Bigfoot Encounters And Experiences In Oklahoma! (The Kiamichi River Southeastern Oklahoma!)

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On this episode of Sasquatch Theory, Steve shares his Bigfoot encounters and experiences from the Kiamichi River! The Kiamichi National Forest has been a hotspot for Bigfoot Activity! Oklahoma is still to this day Native American territory with many cryptid and supernatural legends! I believe these creatures are here because of the vast forests, waterways, and abundance of wildlife! Steve was very excited to discuss his experiences and seemed to be adamant about what he experienced! Steve wrote a book about his experiences called Breakfast with Bigfoot!

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<v Speaker 1>Hey guys, and welcome to another Sasquatch Theory podcast. On
<v Speaker 1>this episode, we have Steve from Oklahoma and he had
<v Speaker 1>several bigfoot encounters and experiences in the Kaimichi National Forest.
<v Speaker 1>I have heard a lot of reports from the Kaimichi
<v Speaker 1>National Forest and it seems like it's a great place
<v Speaker 1>to look for bigfoot. There are some researchers here in
<v Speaker 1>Missouri that travel to the area looking for sasquatch creatures
<v Speaker 1>and they claim they've had some encounters and experiences themselves,
<v Speaker 1>and this place could possibly be loaded with these creatures.
<v Speaker 1>If you have had a bigfoot encounter in Oklahoma that
<v Speaker 1>you would like to share with me, please contact me
<v Speaker 1>sometime at Sasquatch Theory at outlook dot com. All right, guys,
<v Speaker 1>let's dive into Steve's bigfoot encounters from the state of Oklahoma.
<v Speaker 1>All right, Steve, welcome Sasquatch Theory. How are you doing today.
<v Speaker 2>I'm doing great, Thank you. How are you doing tonight?
<v Speaker 1>I'm doing pretty good. Thanks for asking, Steve if you
<v Speaker 1>would tell me a little bit about yourself and your
<v Speaker 1>big fit encounters and experiences from the very beginning. Please.
<v Speaker 2>All right, Well, my name is Steve Britt and I
<v Speaker 2>travel a lot. I've been up to Washington, lived up
<v Speaker 2>there for ten years or so and had an experience
<v Speaker 2>up there. I've lived in Florida for like thirty years
<v Speaker 2>and had an experience there. And I've lived in Oklahoma
<v Speaker 2>for about I'll see, I guess that only leaves about
<v Speaker 2>twelve years. As a kid, I was there from you know,
<v Speaker 2>until I was like ten, and then me and my mom,
<v Speaker 2>after my dad passed away, moved to Washington. But when
<v Speaker 2>I was a kid, we went camping a lot and
<v Speaker 2>that type of stuff, but never really had a Bigfoot
<v Speaker 2>experience in Oklahoma when I was a kid, But I did,
<v Speaker 2>you know, of course, got interested in Bigfoot with this
<v Speaker 2>is back in the seventies for them fifty five now,
<v Speaker 2>and you know, the legends of your Body Creek and
<v Speaker 2>that type of stuff and a few other a few
<v Speaker 2>other stories got me interested. I'm not really sure if
<v Speaker 2>it was before or after I watched the movies and
<v Speaker 2>read stories and books about Bigfoot that I had my dreams.
<v Speaker 2>But I had a reoccurring dream where I'm like walking
<v Speaker 2>across this big green field and out of the other
<v Speaker 2>side of the field comes a big, tall, brown creature
<v Speaker 2>Bigfoot and seize me and starts heading for me, you know,
<v Speaker 2>and there of course scared the poop out of me,
<v Speaker 2>and I wake up just like to do. And I
<v Speaker 2>had that dream more than once, and that got me
<v Speaker 2>brilli intrigued, you know, and interested in Bigfoot. So from
<v Speaker 2>there on, I was always watching the the you know,
<v Speaker 2>in search of stuff, you know, with Leonard Demoy and
<v Speaker 2>the the Lockness Monster, all that kind of stuff. I
<v Speaker 2>was interested in all that stuff, but mainly Bigfoot. Bigfoot
<v Speaker 2>always was like intrigued me the most. And when I
<v Speaker 2>was a kid, you know, my da, like I said,
<v Speaker 2>my dad passed away, and about nineteen eighty we moved
<v Speaker 2>to Washington State and my aunt and uncle had about
<v Speaker 2>fifteen acres up in the Olympic National Rainforest, and my
<v Speaker 2>mom bought a couple acres off of them and we
<v Speaker 2>cleared it and put a mobile home on it. And
<v Speaker 2>that took, you know, that touch a couple of months
<v Speaker 2>to get all that done. In the meantime, we stayed
<v Speaker 2>in their house, and when the mobile home was finally done,
<v Speaker 2>we got to move into it and move into our area,
<v Speaker 2>which was on the other side of the fifteen acres
<v Speaker 2>lots of woods. I mean you could. I could walk
<v Speaker 2>out my back door and go hiking half a day,
<v Speaker 2>turn around and come back and never hit a fence.
<v Speaker 2>It was awesome out there, and giant trees, big as
<v Speaker 2>you can imagine. And one night, probably maybe a month
<v Speaker 2>after we moved in, I'm sleeping the dogs are We
<v Speaker 2>had German ships out of their doghouses. That was just
<v Speaker 2>just like it was like a loud whale moaning and
<v Speaker 2>nothing like I ever heard, you know, I've been I've
<v Speaker 2>heard coyotes, I've heard mountain lions, I've heard just about
<v Speaker 2>everything out there, bobcats and she you know, and had
<v Speaker 2>run in is with most of the stuff too, And
<v Speaker 2>that was just freaked me out. It was a loud,
<v Speaker 2>moaning whale and then it ended in like a high
<v Speaker 2>pinched I can't even explain it, like a high pitched whealing,
<v Speaker 2>like it was mad, like or maybe something smaller was
<v Speaker 2>with it, and like they were mad that we were
<v Speaker 2>on there her or something because we had to clear
<v Speaker 2>an acre out. And I mean, it scared me so bad.
<v Speaker 2>I ended up going to sleeping in my mom's bedroom
<v Speaker 2>and that was pretty wicked, I thought, you know, and
<v Speaker 2>I never really heard much anything else about it or
<v Speaker 2>any more sounds or anything like that, and looks for signs.
<v Speaker 2>I always went hiking, but of course you never go
<v Speaker 2>out at night. I live by that rule when you're
<v Speaker 2>in the mountains in the woods, don't go messing around
<v Speaker 2>at night, you know, of course, And of course you
<v Speaker 2>hear older people say, don't go messing around at night
<v Speaker 2>because the burgers will get you. And so, you know,
<v Speaker 2>if I did anything at night, it was with somebody,
<v Speaker 2>and it was just to walk between my place and
<v Speaker 2>our place and my aunt's place to go visit my
<v Speaker 2>cousins and stuff, you know, that type of stuff, and
<v Speaker 2>or we'd meet halfway. Something like that. Well, not really
<v Speaker 2>didn't really even have too much of an experience. We
<v Speaker 2>found some cool stuff. One time we was out hiking
<v Speaker 2>and there was just this through the woods. There was
<v Speaker 2>this hole that looked like somebody took a giant six
<v Speaker 2>foot cannonball and just shot it through the woods and
<v Speaker 2>it was just a hole through the woods, through the
<v Speaker 2>forest as far as you could see. We followed it
<v Speaker 2>for half a day and it didn't end when we
<v Speaker 2>came back. It was probably deer, you know, maybe my
<v Speaker 2>grating or something like that, which was still pretty cool,
<v Speaker 2>but normally you had to chop your way through the
<v Speaker 2>woods and through this thing, we just had a huge
<v Speaker 2>hole that was tall in the center of it. At
<v Speaker 2>all well, I left out of park. So when my
<v Speaker 2>dad first passed away, my mom took me and my
<v Speaker 2>brother and my sister on a road trip to see
<v Speaker 2>all of our relatives. And this was in Washington. At
<v Speaker 2>the time. We lived in Oklahoma, and at the time
<v Speaker 2>we were in Oklahoma, and we flew to Washington and my
<v Speaker 2>grandma and grandpa were caretakers at a National park in
<v Speaker 2>a lake which was called Horseshoe Lake up in Washington State,
<v Speaker 2>and that was really neat. Being ten years old and
<v Speaker 2>going up there for the first time and seeing all
<v Speaker 2>that that was really neat. So I had pretty much
<v Speaker 2>run of the park after the park closed down, and
<v Speaker 2>one day my grandparents' friends came over and got us
<v Speaker 2>and they're like, we got something to show you that
<v Speaker 2>you're really gonna love. And they were actually park rangers
<v Speaker 2>at the other side of the parks the National park
<v Speaker 2>at another labor and we all jumped in the back
<v Speaker 2>of the truck to the back. Then we could ride
<v Speaker 2>in the back of pickup trusts and stuff, and don't
<v Speaker 2>be a deal. We all jumped in the back of
<v Speaker 2>the truck and we took about, I don't know, a
<v Speaker 2>five mile ride down a dirt road and then another
<v Speaker 2>maybe mile hike down down a path trail, and we've
<v Speaker 2>got to this park where these trees maybe stick hit
<v Speaker 2>stick or more trees pine trees about higher than I
<v Speaker 2>could reach at the time. At that high, they were
<v Speaker 2>just twisted and they were all laid down in like
<v Speaker 2>a rectangle with a whole bunch of with the branches
<v Speaker 2>shaved off and put across like beds, and these were
<v Speaker 2>like seven eight foot beds. There was a couple of them,
<v Speaker 2>which was really neat. We didn't really we didn't see
<v Speaker 2>any tracks or anything because of the pine needles and
<v Speaker 2>stuff covered the ground, so you didn't really see any indents.
<v Speaker 2>They just pushed down and fluffed back up like a sponge.
