C&R - ABSolutely the Future of Baseball?

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Speaker 1: The movie in quotable movies. But let's get into it.

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Speaker 2: Last night, last night, I dreamt of Sampedro last night, last night, Jesus last night.

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Speaker 1: Can't you think of a third.

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Speaker 4: Last night? No, you got one? Last night, a DJ saved my life. No DJA come.

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Speaker 1: Through with the assists.

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Speaker 2: Same you, boy, That's how the game is played. Last night, I'm watching the Yankees and you said it, Rich. The only run they could score was a sacrifice fly against the Mariners. Cal Raley, who was like, oh for the season, comes up in a big situation walks off the Yankees. But I'm sitting there watching the whole game, right and throughout the game, the ABS system was put to use.

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Speaker 1: Bro, Yanks were five for five. Did you see that?

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Speaker 2: Like it was put to use, and it was like a grain of rice, as they say, they were getting it by this much, not this much, this much.

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Speaker 1: Calls were turned over.

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Speaker 2: I'm sitting there like, man, I don't know how I feel about this, because it really could change the outcome of a game.

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Speaker 1: Well, yesterday Dan Byer.

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Speaker 2: Brought up an umpire that Sota looked a little foolish, and yesterday it was even worse for him. C B.

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Speaker 1: Buckner.

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Speaker 2: C B. Buckner is not having a good week. This guy is like it's missing inside outside, It's it's to the point now inside outside come around. It's to the point now where some people are just looking a little foolish, right, And that's not the point. It wasn't created to show up an umpire. It was created to get it right.

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Speaker 4: They're calling him D minus Buckner.

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Speaker 1: Now, ah, not C D. Buckner, D minus fun D minus by. I like that.

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Speaker 6: I like that.

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Speaker 2: It's just I you know. And you can see the look on his face too. It's there's a level of like embarrassment. I believe he wrung up Trevor's story on a check swing without checking with the first base umpire simply out a spite. In my mind, like I feel like it was is like a spie level to this as well. I find it interesting. We talked about the theatrics of it.

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Speaker 1: I get it. I'm not one of those haters. Let's make it very clear.

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Speaker 2: I'm just one of those like I don't know how I feel about it yet, sort of guys right, because I'm not used to the strategies involved. Like man that could have been a strikeout, but now he gets another chance, and oh wow, he hit a home run Like that wouldn't have happened if they didn't turn it over. Like wow, that's crazy. So I'm sitting here just like pacing around my living room because the Yankees challenged five calls five for five. I'm like, dang, this is wild. And we're all experiencing this together unless you watch minor the baseball, right, we're all experiencing this together in the big leagues. So I'm sitting there and my girlfriend, who watches casually, I mean she watches me watching it. That's what she does. She watches me watching while scrolling on her phone. She sees me pacing around, like scratching my noggin about it. Yes, said it was March thirtieth. Relax, Relax, I don't get it. Oh, you have one hundred and fifty nine games left. You're pacing around. You pace it around gets postseason baseball. You're pacing around on March thirtieth. Man, get my steps in, bro, Why you don't do that. You're cleaning your counters club. We're mixing mirrors, like nine five hundred steps. I wanted to get five hundred more in my living room.

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Speaker 1: Relax. It's Mark, Wow, the most hyper guy on the planet. You want me to relax. Relax the guy who can's is still for three seconds. But the stakes are low, bro, I'm watching the game. I'm walking around the living room. You don't do that.

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Speaker 2: I'm the only guy. I gotta lay there and sit there the whole time. So anyway, I'm watching the game. It's nail bier five calls. I'm still trying to figure out how I feel about the ABS system. I think much like a lot of people. And my girlfriend, because again she's a casual fan, she doesn't carry their way. She's like, why do they even have umpires? Like what's the point then? And I can't think of one logical reason other than.

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Speaker 1: To move the game along. You know, it's always great.

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Speaker 2: To watch sometimes, not only baseball, any sport or something with someone that doesn't know anything about it, because sometimes they will actually pose really interesting questions like why.

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Speaker 1: Do they do that?

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Speaker 2: And you're like, I really don't know why the referees do this?

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Speaker 1: Or hey, why are the coaches?

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Speaker 3: You know?

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Speaker 2: Like I think I had an X ask me once They're like, why did baseball managers wear uniforms like they're on the team. I'm like, you know what, so I'm like tradition. I'm trying to explain, you know, the human element. She's like, yeah, but if they have the ability to get it right, what's the point.

