Hour 3 – Met Gala Madness, Reggie Miller

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Speaker 1: You are listening to The Dan Patrick Show on Fox Sports Radio Final Hour on this Tuesday. Reggie Miller will stop by in about twenty minutes from now. Stat of the Day has always brought to you by Panini America, the official trading cards of the program. Make sure you go to rectech dot com or e C T e Q dot com search the Dan Patrick Show details on how you can win a grill. On May fifteenth, Chef Greg from Rectech will be here. He's going to cook for us and give away the Rectech grill. Tune in tonight Calves against the Pistons, followed by the Lakers at the Thunder that starts at seven Eastern on NBC and Peacock. The Lakers are last.

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Speaker 2: Glance fourteen and a half point underdog fifteen and a half point underdogs against the Thunder. Calves are three and a half point underdogs against the Pistons. Looking ahead to Wednesday, Draftking sent over the numbers here. Sixers are getting six and a half against the Knicks. Timberwolf are nine and a half point underdogs against the Spurs. Alrighty eight seven seven to three. DP show email address Dpatdanpatrick dot com Twitter handle at DP show, Dylan, would you update the poll results please?

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Speaker 3: I will, Dan, so the last couple of hours we had. If I'm a Knicks fan, I'm thinking finals, baby, or I'm trying not to think about the finals. Fifty seven percent are trying not to think ben Stiller opting for the met Gala over nixt game one. Seventy two percent say week twenty seven percent think it's not a big deal.

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Speaker 2: O they there's I have a problem with the video of Ben Stiller with his wife arriving at the met Gala, And I don't have any problem that he went to the met Gala and missed Game one against the seventy six ers. This is probably something that they had planned, or his wife had planned, and he's gonna live up to the Yes.

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Speaker 4: We will go to the met Gala.

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Speaker 2: If you watch her walking up the steps, he is playing to the cameras, the paparazzi and talking about the Knicks are gonna win in six He's not even helping his wife up the steps with that long train on her dress. There's another woman in the picture who's holding his wife's hand going.

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Speaker 4: Up the steps. He's going, uh yeah, Nixon, sick Yeah. Nixon six.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Meanwhile she's walking up the steps needing help because of the dress that she's wearing. Ah, that's where I have a problem with Ben Stiller, Yes, stilly.

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Speaker 3: I mean I feel like he was probably like, you dragged me to this thing. You're on your own going.

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Speaker 4: Up the steps. You drag me here, You drag yourself up there, and I go to this stupid thing. I don't know what happens there though. That's what I'd be curious about, what goes on there. I got to find somebody who's gone there, Todd, get a hold of Kylie Jenner.

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Speaker 6: For me, it's a very valid point because once they're all showing off their dress and everything, I have no idea. They're just all staring at each other and whispering them angst each other, what ugly or wonderful thing each other is wearing.

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Speaker 7: It's weird.

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Speaker 4: I don't think they say about anything ugly, man.

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Speaker 6: I'm sure there's wispering and cattiness. Like I can't believe she should have been bad, even on a night like this where you're supposed to rest some crazy and I was too crazy.

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Speaker 2: Did anybody from the Devilwares product to go to it, because I would think that would be a perfect movie, uh advertisement product placement where Meryl Streep shows up or with Emily Blunt and with Anne Hathaway Stanley Tucci, you know, interlocking arms.

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Speaker 8: Yes, Paul right on cue Dan, Anne Hathaway, Stanley Tucci and Emily Blunt attended last night.

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Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, yes, Marvin, I was going to say that exact same thing. Okay, all right, good, yeah, and you have to let me know what you guys think of the movie. I'm not going to see it, although I didn't like the first one I did. I appreciate Meryl Street. Uh, she was playing Anna wind Tour.

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Speaker 7: Saw a couple athletes last night, Joe Burrow.

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Speaker 4: Miss Jackson Dart there of the Giants.

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Speaker 7: Jessin, Jefferson, Russell Wilson. Obviously he's a man about town with his wife Sierra.

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Speaker 2: And maybe russ is going to join the CBS pregame show question Mark Stay in New York.

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Speaker 7: Oh yeah, it felt like him going to the Giants, like, you know what, this is a.

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Speaker 2: Great rare move for his wife and him as well if he's going to do TV. But yeah, his wife getting opportunities, I guess to do what she does.

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Speaker 4: Still when I did that movie That's.

