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Speaker 2: We tried, We tried, we tried. Horrible loss for the Bengals. Horrible because all you got to do is kind of stay five hundred ish and then maybe Joe Burrow comes back. You have a chance. Steelers lost, Brown's lost. The Ravens and do not count them out. It is crazy to say this. And if you look at the schedule, you know they got winnable games here. They can kind of get back to five hundred. Now they have a game on Thursday. Here's my big question. If you're the Ravens, do you let Lamar Jackson sit one more game or do you have to have him play on Thursday night against Miami. Get to that halfway point in the season. That's a big decision. Although I thought he was playing, and I think the betters thought that he was playing. It went from six and a half to I think one and a half, and then they ended up beating the Bears. First Hour brought to you by Maco. They want to send you to Super Bowl Week and you can also get a paint job and more. Go to Danpatrick dot com a chance to win. Get official rules, no purchase necessary, void in Alaska and Hawaii. So it ends eleven, twenty three, twenty five. You got to be eighteen or older. But you can join us in San Francisco and watch us do our show live. Okay, so busy Sports Weekend, World Series Title a game apiece Game three coming up tonight, Seaton. What's the poll question from the first hour of the program.

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Speaker 4: Well, as always, we usually start Monday off with who had the worst weekend?

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Speaker 2: And we like to populate that.

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Speaker 4: I was just looking over I haven't put this list together just yet, but it was a bad week for second chance backups. Okay, I'm putting Kirk Cousins in that category.

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Speaker 2: I got man Raheem Morris might be on the warm seat here, and Bijon Robinson didn't do anything. That's a tough team, you know. Drake Linden was banged up. I believe Michael Pennix Junior, the third was out. Kirk Cousins oh Man not good. Yeah, Seaton, you can't.

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Speaker 4: That seems to be a like teen culture issue there, right. You can't have that many name brand players, so to speak, not perform.

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Speaker 3: It seems like we keep waiting for them.

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Speaker 4: Okay, look at all these guys they got go be good, go be good?

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Speaker 5: Not good?

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Speaker 3: Who else is on the list?

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Speaker 4: Well, I would put Sam Darnold on the bad week for second chance backups. Maybe, Uh, let's see we also have weekend Sam.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, not Sam, do my bed not Sam do?

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Speaker 2: Uh?

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Speaker 4: Forget about that. I wrote that down wrong. I could jump to best college football job opening right now. LSU, penn State, Florida other.

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Speaker 2: Okay, well, Brian Kelly had a bad week, and uh, this is very snarky, but we had some people reach out to Fritzie and ask if he was going to get the Brian Kelly LSU clothes because Brian Brian Kelly sent me his notreed ame gear extra large, and I gave.

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Speaker 3: Him all to Fritzie to make some room in the club.

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Speaker 2: So we got some LSU gear there with Brian Kelly that maybe may be coming your way.

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Speaker 6: Todd, Yes, Paul, And everything's about comparisons. Brian Kelly leaves Notre Dame because he couldn't win a national title there. Notre Dame is doing very well and in the playoffs every year, it's always in comparison where you left and what you're doing now.

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Speaker 3: Yep, that's a big buy out.

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Speaker 2: That seems to be the rage here and this is the new college football. There's going to be more of this because if you're spending that kind of money on your coach, that kind of money on your players, you don't have the patience that you once did. And I think that's what you're seeing. Whether it's Penn State or LSU or Oklahoma State, they want to see what are we doing? And then you'll get these teams like Arizona State or SMU or Indiana and they kind of come out of nowhere and you're like, wait a minute. I thought we were supposed to be the blue blood powerhouse here, but Brian Kelly, it was never a good fit. We talked about I think I've talked about it just about every week. It felt like there was something that was going to happen there and not a good thing. And you lose at home, But sometimes it's where you lose and how much you lose by and you get blown out by Texas A and M. And if you're there and you're a Booster alumni, it hurts even more. And you know your patients say, we're losing three games. You're the one who talked about national championship. You're the one that talked about hey keeping receids here. Brian Kelly never fit there. There's certain places where, especially in the SEC where you go that doesn't fit. It doesn't mean he's not a good coach. He's proven that that he's a really good coach. I think there is this I don't like Brian Kelly because of his personality or how he is on the sidelines or how he is in a press conference. He's a good coach, but I think there's people who look at him and they don't like him because of his personality. Now, he didn't win big games, and just ask James Franklin, you got to win those games, especially at home. This was supposed to be a team that was going to compete for a national championship or at least be in the playoffs, and it just you got three years. It feels like, and I don't care who you are, you got three years. I mean they may run Dabbo Sweeney out of Clemson. I didn't think that would ever happen. But James Franklin, Yeah, nice, here's some parting gifts. Brian Kelly, we gave you a chance. Now we move on.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: It is weird because it does feel like there is no scandal, there is no anything. We just don't like you. It's like personality based with Brian Kelly. It kind of feels like we just don't like you and how you are, rather than there.

