Club 520 - Spencer Dinwiddie & Jeff Teague on Luka Doncic-Anthony Davis trade, playing with LeBron

The volume. 0:00:05.640 --> 0:00:07.680 All right, man, we're back at the episode of Club 0:00:07.720 --> 0:00:08.639 five to twenty Podcasts. 0:00:08.640 --> 0:00:09.039 I'm the host. 0:00:09.080 --> 0:00:11.600 My name is DJ Well Special special guests in the building. 0:00:11.720 --> 0:00:13.680 To my left, we're gonna introduce my man's last is 0:00:13.680 --> 0:00:16.000 my far left. We got my dog Bishop be hearing 0:00:16.000 --> 0:00:17.520 out the prail LEAs how you were nasty? 0:00:17.520 --> 0:00:20.040 What's somebody boy? Let's get to it man. 0:00:20.720 --> 0:00:23.000 That smiss listen. I know you've been in league saying 0:00:23.000 --> 0:00:24.720 shoes your whole life. Have you ever seen the black 0:00:24.720 --> 0:00:25.840 Forces with the white license? 0:00:26.239 --> 0:00:29.640 Nah? No, not promoted on the front of the podcast 0:00:29.680 --> 0:00:29.960 like that. 0:00:30.920 --> 0:00:32.920 Now, Yeah, it's the front line soldier ship. 0:00:33.040 --> 0:00:33.159 Bro. 0:00:34.080 --> 0:00:35.159 What you about thirteen? 0:00:35.640 --> 0:00:39.400 Yeah? Yeah, well I got you, bro. I know you 0:00:39.479 --> 0:00:39.919 from LA. 0:00:40.040 --> 0:00:41.560 You ain't signed the Vans, are you? 0:00:41.640 --> 0:00:41.680 No? 0:00:42.320 --> 0:00:43.640 Y sixty one? 0:00:44.280 --> 0:00:47.360 Okay, yeah, I signed niggas to seven twenty deals over here. 0:00:50.320 --> 0:00:55.200 But you got Mike on the seven seven whatever, He'll 0:00:55.240 --> 0:00:56.040 give me the first six. 0:00:56.520 --> 0:01:02.720 Get you there show. To my right, my dog young 0:01:02.800 --> 0:01:05.280 notcho Young team. Got you what I'm chilling? Bro? What's 0:01:05.319 --> 0:01:05.960 cool and nasty? 0:01:06.040 --> 0:01:15.560 Let's get to it. That's my artist in production LLC 0:01:15.680 --> 0:01:17.600 for Shure. You got the feats on today, man, I'm Gon. 0:01:17.600 --> 0:01:19.240 Shout out to all Mama near Man, one of my 0:01:19.280 --> 0:01:22.120 favorite shoot stores. Man the brand. I love them. They 0:01:22.120 --> 0:01:24.640 always show love to me. So happy to be able 0:01:24.640 --> 0:01:26.880 to get a package from him. Always gonna support for 0:01:26.880 --> 0:01:29.399 sure for show Man got the early drop. Freaky Mike 0:01:29.440 --> 0:01:31.039 said they need to tap in. He needs his size 0:01:31.040 --> 0:01:32.679 twelves as well. We're gonna get you worked out for 0:01:32.720 --> 0:01:36.000 that man. Yeah, for sure, Man, but last certain at 0:01:36.040 --> 0:01:38.160 least Man to my left Man eleven year vet Man 0:01:38.360 --> 0:01:42.080 LA's finest, one of the biggest plays, a big contract history. 0:01:42.080 --> 0:01:42.960 Were gonna talk about it. Man. 0:01:42.959 --> 0:01:45.160 We got Specter Dean with you, big dog. Appreciate you 0:01:45.160 --> 0:01:46.040 pulling up Man. 0:01:46.160 --> 0:01:46.800 Thank you for having me. 0:01:48.000 --> 0:01:53.240 Yes, sure, Man, we do our research. Ship Man a 0:01:53.280 --> 0:01:55.680 little bit Man for shure l A's finest Man. First 0:01:55.800 --> 0:01:56.520 it's martsh Madness. 0:01:56.520 --> 0:01:57.600 Man. You know Colorado. 0:01:57.600 --> 0:02:00.000 How's it feel being alumni in Colorado and y'all turned 0:02:00.080 --> 0:02:01.000 up for football like that? 0:02:01.160 --> 0:02:04.600 Man? Oh no, that it was hard. Yeah, it brought 0:02:04.640 --> 0:02:05.320 life to the city. 0:02:05.400 --> 0:02:07.280 We didn't expect it because when I was there they 0:02:07.280 --> 0:02:13.120 won like two games in a year like awful damn. 0:02:11.840 --> 0:02:13.280 For a long time. What year you come out of 0:02:13.280 --> 0:02:14.920 there or go Thered you go. 0:02:15.520 --> 0:02:18.200 Went there in twenty eleven. Okay, left for fourteen, so 0:02:18.680 --> 0:02:22.079 oh yeah they was cool. Yeah they was they won 0:02:22.160 --> 0:02:25.640 two games. Hell right before then I got the. 0:02:25.720 --> 0:02:26.760 Lin was a little bit dirty. 0:02:27.000 --> 0:02:29.040 So but I couldn't imagine you was killing on campus 0:02:29.080 --> 0:02:30.880 and that was come the same time. That's the hell 0:02:30.880 --> 0:02:32.359 of the type of recruitment to pull up there. 0:02:32.680 --> 0:02:35.480 No, we was, uh we were the team like on 0:02:35.520 --> 0:02:36.240 campus and stuff. 0:02:36.240 --> 0:02:40.000 So like when I was there, it was basketball schools crazy? 0:02:40.080 --> 0:02:41.520 What made you choose Colorado? 0:02:42.840 --> 0:02:44.480 I mean basically like I want to go to Pac 0:02:44.520 --> 0:02:46.560 twelve because I really want to go to USC, but 0:02:46.560 --> 0:02:48.400 they ain't offered me, so U c. 0:02:48.520 --> 0:02:50.120 L A was kind of like I would just take you. 0:02:50.800 --> 0:02:53.200 And uh yeah, I didn't want to go to Harvard 0:02:53.400 --> 0:02:54.240 because of basketball. 0:02:54.280 --> 0:02:58.920 So okay, what happened? Who else was recruiting you from LA? Right? 0:02:59.000 --> 0:03:01.720 You're like we talk about high school, I like historic 0:03:01.840 --> 0:03:04.040 high school place the killers in high school? 0:03:04.120 --> 0:03:06.519 Yeah, of course, I mean Larry Drew went to my 0:03:06.600 --> 0:03:09.760 high school, McDonald's Americans, Larry Drew. I mean obviously you 0:03:09.760 --> 0:03:17.720 played all the guys Drew, Tomorrow, BJ, Brandon, Jenny's Sorry's Brandon. 0:03:18.360 --> 0:03:21.280 How would be j But you take a high school 0:03:21.280 --> 0:03:22.560 b J high school. 0:03:22.720 --> 0:03:29.840 J was nice, nice, okay, yeah, respect. I don't know, Hey, 0:03:30.040 --> 0:03:32.160 I think you tell you what the killer that. 0:03:32.160 --> 0:03:35.119 I know I was talking about earlier to them. 0:03:35.200 --> 0:03:41.640 I don't believe DeAndre Daniels. Oh yeah, yeah I was. 0:03:41.720 --> 0:03:44.040 I couldn't remember his name, but I'm like, I remember. 0:03:43.760 --> 0:03:46.160 He was Brice Jones went to the Pelicans. 0:03:46.240 --> 0:03:50.280 Yeah, bro in high school, like he went crazy in 0:03:50.440 --> 0:03:52.360 au Bro. I think he was like a top ten 0:03:52.360 --> 0:03:53.680 player in the country something like that. 0:03:54.000 --> 0:03:55.760 Yeah, I know what that is. On our team, the 0:03:55.760 --> 0:03:57.160 three of us, he was the best one, no. 0:03:57.360 --> 0:03:59.720 For sure, because he was like what six five he 0:03:59.800 --> 0:04:03.720 was bigger than that, like six nine. Yeah, I remember 0:04:03.760 --> 0:04:05.680 that he was cold. 0:04:06.720 --> 0:04:09.720 Yeah, especially in high school. He playing a big three 0:04:09.800 --> 0:04:13.720 last year. I don't know. Maybe I'm maybe I'm bro 0:04:14.040 --> 0:04:18.240 Beindre Dan. It's like a Christian Wood kind of you know. 0:04:18.720 --> 0:04:21.040 I got I got looking at would man. 0:04:21.080 --> 0:04:23.240 I just remember he used to go on the au circuit. 0:04:23.279 --> 0:04:25.680 He was he made a name for himself. I'm gonna 0:04:25.680 --> 0:04:26.560 look for show for sure. 0:04:26.880 --> 0:04:27.280 For sure. 0:04:27.360 --> 0:04:29.080 Man, having that much out of high school, it's crazy. 0:04:29.120 --> 0:04:31.240 So yeah, y'all was definitely getting the looks. But he 0:04:31.320 --> 0:04:32.800 said you wanted to stay in the Pac twelve. 0:04:33.080 --> 0:04:35.400 Oh yeah, not like so, I had like most of 0:04:35.440 --> 0:04:38.400 the Pack twelve offers, most of the California school offers, 0:04:38.520 --> 0:04:40.159 but I really want to go to USC. That's like 0:04:40.160 --> 0:04:42.320 when my mom my brother went and all that, and 0:04:42.600 --> 0:04:43.719 they only wanted to offer me. 0:04:44.320 --> 0:04:44.960 It's crazy. 0:04:45.240 --> 0:04:46.680 It is crazy how it works. Because they were asked 0:04:46.720 --> 0:04:50.280 to good that was a good one. I get off 0:04:50.279 --> 0:04:52.080 from the good school and not off from the basketball. 0:04:52.120 --> 0:04:54.600 That don't make no sense. Oh, they probably just taking 0:04:54.680 --> 0:05:00.159 it because what year was tomorrow? It was gone, you 0:05:00.200 --> 0:05:01.200 know what I'm saying, It is gone. 0:05:01.240 --> 0:05:04.400 But I'm just thinking like the guys that came after that, 0:05:04.440 --> 0:05:06.520 and I can't think of nobody. 0:05:06.960 --> 0:05:12.400 Yeah, yeah, that's tough. Yeah, because was going. Yeah, that's tough. 0:05:12.480 --> 0:05:12.920 That's tough. 0:05:12.920 --> 0:05:14.760 I mean, who else was cold at that time? 0:05:14.839 --> 0:05:15.080 Though? 0:05:15.200 --> 0:05:18.560 In high school too? Was anybody else getting recruited. 0:05:18.160 --> 0:05:22.279 Over Marcus is cold? Shout to move your Marcus class 0:05:22.839 --> 0:05:25.880 level like one fiftieth in their class. 0:05:26.240 --> 0:05:30.360 So yeah, and Davis gil Chris Marcus, Austin Rivers. 0:05:30.920 --> 0:05:32.880 That's the hell. That's one of the best. Under saying 0:05:32.920 --> 0:05:35.600 who who else is out west? That was all that's 0:05:35.640 --> 0:05:36.320 on our side. 0:05:37.000 --> 0:05:41.680 Sorry, Carson was out West. He went state right, Yeah, Arizona, 0:05:42.320 --> 0:05:43.440 Jabari Brown, Oregon? 0:05:43.680 --> 0:05:47.080 Okay, uh why didn't you go to Oregon? 0:05:47.920 --> 0:05:54.599 They what you basically? Organ? Yeah, dude, it's nice play 0:05:54.640 --> 0:05:55.320 for Oaken Soldiers. 0:05:55.320 --> 0:05:58.839 I know you're talking about. I had Brad Bill in 0:05:58.839 --> 0:06:01.680 that class. I go to autumn A games. Who'd you 0:06:01.720 --> 0:06:02.279 play you for? 0:06:02.640 --> 0:06:03.920 Pumping run pumping roun? 0:06:04.120 --> 0:06:09.400 Yeah, program when they had Lopez twins. 0:06:09.839 --> 0:06:11.920 Yeah, who is the school? Yeah? 0:06:12.560 --> 0:06:12.720 Two? 0:06:13.680 --> 0:06:18.440 Damn for the tickets or whatever, like oh wow, damn 0:06:18.960 --> 0:06:19.520 eight years ago. 0:06:19.640 --> 0:06:25.960 Some of that say, thirty game still chilling. The game 0:06:26.080 --> 0:06:29.080 is the game. It's a wicked game. Got it? 0:06:29.279 --> 0:06:32.159 Since we talk about college, you know, coming out of 0:06:32.279 --> 0:06:34.719 l a kid, what you think your n I L 0:06:34.760 --> 0:06:36.760 would have been going to next school? 0:06:37.000 --> 0:06:38.760 What do you think you would have got? 0:06:39.279 --> 0:06:42.480 Uh my, I don't think my n I L would 0:06:42.480 --> 0:06:46.920 have been crazy going to Colorado sophomore in Colorada though, Yeah, 0:06:47.520 --> 0:06:48.400 it would have been stupid. 