2025-11-17- KSR - Hour 2

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Speaker 3: Welcome to Hour two of Kentucky Sports Radio presented by Stockton Mortgage. Now here's Matt Jones.

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Speaker 4: Welcome back I number two Tucky Sports Radio. It is if I'm nine two eight oh twenty two eighty seven here at uh in Orchard Park. You the text machine is seven seven two seven seven four five two five four. A lot of people still saying nice things about you, Billy. One person says, you know, tell Billy I feel bad for him. I got the same treatment when I carried a plastic suitcase once. I know how it feels. Now. Granted that was a middle school trip in the nineteen nineties, but I still get it.

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Speaker 3: Don't feel bad for me. I've got the best job in the world and this was a fun trip.

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Speaker 4: It's the attitude that is a good attitude. I wish Shannon had that attitude more. You have the best job in the world.

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Speaker 3: Wait till Billy's been in this thing for twenty one years, it'll change.

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Speaker 4: Has it changed for Drew? Drew's always looks forward to these trips.

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Speaker 5: He's actually probably my favorite.

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Speaker 3: This's been a lot insince g really yeah, I.

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Speaker 4: Mean shorter to say that, yeah, but it's been a lot fun. I mean we've packed a lot into forty eight hours. Yeah, you know, I mean we go home.

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Speaker 5: Today and we'll be back home. You go home today. I haven't committed to that.

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Speaker 4: Oh you're gonna stay here here. Well, let's let's talk about being in Buffalo for a second, because you you know, we not only did the stuff, we went to the game. First of all, I've been to two NFL games this year. They've both been two of the best games of the season. I mean I was at Bears Bengals that was amazing. Then last night was amazing. Buffalo Tampa Bay, back and forth, back and forth, forty four thirty two a score at Gommi Josh Allen Baker Mayfield. It was excellent. It was a lot of fun, cold, but an exciting crown. I mean, that's that was a great That was a great environment, great time.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you know how to pick your NFL games, and I know two for two. It was just a few weeks ago on cover zero was talking about how it would be a bucket list to go see the Bills, not knowing that would happen just a few weeks later. So just being here and getting a taste of how that fan base is was incredible. They did not disappoint. I had the highest bar for them, and they jumped right over it.

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Speaker 3: Drew was really in his element during the tail I wish you could have been there with us. I'm sure it came through on the videos, but just like going from Tequila Shot to Buffalo Wing and making these videos, it was a lot of.

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Speaker 4: Yes, I was doing ESPN, so I couldn't walk around the tailgates, but you could just I mean, I could just since all day. That's one of the happier times I've seen Drew was that whole environment. I mean, I was trying to think there. I'm sure there have been other experiences like that, but like he just you just seemed like you were more sort of happy and thrilled in this Buffalo Bill's place than most anyone.

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Speaker 5: I'm a tailgater, I don't get to tell gate much anymore, and then you're gonna send me to one of the best tailgates in the country. Yeah, I honestly wish I could have done more. The worst part of the whole thing is what most people would kill to do. When I was in that press box. The free food's nice, but it's snowing, and Bill's fans are going crazy, and it's silent in there, and I'm sitting next to billy dress shoes as the guys. I gotta get out there, and I went to the top row and you met somebody from Louisville.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Actually, this is an example. Bills fans not only do they just say, hey, come to our tailgate, eat our food. I mean you can walk up to any tailgate and they will give you a hug and just say eat our blue cheese. I'm just walking around. I think people noticed that I was lingering, and they're just like, hey, man, you want to sit down, And they just slid in and I just sit in their row. And then it turns out one of them is from Louisville. But they had a cool story. Their dad was moved here from Syria and learned football as in Buffalo, and then now they live in all parts of the country and they brought their grandkids and brought him back for another game. So they had like this whole family experience. And here I am sitting with them and cheering for the Bills. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Everybody here is like so nice. I mean in Kentucky people are nice too, Like I mean most people who come to Kentucky the first time, they're like, oh, they're nice. You know, you get this sort of stereotype though of people in New York and Buffalo is in New York and people are extremely They're just extremely nice. I mean people at the tailgates at the games, even the meat folks are nice. There were a couple of women at the bar last night in their mid to late fifties trying to take Mario home nice. Like there's like there's I mean that's a different kind of nice, but like there there's Uh, it's just a lot of fun.

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Speaker 5: I will say, though, after the game, once their booze has kicked in, some of them start to show their nuts. So nice.

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Speaker 4: What a couple people were just yelling at Billy about his shoes on our walk home. Yeah. Yeah, they were just yelling, where'd you get those shoes? Peacot guys in the trench coat.

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Speaker 5: It was like, man, someone yelled from a school bus about Billy's trench coat. We're just walking by in the dark. I can't believe they even.

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Speaker 4: So it's funny is they're not even Kazar listeners. People. There's something about your face that just makes people want to give you a hard time.

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Speaker 3: I'm all business, so I guess that's they didn't vibe with some people and Bill's mafia. But you know, Drew was in the press box and every time Buffalo have a big play, they'd start high five and Drew through the glass. Yeah, that's how out of place.

