Trump Dominates Iowa; Highlights of Davos

Bloomberg Daybreak: US Edition

On today's podcast:

1) Donald Trump tightened his grip on the Republican presidential nomination after Iowa voters delivered him a victory in Monday’s caucuses and moved him one step closer to returning to the White House.

2) Microsoft Corp. Chief Executive Officer Satya Nadella said while he wants consistency and good governance at partner OpenAI, he’s not worried about the company’s nonprofit structure and doesn’t want greater control over his partner.

3) Slashed earnings estimates are creating the optimal platform for US companies to beat expectations this earnings season, according to Morgan Stanley’s Michael Wilson.

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Good morning. 0:00:03.080 --> 0:00:05.920 I'm Nathan Hager and I'm Karen Moscow. Here are the 0:00:05.960 --> 0:00:07.440 stories we're following today. 0:00:08.200 --> 0:00:11.719 We begin in Iowa, where Donald Trump has cruised to 0:00:11.840 --> 0:00:15.040 victory in the first in the nation Republican Caucasus. Now 0:00:15.160 --> 0:00:18.319 the former president is calling on his rivals to drop out. 0:00:18.640 --> 0:00:21.680 And I really think this is time now for everybody 0:00:22.320 --> 0:00:24.720 our country to come together. We want to come together, 0:00:25.760 --> 0:00:29.400 whether it's Republican or a Democrat, or a liberal or conservative. 0:00:29.440 --> 0:00:32.320 It would be so nice if we could come together 0:00:32.479 --> 0:00:35.360 and straighten out the world, and straighten out the problems, 0:00:35.400 --> 0:00:37.960 and straighten out all of the death and destruction that 0:00:38.000 --> 0:00:38.840 we're witnessing. 0:00:39.400 --> 0:00:42.120 The former president won the Hawkeye state with fifty one 0:00:42.200 --> 0:00:45.239 percent of the vote. Florida Governor Ron DeSantis came in 0:00:45.280 --> 0:00:48.159 a distant second with twenty one point three percent. That's 0:00:48.200 --> 0:00:50.680 after Poul suggested he had dropped a third place before 0:00:50.720 --> 0:00:51.360 caucus night. 0:00:51.760 --> 0:00:54.400 In spite of all of that that they threw out us, 0:00:54.840 --> 0:00:59.320 everyone against us, we've got our ticket punched out of Iowa. 0:01:00.080 --> 0:01:02.920 Governor DeSantis came in just ahead of Nicky Haley with 0:01:03.080 --> 0:01:06.360 nineteen point one percent of the vote. Entrepreneur Vivik Graham 0:01:06.360 --> 0:01:09.280 Oswami dropped out of the race and endorse Trump after 0:01:09.400 --> 0:01:11.360 finishing fourth well Nathan. 0:01:11.400 --> 0:01:14.720 The resounding victory sets up the former president very well. 0:01:14.720 --> 0:01:18.759 Bloomberg Politics contributor Rick Davis explains how the nomination race 0:01:18.760 --> 0:01:20.840 could now unfold for Donald Trump. 0:01:21.240 --> 0:01:24.160 If Trump does run the table and gets both Iowa 0:01:24.240 --> 0:01:28.120 New Hampshire a really unusual thing, then he's got four 0:01:28.760 --> 0:01:32.160 weeks to consolidate his hold on South Carolina. And we've 0:01:32.200 --> 0:01:35.399 seen early polling the campaign hasn't gotten to South Carolina yet, 0:01:35.680 --> 0:01:39.000 so it's not reflective of a real campaign. But right 0:01:39.040 --> 0:01:42.480 now he's twenty points ahead of Nicki Haley, who calls 0:01:42.480 --> 0:01:45.040 it home. So and then after that, the really next 0:01:45.080 --> 0:01:48.880 big thing is Super Tuesday, So he could actually walk 0:01:48.920 --> 0:01:52.040 into Super Tuesday basically unchallenged at that point. 0:01:52.320 --> 0:01:55.840 And Bloomberg Politics contributor Rick Davis says a Trump presidential 0:01:55.960 --> 0:01:59.680 victory could result in sweeping changes for US policies on trade, 0:01:59.720 --> 0:02:02.919 over sees, conflicts, taxes, and civil rights. 0:02:03.280 --> 0:02:05.640 Karen Donald Trump's victory will be the talk of the town. 0:02:05.680 --> 0:02:08.920 At the World Economic Forum in Davos today, President Biden 0:02:09.000 --> 0:02:12.720 is once again skipping the event. Microsoft CEO Satia Nadella 0:02:12.840 --> 0:02:15.120 is in Davos. He talked to us about the importance 0:02:15.160 --> 0:02:16.360 of election integrity. 