Jewel "Pieces of You" (1995): Track by Track!

<v Speaker 1>Hey, gif, Hey Brad, you know there's something we don't
<v Speaker 1>speak about often.
<v Speaker 2>What's that?
<v Speaker 1>Jason and d if Surely you can't be serious. They
<v Speaker 1>were meant for.
<v Speaker 2>Us, that's right, and you ought to know that they
<v Speaker 2>were meant for you. The listeners too, So.
<v Speaker 1>Listen to find out who comes out on top of
<v Speaker 1>this titillating three way they've entered into.
<v Speaker 2>It's time for a jewel of an episode of Surely
<v Speaker 2>you can't be serious?
<v Speaker 3>Okay, Jason, I know this, You know we've already done
<v Speaker 3>what the heck happened? Episode? But just throwing it back,
<v Speaker 3>can you name me one good thing that came out
<v Speaker 3>of the movie Batman and Robin.
<v Speaker 4>Bat nipples?
<v Speaker 3>I said, good thing? Uh, don't say jiggly crotches. No,
<v Speaker 3>one good thing that came out of No. I really
<v Speaker 3>I can't know, Okay, So I'm a tell you there
<v Speaker 3>was a song on the soundtrack that set the Guinness
<v Speaker 3>Book of World Records for longest single in the charts
<v Speaker 3>off the Batman and Robin soundtrack Guinness Book World. We
<v Speaker 3>spent sixty five weeks in the top one hundred charts.
<v Speaker 4>That's a long crap time, man.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well it just so happened that it was on
<v Speaker 3>this little album called Pieces of You by Jewel, and
<v Speaker 3>it's a little song called Foolish Games and you were
<v Speaker 3>meant for me because they were the A and B
<v Speaker 3>side of an album, and so they out of the
<v Speaker 3>soundtrack Foolish Games, Batman and Robin, we get a record
<v Speaker 3>breaking single.
<v Speaker 4>That's fantastic. Man, I can't wait to talk about this one.
<v Speaker 3>So, guys, we are here today to talk part two
<v Speaker 3>of our Menage TOOI of Alanis Morissett and Win Stefani,
<v Speaker 3>and today we're talking about Jewel, a three way comparison, if.
<v Speaker 4>You will, Ladies of the nineties.
<v Speaker 3>I am so excited to talk about this album. Every
<v Speaker 3>single one of these albums I owned in the nineties
<v Speaker 3>and at some point was in love with the lead
<v Speaker 3>singer or singer, you know, only singer in all of
<v Speaker 3>these bands and artists.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, to be a guy our age is to love
<v Speaker 4>each of these women in their own special way.
<v Speaker 3>And this one, I gotta say this one, Jewel, I
<v Speaker 3>was most in love with because I didn't go for
<v Speaker 3>the cheerleader. I was for the girl who would write
<v Speaker 3>in her journal and kind of you know, look sideways
<v Speaker 3>at the cheerleader girls, and by golly, that's Jewel all
<v Speaker 3>over the place. And she was also hot. I was
<v Speaker 3>just like, can she get any better? Oh? Yes, she
<v Speaker 3>can sing incredibly well. So she's hit me in all
<v Speaker 3>three buttons. I mean, back in nineteen ninety six as
<v Speaker 3>well as now. So Jewel, you know, if you're out there,
<v Speaker 3>if you're watching, hey listen, slide into my DMS. Yeah
<v Speaker 3>all right.
<v Speaker 4>One of the things that we have talked about before,
<v Speaker 4>and I don't want to be a pig about this,
<v Speaker 4>but one of the things we've talked about before, when
<v Speaker 4>we talk about when we just us beautiful women, one
<v Speaker 4>of the things that makes their beauty enhanced in our
<v Speaker 4>eyes sometimes is their imperfections. Yeah, and she has one
<v Speaker 4>sort of prominent imperfection, but still is.
<v Speaker 3>Just endearing to me. I love it. I love her smile.
<v Speaker 3>I love it.
<v Speaker 4>She has a beautiful smile.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Okay, So Alanus mor Sat Canada yep, Jewel Alaska, Yep.
<v Speaker 3>We got a we got a couple of girls north
<v Speaker 3>of the borderline here, I know, right, speaking of people
<v Speaker 3>north of the borderline. Thank you to our executive producer today,
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<v Speaker 4>This is pieces of You that was released February twenty
<v Speaker 4>eighth of ninety five.
<v Speaker 3>Now that's an interesting subject before we dive into the
<v Speaker 3>songs here. This album came out in February of ninety five,
<v Speaker 3>and I don't think I remember listening to it until
<v Speaker 3>at least ninety seven. I agree with you, I always
<v Speaker 3>I think it was the beginning of ninety seven when
<v Speaker 3>I started listening to it.
<v Speaker 4>So it's almost the exact opposite of Jagged Little Pill,
<v Speaker 4>where you want to Know comes out. K Rock drops
<v Speaker 4>it and everybody's like, who is this girl? We've got
<v Speaker 4>to have this album?
<v Speaker 3>Nuclear bomb, yes, nuclear Bomb now, but but Pieces of
<v Speaker 3>You it didn't sell two years to get go years
<v Speaker 3>stops and restarts and redos.
<v Speaker 4>And she was already working on her second album when
<v Speaker 4>this album started to take traction.
<v Speaker 3>Yes, and she has Bob Dylan probably to thank for that.
<v Speaker 3>I know.
<v Speaker 4>That's a great story. Let's get into it, okay.
<v Speaker 3>So we're gonna jump in and thank you Jule for
<v Speaker 3>putting one of the best songs on the album as
<v Speaker 3>the first song on the album. And this is the first.
<v Speaker 4>Song she ever wrote sixteen years old.
<v Speaker 3>This is who will Save Your soul? Your soul when
<v Speaker 3>it comes to the.
<v Speaker 5>Same Also, those lies soul.
<v Speaker 3>Okay, So I just got to say, you can chalk
<v Speaker 3>some of this music up to coffeehouse girl. I can't
<v Speaker 3>agree with you on any of these songs. Like, I
<v Speaker 3>get that that's where she started, but these songs are
<v Speaker 3>so well written, and you you know, you grab that
<v Speaker 3>moment in a person's life when she's sixteen to eighteen
<v Speaker 3>years old. You're feeling emotions stronger at that age than
<v Speaker 3>you feel them any other time in your life. Sure
<v Speaker 3>you haven't been jaded and calloused by how bad life
<v Speaker 3>can be, but you've definitely been impacted by it. She
<v Speaker 3>was freaking homeless as she's writing some of these songs,
<v Speaker 3>playing guitars on the street, living out of her van,
<v Speaker 3>and writing some stuff that just is mind blowingly complex.
<v Speaker 3>I mean, I'm thinking she's two years older than my
<v Speaker 3>youngest daughter and writing songs about how everyone wants to
<v Speaker 3>be saved by something like everybody's looking for a savior
<v Speaker 3>and they're all confused about who that savior should be.
<v Speaker 3>I can pick out a line in almost every one
<v Speaker 3>of these songs. I mean, all the lyrics are great,
<v Speaker 3>but this one is so we pray to as many
<v Speaker 3>different gods as there are flowers. But we call religion
<v Speaker 3>our friend. We're so worried about saving our souls, afraid
<v Speaker 3>that God will take his toll, that we forget to begin.
<v Speaker 3>That's freaking awesome.
<v Speaker 4>Sixteen years old when she wrote that, Yeah, so.
<v Speaker 3>We prayed a flowers the religion of friend.
<v Speaker 4>This is her first song she ever writes. Yeah, and
<v Speaker 4>it becomes this number eleven smash on the Hot one hundred.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah you.
<v Speaker 4>So, before we get into this, I'm a hot one
<v Speaker 4>hundred guy. The Hot one hundred meant something to me.
<v Speaker 4>This is where it starts to crumble, because there's some
<v Speaker 4>funny things that happen on the charts, and we'll discuss it.
<v Speaker 4>But here is your top ten.
<v Speaker 3>What year? What's the year?
<v Speaker 4>Oh it's ninety six.
<v Speaker 3>Ninety six, Okay, So the album comes out February of
<v Speaker 3>ninety five. So you went through all of ninety five
<v Speaker 3>and didn't hear it, right, and so win in ninety six?
<v Speaker 3>Is this August third of ninety six. Almost all of
<v Speaker 3>ninety six goes by, and not until you've how many
<v Speaker 3>what is that? A year and a half?
<v Speaker 4>Year and a half.
<v Speaker 3>That is a year and a half has gone by
<v Speaker 3>before this one peaks out.
<v Speaker 4>Now, I'll tell you I remember August third, nineteen ninety
<v Speaker 4>six very well. Okay, because of the day I got married.
<v Speaker 4>Oh well, okay, that was my that's my wedding anniversary.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.
<v Speaker 4>So but here's your top ten from August third of
<v Speaker 4>ninety six. Okay, and this is another reason why I
<v Speaker 4>started to lose interest in the nineties. Okay, So number
<v Speaker 4>ten You've got because you loved Me Celine Dion.
<v Speaker 3>I actually liked that song.
<v Speaker 4>But I mean, Celen Dion's a very gifted singer.
<v Speaker 3>And we talked last We talked last week about this
<v Speaker 3>was the time period for mom rock. Right, it's it's
<v Speaker 3>mom rock.
<v Speaker 4>There's not a lot of rock in this chart here.
<v Speaker 3>Okay.
<v Speaker 4>Number nine is Lounging by El cool j. Okay, remember
<v Speaker 4>that one, no, No. No. Number eight is The Crossroads by
<v Speaker 4>Bone Thugs and Harmony.
<v Speaker 3>Okay.
<v Speaker 4>Number seven is You're All I Need to Get By
<v Speaker 4>by Mary J. Blige.
<v Speaker 3>Okay.
<v Speaker 4>Number six is Give Me One Reason by Tracy Chapman. Okay,
<v Speaker 4>that's a pretty good one. Number five is I Can't
<v Speaker 4>Sleep Baby by R Kelly.
<v Speaker 3>It is what it is. It is.