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Speaker 4: So let's talk about the wings for because everybody always wants to know about the wings when you come to Buffalo. So here's my take on the wings all right. So, like in Kentucky, what wings means depends on the type of place because people cook them differently. So like at Kspar we smoke them. There aren't a lot of places that smoke them in Kentucky. It makes it taste different. I love it. It's my favorite kind. But it's a longer process. So then you go like a place. Sometimes the other places I like that are good, like the Kentucky Wing King place you took me to over there in gray Line. They like deep fry, different kind of taste, also really good. So I like both of those. What's the place up in northern Kentucky we go that does the double thing Barley corns. Barley Corns by way, I think those for me are the three best wing places in Kentucky. You go us the Wing King Guy and Barley corns, but they're three different ways to cook it. What I've learned in Buffalo is when they say wings, there's only one way they're talking about. They're just talking about frying it once, but not the way we not breading it like we do like we do it like wing King does, just frying it. Remember we tried to do that at our little wing thing and we didn't We couldn't do it very well. It didn't turn out very good. So they don't even consider a different way. And it's everywhere tastes the same. But it's good because it's like everybody. It's almost like everybody in Buffalo gets taught there's only one way to make a wing, and this is the way you're gonna do it.

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Speaker 3: It's the opposite of Ryan Lemon. Consistent.

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Speaker 4: It's very consistent, but like if you come from Kentucky, you may not like it's it's not liking Likestad where there are so many different kind It's one thing. This is what a Buffalo wing is. And you can't ask Shannon for ranch. They don't have it. They just give you blue cheese. That's your only choice because they think that's the only thing you should eat it with.

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Speaker 3: As somebody that didn't like blue cheese. I loved the blue cheese that I have on this trip. So it converted me always Ran. I'm always a Ranch.

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Speaker 4: You won't get it here. They will not. They will give it to you, Yeah, they will not. This is so for them. Ordering wings is one thing, one condiment. There are no other choices, which I find kind of interesting.

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Speaker 5: And when we were tailgating, we spent so long looking for Pento Run, that famous fan. I mean, he's got his own Wikipedia page. Yeah, And I finally found him and I'm interviewing and in the interview I said Ranch. The man like his face changed and he gave me this look. I had to apologize. I panicked. I'm like, I knew better. I'm sorry, I'm a rookie.

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Speaker 4: It won't do it.

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Speaker 5: Like we don't say Ranch, they won't do.

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Speaker 4: And I had at least a couple of wings in like four different locations, and they were all exactly the same, and they were all very good.

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Speaker 5: We ate wings that were fried in a World War two helmet at run pental Run's tailgate.

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Speaker 4: That's really strange. I don't think that's what people thought they were doing in World War Two. It was gonna have their helmets with wings.

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Speaker 3: Well, we talked about this on covers Eero. There was a filing cabinet they grilled meat in the World War two helmet and wings like it was like anything butt grills and.

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Speaker 4: This and this stadium is in a neighborhood. And I don't mean that like theoretically. I mean it is in a neighborhood. There are just houses across the street. It's a two lane road, right, so getting in and out is brutal. But it's a two lane road. There's just like it's just in a neighborhood. That's weird. I can't think of any green bay'ss got that a little bit. But Green Bay also has like a convention center and it's got a shop, Like there's a lot of stuff around it in Buffalo. This is just a neighborhood and there's nothing around it except a handful of bars.

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Speaker 3: Yep, and everything worked out at the bar. You did the pregam show at right.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that was good. It's just I would say this, if you love football, you gotta come here. Once I thought that I would say the best NFL experience is Green Bay. But I kind of think, Drew, this might be better. I mean, green Bay's good. I've been to like eleven stadiums and green Bay would be second. But I kind of think this is first.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, since first for me, it's not even close. In fact, when we get home, Titans, we got to talk.

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Speaker 4: So are you dropping the time?

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Speaker 5: I'm too loyal. I'll never drop them. I don't have that personality trait to abandon them. But I will say I had more fun at this Bills game than any Titans game I've ever been to. And I've readen the mini and I've been to big ones. I've even went to Bills Titans Monday Night football in Nashville and yelled at Bills fans. So they gave me a football experience. I've never seen you. You're contemplating, truck. I'll never truly leave them, leave them, but I will. I am a Bills fan. Like if the Bills are playing the Chiefs, that used to be a neutral game for me. I will be cheering for the Bills in any game from moving forward.

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Speaker 3: Didn't they break up with you like they send you an email?

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Speaker 5: The Titans they break up with me. We're going through it a little bit they need. They got some things to figure out, but I'm too loyal to leave them. But I am a I have added the bills to my fandom.

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Speaker 4: I also would say it was cool to see all the Kentucky guys here. Right, you had Ray Davis, Maxwell, Harrison, d Walker. We talked to all of them after the game. Dion's a little quieter, but but Ray Davis and Maxwell Harriston couldn't have been nicer to us, right, I mean Dion was nice too, but Ray and Maxwell. Ray took a picture with us on the field. Maxwell and his family. His family was like, ks are like they were excited. That was neat to see all these Kentucky guys up here.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Going into the locker room was cool.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, what do you think of that?

