Cary Fetman: The Iconic Stylist of ‘The Bachelor’ Franchise — Part 1 | Happy Hour

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to Bachelor Happy Hour.

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Speaker 2: I'm Rachel and I'm Cheerity, and today we have the most special guests. Honestly, I can't even believe I'm like doing this interview.

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Speaker 3: You guys don't understand.

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Speaker 2: He has been styling the Bachelor from the beginning. Everyone, welcome our fairy godfather Carrie. No, literally, this is like a dream come true. And like you know how much we love you.

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Speaker 4: Like you know, and you know you know how you all mean to me. You know, I don't have to even pretend. This is coming so pure from my heart, the love that I have for each one of you. And I know you all think that I love the other one better.

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Speaker 1: Maybe Rachel just just a little bit more.

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Speaker 4: Rachel, Well, Rachel is something special.

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Speaker 1: I love her.

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Speaker 3: I mean we love her too.

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Speaker 5: So you and Rachel were like our dream guests when they asked us, who would you want to sit down with?

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Speaker 4: No, Rachel and.

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Speaker 3: I honestly gathered she was here.

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Speaker 2: We did say we did tell her that we were going to do one with you, and she was going to say I wanted she said she wanted to come, but it's okay, We're.

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Speaker 3: Doing this in person. Yeah, this is this is perfect.

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Speaker 4: Fact that I'm in person with the two of you. This is my dow podcasts, I know, but I'm like, I'm honored. I honored, thank you for inviting me. Of course, how I come out yet end.

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Speaker 3: It'll be great.

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Speaker 2: Now, this is going to be like the most talked about episode because I feel like everybody wants to know the behind the scenes of like our looks our fashion, Like every bachelorette obviously has had different styles, and like you are like the visionary behind that. But obviously you have to deal with us beforehand getting there, so there's a lot.

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Speaker 3: There's a lot that goes into that.

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Speaker 2: So honestly, take us to the back to the very beginning, Carrie, how did you even get involved with the Bachelor franchise.

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Speaker 4: I was only doing celebrity stylists. I was doing Sarah Jessica during Sex and the City. I had Julie Louis Dreyfus during all of the years of Seinfeld, and then I went on to Lisa Cooder when she was doing Friends. So I was just kind of busy in that world, not ever doing them for on the show. I never wanted to be on a costume show. I mean I never wanted a costume, but dressing them for the Red carpet and anything that they went to, any parties where they were traveling someplace. It was a blast. And then I met Joan Rivers and that completely changed my life. Joan and Melissa invited me to be on their show, and I don't know what I got the nerve up to do it, because she was like the one person we all feared. There's not a stylist around that will not tell you that their greatest fear was what happened on Monday when Joan Rivers was on Fashion Police, and so the idea that I was going to be meeting with her, and then at the end of the show, she's like, well, why aren't you doing Melissa? And I was like, none of you ever called, And three days later, here we go. It was a phone call. And now twenty five years later with her too, Wow, I think, yeah, her kid wasn't even born and Cooper's already twenty five. Oh my goodness, it's amazing. How old I am.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I'm like he's aging backwards.

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Speaker 1: He literally looks fabulous puberty.

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Speaker 4: My hair is starting to curl again.

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Speaker 5: Oh my gosh, Okay, so tell us how you got involved with the Bachelor.

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Speaker 4: So I just got this phone call one day from Brick Carson, who was the head of Warner Brothers for this, and this was her baby. She had introduced it and she was the main person from Warner Brothers, and she said, I don't even know if you'd be interested in doing it, but would you ever think about it? I'm like, yeah, I guess why not. And so the next day went on an interview and they asked me these questions and I was like, what, of course I can pack somebody for a week. I mean I was sending people down a red carpet. I mean, for God's sake, doing the six I think at that point they want me to do six dresses. I think it was six ros. And I was like, yeah, I think I can do that, and so they hired me. Never thought anything of it, just thought that because it was my first job interview. I'd never gone on a real job interview here since living in la and I guess I never ran on a job interview in Chicago either. I opened my own store at nineteen, so I guess this was my first real job interview. And I thought Okay, you ask questions that you answer and they hire you. And like four years later, the executive producer came to me one day and she's like, you know, you know I love you. And I'm like yeah, She's like, so, don't take this wrong away, But didn't you wonder like why we hired you right away? I thought, I guess now I do. Yeah, yeah, because you were such you were such an asshole about how you were answering. She's like, and we just knew, and I I was an asshold Like what he's probably just like so direct what I'm doing? I mean, what is the big deal about putting something in a gown?