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Speaker 2: My Boy, and we were at we were in Indianapolis and that was the Super Bowl and she was at the table behind us, and I remember seeing her in person. It's like, whoa, whoa first ballot Hall of Famer right there, Yanks? Who else was there?

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Speaker 8: Was Vanelle Ice?

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Speaker 4: Ice? Was there? Was Jason Sudeika's there? Or was it Nick Swartson Schwarty's always there? Yeah, because he helps Well he's in the movie too, but Vanilla, I'm trying to think if there was.

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Speaker 2: But they had a whole table. Why is it we didn't get to sit at their table? We were in Indianapolis at the uh Saint Elmo's.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, after the test of the movie.

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Speaker 2: Yes, And I just remember, like we had to sit at the kids table. We didn't get to sit at the celebrity table.

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Speaker 8: I remember. Was it Tom Brady walked in with a TV twelve hat and his crew later that night?

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Speaker 4: Yeah? Yeah, yeah, Mark super random.

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Speaker 7: But so my wife, for some odd reason, met Susan Sarandon maybe about a week ago. She's like, oh, she was so nice. She spoke to me. I was like, she said more words to you than she said to Dan Patrick.

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Speaker 2: I'm in the movie with her. She's kind of in the movie with me, but it's a big prison scene. And I just remember when Sandler and Andy Samberg weren't there talking and it was just her, and then it was us. She had no idea who we were, and you know what, she didn't care who we were either.

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Speaker 4: It was awkward that and she looks gorgeous.

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Speaker 2: She was stunning, and I just I didn't know what to say, and so I didn't say anything, and then she didn't know what to say. She didn't say anything, and then I just turned around and started talking to the Daneuts. Oh man, you think everybody gets along on a movie set or like, you know, hey, you're hanging out with Jennifer Aniston, Nicole Kidman. No, I'm not. I'm just in a scene with them. Small talk, you know what small talk with was Tom Cruise's ex wife, Katie Holmes. He was still married to her, and the first day that he was there, she didn't say much. He left and she had a whole lot to say after that. She's very chatty and I was in a scene with her that was cut out of the movie. Jack and Jill, but she made me cookies, made me cookies, and I'm like, okay, but very very you know, I think she's from Ohio, so it was like an Ohio vibe.

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Speaker 4: We were just chatting like two girlfriends.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, just chatting it up like Marvin does with Michelle Smallman from growing There.

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Speaker 7: Today we see, Yes, you.

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Speaker 4: Were on sports and like.

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Speaker 2: All of a sudden, Evan Cohen and Michelle Smallman come in the you know, friends of the show and they're in Pittsburgh doing their show. They came in to see our show, and Marvin saw Michelle and spun her around a couple of times. Wow, dip, Oh my god.

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Speaker 7: I didn't no such things.

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Speaker 4: Yes you did.

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Speaker 7: Now we were excited to see one of it because we go back to the days at the mother Ship because I was her board out when she was producing and so haven't seen her a while. Hey, just like when you see Richisen, you spun him around.

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Speaker 9: I think Marvin bakeder cookies too.

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Speaker 2: No, I don't know. He didn't spend his wife around on their wedding night like he did Michelle.

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Speaker 4: I was like, oh, I'm going wow. Yeah, Paul was a bit of a ballhog that day.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, you were a ball dominant.

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Speaker 4: Yes, yes, I share the rock. You were James Harden that day.

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Speaker 7: I got so many.

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Speaker 2: Jokes, Yeah, it were you were. We were all waiting to say a lodo, you know, Evan and Michelle. Marvin's like oh and then oh and do you remember when.

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Speaker 4: Fake laughter it.

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Speaker 7: Was real laughter kind of Okay. I feel that way, same way about feel see you got to stumbling, the same way I feel about Michelle. I feel that way about like George Saddan if I see him or no you don't, I'll swing them around too.

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Speaker 9: Yeah you are a swinger.

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna let you off the hook, all right.

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Speaker 7: Oh are you yes?

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Speaker 4: Now I'm letting you off the hook.

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Speaker 10: All right.

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Speaker 2: Let me get a couple of phone calls. Oh by the way, just had a source say, uh hey, just to let you know that I have confirmed the top schools in football will be trending towards fifty million dollars this year. Basketball top programs may near third dollars for just one year. This is before regulation comes in. Like everybody's trying to, you know, get their money. We're losing Olympic sports as well, tennis, field, hockey, swimming, like there's gonna be sports that are kicked to the curb because every dollar that you'd be spending on those sports, you could be spending that dollar or dollars on football and basketball. But fifty million dollars for a football roster and close to thirty million for a top basketball program. Jack in Michigan, Good morning, Jack, what's on your mind today?