0:06:48.640 --> 0:06:49.880 Do you think the freshman year? 0:06:49.960 --> 0:06:51.880 Do you think you would have transferred after your freshman 0:06:51.920 --> 0:06:53.479 year because you had a good freshman year? 0:06:53.760 --> 0:06:55.920 Yeah, it depends on the bag that nigga would have 0:06:55.920 --> 0:07:01.480 went to USC Like, so I was like runner up 0:07:01.480 --> 0:07:06.160 to Tony Rowden coach. Yeah, he had much better so 0:07:06.240 --> 0:07:09.000 he deserved it. But uh yeah, I mean they were 0:07:09.040 --> 0:07:11.360 selling my jersey. They were selling like mustache gigs. I 0:07:11.520 --> 0:07:13.040 had to go to you at the time, that little 0:07:13.080 --> 0:07:15.160 kid and they said the mustache you're in the student 0:07:15.160 --> 0:07:17.480 store all types shit, So like, oh, yeah, you know, 0:07:17.520 --> 0:07:18.080 it would have been. 0:07:17.960 --> 0:07:23.000 Stupid, dumb seeing the kid with aj Debnta getting seven 0:07:23.000 --> 0:07:24.080 million dollars. 0:07:24.000 --> 0:07:24.600 That's crazy. 0:07:24.880 --> 0:07:28.520 How would that affect you? Like, you know, because you 0:07:28.520 --> 0:07:31.240 you you different than most of us, but you you 0:07:31.480 --> 0:07:35.440 tapped in cryptocarents all that. I'm just gonna get to that. 0:07:35.480 --> 0:07:38.040 But how would that affect you as a you know, 0:07:38.040 --> 0:07:39.920 a student athlete. If they would have liked to offer 0:07:40.000 --> 0:07:42.680 you seven million dollars, would that affect your mind going 0:07:42.720 --> 0:07:45.040 to the league or you'd have been like, shiit seven million, 0:07:45.600 --> 0:07:49.040 I'm cool. I think because I wanted to go to 0:07:49.040 --> 0:07:51.600 the league, yeah, I'd have been still driven. I think 0:07:51.680 --> 0:07:55.080 like that might have changed how I approached like post 0:07:55.120 --> 0:07:56.080 injury type vibe. 0:07:56.120 --> 0:07:58.080 Okay, I might have got hurt, been like you know. 0:07:58.040 --> 0:08:03.080 What, Yeah, before that thought had been like nah, like 0:08:03.120 --> 0:08:04.280 I still want to go to the league, Like it's 0:08:04.320 --> 0:08:06.320 a dream of mine, like you know how the kid 0:08:06.440 --> 0:08:08.680 like even when you get some hype or whatever, like 0:08:08.680 --> 0:08:10.640 you sold laser focused like yo, like I still want 0:08:10.640 --> 0:08:11.800 to go to the league, so like all that shit 0:08:11.840 --> 0:08:15.680 don't really matter, so you know, but once you get hurt, 0:08:16.000 --> 0:08:18.000 it ain't really working out or whatever. Like my first 0:08:18.040 --> 0:08:19.520 two years in the league, just sitting on the bench 0:08:19.560 --> 0:08:23.120 watching I might have been like I got ten of it. 0:08:23.320 --> 0:08:25.679 Yeah I'm still broke. 0:08:26.760 --> 0:08:29.560 Well yeah, yeah, I mean that's real. That's the fact. Real. 0:08:30.400 --> 0:08:33.199 Hey, people don't know. We were just before you came here. 0:08:33.240 --> 0:08:37.800 We was talking about your rookie year. Yeah, broke you 0:08:38.360 --> 0:08:41.520 And now they tell me my budget was three thousand a. 0:08:41.600 --> 0:08:47.160 Month mine, it's probably close to like ten damn no, no, 0:08:47.360 --> 0:08:49.120 we're talking about we're not including. 0:08:48.720 --> 0:08:52.640 Bills for you just to have probably something like that. 0:08:52.760 --> 0:08:57.240 Yeah yeah, I was like, damn was in Detroit. But 0:08:58.640 --> 0:09:01.400 it may have been with money you got renting other 0:09:01.400 --> 0:09:06.080 stuff you gotta do. Yeah, we were oh no, like 0:09:07.440 --> 0:09:15.680 that's just like you know, and buy some extra clothes, 0:09:15.760 --> 0:09:18.480 eat what everyone. Yeah iddress. I was wearing Team Geared 0:09:18.520 --> 0:09:19.840 in I was running bands then, so it. 0:09:19.880 --> 0:09:21.680 Might've been a little bit less than three to be honest, 0:09:22.000 --> 0:09:24.120 like I was putting, I was thinking about like you know, 0:09:24.600 --> 0:09:28.319 RNT car like any other little stuff do like. 0:09:29.160 --> 0:09:30.920 But yeah, when I got in the league, my minim. 0:09:30.679 --> 0:09:33.440 Was five hundred thousand, so like I was back before 0:09:33.920 --> 0:09:36.480 inflation and Lebron James got a new TV so that's 0:09:37.760 --> 0:09:38.480 getting no money? 0:09:38.880 --> 0:09:41.200 Was that your parents are more so you like giving 0:09:41.240 --> 0:09:43.000 you the game on how to treat your bread? 0:09:43.679 --> 0:09:44.319 I mean both. 0:09:44.440 --> 0:09:46.880 I mean my parents stressed like saving and stuff, and 0:09:46.880 --> 0:09:48.960 you know you don't have like real money like that 0:09:49.040 --> 0:09:51.440 you don't know, so I don't know if they necessarily knew, 0:09:51.559 --> 0:09:54.440 but like you know, it's just about like don't blow it. Yeah, 0:09:54.840 --> 0:09:57.640 so I was real basic. I mean, this is I've 0:09:57.720 --> 0:10:00.720 been the whole time. That's how I'm wrong with that. 0:10:00.800 --> 0:10:03.120 They know who you are. You ain't got shure. That's 0:10:03.120 --> 0:10:03.920 how I always feel. 0:10:04.000 --> 0:10:06.480 But that's true. That's true. Shit. 0:10:06.720 --> 0:10:09.800 Obviously, did you think Corado Nigga injured? How's that draft process? 0:10:09.880 --> 0:10:11.600 Like you talked about the mental a little bit. How 0:10:11.720 --> 0:10:13.880 was that whole entire process and then actually getting to 0:10:13.920 --> 0:10:15.120 the EBA Compson your dream? 0:10:16.280 --> 0:10:17.000 Uh? 0:10:17.760 --> 0:10:20.560 Yeah, so I got hurt with junior or junior year 0:10:21.440 --> 0:10:24.199 and like all the other stuff. Oh yeah, So basically 0:10:24.240 --> 0:10:26.040 the draft was just a whole lot of like meetings 0:10:26.040 --> 0:10:26.520 and watching. 0:10:27.120 --> 0:10:28.760 You don't do nothing because I couldn't work out. 0:10:29.040 --> 0:10:32.080 So yeah, I met with all the teams, like did 0:10:32.160 --> 0:10:36.359 medical had like five thousand MRIs, all the same questions, 0:10:36.640 --> 0:10:39.440 all the same stuff, And I knew I probably wasn't 0:10:39.480 --> 0:10:41.320 going in the first round because it like got hurt 0:10:41.360 --> 0:10:43.760 so because I was like edging into the lottery when 0:10:43.800 --> 0:10:47.520 I was playing. Yeah, so I just sat there at 0:10:47.559 --> 0:10:50.800 home and waited there my name called. 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I just played them 0:13:27.480 --> 0:13:30.640 all like I'm not thinking I'm not gonna come back whatever. 0:13:30.679 --> 0:13:32.480 I'm gonna be good, Like I'm gonna go to the team. 0:13:32.679 --> 0:13:33.920 I'm a b weapons in front of me and I'm 0:13:33.960 --> 0:13:36.160 gonna play. I think he's like merit based. 0:13:37.160 --> 0:13:43.360 Yeah, no, no, no, it's not like business, not at all. 0:13:43.400 --> 0:13:45.320 But I've seen you at Adidas Nations. It was just 0:13:45.360 --> 0:13:47.920 crazy because I used to I was with a Dida Sit. 0:13:49.520 --> 0:13:52.439 I used to go there, see so I've seen him. 0:13:52.440 --> 0:13:55.440 I seen the Dame Lillards, I seen them. I've seen 0:13:55.480 --> 0:13:57.920 all these guys. So it's just it's kind of crazy 0:13:57.920 --> 0:14:00.480 when I seen you go to the league and I'm 0:14:00.480 --> 0:14:02.560 fast forward it because you went to obviously you went 0:14:02.600 --> 0:14:05.520 to Detroit first. But when Kenny Akason, you got with Kenny, 0:14:05.880 --> 0:14:08.320 Kenny's my Kenny was my guy. 0:14:08.640 --> 0:14:12.520 Yeah, that was my guy guy. So when you got. 0:14:12.320 --> 0:14:16.120 Never mind, just go ahead because because Kenny was my 0:14:16.200 --> 0:14:18.400 guy guy. So he called me and was like when 0:14:18.440 --> 0:14:20.160 you were playing for Kenny you were having he had 0:14:20.200 --> 0:14:22.320 a great year, and he was just like, I told 0:14:22.360 --> 0:14:23.280 him what you told me? 0:14:23.920 --> 0:14:24.760 And I was like, what's that. 0:14:25.200 --> 0:14:29.040 He was like, I'm comfortable with thirty two I don't, nigga, 0:14:29.080 --> 0:14:30.760 my life's going to be straight if I get thirty 0:14:30.760 --> 0:14:32.640 two million. And he was like, I don't. I was like, 0:14:32.640 --> 0:14:35.480 I don't need a max deal, Like I'm fine. Like 0:14:35.520 --> 0:14:37.560 if I can't make my life straight with thirty two million, 0:14:37.640 --> 0:14:40.120 I'm doing something wrong. He was like I told him that. 0:14:41.080 --> 0:14:42.400 I don't know if he told you that, but that's 0:14:42.400 --> 0:14:43.040 what he told me. 0:14:43.480 --> 0:14:45.880 Yeah, that was That was when I was up for 0:14:45.960 --> 0:14:49.840 like that, because after leaving Detroit, I signed like the 0:14:49.840 --> 0:14:53.640 slave deal for sure, the non guarantee like a bunch 0:14:53.680 --> 0:14:56.080 of triggered that one, and so you're only up for 0:14:56.520 --> 0:14:57.600 like the second rounds. 0:14:57.800 --> 0:14:59.800 I like three for thirty or four forty whatever it was. 0:14:59.840 --> 0:15:03.720 It times it is now, and I didn't want the 0:15:03.720 --> 0:15:05.920 four for forty because of like layering your years and 0:15:05.960 --> 0:15:06.520 your contract. 0:15:06.560 --> 0:15:06.680 You know. 0:15:06.760 --> 0:15:08.600 I was given the three for thirty with a player option, 0:15:09.280 --> 0:15:11.640 and that's kind of where that conversation came from. But yeah, 0:15:11.720 --> 0:15:15.720 not Kenny without without my D League coach Nate Lendser 0:15:15.760 --> 0:15:19.080 and Kenny Atkinson like none of this happens. 0:15:19.200 --> 0:15:20.360 Yeah, I didn't want to. 0:15:20.640 --> 0:15:22.600 I'm my bad and fast forward because I know you 0:15:23.160 --> 0:15:25.640 went through the Detroit phase and that's like a big 0:15:25.680 --> 0:15:26.840 part of your journey to me. 0:15:27.400 --> 0:15:29.040 Oh for sure, Yeah, for sure. 0:15:29.120 --> 0:15:32.480 Like with the Detroit stuff, it was like it taught 0:15:32.480 --> 0:15:36.120 me the hardest version of the NBA. 0:15:36.520 --> 0:15:39.000 So stamming Guny is like a Miami heat disciple for sure. 0:15:39.160 --> 0:15:42.040 So you got the three hour practices everything, tape tape 0:15:42.040 --> 0:15:44.400 shoot arounds, all that other stuff. Rookies got to be 0:15:44.480 --> 0:15:48.880 there two hours before with newspapers and donuts and you 0:15:48.880 --> 0:15:51.440 you practice all the time. You got I had these 0:15:51.480 --> 0:15:53.920 things called ninety nine ninety nins after practice where they 0:15:54.000 --> 0:15:56.000 just put that on a jumbo try and just ran it. 0:15:56.040 --> 0:15:57.960 And I just worked out against coaches full court one 0:15:58.000 --> 0:16:01.080 on one, just like crazy stuff, Like it's more a 0:16:01.160 --> 0:16:05.280 test to your will than it is like me playing 0:16:05.280 --> 0:16:07.280 one on one against you know, ball boys and coaches, 0:16:07.320 --> 0:16:09.760 Like it's not for real, you know. 0:16:09.800 --> 0:16:10.280 What I'm saying. 