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Speaker 3: He's like, this is nothing.

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Speaker 1: He goes and literally.

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Speaker 4: So I guess I need to be a little more understated when I go on job interviever. Happens again. Now I'm ninety and going on my next job interview probably soon.

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Speaker 2: No, I mean, you're still here a decade later, So that's like an insane run.

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Speaker 3: Like do you.

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Speaker 4: Understand how I hope it's not over yet, it's not.

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Speaker 1: Far from it's not.

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Speaker 4: That's me too.

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Speaker 5: Did you ever think from the first season that you would still be here going to God?

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Speaker 2: No, no, you thought it was like it just gonna be like a oh, I'm just doing this temporarily.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. But I never thought I was never going to last at anything. I always thought I was a little like an impositor. I never understood what people kept thinking was so great about what I was doing. I was picking the most expensive, beautiful dress. I mean, it's not like I was making him. I was just picking him. And I didn't have the last say you guys always did. Yeah, So I mean the things that were picked were picked by all of you.

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Speaker 3: I think people don't know that I don't have to him. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I think people really assume that it's like, oh, like Carrie picks out all these outfits and he doesn't know the batchel of the rats and it's like no, Like for me, you know, I came in hot, I said, don't put me in that.

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Speaker 3: Don't put me in it. I don't want to.

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Speaker 4: I won't wear this, I won't wear that, don't do this. And I was like, Okay, knock your socks off.

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Speaker 1: Pol Yeah.

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Speaker 4: And if she was pulling, I was kind of following and pulling my own things. But maybe she missed.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And that's the thing.

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Speaker 2: That's what he's good at he's good at like, Okay, sometimes we get a little too far off the trail.

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Speaker 3: He'll pull us back in, but.

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Speaker 2: He still lets us have like creative freedom in that, which I for me, I appreciate it because I'm like, the last thing I can do is not feel good on a day or do anything and be like look crazy.

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Speaker 4: The whole point. I mean, why would I push my clothes onto you? Now? If I think you're making a mistake, you know, I'll keep you when you're looking going okay, do you.

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Speaker 3: Like it better?

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Speaker 4: Like better?

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Speaker 5: Like that?

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Speaker 4: Do you want me to try and do that? And then finally you'll be like, do you want me to change the dress? Yeah? I don't think you look.

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Speaker 3: You're very honest though, Yeah you are, but.

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Speaker 4: I at least let you pick. I'm not the one going on a date. I'm not the one going on TV. That's why I've never done that. I never wanted to be in front of the TV. I love being the puppet behind because it's just me kind of moving around and just I'm not the puppet master yet. I'm just the puppet that just kind of pushes you a little bit.

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Speaker 5: I think people don't understand though, it's so much more than styling. Our time with you and with Gina is so important to the journey. And I feel like having you just as an ear or just telling you how the date we're and you're telling you how you're feeling. You never have an input, You just listen, and it is pivotal to like everyone's journey.

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Speaker 3: And all the bachelorettes.

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Speaker 4: Say that, which is wonderful. This one I will take credit. Yeah, I've heard this from all of you, so I know not to doubt it. But that's just out of true love. I mean, because the beauty is the wardrobe room is a safe place. And I've told every executive producer, do not come in, do not ask me what we talk about. I'll never share. People never go and repeat anything we talk about.

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Speaker 2: Which it's like it's so important because it's like obviously everyone knows that we don't have like we have the producers and that's and we have ourselves. And so it's like you guys, and you specifically curious like you're coming from like obviously like at that point in our journey, you're like beyond like a friend. You're like nearly you are a fairy godfather. So it's like literally it's beyond that. But it's like you also come from a place of just like you don't have these biases, like you know what I mean. It's like the producers obviously like we love them, but like you know, they have they're making a shot, they have a show to them, and it's like we can't call our moms and what we do, but like you know, it's not as frequent as we would, like we can't text our girlfriends. So it's like you become that for us, and it's like, oh my gosh, I'm telling you this in confidence. I need someone who's going to be so real with me in this moment, and it's like you don't hold back. I remember, like literally, like when we were in Fiji, I was like I need you, Carrie, please help me right now, like I need a moment, and it was just like literally just me and him like ear to ear, like you never never push us away.