0:02:16.680 --> 0:02:20.720 Misinformation and election interference is going to be a real 0:02:20.840 --> 0:02:24.200 challenge that we all have to tackle. Me as a 0:02:24.280 --> 0:02:26.560 company have to do our best work right whether in 0:02:26.560 --> 0:02:29.800 the context of AI. We have lots of initiatives around 0:02:29.800 --> 0:02:32.760 content IDs and other things that will then help us. 0:02:32.960 --> 0:02:35.760 On a separate note, Microsoft CEO Satia Nodella said he 0:02:35.800 --> 0:02:38.680 wants good governance and steadiness at OpenAI, but he says 0:02:38.680 --> 0:02:42.040 he's not worried about the company's nonprofit structure and doesn't 0:02:42.080 --> 0:02:44.720 want greater control over his partner Well. 0:02:44.680 --> 0:02:47.240 Nathan out to the latest developments in the Middle East, 0:02:47.240 --> 0:02:49.880 around has attacked what it's said was an Israeli spy 0:02:50.000 --> 0:02:52.760 base in a rock with missiles. If true, it would 0:02:52.800 --> 0:02:55.720 be the first direct strike on Israeli interest since this 0:02:55.800 --> 0:02:58.840 started the war in Gaza, and a move that escalates 0:02:58.840 --> 0:03:02.600 the regent's conflicts. Israel is not commented and rarely does 0:03:02.720 --> 0:03:04.560 with such incidents and. 0:03:04.440 --> 0:03:07.360 Who the militants have attacked a US owned containership in 0:03:07.400 --> 0:03:09.280 the Red Sea Karen. That vessel was hit by a 0:03:09.320 --> 0:03:12.640 ballistic missile but avoided significant damage or injuries to the crew. 0:03:13.000 --> 0:03:15.800 This latest attack in the Red Sea comes after American 0:03:15.840 --> 0:03:18.040 and British forces bonded the hoof He's in an effort 0:03:18.040 --> 0:03:19.960 to deter them from disrupting global shipping. 0:03:20.520 --> 0:03:23.800 Well to Wall Street Now and Nathan Bank earnings kickoff 0:03:23.880 --> 0:03:27.120 this holiday shortened trading week with Goldman Sachs and Morgan 0:03:27.240 --> 0:03:31.480 Stanley reporting before the opening bell. Bloomberg Intelligence Senior analyst 0:03:31.520 --> 0:03:34.320 Alison Williams says she'll be watching how the trading desks 0:03:34.360 --> 0:03:35.800 performed in the fourth quarter. 0:03:36.160 --> 0:03:39.680 Morgan Stanley and Goldman Sachs are the two top players 0:03:39.720 --> 0:03:44.520 in that business. Goldman was the leader, Morgan Stanley sort 0:03:44.520 --> 0:03:47.240 of took that position for several years, but now Goldman 0:03:47.320 --> 0:03:49.800 Sachs is sort of back in the lead, and so 0:03:49.840 --> 0:03:52.920 I think that's that's something that investors are watching for, 0:03:53.320 --> 0:03:55.760 you know, more of the interest of bragging rights because 0:03:55.800 --> 0:03:58.960 as the top two players, they are profitable in those businesses. 0:03:59.280 --> 0:04:02.600 And Bloomberg and Eligence senior analyst Allison Williams says investment 0:04:02.640 --> 0:04:04.920 banking fees and the outlook for a twenty twenty four 0:04:04.960 --> 0:04:07.280 recovery will be a focus for these banks. 0:04:07.640 --> 0:04:11.080 Hearin retirement savers are putting more money into stocks. That's 0:04:11.120 --> 0:04:13.400 among the findings of a new Bloomberg survey, and we 0:04:13.440 --> 0:04:16.360 get more in this report from Bloomberg's John Tucker, John. 0:04:16.279 --> 0:04:19.839 And Nathan latest Bloomberg Marcus Live Pulse survey finds almost 0:04:19.880 --> 0:04:22.680 half the respondents that they were putting more funds into stocks. 0:04:23.040 --> 0:04:26.240 It's a response to rising prices. Real estate and commodities 0:04:26.240 --> 0:04:29.080 are among the other choices, but shares of companies whose 0:04:29.120 --> 0:04:31.839 earnings are expended to rise with prices were clearly the 0:04:31.960 --> 0:04:36.200 preferred option. Now, this potentially offers a long term tailwind 0:04:36.279 --> 0:04:40.000 for stocks as societies get older. Now, this doesn't necessarily 0:04:40.000 --> 0:04:42.800 make stocks the right choice to counter inflation. You'll remember 0:04:42.800 --> 0:04:45.520 in the inflation are in nineteen seventies, stocks were the 0:04:45.720 --> 0:04:49.880 worst performing acid in real terms. I'm John Tucker, Bloomberg Radio. 