0:16:10.320 --> 0:16:14.080 Like, so you know it was all that stuff at 0:16:14.080 --> 0:16:17.080 the time Vetscott treatment rookies didn't. So you know, I'm 0:16:17.080 --> 0:16:20.640 fresh off acl doing all this work, not really getting 0:16:20.680 --> 0:16:21.280 treatment like that. 0:16:21.480 --> 0:16:24.160 Things like that. Not a bad way, it's just like 0:16:24.200 --> 0:16:25.400 the culture of what it was. 0:16:25.480 --> 0:16:27.800 But that's what set people back because that's why I 0:16:27.800 --> 0:16:28.520 loved about Leonna. 0:16:28.560 --> 0:16:31.400 They didn't they didn't do that. Yeah, So Detroit was 0:16:31.440 --> 0:16:31.680 like that. 0:16:31.760 --> 0:16:36.200 So I learned like the absolute hardest iteration, at least 0:16:36.200 --> 0:16:37.120 in my mind at the NBA. 0:16:37.280 --> 0:16:42.000 So when I got to Brooklyn with Kenny, it was love. 0:16:42.040 --> 0:16:45.360 And then also just from a coaching standpoint, he had 0:16:45.400 --> 0:16:47.320 told me same like kind of my daily coach. They 0:16:47.320 --> 0:16:49.840 were like, look, bro, like you're gonna make mistakes, Like, 0:16:49.840 --> 0:16:51.320 don't worry about it, because when you're in the other 0:16:51.360 --> 0:16:53.120 system and you're thinking, like I gotta get the ball 0:16:53.120 --> 0:16:55.640 to this guy, I gotta be just. I gotta just 0:16:55.720 --> 0:16:57.800 run the play. That was you know, told to me 0:16:57.880 --> 0:17:01.080 like I gotta not mess up. You can't play imperfect 0:17:01.120 --> 0:17:03.800 game trying not to mess up. You know what I'm saying, 0:17:03.840 --> 0:17:06.640 You just you fail every time. So with those two, 0:17:06.720 --> 0:17:09.320 they were like, yo, like we believe in you play, 0:17:09.640 --> 0:17:10.480 like do your thing. 0:17:10.560 --> 0:17:12.920 And then that's when it was kind of a rap. 0:17:13.119 --> 0:17:15.120 Is that when you got comfortable in the league though. 0:17:15.160 --> 0:17:16.160 Oh for sure, I think. 0:17:16.240 --> 0:17:18.560 I think in my mind it takes about a year 0:17:18.560 --> 0:17:22.000 and a half of being able to just play to 0:17:22.040 --> 0:17:25.160 get comfortable in the NBA. I think when you first 0:17:25.200 --> 0:17:26.800 get in the league or when you first start playing 0:17:26.880 --> 0:17:27.080 the game. 0:17:27.119 --> 0:17:28.200 My first two years, like you can kind of just 0:17:28.280 --> 0:17:28.880 leap on the side. 0:17:28.880 --> 0:17:31.360 But let's say year three, I was getting out there, 0:17:31.359 --> 0:17:33.280 like I gotta get to it, like. 0:17:34.080 --> 0:17:35.879 Just trying to like hoop as best I could. 0:17:36.440 --> 0:17:38.359 Halfway through probably my fourth years when it kind of 0:17:38.400 --> 0:17:42.120 like slowed down your anticipating reads, anticipating coverages, you learn 0:17:42.200 --> 0:17:44.199 what other teams like to do, all that stuff. So 0:17:44.240 --> 0:17:47.040 I think it takes that time period of like actually 0:17:47.040 --> 0:17:49.320 stacking games. So let's say maybe like one hundred games 0:17:49.400 --> 0:17:52.719 under your belt, like really playing you're like, okay, like 0:17:53.560 --> 0:17:56.119 this is the NBA style. 0:17:56.760 --> 0:17:58.359 So what VIC gave you the game? 0:17:58.440 --> 0:17:58.720 Though? 0:18:03.640 --> 0:18:05.840 Yeah, in terms of taking care of my body, Joe Anthony, 0:18:06.560 --> 0:18:09.200 he was a great vet. In terms of just like 0:18:10.720 --> 0:18:12.560 keeping my head up and stuff like that, I would 0:18:12.560 --> 0:18:16.160 say Karen Butler, Jody Mixing, Greg Moro. Where the guys, 0:18:17.440 --> 0:18:25.400 oh Moose, my dog's my big thirteen really yeaha respect, 0:18:26.840 --> 0:18:28.840 So those are the guys that were like because we 0:18:28.960 --> 0:18:30.720 do stuff like one on ones and things like that. 0:18:30.760 --> 0:18:33.040 I see in practice and I'd be killing it right 0:18:33.160 --> 0:18:36.080 never playing though, And so they were just like look 0:18:36.119 --> 0:18:38.680 bro or look young fella, like you're. 0:18:38.520 --> 0:18:40.160 Gonna be all right, it's gonna work out. 0:18:40.520 --> 0:18:42.439 We see what you're doing in practice, like you can 0:18:42.480 --> 0:18:45.000 play at this level, like it's gonna something's gonna happen. 0:18:45.040 --> 0:18:48.359 Something's gonna happen. And I don't even think I really 0:18:48.359 --> 0:18:50.239 believe him at the time. I'm just sitting there like 0:18:50.960 --> 0:18:55.719 Loki soaking. I'm killing in practicing, like like no minutes. 0:18:56.000 --> 0:18:59.200 I think one year I played twelve games and those 0:18:59.200 --> 0:19:02.560 are all like thirty seconds a piece, like I wouldn't 0:19:02.640 --> 0:19:03.840 like playing it. 0:19:03.880 --> 0:19:06.280 Oh, you talk about when you. 0:19:06.280 --> 0:19:09.000 Had an NBA moment like but you're like, damn, I'm 0:19:09.000 --> 0:19:10.960 here now, I'm ready to really get. 0:19:10.840 --> 0:19:13.760 To a moment for my confidence or like just. 0:19:13.920 --> 0:19:17.240 For your confidence, and when you felt like, Okay, I'm 0:19:17.240 --> 0:19:19.800 about to really start giving trying to give niggas twenty 0:19:19.800 --> 0:19:20.120 at night. 0:19:22.440 --> 0:19:22.679 That was. 0:19:22.760 --> 0:19:25.240 That was probably some time in Brooklyn when I when 0:19:25.280 --> 0:19:28.480 I started feeling like that, but you chucking that motherfucking Brooklyn. 0:19:28.600 --> 0:19:32.600 Yeah up. That was That was sometime in Brooklyn. I mean, 0:19:33.160 --> 0:19:36.680 but when I felt like, okay, you'll be all right. 0:19:36.920 --> 0:19:39.600 Was I had my first start against d Rose, I 0:19:39.680 --> 0:19:43.080 had like twelve and like ten or something like that. 0:19:43.119 --> 0:19:45.120 And then I had a game probably like a week 0:19:45.200 --> 0:19:47.879 later against John Wall at the Wizard had like twenty. 0:19:47.920 --> 0:19:50.040 It was like my first twin point game. I was 0:19:50.080 --> 0:19:52.560 like okay, like because those were people you look up to. 0:19:53.000 --> 0:19:54.600 You you know what I'm saying. So it wasn't just 0:19:54.640 --> 0:19:58.360 like you know, the backups were playing or you went 0:19:58.400 --> 0:20:00.000 in there and it wasn't a real game or something 0:20:00.200 --> 0:20:02.960 like you know real games and you know, so play 0:20:03.000 --> 0:20:05.119 well against them. They gave me confidences like Okay, you 0:20:05.160 --> 0:20:08.399 can do it. And then in Brooklyn, I mean I 0:20:08.440 --> 0:20:11.320 had to run. Had to be probably year four where 0:20:11.320 --> 0:20:13.600 I was like hitting like game winners and stuff, and 0:20:13.760 --> 0:20:18.440 I was like all right with everybody talking about it's 0:20:18.480 --> 0:20:18.920 on now. 0:20:19.080 --> 0:20:21.280 Yeah, that was probably it yere four. 0:20:21.680 --> 0:20:23.840 Like when we get when you first get to the league, 0:20:24.000 --> 0:20:26.879 obviously it's a it's a it's a difference, like you 0:20:26.960 --> 0:20:29.159 start seeing like damn, I was nice in college, but 0:20:29.200 --> 0:20:32.360 these dudes are crazy, and so you kind of embraced 0:20:32.359 --> 0:20:34.800 that moment. But like when they start picking on you, 0:20:35.640 --> 0:20:38.199 and they do the rookie hayes and they all the 0:20:38.240 --> 0:20:41.080 little ship that come with being a rookie. Did you 0:20:41.119 --> 0:20:43.840 have a rookie hayes? And did you your car popcorn? 0:20:43.960 --> 0:20:45.840 Did you get you know, I had to bring donuts 0:20:45.880 --> 0:20:46.439 all that stuff. 0:20:46.560 --> 0:20:47.600 Yeah, I had donuts. 0:20:47.840 --> 0:20:47.959 Uh. 0:20:49.240 --> 0:20:51.159 Uh the newspaper and then. 0:20:51.040 --> 0:20:53.560 They like that's the old as team, that's the newspapers. 0:20:54.000 --> 0:20:57.320 They like, uh like, try to tie it to a chair, 0:20:57.400 --> 0:20:59.560 throw me in the ice up goddamn. 0:21:00.000 --> 0:21:04.120 Because I was like I had that level of like, look, 0:21:04.160 --> 0:21:05.240 I respect. 0:21:04.800 --> 0:21:09.080 All y'all, but I'm not hearing it if you can't 0:21:09.160 --> 0:21:11.320 guard me. Bro, Like stop talking to me crazy, Like 0:21:11.359 --> 0:21:13.960 I don't want to hear that. So there was a 0:21:14.040 --> 0:21:16.760 level of that, like they say something like. 0:21:16.800 --> 0:21:21.600 Bro, who got you want to get newspapers? 0:21:21.600 --> 0:21:26.159 The person who was born boy papers and uh a 0:21:26.600 --> 0:21:29.360 notebook with a pen because he wanted to like occasionally 0:21:29.400 --> 0:21:30.160 write raps. 0:21:30.280 --> 0:21:33.280 And it was like, bro, man, my boy had bars. 0:21:33.320 --> 0:21:39.200 We celebrate on here. I don't even remember celebrate. 0:21:38.800 --> 0:21:45.160 One like old school black and white composition joints. Bro 0:21:45.280 --> 0:21:50.639 like not wrapping for real? Why of bars? The leak celebrate. 0:21:52.720 --> 0:21:57.160 Ass come from the lineage to like Joe Smith. That's 0:21:57.440 --> 0:22:01.639 my best was Joe Smith. Eric Damn period time. I 0:22:01.680 --> 0:22:05.439 had some old head, so they my car because I 0:22:05.560 --> 0:22:06.639 wasn't going for nothing. 0:22:07.200 --> 0:22:09.000 Bro, That's what I'm saying. I'm in here. I'm not 0:22:09.080 --> 0:22:13.040 going like I bring the donuts, but like Bro relax. 0:22:12.800 --> 0:22:14.639 I brung donuts and they never ate them. And I 0:22:14.720 --> 0:22:16.439 kept on my locker and I just kept puting them. 0:22:16.440 --> 0:22:19.320 The box up there, and finally Josh Smith had a 0:22:19.440 --> 0:22:21.080 drunk night and the donuts were green. 0:22:22.480 --> 0:22:24.360 He opened them up. He said, Man, what the fu 0:22:26.800 --> 0:22:30.119 car was popped? My car was popped cords so Karan 0:22:30.200 --> 0:22:36.520 never spit that for you, Bro, Bro crazy, that's crazy. Wow. 0:22:36.600 --> 0:22:39.119 I see trying to get deals and keep it clean 0:22:39.359 --> 0:22:43.720 here and when I it's gonna be, you gotta pick 0:22:43.760 --> 0:22:44.200 a side. 0:22:44.240 --> 0:22:45.359 What like. 0:22:46.840 --> 0:22:48.280 Up for it? It's crazy, Bro. 0:22:49.880 --> 0:22:58.560 Split up and Spitial games talking ship. That ain't nothing 0:22:59.400 --> 0:23:00.919 bo Hello interview. 0:23:06.119 --> 0:23:08.840 That's the best thing about the show as fun it is, 0:23:09.040 --> 0:23:11.240 it's very challeish, Man. We gotta talk about it, man, 0:23:11.240 --> 0:23:13.199 That's what I realized. I was like, Spencer is a 0:23:13.200 --> 0:23:15.480 real hustler because you're trying to get that deal in Bigcoin. 0:23:15.840 --> 0:23:17.840 I said, my boy is a real finessor please talk 0:23:17.880 --> 0:23:20.320 about how you got to that situation, man, all. 0:23:20.320 --> 0:23:23.040 Right, son. 0:23:23.160 --> 0:23:25.480 The funny part about that is, like it may headline 0:23:25.480 --> 0:23:29.280 because of the bitcoin aspect, because like the league threatened 0:23:29.280 --> 0:23:32.520 to kick me out. That's crazych was a whole other thing. 