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Speaker 5: Hello?

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Speaker 10: Dan? Hi Jack, Dan, I've got a couple ideas for your final show for some gifting options.

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Speaker 4: Oh okay, the.

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Speaker 10: Way I see the show, I think you are like the quarterback of the show, the Dan outside of the lineman. They're doing some of the dirty work, not getting a lot of notoriety, and I think you could do like the quarterbacks do at the end of a good season, maybe get the guys.

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Speaker 2: I'm not buying them, No, I'm not buying them anything. I gave them life. I birthed them. I game careers. Come on, Jack, you don't know, Jack, Yes, Dylan, all.

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Speaker 3: Right, if there's four ATVs sitting here on the last day of the show, I'm not going to be disappointed.

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Speaker 4: You can't have Todd riding in an ATV.

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Speaker 9: Three ATV's in the little tykes.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, uh, you know who knows, who knows what's going to happen, Who knows how we're going to feel about each other when we get closer.

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Speaker 4: Buying gifts for my offensive lineman. Yes, Paul, you gotta get.

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Speaker 8: Todd one of those old people scooters that they scoot around the malls with.

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Speaker 7: Right ready.

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Speaker 4: I would not I would not have him in that.

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Speaker 9: Even even those are a little I don't know if I want to go on the Rascal.

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Speaker 4: I believe Ian and fort Wayne. I Ian, what's on your mind?

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Speaker 10: Hey, Dan?

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Speaker 5: Six two two fifteen, First time, long time grew up with you. Man really appreciates you and the crew. So recently started with listening to the Todd Cast. I guess it would be called, and I started listening in reverse chronological order, So the first one I listened to was just this most recent episode. And I've never knew how much Todd was holding back on the show until I started listening to the podcast and realized how depraved he is. He's like a pinball bouncing all over the place. One of the specific things I learned in the newest episode was Todd's love for soap, and I'll leave it at that. And then The ironic thing is I went to listen to the episode before that and they were talking about the Metro and how Todd didn't like the Metro and his first reason for not liking the Metro was because there's never soap in the restrooms.

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Speaker 6: Okay Ton, Yeah, they're often out of you know, the paper toweling or the toilet isssue, whatever you want to call it. But now that we're in Dude Wipes Lands, I have no issues.

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Speaker 2: Now this is the train going into New York. Yeah, the Metro North.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, Metro North is relatively clean.

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Speaker 6: It's not graffiti and all like the New York City subway you think of growing up. But sometimes that's not kept very well. Even on Metro North. There's things that could be done better that you can't lock the door very well. You hit one bump, the door opens and there you are and all your glory, and a lot of times there's no you can't dry your hands and there's no toilet paper. It's just kind of left for you to replace survivor in Metro North.

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Speaker 4: Basically, more of that on the Toddcast at Danpatrick dot com. When we come back. Reggie Miller will join us after this.

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Speaker 4: Comment away.

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Speaker 2: Reggie Miller, Hall of Famer, NBC lead analysts for the NBA, and he's got what do you have?

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Speaker 4: You got Oklahoma City coming up tonight.

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Speaker 12: And the Lakers tonight Game one.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I don't like when people say the Lakers have no chance. They are They're on the floor. There are other teams. Boston doesn't have a chance. You know, there are a lot of teams that don't have a chance. The Lakers are on the floor, so they have a chance. Now, how much of a chance do they have in series wretch.

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Speaker 13: Look it's a tall order, and look you could base it off their four regular season meetings. The average margin of victory for the Thunder or twenty nine points. Having said all that, that goes out the window because now you start O and O.

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Speaker 12: But things are going to have.

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Speaker 13: They have to play a perfect series to upset the defending champions. And what I mean by that is can't turn the ball over because that is the number one thing.

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Speaker 12: Okay, See, they put so much pressure on you defensively.

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Speaker 13: And they have to shoot the ball at a very high clip, especially from the three, which they're not a great three point shooting team, and they've got to be efficient about it because the Thunder they puts so much pressure on you, they're gonna have to.

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Speaker 12: Rebound with them.

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Speaker 13: But the live ball turnovers will be the story in especially tonight, how the Thunder played defensively because they've got a number of players that love to kind of get up under you and disrupt you.

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Speaker 4: Who would benefit the most from winning a championship this year?

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Speaker 12: Player that's that's still in this Yeah, I think wow.

