:52
Speaker 1: I don't care. I don't care about I don't care about that ship.

00:26:55
Speaker 2: Like if a niggas yeah you know, yeah, if a nigga over there sitting sitting there and contemplating in his head out me, yeah about me and he don't even know me. He don't know my sister name, he don't know ship about me. You know what I'm saying. I don't I don't like women operating their feelings.

00:27:16
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I'm a man time. You know what I'm saying. So I'm not I all have Yeah, we all come initial thought. See that why I got a stop. I gotta stop thinking about my initial thought that Nigga is an idiot.

00:27:30
Speaker 2: I said that from the jump, that Nigga stupid as fun.

00:27:32
Speaker 1: Saying I be stupid too, Like when I hear certain ship and it makes me feel a way, but I don't go there. Yeah, so I just won't speaking like my initial thought.

00:27:40
Speaker 2: Of it, Like, damn, niggas is my initial thought. Bro, when I hear that ship, I'll be like, Damn, that's unfortunate. Bro, that's Nigga ignorant. You know what I'm saying, real talk because he don't know me. You know what I'm saying. Anybody who know me, or anybody who knows okay, he got two sisters, or you know what I'm saying, his mama, name, your dad, name, anybody who really on me. They're gonna tell you I'm a savant. They're gonna tell you I'm a leader. They're gonna tell y'all. You know what I'm saying. They gonna they're gonna say everything that this person might not be saying.

00:28:09
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

00:28:09
Speaker 2: So this person right here, I gotta understand that even in the position that I'm in, you could put a tree right here many folks gonna say the same shit. It's just it just comes with being on top, you know what I'm saying. Motherfucker always gonna try to talk down and pull down the nigga that's on top, you know what I'm saying. So so once a nigga on top, nigga like man oh man, the nigga gonna be making their beats, them saying, nigga ain't gonna take sacrifices for their team.

00:28:33
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

00:28:34
Speaker 2: I took sacrifices for my team, like real ones, you know what I'm saying. Like, and we came from nothing and we turned that ship into something. So all of them we got multiple millionaires. We all started off in a negative. We all started out broke as fuck, you know what I'm saying. Hey, man, hey, I ain't tell you how how the first publishing situation went right. So look, man, boom, you know, tw eleven, we had all the songs in the mixed say, all the all the songs on the street, everything in Atlanta, all the all the strip clubs, everything was on everybody mixhaping all that shit. Then next thing, you know, twenty twelve, we get three songs on the charts this whole time. I ain't had no manager or nothing. I ain't had no publishing deal. I ain't have nothing. Turn on the lights on the charts. Bands maker dance on the charts. Uh no, lie on the charts. You know what I'm saying, Boom. I got all the songs in the strip club and I'm at every single studio round here. But we ain't making no money off the music industry. The only time we're making money is if somebody buy a beat like but I heard it beat. Let me get a beat like that. That's the only time we're making money. We ain't know how to get no back in. We know how to get no front in. We know how to get nothing. You know what I'm saying. So boom, fast forward all these all these companies calling me, and they like, man, shit, broh. You know what I'm saying. We got six we got six figures for you, man, we're trying to sign you.

00:29:48
Speaker 1: Man.

00:29:48
Speaker 2: I was like, man, I got a whole production team. Man, I can't. I can't. I can't take it. You know what I'm saying. I'm dead broke, I'm crack man, I'm on my I'm on a rock bottom. You know what I'm saying. I'm like, man, I can't take it.

00:29:58
Speaker 1: Man.

00:29:58
Speaker 2: They're like, they're like nine six figures, like it's for you, you know what I'm saying. Like, I'm like, nah, I got a whole production team, and they're like, man, but all we here, Mike well made it, I said, But you also hear ear drummers too. Every time you hear Mike what made it? You hear ear drummers too. You just don't know what ear drummers is. You know what I'm saying, I need a joint venture. You know what I'm saying. They're like, we can't do that. Man. I'm like, man, look if y'all give me that six figure that y'all talking about, the only thing, the only thing that I the only thing that I could do with that six figures is God damn chop that six figures up and split it with my guys, and guess what we're gonna end up and pay taxes. We're gonna end right back where we started on broke, you know what I'm saying. So everybody need their own money, you feel me? Man? I held out until fucking Big John had made a move you know what I'm saying. From I and My You know what I'm saying. Big John had made a move from ian My to Warner. That was his first deal that he did was with Ear Drummers. He did the joint venture. That's when I got my first money and the rest of my team got my got their money. And I wasn't gonna take no money from this music industry until all my guys were able to get money, you know what I'm saying. And and that's what and that and that's because these guys signed me for free, you feel me. So a lot of them niggas that are sitting around with all that. Whatever they say about Mike Will, they never did that. You know what I'm saying. They're not taking them second fight. They gonna take the first check. It'say fucking niggas, you know what I'm saying.

00:31:25
Speaker 1: Yeah, So it's like, so, how many of your niggas like still locked in that were locked in from the beginning.

00:31:31
Speaker 2: Ship all of them? Man, my boy p over there right now, he working on something. You know what I'm saying. Mars still locked in, plus still locked then Jabo's still locked in. You know what I'm saying my boy thirty rock Shrimp. You know what I'm saying, Like my boy all from high school, my boy plus from high school. You know what I'm saying, all of them locked in, the ones that the core, the ones that really matter, the ones that got them built this ship up. Like everybody locked in.

00:31:57
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Right up? So you think this project about growth or what is about?

00:32:06
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's definitely about growth, man, because it's like, man, we came in the game going against the grain, and it's like, man, we fucked around and started start shifting shit, going against the grain, and then like our sound became so popular. Like it's crazy when we're when we're our trap sound, we were trying to do like trap pop type shit, like you know what I'm saying. We were trying to push the trap sounding and see how far how popular we can make that shit, you know what I'm saying. So when we're working with somebody like a Miley Cyrus, so we're doing songs like turn on the Lights and having Future going that bad or like you know what I'm saying, doing doing like different even Race Shremmer, you know what I'm saying, that was like a trap pop. Like once that shit started like pushing beyond Atlanta, Georgia, the United States, you know what I'm saying, and just our hemisphere, it's like, now that shit became a popular sound. So then that shit just started becoming just too you know what I'm saying, just started becoming bubblegum because it was like everybody could just do this or everybody putting this ship under the filter. Everybody everybody just doing what we're doing. And that's the best form of flattery. But man, to come back and come with a new sound, you know what I'm saying, that sound fresh, and then work with new artists that like, why be telling me, man, I was in middle school when you dropped twenty three. I'm like, God, damn, you know what I'm saying. But to come and get hy b a new challenge and beat or a new sound or do something different or you know what I'm saying, and like taught that language with like a whole new generation. Man, that shit, that shit is dope. So it's like, man, I feel like, yeah, this new album is like a new sound, that's new collaborations, but it's still it's still stuck to the basics. It's still like, Okay, Mike Will putting together different ass collaborations. He's still bringing a new sound to different artists, and and the shits still knocking.

00:33:52
Speaker 1: Like, you know what I'm saying, Why nigga say you're difficult to work with? I am?

00:33:57
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

00:33:58
Speaker 1: I am.

00:33:59
Speaker 2: I'm challenging, challenging producer. You feel me like I ain't. I ain't one of them producers. That's like, just wow, this got on my beat. Well according to my phone, you know what I'm saying, or trying to got there. You know what I'm saying, I ain't doing that. Like every win come with a challenge. You know what I'm saying, Every win was difficult. But I ain't never heard Kobe Bryant or Michael Jordan or any of the great say, man, this shit was easy as a motherfucker. But I just walked in there and just everybody just let me go to the hole.

00:34:25
Speaker 1: And you know what I'm saying.