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Speaker 1: That they're challenge human element? Aren't they?

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Speaker 7: Yes?

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Speaker 1: But you know I'm an element old school guys. Uh, you know umpires need jobs too?

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Speaker 4: Or the next question?

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Speaker 2: So I challenge you Fox Sports Radio Nation, I do everybody, Can anyone give me a serious answer because I need to know. I'm like Mark Anthony, I need to know for when my daughter slides into the kitchen asks me, hey, dad, if they have automatic balls and strikes, why do they have an umpire?

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Speaker 1: I need an.

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Speaker 2: Answer to explain to someone else, the guy at the barber shop.

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Speaker 1: Hey, why do they even have umpires?

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Speaker 6: Man?

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Speaker 2: If they got the automatic ball strike system. Can anyone give me a logical answer other than well, you know, the human element which could be challenged or you know, to move the game along. And you know what's scary about that rich I forget who was saying it recently, but like, oh's Mike Row mic Row of dirty jobs. I mean that guy was right with all his blue collar stuff. He was those those are the jobs that are safe. He's absolutely right, because everything else is unnew. Like Rich and I, we also host a music channel right on Serious XM. Do they need us don't say that aloud, No, but it's the truth. Do they need me to say, Hey, here's Metallica. Hey, and by the way, here's Godsmack. But what do I do? I keep it moving right, to move it along. And I really think that's the only real use of an umpire right now, to keep it moving, to move it along.

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Speaker 8: But you're also the narrator. You you are part of the living organism which which for like a home plate umpire, there's more than there's more of the game situation than just calling balls.

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Speaker 2: And try delaying the inevitable. It's as clear as these on my face. There's no logical explanation as to why we just don't go with the ABS system unless there's a it's gonna delay the game, and they're proving that it's not. Really it's pretty automatic. It's hydromatic. Well, I said it yesterday. I compared it slightly to self checkout at a supermarket, where you're gonna opt yourself check out. But you're like, oh, look there's a couple, you know, a couple of people in their retirement jobs.

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Speaker 1: I don't want.

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Speaker 2: I don't want Bob and you know Bob and Cindy's jobs to go away.

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Speaker 1: They could do check out.

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Speaker 7: Well, you needed for alcohol, right, alcohol? You need for a for a play at the plate? Are you suggesting that a buyer like sits in a chair off to the side, and then when the balls in play he ends up. He would then call the home plate play.

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Speaker 1: I can see that, but you you don't need all of those umpires.

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Speaker 2: I don't mind him standing there just for the illusion, Like I field the umpire like some sort of someone in charge out there.

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Speaker 7: How about they have a gate like in Rodeo, and then when the balls in play, the gate busts open and the umpire runs.

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Speaker 2: Now you're talking that some banana stuff, pediatrics, Dan, I there are theatrics.

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Speaker 1: There's things involved. I get it. There's a transition going.

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Speaker 4: With anybody get trampled.

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Speaker 2: But Mike Rowe recently said publicly and Rich you already said it like the only jobs that are save our trade jobs. You know everyone's gonna need a plumber an electrician of sorts like those are the jobs that are really gonna mean something in the future.

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Speaker 1: They're not going away.

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Speaker 2: So when she's asking me, when a casual fan, my girlfriend is asking me, well, then why do you have umpires?

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Speaker 1: What's the point?

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Speaker 2: I don't have a real answer, so I'm asking for help. Does anyone have the answer?

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 2: It's like our video guy Spot. There are sometimes when we'll ask him a question and we got very used to him rudely saying Google it should I chat ept this? Google it should I chatchy? And you know what, I'll be honest thought, Sam, let's use our brains.

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Speaker 1: Sam. There are times, I know, Sam, you're very anti this stuff.

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Speaker 5: I mean, when I Google something, it's already using AI, so it is I'm already involved in it.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 2: It's like, uh, it's like the old time DJ when you guys all started in radio, Remember the old time DJ. That was like, yeah, I don't want to play sheets or off a computer. I want to play records. And it's like, you have it's not gonna last, my buddy, It's not gonna It's not gonna last.

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Speaker 1: And by the way, I found the list on the New York Post two days ago.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's an article about the jobs that are most exposed to AI that a guy replaced.

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Speaker 4: What's a job?

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Speaker 2: A job job job jibe talking uh, web and digital designers, web developers, anything to do with databases, computer programmers, data scientists.

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Speaker 1: All this stuff is going away.

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Speaker 5: However, though, even if you're using ABS and if you're using AI, you still need a human quality checker.