0:04:50.320 --> 0:04:52.840 All right, John, thanks well. In company news, Apple as 0:04:52.839 --> 0:04:55.440 we're moving up blood oxygen feature from its latest smart 0:04:55.480 --> 0:04:57.880 watches to get around a US band stemming from a 0:04:57.880 --> 0:05:01.640 pen dispute with the Massimo had ruled in October that 0:05:01.680 --> 0:05:05.960 Apple's devices violated Massimo patents related to blood oxygen measurement 0:05:06.240 --> 0:05:08.640 that led Apple to pause sales with the smart watches. 0:05:08.680 --> 0:05:11.120 Just ahead of Christmas, though an interim stay allow the 0:05:11.120 --> 0:05:13.520 company to bring the products back late last month. 0:05:13.720 --> 0:05:17.279 And Elon Musk says he is uncomfortable growing Tesla's AI 0:05:17.400 --> 0:05:20.640 capacity without a larger share of voting control. The automaker's 0:05:20.680 --> 0:05:23.280 currently investing more than a billion dollars into its Dojo 0:05:23.400 --> 0:05:27.320 supercomputer product and working to develop humanoid robots, but in 0:05:27.360 --> 0:05:30.200 a post on his social platform x, Musk said without 0:05:30.200 --> 0:05:33.280 twenty five percent of voting control in Tesla, he'd prefer 0:05:33.320 --> 0:05:34.880 to develop products independently. 0:05:35.520 --> 0:05:38.760 And Nathan Microsoft is opening up its artificial intelligence assistant 0:05:38.800 --> 0:05:42.600 to consumers and making the corporate aversion available to smaller companies. 0:05:42.640 --> 0:05:44.360 It's all part of an effort to increase the number 0:05:44.400 --> 0:05:47.760 of paying customers for the new services. Microsoft is selling 0:05:47.800 --> 0:05:51.000 a twenty dollars a month consumer version of Copilot with 0:05:51.080 --> 0:05:54.800 access to open AI's latest chat, GPT technology, and image 0:05:54.880 --> 0:06:00.840 creation features. If a look at some of the other 0:06:00.920 --> 0:06:03.080 stories making news around the world. For that, we're joined 0:06:03.120 --> 0:06:05.599 by Bloomberg's Amy Moore's Amy Good Morning. 0:06:05.640 --> 0:06:08.320 Good Morning, Karen. Most of the East Coast now has 0:06:08.400 --> 0:06:11.960 been without snow for a couple of years until now. 0:06:12.120 --> 0:06:15.920 The Midwest also dealing with some dangerously cold temperatures. Let's 0:06:15.920 --> 0:06:18.360 get more from Bloomberg meteorologist Rob Carolyn. 0:06:18.400 --> 0:06:20.800 Week area of low pressure bringing some snow to areas 0:06:20.800 --> 0:06:22.480 that haven't really seen a whole lot of snow over 0:06:22.480 --> 0:06:25.040 the last two years. We're having some snow this morning 0:06:25.080 --> 0:06:26.960 in the Baltimore area, but it'll be ending the New 0:06:27.040 --> 0:06:29.080 York City area. We'll see the light snow end by 0:06:29.160 --> 0:06:32.320 early afternoon, and Boston light snow will continue throughout the 0:06:32.400 --> 0:06:34.920 day and and during the evening. Looks like the Boston 0:06:34.920 --> 0:06:36.880 area picks up an inch or two before it mixes 0:06:36.920 --> 0:06:39.360 a little bit of rain. An additional intro so possible 0:06:39.360 --> 0:06:42.039 in the New York City area, very little additional accumulation 0:06:42.120 --> 0:06:44.720 around the district in Baltimore. Also, looks like the cold 0:06:44.760 --> 0:06:47.000 in the Upper Midwest will continue for a while longer, 0:06:47.000 --> 0:06:48.920 and then it shifts east this weekend. 0:06:48.600 --> 0:06:50.920 And we continue to track the winter weather, and we'll 0:06:50.960 --> 0:06:53.440 hear from Rob throughout the morning here on Bloomberg Now. 0:06:53.440 --> 0:06:55.320 We've been telling you about the results of the Iowa 0:06:55.400 --> 0:06:58.800 Caucus and part of the fallout, entrepreneur vivek Ramaswami is 0:06:58.880 --> 0:07:00.720 dropping out of the for president. 