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Speaker 2: Is no cheating scandal.

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Speaker 3: There is no other.

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Speaker 4: Big blow up. He didn't hit somebody he didn't like. There's no other thing like that. It's just you.

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Speaker 3: Eight seven seven to three.

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Speaker 2: DP show email address Dpadanpatrick dot com, Twitter handle at DP shows. We always do every Monday best and Worst of the weekend. The strength and conditioning coach who was at LSU, I think for about twenty two to twenty three years Tommy Moffatt. He's the strengthened conditioning coach at Texas A and M. During practice apparently they had a picture of Brian Kelly on a tackling dummy, and so the strengthened conditioning coach was very proud of what he did and what A and M did at LSU. Brian Kelly let him go. Okay, so phone calls coming up. By the way, Fritzy's Broncos great performance against the Dallas Cowboys. Not that you had anything to do with it, but congratulations.

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Speaker 3: I send them vibes.

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Speaker 5: Through the TV. I like to believe that, you know the louder Ice screaming act, that it affects the alchemy.

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Speaker 3: You got your Broncos gear on today.

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Speaker 2: Well with the old retro stuff, because that's the awesome helmet uniform.

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Speaker 5: I know Paulie loves it too.

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Speaker 2: Seaton's here, Marv, Paulie yours truly the Brgs as well. We talked about this with the MVP in the NFL, it's going to go to a quarterback. That's why they came up with the Offensive Player of the Year, which I hate, I think it's embarrassing, is Jonathan Taylor. The MVP right now? Is he the most valuable player? Considering what his team is doing and what he's doing. He's averaging six yards to carry fourteen touchdowns on pace for eighteen hundred yards, and you would be surprised where he ranks in the MVP candidates on DraftKings. Your MVP right now is Patrick Mahomes. His numbers aren't great. Now do I think they're still the best team in the AFC? I do, even at a pedestrian four and three record. Josh Allen is second, Drake may third, Baker Mayfield Junior third, and Matthew Stafford, then Jared Goff, then Daniel Jones, then Jonathan Taylor. Okay, now this is Vegas. You know this DraftKings and their odds here, but Jonathan Taylor is the most valuable player right now in the NFL. It's just we don't want to acknowledge. The last time we had an MVP was what five Adrian Peterson O six Jonathan And we've seen running backs get two thousand yards and it's like, yeah, okay, we're gonna give it to Josh Allen or Lamar Jackson in previous years. Jonathan Taylor, to me, is the leading candidate in my opinion from MVP. But this is what I saw yesterday. You know, he's leading candidate for Offensive Player of the Year. Like, okay, that's that's what his job is offensively, he's the best player offensively. Is he not eligible for the MVP? It's sort of like a running back with the Heisman. Wait, is he allowed to win this?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, Paul Adrian Peterson won it in twenty twelve, but he needed the story to come off the injury from the year before, so he needed the bonus story. Tomlinson got it in two thousand and six. Seawn Alexander two thousand and five. That's it for the past twenty.

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Speaker 2: Four Okay, Yeah, AP was in twenty twelve or twenty eleven.

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Speaker 3: You said twenty twelve.

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Speaker 2: Okay, then Ladanian Tomlinson prior to that, but that was a different NFL with Ladanian Tomlinson.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that was surprising.

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Speaker 2: But we keep using the Offensive Player of the Year like Christian McCaffrey, Beyon, he's Offensive Player.

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Speaker 5: Of the Year.

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Speaker 3: Can he be most valuable?

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Speaker 2: And it doesn't feel like the voters that they're going to acknowledge that. It's like running backs are the best supporting Actors. They can't win Best Actor, they can win Supporting Actor, Yes, paulm.

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Speaker 6: Can we combine a vote for Jonathan Taylor and Daniel Jones like a combo platter for.

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Speaker 3: MVP Jonathan Jones?

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Speaker 5: Yes?

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Speaker 3: And Daniel Jones has done.

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Speaker 2: Really, really well And the biggest thing is no turnovers.

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Speaker 3: That's the key.

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Speaker 2: Daniel Jones can play, and he's playing at a higher level than probably a lot of people thought. You got a good offensive line, you got a great running back, and the Colts taking advantage of Okay, they got a couple of breaks, you know, the game against the Broncos, the game against the Chargers. Chargers were banged up, under manned, but they still won those games. And you win on the road against the Chargers, And yes, you'd still beat a very good Broncos team, Yes, Marvion.

