Layzie Bone: Biggie Copied Us, Pac’s Thug Nation, Real Eazy E & Wu-Tang Fight

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Speaker 1: Welcome back all the smoke. Have we decided? What season? This is? Season six? Jay? We got six seasons. Bros.

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Speaker 2: Your nails look nice, you got them done.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I get shiny buff. No policies, shiny buff.

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Speaker 2: Okay, you live in Atlanta, So I just had to ask.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's good you asked. But you know you know me better than Yeah. I thought I did, but I do. Man, Welcome to the show. And I tell I was just telling bro, like I'll ask anybody to come on our show. But when I seen him at the softball game like two weeks ago, I kind of got nervous, Like, y'all, I've been such a big fan of these dudes, Like I don't even know if I want to ask him. And then I said, fuck it, that's making it real. And he came through. I gave his wife my number and she hit me up. Maybe a week later and we're here, Man, Welcome to the show. The one and only Lazy bone Man.

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Speaker 1: Yeah this peace Man Leisure Leisure.

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Speaker 4: Earlier this year, y'all shared a picture together right here. Take a look at that. What was that getting the group back together and chopping it up?

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Speaker 1: Was what was that about?

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Speaker 5: And that's that's that All Five Live right there, you know what I mean. Like that's when you put that hand up and you can give a smooth slap when it's one of them, you know what I mean. But when you ball that whole thing up and it's so powerful, you know what I mean. So that's the All Five Live, me and my brothers coming together to put the stamp on the legacy. I love what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: Anything in the works with the whole group.

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, we definitely. We're definitely working on an album right now. But just it's it's so much more than just music, you know what I mean, Like the music, the autobiography, the book, the movie, you know what I mean, the rock and roll hall, the Hollywood Walk of Fame. It's a lot of it's a lot of things.

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Speaker 1: I love it. I love it.

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Speaker 3: I love it in your mind like me and Matt, you know, we we listen to Bonne New y'all legs. But in your mind, what do you think you guys are an impact that you had on hip hop?

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Speaker 5: I mean, you know, and in the most humble way I can put it, I think bon Thugs in harmony besides run DMC or NWA or ghetto Boys something like that is probably the most influential group ever in bon thus in harmony and hip hop and probably even music because you know we up there in that category of music too, because we changed the sound, we changed the look, we changed. It was so many different dynamics that came with bonb thus in Harmony that the ingredients we put into the pot of gumbo that was already hip hop before we came out in ninety four. It was like, what we added is what it became.

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Speaker 3: Today and everybody, everybody, everybody, Uh, the style of ball hormonizing and rapid fire rapping when you were when you when you turn your voice to an instrument, what's the like, what's the processing that? Because all y'all probably got singing backgrounds before y'all start rapping.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, well, I mean, you know that's that's heavily influenced through family, you know what I mean, Like Mama were not not really church because you know, my grandmother and them was your hope for witnesses and things like that. So, uh, you know, our influence came from My whole family was singers. My mom was a singer. That was my main influence, you know, rest in peace. Just lost Moms not too long ago, but it was it was really her guidance through music and her love of music with the Temptations and you know all that the music we grew up to growing up in the seventies.

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Speaker 1: That they playing around the household.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, cleaning up Sunday morning. You know you gotta get your sweep on Sunday morning. You probably they gonna put on easy like Sunday more on. Yeah, that type of ship, which we just just did a new single remake of the Commodorees line of Richies. Uh easy like Sunday Morning too. So that's out right now. Y'all can go check that out down thad to go to Boone Thus and Harmony, Uh YouTube check it out.

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Speaker 1: Were working rap to this fan coming off YouTube.

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Speaker 3: These dudes really talk all the rappers how to change flows and wrapping different pockets on beat.

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Speaker 5: You agree, absolutely, rap was just one way, you know, dot dot dot dut dah. And then we did like we changed the cadence. We changed the flows. We sped it up, we slowed it down, we put the We treated rap.

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Speaker 1: Like a.

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Speaker 5: I would say, uh uh a stick shift you had. We switched gears on niggas at all times, and we all or do it differently, you know what I'm saying. So that's the that's the beauty behind Bonds. It's five of us with the same concept, which forms a mastermind. We all think alike.

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Speaker 3: In my mind, a lot of rappers today basically stole y'all flow. And the ones that do that flow but don't have they can't rap, I don't have no substance.

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Speaker 1: They call it mumble rap. You agree with that, That's what I think they could.

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Speaker 3: The one that, like everybody just stole y'all be people been rapped, y'all been rapping it, that y'all created, everybody doing it. But the ones that ain't really saying nothing, they call it mumble rap instead of just saying they took y'all style.

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Speaker 5: And that goes back to the cadence we gave to hip hop, you know what I mean. Like you can hear the melody now and just and just mumble and it might sound something if if you got a little voice behind it. But yeah, that's the cadence that we lend.

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Speaker 1: To a lot of auto tune with them today too, Yeah.

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Speaker 5: I mean yeah, But and then auto tune really like it really didn't get close to auto tune. Yeah, but you know, Mariah Carey did it before all the tunes took over, you know what I mean. And that showed you where busy Bones voice and the crazy Bones staccato flow was coming from.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 5: So yeah, man, we we linked that to the game and rap was one way, and then what we added to it, you know, gave it opened up ideas it was Pandora's box.

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Speaker 1: You know, everybody ran with it another fancy.