0:07:00.880 --> 0:07:04.760 As of this moment, we are going to suspend this 0:07:04.839 --> 0:07:08.719 presidential campaign, and this is going to have to be. 0:07:10.200 --> 0:07:13.320 There is no path for me to be the next 0:07:13.360 --> 0:07:16.320 president absent things that we don't want to see happen 0:07:16.400 --> 0:07:16.960 in this country. 0:07:17.040 --> 0:07:20.320 Namaswami suspended his bid after a disappointing showing in the 0:07:20.320 --> 0:07:23.000 Iowa caucus, deciding instead to throw his support to former 0:07:23.080 --> 0:07:25.840 President Trump, who was declared the winner last night. He 0:07:25.920 --> 0:07:28.800 told his supporters there are two America First candidates and 0:07:28.800 --> 0:07:31.800 that he called Trump earlier in the evening to congratulate 0:07:31.920 --> 0:07:35.240 and endorse him. Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin out of 0:07:35.280 --> 0:07:37.800 the hospital and recovering now. The Pentagon says he was 0:07:37.840 --> 0:07:41.400 released from Walter Reed National Military Medical Center yesterday. He 0:07:41.520 --> 0:07:44.680 was admitted the hospital two weeks ago from complications from 0:07:44.760 --> 0:07:49.360 prostate cancer surgery. Three shows dominated the Emmys last night. 0:07:53.560 --> 0:07:57.880 The HBO drama Succession won six awards, including Best Drama Series. 0:07:58.200 --> 0:08:00.960 Effx Is The Bear won Best Colum had won several 0:08:01.000 --> 0:08:04.920 acting honors. Netflix Limited series Beef won five trophies at 0:08:05.000 --> 0:08:08.280 last night ceremony. Quenta Brunson's win for Comedy was the 0:08:08.320 --> 0:08:11.400 first for a female block actor in more than forty years. 0:08:11.840 --> 0:08:14.000 Global News twenty four hours a day and whenever you 0:08:14.040 --> 0:08:16.600 want it with Bloomberg News Now. I'm Amy Morrison. This 0:08:16.640 --> 0:08:17.679 is Bloomberg Karen. 0:08:17.560 --> 0:08:19.280 All right, Amy, thank you. What we do bring you 0:08:19.360 --> 0:08:22.840 news throughout the day right here on Bloomberg Radio. But now, 0:08:22.920 --> 0:08:25.640 as Amy said, you can get the latest news on demand, 0:08:25.640 --> 0:08:28.520 and that means whenever you want it. Just subscribe to 0:08:28.560 --> 0:08:30.880 Bloomberg News Now and you can get the latest headlines 0:08:30.920 --> 0:08:33.160 right at the click of a button. Get informed on 0:08:33.320 --> 0:08:36.400 your schedule. You can listen and subscribe to Bloomberg and 0:08:36.520 --> 0:08:39.839 News Now on the Bloomberg Business app, Bloomberg dot Com 0:08:39.840 --> 0:08:43.640 plus Apples, Spotify, and anywhere else you get your podcasts. 0:08:48.080 --> 0:08:52.079 Time now for the Bloomberg Sports Update, Here's John stash Hour, John. 0:08:52.240 --> 0:08:55.000 Karen An NFL put out doubleheader on a Monday. The 0:08:55.000 --> 0:08:57.640 Buffalo game, of course, moved from Sunday because of all 0:08:57.720 --> 0:09:00.360 the snow there, and they did shovel away at least 0:09:00.440 --> 0:09:02.600 much of the snow in the stands and the fans 0:09:02.600 --> 0:09:05.840 were able to see the Bills defeat Pittsburgh thirty one 0:09:05.960 --> 0:09:08.640 to seventeen. Bills jumped in front twenty one to nothing 0:09:08.720 --> 0:09:11.120 and held on. Josh Allen threw for two touchdowns, also 0:09:11.160 --> 0:09:13.040 had a fifty two yard TV run. The Bills were 0:09:13.080 --> 0:09:15.199 six and six, they've won six in a row and 0:09:15.240 --> 0:09:19.040 they will host Kansas City on Sunday night. The Tampa 0:09:19.040 --> 0:09:21.600 Bay Bucks were four and seven. Since then they've gone 0:09:21.679 --> 0:09:25.160 six and one. Meanwhile, Philadelphia was ten and one, closed 0:09:25.160 --> 0:09:27.760 out the season going one and six. It was all 0:09:27.880 --> 0:09:31.160 Bucks last night, thirty two to nine. Baker Mayfield through 0:09:31.200 --> 0:09:33.400 for three hundred and thirty seven yards three touchdowns. They 0:09:33.440 --> 0:09:37.120 covered twenty three, forty four and fifty six yards and 0:09:37.160 --> 0:09:40.000 now the Bucks get ready to play the Lions in 0:09:40.080 --> 0:09:44.280 Detroit on Sunday. Meanwhile, Bill Belichick is a coaching free 0:09:44.280 --> 0:09:46.680 agent and he has had his first job interview, and 