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Speaker 7: But do you think Daniel Jones' reputation will keep him from getting real MVP.

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Speaker 3: Bo Yes, Yes, he's not gonna win MVP.

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Speaker 7: He'd be the most random MVP ever, correct, besides Mark Moseley.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well that was a kicker matchin you have the highest offense, highest scoring offense, and we're gonna give it to a kicker.

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Speaker 3: A kicker, yes, smart.

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Speaker 7: If the Cowboys made the playoffs, now better kicker would be the MVP.

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Speaker 3: No Dak, No Dak.

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Speaker 2: I even saw a headline said, did Dak lose the MVP by a subpar performance.

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Speaker 3: Against the Broncos.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, well, we're really trying to get the Cowboys in the conversation there and I Jerry Jones finally said uncle. He finally said, okay, maybe we don't have a good defense here. No, Jerry, you do not have a good defense. That's why you reached out to the Bengals for Trey Hendrickson and to the Raiders for Max Crosby because you had Micah Parsons. And that's the big difference here. I truly thought with Micah Parsons they were a playoff team. Without him, you can't score enough points. And going against Denver, that Denver team is great defensively, although Patrick Sertan banged up his shoulder, but you know, they they have the most sacks and they've bellowed the fewest sacks. It's a great combo platter for the Broncos.

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Speaker 2: Andy Staples covers college football for on three Sports. He was at the Florida Gators game with miss State Billy Napier's last game, and he's got Penn State Ohio State coming up on Saturday. But the big story is Brian Kelly at LSU. Could Brian Kelly have kept his job for another week for the LSU Alabama game?

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Speaker 8: I mean, I don't know if he could have or not.

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Speaker 10: The way they lost to Texas A and M, I think the wheels were turning. There were multiple reports and we heard a lot of different things about you know, was he going to make certain staff changes? Did he push back on other staff changes? I don't think it mattered. I think the way they lost to Texas A and M, they were passing the hat essentially in the luxury suites during the game, saying hey, can you help fund the buy out? So it didn't matter at that point. And then you know, the governor gets involved. They have a meeting at the governor's mansion last night, Like what's the governor decides you're fired.

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Speaker 8: You're going to be fired.

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Speaker 3: Why was this doomed from the beginning?

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Speaker 10: You know, I just don't think Brian Kelly understood the job he was taking. You go back to the comments after the Florida game where he said the fans are spoiled. Well, of course they're spoiled. The last three coaches at LSU won national titles by year four, but he made mistakes at the beginning. So he gets there, he fires Tommy Moffett, their longtime strength coach. Tommy Moffitt was the strength coach for Nick Saban for Less Miles, for ed ors ron So for three national titles.

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Speaker 8: And what does Tommy moffittt do?

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Speaker 10: He goes and gets the job at Texas A and M with Mike Elko and makes it his life mission to create a tougher team than LSU.

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Speaker 8: And what has happened the last two years.

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Speaker 10: In the second half, Texas A and M has annihilated LSU. When you don't recognize you have something special and there are certain things that make the place special and you just dump them right off the bat, you don't understand what you've gotten yourself into.

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Speaker 3: What's Brian Kelly's future.

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Speaker 10: I mean, he's sixty four years old, so he's he's told people he wants to coach. My question is would he take any of the jobs that will hire him right now? And there's a duty to mitigate in his bio. So he's got a fifty three million dollar buyout. If he gets another job, the salary comes off the total for LSU. It's it's interesting because I think, you know, depending on the interpretation, the duty to mitigate sometimes is all almost like an unemployment check, like you have to be looking for work. So I think of the b Arthur scene in History of the World Part one, Gladiator, Did you did you kill today?

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Speaker 8: Have you tried to kill this week? Like I think that may be more more what there is to it.

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Speaker 10: I mean, listen, Dan, if it were me and somebody handed me fifty three million dollars to not work, you would never ever see me again.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but you can't leave the coaching world, community fraternity this way if I mean, that's not the way these guys are wired. You know, That's why I'm trying to bring back urban Meyer. We're trying to bring back Nick Shaban. You know, you keep going, we are, but they're not.

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Speaker 3: Do you'd think Urban.

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Speaker 2: Meyer is Is he entertaining the thought of maybe coaching at Penn State?

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Speaker 8: I think he entertains it for a day or two and then he thinks, man, that was a lot of work.

