The Mini Van

Yeah, I ain't fall. When the summer I can get 0:00:06.160 --> 0:00:10.399 fly all my life, all my life. All right, we're 0:00:10.440 --> 0:00:14.920 back another episode of I'm the host. Nadj wellis my right, 0:00:15.000 --> 0:00:17.880 young Nacho TI? How you feeling, my boy? I'm good Man. 0:00:18.000 --> 0:00:20.200 Got some special people in the building, special people. Know 0:00:20.200 --> 0:00:22.240 what I'm saying. To my immediate left, We're gonna introduce 0:00:22.320 --> 0:00:24.480 him last as we should do our guests. My father left. 0:00:24.520 --> 0:00:26.960 You know what I'm saying, Resident Chef Bishop Grant Leaf, 0:00:27.080 --> 0:00:29.920 my boy be here. How you feeling cooler? National, Let's 0:00:29.960 --> 0:00:31.639 get a crack all right, man, I got a special 0:00:31.680 --> 0:00:32.839 guest him. I let you know what I'm saying. I'm 0:00:32.840 --> 0:00:34.680 gonna go ahead, Latigue, introduce you. You You know what I'm saying. 0:00:34.680 --> 0:00:37.080 They got a little relationship. They go back a little 0:00:37.120 --> 0:00:40.800 bit classic. This is my rookie man, my days Indiana, 0:00:41.680 --> 0:00:44.280 I mean, carved out a beautiful career in the NBA. Man, 0:00:44.360 --> 0:00:48.519 Iowa State legend. M the coolest dudes I know in 0:00:48.520 --> 0:00:51.040 the NBA. Man, I'm glad to have him on the show. 0:00:51.840 --> 0:00:55.800 George Niang, appreciate you'all for having me on. Man, it's 0:00:55.800 --> 0:00:58.920 a blessing. I appreciate you Slide, It's a blessing. He 0:00:59.000 --> 0:01:00.720 got the pr statements. If we gonna get out of 0:01:00.760 --> 0:01:02.880 the real quick, don't you work. But if we're gett 0:01:02.880 --> 0:01:04.840 into the episode, y'all see this on you table, it's 0:01:04.920 --> 0:01:06.480 real beer. You know what I'm saying. You got some 0:01:06.480 --> 0:01:08.800 product you want to promote, get out there. We got 0:01:08.840 --> 0:01:11.119 this one erful laptop. You know what I'm saying. Be him. 0:01:11.120 --> 0:01:12.960 We tried to get him too, the sketches deal last week. 0:01:13.000 --> 0:01:15.440 He wasn't fucking with us. You got that ship on 0:01:15.520 --> 0:01:19.039 the day. He's just regular night for you nigs about 0:01:19.080 --> 0:01:23.679 the door hashtag. It's okay he flecks on the serad. 0:01:23.840 --> 0:01:26.480 We appreciate it. Nonetheless, I know what I'm saying, Sketchers, 0:01:26.520 --> 0:01:29.760 Look tea, you might go four million dollars now you 0:01:29.800 --> 0:01:32.960 ain't doing four meal. Yeah anything, George, you know what 0:01:32.959 --> 0:01:36.520 I'm saying. Wills around upon that a little bit later. 0:01:36.680 --> 0:01:38.919 You know I'm saying, you still in the league, my boy. Hey, 0:01:38.959 --> 0:01:43.560 let's get the show, get to start talking. I like 0:01:43.640 --> 0:01:45.640 for hearing this vibe. Don't they got the simple water. 0:01:45.680 --> 0:01:47.880 We had a good episode that. You know what I'm saying, 0:01:47.880 --> 0:01:49.360 You're in the league still, you know, obviously know what 0:01:49.360 --> 0:01:51.560 I'm saying, you playing shoes deals that night. How much 0:01:51.600 --> 0:01:53.600 Sketchers gotta give you to get the deals to the vibe? Like, 0:01:54.640 --> 0:01:58.840 what's what's the jumping at You're hopping into the sketches 0:01:58.920 --> 0:02:02.400 for a meal? Take? Absolutely, yeah, but that's damn that's 0:02:02.440 --> 0:02:04.040 easy to be here. He was being difficult, you know, 0:02:04.800 --> 0:02:06.920 he trying to give up his his footwear. No, I 0:02:06.960 --> 0:02:09.919 don't even care about a million dollars. We can talk. 0:02:10.000 --> 0:02:11.240 I just want to be able to world. I don't 0:02:11.240 --> 0:02:13.720 want to wear to the club and when I'm hanging out, bro, 0:02:13.760 --> 0:02:16.160 I just don't want to on a five twenty podcast. 0:02:16.840 --> 0:02:21.519 Give me the sketcher whatever shape up the KIMK was having. Yeah, 0:02:21.600 --> 0:02:23.680 I'm gonna leave him on life like I got the dunks. 0:02:24.200 --> 0:02:26.760 We can rock out, but you gotta wear him the club. Yeah, 0:02:26.800 --> 0:02:28.520 when I'm going out and hanging out with my friends, 0:02:28.560 --> 0:02:32.280 but I'm not wearing it, bro. So so we're gonna 0:02:32.280 --> 0:02:34.640 see what's some comments come. Were gonna see how them 0:02:34.720 --> 0:02:37.120 effects change. Before the episode, I always got to start 0:02:37.160 --> 0:02:39.440 the episode with a Friday Ask question. Obviously, you know 0:02:39.440 --> 0:02:41.560 what I'm saying. You had a nice journey in the NBA. 0:02:41.639 --> 0:02:43.480 He's still going on right now. But I gotta ask 0:02:43.520 --> 0:02:46.600 you what's been so far without giving too much details. 0:02:46.639 --> 0:02:48.840 You don't want to snitching nobody. What would you say 0:02:48.840 --> 0:02:51.320 your most problematic locker room was so far and you're 0:02:51.320 --> 0:02:53.679 playing days. You can go from high school to college 0:02:53.720 --> 0:02:59.040 to NBA. Look they laugh already. Oh my god, welcome 0:02:59.080 --> 0:03:06.600 to five twenty. Yeah, yeah, welcome my most problematic locker room, Dan, 0:03:06.680 --> 0:03:18.640 I would have to say with with with yes, yeah, man, 0:03:18.880 --> 0:03:23.800 we little go a little We had a funny, a 0:03:23.880 --> 0:03:27.240 funny group of guys in that locker room. You know, 0:03:27.360 --> 0:03:30.399 I think it was it was PEG's last year, right, yeah, yeah, 0:03:30.520 --> 0:03:33.480 So it was like, you know, mixed between you know, 0:03:33.639 --> 0:03:35.960 I think there was riff raff for him, you know, 0:03:36.080 --> 0:03:38.080 not wanting to be there. This's that in the third 0:03:38.160 --> 0:03:39.800 or I don't know what what he was thinking. I 0:03:39.840 --> 0:03:43.080 was a rookie. I really didn't know anything. But we'd 0:03:43.120 --> 0:03:45.880 go on like seven game win streaks and eight game 0:03:45.960 --> 0:03:50.160 loosen streaks. I was confused, man, So uh as my 0:03:50.320 --> 0:03:53.720 first year in the league, you know, we were we 0:03:53.720 --> 0:03:56.160 were a troublesome group. That was a hell of a 0:03:56.240 --> 0:03:58.000 year for everybody. It will get into that a little 0:03:58.040 --> 0:03:59.600 bit later. He don't like the paces at all. He 0:03:59.680 --> 0:04:03.000 has no respect. I am unfortunately doing pictures fan till 0:04:03.000 --> 0:04:06.480 I die. But terres Haliburt and the Savior the guy 0:04:06.720 --> 0:04:08.320 shout out to him out the gate, shout out to 0:04:08.360 --> 0:04:10.120 the young being Mather too. We were on the way 0:04:10.880 --> 0:04:15.160 like analogy will wish us to the pictures organization. That's 0:04:15.160 --> 0:04:17.320 like you got for it. It's a pr S today. 0:04:17.560 --> 0:04:18.960 That's school. I can get out of pocket. We can 0:04:18.960 --> 0:04:21.680 get it there. So first started off before we can 0:04:21.680 --> 0:04:23.599 get to that. You know what I'm saying. Obviously we 0:04:23.680 --> 0:04:25.120 know how you would. You know, I'm saying, it's your 0:04:25.120 --> 0:04:27.520 background of basketball. Talk about your high school. That's man. 0:04:27.600 --> 0:04:29.840 You had a pretty goddamn good and you team. You 0:04:29.839 --> 0:04:32.039 know what I'm saying, How did that come about? We 0:04:32.080 --> 0:04:35.040 all went to high school together as me Netherlands Nowell, 0:04:36.080 --> 0:04:42.520 Wayne Selden, Jake Layman Man. When you say high school together, 0:04:42.560 --> 0:04:45.400 like y'all went to high school together, y'all like it 0:04:45.480 --> 0:04:46.920 was like a phone called and we're going to high 0:04:46.920 --> 0:04:49.840 school together. No, it was. It was a boarding school, 0:04:49.880 --> 0:04:51.159 so you know we were allowed to do that. You 0:04:51.200 --> 0:04:52.720 know a lot of people said they played high school 0:04:52.720 --> 0:04:54.680 together and they lived on the street. That definitely was 0:04:54.800 --> 0:04:58.560 not the case. But you know, for for high school 0:04:58.560 --> 0:05:02.480 au we we had a pretty solid team. So when 0:05:02.520 --> 0:05:04.359 you was playing in the summer, obviously I had a whip. 0:05:04.520 --> 0:05:05.920 And was it a little bit easier for you to 0:05:05.960 --> 0:05:07.920 play high school basketball playing with the town the team 0:05:07.960 --> 0:05:09.400 like that? Like you said, you had a Denver prep 0:05:09.440 --> 0:05:12.240 school y'all playing a crazy schedule as well. How did 0:05:12.320 --> 0:05:14.920 that prepare you to like get into like cogge decisions 0:05:14.920 --> 0:05:17.000 because a lot of times, like Jeffer probably speaking on this, 0:05:17.040 --> 0:05:18.600 I mean he went crazy at you too, but he 0:05:18.640 --> 0:05:20.040 played in the high school where he lived down the 0:05:20.040 --> 0:05:21.839 street front, how do you think it would have been 0:05:21.839 --> 0:05:23.440 different for you probably going up if you went to 0:05:23.440 --> 0:05:25.120 a prep school situation, you think he would have got 0:05:25.160 --> 0:05:28.400 exposure differently? Or now, I wouldn't have made no prep school. 0:05:28.440 --> 0:05:32.120 I couldn't do that, you can na. I'm a I'm 0:05:32.160 --> 0:05:35.880 a west side baby. I can't do that outside baby, Yeah, 0:05:35.920 --> 0:05:38.120 I'm outside, yall know me? I was outside. I went 0:05:38.160 --> 0:05:40.400 to every party, I went to everything, boarding school that 0:05:40.400 --> 0:05:48.479 ain't met no uniforms, no way you can. I wore 0:05:48.520 --> 0:05:52.120 white T shirts and rocket worse every day. Yeah, like, 0:05:52.279 --> 0:05:54.640 come on, you had to be real disciplined for that though. 0:05:55.240 --> 0:05:58.080 I mean, I'm sure it made you a better college student. Yeah, 0:05:58.200 --> 0:06:01.400 I mean I guess when you don't know, I wouldn't 0:06:01.400 --> 0:06:04.120 say you don't know no different like you just you know. 0:06:04.320 --> 0:06:06.480 So for the most part, I mean I was an 0:06:06.480 --> 0:06:10.240 hour away from home, and uh, I mean up there, 0:06:10.240 --> 0:06:12.040 there was no I was like up in the middle 0:06:12.040 --> 0:06:14.480 of nowhere. There was no thought of like, I couldn't 0:06:14.480 --> 0:06:16.400 go act up. There was nothing to act up and do. 0:06:16.520 --> 0:06:19.920 It was gonna do run out in the wilderness. But uh, 0:06:20.240 --> 0:06:22.560 because you're from the Northeast area, yeah, I mean it's 0:06:22.600 --> 0:06:24.320 not for everybody, but I'll tell you this, it does 0:06:24.480 --> 0:06:27.240 keep a lot of you know, you know how how 0:06:27.240 --> 0:06:29.160 to find a way to avoid trouble. There's some people 0:06:29.200 --> 0:06:31.960 that just walk outside and trouble finds them. So for 0:06:32.040 --> 0:06:34.680 kids like that, I think it's a it's a good 0:06:34.680 --> 0:06:37.200 idea because it'll probably save a lot of kids from 0:06:37.240 --> 0:06:39.760 who get in trouble in high school and can't pursue 0:06:39.800 --> 0:06:42.719 their dreams. Would you had a twenty eleven or twenty 0:06:42.720 --> 0:06:45.640 ten class, No, I was twenty twelve. I was originally 0:06:45.680 --> 0:06:49.920 twenty eleven, So in the in the Northeast. It's popular 0:06:50.040 --> 0:06:57.400 to like reclassify. I feel like I thought we were 0:06:57.400 --> 0:07:04.279 like the first ones. Yeah, so I was, so I 0:07:04.440 --> 0:07:07.359 was young for my grade, so twenty I was originally 0:07:07.400 --> 0:07:09.920 class to twenty eleven and I did two sophomore years. 0:07:10.000 --> 0:07:12.080 So it hurt me in the long run when I'm 0:07:12.200 --> 0:07:13.760 entering the draft and they're like, oh, he about to 0:07:13.760 --> 0:07:17.320 be twenty three, and I was like, did y'all win 0:07:17.400 --> 0:07:20.360 Peach Jam? Yeah? Yeah, how was it? I had a 0:07:20.360 --> 0:07:24.200 whip that was Peach Jam? Was that was the best turn? 0:07:24.440 --> 0:07:26.960 That's the best tournament out Yeah? Yeah, and then you 0:07:27.000 --> 0:07:30.520 see it now it gets all that national that's much 0:07:30.560 --> 0:07:33.960 actually televised. Yeah, so I don't know. I mean, Nike 0:07:34.200 --> 0:07:35.720 did a really good job with the E y b L. 0:07:35.760 --> 0:07:38.120 It was like the first year of week first joined. 0:07:38.160 --> 0:07:41.840 But Peach Jam was elite. Who was the toughest matchup 0:07:41.920 --> 0:07:44.800 out there that you can remember? Who was like, damn 0:07:44.840 --> 0:07:47.080 he is nice. I gotta work on my game. I 0:07:47.080 --> 0:07:51.480 gotta get matchup. I don't. I mean, I just remember 0:07:51.600 --> 0:07:53.440 having to play the Saint Louis Eagles when they had 0:07:53.480 --> 0:07:59.280 Bradley Beal, Ben McLamore. That was that was crazy. You 0:07:59.280 --> 0:08:01.680 could do because I was like a post guy and 0:08:02.000 --> 0:08:04.200 them dudes were just dancing around the three point line. 0:08:04.240 --> 0:08:11.720 So they were yeah, yeah, oh he did he play for? Yeah? 0:08:12.040 --> 0:08:15.720 They had him Aj Hammond's Uh who else did they 0:08:15.720 --> 0:08:23.680 have had a couple San Thomas? Yeah was nice? They 0:08:23.800 --> 0:08:27.200 was they was cold? Then who was it? Uh? Team 0:08:27.240 --> 0:08:33.600 Takeover had like b j Anya, Jeremy Grant, James Robinson. Damn. Yeah, 0:08:33.600 --> 0:08:40.320 so they every game like eybl was was for real. 0:08:40.960 --> 0:08:43.400 That definitely helped me, you know, just playing against like 0:08:43.400 --> 0:08:45.480 I went to high school in Urlans, also playing against 0:08:45.559 --> 0:08:48.559 him kind of helped me play against like shot blockers 0:08:48.559 --> 0:08:52.520 in college. Yeah, I could score not at ease, But 0:08:53.840 --> 0:08:58.079 how did you get to Yeah, damn, that's that's actually 0:08:58.120 --> 0:09:01.760 a crazy story. So I didn't have any high major offers, 0:09:01.960 --> 0:09:05.600 I think going into like my junior year and I 0:09:05.600 --> 0:09:08.280 played in the tournament and uh, Fred Hoiberg ended up 0:09:08.320 --> 0:09:11.440 calling me because this prep school we went on like 0:09:11.440 --> 0:09:13.319 a ski trip. So he called me in the middle 0:09:13.360 --> 0:09:16.439 of like me going down the hill tubin or something, 0:09:16.480 --> 0:09:18.439 and I called him back and he wanted me to 0:09:18.440 --> 0:09:21.600 take an unofficial visit. But people don't realize now unofficial visits. 