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Speaker 3: I still think that Bone Thug have had more influence on Mardern hip hop than any other group.

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Speaker 1: They were so ahead of their time. I agree what you did.

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Speaker 5: I agree too. They definitely must be Bone fans, you know what I mean. But yeah, man, I mean we came out in nineteen ninety four. In nineteen ninety four, like it wasn't you wasn't hearing people. You might have heard twisted rapping fast. You know, his flow went one way. Then you had Dye's effects, this bomb, sticky Bomb, sticky bump Bom like all those things was different influences. But we had the influence of like I was saying, the seventies music, Marvin Gaye, Temptations, Michael Jackson new addition, we grew up on all that type of stuff. So around the burning barrel, not only was we rapping, you know what I mean, but we were singing. We were singing those songs too, just trying to stay warm while we was on the block getting our money, you know what I'm saying. So it's like the harmony, the flow, the cadences, the switching gears, all that thing, all that came from ten twelve, fifteen years of bomb thus and harmony being together. Before you know, we was heard of. We had to tape out Caught Faces of Death in Cleveland. Beforehand, we had a song called flow Motion, which was ninety one something like that, like way before our time.

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Speaker 4: I'm a jump line real quick, jack jel mind. One of my favorite songs is break It Down. You mentioned Mariah early, and I think it was you and Wish on that song break it Down.

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Speaker 5: It was originally it was Crazy and Wish and then I was at it.

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Speaker 4: Okay, So talk to us about that song and working with someone like her.

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Speaker 5: In all her greatness, I mean, well, Mariah Carey was probably the first mega ultra super duper star that we worked with like that, Yeah, to that magnetuo, you know what I mean, Like we that studio session we come in, she got gifts that you wouldn't believe she'd give a nigga, you know, I mean, like just expensive shit, just like extra nice and and you know the way she studied that from that first the way she was a tentative in that session, you know what I mean, It was like, let me know that she was paying attention in that first session breakdown. So when we got to the next sessions, she was full blown doing bone flows, you know what I'm saying. So somebody of that stature became a student of the music too, like which let me know back then that we're doing some shit right, a lot.

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Speaker 4: Of influence Cleveland, what's in the music DNA of Cleveland, oh.

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Speaker 5: Man, anywhere we come from. So run man, you gotta start. You gotta start probably with Eddie LeVert Man, you know what I mean, Like Cleveland, Ohio period. The funk come from Ohio. I know it's a California thing and Snoop Dogg and them defunk and all that, but all them vibes come from Ohio. Man, you know, Roger Troutman Ohio players. Uh all that funk so Eddie LeVert and then we was an R and B town for a long time because you had LeVert, you had rude boys men at large like Cleveland, we been on the scene. But yeah, lord, yeah, I just put that song out on the picture on ig for my mom.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Well, so we used to sing all they songs, you know, we had club style one O eight was it only came on Saturdays in Cleveland, like when I first started listening to hip hop early eighties and things like that. So I've been through every fad, every fad you can think of, and hip hop, I've been there, you know what I mean, from starting from New run DMC through the new Edition singing theres and mixing it with Michael Jackson and run them see up to the beastie boys is man. We we've been through all all all five decades.

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Speaker 1: Cleveland. Uh tough upbringing? Uh Midwest? Uh?

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Speaker 4: Any truth that you had a bullet you got shot in the head and the doctor nicknamed you iron head?

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Speaker 5: Yeah man, these whole ass niggas shot.

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Speaker 2: Yeah sixteen, tell us what tell us about that story?

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Speaker 5: I mean, you know, fans that do know me, they know that. You know, back in the days, you know, we was hustling. That's what our music was about. That's the life we was living. So we was hustling. I come home from jail, me and my brother walking up the street one night. Some niggas jump out of you go, mistaking me for another light skinned nigga.

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Speaker 1: Happened a lot to us.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, So what happened was we fell out. They you know, they got out. I had some mace. I sprayed the guy. I tried to run because I seen the gun turned around. Boom, get hitting the head. Long story short, you know, my brother saved my life that day, Flesh and Bonus, my oldest brother, you know what I'm saying. So he got me to the hospital. And that's when I viowed it like I ain't I ain't fucking with sulling dope no more. You know, I'm gonna just really put it into this music thing. And and that's what really turned my life all the way around. I still got into trouble a little bit more after that, but that that iron Head message woke my ass up.

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Speaker 1: So you're Flesh Blood brothers.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, same mama.

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Speaker 1: You kind of you kind of looked like it.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, Flesh, Flesh My he my big brother.

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Speaker 1: Man.

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Speaker 5: He taught he taught me you know everything I know really about counting my money and you know, going to school because my brother used to play ball, you know what I mean. So basketball is one of our things. I ain't never really had a grade, but always you know, got some hindles and shit.

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Speaker 2: Explain the bloodline in the family line between the.

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Speaker 5: Group, Well, Flesh is my oldest brother, my mom's oldest son, my pop's oldest son. Which Bone is my cousin with my eyes sweet no Me and Crazy Bone best friend since seventh grade. Which turns out my mama went to school with his dad, and you know, so when all that hooked up, it was a big old family. And then Busy Bone was the last member to come into Bone Well we was born enterprise at the time, but he was the last member to come in being the youngest. So this was like ninety one, and my mom met his dad and he ended up living with us, you know, and we.