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Speaker 3: Uh, you know when the guys put clothes.

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Speaker 4: On weird channing, it's weird. I'm not going to tell you. They open up the locker room and all these dudes are naked.

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Speaker 3: Like a heads up, like, hey, media is killing I.

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Speaker 4: Think they just I don't think. I don't know if people don't care what they're walking like, they're just naked. Like there's just that stuff everywhere, and I I don't need that. Like, we tried to talk to Ray Davis and he was naked, and I was like, Gray, you can put clothes on. We'll give you a minute, you know.

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Speaker 5: And I knew, like we've done NBA, NBA is the same way. I knew what we were going into because we've done.

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Speaker 4: It more naked than there's a lot more people. It's just naked everywhere and like a lot of body sizes, and.

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Speaker 5: You know, Billy obviously felt overdressed all day, but I felt overdressed in there. I thought about just.

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Speaker 4: Gowing on it. I thought it was a code. I thought I was gonna have to get. I wasn't eager because I mean, it's a it's a it's something.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, everybody was nice down in the locker room area, besides the Tampa Bay staffer that almost knocked ru over them.

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Speaker 4: But there weren't. But there weren't many media too for an NFL game. I felt like there were, well, I mean there were there are more media. UK like that UK U of L game had significantly more media than this NFL game. Really, oh yeah, significantly more media. So that was that that's kind of weird that there's not you know, there were there's just not that many people there. And in the locker room, you know, Josh Allen's just sitting there by himself. I felt like, well, I mean, maybe he needs a converse, Maybe you need somebody to talk to.

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Speaker 5: What network TV shows he knows.

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Speaker 4: We talked about this on Cover zero. I was also surprised that the postgame meal was not as good for buffal I mean, Buffalo is just beaten Tampa Bay on national television. You know you would think is that when they give the players a meal, Shannon, don't you think they'd give them something nice? Right? Mistake? Just on the way out the door, they just grab a Jersey mics up. But that's it till you get and only six inches. You don't even get a foot long.

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Speaker 3: To speak for yourself. I love Jersey Mikes.

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Speaker 5: I like Jersey Mikes. I was actually pretty jealous when I saw it.

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Speaker 4: I was like, do you think that would be the postgame meal for the Buffalo Bills. Yeah?

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Speaker 3: I don't know, Like I wouldn't know if they'd put steak and mashed potatoes out there and do the whole nine yards. They may just want to get home. Yeah, you need to grab and go everybody's trying to get to the house. They were excited though you said this on cover zero, but millionaires are getting a free sandwich.

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Speaker 4: People can be really rich, and if you give them something free, they're gonna be Every single person loves free stuff. I also love UK Federal credit. This was the first time I'd ever really gotten to listen to the full broadcast of a game. Shannon on this drive, I'm on their way too much.

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Speaker 3: Oh, y'all, we know, we know.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it is for all y'all, but I can see why people would want me not in their lives after they listen to that every because it's a lot.

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Speaker 3: It's every other break for four hours, five hours.

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Speaker 4: Would you like to do it before I read the would you like to do a quick impersonation of it? No? No, I'm good, you can do it. Go ahead, No, I won't give it to come on.

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Speaker 3: No, I'd rather you do a different accent like they've asked you to do.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, the excitement is all the young quarterback and the pieces around them.

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Speaker 4: I mean you can, I think you can convince people to get excited for a return to the regime, but I think it's gonna have to include Cutter Bowl. If it doesn't, then I think you're gonna have a very hard time selling another year of this to uh to a to a fan base.

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Speaker 3: And keep cutter than it is Stoops.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I mean no offense to Stoops. But that's just that's just true. Yeah, yeah, I don't think there's any.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's what all the excitement is. Even though the defense has been playing well, the team's playing well, Bowie flipping that switch has been the difference.

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Speaker 4: We heard this weekend Drew you and I that that some people, uh former players close to Stoops were frustrated with with ks R and really maybe me and you specifically saying that they think a lie of the negativity around UK football is our fault, which you know, we heard this during the Calperri regime, but there were actually names associated to it this time, which was disappointing because they were people that well we may or may not know, were people that we liked when they either when they played here or had a job here. You know, wait, where's your take? Like, like when you hear that, what do you what do you think?

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Speaker 5: I mean? Have I probably been too critolical sometimes? Sure? But really there's never any been though I don't really here lately that was about to say here, like my opinions come down to winning and losing, and they lost eleven straight games at home. I mean, I don't have much to say for you. When you've lost eleven straight home games and you go two calendar years out scoring more than two touchdowns, you are that's negative enough on your own. You don't need anything I could add to the situation that would make it worse.