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Speaker 10: When I was a college football coach, I got a pretty good gig at Fox Right now.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I agree the same thing with Saban. Everybody goes your first call should be Nick Saban, and I go. Nick Saban is not going to come out of retirement to do this. The current landscape at college football sent him to ESPN. But Sian Kelly, at sixty four, I can't believe this is his last act.

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Speaker 8: It's gonna be.

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Speaker 10: Interesting because it probably will depend on what sort of jobs he can get now, if he winds up back at Central Michigan or that level of job, which is a place he worked on his way up, I just can't imagine him just taking that. And so we'll see there's gonna be a lot of jobs open, Dan, So not just the big ones that are open now, but you could see two Lane open Memphis open because those coaches went into other jobs. Would Brian Kelly take one of those jobs? I don't know, And that's that's the tricky part, because I don't think he's going to get hired for one of these big ones, especially.

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Speaker 8: Not after the way things went an LS here.

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Speaker 2: How hot is Lane Kiffin today?

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Speaker 10: He is the hottest name in the coaching carousel. We were joking on my show last night the scene in Breaking Bad where Huele just lays on the pile of money, that's Lane Kiffin right now because Ole Miss wants to keep him. Florida wants him bad. He's Florida's first choice. I imagine Lsu wants him to And if you're laying until somebody hits the dollar figure you're looking for, you.

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Speaker 8: Just keep milking this thing. Like I don't know what he's going to do.

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Speaker 10: I don't know if he wants to stay at ole Miss, if he wants to go to Florida, if he wants to go to LSU. But I wouldn't do anything until the cash register stops spinning.

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Speaker 3: What do you think he will do?

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Speaker 10: It's so hard to predict him, because you know, if they'd lost to Oklahoma this weekend, you could envision maybe ole Miss missing the playoff.

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Speaker 8: Maybe he's available, Maybe he says, oh, I.

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Speaker 10: Can't make the playoff here, there's probably a ceiling that I need to go somewhere else where there's a higher ceiling. But look after they beat Oklahoma, you're look at the rest of their schedule. They're probably going to go eleven in one. If they lose something they shouldn't lose, they'll be ten and two and they'll probably still make the playoff. So if you can make the playoff, if you can compete for the SEC title, you can win the national title at ole Miss. So I don't know that there's a huge ceiling argument between ole Miss and Florida and LSU. I think it comes down to where do you want to work, and then that's that's a different question. And I don't know if I can answer that one. For Lane Kiffin, I think that's that's going to be his personal preference.

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Speaker 3: Rank the job openings right now, LSU's.

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Speaker 10: Number one, and then I'd say Florida and Penn State are are kind of two and two A. And the reason I say LSU's number one and I went to Florida, so I get a lot of heat at home for this. But LSU has had three of their last four coaches win the national title.

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Speaker 8: One of those is Nick Saban, so all time great coach?

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Speaker 10: Do we think Less Miles and Odo oz Ron are all time great coaches? I'm not sure about that, but they both won national titles there Florida, Steve Spurrier won a national title.

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Speaker 8: Urban Meyer one two. That is two Hall of Fame head coaches.

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Speaker 10: So at Florida you might have to be a Hall of Fame head coach to get there. At LSU, you don't necessarily have to be that. And that's why I give them the nod. And in Florida and Penn State, they're both programs where you can win the national title. They're both programs where we can be very, very successful. But there's going to be a ton of pressure and they like Florida has had a quick hook. Think about this. You know since Urban Meyer, four coaches fired within four years. They do not tolerate mediocrity at Florida. And the thing is you've got to be pretty special to get above that.

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Speaker 2: Talking Andy State, Polesy covers college football on three Sports, it's Penn State in Ohio State. He'll be at that game coming up on Saturday. What's Penn State do.

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Speaker 10: It's a great question, Dan, because you know, the obvious connection at first was Matt Ruhle, who's at Nebraska now. He worked with the Penn.

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Speaker 8: State A D.

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Speaker 10: Pat Kraft when he was the head coach at Temple and Pat was the Temple ad. But I'm not sure that Matt needs to move. I think Matt probably needs to stay where he is in Nebraska. And then you look at the landscape and there's not like an obvious Lane Kiffin that Florida wants in LSU wants for Penn State.

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Speaker 8: So you can look at.

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Speaker 10: The guys that are having success, like I think people should look at Jeff Brohm at Louisville, at Eli Drinkwoit's at Missouri. Those are guys that have taken situations where it shouldn't be that easy to win, and they've done really well, like Jeff brom took Purdue to the Big Ten championship game, immediately made a Louisville better.

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Speaker 8: So those are types of guys that should have at Penn State.