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Speaker 1: That's fine.

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Speaker 5: You need like somebody, like let's say that you work in an official of so you work in some like uh what do you call it? Those uh warehouses they're building, like these data data farms. Stuff, you still need like one person who is like ot growing a long silver beard to like go through with a with a list and check things off, make sure everything's going as corded plan.

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Speaker 2: Doesn't make a whole lot of sense. As lifelong fans, we've accepted the new and we're like, all right, cool, all right, Yeah, it's been in development for years now, all right, cool cool, But there's really no real answer as to why we have a home plate umpire. Then so I posted a question of rich maybe you should collin AI it and while you do that, Aaron Boone spoke about it recently too, and he was a guy that was completely against it at first, and and much like it's sort of growing on.

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Speaker 1: I'm take a.

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Speaker 3: Listen, I've definitely moved a little more in favor. In part it's we've been good at it the first four i still think it's a little bit odd, so I'm still getting my opinion on it, which in the end now doesn't really matter.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 3: It's like, you know, I kind of switched to this winner when we started really having zooms and stuff with coaches and people in our office to kind of go through strategies and you know, learn about what we've learned about this to this point. Once I knew it was a reality, I shifted to kind of how do we exploit this and be the best we can be at this.

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Speaker 2: That's another layer that a lot of us haven't really explored. We thought about it, but have you really explored like the best counts to challenge to put yourself in a better hitting situation? Oh, without a doubt, Like they know what have you figured out? Like is it common knowledge? They as to when and when not do it? They've already talked about this. I've I've heard people, and I've thought about it myself sometimes the first pitch of it at bat. They say, when you analyze what what proceeds.

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Speaker 1: Not proceeds, what comes after? That would be what proceeds as before let me use my head.

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Speaker 2: Receeds is your hairline. So that's not, well, how about what comes after what follows? When you look at batting average and percentages when you start one to oh versus zero and one drastically different. So they're saying in the beginning of account if if the first pitch is a ball, what one to oh is right, way different than.

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Speaker 1: The whole outcome of the bat.

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Speaker 2: It's it's not just save it for three to two runners on base bottom of the seventh. Aaron Bone even talked about that in the beginning of the season, where but use it. Yeah, all the players have to be up on that, and some players are going to be better than others. But you know, there's so much strategy involved here that I am having a hard time figuring out, like, well, why do we need umpires?

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Speaker 1: Are we are we just delaying it?

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Speaker 7: Dan Bible, I mean to your point about the optics of having somebody there on a bunt on whether it's fair and foul right in front of the catcher. You're going to need that certain point of view that you would like on an instant call. Any call can be reviewed and changed. But I think that that would be a reason why you would have an umpire in that spot. Whether they're calling balls or strikes would be separate of it, but you still would probably need a person at that spot for those sort of plays bunched on the line.

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Speaker 4: Fair fouled.

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Speaker 2: You know, that's a really fair answer. That's a good answer. I mean that there's gonna be a home plate umpire on hand. It's just a matter of will they call or will that be difficult? Maybe there's a just a field umpire and he's there. Maybe there's two empires instead of yeah, you know, like I don't know.

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Speaker 7: Because I think that people think, like, let's get rid of the home played umpire. They just don't want anybody there, Like what's but you're gonna need someone for that base to at least record it there. So but on there there your models will just call balls and strikes as well.

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Speaker 2: dB, I'm with you because Rich brought this up. I'll give credit to my guy here to my left, Rich Davis.

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Speaker 4: Rich David, I've never heard you do that before.

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Speaker 1: This is rare.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna sit back and take it. I'm not hating on the ABS system. Let's get it right. But so many of these calls that they are challenging that they're missing are so on the edge of the strike zone, like like I'm talking Greg Greg Mannix, just right there hitting the corners. But by this much, there's only been a few calls where they were like drastically off, like only a few. All the ones that they that have challenged and they've been wrong about are so close that it's like they could have been a strike if it was Dan Bayer. I apologize. I talked to someone about this. You showed me that chart. Yeah, no, that the chart of the challenge call. So far, there were only two obvious ones where there was a ball right down the middle of that they called yeah. So for something like that there was challenge that there was a low and outside one. But most of the balls that have been challenged, good and bad, like overturned or not, are like literally like you know, when you see a spray chart of shots in the NBA, the spray chart of ball it was literally around the square except two exceptions. And with that said, then you're really taking away the intricacies of an umpire strike zone. Someone was saying, how great fighting of the you know, don't you like the human elment of the managers and the umpires. There was a there was a manager yesterday was at the Twins where he was arguing and the announcers.