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Speaker 4: I think it's very convenient in all levels of life to when things don't go well for you, say it's the media's fault, right, Like I don't have to name politicians that have done that, but like it's easy to go things aren't going my way, it has to be the media's fault. And I'm not saying the media can't play a role. I certainly think they can. But in sports, you know, in like politics, something can happen and you can spin it as a winner a loss, depending on how you word it. But in sports, you win or you lose, like there's a result. You know, there's a final result, and it would not matter what you and I said. Eleven straight home losses are eleven straight. I can't go on the radio and go, we actually won that game, you know, well, nobody gets us twelve times in a yeah, exactly, well, we'll see you next time. I mean, so, I genuinely think when you start doing that, nobody says it's the media's fault when things are going well, right, so nobody goes, you know, things are going really well, thank you media. You know, they end up taking credit for themselves. So I but I was disappointed because I think I we have had the reputation for the Stoops era of being like way too positive.

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Speaker 5: I've been getting killed.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I've gotten positive, gotten crushed for that for years, including during the end of cal of have people saying, well, why are you so positive about football and you're not about basketball? And now it just goes to show like there's nothing you can do because there this was like there's apparently a consistent theme amongst some guys of that of that Stoops era thinking that. And I'm not talking about the guys in Buffalo. They were They did not say that to us at all. As a matter of fact, they were the opposite. But I just, you know, I don't really know, like there's just nothing you can do about it. But I I hope that whatever happens in these last two games, we get to a definitive place where the fan base is like as close to unified as they can be. Does that make sense?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, definitely, also not I picked them to win six games and go to Bowl this year, so I've been pretty positive. It's almost like game's over. Did they win. I'm happy, I'm upset, and we can just start there. And that's usually my opinion.

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Speaker 4: This is two different teams. I mean, I'll know, think about the South Carolina game. I mean we got destroyed at South Carolina. I think if you play that game next week, Billy, we might beat him. We would probably would beat him. Yeah, So part of it is the team has just played exponentially better at the end of the season.

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Speaker 3: Dave Chappelle used to have a skit called when Keeping It Real Goes wrong and this is the price of you keeping it real. Sometimes it can rub people the wrong way.

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Speaker 5: I love that skin. I don't know you're going to go there.

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Speaker 4: I think there was just something about the way you said that. You kind of said that in like the widest way possible. Love that show When keeping it When Keeping It Real goes wrong.

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Speaker 3: Well, this weekend, you pack some nice luggage.

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Speaker 4: And then, by the way, someone did say here on the text machine, Mario would have to answer this. When Billy pulled out the vegetable trade, did Mario say, this is the widest trip I will have ever gone on. Is that what you said? It's okay if you did, It's okay if you did.

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Speaker 3: You went to Seattle with Max Stuffy.

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Speaker 4: It's true, that's true. I think you had a little more flavor though than that than those vegetables. Yeah, I mean, remember Max did disappear for twenty four hours after he met a woman in a bar. Well, never mind two eight oh twenty two eighty seven, Maximo Adams committed to what was it, North Carolina? Where'd he commit? Not Kentucky? He committed somewhere else. It's another recruit that Kentucky had recruited at some point in basketball? Was I right about North Carolina? North Caroline that Kentucky didn't get. Now, the three guys that they've been the top in on, they're still in on and have not committed, but none of them have committed. Are you at all getting worried that Mark Pope just cannot land these top guys? Yeah?

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Speaker 5: Worry all the way there yet? But I am like, all right, you do need to show us something because as good as Jasper and Malachi were and gets, those were a homegrow and you got a significant advantage there. He still needs to go out and prove I can get one of these stars to add to the team, because even though I think college basketball has completely changed and you don't need four of them, you need one of them one like that, especially these five star freshmen coming in and so far, I love Jasper Malachi, but I don't really count those for his recruiting because with the home hometown factor there.

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Speaker 4: I'm not worried. But he's got like two more chances, and then I get worried, like if he doesn't get Stokes, Holt or Collins, well I'm really working and gets one. It's like, Okay, you know, I don't think you're ever gonna see an era where people get five of them anymore, because I just don't think the money is there anymore for any team. But I think two is a reasonable request, and I can be talked to, well, Okay, you got to last year. They were Kentucky kids. You kind of had to get them. That's fine, But you know, all these other schools have one already for next year. Some of them have two and we just still don't have any. Now, if we close out and get them, I'm not gonna be worried, but I am a little worried. I'm surprised that's been as hard as it's been.

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Speaker 5: We've heard about them leading a lot, but you gotta close. That's exactly right. What good does it do to lead in the top two is great? But let's get a jersey on them.

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Speaker 4: And even the one you got last year A kay Lewis left, they ended up not coming here. So we'll see af' nine two twenty two eighty seven. We haven't taken a call yeut TJ.

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00:23:42
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Speaker 5: Oh, let's look, I have it right here from seven.

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Speaker 4: Seven starts at seven. They're gonna have the men's game on while the women's game is going, so you can actually watch both. In the immemorial. They're hoping to get a big crowd, one because it's their first game against a really good opponent, against power four opponent set and we're we have a good time. We have a top twenty five team. And second, they have one of the top recruits in America coming to visit. So you know, Kenny Brooks called into the postgame show. I thought did a really really good job calling into the postgame show and sort of asking people to come. He was great. You ought to listen to his interview. But hopefully people will go and pack the house and you'll be able to watch the Michigan State game while it is going on.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they deserve the support. Clara Strack has been phenomenal excited for this women's basketball team this year.