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Speaker 10: Should also look at Bob Chesney if you want to look at a Signetti and what he did at Indiana, look at the profile. He was James Madison's head coach and before that he was Elon's head coach. So he had this level by level get better every time. That's kind of what Bob Chesney's done. He went from Holy Cross to James Madison. Very successful, very good recruiter of the Northeast.

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Speaker 8: So that's a guy you should look at.

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Speaker 10: And I know James Madison sitting here going, oh, come on, we just lost Signetty.

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Speaker 3: Please don't do this to us.

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Speaker 2: Could Penn State hire a Vanderbilt head coach? Could they do that again?

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Speaker 10: Clark Lee, Yeah, you know, I think you can do that. It's really interesting, Dan, because I hate the whole idea of, well, we can't hire a guy from the school that we've hired from before, or we can't hire a group of fivephead coach because we did that before.

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Speaker 8: I think enough time passed.

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Speaker 10: And also I think James Franklin was a successful hire at Penn State. He won them a Big Ten title, he was there a long time, so it's not like hiring the Vanderbilt coach again.

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Speaker 8: Is the same thing that you just did.

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Speaker 10: And in fact, if it works out the way James Franklin worked out, that's a good that's.

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Speaker 8: A good outcome. It's a good result.

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Speaker 10: So yes, Clark Lee would be a very good choice at Penn State. He'd be a very good choice at LSU or Florida as well. But he's he's at his alma mater. And that's what's interesting about this. There's a bunch of good coaches right now at their alma mater. So it's to take a little bit more to get like a Clark Lee, a Kenny Dillingham at Arizona State, a Brent Key at Georgia Tech. Because they're they're at their alma maters.

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Speaker 2: The impact on NIL with the coaches because these buyouts, you know, patients is running thin. You got three years, it feels like, but the expectation level of we're going to pay you ten million dollars. We're gonna pay your players a total of twenty one million dollars.

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Speaker 3: This is the future.

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Speaker 2: I'm guessing with college football that this is the transfer portal in NIL and the coaches, I would say, paying the price, but they get paid to pay the price.

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Speaker 10: I was gonna say, they're not paying the price. They're still getting guaranteed gobs of money. What they need to do is the ads need to figure out how to guarantee less money than they're guaranteeing.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 10: You shouldn't have to pay as big of a buyout as you did for Jimbo Fisher or James Franklin or Brian Kelly. That's the AD's fault for getting knocked in the creek by an agent.

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Speaker 8: The solution may be.

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Speaker 10: Actually, and the person who told me this actually works with actors in Hollywood, and they said they had to change the model when Netflix and the streaming services came in because you didn't have residuals and mailbox money, so they started front loading the contracts.

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Speaker 8: And this person's like, what they.

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Speaker 10: Need to do is pay them an obscene amount of money per year, guaranteed for three years. But it doesn't need to be guaranteed for six or seven years like they're doing now. Because it used to be dan before the Anile era, you had to have four years on your contract, so you can go into mama's house and be like, see, I'm going to be here the entire time your son's here.

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Speaker 8: And even though we all know that was a lie, the players aren't stupid. They all have agents.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 10: It doesn't matter how long you have on the coach's contract. So offer them more money than they think they're going to get, but guarantee it for three years. That way, if they suck for two years, you can dump out.

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Speaker 2: I've been saying that. I mean, Kurt Signetti is a great story. I never would have given somebody ten years.

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Speaker 3: That's in a.

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Speaker 8: Ninety five million dollars.

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Speaker 2: It's crazy. He's done a great job. I love it. But the most I would ever give his five years. And even then, how about I give you, like you know, actors get back end money.

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Speaker 3: After a movie. Is his some residuals? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: What if I said to the coach, hey, we're going to give you a back end money on the profits that we have with our football program.

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Speaker 10: I don't know that you can sell a piece of the program, especially at State Universe. But think about this, Dan, It's ninety five million dollars is how much they guaranteed Kurt Signetti.

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Speaker 8: If you paid him fifteen million.

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Speaker 10: Dollars a year for three years, you're only guaranteeing him forty five million.

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Speaker 8: And if it works out, great, then been given another deal. But if it doesn't, then you're not tied up.

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Speaker 10: And he would have taken that because it had made him the highest paid coach.

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Speaker 3: Can Indiana win the national title? Yes?

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Speaker 10: This Indiana team camp, This Indiana team is loaded. They got a bunch of NFL dudes Kurtzy that he tried to tell us and we didn't listen. But they brought back almost all of what made last year's team special. And then they upgraded at quarterback when they got Fernanda Mendoza at cal So they absolutely can compete with anybody.