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Speaker 1: Thought y'all was brothers.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, everybody think, you know, they say the light skin look alike, man, but you don't.

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Speaker 4: All the time, the swag y'all had the rain ponchos, the junko jeans, the ski goggles.

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Speaker 2: Where did all that come from? That was just what y'all grew up with.

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Speaker 5: I mean, you know, well, well we grew up. Like I said, I've been through every fat so I did the Adidas and all that. But at that time, by the time we came out, we was full blown on reading all the war, reading mcavelly, you know what I'm saying, and just really on some it might be the end of the world in nineteen ninety nine, so we got to get our can goods together and save our money. Y two k right, it We was on. We was on preparing for We always been on some soldier stuff, you know. Never no gang shit, but always on like it's all us our music against everybody, like we had to. We went against street niggas because we can rap. Niggas thought we had money when we didn't have money, you know what I mean. So it was always like we was always humbled by the game, you know what I mean. It wasn't never no braggadocious bone thugs and harmony, you know what I'm saying. It was always humble crossroads. If I could teach the world, change the world. You know, all these messages we sprinkled in on top of we'd bust your motherfucking head over, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: So Cleveland sports fan growing up, Cleveland period all day.

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Speaker 5: Well you know basketball, well, Cleveland Browns all day, every day. Oh my god, that's a long story, but you know basketball, I was a Showtime Lakers fan first and foremost, you know what I mean. And Cleveland, you know all hometown teams. You know, Cleveland is the city. So that run through our blood, through and through.

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Speaker 2: So what do you think about what they're doing to the door right now?

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Speaker 5: I mean, I don't get into no type of politics, but me personally, I think it's I think it's wrong. You know what I mean. I think because his father is who his father is, and I grew up watching show Time, you know what I'm saying. So the braggadocio is uh, you know that intimidated a lot of people, I think, you know what I mean, But uh, I think they should get it. I think they should get a little nigga a shot. You know, Gabriel did good last week, you know what I mean, he showed up, he did his thing. But uh, we all want to see sha door. The hood wanted to see sha door. We want to see what he can do if he since you know, you slid him down so far, try to take the money out of his pockets. But you know he come from money, so you know the issue.

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Speaker 1: Were you Charles growing up? Hell?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? From the town?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, man, we used to it was a spot called Togo Sweet in Cleveland. So when we first made it, you know that, oh he was at his end of his career, but he frequent you know, in Cleveland. Him the Wishball used to hang out all the time. Man at the Togo Sweet. I'd be like, man, wish that nigga got a game? You got a show man, y'all gotta come on, mind, it's time to go.

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Speaker 4: One way ticket to LA reports. You were homeless for a few months. At what age did you say it's time to make a move.

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Speaker 5: I had went to California back in like nineteen ninety. I had ran away from home. I got myself in some trouble in eighty nine and caused me to have to go to Texas. So I came out here at LA in eighty nine. But I finally decided once I got back home got my group back together from my first mishap that we should get out of there. And that was like ninety two. My friend Wally, who the Crossroads was originally about, he got murdered breaking up another person's fight, you know what I'm saying. So when he got murdered, that's the year. That ninety nine for us was like the wild wild West. So you know, it was that summer Walley got murdered, and I'm like, man, we gotta get the fuck out of here, you know what I mean. So I had set a date November twenty third, nineteen ninety three. Wally got killed this summer of ninety two. So November twenty third, ninety three, we left Cleveland and one way but us tickets that whole story, you know, were selling weed. My brother bought the bus tickets, you know what I mean. He because he was playing ball in Alleghany, and then because he went to college and went to Alleghany while the rest of us were still on the block. Our plan was always for him to go to the NBA. And you know, he was a rapper and all that type of stuff, so we was thinking like that we're gonna become rappers. He gonna be in the NBA. We went to uh when we went out to well, he went out to California. That's when the bright idea came because he he he did it. He rapped against Uh. I forget which one of them was from Minutes Minutes to Society. I think it was the one that was came Yeah, I think, I think. I don't know which one it was, but uh, my brother ended up rapping against someone out here. So he called me on the pay phone back in Cleveland. Nigga's on the block, like, hey man, your brother on the phone. He like, man, I gotta get y'all out here because I just rap against this nigga and ate his ass up, you know what I'm saying. So that's when the plan went in the motion. So that was like ninety this summer of ninety two, well, my brother we graduated ninety two, so summer of ninety three the plan went into effect. By ninety November we was we left. So November to February, we was homeless. So homeless meaning that you know, we had my brother had a couple homeboys shout out to Big Mark who fi my nigga died Rest in peace and his family was from out here. Don's family, so they used to let us stay in they little shed. They had a little shed in the back where we rolled our wraps and shit at so at night we could stay in the shed. During the day, we just walking around and niggas just knew we wasn't from around. We was out there in Mansfield. Cript They like, hey, homie, if you gonna if you're gonna be out here, you're gonna claim something. I'm like, nah, nigga, we ain't gonna be here long. Like, nah, we ain't gonna do that because you know, we rap. It was like, well rap blood nigga. I'm like, but labit a minute. It put a niggaas you better go check mama. And they was like, oh yeah, I'm gonna take your over Tone Low House nigga. I know where he lived. And and then and that's when it all started coming together.

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Speaker 4: You know, well take us down that path because I read something that Tone Lok didn't really take to y'all off the rip.