<v Speaker 4>Number four is California Love by Tupac, probably his best
<v Speaker 4>known song for mainstream people.
<v Speaker 3>Number three is Twisted.
<v Speaker 4>By Keith Sweat. Number two is You're Making Me High
<v Speaker 4>by Tony Braxton, and number one is.
<v Speaker 3>The Macarine. That is not a good list.
<v Speaker 4>That is not a good list.
<v Speaker 3>No. I mean, if you like, if you like rap
<v Speaker 3>of the nineties and R and B, it's R and B.
<v Speaker 4>But it's not there's no rock, there's no there's not
<v Speaker 4>even any grunge.
<v Speaker 3>No. Yeah, that's kind of crazy, you know. Yeah, so
<v Speaker 3>I guess we'd move past it at that point. Really, well,
<v Speaker 3>don't we even have post grunge? In this she talks.
<v Speaker 4>About one of the reasons why she feels like she
<v Speaker 4>succeeded is because she answered the question that grunge posed. Yeah,
<v Speaker 4>grunge said I'm in pain, what am I going to do?
<v Speaker 4>And her music was kind of an answer to grudge.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.
<v Speaker 4>So I have heard her talk about this song. Obviously
<v Speaker 4>she's very grateful to this song. Yeah, it put her
<v Speaker 4>on the map. It turned her into a superstar, she
<v Speaker 4>said it. Also, when she listens to it, she says
<v Speaker 4>she sounds like Kermit the Frog.
<v Speaker 3>That's her talking about it. I can, and I know
<v Speaker 3>the part that yeah no, but I literally, as we
<v Speaker 3>were listening to it, I was thinking to myself, what
<v Speaker 3>she does with her voice in this song shows you
<v Speaker 3>an incredible amount of vocal control and range. I mean,
<v Speaker 3>she's singing like Kermit, yes a little bit, but she's
<v Speaker 3>also talking a little bit. She's hitting the higher register,
<v Speaker 3>the lower register. She's putting all of the emotion into
<v Speaker 3>the words as well, and a storytelling kind of vibe
<v Speaker 3>to what she's saying. I mean, it's just she's.
<v Speaker 4>Kind of sweet talking a little bit. It's is it rapping, It's.
<v Speaker 3>Not rapping, but it's it's got a cadence. Yeah, it's
<v Speaker 3>got a kind of Aerosmith kind of cadence to it.
<v Speaker 3>Of a quick paced song. Yeah.
<v Speaker 4>Okay, So here's the story on this song. Okay, so
<v Speaker 4>and we'll talk about this. But she was raised in Alaska.
<v Speaker 4>She's born in Utah, moved to Alaska with her family.
<v Speaker 4>They homesteaded. They had no running water, no central heat.
<v Speaker 3>Her grandfather, whose name was Yule Kilcher, Yes, he came over.
<v Speaker 3>I think he was born in nineteen thirteen, came over
<v Speaker 3>in nineteen thirty six from Switzerland and he was on
<v Speaker 3>the Constitutional Convention for Alaska. He was the guy who
<v Speaker 3>was advocating for homesteading, created a documentary movie, went back
<v Speaker 3>to Switzerland to try to get people to come out
<v Speaker 3>in homestead in Alaska. But they had an entire, like
<v Speaker 3>you said, homestead that grew from that first one hundred
<v Speaker 3>and sixty acres that you were given back then to
<v Speaker 3>six hundred and now her dad hosts a show about
<v Speaker 3>the Alaskan Frontier.
<v Speaker 4>It's on the Discovery Channel. Oh, I know, it's incredible,
<v Speaker 4>it's crazy. And she took her son there and was
<v Speaker 4>kind of teaching him the ways of the land. Yeah.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, like you said, she grew up without running water.
<v Speaker 3>She worked the land, she worked the horses, She did
<v Speaker 3>hard labor on really difficult to work conditions. And we're
<v Speaker 3>talking about Alaska year. Yeah.
<v Speaker 4>And you know, you talked about how she was homeless
<v Speaker 4>for a time, she lived out of her van, and
<v Speaker 4>that's all true, but that wasn't particularly hard to somebody
<v Speaker 4>who peed in an outhouse for the first fifteen years
<v Speaker 4>of her life, you know. Yeah, So she's a tough
<v Speaker 4>Alaska woman. Now, the story of this song is interesting.
<v Speaker 4>I don't know if you know a lot about it.
<v Speaker 4>So when she was young, she was in Alaska, she
<v Speaker 4>kind of bussed around from Anchorage to Homer and Homer
<v Speaker 4>to Anchorage, and her family life was a little rough.
<v Speaker 4>Her dad was kind of tough to live with, kind
<v Speaker 4>of a tough guy.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean her mom had abandoned her when she
<v Speaker 3>was eight. Yes, she actually her aunt, whose name was
<v Speaker 3>Massi Kilcher, kind of became her surrogate mom. But again
<v Speaker 3>worked her like she was a hard working lady and
<v Speaker 3>would had a little bed and breakfast and like Jewel
<v Speaker 3>had to go make the beds and go clean up
<v Speaker 3>after people had been in for the bed and breakfast.
<v Speaker 3>But Massie actually had an album back in nineteen seventy seventies.
<v Speaker 4>Said that to me today anyway, it's if.
<v Speaker 3>You listen to it, I'm like I can see where
<v Speaker 3>she was influenced by her aunt singing. It gained kind
<v Speaker 3>of a cult following in the folk music scene. It's
<v Speaker 3>not bad album. Like you can find it on Spotify.
<v Speaker 3>Go check it out, Massi Kilcher.
<v Speaker 4>Massi Kilcher.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.
<v Speaker 4>So her mom and her dad had a little musical
<v Speaker 4>traveling variety show and they did that while she was young.
<v Speaker 4>Mom and dad broke up divorced in nineteen eighty one.
<v Speaker 4>Mom split, Mom decided she would didn't want to be
<v Speaker 4>a mom anymore, didn't want to do it anymore, and
<v Speaker 4>so dad was kind of left in charge of these
<v Speaker 4>three kids, including Jewel and her two other brothers. Mom
<v Speaker 4>moved to San Diego, kind of was a hippie spiritualist,
<v Speaker 4>joined a cult, was a little bit out there. So
<v Speaker 4>Jule she saw like an advertisement for dance lessons and
<v Speaker 4>she thought, well, I've always kind of wanted to dance,
<v Speaker 4>and so she went to this dance lesson place in
<v Speaker 4>Homer when it was a guy who was kind of
<v Speaker 4>traveling around kind of looking for talent, and he said,
<v Speaker 4>you're not really a good dancer, but I can hear
<v Speaker 4>in your voice that you might be a good singer.
<v Speaker 4>And she's like, oh, yeah, I love to sing. I
<v Speaker 4>know had a yodel.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. So when her mom left, you mentioned that they
<v Speaker 3>had had a singing Her mother and father had had
<v Speaker 3>a singing act together. When her mom left, she came
<v Speaker 3>in and took her mom's place. At eight years old,
<v Speaker 3>they weren't doing shows at the church, they were doing
<v Speaker 3>shows at the bar. So she's like, I'm pretty sure
<v Speaker 3>I'm the only fourth grader who would leave school and
<v Speaker 3>go straight to the bar and sing my mom's parts
<v Speaker 3>for this musical show. So she'd been singing since she
<v Speaker 3>was eight in these shows to make money. Like they were.
<v Speaker 3>This wasn't for fun, this was because they needed this
<v Speaker 3>to survive. And she got her hours and hours of
<v Speaker 3>experience that everybody needs. So by the time she was
<v Speaker 3>fifteen when she hit the dance school and then she
<v Speaker 3>gets a scholarship to this interlock In place.
<v Speaker 4>She got a half scholarship to interlock In. Yeah, and
<v Speaker 4>her first year's tuition was eleven thousand dollars, And immediately
<v Speaker 4>she thought, I don't I don't have two dollars. How
<v Speaker 4>am I going to do this? And her mom, who
<v Speaker 4>was there at that moment, was saying, well, let's lay
<v Speaker 4>it out.
<v Speaker 3>You know, what do you need?
<v Speaker 4>You need eleven thousand dollars. Okay, what can you do
<v Speaker 4>to earn eleven thousand dollars? So they came up with
<v Speaker 4>this idea, We're going to put on a charity like
<v Speaker 4>in town concert, you know, local talent. Girl Jewel needs
<v Speaker 4>a money for a scholarship. So they raised about five
<v Speaker 4>thousand bucks at this little concert in town, and a
<v Speaker 4>local celebrity came through for her to cover the rest
<v Speaker 4>of the money to send her to this school. Tom
<v Speaker 4>Bodette from Motel six, Motel six, Oh my gosh, we'll
<v Speaker 4>leave the lad on for you. Wow. He was the
<v Speaker 4>guy who paid the second half, like five grand or
<v Speaker 4>whatever six grand was to send her to Michigan.
<v Speaker 3>Were blowing my mind here, man Tombodette, I mean, I mean,
<v Speaker 3>she said, Tombodette, and it took me a sad a
<v Speaker 3>Motel six of their renovated rooms.
<v Speaker 1>Motel six is doing its first big special effects commercial ever.
<v Speaker 3>Here goes cool. I'm dom Bodette.
<v Speaker 1>We'll leave the light on for you.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.
<v Speaker 4>So he was a major contributor to the start of
<v Speaker 4>her career.
<v Speaker 3>Without Tom Bodette, without Motel six, if you've ever stayed
<v Speaker 3>in a Motel six, you contributed to the success of Jewel.
<v Speaker 4>That's exactly right.
<v Speaker 5>Wow.
<v Speaker 4>So anyway, so Jewel moves to Michigan and during her
<v Speaker 4>first year, she's literally the only person there without you know,
<v Speaker 4>she looks around as private school, you got to have
<v Speaker 4>money to go here. People's parents are like involved and
<v Speaker 4>like helping them and like they're buying you books and clothes,
<v Speaker 4>and so it's a very different experience for her. Every
<v Speaker 4>time there was a break, she had to find a
<v Speaker 4>place to go, Like everybody's going home for Christmas, not me.
