Episode 267 | The People V.S. Mal

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Speaker 1: He's not my best friend if I ain't seen him in two years or talk to him for two years, and you don't know who the he.

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Speaker 2: Is going off this hypothetical that they're reconnecting.

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Speaker 1: Test He said that was his little homie that he ain't seen in a while. He didn't say that was his best little homie.

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Speaker 2: Never came out of his mouth.

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Speaker 1: Swear to God, he said that was my little homie.

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Speaker 2: All right. I mean, sometimes you got to your little homies. Girls don't know who the big.

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Speaker 3: Will enough.

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Speaker 2: And we are passed so like we never left quick a few days.

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Speaker 4: My life has been.

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Speaker 2: My life is like in a neutral bullet Right now, I'm curious what your phone has been like the last few days, because mine was it's been in a neutral bullet Mine was blowing up a about you, So I can only imagine what your phone was.

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Speaker 4: Why are your phone blowing up about me?

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Speaker 2: Because the whole world was reacting to your reaction of a reaction of a reaction we all do now.

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Speaker 4: We react to a reaction of somebody reacting to Yes, an action.

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Speaker 2: To Drake reacting to Kendrick, who was reacting to Drake, who was reacting to Kendrick And now we're here reacting to people reacting to my phone about your reaction.

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Speaker 4: So your phone's going off for forty eight hours. Yes, I got some interesting text messages. I got some interesting phone calls. I facetimes.

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Speaker 2: I got some great text messages from West Coast people that that can't wait to have a conversation, not in that type of way, but would love to debate with you further.

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Speaker 4: Oh, I thought you about to say I can't go to La no.

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Speaker 5: More, no, no, no no.

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Speaker 2: Everything was love and actually from the people you would the public would think would like hate you. That is super team Kendrick and is publicly.

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Speaker 4: I don't hate I don't hate nobody, so you can't hate me. If you hate me, that's just I don't hate nobody. I've been very clear throughout this thing. It's not hate. It's just, you know, I'm just kind of like befuddled at just the reactions. It's like, y'all don't really like I get it, you know what I mean, But it's just like stop, like we could stop at some point, I mean, but have fun though, have fun now, but we're going to have to have a real conversation.

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Speaker 2: Of course, that clip went viral the way it did because it's clipped to a specific time of you yelling loud. That'll always get people moving within context. Yeah, actual conversation happened at one point, and everyone just thinks you screamed for two hours.

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Speaker 4: You know, and I don't want that, Like that's just so nasty because I'm not a screamer. But it's just like, you know, just in that moment, I just felt like, you know, when you get frustrated that people just can't like understand what you're saying a lot, do y'all not exactly?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so that's all you guys understand why I'm always mad.

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Speaker 4: People like, oh, he's so madic. I'm not mad at Kendrick. I want to be madic Kendrick.

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Speaker 2: I'm not Medican punch that it sounded personal. It's not.

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Speaker 4: I was like personal, it's not personal punch. I don't even know if he's ever met Kendrick. I met Kendrick years ago, though not I haven't been around Kendrick in some years. But you know, it's it's like I said, I fuck with Kendrick, very clear about that. These are two of my favorite rappers of their times. But by far, it's not even close. But you know, just just getting frustrated with people's just lack of comprehending what's happening and what's going on. And but you know, I got to stop feeling like everybody just is supposed to understand what I'm saying. I get in that zone sometimes and I'm like frustrated. But it wasn't yelling at Kendrick. I'm not upset at Kendrick.

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Speaker 2: I'm not just explaining that.

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Speaker 4: I'm just yeah, like I said, I'm not upset it. I'm not mad about anything. It's just like this is a very passionate, very like you know, intense time in music.

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Speaker 2: That's all.

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Speaker 6: Well.

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Speaker 2: I was talking with Punch and we were discussing how rap beef brings the worst out of everybody. At some point when you're debating, even let's say fuck rap beef, just debate, at some point, someone is gonna scream and get out of their character. I don't know why hip hop does that to us. Maybe it's because we love it so much. At some point we're all going to yell. So Terris Martin tweeted that he loves you. Maybe you just ate something wrong that day Oh my god, he did. He said, I love them all maybe with terrorist ter Sibby too. I forgot his sweet was something like that, I love Mall, but he maybe maybe he ate something wrong that day, maybe he had cheese or me.

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Speaker 4: Listen, man, these guys know me. Man, I'm not I'm not, you know. I just let me apologize to people that took what my passion was the wrong way. I'm not upset, I'm not angry. It's all music. It's all a good time. Even though I don't agree with what Kendrick is trying to paint, I understand it.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I just want to shoot you bail of everyone that was under those comments. Every last one of y'all has been melting down for an entire week on the timeline just because it's not audio. Your thumbs were louder than maul for seven days straight. Yeah, they have, their thumbs are melted. The way they've been going off Mall expresses how maybe one side felt and the other side felt just in a different way. You guys were yelling just like that on the tiot.

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Speaker 3: Mall also has the platform to do so there's a difference between tweeting at somebody and being in a studio and having the ability to push Yeah, I mean, but visual aids, like, there's a lot more that goes into what mal does, right, I.

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Speaker 4: Think, But again, I think it's just the power of people just seeing a clip and just taking that and you know, trying to spin whatever they're trying to spin on it. But no, I'm not upset at Kendrick because when I've read that, I was like, what I saw some guy on TikTok saying that I was the guy that gave Kendrick like some info. I was like, the stories that are coming from this, I'm.

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Speaker 5: Like, wait me, oh yeah, you became the mall.

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Speaker 4: That shit is insane.

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Speaker 2: Actually, me and Kendrick have been planning this since the BT cipher in twenty eleven. Oh yeah, we're that calculating.

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Speaker 4: I'm just I'm just laughing at that type of shit. But you know, it's it's it's all in a good sport. Nobody's up.

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm not.

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Speaker 3: Well, now that you saw the fallout in the public, the matter of public opinion not just on the beef but more specifically directed at you, did that change your tone at all?

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Speaker 5: Do you feel differently about this situation?

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Speaker 4: No, okay, kidding me, Craig is still smashing.

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Speaker 3: I wasn't millions of people that disagree with you.

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Speaker 4: You think I give a fuck with millions of people say millions of people can have bad taste. You know that, right, of course, as long as we know that part of it. I'm not one of those guys in for centuries. I'm not one of those guys that thinks that because a restaurant has a high rating that the food is great. I'm not one of those let me tell you, let me go and see, because a lot of people don't know what good food is. Yeah, but no long enough to understand that part. But you're not. No, it's not. But these restaurants you'll be going to, it is just for a picture. The food is terrible.

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Speaker 2: But then you go to some of those really fancy, world renowned restaurants and you get like, this much food has no real flavor. Yeah, it just has the name exactly, And that's not good food to me. I'd rather go to the Chinese spot that Ken Kendrick go to.

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Speaker 1: You're saying Kendrick is Felipe.

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Speaker 4: Did I say that? No, I'm not saying Kendrick is Felipe. I'm just saying that that's fleet bath to me. Yeah, that shit is terrible, but just taste levels, that's all. It is no disrespect to Felipe, to whoever. You know what I mean, Like that shit is all all that shit is trash to me, but it's just just it just tastes level.

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Speaker 2: I'm not going to get you started, But a lot of people would think that Drake would be more on the side of the high name like a Philip that everyone loves and goes to. That's the place they take pictures. That gets the most attention, but it doesn't have the best food when you get to the kitchen. Most people would say that in this food comparison, I hate you. I'm not trying to get you started.

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Speaker 4: Listen, bro, I'm already started.

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Speaker 3: Is that the case anymore though, Rory, because Not Like Us has been number one, which eclipsed Euphoria, which is now sitting at number two, So Kendrick now occupies the top two spots in the charts, and Not Like Us in its fourth day, has over twelve million streams on Spotify alone, which is his first not only his first solo number one, but also in its fourth day. This is the most dreams it's gotten. So it's still going up. Yeah, maybe he is the Philip.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, anyone that is number one Philip.

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Speaker 4: Now we know why he's sitting at number one and number two first, because the biggest it's a comedy.

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Speaker 2: It's a comedy.

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Speaker 4: It's a common denominator in this somewhere. This is a there's a common factor in there somewhere. These are Drake features.

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Speaker 5: It is a Drake. I'll give you that.

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Speaker 4: These are Drake. And I said it before this beef started. I said, getting a beef, getting into a beef with the artist like that is way is going to do way more for you than you having a verse from an artist like that. Yeah, it's not even close.

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Speaker 2: We definitely had that conversation that Push made out better beefing with Drake than if he just got a Drake feature. For sure, I agree with you there, But I also want to say, so what, like, Okay.

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Speaker 4: No, I'm just saying I guess that's.

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Speaker 2: That's a stat on that.

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Speaker 4: That's great he got there, Because as long as you don't lose sight of that part, you could say, so what, I'm cool with that. As long as we don't lose sight of that other.

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Speaker 2: Piece, and I think it deserves the number one off the difficulty it takes to beat Drake, not only in charts but in public perception. I think it's warranted number one. Outside of the song just being good y'all. That's me giving credit to Drake. It takes a lot to beat that guy.

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Speaker 4: No, no, we know that, but I'm just you.

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Speaker 2: Know, the story of added On didn't go number one.

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Speaker 4: As long as as long as long as we keep that so what is valid.

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Speaker 2: To I'm whistling on the numbers always do. I think it's great and congratulate Drake for being the highest stream or second highest stream person of all time beat the Beatles. I think that's amazing, but I don't really care in this. I also don't care about Kendrick going number one on this.

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Speaker 1: And let's clarify that these are Spotify charts. These are not Billboard. Just want to clarify that what you.

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Speaker 3: Try right now, like us as number one on Billboard.

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Speaker 2: My album was number ten on Spotify amongst all genres. Now you're trying to dicredit me because it wasn't on Billboard. Honestly, I don't even you part of the machine. Spotify is the real number. It's you compromised.

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Speaker 1: No, I'm just saying, like, I just want to make that clear that Taylor Swift is still sitting at the top of Billboard.

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Speaker 2: But she doesn't count.

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Speaker 4: She's like, yeah, she's yeah, being number two behind Taylor right now.

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Speaker 1: Well, Tommy Richmond is number two right now. That's but that's fire right, resting fire. I love that for him, But that's bill where But he was talking about Spotify.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and comparatively, Drake has had if we're talking Billboard, five thirteen total, but five solo number ones.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, they're both pretty good at making music.

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Speaker 3: See that.

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Speaker 2: After like the dust, I won't say the dust has settled per se. No, Yeah, it's still it's it's the only thing people are discussing. But now that we're getting into these other intricates of numbers and that whole thing, this is when it starts to get a little exhausting for me, because it's like, yeah, who gives a fuck, We already know who Drake is number wise, it's not what we're here to talk about. So once you get in that little back and forth, it's like, well, what was the point, right, if numbers were the point, then why even have the battle?

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Speaker 4: I mean, but you know, again back to the start of this, we knew that this was obviously going to be one of, if not the biggest moment that we've seen in hip hop music as far as battling goes. I mean, obviously the Jay and Os battle is it's still probably right there as well, but this one just because of everything that's added to and an attached to it now, with social media being such a thing now and people having so many different platforms, media outlets and things like that, like this is this just feels like a bigger a bigger moment.

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Speaker 2: Do you think, not like us being number one though? Fuck numbers. Just it being number one and it playing.

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Speaker 4: Numbers and this say being number one, let.

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Speaker 2: Me land it it being number one, it playing at NBA games, it playing at tennis matches, it playing on the news hurting. It's hurting Drake's So I'm not saying numbers wise matter or a number one slot matters. I'm saying what that number one is represented and where it's spread. Is that affecting his brand? That a pedal anthem is playing in the NBA playoffs, Tennis players are walking out to it.

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Speaker 4: I don't think it's I don't think it's hurting Drake's brand. I think that it may feel like that, and it may look like that, but I think ultimately, once this settles, I think it's gonna hurt Kendrick's brand more because if, if, if Drake is found and proven not to be a pedal, which I know he's not, once the public seeds that. I mean, is this not one of the worst things you can call a person? But agree, yes, when it's not who they are, it's up there.

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Speaker 2: This is one of the worst things you can say about No, to me, this is the worst. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I don't think there's any other thing you can label a person ever, like snitching and all that shit. I get that shit with street shit. I understand that.

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Speaker 1: Part rapists might be worse.

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Speaker 5: I mean.

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Speaker 4: This is this is the same thing. It's just with a cer, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 2: So it's like.

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Speaker 3: Anti Semitic in there too, Well.

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Speaker 2: That's that's Taylor Swift. And then we're going that number two thought.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Taylor Swift anti number.

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Speaker 2: One no matter what exact effects.

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Speaker 4: So it's like if you're not if you're not that and somebody labels you that. To me, that's some of the craziest shit ever. To me, I'm just speaking for me. I'm only ever speaking for me in my taste level. I think labeling somebody that and they're not, that's not who they are. It's some of the worship you could ever. But let's let's whether we want to say it's entertainment or not. It's certain shit you just don't even even in entertainment, even behind the guys of entertainment and comedy and things like that, there's certain shit you just don't ever play with it. To me, that's at the top of the list.

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Speaker 2: I mean, let's go with history that with the court of public opinion. Is the damage already done. Let's say Drake comes out, and of course I hope that on a moral les and outside of a rat beef, that he can prove to the world that you know, I don't touch kids. This was fucking crazy. Is the damn he's going to do?

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Speaker 4: That said, he's explaining to public doesn't care.

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Speaker 2: You'll see rapists go to jail covered for a year, all the whole trial, they'll sit for twenty years, find out they're innocent, they'll come out of jail, won't cover at all, There'll be a rapist for the rest of their life. Is the damage done already even if he proves otherwise.

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Speaker 4: I don't know. I don't think so, because I don't think that nobody truly believes that. Yeah, I don't think nobody believes that.

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Speaker 3: I think there's plausible deniability, like there's enough Kendrick wouldn't have jumped out like that if there wasn't enough smut in like the public perception of him that it fit. So the fact that we're even speculating it is enough. Kendrick won I think in that regard, you know what I.

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Speaker 4: Mean, speculating it. I don't think nobody's speculating that.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I think whatever side you're on, you've made up your mind.

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Speaker 4: I don't think nobody speculating that.

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Speaker 3: But I was looking, I was wrapping my mind around, Okay, who I know they're not, No one will compare to Drake. But who's someone that's in a very high position of power that got charged with this kind of level of thing. But then it was all bull and they where they welcome back to the community. James James Gunn The video the director that did Guardians of the Galaxy got they he always had like he was talking to young girl, but he never did anything.

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Speaker 5: It was like weird.

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Speaker 3: He was a he had a really dark, sick sense of humor, and he wasn't talking young girls.

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Speaker 5: He just made really fucked up in appropriate jokes.