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Speaker 4: It's I mean, talk to Tina in the makeup I get it's harder for her because she's doing your lips, she's doing things to you, right she's but you guys share a lot. By the time you get to me in fairness, I've already seen you physically naked and emotionally naked genuinely, so there's nothing to hide from me, right and I am just there to listen and will I tell you when you're wrong? Sure? Yeah. If I think you're going off the deep end, you bet I'm going to drag your back out because I know how much pressure there is. I've been on this long enough to see what every season happens, and I know like at the time it's going to happen. I know before hometowns. I know the difference between when it's a bachelor versus a bacheorette. You guys fall in love the first night. I don't know how, but I have taken this test with almost every one of you give me your five top people on the first night, three of them always make it to the last two episodes.

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Speaker 3: Crazy.

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Speaker 4: I don't know if there's a smell, I don't know if there's a look, because they there's just something though that you guys know, the second that guy gets out of the car, there's something that just boom. And I've never seen it like I've It's rare. I think maybe one person did not have one of their top five from the beginning at the end.

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Speaker 1: I have a question.

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Speaker 5: How many leads have told their producers I'm not going to do something until I talk to Carrie.

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Speaker 4: I would think that would be more producers. I think that would be a producer question. I don't know. I just know that we do talk a lot. I know that I know that they allow us a little extra time with you guys, because all it takes is the text for me saying leave me alone for a minute.

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Speaker 3: Correct literally me. I'm like, I'm telling everyone to please exit this room.

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Speaker 5: You were just so meaningful on the journey, and I think especially getting together with all the bachelorettes. We'll talk about that, but everyone's story of deciding who they wanted with you the last day or the last second, and I just really want to hammer this two viewers about.

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Speaker 1: How important you are. This franchise was crumble.

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Speaker 5: Without you, please, No, it was, And I'm willing to stand.

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Speaker 3: On that one thought from a lead perspective.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, oh my god, I bout you like you are like our anchor, Like truly.

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Speaker 4: I can't tell you how much it means. You guys are truly making my heart.

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Speaker 3: It's everything. You know that Carrie, truly.

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Speaker 5: Should we get into some wardrobes and actual questions?

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Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, because I'm like, we need to hear some fashion.

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Speaker 2: Yes, okay, okay, in your opinion, what are the three most iconic gowns in Bachelor Nation history.

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Speaker 4: That's like asking me who is my favorite child?

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Speaker 3: The gowns I know.

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Speaker 4: Okay, So not rating him, I would say, obviously, JoJo's blue dress was iconic. Yes, I mean that was that was everywhere it was. There was I think one of the dresses because at that point I didn't have Instagram yet, but there is a photo of us with I'm trying to think whose dress it was. I can't remember the designer Emily Maynard's finale dress. I have a picture of her with work. Here we are in Phenomenon and we're at the top of stairs. They have a house that's this big for her and she's got black socks up to here because it's freezing, and she's lifting her dress because there's all these stairs that she's got to walk. And that's the photo I captured and that will be locked in my head forever.

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Speaker 3: The black socks.

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Speaker 4: The black socks. She looked like a bubby just walking up the stairs and then when she let down in this dress, I was like, Wow. I don't think people made a big deal about it because you know, Instagram had.

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Speaker 3: Just got it start.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and I was definitely not near being.

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Speaker 1: There, Carrie. It was Jean John Ferris Cature.

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Speaker 4: Oh that's right, and so it was a brand new line that I never thought we would be able to get. Wow, in the beginning, Bachelor was people were willing to kind of work with us. But yeah, I mean in the beginning also, they were very much into doing trades, and so we had to shop out of one store and one store only until finally, after a couple of seasons, I started showing them if you just let me do some stuff, it won't cost a lot, but I can reach out to people. I think we've made enough of an impact now where people will give me things they want they want to. So it was, you know, at that point, it was like but still shocked. I was always still shocked by who would be willing to and this this man had never given a job us to anybody for TV and it was fantastic. Oh my god, just unbelieva. The colors and I don't think even the camera did a justice. I think you just had to see it in person.