<v Speaker 3>I got nowhere to go. She was the Harry Potter
<v Speaker 3>of the internet.
<v Speaker 4>Kind of true, right, So she managed I think she
<v Speaker 4>she talked to a professor who was going to be
<v Speaker 4>out of town and left a key for her that
<v Speaker 4>was kind of against the rules, but allowed her to
<v Speaker 4>stay in a safe place anyway. So spring break comes
<v Speaker 4>around and she's like, what am I gonna do for
<v Speaker 4>spring break? Can't stay here? Going to lock down the dorms.
<v Speaker 4>So she decides to hitchhike and hop trains to San Diego.
<v Speaker 4>Why where her mom's staying. And her mom, you know,
<v Speaker 4>she breezes through, sees her mom continues on to Tijuana.
<v Speaker 3>Because that's what you're gonna I mean, you're in San Diego. Yeah,
<v Speaker 3>you're seventeen years old.
<v Speaker 4>I mean you're a homeless girl, because why why not?
<v Speaker 4>And then she proceeds to hitchhike around Mexico with her
<v Speaker 4>guitar and a journal. And that's it.
<v Speaker 3>The fact that she survived. That is a miracle in
<v Speaker 3>and of it.
<v Speaker 4>It's crazy. So she writes this song while hitchhiking and
<v Speaker 4>busking across Mexico.
<v Speaker 3>There you go, by the way.
<v Speaker 4>The music video it was nominated for like Best Music
<v Speaker 4>Video of ninety seven. I watched it. It's a nothing video.
<v Speaker 3>It's kind of every breath you take like, it's just
<v Speaker 3>black and white artistic photography style of it. It's not flashy,
<v Speaker 3>it's not you know, it's her and a guitar. It's
<v Speaker 3>not Britney Spears.
<v Speaker 4>That's true.
<v Speaker 3>It's not Brittany. It's the antithsis of Britney Spears.
<v Speaker 4>Right, if you wanted to go to this location, you
<v Speaker 4>need to go to the women's bathroom at the LA
<v Speaker 4>City Hall, and that's where the video was shot.
<v Speaker 3>Why not you got to shoot it somewhere? Why not
<v Speaker 3>the bathroom a city hall? That's right? Okay, So I
<v Speaker 3>hate to cut this short because it's actually not sure.
<v Speaker 3>We've been going on for a while. We got fourteen
<v Speaker 3>songs in this album. We gotta move on. We got
<v Speaker 3>to move on. This is a fantastic song. I'm glad
<v Speaker 3>that we've hit it, but we've got to go on.
<v Speaker 3>So song number two, Pieces of You.
<v Speaker 5>She's an ugly girl. Make you want to kill her?
<v Speaker 5>She's an ugly girl. Do you want to kick in
<v Speaker 5>her face? She's an ugly girl. She doesn't interpose a thread.
<v Speaker 5>She's an ugly girl.
<v Speaker 3>So we've moved into a little intensity here. Yeah.
<v Speaker 4>When I first listened to song last week or whatever,
<v Speaker 4>I'd heard it before, but the lyrics shocked me. I
<v Speaker 4>wasn't prepared for that. Yeah, because of this song, she
<v Speaker 4>was called homophobic, anti semitic.
<v Speaker 3>This is literally a song in defense of these people,
<v Speaker 3>like this is this is calling out the people who
<v Speaker 3>do these things.
<v Speaker 4>What she is using a couple of slurs, right, but
<v Speaker 4>her point is you hate these people because you hate yourself. Yeah,
<v Speaker 4>that's a carled young Yes.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, that's nuts. I mean that's that's literally nuts
<v Speaker 3>that you would write a song to condemn people who
<v Speaker 3>think this way and then get accused of thinking that
<v Speaker 3>way because of the lyrics that you've written.
<v Speaker 4>I saw her standing on stage talking about it.
<v Speaker 3>Oh my gosh, So that's crazy.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, this song has a beauty to it, certainly.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's beautiful song. And I you know, as we
<v Speaker 3>were listening to it, some of these songs were recorded
<v Speaker 3>in the studio, and some of these songs were recorded live.
<v Speaker 3>And I'm listening to this and just the kind of
<v Speaker 3>it may just be a reverb effect, but there's a
<v Speaker 3>hallway sound to it that makes me think it might
<v Speaker 3>be live. But you don't hear any audience in this.
<v Speaker 3>But this is a song where the audience is going
<v Speaker 3>to be absolutely hushed, that's right. I mean, you're not
<v Speaker 3>going to be cheering at this song, right.
<v Speaker 4>I heard her talk about why she does that or
<v Speaker 4>why she did that for her debut album. Yeah, she
<v Speaker 4>felt like in studio she couldn't be as like emotional,
<v Speaker 4>kind of out there, kind of on her game, and
<v Speaker 4>so those live performances she felt like was a better
<v Speaker 4>showing of her talent.
<v Speaker 3>Absolutely, And she said the difficulty with working in the
<v Speaker 3>studio as you're staring at a wall, right. But on
<v Speaker 3>this album, the parts that were done in the studio
<v Speaker 3>were done in Neil Young's studio at his ranch, right.
<v Speaker 3>And the band that would play with her was his band,
<v Speaker 3>Stray Gators, And she said it was those guys that
<v Speaker 3>kind of helped push her through this because I mean
<v Speaker 3>it sounded, from what she said like basically she was
<v Speaker 3>kind of performing for them, and then she was like,
<v Speaker 3>I've never done this before, and so I'm like, did
<v Speaker 3>that sound good? And she said they wouldn't say yes
<v Speaker 3>it sound good or no it didn't sound good. They'd say,
<v Speaker 3>what do you think? Did you like it? And kind
<v Speaker 3>of pushed her to be a judge of her own
<v Speaker 3>music and the quality of her own music. And if
<v Speaker 3>she was like I don't know, then they're like, then
<v Speaker 3>let's do it again. I did hear her say that.
<v Speaker 3>One time when she first met Neil Young. She walked
<v Speaker 3>into a room. It was Neil Young and his daughter.
<v Speaker 4>His daughter was like eight okay, young girl, okay, okay,
<v Speaker 4>and she was just trying to kind of strike up
<v Speaker 4>conversations like, hey, you know that song that you do
<v Speaker 4>is that in c she said. He looked at her,
<v Speaker 4>looked down, shok his head walked out. She's like, that's
<v Speaker 4>really weird, Like he didn't even answer me, and the
<v Speaker 4>daughter goes, oh, don't worry. He always does that when
<v Speaker 4>he thinks the question is stupid.
<v Speaker 3>Oh I feel much better, Yeah, thank you, thank you.
<v Speaker 3>Don't worry thinks you're stupid.
<v Speaker 4>Yes, okay, all right, next time on the album number three.
<v Speaker 4>This song is called Little Sister, Your little Sister.
<v Speaker 5>I heard you into mister so and so knock knock,
<v Speaker 5>knocking on.
<v Speaker 3>His dog again last night, said you needed in bed.
<v Speaker 3>You know that, right? All the confusion of a nation
<v Speaker 3>that starves for salvation. But clothing is the closest approximation
<v Speaker 3>to God, and he only knows that drugs are all
<v Speaker 3>we know of love. That's that's solid, that is solid.
<v Speaker 3>So you love that poetry. And so she you know,
<v Speaker 3>like I said, she's eight year old kid playing in
<v Speaker 3>these bars, and so she sees these women that are
<v Speaker 3>doing things to appeal to men that she is troubled by.
<v Speaker 3>And then she sees these men who are using alcohol
<v Speaker 3>and drugs to escape their lives, which is troubling to her.
<v Speaker 3>And why she said, I've never done alcohol, never done drugs,
<v Speaker 3>because I watched what happened with these people, and I
<v Speaker 3>didn't want that to happen to me. That's what this
<v Speaker 3>song is about. Like that crazy for a love that
<v Speaker 3>seems to only come from this illicit substance.
<v Speaker 4>You know, I heard her talk about this song. She said,
<v Speaker 4>So she's separated in Alaska, she wasn't exposed to much
<v Speaker 4>pop culture up there at all. So the idea of her,
<v Speaker 4>I mean, she's our age hearing bon Jovi in Alaska
<v Speaker 4>just didn't happen, right, right, So that allowed her to
<v Speaker 4>create her own sound and her own music. Dad had
<v Speaker 4>exposed hers to some of the classics, you know, Joni Mitchell. Yeah,
<v Speaker 4>but in high school she heard Neil Young's song Needle
<v Speaker 4>Damage Done and imagined that character from that song, I
<v Speaker 4>want to take this story further, like what is she like?
<v Speaker 3>Now?
<v Speaker 4>Who is this girl? And expanded and wrote this song
<v Speaker 4>from that perspective.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and it's beautiful and haunting. I mean you mentioned
<v Speaker 3>it's got that sound like it's you feel like you're
<v Speaker 3>in a room, right, you feel like you're in a
<v Speaker 3>coffee house room with her. Yes, So I feel like
<v Speaker 3>this definitely could be one of those ones that's not
<v Speaker 3>a studio take. This is one of the live recordings. Okay,
<v Speaker 3>I don't know, but that's what that's that's the vibe.
<v Speaker 4>I I'm not sure. Yeah, next song on the album
<v Speaker 4>Heavy Hitter.
<v Speaker 3>This song is called Foolish Gapes. He took.
<v Speaker 1>It Stodn't.
<v Speaker 3>You're always crazy? Like Cloud? Okay, let's talk Batman and
<v Speaker 3>Robin Where does this song even come in the movie?
<v Speaker 4>How does it fit on that soundtrack?
<v Speaker 3>Where in that movie is it appropriate for us to
<v Speaker 3>get this emotionally deep like heartbreaking?
<v Speaker 4>So we just watched that movie.
<v Speaker 3>We just watched it. Did you hear it?
<v Speaker 5>No?
<v Speaker 3>I didn't either. I need to know where it is. Yeah,
<v Speaker 3>I mean maybe they played it in the credits, and
<v Speaker 3>I wasn't watching anymore. I don't.