00:25:21
Speaker 4: And you're right.

00:25:21
Speaker 3: If you miss Kenny Brooks's interview in the post game, go back and listen.

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Speaker 4: He was really good that it was very cool.

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Speaker 5: I like that you all did that. You know, normally get the game recap, but to have an active coach of another sport on, yeah. I like that. They have some buffalo tips. But it's also a big game for them. And I saw that they're doing a blue out.

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Speaker 3: Wear blue.

00:25:38
Speaker 5: I mean, you should always wear blue.

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Speaker 4: Wear blue.

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Speaker 5: Really pushing it for that one.

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Speaker 4: So if you want to go to that game, make sure you do that and uh and get ready. And then of course the Kentucky game is a weird time tomorrow. It's at six point thirty. You know, normally we're the late game. Poor Michigan State, whoever they play, they're always the early game. Have they ever played in the late game.

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Speaker 5: I don't think so, I really don't.

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Speaker 4: It's like Kentucky Duke and Kansas whoever they when two of them play, that's the late game. Michigan State is always the early game.

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Speaker 3: And that's how should be. I think they're the odd man out in those programs.

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Speaker 4: But but who you're gonna replace him with? No, I mean, they're probably the best team to put in it, but like no one wants to see Michigan State play, they probably should be replaced by Yukon. If you wanted to make that the real Champions Classic at this point, would you do that? Wouldn't you make it Yukon? Yeah?

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Speaker 5: I mean the name Champions, not that we have a ton of them lately, but Yukon should be in the two.

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Speaker 4: Kentucky and Yukon. You got the I mean, right now, those are the four best programs of the last twenty years.

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Speaker 5: And then when it goes to New York, I mean it already.

00:26:41
Speaker 4: Goes to New York. That'd be the hardest ticket in the world. If you went to New York. We're a five and a half point favorite. Does that surprise you a little bit?

00:26:49
Speaker 5: They got a good win already over is it? Arkansas? I thought this would be one of those one and a half two and a half type spreads five and a half kind of Ope, mys.

00:26:58
Speaker 4: A little bit.

00:26:58
Speaker 5: I was excited to to bet, thinking a big bounce back. That's college basketball. At a game like that, that's a little too many points. That's too many points for me.

00:27:05
Speaker 3: In the past, Kentucky could lose this game and you could chalk it up to being really early in the year. But after that lost to Louisville, it's it's just changed my whole perception of what happens with this game and what happens with the rest of the sea.

00:27:18
Speaker 4: Jalen low all Right, so yes or no? Do we think Jalen Lowe plays again this year? This is a gas so like nobody gets held to the fire for it. But yes or no, I'm.

00:27:28
Speaker 3: Gonna say yes, Shannon plays again this year? Absolutely, Yes, Okay, yeah.

00:27:34
Speaker 5: I'll be different say no. But I genuinely don't know anything. It's a complete guess.

00:27:37
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm gonna say no, and that's that's a case. Then No, I don't know anything. I really don't. I would tell you if I did. I mean, the the whispers are leaning no, but I'm not sure if the whispers know anything. I actually think it's probably gonna be decided today or tomorrow. I don't know when we'll find out, but I think it'll probably be decided today. I mean, it's what makes it hard is it's not a medical I mean, it's a medical decision, but it's really more of a personal decision. Do you want to do this all year and kind of maybe deal with paying, go back and forth, back and forth, get it hurt again, potentially get it hurt where you have to have a real surgery, or do you just want to wait, do the surgery and be one hundred percent you know Lamont Butler. They went through this with Lamont and he played and then he had to have the surgery in the off season and it hurt his NBA chances. Now Jalen's not probably going to the NBA at the end of the year.

00:28:34
Speaker 5: He doesn't have the urgency.

00:28:35
Speaker 4: That's some other so he doesn't have the urgency Lamon did, but he could get.

00:28:40
Speaker 5: Another NIO year.

00:28:41
Speaker 3: That's that's my thing. Pope mentioned they got to meet with the family and the agents when talking about it.

00:28:45
Speaker 4: It was weird, he said, agents, he said them before the medical profession. I mean, it has certainly never been the case that I've heard a coach say in deciding the future of a player via injury, we have to talk to the agents now he's probably I mean, he's be again being honest, But Drew, you don't hear that a lot.

00:29:06
Speaker 5: No, the order of which he named the process is very telling of the current state of basketball. That it's agent's then doctor. I know it's just how he said it, but they do have to consider that. And it being so early in the year, you know it's going through his head. I could fix this now and I will be ready to go next year. The eligibility to be worked out. But if I push it and say I hit it in February, what's my summer look like? Then what's the next season look like? I mean, really has to consider just doing you're.