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Speaker 13: Jalen Brunson, he was a champion at Villanova and how the Knicks are playing right now. I think there's two teams that are so connected. As these second rounds kick off, that's the Thunder, who are getting ready for game one. That first round you could just tell, Okay, we're on a mission to repeat. And the last four games for the New York Knicks, everyone thought the sky was falling when it was one to one, when they went down two one to Atlanta, Oh my god, fire, Mike Brown, what is Michael Briddy? What is wrong? And then their last four games have been spectacular. It just shows me they are so well connected at both ends of the floor. They are playing. The Thunder and the Knicks are the two teams again. I like what Minnesota has done shorthanded. You still have san Antonio on there. But if you're talking about two teams that are so well connected, I'm going with.

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Speaker 12: The Knicks and the Thunder. Okay, and Jalen Brunton to win that championship.

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Speaker 2: You're saying, so you think it would be more impactful, more important for Jalen Brunson to win a title than SGA win another one, Wemby win one, Anthony Edwards to win one.

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Speaker 4: These are all new Lebron to win one. What would a title?

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Speaker 2: Now, okay, might not happen, but if Lebron won a title this year, what would that mean?

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Speaker 13: Okay, Look, he's always in the discussion with MJ. Correct and Kobe to a certain extent. Kobe has five chips, Lebron has four, MJ has six. You can make a case if Lebron want a chip this year, having to go through.

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Speaker 12: The Thunder who are.

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Speaker 13: The defending champs, and let's just say hypothetically the Knicks come out of the East and to go through New York, you can make a case he is.

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Speaker 12: He is the go at.

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Speaker 13: Five chips with three different teams. That's pretty remarkable.

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Speaker 4: Well, the greatest and the best are yes.

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Speaker 12: Totally two different things.

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Speaker 13: The best player, in my opinion, is Michael Jordan, the greatest. If you can make a case if he was to win, this is all Look, he has an uphill battle, trust me.

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Speaker 12: But if he was to win and have to go through.

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Speaker 13: Okay, see and then maybe win the and or ant Man to win the West, and then maybe the Knicks, maybe Kate Cunningham.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, that's that's pretty great, don't you think.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I just don't think Lebron. There's people that are gatekeepers are not letting him in. They'll never ever acknowledge that Lebron is better than Mike. And and I say this.

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Speaker 12: You're saying better and best versus great.

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Speaker 2: I'm saying Mike is the best player. Yeah, Lebron can have the best resume, and there's a difference in that, it doesn't mean that he's better than Mike. Mike didn't have the resume that Lebron. Lebron's resume is unapproachable. I mean, it's incredible what he's done and still doing it. But if you said, who's the greatest player you ever saw, it's Mike. So I don't If Lebron wins, it's it's it's awesome, it'd be unbelievable story. By the way, any update on Luca coming back for the Lakers.

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Speaker 13: From what we're hearing, he hasn't even started on the floor, scrimmaging anything like that, so certainly these first two games he's out.

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Speaker 12: I think we'll probably get more of an update next week. But here's my thing.

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Speaker 13: If I'm the thunder knowing that you know Luca may may not come back in this series.

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Speaker 12: How you approach games one and two.

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Speaker 13: If you put a beat down on the Lakers, Luca could probably say, you.

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Speaker 12: Know what, I'm good.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, we're not gonna But if they let the Lakers hang around, maybe still a game. Now you're giving the Lakers life. The thunder can do themselves a huge, huge pad on the back if they come out and take care of business and set a tone in game one. They're the younger team, they're more fresh, and again, every margin of victory during the four games during the regular season or twenty nine, you cannot give the Lakers any life.

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Speaker 2: I was wondering the I like what Minnesota did bringing Anthony Edwards off the bench. I got to limit his minutes, let him kind of get acclimated. But I wonder do you kind of stay with that for this next game and have that weapon coming off the bench as opposed to let's rush to insert him in the starting lineup.

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Speaker 13: Well, that'll be an ant man decision. Look, they did what they've already had to do. They've stolen the home court. My only question was that was would the knee get stiff. It was a little awkward early on. Once he got warmed up, especially in the second half. I think the second half. He was ant man. I think he was questioning a little bit of his movements early on. But if it ain't broke, don't fix it. You won Game one with him coming off the bench. I don't know why you wouldn't just go back to that, have that pop coming off the bench, and then you can start him once you get back home to Minnesota.