0:23:32.600 --> 0:23:36.240 But really it was a play on blockchain technology. So 0:23:37.200 --> 0:23:43.440 you the thirty second. Blockchain technology is about like micro transactions, 0:23:44.200 --> 0:23:47.280 being able to send stuff peer to peer, like adding 0:23:47.320 --> 0:23:50.160 liquidity to whatever system it is. So I was trying 0:23:50.200 --> 0:23:53.960 to decentralize sports contracts, all this betting that we see 0:23:54.000 --> 0:23:56.480 and everything that's going on now, trying to do that 0:23:56.520 --> 0:23:58.600 ship back in what was it twenty seventeen or something 0:23:58.600 --> 0:24:01.239 like that. So it was a play opening up like 0:24:01.520 --> 0:24:06.320 the sports contract world, and they were like Champ, m hm, 0:24:06.359 --> 0:24:07.440 it's through, We're gonna kick. 0:24:07.359 --> 0:24:08.000 You out the league. 0:24:08.040 --> 0:24:11.480 So that I had to like redo it in a 0:24:11.480 --> 0:24:13.600 bunch of different ways to like be complying with the 0:24:13.680 --> 0:24:17.679 NBA because you know, I love my job, Thank you guys, 0:24:17.680 --> 0:24:19.480 shout out in the NBA, shout out to the NBA 0:24:19.840 --> 0:24:24.120 facts whatnot. But uh yeah, I mean that that's really 0:24:24.200 --> 0:24:27.920 what it was about. And so it became far more 0:24:27.920 --> 0:24:30.000 bitcoin centric because. 0:24:29.680 --> 0:24:31.120 That's kind of what they were going to. 0:24:31.040 --> 0:24:35.720 Allow versus the overall business of what I was trying 0:24:35.720 --> 0:24:38.960 to do, because I mean, as you see with gambling 0:24:39.000 --> 0:24:41.480 and the parlays and everything going on with fan doing 0:24:41.520 --> 0:24:44.520 draftings and all that, right now, I wanted to, you know, 0:24:44.960 --> 0:24:47.800 slide my little business idea in there. They get bought out, 0:24:48.320 --> 0:24:51.480 they make ten band dolls, I make one, and I'm like, man, 0:24:51.480 --> 0:24:51.960 it's all good. 0:24:52.000 --> 0:24:54.440 I'm partnering with the league. And they were like, that 0:24:54.520 --> 0:24:59.960 was what they were saying, right, No, they wasn't. 0:25:00.480 --> 0:25:02.720 When he said when he when I read about it, 0:25:03.119 --> 0:25:07.119 I said, he a mad genius. I said, I was 0:25:07.560 --> 0:25:10.359 on his way out. 0:25:08.960 --> 0:25:14.840 I where I said, he is a mad genius. 0:25:14.880 --> 0:25:17.320 I said he bareter lead him alone because he thinking, 0:25:17.600 --> 0:25:19.399 he thinking ten steps ahead. 0:25:19.560 --> 0:25:27.040 And they don't. I bet he knows. Don't worry about it, 0:25:27.040 --> 0:25:30.399 you know. Yeah, he was a mad genius. He was 0:25:30.400 --> 0:25:31.480 about to be junior Bridgeman. 0:25:31.720 --> 0:25:33.720 Yeah, I said he was a mad genius. They would 0:25:33.760 --> 0:25:36.600 have They wasn't allowing him to be a mad genius. 0:25:36.760 --> 0:25:38.840 Like it's the n B A I still love the NBA. 0:25:39.280 --> 0:25:39.520 Listen. 0:25:39.640 --> 0:25:42.400 I can't wait to go to J Cole's party and uh, 0:25:42.560 --> 0:25:45.280 what's it called Dreamville, I'll be there shout out to 0:25:45.320 --> 0:25:45.720 the NBA. 0:25:47.119 --> 0:25:51.400 I was like, he's NBA. I'm going to the NBA. 0:25:51.560 --> 0:25:53.760 I just wanted to espersonally bought the Lord gonna bless 0:25:53.760 --> 0:25:55.399 you one day. 0:25:55.240 --> 0:25:59.840 But I think like, because that's the moment when I 0:25:59.880 --> 0:26:02.840 was like, Yo, he's different. Because me, I was just like, 0:26:03.320 --> 0:26:06.320 I've know that I got the bread. For him to 0:26:06.400 --> 0:26:08.760 think like that, I was like, he's different. He probably 0:26:08.760 --> 0:26:11.480 gonna do something. So even that, and for you making 0:26:11.520 --> 0:26:14.760 your own shoe, I remember seeing you on the court, 0:26:14.800 --> 0:26:17.119 and I'm like, this nigga really got his own shoes, 0:26:17.280 --> 0:26:20.119 Like he really got his own shoes. And now to 0:26:20.160 --> 0:26:22.520 see that, like to do that. And then I see 0:26:22.640 --> 0:26:25.720 guys like Jaylen Brown, you know sexy. 0:26:26.200 --> 0:26:30.439 Yeah, so that's that's something that I guess in the 0:26:30.480 --> 0:26:32.399 history books, I probably won't get much credit for it, 0:26:32.480 --> 0:26:34.440 but like now it's sexy. 0:26:34.440 --> 0:26:35.560 I'm happy Jameson Brown is doing. 0:26:35.680 --> 0:26:39.320 Now I'm gonna give you your You're not gonna pass him, no, 0:26:39.600 --> 0:26:44.159 I mean yeah, he said, he said sexy. 0:26:47.160 --> 0:26:48.320 You ain't getting no pass on this. 0:26:53.080 --> 0:26:55.040 I was like, because they kind of looked like Kobe's 0:26:55.080 --> 0:26:56.639 a little bit and I was like, I was like, 0:26:56.720 --> 0:26:59.159 he like Kobe, like when I first see it, but 0:26:59.200 --> 0:27:00.720 you probably remember I for some of them. 0:27:00.760 --> 0:27:03.680 I said, Yo, can't get some of them? Yeah? 0:27:03.800 --> 0:27:05.159 Actually I did. I was like, you can't get some 0:27:05.200 --> 0:27:07.480 of his shoes Brooklyn ball boys. I was like, YO, 0:27:07.520 --> 0:27:09.760 tell a dude, I want some shoes. They was like, yeah, 0:27:09.760 --> 0:27:10.680 he don't give them out. 0:27:10.800 --> 0:27:11.639 I was like, damn. 0:27:12.280 --> 0:27:15.600 I was like, he's stingy with I don't know why. 0:27:15.720 --> 0:27:17.719 They said not, he don't be giving them out. I 0:27:17.760 --> 0:27:28.320 was like, for real, I was like, this ship's weak bought. 0:27:28.359 --> 0:27:31.440 Yah, I bought the laws of I never got them. 0:27:32.200 --> 0:27:34.760 My boy, I'm still away from my triple B. I 0:27:34.840 --> 0:27:38.760 spent five. But then I seen you. I'm like, bro, 0:27:38.840 --> 0:27:39.560 he really you? 0:27:39.640 --> 0:27:42.119 And again yeah, got his own shoes and I'm like 0:27:43.560 --> 0:27:46.600 that's hard. I'm like, I want some of his shoes. 0:27:46.640 --> 0:27:47.720 They like, yeah, don't give them out. 0:27:47.760 --> 0:27:48.480 What made you do that? 0:27:48.560 --> 0:27:48.800 Though? 0:27:50.359 --> 0:27:54.080 So basically again like kind of entrepreneur mindset, like I'm 0:27:54.119 --> 0:27:56.879 again second round, pick all that stuff, Like you want 0:27:56.920 --> 0:27:58.760 to give me like a fifty merch deal. 0:27:59.480 --> 0:28:01.840 I was just like, but no, not few thousand dollars, 0:28:01.880 --> 0:28:02.760 just a little merch. 0:28:03.760 --> 0:28:06.040 If you know anything about that your family fly through 0:28:06.040 --> 0:28:08.200 that thing before you can get it. 0:28:08.320 --> 0:28:10.200 Yeah, I might as well not even have it. 0:28:10.200 --> 0:28:12.879 It's in there, Like, yeah, what it'd be like, you 0:28:12.920 --> 0:28:14.480 know what I'm saying, had my own shoes blah blah, 0:28:14.520 --> 0:28:16.320 and like I used to draw shoes kids, So it 0:28:16.359 --> 0:28:19.200 was like, you know, crime Butther doing his wraps, I'm 0:28:19.280 --> 0:28:22.320 drawing shoes, just killing time, and I was like, let. 0:28:22.160 --> 0:28:22.600 Me try it. 0:28:22.600 --> 0:28:26.199 And so it's both harder and not as hard as 0:28:26.240 --> 0:28:28.800 you think if you have like a template to build 0:28:28.800 --> 0:28:31.159 off of, which was a Kobe and so coach is 0:28:31.200 --> 0:28:33.199 my favorite player. I wore Kobe's all the time, and 0:28:33.240 --> 0:28:36.040 so that's kind of how my shoe was constructed. And 0:28:36.080 --> 0:28:41.040 then it turned to a business basically, which then three 0:28:41.080 --> 0:28:44.440 sixty one, which is basically almost I mean you got 0:28:44.440 --> 0:28:47.520 probably like three major brands in China's leaning into the 0:28:47.600 --> 0:28:50.280 three sixty one, and so then they brought me out. 0:28:50.760 --> 0:28:53.440 My signature went up under them, and so you know, 0:28:53.520 --> 0:28:55.480 now I've had a signature with them for three years 0:28:55.520 --> 0:28:58.959 and going forward with that. So it ended up working 0:28:59.000 --> 0:29:03.320 because you know that path took me to them. Not 0:29:03.400 --> 0:29:04.720 only did I make a little bit of money doing 0:29:04.720 --> 0:29:07.600 my own shoe, but then you know, when you're shown 0:29:07.640 --> 0:29:09.400 you can do it, they buy you out and all 0:29:09.440 --> 0:29:12.640 other stuff, become partners everything, they pay you for all that. 0:29:12.920 --> 0:29:16.960 So it turned to a whole different type of deal 0:29:18.720 --> 0:29:20.719 then obviously, like you know, you know how it is 0:29:20.720 --> 0:29:23.560 with like Nike, and I'm like, ain't nobody getting up 0:29:23.600 --> 0:29:26.440 real money off of Nike unless you are that that 0:29:26.600 --> 0:29:30.880 one two three, Yeah, you gotta be Brian, you know, KD, Kyrie, 0:29:31.680 --> 0:29:33.840 those guys other than that, like you're not making no real. 0:29:33.760 --> 0:29:34.280 Money off them. 0:29:34.320 --> 0:29:36.440 But three sixty one they got I got some players 0:29:36.480 --> 0:29:38.480 on that. Oh yeah, definitely, because we just got Yokis. 0:29:38.560 --> 0:29:42.520 Yeah, was like when Yo came over. Yeah, it's little 0:29:42.720 --> 0:29:45.320 I think Aaron first, Yeah. 0:29:45.360 --> 0:29:48.280 Then it was me. Then now they got Yokas. It's 0:29:48.320 --> 0:29:49.720 probably gonna it's gonna be a thing. 0:29:49.920 --> 0:29:51.840 Is it just on the course or off the course? 0:29:53.480 --> 0:29:57.520 I mean say off the court too, But I'm not 0:29:57.560 --> 0:30:00.400 really off the court. 0:30:02.000 --> 0:30:03.840 I really think the only I think the only baskets 0:30:03.840 --> 0:30:05.520 shoot you can get away with off the court probably 0:30:05.600 --> 0:30:09.080 James bro Like nobody's really wearing Kobe's or Bronze or anything. 0:30:08.880 --> 0:30:10.680 Like, don't wear the club. 0:30:10.760 --> 0:30:12.600 Let's be real, Like I know they say you can 0:30:12.720 --> 0:30:15.000 and like you know, maybe bron did some promo for 0:30:15.040 --> 0:30:17.240 that or hardened some promo for that, but like nobody 0:30:17.320 --> 0:30:24.240 doing that. There's Jays, you got designers, Chucks fans. Like 0:30:24.440 --> 0:30:29.400 in terms of American culture off the court, that's sixty 0:30:29.400 --> 0:30:31.360 months off the court of y'all. Come just call me, 0:30:31.440 --> 0:30:31.680 y'all know. 0:30:33.720 --> 0:30:39.239 Yeahway, I realized shoes pulling on that right there? 0:30:39.520 --> 0:30:41.680 That's so yeah, that's last year. Those are the twos 0:30:42.360 --> 0:30:43.560 okay DVD too. 0:30:45.360 --> 0:30:47.440 I'm wearing it. I think it drops in like I 0:30:47.480 --> 0:30:48.160 think it's supposed to. 0:30:48.320 --> 0:30:52.480 Can we get some thirties manes Man on the show. 0:30:53.920 --> 0:30:56.120 And I'm hoping on mar fact, I hope all the time. 0:30:56.240 --> 0:30:58.280 Still there we go. I hoped, and I hoped. The 0:30:58.360 --> 0:31:00.760 answers I hope in some hard nozs. 0:31:00.800 --> 0:31:04.840 That's nons, right, some hard nons. Shout to the family. 