0:09:46.720 --> 0:09:49.040 it's with the Atlanta Falcons. That's, of course, the team 0:09:49.080 --> 0:09:51.839 the Patriots had the big comeback against in Super Bowl 0:09:51.880 --> 0:09:54.360 fifty one. Falcons not a particularly good team under five 0:09:54.440 --> 0:09:58.280 hundred that they do not have a good quarterback. Belichick's sons, 0:09:58.440 --> 0:10:00.760 Steve and Brian, who were both the assistance to him 0:10:00.800 --> 0:10:03.839 in New England, have been told by Giron Mayo, who 0:10:03.880 --> 0:10:06.480 replaced Beeblechick as a new head coach, that they can 0:10:06.640 --> 0:10:10.120 remain with the Pats Jim Harbaugh had an interview with 0:10:10.240 --> 0:10:12.760 the La Chargers. Celtics went to thirty one to nine. 0:10:12.800 --> 0:10:15.000 They wanted Toronto one O five to ninety six. The 0:10:15.000 --> 0:10:18.440 Wizard lost to lowly Detroit at home, and the Warrior 0:10:18.480 --> 0:10:22.640 struggles continue. They lost in Memphis. Just dashaward Bloomberg's. 0:10:22.160 --> 0:10:28.320 Plots from coast to coast, from New York to San Francisco, 0:10:28.640 --> 0:10:32.720 Boston to Washington, d C. Nationwide on Syrias exam the 0:10:32.760 --> 0:10:37.480 Bloomberg Business app in Bloomberg dot Com. This is Bloomberg Daybreak. 0:10:38.640 --> 0:10:39.120 Good morning. 0:10:39.120 --> 0:10:40.000 I'm Nathan Hager. 0:10:40.360 --> 0:10:43.400 Donald Trump's front runner status in the twenty twenty four 0:10:43.480 --> 0:10:47.560 Republican presidential race now appears sealed. That's after the former 0:10:47.600 --> 0:10:51.240 president cruise to victory in last night's Iowa caucuses, with 0:10:51.320 --> 0:10:54.760 many news organizations calling the race before some caucus sites 0:10:54.920 --> 0:10:58.479 even opened in the Hawkeye state. For some morning after analysis, 0:10:58.480 --> 0:11:01.079 we are joined by Greg Valier, the chief US policy 0:11:01.120 --> 0:11:05.520 strategist at AGF Investments. Greg, Good morning. When we listen 0:11:05.600 --> 0:11:08.640 to former President Trump's victory speech, he sounded like a 0:11:08.679 --> 0:11:10.600 candidate who's sealed up the nomination. 0:11:10.920 --> 0:11:11.200 Has he? 0:11:11.880 --> 0:11:14.880 Oh? I think he has? Nathan, Maybe we go until 0:11:14.960 --> 0:11:18.640 March fifth, which is super Tuesday. I think after March fifth, 0:11:18.679 --> 0:11:21.280 Trump will be the presumptive nominee. 0:11:21.640 --> 0:11:24.840 Why do you think he's not the presumptive nominee necessarily? 0:11:25.240 --> 0:11:28.360 Now, well, let's see how New Hampshire turns out. It's 0:11:28.400 --> 0:11:32.520 possible Nikki Haley could have a strong second. Let's see 0:11:32.520 --> 0:11:35.520 how South Carolina turns out a couple of weeks later, 0:11:35.960 --> 0:11:39.400 where Haley could do well. But I'd out of caution. 0:11:39.840 --> 0:11:42.160 I will say maybe this goes until March fifth, but 0:11:42.200 --> 0:11:43.720 I don't think it's going any longer. 0:11:44.120 --> 0:11:48.680 Okay, So, coming out of the Iowa caucuses, the former 0:11:48.720 --> 0:11:52.360 president had more than double the previous record when it 0:11:52.400 --> 0:11:55.840 comes to the margin of victory, coming in nearly thirty 0:11:55.880 --> 0:11:59.760 points ahead of Ron DeSantis. But turnout in this race 0:12:00.360 --> 0:12:02.120 was as low as it's been in more than a 0:12:02.200 --> 0:12:05.040 decade by some counts, as low as it's been in 0:12:05.200 --> 0:12:07.600 a quarter century. I mean, what does that tell you 0:12:07.920 --> 0:12:09.800 about where things stand in the race now? 0:12:10.520 --> 0:12:12.760 I think it shows as a lot of people have 0:12:13.240 --> 0:12:17.760 commented that Donald Trump's supporters would walk over broken glass 0:12:18.240 --> 0:12:21.240 to go to a polling place to vote for Donald Trump. 