<v Speaker 4>Maybe I just took me three running starts of that movie.
<v Speaker 3>Anyway. So here's the thing.
<v Speaker 4>So this is where the hot one hundred gets weird.
<v Speaker 3>It does get a little weird. Okay, so this you know,
<v Speaker 3>we're we're going to talk about another song in here
<v Speaker 3>in a minute. And this was the B side to
<v Speaker 3>that single.
<v Speaker 4>That's right.
<v Speaker 3>Basically that single went up, peaked was starting to come
<v Speaker 3>back down, but the DJs wanted to They're like, hey,
<v Speaker 3>B side's good too. They start playing the B side
<v Speaker 3>and then it starts to come back up again. But
<v Speaker 3>with some weird way that the Billboard chart rankings work,
<v Speaker 3>they had to somehow go, well, now that's the A side,
<v Speaker 3>each other's the B side. But by doing that, that's
<v Speaker 3>how this foolish games you were meant for me. You
<v Speaker 3>Were Meant for Me spent so many weeks on the
<v Speaker 3>hot one hundred without ever falling out. We talked to you.
<v Speaker 3>You mentioned when we did air supply, we saw the
<v Speaker 3>quickest drop out of the top forty I think is
<v Speaker 3>what it was like, from five to six to forty two. Yes, right,
<v Speaker 3>And with this one, you just it never got out,
<v Speaker 3>just kind of kept hovering in there for over a year.
<v Speaker 3>It's crazy.
<v Speaker 4>So You Were Meant for Me, which is a song
<v Speaker 4>we're going to talk about here in just a little bit.
<v Speaker 4>It reached number two with Foolish Games as the B side,
<v Speaker 4>as you said, and then as it started to fall,
<v Speaker 4>they flipped those and Foolish Games went back up. It
<v Speaker 4>only made it to number seven, but it gets credit
<v Speaker 4>for hitting number two because it was the B side
<v Speaker 4>on the single for you You Were Meant for Me.
<v Speaker 4>So technically Foolish Games only hits number seven, but it
<v Speaker 4>gets credit for.
<v Speaker 3>Hitting number two. It's really weird.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, by the way, the song that blocked these two
<v Speaker 4>songs from hitting number one, Yeah, Can't Nobody Hold Me
<v Speaker 4>Down by P Didty Puff Daddy or whatever it was,
<v Speaker 4>got R Kelly and P Didty in the same episode. Yes, yeah,
<v Speaker 4>a change in music was happening at this point. Now
<v Speaker 4>I was not familiar with that song, but the number
<v Speaker 4>three song was The Spice Girls. If you want to
<v Speaker 4>be my.
<v Speaker 3>Lover, that's great. Yeah, okay I got two lines from
<v Speaker 3>this one, all right, okay. You were always the mysterious
<v Speaker 3>one with dark eyes and careless hair, fashionably sensitive but
<v Speaker 3>too cool to care. And I hid my soiled hands
<v Speaker 3>behind my back. Somewhere along the way, I must have
<v Speaker 3>gone off track. You've heard these first two or three songs,
<v Speaker 3>and then all of a sudden, it's like, is this
<v Speaker 3>the same singer? This sounds like a mature adult singing
<v Speaker 3>this song, like a woman who's had a genuine life experience.
<v Speaker 3>And it's wonderful because this is kind of the her
<v Speaker 3>you ought to know, right this is you were wonderful.
<v Speaker 3>I was madly in love with you, and now you
<v Speaker 3>just seem to be this worthless piece of craft.
<v Speaker 4>Well excuse me, because some mistaken you for somebody.
<v Speaker 3>Can somebody something more like myself less care but it's
<v Speaker 3>still heartbreaking. You've got the piano instead of the guitar,
<v Speaker 3>and it's just it's a twist on what we've heard
<v Speaker 3>up until this moment in the album, and I can
<v Speaker 3>tell you in nineteen ninety seven, I was like, hold
<v Speaker 3>the phones, what is this? This is awesome.
<v Speaker 4>This is the second biggest single of ninety seven. Once again.
<v Speaker 4>This album was released in what February of ninety five.
<v Speaker 4>Beautiful song and the music video on this has kind
<v Speaker 4>of a everything that's blue. It's kind of got that
<v Speaker 4>blue filter on it. But this was the first time
<v Speaker 4>I went remember that cute girl from the video in
<v Speaker 4>the women's bathroom. This girl is very beautiful. She dulled
<v Speaker 4>herself up and cut a lot of attention from the
<v Speaker 4>guys in my college classes.
<v Speaker 3>So yeah, all right, next song on the album, This
<v Speaker 3>song is called near You Always. He's don't see those
<v Speaker 3>she loves too deeply? They nick my coat.
<v Speaker 5>Look, don't think you realize the effect you hair? He
<v Speaker 5>pull me.
<v Speaker 3>Please, don't up with me like that. You've ever been
<v Speaker 3>so in love that it actually hurts? Here it is
<v Speaker 3>in a song. Yeah.
<v Speaker 4>One of the things I like to do more than
<v Speaker 4>anything in the world is go snow skiing. Okay, And
<v Speaker 4>every time I go snow skiing, you end up at
<v Speaker 4>these little Colorado small towns and there's always somebody with
<v Speaker 4>a guitar in a corner singing while you're eating dinner
<v Speaker 4>or whatever. And this song just kind of makes me
<v Speaker 4>think of those moments.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, sure, sure, for me, this is this was totally
<v Speaker 3>those moments in high school when you know you're in
<v Speaker 3>your first serious relationship and your love for her is
<v Speaker 3>so strong that you feel like your heart's gonna burst
<v Speaker 3>out of your chest every time you even see her.
<v Speaker 3>And so yeah, here's the here's the lyric quote for
<v Speaker 3>me on this one. Please don't kiss me so sweet
<v Speaker 3>it makes me crave a thousand kisses to follow. And
<v Speaker 3>these don't touch me like that makes every other embrace
<v Speaker 3>seem pale and shallow. Yep, liquid joy.
<v Speaker 4>Right now. Okay, I got to tell you the story
<v Speaker 4>about how she was discovered. Okay, after she goes on
<v Speaker 4>her hitchhiking trip, she goes back to the Art Institute
<v Speaker 4>in Michigan. She graduates from there, and after that she decides,
<v Speaker 4>Mom's in San Diego seems like a good place. I'm
<v Speaker 4>gonna meander down there and see what's happening. She's like, well,
<v Speaker 4>I've got a van. I'll just live in my van
<v Speaker 4>and I'll go around to these coffee houses and I'll
<v Speaker 4>play music from the old days and I'll earn a
<v Speaker 4>living that way. So she went to a coffee house.
<v Speaker 4>When she first got her start in a particular coffee house,
<v Speaker 4>she had her tip jar and then at the end
<v Speaker 4>she went up to the owner and said, well, how
<v Speaker 4>much of the entry fee do I get? And the
<v Speaker 4>owner said, well, you don't get any of that money.
<v Speaker 4>You get the tip jar. I get the entry fee.
<v Speaker 4>And she's like, well that's that's not fair. You know,
<v Speaker 4>I'm the reason why these people are in here. She
<v Speaker 4>got upset and told that owner that she was taking
<v Speaker 4>advantage of musicians and that's not right and kind of
<v Speaker 4>a naive dance, but you know, honest. So she found
<v Speaker 4>a coffee house. There's a beautiful little place off the
<v Speaker 4>beaten track. There's nobody there, and she went and talked
<v Speaker 4>to the owner and said, hey, I'd like to play here.
<v Speaker 4>I can sing, but I want a percentage of whatever
<v Speaker 4>I bring into the business. And the owner, with really
<v Speaker 4>nothing to lose, said okay, let's do it. So she
<v Speaker 4>started to play at this little coffee house and she
<v Speaker 4>it was like the old school day. She would go
<v Speaker 4>down the beach and find surfers and pass out little flyers.
<v Speaker 3>Name of the coffee house was the Interchange.
<v Speaker 4>The Interchange. But she would pass out these flyers, and
<v Speaker 4>she got these surfer guys who were probably sweet on her,
<v Speaker 4>you know, and she was a surfer too, like she
<v Speaker 4>was surfing, that's right. And she said, come see me play,
<v Speaker 4>and they're like, okay, we'll be there, right, I would
<v Speaker 4>have come. Well, next thing, you know, there's a line
<v Speaker 4>around the block to see her. And when she was playing,
<v Speaker 4>she wanted to be the center of attention. You know,
<v Speaker 4>She's not going to be in the corner while everybody's
<v Speaker 4>talking and eating and socializing.
<v Speaker 3>She wanted this to be like a show. You're here
<v Speaker 3>to see me, that's right.
<v Speaker 4>And so she would tell people, you know, sit down,
<v Speaker 4>be quiet. If you've got to go to the bathroom,
<v Speaker 4>you go between songs, and you don't talk.
<v Speaker 3>While I'm singing Hotly Cow.
<v Speaker 4>And so she's girls living in her van, yes, homeless,
<v Speaker 4>twenty one crazy and makes these pronouncements. Well, people kind
<v Speaker 4>of became like hardcore fans of Jewel through this nice
<v Speaker 4>and pretty soon record executive was starting to take notice.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, there's a guy named John Hogan who was the
<v Speaker 3>lead singer of a band called Rust, and Rust had
<v Speaker 3>a manager whose name was Inga Weinstein, and Inga Weinstein
<v Speaker 3>was also at Paramount. Anyway, John Hogan says, there's a
<v Speaker 3>surfer girl playing at this coffeehouse and you need to
<v Speaker 3>come see her. And when she came, and obviously the
<v Speaker 3>place was full, the place was totally locked in because
<v Speaker 3>she had said this is a show. This I'm not
<v Speaker 3>the side act, right, this is a show, and you're
<v Speaker 3>hear to meeting and established these rules. Well, if you're
<v Speaker 3>a potential manager walking in, you're like, dang, everybody is
<v Speaker 3>locked in at this point. And so she had the
<v Speaker 3>Inga Einstein had the chops at that point to go
<v Speaker 3>not I'm only going to manage you. I'm going to
<v Speaker 3>have Atlantic hey for your demo, because she couldn't afford
<v Speaker 3>to pay for a demo, right, and then with the
<v Speaker 3>demo didn't even give Atlantic the first shot, just said okay,
<v Speaker 3>who wants her right and created a bidding war, And
<v Speaker 3>there was literally a bidding war for her, to the
<v Speaker 3>point that she was like, you know, I got offered
<v Speaker 3>you know, so many whatever dollars, million dollars signing bo
<v Speaker 3>but she said, I had read enough at that point
<v Speaker 3>that I knew that that bonus.