<v Speaker 2>But that was really neat. And we went back and
<v Speaker 2>I didn't really see anything anymore after that, but that
<v Speaker 2>really got me going after that, And then after we
<v Speaker 2>went back to Oklahoma, my mom was like, how would
<v Speaker 2>you like to move to Washington come back up to
<v Speaker 2>that area and I'm like, oh, yeah, that would be awesome,
<v Speaker 2>you know. After that, and that's when we moved back
<v Speaker 2>up there. Well, when I was about fifteen sixteen, me
<v Speaker 2>and my friend Mary, we got a canoe. There was
<v Speaker 2>this lake and it's called Three Fingers Lake. One looked
<v Speaker 2>like something off I think it was Friday the thirteenth
<v Speaker 2>or Halloween lake that had all these little stumps poking
<v Speaker 2>up out of it. It was really creepy, and then
<v Speaker 2>you would go across it to this one spot and
<v Speaker 2>then you would have to like drag your canoe over
<v Speaker 2>logs and everything, and you get back to the second lake,
<v Speaker 2>which was kind of nicer, not as creepy, and then
<v Speaker 2>you'd get back to the third one and it was
<v Speaker 2>just a beautiful lake with no logs or anything. There's
<v Speaker 2>a giant beaver damn on it. A big eagle was
<v Speaker 2>up on this neft on the top of a tree,
<v Speaker 2>and there was this little jetty that poked out and
<v Speaker 2>we set up camp on it, and our friends were
<v Speaker 2>supposed to meet south there later on that evening before dark.
<v Speaker 2>It was supposed to be there before dark, but they
<v Speaker 2>ended up not being there before dark, and it was
<v Speaker 2>so quiet out there. We told them, you know, when
<v Speaker 2>you get there, just home with the horn and we'll
<v Speaker 2>come back across the ditch. And but we were expecting
<v Speaker 2>this to be in the daytime and not after dark.
<v Speaker 2>They go across these lakes in a canoe and some
<v Speaker 2>went down, and we're looking at each other's like where
<v Speaker 2>are these these where are these guys at? And they, uh, Finally,
<v Speaker 2>you know, after you know, about an hour or two
<v Speaker 2>into darkness, we heard the horn hank and we're like,
<v Speaker 2>all right, we got to do this. So we get
<v Speaker 2>back in the canoe and we head back. First, you know,
<v Speaker 2>the lake we was on was so nice, it was
<v Speaker 2>no big deal. We get back to the second lake
<v Speaker 2>and we're in the middle of this lake and all
<v Speaker 2>of a sudden, not ten from and there was bog
<v Speaker 2>on top of the lake as well. So Mary was
<v Speaker 2>in the front guiding me so we didn't hit any
<v Speaker 2>stumper logs or anything like that. As I'm rolling the
<v Speaker 2>canoe and steering not ten feet from the canoe, we
<v Speaker 2>hear this like a big old flat rock just splash,
<v Speaker 2>hit the hit the water, and we looked at each
<v Speaker 2>other with the biggest white eyes like, holy bolly, he
<v Speaker 2>is going on tell them, what the heck that could
<v Speaker 2>be like throwing a rock for fish, And so we're
<v Speaker 2>a little tense and we keep going across it. Next
<v Speaker 2>thing we know what happened to begin. We call them
<v Speaker 2>kirk plunks. This is the kerk plunk story. And it
<v Speaker 2>happened maybe five times on that lake. And then we
<v Speaker 2>get on the first lake that we've got on, you know,
<v Speaker 2>to come out there where he's going to pick them
<v Speaker 2>up on the other side of the lake, and it
<v Speaker 2>didn't happen near the which was weird. And when we
<v Speaker 2>got into the middle of the lake, it was even closer.
<v Speaker 2>I mean, it was like five six people, but we
<v Speaker 2>couldn't see it because of the fog on top of
<v Speaker 2>the mist on top of the lake. We couldn't even
<v Speaker 2>see the water, couldn't see the splashes. We just heard them.
<v Speaker 2>Scared the proof out of us. So we get back.
<v Speaker 2>I mean, that happened like ten times across that lake.
<v Speaker 2>And we get back to pick our friends up and
<v Speaker 2>we're telling them about this and they're like, yeah, you
<v Speaker 2>guys are callucidting and you know, there's no way that
<v Speaker 2>could happen, and we're like absolutely, I'm like, you guys, wait, here,
<v Speaker 2>I'm going back to my house real fast, and I'm
<v Speaker 2>going to get my pistol and I'll be right back.
<v Speaker 2>So got back. We all loaded up in the canoe
<v Speaker 2>going back across, and sure enough, towards the middle of
<v Speaker 2>the lake or splash and the one guy about tip
<v Speaker 2>this over and move like it's scared him so bad.
<v Speaker 2>And then Alan grabs Bill paulsing back down, you know,
<v Speaker 2>to sit down, like sit down before you kill us
<v Speaker 2>at continue. So we were luckily going across both those
<v Speaker 2>makes where we were camping at it, and it didn't
<v Speaker 2>happen in a certainly, which was weird, and we camped
<v Speaker 2>overnight and that type of stuff, and then went home
<v Speaker 2>went home the next day. But we never really we
<v Speaker 2>never knew what the heck was doing then, you know,
<v Speaker 2>maybe beaver beaver tail splashing their tail to warn other beaver,
<v Speaker 2>you know that we were on the where they were
<v Speaker 2>trying to scare us off or something like that or
<v Speaker 2>something still in rock sets, but nothing really messed with us.
<v Speaker 2>And of course we had alcohol and stuff, so even
<v Speaker 2>if something wasn't gonna mess with us, we probably wouldn't
<v Speaker 2>have noticed because we were too drunk by the time
<v Speaker 2>we went to sleep, just passed out. But that was
<v Speaker 2>a pretty wicked experience right there, and we but theyll
<v Speaker 2>never really saw anything or hurt maybe. I moved back
<v Speaker 2>to Oklahoma and stayed there for like a year. Didn't
<v Speaker 2>really had to work all the time, so it didn't
<v Speaker 2>really do much, and then moved to Florida. And it
<v Speaker 2>was about thirty years before I retired and decided to
<v Speaker 2>hit the road. Bottom Motorcycle packed it up. Had a
<v Speaker 2>best the eleven hundred sports touring bike that had like
<v Speaker 2>a seven point five gallon tank the three hundred mile
<v Speaker 2>range and it was pretty neat. It was like a
<v Speaker 2>little bit smaller than a gold Wing, but it was awesome.
<v Speaker 2>And I went around Florida for a few years and
<v Speaker 2>camped all over the place. First started out with state
<v Speaker 2>parks and then went to preserves and that type of stuff.
<v Speaker 2>And I was a just preserved called Flying Eagle Preserve
<v Speaker 2>in the swamps up in northern Florida, and I was
<v Speaker 2>there for about three weeks and one night I woke
<v Speaker 2>up about four o'clock in the morning and there were
<v Speaker 2>pebbles hitting my tent, like every twenty seconds a pebble
<v Speaker 2>had hit my tent. And rolled out the same spot
<v Speaker 2>and rhythmic, you know, every twenty seconds. I wasn't underneath
<v Speaker 2>a tree, so there wasn't anything falling from the tree.
<v Speaker 2>Everybody says all it was probably a squirrel. Squirrels aren't
<v Speaker 2>out at four o'clock in the morning for one And
<v Speaker 2>I laid there for another thirty minutes to listen, then
<v Speaker 2>didn't hear anything else doesn't happen, and then finally these back
<v Speaker 2>and offer woke up in the morning and didn't rain.
<v Speaker 2>It was dry as a bone, and there was this
<v Speaker 2>huge wet spot by my tent. It was big, a
<v Speaker 2>big wet spot, probably a good three foot sir, you
<v Speaker 2>know across, and there was a stick in the middle
<v Speaker 2>of it. And I'm like, you know, that's kind of odd.
<v Speaker 2>There's just a wet spot right there and nowhere else
<v Speaker 2>is what and there's it's not underneath the tree or anything.
<v Speaker 2>Picked up that stick and I smelt it to see
<v Speaker 2>what kind of liquid was, and it was like some
<v Speaker 2>swizz right beside. Whatever it was was big because it
<v Speaker 2>beat a lot, and that was like, this is awesome.
<v Speaker 2>I can't wait because I'm gonna stay here or another
<v Speaker 2>you know, I've got another three four weeks that I'm
<v Speaker 2>gonna stay there, so if this is happening, I can't
<v Speaker 2>wait to see what's gonna happen, you know. And then
<v Speaker 2>over the next couple of weeks, well two days later,
<v Speaker 2>it is when COVID stuff started and all of a sudden,
<v Speaker 2>get an email. When I was I was in town,
<v Speaker 2>took my bike in town to get a Hamburger, and
<v Speaker 2>I got an email in town saying that all of
<v Speaker 2>my reservations at the Flying Acre Preserved was canceled. And
<v Speaker 2>I was so bummed. It's like, whoa, due to COVID,
<v Speaker 2>you have to go back to the city, Like you
<v Speaker 2>gotta be kidding me. I don't want to go back
<v Speaker 2>to the city. And they closed down every state park,
<v Speaker 2>every preserve, anywhere to camp, all everybody's camping everything in
<v Speaker 2>the state of Florida. They closed them down. They shut
<v Speaker 2>them down. And I talked to the park ranger when
<v Speaker 2>I got back out there, and I asked him about,
<v Speaker 2>you know, is there any bears they see any cougars,
<v Speaker 2>panthers out there? And He's like, sure, they're out here,
<v Speaker 2>but you're not going to see them. You're not gonna
<v Speaker 2>You're not going to come around your camp and I
<v Speaker 2>told him about the big pea spot. He looked at
<v Speaker 2>me like that I was wacky. So I'm right, okay,
<v Speaker 2>well whatever. I talked to him about the reservations. He's like, Nope,
<v Speaker 2>everybody's got to go. We're locking the gates, not letting
<v Speaker 2>anybody in. And it's like, well, that's kind of lame. Oh,
<v Speaker 2>So I decided. Then my brother lived in Oklahoma, Oklahoma City,
<v Speaker 2>and so I made the decision. I'm like, you know,
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna get out of Florida then, and I'm going
<v Speaker 2>to Oklahoma. So I packed all my stuff up, went
<v Speaker 2>to town and told my brother. And in September, we
<v Speaker 2>were outriding ATVs and I busted my foot in my
<v Speaker 2>ankle and I couldn't ride, you know, and that was
<v Speaker 2>stuck there. So I'm like, well, poop. So I sold
<v Speaker 2>my motorcycle and I bought a little Chevy Tracker, this
<v Speaker 2>four wheel drive, and I put you know, I rebuilt it,
<v Speaker 2>got some big tires and put it on it. And
<v Speaker 2>I was like, well, if I can't ride my motorcycle,
<v Speaker 2>then I'm going to go explore in Oklahoma with my
<v Speaker 2>you know, with a four wheel drive and something just
<v Speaker 2>kept go to Southeast Oklahoma. Where's my mind? I'm con gym.