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Speaker 3: Great to talk to you again, Andy, Thank you, Thank you. Dan.

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Speaker 2: My goal is to not upset coach Kauer today. He's nice enough to spend time with us, and it feels like every time I have him on right at the end of the interview, I somehow say something that upsets you. Good morning, coach, Good morning Dan.

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Speaker 5: I think it's a listic goal that you have for this morning. Thank you for sharing that with me.

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Speaker 3: You get upset when you watch games.

00:27:09
Speaker 5: I don't get upset. I get disappointed when I see bad calls. I get disappointed when I see irresponsible decisions, But I don't get upset. I got upset when I was coaching, though I did get upset.

00:27:28
Speaker 2: Did you ever have an official say my bad I miss that.

00:27:32
Speaker 3: I'm sorry?

00:27:34
Speaker 5: Well no, I mean I would stand beside him and I would say, I know you can't look up there, but trust me, you will be downgraded if you don't change this call. So I tried to lay out the circumstances and maybe the consequences of them not changing the call. But we have the expedited reviews now. But even to that, to some extent, I mean, I think last night he was a prime example. It was another great weekend for the officiating.

00:28:02
Speaker 2: Okay, how upset would you be if you were still coaching the Steelers after that? Performance by the defense last night.

00:28:10
Speaker 5: Well, I mean, listen, I think there was some pivotal moments in there. I think it was a very good first half. I mean, you go into a game, you go into halftime, you have sixteen to seven, You get the ball coming out the second half, you got a quarterback who's very good with cadence, gets them to jump off side, takes a shot down the field and it's not even called. I thought that was a very pivotal point in the game because you always talk about the last two minutes in the first, last four, first four coming out, and that was a chance. You know, if it's third down and three, there's a different play call third down and three, and it's you have midfield, maybe even go for it on fourth down. And then you turn around and you the very next to the series, you get pressure on Jordan Love, he throws a ball, it's up for grabs, I mean, and it turns into a eighty yard or seventy few yards reception that leads to a touchdown. So I think it's kind of spiraled out of hand at that point. But that was a very pivotal time in the game. So I don't think you got to be careful by looking and describing a whole game saying the defense was this, the defense was that there was a few plays there, because I saw first half where they got after him pretty good, and I mean green Bay held up to seven points. And that's so I don't think I think I'd be very careful at this point of trying to overanalyze something.

00:29:29
Speaker 2: If you're the Browns, why would you hold onto Miles Garrett and maybe not trade him and realize, let's get some first round picks and you know, we got to figure this out, We got to restart.

00:29:42
Speaker 5: He's a generational player, Dan, you know, I don't think he's trade generational players. And you know, that's a total total start over. We've seen a lot of teams rebound and come back. This is a good defense. This is a offense that's still trying to find its way with a young quarterback. And you know, again, I think you're looking at National Football League. They're still at a point with what there's still only three games out of first place. So I mean, so I think again, the whole getting rid of people and are trying to buy people, and I think if you're close, you go get someone. But I think if you're going to take a player off your team, it's not a great message to sending the rest of the players on your team. Are you giving up on this season? And now? I expect them to go out there the second half of this season to build something and maybe take into the next year, because I think there's a lot to be said for that. So I don't think you get rid of generational players.

00:30:38
Speaker 2: What do you do if you're the Cowboys where you know you have a really good offense, but you're missing that pass rusher that you traded to Green Bay right.

00:30:47
Speaker 5: And you have some draft equity there moving forward, but to take advantage of this time right now, I think at least making some attempt to upgrade that defense, because you're right, they have too much of a special offense. You don't know what's gonna happen with George Pickens at the end of the year where he's at, you know he's gonna be up for a contract, So I think you try to go out to see what you see what's out there. You do have some draft equity to work with, maybe acquire somebody, but there's a lot of issues they have on the defensive side of the ball. Obviously getting a pass rusher. It starts right there. If had some injuries in the secondary, but I think he's still in the hunt right now. When you look at the Dallas Cowboys, you're still right there. I would absolutely try to upgrade that defense.

00:31:31
Speaker 2: What did you make of the Cowboy or the Steelers uniforms last night?

00:31:36
Speaker 5: I don't like them at all. I think it's I mean throwback.

00:31:41
Speaker 3: I don't know would you have objected to that?

00:31:43
Speaker 2: Would you have made an executive did you have veto power on anything?

00:31:48
Speaker 3: Like?

00:31:48
Speaker 5: Are you trying to get me upset? I see where you're going? Do I see where you're going with this? You are we're talking good foot. You were right into the you said you're going to try. You said you were going to try it.