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Speaker 3: We need to pull up a picture on the screen, just want to see.

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Speaker 1: I have a question.

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Speaker 5: Was there a look that you loved at the time, but looking back you were like, I don't really like it anymore.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, several are those are the easier, like.

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Speaker 1: Oh, that didn't quite work on camera.

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Speaker 4: Mistake happens like like Joan Golden, Joan, who I love and this dress when she was standing in my house, it was the most perfect gown. It had a cape lit and it was beyond stunning. What he didn't account for was when she sat down. And you know how many times I make you guys, let me see when you're sitting, and you see when you're standing, when you stand up, is it gonna You're gonna have to keep fussing with it? Don't like I'm doing right now. You know That's what I don't want people doing all night long. And you can tell when somebody's not comfortable in their dress, because it's like I usually try and make them do everything. Joan, for some reason, we both knew that this was the dress. Put a pin on the top. We were being rushed that night, so the pin didn't go exactly where it was supposed to go. But that dress is when she sat down. Somehow, from the time that I pinned it, and I pinned her the whole season, there was no reason for why that dress did not come out the same way every other dressed it. It was so tight that trying to get it up, but she was such a good sport.

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Speaker 3: She's like, just do it.

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Speaker 4: I don't care if I can't breathe, I don't care anything. And then as soon as she sat down that dress started, her boobs were already to hear. And then before the end of the show, her boobs were like up here, Oh my god. I just wanted to cry with her.

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Speaker 1: You're watching the camera.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you're back.

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Speaker 4: Oh I'm dying here, and I'm so sorry. She saw photos of it and she loved it.

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Speaker 3: Okay's listen.

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Speaker 4: She didn't care. But yes, I have made many mistakes. You know, there's certain things that look gorgeous in person and then all of a sudden you see it on camera and the revers has happened to her, I'm like kind of boring, you know, in my living room, it's not really made for camera life. You would think after this many years, maybe I would have bought one light that would that would show me like, hey, so maybe we're being friends with a lighting department for twenty four years just to say, hey, guys, is there something temporary that I can hang up and hear when we're doing fittings. So even if we can take a photo, we can see what the photos.

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Speaker 3: Honestly, that's like it they should have.

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Speaker 5: But I feel like the lighting in your apartment is so soft, so I can tramping for hours because I don't like get I hear to see.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, if I'm under a light, I'm like, okay, I'm doing.

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Speaker 3: It's very beauty, so like it's it's important.

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Speaker 4: It's just like me. It gets a little moody. That's why we take so many breaks. That's why wile I don't know if there's new rules anymore about us even being allowed to drink when we're doing this.

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Speaker 3: There better not be exactly exactly.

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Speaker 2: It's part of the experience alone, and it's.

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Speaker 3: Like a date. It is.

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Speaker 5: It's like we talk about it, like, I mean, going through all the dresses in your apartment was my favorite party being a lead And how long does it take you to get everything in that apartment for that first fitting.

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Speaker 4: The first fitting is insane. The first we have at least forty five to fifty racks, and my apartment, you know, maybe you can get twenty five to thirty, which is a lot. I mean, you know how crowded those Yeah, yeah, yeah. But we have this woman named Dawn who works for me. I love her and is the best. And so I'm fortunate to have an elevator in my building, and my apartment has three floors, so we were able to line clothes up down on Dawn's floor and bring it up. So while we're already moving towards RAX later on, Dawn is sneaking in and rolling out racks that we've already gone through and bringing new res in. And then we turn around and just start over again, as though you're looking at the things you already looked at. That's why I think each one of you is said, haven't I been over here already? I'm like, yeah, just keep looking.

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Speaker 5: We're not only do you have the rose ceremony dresses, you have each climate. So I know for my season you would call it we had one warm climate and then we had a hot one, yeah, or hot and cold sorry, and we called it, what is it Hawaiian Alaska.

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Speaker 4: Yes.