<v Speaker 2>So I'm just like, you know, I'm going to go
<v Speaker 2>to Oklahoma. And I found this garment garment explorer that
<v Speaker 2>had gpx's that had sixteen hundred miles or more of
<v Speaker 2>dirt roads that circumnavigated Oklahoma. So I'm like, all right,
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna I'm going to hit all the dirt roads
<v Speaker 2>as many as I can. And I did, you know,
<v Speaker 2>northern Oklahoma. I did a little bit of eastern Oklahoma.
<v Speaker 2>I did some southwest Oklahoma and northwest Oklahoma. Was this
<v Speaker 2>desert and stand due and something like that. That's no,
<v Speaker 2>there's no point in going there. So the last area
<v Speaker 2>to explore was southeast Oklahoma. So I went down there
<v Speaker 2>and stayed at this Kyamichi let's see, the Kiamechi River campground.
<v Speaker 2>I stayed there for a few weeks and I checked
<v Speaker 2>out some areas and I found about, I don't know,
<v Speaker 2>it was about eight or nine mountains out there, maybe
<v Speaker 2>well over hundred thousand acres. That was just It used
<v Speaker 2>to be a national park back in the early nineteen hundreds,
<v Speaker 2>but his family bought it and they owned every bit
<v Speaker 2>of property out there other than this log and company,
<v Speaker 2>which actually the log and company leased it from this
<v Speaker 2>other company, and it was all private property, so I
<v Speaker 2>couldn't really just go out there and trespass and take
<v Speaker 2>all the dirt roads that I that I mapped out,
<v Speaker 2>and so I went back to my brother's house for
<v Speaker 2>about a month and I started a plan to get
<v Speaker 2>out there, you know. So first thing, I started looking
<v Speaker 2>for some property for sale out there, and I found
<v Speaker 2>forty acres right smack dab in the middle of those
<v Speaker 2>mount the Realer God Company, and they're like, apsolutely, go
<v Speaker 2>look at that forty acres, but you know, you're on
<v Speaker 2>your own to go look at it. We're not going
<v Speaker 2>to go out there with to get there, I'm like,
<v Speaker 2>they're like, and other people owned the property, so you
<v Speaker 2>got to get permission from them as well to cross
<v Speaker 2>their property because it was landmarks. So I found they.
<v Speaker 2>I did some research and I found the company that
<v Speaker 2>owned all the property. I got a hold of them
<v Speaker 2>and they're like, well, we leased it out to this
<v Speaker 2>logging company. Gave me the phone number to talk to them.
<v Speaker 2>I call them, and this country lady that was sweet
<v Speaker 2>as could be. I was talking to her and I'm like, well,
<v Speaker 2>I found forty acres of it out there, but I
<v Speaker 2>got across your property to get to it, you know.
<v Speaker 2>And she's like, well, that's okay. She's like, I'll let
<v Speaker 2>them know that you're going to be out there, and
<v Speaker 2>told it the it's a lot of driving, and she's like,
<v Speaker 2>that is not a problem, you know. And then I
<v Speaker 2>found the family that owned the rest of the properties
<v Speaker 2>and I had to cross their properties as well. I
<v Speaker 2>got a hold of them and they were they were
<v Speaker 2>nice as could be too, and they're like absolutely, you know.
<v Speaker 2>They're they're like a stick to the roads, don't go exploring,
<v Speaker 2>you know, don't go where you're not supposed to be.
<v Speaker 2>Gave me good advice, and I said absolutely, I'm just
<v Speaker 2>going out there to look at that property and I
<v Speaker 2>need to cross your guys's property. So and they're like, well,
<v Speaker 2>when you get out there, there's a man at the
<v Speaker 2>top of the hill with a big at the iron gate,
<v Speaker 2>and if that iron gates closed, you just let him
<v Speaker 2>know if for you to go out there, and you
<v Speaker 2>shouldn't be out there. So I had written permission to
<v Speaker 2>go out there. So I'm like I'm in, I'm gonna
<v Speaker 2>go out there and explore every inch of this there.
<v Speaker 2>I don't care. And so I went back out to
<v Speaker 2>the Kayamichi Kai Eats You River Campground and reserved the
<v Speaker 2>spot for three weeks out there, and from there I
<v Speaker 2>started going. First, I went to the kaim Etsy Wilderness
<v Speaker 2>Community and started driving through there. Didn't really find anybody
<v Speaker 2>to talk to until, like I don't know, maybe five
<v Speaker 2>days in. After it'sploring a bunch of roads and stuff.
<v Speaker 2>I come down this one road and it wasn't really
<v Speaker 2>a road that was I mean, you couldn't go down
<v Speaker 2>it with a normal car. And there's like this little cabin.
<v Speaker 2>So I'm there, pretty good, how you do it? He's like, well,
<v Speaker 2>pretty good. He's like I can't believe there's somebody out here.
<v Speaker 2>He's like, nobody comes out here. You're actually the first
<v Speaker 2>visitor i've hat out here. Ever. I'm like, well that's great.
<v Speaker 2>I said, I've been out here for five days looking
<v Speaker 2>for somebody to talk to. He's like, well, it's probably
<v Speaker 2>it's about normal. And he actually was only there for
<v Speaker 2>a few months year. He lived in Texas, and I
<v Speaker 2>just caught him at the right time and he's like, well,
<v Speaker 2>come on and have a beer, you know, and I
<v Speaker 2>had to sit down. Let's let's talk if you've got time,
<v Speaker 2>and I'm like absolutely, so I don't go have a
<v Speaker 2>go sit by the fire. And he's going to bring
<v Speaker 2>me a beer, but I'm like, I don't really drink beer,
<v Speaker 2>but if you got whiskey or something like that, I
<v Speaker 2>don't mind sifting some whiskey. He's like absolutely, So he
<v Speaker 2>brings out a little bottle of Jack Daniels and a
<v Speaker 2>few cups and like, right on, that's that's my stuff.
<v Speaker 2>And when we start talking and I get to the question,
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, so, have you seen anything weird around here?
<v Speaker 2>And he's like, well, what do you mean by weird?
<v Speaker 2>I said, well, have you seen like any bigfoot or
<v Speaker 2>any activity like that out here? He's like, well, I'm
<v Speaker 2>glad that you mentioned because I've been dying to tell
<v Speaker 2>people about it. He said yes. He's like, I've got
<v Speaker 2>something that comes through every morning or my barrel that
<v Speaker 2>they got out here, and I just I mean, it's
<v Speaker 2>to the point now I just say good morning, you know,
<v Speaker 2>to whatever it is, and then go back to sleep
<v Speaker 2>and don't hear anything else the rest of the morning.
<v Speaker 2>He's like, we leave food out and stuff, you know,
<v Speaker 2>but who knows what's eating the food? Of course, there's
<v Speaker 2>so many animals out there. And then he's like, and
<v Speaker 2>this is even weirder his fire, and this light starts
<v Speaker 2>coming up where I saw you coming up. He's like,
<v Speaker 2>that's who I thought. This is what I thought you were.
<v Speaker 2>He's like, I thought it was the motorcycle at first,
<v Speaker 2>because it was just a single light about three I
<v Speaker 2>foot off the ground coming up the road. And he's like,
<v Speaker 2>I watched it and it made no sound whatsoever. And
<v Speaker 2>it went by my house and there was that way
<v Speaker 2>and he pointed out that one that hasn't been there
<v Speaker 2>in like twenty something years, he said, And there was
<v Speaker 2>some dilapidated cars, like olden camper, a tractor and that
<v Speaker 2>type of stuff. And you can tell by the gate
<v Speaker 2>and the lock that nobody's been out there touching that
<v Speaker 2>lock for a long time. And I'm like, I'm like,
<v Speaker 2>that's pretty awesome. That's what I want to hear. And
<v Speaker 2>he's like, and then it happened again. He's like, and
<v Speaker 2>this time I had a few beers in me, and
<v Speaker 2>he said, this light started coming up the road again.
<v Speaker 2>So I walked out there and I stood in front
<v Speaker 2>of it. He said, it got to about ten feet
<v Speaker 2>from me, it stopped and just started going back the
<v Speaker 2>other way and then disappeared in the woods. He's like,
<v Speaker 2>there again, there wasn't anything in front of it, and
<v Speaker 2>there wasn't anything back of it. It was just a
<v Speaker 2>m that was floating down the the road, you know.
<v Speaker 2>And I'm like, that's pretty awesome. That's that's the type
<v Speaker 2>of stories that I want to hear, you know. And
<v Speaker 2>we talked a little bit more, and I told him,
<v Speaker 2>you know, that's why I'm out there, and I would
<v Speaker 2>really love, you know, to hear more stories if he
<v Speaker 2>ever sees anything else. I gave him my phone number
<v Speaker 2>and that you know where. I went back out there
<v Speaker 2>and visited a few more times while I was there,
<v Speaker 2>and then he had to go back to Texas and
<v Speaker 2>I didn't see him again. Went back, you know, after
<v Speaker 2>we got to and then the next day, walking the
<v Speaker 2>road once looking to the kay meets you Wilder just
<v Speaker 2>the other somewhere else. So I'm like, I'm gonna take
<v Speaker 2>that road this time. And I already had it mapped out,
<v Speaker 2>and my apartment, even though you didn't have any service
<v Speaker 2>or anything. A garment was satellite, so it showed me
<v Speaker 2>every single road that was out there. So I basically
<v Speaker 2>did every road to the right thing. So as I
<v Speaker 2>went out there the next day, I just taking her
<v Speaker 2>roads to the right and then every road to the
<v Speaker 2>left until I come back to where I was at.