00:32:03
Speaker 3: I did try. I failed. Coach, I failed?

00:32:06
Speaker 5: Okay, okay?

00:32:07
Speaker 2: Can you vtail those uniforms if you were the head coach?

00:32:10
Speaker 5: I I don't know if I could, I would make every attempt to do. I would not try to upset anybody, but I'd let them know that is not my favorite uniform, particularly on that particular night. Go insto the Green Bay Packers, and I know maybe that decision was made beforehand maybe or maybe not. But boy, we could change it if you had to. Really can't we? I mean, I don't know.

00:32:32
Speaker 3: It looked like they had khaki pants on. Coach.

00:32:36
Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't know. Yeah. The talk wasn't much better. It was not much better.

00:32:42
Speaker 2: That was That was rough. We're talking to the Hall of Fame coach Bill Kower once again. I'm trying not to upset him. Why can't it running back win MVP?

00:32:51
Speaker 5: Well, I said, glad you brought that up, and I agree with you. I mean, if you go back historically, the last three running backs to win that national MVPs have been Marshall Falk, Ladanian, Tomlinson and Sewn Alexander and all three of them after eight games had a total fourteen touchdowns, which is the same path Jonathan Taylor is on. And Jonathan Taylor to me, with the football team that I think is the best in football right now. You look what they can do on offense with him, Daniel Jones is playing at a very high level. Their defense you can talk of being their thirredon takeaways, are top five in defensive scoring. Louis and a Rumo I think has been one of the best offseason acquisitions. I think in the National Football League, I would put him on the defensive side. I'd put Josh McDaniel on the offensive side with what he's done with Drake May and Mike Grabel. So I don't think there's I think there's a legitimate argument. We keep talking about the quarterbacks, and I know that the quarterbacks are this, but that football team, the heartbeat and the soul of that team is Jonathan Taylor, and that being the Indianapolis Colts, who have the best record in football.

00:33:58
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what I say.

00:34:00
Speaker 2: You got fourteen touchdowns, he's unpaced for eighteen hundred yards. Yeah, but he would have to do he'd have to surpass Sewn Alexander touchdown total before I think the voters would notice because two thousand yards. We've seen that, and they give you that cop Out award the Offensive Player of the Year.

00:34:18
Speaker 5: I don't disagree with you, but that football team, to me, again, not take nothing away from Daniel Jones, he's been great, but you take Jonathan Taylor off that team, it's not the same offense. And I don't know if you could say that about other quarterbacks because to me, it's been about the quarterbacks. I think the running back has supplemented that and has been a complimentary part of that with the quarterbacks where its Patrick Mahomes, Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson, because they also bring an element of rushing to that. But you look at this football team. To me, Daniel Jones compliments Jonathan Taylor. Yeah, not the other way around.

00:34:54
Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree. What was the highlight of your NFL career.

00:35:00
Speaker 5: Winning a Super Bowl in my fourteenth year?

00:35:02
Speaker 3: No, as a player, I don't have many of them.

00:35:06
Speaker 5: Okay, So, so I blocked a punt against the New York Giants in nineteen eighty three. You're trying to get me upset.

00:35:15
Speaker 3: I'm asking you to open your scrap books. Okay, I am.

00:35:19
Speaker 8: I am.

00:35:21
Speaker 5: Your career like winning Super Bowl? No, you're playing career. I was a specialties player and I did play for five years. I did block a pun against Ali Jaji Chik and the New York Giants at the same time. I think Bill Belichick was on that staff. So I did block a punt for a touchdown. It was in Week three. I was at the Philadelphia Eagles and they were playing in New York Giants en Giants Stadium, So I guess that would be my career highlight, a block punt. I actually looked this up. I was trying to see I can find it, and I actually found it. You have to dig deep into the archives of the Internet to find us. But I did block an Ali Haji Sheikh, who was in because of a hurt day Jennings and I came in there and actually.

00:36:02
Speaker 11: He first first highlight that was first ever minor da all right, I'm just I'm a journalist here.

00:36:14
Speaker 5: Okay, But you know what made the call on that, John Madden. I had John Madden do me one of those telestrators you get a so so that I guess would be my highlight as having John Madden do a telestrator on you. So now you're trying to get me upset because you had to see.

00:36:30
Speaker 2: I know your highlight was winning a Super.

00:36:32
Speaker 5: Bowl, Okay, I know that, okay, and I gave you my my player highlight.

00:36:37
Speaker 3: But why why are you angry?

00:36:39
Speaker 5: Because I'm not actually excited to talk about this because I did have John Madden do a telestrator on me blocking a punt that which was pretty cool. Right. Have you ever had John Madden do a telestrator when you when you were doing an interview. No, no, okay, but see experienced nothing you haven't.