00:29:31
Speaker 4: Seeing there, asking are you gonna sign up for four or five months of pain? You know, like you roll over wrong in bad owl? No, seriously, Like again, ask somebody who's had it, or ask somebody who's had back pain that sort of at any moment you can get this jolt of pain is not something fun to live with. And then if you're gonna have to have the surgery at some point anyway, you can see the mindset now selfishly though, we need him and we can be really good with him.

00:30:08
Speaker 5: And so that's hard, and you know, we don't know him at all. He might have that attitude like I love this these teammates, I want to be a part of this year. Or you might have the attitude if I've got to look out for me and if I have to step away in January, that could cost me a whole year of eligibil But I had my year.

00:30:24
Speaker 4: Lamont Butler had no more eligibility. So it's like if Lamont doesn't do this, his college career is over. So it's it's different with Lamont Butler than it is with Jaywen Love.

00:30:34
Speaker 3: No pay, no glory. These guys are really they're highly highly competitive people. That's why Trent No is lying to the medical staff trying to get back into the game. I mean, these guys want to play and represent Kentucky. So that's something like mentally that takes a toll on you too, if you're going to miss the rest of the season.

00:30:52
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's tough. We need him though, I mean I said I said at the in the summer, he's the one guy we can't really afford to lose, and we might we might lose it.

00:31:05
Speaker 5: Just so ridiculous the injuries situation, and I don't believe. I know if people wanting to throw the trainer out, but it seems just like Fluke injuries, all of them.

00:31:13
Speaker 4: What do you make of the of Pope saying that he basically screwed up, that he has not the team, he has not gotten the team to where he thinks they should be yet, and that he blames himself.

00:31:28
Speaker 5: I thought his last three speaking appearances were very wacky, but I did like that he was open, like, hey, I'm a little behind of where I want to be. He's like evaluating himself. You know, a lot of people will just lie to you, sugarco you tell it's beautiful. He's like, I'm a little behind where I want to be. And I like, as our fan base that wants to know everything that he's admitting in that now there's part of us like, all right, we'll fix it. But I'd rather him say I'm behind and I'm mad at myself, visit here and try to sell me something that he doesn't have a you know, under control yet.

00:31:55
Speaker 4: I agree with that. I agree with all that. I'm surprised though, because we heard none of this before the Louisville It's true, like before the Louisville game. We just kept hearing how good we were, that we had a chance to be special, that we I mean, like, it's it's odd that one loss. This part of why I shouldn't like, I'm even more fascinated about what happened in that locker room, because like even his tone, everything about him has has has been different since that locker room. And I just and then you can't if you're just a human being, you're gonna be curious what happened in that locker room.

00:32:31
Speaker 3: And again I don't know what happened, but that lends to the credence of maybe Mark Pope was a little too amp for the game that led trickle down to the players. Maybe he was trying to take ownership of his mistakes but really couldn't be transparent and exactly what happened.

00:32:42
Speaker 5: But part of that job is having your team ready to go on the road and fight for each other and it's you against them, and then drop the ball on that one. I mean, you're gonna have to figure out how to get your team ready for a rivalry game.

00:32:53
Speaker 4: One person rides Matt, this is for Shannon. He needs to watch the new Ossy documentary on Paramount. He will love it.

00:33:00
Speaker 5: No, yeah, I would.

00:33:01
Speaker 3: I didn't know there was an Ozzy documentary, but I will go back and watch that.

00:33:05
Speaker 4: There you go. I didn't know that either. Another person says, Matt, what about John Caliperry's latest rant? It's one of the classic ones for him. I haven't heard what either.

00:33:16
Speaker 5: I know he had a close game recently, but I didn't know about any rants.

00:33:19
Speaker 4: I feel like he said I saw something from him.

00:33:23
Speaker 3: Can you guess it without seeing it?

00:33:27
Speaker 5: We haven't had time to practice defense.

00:33:29
Speaker 4: He probably said that the media doesn't know what they're talking about.

00:33:33
Speaker 3: Did you say this?

00:33:34
Speaker 4: Did you?

00:33:34
Speaker 5: Did you see what I did?

00:33:35
Speaker 4: Did you see what I did? Yeah? From Little Rock to Bentonville?

00:33:41
Speaker 5: No, I don't know what he said. I know they had they ended up winning, but they played one.

00:33:45
Speaker 4: That game was close though, against Sandford before that. Again, he likes to play those game teams again that are good in the in the from the Bad Car?

00:33:54
Speaker 3: Would you rather beat Saint John's or Arkansas?

00:33:55
Speaker 4: This year?

00:34:00
Speaker 5: I saw.

00:34:02
Speaker 4: And you want to win the SEC? Yeah, and Saint John's is really good, so I would say I don't. I mean, it's crazy for me to say this, but I don't have any animosity to Rick anymore. And I used to have the most animosity, and I just can't. I mean, they were playing Alabama the other day. I was rooting for him, you know, I was rooting for Rick. So I don't know, Like, I can't think of a person I've ever flipped on. More like if you go back through my history of people that at a time I really didn't like, but then later I found myself liking. It's probably like George W. Bush and Rick Patino.