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Speaker 2: The Celtics with their loss, Jalen Brown's comments saying that there's an agenda against him that he says some officials told him there's an agenda calling offensive fouls. Your thoughts on an agenda against Jalen Brown, Well.

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Speaker 13: Number one, call names. You can't say some officials told you that. Call the officials by name, because you're letting that float out there.

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Speaker 12: There's no agenda.

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Speaker 13: The Celtics loss because they refused to diversify their offense.

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Speaker 12: They just lived.

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Speaker 13: All they wanted to do was shoot threes. And I was saying this on a telecast. I don't mind threes. I don't mind the plethora of threes you shoot, but it's how you shoot them. If you're getting the paint collapse of the defense and knocking it out the shooters and they're missing That's one thing. All the Celtics were doing would do a high screen and roll and chuck thirty footers.

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Speaker 12: There's no there's nothing.

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Speaker 13: It's so easy to defend, and I just it was frustrating because that's how they want a championship.

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Speaker 12: But they also had a different roster at that time.

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Speaker 13: You know, they had the holidays and the porzingis it was. They had better shooters as well, so there was no agenda. You guys refuse to change your offense. You just thought you guys can put up fifty.

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Speaker 12: Threes and win.

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Speaker 13: And when you're the playoffs, As you know, Dan, you've been around this game a long time. Once the playoffs hit, you know, you've got to have a mid range game. You've got to be able to make tough twos. And all the Celtics wanted to do was shoot threes and it caught up to them.

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Speaker 4: Can they change, Absolutely, you can change, yes.

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Speaker 2: But are you going to put Tatum down low or Jalen Brown down low?

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Speaker 4: They they don't have them have a.

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Speaker 12: Great mid game. Okay.

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Speaker 13: I thought a lot of his settling was because of the achilles.

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Speaker 12: He didn't have that explosively.

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Speaker 13: Yes, we're used to Tatum having he wasn't able to drive and play downhill like he's used to. He was great that he was back, but I thought he settled a lot in that series as well.

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Speaker 2: Talking to Reggie Miller read on the call tonight, it's game one in Western Conference SEMIS eight thirty Eastern NBC in Peacock. It'll be okay see against the LA Lakers. I'm wondering how you work a referee. How how do you get your message to the referee without embarrassing him or having people notice if it's before during a game.

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Speaker 4: How did you do it?

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Speaker 2: Or how would you recommend somebody who wants to get a message like Jalen Brown is telling us, there's a lot of.

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Speaker 12: Ways you do this.

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Speaker 13: You start even before it jump ball, when you're out there, warm up both teams, during.

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Speaker 12: Layup line and all that.

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Speaker 13: You go to the official hay out and you're doing everything good, good to see you, and you start setting up a rapport from Hey, everything good, all right, family's good, right, this is a hey, great environment. So you're setting the tone. Hey, let's have this conversation. It's not you know, adversarial. Let's just you know, talk about this and then every time out or every free throw.

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Speaker 12: Hey, kind of watch this.

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Speaker 13: He's holding me down low, and you're trying to make it more friendly, because if you show them up in front of fifteen twenty thousand, it's not going to go your way, especially in the playoffs.

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Speaker 2: What do you make of Draymond Green's comments on his podcast that Steve Kerr may have hindered his career by not calling plays offensive plays for Draymond Green.

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Speaker 13: Look, I know it raised a lot of eyebrows, and you know, I heard Austin Rivers and they're going back and forth. Draymond is entitled to his opinion. He's a four time champion, and if that's how he feels, look him in and Steve obviously have a great relationship. You know, he's been there his whole career. If he feels that, he has every right to say that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, But Austin Rivers has every right to be count that critic. I mean, he played in the NBA, so why can't he say that's silly? Why would you run a play for Draymond when you have Stephen Clay and you had Kevin Durant? How did how did Steve Kerr hinder what was he hindering because if anything, he helped his career, he made him a star. He said, I'm intrusting the entire offense that goes through you. How is that hindering Draymond Green?

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Speaker 13: Maybe poor choice of words by saying hindering because I don't think they You know, people say you only law unfortune hampships because of Stephen Curry.

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Speaker 12: People don't understand You're right.

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Speaker 13: The whole offense was being facilitated through Draymond Green, the way he was finding Clay and Steph.

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Speaker 12: So maybe poor choice of words. I'm sure Draymond probably just wanted one or two sets run for him.

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Speaker 4: No, and Robert Ry said, the Rockets never ran a play for him.