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Speaker 5: I mean, we was filed though, now that I think about it, we was file as fuck. Man. We showed up the Tone Low House like at ten o'clock in the morning, you know, we just yeah, just niggas say they know where Tone Low lived. They point we just trying to get on. And I never knew how fire it was until it happened to me. Somebody walked up to my door like hey, lazy balling up, like, man, get you better get the fuck away from her dog. That's going on with you now. So Tom Loake come out the house. We knock it on the nigga door. He come out. He's smoking a blunt too. Loake's song him and him and some big goon nigga he had, and he come out and he like, we like, man, we rap, you know what I mean, Like we wanted, but he did take the time to listen to us. But don't you know, it was early in the morning. We walked up. We had a nigga door. He probably wasn't even eating breakfast. He wasn't finish his blunt because it was burning. And then yeah, we walked up to him, but you know, he really didn't remember it when I brought it to his attention, but he was like, I really couldn't do nothing for y'all. Anyway, y'all went the right way, you know what I mean. So we ironed that out. You know, I used to black Man that Nigga ain't put us on man. You know how when you're young, you're man. You just want to beyond, you don't You're not considerate of what other people may be going through.

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Speaker 1: You know when the.

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Speaker 4: First first word to come to mind when I mentioned some of your your group mates, busy, what's the first thing to come to mind?

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Speaker 1: Ah?

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Speaker 5: Wow, live wire, energy, wish, lieutenant at arms, soldier, you know, general flesh, intelligent, hmm uh, smart, brilliant, mhmm, yeah, no, he know a lot.

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Speaker 2: What would they say about you?

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Speaker 5: Oh, man, I'm just the glue. I'm the peacemaker, I'm the libra, I'm the skills of the situation.

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Speaker 4: What's the story of you being kidnapped or excuse me, busy being kidnap excuse me? And uh finding out through America's most wanted episode?

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Speaker 5: Well, you know what, I really don't you know, he really never talked about what happened to him, You know what I mean? Like, so Busy is from Columbus, Ohio. You know, so all that drama he went through, all that trauma, all everything he went through then was the days before us. He came to us. You know, I knew it was some family issues and all that. My mother took him in and was a friend of his dad's, you know what I mean. So how I met Busy was actually I met him in school first, because everybody was talking about this light skinned kid, you know, knew in school and blah blah blah. But my mom kept telling me, it's this little boy. I want you to meet this kid. I want you to meet that can sing and can rap. Because I was already doing my thing in Cleveland. I had we had a name. We was the Bandaid Boys. We was the band Aid Boys in junior high and we dominated everything. Then then we became Born Enterprise after that, and then we became born Thugs in Harmony. But uh, back to what you were saying about Busy, we didn't know all that, so we didn't you know, I didn't know none of that went on until the ship came on America's Most Warning because Busy had left tour. You know, so we've been through a lot of ups and downs. It's a lot of things that led to different things, you know, easy e dine Busy we left tour, you know, we was confused. We ain't had no mentors.

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Speaker 1: We ain't. You know.

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Speaker 5: It wasn't no blueprints, no game playing. Some niggas from the streets told and all kind of just doing all whatever money that allowed us to do, you know what I mean. But we was holding down. We still stayed business. But we had a foot in the streets too. So when Busy walked off tour and I had negotiated solo deals, you know what I mean, Busy and Crazy was ready. So put Busy album out, put Crazy album out, and put Flesh album out solo, and that's when everything was going good. And then you know, Easy passed away. We had the most ug family thing going and we were selling millions of records right there. And then Easy died, Busy left, and then the America's Most Wanted shit came on TV out of nowhere. Because I hadn't, I didn't know what b was going through. You know, it was personal demons, whatever whatever it may be. I always tried to understand, like what it was, because I looked at what God gave us. Remember, I had been shot the head, I had been in jail. I was the first nigga that to wear the handcuffs and behind bars in my generation of so I had learned all that shit early, so I was trying to understand busy. So when that happened, it was like we was fucking shocked, man, it was, you know. And then and B went on a rampage for another couple of years, and I never really we never really got to sit down and talk about, you know, those type of deep things in life. Life was moving so fast, man. We was shit. We was November twenty third, we went to California. February, we was with Easy E. Ninety four, Uh June Thuggish Ruggish Bone came out July we platinum. Uh shit, then skipped fast Ahead and out we on another album each nineteen ninety nine. We recording that motherfucker It's coming out, Bang bang bang. Easy E died. We only knew him for fifteen months in the flesh, you know what I'm saying. Like we was with him every day in the flesh for fifth like fifteen months, almost every day, and then he died, you know what I mean. So while all these things was happening, all these things was happening so fast, we never really so we was tight like this fist right, and then shit start happening, and the fists start loosening up, you know, the team start coming apart. Because the one that was protecting us Easy he did he did so the one he kept us away from everybody, he put us with, you know, the black Hole, the WATS and GBM, different people he felt that we can we could be comfortable around. But when he left, it was like it was us against uh uh presidents of the company and people that uh that Judges was putting in place, you know what I'm saying. So it was like Nigga was twenty one years old, went from welfare first of the month to this mother I could check three hundred eight four hundred thousand dollars, you know what I'm saying. So, like no guidance, no playbook. It's a wonder we're still here. But I didn't know that about Busy Bone. Back to your question, and that shit was a shock so much. But now I analyze in hindsight, like how fast things were moving.

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Speaker 3: A lot of people thinks he found y'all, but y'all started him out.