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Speaker 1: Like, you can't argue on you can't argue robots.

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Speaker 8: But that's another reason you need them to handle the in person disputes robots.

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Speaker 1: It's a strike.

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Speaker 2: But based on what I'll saying with that chart, someone was saying, like a guy like Greg Maddox would strategically work parts of the zone to get the call later in the game and slowly work around the zone that's over. And then the other to is we all got little kids, when does this start? So you use umpires until you get to the big So like, it's not like little league and pony ball and high school and college they gonna have abs.

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Speaker 1: No way. So maybe you.

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Speaker 2: Say no way, but I bet you it's it's probably going to be even more simple to figure out how to do this in the future.

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Speaker 1: You think all of that in.

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Speaker 2: Team side, sideline, team sideline is gonna get a new uh yeah, new equipment be a stupid app that you can have on your phone and a year and a half.

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Speaker 7: The postseasons are are ruled differently than the regular season. We don't have right field and left field uh line umpires during the regular season. So what that tells me is that Major League Baseball with whatever they want to do with the Umpires Association, But if you wanted to keep down costs and only pay three guys, they already do it. Because if it's if it's that important for the postseason where you need a guy down right and you need a guy down left, then you probably should have them there in the regular season as well. It's not like the NFL edge three more guys in the playoffs or the NBA adds another official in the postseason, but for whatever reason, and Major League Baseball does it that way. But yeah, so I could see them subtracting if they ever needed to, because if you look at the postseason, it doesn't matter on what they and they change it anyway for the postseason.

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Speaker 1: Desp a really really interesting. I find the spray chart.

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Speaker 7: Well, that was the problem with Buckner, by the way, because he had one inside and one outside it.

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Speaker 2: But that's the size of Ohio. I want to try to find that picture though, because it really is like you know when something is like, well, it wasn't designed for that, but that's what people are using it for. I feel like, again, most of the calls that were overturned or not are within inches of the of that square the K zone. Only two or three so far the season are like, wow, that was a bad call, And I think it was designed for the bad call when it's you know, when it's like.

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Speaker 1: Ooh three and one ball.

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Speaker 2: Four and it's like no, nicked it by like like a grain of rice, Like is that was that?

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Speaker 1: What is designed for it? To get it right?

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Speaker 4: I like in football when the shoe is like right on the white line.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's been a fun sort of transition to be a part of to watch. Hey, by the way, Rich and I share something in common. Our very first paying jobs were little league umpires, little league umpires, So not hating on the Empires, just speculating on Hey, if we have the ability to get it right, give me a logical answer as to why there's a home played umpire I modeled because we were taking it slow.

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Speaker 1: Is that really? It is that the real true? And it's like it's a slow transition.

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Speaker 2: By the way, I modeled my litt League umpiring after Leslie Nielsen and they could gun.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Studyes.

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Speaker 2: By the way, what was it like fifteen dollars a game behind home play?

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Speaker 1: I think twenty ten dollars in the field? I think is what I started out.

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Speaker 2: He was twenty behind home play ten or fifteen in the field. I umpired Little League for a good two three years. There was a great, great learning experience. You know, these guys under are under a lot of pressure. It's not meant to embarrass them. We established that yesterday is to get it right. But what's the point. What's the point of keeping them around if we have the ability to get it right in a really decent amount of time.

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Speaker 1: It's a great question.

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Speaker 1: Marc Anthony, who needs to know? And Marc Anthony, why do we need to know?

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Speaker 2: I need to know why we have homeplate umpires. I need to know. Here's what's bothering me the most.

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Speaker 1: I need to know.

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Speaker 2: How I feel about this because I'm so confused by everything about it.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I know how it works. You said you're confused by two things the finale of Paradise last night. Yeah, I was confused by it and why are we what are we doing with abs?

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Speaker 2: I like Dan Byer's reasoning of well, you need a homeplate umpire for a fair ball down the line, I'm like, well, you can have like a field official, like a field umpire, one umpire. Do you really need the homeplate umpire If we have the ability to get the calls right? Are we doing it for the theatrics of it? Are we doing it to keep the game moving because you know the umpire is going to get some wrong. I think in the Yankee game last night, and again that's the one I was watching, So feel free to represent your team or whatever. Eight seven, seven ninety nine, O Fox, the Yankees challenge five calls?

00:25:21
Speaker 1: They were five for five. Right.