<v Speaker 4>Was something I had to pay back, that was an advancement.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah yeah, And so she was like, I didn't take it.
<v Speaker 3>I wanted to make my own music. And Atlantic was
<v Speaker 3>the one that seemed to me to be the most
<v Speaker 3>sincere about we will let you do what you want
<v Speaker 3>to do. We will let you be you and do
<v Speaker 3>your thing. And so that's why she ended up signing with.
<v Speaker 4>So she was wise enough and savvy enough, street wise
<v Speaker 4>enough to say, nope, I'll take it. On the back end,
<v Speaker 4>she said she had a good lawyer and one of
<v Speaker 4>the things in her contract was for every million albums
<v Speaker 4>she sold, she earned another point.
<v Speaker 3>Well, she sold twelve million albums. Yeah, I was gonna say,
<v Speaker 3>I think it's up to fifteen now, but yes.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, so every million she gets more. But at the
<v Speaker 4>time it's kind of a no lose for the record company.
<v Speaker 4>They're like, well, go ahead and sell twelve billion copies
<v Speaker 4>if you can, yea. But she was cheap and so
<v Speaker 4>she knew they wouldn't give up on her. So you know,
<v Speaker 4>she's out there in a van touring around, playing and
<v Speaker 4>they don't care. They're not going to cut her off because.
<v Speaker 3>She's not like her cheap. They're not putting on arena
<v Speaker 3>concerts like it's Van Halen for her. That's right, She's
<v Speaker 3>doing her own gigs. She had a guitar. She was
<v Speaker 3>pulling herself up by her own bootstraps, is what she
<v Speaker 3>was doing.
<v Speaker 4>So one of the things she credits to her success,
<v Speaker 4>she said she played all the time, yeah, everywhere.
<v Speaker 3>And it was not successful like she played. She said
<v Speaker 3>something like six or seven hundred shows and still wasn't
<v Speaker 3>selling albums. And it wasn't until Bob Dylan was like,
<v Speaker 3>I believe in you come open for me, and then
<v Speaker 3>you've got a bought in audience, right like if you
<v Speaker 3>if you're if you're a guy or a girl who
<v Speaker 3>likes Bob Dylan, and then you hear this beautiful young
<v Speaker 3>girl singing songs that are very well written in the
<v Speaker 3>same folky style, you're like, oh, I love this girl.
<v Speaker 3>I want to get this album. This is great.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's genius. She does something really stupid here in
<v Speaker 4>just a few minutes, we'll talk about okay. She said
<v Speaker 4>she was playing all these shows to kind of get
<v Speaker 4>the album off the ground. And again she's playing cheap places,
<v Speaker 4>ten o'clock in the morning type of stuff. So she
<v Speaker 4>played high schools, right, and she went to a high
<v Speaker 4>school and she was preparing to play for this, you know,
<v Speaker 4>auditorium of high school kids who don't know who she is.
<v Speaker 4>Could care less. They're out of math class or whatever.
<v Speaker 3>Listening to Sound Garden, right, they don't care. So here's
<v Speaker 3>the deal.
<v Speaker 4>She's in the bathroom stall and she hears a bunch
<v Speaker 4>of girls who are putting on the stick at the
<v Speaker 4>mirror whatever and say, oh, man, I love Jewel. Well,
<v Speaker 4>Jewel was a rapper at the time. She's like, scrap,
<v Speaker 4>I am dead meat. She's went out, you know, to
<v Speaker 4>a bunch of people expecting Jewel the rapper. Huh, and
<v Speaker 4>you know, here's you know, yodeler. So she also said
<v Speaker 4>one time she played a high school and she started
<v Speaker 4>to play Pieces of You and when you start singing
<v Speaker 4>about ugly girls and geez yep. Yeah, she said that
<v Speaker 4>the whole they just got up and left, like everybody
<v Speaker 4>just took off.
<v Speaker 3>So next time in the album, get ready for an
<v Speaker 3>emotional breakdown. This is painters caleft him times long ago.
<v Speaker 5>She was kind of cares we painted his portrait of
<v Speaker 5>pass Just Okay.
<v Speaker 3>So I'm in my car earlier this week driving north
<v Speaker 3>on I thirty five, crying like a baby. It's just
<v Speaker 3>so heartbreaking. I mean, you just have this beautiful story.
<v Speaker 3>I mean, it's like the beginning of up right. This
<v Speaker 3>is well before the movie comes out, you know, this
<v Speaker 3>is the beginning of up where you've just got this
<v Speaker 3>this beautiful, happy couple and they've they're in so much
<v Speaker 3>love and their artists and they're painting together, and he's
<v Speaker 3>doing these beautiful things for and all of a sudden
<v Speaker 3>gone yeah. And she's holding him as he goes, saying,
<v Speaker 3>don't believe me.
<v Speaker 4>And I'm just like, what's going on.
<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna have red eyes when I get what are
<v Speaker 3>you doing?
<v Speaker 4>I just listened to Jewel. So here's a quote from
<v Speaker 4>this song from her. Jewel's grandfather, Yule Kilcher, told her
<v Speaker 4>when she was a young kid, painters only paint to
<v Speaker 4>give away, and she said that really stuck with her,
<v Speaker 4>the beauty of giving yourself.
<v Speaker 3>A couple of lines from the song Okay, ready, they
<v Speaker 3>thought blueprints were too sad, so they made them yellow.
<v Speaker 3>That's good. But as he's dying love, I leave, but
<v Speaker 3>only a little. This world holds me still. My body
<v Speaker 3>may die now, but these paintings are real.
<v Speaker 2>There you go.
<v Speaker 3>The art that we create outlasts us. Yeah, and that's
<v Speaker 3>what this song is about it And I just, uh,
<v Speaker 3>we too sad they painted them sounds. This is the
<v Speaker 3>This is the undiscovered gem on this album. As far
<v Speaker 3>as I am concerned, I think this is I didn't
<v Speaker 3>mention it. Foolish Games is my favorite song on the album,
<v Speaker 3>spiked the football best song on the album. Heartbreaking as well,
<v Speaker 3>but in a different kind of way. But this one
<v Speaker 3>is the This is the underrated song of the whole
<v Speaker 3>album for sure. Next song on the album, and just
<v Speaker 3>when you need it, this is morning song.
<v Speaker 5>Let the phone me, Let's go back to sleep. The
<v Speaker 5>world's been outside our there the only one that I
<v Speaker 5>want to see. Tell you boss, you're sick, get back in,
<v Speaker 5>getting cold, get over here and more my hands A
<v Speaker 5>boy's you They love.
<v Speaker 3>It's a little country sounding Jim That again brings you
<v Speaker 3>to a moment that I hope we've all had where
<v Speaker 3>it's just like, why do we have to go do
<v Speaker 3>adulting things? Why can't we just snuggle and stay here
<v Speaker 3>in bed together?
<v Speaker 4>Man, Get back in bed, boy, I mean you you
<v Speaker 4>hear Jewels say that.
<v Speaker 3>Man, I'm taking my shoes back off. That's back in bed.
<v Speaker 3>That's right. And then I did the line, I mean,
<v Speaker 3>just still the genius and you can be Henry Miller
<v Speaker 3>and I'll be a nice snin. Except this time it'll
<v Speaker 3>be even better. We'll stay together in the end. Come on, darling,
<v Speaker 3>let's go back to bed. So I bought a Henry
<v Speaker 3>Miller book because of this song. Really yeah, and I've
<v Speaker 3>read it multiple times. One of my favorite books now.
<v Speaker 3>But I tried to read a Nice nin but man,
<v Speaker 3>she's got some weird stuff. I couldn't. I couldn't get
<v Speaker 3>into a nice nin but Henry Miller I could. Definitely. Yeah,
<v Speaker 3>it's good stuff. That's good.
<v Speaker 4>I did read that she wrote this in a sleeping
<v Speaker 4>bag at three o'clock in the morning, Okay, at a
<v Speaker 4>friend's house after a long night at the coffee shop.
<v Speaker 3>Okay.
<v Speaker 4>So number one, we've got Tombodett to thank for this album.
<v Speaker 4>All right, right, you mentioned Bob Dylan. I want to
<v Speaker 4>talk more about him and here in a second. Okay,
<v Speaker 4>but there's another person that is famous that really deserves
<v Speaker 4>some credit for her success. Okay, it was kind of
<v Speaker 4>a secret love affair, but she dated for a while
<v Speaker 4>Sean Penn.
<v Speaker 3>Shawn Penn, Yeah, before Robin Wright, after Madonna, kind.
<v Speaker 4>Of in between Robin Wright's okay, you know.
<v Speaker 3>Okay, so but yeah, so your pick fiance is too late,
<v Speaker 3>right exactly?
<v Speaker 4>She was, you know, the record producers got her a
<v Speaker 4>guest shot on Conan O'Brien. Okay, And the Cone and
<v Speaker 4>O'Brien show was kind of known for showing early artists
<v Speaker 4>before they were famous.
<v Speaker 3>First time you saw Radiohead was on O'Brien.
<v Speaker 4>So she was on Conan O'Brien and she was back
<v Speaker 4>in Alaska a couple of days later at her dad's
<v Speaker 4>house and her dad said, hey, I don't know if
<v Speaker 4>you know this or not, but you've got a prank
<v Speaker 4>call here not too long ago. She's like, what's that meaning?