0:31:04.880 --> 0:31:06.920 Shouts to the family. I hooped in the deer and 0:31:07.000 --> 0:31:08.640 fox shout to the family under arm. 0:31:09.600 --> 0:31:21.000 Get all right, yeah, I got some ship you all right, cools, 0:31:21.040 --> 0:31:24.640 it just give me a law to its crazy. 0:31:27.640 --> 0:31:36.360 Funny bro the left. That's hard though, that is to matter. 0:31:36.480 --> 0:31:39.280 I want that colorway, look that apple green is fine 0:31:39.280 --> 0:31:40.800 all right, what's shop off camera? For sure? 0:31:40.920 --> 0:31:44.160 The next episode, I got you listen, man, here, You've 0:31:44.160 --> 0:31:45.640 been around for a lot of different stuff. I got 0:31:45.760 --> 0:31:48.080 to ask you most recently. We're gonna fast forward a 0:31:48.080 --> 0:31:50.360 little bit. Where were you at when you found out 0:31:50.400 --> 0:31:52.120 that Luca Dodgers was no longer your teammate? 0:31:52.400 --> 0:31:56.200 That's so let me let me tell you, Like, I 0:31:56.280 --> 0:31:59.640 don't think anybody would disagree with this going into the season, 0:31:59.680 --> 0:32:02.440 you would have thought he was untouchable, right, So we 0:32:02.560 --> 0:32:07.480 m b and and Edwards and Proac, Tatum and l 0:32:07.680 --> 0:32:09.520 and you know those type guys. 0:32:10.880 --> 0:32:11.040 It was. 0:32:11.160 --> 0:32:13.200 It was just crazy because you know, we had an 0:32:13.200 --> 0:32:15.440 early game against Cleveland the next day, so I went 0:32:15.480 --> 0:32:18.040 to sleep early. You know how like on a normal 0:32:18.080 --> 0:32:19.960 game that you might be up twelve to one whatever, 0:32:20.240 --> 0:32:21.800 gonna be up to eight or nine, so you're still 0:32:21.840 --> 0:32:24.200 getting your six, seven, eight hours whatever. 0:32:24.680 --> 0:32:26.360 But we had to be up early. We were playing 0:32:26.360 --> 0:32:27.800 at like two or something like that. So I probably 0:32:27.840 --> 0:32:30.960 went to bedter like eleven or maybe a little bit 0:32:31.000 --> 0:32:31.400 earlier than that. 0:32:31.560 --> 0:32:34.280 So when I woke up, I knew it was a problem, 0:32:34.400 --> 0:32:35.720 or not a problem, but I knew it was someone 0:32:35.800 --> 0:32:39.440 on because I had like other NBA player miscalls like 0:32:40.280 --> 0:32:43.000 like Zach Lavine d Lo, like people like something open 0:32:43.080 --> 0:32:46.720 on my phone, Like why I got like three miscalls 0:32:46.760 --> 0:32:47.080 from d Lo? 0:32:47.240 --> 0:32:48.880 Why I got like a couple miss calls from Zach, 0:32:49.000 --> 0:32:50.400 Like hell going on? 0:32:50.480 --> 0:32:52.920 Like I saw my agent, but like whatever he called for, 0:32:52.920 --> 0:32:55.520 whatever you called for, and then I went to my 0:32:55.600 --> 0:32:57.239 messages and that's when you know what I'm saying, it's 0:32:57.240 --> 0:32:57.480 set in. 0:32:57.640 --> 0:33:00.280 So yeah, I mean everybody was just shock. 0:33:00.360 --> 0:33:04.240 Bro, Like, I don't think there's any way to put it, Like, 0:33:04.720 --> 0:33:06.920 you know, both A D my friends, so it's kind 0:33:06.920 --> 0:33:08.840 of like, yeah, you know, it sucks that they're also 0:33:09.240 --> 0:33:11.760 acting like a D ain't probably a top five power 0:33:11.800 --> 0:33:14.240 for it all time, so like talking about the bag 0:33:14.280 --> 0:33:14.880 of chips. 0:33:14.720 --> 0:33:15.600 Or something, which is crazy. 0:33:15.680 --> 0:33:18.800 But I just think anybody that said they could have 0:33:19.560 --> 0:33:21.880 I thought it was gonna happen or predicted it or 0:33:22.080 --> 0:33:24.000 that that's a lot like everybody was. 0:33:24.120 --> 0:33:24.880 Everybody was shocked. 0:33:25.320 --> 0:33:27.680 Yeah, that's one of the moments that everybody remembers where 0:33:27.680 --> 0:33:28.680 they were when that should happened. 0:33:28.680 --> 0:33:30.480 That was like a monumental NBA moment. 0:33:30.400 --> 0:33:32.160 That's going down to NBA here is one of the 0:33:32.240 --> 0:33:36.280 most shocked in moments in NBA history for sure. It's 0:33:37.520 --> 0:33:41.960 it's not like I know, everybody got hurt this year. 0:33:42.440 --> 0:33:46.640 I mean, y'all everybody. Yeah, it's crazy. Were almost forfeit 0:33:46.680 --> 0:33:49.400 the game or something like that. That's what the report said. 0:33:49.400 --> 0:33:51.560 I don't know the rules, but that's what they said. Yeah, 0:33:51.960 --> 0:33:52.800 we're almost forfeited. 0:33:53.400 --> 0:33:54.680 It's crazy. Everybody got hurt. 0:33:54.760 --> 0:33:57.760 But when you look back at that trade, it's not 0:33:57.880 --> 0:34:02.520 as Luca is great man, he's amazing, but it's not 0:34:02.600 --> 0:34:04.160 as bad as That's what. 0:34:04.160 --> 0:34:07.120 I said, like ad a top five powerful, top seventy 0:34:07.120 --> 0:34:10.000 five for sure, what I'm saying, top seventy five. And 0:34:10.880 --> 0:34:13.239 if you look at what he was able to do 0:34:13.360 --> 0:34:16.080 in conjunction with like Gaff and stuff in the Rocket skin. 0:34:16.200 --> 0:34:19.160 One game they played, they played the first half. I 0:34:19.239 --> 0:34:24.160 think the Rockets scored thirty eight points. It was in 0:34:24.239 --> 0:34:26.600 the rock time, what second in the West something like that. 0:34:26.680 --> 0:34:32.279 They hooping, they're doing well, like and that trio of PJ. A. 0:34:32.480 --> 0:34:36.160 D And Gaff it was just nowhere to go. So 0:34:36.600 --> 0:34:38.439 you know, that was that was exciting to see. 0:34:38.640 --> 0:34:41.200 I got I understood what was going on. I mean, 0:34:41.200 --> 0:34:43.000 it still was a shocking trailer. I understood it, but 0:34:43.080 --> 0:34:46.600 it wasn't like, like, damn, they ain't getting nothing back. 0:34:46.760 --> 0:34:48.120 Yeah, that's that was the thing. 0:34:48.440 --> 0:34:50.239 Like and like I said, they both my friends and 0:34:50.480 --> 0:34:54.000 l to me is probably the best offensive player in 0:34:54.040 --> 0:34:56.279 the NBA right now, you know what I'm saying. And 0:34:56.880 --> 0:34:59.880 but Ad might be the best two way play probably him, 0:35:00.120 --> 0:35:02.680 honest right, Like, So it's not like sir, you know, 0:35:02.800 --> 0:35:05.440 it's it's it's a tough position to be in. Like 0:35:05.560 --> 0:35:09.239 I said, the only thing that that sucks is that 0:35:09.400 --> 0:35:11.839 they acting like a boom. That's that's the crazy part. 0:35:11.960 --> 0:35:13.840 Like you can feel like you feel about the trade, 0:35:15.239 --> 0:35:18.120 win lose, better for now, better for future, whatever it 0:35:18.160 --> 0:35:18.400 may be. 0:35:18.560 --> 0:35:21.279 But like, we gotta stop backing like a d ain't 0:35:21.320 --> 0:35:30.200 a d we got, we gotta that's just that we got. 0:35:30.320 --> 0:35:30.960 We gotta stop that. 0:35:31.239 --> 0:35:33.839 Well, we're talking about good guards now. Now, now we're 0:35:33.840 --> 0:35:38.959 talking about language. Yeah, you said Luca the best offensive guard. 0:35:39.239 --> 0:35:44.640 Yeah you think Luca bag is deeper than say or Edwards. 0:35:46.880 --> 0:35:49.120 You guarded you guard all these Yeah, and you a 0:35:49.200 --> 0:35:52.040 bigger guard, and you one of the best isolation guards 0:35:52.080 --> 0:35:52.640 in the league. 0:35:52.840 --> 0:35:54.960 Yes, And I know that, I know that, I know. 0:35:55.239 --> 0:35:57.080 Listen, listen, can I tell you this all the time. 0:35:57.520 --> 0:35:59.560 I think this year right now like top fifteen, but 0:35:59.640 --> 0:36:00.520 every yeah, I've been. 0:36:00.440 --> 0:36:03.520 Like top ten. Yeah, I know I've been like I 0:36:03.560 --> 0:36:08.520 don't I know, I know every years were like and 0:36:08.600 --> 0:36:09.560 I'll be catching. 0:36:09.360 --> 0:36:11.399 Hell and heat on like social media and ship because 0:36:11.440 --> 0:36:13.080 they'll look at like the rankings and they'll be like 0:36:13.520 --> 0:36:16.880 k D Jimmy Spence and. 0:36:16.920 --> 0:36:20.120 Then like the other guys will be like Tatum like 0:36:20.400 --> 0:36:22.160 how the hell he in there? Why he in there? 0:36:22.840 --> 0:36:26.000 Like that between the hesitation, He's going, I know it, 0:36:27.080 --> 0:36:30.560 I'm there in I know, I know it. 0:36:31.600 --> 0:36:38.000 But now I would say back between those three, uh 0:36:40.800 --> 0:36:43.680 you guard all three? Who the toughest cover? Toughest cover 0:36:43.960 --> 0:36:44.320 for me? 0:36:47.480 --> 0:36:51.399 No? No, So here's the deal. I think I think 0:36:51.480 --> 0:36:52.879 styles make fights back. 0:36:53.320 --> 0:36:55.520 Like, for example, somebody I hate Garden that won't be 0:36:55.560 --> 0:36:56.920 in that list, Darius Garland. 0:36:58.480 --> 0:37:01.719 He just so much is jittery ship that I'm like, bro, 0:37:02.239 --> 0:37:07.080 relax the end of my career. Like yeah, like I'm like, bro, 0:37:07.320 --> 0:37:08.880 like stop stop moving. 0:37:08.960 --> 0:37:13.240 So Shae likes to get to that like big shoulder 0:37:13.360 --> 0:37:16.839 bump to the MIDI, which for me is a little 0:37:16.880 --> 0:37:19.360 bit easier than like like I said, there's gone and 0:37:19.400 --> 0:37:22.520 something like that because I can kind of pause if 0:37:22.600 --> 0:37:25.560 necessarily absorb that contact and like still kind of play them. 0:37:27.960 --> 0:37:31.080 I like the guy, but he got a crazy whistle though, 0:37:31.200 --> 0:37:36.720 so like you're fucking around foul out to Superstars Superstar ever. 0:37:36.600 --> 0:37:39.839 Got post game? But right now with the way he's 0:37:39.840 --> 0:37:41.840 shooting the three and it's explosive as he is, Like, 0:37:42.960 --> 0:37:43.560 that's tough cover. 0:37:44.080 --> 0:37:46.440 So you're going to sleep early for that. 0:37:49.080 --> 0:37:53.400 Yeah, they all nice, though it's tough, like to be honest, 0:37:53.480 --> 0:37:56.239 like Shae's bag with pivots and stuff like that. In 0:37:56.360 --> 0:37:58.319 terms of what we think of his guards, it's probably 0:37:58.320 --> 0:38:01.239 a little bit deeper than theirs, and it's got the exposiveness. 0:38:01.280 --> 0:38:03.800 And once you add the post game, it changes that 0:38:04.520 --> 0:38:07.839 conversation with L because you know, you put a small 0:38:07.880 --> 0:38:09.920 guy on L, like he's really walking you to the 0:38:09.960 --> 0:38:11.759 block Christmas, Like she's. 0:38:11.480 --> 0:38:13.200 Bumped fade off the block. 