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Speaker 2: He would never tell us where we're going, and he would go like this for Hawaii, and I'd be like, yes, He's like this one's you're gonna be cold, You're gonna need a let's do some like layers.

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Speaker 3: And I'm like, where am I going?

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Speaker 4: I'm right now, Okay, it's got I think tell me where we'd be. It's got cobblestone. That was the whole point. Be careful or choose your picking. So make sure your dress is going to be where you know, I might need to do a different shoe, So picture cobblestone. The temperature is going to be gorgeous all day long, but then really chilly at night. It's you know, where are we And each one of you would give me a place. A few of you actually hit the place, and I could see the producer's face that would be sitting there, going ah, stop stop saying that. Pick another place.

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Speaker 3: I'm like, she does no idea, just shut it. Let me.

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Speaker 4: And I warn everybody at the show. She thinks we're going to Miami and going Because.

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Speaker 2: I was like, I definitely guess and completely wrong. My entire season could not guess at all. Of course, definitely didn't.

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Speaker 4: Oky It's got beautiful blues, blue oceans, and the weather is going to be temperate and gorgeous and beautiful.

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Speaker 3: You guys gave me, oh, we're going to like Hawaii.

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Speaker 4: But that's what was so perfect about it. You knew you were going to WHII guess what it was. The clothes that you picked for it were really really good. It was best part of my season.

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Speaker 2: No, truly, it was the best time Like that was those outfits.

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Speaker 5: How much planning goes into a season when you're going from the road ceremony justice to the daily outfits. How much work is that behind the scenes?

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Speaker 4: Uh, you know, I usually start like a month month and a half earlier and start trying to see now that there's so many rules about how fast we have to return things and things we have to like plan out what day you guys actually coming, But I don't have things in my basket. It's for weeks at a time, and and you know, and it just because I too, am still trying to figure out because we've been known on the Bachelor that we've changed things very quickly. Yes, we do. You think you're going to someplace hot, and you end up being in some place cold. You think that you're going someplace out of the country, and next thing you know, you're flying to Denver. Something silly like that, something happens, and or there's also once in a while you think you're going to be doing a boy and a girl comes in, or you think you're doing one girl and in the middle, somebody whispers to you and you need to talk to you privately. Nobody can know other than you, not Gina, not your assistant, but might be changing, somebody might be interested in getting an engagement right away. We might be bringing somebody new it, but nobody knows and we don't even know.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and.

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Speaker 4: That was that was a fun experience.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and even for mine, they didn't tell you who it would be. And it was between three of us at the time. And Carrie said he was shopping for some things for Gabby, some things for me, and.

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Speaker 3: Oh, we didn't know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, oh for her season, her season, but the craziest, oh wow, the craziest.

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Speaker 4: And then to be told, oh, they're both gonna be doing it.

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Speaker 5: We can, but you were like holy and we were completely different heights, different sizes, like he had so many rocks of clothes.

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Speaker 1: But we had so much fun, especially the days we got.

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Speaker 2: To be I think that season, I mean, obviously we already know how talented Carrie is, but it's like doing two Bachelettes at the same time, at the same time.

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Speaker 3: Completely different styles obviously, like very different.

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Speaker 4: Like yeah, a lot of suitcases. Yeah, there were a lot of suitcases. And then of course Princess here she needed a coat and dress that would not fit into a suitcase. We almost had to do two suitcases for it. Finally they were able to fit for a coat and the dress and a dress that I kept saying to her from the very beginning, there's nowhere for you to wear it. We figured out that there's not.

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Speaker 3: What was the dress?

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Speaker 1: Oh, I got to wear it? Wait, I was okay.

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Speaker 5: There was this black coat and I think the coat was what I wanted and it was like almost like a cape, and it was really long and we loved it and it was for some place cold.

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Speaker 1: And after the.

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Speaker 5: Row ceremony where me and Gabby just had.

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Speaker 1: The worst time on the journey, I was like, I want.

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Speaker 5: To wear this outfit. Mind a place for me to wear it? And the producers went out and found a location I could wear it.

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Speaker 4: Wait, we went to Paris. Sa Diva is not telling you we went to Paris.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm like, why do you keep leaving?

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Speaker 2: You know? That's like my favorite part of all seasons.

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Speaker 3: Paris.