<v Speaker 2>And some of these roads weren't roads, and you couldn't
<v Speaker 2>go more than you know, two three more two three
<v Speaker 2>miles an hour on these roads in a four wheel drive,
<v Speaker 2>and some of them were just barely wide enough or
<v Speaker 2>like a side by side and by little Chevy trackers.
<v Speaker 2>And after, oh man, after doing that for about a
<v Speaker 2>week or so, I came to the top of one
<v Speaker 2>mountain and I found the gates that they were talking about.
<v Speaker 2>And then I looked to my right and there's this cabin,
<v Speaker 2>and I'm like, this is awesome. There's a whole bunch
<v Speaker 2>of junker ain't everywhere old stuff, and there was a
<v Speaker 2>log cabin and couldn't really tell if it was anybody
<v Speaker 2>lived there or not, but it was pretty well built.
<v Speaker 2>And I get up to that turn, you know, I
<v Speaker 2>turned up into there, and as I'm pulling up, this
<v Speaker 2>big old guy, I mean he was a big comes
<v Speaker 2>walking out and I'm just like, oh crap, I hope
<v Speaker 2>he's oning me, like, hey want to be names. I
<v Speaker 2>probably already said too much. If you're listening, don't don't
<v Speaker 2>go out there because they don't like visitors. So I
<v Speaker 2>gave him, you know, I said, I talked to the
<v Speaker 2>people that owned the property you mentioned their last name.
<v Speaker 2>Gave him, you know, the piece of paper that the
<v Speaker 2>realer gave me and the paper that I printed up
<v Speaker 2>that that the logging company gave me. And he looks
<v Speaker 2>at it and he's like, he's like, I ain't gonna
<v Speaker 2>do no good if such and such, and you know,
<v Speaker 2>that's fine by me. So I decided, you know, two
<v Speaker 2>hang out with him and talk to him for a
<v Speaker 2>little while. That day, well before I found him, there
<v Speaker 2>was this fire tower that I kept seeing as I
<v Speaker 2>was going around, you know, to get to the top
<v Speaker 2>of certain mountains and see this fire tower. It's like,
<v Speaker 2>I want, I want that fire tower. I want to
<v Speaker 2>get to that fire tower. Something's drawn me to that
<v Speaker 2>fire tower, and I got to get to that fire tower.
<v Speaker 2>I don't want to go up. I just want to
<v Speaker 2>get to where that fire tower is. And I finally
<v Speaker 2>found the gate or the road to the fire tower
<v Speaker 2>and there was a gate that was locked, and I'm like, well, poop,
<v Speaker 2>so much for that idea. So but when I finally,
<v Speaker 2>you know, found the old man on the top of
<v Speaker 2>the mountain and I got there, talked to him for
<v Speaker 2>a while and he's pretty nice, you know. So we
<v Speaker 2>talked and I asked him. I'm like, I finally got
<v Speaker 2>to the question after talking for a few hours on
<v Speaker 2>the back porch, and I was like, so, have you
<v Speaker 2>seen any weird strange stuff. He's like, I've been up
<v Speaker 2>here my whole life with no electricity, no nothing. He's like,
<v Speaker 2>you're gonna have to special you know what kind of
<v Speaker 2>strange stuff. I've seen a lot of strange stuff up here.
<v Speaker 2>Are you talking strange stuff that people do? I'm like,
<v Speaker 2>I can just imagine the strange stuff people do, but no,
<v Speaker 2>I'm talking about strange stuff, you know, you know the
<v Speaker 2>wilderness that's talking or But he's like he's an org
<v Speaker 2>and they said he's seen it going across a field
<v Speaker 2>and his grandparents told him that those are pumpkins and
<v Speaker 2>you don't mess with those pumpkins. And I was like,
<v Speaker 2>well that's pretty big me. And I said, well, how
<v Speaker 2>about any big furry creatures that aren't bears, you know,
<v Speaker 2>that aren't explainable. And he's like, well, he's like, I
<v Speaker 2>used to live over if I were on this other mountain.
<v Speaker 2>And he said, I lived there most of my life
<v Speaker 2>out there, and he said one night ends in the
<v Speaker 2>middle of the night. I don't know what time and
<v Speaker 2>time as it was. He just went by in this
<v Speaker 2>position of the sun. Never went to school of day
<v Speaker 2>in his life, lived up there his whole life, never
<v Speaker 2>had electricity, lived off of deer eating a rabbit. And
<v Speaker 2>he was a big guy. I mean, come to find
<v Speaker 2>out he was seventy years old. I thought he was
<v Speaker 2>like fifty. And he was broad at the shoulders. I mean,
<v Speaker 2>he looked more fit than Arnold Schwarzenator. He was just
<v Speaker 2>a big logger like Paul Bunyan. And he said, I
<v Speaker 2>used to live up there on that mountain. And he
<v Speaker 2>said to mountain with the fire tower. And I was like,
<v Speaker 2>I've been trying to get to that mountain, but there's
<v Speaker 2>a gate block there. He's like, that's my gate. That's
<v Speaker 2>what that gate there. Some people won't go up there
<v Speaker 2>and climb on the fire tower because teenagers kept going
<v Speaker 2>out there and playing on the fire tower, and if
<v Speaker 2>anybody gets hurt, we'll get in trouble, you know, possible.
<v Speaker 2>But he said I lived up there and this was
<v Speaker 2>you know, he had no recollection of how many years
<v Speaker 2>or whatever, so I just figured it was about twenty
<v Speaker 2>years ago something like that, you know. He said he
<v Speaker 2>heard a ruckus at his at the feeder right beside
<v Speaker 2>the barn where he had the horses, and he didn't
<v Speaker 2>have horses no more, but the feeder still had some
<v Speaker 2>old some feet in it. He heard a ruckus, and
<v Speaker 2>he came out with a three figures. He said. There
<v Speaker 2>was a really tall one, there was a little bit
<v Speaker 2>shorter one, and then there was a short one that
<v Speaker 2>was about his size. And this guy's about sixty two
<v Speaker 2>sixty three, you know, and that was the shortest one.
<v Speaker 2>He said. I shouted at their face, and they weren't
<v Speaker 2>no they weren't no bear. I seen bear, and they
<v Speaker 2>weren't no bear. He said. This thing had a face
<v Speaker 2>and it was black and its eyes were greenish orange.
<v Speaker 2>Flashback at me, he said. The tallest one just grunted
<v Speaker 2>at me and locked eyes with me and kept staring
<v Speaker 2>at me as the other two slowly backed up across
<v Speaker 2>the field, and then halfway across the field, turned around
<v Speaker 2>and just walked north, and he said the very same thing.
<v Speaker 2>Walk They got halfway across and it turned around and
<v Speaker 2>walked into the tree line, and I said, that's pretty awesome.
<v Speaker 2>That's the stuff I want to hear. I said, that's
<v Speaker 2>where I want to camp. I said, can I camp
<v Speaker 2>up there? He's like, well, he's like, it's not my property.
<v Speaker 2>He's like, none of this is my property. I just
<v Speaker 2>take care of it. And he's like, so, I can't
<v Speaker 2>give your permission to stay out there. And he didn't
<v Speaker 2>know me that well. I told him I don't hunt.
<v Speaker 2>I'm not out there to kill anything. I'm just out
<v Speaker 2>here to explore and camp. That's it. It's out here
<v Speaker 2>to get away from the city and enjoy myself. And
<v Speaker 2>he's like, but you can stay down here, you know.
<v Speaker 2>So he gave me a few spots I could stay,
<v Speaker 2>just to test me out, to see if I was
<v Speaker 2>going to trash the place or if I was gonna,
<v Speaker 2>you know, bring other people out there and have parties
<v Speaker 2>or people on side by side. Because he's like, I
<v Speaker 2>don't allow people out here. I run anybody office got
<v Speaker 2>side by sides. And he's like, but if you're going
<v Speaker 2>to stay by yourself and not bring anybody out there,
<v Speaker 2>He's like, you can stay down over by the creek.
<v Speaker 2>So we go down the Pine Creek, which was pretty cool.
<v Speaker 2>I stayed down there for about six weeks, camped fish,
<v Speaker 2>you know, ate a lot of catfish out the out
<v Speaker 2>of the creek, and a lot of smoothies. I mean
<v Speaker 2>I had this little generator with me and a smoothie
<v Speaker 2>maker and protein powder and oatmeal, and then go into
<v Speaker 2>town and get the name thing. I didn't eat meat
<v Speaker 2>so much, and berries that I picked and the fish
<v Speaker 2>that I caught. And I was out there, I don't
<v Speaker 2>know about five weeks, and I would just sit there
<v Speaker 2>and watch the tree line, watch the watch the ridge,
<v Speaker 2>you know, just for anything that's different, anything to changes.
<v Speaker 2>One day. This is probably three weeks in. There was
<v Speaker 2>a cave, not pretty big, across the creek. It was
<v Speaker 2>on a hill. It was just too steep to walk up.
<v Speaker 2>So even if you went across the creek, you weren't
<v Speaker 2>unless there was a rope hanging down, it weren't you
<v Speaker 2>was to go to climb up to that. And I
<v Speaker 2>had my video camera that had the nice zoom on it,
<v Speaker 2>and I'm checking what this was. It is weird, but
<v Speaker 2>the sun was hitting it just right, and I saw
<v Speaker 2>colors in the in that in that little cave that
<v Speaker 2>didn't match up to rocks or anything else. It was
<v Speaker 2>just a tannish grayish color. And I zoomed in on
<v Speaker 2>it with my video camera and there was a face
<v Speaker 2>looking at me. But it wasn't a bigfoot. It was
<v Speaker 2>a mountain lion and her cub, come to find out,
<v Speaker 2>a mountain lion, and the cub was like lived in
<v Speaker 2>that cave across the way. But I never saw any
<v Speaker 2>tracks or anything on my side. But we did find
<v Speaker 2>tracks on the other side, full sized mountain lion tracks.