0:38:14.120 --> 0:38:17.000 It's that's more like ice so two man game, like 0:38:17.600 --> 0:38:19.759 you can really bury you, like you'll just walk you. 0:38:19.760 --> 0:38:20.920 Down, walk you down and walk you down. 0:38:21.640 --> 0:38:25.480 Push them, you know what I'm saying, Like they all 0:38:25.600 --> 0:38:27.880 to covers, they all to me are elite guards and 0:38:28.560 --> 0:38:31.440 obviously they're all in the MVP conversation every year whatever 0:38:31.480 --> 0:38:33.840 they've been in these last couple of years. But I 0:38:34.400 --> 0:38:37.120 know you and like seeing you compete against them, and 0:38:37.160 --> 0:38:39.879 you were a bigger guard to me six five sixty six. 0:38:40.480 --> 0:38:42.279 I'm six to one. I used to be like this 0:38:42.400 --> 0:38:47.359 mo fucker tall at ship. You are like taller ship. 0:38:47.440 --> 0:38:50.080 So I remember I was on the Pacers and you 0:38:50.160 --> 0:38:52.640 were playing for Brooklyn and the point guard was Isaiah 0:38:52.680 --> 0:38:58.520 Whitehead started broh, yes, I swear, and people that know me, 0:38:58.640 --> 0:39:01.480 I talk ship all day. So I'm talking ship to Kenny. 0:39:01.520 --> 0:39:03.359 I'm like, you gotta get this motherfucker out of here. 0:39:03.840 --> 0:39:04.799 He can't play. 0:39:05.440 --> 0:39:09.640 I'm like, you can't play, and Kenny like shut and 0:39:09.840 --> 0:39:13.239 then you supped. Then and Kenny, I'm yeah, shooting a 0:39:13.280 --> 0:39:15.600 free throw. I walked this. I'm like, yo, he can't play. 0:39:16.160 --> 0:39:21.480 He was like this motherfucker can and I'm like, I'm 0:39:21.600 --> 0:39:24.480 like what, he ain't even playing. He was like he's 0:39:24.480 --> 0:39:26.480 gonna be starting from here on out. I'll tell you that. 0:39:26.719 --> 0:39:29.120 Watch I'm telling you six six and me and him 0:39:29.120 --> 0:39:30.879 are having a conversation in the middle of the game, 0:39:31.320 --> 0:39:33.120 and then I've seen it fast forward. 0:39:33.160 --> 0:39:36.080 I'm like, damn, this mother fuck about to get paid. 0:39:37.840 --> 0:39:38.920 Kenny seen something. 0:39:39.280 --> 0:39:41.440 Yeah, you came off the bench and it was just 0:39:41.560 --> 0:39:43.640 brook Low pez shooting threes and all this ship and 0:39:43.800 --> 0:39:45.560 you came and you started starting. 0:39:45.680 --> 0:39:46.480 You had your run. 0:39:46.840 --> 0:39:49.040 But Kenny called that ship out. I remember that game 0:39:49.120 --> 0:39:51.640 Isaiah Whitehall was starting. You came in and he called 0:39:51.680 --> 0:39:54.359 that ship you a bucket. I appreciate you can't man 0:39:55.320 --> 0:39:59.000 like Kenny real for sure, man the blueprints real with him. 0:39:59.040 --> 0:40:00.799 Look at this we talk about how Drum right now, 0:40:00.920 --> 0:40:01.840 like his impact on. 0:40:01.880 --> 0:40:05.440 Guards has proven for even like d Low he got 0:40:05.480 --> 0:40:07.040 with Kenny, it was just for sure. 0:40:07.480 --> 0:40:09.359 I think like the other thing too, is like when 0:40:09.520 --> 0:40:11.600 when Kenny was younger, he used to hoop with you, 0:40:11.719 --> 0:40:15.520 usually be in a like so you felt like he 0:40:15.600 --> 0:40:16.960 had your back in the sense like he's gonna do 0:40:17.000 --> 0:40:18.720 the work out with you type of vibe. Like sometimes 0:40:18.760 --> 0:40:20.680 it was crazy and he got hurt doing it towards 0:40:20.760 --> 0:40:23.040 Quad one time doing that ship but damn oh yeah, 0:40:23.120 --> 0:40:26.959 I was to isolate, uh, Jared Allen. We was all kids, 0:40:27.000 --> 0:40:29.360 basically Brooklyn towards. 0:40:32.120 --> 0:40:33.759 Trying to really like Kobe clear out. 0:40:33.880 --> 0:40:36.600 Like Kenny, I used to play, but he used to 0:40:36.600 --> 0:40:40.480 play with no shoes from no He used to play 0:40:40.560 --> 0:40:45.160 barefoot excuse me, I America. He played overseas long time. 0:40:45.239 --> 0:40:48.080 He went to Richmond, but he used to play barefoot, 0:40:48.400 --> 0:40:50.960 Like I come in, he will be barefoot where that 0:40:51.040 --> 0:40:54.160 came from, and then you do your drills. He guards 0:40:54.160 --> 0:40:56.239 you the whole Yeah. Yeah, but he used to play 0:40:56.280 --> 0:40:58.440 barefoot three on three with us. 0:40:58.760 --> 0:41:02.920 He got the limit pepper step, but out there hoot a. 0:41:02.960 --> 0:41:07.120 Real grips a lie. I was right, I was right here. 0:41:07.360 --> 0:41:09.719 I was just I was just making it in the league. 0:41:09.760 --> 0:41:13.040 I was starting. I got with Kenny. They all start saying, 0:41:13.120 --> 0:41:18.040 Kenny Levet Star cruising. 0:41:20.000 --> 0:41:22.840 In the NBA one on one on a Hordwood floor, 0:41:23.680 --> 0:41:25.000 barefoot from. 0:41:25.840 --> 0:41:28.160 My right handed guy. Y'all ever meet Kenny, Ask me 0:41:28.160 --> 0:41:30.160 he used to play with those shoes. I know that 0:41:30.280 --> 0:41:34.440 I didn't, but yeah, even in the fire solition. 0:41:34.480 --> 0:41:37.880 I PEO don't understand how much like situation coaches believe 0:41:37.920 --> 0:41:40.239 all that stuff like it matters because there's only so 0:41:40.280 --> 0:41:41.759 many people that can go to the front office and 0:41:41.840 --> 0:41:43.840 be like, oh nah, this is what we're gonna do. 0:41:43.960 --> 0:41:45.720 I don't care what the coach says, like blah blah. 0:41:46.480 --> 0:41:49.600 If you're under that superstar teer bro and the coach 0:41:49.640 --> 0:41:52.600 says like, Nah, we're gonna play this way, then that's 0:41:52.600 --> 0:41:54.719 the way you playing well. That's to your strength, whether 0:41:54.760 --> 0:41:56.920 it's not. You might be out there looking ass even 0:41:56.920 --> 0:41:59.680 though you got a specific strength. But if you tell 0:41:59.680 --> 0:42:01.080 you to do what you gotta try to do it. 0:42:01.200 --> 0:42:05.600 So that's why I'm happy for what they're doing in Cleveland. 0:42:06.080 --> 0:42:07.399 You haveing a hell of a year and you see 0:42:07.400 --> 0:42:09.440 all them guys thriving, even the guys come off the 0:42:09.520 --> 0:42:10.440 bench have moments. 0:42:11.400 --> 0:42:13.719 I'm a big advocate for Kenny Atkinson. That's one of 0:42:13.760 --> 0:42:15.960 my favorite coaches I ever played for you coming up 0:42:16.040 --> 0:42:16.520 under Kenny. 0:42:16.600 --> 0:42:19.000 Could you see yourself coaching one day or taking one 0:42:19.040 --> 0:42:22.760 of them type of roles in the league, hoping against 0:42:22.760 --> 0:42:24.400 the young niggas barefoot. 0:42:24.280 --> 0:42:29.080 I mean for Suf, not that for me. 0:42:29.280 --> 0:42:32.680 I mean I can see if like because Dad's got 0:42:32.719 --> 0:42:35.160 a real good, like family kind of atmosphere. I think, 0:42:35.280 --> 0:42:38.480 you know, Cuban really tried to or mc sorry, he 0:42:38.560 --> 0:42:40.600 tried to establish that. I think it's carrying over obviously 0:42:41.160 --> 0:42:43.840 with a lot of former players like Tyson Chandler, Sei. 0:42:43.760 --> 0:42:45.920 Mary and like still employed by Finley. 0:42:46.360 --> 0:42:48.640 Yeah, Mike Finley, Like if it was a situation where 0:42:49.480 --> 0:42:52.040 I was like almost a practice player, but getting like 0:42:52.120 --> 0:42:55.000 a just a small assistant coach out nothing crazy, but 0:42:55.120 --> 0:42:57.720 like practice player. I come in on your home games, 0:42:58.040 --> 0:43:00.279 but I don't got to travel like all that, Like 0:43:00.520 --> 0:43:02.960 I could do that. But pashion of really being like 0:43:03.000 --> 0:43:05.959 a head coach and all that so serious and sham 0:43:06.080 --> 0:43:09.279 got over there with you. Yeah, but Shaman real coach though, 0:43:09.360 --> 0:43:11.560 like he travels you doing all this stuff like in 0:43:11.680 --> 0:43:16.000 I'm like, I want to come in Tyson Chandler right now, 0:43:16.120 --> 0:43:17.680 he's at every home game, all. 0:43:17.600 --> 0:43:18.320 The home practice. 0:43:18.360 --> 0:43:21.920 He don't travel like I could do that, like practice 0:43:21.960 --> 0:43:25.200 with the players, stay in shape, be a o g 0:43:25.440 --> 0:43:31.239 give wisdom. But then like y'all leave, and yeah, I'm 0:43:31.280 --> 0:43:32.680 not going any what coming game you. 0:43:35.560 --> 0:43:36.080 Are right now? 0:43:36.239 --> 0:43:42.000 I feel put up to that crazy, Yeah, I feel. 0:43:42.080 --> 0:43:43.839 But I was one thing I'll say about the mask 0:43:43.880 --> 0:43:45.560 to be here, could have test. Hey, they take care 0:43:45.600 --> 0:43:48.000 of their people. Boy, listen, we went last year. 0:43:49.120 --> 0:43:52.040 I ain't gonna bring that up. Man, the hospitality, bro, 0:43:52.320 --> 0:43:54.880 we can't. That food for the first family was piff. 0:43:55.320 --> 0:43:57.279 Yeah it was not what the papers. 0:43:57.160 --> 0:43:59.160 Now y'all eat, y'all eat good. You know what I'm 0:43:59.200 --> 0:44:01.120 saying are being is he just he chose to get 0:44:01.160 --> 0:44:05.640 a White Goo hot dog. Yeah, he traveled, he high 0:44:05.680 --> 0:44:07.359 dog contests all that type of ship. 0:44:11.120 --> 0:44:16.719 A glizzy monster. He's a glisy monster. They said they 0:44:16.800 --> 0:44:20.200 had they had lobster steak, shrimp. 0:44:22.239 --> 0:44:24.160 He went to the White Goo station and got a 0:44:25.040 --> 0:44:26.319 he got it glizzy. 0:44:28.200 --> 0:44:31.120 Mike Fricky, Mike Mahan got a glizzy add lobster state 0:44:31.200 --> 0:44:31.640 and shrimp. 0:44:32.120 --> 0:44:33.759 You know, it's different when you eat with white people. 0:44:33.800 --> 0:44:35.600 They said, you try to glizer run there. Who wow, 0:44:41.080 --> 0:44:49.320 they said, wow, is crazy us on the way in. 0:44:52.440 --> 0:44:55.560 Shout to the bass first class organization for sure, for sure, 0:44:55.719 --> 0:44:59.960 for sure. All been listen obviously it's been an upper 0:45:00.080 --> 0:45:01.880 down year for y'all. But I want to ask you. 0:45:02.680 --> 0:45:05.120 I know you are tapping into the social media's but 0:45:05.680 --> 0:45:07.319 your laker tacher, I don't want to talk about too 0:45:07.360 --> 0:45:09.120 much about it, but how was that like playing for 0:45:09.200 --> 0:45:11.160 that organization and then like being on the internet at 0:45:11.200 --> 0:45:11.680 the same time. 0:45:12.760 --> 0:45:18.200 Oh uh, I mean, just because I'm from LA, you 0:45:18.320 --> 0:45:20.200 kind of understand going there what it's going to be. 0:45:20.520 --> 0:45:23.200 So I didn't go in there expecting like for it 0:45:23.320 --> 0:45:25.680 to be something different, like okay, because the. 0:45:25.680 --> 0:45:28.080 Way I got there obviously with the whole like. 0:45:30.120 --> 0:45:32.640 Brooklyn thing and all the shit they went on that way, 0:45:33.000 --> 0:45:37.279 and then picking a team in the bio market. Uh, 0:45:38.080 --> 0:45:40.600 you know for Das, they had Dason Las kind of 0:45:40.600 --> 0:45:42.440 had a similar year, Like nobody knew that was gonna 0:45:42.440 --> 0:45:46.680 take off, like the PJ and Gaff additions like like 0:45:46.920 --> 0:45:49.560 change the whole trajectory and the way they jail and 0:45:49.560 --> 0:45:51.359 all that stuff. So you know, credit to them making 0:45:51.400 --> 0:45:54.040 the finals with the Lakers, Like I knew, Okay, Delos 0:45:54.080 --> 0:45:57.880 there ar's there, uh bron ad. So it's not like 0:45:57.920 --> 0:45:59.680 I'm gonna come there in average twenty like you know 0:45:59.760 --> 0:46:02.320 that one in there. And for the fan base, like 0:46:02.400 --> 0:46:04.960 you know, it's when or you ask, there's there's no 0:46:05.760 --> 0:46:08.080 in between. Like certain fan base are like, oh you 0:46:08.160 --> 0:46:10.760 tried hard. You know what I'm saying. They're like whenter 0:46:10.880 --> 0:46:13.440 you suck. So when I went there knowing that, so 0:46:13.520 --> 0:46:17.440 it wasn't as bad as like for me for some people, 0:46:18.080 --> 0:46:20.240 I was mad at you man, We're not going to Dallas. 