0:09:21.640 --> 0:09:25.120 I couldn't be paid for it, so like my mom 0:09:25.200 --> 0:09:27.640 had to like pay for me to go out there. 0:09:27.679 --> 0:09:31.560 I wasna. I was originally gonna visit just the University 0:09:31.600 --> 0:09:33.880 of Iowa, but then I decided to do both because 0:09:33.880 --> 0:09:36.080 they were both recruiting me. So we get out to 0:09:36.160 --> 0:09:39.920 Des Moines, and Des Moines is a forty five minute 0:09:40.679 --> 0:09:43.920 drive to Aimes, where Iowa State is, and my mom 0:09:44.000 --> 0:09:46.200 forgot a credit card. So when we go to rent 0:09:46.240 --> 0:09:49.560 a car, they was like, sorry, like, no, can't do 0:09:49.800 --> 0:09:53.240 this is like twelve years ago, and so we had 0:09:53.320 --> 0:09:58.640 to take a cab two Aimes, Iowa. Then my mom 0:09:58.720 --> 0:10:00.040 was like, I don't want them to know that I 0:10:00.040 --> 0:10:03.040 forgot my credit cards. So like I'm running across like 0:10:03.080 --> 0:10:06.440 this bean field to like get to the practice facility 0:10:06.480 --> 0:10:07.959 because they're not allowed to pick you up when you 0:10:08.080 --> 0:10:12.040 off campus and stuff like that. And eventually we had 0:10:12.040 --> 0:10:14.200 to take like a megabus which is two hours to 0:10:14.200 --> 0:10:17.880 get to the University of Iowa. And then and then 0:10:17.920 --> 0:10:19.559 finally at the mL was like, I'm gonna call a 0:10:19.640 --> 0:10:21.800 car service so we can just get to the airport. 0:10:22.320 --> 0:10:24.000 And then this is in the middle of nowhere, So 0:10:24.080 --> 0:10:27.120 this dude was like, you want the Lincoln or the Cadillac. 0:10:27.200 --> 0:10:29.679 And my mom was like, just whatever, the Lincoln. This 0:10:29.760 --> 0:10:32.520 dude turns out to be like a hoarder. So like 0:10:32.559 --> 0:10:36.360 he just had like trash like in the car, so 0:10:36.440 --> 0:10:38.880 like he was driving like a tuna fish can and 0:10:39.000 --> 0:10:42.000 like slide across. It was a crazy I was like, 0:10:42.040 --> 0:10:45.800 there ain't no way God wants me to go to Iowa. 0:10:45.840 --> 0:10:47.880 The next thing you know, I'm at Iowa State And 0:10:47.880 --> 0:10:49.960 it was because Fred Hoiberg. I mean he was just 0:10:50.000 --> 0:10:52.360 a honest dude. Told me he was gonna let me 0:10:52.600 --> 0:10:54.960 have the ball in my hands, and it was that's 0:10:54.960 --> 0:10:57.000 what it was. From there. That's crass. You might have 0:10:57.040 --> 0:11:01.679 been in Iowa if they had Uber back then to 0:11:01.760 --> 0:11:05.360 lift your college have been totally different. Shouts a home 0:11:05.440 --> 0:11:11.240 boy driving the tune of whip. That's nasty detail. But 0:11:11.360 --> 0:11:14.280 like wow, I would though like those two schools, like 0:11:14.320 --> 0:11:18.680 you didn't like with Bruit Nah, Like bc BC was 0:11:18.760 --> 0:11:21.360 like I remember Wayne Selden got an offer from them, 0:11:21.360 --> 0:11:23.440 and he was like if they offer you, like, I'll 0:11:23.480 --> 0:11:27.320 go there with you. And Steve Donohue, I mean he's 0:11:27.360 --> 0:11:29.160 the coach at Penn. So we've talked because I'm in 0:11:29.200 --> 0:11:33.600 Philadelphia now, but like nobody else was like at that point, 0:11:33.600 --> 0:11:35.320 like that was the first time made school. They were like, ah, 0:11:35.320 --> 0:11:37.679 what position does he play? Like he's not a three, 0:11:37.720 --> 0:11:39.320 he's not big enough to play a four. He don't 0:11:39.360 --> 0:11:43.760 dunk on nobody. Yeah, So it was like Providence came 0:11:43.760 --> 0:11:46.520 in late with like Ed Cooley, but I had already committed. 0:11:47.080 --> 0:11:49.880 Billy Donovan was late. But you know, if I went 0:11:49.920 --> 0:11:54.280 to Florida that I've been all bad, me different. Yeah, 0:11:54.320 --> 0:11:56.040 and then like in the midst of like George Mason 0:11:56.120 --> 0:11:59.000 was another school, but Larnaga took the Miami job, and 0:11:59.040 --> 0:12:02.480 like I said, if I could to Florida, nah, Miami. 0:12:02.920 --> 0:12:05.760 But I didn't really have a position. I didn't really 0:12:06.040 --> 0:12:08.440 like my highlights were nasty, like people like they do 0:12:08.520 --> 0:12:10.640 highlights like me. I like Nike Peach and people like 0:12:11.000 --> 0:12:13.079 I didn't just waste three minutes of my life watching 0:12:13.160 --> 0:12:18.760 jump hucks and it's crazy. You do got a nasty game, 0:12:19.520 --> 0:12:23.880 Like it's effective. Yeah it happened, the ball, the ball 0:12:23.880 --> 0:12:26.640 goes in the hoop. Yeah, it's nasty, but effect. I 0:12:26.679 --> 0:12:28.320 used to say that we was in practice with the Pikes, 0:12:28.360 --> 0:12:31.720 which I block his game so ugly, but he's so 0:12:31.920 --> 0:12:34.520 nice though, Like he's the cud. Yeah, what's your goal 0:12:34.600 --> 0:12:39.560 to move though? What you fuck him up with? Shoot? Yeah, 0:12:40.920 --> 0:12:43.600 talking a little bit. I mean I've always had that. Yeah, Jeff, 0:12:43.640 --> 0:12:48.240 you know he got the you know whatever. That looks sweet. 0:12:48.440 --> 0:12:50.280 And then he run you know, he run back. Don't 0:12:50.280 --> 0:12:54.400 have no emotions, just like yeah, you know what I mean. 0:12:54.440 --> 0:13:00.320 He got a chap stick in his socks. I can't 0:13:00.480 --> 0:13:06.199 chat to Charles Rockley right with your belly button Charles 0:13:06.240 --> 0:13:09.680 Rockets putting. He put vastling his belly buttons chap and 0:13:09.720 --> 0:13:13.240 I was like, hey, that's the nash sh he's out. Yeah, 0:13:13.320 --> 0:13:17.080 that's sick, Chatti. Get the socks though. Nah. But I 0:13:17.160 --> 0:13:19.280 first knowed you when you was at Iowa State. I 0:13:19.400 --> 0:13:21.760 watched all of basketball. I watched college basketball like a 0:13:21.800 --> 0:13:24.640 fan back then, and you were killing but you had 0:13:25.320 --> 0:13:28.240 a rare game like you were doing dribble handoffs, fake 0:13:28.320 --> 0:13:32.400 dribble handoffs, running point, shooting threes. And I'm like, man, 0:13:32.480 --> 0:13:34.559 what I couldn't figure you out. I'm like, how is 0:13:34.600 --> 0:13:38.560 he killings? Moving in slow motion? Yeah? I was like 0:13:38.600 --> 0:13:42.400 a little boris d out. Yeah, you know where It's like, 0:13:43.360 --> 0:13:46.240 I think the college game is so traditional where it 0:13:46.320 --> 0:13:48.360 was like play through the big, like you know, when 0:13:48.360 --> 0:13:50.200 you first got to the NBA, played through the big. 0:13:50.320 --> 0:13:53.040 You know, there was no real like movement where Fred 0:13:53.080 --> 0:13:56.360 Hoiberg we played five out. You know, I would make 0:13:56.520 --> 0:13:58.520 I would play center just because I was big enough 0:13:58.559 --> 0:14:02.679 to you know, guard a center back back then and 0:14:02.679 --> 0:14:05.960 then drag them away from the hoop. And they couldn't 0:14:06.080 --> 0:14:08.040 guard me that far away from the hoop. I was 0:14:08.080 --> 0:14:11.120 able to just change direction and dribble, fake handoffs and 0:14:11.120 --> 0:14:14.360 then I could shoot three. So that's uh, that made 0:14:14.400 --> 0:14:16.840 me effective there. But little did I realize when I 0:14:16.840 --> 0:14:19.440 got to the NBA, there was like, uh, cut all 0:14:19.440 --> 0:14:25.160 that ship up, he said. I first, NBA will put 0:14:25.160 --> 0:14:27.800 you in a box, like they want you to do 0:14:27.880 --> 0:14:29.840 one thing. You're gonna do that one thing. So I 0:14:29.840 --> 0:14:32.200 got a question for y'all regarding that. How you think 0:14:32.360 --> 0:14:34.560 is a better situation to go forward with kids? Like 0:14:34.560 --> 0:14:36.080 now it's in prep because like you said, you can 0:14:36.080 --> 0:14:37.640 go to college and do whatever the fuck you want too, 0:14:37.640 --> 0:14:39.480 as long as you found whatever coach you got going. 0:14:39.720 --> 0:14:40.960 But you can get to the league and they can 0:14:41.000 --> 0:14:43.320 kind of like shift your game. Is it more beneficial 0:14:43.360 --> 0:14:45.160 to be like, all right, fun college. I might as 0:14:45.200 --> 0:14:46.680 well go to a G league or be in a 0:14:46.680 --> 0:14:48.200 structured place to where they gonna teach me how to 0:14:48.200 --> 0:14:50.000 play at this level. Or do you want to go 0:14:50.040 --> 0:14:51.760 to college and learn how do you play your own 0:14:51.760 --> 0:14:53.280 game and then just fit in once you get to 0:14:53.280 --> 0:14:56.600 the next situation. Man, that's tough because there's some people 0:14:56.640 --> 0:14:59.600 that you know, they've before they've even gotten to college, 0:14:59.600 --> 0:15:02.160 they've grown to college like so that they need to 0:15:02.200 --> 0:15:05.120 go to like they're they're too talented, they're too big 0:15:05.160 --> 0:15:08.600 of a name, they need to go to the legal league. 0:15:09.720 --> 0:15:11.640 But then there's some guys that think they're too big 0:15:11.680 --> 0:15:13.880 for college that really need to go beat like disciplined 0:15:13.920 --> 0:15:17.560 and learn how to play and you know, learn how 0:15:17.600 --> 0:15:20.160 to grind and actually work before they actually get to league. 0:15:20.200 --> 0:15:24.160 So it's like a person by person basis on that one. 0:15:24.280 --> 0:15:27.360 But I do like what the G league ignite thing does, 0:15:27.880 --> 0:15:30.000 but it also can't hurt guys that think they're better 0:15:30.040 --> 0:15:33.080 than they are. And you get caught taking five hundred 0:15:33.080 --> 0:15:35.240 grand to come out and that's the most money you 0:15:35.360 --> 0:15:38.640 ever see and you don't see that that you show 0:15:38.680 --> 0:15:40.880 what you can't do, and they're like, why would I 0:15:40.920 --> 0:15:43.960 waste time? I'm playing this kid that's real. Like you said, 0:15:43.960 --> 0:15:47.400 you you gotta sell yourself one way or another. I 0:15:47.480 --> 0:15:49.080 know it's a little bit later. Now we ain't gonna 0:15:49.120 --> 0:15:50.360 talk about the past. But you know what I'm saying, 0:15:50.440 --> 0:15:52.600 nil deal how you feel you would have eight? You 0:15:52.640 --> 0:15:56.000 know what I'm saying. I especially what you be. You 0:15:56.040 --> 0:15:57.760 know what I'm saying, the ten year player. You know 0:15:57.760 --> 0:16:02.080 what college basketball loves anybody, classmate, Man, I was all 0:16:02.120 --> 0:16:05.640 those you know, four years in the tournament. The farmer 0:16:05.720 --> 0:16:08.640 money out there I would have had, I would have 0:16:08.720 --> 0:16:10.520 had a good experience out there. But now that I 0:16:10.560 --> 0:16:13.480 think about it, if I had, because I remember when 0:16:13.480 --> 0:16:15.040 I got out of college, I did like a signing 0:16:15.040 --> 0:16:16.960 for like ten grand and I thought I was rich. 0:16:17.000 --> 0:16:19.320 I was like, you couldn't tell me. I was driving 0:16:19.400 --> 0:16:23.320 up to North American Minnesota buying true religion, like I 0:16:23.360 --> 0:16:26.600 thought the time period I thought I was living. Yeah, 0:16:26.600 --> 0:16:29.880 that ain't cool to wear that, not the truth? Where 0:16:29.880 --> 0:16:32.960 would you want? Man? Yeah, you don't do that, the 0:16:33.000 --> 0:16:37.520 true religion. Give me a period. When you talked about 0:16:37.640 --> 0:16:41.400 give me a period, trying to give me the true 0:16:41.360 --> 0:16:44.600 religion fit without the uh the nigga that's built like 0:16:44.640 --> 0:16:47.880 me on the front of the shirt. Just give me 0:16:47.920 --> 0:16:50.400 the regular true religion fit. Just now. You don't want 0:16:50.440 --> 0:16:52.760 the boot on your ship, give me a little coastal 0:16:52.800 --> 0:16:57.000 symbol on that bitch. Ain't no little true religious opperside 0:16:57.040 --> 0:16:59.480 of T shirts And like this bit it looked like 0:16:59.480 --> 0:17:04.760 the Lucky Are Cereal box, the gray one. I wore 0:17:04.760 --> 0:17:06.680 it in the summer. That was my biggest mistake because 0:17:06.680 --> 0:17:08.600 you know, it gets hot. It takes me like raise 0:17:08.680 --> 0:17:16.160 your hand. It wasn't the club going crazy. Was so embarrassed, dude. 0:17:16.200 --> 0:17:19.000 I was like, from now on, just black teath in 0:17:19.040 --> 0:17:21.640 the summer. But how was it? Thought? I though? Did 0:17:21.640 --> 0:17:25.160 you have fun? Yeah? I mean so that was kind 0:17:25.160 --> 0:17:29.600 of really like where I enjoyed, like the outside of basketball, right, 0:17:29.680 --> 0:17:32.000 but it wasn't too crazy where like it got out 0:17:32.000 --> 0:17:34.159 of hand, like I could still manage to get controlled. 