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Speaker 3: And like in the height of the me too movement, someone took all his old tweets, all his old posts and put it on like this ten page doc, all of his like fucked up shit in like one doc, and they're like, well, this is fine.

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Speaker 5: You got to get him out of here. But he didn't do anything.

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Speaker 3: So then he got booted off that project, got like ripped out of Marvel, and then for years was like ghost and then DC signed him again because obviously all the shit was bullshit nothing, he didn't actually do anything. And now he's working on like the New Gardens of the Galaxy Milky. So there is like a path to redemption. But I feel like you have to like at least get off the public. You have to get through the public ridicule that comes with it, true or not.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I just don't know how you go about that. I mean, I saw and I'm not saying convenely, but I would try to clean this shit up if I'm not a pedophile. All the girls that were in those videos that were all over the timeline that everyone was accusing Drake of either grooming or being a pedal towards all conveniently came out on the same day and said, Hey, that's not how it went. Even the girl that made the money in the grave beat was like, you guys misunderstood me. I don't understand how you guys didn't understand me when she flat out said we were in high school when it happened cool. Everyone cleaned it up, and if I'm Drake, I do the same thing. I'm not accusing him of doing brand clean up. If someone calls me a pedophile and I wasn't creeping on a chick, I'd say, yo, can you tell these people that we have no relationship like that? Even that kind of fell flat to me. They all came out in one day. They were on a bunch of podcasts I'd never heard of, making statements with a bunch of people I'd never seen before, and it still fell flat. So I guess that's my question of how can you even turn that around if that is not even the truth.

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Speaker 4: I mean, to me, it's nothing to turn around. I don't think that's a real thing. I think because somebody said it in a record, okay, like this is a battle, people are gonna say things to try to assassinate somebody's character and demean somebody. But that's not a real thing, you know what I mean. It's just not a real thing. It's And then when he did explain it in the hard part six, y'all said, oh, why is he always explaining itself? I felt like, if somebody said that about me, I'm gonna explain that to like WHOA hold up, let's be clear here, that ain't that's not true. I don't understand. This is a battle, and all of it was like, fam this it's certain that you're just not gonna just throw out there like that's that's insane to throw that on somebody's jacket.

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Speaker 2: I agree, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 4: So it's just like you know, I don't it's not a real thing. But because of the moment and that's what was said, I think that you have to address it. But you're saying it fell flat. It fell flat because it wasn't a real thing to begin with.

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Speaker 2: How do you I'm just saying the turning turning around the public's opinion.

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Speaker 4: Bro, you think that if you think that if Drake was having sex with underage girls, we Kendrick would have been the one to put that out there like that. No, I'm not, I would have been new that.

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Speaker 3: I'm just saying, like, I just don't want to tell you so definitively about things like we don't know, none of us know, we don't know what each other does, behind like we don't know.

00:18:09
Speaker 2: In that sense.

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Speaker 4: Yet You're right, I've never seen this man lay down in his bed with whomever he lays down with. No, never seen that. I'm just gonna but I can say the same thing about a lot of other people in my life that I know for sure. Yeah, so it's like the same thing. I would be completely and totally fucking floored if that were true. I would be like, Oh, this is fucking insane, and there's nothing I won't come on my platform and say about how I feel about that. If it's found to be true, I don't fuck with shit like that. But because I feel so strongly that it's not true, it's crazy to me that somebody's throwing that out there on somebody's jacket like that to me is something you don't play with.

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Speaker 2: Okay, well, then what do you think about some of the videos? Even though let's go with the seventeen year old that came on stage and that said somebody else from OVO picked her out of the crowd. Whatever she said her her age. Drake was like, whoa, you're gonna get me, and it seemed like he made the right move when he found out her age, but then continued on and was like, Yo, you're really gonna get me in trouble. I felt your breasts and all. This was all after she said she was seventeen. Is that just a mistake or is that a red flag?

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna go on the side of a mistake then a red flag because of it was part of this. It was on stage at the show in that moment, so I can understand that. Now, if this was something where they're just at dinner chilling at a table and that happens, then it's like he got that that's what you were doing at dinner like, but on stage, you know, that's part of the show. I kind of again, and I'm not saying it's right. So that's what I'm saying. On the side of a mistake, I'm not gonna say that's a red flag and this is what he doing, this is his bag, and no, like, I'm not gonna go on that side of it.

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Speaker 2: I don't think it would warrant a full this man's a pedophile and rhyme it and make it a number one record, but it it was a little weird after he found out. In the beginning, I was like, oh, how would he know? At first, I didn't know why people were outraged. In the beginning of the clip, I was like, well, if he didn't know, this is some acon shit. And when Akon got in trouble and this is a twenty one plus club, the fuck is security letting is girling for It was the after effects where I was like, all right, I kind of see what people are saying. He knows the age. Why are you doubling down on the freakingness? So that raises flags with people? And when someone has something that rhymes that well and you have at least one bit of video evidence, the court of public opinion is going to be very difficult to turn around, especially when the girl and I'm not saying he drake put her up to it, or UMG or employer. I'm just saying she didn't really clean anything up her, just saying, you know, I didn't feel violated.

00:20:48
Speaker 3: Cool.

00:20:50
Speaker 2: We didn't say you did in the beginning. We just said he was a little freaky and weird after he found out your age. Yeah, that's all it was. So back to my original point of I don't really know how this can be cleaned up for no matter how much control damage he does with it. He could break every girl could come out like how he no damage though. The only way in this world, unfortunately, is just go make good music and hopefully people will forget, which is fucked up. But that's the world we live in. Go make another good movie. We forget about the nasty actor.

00:21:23
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's I think Kendrick played it so well because it's the court of public opinion, which we've learned doesn't abide by the due process.

00:21:32
Speaker 2: There's no due process, which just court of public opinion.

00:21:35
Speaker 3: It's just whoever is if there's enough speculative evidence and there's enough dots to connect this that there could be some what of a truth, a through line hammer it, and I think that's exactly what Kendrick did.

00:21:45
Speaker 4: So Kendrick doesn't have anything there.

00:21:47
Speaker 3: I'm not saying Kendrick like no, I mean now to inversely, we can have the conversation about the video coming out of the employees the security team at the hard Rock the in twenty fourteen, and the woman is saying, you know, I shouldn't be saying this. Uh, you know, Kendrick, there was a Kendrick beat up. This woman interface all bloody all that ship. Look that seems like more hard evidence like that seems pretty concrete. So yeah, I don't But again, I just kind of responded that on the record. I don't know how that plays out obviously that that at the time didn't take a legal route, so it seems like they internally figured.

00:22:19
Speaker 4: It out nothing but Drake took good legal route.

00:22:22
Speaker 5: No.

00:22:22
Speaker 3: No, So they're both it's just kind of stuck in this space.

00:22:26
Speaker 4: But Drake has to clean up and do damage control.

00:22:33
Speaker 2: I want to make this just a Drake thing. I think since that video has resurfaced.

00:22:38
Speaker 4: What do we find more believable out of these two? And it's nasty that yeah, like it's nasty, want to like have but it's out there. We just we just consumers of the of the music at this point, were just talking about what we heard.

00:22:49
Speaker 2: I don't know either of these gentlemen. I really don't. I've had a few conversations with Drake and I'm just I don't know this.

00:22:56
Speaker 4: Say this was a guy named fucking Dante and a guy named fucking fucking Aaron. Right, who's Dante and who's Aaron Dante Dante? They're saying Dante from They're saying Dante is a pedophile, right, he's a fucking rap superstar, and like, oh, he's a pedophile, right, And then they're saying Aaron beat his his his.

00:23:16
Speaker 5: Fiance up that we need to speculate.

00:23:18
Speaker 4: I'm just saying, like, let's just say we could just remove the names from it. Remove the names from it. Whither you think is a more believable, believable act?

00:23:27
Speaker 2: Can I give you a very political answer.

00:23:28
Speaker 4: That why you want to go to say CNN, this is R and M.

00:23:33
Speaker 2: It's the truth. What we're doing. Nice say CNN what we're doing. He ain't gotta be political judging. But do you think it's history and percentages? Both of them are guilty?

00:23:43
Speaker 4: See when is when is the last time. Okay, you told we're talking about the scope. You're talking about just in the scope of the ship that happens in the world, that's what you're talking about. I'm talking about the numbers. I'm talking about a fucking pop superstar. Listen, I being a pedophile. I don't want to put have we seen it before? They tried it with somebody else that was a pop superstar. Never found nothing.

00:24:08
Speaker 2: Fair, you know what I'm just saying.

00:24:10
Speaker 4: Where we going with this? Where we going?

00:24:14
Speaker 2: I'm Mike Jack Princey know, it's a lot of comparisons happening in the history. I'm just saying, I'm going in on every rich, famous person that they are a pedophile. But we have seen in the last ten years that there is a community amongst the elite that is a little fucking petty. And I don't mean finally, and I've ran into my fair share of pedophiles. As we've joked on this podcast. They were not rich and famous. Matter of fact, they was broke, drunk and nasty.

00:24:41
Speaker 4: Yeah, that was like the two bis of the pedal.

00:24:44
Speaker 2: I don't even know if I put it. They didn't even have a channel. They have a YouTube account.

00:24:48
Speaker 5: The street.

00:24:50
Speaker 2: They had a flipcam.

00:24:51
Speaker 4: Maybe your molesting somebody with a flipcam is you turn around?

00:24:57
Speaker 2: Turn around?

00:24:58
Speaker 4: You know you had to flip the phone a bat hold.

00:25:00
Speaker 2: It and then how long it would take to upload that footage. You're dedicated.

00:25:06
Speaker 4: That's not fun.

00:25:07
Speaker 5: It's cool.

00:25:09
Speaker 2: Listen. I liked the route Drake took.

00:25:12
Speaker 4: Say something else, but he said I like that said you had obl That's why about to say no, I just you said I like, and I was like, wait, where were you.

00:25:24
Speaker 2: In nineteen ninety six, uh something in that. Judging by the numbers, yeah, it's not that crazy to think that someone rich and powerful could end up in a fucking pedophile ring. That's ran Garcia. I understand now.

00:25:38
Speaker 4: I understand that.

00:25:39
Speaker 2: I don't think it's crazy to think numbers coming from somebody would beat their wife because that's very fucking common. So no, I don't think it's crazy to hear, Unfortunately, anybody in the world if you found out that they.

00:25:49
Speaker 4: Were talking I'm talking about I'm talking about artists, superstars, especially of this caliber, of this caliber coming from rap. When is the when? When have we ever seen.

00:25:58
Speaker 2: That Doctor dre is on record of one of the biggest women abusers. Ever, I know no one will say it. I know it's everyone's scared.

00:26:06
Speaker 4: To say that. But he's not a rap superstar.

00:26:08
Speaker 2: Bro, Doctor Dre was not a superstar. He's a billionaire. He was the first billionaire in this space.

00:26:13
Speaker 4: Rap rap rap rap rap rap. Doctor Dre is not a rap superstar.

00:26:19
Speaker 2: Bro what he's not?

00:26:22
Speaker 4: He's not a rap superstar. What are you talking about?

00:26:24
Speaker 2: He did the super Bowl?

00:26:28
Speaker 5: He's a hip hop superstar? Is that? Is that where you're You're just saying as a lyricist.

00:26:32
Speaker 4: I'm talking about as a rapper, As a rapper. I don't understand why.

00:26:36
Speaker 1: Or into the conversation, like the argument that you guys are happening, Why is him rapping importance to the conversation. He's still a superstar.

00:26:44
Speaker 4: Because I'm talking about a rapper, a rap superstar, not somebody that's huge in business, a business mobil, one of the greatest producers ever. I'm talking about somebody that is strictly an artist that has that has from him. I'm not no, I'm just saying, whenever we seen That's what I thought. When have we seen any of those guys actually be found to be a pedophile?

00:27:05
Speaker 2: Oh, I don't none that I know of. No, the the creator, if you will, of this ship is a known pedophile.

00:27:14
Speaker 4: Okay, that after that isn't.

00:27:17
Speaker 1: Did he be in charged right now with sex trafficking and underage girl?

00:27:22
Speaker 2: I don't know if it's of underage girls.

00:27:24
Speaker 4: I really don't. I don't think it's underage girls.

00:27:26
Speaker 2: Don't the one girl did?

00:27:27
Speaker 1: She says she was sixteen.

00:27:28
Speaker 3: If you have sex trafficking, do you really draw the line at age? That's kind of my where I'm at with do.

00:27:33
Speaker 4: You know what sex trafficking is?

00:27:34
Speaker 5: Yes, I get it that there's like.

00:27:36
Speaker 2: No loophole if you fly a girl in and have consensual sex your sex, because I know the loophole, But I don't think that's what was going on over there. In some cases, I'm just saying we've never seen we've never seen. If we have, it's very few and fam between. If it goes from being a pedophile or being and an abusing spouse partner.

00:27:56
Speaker 3: You're seeing more of that numbers wise, it's more likely.

00:28:00
Speaker 4: Saying we've seen more of that than we've seen that, and not saying we've never seen that. I'm just saying more commonly, we get stories of physical abuse on their spouse, and.

00:28:10
Speaker 2: Because that's more common in the world, Like we're trying to put a microscope on hip hop, which is unfair to hip hop because the world is.

00:28:19
Speaker 4: Way about that. We've been told in this moment.

00:28:22
Speaker 2: And I'm saying by numbers, there's probably more wife beaters in there is. This is such a nasty conversation. But this is this is this is this is what we've been presented, and this is what I told the Washington Post once the dust settled, we were about to have a conversation that was going to be so nasty.

00:28:37
Speaker 4: This is what I didn't want to know it. That's all I'm saying. That's why I said what I said in the beginning of this episode. That to me, putting that on somebody when you don't know if that's true or not, it's some of the crazy shit. Ever, That's all I'm saying.

00:28:49
Speaker 2: But also don't say in the same breath that I beat my wife if I did not beat my wife. True.

00:28:56
Speaker 4: I'm with you on that. I'm definitely with you on that.

00:28:59
Speaker 1: And I mean I thought the kid think the off airs and rat battle.

00:29:02
Speaker 2: Oh no, it is I thought. I'm still on that side. I'm on that side.

00:29:05
Speaker 4: Why when it comes to shit like holding somebody, there are rules and rat battles in life. Just throwing that on somebody's yo, that he's a pedal?

00:29:12
Speaker 5: What but he didn't?

00:29:13
Speaker 2: Just not crazy?

00:29:13
Speaker 5: It is like he said it because there was enough?

00:29:17
Speaker 4: Is there enough?

00:29:18
Speaker 5: There was enough?

00:29:19
Speaker 3: If there's enough that It's been the crux of this whole thing since it came out, Is he is he not? If there wasn't anything plausible that people could see in Drake that this might not be true, this would have gone away so fast.

00:29:31
Speaker 5: There was a reason why it's still hanging on.