00:34:42
Speaker 5: What a duo.

00:34:43
Speaker 4: I mean, George Bush seems like he would be like it seems like a nice guy.

00:34:47
Speaker 3: So you like him now? Oh yeah, it's that the opposite with Trump. Did you ever like Trump?

00:34:52
Speaker 5: No, you'll get there, give it time.

00:34:54
Speaker 4: I don't know about that. I mean, that's one you'll come around. That's doubtful. I mean, I'm sure if i'm mad him, like, i'd be like nice in that moment. But no, But George B. Bush, Like, don't you think he'd be fun?

00:35:08
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, watch me hit this drive? Is all I needed to see that he could probably be a fun time.

00:35:12
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think he. I think he'd actually probably be a lot of fun, you know. Yeah. But and Patino, I have my opinion has changed one eighty.

00:35:21
Speaker 3: Well, got you guys, broke bread. I mean he came on the show to the interviews.

00:35:24
Speaker 4: So but even before that, there was something about when he took the Saint John's job. I just wasn't mad anymore.

00:35:29
Speaker 3: You know, donate money to football.

00:35:32
Speaker 4: Yeah, all right, if I'm nine to two eight, oh, I don't like to keep giving the number. I'm not taking calls. We'll do it. We'll do it again tomorrow. It's just like a natural thing. We'll take a break. Be right back here in Buffalo. It's KSR. Welcome back, Tey Sports Radio. Kentucky Chamber is here that Kentucky famers are struggling to access what should be basic essentials housing and childcare, not luxuries, not extras, but essentials. And the Kentucky Chambers focused on improving access to housing and childcare for all ages and stages of life. It's ty Chamber's been talking about this for over a year. You can learn more at Opportunities starts here dot com. Go to Opportunity starts here dot com, add your name and tell lawmakers this matters. Opportunity Starts here Access to housing childcare into a stronger uh Kentucky. If I'm nine two eight oh twenty two eighty seven, one person rites Matt. I heard Joe All talk about this in the postgame show. At what point, to all the injuries you start to look at the staff, the way they're trained, et cetera. I mean, there may be a point, but I can't do that with a separated shoulder, like, that's not it just happens. There's not It's not a train It's not like you. It's not like an ankle. You can argue with an ankle, maybe you build up the strength or whatever, but when you separate shoulder, it gets knocked out of joint. What's he supposed to do?

00:36:44
Speaker 5: Like, I mean, I don't We joked about the ankle doctor in the past. Then last year we were court side for Curz injury. Watch it happen. You turn ankles in basketball back to back shoulders and stinks. But I can't just make some big grand criticism of the train her. When h Jayla Lowe, who's tiny, is trying to box out Modiabata in practice and separates his shoulder, I don't know that's on the trainer.

00:37:07
Speaker 3: I forgot about the Kirk cries Andrew him getting back.

00:37:09
Speaker 5: That was crazy.

00:37:10
Speaker 3: It was I will remember that forever. That was crazy.

00:37:12
Speaker 4: That is if you're going to have your last play. Yeah. See he's in college this year, isn't he.

00:37:16
Speaker 5: A fun fact? He was spotted at fam All the other day. But he's playing for Cincinnati, so maybe he just maybe he just misses. Yeah, how's he doing?

00:37:23
Speaker 4: Is he getting mad?

00:37:24
Speaker 5: He kept up with his time there, but that's where he is, and I guess he just wanted to come back.

00:37:28
Speaker 4: For potentially Villanova is splitting their point guards Kateen Lewis and Devin ask you both with Kentucky connection.

00:37:35
Speaker 3: Devin as was still playing basketball.

00:37:37
Speaker 4: By the way, if if Drew seems like he's more like, you know, more kind of following the rules button up. Yeah, his his in laws are sitting here right now.

00:37:48
Speaker 5: Well, Abby has gone to some extreme links to make sure I come home.

00:37:51
Speaker 4: From Yeah, I mean, Abby's like, I want to make sure Drew doesn't do anything on the road, So she literally sent her in laws from Ohio to make sure you don't do anything.

00:37:59
Speaker 5: It is pretty Abby's dad and stepmom, Jimmy Conyer here. They live in Northwest Ohio. But they just happened to be passing through Buffalo this morning on the wad of Niagara Falls. What a random occurrence. Well, I'd be glad to have you all keep him a shrink alive too. By the way, they got a listener.

00:38:12
Speaker 4: The thing about Kentucky fans is just it's just crazy because like we had this do the guy Tate, who's just a listener who lives in Buffalo, he came to watch the cover zero taping last night and in talking to him, he was the guy that had the sign at the game that told cal Perry go to Texas.

00:38:31
Speaker 5: That's how interest that was.

00:38:32
Speaker 4: That's how he introduced himself. Who knows there? He was? Who are who keeps walking into this house? There's another person walking into the house.

00:38:40
Speaker 3: Mario'll find out next year.

00:38:42
Speaker 4: Go make sure there's, uh, there's nothing going on. Do you think we beat Michigan State?

00:38:47
Speaker 5: I do.