<v Speaker 2>And then you know, kitt't mountain lion tracks, and they
<v Speaker 2>took down a deer on that side. And this was
<v Speaker 2>like that's about five weeks after I was there. Yeah,
<v Speaker 2>and Bill told me, He's like, yeah, you don't want
<v Speaker 2>to mess with no mountain line. I'm like, yeah, that's
<v Speaker 2>for sure. I had a pistol with man. I had
<v Speaker 2>a three eighty versa, but just for protection, you know
<v Speaker 2>from from mainly four or mountain lion. You know, that's
<v Speaker 2>the only two things that I would worry about. And
<v Speaker 2>one morning I got up early, so I had to
<v Speaker 2>go pee or a big bag. So I got up
<v Speaker 2>early just as the you know, sun was coming up. Normally,
<v Speaker 2>I waited until the sun was up for a moment
<v Speaker 2>before I even got out of my jeep or out
<v Speaker 2>of the tracker. I had a little bad tent that
<v Speaker 2>folded out from the back of the tracker, and I
<v Speaker 2>stayed in it. You know, as soon as before the
<v Speaker 2>sun went down. He went in because of the mosquitos,
<v Speaker 2>and then if you came out too early, got ate
<v Speaker 2>up by mosquito. So I just stayed in there. Well,
<v Speaker 2>this time I got out early and I saw something
<v Speaker 2>out of the corner of my eye that's pretty big,
<v Speaker 2>jumped down out of a tree, and I don't know
<v Speaker 2>if it was the mountain lion or what. But about
<v Speaker 2>five minutes later from the other side of the I'm like, WHOA,
<v Speaker 2>don't make noise like that, because if they do, make
<v Speaker 2>noise like that, because they get eaten. So that's the track.
<v Speaker 2>You couldn't see any tracks, no mountain lion tracks, no
<v Speaker 2>big giants foot big foot footprint tracks or anything like that.
<v Speaker 2>So I'm like, yeah, probably no big deal. And I
<v Speaker 2>went back up and told Bill you know about it,
<v Speaker 2>and told him about the mountain lion across the way,
<v Speaker 2>and he's like, well, I wouldn't be staying down there
<v Speaker 2>by yourself if there's a mountain lion across the creek.
<v Speaker 2>And he's like, especially if she's got a baby, because
<v Speaker 2>she's going to be very protective on that. He's like,
<v Speaker 2>if you want, yeah, yeah, you're probably right. So he's like,
<v Speaker 2>if you want to stay over this other spot. So
<v Speaker 2>I went over this other spot stay. I stayed there
<v Speaker 2>for maybe a week. Nothing happened. And after that week
<v Speaker 2>I went up to his cabin to go visit him,
<v Speaker 2>and he was off feeding the cows and doing stuff
<v Speaker 2>for the day. So I decided to take a hike
<v Speaker 2>on top of his mountain. And I took a hike
<v Speaker 2>maybe three miles four miles, and a bunch of hogs medios.
<v Speaker 2>You know, it's like, we'll worre's the big hogs. Some
<v Speaker 2>of these hogs are huge up here, and I don't
<v Speaker 2>want to get attacked. You know, my little three eighties
<v Speaker 2>is not going to be any state compared to one
<v Speaker 2>of these big hogs. And I didn't see any big hogs.
<v Speaker 2>So I made a little bit of noise of the
<v Speaker 2>small ones that hear me, and they took up. So
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, yeah, that was pretty cool, know, and walked
<v Speaker 2>up another i don't know, about one hundred yards and
<v Speaker 2>about fifty feet from me in the in the woods
<v Speaker 2>to the right, a big old crack, big old branch cracked,
<v Speaker 2>and I'm just like, whoa about that. That's pretty weird,
<v Speaker 2>you know. So I stopped right there, I waved over
<v Speaker 2>to that side and said, hey, no problem, I'm turning around.
<v Speaker 2>I'm leaving. So I turned around, started walking back and
<v Speaker 2>got about two miles about halfway back, and there was
<v Speaker 2>a turkey feather. You know, there's a turkey feather in
<v Speaker 2>the in the path right there where you know, planes planes,
<v Speaker 2>you could see, you know, a turkey feather just sitting
<v Speaker 2>right there in the path. I picked it up in
<v Speaker 2>no way, said thank you, kept walking, went back and
<v Speaker 2>about then about that time, you know, and it was getting
<v Speaker 2>pretty late in the year, starting to get hot. So
<v Speaker 2>I figured, you know, this is enough for me. So
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to go back to Oklahoma City and stay till,
<v Speaker 2>you know, stay there for a while to explore other
<v Speaker 2>places and I'll come back, you know, in the springtime.
<v Speaker 2>So I did that and explored a lot when other
<v Speaker 2>places finished the Oklahoma Adventure Trail, and about February, about
<v Speaker 2>the end of February, I went back out and that
<v Speaker 2>time Bill was like, I was like, I want to
<v Speaker 2>stay a flat top. That's where I want to stay.
<v Speaker 2>And I said, that's the only place I want to stay.
<v Speaker 2>So it's like, all right. He never taken me up
<v Speaker 2>there before. He's like all right, He's like, but she
<v Speaker 2>had like four four wheelers and basing its going to
<v Speaker 2>hop on in this four wheeler and I'm gonna I'm
<v Speaker 2>gonna go show you some stuff. So we went to
<v Speaker 2>this one place and he's like, this place where you're
<v Speaker 2>gonna we're probably gonna find arrowheads. So he's like, look around,
<v Speaker 2>and I mean, I wasn't there five minutes and I
<v Speaker 2>found a perfect arrowhead, which was crazy. That was awesome.
<v Speaker 2>So I found an arrowhead that was like the greatest
<v Speaker 2>thing in the world, you know. So I kept that
<v Speaker 2>and he's like, well, he's like that, I'm gonna take
<v Speaker 2>you where you want to go, and you got to
<v Speaker 2>promise me you'll leave it exactly the way you found it.
<v Speaker 2>He's like, he's like, I asked. I asked the family,
<v Speaker 2>and they're like, if you think it's okay, you know
<v Speaker 2>it's okay, you can stay up there. And I said, plus,
<v Speaker 2>if anybody comes up there, they're having problem with people
<v Speaker 2>on side by side coming up there and stuff like that. Said,
<v Speaker 2>I'll run people off, you know, if anybody comes up
<v Speaker 2>there too, so you won't have to worry about that.
<v Speaker 2>And he already knew that nobody was going to come
<v Speaker 2>up there that I knew. I wasn't going to bring
<v Speaker 2>nobody up there like that. So he's like, come on,
<v Speaker 2>we're going to the top of the mountain where I
<v Speaker 2>saw where you want to stay. And I'm not going
<v Speaker 2>to tell you the name of the mountain, but it's
<v Speaker 2>cool mountain. I mean, when you get up there to
<v Speaker 2>cut your compass goes wacky. And it's the only place
<v Speaker 2>in all those mountains that you had cell service, which
<v Speaker 2>was weird. You know. I still had a lot of
<v Speaker 2>his stuff in the cap and it was a little
<v Speaker 2>run down. The screens are torn and some of the
<v Speaker 2>woods fallen down. I was like, you know what, I'll
<v Speaker 2>make it look like. I'll fix the screens. I'll put
<v Speaker 2>new screens up, I'll put new slaps up, you know.
<v Speaker 2>And they had a saw mill. He had a homemade
<v Speaker 2>saw mill, but he would cut you know, wood, and
<v Speaker 2>you know the trim. When you had first cut the log,
<v Speaker 2>you cut the top off, you know, the rounded part,
<v Speaker 2>you'd turn it, cut the other side off, and turn
<v Speaker 2>it at the other side off. There was perfectly square.
<v Speaker 2>Then you cut out you know, good pieces of wood.
<v Speaker 2>So I took all the rounded pieces and took them
<v Speaker 2>back up there and used my generator with a skill
<v Speaker 2>saw and then uh texts the tap and up a little.
<v Speaker 2>I was out there for a good five months. I
<v Speaker 2>was out there from the end of February of July,
<v Speaker 2>which was really neat, you know, just living off of
<v Speaker 2>everything that I could find, plus going into town every
<v Speaker 2>now and then getting through stuff stuff for smoothies and gas.
<v Speaker 2>And he's like, well, when I first got when he
<v Speaker 2>first took me up there, he's like, he's like, he
<v Speaker 2>didn't expect me to stay very long. And within the
<v Speaker 2>first like week or so, oh, I started seeing things.
<v Speaker 2>I got up in the middle of the night, can
<v Speaker 2>go pee, and something big and white on the other
<v Speaker 2>side of the cabin. I could see over the top
<v Speaker 2>of the cabin. It's just a flash of white and disappeared,
<v Speaker 2>and I'm like, that's pretty weak. And that was that
<v Speaker 2>was white white, you know, or gray wild or you know,
<v Speaker 2>like somebody's an old person's turned white. It's kind of
<v Speaker 2>what it looks like. And I saw that and not
<v Speaker 2>a whole lot of activity though. It just kind of
<v Speaker 2>a few weird things, and not until I want to say,
<v Speaker 2>the middle of June. Yeah, about the middle of June.
<v Speaker 2>It was a full moon. And at this time I
<v Speaker 2>sold my Chark Glums City, I sold my tracker, and
<v Speaker 2>I bought a jeep chair. This time I had a jeep.
<v Speaker 2>When I'm back up there and I come out of
<v Speaker 2>my jeep to go pee, and I had my powerful
<v Speaker 2>flashlight and as I did every night, if I had
<v Speaker 2>to come out go pee here, I shine it everywhere. Well,
<v Speaker 2>this time I shin ended around and in the field
<v Speaker 2>on the other side of the cabin, or actually on
<v Speaker 2>the other side of the fire traper, on the other
<v Speaker 2>side of the fire tower. There were four slaps on
<v Speaker 2>the top of the feeder in the middle of the night.
<v Speaker 2>It's just like one, two, three, four, we go slaps,
<v Speaker 2>and I'm just like, wow, that is awesome, because I
<v Speaker 2>know the vehicle or anything like that the bottom of
<v Speaker 2>the mountain to get up there, so you know, I
<v Speaker 2>was just like this is awesome. I'm like that, that's awesome.