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Speaker 1: What's that story?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, we found easy eat Man.

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Speaker 2: Like when and what year was that?

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Speaker 5: This was nineteen ninety three, Okay, nineteen ninety three. So when we was on the block in nineteen ninety three preparing to leave, we was hustling. Okay, we leaving November twenty third. Our goal was to me Easy.

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Speaker 1: Oh you'd already had that play.

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Speaker 5: We was like because they were you know, the dog Pound Death Row. It was like always admired the CEO of the company, the the little j the Russell Simmons, you know what I mean. Like, so I'm day like, who you would you rather be with? Nigga Easy eat the underdog and we could outrap, we could outrap all these niggas. I'd rather be with Easy. So we sought out to look for Easy. Called him every day while we was in California, told everybody on the block, nigga, we gonna uh were going to meet Easy. And when we come back, we shooting the video and it's like, nigga, you ain't gonna beet No Easy met Easy came back to shoot the video, you know what I mean. So Cleveland was on fire. Everything we said we was gonna do.

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Speaker 4: What was his He's always known as from what we read in here, just the business mind and and someone that always had a vision. What was it like once you connected with him, and what kind of guidance he give y'all.

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Speaker 5: I mean, you would think from see we from back in the days, like fame was a lot more bigger, you know, like now everybody's we all on the internet, so it feel closer. But to be to meet an easy Eve from Cleveland, Ohio and back then, it was like a huge, huge thing, you know what I'm saying. So Easy he was like, you'll think, fuck the police and all that. But I really found out that he had a love for kids because my son was with me when I was out there homeless. My son was like a year two years old, maybe I had him with me, and Easy he would take him. And I noticed that, like he'd just come get come get him, take him to go get Pisa and shit like that. And you know, he was a humble kind ass man, you know what I mean, Like the type of nigga that to give his shoes to you off his feed, like you good, you know, the most important nigga in the room, always asks you are you okay? You need anything? That type of that type of mentality. So he was. He was a great human man and he was a real nigga. He stood up for you know, he told it like it was street reporting the same way we came and that's what we got it from street reporting. Talk about what you see in your life.

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Speaker 1: When he got stick. Is it true that he told was getting back together?

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Speaker 5: Oh, we knew they was getting back together. We was watching the phone calls. Shit, we was there. Uh, we was there with him and Cube talk. He like nigga. He like nigga. Y'all niggas can't fuck with me and my group. We like, man, we'll smash y'all old niggas like he like going on. He started wearing his braids back. He was in our group then, Yeah, you know what I mean for them last world months, Yeah, for the last few months he was. He was in bomb but yeah, man, he yeah he was. He was that nigga. Man, I forgot what the fuck We was just saying.

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Speaker 3: What was the process of making people want to come up for the love money and know the whole album, Like what kind of mold j'all was in because that's some classic ship. So y'all, you know, I know, when you're in the basketball, you gotta you're hitting shots like you go into a zone like that's one of them.

00:34:26
Speaker 1: When y'all making that album, Y're in the zone.

00:34:28
Speaker 5: So we we was in the zone because you know, you gotta think we was. We was a group ten years before we got it to Easy Eat. So we had material on top of material on top of material. You know, It's like when you when you go when ship, when you're going for your tryouts and ship like that, like you've been all your life, You've been in the gym, like nigga, I'm finished, show out, you know what I'm saying that That's what it was. We was prepared. We went in the studio, it was so much energy easy. He let us do whatever we wanted to do. He had put us with producers, you know, Yeller and all them producers that you know that soaked our vibe up.

00:35:20
Speaker 4: What was it like though, I mean, because in essence, what you told us was you basically went from homeless to platinum in about six months. I mean, that's absolutely insane. When you guys, was there a moment where you said, kind of, dann we made it? Was it that time when did you kind of feel like y'all had officially made your mark?

00:35:39
Speaker 5: So we after we finished the album, it was a little time period that we went back to Cleveland to get our lives settled because we didn't have nowhere to live and or none of that shit.

00:35:50
Speaker 1: So hold on. So you was making classic music, but still.

00:35:55
Speaker 5: We were still homeless. We was living in whatever hotel easy he put us in in or whatever house he put us in. But we was crazy. We kept getting put out of ship, you know what I'm saying.

00:36:07
Speaker 1: So trying to figure it out. So you been at home, got straight.

00:36:11
Speaker 5: We went home, and when I knew we was when we made it because we were still riding the bus. We called the bus to rt A in Cleveland. So we was on the rt A like I don't forgot where we was going, but we was on the r t A and the Nigga roll passing the Regal playing Thugish Ruggish Bomb. It was on the radio. We outter, We hanging out the bus window like Nigga, that's our song.

00:36:38
Speaker 4: That's the first time the radio, very first time we heard it on the radio.

00:36:42
Speaker 5: He on, He on Dayton's Regal t tops in that motherfucker. We on the bus like Nigga, that's our song. He like this ain't y'all niggas song that.

00:36:53
Speaker 1: Seem that seemed definitely got to be in the movie.

00:36:55
Speaker 5: Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, it's some golden moments in it for sure.

00:37:00
Speaker 3: Uh only artists to record with Biggie poking easy and pun to big Zach, give me a moment from being in the studio.

00:37:10
Speaker 1: Each one of them go Biggie first.