00:38:47
Speaker 3: Uh.

00:38:48
Speaker 5: I'm not gonna put my heart earned money on it with that spread and the question marks around the back court. But I feel like they're gonna bounce back. And it's not just bouncing back from Louisville. They had a horrible game in New York City last year. So I think both of those away into them being laser focused and putting together a good game.

00:39:04
Speaker 4: Champions Classic has not been kind to us in the last five to six years. It's it's time to get a victory. Uh. Michigan State specifically is one you need to get uh when you when you draw them in it every three years, so we need to get it. And I also think it's the kind of team Billy that if this team's gonna be good, you win games like this, right. This is a team that we are more athletic than we should be more talented. Then the only way they're gonna beat us is by being tough and rough, and we have to make sure that doesn't happen.

00:39:34
Speaker 3: And this is a game where you see at least one guy rise to the occasion. Who is that person on this team? I remember Maxi going off and.

00:39:42
Speaker 4: Maxi had one of the great I mean, I don't know that we've got a Maxi on this team.

00:39:46
Speaker 5: I mean, well, you got a Modia Bonte from Diabonte from New York City who wants to play in the gardens. So that's our that's our homecoming. Player to watch fresh off is double double Friday Night.

00:39:55
Speaker 4: One person Rights. Matt, what do you think about the cop at the A and M South Carolina game? Well, I mean he was clearly in the wrong. I mean the cop was clear and the wrong. It's one of those things that when you see it, you go, how many times does that happen when we don't have a camera, you know what I mean? Like, that's because that was he bumps into the players, and actually it looked to me like nobody was necessarily a fault with the bump. It just kind of happened. But then like after it happened.

00:40:23
Speaker 5: See, I thought he's a fault with the bump. He walked around them, he wedged between them with his arms.

00:40:27
Speaker 3: Extended, kind of like pushing his shoulders up at him and.

00:40:32
Speaker 4: Him maybe I need to watch again. You think he you think he he he.

00:40:35
Speaker 3: Kind of went like you think he was ready to take contact.

00:40:39
Speaker 4: You think he was like setting a pick a moving screen.

00:40:42
Speaker 5: And people have noted when you work at games, whether you're an administrator me and media Mario with a camera, a police officer, when players are coming out of total you'd get out of the way and give him a path, like it's just you just know the team's coming out, step over you think.

00:40:56
Speaker 4: You thinkt a moving pick and then called the foul on.

00:41:00
Speaker 5: Them cores, That's what it looked like.

00:41:02
Speaker 3: Was ready to yell at them as soon as it happened.

00:41:04
Speaker 4: He was. That wasn't quick.

00:41:06
Speaker 5: I think them being down twenty seven to three or whatever, that moment waited on it. I think that's a guy that can't handle his football emotions.

00:41:12
Speaker 4: What's crazy. I think it's worse for him if they don't come back and win.

00:41:16
Speaker 5: Yeah. And also I feel like they could have sent him home without saying it, but they made sure everyone.

00:41:20
Speaker 4: They released the statement that he was getting sent home, and then they released the statement he'll never be back.

00:41:26
Speaker 5: Oh I didn't see that, and they issued it quickly.

00:41:28
Speaker 4: Yeah. I mean they're like, we'll never assign him to a game again.

00:41:31
Speaker 3: Well good. It's unacceptable for law enforcement to do something like that. Some stupid fan that has a pass on the sideline, sure, but that's.

00:41:37
Speaker 4: In a professional billy with a strong take. There we put any other it was weird to any other important any important things.

00:41:45
Speaker 3: It'll come to me when you bring up the headline or whatever. I don't have anything I need to get off my chest or anything.

00:41:50
Speaker 4: Okay, so we just have a minute left. Overall positive experience for.

00:41:55
Speaker 3: You, Yeah, yeah, absolutely. This has been a ton of fun, bucket list kind of thing to do, the NFL thing, and uh, all the equipments worked.

00:42:02
Speaker 4: So that was you got it. You got our podcast to the NFL. They put it out. It's out there. So you did good. I did good. Next time you'll still be in the bunk bed. But nevertheless, I like, we'll try try to make sure it's a bunk bed that has a mattress.

00:42:18
Speaker 5: Yeah, or we'll put Mario in the other bunk with you.

00:42:20
Speaker 4: Yeah.

00:42:21
Speaker 3: Step brothers.

00:42:22
Speaker 4: Yeah, you could be like step brothers. I mean you already wear that sweater so well.

00:42:27
Speaker 3: I always I always thought i'd get Ryan Lemon treatment with the you know, snoring and stuff like that.

00:42:32
Speaker 4: So one day you'll go, that day will come. Well, it's nice to have you on the road, and thank you all who enjoyed the trip. We got a lot of a lot of responses on social media, which was really good. If you want, if you get a chance, go back and like some of those posts. The NFL looks at that stuff to see how it how it went and Uh. We will be back tomorrow in studio, then at the bar Wednesday and Thursday, UH for the games. We'll see you later. From Buffalo, we're headed home. And this is Esports Radio