<v Speaker 2>So I stepped there for about thirty minutes outside of
<v Speaker 2>my jeep and was talking towards that direction, you know,
<v Speaker 2>just saying, you know, hey, guys, how's it going. You know,
<v Speaker 2>don't mind me. I'm just here hanging out, you know,
<v Speaker 2>just rambling on about stuff. And then after about thirty
<v Speaker 2>forty minutes, I got back and didn't really hear anything
<v Speaker 2>else for a couple of days, and I decided to
<v Speaker 2>leave some crackers. There was there was old vehicles right
<v Speaker 2>inside the tree line. There were old trucks, like I
<v Speaker 2>mean from the forties, thirties, forties and fifties back in
<v Speaker 2>the tree line, and I decided to leave some crackers
<v Speaker 2>on one of the the top, you know, the hood
<v Speaker 2>of one of the trucks. Came back and checked the
<v Speaker 2>next they were gone. So this time I left some crackers.
<v Speaker 2>I spread some dirt around and I let some crackers
<v Speaker 2>up there to see if their crows were getting number
<v Speaker 2>of the en barnments were getting them. Next day I
<v Speaker 2>come back, the dirt was not disturbed and the crackers
<v Speaker 2>were I'm like, that's pretty cool. So what what could
<v Speaker 2>this be? Which I already had an idea, so at
<v Speaker 2>that time I didn't leave anything. That evening, right before
<v Speaker 2>the sun went down, it was about I don't know,
<v Speaker 2>about seven thirty eight o'clock, and something slapped the top
<v Speaker 2>of the truck. I'm like, what the heck or just
<v Speaker 2>slapped it and out there, you know, noise echoed forever,
<v Speaker 2>and I'm like, that's awesome. So I immediately throw the
<v Speaker 2>jeep over there before the sun went completely down, unless
<v Speaker 2>the crackers on them on the gee or on the
<v Speaker 2>old truck. And I was actually staying right at the
<v Speaker 2>spot he said he saw the big foot, And then
<v Speaker 2>I was constantly watching the tree line ever seeing the day.
<v Speaker 2>Didn't really see something slapping big and and there's not
<v Speaker 2>like that. So I kept leaving crackers, and then once
<v Speaker 2>every other day or so, I wouldn't leave crackers. And
<v Speaker 2>every time every time I did not leave crackers or
<v Speaker 2>a banana or something on that hood, it would slap
<v Speaker 2>the top of the hood. In the evening, it blows
<v Speaker 2>me away. This is awesome. It's communicating with me whatever
<v Speaker 2>it is telling me. Whereas my crackers. And one evening
<v Speaker 2>I was picking there was an awesome BlackBerry bush that big, old, fat,
<v Speaker 2>seedless blackberries on it. I had picked those every so
<v Speaker 2>often and eat them. And one night evening I was
<v Speaker 2>gonna make my evening smoothie and I didn't have my
<v Speaker 2>bananas or anything. So I picked picking blackberries and it
<v Speaker 2>slapped the top of the hood even though I left
<v Speaker 2>crackers out there while I was picking those blackberries. So
<v Speaker 2>it's like, well, crap, I'm picking his blackberries. Maybe whatever
<v Speaker 2>it is, I'm picking his blackberries. So I picked a
<v Speaker 2>full cup of blackberries and took it over there and
<v Speaker 2>put it on the hood of the car. Next day,
<v Speaker 2>they were gone, the cup and everything was gone, no
<v Speaker 2>cup laying anywhere. That's even cooler, you know, because something
<v Speaker 2>would just eat out of the cup and leave the
<v Speaker 2>cup somewhere, you know, right there. And this went on
<v Speaker 2>for a while, and one day it rained really hard
<v Speaker 2>and I'm sitting in my gee and it was about
<v Speaker 2>four point thirty five o'clock in the evening, so the
<v Speaker 2>sun was hitting trees like listening, and of course, got
<v Speaker 2>nothing else to do because it's sprinkling and rain. And
<v Speaker 2>the rain stopped, and I keep watching the tree line
<v Speaker 2>and I see these two orageous green reflections in a
<v Speaker 2>tree that are not moving independently like all the other leaves.
<v Speaker 2>You know, you see all the other leaves moving this
<v Speaker 2>way and that way, all independently. Well, this is two
<v Speaker 2>set ones that aren't moving like all the rest of
<v Speaker 2>the leaves. They're kind of wide apart, and they're orange,
<v Speaker 2>just green like somebody's sunglasses. And I'm like, some of them,
<v Speaker 2>you know what, somebody is in a tree stand across
<v Speaker 2>there watching me with sunglasses on. I'm like, that's ridiculous.
<v Speaker 2>So I go in the cabin and I get one
<v Speaker 2>of the rifles and I pull the scope off the rifles,
<v Speaker 2>point a rifle with anybody that might have been up
<v Speaker 2>there on the seat. I pop it up on my
<v Speaker 2>jeek door and I zero in on the two green things.
<v Speaker 2>And there's a big black spot too, I mean a
<v Speaker 2>huge black spot in the trees. Then I see it
<v Speaker 2>was a face. It's just like the guy said he
<v Speaker 2>saw in the middle of the night with the flashlight,
<v Speaker 2>two greenish orange eyes. I saw a face there's blackish
<v Speaker 2>blue face with I saw the eyebrows, I saw the
<v Speaker 2>crow's feet on either side of the eyes. I saw
<v Speaker 2>the nose, I saw the mouth, the cheeks, the cheek phones,
<v Speaker 2>the jawline, the hair on its head. Its hair was
<v Speaker 2>blackish blue, shiny, and I mean it was as nice
<v Speaker 2>as my husky's hair. It wasn't matted, it wasn't nasty,
<v Speaker 2>it wasn't gross. It was really nicely groomed. I mean everything.
<v Speaker 2>If I talk about everything, and the world isn't like
<v Speaker 2>it is, the world is different than what they tell us.
<v Speaker 2>And this is what I'm thinking in my head. And
<v Speaker 2>I followed its arm down to its shoulders, didn't really
<v Speaker 2>have a neck, its hairline foot down to its shoulders.
<v Speaker 2>Its shoulders were really wide. It was in a tree
<v Speaker 2>about eight ten foot up in a tree, holding onto
<v Speaker 2>a tree, and its right hand was holding onto the tree.
<v Speaker 2>I followed this arm all the way today, just like
<v Speaker 2>it was right in front of my face with a
<v Speaker 2>rifle scope, and I could see it had a hand
<v Speaker 2>just like us. It didn't claws or anything like that.
<v Speaker 2>It had fingernails that was well groomed. They weren't long,
<v Speaker 2>they weren't dirty. It had wrinkles on every knuckle, just
<v Speaker 2>like we do. It just looked like a big black
<v Speaker 2>human hand black black blueish black. It was so black,
<v Speaker 2>like gun barrel blue. And I'm just like, this is awesome.
<v Speaker 2>I saw it was had two fingers holding onto the tree,
<v Speaker 2>and I couldn't see its feet. I couldn't see its legs.
<v Speaker 2>I could just see part of its chest, its right
<v Speaker 2>arm and head and face in hand. I'm like wow.
<v Speaker 2>So I sat there for like forty minutes with my
<v Speaker 2>one eye squinted. I couldn't move. I didn't want to
<v Speaker 2>move because I didn't want to ever lose sight of
<v Speaker 2>this thing and not see it again. I didn't want
<v Speaker 2>to blink. But of course, after squinting one eye looking
<v Speaker 2>through a scope for that long, you just can't keep
<v Speaker 2>it up. So I repositioned myself, rubbed my eye and
<v Speaker 2>zero back in on it, and it repositions itself. When
<v Speaker 2>I did that, it didn't move the whole time, and
<v Speaker 2>I think it was the same way. You know, it
<v Speaker 2>didn't want to move either, And but the whole time
<v Speaker 2>its head was moving so slow back and forth that
<v Speaker 2>its eye, one eye would disappear behind the tree. And
<v Speaker 2>I don't only see one eye and then really slow.
<v Speaker 2>I mean it takes thirty forty to fifty seconds, and
<v Speaker 2>it would move back out and you can see both
<v Speaker 2>its eyes and its whole face, and then it would
<v Speaker 2>move back real slow. I mean this thing moves so
<v Speaker 2>slow that you could barely tell that it was moving.
<v Speaker 2>If it's eye wouldn't have disappeared behind the tree. And
<v Speaker 2>that's what gave it away. At the first place that
<v Speaker 2>the we kept disappearing, one of the glowing greeness orange
<v Speaker 2>things that disappear and come back out then go back
<v Speaker 2>and forth real slow, and it repositioned itself and its
<v Speaker 2>whole hand thumb all five fingers I could see on
<v Speaker 2>that holding onto the tree. And now I saw the
<v Speaker 2>whole hand, which was so cool. I mean, this was
<v Speaker 2>I was just like that had a face like a human,
<v Speaker 2>so it wasn't a protruding mouth or jaw or anything
<v Speaker 2>like a gorilla or a monkey. It was like us.
<v Speaker 2>I mean, it was a flat face. It had a
<v Speaker 2>wide nose just like us. It had cheekbones, you know who.
<v Speaker 2>John Amos is an old football player from the seventies.
<v Speaker 2>Good times, right, good times, yeah, good times. The old
<v Speaker 2>sitcom in the seventies Good Times with J. J. Walker
<v Speaker 2>and John Amos. It had a face just like John Amos,
<v Speaker 2>That's what it looked like, which of course he's a
<v Speaker 2>black guy. And that was so awesome. It was so human,
<v Speaker 2>Like I was just blown away. I'm like, these things
<v Speaker 2>don't look like gorillas at all. And I'm like, I've
<v Speaker 2>got to go back in that area, but I'm not
<v Speaker 2>going to walk back in the area. And I like,
<v Speaker 2>us is getting restless, it's fun, and I'm like, i
<v Speaker 2>gotta go back up and then Harry, so I go.
<v Speaker 2>The next day, I mean, this happened. I kept watching,
<v Speaker 2>we were watching each other, it was watching me. I
<v Speaker 2>was walking my Jple into bed the happiest and I'm
<v Speaker 2>dating at all. To tell that, I hope I didn't
<v Speaker 2>say his name. I think I slipped instead of his name.