0:17:34.440 --> 0:17:37.879 But like people out in the Midwest, they just know 0:17:37.960 --> 0:17:41.840 how to drink, man, nothing else to it. There's like 0:17:41.880 --> 0:17:44.119 people that drinking and there's people from the Midwest. They 0:17:44.280 --> 0:17:47.280 just they just we do a little different. Yeah, it's 0:17:47.320 --> 0:17:49.639 like people like I drink. Where are you from out 0:17:49.680 --> 0:17:53.400 the West coast? Nah? You know, k how much love 0:17:53.440 --> 0:17:56.600 you get? I mean, it's still to this day. I 0:17:56.640 --> 0:17:58.520 do a charity golf outing out there, I do a 0:17:58.560 --> 0:18:01.800 basketball camp. I don't do it anything else anywhere else 0:18:02.240 --> 0:18:04.959 because that was like the craziest amount of love that Like, 0:18:05.119 --> 0:18:08.440 that's true. It was wild, and that's crazy. We sitting 0:18:08.480 --> 0:18:11.400 here with two people who could have went to BC. Yeah, 0:18:11.800 --> 0:18:14.800 that's crazy. That would have been elected you and had 0:18:14.840 --> 0:18:17.960 the city going crazy. I was I thought about going there. 0:18:18.640 --> 0:18:20.440 What it targe you the wake visit or just because 0:18:20.440 --> 0:18:23.320 they had another guard coming in. Honestly, my mama had 0:18:23.359 --> 0:18:26.640 a dream, That's really what it was. Damn. She said, 0:18:26.840 --> 0:18:29.920 you gotta go to Wake forest Ship. I had a dream. 0:18:31.000 --> 0:18:33.560 It's less it was over and then let's talk about 0:18:34.240 --> 0:18:35.720 that's crazy. So you know what I'm saying, you do 0:18:35.760 --> 0:18:38.720 your thing. Iway stay Now it's time to go to 0:18:38.760 --> 0:18:41.960 the NBA. How was it like the workout process? You 0:18:42.000 --> 0:18:43.800 know what I'm saying, Because you were second round pick, 0:18:43.880 --> 0:18:45.320 so I imagine you probably had to do a lot 0:18:45.320 --> 0:18:47.200 more shit than like you know, most people have to 0:18:47.280 --> 0:18:49.159 who going on a couple of top slots. Was it 0:18:49.200 --> 0:18:50.680 more favorable for you or was it like more of 0:18:50.680 --> 0:18:52.280 a stressful time? Like damn, Like I gotta go get 0:18:52.280 --> 0:18:54.639 this ship cracking, Like yeah, I mean to be honest 0:18:54.680 --> 0:18:57.960 with you, you know, my agent had a good plan 0:18:58.040 --> 0:19:00.840 of like what teams he knew, like actually would value 0:19:00.960 --> 0:19:04.040 like what I was, what I brought. And I remember 0:19:04.080 --> 0:19:07.719 my last workout was Indiana, and I just remember him 0:19:07.800 --> 0:19:10.199 he all the other workouts, whether it was like the Clippers, 0:19:10.960 --> 0:19:14.600 I forget who else I worked out for, but he 0:19:14.680 --> 0:19:16.480 was like that one like you need, like that's the 0:19:16.520 --> 0:19:19.639 one you need to shill. And I'm like, what are 0:19:19.640 --> 0:19:21.640 you talking about, Like they're about they're trying to trade. 0:19:21.960 --> 0:19:24.159 He's like they might trade that first round pick, but 0:19:24.200 --> 0:19:26.199 they have a second round pick. Da da da. So 0:19:26.240 --> 0:19:28.040 I think I was in there with like Yogi Pharaoh, 0:19:29.840 --> 0:19:33.760 Check Diallo, maybe even Bryce Johnson. I can't remember, but 0:19:34.280 --> 0:19:36.399 I ended up playing really well in that workout and 0:19:36.520 --> 0:19:39.840 Kevin Pritchard I remember, yeah it came and had a 0:19:39.840 --> 0:19:41.840 conversation with me after and I was like, oh damn, 0:19:41.880 --> 0:19:44.240 that went better than all the other workouts. Then you 0:19:44.280 --> 0:19:47.600 get to draft night and I was the best worst 0:19:47.680 --> 0:19:51.600 night in my life. It was fifty picks before you 0:19:51.800 --> 0:19:55.000 That was like four hours of sitting there just waiting. 0:19:55.040 --> 0:19:59.040 It felt like forever and then you know that's when 0:19:59.040 --> 0:20:01.280 you can. I mean, that whole trade happened. He was 0:20:01.359 --> 0:20:03.840 coming in then, so Jeff really kind of stole like 0:20:04.080 --> 0:20:06.960 the limelight because it was like the Indiana kids coming 0:20:06.960 --> 0:20:12.320 back like yeah, I'm like, yeah, yeah, we ain't gonna 0:20:12.320 --> 0:20:15.240 talk about fifty. We just got this dude. He chose 0:20:15.320 --> 0:20:19.119 that weekend number. I feel would tell you said you 0:20:19.160 --> 0:20:24.280 was gonna pick fifty. I was gonna where zero, but na, 0:20:24.400 --> 0:20:26.040 he wasn't giving that up. So I had forty four 0:20:26.080 --> 0:20:29.560 so I can throw a west side elligates. But I 0:20:29.680 --> 0:20:31.800 was just as mad as you. But go ahead. Nah. 0:20:31.880 --> 0:20:33.680 But I want to ask you, though, was you thinking 0:20:33.840 --> 0:20:35.440 NBA the whole time or was you like, yo, I 0:20:35.520 --> 0:20:38.040 might have to go overseas or nothing, like, no, I'm 0:20:38.080 --> 0:20:40.399 going to the league. I mean I always like the league. 0:20:40.480 --> 0:20:42.919 Was always like that's where I wanted to go. But 0:20:43.000 --> 0:20:45.000 to be honest with you, I never was like working 0:20:45.000 --> 0:20:46.760 on like I gotta get to the league where like 0:20:46.880 --> 0:20:48.800 most people do. I was like I'm trying to be 0:20:48.880 --> 0:20:51.000 All American or I'm trying to be you know what 0:20:51.040 --> 0:20:53.840 I mean, first Team All American or like a big 0:20:54.119 --> 0:20:55.800 Big twelve Player of the Year and then it was like, 0:20:55.840 --> 0:20:59.280 oh shit, your name's on draft boards. Like I was like, damn, 0:20:59.280 --> 0:21:01.800 I could actually because my whole like like if you 0:21:01.840 --> 0:21:04.480 look at my game, like yeah it is nasty, it's effective, 0:21:05.000 --> 0:21:07.280 but like I never really thought because nobody ever gave 0:21:07.280 --> 0:21:09.760 me like the reassurance to be like, yo, you your 0:21:09.800 --> 0:21:11.679 game is league. You know what I mean? Like you, 0:21:11.960 --> 0:21:14.159 it was always like yeah, you nice, like if we 0:21:14.240 --> 0:21:18.600 played at the y MC. I've always been I mean, 0:21:18.640 --> 0:21:24.760 like someone stay true to who he was. But like 0:21:24.800 --> 0:21:26.560 you look at my game now, like you watch like 0:21:26.840 --> 0:21:30.679 college film, I was spin moves up and understil Like 0:21:30.960 --> 0:21:33.720 now it's like catching, shooting and drive and obviously I 0:21:33.720 --> 0:21:35.800 could do other stuff, but you realize, like if you 0:21:35.800 --> 0:21:37.920 could fit a role, there's probably like five to six 0:21:38.000 --> 0:21:39.880 to seven roles on the team. If you could fit 0:21:40.240 --> 0:21:43.880 one of those, you could really like just stick it out. 0:21:44.320 --> 0:21:46.240 Like I didn't realize that. Like when I first got 0:21:46.240 --> 0:21:49.159 to Indiana, like I'll never forget, it was preseason and 0:21:49.160 --> 0:21:52.320 I got in and I traveled and I seen Nate McMillan. 0:21:52.320 --> 0:21:54.879 He was walking to like the coach's hudder, and he 0:21:55.000 --> 0:21:58.399 was like someone has to talk to him. He travels 0:21:58.440 --> 0:22:01.679 every time he's about to dribble into my head, I'm like, 0:22:02.119 --> 0:22:05.199 I should just never dribble again, you know what I mean? Like, 0:22:05.440 --> 0:22:08.480 so you gotta find like where you where you really fit, 0:22:08.600 --> 0:22:10.520 and who's going to give you an opportunity to do that? 0:22:10.600 --> 0:22:12.439 Like not throwing shade at him, but it like it 0:22:12.520 --> 0:22:15.159 kind of helped me realize, like, all right, there's some 0:22:15.200 --> 0:22:17.520 things that I could get away with before, but now 0:22:17.560 --> 0:22:19.880 it's like all right now the box of like being 0:22:19.920 --> 0:22:24.720 a corner three point maker. That that helped me just 0:22:25.000 --> 0:22:27.200 stick around long enough to get more opportunities to show 0:22:27.200 --> 0:22:28.960 what else I could do. Who puts you? Like? Who? 0:22:29.119 --> 0:22:35.919 Who got you into that mindset? Though? Because Quinn Snyder, Yeah, uh, 0:22:35.920 --> 0:22:38.080 he's like a I don't know how to explain it, 0:22:38.080 --> 0:22:42.320 but he's like a basketball and yeah, like a mad scientist. 0:22:42.400 --> 0:22:46.680 Like that's like he's just so in depth with his detail, 0:22:48.119 --> 0:22:49.919 you know that. I just remember like he had one 0:22:49.920 --> 0:22:52.280 of the assistant coaches come talk to me. It was like, hey, 0:22:52.400 --> 0:22:55.119 you know, obviously we signed to you, but if you 0:22:55.160 --> 0:22:57.840 want to play, like you have to make that shot 0:22:57.920 --> 0:23:00.080 and not let someone just straight line drive you on 0:23:00.080 --> 0:23:02.760 the other end, all right, just start running to the corner, 0:23:02.800 --> 0:23:06.439 I'll pass it the ball. Corner threes. So literally, like 0:23:06.480 --> 0:23:08.000 my first year when I was with them, all I 0:23:08.000 --> 0:23:10.520 did was just rep out corner threes. And you know 0:23:10.560 --> 0:23:12.200 how the NBA is, like if you don't know who 0:23:12.200 --> 0:23:14.480 a dude is and you out there, the ball gets 0:23:14.480 --> 0:23:17.679 passing on three point line, you're like, man, so if 0:23:17.680 --> 0:23:20.880 you miss, all right, they're gonna keep. But you start making, 0:23:20.960 --> 0:23:24.119 then you start getting reputation like all right, like this 0:23:24.200 --> 0:23:26.639 dude can make shots. And then you know the evolution 0:23:26.680 --> 0:23:29.639 of three point shot and making you know, on the move, 0:23:29.840 --> 0:23:32.160 you know, yeah, all that, and then you eventually figure 0:23:32.200 --> 0:23:35.119 out like damn, if I can make three pointers and 0:23:35.200 --> 0:23:38.240 keep guys out of superstars laps when they ice oning, 0:23:38.760 --> 0:23:41.240 that's that's a role, you know, And that's kind of 0:23:41.240 --> 0:23:44.840 like what I've carved out here. And uh, it didn't 0:23:44.840 --> 0:23:48.760 look that promising when I was my rookie year, but 0:23:49.000 --> 0:23:51.760 it took some time to figure out, and uh, I'm 0:23:51.800 --> 0:23:55.240 going this is year seven. So it's crazy. A salute 0:23:55.280 --> 0:23:56.960 to that bro, because the way that you made it, 0:23:57.000 --> 0:23:58.680 like you said, you didn't have a situation where you 0:23:58.720 --> 0:24:00.320 just came in and got drafted. I'm playing and I'm 0:24:00.359 --> 0:24:02.679 here next contract. You had to really grind, and like 0:24:02.720 --> 0:24:05.720 you said, you came into a situation to that shit 0:24:05.840 --> 0:24:07.439 changes a lot of players because you came into a 0:24:07.480 --> 0:24:10.560 votel situation in Indiana where a lot of unmoving parsons 0:24:10.560 --> 0:24:12.520 going on and a lot of things should have happened 0:24:12.560 --> 0:24:14.520 that didn't happen. Also, like you said, shout out to 0:24:14.560 --> 0:24:16.560 coast with Milan, but you know where he was at 0:24:16.600 --> 0:24:18.359 with the organization of that and with the players. That 0:24:18.400 --> 0:24:20.800 was all different places. And this is your first experience 0:24:20.840 --> 0:24:23.199 in the business of basketball. That can break a lot 0:24:23.200 --> 0:24:24.560 of people because, like you said, you big toe a 0:24:24.600 --> 0:24:26.280 player of the year, Like you come in like I'm 0:24:26.359 --> 0:24:28.119 used to do whatever I want to and it's like, nah, 0:24:28.160 --> 0:24:30.600 you gotta do this. That breaks a lot of players 0:24:30.680 --> 0:24:32.560 right there. Yeah, off the sense of I've been doing 0:24:32.560 --> 0:24:33.760 this shit in my whole life and now you're telling 0:24:33.760 --> 0:24:35.320 me how to play. But like you said, you took 0:24:35.320 --> 0:24:37.640 advantage of a situation and you're making a full career 0:24:37.640 --> 0:24:39.480 out of that ship. Now we're talking about the pace. 0:24:39.560 --> 0:24:41.199 You know what I'm saying, Who was your fatman? You 0:24:41.280 --> 0:24:43.840 was a rookie? Who was your who was your guy? 0:24:43.880 --> 0:24:51.960 That just the first trip we had, he pulled me aside, 0:24:52.040 --> 0:24:53.919 and you know he was like, listen, you know your 0:24:53.960 --> 0:24:56.280 rookie year is gonna be crazy. But you know I 0:24:56.400 --> 0:24:58.919 got you, Dad. I'm gonna ask you to do a 0:24:58.920 --> 0:25:02.000 couple of things here and the A couple of things. Yeah, 0:25:02.119 --> 0:25:04.840 I remember. One of them was the dove soap at 0:25:04.880 --> 0:25:07.159 the at the every game. I can appreciate that my 0:25:07.160 --> 0:25:08.840 man cares about his hygiene, you know what I mean. 0:25:09.200 --> 0:25:13.960 He wasn't using the week week soap said. He made 0:25:13.960 --> 0:25:16.439 you go get the dove so so every so everything. 