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Speaker 13: And look how impactful his career was making big shots. Look being the facilitator getting those guys off and occasionally making a three.

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Speaker 12: Draymond, that was your role.

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Speaker 13: And obviously the defense people forget how great defensively he is, and for your head coach Steve Kurta come out and say he is the best defender I've ever seen. That's he played with Michael Jordan, Scottie Pittman and Dennis Rodman.

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Speaker 12: For him to say that about Draymond Green, that's not hindering.

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Speaker 2: But if he played in Sacramento and he averaged nineteen and ten, like nobody cares about Draymond Green. He became a Hall of Famer because now his abilities.

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Speaker 4: But also.

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Speaker 13: Steve's a lightning look, he's a lightning rod and whenever he goes on his own podcast and says these things.

00:28:22
Speaker 2: But would you rather be Okay, would you rather be Harvey Grant who averaged twenty two a game for Washington or his brother who played for the Bulls. Horace Grant is winning championships past.

00:28:35
Speaker 13: In point, Mike Drop, it's all about the chips, and Draymond has four of them.

00:28:40
Speaker 2: Would you rather have Carmelo Anthony's career or Draymond Green?

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Speaker 13: It's all about the chips. They're both going to be Hall of Famers. Mellow is a Hall of Famer already and Draymond's going to be a Hall of Famer. One just has four rings and a Defensive Player of the Year.

00:29:00
Speaker 4: The yellow one got to shoot an awful lot.

00:29:03
Speaker 13: That's what's his game though, So you would take the top ten score.

00:29:08
Speaker 12: Carmelo is a bona fide bucket.

00:29:12
Speaker 13: But they're both Hall of famers at the end of the day, and what is gets to drink bub four times don't doesn't to me? Ships matter, they do a lot of people. Tips matter. Coming from a guy who never won one.

00:29:29
Speaker 12: They matter.

00:29:31
Speaker 4: I didn't bring that up.

00:29:33
Speaker 13: But you're saying, you're comparing mellow who to me is one of the top ten, maybe certainly fifteen scores our game has ever seen, maybe top ten score that this game has ever seen.

00:29:47
Speaker 4: See a better scorer than Durant.

00:29:51
Speaker 12: No, but he's in that conversation Durant. Durant might be top five.

00:29:59
Speaker 4: He's gonna be on an on their team next year, isn't he.

00:30:03
Speaker 2: It's crazy when you look at Harden and Durant, two of the greatest scores of all time.

00:30:10
Speaker 4: Yeah, but why do they keep bouncing around?

00:30:14
Speaker 1: Okay, but I.

00:30:19
Speaker 9: Don't say it.

00:30:21
Speaker 12: I don't, I don't. I don't know.

00:30:22
Speaker 4: Do younger players not want to play with these guys? I don't.

00:30:25
Speaker 12: I Look, I'm not in that Houston locker room.

00:30:28
Speaker 2: Well, it's something happened in that locker room.

00:30:32
Speaker 12: I don't think it happened in the locker room.

00:30:33
Speaker 2: I think these things his burner. Oh did you ever hear that story? When Jordan was retiring with the Wizards, and wes Unseldom went around the locker room and asked for, you know, donations to buy Mike a gift.

00:30:51
Speaker 12: No, keep going.

00:30:53
Speaker 4: Everybody said no, no.

00:30:57
Speaker 12: I refuse to believe that.

00:31:00
Speaker 2: Gilbert Arenas just confirmed it this week. Wes unseld Is on record saying that it was true. Nobody pitched in any money to get Mike a gift.

00:31:11
Speaker 12: He was probably browbeating them.

00:31:13
Speaker 4: Oh, I know he was.

00:31:15
Speaker 12: He was probably you know, he probably was.

00:31:18
Speaker 2: But it's still Mike. I mean the fact that nobody wanted to give any money.

00:31:24
Speaker 12: For nobody, like all fifteen guys.

00:31:27
Speaker 4: We nobody wretch.

00:31:29
Speaker 2: Wes unseld Is on record is saying that was true. Gilbert Arenas, who arrived the following year, followed up on that and said nobody donated to Michael Jordan.

00:31:41
Speaker 12: I don't think he needed a gift anyways.

00:31:43
Speaker 4: No, but symbolic though.

00:31:46
Speaker 13: Yeah, but that does that kind of add to the legacy of mj kind of being an a hole, right, right, isn't that teammates like Scotty and Horace and these guys.

00:31:58
Speaker 4: When you're winning. If my wasn't winning and he acted the way he did.