0:46:20.320 --> 0:46:22.680 I said, gotta go to Dallas because you just had 0:46:22.719 --> 0:46:26.879 a phenomenal Yeah, you just showed. I'm like, he know them, Yeah, 0:46:27.160 --> 0:46:30.719 he just killed there. He gotta go back there and 0:46:30.840 --> 0:46:33.560 when you went to l A. I said, you gotta 0:46:33.640 --> 0:46:36.200 go to Dallas. You said it on here too, I said, 0:46:36.200 --> 0:46:37.719 he supposed to go to Dallas. 0:46:37.560 --> 0:46:41.440 NA hindsight, Yeah, I mean obviously with the finals run 0:46:41.560 --> 0:46:43.920 and and the back here this year and all that stuff, 0:46:44.040 --> 0:46:46.600 like for sure would have been great. 0:46:46.640 --> 0:46:51.239 And it's hard to turn down l A B. Yeah, 0:46:51.800 --> 0:46:54.280 you know you from there and like all that stuff. 0:46:54.400 --> 0:46:57.239 Like it's and like I said, at the time, both 0:46:57.320 --> 0:47:01.160 teams were kind of in like the middle, lower end, 0:47:01.520 --> 0:47:03.880 lower end of the playoff race of the Western Conference, 0:47:04.000 --> 0:47:05.200 like nobody knew. 0:47:05.440 --> 0:47:06.160 I think they went like. 0:47:07.000 --> 0:47:12.200 Eighteen and two at one point, like nobody they when 0:47:12.239 --> 0:47:14.839 the when the switch clicked or how do you want 0:47:14.840 --> 0:47:17.520 to say it, like that took off, you know what 0:47:17.560 --> 0:47:17.959 I'm saying. 0:47:18.040 --> 0:47:22.440 So I don't regret it. But obviously, like you know, 0:47:22.600 --> 0:47:24.520 who wouldn't want to go to the finals. That's after 0:47:24.600 --> 0:47:27.160 already being at the conference finals. So you know, it 0:47:27.320 --> 0:47:27.800 is what it is. 0:47:29.080 --> 0:47:32.960 It's definitely I gotta ask, man, some of the practice 0:47:33.000 --> 0:47:35.000 you've probably seen. You got two of the most skilled 0:47:35.000 --> 0:47:37.000 basketball players ever between Luke and Kyrie. What's it like 0:47:37.080 --> 0:47:38.759 just to see them up close? Every Obviously we know 0:47:38.800 --> 0:47:41.000 you cold, but just to see them like just hoop 0:47:41.040 --> 0:47:43.160 on the consistent basis. What's this is the like motivating 0:47:43.160 --> 0:47:45.600 does everybody buy inteck? You see like everybody teams is like, 0:47:45.760 --> 0:47:47.600 I really fuck with basketball, bro, you don't see that? 0:47:48.360 --> 0:47:48.680 I think? 0:47:48.840 --> 0:47:52.879 Uh, I think the difference with like Kyrie and any 0:47:52.960 --> 0:47:57.319 other like player that I've been around, Like the again 0:47:57.440 --> 0:47:59.600 made pause if needed, but like the way he moves 0:47:59.719 --> 0:48:02.680 is like it's like artistic in a sense, you know 0:48:02.680 --> 0:48:06.240 what I'm saying. So it's just it's a very different 0:48:07.480 --> 0:48:11.040 like eye test, right, Like some people are explosive, some 0:48:11.120 --> 0:48:13.439 people are you know this or that dominant can shoot 0:48:13.480 --> 0:48:15.480 it well whatever, Like been around a lot of greats, 0:48:15.520 --> 0:48:18.480 like even the Kd's Lucas bron even like. 0:48:19.680 --> 0:48:24.560 It's just the way he does it is more appealing 0:48:24.680 --> 0:48:29.400 to look at, if that makes sense. Yeah, Lucas is dominant. 0:48:29.480 --> 0:48:31.680 Like you know, he can run off ten threes, he 0:48:31.719 --> 0:48:34.000 can post you up, he can get to the Dirk 0:48:34.040 --> 0:48:36.600 fade in the MIDI he got everything, and then his 0:48:36.760 --> 0:48:40.720 passing is sensational two. So you know, I mean there's 0:48:40.840 --> 0:48:43.520 nothing you can't say about about ill, right, but I 0:48:43.680 --> 0:48:46.320 just think like the eye test from just like a 0:48:47.360 --> 0:48:51.560 like how it looks. Probably him and Paul George probably 0:48:51.560 --> 0:48:53.680 got the most appealing games to look at. 0:48:56.640 --> 0:48:57.399 No, Paul George. 0:48:57.920 --> 0:48:59.680 You talk about audiosters, they always say who I want 0:48:59.719 --> 0:49:01.359 to play like Paul George. 0:49:01.120 --> 0:49:02.799 When I played, Like when I used to watch him 0:49:02.800 --> 0:49:04.840 in practice when we played in Indiana, I used to 0:49:04.880 --> 0:49:05.279 just be like. 0:49:06.760 --> 0:49:10.799 He cold. Yeah, you said, I like Cold Bro. That's 0:49:11.120 --> 0:49:12.279 crossover snash back bro. 0:49:13.680 --> 0:49:15.759 Only game I seen that was better than him, And 0:49:15.880 --> 0:49:19.680 practice was there, like when you seen d Rose, it 0:49:19.880 --> 0:49:23.960 was just like, man, what the hell is something right? 0:49:24.480 --> 0:49:27.120 How are you moving this fade? And Toya you Din 0:49:27.239 --> 0:49:30.040 did it? People saying you're sad you didn't fell and 0:49:30.160 --> 0:49:34.280 you still just doing ship. That's unbelievable. But I couldn't 0:49:34.280 --> 0:49:37.360 imagine Kyrie, you know, guard him. At one point in 0:49:37.440 --> 0:49:39.040 my career, I guarded Kyrie more than. 0:49:38.960 --> 0:49:42.280 Anybody in NBA. Really, that's a fact, fact, which is crazy. 0:49:42.400 --> 0:49:45.120 And I have I guarded more than anybody else. 0:49:45.160 --> 0:49:48.840 So I've experienced them as an islands yea, And like 0:49:48.960 --> 0:49:51.239 his shot making ability was always the thing for me. 0:49:51.640 --> 0:49:54.040 Like I remember one game we played Indiana, I guarded. 0:49:54.239 --> 0:49:56.360 I literally guarded for eighteen seconds. I remember watching the 0:49:56.400 --> 0:49:58.840 clip when I came back and I was guarding my 0:49:58.880 --> 0:50:01.839 ass off. And to know, Kyrie, he can go left 0:50:01.840 --> 0:50:03.759 and do all that shit, but he prefers to go 0:50:03.920 --> 0:50:07.439 right right, that's his preferred hand. He can go left, 0:50:07.560 --> 0:50:09.440 we know that. But I was forcing him left and 0:50:09.480 --> 0:50:11.080 I was on this ship and somebody got back to 0:50:11.160 --> 0:50:13.839 that right anyway, and he had a fallout fade away. 0:50:14.840 --> 0:50:16.160 Nobody helped me, mind you. 0:50:16.520 --> 0:50:18.080 He went from the left side of the court all 0:50:18.080 --> 0:50:19.560 the way to the right side of course, shot of 0:50:19.600 --> 0:50:20.320 fade away. 0:50:20.320 --> 0:50:21.879 And hit it. I never got any help. 0:50:23.520 --> 0:50:25.800 After the game, I watched the clip and I was 0:50:25.920 --> 0:50:28.880 just like, what the fuck am I supposed to do? 0:50:30.520 --> 0:50:32.880 And mind you, that game he had thirty seven points, 0:50:34.560 --> 0:50:37.040 but all his shots were just like in my face, 0:50:38.000 --> 0:50:40.279 and I was like, I can't guard no better, so 0:50:40.360 --> 0:50:41.360 I might alas just stopped. 0:50:43.520 --> 0:50:46.799 I'm not lying, bro yo, what the are you doing 0:50:47.200 --> 0:50:51.120 on the stack? We on our shore. He just serve 0:50:51.360 --> 0:50:53.080 he gave me, he did. 0:50:53.200 --> 0:50:55.560 I'm not gonna lie. I guard him the most like ship. 0:50:55.600 --> 0:50:56.719 He was averaging twenty eight. 0:50:57.320 --> 0:50:58.759 Oh yeah, so he had. He had a lot many 0:50:58.800 --> 0:51:00.200 times he get forwarded up. 0:51:03.880 --> 0:51:06.759 Okay, damn, hold on. 0:51:07.680 --> 0:51:11.399 That's when he first went to Brooklyn. I know that game. Yeah, 0:51:11.760 --> 0:51:16.800 I wouldn't clip. Yeah, we fail to try to made it. 0:51:17.160 --> 0:51:19.719 I don't know what he got against me. I don't 0:51:19.719 --> 0:51:20.880 know why he was like that on me. 0:51:21.000 --> 0:51:23.120 Bro so thirst to be an into athlete. 0:51:23.440 --> 0:51:28.839 You know what we're gonna go through. I don't think 0:51:28.880 --> 0:51:39.480 Kyrie today, I'm not. He's never had twenty time. Yeah, 0:51:39.520 --> 0:51:44.160 I like him up play. That's a d NV put 0:51:44.200 --> 0:51:49.400 that he had twenty every year. Every them putting the 0:51:49.480 --> 0:51:52.960 zero point on you was crazy. We had twenty four 0:51:53.080 --> 0:51:54.480 every day. I think you can't even guard me on 0:51:54.560 --> 0:51:58.400 the bitch. Yeah. I locked him up. That guy. 0:51:58.400 --> 0:52:01.400 I remember he's a rookie. After the down said you're 0:52:01.400 --> 0:52:03.919 gonna be lo let me. I tell her, you're gonna 0:52:03.920 --> 0:52:04.439 be a good player. 0:52:04.560 --> 0:52:09.759 Kid. You're like I did, He's gonna be We beat 0:52:09.840 --> 0:52:10.279 the ship out. 0:52:10.440 --> 0:52:13.239 We probably beat him by thirty, so I'm like, you're 0:52:13.239 --> 0:52:14.920 gonna be He knew he was on real then, but 0:52:15.000 --> 0:52:16.640 I called you Yeah, oh god, he did. 0:52:17.640 --> 0:52:18.360 We got a conversation. 0:52:18.440 --> 0:52:20.480 I said, he's gonna be the best. He's one of 0:52:20.520 --> 0:52:23.520 the hardest players I regard play. Yeah, but I said're 0:52:23.520 --> 0:52:26.279 gonna be good, kid, Keep working next thing. You know, 0:52:26.360 --> 0:52:33.680 he ain't scoring twenty You your memory is amazing, bro story. 0:52:34.400 --> 0:52:39.880 I don't know appreciate that what I do, Mike, I 0:52:39.880 --> 0:52:42.880 didn't play a lot. We're going them out only fourteen. 0:52:43.760 --> 0:52:45.440 I didn't play how many minutes? How many minutes? 0:52:48.040 --> 0:52:51.239 That's what I didn't get the fourth quarter? 0:52:51.960 --> 0:52:52.680 Let's half a game. 0:52:55.160 --> 0:52:57.520 What game was that he had to be with Lebron? Yeah? 0:52:57.560 --> 0:53:03.719 Yeah, it was a toy many motherfucker playing forty four minutes? 0:53:03.760 --> 0:53:05.960 That's the whole game, y'all say, boy, you did not 0:53:06.040 --> 0:53:08.600 slept at all? You playing for team niggas. I don't 0:53:08.600 --> 0:53:10.319 know what game that was because I never played forty 0:53:10.320 --> 0:53:13.160 four He and a good night, he shopping more than me. 0:53:14.040 --> 0:53:15.560 Clearly, did I ever have a good game? 0:53:16.520 --> 0:53:22.200 I have a good game against Okay, okay, let's like talk, okay, 0:53:22.360 --> 0:53:23.640 cool in a game winner. 