0:25:16.520 --> 0:25:21.520 You probably still get the dumb yeah, absolutely, So not 0:25:21.760 --> 0:25:24.119 go go crazy. I don't want to interrupt your interview 0:25:24.160 --> 0:25:33.560 for real. Go ahead. You don't that they give you. 0:25:33.600 --> 0:25:37.560 It was like handsen it like yeah, no, no, like 0:25:37.600 --> 0:25:40.480 I'm talking about like it's up on the wall like type. 0:25:40.520 --> 0:25:47.120 So I thought, okay, my bad. I didn't like he'd 0:25:47.119 --> 0:25:50.320 be like, hey, yo, here's something. You know. I ain't 0:25:50.320 --> 0:25:52.480 gonna go in to detail, but you know, just let 0:25:52.520 --> 0:25:55.880 me every every road game that we have, like can 0:25:55.920 --> 0:25:58.560 I get some some dove soap? You know what I mean? 0:25:59.320 --> 0:26:02.760 So I always carry around like soap. I also had 0:26:02.800 --> 0:26:06.640 to carry around the cards. Uh, got to go. Get 0:26:06.720 --> 0:26:10.639 long has done us. So you know when when some 0:26:10.680 --> 0:26:12.280 of the other events, you know it didn't step up 0:26:12.320 --> 0:26:14.600 to you know what i mean, helped me out. My 0:26:14.600 --> 0:26:16.560 my good man, would you know what I mean look 0:26:16.560 --> 0:26:23.720 out for me and uh but another one and then 0:26:23.760 --> 0:26:25.920 not pay and then not pay you. So that's kind 0:26:25.920 --> 0:26:29.040 of like like a lost art. So when when he 0:26:29.040 --> 0:26:31.600 first was like, yeah, like here you go, like this 0:26:31.640 --> 0:26:33.119 is what I expect out of you, you know what 0:26:33.200 --> 0:26:34.800 I mean, Like I'm gonna look out for you if 0:26:34.800 --> 0:26:36.280 you ever had any questions, you know what I mean. 0:26:36.320 --> 0:26:39.439 And from there that was that was the best season, 0:26:40.880 --> 0:26:43.280 you know what I mean. I mean, I think every 0:26:43.359 --> 0:26:47.000 rookie should have have a vet that actually like looks 0:26:47.040 --> 0:26:48.320 out for them. I mean I think I was the 0:26:48.320 --> 0:26:51.840 only rookie on the team, but he actually like showed me, show, 0:26:52.440 --> 0:26:54.159 showed me the game, you know what I mean, like 0:26:54.760 --> 0:26:57.640 kept it reil and you know that was a rough 0:26:58.080 --> 0:27:01.000 season for me, but you know, my God always always 0:27:01.040 --> 0:27:05.480 kept interesting. Another one was Al Jefferson. I can't forget him. 0:27:05.520 --> 0:27:10.160 He was making me get him a breakfast sandwich before 0:27:10.200 --> 0:27:14.200 every shoot around and Jimmy John's after every shoot around 0:27:14.240 --> 0:27:17.280 with like potato chips and water. And I remember Weir 0:27:17.359 --> 0:27:20.400 was in New York and uh, I ordered like an 0:27:20.400 --> 0:27:22.959 egg sandwich from and they did some fancy like this 0:27:23.040 --> 0:27:26.640 is the Southern dude, so he like wants scrambled eggs, bacon, cheest, 0:27:26.720 --> 0:27:28.720 like just the regular way. Not so they gave me 0:27:28.800 --> 0:27:31.919 like poached eggs and it was like right before the 0:27:31.920 --> 0:27:34.840 bust was coming down. But I ordered the omelet for myself, 0:27:35.440 --> 0:27:38.040 so I'm like, oh, like I got an omelet. But 0:27:38.160 --> 0:27:41.159 so I ended up like cutting half an omelet and 0:27:41.240 --> 0:27:43.800 like tuck the post eggs off, threw it on the bagel, 0:27:44.040 --> 0:27:46.119 put the bacon on it, and like there's some cheese 0:27:46.119 --> 0:27:48.080 on it. Put it together, and I'm walking down because 0:27:48.320 --> 0:27:51.880 whenever like the breakfast sanwich was sucks, he'd be like, yo, fella, man, 0:27:51.920 --> 0:27:54.719 it's the worst shit I ever had. And I'd be like, 0:27:54.960 --> 0:27:58.439 oh yeah. He would be like you the worst rookie 0:27:58.440 --> 0:28:00.639 out and ever had, man like you shout out like 0:28:00.840 --> 0:28:03.560 stupid like that, and he was just joking, but you know, 0:28:03.600 --> 0:28:05.840 after all, you'd be like, damn, I gotta be better. 0:28:06.119 --> 0:28:07.960 So when I'm getting on the bus, I'm like shake. 0:28:08.040 --> 0:28:09.560 He always set in the back, so I walked it 0:28:09.600 --> 0:28:11.720 all the way down in the back and I'm like, damn, 0:28:11.720 --> 0:28:13.959 he definitely gonna know. I cut this off and it's 0:28:14.000 --> 0:28:17.240 like hanging out the big gol like listen. So we 0:28:17.440 --> 0:28:19.200 ride and I remember we're in New York. Were riding 0:28:19.240 --> 0:28:21.480 the shoot around, which is crazy. We had to shoot 0:28:21.520 --> 0:28:28.919 around in New York. That's crazy, sou He's we like 0:28:29.040 --> 0:28:31.760 ten minutes in and he's like, yong fella and I'm like, 0:28:31.840 --> 0:28:34.720 oh shit, like here we go. He was like, this 0:28:34.880 --> 0:28:36.840 got to be one of the best ones ever. Man. 0:28:37.440 --> 0:28:40.000 I was like this, like, you couldn't even make this 0:28:40.040 --> 0:28:44.000 shitt up. But he shout out to big as. He was, No, 0:28:44.920 --> 0:28:48.440 you didn't have to do that. Shit. Do what I'm saying. 0:28:48.480 --> 0:28:50.240 You didn't really have to do that. So shout out 0:28:50.280 --> 0:28:52.640 to YouTube for putting the fourth that man if I 0:28:52.640 --> 0:28:58.240 didn't want, Yeah, he had that motherucker post. Oh my 0:28:58.320 --> 0:29:10.600 mom nah. But George, though you laugh, would you know 0:29:10.600 --> 0:29:15.120 how I was? I was? He was cool. Nobody telling me. 0:29:16.600 --> 0:29:18.080 That's why I asked. I was like, I know some 0:29:18.120 --> 0:29:20.840 of his rookie stories here that school. He took it easier. 0:29:21.120 --> 0:29:23.840 That boy, you had to do so cool. I got 0:29:23.880 --> 0:29:26.080 the best part about his rookie years after our season 0:29:26.160 --> 0:29:32.400 was over, my fat Yeah you could. This is the podcast. 0:29:32.400 --> 0:29:38.200 We don't have to because that interesting. But literally he 0:29:38.440 --> 0:29:42.360 my rookie year after the seasons. We're playing one on one. Yes, yeah, 0:29:42.520 --> 0:29:45.880 this is where my knee problems start. You remember that ship. Yeah, 0:29:45.920 --> 0:29:48.200 I slipped, bro, I'm a free agent. I slipped. I 0:29:48.240 --> 0:29:50.040 banged my knee on the ground. I'm like, oh shit, 0:29:50.320 --> 0:29:52.280 I was so scared. I thought I ended it. I 0:29:52.280 --> 0:29:55.000 thought I looked at him. I'm like, oh shit, I 0:29:55.000 --> 0:29:57.120 got quick playing. I just left. I ain't come back 0:29:57.160 --> 0:30:00.640 to the facility at all. I sucked up my ship. 0:30:00.760 --> 0:30:02.600 My agent called me. I think I sucked my ship up. 0:30:02.800 --> 0:30:04.080 But I had like two or a little piece of 0:30:04.040 --> 0:30:07.600 my niscuits. It was over, damn. But then he still 0:30:07.600 --> 0:30:12.120 had to go collect that. I went through that motherfucking 0:30:12.320 --> 0:30:15.480 drill sh Minnesota. I'm over there. She was hurt, like, 0:30:17.400 --> 0:30:20.560 are you figuring this out? Yeah, they do yours on 0:30:20.560 --> 0:30:22.520 the knee or nothing. I was like, hell, yeah, we 0:30:22.680 --> 0:30:26.280 go sign this motherfucker. Yeah, that's one thing I'll say, 0:30:26.440 --> 0:30:27.840 my nigger, he go gets to that check and I'll 0:30:27.920 --> 0:30:33.080 respect that, no question. So that's you know what I'm saying, 0:30:33.080 --> 0:30:34.520 you go through that first year and then after that, 0:30:34.600 --> 0:30:36.120 you know, take us a little bit through that journey, 0:30:36.120 --> 0:30:38.719 because I'm saying you obviously moved around a little bit. 0:30:38.720 --> 0:30:40.400 He was in the G League. How was it like 0:30:40.440 --> 0:30:41.880 going through that first year in the NBA and they're 0:30:41.880 --> 0:30:43.760 transitioning to the G League and then you end up 0:30:43.800 --> 0:30:46.240 transditioning back out to Utah. But how was that Thompston 0:30:46.320 --> 0:30:49.920 for you? Like, man, that was a humbling experience. That's like, 0:30:49.960 --> 0:30:52.280 I mean, you I get cut, you know, so you 0:30:52.400 --> 0:30:55.320 hit rock bottom. You're like, damn, but I just mess 0:30:55.400 --> 0:30:57.880 up the only opportunity that I'll ever have to to 0:30:57.960 --> 0:31:01.080 play in the NBA. And and then the best thing 0:31:01.080 --> 0:31:04.040 I did was I was able to sign a exhibit ten, 0:31:04.080 --> 0:31:05.640 which is like you're going down to the league with 0:31:05.680 --> 0:31:08.520 the Golden State Warriors, so I could see how yeah, 0:31:08.560 --> 0:31:12.280 so I could see how like k D Steph Clay Draymond, 0:31:12.320 --> 0:31:14.040 how they work like every day. And then to be 0:31:14.120 --> 0:31:17.000 around guys like andre I goodal A, Sean Livingston, like 0:31:17.280 --> 0:31:19.680 you got to see like, so I went from one 0:31:20.200 --> 0:31:22.240 one side of the spectrum to the other where it's 0:31:22.280 --> 0:31:25.160 like they just won a championship and so just to 0:31:25.200 --> 0:31:27.400 see how they had a daily routine. I think that 0:31:27.480 --> 0:31:29.479 was the biggest thing for me, is just you know, 0:31:29.680 --> 0:31:31.640 you can't just work on the days that you feel 0:31:31.680 --> 0:31:34.160 like work. And it was more or less that, you know, 0:31:34.160 --> 0:31:36.280 you gotta do it everywhere every day and get a 0:31:36.360 --> 0:31:39.080 little bit better every single day. So obviously that was humbling, 0:31:39.640 --> 0:31:41.800 you know, being there and being in the G League 0:31:41.880 --> 0:31:44.640 having to start making you go. I think I made 0:31:44.640 --> 0:31:47.760 six hundred and fifty my rookie year, and then my 0:31:47.840 --> 0:31:50.000 checks every two weeks were like nine hundred dollars because 0:31:50.000 --> 0:31:53.000 I was making twenty five grand in California, damn and 0:31:53.080 --> 0:31:55.200 a Cruise Warriors. That's when it was like, all right, 0:31:55.240 --> 0:31:58.080 I better make I better make this shakeout or you 0:31:58.080 --> 0:32:00.840 know what I mean. I don't got no other choice. 0:32:00.880 --> 0:32:04.720 So obviously the G League is a it's the same game, 0:32:04.760 --> 0:32:06.640 but it's totally different. You can get away with, you know, 0:32:06.720 --> 0:32:09.400 over dribbling and stuff like that. But it allowed me 0:32:09.440 --> 0:32:12.160 to show what I really was doing in college at 0:32:12.360 --> 0:32:14.760 kind of the NBA level. And then I got that 0:32:14.840 --> 0:32:17.320 two way contract, which rather than having to be on 0:32:17.360 --> 0:32:19.760 a ten day which is I can't imagine the pressure 0:32:19.760 --> 0:32:21.480 to do is on a ten day, got a field, 0:32:22.800 --> 0:32:24.360 so then I was allowed to like you know, play 0:32:24.400 --> 0:32:26.479 the rest of the year on a two way. Obviously 0:32:26.480 --> 0:32:29.080 he got practice time, you know, summer league, and I 0:32:29.120 --> 0:32:30.880 had a good summer league and I ended up getting 0:32:30.920 --> 0:32:33.960 signed as like one of the fourteen fifteenth man. And 0:32:34.360 --> 0:32:38.560 the thing that saved me was Tabo Cephalosha had got 0:32:38.600 --> 0:32:41.320 suspended for five games. Yeah, so they had to play 0:32:41.360 --> 0:32:44.000 me in like spot minutes and I made shots for 0:32:44.040 --> 0:32:47.880 five games. He came back played over me, but I 0:32:47.960 --> 0:32:50.000 ended up getting back in the rotation and from there 0:32:50.080 --> 0:32:53.400 on how it was. And that's real, breaking a rotation. 0:32:53.720 --> 0:32:55.440 Like I always say, it's like as much as people 0:32:55.440 --> 0:32:57.760 talk about athletes and like how much they get paid, Yeah, 0:32:57.760 --> 0:32:59.800 but you couldn't imagine like people grind up for them 0:32:59.840 --> 0:33:02.760 to days. You gotta make the most out of nothing 0:33:03.240 --> 0:33:06.280 because you ain't getting too many opportunities borrowing somebody getting 0:33:06.320 --> 0:33:08.360 crazy injured. You probably not gonna shoot the ball that much. 0:33:08.480 --> 0:33:10.480 You gotta do something in that time period for a 0:33:10.520 --> 0:33:12.280 team to be like, hey we got to keep him around. 0:33:12.480 --> 0:33:14.880 Why are they looking at eight other different prospects. But 0:33:14.920 --> 0:33:16.880 like you said, you made that shit happen. Got there, 0:33:16.960 --> 0:33:18.720 got the All Star got it cracking. And then you 0:33:18.760 --> 0:33:20.720 get to Utah and know what I'm saying with coach Schnyder, 0:33:21.320 --> 0:33:23.360 how was that because you was a Utah when Utah 0:33:23.400 --> 0:33:24.560 and what I'm saying had like a revamp. You know 0:33:24.600 --> 0:33:27.760 what I'm saying, You got you got Rudy. How was 0:33:27.800 --> 0:33:31.000 that experience? Like getting back nickname? Oh wow, I was 0:33:31.080 --> 0:33:34.200 gonna bring that up. Now he had a fire nickname. 0:33:36.520 --> 0:33:44.720 See here you go. What that's the g wagon it 0:33:44.800 --> 0:33:47.160 went for mini Vintag told me to talk about I'm 0:33:47.160 --> 0:33:53.360 talking about nah. So I was. I was out the 0:33:53.440 --> 0:33:56.120 rotation and we was beating Brooklyn like bad, and they 0:33:56.400 --> 0:33:57.800 subbed me in the game and I had a chance 0:33:57.840 --> 0:34:00.120 to go up and dunking, you know, like them the 0:34:00.200 --> 0:34:03.760 rim grade is like barely over the rim. So Joe Ingoes, 0:34:03.800 --> 0:34:06.560 who's like the king of talking shit on the team, 0:34:06.720 --> 0:34:10.680 was like, man, what the heck was that? I was like, whoa, whoa, Listen, 0:34:10.719 --> 0:34:12.480 I'm not like a Ferrari like the rest of y'all. 0:34:12.640 --> 0:34:14.239 More like a minivan. I need a couple of apps 0:34:14.280 --> 0:34:17.120 around the block five get the top speed and then 0:34:17.160 --> 0:34:21.200 the silar reports like the minivan. I love that. And 0:34:21.239 --> 0:34:24.279 then I was screwed after that if you would have 0:34:24.320 --> 0:34:27.880 went to the rucker there like the minivan, Yeah, like escalade, 0:34:27.960 --> 0:34:31.160 you know what I mean. When I heard it, I 0:34:31.280 --> 0:34:33.839 was like, they call you the minivan. Yeah, this dude 0:34:33.840 --> 0:34:35.960 was talking when I was shooting threes in the corner, 0:34:36.000 --> 0:34:37.640 you know, trying to make a living. This dude was 0:34:37.640 --> 0:34:40.840 on the bench like yo, No, he was like you 0:34:40.920 --> 0:34:42.560 made that. I knew you was gonna look at me. 0:34:42.640 --> 0:34:47.960 That's why it was so fun. Compete that gets him 0:34:47.960 --> 0:34:50.759 because it's like somebody you watched go through it and yeah, 0:34:50.800 --> 0:34:53.360 it's like damn, he having his moment and he was killing, 0:34:54.320 --> 0:34:58.360 mocking shoot. And like you said, your time is impeccable 0:34:58.400 --> 0:35:00.360 because a lot of people come in the league different 0:35:00.360 --> 0:35:03.000 times to where your specialty may expire in two years. 