00:34:27
Speaker 2: It was strategy, it was thought, it was you know what I'm saying, them changing Steph Curry, changing the game, shooting from half court. You know what I'm saying, that's what That's what made the Warriors got damn be the Warriors. He spaced out the floor, you know what I'm saying, Like Kobe Bryant, I mean Michael Jordan coming through, how he coming through?

00:34:42
Speaker 1: He changed the game? You feel me?

00:34:43
Speaker 2: So like with me, it's like the reason why they say it's difficult is because like nobody's nobody ever understands innovation, you know what I'm saying. So if you, if you, if you're an artist and you and you have a certain sound, you know what I'm saying, and somebody trying to you're something new and something different or like trying to get you to do something different, and it's like, man, brother, they got kind of you know what I'm saying, kind on tight shit, Like you.

00:35:08
Speaker 1: Know, Brott, ask you something. The niggas that you have worked with, I don't know if they do one saying you difficult, but like what's difficult is like do it don't happen? Or do y'all make do y'all make a hit? Or like what's difficult?

00:35:21
Speaker 2: Like Nah, the difficult part is like to get somebody out of their comfort zone. That's just difficult in life on all levels, you know what I'm saying. So when you're trying to when you're trying to move like I ain't in there on no shit, Like hey man, I ain't on no drill, sergeant like wear that ass shit. I'm just always coming in there on some man, let's try this, you know what I'm saying.

00:35:42
Speaker 1: Have niggas ever been and try some shit and win with you?

00:35:45
Speaker 2: But every time that what I'm saying is it's difficult to win, you know what I'm saying. Nobody can say they work with me and happened one though, you know what I'm saying. Some people can say they work with me and I was difficult. Some people could work with me. It's a lot of artists that work with me and be like, bro, you know what, I love working with you, brother, because how open it is and how and how like this ship just flows. Like you know what I'm saying, It ain't really like you don't You're not really stuck in a box like you trying different ship. Some artists appreciate that ship. Some artists is like, man, I mean you to everybody just coming in here hopping on a deck, man, Like you know what I'm saying, this coming in here, God damn trying to do some different ship trying to God damn talk about this and that or or some kind of different idea. Put me on the song with this nigga, so like, man, man, get up, Like man, he too different. But it's like and I understand that too. Yeah, I got a vision. But when it's all said and done, after the difficulty happens, man, we win. That's how that matters, you feel me like, And I feel like that's how that's how like a man. That's that's how every champion. Man, what they say, hard work and dedication, you know what I'm saying. So like, man, boy, you gotta work hard, you gotta be dedicated. You just gotta stay down man, Like That's why I love the game golf, man, because that shit is difficult as fun. But you know what I'm saying, You already know how I go. Man, You swing that more fucking right. You keep your head down, you say, folk, can you just trust that club? You know what I'm saying, That more fuck gonna send it right where you wanted to go. You know what I'm saying, ward it up. But I feel like, man, I feel like I don't know that. I feel like that's a good thing. Man, I feel like all artists should be challenged, man, you know what I'm saying. Like, as as a producer, I don't think producers should just be running in there super excited about you know what I'm saying, somebody rapping on their beat or god damn, just excited to be in the room.

00:37:31
Speaker 1: I get it, you know what I'm saying.

00:37:32
Speaker 2: But like, nah, like to change the game and and and to be at where I want to be at when I when I touched my first beat machine, I talk about something. Man, I'm be on top of the game one day. Man, i'ma be running this ship in some sort one day. Like if I'm do this, I already quit baseball, basketball, football, Pops is already on me. Like, man, you keep quitting everything. I'm like, Man, I ain't gonna quit this music. I'm gonna be that nigga when the kind of this music. So it's like, man, the only way you could be that nigga, Man, you gotta you gotta stand up. I can't fit in. You know what I'm saying, Go stand out up?

00:38:04
Speaker 1: Do you think do you think it's how important do you think it is to like be raised by that and you just hear that, Like how important you think that ship is?

00:38:16
Speaker 2: Man, that ships so important because you gotta you gotta as a man, you gotta be able to feel. You gotta be able to feel the heavy hand of a man like you gotta be able to you know what I'm saying, Man, this nigga old Paul. No, but no, you gotta do yeah. Yeah, as a man, you gotta yeah, you gotta be able to be checked. And you gotta be able to have a man tell you, man, shut the fuck up. And you can't say nothing of your gonna get stuck in your ship or you're gonna get your ad wark.

00:38:52
Speaker 1: It ain't no fight, you know what I'm saying.

00:38:54
Speaker 2: So like once you get that, now you now you're able when you get out here in the real world, you can take a straight or you can, you know what I'm saying. You can let certain ship roll off your sleeve.

00:39:03
Speaker 1: You can.

00:39:03
Speaker 2: You can listen to the message and not not be mad at the tone of voice or anything like that, because you know what I'm saying.

00:39:10
Speaker 1: Like, you know what I'm saying.

00:39:10
Speaker 2: You ain't gotta be Yeah, you ain't gotta be no beach. But it's like you gotta open ear, you know what I'm saying. So I feel like I feel like, man, that's real important, and shout out to my pops. Like my parents divorced when I was when I was young, like in elementary school, but pops stayed right around the corner, you know what I'm saying. So even seeing my parents divorce, I was able to see them start over, you know what I'm saying, and like and like work hard and like grind it up on their own and you know what I'm saying, and start all the way up. I was able to see them reset back then.

00:39:42
Speaker 1: The difference is with a niggas that was just raided just by just only females.

00:39:48
Speaker 2: Sometimes like when it comes when when when when situations, when situations get tough, This what I noticed, When situations get tough and you go to, hey, bro, why the fuck this happened? You know what I'm saying, The nigga might feel extra try because I ain't no nigga ever talked to them like a nigga like I don't talk to me like that. Ain't no nigga talking to me like that, you know what I'm saying, Cause the nigga ain't never got CHECKINGI ain't got no older brother, no uncle, no dad, or that nigga just used to mom like hey stop boy, or like you know what I'm saying, throwing them throwing them blows that don't don't hurt, you know what I'm saying. So like sometimes sometimes they end up having to having to like, you know what I'm saying, eat humble pie. In another way in life, you know what I'm saying, and shi word, you know what I'm saying that that's what I know. That is just in business or just in this world or just you know what I'm saying. Moving around and.

00:40:36
Speaker 1: Ship the state of the state of the music ship. Do you feel like I'm gonna try this ship? Do this like how you feel about your music period? I love this ship, bro. You know what I'm saying about the whole the climate of the whole ship. I feel like I feel like it. I feel like right now it's the changing of the guards. I feel like a lot of people playing it safe, you know what I'm saying. I feel like a lot of people trying to ride the next person wave, or even I feel like, you know what I'm saying, people too caught up and with this person doing or this person doing instead of just creating. Like you know what I'm saying, like, man, this is what we're doing. This is how we moving, this how were dressing, it's how we sound. And you know what I'm saying, I feel like that's missing from the game because when I was growing up watching the music game, that's how it was. Like everybody.

00:41:21
Speaker 2: Everybody had their own cruise, everybody had their own style of music, everybody had their own like way did they dress and different stuff like that. So like that's what made it like even cool. That's what made people say these kind of words or say this or say that. And I just feel like right now, like people done got so comfortable with either just redoing the song or you know what I'm saying, remixing one of their old songs, and it's just so easy where it's like it don't cost no money. That got them dropped. Well, it costs money to drop an album, but it don't you don't got to go press up no CDs and shit and ship it out. You feel me like, you can get this shit done and and throw this shit out there digitally. And if this shit started working a little bit digital and you got this, this person trying to pour in on it.