<v Speaker 2>The next day, I went up to the to the
<v Speaker 2>cabin to talk to him and told him about it,
<v Speaker 2>and I said, I saw what he saw. They was
<v Speaker 2>watching me in the tree line. I was like, I
<v Speaker 2>want to explore back in there, but I don't want
<v Speaker 2>to walk. You know, I'm not going to hike back
<v Speaker 2>up in there. That kind of freaked me out. To
<v Speaker 2>be on foot. Why, I don't know, because and ATV
<v Speaker 2>is not going to help me out any If anything
<v Speaker 2>wants to get me, how fast thing we're I'm going
<v Speaker 2>to be able to go. So I was like, okay,
<v Speaker 2>he's like, there's an old ATV up on that mountain.
<v Speaker 2>He showed me where it was at. He's like, you
<v Speaker 2>get it running, put some tires on it. You can
<v Speaker 2>ride it all you want. Absolutely, heck yeah. So I
<v Speaker 2>pulled the old ATV out. There's a Honda four track
<v Speaker 2>or something like that. I pulled it out of the
<v Speaker 2>It was overgrown with grass and everything else. So I
<v Speaker 2>pulled it and the carburetor all the gas out of
<v Speaker 2>the but that sucker started right up. I had to
<v Speaker 2>kick started because the starter didn't work and the battery
<v Speaker 2>was that dead. But three kicks has started right up
<v Speaker 2>and it's been sitting who knows how long. Because he
<v Speaker 2>had no concept of time, I could just imagine. So
<v Speaker 2>immediately I went into town. I got on eBay and
<v Speaker 2>ordered four tires for it. Then four days later they
<v Speaker 2>show up and his sisters and brother's house and in town,
<v Speaker 2>and I went and picked him up and we put
<v Speaker 2>the tires on the ride I got it married up,
<v Speaker 2>and the next day I'm like, I'm gonna go explore
<v Speaker 2>back in there, so I was ready to go. I
<v Speaker 2>packed me at lunch. I packed me some water and
<v Speaker 2>put it in my backpack and rode over there to
<v Speaker 2>that area and went through the gate and I didn't
<v Speaker 2>get fifty yards into it, and there was this big
<v Speaker 2>friar patch that looked like a dome and I couldn't
<v Speaker 2>see around the other side of it. So I'm slowly
<v Speaker 2>going around the other side of it. And apparently it
<v Speaker 2>didn't expect me to be back up in there, you know,
<v Speaker 2>because nobody has been in those areas for well over
<v Speaker 2>twenty years. And that's you know, that's what I where
<v Speaker 2>I wanted to be places where nobody's gone for really
<v Speaker 2>was which I know what it was, and it was
<v Speaker 2>sleeping and I didn't see it because it threw I mean,
<v Speaker 2>it threw adult truck load of dirt and leaves and
<v Speaker 2>sticks in my face just you know, I just got
<v Speaker 2>hit with a wave, like a gust of wind, blew
<v Speaker 2>up a whole bunch of stuff in my face. And
<v Speaker 2>by the time I collected myself, like you know, it
<v Speaker 2>startled me and then I had stuff in my eyes
<v Speaker 2>and it was covered with stuff. By the time I
<v Speaker 2>collected myself, there was nothing there. And so I'm like,
<v Speaker 2>that was awesome, you know, scared the poop out of me,
<v Speaker 2>you know, And I said, but it didn't attack me.
<v Speaker 2>This directed me so I could get out of there,
<v Speaker 2>and it just poofed disappeared. I didn't see it run.
<v Speaker 2>I didn't see where the upper no foliage or anything
<v Speaker 2>like that. That's everything. But here in Oklahoma, while they're
<v Speaker 2>in Oklahoma, you could pretty much walk through it because
<v Speaker 2>nothing got to the ground, nothing grew in the ground
<v Speaker 2>and stuff out of the briars. And I didn't see
<v Speaker 2>it go anywhere, which was pretty weird, like, well, where
<v Speaker 2>the heck didn't they go? You know? So I went.
<v Speaker 2>It was prettybe twenty thirty acres and I went around
<v Speaker 2>the fence line, and then I zigzagged all the way
<v Speaker 2>back through it, just as zigzag back and forth, just
<v Speaker 2>to see what I could see on this ATV. Didn't
<v Speaker 2>see anything. I didn't see tracks or anything like that
<v Speaker 2>because the leaves and stuff on the ground again kind
<v Speaker 2>of like the pine needles, it was just soft cushion,
<v Speaker 2>and you really what dirt you particularly see if there
<v Speaker 2>was track. I'm not an Indian tracker or anything like that,
<v Speaker 2>so you know, I could track things if there's dirt
<v Speaker 2>or sand or something like that. I could track deer,
<v Speaker 2>I could track hog, you know, track cats, track whatever,
<v Speaker 2>coyotes and another thing. Almost every night I could howl
<v Speaker 2>and I would get right in the tree line. I
<v Speaker 2>would And one night, so I was up wind from everything,
<v Speaker 2>and I saw a whole pack of hogs and these hogs,
<v Speaker 2>I mean, the grass was four foot high and I
<v Speaker 2>could see the backs of the hogs over the top
<v Speaker 2>of these this grass. They were so big, it was crazy.
<v Speaker 2>They were so big. And I heard coyotes and the
<v Speaker 2>next thing, you know, the coyotes went after a small
<v Speaker 2>hog and they were taking down the small hogs. So
<v Speaker 2>you were hearing coyotes going after a hog that was
<v Speaker 2>squealing like crazy. And then you hear these giant hogs
<v Speaker 2>just snorting like crazy, trying to save the thing squealing.
<v Speaker 2>And this went on for like forty five minutes from
<v Speaker 2>dust until the sun was down. And crazy noise. You think,
<v Speaker 2>you think two cats fighting in the city's crazy noise.
<v Speaker 2>This is like the most horrific noise you could you
<v Speaker 2>could listen to. But it was awesome. And but anyway
<v Speaker 2>back to the so I think zagged back through there,
<v Speaker 2>never saw anything, didn't see anything else. And I'm like, well,
<v Speaker 2>well poop, you know. So I went back to my
<v Speaker 2>camp and that's getting hungry. That made me a smooth
<v Speaker 2>And just as I was about to take a drink
<v Speaker 2>of my smoothie in the tree line right there where
<v Speaker 2>I was at where I went to it, got stuff
<v Speaker 2>thrown in my face. A big old branch cracked, just cracked.
<v Speaker 2>So then I realized they cracked branches, that's their territory.
<v Speaker 2>Stay out. Won't go back there again. I won't bother
<v Speaker 2>you again. And every evening at the same time, it
<v Speaker 2>was in that tree watching me and every evening until
<v Speaker 2>July sixth, So for about three weeks we every evening
<v Speaker 2>we watched each other. I saw this thing in the
<v Speaker 2>tree every evening, which was pretty awesome. And that's about
<v Speaker 2>the time July sixth to July like third or something,
<v Speaker 2>my sister called and said, hey, you know, can you
<v Speaker 2>come to Florida help me out? And because my brother
<v Speaker 2>in law, her husband passed away, and I'm like, you know, absolutely,
<v Speaker 2>it was up to one hundred and sixteen degrees. Anyways,
<v Speaker 2>it was getting hot, and I had well water. I
<v Speaker 2>had a generator there that could start up and pump
<v Speaker 2>up some well water. I filled up a horse trough
<v Speaker 2>and I would sit in that horse trough for three
<v Speaker 2>hours out of the day to cool off, and then
<v Speaker 2>in the equal of I cold walk crazy and I
<v Speaker 2>would cool offt the hour pretty much every evening to
<v Speaker 2>cool off before bed. But every late afternoon till the
<v Speaker 2>sun went down. It was in that tree watching me,
<v Speaker 2>and I was watching it. I don't know how long
<v Speaker 2>beforehand before I actually saw it, was probably washing me
<v Speaker 2>every single day. Anyways, while I was out there, I
<v Speaker 2>just didn't know it. I saw its eyes. And this
<v Speaker 2>one went on for three weeks until I had to leave,
<v Speaker 2>And like the sixth, July sixth was my last day there,
<v Speaker 2>which really made me sad that I was leaving, But
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I really didn't have a choice because it
<v Speaker 2>was so hot, you know, just a camp out there,
<v Speaker 2>and it wasn't even the hottest time of the year yet,
<v Speaker 2>and the end of July and August. The next day,
<v Speaker 2>July sixth, during the day towards the heat was just
<v Speaker 2>talking to it and I caught a glimpse of it
<v Speaker 2>actually that day, off to the left, and it was
<v Speaker 2>standing there off to the left. It was standing on
<v Speaker 2>the ground between two trees, watching me. But I didn't
<v Speaker 2>know it because my I couldn't focus on it because
<v Speaker 2>you know, it didn't move. And then once it moved,
<v Speaker 2>I knew it was there because it went from black
<v Speaker 2>between two trees to green, you know. And I saw
<v Speaker 2>that and I noticed it was over there, so I
<v Speaker 2>and it wasn't very far from either, so I turned
<v Speaker 2>that way because I was watching the tree line. I
<v Speaker 2>turned that way, and I was like, man, you've never
<v Speaker 2>made a noise to me. I said, I would really
<v Speaker 2>love to hear your voice. And this was This wasn't
<v Speaker 2>in the evening this time. No, this wasn't in the evening.
<v Speaker 2>This was like afternoon. And I was like, man, I'd
<v Speaker 2>really love to hear your voice. I gotta leave, so
<v Speaker 2>I don't know when I'm going to be back or
<v Speaker 2>if I'm going to be back, and i'd really love
<v Speaker 2>to hear your voice. Can you just make some noises
<v Speaker 2>and say something. All of a sudden, I heard hop,
<v Speaker 2>So it's like communicated with me by slapping the thing
<v Speaker 2>slapping the truck. Then it communicated me after I specifically
<v Speaker 2>communicated with it. Now ask you a question and it
<v Speaker 2>answered me. But I guess the apparently couldn't talk or
<v Speaker 2>didn't want to make noise, not once did anything how me,
<v Speaker 2>make any aggression towards me, try to run me off
<v Speaker 2>for any reason. But I mean that about made me
<v Speaker 2>cry to hear that. And of course the next morning
<v Speaker 2>I had to pack everything up and leave. But that's
<v Speaker 2>that's pretty much it. I mean, I plan on going
<v Speaker 2>back someday. Someday soon, I plan on going back up there. Well,
<v Speaker 2>I appreciate it. I'm working to stay up there as
<v Speaker 2>long as I want. That's not the greatest story.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, absolutely, And I appreciate them close to where you
<v Speaker 1>were at.