00:37:14
Speaker 5: Well, Biggie first, So Biggie, that whole situation was. That was a wild day. Man. It was the whole bad boy, the whole more Thug family.

00:37:24
Speaker 1: Everybody was.

00:37:25
Speaker 5: We was about fifty deep in the studio, in the room no bigger than this smoked out, smoked out dranking hennessy. You know that's when uh thug passion and all that ship was to drink yeah him, not mixed him nothing.

00:37:45
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah so we uh.

00:37:50
Speaker 5: Yeah, man, I that day I fell asleep and I went in the limo and fell asleep. So I had woke up out my sleeping and one time just ace my verse, you know what I mean, just dropped my ship. But I remember that session because Puffy Little Seas Stevie, j all my mo thug homeboys and I had came with a lot of weed that day and I, you know, set it on the count set it on the council when you go in, like ship, what y'all want, Let's get it going. You know, it's a nigga biggie. I catch him keep putting my weed in this pop he like he like, he like, yeah, he like your bones. I'm like, hey man, I'm like, man, quit putting my weed in your pocket beat man.

00:38:42
Speaker 1: But that was the.

00:38:44
Speaker 5: Funny part to me that I never forget about that session. I wasn't in the studio when Pop is his. Yeah, the first time I met Park, we was at the Park Hotel on uh somewhere off Sunset, And I'll never forget it because I went and bought uh a bens just like Park after I've seen him pull up on me the way he pulled up on me in the five double O Gas Black five double O Bens. I went and got a ruby Redwin but uh, yeah, he pulled up on me. Man, he had just got out too, and he was before we did the remix the Crossroads. He had just got out and he pulled up in front of the hotel. I'm like, Nigga, that's Pop. I'm telling my brother, like, Nigga, that's Pop. Like like so, I go over there. I'm like, Pop, where the weed at? He go up under his seat, grab a Philly box, put a bunch of weed in my hand, and shit. We go up to his room and it's the Outlaws bone like. That was my very first time meeting me man and he talked about the thug nation and putting this whole nationwide group to get other and all that ship and that was my first impression to Pop like he he was mastered playing and some ship.

00:40:08
Speaker 1: Groups groups.

00:40:10
Speaker 4: Tell me a little bit about each of these groups, Wang what they meant to you guys?

00:40:16
Speaker 5: I mean Wu Tang, you know what I mean. That's that's a group that Wu Tang is a group that we always can measure our level of success up to, you know what I mean, because it's brown about the same time. You know, uh, them all my dudes, now man, we had you know, we all grown ghost face method man, all of them Rizzard Like, we're all good now, you know what I mean. But we had a fight with them niggas one day at uh it was Russell Simmons Christmas party. We had a fight with them. We had and the reason why we grab grapping like a motherfucker. We was afraid. We was fighting fighting over what happened. Niggas wasn't no suckers. We wasn't neither though. We was in New York, so they had the upper hand on the nigga. But now what happened was we was Uh. We had did a song called Everyday Thing on the show soundtrack, and Russell Simmons was having a Christmas party Flesh and Bone had just signed he was moped up death Jam, so we was invited. We got there early. By the time we we was in that motherfucker with our shirts offt dance and turned up drinking. And by the time you know, they got there a little late and pushing was going on through the crowd. The niggas came in, pushing, pushing, pushing, pushed the wrong niggas started to fight. Bobbers got the flying niggas start running and jumping by bars, and then they never played our song that night until that fight broke out. I'll never forget it. It's an everyday thing when you let you not tng and uh, yeah, so we had you. That's who tanged man, that's my method. Man. He did save our life that night. Yeah, them were serious. Huh. Yeah, thats just serious, man. That's all I'm gonna say about that.

00:42:32
Speaker 1: Our cast.

00:42:35
Speaker 5: Man. I love our cast, I love I love Dre, I love I love them niggas man, I mean the most colorful group, another group of our genre of our in our era that we can measure ourselves up against the say we did pretty good, you know what I'm saying. So yeah, hat soft much respect to them. You know, I think Andre three thousand is one of the greatest hardest ever. You know big Boy too, you know what I mean with his pimp flow. So yeah, man, I love our cast. Run that's what we get it from. I started writing they wraps down like okay, you know what I mean. That's how it starts structuring ship just right, like remember they wrap catch it on the radio. You got catch it recorded, then you stop pause, write it down, stop pause writing down, So run demc them them the fathers y U GK man, you know got a pocket full of stars. Come on, man, you know what I mean way back when you know what I mean, like when I was on the block, pocket full of stones. UGK them was them niggas is part of my childhood in the way to where my money Carlo really really really really got a lot to beat up out of them, you know what I mean.

00:44:02
Speaker 4: So I Love You, GK ninety nine four times platinum, almost won the Grammy obviously Crossroads.

00:44:10
Speaker 2: What was y'all all?

00:44:11
Speaker 1: So you said that was dedicated to one of your homeboys.

00:44:13
Speaker 5: Yeah, my homeboy Wally, Yeah, good friend of mine, best friend.

00:44:19
Speaker 4: So that reaches number one on the top one hundred one Best Rap Performance a Duo in ninety seven at the Grammys.

00:44:25
Speaker 1: What was it like getting that first Grammy?