<v Speaker 4>He said, well, some guy called here and was pretending
<v Speaker 4>to be Sean Pan, but I hung up on him,
<v Speaker 4>and so luckily Sean Penn, the Sean Pan actually persisted
<v Speaker 4>and kept calling asked to speak with her, and she's like,
<v Speaker 4>you know, hello, He's like, hi, this is Sean Pan.
<v Speaker 4>I saw you on Conan O'Brien. I've got a movie
<v Speaker 4>coming up called The Crossing Guard. I like your style,
<v Speaker 4>and I want you to write a song for my movie.
<v Speaker 3>And so this is his pickup line. This is his
<v Speaker 3>pickup exact storyline. Okay, so this guy is so smooth.
<v Speaker 4>Keep in mind, she is baroke, she didn't have any money. Yeah,
<v Speaker 4>she's nobody.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, the album isn't successful yet, right, right.
<v Speaker 4>But he starts pursuing her, like courting her. And you
<v Speaker 4>know when she's she's six months older than me. Maybe
<v Speaker 4>she's not that old, No, she's a year older.
<v Speaker 3>She's yeah, she's about a year a year younger than me. Yeah, so,
<v Speaker 3>but she's fifty one now, right, and what is Sean
<v Speaker 3>Penn like in his late sixties?
<v Speaker 4>I think Sean Penn is probably mid sixties, but still,
<v Speaker 4>like that's a decade or more older, decade or more
<v Speaker 4>for sure.
<v Speaker 3>When she was twenty one, yes, okay, yeap, just as
<v Speaker 3>long we've got all those math things out there.
<v Speaker 4>She's twenty one, yeah, he's thirty five whatever, all right,
<v Speaker 4>you'd already been with the donna, he'd been through the
<v Speaker 4>crazy yeah, okay, yeah, So anyway, so he's he starts
<v Speaker 4>courting her and he starts like following her. He's like
<v Speaker 4>her guitar tech and stuff like that. As he's courting her.
<v Speaker 3>He directed one of her videos, right.
<v Speaker 4>He did, which we'll talk about that here in a second, Okay, okay.
<v Speaker 2>But so.
<v Speaker 4>He's like introducing her to all his famous friends, right
<v Speaker 4>and making her feel like a princess. And he's doing
<v Speaker 4>a great job of coording her.
<v Speaker 3>Okay.
<v Speaker 4>So one time, this just blows my mind. He goes
<v Speaker 4>to lunch his friend Warren Batty, who you know's they
<v Speaker 4>shared Madonna, you know, late eighties, early nineties. Ok yeah,
<v Speaker 4>I mean they passed her around a little bit, yep.
<v Speaker 4>But he says, will you play some of your songs
<v Speaker 4>for Warren Bady? And so she says okay, and she
<v Speaker 4>plays him a few songs and Warren Baty is like,
<v Speaker 4>where did you find this girl? I can't blame him, right,
<v Speaker 4>And so her head is spinning where all these famous
<v Speaker 4>people are noticing her.
<v Speaker 3>Of course he was in his late sixties back then,
<v Speaker 3>that's right.
<v Speaker 4>Right, So he takes her to lunch one time and
<v Speaker 4>there's Jack Nicholson and four other ladies including you know,
<v Speaker 4>jewel and like champagne, like drops her off like I've
<v Speaker 4>got some stuff I gotta do. Hang out with Jack
<v Speaker 4>and these girls, right, And she said she was polite
<v Speaker 4>and he was, you know, a movie star, and he
<v Speaker 4>was Jack and he said, at the end of lunch,
<v Speaker 4>he goes, well, ladies, who wants to go with Lingerie's shopping?
<v Speaker 3>I wish I was Jack Nicholson.
<v Speaker 4>I know, right, she said, she politely passed, but the
<v Speaker 4>other four were like, let's go, let's go. Must be nice.
<v Speaker 3>It's good to be the king. That's right, all right.
<v Speaker 4>Next song on the album, song called Adrian.
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, came.
<v Speaker 3>Again last. So this song, it's great, it's a great song.
<v Speaker 3>It does have the Nightmare on Elm Street, Freddy thing
<v Speaker 3>going on one two, very little like that. Yes, but
<v Speaker 3>she again, we've this amazing story where she's just given
<v Speaker 3>you little drops of the story as it's going through
<v Speaker 3>about a kid who's in a canoe accident and becomes
<v Speaker 3>comatos basically, and little Mary Epperson liked him, and so
<v Speaker 3>she vowed to take care of him. And it's been
<v Speaker 3>every day with him, and he never changed, and shears
<v Speaker 3>went by and she became a very lovely woman and
<v Speaker 3>she still visits him on Sundays.
<v Speaker 4>It's a great story. It's totally false.
<v Speaker 3>It's not real. Yeah, it's just a made up story.
<v Speaker 4>There's a lot of urban legends about this song, about
<v Speaker 4>who is this person? Is this a real story? People
<v Speaker 4>are out there, They got their own little fan fiction
<v Speaker 4>ideas about this. She's like, I just made the story up.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.
<v Speaker 4>By the way, I just want to drop this story
<v Speaker 4>right here, okay. As her excess is multiplying from pieces
<v Speaker 4>of you, she starts to get noticed by Hollywood.
<v Speaker 3>So she gets a call from ang Lee Gretching Tiger
<v Speaker 3>hitting Dragon, Broke Back Mountain. Didn't see that one, the Hulk, Yeah,
<v Speaker 3>Life of Pie.
<v Speaker 4>There you go, ye famous Hollywood director. He says, I
<v Speaker 4>want you to come in to audition for a part
<v Speaker 4>I've got that I'm thinking of you for what's the
<v Speaker 4>name of this movie? Ride with the Devil's the name
<v Speaker 4>of it?
<v Speaker 3>Okay, susperiod piece. It's like Colonial Days, right, civil war?
<v Speaker 4>Civil War? You know you got skeet Ulric in it.
<v Speaker 4>You've got Jim Cavizl's in it. McGuire, Toby McGuire's in it.
<v Speaker 4>Civil war piece. Anyway, So she comes in and he says,
<v Speaker 4>I want you to walk for me. So she's like,
<v Speaker 4>h I wonder what he's looking for. Okay, So she
<v Speaker 4>tries to walk sexy. Yeah, he's like, no, much heavier, walk, determined,
<v Speaker 4>walk like you're going somewhere.
<v Speaker 3>She said.
<v Speaker 4>Then he handed her a watch and said, act like
<v Speaker 4>this is something you've never seen. You don't understand it,
<v Speaker 4>you don't know what it is. She's like, weird, okay,
<v Speaker 4>you know, and does all this you know acting. He's like, great,
<v Speaker 4>you're hired. She's like, I don't know what I'm doing.
<v Speaker 4>I've never She's like, I was in a theater class
<v Speaker 4>in high school. She's one of the leads in this movie, right,
<v Speaker 4>and so she's she's fretting about it. She's excited, and finally,
<v Speaker 4>after like two days before shooting, she's finally like, why
<v Speaker 4>did you charge me? He goes, you have period teeth?
<v Speaker 3>So thank you.
<v Speaker 4>I mean, but here's the the honest truth is that
<v Speaker 4>every other actress of her era.
<v Speaker 3>It's beautiful, have beautiful teeth. So she's got this first cousin,
<v Speaker 3>once removed, named Corianka Kilcher, who played Pocahontas in the
<v Speaker 3>New World or something like that. Yes, that's it. The
<v Speaker 3>New World yes, has Colin Farrell and she's bailing it right,
<v Speaker 3>So she plays Pocahontas. She has perfect teeth. It's not right,
<v Speaker 3>like her teeth are beautiful. Oh man, Okay, but and
<v Speaker 3>she's she was in Yellowstone. It's kind of weird that
<v Speaker 3>that's Jules Cousin. Feels nothing alike. Wow, she's like a
<v Speaker 3>native like her ancestry is Native. For they look nothing alike,
<v Speaker 3>nothing like. Both very beautiful, but look nothing alive. That's right. Yeah,
<v Speaker 3>but she did not have period teeth. They still put
<v Speaker 3>her in that movie. That's crazy. Yeah.
<v Speaker 4>Next song on the album is a song called I'm Sensitive.
<v Speaker 3>It doesn't take a talent to be mean.
<v Speaker 5>Words can crush things that a un scenes, so please
<v Speaker 5>be careful with me.
<v Speaker 3>Sensit so compared to Jagged Little Pill, this is her
<v Speaker 3>right through You song. Okay, that's a little more hurt
<v Speaker 3>like Alanis's Angry Jewel is like, why are you going
<v Speaker 3>to be so mean? I'm a nice person and I
<v Speaker 3>would like to stay a nice person. Could you please
<v Speaker 3>not be a dick?
<v Speaker 4>This song was written at age seventeen in nineteen ninety one.
<v Speaker 4>I believe Okay, now I've got a great story for
<v Speaker 4>you on this one. Okay, So the final vocal this
<v Speaker 4>song was recorded at the Inner Change coffee house. That's
<v Speaker 4>her coffee house and the women's bathroom. Oh okay, while
<v Speaker 4>she was sitting on the sink barefoot.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.
<v Speaker 4>Now, then that wasn't a great story. Here's my great story. Okay, Okay,
<v Speaker 4>my great story is I believe she was at the
<v Speaker 4>nineteen ninety seven MTV Music Awards. Okay, she's walking around.
<v Speaker 4>There's all these famous people. Of course, there's people she
<v Speaker 4>was not exposed to pop culture, so a lot of them.
<v Speaker 4>She's like, okay, that person's famous.
<v Speaker 3>Who is that?
<v Speaker 4>I don't really know. Well, somebody kind of sneaks up
<v Speaker 4>behind her and taps her on the shoulder. She turns around.
<v Speaker 4>It's Marilyn Manson. She turns around. She's like, here's this
<v Speaker 4>guy with white contact lenses, looking scary, all goffed out
<v Speaker 4>and he leans down. He said, I just want you
<v Speaker 4>to know I really love the song. I'm sensitive because
<v Speaker 4>I think it's a beautiful song.
<v Speaker 3>Great job.
<v Speaker 4>Wow, Marilyn Manson's favorite song.