0:35:03.200 --> 0:35:06.160 You can't in a situation to where it now the 0:35:06.239 --> 0:35:09.120 premium the most important position. Like you look at guys 0:35:09.120 --> 0:35:11.200 like Doc and Robinson, k Robinson, I've had a ship 0:35:11.280 --> 0:35:12.880 telling them to do one thing and now they're kind 0:35:12.920 --> 0:35:15.000 of like, where really fuck with that? But he hit 0:35:15.080 --> 0:35:17.480 at the right time. My god. As you can get 0:35:17.480 --> 0:35:20.000 a test to free agency matters about timing out, about 0:35:20.040 --> 0:35:24.520 situation timing and you in a perfect a perfect situation 0:35:24.600 --> 0:35:26.400 right now, boy, and you go are better than what 0:35:26.400 --> 0:35:28.960 they give you credit for our times like yo, And 0:35:29.040 --> 0:35:31.760 that's that's another thing that I want to talk about. 0:35:31.880 --> 0:35:34.920 Let him know. The perception is crazy. You got a 0:35:34.960 --> 0:35:38.160 little yeah, because at the end of the day, someone 0:35:38.160 --> 0:35:40.640 will look at someone that looks like they can defend, right, 0:35:41.080 --> 0:35:43.759 but someone will drive past them four straight times and 0:35:43.800 --> 0:35:45.560 they don't even you know what I mean, don't even 0:35:46.080 --> 0:35:49.000 bad eye. But if someone go by me, oh look 0:35:49.040 --> 0:35:55.000 at them, look defend That's what I mean. Yeah, I 0:35:55.040 --> 0:35:57.400 would never defender though. Yeah, but you know what it 0:35:57.440 --> 0:36:00.239 was is like because you have like the emotionless face 0:36:00.280 --> 0:36:02.920 that people didn't think that you cared right. So like 0:36:03.360 --> 0:36:05.440 he would even tell me on the bench watched this 0:36:05.760 --> 0:36:08.000 like he'll go go throw a lob and be like 0:36:09.760 --> 0:36:12.480 and coach, be like just in the game today, Like 0:36:14.040 --> 0:36:17.680 what because yeah, for real? But he'd be doing the 0:36:17.719 --> 0:36:19.919 same stuff like dropping down and be a nice pass 0:36:20.040 --> 0:36:22.080 lay up and be like he look look at him, 0:36:22.120 --> 0:36:23.839 Look he looks like he's sleep out of there. Like look, 0:36:24.200 --> 0:36:26.440 I'm like, what do you want him? Like that? Like 0:36:26.520 --> 0:36:29.839 that was never you, but he he knew you knew 0:36:29.880 --> 0:36:31.560 how to play the game, and now that I'm seven 0:36:31.600 --> 0:36:38.680 years in, I know exactly. So would you call yourself 0:36:38.719 --> 0:36:43.239 an elite defender? Uh? I mean, Okay, here's what I'm 0:36:43.239 --> 0:36:46.720 gonna say. I feel like there's guys that get picked 0:36:46.719 --> 0:36:48.440 are you know in the playoffs, are like that guy's 0:36:48.480 --> 0:36:54.800 in every Like I'm doing two things. I'm talking crazy 0:36:54.880 --> 0:36:59.680 shit and I'm just gonna be ultra physical, like you 0:36:59.719 --> 0:37:01.960 gonna have to have me just fouled, like you know 0:37:01.960 --> 0:37:03.520 what I mean. It's not like you're gonna have to 0:37:03.600 --> 0:37:07.080 hit tough contested jump rover. You're not just gonna and 0:37:07.080 --> 0:37:08.799 then like think you're just driving by me, Like if 0:37:08.800 --> 0:37:11.040 you drive by me one time, it's like, you know 0:37:12.000 --> 0:37:14.080 exactly where Like these other guys that are out there 0:37:14.080 --> 0:37:15.759 that get picked on, they're like they don't want to 0:37:15.760 --> 0:37:20.120 touch nobody up. Yeah, No, it ain't sweeting. We ain't 0:37:20.120 --> 0:37:24.239 switching for y'a. So how was it like when you 0:37:24.280 --> 0:37:29.279 had to leave Utah? Was it bitter sweet dad? No? 0:37:29.520 --> 0:37:31.759 I mean that hurt. I mean that really hurt. Like 0:37:31.840 --> 0:37:34.279 that was like the first time where I felt like 0:37:34.360 --> 0:37:37.640 I really like earned earned my roster, spart earned to 0:37:37.680 --> 0:37:42.640 be there, and it was like, yeah, like we we 0:37:42.719 --> 0:37:45.600 signed Rudy Gay, Like you know, we're going in a 0:37:45.640 --> 0:37:49.440 different direction, and you know, I'll never throw shade on 0:37:49.480 --> 0:37:51.680 another player, but obviously you look at other people and 0:37:51.719 --> 0:37:53.279 where they are in their career, like Rudy Gay has 0:37:53.280 --> 0:37:55.120 had a hell of a career. But in my mind, 0:37:55.520 --> 0:37:57.919 in my mind, I was like, but like what I did, 0:37:57.960 --> 0:37:59.839 Like I shot forty percent, like you know what I mean, 0:37:59.880 --> 0:38:02.440 I came in, never complained and like that was just 0:38:02.480 --> 0:38:06.640 taking for granted. But you know, like it up once 0:38:06.680 --> 0:38:09.040 you left, like because it seems like that was all 0:38:09.080 --> 0:38:12.200 like super cool, like even seeing y'all after the game, like, yeah, 0:38:12.560 --> 0:38:15.759 was a cheesecake factory and shit, I'm like that's the 0:38:15.800 --> 0:38:21.239 only place I could go for real. Ru Rudy was 0:38:21.280 --> 0:38:25.279 there temporarily, he was trying. He still there, but I'm 0:38:25.320 --> 0:38:27.239 just saying I just felt like they probably I don't 0:38:27.239 --> 0:38:29.239 think that was really where he probably wanted to go 0:38:29.280 --> 0:38:31.600 at first though you think really wanted to be there. 0:38:31.960 --> 0:38:34.120 I mean shit, I mean, I mean you go where 0:38:34.160 --> 0:38:35.600 the money. I mean, you go where the money goes. 0:38:35.640 --> 0:38:38.600 But so like you when you're like when you're a 0:38:38.680 --> 0:38:41.520 free agent, you're thinking like if the team sign signed 0:38:41.520 --> 0:38:43.040 someone that kind of does the same thing that you 0:38:43.120 --> 0:38:46.040 do for more money than where you're making. They chose 0:38:46.160 --> 0:38:48.680 him over you, so I had to go find another place. 0:38:49.000 --> 0:38:51.799 Oh yeah, which that was like damn, So you didn't 0:38:51.840 --> 0:38:53.520 really value what I did. You felt like you had 0:38:53.560 --> 0:38:56.520 to go get someone else to do something that I 0:38:56.560 --> 0:38:58.960 did and think they're gonna do it better. So that 0:38:59.040 --> 0:39:01.520 was my first time and that I never had free 0:39:01.560 --> 0:39:03.880 agency where teams were like, hey, we're asking about you. 0:39:03.960 --> 0:39:06.560 So I was like, I was like, damn, like that 0:39:06.719 --> 0:39:08.839 that really Like that was one where when I got 0:39:08.880 --> 0:39:11.520 to Philly, I was like, damn, I I missed Utah, 0:39:11.640 --> 0:39:14.040 but I know they don't really care about me. And 0:39:14.719 --> 0:39:18.879 then when you play alongside like two superstars that like 0:39:19.200 --> 0:39:22.680 demand like double teams and stuff like that, you like, shit, 0:39:22.920 --> 0:39:27.000 I thought I was opening Utah, but yeah, even like 0:39:27.200 --> 0:39:31.440 I just double team, try to trapping. I hope he missed, 0:39:31.480 --> 0:39:33.480 Like you know what, I'm getting wide open shot after 0:39:33.560 --> 0:39:36.600 wide open shot, and it's it was. It was a 0:39:36.640 --> 0:39:38.640 blessing because I didn't think it was a blessing in 0:39:38.640 --> 0:39:41.720 the beginning, but it really helped, like helped me show 0:39:42.400 --> 0:39:45.360 the NBA or other gms like how much more I 0:39:45.440 --> 0:39:47.600 have to offer in my game if I'm given the 0:39:47.640 --> 0:39:49.880 opportunity and you own a team that's highlighted in the 0:39:49.960 --> 0:39:57.480 last everybody's seeing you every week. Yeah, you think it's 0:39:57.520 --> 0:39:59.000 I mean, obviously it's a difference, but you think it's 0:39:59.000 --> 0:40:00.920 a really big difference, like when you and them smaller 0:40:00.960 --> 0:40:03.640 market teams, Like even if you're going crazy, yeah for sure, 0:40:04.120 --> 0:40:08.080 look at Dave Millard ye talk about it. It It should 0:40:08.080 --> 0:40:09.839 have been an all star off the jump. But like 0:40:09.880 --> 0:40:13.200 being in Sacramento, it's like even though they're playing good 0:40:13.200 --> 0:40:15.000 as hell this year and it's yeah, yeah, they still 0:40:15.040 --> 0:40:17.040 they're like third in the West, and they still don't 0:40:17.040 --> 0:40:19.399 even get like they gonna around get to two seed 0:40:19.880 --> 0:40:22.719 and they still don't give a shit and they haven't 0:40:22.719 --> 0:40:26.840 made a playoffs in fifteen years. Like the bean Man, 0:40:27.960 --> 0:40:29.840 they was it was due, They was due for a 0:40:29.880 --> 0:40:33.160 good year. Yeah, but I mean what you mean there 0:40:33.320 --> 0:40:36.800 was dude, They was due seven years ago. They was 0:40:36.880 --> 0:40:39.920 doing year. They ain't been good since Baby was there. 0:40:41.520 --> 0:40:44.680 Come on, man, that what they're doing over there, that's 0:40:44.760 --> 0:40:46.600 real effort. It's not just the luck, you know what 0:40:46.640 --> 0:40:49.319 I mean. Damn, I ain't saying it was luck. I'm 0:40:49.360 --> 0:40:52.200 just saying it was like it's just supposed to. Yeah, 0:40:52.280 --> 0:40:55.239 I'm not saying that ain't no they were sketchers. You'd 0:40:55.239 --> 0:40:58.120 be like, nah, they ain't doue that bullshit. All I'm 0:40:58.120 --> 0:41:01.239 saying is they they are good team here. They had 0:41:01.360 --> 0:41:04.759 every fucking draft pick since my fucking ninety seven. So 0:41:04.840 --> 0:41:09.279 you first draft first round, you do for a good 0:41:09.320 --> 0:41:12.560 season and disrespect him marpen Backley, but boarded they fuck 0:41:12.680 --> 0:41:14.839 up that draft that was supposed to get them back 0:41:16.600 --> 0:41:20.799 by sill over there no after body had the picks 0:41:20.800 --> 0:41:24.400 on the draft. Shout out to my nigga. The bris 0:41:24.480 --> 0:41:30.839 Cousins fuck the same time. So now blodie out of there. 0:41:30.880 --> 0:41:33.520 See you go. That's why they made it. You play 0:41:33.600 --> 0:41:35.319 with two, you know what I'm saying, Hollo tanem so 0:41:35.360 --> 0:41:37.520 far in your career, I gotta ask you. I think 0:41:37.680 --> 0:41:39.440 obviously we know where you're going with this, But what's 0:41:39.480 --> 0:41:41.520 the difference between playing with Donovan and Rudy and the 0:41:41.520 --> 0:41:48.520 difference between playing with Hardening and b Oh? I mean 0:41:49.000 --> 0:41:50.880 and b demand though I do it for you, bro, 0:41:51.040 --> 0:41:54.319 he demands double teams. Rudy didn't demand no double Yeah. 0:41:54.360 --> 0:41:56.520 I mean, like Rudy is like think about who we 0:41:56.600 --> 0:42:00.080 had like in Utah, right, like we had all a 0:42:00.280 --> 0:42:03.880 like six eight you know, not really NBA athletic like 0:42:03.920 --> 0:42:09.160 shooters like Royce, Nio Joe and Goes Boy. Yeah, we 0:42:09.239 --> 0:42:11.640 even had Mike Conley. So I mean quins Steiner was like, hey, 0:42:12.120 --> 0:42:14.560 worst comes to worst, just press up into your guy, 0:42:14.880 --> 0:42:17.960 stay on his hip, going to the rim rudy, you 0:42:18.000 --> 0:42:19.200 know what I mean, Like at the end of the day, 0:42:19.200 --> 0:42:21.200 I remember sometimes just guided my guy and the rudy 0:42:21.239 --> 0:42:23.200 and then just falling right off into the big like 0:42:23.440 --> 0:42:26.080 he gonna either block. It effected like you're going full speed, 0:42:26.080 --> 0:42:29.400 gotta shoot over a seven two shot blocker. It changes 0:42:29.440 --> 0:42:31.399 the game and we're taking away the three point line, 0:42:32.080 --> 0:42:34.919 I mean defect. Like, so we were allowed to play 0:42:35.000 --> 0:42:38.760 defense a crazy way which didn't give any teams advantage. 0:42:38.800 --> 0:42:40.160 Like if you wanted to beat this, you would have 0:42:40.160 --> 0:42:44.240 had to make like twenty five mid range jump shots 0:42:44.280 --> 0:42:47.319 at like a fifty percent clip, which is like unheard of. 0:42:47.880 --> 0:42:52.759 And then you you know, Donovan was so athletic, dynamic, 0:42:52.800 --> 0:42:55.160 like he just creative out there, like you've seen him 0:42:55.239 --> 0:42:56.880 last night. He hits someone with a sham guy and 0:42:56.880 --> 0:42:59.960 then a pull up three like you know what I mean, 0:43:00.400 --> 0:43:03.239 And then he's just he's just he was something that 0:43:03.239 --> 0:43:05.560 we didn't have. We always you know, I hate to 0:43:05.600 --> 0:43:09.839 say unathletic, but like to the NBA standard of like, 0:43:09.920 --> 0:43:11.600 so none of us had the ability to like really 0:43:11.640 --> 0:43:14.759 go buy anybody. And Quinn's a mastermind at creating advantages. 