0:12:21.480 --> 0:12:24.680 His base is really adamantly in favor of him. 0:12:25.520 --> 0:12:30.319 Well, what about Ron DeSantis? The polls coming into this 0:12:30.440 --> 0:12:34.920 caucus appeared as though he might slip to third place, 0:12:34.960 --> 0:12:38.520 but he managed to squeak out second. Does he have 0:12:38.640 --> 0:12:39.360 momentum now? 0:12:40.240 --> 0:12:42.600 Not a lot. I mean it was still a fairly 0:12:43.000 --> 0:12:46.840 week second. And I think that DeSantis is in trouble 0:12:46.880 --> 0:12:49.400 in New Hampshire. I think Nicky Haley will have a 0:12:49.440 --> 0:12:52.760 fairly good night in New Hampshire next week, but DeSantis 0:12:52.840 --> 0:12:55.000 is on really thin ice right now. 0:12:55.840 --> 0:12:59.480 Okay, so how about Nicki Haley? You mentioned that she 0:12:59.559 --> 0:13:01.800 could have a good night in New Hampshire. How do 0:13:01.840 --> 0:13:05.480 you see things playing out in New Hampshire a week 0:13:05.520 --> 0:13:06.120 from today? 0:13:06.720 --> 0:13:09.120 Yeah, I don't think Trump will get fifty percent like 0:13:09.160 --> 0:13:11.280 he did last night. I think he got fifty one 0:13:11.400 --> 0:13:13.920 last night. I think it'll be closer, but I think 0:13:13.960 --> 0:13:18.160 Trump will still win. Then South Carolina a couple weeks 0:13:18.400 --> 0:13:21.480 later could be really interesting because of course Haley is 0:13:21.520 --> 0:13:26.400 from South Carolina, but Trump is very popular there. I 0:13:26.640 --> 0:13:30.000 just don't see a big opening left for Desantus. 0:13:30.640 --> 0:13:35.320 So with the race heading into New Hampshire next week, 0:13:35.440 --> 0:13:39.400 South Carolina the week after that, going into Super Tuesday, 0:13:39.480 --> 0:13:43.360 you don't see it as necessarily being a long slog. 0:13:43.679 --> 0:13:48.840 But how does this race shape President Trump? Former President 0:13:48.920 --> 0:13:52.760 Trump up for a general election contest? Should he be 0:13:52.800 --> 0:13:54.880 thinking about the general election at this point? 0:13:55.080 --> 0:13:59.280 Yeah, the general election looks roughly tied, Paul. Some poles 0:13:59.280 --> 0:14:01.840 showed Trump ahead by two or behind by two. A 0:14:01.880 --> 0:14:05.560 lot of wildcards, Nathan, whether it's immigration. You look at 0:14:05.559 --> 0:14:09.080 the Chinese election this past weekend, you look at a 0:14:09.160 --> 0:14:12.560 need to support Ukraine, you look at what's happening right 0:14:12.600 --> 0:14:15.000 now in the Red Sea. There's a lot of big 0:14:15.040 --> 0:14:16.600 wildcards still to play out. 0:14:17.600 --> 0:14:21.040 And how should President Biden be reacting to this result? 0:14:21.120 --> 0:14:26.040 You mentioned immigration, and going into the race, immigration was 0:14:26.040 --> 0:14:28.840 seen as the biggest issue for many of the voters 0:14:29.000 --> 0:14:32.080 going in here. How should President Biden react to a 0:14:32.120 --> 0:14:33.200 Trump victory in Iowa? 0:14:33.680 --> 0:14:36.240 Well, I'm told that in private he's furious that he's 0:14:36.280 --> 0:14:39.720 not doing better because he feels the economy has improved. 0:14:39.720 --> 0:14:42.720 And he's right, the economy has improved, but there are 0:14:42.720 --> 0:14:46.400 still so many other issues. And to see Biden now 0:14:46.440 --> 0:14:49.880 in the low thirties, you'd have to say, at best 0:14:50.080 --> 0:14:53.200 he's tied with Trump. He may be trailing by three 0:14:53.280 --> 0:14:56.040 or four points. As we get past Super Tuesday. 0:14:56.520 --> 0:14:58.680 How much of an issue at this point is former 0:14:58.720 --> 0:15:02.040 President Trump's legal battles. I mean, coming out of this 0:15:02.200 --> 0:15:04.520 Iowa caucus, He's going to be heading right back into 0:15:04.520 --> 0:15:07.600 a court room later today for the Egene Carrol case. 0:15:07.640 --> 0:15:11.200 That's one of many legal matters that he's dealing with. 0:15:11.640 --> 0:15:15.560 Yeah, I don't get that one. He shows up in court, 0:15:16.320 --> 0:15:20.640 mocks the judge, mocks prosecutors, and thinks that it's going 0:15:20.680 --> 0:15:24.120 to help him politically. I disagree. I don't think he 0:15:24.200 --> 0:15:27.400 has to do that, because he just draws more attention 0:15:27.800 --> 0:15:29.880 to these problems, and. 0:15:29.840 --> 0:15:32.960 He certainly got the attention of Iowa voters last night, 0:15:33.200 --> 0:15:37.880 as you said, walking over coals and over sub zero 0:15:38.080 --> 0:15:40.920 ice to get to the caucuses for him last night. 