00:42:03
Speaker 1: You feel me, you're saying, you basically saying, ain't no one way to win. And people got damn try. If niggas ain't got damn in their little pack, you really got damn different. So niggas try to make you different basically, you know what I'm saying. So ship like, niggas do that, Like if you got your own mind, your own state on how you think ship should go, Niggas be like, oh this nigga always think. You know, nigga, I might do no this way, right, I might not know your way. I might not y'all do that.

00:42:30
Speaker 2: And that's what and and and really, man, when you look at it, man, the best song is the best collaboration, you feel me, So the best song is the best collaboration. The best song is like you bringing your way and me bringing my way, and we collabed and we made a new way. Like you know what I'm saying. That's the That's the best song, you feel me. That's the best album. That's the best anything. It's like the best. That's it. It's just the best collaboration.

00:42:52
Speaker 1: You think you in the competitive space or just a creative space.

00:42:56
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm competing with myself, you know what I'm saying. And I'm in the creative space. I'm compete with myself and I'm feeling like so I'm feeling so creative, like I ain't gonna lie. I really, I really got to a point where it's like, man, I'm competing against Like I was trying to find that feeling that like twenty ten, twenty eleven where I really wanted this shit and I really wanted to like damn, but I need a place more.

00:43:18
Speaker 1: Damn.

00:43:19
Speaker 2: I need to song on the radio, like, man.

00:43:21
Speaker 1: Look, you gotta chase a new chase. Yeah, you know what I'm saying, Like like, yeah, I did that already, you know what I'm saying.

00:43:27
Speaker 2: But now now it's like I got a record label, so like now it's like, let me do that in a new way. Let me put out my own music and the licenses, or let me do a whole now now with the production company how I set up. Now it's like, man, we could do a whole motherfucking album with somebody, Like it ain't nothing, It's just easy, you know what I'm saying. So let me get that same hunger that I had. But It's gonna be a new challenge because now I'm doing the album. It ain't about just a single no more you feel Me or either now like I just another thing that's dropping tonight. I got I got two songs on BTS, which is the biggest biggest k pop group in the world. You know what I'm saying. K pop is like it's a whole other genres Korean pops. Bt BTS is the biggest group from from Korea in the world. You know what I'm saying. They're dropping the night too. So they took five years or six years off because they had to go serve the army over there. They were already the biggest in the in the in the world, but in Koreas like they had to go serve their army. So well, first first first Korean artists I worked with was Jenny Jenny Ruby James. She was part of Black Pink. Well she still lives a part of Black Pink, and I had like eight or nine songs on her. She she's huge in the world. This was last year around this time, around March, and and that that ship made a lot of noise and then don't know about that, Oh yeah, sure, global that global money.

00:44:52
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

00:44:54
Speaker 2: That wasn't trying to sound media train, but I honestly don't be thinking about the nigga that sitting thinking like that.

00:45:00
Speaker 1: Bro, Probably I couldn't bro like a nigga could never be my problem.

00:45:05
Speaker 2: Bro.

00:45:05
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I'm trying to figure out how far we can push your sound from. Like you said, Okay, do you feel like if niggas ain't in that hot space, a nigga feel like you ain't hot, like because you ain't in the mixed hot space, the nigga be going somewhere in Korea getting a whole nother bad right.

00:45:21
Speaker 2: Oh, I said this nigga ignorant, the nigga stupid. He just don't know, you know what I'm saying, Whatever nigga is they're talking like that, it's like you don't know, but it's cool.

00:45:29
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I'm not doing the feeling, but make it still would make me feel away. I can't see how you would fish.

00:45:36
Speaker 2: You.

00:45:36
Speaker 1: I look like a lay down ass nigga. That's not to be one of Like I look like I would lay down in any situation. Well, a person that's thinking like that. Yes, he might look at it like that, you know what I'm saying.

00:45:48
Speaker 2: But then but then when he watched his big Facts interview, I mean, there's this prospective interview right here, or whoever it is him or her, you know what I'm saying. When they watch his perspective interview, they're like, God, damn, I ain't know he was doing with BTS, it with Ginny, or he was getting global. He was dropping global joints too, like I thought he just started dropping like you know what I'm saying. Or even when they when they watched like Versus, when we turned up at Versus, a lot of people might have known I did this so that so on this home, but I ain't no I did that, So you know.

00:46:17
Speaker 1: What I'm saying, they ain't seen that. Shn feel effect like that? Do you think that Versus puts you in the hot space?

00:46:22
Speaker 2: Though heah, yeah, highlighted ship. You know what I'm saying. It was it reminded and it highlighted because it's like certain people might have loved these fives home, but they might not even know. And I had nothing to do with formation humble, you know what I'm saying, DNA or or or whatever like you know what I'm saying. Whatever songs I played that man for for show, shout out to hip Boy, you know what I'm saying. He played them bangs that night too. And one thing I like about what Swizz and Timbo put together with that ship is like, you can't lose on versus you know what I'm saying. You can't even be a loser and be on versus. You know what I'm saying. You gotta be a winner to be on versus what I'm saying. So it ain't no certain thing as like losing a winning on that ship.

00:47:03
Speaker 1: So I feel like.

00:47:06
Speaker 2: A lot of people, a lot of people might have might have heard my tag in certain places, but they never heard all them songs played that once, you know what I'm saying. And I ain't never seen me perform or a lot of people hit me up after that ship was like, Bro, I ain't never seen you in that in that zone. It's like, bro, because most of the time when you see me, it's like at a setting. I'm not walking around doing that.

00:47:24
Speaker 1: I ain't.

00:47:25
Speaker 2: I ain't never I ain't doing too much performing. You feel me word, you know what I'm saying, but I want to start doing tour now because that was fun.

00:47:31
Speaker 1: That was fun.

00:47:32
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, You gotta come out there with me, Bro, real.

00:47:35
Speaker 1: Come on, you just turn me together. Want somebody, We're gonna put it together. He wants somebody, Let do it.

00:47:47
Speaker 2: I ain't gonna lie when I first met Gucci. The first day I met Gucci, That's what I told him. Bro, I ain't even had no people. I was like, he was like, it was crazy. I was like, Patroy. I used to get my CDs pressed up. Yeah, really regular, real talk and see a lot of times I saw a Gucci in the interview. He said, man, Mike just standing outside the studio, you know what I'm saying. And he just he's just standing outside there. And that was like his perspective, right, and it was dope to hear that perspective. But really, what I was doing, I was getting my CDs pressed up downstairs. So I might pay two hundred dollars for Mike will Beat CD because all my all my cause back then you couldn't like two thousand and six, two thousand and seven, like you couldn't email or bluetooth beat and ship. So yeah, you have to burn CD. So I'm like, I used to go to past work, pay my last. Boom, get these CDs, Get these beats hanging around.

00:48:37
Speaker 1: You could be right at the front He wait, no CD stalking Yeah, because you're saying something about them beats.

00:48:47
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, get them out, you know what I'm saying. And I just and I just drove all the way down here from card you know what I'm saying. So I'm driving all the way from Card. I got my last We ain't have uber and ship back then, you know what I'm saying. So Pops might drop me off, go handle whatever. He got a handle. I'm waiting on the CDs to get printed up. Booe, he suckle back, come pick me up. My boy Blaze was working at the front door, you know what I'm saying. And then so Boom, I would see Gucci. I ran into Gucci one day. I was getting my CD freshed up, and I gave him a Beat CD. He was freestyling to it in the lounge and I went in there and then he was like, man, I need the files of this beat Man. It'd be hard to tell. I'm like, all right, man, man, just hollert my people.

00:49:26
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

00:49:27
Speaker 2: He knew I ain't had no people. He was like, man, I'll fuck with you by your little player. You know what I'm saying, right up?

00:49:31
Speaker 1: Man?

00:49:32
Speaker 2: That start?