00:25:23
Speaker 2: There's a whole other stat that we're going to have to figure out too, like, Yo, how good is your team at getting these calls right versus the umpire?

00:25:30
Speaker 1: It's almost like, how's your team on fourth down?

00:25:31
Speaker 6: Right?

00:25:32
Speaker 1: Exactly? Yeah?

00:25:33
Speaker 2: Well, I think the umpire had twelve missed calls or something like that, so like there was still twelve calls that they didn't get, So, you know, there's so much.

00:25:43
Speaker 1: Confusion around it.

00:25:44
Speaker 2: But I ask you this question because my girlfriend asked me yesterday why do they have homeplate umpires? Then I don't have a real, like honest answer. I don't know what are you doing?

00:25:55
Speaker 8: You don't tell her about the rest of the rules that they have to enforce the rules. And then I brought up the disputes.

00:26:00
Speaker 1: But the fights are fun, right.

00:26:01
Speaker 8: Yeah, the manager getting his shoes like dirt kicked on his cleats.

00:26:06
Speaker 1: The days of Loop Panela and Tommy Lesorda.

00:26:08
Speaker 8: And still there's still in person disputes though that a robot's not going to be able to fix.

00:26:13
Speaker 2: Sometimes, sometimes you like a good baseball fight and an ejection and these things. I like that too. I'm with you on it. I'm not hating. I'm just stating that doesn't make a whole lot of sense. I have the answer, and it's through sad analogy. But by the way, what what dB said. I agree that a homeplate umpire more is an administrator of sorts, like almost overseeing the game. Like a homeplate umpire is sort of the the crew chief.

00:26:37
Speaker 1: That's sort of Still.

00:26:38
Speaker 2: I hate to say, we're just in a weird transitional phase. This is not how it's going to remain permanent.

00:26:44
Speaker 1: I'll tell you it's not. Can I give you a sad analogy? Sure?

00:26:48
Speaker 2: So we lost our dog in December. Man, you're already making me, said Piper Waffles. Our little French bulldog.

00:26:56
Speaker 1: I was Sam.

00:26:57
Speaker 2: You would play with that dog every time you came over. Sam and my dog got a little bond spot too, our buddy Spot and hot Piper.

00:27:04
Speaker 1: No spotshet a tear at my house. I would expect it.

00:27:07
Speaker 2: Piper was a sweet little sausage roll. Can I tell you something not to get all sad? You know her dog ball is still out because my wife doesn't have the heart to officially put it away.

00:27:18
Speaker 1: Sad.

00:27:19
Speaker 2: I use that set analogy. We're not ready to say goodbye to umpires because there's a part of us that's like, yeah, but it's like part of the game, and like you know, like the minute we think about the umpires and it's officially robots, Okay, we're keeping around, keeping them around for anyone over seventy, but we're keeping them around simply because we're almost scared to move on in a way, and think about like I felt that way, Rich, Remember when we fired our original producer, but we kept them around as a video guy until eventually faded away. Is that we do it all our producers making video guys and then get and then get rid of it. Not joking, Spot, but that's the truth. Wait wait what who our original original? Is this the pre spot era? Yeah, a pre pre Spot era. He's like BC versus eight.

00:28:00
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're not.

00:28:00
Speaker 2: Gonna really get ready, dude, Like you can make videos for us and stuff, and then eventually that went away, and that's what we're what we're seeing here.

00:28:07
Speaker 8: I agree with you, Rich, Yeah, but sometimes you leave a company and they don't know or realize everything you did until you're gone. I don't know, there's a list of things and like wait, oh he did that any took care? Oh and we got to cover that now. So you guys are not digging deep enough to what all the job responsibilities are for that homeplate?

00:28:26
Speaker 4: Umpire.

00:28:27
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what, Danny G. I hate to give you another sad analogy. I'm like, really bringing the sadness today.

00:28:34
Speaker 1: In your phone?

00:28:34
Speaker 2: Do you have phone numbers of people that are no longer with us? Sure, because deep down inside you're never going to delete it because that's like a weird like.

00:28:45
Speaker 1: I'm removing them.

00:28:47
Speaker 2: You keep them around, like some people will text a relative as some type of like therapeutic thing. Like I'm just saying, we don't like to let things go, and I think Umpires We're really just gonna hang around and see and they're gonna be there adventure at one point, they're gonna be there just monitoring because you need someone. And I think we're, like Cavino said, we're in a weird world where if you thought it was weird when social media and the Internet took over AI, people in that world will tell you AI is gonna dwarf the changes we saw with the internet.