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Speaker 5: I thought it was Paris, but the night location was somewhere different. And then they switched it to a cathedral so I could wear this in Paris.

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Speaker 3: Insane, in Paris insane.

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Speaker 4: Gabby's was at the Eiffel Tower. How they got that overnight, because mind you, this all changed overnight. The only good thing was I God, nobody knew.

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Speaker 5: Oh my god, because we were both hysterical after that night.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it was a horrifying night. And they went deservingly and said what can we do? And She's like, I want to wear this dress? So I want to, and so she I, Gabby and one producer jumped on a plane. The next morning. I don't Gina came and met us. But Gina wasn't with us for some reason. I don't know if she was stay, if she stayed back to do something where we were doing a special, but it was and all of a sudden, she and I are in Paris, and I know she's wearing the dress.

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Speaker 1: With its own suitcase. No, Carrie made it happen.

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Speaker 4: No, I realized, and I kept thinking myself, why are you carrying a suitcase with a dress that she's never gonna wear? But she made me promise that once, and you know me, once I promised that I don't break.

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Speaker 3: He keeps it. Not that he keeps a promise.

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Speaker 4: The beauty is that keep secrets. Because I can't remember anything that you tell me anyhow, looking I'm so great.

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Speaker 5: But you always, yeah, tell me the story.

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Speaker 4: At least give me the story actually makes.

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Speaker 3: So much sense for car That's it. That's that's the trick.

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Speaker 4: That's why when you asked me who it was, I can't remember.

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Speaker 2: People mean, okay, wait, I want to know, Like out of all the badge threads, like we talked about this kind of at the beginning of like some being more opinionated and some not, Like who do you think was the most like like they knew they knew their's and like versus like you really had to like kind of help.

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Speaker 4: You know what, I will say, Rachel had a style that I had to get to learn to know. Rachel lindsay, you came in with a style that you were very specific. But what I loved about you was that as you got more comfortable, your whole style completely changed. Also, you never became like bacherette Dolly, and you never became the Barbie doal. But you also never you didn't stick.

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Speaker 3: To like one thing. Yeah.

00:27:40
Speaker 4: Yeah, you allowed us to play, and all of a sudden it was like this whole new you came out and it was period.

00:27:49
Speaker 3: Hello.

00:27:50
Speaker 4: That's how I got period period Hello, that's it was Charity picky on the racks?

00:28:00
Speaker 5: Sit again, I said, were you picky on the racks in the beginning because you came in knowing your style?

00:28:06
Speaker 4: Not really I was a lawn from them.

00:28:08
Speaker 2: But then I think, I mean, I think he was probably more surprised that I was like no, like I would tell you no.

00:28:13
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, I was not afraid of it.

00:28:14
Speaker 4: I'd rather have that than have somebody say yes, yes, yes, yes, yes everything, and then somewhere on the road and I've altered everything and they're like, yeah, I don't think I like this anymore.

00:28:24
Speaker 2: Yeah, And that's why I was like I Also, I mean, I think I also knew that I was like, oh, that's probably gonna be like I don't think I have that much flexibility versus like if I was doing this on my own, I'm like, he has to, like he's tailoring these stuff like we don't we can't go back. So I'm like, I need to love it in this moment because if I love it, then I'm gonna love it later.

00:28:41
Speaker 3: I can't like like it, you know what I mean.

00:28:44
Speaker 4: But you were really good too. I mean the only day we ever had problems when I would order a bottle of champagne it for and we'd start drinking, was just on a certain day when they wanted you to wear a pair of sneakers, or if it wasn't for sneak, I wouldn't wear pants. I don't blame you pants because she said I need a heel. And when I would say to them, she let me at least give her a wedge something, tell me what she's doing that she can't do it. And when I would read these notes in the middle of the night and I'd be like, oh, fuck's.

00:29:20
Speaker 3: Gonna have you know?

00:29:21
Speaker 1: And I would still wear the heel.

00:29:22
Speaker 3: I'm screaming so.

00:29:23
Speaker 1: Many times on the cobblestone, I was in a heel.

00:29:26
Speaker 4: You know, I don't did you have any issue with it? No, neither.

00:29:29
Speaker 1: He always made sure I was fine.