00:29:34
Speaker 4: I think the thing was, Oh, what I thought in the beginning was because people were saying Drake likes young girls. I think people took that because a young girl could be a twenty one, twenty two, twenty three year old.

00:29:44
Speaker 2: It could still be a groomer.

00:29:45
Speaker 4: It's not yeah, I'm just saying a young girl could be twenty two, twenty. That's a young girl to somebody's thirty five, thirty four, thirty.

00:29:52
Speaker 2: Six years old.

00:29:52
Speaker 5: I think he's thirty seven.

00:29:54
Speaker 4: Whatever he is. I'm just saying that could be considered a young girl. So I think when people hear that they automatically to underage girl or a fucking minor. And it's like, no, if I'm thirty four and I like a twenty two year old, I'm not doing anything illegal.

00:30:10
Speaker 3: Yeah, but the gold Poet like the shift happens. Uh Like, if you have an affinity for younger women, so then just do the math. So if Drake's thirty seven then likes women that are twenty, okay, well, when he was twenty five, you probably likes women that are.

00:30:23
Speaker 4: I'm not giving you that. I'm not seventeen.

00:30:25
Speaker 3: Now you sound I'm just saying like if you if you're using is younger white man?

00:30:28
Speaker 4: Sound crazy?

00:30:29
Speaker 6: Now?

00:30:29
Speaker 5: It's just because he's getting older now he has a luxury.

00:30:31
Speaker 4: It's ex pedophile he's talking about you sound crazy.

00:30:35
Speaker 2: He's when when he.

00:30:37
Speaker 4: Was twenty five, he was fit, he liked girls. That what do you talk?

00:30:40
Speaker 2: I don't know even everything about pedophiles. I just don't think it works in a stagger that what is that?

00:30:46
Speaker 3: That's I think if you like that, I'm saying, if your thing is younger women when you're twenty three, you probably don't want to be with a twenty one year old girl. You probably want to be with a woman that's a girl that's seventeen sixteen, because you like that dyeting of being that much older than your person that you're with. That's my point. So when you're thirty seven, she's twenty, I'm seventeen years older than her. Yeah, it's legal, it's cool, but like, yeah, she's still youngert shit, but like there's a bigger gap that.

00:31:11
Speaker 2: Maybe you are you're into grooming. I don't think that means yeah.

00:31:15
Speaker 3: I think grooming is probably the more appropriate term to use, at least when it comes to this situation.

00:31:20
Speaker 2: Like, I don't think if a sixty year old likes children, when that child becomes thirty and they're ninety, they're like, oh, I like them now because they're thirty. No, I think they liked the child.

00:31:30
Speaker 1: By the way, they're calling Metro boom in Metro grooming, and I'm sorry, that's fucky.

00:31:34
Speaker 2: Very funny lyrics old tweet So Metro's old tweets popped up and they're they're they're nasty even in the wild wild West of twets.

00:31:45
Speaker 4: But wasn't he young when he tweeted all this shit?

00:31:47
Speaker 3: The A twenty eleven some of them he was underage, but oh so.

00:31:51
Speaker 4: I just see twenty eleven, twenty twelve is fourteen.

00:31:55
Speaker 5: Yeah, just a couple of these. She might be young, but she ready it's a good lyric, no though.

00:32:00
Speaker 4: Twenty fourteen he said she might be young?

00:32:02
Speaker 2: How was how old?

00:32:03
Speaker 4: Was metro booming in twenty fourteen?

00:32:04
Speaker 5: But also who's yacht?

00:32:05
Speaker 2: Like? Who's also in Alicia Key's song written by Drake Swag, We're being real that might be young? When I'm ready out.

00:32:13
Speaker 3: Of context, he's all, I mean, they don't look great at all, but like out of conde, who knows what the fuck he's referring to here? And there was also probably another lyric, got your little sister on the Molly, she done ran through the whole squad, Like, I'm sure you just didn't randomly think that at eleven am.

00:32:28
Speaker 5: It's probably a lyric.

00:32:32
Speaker 1: There was like a Miley Cyrus one that kept popping up like he was like, no, that was mac Maine, That was mac Maine.

00:32:38
Speaker 2: That was mac mahon. That was his rollout about Yeah, his rollout was Miley Cyrus starting eighteen. That was nasty. Yeah. Anyways, though, like aside from this conversation that I mean, I'm glad we had, but was weird. I don't think anyone else is gonna have that combo, and I'm happy we did. But where does this go now? Now that we're talking about the rebrand and how he's gonna come back, Paul, is Drake putting out more music? I fully believe that he is not done here. I think he saw the reply.

00:33:07
Speaker 4: To do you think Drake is never gonna put out music in you?

00:33:09
Speaker 6: No?

00:33:09
Speaker 2: I mean in regards to this, oh like direct, not just mentioning it on an album. I think he saw the reaction to Hart Part six. I don't think he feels the best about Hart Part six because I don't think he felt great making it. I can hear it knowing Drake and how he still holds on. He just pushed three years after he said he was done, like unwarranted for no reason, just because that's who Drake is. And I like my rappers petty, and I like them to never forget shit right. I think we have a lot more Drake music on the way very soon.

00:33:39
Speaker 4: I think that's a fair assumption. I mean, I think that in this moment, artists of these two their caliber, I think this only gets them inspired creatively, and I think their minds are just on a on a wheel. They're thinking, they're writing, they're listening to a bunch of different music, they're creating obviously records. So yeah, I think that I think that this energy rolls over into.

00:34:07
Speaker 2: Album EP.

00:34:11
Speaker 4: Something like that, definitely with some of this energy still attached to it. I think that. I just think that I think the sequence and the cadence of this thing changed, and I believe Drake is no longer like, all right, I don't care what he's doing over there. I'm gonna make this. I'm gonna make what I'm making. I'm going to create when i'm creating, and I'm going to drop that when I want to drop it, regardless of what he's doing. So he could put out two, three, four five records this week, this is over.

00:34:44
Speaker 2: I'm over here creating this. So kind of what Kendrick's strategy was.

00:34:49
Speaker 4: I don't know if that was Kendrick's strategy. I think Kendrick obviously prepped. Again, going back to the beginning of this thing, we knew that Kendrick had his tour was over in twenty twenty two. I believe he hasn't been really active since then, so he obviously had more time to prep for this thing. He had more time to think about it and to think about other different angles and how he was going to come out of this, parlay that into his album and things like that. I think that Drake, coming off of tour and jumping right into this, like I said, he would have to become a different person because this is a battle mode. This is not just Drake creating songs that he thinks the world is going to love and accept. This is tailored for exactly specific individuals. It's a different energy that comes with this music. And I think that he's still in that mode of creating. I just think that he's not no longer releasing it as This is a shot, This is a missive director. This is gonna be a this is gonna be a complete thing. Because even if you listen to Family Matters, Family Matters sounds like a record that would be on a Drake album or Drake project. The beat, for sure, you know what I mean, Like the music changing up the way it did, that sounds very That sounds very familiar coming from Drake.

00:35:59
Speaker 2: I'm not even saying battle mode per se or timing. I'm saying Kendrick's strategy of no matter what Drake says or does, I'm sticking to what I'm doing over here. After family matters came out, Meet the Graham seven minutes later, No matter what he says after that.

00:36:15
Speaker 4: It mattered what he said. It definitely mattered what he said.

00:36:19
Speaker 2: It goes back to our conversation.

00:36:21
Speaker 4: He wasn't working. That's that's why Not Like Us came.

00:36:24
Speaker 2: It did its culpose to it stepped on him and amazing, but that's all it did. Music, but you did You to our conversation last episode Drake over explaining gay validity. We have not even really addressed Kendrick's allegations because he won't. He's focused on what he's doing. No matter what Drake says, I'm putting out not like Us, No matter what I'm putting on me the gramds, I don't even need to hear what he's saying. I'm not going to talk about Dave, Free, not gonna talk about my wife. I'm only focused on what I'm doing and my ship about you. So I think, yes, Drake should take that strategy. Don't be so reactive, stick to your plan of what you want to do. Because clearly Kendrick's not addressing anything, and Kendrick, I'm sorry, and Drake is, which has made him look more guilty. Unfortunately. I'm just I'm giving you perception and so what So what you're saying with Drake going taking a minute and maybe doing an EP or an album or whatever that's focused on. I don't give a fuck what Kendrick is saying or doing. I'm gonna do my shit. I'm gonna shoot at him and focus on my music. That's the strategy Kendrick had. That's where I think Drake should have stayed after push ups. I think he should have gotten in his mode of what he thought was he should have done, even though I can feel feel for him. If somebody called me a pedal, I'd be sitting there like, well, new strategy. But if he stayed focused, that's the you keep asking why no one is looking for evidence or is pushing on Kendrick, like, Yo, how come he hasn't addressing this If you've seen with every record he has not paid attention to one thing Drake has said and stayed with the records that he had recorded already. This is this is my strategy going in fucking horse Blinders on I'm just gonna post what I have and it.

00:38:06
Speaker 3: Worked, And last night Drake posted this to his story.

00:38:14
Speaker 6: Maybe we.

00:38:20
Speaker 2: Shout out to Jeff das Man, even the Monsters born.

00:38:32
Speaker 3: So it's it's an it's a sequence from a show on Netflix that's basically it's about a real estate mogul that faces bankruptcy, political and business uh interests colliding, and it's pretty much him defending his empire until the end. So with no caption, Drake posts this and and people are saying, and this is what I not people what I believe. I think he saw the public opinion, saw that he's losing this. Here's don't and he notices how big don't like us has gotten not like us A pardon it and uh, he's he needs to. He's not going to make the same mistake he made with PUSHA. He has to double that.

00:39:06
Speaker 5: You have to go at him.

00:39:07
Speaker 3: You can't disappear and let the If you let the public call it, you lost. And I don't think he wants to leave it up for people to make that decision. I think he wants to take matters into his own hands. Either win or go down with the ship with the whole home burning.

00:39:21
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you can't say this is over the line.

00:39:24
Speaker 1: Now.

00:39:24
Speaker 2: That's why I'm not replying because you did that the last time and the line when no disrespect to forty. I hope your health is great, but this is a way crazier line than mocking ms.

00:39:36
Speaker 4: But did who oh double y'all have said y'all felt like he was waving a white flag on the halt part six because I never felt like I didn't think that. I feel like y'all said that Monday.

00:39:46
Speaker 2: No that I felt like he said that in so many words.

00:39:49
Speaker 1: Yeah, a few people that was the theory because he said you can go ahead drop at them songs you want to drop, like basically like you break.

00:39:57
Speaker 2: The out, Yeah, like do what you gotta do, Okay, I'm gonna be oble on vacation, like yeah, getting burnt out?

00:40:02
Speaker 3: Is burnt by his tone that And there were like three separate lines on that song in itself where he was like yeah, and I mean.

00:40:10
Speaker 2: I think that could also be a strategy. When I heard it the first time, I was like, Oh, is this his way of kind of doing a psych type of thing to make it look like this is done. Kendrick can relax. Go shoot your not like us video. Go focus on that while I plot over here to make it look like I'm done. I could see that being a strategy. I thought he outright made it seem like, yo, I'm done with this. This was some fun exercise, which was a crazy line to me, like getting the pen working?

00:40:40
Speaker 4: Was it crating long?

00:40:42
Speaker 2: Yeah? It all of it felt nasty.

00:40:45
Speaker 4: This is what you asked for.

00:40:45
Speaker 2: Now you're like, oh, yeah, I guess thanks for coming to the court, Like I don't want.

00:40:48
Speaker 4: To, Like I said, I think the cadence of it is what was like, we're waiting for you. You drop, I dropped, I dropped, You dropped, and you drop again. And it's like, because at some point you got to ask yourself, are we supposed to just keep? How long is this supposed to keep? Like you drop a record, I drop a record, You drop a record, you drop two records, I drop two records? How long we're supposed to do that?

00:41:08
Speaker 2: But you would you feel that way if it was flipped. Let's say Drake looked like the victor. Would you be like, well, yeah, I mean it's over now.

00:41:16
Speaker 4: No, I still would feel because again, if we're talking about a rap battle. This has been the most like we've we haven't seen records I think come like Paul's come like.

00:41:25
Speaker 2: This mainstream wise underground round.

00:41:27
Speaker 4: So it was kind of that's they do whatever the fun they want, but it's kind of.

00:41:31
Speaker 2: Other fucking hour. It's like goddamn.

00:41:33
Speaker 4: Yeah. So it's like this started to feel like that, and you know, artist of Drake's Max is like all right, I'm not going to entertain this but for so long, like what are we doing here?

00:41:41
Speaker 6: Like?

00:41:42
Speaker 4: So I think that was more so the feeling on Hard Part six was like all right, man, like I'm not gonna keep this isn't gonna go on for another month and a half, Like we're not gonna do this for another month. Like that's the feeling I got, not I'm waving a white flag. I give up, like I didn't. I never got that home from that record.

00:42:01
Speaker 2: Let's go back to I don't know two months ago when it was the Cole Kendrick Drake possibility and we all agreed that this was great because finally in rap, this will be a rap beef that won't go too far. Yeah, nobody's gonna get hurt, It'll stay on wax like, what a perfect time in hip hop, three elites, no one's gonna hurt anyone, everybody knows what tom it is. And then two days ago, Drake's house gets shot up. Do we think this has anything to do with the Kendrick and Drake beef or is this something else that was mentioned on push ups and family matters?

00:42:41
Speaker 4: I think this was I don't think. I'm not gonna I'm not gonna dismiss it totally not having anything to do with the beef that's currently going on, because the timing of it is just too you know, it's like you gotta kind of think that, think about that.

00:42:57
Speaker 2: The Kendrick theory sounds very far fetch, Yeah, but I'm not very far fa.

00:43:02
Speaker 4: But I can understand in the height of all of this is how somebody would think that and throw that into the mix, like, Yo, could this be a part of this whole Kendrick Drake shit?

00:43:10
Speaker 2: I understand, But those I don't believe people that think Biggie shot Tupac.

00:43:14
Speaker 4: Right, Like, I'm not one of those kids. But I can understand how easy it is for people to feel that. I think that this was, you know, just happened to be just a random somebody or some some people. It's not hard to figure out where Drake lives if you're from Toronto, and I think they just drove by his crib and just shot at it.

00:43:37
Speaker 6: I don't know.

00:43:37
Speaker 4: I don't think this was anything deeper than that.

00:43:41
Speaker 2: I feel like if like a stand or quote unquote clout chaser or someone along those lines would have made sure they filmed it so we knew they did it. I think only the crazy fan in this scenario would make sure that they could go to their stand account in that stand community and be like, yo, look what I'm the one that did So that's where I think this has nothing to do with Kendrick or some crazed fan, not some John Lennon. Shit'm not trying to save Drake from his innocence. I think it has a lot to do with an ongoing internal Toronto thing. I mean, we saw and this is headline news. We're not breaking anything. Cash from Xo's house was shot with last week in la who because in the Hills, that shit is crazy. It's happening all the time. So we don't know if that has to do with anything, but I can see this being more of a Toronto thing than it could ever be. Like, I don't think Kendrick, even though he said to Drake's mom, I hope he fucking dies. I don't really think Kendrick wants to harm him.