00:29:20
Speaker 1: If we thought the Internet and.

00:29:21
Speaker 2: Social media changed our lives, people are saying AI. There's people already talking about it in our lifetime. Anytime you get a surgery or you're a doctor, it's gonna be like a robot claud doing it, and there's gonna be someone there sort of monitoring it. I mean, we're I mean, every industry is gonna change with AI. Let's get a few phone calls Dan, Dan Buyer's update. So the question is why do we even have umpires? Do you have a real logical answer for that?

00:29:54
Speaker 1: Feel sad to say goodbye to them? Danny? Do you want to go rapid fire?

00:29:57
Speaker 4: Yeah, let's start with Randy in Kentucky.

00:29:59
Speaker 1: Randy, what's up, Bud? What's up? Man?

00:30:03
Speaker 6: Hey? So I think I got four things. You got safe out calls at home plate, yep, you got obstruction calls, catchers, interference, the ball hits.

00:30:13
Speaker 2: Them, Randy, there's reasons. I think we're more asking like why do we why do we have them for like an strike, balls and strikes?

00:30:20
Speaker 1: If we're committed to getting the call right, why not just get it right?

00:30:23
Speaker 2: I think we could all agree, and Dan Bye brought up the best point, like there's other calls a homeplate Onpire makes, but I'm saying, let's stick to the balls and strikes. Why we even why are we like soft launching this just to make sure it's right. You think it a year from now, we're like, yeah, it works, Yep. They tested this, they've been doing it, I think over three years. They've been using it, and it's been in development for a long time.

00:30:46
Speaker 8: So but with the pro level, I don't think they can just go cold turkey. Yeah, you're right, and people got to get used to it, especially baseball fans.

00:30:54
Speaker 7: How much do you guys think that a baseball umpire's reputation plays into this. They're really the only issues that confront teams, and I think that everyone is relishing in the fact that these umpires are being put in their place. Yeah, you know, like there's something to that you don't see.

00:31:12
Speaker 5: You know, what's that, Jason Stewart, I'm sorry, Jason is like to explain your story.

00:31:22
Speaker 2: I'm sorry that Jason's relishing in the fact that the mpires being buried.

00:31:26
Speaker 5: I thought we all saw his social media post. I'm sorry, shouldn't jump the gun there. Jason's kind of liking the fact they're getting a little bit you know.

00:31:32
Speaker 7: Yeah, like you don't see you don't see Sean Hockyly, you know, getting in the face of Robert Salah, you know, on a holding call or or anything like that, like it would be. Yeah, it's these are the only officials that end up doing it in are arrogant and at times brash and sometimes start their own confrontations.

00:31:49
Speaker 4: And now they're kind of being put in their place.

00:31:51
Speaker 2: But I know how sad it is for them, though, you imagine they're still as arrogant as they may have been. Right, and we all hated the Empires, it brought a lot of fun. You say, you love the Billy Martin umpire back.

00:32:02
Speaker 8: Yeah, it's a little kid. That was one of the things that drew us to the game.

00:32:06
Speaker 1: They were the guys that made the call.

00:32:09
Speaker 2: Now it's like they have no power and they have to go home to their wife all defeated, Like what's wrong, Honey's.

00:32:14
Speaker 1: Like, oh no, it was embarrassed again at.

00:32:16
Speaker 2: The field today, Like they are probably losing sleep at night, Like I love to hear an interview with one of these guys, to hear the nightmare that they're living through right now.

00:32:24
Speaker 1: When you got the entire crowds you say you're in against.

00:32:27
Speaker 8: They used to be Big Mike who ran the police, and now they don't run.

00:32:30
Speaker 1: Can give you, I'll give you.

00:32:31
Speaker 2: Listen, man, I'm feeling like I'm rolling with the analogies. But you know what it's like a program director before Spotify and Apple and you know, iHeart streaming, before everything became more accessible on social media. Program directors used to have artists by the nuts, like you want us to play your song, Well you got blah blah blah and blah blah blah. Now it's like an artist is like, yeah, we don't need you as much. I feel a little bad for them. I do. And it's like a hot chick that's no longer hot, like she was a hot like now she's like middle aged fatty. When she used to be hot, she she thinks she could bust around guys.

00:33:04
Speaker 1: Not anymore.

00:33:05
Speaker 2: And you know it's like, you know, there's certain people to get out before the getting's good. I always say that Hugh Hefner died before people were able to really point out how.