00:29:31
Speaker 4: I'd go to them and say, you either want somebody that's going to be happy or you want somebody that's gonna be miserable. Do you want to come on the dates?

00:29:38
Speaker 3: It's really simple because I'm like, there's only two minds present.

00:29:41
Speaker 4: And by that point, she and I had already finished a bottle of champagne. We ate charcuterie now like five o'clock in the morning, and I'm thinking to myself, oh good. She and I were dressed, and then we crawl into bed for a little while. Because I knew Gabby didn't. Gabby could take three minutes.

00:29:54
Speaker 1: Gabby was three seconds.

00:29:57
Speaker 4: By the time I'd get to Gabby, she'd be dressed. I'd be like, all right, do you ye? Would you like me to give you a new jewelry?

00:30:04
Speaker 3: Sure? And then was she your easiest bachelorette? Probably?

00:30:12
Speaker 4: I find easiness with all of you.

00:30:14
Speaker 3: You love saying that, but I'm not dressing her three seconds.

00:30:17
Speaker 4: Ever, it's not It's not about the three seconds some I mean, Gabby, sometimes I would just feel like, Okay, you don't even need me. By the way, I'll go back and laying down with her again, and we really was she really she was so simple. When she knew she wanted it, she just put it on and she was done.

00:30:36
Speaker 3: Wow.

00:30:37
Speaker 5: Yeah, and she had fantastic looks. No, she really did that green like metal one that we did.

00:30:43
Speaker 3: I'm obsessed with that one.

00:30:45
Speaker 2: And then I think there was one where she had like a big slit on the side.

00:30:48
Speaker 4: It was like Gabby's was my most scary of all because I was always so afraid. There's a person I found out at Warner Brothers or actually that works for us. That is they call him Carrie, and I thought they were making fun of him, but his name is actually Carry, I guess. But he goes in and every nipple, every too much side cleavage. We have people who are very very precise about what can be shown on ABC, the nipple Police, the nipple Police, the sideboot police, and I am always so I just started thinking people just okay, yeah, I'm getting away with it. They actually hired somebody that would have to call her in every singles, I mean every frame they would have to call.

00:31:40
Speaker 3: Did you have a lot of black box moments?

00:31:42
Speaker 1: No? But I know Gabby.

00:31:46
Speaker 5: Because they were always like you have to have them.

00:31:50
Speaker 4: Because she would never put him on, and then she'd walk out without me. S. I mean, Gabby was already half room and I commence.

00:31:58
Speaker 1: I just remember She's like, I sleep in these thing that this gay under everything.

00:32:02
Speaker 3: Oh my goodness.

00:32:04
Speaker 4: Gabby's was the most naked where she was.

00:32:09
Speaker 2: I think that's where I was like, oh I because obviously you guys were right before me.

00:32:12
Speaker 3: I was like, I can push a little bit. I'm like Gabby.

00:32:15
Speaker 2: I remember literally saying, Gabby did this, so I'm gonna like sheer pants.

00:32:20
Speaker 4: Let's do it. Weren't you the one that I had to change the lining of the dress twice because I thought if I just dropped in one color. It was a dress that we thought was so gorgeous. It was beaded and it was, but I kept looking at going but there's an old ladiness to it, Wasn't it?

00:32:39
Speaker 3: The I don't know and.

00:32:41
Speaker 4: I needed on my season.

00:32:43
Speaker 3: Was the gold one. Probably it was so heavy, Yes, that dress heavy.

00:32:48
Speaker 4: But we with a lining in it it was so nothing. Yeah, yes, I lifted the lining out, not counting on the fact of that if there was a light come from behind her, you could see everything and make a dress. Was like little by little. I so when we start, and those first nights are so long to begin with, and so that it's you know, you're all standing in those heels in that water that's freezing, and those dresses are soaking up all of the water. So when people ask me why is everybody in sequenced the first night, it's because they can't absorb absorb. I can't dry it fast enough in between, and that dress is now all the way up to here, and I just looking and like, Okay, guess what we're doing netting or we're doing this.

00:33:41
Speaker 1: Yes, this has.

00:33:44
Speaker 5: Been so much fun and there is so much more to come. So we will have part two with Carrie coming tomorrow. To make sure you tune into Fie