00:49:33
Speaker 1: Man, do you ever feel like niggas tryed to you like a country? Could you from cup?

00:49:37
Speaker 2: Uh?

00:49:38
Speaker 1: Ain't, I ain't. I ain't gonna lie.

00:49:39
Speaker 2: I ain't never ran into that, you know what I'm saying. For real, Like I said, I met I met shot at Low when I got damn sixteen the club Q. You know what I'm saying. Card, You know what I'm saying. And then like I met walking in the same club like a year or two later. You know what I'm saying. He were from the South Side, So that's how I really got, yeah, for real from And I was too young to getting the up back then, so that was teenage j But I you know, I coming up out here, you always hear like the jokes on cord like or either they be like, oh yeah, I ain't Atlanta or whatever. You know what I'm saying, So you hear that. But I always thought it was like I always thought it was either a because of how the police be tripping or either be because Marta, don't go out there. You know what I'm saying, I ain't. I ain't really understand it, cause it's like, man, Nigga, we all from Jordan. We are some country at Nigga for real, you know what I'm saying. It's just it's just different sizes of town, you know what I'm saying. But I done made history form zone one to six man' I ain't never had that. Oh by the Nigga A country at Nigga. God damn. We ain't fucking with him, you know what I'm saying. For real, we really laid the foundation. You know what I'm saying.

00:50:40
Speaker 1: How you thinking people feel about you that there in cod Man?

00:50:44
Speaker 2: They like, like I said, I'm doing it for the believers and not the haters. There might be something, might be some bombs out there that might be you know what I'm saying, that might be feeling like whatever however they feeling, you know what I'm saying. But then it's a whole lot of believers out there that's like by I knew he was gonna be it, but that niggas stayed down. Bro. I remember when he was in this group. I remember when they were performing over here. I remember when he brought goddamn Him and Walker used to be out here, and then Walker started rapping, and I remember when they brought Gucci out here. I remember he brought two chains out here for the first time. He brought He came out with Pluto for the first time and got damn like man. Then Nigga just stayed down and he grinded all the way up while salute might But you know what I'm saying, It's like, it's like like watching the fucking plant. It's like watching one of these trees just like growth on the ground and just end up being one of the biggest trees.

00:51:32
Speaker 1: It's like, you know what I'm saying.

00:51:33
Speaker 2: Some people might be like, man, Nigga, that fucking tree, man, fucking tree, he ain't got no fucking leaves or whatever.

00:51:39
Speaker 1: They might find something about the tree.

00:51:40
Speaker 2: You feel me, But most people are gonna be like bro, I remember when they won't even no tree right there, Like you know what I'm saying, This bigg as a motherfucker like so to be like one of the biggest in the entertainment industry from my side of town, man, that's like, you know what I'm saying, that's rare. You know what I'm saying. It's a lot of real niggas in card. You know what I'm saying, Salute to y'all and and all of it that might salute me. You know what I'm saying.

00:52:02
Speaker 1: You think you was squeezing the money a little too tight. You just had like I didn't spend some of this shit.

00:52:08
Speaker 2: Over the time, Like fuck yeah, well well not over this reset time, but fuck yeah, bro, it took me a long time to spend money. Bro, I ain't gonna lie because I had I had post partner. Nigga also broke. You know what I'm saying. Nigga think Nigga, think Ja? Could you come from car? You know what I'm saying, Like you're just born with a silver you know what I'm saying, Like like Nigga, think Jack.

00:52:30
Speaker 1: Can you come from car?

00:52:31
Speaker 2: You got a silver spoon in my I ain't come from those silver store like, you know what I'm saying. My pops from Jenkin Jones. I'm the only one from both sides of my family from from Georgia. So my pops from Jenkin Jones, West Virginia. It's probably like five thousand, a thousand people out there he come from, like it's fifteen of them. My grandma had fifteen kids, you know what I'm saying. And and and she was a single mother. You feel me raising all them?

00:52:55
Speaker 1: You feel me?

00:52:56
Speaker 2: Then my mom she from Cleveland, She from Cleveland, from Agewood, you know what I'm saying. And boom, like her and my dad marry each other. They had my sisters in Cleveland, and then they moved down here. My PAP's got a job. He moved down here, and my pops, my popsa on some ship. Like man, you know what, I'm gonna move my kids to this side of time because they said it's a mixed side of town. So I want my kids to grow up going to school with all kind of different with white kids we're aging or whatever, you know what I'm saying. So then they'll never feel like, oh I can't approach this person, or this person too good for me, or this person beneath me, or you know what I'm saying. It's just like he just wanted me to grow up with all of that. So that was all Pop's vision. You know what I'm saying. Here geans as well, you know what I'm saying, and so when he came with that, you know what I'm saying, Boom, I grew up out there and that might be the reason why I'm like, man, damn, I want to take my sound to a fucking career or I want to work with somebody like my desirous or I want to go do this that you know what I'm saying. It's like it might come from that. You feel me so so like yeah, man, you know what I'm saying, Like like that that was a I was adult thing that like even my pops and my mind, they held that ship down. It's like, you know what I'm saying. They were to both hardworking people, you know what I'm saying, and like middle class black people, and they divorced and started up and and I'm and I'm still trying to figure out now, like damn, how did how we how y'all made it this long? And how y'all and how we made it this far? Like you feel me because I'm the first person of my family like that that came into some money like that, you know what I'm saying, Like for real, yeah, came into some money, Like you know what I'm saying.

00:54:37
Speaker 1: I take it to another level for real.

00:54:40
Speaker 2: So like Pops, Pops planning that seed, haveing me boring out there, going to school and car and then now this ship and grew into a tree. Niggas shook up the whole city of Atlanta. Nigga, it's hard to make it out of this motherfucker right now. Yeah no, in fact, you and I sitting in there right now.

00:54:55
Speaker 1: Strategy.

00:54:57
Speaker 2: I ain't gonna lie. Man, My pops sold me all these buildings. He brought me over here. Yeah, he sold me all these belding He do real estate. So he was like, man, get that you know what I'm saying, and get this one to next door. It just came on the market. And this one just came on the market. To buy that one.

00:55:12
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. That is that ship like a boost of company because you, like you said, you want spending the money. Once you start spending money actually seeing the toys and seeing this ship and that ship, Like.

00:55:22
Speaker 2: I ain't a lie, I ain't a live seeing Dave on your hat, you know you and Dave put the better in my back. Two niggas, I won't even I won't even know plane chain, no diamonds or nothing, y'all were like, Man, y'all, but Mike, you gotta go plane chain diamonds, bro. You know what I'm saying, Like, man, straight up, bron y'all, y'all took me the different driller like I would have different jewelry and ship. But I was just like Mann, Bro, I don't know. Definitely do something. Definitely do something to your confidence. Man. When you when you start feeling these different engines and ship, you gotta beat right here.

00:55:53
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. It's a real real drive.

00:55:55
Speaker 2: You got a mother fucking port wheel drive. This the fastest thing on the street. Then you got an electric car, then you go old school. It's like feeling those different engines even even makes you got them respect the art a different way. The speakers sound different, you know what I'm saying. This song sounded different hearing this engine in the background and all that type of shit. Even having your own buildings and have your own studio, Man, you ain't gotta leave at a certain time. You ain't got an answer to nobody. You ain't gotta talk about what y'all.

00:56:20
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

00:56:21
Speaker 2: Man, Oh, did y'all smoking and y'all smoking weed in or whatever. You feel me like all of that ship bro, and and and those investments bring a feeling that you know what I'm saying, bring bring a different feeling, and that sparks the creativity, you know what I'm saying. And then when that sparks the creativity, you know what I'm saying, you end up making a whole You end up doing what I just did. You know what I'm saying, Like just doing the reset and just you know, going up. But ain now I have postpartum. Man. For for a long time, I was't buy a ship. I'm like, man, he we ain't going back.