0:43:15.000 --> 0:43:16.799 Then you have Donovan and someone that could play one 0:43:16.840 --> 0:43:19.200 on one. So it's like two different dynamics because now 0:43:19.200 --> 0:43:22.680 I'm playing with guys that don't need any action, like 0:43:22.920 --> 0:43:26.040 they all go get a bucket regardless from the other 0:43:26.040 --> 0:43:29.439 side of the core in the corner being double team 0:43:29.560 --> 0:43:32.080 like we played last night. I don't know when y'all 0:43:32.080 --> 0:43:35.719 gonna art, But against the Bucks, I mean, James, we 0:43:35.760 --> 0:43:38.319 was down fifteen points going into the fourth quarter. It 0:43:38.400 --> 0:43:41.319 was like James Harden was like, all right, come on, 0:43:41.680 --> 0:43:43.520 like you know what I mean, lay up, three step 0:43:43.560 --> 0:43:47.239 back and next thing, you know, you like like Jayalen 0:43:47.320 --> 0:43:49.719 McDaniel said to me, he was like, oh we win it. 0:43:50.920 --> 0:43:53.879 I was like, yeah, Like this dude just really just 0:43:54.520 --> 0:43:56.920 put the team on his back. And I mean it 0:43:56.960 --> 0:44:00.279 did just two different people, but the dynamic dude of 0:44:00.440 --> 0:44:05.840 Joel and and James, I don't know, I don't know 0:44:05.840 --> 0:44:08.359 if you've ever seen a pick and roll tandem like 0:44:08.400 --> 0:44:11.160 that in this error of the game with switching because 0:44:11.160 --> 0:44:12.920 you can't switch, like were you gonna put your big 0:44:12.960 --> 0:44:15.239 on James, because we're you gonna do, put your the 0:44:15.320 --> 0:44:18.319 guard that's guarded on Joel like it's over, and then 0:44:18.360 --> 0:44:20.960 you surround that with shooting, you know what I mean, 0:44:21.000 --> 0:44:23.319 That's how you get some chicken and in that way, 0:44:23.640 --> 0:44:25.839 like you said it regardless and if you don't cover, 0:44:26.040 --> 0:44:28.080 they're gonna get free throws. And I asked a question 0:44:28.120 --> 0:44:31.520 because people, as much as I'm not the biggest Rudy fair, Yo, 0:44:31.640 --> 0:44:34.759 his defense changed a lot. Like so being able to, 0:44:34.800 --> 0:44:36.759 like you said, close out and send somebody to the 0:44:36.840 --> 0:44:39.000 room can't be just effective. It's being able to throw 0:44:39.040 --> 0:44:40.680 the ball in the post if you playing the right 0:44:40.719 --> 0:44:43.440 way right, No, you you ain't lying. I mean. The 0:44:43.480 --> 0:44:46.520 thing about Joel is that you want to come double team. 0:44:46.560 --> 0:44:48.880 He has that mid range where he'll just shoot over you. 0:44:48.960 --> 0:44:51.759 Elite you see teams just get discouraged because they come 0:44:51.840 --> 0:44:55.000 to double and he's looking and shooting right over you, 0:44:55.040 --> 0:44:58.680 whereas like Rudy, it's more of like a lob threat. 0:44:59.120 --> 0:45:02.480 But on the defense event, he's he's stopped another team 0:45:02.520 --> 0:45:08.960 from scoring twenty easy thirty easy points because they ain't Jilly. 0:45:08.960 --> 0:45:10.759 You know, Jill, you're thinking about that shit for you 0:45:10.760 --> 0:45:12.840 coming to back. Come on, I remember we played, remember 0:45:12.840 --> 0:45:14.880 what he was in India. They're like, go bear, I 0:45:14.880 --> 0:45:17.000 remember dan Bert, Go bear. If you go in there, 0:45:17.640 --> 0:45:19.520 just think about it, whether if you're gonna kick out 0:45:19.719 --> 0:45:22.240 or try and shoot a layer, because damn, his blocks 0:45:22.280 --> 0:45:25.200 turn into like they're like turnovers for us. They're leading 0:45:25.239 --> 0:45:27.399 the fast break points for them. And like you said, 0:45:27.400 --> 0:45:28.840 that's a part of the getting that people don't really 0:45:28.880 --> 0:45:31.480 put together. Like like you said, a quick little contest 0:45:31.560 --> 0:45:32.960 or a block is a layup on the other ear. 0:45:33.200 --> 0:45:35.399 It's just an effect of getting that bitch in the posts. Also, 0:45:35.520 --> 0:45:38.319 James Hard boss here, I don't, I don't know. That's crazy. Yeah, 0:45:38.360 --> 0:45:41.879 James Hard not gotta at absolutely like for no reason. 0:45:41.960 --> 0:45:44.160 I understand every about respected those who had good years. 0:45:44.200 --> 0:45:46.880 I shot down't nobody, but James Harden was cooking two 0:45:47.040 --> 0:45:52.839 eleven and seven. Give somebody else, Just give somebody else. 0:45:53.440 --> 0:45:56.080 He's a hitter. That's just what it is. It's an 0:45:56.080 --> 0:45:59.520 equal opportunity. If anybody else had this stet line, but 0:46:00.320 --> 0:46:04.000 the Max do talk about it, but it's crazy. I 0:46:04.080 --> 0:46:07.600 got a question, though, what are you listening to game day? 0:46:07.640 --> 0:46:10.200 You got some music that gets you together or you know, 0:46:11.280 --> 0:46:16.359 obviously being in Philly, you know Meek Miller eventually comes on. 0:46:16.480 --> 0:46:19.440 But you know who I really really been listening to 0:46:19.560 --> 0:46:24.120 his NBA Young Boy, Yes, my CEG. That's why I mean, 0:46:25.000 --> 0:46:26.879 so I don't So here's the thing. It's like where 0:46:26.920 --> 0:46:29.759 I've come, where I've come from. I can't really say 0:46:29.800 --> 0:46:32.360 that I really, you know, understand something he's talking about. 0:46:32.400 --> 0:46:37.080 But it's okay. I'm here to god. When I heard 0:46:37.680 --> 0:46:40.560 you fuck with NBA with your boy to your boyfar 0:46:42.239 --> 0:46:45.080 that one, I ain't gonna lie, bro, that shocked me. No. 0:46:45.160 --> 0:46:47.680 I mean it's not like like it's one of those 0:46:47.680 --> 0:46:49.480 things that I'm listening to on a constant basis. But 0:46:49.760 --> 0:46:53.799 his music definitely gets me me hype. That's what's something. 0:46:54.239 --> 0:46:56.040 I remember what he was listening to because we had 0:46:56.040 --> 0:46:58.480 a whole argument last week about NAS and I just 0:46:58.520 --> 0:47:00.279 refused to believe that he had one of my playing 0:47:00.360 --> 0:47:06.040 your locker room. But I was getting ready for a game. Respectfully. 0:47:06.280 --> 0:47:08.080 He was a great teammate, you know, who you put 0:47:08.120 --> 0:47:11.560 me on though, okay, which helped me. You know, ladies 0:47:11.560 --> 0:47:18.600 out there, Eric Bellinger, come on man, yeah yeah that's 0:47:18.640 --> 0:47:20.720 a good one. I ain't knock us. We be added 0:47:20.760 --> 0:47:23.399 about music. That's a good one. Yeah. So I didn't 0:47:23.440 --> 0:47:25.080 know nothing about it. He was like, Yo, you got 0:47:25.560 --> 0:47:27.319 this one in head, played this for you? So who 0:47:27.320 --> 0:47:29.080 do you he put you on? Eric B? But who 0:47:29.160 --> 0:47:31.200 who you fu with on R and B side? Though? 0:47:31.920 --> 0:47:36.400 Did he the R and B guru? Uh? Debatable? I 0:47:36.440 --> 0:47:48.120 mean I'm very I like, uh genuine, but see but 0:47:48.200 --> 0:47:51.440 you gotta understand, like, so I'm mixed. I'm mixed, right, okay, 0:47:51.520 --> 0:47:55.680 So like that that side that you know what I mean, 0:47:55.719 --> 0:47:58.080 that side where you're talking about like like someone had 0:47:58.120 --> 0:48:03.160 a cookout, Like I ain't really got too many of those, 0:48:03.960 --> 0:48:08.680 I respect. I got the flow, you know what I mean? 0:48:09.000 --> 0:48:10.759 So I'm still being put on too, you know what 0:48:10.880 --> 0:48:13.480 I'm Okay, I gonna sit up here and lie to 0:48:13.520 --> 0:48:15.759 you and make up something that I never want to 0:48:15.840 --> 0:48:21.200 be you. I got the girl. What's what's y'all doing? Utah? Though? 0:48:21.280 --> 0:48:23.200 Like off the court, what did y'all do? Like for 0:48:23.440 --> 0:48:27.920 they wouldn't playing? It was actually cool because it actually 0:48:27.920 --> 0:48:31.120 gave me like time to just not feel like, you know, 0:48:31.280 --> 0:48:33.400 you're in the city where there's do you like, I 0:48:33.520 --> 0:48:36.000 gotta be doing something like the views. It was cool, 0:48:36.080 --> 0:48:38.640 there was there's good people out there. But I was 0:48:38.719 --> 0:48:41.960 never in a rush to like try and go meet 0:48:42.080 --> 0:48:44.560 up at dinner or I just it was just slow paced. 0:48:44.640 --> 0:48:46.880 So it was more or less just chill. I mean 0:48:46.960 --> 0:48:50.520 there was like rooftops that you know had, I mean 0:48:50.880 --> 0:48:53.160 simple stuff, nothing that you you know, No, I was 0:48:53.200 --> 0:48:55.239 just wondering. I ain't never kicked in Utah, so I 0:48:55.239 --> 0:48:57.879 always yeah, yeah, I mean there's park City is when 0:48:57.920 --> 0:49:01.800 there's sundance out there. There's there's some good times to 0:49:01.840 --> 0:49:09.560 remind you, Iowa no dispectful. We just talking about recruiting 0:49:10.040 --> 0:49:19.000 that I I was flat so like you, I had 0:49:19.080 --> 0:49:23.960 like mountains and I'm talking about the vibe, vibe like 0:49:26.360 --> 0:49:31.800 because drinking wasn't really so now you and Philly. You 0:49:31.840 --> 0:49:33.200 know what I'm saying, how is it going outside? And 0:49:33.239 --> 0:49:35.239 Philly like, how's that can Rodder? You know what I'm saying. 0:49:35.239 --> 0:49:36.640 You're in the locker room with the homies and you're 0:49:36.640 --> 0:49:40.799 stepping out as this before we go down after a game. 0:49:41.160 --> 0:49:43.440 What is the what are the fans because I've been 0:49:43.520 --> 0:49:48.200 to Philly and they getting their ass kicked boom brutal 0:49:48.760 --> 0:49:51.440 let me talking like yeah, like I remember, like you 0:49:51.560 --> 0:49:53.960 might have to pull the clip on this one. But 0:49:54.120 --> 0:49:57.759 we played Denver and it was like Joel's first match 0:49:57.840 --> 0:49:59.400 up against your kitchen. They was going like they was 0:49:59.600 --> 0:50:03.440 necking MVP right and he kicked it to me in 0:50:03.520 --> 0:50:06.880 the corner and we was down three. Jamikah Green blocks 0:50:06.960 --> 0:50:09.839 my three. I get the rebound back. We're still down three. 0:50:09.920 --> 0:50:12.080 There's like three seconds left, but I had like a 0:50:12.400 --> 0:50:13.960 I gotta just score quick, you know what I mean. 0:50:14.000 --> 0:50:16.680 I just got my ship blocked, so i'd rather than 0:50:16.760 --> 0:50:18.920 kicking it out the tyres, actually I shoot a floater. 0:50:19.520 --> 0:50:23.080 Time ends we lose. This is like doctors like what 0:50:23.239 --> 0:50:28.400 the man. I'm walking off the court, They're like, you 0:50:28.760 --> 0:50:33.799 fucking suck of that song. I'm like, damn. So I'm 0:50:34.000 --> 0:50:37.920 driving driving up, you know, because there's like a ramp 0:50:38.000 --> 0:50:42.680 to like get out and then so I'll never forget this, 0:50:42.880 --> 0:50:45.120 like people know, like your car after out there, like 0:50:45.920 --> 0:50:50.120 I don't even know why we signed your batucking like no, 0:50:50.440 --> 0:50:53.719 it's it was. It's crazy, but I can appreciate it 0:50:54.239 --> 0:50:57.200 because they actually care, you know what I mean, where 0:50:57.239 --> 0:50:59.080 it's like I wouldn't want to go to a place 0:50:59.120 --> 0:51:01.040 where it's just like you know what I mean, where 0:51:01.080 --> 0:51:03.120 I have to stay in field like every night, like 0:51:03.280 --> 0:51:05.160 you see people in there who are like it's a 0:51:05.239 --> 0:51:09.000 blue collar you know city where it's like I'm an electrician. 0:51:09.040 --> 0:51:11.200 I make eighty K year if I'm going to a game, 0:51:11.680 --> 0:51:14.640 you know, yeah, like I put a lot of my 0:51:14.760 --> 0:51:16.399 hard earned money, and it's like I want to see 0:51:16.400 --> 0:51:18.320 you play your best, you know what I mean. I 0:51:18.400 --> 0:51:22.000 can appreciate that, and it definitely makes you want to 0:51:22.040 --> 0:51:23.840 be prepared when you get out there, like you ain't 0:51:23.880 --> 0:51:26.359 going out there like I don't know if I got 0:51:26.440 --> 0:51:28.440 it tonight, not at home. At least you ain't the 0:51:28.600 --> 0:51:33.520 Philly fans stretchers, the motherfucker's blue Santa Claus I speak. 0:51:33.640 --> 0:51:35.160 You know what I'm saying. I'm I'm saved g because 0:51:35.160 --> 0:51:38.040 obviously the professionally he's a Sixers organization players right now. 0:51:38.280 --> 0:51:41.320 But Eagles fans, y'all fucking sucked. They are probably the 0:51:41.520 --> 0:51:44.239 worst fan base. I speak for me, I know he 0:51:44.360 --> 0:51:47.480 going to the crib. Oh, I'm happy they flew where 0:51:47.480 --> 0:51:50.360 they flew to right back in that cage the Eagles. 0:51:52.120 --> 0:51:54.279 What I'm hurts he's the guy. I respect that a lot. 0:51:54.320 --> 0:51:56.560 He cold, but the Eagles niggas. They don't get no 0:51:56.640 --> 0:51:59.160 player around here. But like you said, how was it once? 0:51:59.200 --> 0:52:01.239 You know, I say what you deal with Utah? Now 0:52:01.320 --> 0:52:03.160 you were Philly A little bit different of a vibe 0:52:03.200 --> 0:52:05.359 stepping out, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, I VP 0:52:05.560 --> 0:52:07.839 candidates and your team. I'm sure going out was probably 0:52:07.840 --> 0:52:09.600 a little bit more lit there it was in Utah, 0:52:11.520 --> 0:52:15.160 I would imagine. Yeah, I mean we have a good 0:52:15.200 --> 0:52:18.080 time as a team. You know, obviously New York's made 0:52:18.160 --> 0:52:20.640 up the street if anything, but Philly is uh. They 0:52:20.760 --> 0:52:24.279 definitely show love and we definitely have people on the 0:52:24.320 --> 0:52:25.920 team that you know, you know how to have a 0:52:25.960 --> 0:52:28.400 good time, that's for sure. Nothing wrong with that. Absolutely. 0:52:28.560 --> 0:52:31.120 You know, you gotta kick back, relaxing, enjoy yourself every 0:52:31.160 --> 0:52:32.640 once in a while. You can't be always up tight. 