0:53:23.680 --> 0:53:25.239 A matter of fact, I hit the game winner now 0:53:25.560 --> 0:53:30.640 on Trusty, Yeah it is okay cool. What's the actually 0:53:30.680 --> 0:53:33.279 what's your high? Forty? I would say? Yeah? 0:53:33.320 --> 0:53:33.960 He who? 0:53:35.040 --> 0:53:38.600 Uh the spurs? John say and d White? Wow, pull 0:53:38.640 --> 0:53:42.239 it up? What the fuck? What year was that? Old on? 0:53:42.480 --> 0:53:46.239 Load up the drake? You gave us thirty six? Where 0:53:46.360 --> 0:53:46.880 was I at. 0:53:48.560 --> 0:53:51.760 I am, so you gave forty de John say, yeah. 0:53:51.560 --> 0:53:53.640 That's that's a tough g. What do you on the 0:53:53.680 --> 0:53:59.120 Spurs because the white wi my guy? Yeah, Colorado okay, 0:53:59.320 --> 0:54:02.000 but getting what are you on the Spurs? It's crazy. 0:54:04.560 --> 0:54:05.960 That I just went to rock too. 0:54:07.080 --> 0:54:08.799 Oh. I mean we weren't together, you know what I'm saying. 0:54:08.840 --> 0:54:11.719 But that's that crazy. Sure, the type of players are, 0:54:12.160 --> 0:54:15.560 that's crazy. But I can believe he gave us thirty six. 0:54:15.800 --> 0:54:16.759 I remember a couple of games. 0:54:16.760 --> 0:54:18.560 You had really good games on us, and I just 0:54:18.680 --> 0:54:23.520 used to laugh because I just remember Kenny, Oh Ship, Yeah, 0:54:23.520 --> 0:54:24.239 I can't give a fuck. 0:54:25.040 --> 0:54:28.640 Was I playing? Oh it was dark? Was your first 0:54:28.719 --> 0:54:33.960 year nineteen? No? He was? I was? That was that 0:54:34.120 --> 0:54:36.400 before that zero overturn? Yeah? I was out there. I 0:54:36.520 --> 0:54:41.160 probably was like killing probably killing the ball go crazy. 0:54:42.520 --> 0:54:45.680 Yeah, he had a game. Boy, that's a good game. 0:54:45.920 --> 0:54:52.120 That's yeah, Ship, Yeah, six eight and five up. Ship, 0:54:52.440 --> 0:54:53.399 shout out to my boy. 0:54:53.480 --> 0:54:58.080 Matter of fact, brot the clips when YouTube that could 0:54:58.080 --> 0:54:58.799 get help for real? 0:54:58.920 --> 0:55:01.640 Make sure I was just no, no, no, just do 0:55:01.760 --> 0:55:03.400 a Kyrie compilation for. 0:55:05.480 --> 0:55:16.399 Feature and Spence sold on. Give me forty I got you. Hey, listen, 0:55:16.719 --> 0:55:18.920 go ahead and kick off man. I appreciate that. I 0:55:19.160 --> 0:55:19.840 take it for. 0:55:21.719 --> 0:55:26.040 Thirty six spence forty Kyrie Nah's I never saw the 0:55:26.120 --> 0:55:28.600 defensive player. I never want to boys that we go 0:55:29.080 --> 0:55:33.680 make clip up the other flacker Foles, I don't know. 0:55:33.800 --> 0:55:35.640 While I thought he was small though, I didn't know 0:55:35.719 --> 0:55:36.399 he was six. 0:55:36.520 --> 0:55:36.600 Bro. 0:55:37.800 --> 0:55:41.080 This was hen he got on some fans guitar for real? 0:55:42.520 --> 0:55:49.200 This is really yeah, I'm six now listen. 0:55:49.280 --> 0:55:51.360 We started off this episode talking about how you saving 0:55:51.400 --> 0:55:53.239 my opposite. You know you're financially intelligent, but when you 0:55:53.280 --> 0:55:55.120 first got the bag, you was real comfortable with what 0:55:55.280 --> 0:55:56.160 was a crazy purchase. 0:55:58.520 --> 0:56:00.160 Well wait till the end of my rookie year and 0:56:00.280 --> 0:56:03.279 I got a tested Okay, so I was at the 0:56:03.920 --> 0:56:05.560 very end basically going into my second year. 0:56:06.200 --> 0:56:09.960 That was it other than that you keep it simm Yeah. 0:56:09.960 --> 0:56:12.120 I mean, bro, I didn't have no money. I had 0:56:12.160 --> 0:56:14.239 no money for real. Were you living in l a 0:56:14.280 --> 0:56:16.600 St Or Yeah, But like. 0:56:18.280 --> 0:56:20.439 My first year, I went back to my parents' house 0:56:21.000 --> 0:56:23.920 second year, and like actually I went back to my 0:56:23.960 --> 0:56:26.719 parents second year. In my third year, I think I 0:56:26.800 --> 0:56:29.040 had like one of the apartments in Beverly Hills, but 0:56:29.680 --> 0:56:31.440 it wasn't like one of them crazy pouses. 0:56:31.480 --> 0:56:33.520 It wasn't none of that. It was like real regular. 0:56:33.680 --> 0:56:38.200 I moved with my parents myfe year. You moved in 0:56:38.320 --> 0:56:40.520 and moved out, well, moved in with oh, but you 0:56:40.600 --> 0:56:43.600 went back here though, right moved right on. It was 0:56:43.640 --> 0:56:45.800 a different. Yeah, that's a different that's a different situation. 0:56:45.880 --> 0:56:47.960 He's trying to have. He's still trying to live like 0:56:48.080 --> 0:56:50.640 Michael or you can tell him, why. 0:56:52.920 --> 0:57:01.200 Did you took my house? Basically when I moved back, Oh, 0:57:01.640 --> 0:57:02.640 they read out their house. 0:57:03.040 --> 0:57:04.960 Yeah, I was a guessing my home and they literally 0:57:04.960 --> 0:57:08.000 took up my bedroom and they like I came in 0:57:08.080 --> 0:57:08.680 there with my teeth. 0:57:08.760 --> 0:57:11.920 Everything was different. My bed was in the basement. I 0:57:12.080 --> 0:57:14.200 just I worked it out for the year. How was 0:57:14.239 --> 0:57:15.879 that living at home with your parents? Though? 0:57:15.960 --> 0:57:19.040 Bro in the league, did you have to come in 0:57:19.080 --> 0:57:21.080 the house before a certain time? 0:57:21.320 --> 0:57:23.080 I ain't gonna lie to you at that time, because 0:57:23.080 --> 0:57:25.160 you remember, like what twenty one something like that, something 0:57:25.320 --> 0:57:28.560 like oh, they're like, hey, could you know check in? 0:57:30.560 --> 0:57:30.720 Yeah? 0:57:30.800 --> 0:57:32.200 No, they were like that because my parents are like 0:57:32.440 --> 0:57:34.800 old school stacks, yeah that stuff. 0:57:34.880 --> 0:57:38.560 So they were saying all that, and yeah, I would 0:57:38.560 --> 0:57:41.600 have went right back to Detroit. I remember. 0:57:41.680 --> 0:57:44.040 I came and stayed in my house my rookie year, 0:57:44.080 --> 0:57:45.960 my mom and dad house. I came home for my 0:57:46.000 --> 0:57:49.040 birthday weekend. I came home at four. My mom was 0:57:49.120 --> 0:57:53.400 like whoa, Like, we're not doing that, na. 0:57:53.520 --> 0:57:57.720 I said, I'm going back because I'm doing that. You 0:57:57.800 --> 0:58:01.240 don't know my life living in Atlanta start tow. Yeah 0:58:01.800 --> 0:58:04.920 you had it broke. Yeah, I'm Detroit, Bro. I mean 0:58:05.000 --> 0:58:08.680 Detroit because you're thinking Detroit Detroit. I was out in 0:58:08.800 --> 0:58:09.439 Auburn Hills. 0:58:09.480 --> 0:58:11.920 Who was different at the Auburn House? Yeah, that was 0:58:12.280 --> 0:58:13.960 well what we used to be at Birmingham. 0:58:14.280 --> 0:58:17.960 Yeah, it was. It was just like nerdy man drive bro. Yeah, okay, respect, 0:58:18.360 --> 0:58:18.720 I just I. 0:58:18.680 --> 0:58:20.640 Don't know, just you be in the league and your 0:58:20.720 --> 0:58:22.560 daddy saying, hey, my nigga, you wild. 0:58:22.680 --> 0:58:26.680 Like they kept it cool though. I mean it was subtle. 0:58:26.760 --> 0:58:28.440 It wasn't like nah, you can't do It was like, 0:58:29.560 --> 0:58:32.480 you know, like taping and you chill like let us know. 0:58:32.600 --> 0:58:34.360 And I was just for his parents. Yeah. 0:58:36.440 --> 0:58:39.439 Plus, like I said, Bro, I was broke. I didn't 0:58:39.440 --> 0:58:41.320 even get the first round like million. No, it was 0:58:41.400 --> 0:58:45.040 like five hundred thousand, bro. So like after taxis two 0:58:45.160 --> 0:58:48.360 fifty after you spend your monthly. You got maybe one 0:58:48.440 --> 0:58:51.560 hundred grand, like fifty grand somebody whatever. It was like, Bro, 0:58:51.880 --> 0:58:53.560 you're not in a rush to be like, oh, I'm 0:58:53.560 --> 0:58:56.800 gonna spend five six thousand on the apartment for a 0:58:56.880 --> 0:58:59.680 couple of months and that hunting turn into eighty. 0:59:00.120 --> 0:59:04.080 But when you got that that bag from Brooklyn, everybody 0:59:04.120 --> 0:59:14.120 gets sunk. I mean I like watches. Yeah, turn to 0:59:14.200 --> 0:59:17.120 look for me, because that's what these niggers do. I got. 0:59:17.280 --> 0:59:18.720 I got a couple of things like I got, like 0:59:18.840 --> 0:59:21.880 the the Panther and the Spider Man, like the aps. 0:59:23.120 --> 0:59:25.200 Look at him, look at him? He a watch. Guy. 0:59:25.680 --> 0:59:27.000 I ain't ever bought nothing. 0:59:27.560 --> 0:59:31.439 Oh really, I bought house. He did, That's all I didn't. 0:59:31.480 --> 0:59:33.280 I didn't buy my my crib in l A to 0:59:33.960 --> 0:59:35.680 to my second deal. That's when I got that one. 0:59:37.040 --> 0:59:41.560 No, you did it smart. I housed up immediately. I 0:59:41.680 --> 0:59:44.640 was ready to be a m P. It was worth it. 0:59:44.840 --> 0:59:46.800 I was. I was already having going. 0:59:47.040 --> 0:59:47.280 I was. 0:59:48.880 --> 0:59:52.960 The house. I was to get the content, bro, before 0:59:53.000 --> 0:59:56.400 the facts. Fact. I was like, I was ready the 0:59:56.480 --> 0:59:59.320 party going crazy. Yeah, I was lit. 1:00:00.160 --> 1:00:02.800 But that ain't about nothing. I still they brought none. 1:00:02.840 --> 1:00:03.880 I still need to buy a watch. 1:00:05.840 --> 1:00:09.400 You gotta do that. Yeah, I'm free. I haven't bought 1:00:09.440 --> 1:00:11.000 a watch. I'm surprised by that. 1:00:11.240 --> 1:00:13.360 Yeah, I gotta do something. You got coppy roll off 1:00:13.400 --> 1:00:19.040 the straps, for sure. They do my wife's my wife's 1:00:19.680 --> 1:00:24.440 wedding ring. They might like me frost enough for sure. Listen, man, 1:00:24.520 --> 1:00:25.640 we know you got plenty of things to do. 1:00:25.760 --> 1:00:27.840 Man, we appreciate you, sliding man telling people that can 1:00:27.880 --> 1:00:29.640 grab the kicksad Man to support baby. 1:00:30.600 --> 1:00:33.720 I think it's three sixty one thinks. 1:00:34.600 --> 1:00:37.120 Wee U not Hong Kong. 1:00:39.680 --> 1:00:42.600 Listen, they're the best part has ever if I just 1:00:42.640 --> 1:00:45.120 don't know the exact website because it's like three different websites. 1:00:45.400 --> 1:00:47.640 Watch that's what I'm saying. 1:00:48.000 --> 1:00:50.760 Got three different websites. Dot come and shout out the 1:00:50.800 --> 1:00:54.600 spence Man. We spent a great time, man, I ain't 1:00:54.600 --> 1:00:55.200 gonna lie now. 1:00:55.240 --> 1:00:57.439 We put them on it. We're gonna need our shoes. 1:00:57.360 --> 1:01:00.120 Yeah I got because we're gonna treat you like the 1:01:00.880 --> 1:01:03.120 three Big Company bro lamar balling them. 1:01:03.120 --> 1:01:05.600 We're gonna treat you like them. Shoes goa come. We 1:01:05.680 --> 1:01:09.440 definitely gonna shout it out triple. It's efficiently right there, bro. 1:01:09.520 --> 1:01:17.320 It's not even in my control. Well, talk about people, y'all. 1:01:17.400 --> 1:01:22.600 To niggas say talking about people, y'all, I'm talking about 1:01:22.640 --> 1:01:25.120 what okay, okay, yeah, like a. 1:01:26.600 --> 1:01:34.360 Mission in the club, y'all. Like for sure, man, thank you, 1:01:34.480 --> 1:01:35.160 don't appreciate. 1:01:35.840 --> 1:01:38.120 We'll be out next time, like share scrap that good 1:01:38.160 --> 1:01:38.920 stuff will be back. 1:01:38.960 --> 1:01:39.800 Club five twenty 1:01:41.480 --> 1:01:42.120 The volume