00:56:53
Speaker 1: Man, you feel well, look at this ship. Man.

00:56:58
Speaker 2: But but hey, man out to like different mentors I got, you know what I'm saying, The city, my nigga, Tread like different people I've seen like buying different buildings and ship like change. You know what I'm saying. Like that, It's like, man, you know what I'm saying. Tread told me like, man, hey, and you're making all that money on music, bron Bro, you better go buy some dirt. Bro, Go spend the money on the dirt. Fuck suck the money being in the bank account. You gonna make way more money with buying that dirt, you know what I'm saying. And so him telling me that ship, I was like, I'm like, dance, how much you think I need to spend? He like all of it, Nigga. Go to your bank account right now. Go spend everything you got, nigga, and go buy all the thing you can find. You know, I ain't gonna do all that, but I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go spend some ship. You know, real talking, you know what I'm saying, And like just to see even him, Yeah, even him come from nothing and god damn build up and have all these different buildings in the city and ship like that. Like I'm I'm a type person that I'm always gonna listen to, you know what I'm saying. O. G is in the big homies, Like you know what I'm saying. Even my man lost a man lost told me, man, first thing, first, you gotta promise me, bro, no matter what. I don't care what kind of building, I mean, what kind of check they come with, do not sell these buildings, bro, Because the first thing us black people what we want to do is we want to get something flip it. You know what I'm saying, like, do not do it, bro, You gotta do it. You gotta keep this ship for the people. Bro. Like you know what I'm saying, You gotta build some legendary shit right here. You know what I'm saying, Plant way more seeds right here.

00:58:29
Speaker 1: You feel me? Now, you came up in the time of Atlanta when you really had to be outside the hell of your business. What you think that the difference between then and name then between then and now?

00:58:42
Speaker 2: Like, man, now, uh, certain people can be new to the scene and take a picture next to a motherfucker and a motherfucker come to my studio and take a picture next to me and be like, they can feel like they're just as successful or just as you know what I'm saying. They might have got the instant gratifications, might got a lot of likes, they might got a lot of comments or whatever, and they might think, Man, hey, I'm putting in the hard work. Man, what my motherfucking building that with my motherfucking Porsche or my you know what I'm saying, with my chain that you know what I'm saying. But man, you ain't even did nothing. You don't know how long it took me to even get a chain. You know what I'm saying, the grind like you feel me Like, it's like, sh it is so instant now ship should is just on social media and ship and there's a lot of fabrication going on that that that man, people will get they're getting lost out of reality. That'll be in the metaverse and world.

00:59:35
Speaker 1: Bro. You know what I'm saying, we ain't had a better version. You know what I'm saying, real talk.

00:59:40
Speaker 2: Bro, So like this ship like that. Man, I feel like, man, that's that's the major difference.

00:59:45
Speaker 1: Bro. Like It's like, man, what was it competition or collaboration? Might then?

00:59:54
Speaker 2: Back then it was a little bit of both, you know what I'm saying, Because it was collaboration cause ill building my production team. And then I have people like Gucci that believe in me. You know what I'm saying. I have people like two Change, I believe in me, people.

01:00:09
Speaker 1: Like planing all around aural like like niggasill see a nigga ground a nigga fuck with you? Back then?

01:00:15
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, for sure, it was overly collaborate, collaborative. You know what I'm saying. It's like, man, we'll go to the studio make a song, everybody making a song, and go to Magic on Monday.

01:00:24
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

01:00:25
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like we we literally going to the studio and the hardest song we made the night. But we're going to Magic. We're going to honest, We're going to Platinum. You know what I'm saying, We're going to Blue Flame. And it's like and it's like, hey man, the city fucking with this ship. Man, we need to go and put it out. Like that's how we knew and we need to put this ship out.

01:00:42
Speaker 1: When nigga start making the money and now that d take get involved that like fuck up relationships.

01:00:47
Speaker 2: Yeah, hell yeah and that and definitely when you have like hey, yeah, definitely when you have like different people, when the people that's around certain artists are around the creative, when they trying to be the glue, you what I'm saying, when they're not, when they're not trying to be like sometimes they be sometimes they be the gas on the fire. Sometimes they go to the creative and be like, man, I might doing this, you know what I'm saying, Or Hey, why this artist did that?

01:01:14
Speaker 1: How difficult you is making you difficult? Yeah? Or like they just yeah and they fucking up.

01:01:19
Speaker 2: They fucking up the vibe where it's like, now you're fucking up the collaboration, you know what I'm saying. That's why I like to deal my whole career. I like to deal straight with the artists, you know what I'm saying. When all that tape and all that kind of stuff, so I get involved, and it's like and to take the fun out of it, you know what I'm saying. I feel like that's not what got the city to where it's at right now. Now Atlanta is like global, man, we got a global sound. We we we are pop music, you know what I'm saying. Where we used to be like all that pop ship that nigga, We are pop you know what I'm saying. So it's like, at the end of the day, all that came I saw where that came from. That came from collaboration, That came from Shouted Low seeing me at sixteen years old, seventeen years old, give me his number, let me come to his studio. I used to go to Shota Lowe studio.

01:02:01
Speaker 1: One time.

01:02:02
Speaker 2: I seen shot of Low do a song. Everybody in the room wrote the verse. You know what I'm saying.

01:02:07
Speaker 1: Everybody right in his life. You know what I'm saying, This person might.

01:02:10
Speaker 2: Say this, this person might say that, this person might say this, This person might say that right in the line for line. But they rapping it all together in the room. You know what I'm saying, that he gonna lay it down. They go right across street the Pool Palace. Everybody in the studio don't know the know the words already.

01:02:24
Speaker 1: Collected, you know what I'm saying.

01:02:27
Speaker 2: Broken, Yeah, next thing you know, they go to Crucial. Everybody everybody at Pool Palace like, damn, what's song this is? Now they running the back. Now everybody at Pool Pallet know the song. Now they go to Crucier. Now, God damn people that Crucier know the song. Now they go to the city. But now I got down, they go too or anything like that on any other side of town. Now, I was like man brother man in West Side, shot Low came in, got them one hundred, two hundred deep. But everybody knew the goddamn song You feel Me, and ain't nobody heard it. So you feel lame not knowing this hard ass song that all these nigga know the song, all the nigga know words too, And now you're starting. Now you're looking for mixtapes and you're looking for how you're gonna find this song? Like, but this song with.

01:03:05
Speaker 1: Jamming you feel me? Yeah, went on the internet. You want to hear try it out.

01:03:10
Speaker 2: You're like, man, I was seeing y'all moving, You know what I'm saying, Like I'm seeing y'all moving, I'm seeing y'all libro or wherever.

01:03:17
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

01:03:18
Speaker 2: I was already hip, but I'm like, I ain't no bank there music too. You know what I'm saying. But you know what I'm saying that try it out. Once I figured out I got your number, Nigga, I'm blowing you up. Hey, brother, this is your song.

01:03:28
Speaker 1: Try it out.

01:03:28
Speaker 2: Bro Let get in the studio like man, Yeah, we're gonna get in there. We're gonna get in there. Man, Come on, brother, get in the studio. Brother, Like, man, Man, we gotta come with another single.

01:03:36
Speaker 1: Do you tell me? I'm like, hey, what you think the biggest misconception by Atlanta is just to the outside brouh.

01:03:52
Speaker 2: Uh.

01:03:54
Speaker 1: I don't know.

01:03:55
Speaker 2: That's a vague that's a vague question. You know what I'm saying. I guess they see so much. I guess the words don't see see so much success come from collaboration.

01:04:03
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying that they think everybody buddy buddy.