00:44:44
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, I don't get that. But I'm not one of those people that's putting this on this this beef thing. This is definitely something totally separate from that.

00:44:53
Speaker 2: But all right, let's speculate that it's an internal Toronto thing. We don't have to put names that anything at all. I'm asking you, as a civilian, what stat is that that you shot a security guard outside of a mega mansion? Like, what what type of stat are you getting?

00:45:11
Speaker 4: But you can't even talk about that stat Who can you even tell that stat?

00:45:14
Speaker 2: Too? And for what you did, you did nothing? Yeah, yeah, and prayers to on that security guard. I heard he is doing much better. Yeah, but he probably has a family. He's not sitting there trying to get fucking shot.

00:45:27
Speaker 4: Right, I don't. I don't think any of these gentlemen are trying to get shot.

00:45:31
Speaker 2: Or even involved in this. I'm guarding Drake's house. It's my job. Some petty back and forth shit, I had a crib, yeah, I don't know. I found it a little weird, and granted I don't know what happens behind the scenes. I know Toronto can get very fucking dicey in certain places and certain people.

00:45:49
Speaker 4: Absolutely, but what are we doing just shooting.

00:45:53
Speaker 2: People's security guard their mega mansion? Yeah, this is this is because of.

00:45:57
Speaker 4: Rap shit, right, yeah, this is this is where you know again, even though I don't think this has anything to do with the wrap the bee for the battle, but this is where things can quickly, the energy can change quickly and be like, oh shit, now this is something that we thought it wasn't gonna be, you know what I mean, Like you talked about somebody shooting up one of the biggest stars or shooting up one of the biggest stars in the world's house, Like that's fucking insane in itself.

00:46:25
Speaker 2: Can I give you my theory? And I don't want to put this on anyone that exos jacket or anything like that, but we saw the theories online Drake City have no shooters and then all of a sudden someone shot cool not anything that I'm bringing to the table. If this does disappear, I think that does give that theory a little bit more credence. That is a very wealthy neighborhood. There's a fucking ring camera on every last block. I don't care if they got a stolen car, different plates, they're going to figure out who the fuck did that?

00:46:55
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, without a doubt.

00:46:56
Speaker 2: And if it ties back to somebody's specifictly and it disappears, I think that's saying a lot. If we don't really hear from this and it doesn't end up being just some crazy kid that was just like yo, let me go do the ship so everyone knows my name, yeah, and there's some type of tie back to somebody else, to somebody else, somebody else to somebody else. I think we know who came from. And I see it disapearing. I don't know if we're gonna get. Don't think we're gonna get.

00:47:24
Speaker 5: I don't want to go.

00:47:24
Speaker 4: I don't want it to go that route. Like I hope, I hope it's not. I hope it's not, because that now we're just like all right, like we're back to this type of ship, you know what I mean? Like I don't I hope, So I hope it's not that.

00:47:34
Speaker 2: Do you think it was? Uh? Lucien Grange by himself shot Drake's Chris listen Man. We found out in paperwork that Jimmy Henchman went by himself during a banquet to shoot up Tony Yeo's mom's house. Anything is possible, like no, some of.

00:47:49
Speaker 4: These exact Yeah, but Jimmy, it is a difference that he was doing that before, way before the music ship like we ain't got wet told about.

00:47:57
Speaker 2: Eating that paperwork with some of the craziest, like everyone one knew there was a back and forth. Yeah, but when you read that paperwork from that snitch, they say, yeah, no, Jimmy left the banquet, say yo, tell him him in the bathroom. Yeah, and it came back to the banquet. Different type of god man. But did you see the other theory speaking I lution of of UMG trying to shut this down for Drake's sake, which I think this was debunked, but yeah it was. We definitely can speculate that UMG is having a lot of conversations of where they want to go with it. They're both UMG, right, yeah, well Kendrick is licensing, but.

00:48:31
Speaker 5: Still UMG.

00:48:32
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think I believe it. I could see why UMG would want to put it into this Definitely.

00:48:39
Speaker 2: I think they wanted to drag a little bit more because clearly it's profitable, But at what cost.

00:48:44
Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying. I definitely believe that UMG reached out to both parties and had a conversation with that conversation was about with it entailed? I don't know, but I think that UMG definitely, like why wouldn't they this is there, this is their business partners, Like, why wouldn't they want to intervene at some course, whether it's just to kind of gauge what's happening, what's going on, Like how long is this thing supposed to go? Like you know what I'm saying, Like, what's the energy? Is it turning into something else?

00:49:16
Speaker 2: Personal?

00:49:17
Speaker 4: Obviously things are being said that can then turn into something else that UMG will probably have to get behind and try to like fix. So I think that somebody from UMG definitely reached out and had conversations. Now whether or not they said oh stop or yo, chill or I don't.

00:49:35
Speaker 2: Think any of that.

00:49:36
Speaker 4: I think that UMG definitely reached out and had conversations with both parties to kind of just gauge this thing and understand exactly what's happening. How much longer is this supposed to go on?

00:49:47
Speaker 2: I'm not even curious of what like the high execs are talking about. More so that for those that don't know, all the divisions of UMG ended up in one building because the music industry is minimizing as far as employees go. So I would just love to see the person that is working the Not Like Us record. We're like, we're about to bring it to radio, and then someone from the PR team at Republicans like, you're gonna do what?

00:50:09
Speaker 6: Right?

00:50:10
Speaker 4: Yeah?

00:50:11
Speaker 2: We want to work a record that's gonna kill another one. Yeah, I want to know what that chaos looks like. But then again, UMG has had so many things on their jacket that they have not given a single funk about exactly. But this is this is we notice? Is this like Lucy might have walked in they called him a what a pedophile? If they called me that, I don't care. I mean they've been caught up in that whole before the Statute of Limitations? Did he was in it? Cos he was in it again Hm, UMG execs were in it too. This is nothing new. They've never really given a fuck about a moral standard. So I don't know if they care at all to end it.

00:50:50
Speaker 4: Nah, they definitely care to end it. I don't think that that's what that call was about. I think that that call was probably just a.

00:50:57
Speaker 2: Touch temperature check, where you gonna take it, what is going.

00:51:00
Speaker 4: What's happening. But I don't think that they're trying to intervene and stop because they feel like Drake is whatever they say, Drake is losing, so YUG jumped in to stop it. Like, I don't think that that's what happened. I think that these are both vested interests of YUG and they're just checking in on these artists.

00:51:17
Speaker 2: Is Drake compromise because he has even more invested interest with UMG. Let's say hypothetically, he finds real evidence, not just a chick from hard rock cafe talking about some Kendrick shit. He finds real evidence or real statements. Does he consult with UMG or just.

00:51:33
Speaker 4: Put it out?

00:51:34
Speaker 6: Now?

00:51:34
Speaker 5: He puts that out, you gotta put that shit out.

00:51:37
Speaker 2: Is that relationship because I'm sure Lucian and Drake are much closer than Kendrick and Lucian. We know it's a way different relationship there. Top probably has a better relationship with Lucian than Kendrick. I don't know if Drake does that right away. I really think he has to have some type of conversation with his partner. I think it's the opposite where it's.

00:52:00
Speaker 6: I think.

00:52:02
Speaker 4: Lucian hits him with the Jeweli in line.

00:52:03
Speaker 2: Come on, like, come on, it was just a distribute distribution deal.

00:52:10
Speaker 4: But come on, why would you put that out like that's I don't think Drake is hit. I'm talking about yo, I'm about to put this out and fucking you guys, he's gonna drop that ship and then the text messages and the emails will come in after that.

00:52:21
Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll get him some more therapy. We'll figure it out.

00:52:26
Speaker 3: Where it stands, I think Drake's dropping next. Do you guys have any thoughts on like what's to come in terms of like releases, I think.

00:52:36
Speaker 2: Similar to what well, I think, well, not to cut you over, to cut you off.

00:52:41
Speaker 4: I think that. I don't think Kendrick is dropping anything because not like us as what they're working right now.

00:52:47
Speaker 2: I think he's shooting the video. I think he has clips ready in case Drake drops, But but he's not.

00:52:52
Speaker 4: He's not releasing anything until I think he's ready.

00:52:55
Speaker 3: He doesn't need to drop because he's clearly up. So I think it's in Drake's court.

00:52:59
Speaker 2: Still, I don't think Drake is dumb enough to think one record could change this. I think he's recording multiple and he's gonna drop all those at the same time. I don't think Drake handles criticism well, which I think is why he's such a great artist. After For All the Dogs, he got a lot of flack, said I was done, walked back in, said, Noel, I'm not retired anymore. Here's seven more fucking conductor records. And guess what won me the fuck over Immediately I did not like for the Dog. For All the Dogs, that scary hour shit is incredible to me won me over, Like, all right, I was wrong, I'm sorry. Yeah, I think that's probably the only way. When I've been thinking about this the past few days when people weren't dropping, I was like, all right, Drake's probably recording three songs a day and he's gonna pick the best. However many of that and we are gonna get a whole package of records, and then Kendrick's gonna have to deal with that, and I think Drake is gonna have two just on the side, just in case. Yeah, one's gonna have a hit.

00:53:57
Speaker 4: Changing the cadence of the thing, of this whole thing. Yeah, I think is what Drake is is going to do next. Just change it. Like you said, focus on what he's doing when he's working. Fuck if Kendrick is putting out records, and when he's putting them out, you go in your in your bat cave, create your your your piece of art and give it to the people and you feel like it's done and you're ready to give.

00:54:20
Speaker 2: It to people before we move on. Because I know it's been almost an hour, but this is what the fuck is happening.

00:54:26
Speaker 5: Yeah, this is anyone's complaining.

00:54:28
Speaker 2: I wanted to uh, I wanted to bring up a theory last episode. I forgot, but I did tweet it. Do you think there is a world where the mole is actually the opposite and Drake was fed misinformation about the Dave Free and Whitney Kids situation?

00:54:47
Speaker 4: Mm hmmm, No, I think you got your aluminum for long.

00:54:50
Speaker 2: But no, because where does one find out that information. I'm speculating because I could see a world where somebody could feed that to Drake because it sounds like fucking ridiculous.

00:55:03
Speaker 4: Yeah, but what if this is something that he's known or heard for a few years true. I mean, I know everyone speaks with them and somebody said the mole three years ago. But I do think Drake, even though I've been giving him shit, is calculated and doesn't really move on shit unless he knows it to be a fact. I think he's proven that in his career and done very well at it. I think he would need more than just industry gossip to be like, yo, no, that's not the fact that he was sitting on that and that was his nuke and he thought it was going to go better than what it did. I feel like maybe a mutual friend could have confirmed that to Drake with the purpose to mislead him. I think that's part of why this whole the perception of who's up, who's winning or not right now is because I think Drake is operating off of that, like I'm not saying shit unless I know.

00:55:51
Speaker 5: It's a fact.

00:55:52
Speaker 2: Yeah, where in a rapt people don't even.

00:55:56
Speaker 4: Care about what the facts are. Yeah, it's just whatever they think sounds good or whatever. Sticks, whatever sticks, you know, people looking for a reason to like, yeah, fuck him, we never liked him anyway, whatever it is. I think that that's what matters more to Beef. I think that in a in a honorable but like maybe not so beneficially. I think Drake still was approaching this with integrity, like I'm not gonna.

00:56:20
Speaker 2: Shoot integrity with inter rapt battle with them. I'm gonna say some wild shit about you, but at least.

00:56:24
Speaker 4: It's true, but it's gonna be true. You're gonna say wild shit about me that's not true, but people are gonna, you know, sing to it and jump up and down to it. Okay, cool, whatever. That's where I think this is. I think that he had a little integrity, a little a little bit of more morals and saying I'm not gonna put something on somebody if I don't have enough to believe that this is one hundred percent truth.

00:56:46
Speaker 2: And I'm in the middle of that where I don't know who's telling the truth. I think both people need to prove it or both people don't. Like I don't know these people. I'm not gonna say one side is saying facts and one isn't. Because I really have no fucking idea. I'm on all right, this is sticking and this is not sticking. I really don't know, y'all.

00:57:00
Speaker 4: Yeah.

00:57:01
Speaker 3: And on the other end of that, one of Kendrick's friends from Compton, who's featured on to Pimp a Butterfly the album cover, did respond to your clip, Mall and say that not only confirmed that there's a daughter, but she just celebrated her birthday. They have photos of her, but they're worried for her safety to put any information about and about her.

00:57:19
Speaker 4: Wait what Yeah, somebody that was on Kendrick's album cover.

00:57:23
Speaker 1: I think it's Trew.

00:57:24
Speaker 2: No, they were talking to Trow. They were talking to he said Drake has a daughter.

00:57:29
Speaker 3: They're still they're tripling down. They're confirming that it's true, but it's more of like we don't want to put it out for a safety issue.

00:57:35
Speaker 2: Do you want to play the clip?

00:57:37
Speaker 5: Yeah, we can play it.

00:57:39
Speaker 3: There you go because they play Moss clip in it, So I'll skip, Mall and he's going for it.

00:57:47
Speaker 2: Runs being gains for years. You're not married yet, you living.

00:57:51
Speaker 3: In New York, She's not.

00:57:54
Speaker 4: Let's look real love your old daughter talking about.

00:57:58
Speaker 2: I really don't think this is craziest. You made it out to be a better is probably the best song is okay.

00:58:08
Speaker 1: No problem.

00:58:13
Speaker 6: See that's when we gotta get ahead.

00:58:16
Speaker 1: He said, you gotta get down.

00:58:17
Speaker 2: I don't think they was really being serious to the world.

00:58:22
Speaker 6: That girl just had a birthday. That saw all I'm gonna say.

00:58:25
Speaker 2: And that ain't her in the video. We know that already.

00:58:29
Speaker 4: He didn't break nothing with that.

00:58:31
Speaker 2: What's the video?

00:58:33
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, no, no, I think he's addressing like when you said that he had pictures of the little girl like trolling you in the video when it was like those pictures have been there for years.

00:58:46
Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't want to cut you off because she was cooking, But that was debunked. Those those photos had been at that spot since twenty twenty one. That was so that wasn't like an easter egg of like that's the girl.

00:58:57
Speaker 4: Okay, but they're six thing corrected, But.

00:59:00
Speaker 2: They're suggesting that the girl does exist and she just had her eleventh birthdays.

00:59:13
Speaker 4: Do you ever realize that these are all California niggas? Of course it's back on fig they're supposed to look like he's supposed to.