0:15:40.960 --> 0:15:41.960 Thank you for this. Greg. 0:15:42.160 --> 0:15:44.840 Good having you on with us this morning after the 0:15:44.920 --> 0:15:45.800 Iowa caucuses. 0:15:45.840 --> 0:15:46.800 Greg Valiere with. 0:15:46.840 --> 0:15:51.480 Us this morning, the chief US policy strategist at AGF Investments. 0:15:51.760 --> 0:15:54.880 Now we want to turn from snowy Iowa to snowy 0:15:55.040 --> 0:15:58.440 Switzerland and bring you some of the most important conversations 0:15:58.720 --> 0:16:02.680 from the World Economic Forum annual meeting in Davos. Microsoft 0:16:02.760 --> 0:16:07.359 CEO Satya Nadella says he wants good governance and steadiness 0:16:07.440 --> 0:16:10.600 at open Ai, but he's not worried about the company's 0:16:10.720 --> 0:16:15.680 nonprofit structure and doesn't want greater control over his AI partner. 0:16:15.760 --> 0:16:20.760 Satya Nadella spoke with Bloomberg's Bradstone at Bloomberg House in Davos. 0:16:21.080 --> 0:16:23.800 You guys have been fairly aggressive and out in front 0:16:23.800 --> 0:16:27.480 on adding AI features and capabilities to your products, and 0:16:27.600 --> 0:16:32.160 yesterday you made an announcement where you're expanding the rollout 0:16:32.320 --> 0:16:36.960 of the co pilot tool, fueled partly by your partnership 0:16:36.960 --> 0:16:40.680 with the open Ai, into Microsoft products like Outlook and 0:16:40.760 --> 0:16:43.640 Word and Excel. Talk a little bit about that and 0:16:43.720 --> 0:16:46.880 how widely do you expect those tools to be used. 0:16:47.120 --> 0:16:51.480 Yeah, I mean, if I step back, if you sort 0:16:51.520 --> 0:16:55.080 of look at what has happened even in the last 0:16:55.080 --> 0:16:57.680 so i'd say sixteen months, right, you have to go 0:16:57.840 --> 0:17:01.720 back to November off to two, when chat GPT first 0:17:01.760 --> 0:17:03.360 came out. I think that was the moment, which I 0:17:03.560 --> 0:17:06.880 like to describe as the Mosaic like moment. In fact, 0:17:06.920 --> 0:17:09.880 interesting enough, it is November of ninety three, a year 0:17:09.920 --> 0:17:14.679 after I joined Microsoft in Mosaic first came out, and 0:17:14.720 --> 0:17:17.920 I think that's the first AI product that we all 0:17:18.040 --> 0:17:22.399 could relate to and get a real sense of what 0:17:22.480 --> 0:17:26.439 this generation of AI can do in our lives. But 0:17:26.560 --> 0:17:31.240 for me, maybe the product that really helped crystallize the 0:17:31.280 --> 0:17:34.560 potential was get Up Copilot, which probably came six eight 0:17:34.560 --> 0:17:38.880 months before that, and especially when we know we scaled 0:17:38.880 --> 0:17:43.399 from GPT three to three five, that's around the time 0:17:43.520 --> 0:17:47.000 when we felt that if you can take something like 0:17:47.880 --> 0:17:50.560 software development, which is let's call it, the most elite 0:17:50.640 --> 0:17:54.080 knowledge work there is, and have a tool that allows 0:17:54.359 --> 0:17:57.520 software developer, in fact, bring joy back to software development, 0:17:57.600 --> 0:18:01.200 keep them in flow, get them to finish tasks that 0:18:01.640 --> 0:18:06.440 to be solidified in fact the idea that you can 0:18:06.520 --> 0:18:10.959 have a copilot for pretty much every human task. And 0:18:11.040 --> 0:18:13.960 so we have been on that journey and we are 0:18:13.960 --> 0:18:15.240 anchored on two real things. 0:18:15.280 --> 0:18:15.440 Right. 