<v Speaker 3>Wow. I know, okay, that's great. How about that It
<v Speaker 3>doesn't take a talent to be mean? Your words can
<v Speaker 3>crush things that are unseen. Don't beat dick.
<v Speaker 4>Good advice before we get to this next song. When
<v Speaker 4>Bob Dylan hired her to open for him on his tour.
<v Speaker 4>So when she showed up to this tour, his manager,
<v Speaker 4>whoever it is, his handlers, whatever they say to her,
<v Speaker 4>Bob will not meet you. He will not talk to you.
<v Speaker 4>He doesn't know who you are. He doesn't care. And
<v Speaker 4>she's like, oh, well, okay, thank you. Anyway, I'm glad
<v Speaker 4>to be here. I'll keep to myself whatever you I
<v Speaker 4>won't be a problem, she said. Day three, he invited
<v Speaker 4>her to his dressing room and was like, I watch
<v Speaker 4>you every night. I think you're great. I think your
<v Speaker 4>songs are great. I think your talent is great. So
<v Speaker 4>it's like somebody's trying to throw a blocker for him.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, okay, So who was it that we talked about
<v Speaker 3>recently that like, spent the day with Bob. It went
<v Speaker 3>out on the boat, they drank beers, they had all
<v Speaker 3>kinds of fun, and the next time he saw he's
<v Speaker 3>thinking he's going to see his best friend Bob, and
<v Speaker 3>Bob was like, h yeah, Christopher Cross, Yeah, okay. It's
<v Speaker 3>like the antithesis of that story he doesn't know you
<v Speaker 3>love you, You're so good and then yeah, wow, all right.
<v Speaker 4>One of the biggest hitters on the album Let's Go
<v Speaker 4>to It. The song is called you Were Meant for Me.
<v Speaker 3>I hear the success a few sparse.
<v Speaker 5>I got my eggs and my pancakes too, You've got
<v Speaker 5>my able.
<v Speaker 3>Soon everything with you? Okay. So there are two different
<v Speaker 3>versions of this song.
<v Speaker 4>I think there's three different versions.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, there's multiple versions.
<v Speaker 4>So you've got the album version, then you've got the
<v Speaker 4>radio version, the condensed version of the album version, and
<v Speaker 4>then you've got this kind of popped up one o.
<v Speaker 4>They kind of rocked it up a little.
<v Speaker 3>Bit, das so in after she Love Me and answer.
<v Speaker 4>In the radio version of you Were Meant for Me,
<v Speaker 4>she met a friend at a like a spiritual like
<v Speaker 4>a meditation retreat that.
<v Speaker 3>Her mom was involved in.
<v Speaker 4>Turns out it it was kind of a pretty heavy cult.
<v Speaker 4>But uh, anyway, decided that he was going to play
<v Speaker 4>on this updated version of the song you Were Meant
<v Speaker 4>for Me.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.
<v Speaker 4>He also happened to play on the song You Ought
<v Speaker 4>to Know Flee Flee Flea plays bass on the radio
<v Speaker 4>edit for this song. Also back Last School, so.
<v Speaker 3>Arguably the two biggest songs on both these albums, and
<v Speaker 3>fleas involved with Wow Wow, Okay, I gotta I gotta
<v Speaker 3>throw a lyric out here again, Like this whole song
<v Speaker 3>is gold on the lyrics, It's beautiful. But my favorite
<v Speaker 3>is I called my mama. She was out for a
<v Speaker 3>walk console the cup of coffee, but it didn't want
<v Speaker 3>to talk.
<v Speaker 4>I love that, So we might as well dive in
<v Speaker 4>just a little bit right here. Yeah, she talks about
<v Speaker 4>her mom a lot in her lyrics, and obviously as
<v Speaker 4>a young child her mom split. For many years now,
<v Speaker 4>she would stay in contact, they would call and they
<v Speaker 4>would visit, you know, but there was that gaping hole
<v Speaker 4>in her heart about why doesn't my mom love me
<v Speaker 4>enough to live with me?
<v Speaker 5>Right?
<v Speaker 4>So when she moved down to San Diego, they kind
<v Speaker 4>of rekindled some stuff. Plus you know, success, and here
<v Speaker 4>it comes mom.
<v Speaker 3>Okay.
<v Speaker 4>So her manager was Inga Varstein Mainstein, Finstein Einstein. So
<v Speaker 4>Inga was her manager. She got fifteen percent of her cut. Well,
<v Speaker 4>Jule's mom wanted to also manage, like co manage, and
<v Speaker 4>so Jewel's mom said, well, let's do this. She gets
<v Speaker 4>fifteen and I get fifteen, and Jewel's like, ah, that's
<v Speaker 4>kind of expensive. I don't really know about that. So
<v Speaker 4>she said, well, how about we do this. She gets
<v Speaker 4>ten and you get ten and you eat five. You
<v Speaker 4>eat five, and I'll eat five. So she's got two managers. Well,
<v Speaker 4>when it's your mother who has a lot of power
<v Speaker 4>to manipulate you, you can see this coming. But she
<v Speaker 4>eventually forces Inga out okay, and assumes all financial control
<v Speaker 4>of Jewel's money from a girl.
<v Speaker 3>Who was just a mistake that we were talking about,
<v Speaker 3>the mistake.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, she was homeless living in her van. All she
<v Speaker 4>needed was enough food for I mean, Jewel would shoplift
<v Speaker 4>as a young person to eat and to clothe herself.
<v Speaker 4>So I've got enough food on the table, I've got clothes,
<v Speaker 4>I've got I'm successful.
<v Speaker 3>I'm good, mom.
<v Speaker 4>You handle the finances.
<v Speaker 3>Well.
<v Speaker 4>After a few years, like three or four or five years,
<v Speaker 4>Inga sues her. The lawyer actually brings Inga and Jewel
<v Speaker 4>in the room together and says, look, the lawyers can
<v Speaker 4>get all this money, or we can work this thing out.
<v Speaker 4>So Jewel and Inga, as former friends, work it out.
<v Speaker 4>So she agrees to pay her X amount of dollars
<v Speaker 4>for back payment. Well, Jewel's mom comes in the room
<v Speaker 4>and says she doesn't have it, and She's like, what
<v Speaker 4>are you talking about. I'm selling millions of albums. I
<v Speaker 4>have this wonderful contract where I get an additional point
<v Speaker 4>for every million albums I sell.
<v Speaker 3>You don't have it.
<v Speaker 4>So she found out she was dead broke after settling
<v Speaker 4>with a suit with a former friend that her mom
<v Speaker 4>had helped force out, no money and millions of dollars
<v Speaker 4>in debt, and even still Jewel kept her on for
<v Speaker 4>a time. No apologies, no I'm sorry.
<v Speaker 3>We know what happened to the money. Whoosh gone, whoosh.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, here's the interesting thing. So her mom had bought
<v Speaker 4>these other real estate properties, and of course Jewel's out
<v Speaker 4>there busting her button. Her mom's pocketing all this money.
<v Speaker 4>But that's true, butts yeah. So one of the things
<v Speaker 4>that Jewel asked her mom to do, this is post mistake,
<v Speaker 4>this is post problem, says you have to sell all
<v Speaker 4>these houses. I need this money. I'm broke, yeah, and
<v Speaker 4>you took it all.
<v Speaker 5>Ah.
<v Speaker 4>So her mom looked her, stood up, screamed fine, and
<v Speaker 4>I'll sell these effing houses. And Jewel said her mom
<v Speaker 4>never yelled at her, but on that day, she was like,
<v Speaker 4>I knew once she raised her voice to me, I
<v Speaker 4>would never see that money and I would never see
<v Speaker 4>my mom again. And that's exactly what happened. Oh my gosh,
<v Speaker 4>split never heard from her again.
<v Speaker 3>Gone.
<v Speaker 4>She's like, I really wanted the love of a mother
<v Speaker 4>and I would have settled for a hug and I
<v Speaker 4>got neither.
<v Speaker 3>So how's her relationship with her dad?
<v Speaker 4>Her dad has improved?
<v Speaker 3>Well, what's our next song?
<v Speaker 4>Hang on before we get to that song. Okay, I've
<v Speaker 4>got something to light in the mood.
<v Speaker 3>Okay.
<v Speaker 4>In this song, she mentions a breakfast with a smiley face.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, break the yolks make a smiley face.
<v Speaker 4>You remember the last time we saw a breakfast with
<v Speaker 4>a smiley face?
<v Speaker 3>He was big Adventure. Oh that's canst t zereal. Oh
<v Speaker 3>my gosh, that's great. All right.
<v Speaker 4>Next song on the album is a song called Don't.
<v Speaker 3>Dude Hook to Close dum.
<v Speaker 1>So Soft.
<v Speaker 3>Here's a heartbreaking song about having your heart broken.
<v Speaker 4>Oh my gosh, Yes, this song's beautiful. I could definitely
<v Speaker 4>see this at a little coffee shop at the bottom
<v Speaker 4>of the ski resort.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but still it's an emotion that we've all felt.
<v Speaker 3>It captures that emotion. Oh, I mean, these are the
<v Speaker 3>first lyrics, but it's the whole. It's the whole song.
<v Speaker 3>Don't walk too close, don't breathe so soft, don't talk
<v Speaker 3>so sweet, don't sing, don't lay oh so near? Please
<v Speaker 3>don't let me fall in love with you again?
<v Speaker 4>Ouch?
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, like just seeing you. We're not together anymore, and
<v Speaker 3>I just see you and I just hear you, and
<v Speaker 3>I just I'm like, I can't let myself fall into
<v Speaker 3>this all over again.
<v Speaker 4>Bring me down?
<v Speaker 3>Man. Yeah, well that's what the I mean. She's she's
<v Speaker 3>really like, she's taking you all over the emotional gambit
<v Speaker 3>right here. Man, that's true. That's why I love this album.
<v Speaker 3>It's a good one. How is her relationship with her
<v Speaker 3>mom's not so good? How about her dad? This song
<v Speaker 3>is called daddy?
<v Speaker 5>What's that sing?
<v Speaker 2>You know?