00:59:19
Speaker 2: Direcord shout out to t roup, of course, but I mean they're they're close to TDE and are suggesting that that's not cap Like, no matter what Drake says, everybody is aware within that circle. And I'm not saying Kendrick couldn't be feeding people the same ship the same way. We've accused Drake of feeding the media with certain narratives. I think Kendrick's been doing it too. I think they've all been using bots. They could be feeding fig that information. I don't know, but they are suggesting that that is one percent true. I also just don't think it's just as crazy as everyone else, because I think a superstar could have an eleven year old kid he doesn't know about.

00:59:56
Speaker 3: I don't think so, especially when he already like it's not just the it's not just the bomb, it's like it comes with weight to it, Like he already did the route of hiding a kid, Like there's plausible, it makes sense.

01:00:10
Speaker 5: He didn't want why wouldn't do it again kid?

01:00:12
Speaker 4: Though he did, he did not know if that kid was his during that battle, Like I don't understand how y'all not comprehended.

01:00:19
Speaker 2: I think he knew in the middle of a paternity.

01:00:21
Speaker 5: Had bro what do you point matter.

01:00:25
Speaker 3: By the time we learned who a Donnas was, he was how like, why wouldn't this ev all been figured out long before then?

01:00:31
Speaker 5: Why did it all spark because Pusha t named like got some info.

01:00:34
Speaker 4: It didn't spark.

01:00:35
Speaker 2: It was going on.

01:00:36
Speaker 4: It was a it was a paternity who going on. He was trying to figure out if that was just kid or not. That was information that was given to a woman that had a relationship with Pusha as well. But he did not know definitively if that was his kid or not yet, Like, I just don't understand how people don't know that part of it, Like.

01:00:53
Speaker 2: I don't know the timing of that. I thought he knew at that point, but it was just not ready to tell everyone, which which would have been fine, Which would have been fine, And like fine, I said last episode he may know about this eleven year old it could be true, and had an agreement with that child's mother that this one is going to be hidden. I don't want anything to do with what the fuck is going on with your life right now?

01:01:11
Speaker 4: Yeah, I just I don't see that if you have a kid at this point, what does it matter if you have another kid?

01:01:17
Speaker 2: Because that mother or that side of the family could be like, Nah, be part of her life, but we don't want to be in the mix of this entire thing. We don't want to get caught up in this. Be in her life, but don't promote it.

01:01:30
Speaker 4: I just feel like this dude is too big of a star for people not to know if he really has a kid or that. I just don't see. I don't see you being able to hide that for eleven years, twelve years. I just don't see that.

01:01:41
Speaker 2: Bruce Jenner did it for as long as I can remember, I didn't even know he had a whole other family.

01:01:47
Speaker 4: Yeah, but you also not Bruce Jenna is not a fucking the star the size of either.

01:01:51
Speaker 2: He ran away from that family immediately.

01:01:55
Speaker 4: I see what I get it.

01:01:57
Speaker 2: I was probably like eight, I think I think Bruce said became Caitlyn. When I found out, I was like, oh, he has like seven other kids.

01:02:07
Speaker 3: About Brodie shout off to Brudy. And that's because like Eve put a camera in, you're part of this ship too.

01:02:13
Speaker 2: Putting shit together here.

01:02:15
Speaker 4: No we're not putting it together.

01:02:17
Speaker 2: No, you're not seeing them no, Okay, But I just think that right down the street from Kyle Brake has a twelve year old daughter.

01:02:26
Speaker 4: Well, I just I just don't know. I don't see that. I don't see that being real. I've seen no star that big being able to hide a kid for twelve years. I don't see that.

01:02:35
Speaker 6: What.

01:02:36
Speaker 4: I just don't see it, especially when you already have one that people thought you was hiding. You think they wouldn't have been found that other one by.

01:02:41
Speaker 2: Now, okay, let's let's go off the rumors of Hove paying certain people to just keep.

01:02:46
Speaker 4: It on the wraps my rumors and ship. I just it's not the National Inquirer, Bro, I'm not quitt entertained gossip and shipped on fucking random blogs.

01:02:55
Speaker 2: Bro, that's not real. But what if the kid looks just like and it's from like the sameighborhood.

01:03:01
Speaker 4: I can't m'tain shit like that, Bro. I don't read the National Acquirement I don't.

01:03:05
Speaker 2: I don't know if that was in the inquire per se, but what maybe page six.

01:03:09
Speaker 4: Definitely an empire page six?

01:03:17
Speaker 2: All right, Well, the future remains to be seen. Bad segue, terrible, But I mean we're looking forward to see what happens with the Drake and Kendrick thing. But then we're moving on to Future and Gunner. So I was doing a news segue.

01:03:28
Speaker 4: I got the future.

01:03:29
Speaker 2: I got it when sch everyone over your head, No no, wait, everyone's been breaking down lyrics. I wasn't sure. I don't need it. You don't need a rob marketing for this one.

01:03:36
Speaker 5: There was a gun at Drake's house, but.

01:03:40
Speaker 4: You said, na see. I thought it was all right.

01:03:47
Speaker 2: Anyways, Future and Gunnar are going back and forth. Oh god, how did this start? This is not my expertise, so I'm coming in here without information.

01:03:55
Speaker 4: This is what happens when you know beef is going on, or like you know, battle is happening. Then you get people in the crowd that's be like yo, but what he laughing and he laughing too hard. Yeah, it's that type of ship.

01:04:07
Speaker 6: This is that.

01:04:07
Speaker 2: Don't insert myself into this, which, by the way, side note we have to talk about I do want to see a game and Ross go back and forth, but neither here nor there. I do on records. We predicted that years and years and years ago. Yeah, I don't know, and we can finally settle our dispute. I don't know if we game game is gonna tear him up. And I love Ross, but yeah, I would uh, Game different, bro, and the Ross can make better music. I'm not arguing that. Yeah, but that's a different arena. Game is gonna tear Ross apart. You see, Ross has been quiet. He'll be loud with Drake, but with Game now Ross Ross is old enough.

01:04:49
Speaker 4: I want to see that, you guys think so, just so we could get some some some game records with that energy on it.

01:04:55
Speaker 2: You guys think Kendrick dropping four songs in two days, what's crazy?

01:04:59
Speaker 4: Yeah?

01:05:00
Speaker 2: Game is going to drop fifty records in one day.

01:05:03
Speaker 6: Yeah.

01:05:03
Speaker 2: He's been writing about Ross his whole career, his whole life. So I actually hope to see that one manifest itself on record.

01:05:13
Speaker 4: It'll be good to get some game, some game records.

01:05:16
Speaker 2: And listen Game. This is people for no reason. If he has a reason, it's going to go left.

01:05:20
Speaker 4: Yeah.

01:05:22
Speaker 2: Anyways, though, can someone inform me about this gun in future thing? This is not my wheelhouse? What I thought they were friends. I thought Atlanta was. Kendrick said Atlanta's altogether. He said that they're all there for to just take the sauce.

01:05:35
Speaker 4: Yeah I didn't. I didn't know what this U. I didn't know about this until Julian walked in.

01:05:39
Speaker 3: This is like residual falling out from the Thug trial, and I think Our Future is caught up and feels a way about Gunna being out while Thug remains in this situation.

01:05:49
Speaker 5: I think there's still some division amongst that whole crew.

01:05:52
Speaker 2: Why didn't he just say that before them? Because he has a mixtape coming out and Gunn has an album, he's gonna say, why didn't you say it before?

01:05:58
Speaker 4: And they're both dropping to.

01:06:00
Speaker 1: Night's even pr Yeah, yeah, to me.

01:06:04
Speaker 4: They're both dropping tonight.

01:06:06
Speaker 2: They're probably friends. This is probably nothing. So Gunn is fine with all the Thug is inside jokes and was like Future just say something, I'll say something back. I think this is behind the scenes bullshit.

01:06:19
Speaker 4: I mean, I wouldn't say bullshit, but it's not gonna hurt the situation.

01:06:25
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think they are in kahots as the Whites would say.

01:06:30
Speaker 4: I don't know about cahoots because I don't think Future Future doesn't need that, not right now.

01:06:37
Speaker 2: Nor it is Gunna. But I think they're both a little worried if these were the release dates, what they're have to have to deal with the fact that they're dropping music right now. Is brave of them with not knowing what's about to happen between Drake and Kendrick. I wouldn't drop an R and B song right now. I wouldn't drop shit. Taylor is shook right now.

01:06:57
Speaker 5: Damn she's still number one.

01:06:58
Speaker 4: Yeah, she's not losing no sleep over this shit.

01:07:01
Speaker 2: Taylor Swift would have definitely moved her album release if it was happening this Friday.

01:07:07
Speaker 4: Nah, why she would have moved it?

01:07:10
Speaker 2: I think this is pretty fucking big. With Kendrick and Drake going back and forth. I think this is the only thing that could ever get If Taylor.

01:07:16
Speaker 4: Had some woman out tonight, you think she would move it.

01:07:19
Speaker 2: I think she would have been moved it if they had that on the calendar before we knew.

01:07:22
Speaker 3: Didn't her album come out the same day as Futures and Metros that started this whole thing?

01:07:27
Speaker 5: Pretty sure?

01:07:28
Speaker 2: Well, what point would that be?

01:07:29
Speaker 4: No, I'm just saying I don't think it was the same day now. I don't think even if it was, who cares. I'm saying two different audiences.

01:07:36
Speaker 2: If Taylor had this date and had not announced it, I think she would step back for a second.

01:07:43
Speaker 4: It's a lot going on, I don't think so. I don't think her audiences at all impacted by what's going on.

01:07:49
Speaker 5: Well, looking at Gunna's track list, we have what do we have here?

01:07:53
Speaker 3: Twenty records, a couple of features, few features, one from Offset and then Leon Bridges in a Roddy Rich feature. Roddy Rich features out in Normani as well.

01:08:06
Speaker 1: I missed him me too.

01:08:07
Speaker 2: I like Roddy, but he just had a few duds. And I don't mean that disrespectfully. He said they were duds. I've been waiting for some new Roddy music. I think it's possible to put out a dud and still be great. H So I'm excited to hear that the Roddy joint.

01:08:21
Speaker 1: It's also hard to when your debut album is that good with that many hits, it's hard to top it.

01:08:27
Speaker 2: I mean the second one just fell flat, like it just wasn't good, which he said in an interview. I'm glad he took this time to just step aside and make people miss him. But Gunna coming back this quick is it's kind of crazy interesting. Yeah, just say the least. I mean, I'm sure he was just a mixtape though, right, No Future Huguers put out fucking three three albums in two months. Yeah, he's cooking, But he's one of those that I think has a thousand records on his hard drive that he forgot about and then one night they plug it in and we're like, oh, we should put this out.

01:08:59
Speaker 4: Yeah, let's just let's just empty this out.

01:09:01
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I think a mixtape makes sense. I think doing the second joint with Metro was also clearing out what they had. Let's just get the rest of the shit out the way.

01:09:10
Speaker 6: Yeah.

01:09:11
Speaker 2: So I don't know. I mean, not really mine my thing, but I'm going to listen.

01:09:14
Speaker 3: I do think it's safe to say at some point there will be some shots directed Drake's way from the Future mixtape.

01:09:22
Speaker 2: I don't know, because I feel like what Drake said on Family Matters deaded their beef. I don't think I think we're going to get Future in Drake music soon. He said on the Look, We've never had a real issue. It was someone else in his ear, and we know Drake to be very petty, so I feel like they had a full conversation on the phone already in him and Future are in a great place.

01:09:43
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean that was the one person through this all that I always said. It seems like the door and the opportunity are still open for them to still work together future.

01:09:51
Speaker 2: Sorry for going back to Kendrick, but since we're on Atlanta artists and speaking not like us, do you think any Atlanta artists took that offensively?

01:10:00
Speaker 4: Took what offensively when he was.

01:10:01
Speaker 2: Trying to break down that Drake goes to Atlanta to just grab from the culture and take it back. Do you think anyone from Atlanta would take that offensively? Like you think we just let Drake come down here and steal our sauce and then leave. Even was like yo, two Chains knows it, but he won't say it. Like, if I'm an Atlanta artist, I could see how someone could get offended at that. You're saying, Drake just came down here and robbed us and then left, and we just sitting here like, no, we like Drake.

01:10:28
Speaker 4: It's because it wasn't true. It's not what he did.

01:10:30
Speaker 2: But I'm saying, as an Atlanta artist, I could see someone shooting back of Kendrick, the fuck are you talking about? We didn't let him do anything.

01:10:37
Speaker 4: Nah, I'm not shooting back because of that. I don't think that's that warrants you to shoot back because you didn't like that in line, Like I mean, you could say something getting a booth and make a record based around that. That's just like, all right now somebody else wants to jump in on this shit, and it's just that's when I'm off it. At that point, I'm just like, once that starts happening, I'm cool.

01:10:56
Speaker 2: I think Kendrick got lucky on how that was perceived because he had the momentum and because it was Drake and everyone couldn't wait to call him a culture vulture. That could have went another way, knowing Atlanta and the pride that they have that they is well fucking deserved the Atlanta pride to say, some Canadian came down here, stole our sauce and left it like what you're trying to say about us? Yeah, that scheme could have went the way to sit back and watch that. Yeah, like what the fuck? Atlanta would never let that happen.

01:11:21
Speaker 4: Yeah. No, So I don't know, which is why that was just crazy to begin with. But I get this about him say say whatever, fuck it.

01:11:27
Speaker 2: Well, either way, the gun of Future beef is not one I'm really looking towards now.

01:11:32
Speaker 4: Hold on now because when it was gun and Thugs album coming out around the same time, we see where everybody stood on on on which side was the better project? Who do you think we had a better project? Future or Gunner.

01:11:46
Speaker 2: Gunn again, because I think it's clearing the hard drive out after the last two metro albums. I don't think it's a fair comparison. I think it's gonna be a lot of throwaway joints on this Future mixtape and Gunna, I think put together an album, So I'm gonna go with gun I just don't think it's a fair fight.

01:12:03
Speaker 4: I don't know, man, Future.

01:12:05
Speaker 2: I like Gunn's last album was fire, No it was, But I mean, you think he's coming back this quick with some bullshit.

01:12:11
Speaker 4: I think when Future has the opportunity to just make a mixtape and like just let records go and there's no like, I mean, it's still a direction, it's still like you know, but it's not so overthought. It's just like joints here. Yeah, I think that's tough to that's tough to beat when you talk about just a mixtape of Future records that he just put together.

01:12:35
Speaker 2: Nah, does one of one have the producers yet? On Wikipedia? Because Maul had a very interesting point at the beginning of this entire thing when Gunner came out. We saw that that clip and Maul had said, Yo, I don't know who in Atlanta is gonna work with him, like fuck with the public things. Is he gonna get features from people in Atlanta? Is he gonna work with Atlanta producers?

01:12:55
Speaker 4: Yeah?

01:12:55
Speaker 2: Now that A Gift and a Curse went crazy, he had a number one record, seems like people are starting to like Gunnarmore.