00:33:13
Speaker 1: Creepy you was.

00:33:14
Speaker 2: Angel Hernandez got out right before it was about to get banned.

00:33:19
Speaker 1: Angel imagine.

00:33:19
Speaker 2: All right, let's go to DB's update. They'll take all your feedback. The phones are hot, having fun, cn R dB.

00:33:28
Speaker 1: What's going on?

00:33:28
Speaker 7: Then, guys news just in you saw it on Fox Sports one. Italy is going to miss the World Cup again, losing in their European qualifying final on penalty kicks. Bosnia and Herzegovina end up winning for to one on p k's they were tied one one after one hundred and twenty minutes. Italy played a majority of the match with ten men because of a red card. They will miss the World Cup for the third straight time.

00:33:53
Speaker 2: Oh my, guys, Italia Jersey for no reason, They're not the only can they Cater're welcome A.

00:34:02
Speaker 7: Good call CHECKI ad top Denmark on pks three to one on those penalty kicks, so Checky advances. Sweden beat Poland earlier today three to two Turkey top Kosovo one nil. Tiger Woods entered a not guilty plea to charges today, including suspicion of Duy's do back in court in late April. Martin County Sheriff's Department says that Woods told police he glanced at his phone and then noticed the vehicle in front of him slowing down. Just prior to Friday's crash. Two hydrocone pills were found in Wood's pocket, with officers saying he was sweating profusely and had glassy eyes. Orlando's Camping World Stadium will be the Jacksonville Jaguars temporary home in twenty twenty seven because of the renovations being made to EverBank Stadium, the NFL approving that today. NFL owners also approved a rule that would allow the league's officiating department to correct a clear missed call if replacement officials are needed to be used this upcoming season.

00:34:58
Speaker 4: That map tied to abs.

00:34:59
Speaker 7: I think that's time to the fail mary that we had between the Seahawks and Packers about fifteen years ago. A couple of other notes to pass along, guys. Gonzaga has marked few doc rivers Now, I'd go to the box, Samarri Stodalemeyer Kandas Parker, Elena Della don all heading to the Basketball Hall of Fame. According to reports, Jacob deGrom the throw for the Rangers tonight against the Orioles. He was scratched. This weekend, Mariners gave prospect Cole Emerson an eight year, ninety five million dollar deal the shortstop currently at Triple A.

00:35:25
Speaker 1: Guys, back to you, Thank you Dan.

00:35:27
Speaker 2: And by the way, I know it's not new news, so it wouldn't make Buyer's Update, But as a Syracuse guy, I saw Jerry McNamara's press conference and I, you know, you realize how quick time moves.

00:35:39
Speaker 1: Syracuse hasn't made the tournaments this weekend.

00:35:41
Speaker 2: Syracuse hasn't made the tournament in years and years now, and he's saying, I'm bringing it back to the Beheim days. So for old school Big East now ACC basketball, like Syracuse has to be. It's like when they're not relevant in college hoops, the college isn't the same.

00:35:54
Speaker 7: Right They're One of the students who was a senior said this is my last year here. We never made the tournament.

00:36:00
Speaker 1: I saw the same cliff. That's what made me think of it. Thank you, Dan Byer.

00:36:02
Speaker 2: Thank you now your phone calls and thoughts on ABS and some baseball. Plus, we're gonna do Tyson Trivia, pay tribute to Tommy Boy, which celebrates thirty one years today, and an NFL deep thought about international travel. That's all coming up right here CNR on FSR live from the Fox Sports Radio Studio. Professional wrestling fans, the action continues every week t and a Thursday Impact every week. Don't miss the adrenaline, the drama, and the total NonStop actually own as you watch your favorite TNA wrestling stars. For showtimes and more information, visit TNA wrestling dot com.

00:36:47
Speaker 1: Oh Last Nash.

00:36:52
Speaker 2: Lots of great baseball, lots of great basketball, and we're gonna talk all about it. Fox Sports Radio Cavino and Rich live from the Fox Sports Radio Studio. Fact, it's time for our tyrect Play of the Day. Jackson Hayes and DeAndre Ayton were perfect thirteen for thirteen from the field last night.

00:37:10
Speaker 1: Rod blob up in the jam w worst time.

00:37:15
Speaker 7: These two teams beat the Lakers shot over sixty percent.

00:37:20
Speaker 1: What are they shooting right now? Sixty and a half percent?

00:37:24
Speaker 4: They got their number.