00:36:57
Speaker 2: America just learned that you blocked a punt and National TV and John Madden illustrated it. They never could have known that. But that's me doing investigative work in asking real questions.

00:37:10
Speaker 5: And the question was, oh, was that his first punt?

00:37:13
Speaker 8: No?

00:37:13
Speaker 3: And that was his first punt?

00:37:15
Speaker 5: Oh, so you did know that, Yes.

00:37:17
Speaker 3: It was his first.

00:37:18
Speaker 2: Ali Haji Sheikh was a kicker and he had to come in for Dave Jennings, who was the former player rep of the Giants. I might have been that game, A great what's that game at the Meadowlands?

00:37:30
Speaker 5: Yes?

00:37:31
Speaker 3: I might have been there.

00:37:33
Speaker 5: Wow, you don't remember my greatest play of my career. You do remember the play? I think remember the play?

00:37:40
Speaker 3: I might?

00:37:42
Speaker 4: I might?

00:37:44
Speaker 5: Wait, but so so, did you really look this up? Or is this was something that just you knew that that that Oli only had one punt and it was blocked and you did not know it was me.

00:37:55
Speaker 3: I did not know it was you. Okay, this is fact Tha trying to.

00:38:02
Speaker 2: Get Ali Haji Sheik on the show today to surprise you.

00:38:07
Speaker 5: Wow, thank you, and you're making me happy. Now, this is pretty cool. You're like going down memory lane with some of my eyelights.

00:38:13
Speaker 2: Because your wife is not asking you this stuff. She doesn't care.

00:38:18
Speaker 5: No, I tell her every now reminder I did play.

00:38:24
Speaker 3: Do you remind her? Yeah, do you remind her?

00:38:28
Speaker 5: Well, just now, like I know, he's a little bit of what I'm talking about it. I know after the fact, you're always have all the right answers, But now I didn't always have the right answers. I made some bad calls at times too.

00:38:39
Speaker 2: But I would I would hate to have to interview you like that halftime interview.

00:38:45
Speaker 5: That would be good, right, like when you're.

00:38:47
Speaker 2: Losing and then you know, I say, hey, what kind of adjustments are you going to make in the second half?

00:38:52
Speaker 3: Coach?

00:38:53
Speaker 2: Multiple even if you're winning, I don't want to interview you.

00:39:00
Speaker 5: You know you for Winnie, I got So what do you How do you feel about the first half? It doesn't matter because it's only a matter. Thing that matters is the second half. Next question.

00:39:10
Speaker 2: Once again, I don't think there's a good question that I could ask you where I was going to go, Okay, we got something else?

00:39:16
Speaker 5: You maybe ask you what's what's the greatest joy.

00:39:19
Speaker 8: Of your playing career.

00:39:22
Speaker 5: I've walked to the pump, all the hues you see.

00:39:27
Speaker 3: Uh, good to talk to you.

00:39:30
Speaker 5: Yes, I don't know.

00:39:31
Speaker 2: I don't know how you you know you're going to find something you know later later today that is going to equally well.

00:39:39
Speaker 5: You know, I look forward to coming on here with you because I just you know, I never know what path you're going down, and so every now and then it's something that's like in the and you do touch base with the now, but you also like to go back into the archives a little bit and just dig into someone's history, dig into someone's emotions, dig into someone's troublesome past at times. And so I appreciate you allowing me to go down memory lane to experience all those things. And I look forward to coming on again, and thank you for still had my bubble head up there.

00:40:15
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I won't.

00:40:17
Speaker 2: But you wore fifty three when you're with the Browns, but fifty seven with the Chiefs.

00:40:23
Speaker 5: Yeah, I was fifty five in high school, fifty four with NC State, fifty three with the Chiefs. I asked for fifty two, but they wouldn't give it to me. So I went the other way and went up to fifty seven.

00:40:37
Speaker 3: Do you have that jersey?

00:40:39
Speaker 5: No, didn't have it for very long Land for two years.

00:40:44
Speaker 3: My career.

00:40:45
Speaker 5: I never stayed in one place a long time man.

00:40:49
Speaker 2: But you did win a Super Bowl in Pittsburgh, and you did block a punt.

00:40:53
Speaker 5: Ah. Thank you for leaving me with. Those are special memories. I appreciate that.

00:40:57
Speaker 2: Thank you, Special teams, legend slash Hall of Fame coach Bill Keller, Thank you, coach.

00:41:03
Speaker 3: Thanks and there he is NFL Today on CBS