0:18:15.440 --> 0:18:18.040 The one thing the breakthrough is the user interface. In fact, 0:18:18.080 --> 0:18:20.760 seventy years of computing history has always been about can 0:18:20.800 --> 0:18:23.600 you build that most interuitive user experience. That's kind of 0:18:23.600 --> 0:18:28.119 how it led to graphical interfaces or the multi touch 0:18:28.359 --> 0:18:31.119 phone or what have you. But now with natural language, 0:18:31.160 --> 0:18:33.679 you ultimately in some sense have arrived at that point 0:18:33.800 --> 0:18:37.480 where it's not about us understanding computers, but computers understanding us. 0:18:38.240 --> 0:18:42.399 So that's one major breakthrough. The other breakthrough is we 0:18:42.480 --> 0:18:45.040 now have a new reasoning engine, which is a neural 0:18:45.080 --> 0:18:47.920 reasoning engine, because the other seventy year history of computing 0:18:48.119 --> 0:18:52.359 was we digitize people, places and things and try to 0:18:52.400 --> 0:18:55.040 make sense of it reason about it. And so we 0:18:55.080 --> 0:18:57.240 now have a new capability. So you put these two 0:18:57.240 --> 0:18:59.960 things together, a new user interface that's much more in TUE, 0:19:01.880 --> 0:19:05.600 grounded in natural language, but multi modal, multi turn, multi domain, 0:19:06.240 --> 0:19:09.159 and a reasoning engine. Pretty much every software category, what 0:19:09.240 --> 0:19:12.280 is productivity, what is an operating system, what's the browser? 0:19:13.160 --> 0:19:16.080 They all in some sense collapse. And so that's why 0:19:16.080 --> 0:19:18.760 I do OSK Copilot. Just as maybe in the past 0:19:18.800 --> 0:19:21.960 we were known as an office company, or a Windows 0:19:22.000 --> 0:19:24.960 company or a cloud company, I think going forward we 0:19:25.000 --> 0:19:26.760 will be We have a co pilot. We have a 0:19:26.800 --> 0:19:29.679 co pilot stack in Azure, which is all the APIs 0:19:30.680 --> 0:19:32.840 and that's sort of what our co focus is. 0:19:33.000 --> 0:19:36.000 Right now, tell us let's talk a little bit about 0:19:36.040 --> 0:19:39.760 the relationship with open ai and how we should understand it. 0:19:40.560 --> 0:19:46.000 Copilot is powered by open Ai. We saw some instability 0:19:46.320 --> 0:19:48.879 in the relationship back in November, which. 0:19:50.720 --> 0:19:55.440 You seem to have now come through is Microsoft. 0:19:54.880 --> 0:19:58.760 Outsourcing what you're describing as a core capability going forward? 0:19:58.800 --> 0:20:02.480 And yeah, so I think if you sort of step back, 0:20:03.880 --> 0:20:07.439 in fact, it's probably helpful to understand. I grew up 0:20:07.440 --> 0:20:13.640 in a Microsoft which sort of had these massive partnerships. 0:20:14.320 --> 0:20:18.840 The first partnership that at least I joined was around 0:20:18.920 --> 0:20:22.080 Intel and Microsoft. I don't think Windows would have existed 0:20:22.119 --> 0:20:26.680 without Intel, and Intel wouldn't have had the success without Windows. Subsequently, 0:20:26.720 --> 0:20:29.359 in fact, it's interesting, I worked on our sql server 0:20:29.440 --> 0:20:32.600 product with SAP. In fact, I don't think sql database 0:20:32.600 --> 0:20:37.400 would have existed without SAP. SAP success of being able 0:20:37.440 --> 0:20:40.719 to support sql server also help them a lot, and 0:20:40.760 --> 0:20:42.400 so in the same way, and I think of open 0:20:42.440 --> 0:20:45.720 AI and Microsoft, so I'm used to constructing. In fact, 0:20:45.720 --> 0:20:48.399 a lot of people talk about organic development, which of 0:20:48.440 --> 0:20:50.919 course is the core. People talk about M and A, 0:20:51.240 --> 0:20:53.679 but sort of not as much as talked about how 0:20:53.760 --> 0:20:58.720 much enterprise value gets created by partnering effectively. So that's 0:20:58.760 --> 0:21:02.280 the spirit with which I think about open AI. So 0:21:02.600 --> 0:21:05.360 there's a whole lot we do. So when you say outsourcing, 0:21:05.400 --> 0:21:08.280 who's outsourcing what to whom? Is the real question? 0:21:08.440 --> 0:21:08.640 Right? 0:21:08.680 --> 0:21:12.240 So we build a compute, they then use the compute 0:21:12.280 --> 0:21:14.600 to do the training. We then take that put it 0:21:14.640 --> 0:21:18.000 into products, and so in some sense, it's a partnership 0:21:18.040 --> 0:21:21.159 that is based on each of us really reinforcing what 0:21:21.240 --> 0:21:25.080 everyone each other does, and then ultimately being competitive in 0:21:25.080 --> 0:21:30.320 the marketplace. There's room for I call it horizontal specialization. 0:21:30.680 --> 0:21:34.560 There is room for vertical specialization. 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