01:13:03
Speaker 4: You just want to eat man niggas, so get that beat shit. But it's like your fam we could bust a bag together, nigga. I don't care about none of that.

01:13:10
Speaker 2: I see Normani, I see Leon Bridges, I see where he's trying to go with different sounds. But who's the producers on?

01:13:16
Speaker 3: Yeah, on the next one, well we only it doesn't say on the next one, but on his return, Turbo was definitely it seemed to be the most involved with these records. So and he looks like he's on at least the single one of the singles that came out for this upcoming one. But to your point, with a quick turnaround, This album, A Gift in the Curse came out June sixteenth last year, so not even a year.

01:13:39
Speaker 5: We're getting another album.

01:13:41
Speaker 2: And one that connected. Usually people do that when shit doesn't connect, right, So I'm looking forward to it.

01:13:47
Speaker 4: I like Gunna. I mean, you know, it remains to be seen if we got to completely do away with him.

01:13:52
Speaker 2: He made Demerius cry at the Barclay Center.

01:13:55
Speaker 4: That was cry what happened?

01:13:57
Speaker 2: Oh no, you said someone was crying?

01:13:58
Speaker 1: Well, like, like, get your narratives, bro, we record this.

01:14:02
Speaker 2: Didn't you say you were crying or someone.

01:14:04
Speaker 5: Was said you said it shed a tear?

01:14:07
Speaker 2: Oh?

01:14:07
Speaker 1: I think I did.

01:14:08
Speaker 2: I'm not making it up.

01:14:09
Speaker 1: I think I might have said I was emotional like seeing his return and everybody like excepting go like that. Possibly, I don't know. I'm open to being wrong, but it was a good show.

01:14:22
Speaker 5: Crying.

01:14:22
Speaker 4: Mean, it's crazy, that's like this, this person needs some therapy. You're crying to funk. You mean, it's like, what's going on?

01:14:31
Speaker 2: I mean, but what do you mean?

01:14:32
Speaker 4: But like, what's going on?

01:14:34
Speaker 1: Asked?

01:14:34
Speaker 4: What's going on in the house?

01:14:36
Speaker 2: I was gonna say, I mean, that is the the entire point of therapy.

01:14:42
Speaker 3: What do you mean?

01:14:43
Speaker 2: And sometimes it's fucking mean. Yeah it is a therapist. Yeah, yeah, I get it.

01:14:51
Speaker 4: Done.

01:14:51
Speaker 2: This show is fucking creepy, like what you could have stayed home.

01:14:57
Speaker 4: No, that's the people that need to be like crying, ship out in the crib and the shower somewhere. But like, don't come to the Barclays with the cries. Oh please, Gunner, come on, man.

01:15:07
Speaker 2: You definitely cried when Osquino came out one time.

01:15:10
Speaker 5: One time.

01:15:11
Speaker 4: Wow, to think that, to think one time, what song would it be?

01:15:17
Speaker 2: I was not my tears?

01:15:18
Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly tell me.

01:15:19
Speaker 2: Yeah, fucking crime crazy. Did you guys watch the greatest roast of all time? Tom Brady? I watch it live to highlight as someone that has watched pretty much every roast that was on Comedy Central, I was nervous when they titled it this way. I agree with them. This was the greatest roast that ever.

01:15:36
Speaker 5: Yeah, this is amazing, three hours.

01:15:37
Speaker 4: Long, the greatest. Though you haven't seen all the roast to say this is the greatest.

01:15:41
Speaker 2: I've seen sets that are like the greatest. I mean, you could get down to Jamie Fox on roast, but as Pat Patrice was on.

01:15:53
Speaker 4: Oh God, whose roast was that?

01:15:55
Speaker 2: William Shatner. No, William Shatner might have just been there, am I.

01:16:02
Speaker 1: Charlie Sheen, Oh now that was the greatest roast of all time.

01:16:05
Speaker 2: Charlie Sheen one was crazy. Pam Anderson one was crazy. Rob Low was hilarious. Rob the Trump one was man that could have been funnier.

01:16:13
Speaker 5: D Biebers was very good.

01:16:15
Speaker 2: Bieber's was good. But I don't know when you get into like the Greg Giraldo Patrese O'Neill face, that's different. Franco's was pretty funny.

01:16:24
Speaker 3: Yeah, I love this one, but I think this one, this one was crazy. Yeah, I mean at the high Blood couldn't have picked a better time to put him into the fire.

01:16:33
Speaker 4: Oh my god.

01:16:35
Speaker 2: And no one laughed at my two and a half men joke I made on the last podcast.

01:16:38
Speaker 1: We probably didn't catch it was a lot of screaming.

01:16:40
Speaker 2: Dave Free and Kendrick with the kid two and a half men.

01:16:42
Speaker 1: Oh, I thought that.

01:16:45
Speaker 2: Got it. I get gold. I mean, it's not funny if you have to repeat it, but that is law. I lost I lost sleep about it.

01:16:53
Speaker 3: Me and Cole almost made.

01:17:00
Speaker 4: Dreamville festival.

01:17:02
Speaker 2: I saw him at the beach. I saw him at the beach.

01:17:06
Speaker 3: You guys, I liked it.

01:17:07
Speaker 2: I liked his briefcase with the laptop.

01:17:09
Speaker 5: Beating your wives and being paddles. Look at our king, Oh my god, beach life.

01:17:13
Speaker 4: That's like, who took the photo?

01:17:15
Speaker 2: Who's who's that with him?

01:17:16
Speaker 5: Why?

01:17:16
Speaker 1: I think the girl with somebody?

01:17:19
Speaker 5: Stop?

01:17:19
Speaker 3: I think the girl somebody?

01:17:20
Speaker 2: I think he was or was that one of those time cameras with the tripod? I'm shot though, smart on his jacket, get him into the beach, someone said. Someone said, why I love like call fit. They're so obnoxious. Someone said, now, Drake, this is how you take photos with an underage girl?

01:17:38
Speaker 5: What exactly? Like? Why bring that up?

01:17:40
Speaker 4: Fucking insane?

01:17:42
Speaker 2: I hate the internet so much. Hello, anyways, Oh.

01:17:45
Speaker 4: Would be on a beach with a fucking laptop and a briefcase? Yeah, maybe exactly what Cole would be doing.

01:17:51
Speaker 2: You don't think that'd be a great place to write.

01:17:53
Speaker 4: No, that's it. That's what I'm saying. That's exactly what he would be doing.

01:17:56
Speaker 2: I'm sure Grade thirty two came out came out of that and time. Oh no, for sure.

01:18:00
Speaker 4: Whatever that ship is plugged into. I know it's some ship for sure.

01:18:04
Speaker 2: Writing without Wi Fi, you know, it's crazy.

01:18:06
Speaker 4: But it's crazy because I don't want to hear that ship.

01:18:09
Speaker 5: Stop.

01:18:10
Speaker 4: I don't want to hear it.

01:18:11
Speaker 2: Talks about just reflecting on the beach, and I don't hear that ship.

01:18:14
Speaker 4: Man, I don't want to hear that ship. I just can't bro that's cold, man. That was we thought he was one of them.

01:18:21
Speaker 3: Man, It's just well, he picked a beautiful spot. This looks incredible.

01:18:24
Speaker 4: Oh no, it's a Listen, that's some super cool ship that he's doing. Let me be very clear, that is some some peaceful I'm chilling. I'm not with a bunch of niggas. I'm chilling. I'm not mad at that. But whatever he cooking up in that breath, I don't want to hear it, whatever he cooking up in that break in that breath, I don't want to hear what he he cooking up in that briefcase left.

01:18:45
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know they try to find what beach that is and shoot it up, you know, shooting up the beach you left.

01:18:54
Speaker 4: You know how upset you got to be to shoot up there?

01:18:56
Speaker 2: You know, you know somebody spray up those rocks for TikTok. Crazy, man, the fans are crazy. You know you haven't noticed that in the last.

01:19:03
Speaker 4: No, trust me, I know the last forty eight hours, I've noticed extremely how crazy.

01:19:09
Speaker 2: You're I think, I think crazy and saying do we own apology to the Barbs?

01:19:15
Speaker 4: Wow, No, I don't know the Lamas.

01:19:17
Speaker 2: I don't know, man, I'm just saying all of us, I think we wanted to look at.

01:19:22
Speaker 4: Those are all new recruits. These niggas ain't real. From the moment before, they just don't like Drake, you know, before that is, they just don't like Drake.

01:19:31
Speaker 2: Ain't real Kendrick fans before.

01:19:32
Speaker 1: The beef even started to happen. When like that dropped, the Lama fans came out like immediately know they he has a gang of them and they're the worst.

01:19:40
Speaker 2: I mean, he sells four hundre thousands and exactly like a huge fan because but they're not the highest like how they are right now, These people that are on the ship that they own on the internet right now, these are just people that just don't know Drake. They don't like Drake, and they're fans of the Internet. They're fans of like just doing what the internet is at the time.

01:19:57
Speaker 1: But I'm not.

01:19:57
Speaker 2: I'm saying about them. The actual should apologize to the barbs, because we all became barbs, not for the right reasons. Barbs are true and loyal to the soil. No matter what happens, They're gonna act this way, no matter what. We've all been acting like barbs the last week for no real reason. These aren't our guys. Who's like a bar the whole genuine population. I've been knacking like a bar he screamed, Barb screamed online in this room.

01:20:26
Speaker 4: It's scream much, y'all, no matter what we're talking about, because y'all just fucking pissed me off sometime with the dunk that y'all say. I'm a barber for fucking Chris Brown.

01:20:33
Speaker 2: Too, Like I'm saying, scream. We owe them an apology. We became them and not for anything we're really loyal to.

01:20:42
Speaker 7: Nah.

01:20:42
Speaker 4: I'm not online DM and people cursing them out, So I'm not a part of that barb shit at all. Not my not my not my not my thing. I don't do that, but I talk she did with y'allo all day.

01:20:53
Speaker 3: Okay, Well back to Talking Ship and focused on Tom Brady.

01:20:57
Speaker 7: Uh.

01:20:58
Speaker 5: Favorite sets from the rows?

01:20:59
Speaker 1: You have any Nicki?

01:21:02
Speaker 7: Yeah?

01:21:02
Speaker 2: Nicki Glazer was great, she was funny man. Out of three hours, it is tough to say that the standouts were obviously Nicki Glazer, Yeah, and Tony Edgecliff were incredible. But I think even like the athletes did okay.

01:21:18
Speaker 5: Julian Edelman was amazing.

01:21:20
Speaker 2: He was hilarious. Bill Belichick even though you could tell he was nervous as fuck and he was out of his element killed Well, who wrote it for him? Well, they have a anyone no matter what they said.

01:21:30
Speaker 4: They sent them these jokes.

01:21:32
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, there's like even with that though, you still have to be able to perform and deliver. Like I was listening to Flagran because Schultz was telling recapping this whole moment.

01:21:41
Speaker 2: Schultz degreat by the way, Yeah, Schultz got.

01:21:44
Speaker 5: He had the worst set.

01:21:44
Speaker 3: He closed it like by that time, you're crossing off all your jokes, Like how many things can you really say about Jaselle at that point?

01:21:50
Speaker 2: So, like I know he smoked it with Gronkowski, Edelman, uh, and one other name. He said that sounds like a law firm, not a receiving and oh, you're gonna need one with your divorce. I Schultz smoked that.

01:22:03
Speaker 3: Yeah, but he said Edelman and bled Cell were going to they were doing spots at the cellar like they were, they were practicing their set. So he said, it's cool working with athletes of that caliber. They kind of had the mindset where to become a great athlete, you watch game tape, you do the thing, you see great people doing it, and then you go out there and try it yourself. So they kind of treated this whole experience like that. And he said that's that's why he thinks they did so well, that's dope.

01:22:28
Speaker 4: I mean, because you know, you can write jokes, but if you don't have that timing, yeah, that comedic timing, So you need that. You need to be on stage a couple of times and get those jokes off and understand when the audience is laughing when they come back in with the next joke. Like it's just so that's dope to know that they actually took time to hit some comedy clubs and and and and work on the material.

01:22:48
Speaker 2: And this one being live, I'm not sure because I've never been to a roast live, but someone like the podcast and interviews I've seen sometimes they'll redo jokes or redo a set. These athletes had to do that shit live. Yeah, that's tough. They couldn't take a break to be like, all right, let me reset and do something. So Randy Moss was hilarious. Everyone was great in this entire thing, which is rare with ROAs because sometimes the celebrities really suck, even with the writers that they have. Yeah, like Tony Hitchcliffe used to write for the older roasts, and I think he was on Rogan talking about him writing for Ann Culter and how much she would refuse to take any joke that he would write her, and then went up there and bombed like he could not fucking believe not one fucking laugh.

01:23:31
Speaker 4: Is this the first? Is this the first roast that was on Netflix? Yes?

01:23:34
Speaker 5: Yeah?

01:23:34
Speaker 2: And Live, Yeah, which I hope they keep because I mean on Comedy Central you could only take it so far. Yeah, the Justin Bieber one, they tried to push a little bit for cable, but if it stays on Netflix, I think we have a whole new world of roast battle.

01:23:50
Speaker 5: Yeah.

01:23:50
Speaker 3: I mean they let the two of our favorite words, cause they say they went for it, so it was great jokes everything.

01:24:00
Speaker 2: I commend I commend Kim Kardashian for going, because you know, if I'm Kim Kardashian, I'm going, I'm gonna be the butt of a lot of jokes.

01:24:07
Speaker 1: Good.

01:24:08
Speaker 2: I actually didn't even see I didn't put that off. Such a genius. I don't even know my own powers.

01:24:14
Speaker 4: Getting frustrated at God, like, why do you keep doing this?

01:24:17
Speaker 2: You don't even know how to use your own powers. I respect her for going, even though she bombed and they booed, she held it down and laughed through all the jokes about her. That's commendable. Yeah, but they tore Tom Brady the fuck up.

01:24:30
Speaker 4: Yeah, and getting and getting like like defensive at a roast, like and start. That's that's that's worse.

01:24:36
Speaker 2: The only person I've seen do that was Ludacris at Justin Bieber's roast. Ludacris was at the end of that day, is going, Oh, I didn't know they were making jokes about me. I thought this was about Justin. Ludacris looked like he had never even heard of a roast in his life. He was only there because he was on Justin's first record ever, and he did okay when he went up. I think he might have went first, and after that was sitting there like, you know what you want to fight like. I didn't know this was a joke. I thought I thought it was a justin Bieber.

01:25:07
Speaker 3: Brady did say and I learned this again from listening. Brady said there were two things that were off limits to his kids, and talking about the Belichick massage thing, well, he did go up to Jeff Ross.

01:25:19
Speaker 2: And yes, said don't say that again, like in the middle of it when it was live, which I don't think they cut out because I watched that was live.