0:52:34.160 --> 0:52:40.560 You know, I'm fucking oh oh you was here with 0:52:40.719 --> 0:52:44.640 team You're a nasty nigga. J Well, the time I 0:52:44.680 --> 0:52:46.520 got talking about what was you outside here? I know 0:52:46.600 --> 0:52:48.800 you was here for a year, but it was revel 0:52:49.320 --> 0:52:53.640 Oh wow about yeah, what was uh they had with 0:52:54.520 --> 0:53:04.080 like under the bridge catileg wrench Ye, Jeffery, have you 0:53:04.640 --> 0:53:11.399 taken off too near? Oh yeah, yeah, that's a good time. 0:53:11.520 --> 0:53:16.520 I seen him in here, it'd be like it's row 0:53:16.680 --> 0:53:19.560 Hill man, it'd be a lot of mixed, mixed motherfuckers 0:53:20.000 --> 0:53:27.480 experience in any sometimes he's crazy, crazy crazy. I'm just 0:53:27.600 --> 0:53:34.399 saying there was like, okay, this motherfuck he didn't take 0:53:34.440 --> 0:53:38.560 you to the trench like it was it was it 0:53:38.680 --> 0:53:41.759 was and though yeah, tremors and all that ship was gone. 0:53:42.120 --> 0:53:44.160 Yeah you went in there, you probably he was probably 0:53:44.160 --> 0:53:48.399 in that motherfucker jumping with arms in the area. That's 0:53:48.400 --> 0:53:54.880 what you think crazy. Don't let him patient with you now. 0:53:55.000 --> 0:53:57.080 But he didn't take you know where where it was 0:53:57.200 --> 0:54:00.759 really like happening. Yeah, you ain't going a couple blocks 0:54:00.760 --> 0:54:05.239 away for long. I've been what's the place across the 0:54:05.280 --> 0:54:10.560 street that longs you went to the icon? Yeah, I'm 0:54:10.600 --> 0:54:22.400 custu man. Okay, lets the boat, baby, Okay, y'all retarded 0:54:25.440 --> 0:54:30.759 being so much trouble man. I'm just like, what's the 0:54:30.760 --> 0:54:33.600 difference between your team this year and last year? Like, 0:54:34.200 --> 0:54:36.920 I mean, I feel like I got I was I 0:54:37.040 --> 0:54:41.480 did like some radio showing on that text that yeah, 0:54:41.480 --> 0:54:44.040 you're like hilarious, but it was like the way I 0:54:44.239 --> 0:54:47.160 said it was like you have a roster, like when 0:54:47.239 --> 0:54:49.680 someone takes like a max contract, if like he was 0:54:49.719 --> 0:54:52.200 beneficial for us, like get in there and passed, like 0:54:52.320 --> 0:54:54.839 you know what I mean. So like when I'm when 0:54:54.880 --> 0:54:57.520 I signed to come there, you know, I'm thinking like, oh, 0:54:57.600 --> 0:55:00.839 this is perfect, like another big guard that can get 0:55:00.880 --> 0:55:03.440 into lane and loves to pass, Like how many more 0:55:03.520 --> 0:55:05.759 open shots am I gonna get? And then when you 0:55:06.480 --> 0:55:09.400 decide like like so the team doesn't get anything from that, 0:55:09.640 --> 0:55:12.879 I'm not playing, Like so now you gotta start from 0:55:12.960 --> 0:55:18.240 like minus thirty three million, like that's tough, and everybody 0:55:18.320 --> 0:55:21.320 knows like he wasn't just getting traded head up, you 0:55:21.400 --> 0:55:23.959 know what I mean. So now when you thinking about 0:55:24.000 --> 0:55:26.840 stuff you can't control you out there like damn, like 0:55:26.960 --> 0:55:28.560 am I playing too well? Like am I going to 0:55:28.640 --> 0:55:31.200 get attached on to him to get these as? Then 0:55:31.280 --> 0:55:34.440 you twitter the worst thing because you know you're going 0:55:34.480 --> 0:55:36.920 to Sacramento? Are you going to Detroit? Are you going 0:55:37.000 --> 0:55:39.080 to you know what I mean? You like, dang, I 0:55:39.320 --> 0:55:42.759 just got here, like like I'm just getting acclimated and 0:55:43.080 --> 0:55:46.240 then when you trade for someone you know as dynamic 0:55:46.320 --> 0:55:49.719 and prolific as James Harden, I mean, you gotta like 0:55:49.840 --> 0:55:52.080 change the way you do things because like he has 0:55:52.120 --> 0:55:55.279 to fit you know what you're doing. So we didn't 0:55:55.280 --> 0:55:58.279 have enough time to really get that rolling. I think 0:55:58.360 --> 0:56:01.240 this year we've had time him to like build chemistry 0:56:01.280 --> 0:56:02.840 and see what we like and what we can be 0:56:03.000 --> 0:56:06.759 better at. And it obviously took us a little bit, 0:56:06.800 --> 0:56:08.680 but I think you could when you'll watch, you could 0:56:08.680 --> 0:56:11.560 see glimpses of like, oh damn, like they for real. 0:56:11.719 --> 0:56:13.719 And then there's other times where you're like, all right, 0:56:13.800 --> 0:56:15.640 they still got they still got some ship to figure 0:56:15.640 --> 0:56:17.759 out before they are are really good to you. Bro 0:56:17.960 --> 0:56:24.239 ye got hurt oh Man twenty five in the first half. 0:56:26.000 --> 0:56:27.800 I think that little injury kind of setting back a 0:56:27.840 --> 0:56:30.919 little bit. Yeah, I mean I think when you play 0:56:30.960 --> 0:56:33.600 with and you have that much athleticism, when you have 0:56:33.680 --> 0:56:35.879 something like that mentally, I mean you would No, I've 0:56:35.920 --> 0:56:42.839 never I've done moved fast enough to but yeah, for sure, 0:56:42.920 --> 0:56:45.120 and then you know the adjustment of coming off the bench. 0:56:45.200 --> 0:56:48.560 But now he started, I think he's damaging like twenty eight. Yeah, 0:56:48.600 --> 0:56:50.320 I'm saying, like I know, y'all went through like that 0:56:50.400 --> 0:56:52.640 little moment. Oh, ye got hurt the first time we 0:56:52.880 --> 0:56:55.600 got hurt and it was like damn because James was 0:56:55.680 --> 0:56:58.960 out too. Yeah James, And was it Joel for a 0:56:59.040 --> 0:57:01.399 little bit too with his knee or something. Yeah, we were, 0:57:01.960 --> 0:57:04.480 we was fighting. I remember we was doing Charlotte and 0:57:05.080 --> 0:57:06.920 lost to them, So that was damn. Shout out to 0:57:07.000 --> 0:57:09.879 Charlotte Hornets. I can't wait till y'all geme, like y'all 0:57:09.880 --> 0:57:13.600 start to get everybody. Yeah, yeah, how you like playing 0:57:13.600 --> 0:57:17.640 with my dog? PJ? Shout out to PJ. PJ Tucker Man, 0:57:18.080 --> 0:57:21.600 he's got to be top top three, top top two 0:57:21.680 --> 0:57:26.320 teammates of all time, like just a if you go 0:57:26.400 --> 0:57:29.280 on a ward, you want that guy on your team 0:57:29.560 --> 0:57:32.160 and he won the best dude, one of the best. 0:57:32.920 --> 0:57:36.440 Super shout out to PJ man. You already know super 0:57:36.480 --> 0:57:41.000 cool you Yeah, Like he's like the prototype of your game. 0:57:42.760 --> 0:57:44.800 Like when you look at a player, you'd be like, Okay, 0:57:44.960 --> 0:57:47.480 can he be PJ Tucker? Yeah, And that's what you're 0:57:47.480 --> 0:57:49.520 probably not for sure. Well before that, it was like 0:57:49.640 --> 0:57:53.040 Jared Dudley, Yeah, you know what I mean. Yeah, he 0:57:53.160 --> 0:57:58.880 had a long PJ play. What's his like eight, it 0:57:59.040 --> 0:58:02.680 was like sixteen sevent. Yeah, now you're doing it right. 0:58:03.000 --> 0:58:05.040 And that's the far thing, you say, like to see 0:58:05.120 --> 0:58:07.840 somebody create an avenue and see somebody flourishing. It's just 0:58:07.960 --> 0:58:10.280 like I can keep doing this another ten years because 0:58:10.320 --> 0:58:12.680 what I do is still important, right. No, I think 0:58:12.720 --> 0:58:15.200 the coolest part is like I think as an og 0:58:15.480 --> 0:58:17.520 like he sees people are coming up in his shoes 0:58:17.560 --> 0:58:19.800 and the like, you know kind of school you to 0:58:19.920 --> 0:58:22.880 the game. And I know this is year seven for me, 0:58:23.040 --> 0:58:24.880 but I still have a lot to learn in the fact, 0:58:24.920 --> 0:58:26.960 you know, he's won a championship, he's been to the 0:58:27.000 --> 0:58:30.160 Mountain tips, so you know, telling me on how to 0:58:30.520 --> 0:58:33.320 prepare for certain games or what to do leading up 0:58:33.360 --> 0:58:37.960 to the playoffs. He's huge. He's a huge contributor on 0:58:38.080 --> 0:58:44.120 our team. So pause, I'm about to go. I was 0:58:44.160 --> 0:58:46.800 about to be like, see you will of to day. 0:58:46.840 --> 0:58:49.400 I don't know what we're immature over here. We're not 0:58:49.440 --> 0:58:54.600 gonna go about like you gotta be his teammate to 0:58:54.680 --> 0:58:59.400 realize how many fucking shoes. No, even then, you have no, 0:58:59.720 --> 0:59:04.120 you have no like here I thought it was bad. 0:59:04.360 --> 0:59:07.680 Like so he has his locker in the pax facility, 0:59:07.720 --> 0:59:10.360 and then he has like a whole area gotta be 0:59:10.440 --> 0:59:13.160 like ten by ten with like shoes like on shoes 0:59:13.240 --> 0:59:16.840 like this, but a whole lockers feel. Then you got 0:59:16.880 --> 0:59:19.440 the locker room at the arena that got like a 0:59:19.480 --> 0:59:22.720 whole other locker with just like the boxes of like 0:59:23.600 --> 0:59:25.960 some more shoes. And then he got like a whole 0:59:26.040 --> 0:59:28.320 like thinking about them laundry buckets he got them and 0:59:28.440 --> 0:59:31.800 just shoes like whatever. And then there's the back equipment room. 0:59:32.440 --> 0:59:34.439 It's crazy. People have told me he has like a house. 0:59:34.480 --> 0:59:35.800 Whenever you bring it up to him, he'd be like, 0:59:37.120 --> 0:59:41.000 I'm been there, it's crazy. He'd be like these ones. 0:59:41.800 --> 0:59:43.680 I got these ones like twelve years ago. I might 0:59:43.720 --> 0:59:47.720 wear it every night. I'm gonna wear He switched his 0:59:47.760 --> 0:59:51.040 shoes like four or five times. He has like two, 0:59:51.920 --> 0:59:55.000 you know the sixteen shoes back. He got like two 0:59:55.040 --> 0:59:59.000 of those on the road. He don't play. You gotta 0:59:59.080 --> 1:00:01.360 like be his teammate, realize that shit. Yeah, they didn't 1:00:01.400 --> 1:00:02.960 explain it to people. They people be looking at me 1:00:03.040 --> 1:00:04.560 like I'm crazy when I tell the story, like this 1:00:04.680 --> 1:00:08.200 nigga got shoes and you got kicks. And the crazy 1:00:08.240 --> 1:00:10.000 part is this dude got kicks and will wear the 1:00:10.080 --> 1:00:12.800 same shoes the whole year. Oh, I know them saying 1:00:12.840 --> 1:00:16.400 black kobes he wore was sponsored by Adas. Put black 1:00:16.440 --> 1:00:20.800 tape over the white. Tell the story reason I got 1:00:20.840 --> 1:00:24.320 in trouble. Tell us Butler got me in trouble. Damn 1:00:24.680 --> 1:00:27.080 what shit I was wearing? I was sponsored by Adidas, 1:00:27.120 --> 1:00:29.880 and I put on some kobes, put tape all around them, 1:00:30.080 --> 1:00:33.360 black it out. So and we're the same ones all 1:00:33.440 --> 1:00:39.320 year hot? How how you do? I don't know, man, 1:00:39.440 --> 1:00:41.680 probably like every three games. But you know I got 1:00:41.760 --> 1:00:44.520 more weight, you know what I mean. It's some black 1:00:44.600 --> 1:00:52.760 me forces tray on the tire. Come on, you already 1:00:52.840 --> 1:00:55.920 wearing the low cut socks, the no show socks. So 1:00:56.040 --> 1:00:59.280 you try to get him in the black mins looks. 1:01:00.520 --> 1:01:05.560 I can't read. I can't. You'll never wear those shows, 1:01:06.440 --> 1:01:12.480 act because I get it. Tell us somebody black man 1:01:12.720 --> 1:01:15.920 is crazy. I'm just saying, if somebody's wearing some low 1:01:16.080 --> 1:01:18.600 top air forces, I am not going near them. They're 1:01:18.600 --> 1:01:20.480 ready to rumble, you know what I mean. And that's 1:01:20.520 --> 1:01:23.120 like your boys you're talking about. Hoop and air Max 1:01:23.240 --> 1:01:31.280 nineties was insane. I don't know. Anless made it so 1:01:31.360 --> 1:01:35.120 much but I respect I respect it. But yeah, he 1:01:35.240 --> 1:01:37.680 told me because he got beat by the cops. Yeah, 1:01:37.880 --> 1:01:39.440 so it's like it's the only shoe that felt good 1:01:39.480 --> 1:01:41.800 on his ankle, you know, yeah, crazy ankle was crazy. 1:01:41.960 --> 1:01:45.919 Oh yeah, that's about that. Damn. I mean, I guess 1:01:45.960 --> 1:01:47.560 I'll walk that back. But I just thought he would 1:01:47.560 --> 1:01:50.200 just own that, like the no I used to hooping 1:01:50.320 --> 1:01:52.680 like Katie's Kobies, And he was like, man, he's the 1:01:52.720 --> 1:01:56.320 only shoes my ankle could fit in. N if you 1:01:56.400 --> 1:01:58.680 seen walk towards you with a max, that's damn like 1:01:58.760 --> 1:02:00.560 the Black Forces, he gonna ask for a change. You're 1:02:00.560 --> 1:02:02.080 trying to up the blakey on you. But either way, 1:02:02.160 --> 1:02:03.640 you don't want the answer to what he about to 1:02:03.640 --> 1:02:07.800 ask you, what shoes do you hooping? Know me, we're 1:02:07.840 --> 1:02:09.880 working at the sketchule. We're gonna get after this podcast. 1:02:10.400 --> 1:02:15.040 You see right now hooping the honestes last year, I 1:02:15.080 --> 1:02:17.520 hooping some pgs. I usually just find I have Nike 1:02:17.680 --> 1:02:20.720 has like four or five shoes. I find one that fits, 1:02:20.760 --> 1:02:22.920 and I'll get him in all the color of the 1:02:23.040 --> 1:02:26.160 jersey and then that's it. You're rocking the b shoes. 1:02:26.240 --> 1:02:29.640 He ain't plugging with the US. I don't do the 1:02:29.920 --> 1:02:34.160 a's Like he said the same shoe for three years, 1:02:35.120 --> 1:02:39.160 that you can't really rock a big man shoe because 1:02:39.240 --> 1:02:43.080 them look like school busters. And I love and I 1:02:43.200 --> 1:02:47.960 love my dog Joel, but yeah, some shoes are respect it. 1:02:48.000 --> 1:02:49.320 But that's how I felt about you'all a couple of 1:02:49.400 --> 1:02:51.160 years ago, y'all trying to bring the ewings back. Y'all 1:02:51.240 --> 1:02:53.640 was on the fucking pocket. I hated that notion. When 1:02:53.640 --> 1:02:57.200 I see everybody words a bunch of you, Jeff, you 1:02:57.280 --> 1:02:58.880 got hit though, so I'm gonna let you out a 1:02:58.960 --> 1:03:05.400 bunch of every he slept on. He was't bad man, 1:03:06.040 --> 1:03:10.920 stop it. What's better? Barkley's Barkley talk about it easily? 