01:04:06
Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess they think like you know what I'm saying. It's just it's just simple, Like it's just easy. Like we all could just man, I could just get this one on that one on the phone. We could all just go right here and it's just gonna launch them, you know what I'm saying. But like I said, it be it be different people in the mixes. You know what I'm saying, fucking up the fucking up the algorithm. You know what I'm saying. You know what I'm saying, or or or or maybe not even understand.

01:04:31
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know.

01:04:32
Speaker 2: I don't know how the world look at Atlanta. I feel like the world loves Atlanta. Bro To be real with you, I don't know what the misconception could be. Misconception could be that were not lyrical, or that we not you know what I'm saying, what that were not forward pushing. I remember people used to find on People used to find on the fact that I had eight A weights on my beats and that my beats was knocking in and they were distorted and ship like that. But the reason why I was coming like that is because everybody at the studio that I'll pull up, they had to clean mix, you know what I'm saying. But the beats that when I came up, like working with Gucci and different stuff like that, all that ship was all My ship was sounding fucked up because it was plugged up the wrong way, you know what I'm saying. So once I started plugging my ship up the right way, Walker used to be like, man, you need to go back to that old sign, bro, that ship's just sound nigga dirty, like you know what I'm saying. I'm like, damn, I'm still trying to elevate, but I'm listening to the old show. I'm like, man, you're right, you know what I'm saying to the artists too. Yeah, I'm listening to Walking too.

01:05:30
Speaker 1: Yeah.

01:05:30
Speaker 2: My brother, we and Walking ain't even at this time we had and did the song, but it was like he was just telling me that. My brother, like, man, you gotta go back to that, okay, you would come come around. You did an Easterner and I was like, Damn, that's when my ship wanted plugged up. Right then it's like, you know what I'm saying, I'm taking When I expanded the company and I got my boy Pete Nass, my boy Mars, you know what I'm saying, Like they got clean ass mixes. Like my boy p is a master engineering, you know what I'm saying, so he cleaned up the whole, you know what I'm saying. Him and Mars started coming with they had the software, they had the fruity loop, so they were coming with a with a whole new sound, like you know what I'm saying. And then I would take their sound and put the dirty on that shit, you know what I'm saying, And then go to the studio and then everybody like, what the hell? Why do this shit sound like this? It's like it's dirty but it's clean. It's knocking but it's kind of destroyed, or it's too loud. But it's like in Atlanta, you gotta be original, you know what I'm saying. When all coming up, you had to be original. So that was that was my originality. All my recipe, you know what I'm saying. That every other producer had their own recipe, and shit, you know what I'm saying. And we used to put the shit under the filter and all that kind of stuff. So that was our originality. But it's like I feel like the rest of the world don't really know, Like man two eighty five, that circle around the city, that's really like a big ass pot, and it's like it's so much talent in that pot, but you gotta be original as a motherfucker to stand up and make it up out of that pot, like you know what I'm saying. And so I don't know if people understand the hard work and the grind and and everything and and you know, just anything ain't finna move the city. You gotta be the ship to move the city, you know what I'm saying. So, like I think a lot of people just think, like I don't know what they think, you know what I'm saying. But man, shit, I love this place. Man, you know what I'm saying.

01:07:17
Speaker 1: What's see Nowadys producers is just like artists too. They artists, they sells, right. Do you think they getting the way of the artists and I mean the rapper in the producer relationship, you think they're like causes like a riff because nigga like like me, but here, producer. You know what I'm saying, Yeah, I ain't never look at it like that, you know what I did look at it like that time. But you get like bru God Damn making the beat he put up looking like he's supposed to be rapping this ship too.

01:07:53
Speaker 2: Yeah, man, you know you know what's crazy? Like man, I'm I'm pretty sure like that type of shit is going through motherfucker's head. But shout out to Gucci man, Like man, my first time going to the studio with Gucci, I remember shot A Red was in there, all the producers that I looked up to was in there, and I was nervous to play beats and he made me put on my CD and all like man, hell now he was like, nigga, you was starting beats. You know.

01:08:19
Speaker 1: What I'm saying, You're gonna put that battery of your bad.

01:08:22
Speaker 2: So if if a person is looking at like, man, this nigga producing for me, it's pulling up looking fresh as me and looking fly as me. You know what I'm saying, And that's a bad thing. That's weird, Like he don't want nobody to shine. You know what I'm saying, that's weird ass ship. You should want everybody around you to be God damn, pulling up looking like I want everybody around me, pulling up looking like I want everybody in foreign cars. I want everybody. You know what I'm saying. What you spend your money on, what you spend your money on. But you know what I'm saying, I've been flying since my baby pictures man. Shout out the Pluto man with that bar. You know what I'm saying, I've been flying to my baby pictures man, Like my mom and my sister want to let me go out the house dirty and shit or my shirt wrinkleer all that kind of shit they used to make me iron my ship. You know what I'm saying, wash up. You know what I'm saying. Like some nigga won't even take a shower for a long time, you know what I'm saying. So like you know what I'm saying, My folk made me wash up, Like you know what I'm saying, Like put on some clean clothes. God damn, you know what I'm saying, and then I just naturally start growing older. I just you know what I'm saying, Just paying attention to the culture and just everything going on. It's like, man, it's hip hop. Bro, it's all about the new, the new, like the new shoes, the new clothes, the new card, a new wash, new da da dah.

01:09:35
Speaker 1: So we all a fan of the same shit.

01:09:37
Speaker 2: So I don't know anybody who just sitting around just sizing somebody up about what they bought, knew what they were afford, what they were able to afford.

01:09:47
Speaker 1: And the time every time you had just never say what the fuck? I'll be trying to get you to say. But it's cooln he said, talk about that, Bro. I'm saying, like you have you seen niggas like, oh, he's slick holding it?

01:10:05
Speaker 2: Uh?

01:10:05
Speaker 1: He feels like, aren't supposed to be able to be me? You know it be people like that like see you come from something and be like, Bro, you ain't even supposed to be able to be you ain't maw ship, but it happens.

01:10:17
Speaker 2: That's weird too, though, Bro.

01:10:18
Speaker 1: It is weird, but it happens though, Like you're trying to like you just you just slow the nigga. You will see you No, no, you see this, but I ain't know you were asking me to confirm this.

01:10:29
Speaker 2: I thought already, it's already that's already understood.

01:10:33
Speaker 1: But I don't Yeah, that's already understood. It's understood.

01:10:35
Speaker 2: Ain't gotta be talked about. I just float over it because I don't even I don't acknowledge that ship, so I don't I don't see motherfuckers looking at me like that. You you know what I'm saying, That ship like bro, like them, same type of people like that. Nobody has ever came to me and said, Mike, Man, why you got on this and why you got on that? Or why you know what I'm saying or like that. You know what I'm saying. Certain people might be like, oh man, he doing too much as far as like you know what I'm saying, or he trying to put his task on there he trying to God.

01:11:01
Speaker 1: Damn, you know what I'm saying, Go go promote this record, and but it's like I gotta do this. How you feel when the nigga don't want you to put your tag on your beat? Like, take the tag? How that make you feel? Just take the beat, take the beat off. You know what I'm saying, Put the lyrics you feel me put the lyrics out. Bro.

01:11:20
Speaker 2: At the end of the day, Man, I just seen people move the instrumentals. I ain't really just seeing people move to a cappellas unless they know the song. You feel me and and and and there was a beat that called him first, you know what I'm saying. But so it's like, that's what I'm saying, Like these songs are about the best collaborations, like them, type of niggas that you're talking about, Bro, We all know them, type of niggas. Them, type of niggas.

01:11:42
Speaker 1: Bro. I literally do not see I literally float over. I can see. Yeah, I need to get my vision, chick. I don't see too good.