00:32:02
Speaker 5: Oh.

00:32:02
Speaker 2: True, the bulls wouldn't have donated any money when when he retired.

00:32:07
Speaker 12: It's all finding Danny.

00:32:09
Speaker 13: All the champagne is bubbling coming down and you're getting your championship rings.

00:32:15
Speaker 4: Red will be on the call tonight. Uh you with Mike Cherco.

00:32:19
Speaker 12: Mike Tarrico, the great Mike Trico.

00:32:21
Speaker 10: Say his name.

00:32:22
Speaker 12: Right, Theodore Wait wait, they're great Mike Tarrico.

00:32:26
Speaker 4: I'm first team Altarrico.

00:32:28
Speaker 12: Thank you. Yes, you guys are co working.

00:32:30
Speaker 2: I worked with him when he got to ESPN. He was like twenty four. He had hair.

00:32:35
Speaker 4: I knew you when you had hair.

00:32:37
Speaker 12: That is true. Yeah, those were the days in the in the early nineties. Oh, we could tell something.

00:32:43
Speaker 13: We need to tell some of those stories in the in the cigar bar, you and you and Mark Jackson.

00:32:49
Speaker 12: Oh my god.

00:32:50
Speaker 2: If you guys used me as the final judge, you would be like Montana, No, it's Marino holy Field, No, it's Tyson.

00:33:00
Speaker 4: You guys were going.

00:33:05
Speaker 2: And then did you ever go to the Cozy Lounge in downtown Indy?

00:33:11
Speaker 12: I'm sure I did. I probably hit every I.

00:33:13
Speaker 2: Don't, I don't. This was not it was an all black lounge. So and you were there, I know I did. I walked in. I walked in. I think I got grandfathered. But it it's one of those like Animal House, when they walk in they go otis my man? And then the entire club, all black patrons, turned around. That's what it was. I walked in with my friend Charlie Mornyhan, and everybody at the bar turned around like what are you doing here?

00:33:43
Speaker 4: And so we had to go up to the bar.

00:33:46
Speaker 2: And finally I got up there and I'm thinking, damn, I'm on Sports Center, somebody better recognize me here. Soon dude comes over to me and he says, hey, let me get your beer. I said, yes, yes, that'd be great. And he said, hey, welcome to club. I said all right, And then they did the they did the soul train where you danced had the line. I did do the pony down the Soul Train line because because everybody was doing it. And I go and the guy who bought me the beer, he goes, uh, you might want to do it. I go, oh my god. I said, I'm gonna need a couple more beers. And then all of a sudden, I rode the pony down the Soul Train line.

00:34:34
Speaker 12: NAWN loves you. You always have and we always will.

00:34:39
Speaker 2: Reggie on the call with the Great Mike Turrico tonight eight thirty Eastern on NBC and Peacock. Talk to you next week. Thanks, Reddy, take a break back after this. Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our shows at Foxsports Radio dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search f s R to listen live. Last call for phone calls. What we learned, What's in store tomorrow? Tim Leagler, the Mothership will join us, I believe tomorrow on the program. He is an ESPN, NBA analyst. Good to talk to Legs again. Still embarrassed that he said he could beat me in a three point shooting contest.

00:35:19
Speaker 4: And he would shoot left handed. And you know what, he wasn't kidding. I was embarrassed for him. I said, Hey, I'm not Greg Anthony. Because Greg Anthony was shooting around with us. We were in Detroit and Greg Anthony was a great fifteen to eighteen foot shooter, kind of like Avery Johnson. But he won a three point shooter and Legs goes, I could beat you left handed and I had some choice words for him, and that at the end, I said, Hey, I'm not Greg Anthony. Okay, yeah, Paul.

00:35:50
Speaker 8: These former NBA players have a lot of attitude, a lot of.

00:35:56
Speaker 4: You'd think that they would understand, they would not be challenging me.

00:36:03
Speaker 8: You chose to go to radio and you couldn't.

00:36:05
Speaker 2: Yeah, I chose to be a talking hair dude. What Marvin, you're shaking your head here.

00:36:13
Speaker 7: I respect your ego, but there are times when I'm just like, all right, all right, professional and as good as you were. I met a teammate of yours when you play inter mirror ball in Dayton. He said you were a real Michael Jordan on the Wizards type.

00:36:29
Speaker 10: I was. I was.

00:36:31
Speaker 4: He did say that I.

00:36:33
Speaker 2: Was the third best player on the campus of the University of Dayton.