1:03:11.440 --> 1:03:13.400 Who even as a big man who got a cold 1:03:13.440 --> 1:03:16.160 shoe like always personally, canna think of that's cold at 1:03:16.200 --> 1:03:17.880 that time period that you would have warred with Shot. 1:03:18.200 --> 1:03:21.320 I can't think of no other bit. I'm talking about 1:03:21.320 --> 1:03:26.000 Senders though, Blue was crazy Mexic Seations, one of the 1:03:26.040 --> 1:03:29.680 fire shoes ever. And Barkley's like right below Pindy as 1:03:29.720 --> 1:03:31.680 far as like signature wise, niggas don't talk about it. 1:03:31.880 --> 1:03:35.520 Barkley had that fire. Yeah, but damn not not the 1:03:35.640 --> 1:03:37.400 Joel said, you got hardened too. He ain't gon swing 1:03:37.480 --> 1:03:42.120 the Mate show love man, he got some cold shoes. Yeah, 1:03:42.160 --> 1:03:46.800 you gotta switch pre fifteen sixteen. He's fourteen. Damn, that's 1:03:46.840 --> 1:03:50.160 how he'd be getting on bron Semples. You gotta take 1:03:50.240 --> 1:03:54.200 some of his You got it you cold? That was 1:03:54.240 --> 1:04:02.160 a crazy This guy's the worst. You get immature, Nah 1:04:02.800 --> 1:04:07.560 what you usually leave them? And he's still here. I 1:04:07.640 --> 1:04:10.120 mean he got him outside his lock. I'm applying. Okay, 1:04:11.280 --> 1:04:14.400 let me slide. I ain't even wearing fourteen, but I 1:04:14.520 --> 1:04:17.120 got a couple of the pe Kobe Jeffer west Side 1:04:17.160 --> 1:04:21.520 Nigga through. I appreciate he's throwing them out, man, go ahead, slide. 1:04:22.800 --> 1:04:24.160 All right. Now, we're about to put you on the clock. 1:04:24.280 --> 1:04:25.720 You know s. We're gonna ask you a couple of questions. 1:04:25.760 --> 1:04:27.200 You don't gotta spit too long. I don't know. I'm 1:04:27.240 --> 1:04:28.440 saying this tells how you feel. We're gonna do a 1:04:28.520 --> 1:04:30.520 top five first off, we're gonna talk start off with 1:04:30.760 --> 1:04:35.320 top five your favorite players, oh of all time? Yeah, 1:04:35.320 --> 1:04:36.680 you ain't gotta put him in order, but what are 1:04:36.680 --> 1:04:41.040 you fucking with? I definitely gotta go with Michael Jordans. 1:04:41.480 --> 1:04:47.600 That's your top absolutely I respect Yeah. Uh, Kobe Braun 1:04:50.320 --> 1:04:53.040 Uh since me in Indiana and Larry Bird. Oh, you 1:04:53.080 --> 1:05:00.560 don't gotta do that. I'm at four right and uh Curry, 1:05:01.080 --> 1:05:04.400 I'm sorry Katie. Katie would be in there if I 1:05:04.480 --> 1:05:06.560 didn't have Larry burning there. But I grew up in Boston, 1:05:06.720 --> 1:05:09.640 so damn you had thirty. He drafted me to Indiana, 1:05:09.760 --> 1:05:11.920 so you know he got a special places. Yeah, I 1:05:12.080 --> 1:05:15.400 respect that. Like, what do you what are you frustrated about? 1:05:15.440 --> 1:05:21.800 You just grunted puffing over there needs some extra oxygen. 1:05:21.920 --> 1:05:26.120 Come on, go ahead. He don't respect any other players. 1:05:26.200 --> 1:05:29.800 You don't like the pacers. He's a Larry Bird. Yes, 1:05:30.480 --> 1:05:38.440 it's time to put we can't record on Sundays on 1:05:38.440 --> 1:05:43.040 the board greatly be to be depleted. All right. So 1:05:43.120 --> 1:05:45.120 that's your top five for players, all right? And I 1:05:45.160 --> 1:05:47.080 got top five cities. What's your top five cities? You 1:05:47.080 --> 1:05:49.160 don't been around the NBA? Where's your top five places 1:05:49.160 --> 1:05:51.160 to go out at night? No? I know how to 1:05:51.240 --> 1:05:52.800 road trips will, but ain't got getting into the tail. 1:05:52.840 --> 1:05:55.840 But you know what I'm saying. Toronto is one facts, 1:05:57.040 --> 1:06:04.440 Miami is two facts. Uh, just this don't go on anywhere. 1:06:04.520 --> 1:06:10.040 These three off New York, LA, Phoenix. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 1:06:10.200 --> 1:06:13.880 he got a nice top. So I'm gonna throw Atlanta 1:06:13.960 --> 1:06:17.480 in there from me. Yeah, product placement. Yeah. I haven't 1:06:17.520 --> 1:06:21.240 been able to really, you know, experience Atlanta, you know, thoroughly, 1:06:21.400 --> 1:06:23.640 because you know, we've either been on the back to back, 1:06:23.680 --> 1:06:26.560 we haven't really had like three four days in Atlanta, 1:06:26.680 --> 1:06:28.760 but I've heard a great things. Y'all be shitty, we'll 1:06:28.760 --> 1:06:30.360 be having no fire as cities and on the back 1:06:30.360 --> 1:06:36.080 to back. Hey play in Minnesota, and we used to 1:06:36.200 --> 1:06:42.400 leave fucking Atlanta so fast I can imagine, because like 1:06:42.680 --> 1:06:44.800 I know, y'all probably can't st talking to too much. 1:06:44.840 --> 1:06:47.000 But can y'all take a letter fly like fron the Palm, 1:06:47.440 --> 1:06:50.160 Like I know, you travel the same, paying nothing when 1:06:50.200 --> 1:06:52.920 you ride free like that, you know, pay for a 1:06:53.040 --> 1:06:55.200 charter when you already got a charter. No way to 1:06:55.320 --> 1:06:58.280 make no sense. But there are some people who do 1:06:59.080 --> 1:07:05.760 shout they checked different. We don't know who that is. 1:07:06.280 --> 1:07:08.720 Check different, all right, So you know what I say. 1:07:08.800 --> 1:07:10.480 So we ain't gonna talk about what I'm saying in 1:07:10.480 --> 1:07:12.520 the off season, but you know we're coming to mind 1:07:12.560 --> 1:07:13.920 as far as what you might do, what you think 1:07:13.960 --> 1:07:16.560 about doing it. You can moving on this too. How 1:07:16.760 --> 1:07:18.360 is it when you like thinking like all right, cool, 1:07:18.480 --> 1:07:20.280 I might want to fuck with this, or I'm looking 1:07:20.280 --> 1:07:22.400 throughout the season like this look cool, like I wonder 1:07:22.440 --> 1:07:24.200 how I feel with this? Now it's more open. You 1:07:24.280 --> 1:07:26.360 got boys, like you said back then you had to 1:07:26.440 --> 1:07:27.960 just deal whatever the fun they said. Now you'll can 1:07:28.000 --> 1:07:29.920 get on the Twitter, but like fuck with this or 1:07:29.960 --> 1:07:32.160 he going crazy over here? Is that looked upon of 1:07:32.200 --> 1:07:33.760 your decision where you're kind of thinking about what you 1:07:33.880 --> 1:07:35.680 might do, or just like I'm just gonna keep in 1:07:35.720 --> 1:07:37.040 the back of my head just in case it becomes 1:07:37.080 --> 1:07:39.960 relevant because a lot of fans on nowhere is talkers 1:07:39.960 --> 1:07:41.640 all the time. Obviously no tampering and ship, but you 1:07:41.720 --> 1:07:43.840 know your agents do that shit for you, Like we're 1:07:43.920 --> 1:07:45.960 joining teams, not even join the team, Like you know, 1:07:46.280 --> 1:07:48.520 I wouldn't be mad at this, like nothing to a criminate, 1:07:48.600 --> 1:07:50.080 but just like look at situations like that might be 1:07:50.160 --> 1:07:52.360 cool type shit. But yeah, yeah, I mean I think 1:07:52.480 --> 1:07:55.640 everybody had human Yeah, I mean like you always got 1:07:55.720 --> 1:08:01.280 your own opinion. I mean, for the polically correct crowd, 1:08:01.360 --> 1:08:04.000 I think you should not tweet that I'll keep the 1:08:04.240 --> 1:08:07.400 thoughts to yourself. Yeah, don't be stupid. Yeah, but you know, 1:08:07.520 --> 1:08:10.520 I think they're guys talk over the summer, what they 1:08:10.840 --> 1:08:13.000 what they want to do. I'm sure there's some recruiting 1:08:13.080 --> 1:08:15.040 going on right now. We'll just have to wait and 1:08:15.120 --> 1:08:18.240 see what, you know, two years from now happens. Yes, sir, 1:08:18.400 --> 1:08:20.280 I'm sure there'll be some crazy stuff going on. I 1:08:20.360 --> 1:08:22.320 just hate the bullshit they'd be like, look, y'all, just 1:08:22.439 --> 1:08:25.840 because athletes make good money compared to most people, it's 1:08:25.840 --> 1:08:28.360 still a job. If I'm about to transfer a job. 1:08:28.520 --> 1:08:30.439 Who over there, what's got going on? What's your PTO? Like, 1:08:30.560 --> 1:08:33.360 y'all boss school, they fucking with you. Everybody does that. 1:08:33.640 --> 1:08:35.280 It's just now that's just like, hey, we can do 1:08:35.360 --> 1:08:36.880 this too. Quit trying to put us in the box 1:08:36.960 --> 1:08:39.360 like we weird, Like this is literally our job. Facts. 1:08:40.160 --> 1:08:41.600 I see, I got a question for you know what 1:08:41.640 --> 1:08:45.439 I'm saying, since as far as his your directory wise, 1:08:45.640 --> 1:08:47.120 what do you think is the next step of his game? 1:08:47.160 --> 1:08:52.080 But you see going crazy for him, don't people? Boys? Yeah, 1:08:52.160 --> 1:08:57.240 he never gonna do I under ten? How mean being 1:08:57.280 --> 1:08:59.360 on the other side of the spectrum now, like being 1:08:59.400 --> 1:09:02.920 a player now working in the office. G is one 1:09:02.920 --> 1:09:05.080 of those guys that you you spot out like, man, 1:09:05.120 --> 1:09:06.720 he can help our team be a better player, a 1:09:06.800 --> 1:09:09.200 better team, a better ball club because he does the 1:09:09.280 --> 1:09:12.160 little things. Obviously you can shoot the ball, so he 1:09:12.360 --> 1:09:14.400 knows what he has to do. You just gotta perfect 1:09:14.439 --> 1:09:17.360 those I always tell people, do what you do best. 1:09:17.640 --> 1:09:19.639 Don't start trying to do shit like trying to dunk 1:09:19.680 --> 1:09:22.920 on niggas. Shit. But you keep hitting up quarter three, 1:09:23.479 --> 1:09:28.200 you're gonna walk away. Yeah, well will pay man, that's 1:09:28.240 --> 1:09:30.160 hard man, get to Brits boring all to a go off. 1:09:30.240 --> 1:09:32.200 That's a lot of people say, like I mean, being 1:09:32.240 --> 1:09:33.600 the start. Obviously it is a cool thing. But if you, 1:09:33.680 --> 1:09:36.040 like you said, your situation, you came in, regrind and 1:09:36.080 --> 1:09:38.000 rebuilt yourself to the point to where now you're gonna 1:09:38.000 --> 1:09:39.840 have to you know what I'm saying, longevity the league. 1:09:40.200 --> 1:09:42.400 You're doing everything you want to do the right way 1:09:42.520 --> 1:09:43.920 and as far as fun to me, because a lot 1:09:43.960 --> 1:09:45.880 of people be in situations they still like you said, 1:09:45.920 --> 1:09:48.200 you're a seven, shit, you're eight. They might have to 1:09:48.240 --> 1:09:50.360 figure some shit out in the whole situation. Now you're 1:09:50.360 --> 1:09:53.519 in a situation your team contended. It's lit And before 1:09:53.560 --> 1:09:55.200 we get out of here, how is it playing for Doc? 1:09:55.400 --> 1:09:57.800 I always wonder how they's playing for Doc Rivers. Yeah, nah, 1:09:57.880 --> 1:10:00.880 Doc is you know, he's a motivator man. I mean, obviously, 1:10:00.960 --> 1:10:04.360 he's one of the best coaches to ever you know, coach, 1:10:05.360 --> 1:10:07.599 and he does a great job of just motivating this group. 1:10:07.680 --> 1:10:10.200 And he's he's had so much experience, so he's pretty 1:10:10.280 --> 1:10:14.640 much seen everything you know in the game. So the 1:10:14.760 --> 1:10:16.960 fact that you know, I've been able to play unto 1:10:17.040 --> 1:10:19.919 him for two years has been a super great experience 1:10:19.960 --> 1:10:22.160 for me and it's allowed me to grow as a player. 1:10:22.200 --> 1:10:23.760 But I think the coolest part is he actually is 1:10:23.800 --> 1:10:27.840 still like confidence where some coaches wouldn't do that. He's 1:10:28.280 --> 1:10:30.599 that's important and it don't matter about excess and those 1:10:30.640 --> 1:10:33.640 you gonna go out there and motivated like he's he 1:10:33.800 --> 1:10:38.320 got some of the best pregame, halftime post games, which 1:10:38.360 --> 1:10:40.519 is where you're like, all right, like I run through 1:10:40.560 --> 1:10:42.479 a wall for this dude. He used to be in 1:10:42.560 --> 1:10:44.600 my heads. I'll still hate on Doc Rivers a little bit, 1:10:45.000 --> 1:10:47.360 but it's only because I hate that Boston team won championship. 1:10:47.360 --> 1:10:49.120 It's really not on Doc. It's just I hate that 1:10:49.200 --> 1:10:51.840 team as a whole, Like I love Rondol's one of 1:10:51.840 --> 1:10:56.160 my favorite players, but that team I hate that. Yeah. 1:10:56.240 --> 1:10:58.639 KG was cold, right, Alan was cold with part persons 1:10:58.680 --> 1:11:01.680 cold but together. I hated them. I hated them and 1:11:01.760 --> 1:11:03.639 I hate when I'll be hearing them talking to I'm like, man, 1:11:03.800 --> 1:11:06.080 all right, y'all gotta chip man, but y'all gotta input 1:11:06.120 --> 1:11:08.880 on everything. It's always always Celtic with the input on 1:11:08.960 --> 1:11:10.800 everything on social media. I'm like, yo, y'all can cut 1:11:10.840 --> 1:11:12.720 that shit out, man, because that okay, be here. I 1:11:12.760 --> 1:11:14.639 can't hit on Doc Rivers where I gotta let a slot. 1:11:14.880 --> 1:11:21.800 I mean, you just spoke highly. I ain't talking about Doc. 1:11:21.840 --> 1:11:23.840 I'm just saying, ok I gotta let the hate go. 1:11:24.280 --> 1:11:27.280 I'm here you grow baby whatever you won't. But just 1:11:27.479 --> 1:11:31.920 know this is a fucking current player. He's saying great 1:11:32.000 --> 1:11:35.439 things about Doc. With that, that means I gotta keep 1:11:35.479 --> 1:11:37.639 the smugg going by myself. Then fuck it, I'll take 1:11:37.680 --> 1:11:39.640 it off. But hey, we're about to get out of here. 1:11:39.680 --> 1:11:42.800 G appreciate you, my boy man. Check my boy out. 1:11:42.840 --> 1:11:44.719 You know where the fund him at the Philadelphia Players 1:11:44.760 --> 1:11:46.760 on from top t in the corner. Find him in 1:11:46.840 --> 1:11:48.400 the corner shout out to the minivan