00:44:27
Speaker 5: I mean, shit, it was really it was. It wasn't even like a dream come true. It was like being inside of a dream, you know what I mean, like not really realizing the weight that that carried at the time, but just like we won a trophy, I mean, like getting that when you hoist that championship trophy, like you're still in the dream. But in hindsight, it was just like whoever, who would ever thought some kids and Cleveland ninety nine. Everybody said we couldn't do it. So we've been going against the grain the whole time, you know what I mean. So that that was the first solidification of well, you know, making it, then selling records, but then getting the accolade amongst your peers. It was a whole nother level, like, okay, now that's when I start thinking about a brand. It wasn't until the end it I even considered that we were a brand.

00:45:34
Speaker 1: Are you the one?

00:45:35
Speaker 4: The kind of that's what you were to the group kind of just seeing the vision in the future of everything behind the scenes on the business side.

00:45:44
Speaker 5: I think we all played the intricate part in seeing the vision, but I think I played more of the easy e role, you know what I'm saying, Like my job to me, my job was to always do the politic and like my verse, I had my verse done like crazy Bond to sit there and he'd come with some harmonies and mastermind the whole song. I had my shit together, boom boom boom. But I'm off to come talk to y'all so I can get this next play going for this next thing we got going. So that's that's me. So a lot of my flak, our fans even they called me. They they labeled me the glue, like, oh, you the glue because you know I've been there. But you know, I feel I feel like in a lot of ways, you know, I started this ship. So it's my duty to look after my brothers and whatever it takes, you know.

00:46:44
Speaker 4: Goddamn right, victorious thug. What was it like when that hit.

00:46:50
Speaker 5: Man? That shit, That shit was so huge, man, it was like it was a rebirth on a whole nother level, you know what I mean? Because for one, when we recorded the song, Biggie never did his verse that night he took the ship home. After he did, Busy did his, Crazy did his, then I did mine.

00:47:13
Speaker 1: Then it was.

00:47:14
Speaker 5: Probably like two in the morning. We all kicking it. He was like, yo, yoa, I'm gonna take this home. Were like, we tried to get him to do it. He was like no, So now we know why he took it home. He wasn't studied.

00:47:29
Speaker 1: But when it.

00:47:32
Speaker 2: Came out, though, that was the first time you heard it.

00:47:34
Speaker 1: When it came out, the.

00:47:35
Speaker 5: First time we heard it, Yeah, and he had he was dead. He passed away, so we didn't hear the complete song until after he passed. The song came out after he passed away, so to hear him come like he came, that was That's when New York started fucking with us, do you know. I mean, like before then we'd go do shows and we're probably sell out bb kings, but our crowds, like New York was hard on Cleveland rappers or other rappers period, you know what I'm saying. So the door, Yeah, that song kicked the dough in for us. Thank you, big, appreciate you.

00:48:18
Speaker 4: First of the Month, I mean still viral on social media. Playbo Cardi took a line from it. I mean, did you ever think that that song would do what it's done?

00:48:30
Speaker 5: I mean, ship the game did it to him and Chris Brown. We're having a celebration. Yeah, man, No, I mean that's just that was just our way of life. No, I mean the first of the month, that's what we're waiting on, you know what I mean, were waiting to re up, We waiting put the food on the grill. It's like that was a holiday back then, back when, Yeah, you know what I mean, Like that's that's when we grew up knowing like it's different now, but back then, you know that government assistance sometimes that was the only way we ate. And then when the crack everydemic came through, this show the nigga how to double that. So it's like yeah, yeah, but the first of the money, I think is always gonna be relevant because you get a paycheck on the first of the money.

00:49:25
Speaker 4: You know, when you sit back today, and as athletes were always programmed to just what's next, what's next? I'm sure and your profession is similar when you sit back now and kind of look back on your journey and dudes from Cleveland off the block and what you've been able to accomplish, from the accolades to the millions and millions apart, millions of record sos. Legends're gonna be inducted to the Hall of Fame soon. Like what do you think.

00:49:50
Speaker 5: Well, I'm gonna stick. I'm gonna stick to entertainment, you know what I mean. I think I think entertainment as far as movies. You know what I mean. I'm a writer, so I write scripts, I write poetry, and you know, and my life is basically based around being creative writing and you know, coming up with different ideas and you know, so my future is looking like I'm dabbling in everything, man, you know what I mean. I got the first of the month's script movie written down, seventy one script written one called ball and written. So producing my own music, music, movies, my own clothes, clothing, lazy gear. You know, my last name is house, so I make house shoes. I started to come in my house shoes and house coach today, but I would freak y'all out. Next time. I'm gonna bring y'all something. And I did get some gifts for y'all. What you got as far as uh bomb dougs and harmony merchandise. We appreciate big niggas. I don't know, yo, mo back.

00:51:10
Speaker 1: To hang it on the wall.

00:51:11
Speaker 2: There you go, Jack, Thank you.

00:51:15
Speaker 5: I don't know exactly what's saying, and I just stuff and real quick.

00:51:20
Speaker 1: To appreciate you. All right. We got quick hitters. First thing to come to mind, oh ship, and so we got one for you too, Smoke Drip the smoke Drip.

00:51:33
Speaker 5: I got books and everything.

00:51:36
Speaker 2: Quick hitters, first thing to come to mind.

00:51:39
Speaker 4: Let us know your thoughts. Who are your top five rap groups of all time?

00:51:45
Speaker 5: Rap groups run DMC, Beastie Boys, Ghetto Boys, n W A Damn. It's a split between Public Enemy and Boogie Down productions. So you know I had one of them. Got to share.