<v Speaker 3>Sometimes, as she passed, now, I drink lots of black
<v Speaker 3>coffee and I smoke black chilly. Yes, I left the
<v Speaker 3>refrigerator a half open. So after her mom left her dad,
<v Speaker 3>it became an alcoholic and was abusive.
<v Speaker 4>She talked in particular about an instance where she and
<v Speaker 4>her brother were having an argument like on a Saturday morning,
<v Speaker 4>like over the remote control.
<v Speaker 3>Which cartoon are we going to write?
<v Speaker 4>But they knew that if they woke Dad that there'd
<v Speaker 4>be hell to pay, right, and so it was one
<v Speaker 4>of those silent fistfights you know, you know that type
<v Speaker 4>of stuff. Well, something happened and they bumped into something
<v Speaker 4>and it caused a clatter, and Dad called him up
<v Speaker 4>and they both got smacked around. So it was physical,
<v Speaker 4>but he has since apologies were made and bridges built
<v Speaker 4>in that deck.
<v Speaker 3>I think he got over the alcohol problem and and
<v Speaker 3>hosting a show on the Discovery Channel.
<v Speaker 4>I know that's really cool.
<v Speaker 3>So line from the song you know sometimes I want
<v Speaker 3>to bash in your teeth, Daddy. I'm gonna use your
<v Speaker 3>tongue as a stamp. I'm gonna rip your heart out
<v Speaker 3>the way you did mine, Daddy, Go ahead and psychoanalyze that.
<v Speaker 4>I do have one funny story about her dad. Yeah,
<v Speaker 4>aad so being a single dad in Homesteady, Alaska. They
<v Speaker 4>made a decision, And tell me this isn't the ultimate
<v Speaker 4>guy decision.
<v Speaker 3>I know what we're gonna do with people.
<v Speaker 4>We're gonna simplify our alive by buying one type of
<v Speaker 4>soap for everything, so she said, So he made the decision,
<v Speaker 4>we're no longer going to buy shampoo, laundry detergent and
<v Speaker 4>body soap and dish soap and dish soap. So they
<v Speaker 4>just bought Irish spring. That's what she washed her.
<v Speaker 3>Hair with, Irish Irish spring.
<v Speaker 4>He they like made like shards, like scraped off shards
<v Speaker 4>of it to wash their clothes with.
<v Speaker 3>What they did in the commercial is woodlin a bar soap,
<v Speaker 3>iron spring and next whistle.
<v Speaker 4>That's that's pretty strong potent smelling too, all right.
<v Speaker 3>Her dad's name, by the way, we haven't mentioned is Attila, right,
<v Speaker 3>it's it's a Tila. Now he goes by atsts. Yeah,
<v Speaker 3>she calls him os. Yeah. But they have made amends.
<v Speaker 3>She's been on his show with her son going through
<v Speaker 3>you know, kind of a ceremonial. You're turning seven, you're
<v Speaker 3>now you're a man, but you're moving from childhood to
<v Speaker 3>towards man.
<v Speaker 4>That's right, all right. Next song on the album song
<v Speaker 4>called Angels standing by. This one sounds like a church hymn.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it sounds like angels. It sounds like a choir
<v Speaker 3>of angels. It's just too it's two voices but beautiful,
<v Speaker 3>and that she's playing the harmonics on the guitar, which
<v Speaker 3>is what gives it that kind of bright, shiny sound.
<v Speaker 3>And it's it's interesting because it's not available on the
<v Speaker 3>whole guitar. It's just unique spots. And so she's made
<v Speaker 3>a song with those notes. It's impressive. It's impressive, beautiful. Yeah,
<v Speaker 3>like you said, it's like a choir.
<v Speaker 5>Yeah.
<v Speaker 4>You know what they call Jewel fans like devotees.
<v Speaker 3>Uh, everyday angel every day Angels. Yeah, I think somebody started.
<v Speaker 3>I think they have like a it's called a fan
<v Speaker 3>club or a coalition of some kind called Everyday Angels, Yeah,
<v Speaker 3>which she's not actually a member of, but she's done
<v Speaker 3>concerts for him. Did something called Jewelfest Forum or jeel Fest. Yeah.
<v Speaker 3>You know.
<v Speaker 4>She married Ty Murray, who was like the Michael Jordan
<v Speaker 4>of bull Riding Cowboy. I thought this was really interesting.
<v Speaker 4>When she met him. She was in Denver passing through
<v Speaker 4>had a concert.
<v Speaker 3>It was like, I like rodeos, I'll go to the rodeo.
<v Speaker 4>She got in touch with him. They were going to
<v Speaker 4>share some sort of charity event or something like that,
<v Speaker 4>and when she met him, she knew her dad would
<v Speaker 4>be mega impressed that she knew the Michael Jordan of
<v Speaker 4>bull riding right, and then ultimately they started to date.
<v Speaker 4>They fell in love, got married, had a kid, and
<v Speaker 4>we're married from twenty eight to twenty fourteen.
<v Speaker 3>I think so you're saying she's single, she's single, Juli.
<v Speaker 3>If you're out there, slide into my i DS came up.
<v Speaker 4>Oh, yes, that would be fun. She have to do
<v Speaker 4>an intro for us.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we'll see if all right. Best song on the
<v Speaker 3>album this, I mean, we think we've heard some vocal
<v Speaker 3>range before. Get a load of me.
<v Speaker 5>Now.
<v Speaker 3>Last song on the album, this one's called.
<v Speaker 5>And Some Can't Tell the de from City More.
<v Speaker 3>I think I just found my favorite part. Sang yeah.
<v Speaker 3>So we just to be clear, I don't make that clear.
<v Speaker 3>Jump to the end, jump to where she's singing I'm
<v Speaker 3>in and hallelujah, and I might have failed to mention this.
<v Speaker 3>She went to interlock In Academy. She studied op opera
<v Speaker 3>and this is where you hear it, and it's like
<v Speaker 3>you can hear, you can hear. At the beginning of
<v Speaker 3>the song, when she's singing the regular lyrics, she comes
<v Speaker 3>down into her lower register by the end, she is
<v Speaker 3>singing that soprano. Oh my goodness, it sounds like Ave Maria.
<v Speaker 3>I mean, it's just it'll make the hair on your
<v Speaker 3>arms stand up. It's so beautiful. And this is interesting
<v Speaker 3>to me because I mentioned, you know, she her aunt
<v Speaker 3>kind of adopted her when her mom left, but taught
<v Speaker 3>her things. And last video and I sent you a
<v Speaker 3>video that I don't think is that old. Her aunt's
<v Speaker 3>still live eighty years old and still turning along, working
<v Speaker 3>like a horse. And so I thought, well, you know,
<v Speaker 3>her aunt had an album in seventy seven, and she
<v Speaker 3>probably learned things from her aunt. She didn't start playing
<v Speaker 3>guitar until she was at inter Locking. She was sixteen
<v Speaker 3>before she started playing guitar. She's written these incredible songs.
<v Speaker 3>I mean, some of them are very simple chord progressions,
<v Speaker 3>but some of them are not. And if you listen,
<v Speaker 3>you don't hear a lot of drums. But the benefit
<v Speaker 3>of that is she's able to do things that classical
<v Speaker 3>music does, which is speed up and slow down as
<v Speaker 3>the emotion takes her to that spot. And she said
<v Speaker 3>this was also the wonderful thing about working with the
<v Speaker 3>Stray Gators is that they could do that with her,
<v Speaker 3>they were such talented musicians that they could pace themselves
<v Speaker 3>at her pace, right, But the beauty of the singing
<v Speaker 3>and this song is just amazing.
<v Speaker 4>So just to kind of put a bow on this, Yeah,
<v Speaker 4>she puts out this incredible folk album. Obviously she's capable
<v Speaker 4>of doing opera, she does pop. She has a song
<v Speaker 4>called Intuition that is a top ten hit in two
<v Speaker 4>thousand and three, I think where it's dance pop.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it was a little weird for me to see
<v Speaker 3>her doing that. I wasn't upset at the time because
<v Speaker 3>she's looking good. She's getting sprayed with a fire hose.
<v Speaker 3>You know, she's looking good. But it's not what it's
<v Speaker 3>not the music that I wanted to get from Jewel.
<v Speaker 3>I watched the video, but I didn't. I did not
<v Speaker 3>buy that album.
<v Speaker 4>Well, after that, she shifts into country.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, which I mean we talked about some of these
<v Speaker 3>songs have got the very country appear they do.
<v Speaker 4>And then she puts out a very successful, super successful
<v Speaker 4>like Lullaby, like a children's album.
<v Speaker 3>Has done a Christmas album. Yeah, I mean she's and
<v Speaker 3>has acted since that Angle thing, just you know, she
<v Speaker 3>broke through with her teeth, but she she's played June
<v Speaker 3>Carter Cash and she's played like a murder mystery in
<v Speaker 3>some Hallmark yhows. I mean she's doing a lot of
<v Speaker 3>She's she's a very intelligent, very talented, very beautiful. I
<v Speaker 3>mean she's got to go gifted, she's got it going all.
<v Speaker 4>And I just saw a video she posted a couple
<v Speaker 4>of days ago on Instagram where I think she's in
<v Speaker 4>Tell your Ride, she's hiking. She's like here I am,
<v Speaker 4>I'm on the track. You know she's dirty, dusty.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, she doesn't have to be beautiful in the I
<v Speaker 3>mean she's posting videos with no makeup and her hair
<v Speaker 3>is all scraggly and a beanie ball cap and yeah,
<v Speaker 3>she doesn't care. I love it.
<v Speaker 4>I know, right, super cool.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, all right, that's it. So that's number two of
<v Speaker 3>our Menagetois of the nineties Ladies. Next week we are
<v Speaker 3>coming back with No Doubt Tragic Kingdom Hold Onto Your Butts.
<v Speaker 4>Fifteen tracks on that album, I think all good.
<v Speaker 3>Like so far, two albums. Not a single skipper, I know,
<v Speaker 3>not a single skipper.
<v Speaker 4>Great songs in the nineties. Yeah, come back next week,
<v Speaker 4>see you guys. Then, thanks guys,