01:25:25
Speaker 5: They didn't got that.

01:25:26
Speaker 4: What did Jeff say?

01:25:27
Speaker 3: Jeff made a a tag like a tag joke about the massages, so.

01:25:33
Speaker 2: Which is true. Tom Brady when he went to the Patriots went up to Robert Kraft and this is a true quote, said I'm the best decision that this organization has ever made, which is a true quote. Jeff Ross was quoting that and then at the end said, but would you like a massage? Because Robert Craft got caught at like a nasty massage parlor and for Ladderdale wherever the fuck it was, like, what.

01:25:54
Speaker 4: Are you doing here?

01:25:55
Speaker 6: Yeah?

01:25:56
Speaker 2: I wouldn't even go.

01:25:57
Speaker 4: That's saying when you think about it, like as much money as Robert Kraft has, you left your house and your crib to drive to this fucking massage.

01:26:05
Speaker 2: The thrill, I guess I think at that point, like you're so rich, there's no thrill of a horror coming to your house.

01:26:11
Speaker 4: You gotta go to her element, nah, man, that's going to the trap. Going to the massage trap is fucking crazy when you when you were for Billy.

01:26:19
Speaker 3: But that happened so early, and that ship was home by the Zoe's for sure. That moment happened so early in the rows that people thought like Tom was kind of threatening to shut down the whole thing after that, because that was a very hard line. Do not mention that or his kids.

01:26:34
Speaker 2: Speaking of Edelman, I was watching a clip of his podcast on the way here. He and Drew bledze on. Everyone knows that there was obviously tension with Brady and Belichick, but it's not as serious as people think. The real tension is Belichick and Robert Kraft. That's that's past Kendrick and Drake, that's on site. So they were in the green room like the whole Patriots team having a good time. Brady and Belichick were having a good time. Everyone's drinking. Robert Kraft walked in and they say, Yo, you could the energy in there was fucking You could rip a piece of paper with that energy. Everyone walked over to Craft and bled Ce was like, well, I was just sitting there because Belichick was telling the story and if I kept walking, he would have been telling the story to nobody. I don't even know what Bill was saying. I just wanted to stand next to him because everyone was like, mister Craft, mister Craft, and Bill was he's ten toes. He's not walking across that green room.

01:27:22
Speaker 5: He's Bill.

01:27:24
Speaker 2: So it was just like, what were you saying, Bill, I'm stuck here? That's Edelman has a great podcast, by the way. Yeah, if anyone is into football specifically or sports in general, Julian Edelman's podcast Gronk is on there a lot, but it is mostly Edelmans. You were the first. Really, Oh, jlm's alumni, where do they shoot that at? Okay, I was about to say, it definitely looks like a different set. Now, interesting, what do we have voicemails?

01:28:01
Speaker 3: We do You've got male in the spirit of rap beef and everybody fucking the same women. This one falls right into rap beef.

01:28:08
Speaker 2: That's the industry. Yeah, that's exist that's existing in this way.

01:28:13
Speaker 6: Fuck with the pod heavy. But I need some advice. So I'm in a weird predicament. My little homie, I haven't seen him in two three years, asked me to kick it.

01:28:29
Speaker 7: Uh.

01:28:30
Speaker 6: We both played ball together, I moved, I came back home. Uh, you know, I haven't seen him in a while. But I'm an estrange predicament. Uh, his girl right now used to be.

01:28:51
Speaker 7: You know, one of my eaters back in the day. Uh, we broke it off, everyone's moved on. How do I tell him that he's he's been with her for a while. I have a girl now too. He's talking about maybe having a double day. I don't know what to tell him because I don't want to be corner saying, hey, don't talk to her because you know how we were moving back then, But also don't want him just finding out.

01:29:21
Speaker 6: On it all. So what shoy'all do?

01:29:26
Speaker 2: This is another easy one to mean.

01:29:27
Speaker 4: So wait, his friend is now dating one of his old eaters. Yeah, and if for those of you listening that don't know what the eater is. That's one of his former head nurses, and.

01:29:39
Speaker 2: I can tell by his side it was one of his favorite eaters. Yeah. Once he said we parted ways and went on different paths.

01:29:44
Speaker 4: Yeah, that means you had to heal.

01:29:47
Speaker 2: You had to heal.

01:29:47
Speaker 4: He might be mad at his friends. That's why he don't know if you want to go damn, you have to figure out. Yeah, he don't want his friend to know that he know her. That's what it is.

01:29:56
Speaker 1: And a lot of time mine. Go ahead, niggas be like, oh, that was my eater. It's not your eater. Y'all. Were both having regular, consensual sex. Y'all just were in a relationship that was not your eater. Eater is very specific and you niggas do not be having eaters. Stop but continue. But not all niggas as you were her eater too, y'all were having sex like that was eating each other. Y'all were having sex that was not your eater. It was not you pull up and she just mop you off and you lead.

01:30:28
Speaker 2: Not everyone experienced her her real appetite.

01:30:30
Speaker 4: Yeah, is what it is.

01:30:32
Speaker 3: I don't know.

01:30:32
Speaker 5: He sounds defeated. He sounds like Drake on the hard part six.

01:30:35
Speaker 2: I mean that's because I think he really liked like that girl a little bit. Obviously he needs to tell his friend, does he Yes.

01:30:43
Speaker 1: He said he hasn't spoken to his friend in years. They just linked up again. Him and the girl are saying him and the girl are serious.

01:30:51
Speaker 2: Okay, so we should go on a double date and sit there for that experience.

01:30:54
Speaker 1: He said, double date. Then it's like, yeah, you you gotta tell him.

01:30:57
Speaker 3: But it's like we're just dubbed the double that could be the order.

01:31:02
Speaker 4: Well, tell him before the date obviously, right, you don't tell him what.

01:31:05
Speaker 2: You don't do the date period and you just tell him, Yeah, if that's your actual friend. If y'all are not really friends and just ran into each other and was like, Yo, we should get up and let's bring the girls.

01:31:14
Speaker 4: Or whatever, that's that's just talk.

01:31:17
Speaker 2: You don't have to you're not that. I might just be yo, I'm busy like me, and you could do something on the.

01:31:21
Speaker 4: Solo and then I'll tell you like yo, fam you know, show to you with me and her. You ain't gotta don't say she's your old eater, don't do that. But you could definitely be like yo, we have you know, we we know each other, we dated or we you know, we messed around before. Like, but don't don't just go out there like yo, ya your girl that you in love with? Yo, that's my old eater.

01:31:40
Speaker 2: No, don't word it that way.

01:31:41
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's that's a fight. And now you want to fight like I get it.

01:31:44
Speaker 2: No, then you're corny. Fight you're corny if you go to your friend to give that information about Yo, that's my old eater. No, you be like yo, she let you know I used to talk to world. Yeah, the ship wasn't nothing. I don't know what's going on with y'all, but I didn't want you to find out later. Yeah, especially doing with dates. He's still going to be crushed if he likes that girl. But what's the other alternative he finds out?

01:32:07
Speaker 4: So what are you do in that situation?

01:32:10
Speaker 2: And we're going off the hype like you with your I haven't seen my friend in a long time, right, and you were playing on like still hanging out with him? Is there a reason spaces?

01:32:19
Speaker 4: I mean, even if you even if you don't hang out, let's say you you you you bump into an old friend and you're like, yo, listen, let's hang out whatever whatever. And he's like, yo, you know, before we do that, the girl that you're with now, me and her have a little history, Like do you still want to go on the date?

01:32:39
Speaker 2: I'm not going on the date period. I'm debting that regardless of if I'm going to tell him or not, if we continue to hang out.

01:32:45
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying him, you're.

01:32:46
Speaker 2: The oh wait, okay, no, I want you to tell me.

01:32:50
Speaker 4: Yeah, you want your friend to tell you? Are you still going to do the double.

01:32:53
Speaker 1: Why would you want your friend? But even if okay, taking out the double date part, why would you want that friend? I'm not doing that, taking telling on, take it off the double day. I had to think about you asking me that question. Of course I'm not doing that. I was like, wait, you really asking me if I'm doing that. I was trying to line you up because then I was like, wait, which person am I here? I'm not doing the double date no matter what character I am.

01:33:14
Speaker 4: What I'm just saying, if you with the eater.

01:33:16
Speaker 2: Though, no, I'm not doing that fucking double date, You're fucking crazy.

01:33:19
Speaker 3: Yeah, but if you're the guy with the eater, you don't know that your homie, and he tells me, you know what, that's crazy.

01:33:26
Speaker 2: No fucking way do you break up with the girl. I don't know.

01:33:31
Speaker 4: Niggas don't want to leave want.

01:33:34
Speaker 2: I don't know.

01:33:34
Speaker 1: That's the stupidest fucking reason to leave somebody. I don't complaining. I can't find fucking love. But some nigga you ain't seen in three years had some history with your girls, and I was like, you know what, hey, you were perfect for me now, but you sucked the dick that I that I know before that I was in the locker room.

01:33:47
Speaker 4: I'm gonna keep it tall. If a chick I'm liking and she I find out she fucked one of my homies, it's clipped.

01:33:54
Speaker 2: It's no way. But what's a homie? Is what I'm really asking was I didn't give a.

01:34:00
Speaker 4: I was really close at one point, but then you know, we're adults, we've grown. Shit happens. I man moved out of town for a couple of years for job whatever. I come back to the city and we bump into each other and like, yo, it's good. I ain't see what I mean, yo, So let's get up. Let's go like you y'all was hanging out tough at one point it's your boy, like, Yo, just my man right.

01:34:15
Speaker 1: Here, and it's being a bit for two years and you getting rid of her.

01:34:18
Speaker 2: I ain't gonna lie. It's tough, man.

01:34:20
Speaker 4: Certain dudes, Certain dudes, Certain dudes. I don't want to nah. Nah, there's certain dudes. If I find out your that what I'm not talking about. Certain dudes are a regular, stand up, regular standard.

01:34:31
Speaker 2: Even some of my friends. Nah, I can't do it. If somebody is going to be a part of my life during our relationship, Nah, I can't.

01:34:39
Speaker 4: You can't.

01:34:39
Speaker 2: I can't do that if you somebody I know and I see if I adapt somebody like it's like your real fruit, bro.

01:34:45
Speaker 3: You don't see each other.

01:34:47
Speaker 4: But y'all don't see each other. Not because y'all not cool. It's like, you know, we adults, we've grown, we have.

01:34:51
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm saying this, I'm on your side. I wouldn't get out of here cha.

01:34:57
Speaker 1: The way y'all care, you're not f I ain't respectful.

01:35:01
Speaker 3: It about to come on my off.

01:35:02
Speaker 1: Y'all gotta get that together. That is not okay.

01:35:04
Speaker 5: But they've been there for two years.

01:35:05
Speaker 1: They've been together for two year. You've been with somebody for two years, and that's tough. That's fucking weird.

01:35:09
Speaker 4: Even if it ain't my friend. Even if it's somebody I just know and I know he's like him, I'm not you used to fuck with him.

01:35:16
Speaker 1: Not I'm this girls doing specific people. They're specific people. I don't want, no bitch that they even bring This is what I'm saying. But I'm just talking about in general, not they don't have to be a nasty person.

01:35:26
Speaker 4: It's just oh no, no, I'm saying it depends on who the person. If it's my friend, I come on, that's my boy. I can't do that. We can't do that. That's just that's just asking for shit to be awkward. Now, Like, no matter how much I've grown with, if we're all in the same space, it's just naturally gonna be awkward.

01:35:41
Speaker 2: I'm fine with, like, associate shit whatever. But like, let's put it to birthday dinner status. If there's ten seats at the birthday dinner and he's gonna be there, that's too close. Nah, No fuck, like, no, there's no way that's happening. That's too close. Yeah, But associate shit, Like if you're in your thirties, been living in the same city your whole life. It's bound to happen, and you may end up liking that girl and you just may know somebody that she dealt with, and it might be cool if I see you what's up? Yeah, But when it comes to like our lives, nah, yeah, but.

01:36:14
Speaker 4: If it's a specific type of somebody, we can't be Nah, we can't have that in common.

01:36:22
Speaker 2: What's that? What's that special type of somebody?

01:36:24
Speaker 1: So y'are kicking her out the crib? Y'all kicking your girlfriend out the crib like y'all live together. She gotta go, you foind out?

01:36:31
Speaker 2: That's crazy? Yes, hell yeah.

01:36:33
Speaker 5: Meanwhile, maul, hell yeah, get out?

01:36:38
Speaker 2: All right. You wouldn't ask her, yo, did you know if we were friends? Because if this guy's my friend together with my friend, what if she had no idea?

01:36:50
Speaker 4: That's that's cool. I'm not saying kicking.

01:36:52
Speaker 2: Her out the crib that night, like let her get not that.

01:36:56
Speaker 4: I'm not gonna put it out in the street. But I'm just saying, like, we can't we not together, we can't be together, like this is not that's my boy, Like we can't do it. That's all it happens.

01:37:05
Speaker 2: I mean, what if she's been your confident on for three years and spoken to him.

01:37:08
Speaker 4: We can still be cool.

01:37:09
Speaker 2: It's the best friend. Now. We can still be cool.

01:37:10
Speaker 4: Man, It's like we still cool. We can still be cool, we can still be cool, we can still be wet. But yeah, it's not like I'm not gonna see you and not say hello, you know, ship ship like that. I'm not gonna act like we complete strangers, but like we can't be together living for the last.

01:37:24
Speaker 3: Two years forget about it. Yeah, like I was, I was ring shopping, but ring shopping.

01:37:29
Speaker 2: Get what I called her my best friend, my sort of best friend came back in town. No, it's not even that.

01:37:34
Speaker 4: It's just that that's somebody you cool when you're close with, that's your boy. Like, it's just it's gonna be awkward. It's definitely gonna be out. That's gonna be some awkward ship forever. I don't give sure you think you are.

01:37:43
Speaker 2: Advice either way. Cancel the double date, but do it in like a nice way, like no, let's let's do something else. Let's just catch up, fill out the situation, ask certain questions, and then you have to let him know that y'all dealt with each other at one point back to the shop.

01:37:57
Speaker 1: Don't let him know, of course, if he if he's happy, if he's if he's.

01:38:03
Speaker 4: Happpy, he's happy for now until that secret comes out the closet. Whenever it comes out to the clouse.

01:38:07
Speaker 1: We ain't see this nigga. We me and him have been together in piece for two years. I didn't even know you knew this nigga.

01:38:11
Speaker 2: First of all, go back to whatever hole you know. You know. Best Man Holiday is a movie, right that doesn't happen in real life, and the Best Man roll credits no more sequel.

01:38:22
Speaker 1: That was completely different.

01:38:24
Speaker 2: That was how the fuck that held down a secret the entire time until wedding day.

01:38:28
Speaker 1: They were best friends, like best friends, best best Harper talking about the nigga.