00:36:37
Speaker 4: He did, Yes, he did.

00:36:39
Speaker 2: But I was not any fun to play with or against it. I was whatever I was what Reggie called Michael Jordan. If your hair isn't playing like it did in your twenties, might be time for a real comeback.

00:36:54
Speaker 4: The hat isn't there. You go with the hat again.

00:36:57
Speaker 9: I'm waiting on the delivery.

00:36:58
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00:37:07
Speaker 4: What we learn? What's in store tomorrow?

00:37:10
Speaker 5: Eric?

00:37:10
Speaker 4: And salt Lake? Good morning, Eric. What's on your mind today?

00:37:14
Speaker 9: Hey?

00:37:14
Speaker 14: What's a Dan? I got a few things, so keep it quick. First thing is about your retirement? Yeah, personal question? How much of this is about it's just time for you to go and it's that point in your life versus how much is like streaming, gambling and nil infiltrating in the sport kind of pushing you in that direction.

00:37:32
Speaker 5: Two?

00:37:33
Speaker 14: What athlete would you love to interview before you retire that you haven't linked up yet? And Three the streets are talking and we think that Peacock should pay for Dylan to go to the Met Gala get absolutely plastered, and we would love to see that.

00:37:47
Speaker 4: Uh okay.

00:37:48
Speaker 2: I wanted to know what happened when you get into the met Gala. We see everybody arrive, I don't know what happens inside. So Pauli said, all right, let me check the rolodex. And then you got a hold of Josh Dumel, the actor who was married to Fergie of the Black Eyed peas.

00:38:03
Speaker 4: Did he tell you what happens when you get in the doors?

00:38:06
Speaker 8: He said, he has been there, and we're waiting a text back about what happens when you get inside any minute.

00:38:12
Speaker 2: We don't have many minutes now, he can't be that busy. Retiring has nothing to do with nil or any of that. It's still good content. I mean, so that would not be what drives me out. What was the other thing that athlete? I think I've interviewed everybody.

00:38:33
Speaker 13: Now.

00:38:33
Speaker 2: I'd take another spin at Jordan, obviously, but I don't know if there's anybody Tiger's not a good interview. There's a lot to talk to Tiger about. But I think Tiger kind of chose not to be a good interview. If he put his mind to it, he could be a great interview, but I don't think he's interested in that. Jordan would be great too, because some of those conversations we had after he was winning championships on Sports Center were great because he made them great.

00:39:09
Speaker 4: He was willing to have fun. But then he just won a title.

00:39:12
Speaker 8: Yes, Paul, I'd love to have you do thirty minutes plus with Lebron. You were there right when he was entering the league. You've seen it all and have him just take off the you know, let it go.

00:39:24
Speaker 4: Yeah.

00:39:24
Speaker 2: I interviewed him a long, long, long time ago. I was still at the mother Ship, so it's probably been twenty twenty.

00:39:32
Speaker 4: Three years, No, twenty two years.

00:39:34
Speaker 8: I think we had him on around twenty eleven twelve, right around there. Oh we did okay on the radio show. Oh yeah, I got a check. But around eleven or twelve, right before Miami, I think, or are you sure? I'll check?

00:39:52
Speaker 2: Because there was a Sports Illustrated cover and it says Dan Patrick interviews Lebron James. I have it in my office and I would have still been at the mother Ship when I did that, and I've been gone. What is it twenty years now that I've been gone from me ESPN? Yeah, nineteen nineteen, so maybe it was twenty maybe twenty years ago that I interviewed Lebron. Not much has happened since then. I can't even do this day in sports history other than Ron Turcott on this day ride secretariat to the Kentucky Derby.

00:40:31
Speaker 4: That's what PAULI had. I took it from Todd. You learned anything today?

00:40:35
Speaker 6: Yes, Reggie Miller would take Raymond Green's career and his four NBA titles over Carmelo Anthony's It's All About the Chips.

00:40:40
Speaker 9: Dylan Dan, You're no stranger to a ride on the Soul train.

00:40:45
Speaker 2: I know doing the Pony. We just needed Don Cornelius. I love Don Cornelie, former Chicago police officer. I believe Don Cornelius. Marvin, would you learn.

00:40:55
Speaker 4: Fritzy saw bits and pieces of the Devilwar's product.

00:40:58
Speaker 8: Paul, A lot of rundowns to go through.

00:41:01
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00:41:11
Speaker 4: Talk to you tomorrow