01:11:51
Speaker 2: No, I can see them. I can see them, but I don't.

01:11:54
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't see them. You know what I'm saying. Trying to get you never say never hell never will. Yeah you DoD bro, you're at peace. So you feel like you're at peace.

01:12:05
Speaker 2: Man as far as with a nigga, Hey, yeah, you.

01:12:09
Speaker 1: Know what I'm saying, Bush, just like a peace in your life.

01:12:12
Speaker 2: Like, no, it's always turbulent, you know what I'm saying. It's always ups and downs in life. You know what I'm saying. I just feel like a nigga could never be my problem. How a nigga feel about me or you know what I'm saying, or whatever, how a nigga view me or whatever. You know what I'm saying. You're trying to give me the dim my light because I'm shying. I can't help that ship. Bro, I'm shine in the dark. You know what I'm saying, breaking, but you ain't broken all these years? Fuck with niggas gonna think niggas now fuck me. I'd be like, Bro, I won't punch in the ship. You be like, bro, fuck because you gotta think I'm saying, niggas going home punching the air that you the ship.

01:12:45
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, They punching the wall and everything. Many mean girl puts that break your jack.

01:12:54
Speaker 2: That's the type of ship that just trickers off the street.

01:12:56
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

01:12:57
Speaker 2: And position Yeah, and it's like man, man a nigga, Man, Bro, I know better, Bro, I know that shit. I know like anybody who looked like me. Bro, do you not my enemy? Bro? Whatever you're thinking in your mind, I thought like that before. You know what I'm saying. I used to be like that all that type shit. Bro, I thought like that I had that training thought at one point.

01:13:16
Speaker 1: Now that got here.

01:13:18
Speaker 2: I'm not trying. I'm not your problem. You got something going going on within, brother, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, So if I'm sitting here like, man, look at this nigga, now, I'm doing the same thing.

01:13:28
Speaker 1: He doing to me. I don't see him doing that.

01:13:31
Speaker 2: He going through some personal shit. I gotta go over here to my studio and work on this. I gotta go play golf with bank. I gotta go take care of mind dukes. Them same type niggas that look at it like that, ain't even about their mama Bracelet you know what I'm saying. You know what I'm saying, Or ain't about their mama house, or ain't about they folks? Nothing like you feel me like, I don't know you got twenty four hours in the day.

01:13:56
Speaker 1: Dig So do you think it's some gates? Yeah, you just said this nigga. Here they all pulling that ship.

01:14:04
Speaker 3: But the niggas see everything, you know, boy, they niggas see everything I can see, because I mean, I'll be asking used to ship sometimes like you see something, You'll be like, no, try to see how I feel first about No, what happened.

01:14:14
Speaker 1: Then I started telling what happened to be like, yeah that she was fraid I did see something like that.

01:14:18
Speaker 3: Bro, you's some bullship Like I know you Bro, that nigga tell the whole story and to be like oh word, oh that that one thing.

01:14:27
Speaker 1: Bro. You know you saw the own ship like the bubble. Bro. What I'm saying, I'll be seeing the ship, bro. But it's all about what you spend your time on. Brother. Talk like man, yeah, peace for real ship and let's jump into the reset before we get out of here.

01:14:57
Speaker 2: By drop We're dropping. We have a tournament, yeah, man, tournament on Monday, man. You know what I'm saying, second annual Man Made It Day classic. Man. We did a bid last year. You know what I'm saying, banking them took on the trophy.

01:15:13
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

01:15:14
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're doing that again this year. You know what I'm saying. I always jump around and play you know what I'm saying, different groups, But man, we run out of private course in Atlanta, you know what I'm saying. We take donations and all that kind of stuff, and we use that with my with my non profit organization Making Wishes Matter or back into the community and just you know what I'm saying, keep pushing it forward, you know what I'm saying. But I feel like, man, that's the best way.

01:15:36
Speaker 1: To bring It's a couple of mons. It's a couple of months with man.

01:15:40
Speaker 2: This year we're a country Club of the South. You know what I'm saying. Country Club of the South. Man, it's private. So you got an R s v P. You know what I'm saying. And man, I feel like, man, it's so lick because the music be out there, like the club, weather be cool, big cigars, everybody right there, just everybody. Ain't nobody looking at And why he got on this when he got on that.

01:16:04
Speaker 1: It's a different environment, you feel me.

01:16:06
Speaker 2: That's why I don't.

01:16:08
Speaker 1: But you still be seeing you got you gotta think. We hated to let you say. I know you do because you're a cant tell me, but don't say it like, oh yeah, I kind of saw like you said, I was strolling. I seen the Hitler, but you saw the whole thing just strolling Bard Bro.

01:16:25
Speaker 2: You gotta think, Man, we be in the wood a portion of our day, a fourth all day or third all day. We'll be in the woods either we're hiking or playing golf, you know what I'm saying, So we can catch up in the car while were riding to the studio. But then when we go to the studio and we're locked in on this, I'm going home. I'm doing what I do at home.

01:16:43
Speaker 1: Believe me. You know what I'm saying. You know I'll be seeing these ship. Matter fact, I showed you. You still you telling another mother fucker? Like for real? Reset, Reset, Like, hey, what else this man? Reset?

01:17:05
Speaker 3: Man?

01:17:06
Speaker 2: It's trying to brand commercial, commercial, commercial coming out.

01:17:13
Speaker 1: Man, you know what I'm saying.

01:17:14
Speaker 2: And about a week or two with Cash shop Man, shout out the bank put up on me. Man, we got to made it pro golf brand. You know what I'm saying. First commercial with Cash shop Man, that ship launching at the golf tournament. You know what I'm saying, that's you. That's dope as a motherfucker, man, Like that's it was hard. And I scored the whole ship. You know what I'm saying. They got some of the tracks from Reset on that motherfucker. And man, man, it's our man, it's just all new, all new collaborations, all new energy. You know what I'm saying like ship, man, this ship. I get what you're trying to do. You're trying to get me the God damn say some clickbait as man for real academic.

01:17:54
Speaker 1: I'm trying to but you ain't gonna do it. You don't even do it in real life. Yeah, I don't do that. I be knowing you be knowing that. Man.

01:17:59
Speaker 2: It's like it's like, man, everything come across the table, you hear everything.

01:18:03
Speaker 1: You've never done that. Somebody gonna break you. I rather be me if you're gonna around. I feel I'm coming back. When I felt like that I'm coming back whatever, yeah real when I started seeing this, Yeah, but I'm starting acknowledging that I'm gonna come back here in for real.

01:18:28
Speaker 2: But nah, man, the album Man was just it's just like different people that you wouldn't even expect, Like T's on Ludacris, Like nobody expect that collaboration, you know what I'm saying, Like uh, Chief keeping young Boy, nobody expected that collaboration. Like dree Killer Mike, nobody's seen that collaboration yet, you know what I'm saying, Like J Money, Caribou and Anicia. I've never worked with any of them. You know what I'm saying. I never worked with Killer Mike before. I never worked with you know what I'm saying. I see it sharm like you know what I'm saying. Yeah, And when they hear the whole album, they're like, damn, my favorite album is who Sid Sharr Damn he hard like you know what I'm saying, Who is that? Like? He already famous in India. He the man over there, you know what I'm saying, and in the Indian culture, but it's like, man, we he's an artist that man y'a. I love working with Sid because he's an artist that, like I can go in there, I can challenge him. I can play him every beat that he's never got on in his life. He's gonna say, pull it up, going to booth and his voice is just gonna kill it. I could play him a beat that sounded like, Yo, man, this is a beat I made for like on some jay Z Kanye Ruts your Throne type shit. He gonna get on there and make it his ship, you know what I'm saying. Make it a whole new sound, same thing I can make it. I can play him some shit that sounded like twenty one savage type beat man. He gonna get on there and make it his own sound. So it's like shout out to sid Man. We did a whole album that's that's also coming next with Sway Lee coming next, and then see it coming after Sway. But yeah, man, I ain't see Little Green. I always want to work with Selo. Man. That's when the goats out the city so fat. Yeah, you know what I'm saying, Like being able to do something with him. And then we did like a like a inspirational, like slick gospel type record. You know what I'm saying that Man, that shit just beautiful at the end, you know what I'm saying. And that's to me, it sounds like you just feel like the city just sounds like the city too.