00:52:14
Speaker 1: One one album that you can listen to with no skips.

00:52:20
Speaker 5: East nineteen ninety ninety to Chronic was our cast first album. Yeah, sir, Yeah that one, that couple of Wayne's, couple of t I's. Man, you know, it's some classics out here.

00:52:45
Speaker 2: I was talking to somebody the other day.

00:52:46
Speaker 4: They forgot how cold Tiya was shocking Jaman and Ship today that she woke me up.

00:52:51
Speaker 5: T I one of my favorite artists too.

00:52:54
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a good question. Who is some of your favorite artists?

00:52:57
Speaker 5: Oh? Man, the ship all time? You know we gonna Michael Jackson from Old School Man new addition, you know what I mean ship If we're talking about last couple of decades, Lil Wayne, t I, I got independent artists that I really like, Like Dizzy right, my nephew. I really get into his shitty from the heart man, it's it's I love music, really like every genre of music. I really get into it. And I and I and I take elements from everywhere.

00:53:41
Speaker 4: Your childhood crush, your child who's your who's your childhood crush? Ah man, or maybe when you first got in the game, you're like, damn, I got to meet her.

00:53:53
Speaker 5: Damn. I don't know shit. I think everybody say, Holly Berry, huh, everybody say that.

00:54:01
Speaker 4: We'll need to give us a list that's a safe ony. Uh, five dinner guests U plus five people dead are alive?

00:54:07
Speaker 1: Who's coming to your table?

00:54:09
Speaker 5: Mm hmm coming to my table outside of your group?

00:54:12
Speaker 2: Okay, outside excluded?

00:54:15
Speaker 5: Get uh, let me see that I need to talk to Uh. I want to talk to Barack Obama. He gotta come to dinner. I need Lebrin at the table that's home. Yeah, probably want to talk to Malcolm and Martin that's four. And then put a little bit of Jesus in there and let me see what he got, what he got to say about this, this unification at the dinner table, this next supper.

00:54:54
Speaker 3: Yeah, if you can see one guest on our show, who would it be?

00:54:58
Speaker 1: But you have to help us get your answer on our show.

00:55:02
Speaker 4: So somebody you know that you want to see on our show and you're gonna hit him up and tell him, like, yo, I just did this show.

00:55:07
Speaker 1: You come.

00:55:07
Speaker 2: You should come fuck with them too.

00:55:09
Speaker 5: I don't know. Y'all have had so many folks on Fat Joe. Y'all seen y'all talk to Fat Joe.

00:55:16
Speaker 1: Yeah, Joe had some stories.

00:55:18
Speaker 5: Joe be fucking up stories, y'all see Joe, Lady, my uncle Georgia, my uncle georgia'all yeah.

00:55:29
Speaker 1: The whole song.

00:55:30
Speaker 5: But yeah, man, but Joe, I go back with Joe so far, you know, I mean like since the beginning of the Relativity days when when he first signed we was in his first video Dope. Yeah. So yeah, man, Joe, he them stories. He gotta be real as the nigga been everywhere.

00:55:50
Speaker 2: Finish it up?

00:55:55
Speaker 1: Finished?

00:55:56
Speaker 2: Oh I'm tripping them high. Yeah we finished?

00:56:00
Speaker 1: Is it? Man?

00:56:01
Speaker 4: We appreciate you coming through today. Best of luck with everything. If you need us for anything and any promotion anything, you know, man, we're huge.

00:56:07
Speaker 1: Yeah, Jack act I didn't want to throw it out there. I want to water.

00:56:11
Speaker 5: Yeah.

00:56:12
Speaker 1: So all them scripts you got if you need something.

00:56:15
Speaker 2: Yeah, what kind of role would you play?

00:56:17
Speaker 1: It don't even matter, sucker. I can't.

00:56:24
Speaker 3: Talk to a lot of people in the in the music, I mean in the acting business. Said try to pick roles that's closer to you. So I can't play no, sucker. He said, he got a.

00:56:33
Speaker 1: Roll for your cat.

00:56:35
Speaker 5: We can't do no sucking shot at all, at all, none. Zero. I got a cold uncle roll for you.

00:56:42
Speaker 3: Yeah, come on, man, uncle fire ready.

00:56:46
Speaker 1: I'm already with it. So finishing off real man.

00:56:51
Speaker 4: We appreciate you, man, congratulations the success, amazing career, new music, your a legend.

00:56:56
Speaker 2: It was the honor for you to sit down with us today.

00:56:58
Speaker 5: Man, so best of luck, and I just want to say, uh, the Bone album is coming soon, you know, the Bone Thug the Bible Basic Constructions before leaving Earth, and uh, my new solo record is called Dash the dashing between your death day, your birthday and your death day at the time, I'm talking about life, so you know, keep supporting Bone Thugs and harmony. I appreciate y'all for having me.

00:57:23
Speaker 4: Man.

00:57:24
Speaker 5: Y'all some real g's appreciate you and I love you know, being able to intertwine with the realist and appreciate that. And I hope I gave y'all all the smoke.

00:57:34
Speaker 1: We appreciate it. That's Lazy Bone on all the Smoke.

00:57:37
Speaker 4: You can catch this on All the Smoke Productions YouTube and the Draft Kings Network.

00:57:42
Speaker 2: We'll see all that sweet.

00:57:50
Speaker 3: Mm hmm

00:58:01
Speaker 2: Fo