00:37:26
Speaker 2: Lakers made it look easy last night, easy over the Wizards won twenty one to one. That call was courtesy of Lakers Television from Spectrum Sportsnet, and that was our tyrac Player of the Day. For over forty years, tyrack has been helping customers find the right tires for how, what and where they drive, shipped fast and free, backed by free road hazard protection with convenient installation options like mobile tire installation tiraq dot Com. A tire buying should be I'm Cavino, that is Rich, Danny g is here, Sam Bayer, and you Fox Sports Radio Nation. Now, by the way, less than ten games left in the NBA. You and I always talk about how the regular season for you and I is more of a casual watch, and then all of a sudden, like a flip switches for me where I'm like, oh, let's watch now, and I'm like, NBA playoffs. I think it's the one sport where I couldn't really care much about the regular season compared to the playoffs.

00:38:15
Speaker 1: But playoff time we're here.

00:38:16
Speaker 2: Man.

00:38:16
Speaker 1: The question is if we have the abs system and it's working great.

00:38:20
Speaker 4: It just made me feel like a loser because I watched the whole season.

00:38:22
Speaker 1: I know, I know, Danny, you know why. I'll tell you what.

00:38:24
Speaker 2: I hate the idea that when you include the playing round, right, the new playing round from a couple of years ago. Now you're talking about twenty of the thirty two teams are in like that. To me, it's like too easy, too easy to be involved, like the other five hundred teams make.

00:38:38
Speaker 1: It every year.

00:38:39
Speaker 4: In the East Man there's only thirty teams.

00:38:42
Speaker 1: Yeah, thirty, twenty and thirty.

00:38:43
Speaker 2: My bad, I was thirty in MLB thirty and basketball thirty two in the NFL.

00:38:48
Speaker 1: Rich was counting the Globetrotters and the generals. Now he's right. Yeah.

00:38:55
Speaker 4: Is there Seattle in Las Vegas, y? Just looking into the future like AI?

00:39:00
Speaker 1: Now I'm Alex from Paradise.

00:39:02
Speaker 2: Is there a logical reason as to why there's still homeplate umpires?

00:39:07
Speaker 1: That's part of the question.

00:39:08
Speaker 2: But I think what you're really getting at when you hear our discussion, or what I'm trying to figure out myself, is that you're not alone if you feel like there's some sort of adjustment when you're watching just as a spectator, because I'm sort of watching like, huh.

00:39:23
Speaker 1: I don't even know how to feel about this.

00:39:25
Speaker 2: Well again, it's we have a hard time adjusting humans. Humans having a hard time with change, right, So that's why we do things slowly and you know, step by step. I definitely don't hate it, but it is an adjustment. Let's take one quick phone call now and wrap it up at the top of the out.

00:39:41
Speaker 4: How do we thank you to everybody for holding here? Mo in Arizona?

00:39:44
Speaker 2: What mo?

00:39:46
Speaker 3: Hey, guys, how's it going?

00:39:47
Speaker 1: What's up? Man?

00:39:48
Speaker 7: Much?

00:39:49
Speaker 1: Okay?

00:39:49
Speaker 8: I'm my old school so you got you know, I got to have the human element.

00:39:52
Speaker 3: You know, uh, who on the third strike?

00:39:55
Speaker 2: And I mean and then also you know who's going to.

00:39:57
Speaker 5: Run, the manager and the player you're going to pitch?

00:40:00
Speaker 1: By the way, there you go. Even if it were automated, don't you need something to do at all?

00:40:06
Speaker 2: He said, logical answer, Not like God, that's your personal goofy preference. No, you tell me a third strike that that knicks the corner.

00:40:18
Speaker 1: Dude, you need a little my calculations say you are round, they can do it.

00:40:31
Speaker 2: This is good to make fun of. See Buckler More and Pylon. Did you see your pal Jumboy saying that throughout the game you could tell his call third strikes became less emphatic because he he was he was feeling the doubt in himself. Like first inning he was, by the eighth inning he was like, he was like, it's an adjustment for all of us.

00:40:56
Speaker 1: Everybody absolutely is, and that's what makes an interest. All right, Well, hey, we turn our.

00:41:02
Speaker 2: Attention to football, and we're gonna do Tyson trivia.

00:41:05
Speaker 1: We have a lot coming up, but.

00:41:06
Speaker 2: Football, Is there any reason why teams would want to play internationally? Kyle Shanahan and spoke out, and as a Niners fan, I'm curious what you think about what he said. We'll get to that in a bunch more next right here on CNR