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I think it was just curiosity they
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I mean that the old guys said, I
<v Speaker 2>can't believe you were up here this long. He's like
<v Speaker 2>the last person was fresh out of the army and
<v Speaker 2>he stayed up here for about four days and he
<v Speaker 2>just he left. He came up and he said, there's
<v Speaker 2>some weird stuff up there. I'm not staying up there,
<v Speaker 2>and he took off and he's like I really can't
<v Speaker 2>believe it lasted that long up there, and I'm like, well,
<v Speaker 2>you know, nothing really was aggressive towards me. I think
<v Speaker 2>it was just more curious. They were watching me, just
<v Speaker 2>like I was watching them. As much as I wanted
<v Speaker 2>to see them, they wanted to see me.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it sounds like it. So they were letting you
<v Speaker 1>know that they were in the area and possibly communicating
<v Speaker 1>with one another and trying to get your attention at
<v Speaker 1>the same time.
<v Speaker 2>Yep. It was pretty neat And I never really heard
<v Speaker 2>any weird sounds, any howls, any grunts, any growls, other
<v Speaker 2>than that last day in the middle of the day,
<v Speaker 2>where you don't hear coyotes, you don't hear pigs, and
<v Speaker 2>you don't hear coyote puffs, you know. I think it
<v Speaker 2>was just mimicking sounds that it heard that it knew,
<v Speaker 2>you know, to communicate with me.
<v Speaker 1>So these creatures would get up into the trees, is
<v Speaker 1>that correct.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they'd climb up about eight ten foot up into
<v Speaker 2>the tree and just sit there. As it was a
<v Speaker 2>crickd tree, so it was a tree with a curving,
<v Speaker 2>wasn't a straight tree that it would sit in all
<v Speaker 2>the time, and it was always in the same tree,
<v Speaker 2>and there was a deer stand right behind it, so
<v Speaker 2>that but it was such an old deer stand. Nobody's
<v Speaker 2>been in that deer stand in twenty something years and
<v Speaker 2>it was made out of wood. But yeah, it would
<v Speaker 2>actually just climb up in that tree and sit there
<v Speaker 2>and watch me every single day.
<v Speaker 1>Why do you think it climbed up that specific tree.
<v Speaker 2>I think it was just because, I mean it was
<v Speaker 2>because it was the only crypt tree. It was a
<v Speaker 2>it was a cryptree, so it was easiest to stand in.
<v Speaker 2>So I figure it standed it was standing on the
<v Speaker 2>park that was heard and it was just easiest to
<v Speaker 2>be up there like that.
<v Speaker 1>I think, Yeah, it sounds like it. So do you
<v Speaker 1>plan on returning to the area and seeing if these
<v Speaker 1>things are still around there?
<v Speaker 2>Oh? Absolutely, I'm going back. I'm I'm actually uh. This
<v Speaker 2>this was an in my book, my first book, which
<v Speaker 2>is called Breakfast with Bigfoot, and it should be in
<v Speaker 2>I've got it finished. I'm working on the format, the
<v Speaker 2>chapter you know, naming the chapters and that type of stuff.
<v Speaker 2>I've already got it already edited and I'm self publishing
<v Speaker 2>it so it'll be on Kindle, Amazon, Apple, and it'll
<v Speaker 2>be in Target. Were the four places the book will
<v Speaker 2>be by the end of this month, by the end
<v Speaker 2>of this month, and it's called Breakfast all right.
<v Speaker 1>I'll be sure to check that out. Breakfast with Bigfoot.
<v Speaker 1>That sounds like a good time.
<v Speaker 2>Why not call it breakfast with Bigfoot? You know, I
<v Speaker 2>just thought that was pretty cool.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, absolutely, all right, Steve. Well, I think you pretty
<v Speaker 1>well covered your experiences and encounters, and you answered most
<v Speaker 1>of the questions that I had written down.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and awesome. Well, I hope you enjoyed it. I
<v Speaker 2>hope everybody else enjoys it. The book has a lot
<v Speaker 2>more in it. The book has a couple stories about
<v Speaker 2>encounters in the area, one from the early eighteen hundreds,
<v Speaker 2>and then another one from the Siege of Hanovia, which
<v Speaker 2>is another story from not too long ago, you know,
<v Speaker 2>I think from I don't even want to say the nineties.
<v Speaker 2>I'm not sure, but it was maybe the two thousands,
<v Speaker 2>somewhere along in their early two thousands. And it made wow,
<v Speaker 2>there's a there's a town over there. The name sputs
<v Speaker 2>my mind, but it's really known. They've got they've got
<v Speaker 2>a restaurant, and Bigfoot restaurant where they have big foot
<v Speaker 2>burgers and all kinds of stuff over there. It's pretty
<v Speaker 2>This is southeast Oklahoma, so you just have to look
<v Speaker 2>it up this time. You know, everything that sees this,
<v Speaker 2>you know, that just pushed me to be here, to
<v Speaker 2>be there at the time. So I'm pretty excited about it,
<v Speaker 2>and I'm definitely going back out there. I'll have more
<v Speaker 2>books once. I want to get back out there, and
<v Speaker 2>I want to learn because they're not so yeah, and
<v Speaker 2>staying out there for you know, half the year at
<v Speaker 2>a time. I adapt the winter time over the middle
<v Speaker 2>of summer, so we'll say spring and fall. I'll go
<v Speaker 2>out there and stay for for months at a time.
<v Speaker 2>You know.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Well, if you go back out there, certainly be
<v Speaker 1>careful and contact me if you have any more encounters
<v Speaker 1>in the future.
<v Speaker 2>I will And I also have a guy I'm going
<v Speaker 2>to do it. He said he's been face to face
<v Speaker 2>a big foot. So in the next few days I'm
<v Speaker 2>going to talk to him and I will point in
<v Speaker 2>your way so you can do a podcast with him
<v Speaker 2>as well. He's going to be his experiences are going
<v Speaker 2>to be in my next book. So my next book
<v Speaker 2>is going to be like and he's going to be
<v Speaker 2>in that so I will point in your way have
<v Speaker 2>him get ahold of you.
<v Speaker 1>Okay, Steve, I appreciate that podcast with him as well. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>that sounds good with me. All right, man, Well, I'm
<v Speaker 1>gonna let you go for the evening, and yeah, I
<v Speaker 1>look forward to speaking with you again, and I'm sure
<v Speaker 1>you'll have more experiences to share.
<v Speaker 2>Oh I will. I plan on getting back up there.
<v Speaker 2>This is like, I don't know my passion, and I'm
<v Speaker 2>sure some people feel this way, but this is my passion,
<v Speaker 2>not just to talk about it, but to actually be
<v Speaker 2>out there. And I want to tell you and anybody
<v Speaker 2>else that the way to see them is to be
<v Speaker 2>by yourself and don't move, don't have any distractions, and
<v Speaker 2>just watch the tree lines. But also again, don't mess
<v Speaker 2>around at night, don't go out at night walk it
<v Speaker 2>through the woods looking for him and that type of stuff.
<v Speaker 2>Just that's that's not the way you do it. They
<v Speaker 2>will find you if they want you to see them. Yeah. So,
<v Speaker 2>oh and another time I got gifted antlers. I was
<v Speaker 2>walking the trail. I forgot this one. I was walking
<v Speaker 2>the trail and I had a couple of apples with me,
<v Speaker 2>I ate one, and I left the one in the tree,
<v Speaker 2>and I kept walking and I turned around and came back.
<v Speaker 2>And at that point where I left the apple in
<v Speaker 2>the tree, the apple was gone, and there was it
<v Speaker 2>and it wasn't there. And there was another path towards
<v Speaker 2>a briar patch that was so thick I couldn't watch through,
<v Speaker 2>but I tried. It's like, no, I can't get through this.
<v Speaker 2>But I got gifted a set of antlers, which was
<v Speaker 2>really neat. So they liked me and they wanted me
<v Speaker 2>around up there apparently.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I've heard that from other people as well. All right, Steve. Yeah, well,
<v Speaker 1>I appreciate you for sharing your experiences and we'll speak
<v Speaker 1>again in the future.
<v Speaker 2>All right, awesome, thank you, looking forward to it.
<v Speaker 1>All right, thank you, you have a good night. Mean
<v Speaker 1>all right, Steve, thank you very much for sharing your
<v Speaker 1>bigfoot encounters and experiences from the state of Oklahoma. And
<v Speaker 1>it certainly does sound like an active area. These creatures
<v Speaker 1>do move around, so at times it seems like they
<v Speaker 1>are there, there's a lot going on, and eventually you
<v Speaker 1>go back and nothing happens, and it makes you wonder
<v Speaker 1>what the heck happened to these creatures and where did
<v Speaker 1>they go? That happened with me many years ago and
<v Speaker 1>I was having bigfoot activity. I had a few encounters
<v Speaker 1>and it seemed like every so often something strange happened,
<v Speaker 1>and eventually it was like these things never existed. So
<v Speaker 1>I can see why people become very skeptical of the
<v Speaker 1>existence of sasquatch. And yeah, I apologize guys for the
<v Speaker 1>bad audio. For some reason, the audio was very clipped
<v Speaker 1>and there was a lot of disturbances. So I did
<v Speaker 1>purchase some new gear and I had to put it
<v Speaker 1>on the credit card. This channel is becoming very expensive.
<v Speaker 1>Things are breaking left and right, and nothing electronics seems
<v Speaker 1>to last forever, unfortunately, and it's very expensive, so any
<v Speaker 1>support that you guys can give me would be greatly appreciated.
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, I appreciate everyone for tuning in today and
<v Speaker 1>for all the listeners out there, I hope you guys
<v Speaker 1>are doing well and until the next one, be safe
<v Speaker 1>out in the forest.

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