01:38:35
Speaker 2: They only say friends because you got drafted to giants and Harper was trying to write a book. They would have went other ways. They stayed in New York.

01:38:40
Speaker 1: They would know they were best friend. They had a whole frame room. That's completely different. That was completely fucking different. I'm talking about somebody that like, oh, I ain't even know this person. If we've been together for two years and I didn't even know that you knew this person. They might be important to you, that ain't that? Ain't that fucking important enough to interrupt our day to day life. We might see them at the wedding, and we might see them like at a family reunion or some shit that we both know people at. This is not a part of the regular day to day life.

01:39:06
Speaker 2: Let's say they get married. Put yourself in this situation twenty years down the line. You find that out your best friend and your man.

01:39:14
Speaker 1: He's not my best friend if I ain't seen him in two years or talk to him for two years, and you don't know who the fuck he is.

01:39:17
Speaker 2: Going off this hypothetical that they're reconnecting it.

01:39:21
Speaker 1: He said that was his little homie that he ain't seen in a while. He didn't say that was his best little homie.

01:39:24
Speaker 2: Never came out of his mouth.

01:39:26
Speaker 1: Swear to god, he said that was my little homie.

01:39:28
Speaker 2: All right. Well, I mean sometimes you gotta fuck your little homies. Girls.

01:39:35
Speaker 4: I'm the big homie.

01:39:38
Speaker 5: Drake tactic.

01:39:40
Speaker 4: I'm the big homie.

01:39:41
Speaker 2: You little homie, nigga.

01:39:43
Speaker 1: She told me, Yeah, Nah, it's a man like if that's if that's your big homie.

01:39:47
Speaker 2: Now you can't.

01:39:48
Speaker 1: If that's your big homie, now you can't.

01:39:51
Speaker 2: Either way though, you can't go with life and then find out later he's going to be more crushed. Now two people he cares about, hell the secret against Now it's both, y'all.

01:40:02
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think people need to understand this is always give me the choice. Sometimes sometimes there's so much miserable, like just misery and life. Enjoy your happiness. Sometimes you don't need to know everything. I've learned that the hard way. Some shit that I went searching hard for the guest seven hundred passwords phones was locked for twenty four hours. Some shit I didn't need to see, and some shit I didn't need to know, and I wish.

01:40:25
Speaker 3: That I didn't. And that's what I've been saying about this whole beef.

01:40:28
Speaker 5: Too. Live in the lie.

01:40:30
Speaker 3: Sometimes it's better to live in the lie than to go investigate.

01:40:33
Speaker 5: And you learn.

01:40:33
Speaker 3: The more you learn, the less you're gonna probably like that person, yo, which is cool.

01:40:37
Speaker 2: I don't need to know every last fucking nasty thing my girl has ever done. Please don't tell me. But if it's my fucking friend, Jesus Christ, give me at least the choice. Maybe I am happy enough to be like, yo, fuck it, maybe I can live. But like with Kendrick and Dave, like it seems to be working fine, give me the choice. That's sick, but yeah, I'll get it.

01:41:00
Speaker 4: Never never wor saying that fuck that, nah, get out.

01:41:09
Speaker 2: But do you see the difference. Though I don't need to know, I don't need to know everything, but I would like to know, you know everything.

01:41:14
Speaker 4: But if it's my friend or my little homie or you know, somebody that I'm cool with. We haven't seen each other in a couple of years because whatever, but you know that me and this dude is cool, Like it's my obviously a bump to him, and I'm like, yo's like bring bring wife feet, I bring wife, we go out there, obviously be that cool. So it's like that would be the time to be like, yeah, so about that I have a history with your.

01:41:39
Speaker 2: Friend, because imagine if your girl don't even hold it down and she she hugged your friend before you introduce.

01:41:46
Speaker 1: I'm like, no, it's that's wild. That's wild. That's wild, and that.

01:41:50
Speaker 2: Happens now You're sitting at apple Bee's like, no, we're not doing this too for twenty Yeah, no, I'm leaving one for.

01:41:58
Speaker 4: She'll take hers to go.

01:41:59
Speaker 2: Actually, she has to go and back that sample platter, perfect for her, perfect for her.

01:42:06
Speaker 4: She's taking that to go.

01:42:07
Speaker 2: Everybody's sampled here except for me. Apparently got it? Yeah, what was his question? Does he tell tell? And I said, yes, Yes, he has to tell him. He has to we wrapped?

01:42:20
Speaker 1: She would she would. I wish she would tell him. I wish the girl would tell like, it will be better coming from her than coming from now.

01:42:28
Speaker 4: He might put extras on it.

01:42:30
Speaker 2: Yeah, niggas put sauce on ship like see, I'd rather hear it from the friend.

01:42:37
Speaker 4: Really, yeah, her coming from your girl?

01:42:39
Speaker 2: Because yes, and I think women will coming from the women will downplay it even more. I think there's corny guys out there that would throw sauce on it, But that's not really your friend. If I'm talking to one of my friends, I think they will gently tell me that information and be accurate with it gently. You want you want to hold me to tell you gently? I want him to rub my back. Just just rubbed my hair while you're doing it, girl, touch because a girl say some bullshit like yeah, no, like we just ran into each other one night. They'll say some bullshit like he ran through me.

01:43:16
Speaker 4: Yo.

01:43:16
Speaker 2: Homie will say YO used to talk to her. We used to fuck one really like that. Every now and then we talked like it really wasn't a thing. They'll give you the real it's you're not gonna like it. Yeah, I'm not gonna ask details, And I don't think my friend would tell me details. He was we funk around. Wasn't anything crazy at all, like it did. We even spoke in a really long time. She's cool, Like, I just wanted to give you a heads up. I know a woman will lie. The woman will lie straight up like like I don't even like count that, like I don't even remember it like that.

01:43:48
Speaker 3: That's what demeritized shed my new pussy. Whatever the she's like my pussy said it was like it was like cicadas. You said, we shed pussy like seven miles.

01:43:58
Speaker 1: Yeah, we shed skins out every seven every seven years. You're a completely different.

01:44:02
Speaker 5: Yeah, she's a fucking everything.

01:44:03
Speaker 4: No, I remember what happened in twenty seventeen. I it was some shit going on that summer. You can't shed that, Yeah, you can't shed that on the walls, that stays, that stays. That's a different type of pain that is cemented in history.

01:44:16
Speaker 1: Sure you ain't fuck me, it's without sixteen wain.

01:44:20
Speaker 4: Fuck if you didn't fuck.

01:44:21
Speaker 1: In twenty six summer to summer of twenty sixteen, the only summer eb I remember. If it didn't happen, then it never happened.

01:44:27
Speaker 4: Oh shit, there's some shit that happened after twenty sixteen for Shure and before it for show. It's life SHD the pushy I remember that pussy.

01:44:36
Speaker 5: That shit.

01:44:37
Speaker 2: What year your ID s you were born? What that's the that's how long bet on this earth? Would you lose your virginally.

01:44:45
Speaker 5: You were born in ninety seven?

01:44:47
Speaker 4: Anyway, you don't have to get that all a me too.

01:44:53
Speaker 2: Women will say some bullshit like yeah, but it was nothing like what we have is more special, Like that doesn't make me feel fun.

01:45:00
Speaker 1: He was not really saying that to your What are you saying when you say his name? You finally got him with the who what's his last name?

01:45:09
Speaker 6: No?

01:45:11
Speaker 4: No, no, no, no, nigga last name? Nasty, I'm gonna have to be.

01:45:17
Speaker 2: Playing with moss And then my mind is racing even more, like how you you don't remember him, like, oh no, he was the homie. Who else you don't remember?

01:45:26
Speaker 1: He was THEO. There's really no way to say that, Like you've been in that.

01:45:30
Speaker 3: Situation before, been in that situation.

01:45:32
Speaker 2: All right.

01:45:32
Speaker 4: So the guy that you were with that you y'all were just eaters and then y'all end up liking each other. He obviously was like he didn't give a funk like, but was that his man like his homie?

01:45:43
Speaker 1: Mhm?

01:45:43
Speaker 4: What okay? There's some mutans out here that niggas an X man. That nigga shd skin every seven hours nigga like you said, seven years, that nigg ship skinned every seven hours, every seven commercials. Here a new nigga.

01:46:04
Speaker 2: He heals every woman in seconds. That niggas an X.

01:46:08
Speaker 4: Men for show what I mean? I get it. I know how you could develop feelings for somebody you shouldn't be developing films for. I get that. But to then be like you're not fuck it like we together, that's a different type of nick.

01:46:20
Speaker 2: You don't have to get into too much. Have y'all like hung out and it's cool.

01:46:25
Speaker 1: Damn.

01:46:26
Speaker 4: Collectively, the marriage might have that snapback, because only only that snapback and have a nigga be like, yo, son, fuck it, You're like only the snap back every year. It might be yeah, it might be seven commercials for the marriage to because that's the only thing where a nigga can be like, damn me and Homie cool.

01:46:47
Speaker 2: They got history.

01:46:48
Speaker 4: I don't even give a fuck. It's gotta be for that snapback. It's only the snapback. Half niggas doing it like that.

01:46:54
Speaker 1: You don't piss.

01:46:57
Speaker 4: It was in the group chat. That's confirmed. We all communicate together. Oh nah, she's gangster. That's crazy.

01:47:05
Speaker 1: The Knicks are doing well.

01:47:06
Speaker 4: The Knicks are doing well. Thank you for that, Thank you for that second.

01:47:11
Speaker 5: Everything.

01:47:12
Speaker 4: The Knick snapped back after runsing almost looked like he was hurt that after.

01:47:15
Speaker 2: Every time we talk about the Knicks, Jamarico is like this, Yeah, she brought the topic up this time.

01:47:21
Speaker 1: Man, Them niggas is flowy.

01:47:23
Speaker 4: The ns yo, the Knicks, yo, baby d y'all.

01:47:27
Speaker 2: I don't even know.

01:47:28
Speaker 4: But the Knicks is wild and they up too old.

01:47:30
Speaker 2: I don't know what that means, but it's bruns in the greatest n history or what.

01:47:37
Speaker 6: Yo.

01:47:37
Speaker 4: But shout out to the Knicks. Man up to old on the paces Josh Hart rebound machine the Conference semifinals. The Knicks look great. Man, the Knicks were playing together.

01:47:46
Speaker 2: It was shaky.

01:47:47
Speaker 4: It was shaky when Brunton looked like he may have heard his his growing. That was kind of shaky, like New York almost motherfucking erupted last night. But he came back after halftime and the Knicks were able to win. Shout out to the Knicks playing great. Hopefully they can continue and get the ship done it and get to the get to the Prayers to Og finals. He had a bad uh he pulled his hand what I believe it, Hay look like a handy. I don't think that that's going to be a tight turnaround. That would at least be like two to three weeks. So if we're down him, that's that means that you is going to have to do a lot of minutes. Mitch is done, done, Mitch's cooked. Yeah, like we're I mean, this is just the residual of playing for a Tips coach team. Heart has played every minute the last two games straight. He's played forty eight minutes. I'm not gonna lie. If and if OG I mean OG is a that's a loss.

01:48:35
Speaker 5: That's a big loss for twenty eight and he only played he put up.

01:48:41
Speaker 4: But I'm not mad at the idea of Precious getting those minutes. I'm not mad at that.

01:48:47
Speaker 5: I mean, there's no better time to prove yourself.

01:48:48
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm not mad at I'm not I'm not mad at Precious coming off the bench for Og, even though Ogi is a big piece of what the Knicks are doing. But Precious is he He had some really really good, good games for the Knicks to and so either way, I hope Og is good. I want to see the Knicks as healthy as they can be. Mitch Robinson obviously he's out. Julius is obviously out. So that's two big two of their starters are already out. So you know, we don't want to see the Knicks hurt anymore. But if Ogi can't go, I'm I'm I'm not mad at Precious getting those minutes.

01:49:21
Speaker 2: What do you think about Julius just just like standing at the top of the key as a diversion.

01:49:28
Speaker 4: One leg, that shoulder that show the ain't gonna get it done, and that's that shoulder, and you can't you can't do much. He can't do much, man, But the Knicks look good that they playing together. Obviously, I think the fact that those guys know each other since college is obviously the chemistry that is carrying this thing right now. The Knicks and Brunching obviously is playing at an MVP level. It's just been fun to watch watch him, and I just can't wait till that ticket comes across and they tell us how much they paid.

01:49:55
Speaker 6: Jalen.

01:49:56
Speaker 4: He gonna break the fucking bak he deserves. He go overcharged with they did to the coke he finished.

01:50:01
Speaker 5: He finished fourth and m v P voting Joe Kitsch one again. I believe.

01:50:07
Speaker 3: Gil Chris finished fifth. It was kind of dicey. The Gil Chris is shy. Gilchris s g. A.

01:50:13
Speaker 4: Gildes just not gilt you talking about what you say his name, Michael kid Grill, I must say he finished fifth, Michael Kidd, Gil Chris, what the had a solid year. I didn't see any of that ship No, but Shay gil gillis he finished fifth. I believe it was brunch and finished fourth.

01:50:28
Speaker 5: Fourth.

01:50:29
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't like that. Brun should have been top three at least.

01:50:32
Speaker 5: At least s GA finished second.

01:50:35
Speaker 3: And then it was it was Joker s g a Doncic, Giannis, Brunson, Brunson was fifth, Tatum and Anthony Edwards Sabonis and KT.

01:50:45
Speaker 4: Brunson was fifth. Crazy Giannis over bruntson this year.

01:50:50
Speaker 3: Because Jannis received one first place vote while Brunton received none but second.

01:50:55
Speaker 2: Who was the one person that voted for Gianni as the.

01:50:58
Speaker 5: Asshole in Milwaukee?

01:51:00
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm brunts and Brunton deserved. He deserved more votes than the finish fifth this season. He had was fucking incredible.

01:51:07
Speaker 2: Do we put on Josh Hart's jersey at least up in the rafters because he told Reggie Miller Yo, they're saying fuck you. You know that, right?

01:51:15
Speaker 5: I was incredible.

01:51:17
Speaker 4: That's gangster fuck with Josh.

01:51:20
Speaker 2: You have to put the Josh Hart jersey up there. Yes for that.

01:51:22
Speaker 4: Shout out to the Knicks hopefully again.

01:51:24
Speaker 6: Man.

01:51:24
Speaker 4: I want to see them, you know, keep this thing going. It's gonna be interesting. It's gonna be fun to watch them close this shit out if they can get it done.

01:51:33
Speaker 3: Agree on the Patreon Oh yeah, I have more speculation on this rap shit.

01:51:40
Speaker 5: I want to save it for Patreon.

01:51:41
Speaker 4: Oh do you Okay? Well, let's do it. We'll talk to y'all soon headed to Patreon.

01:51:47
Speaker 2: I'm that nigga.

01:51:48
Speaker 4: He's just ginger peace now