01:20:19
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. It sounds like you're going in the gospel category and winning some ship, winning the bro.

01:20:23
Speaker 2: I like when you say that, Brose, you know when I want my first Grammy, I told you I ain't think I was gonna win. You called me and said, bro, You're gonna win the Grammy tonight, and I told you.

01:20:32
Speaker 1: Like, Manie know, hey, hey, this nigga bank different. Bro ain't no lie Man. I always remember.

01:20:39
Speaker 2: Bank with the gold teeth big sitting around the city, and I remember goddamn duct tape and everything, but I ain't know who did what and what.

01:20:46
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

01:20:47
Speaker 2: But Man, the more I got to know Bank, I'm like, Man, this niggas a fucking genius, man, This niggas a marketing jeans. The niggas a fucking a genie. You know what I'm saying, Niggau Unicorn and all that shit. Real talk, brou real.

01:21:01
Speaker 1: Talk, though. You know what I'm saying. Now, you're trying to go up though.

01:21:04
Speaker 2: Mike definitely trying to go up, man, reset.

01:21:07
Speaker 1: Man, gratulations on them.

01:21:08
Speaker 2: Man, appreciate that, bro, Man, Congratulations perspectives, bro Bit fast ship, show everything you do, Nigga, that's the tight ship. I see, you know what I'm saying. I see my niggas going up, bro, and I see everybody who really believe. Like I told you, like this go around right here is for the believers and not the haters. Br So many people that believe in me, Bro, And there's so many people that, you know what I'm saying, Even when even when I want to drop a music like a nigga like Dave, he ain't even in the music business. You know what I'm saying, resting piece of duct Tate, Dave, he not even in the music business.

01:21:37
Speaker 1: Man.

01:21:37
Speaker 2: This man pulled up on me religiously and told me, every day, Mike, drop this ship the biggest You do this ship for six hours straight every day. We're smoking, man, we're smoking, got down ten blunts every night. Man, you know what I'm saying. I missed my nigga, Dave, you know what I'm saying. And a nigga like nigg like Bank on my phone like man like you, man, you motherfucking bullshit. Man the fuck man, you're acting like you ain't the biggest motherfucker producing the motherfucking world.

01:22:03
Speaker 1: Niggas like you. You know what I'm saying.

01:22:06
Speaker 2: So yeah, you're charging the nigga up. So like now that the nigga popping back out now nigga click back in, like and realizing who I am and like, you know what I'm saying, understanding myself and everything like that, and understanding y'all perspective and everything like that. It's like, man, it's tiking to go up.

01:22:23
Speaker 1: I do it. I do it for you. I do it for us.

01:22:25
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, Hey, yeah, I do it for us. So then like, well, you know what I'm saying, when anything dropped, when this album dropped the night, they're gonna be like, bro, this ship no skips. You know what I'm saying, When motherfucker, when motherfucker hear the album and be like, no skip. First thing they're gonna do. Car Bank, you might might Nigga drop the album, but skips. Man, You've been saying that Nigga might were hard. But I ain't gonna lie. I ain't know you down you feel me?

01:22:49
Speaker 1: And is it ain't familiar right now? I like that ship is just some dope ship. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. You know saying real shit, Nigga be back town. You put this shit out though real switched it up a lot, switched up a lot of shit, a lot. You know what I'm saying.

01:23:07
Speaker 2: Because in twenty twenty one and twenty twenty one, twenty twenty two, I was working on a project called atl I Appreciate the Love, you know what I'm saying, And then and then I transitioned to doing a project called R and B Brish Nigga base, and they were like like more melodic rap type shit, you know what I'm saying. Then it was like somebody was like, man, you need to do Ransom three, and I was like, man, I don't want to do another sequel. And then me and Andre three thousand I had a conversation about man, albums being like sequels and all that different type shit, you know what I'm saying, And he felt the same way. He was just like, man, yo, I ain't gonna lie. Man, when when albums come out of sequels or when artists do sequels and shit just seemed like they're trying to be as big as a movie, So you know what I'm saying. Like when I heard them say that, like man, that shit clicked. And I was working with my boy Derek, you know what I'm saying on some videos and even him, you know what I'm saying. I was just talking to him about the whole ship. He was like, man, sounds like you went through like a reset. Like man, you know what, I've been trying to find a way to do Ransom three. You know what I'm saying, So man, you know what reset, I'm gonna spell it R three s CT you know what I'm saying, because people still don't even know that Ransom I mean, yeah, Ransom stuff for releasing all new songs orchestrated by Mike. Will you know what I'm saying. So I'm like, Man, we gotta go Ransom three or reset, you know what I'm saying. And it's like, man, and it ain't gonna be like we're starting over. It just we resetting back up, like you know what I'm saying. So like, man, like I ain't gonna lie. Man, this motherfucking album I'm proud of. I feel like this is the hardest shit I ever did. I feel like all the music I dropped, and Man, that motherfucker going in Atlanta right now, that ship going while I went in the cloud out of the night. Man DJ ran that ship back about three four time. He didn't even know I was in there. I was in the cut and I had to go up there to the DJ before them. Man, But shout out to all the DJs in Atlanta. Man, that's supporting. They were supporting their rooms and they supporting their standing ovation. You know what I'm saying. Shout out to all the DJs in Atlanta. Man, that's where the ship starts every time, and the ship spreading well. Shout out to DJs everywhere that's playing that ship for show. You know what I'm saying. I just always like to say that because that's what we're planning to seed.

01:25:11
Speaker 1: Man.

01:25:11
Speaker 2: I feel like Atlanta is is a is a fucking man. It's the soil, man, you know what I'm saying.

01:25:17
Speaker 1: It's the soil.

01:25:18
Speaker 2: Bro.

01:25:19
Speaker 1: We're locked in, Man, you got anything else you want to talk to tell the people who get out there?

01:25:23
Speaker 2: Ah, man, ship, Man, stay tuned. Man me and bank, me and bank me and bank from the keep going up. Man, Yeah, lock in and ship. Don't tell nobody what you can and can't do. And man, float a body, nigga, be at peace, man.

01:25:36
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Quit looking at these niggas, Man, paying attention to these niggas. Bro, be at peace. Bro. You know what I'm saying.

01:25:42
Speaker 2: Anytime you feel any of that type of energy, man, just look out of the way and scroll past the ship and them be.

01:25:47
Speaker 1: Like huh real yeah, oh no. You know what I'm saying. My granddad always told me brou He.

01:25:53
Speaker 2: Like many some people just want to argue as soon as you see a person want to argue. As soon as you see a person, God damn, you'll be like, man, oh man, my bad man. Are you right to walk on the way? Man, You're gonna waste too much time fumbling through all that, you know what I'm saying, So shit, ye yeah, man, pay attention to the bigger picture. Man, see that ship through. Man, that shit gonna come to life, you know what I'm saying. I'm gonna just continue to be a living, living testament.

01:26:16
Speaker 1: Of that shit. Y'all. Go get the abb the night reset. We'll see y'all at the tournament. Yeah, a tournament on Monday. Get that golf give Yeah, that's all. Tour this year. We're going on tour this year for the first time. Make se y'all likes to strive. Coming to the Big Fat Network.

01:26:32
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01:26:36
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