Trump Directs Federal Job Cuts; Musk Defends Downsizing
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1) Trump Directs Federal Job Cuts as Musk Defends DownsizingPresident Donald Trump directed agencies to work with Elon Musk’s government cost-cutting effort to slash their workforces, according to a White House official, his latest move to gut the federal bureaucracy.Trump’s action orders agency heads to coordinate with Musk’s Department of Government Efficiency to “significantly reduce the size of the government” and “limit hiring to essential positions,” according to a White House fact sheet seen earlier Tuesday by Bloomberg News.
2) Trump Hails Russian Release of American as He Preps Peace PlanPresident Donald Trump hailed the release of an American who had been detained in Russia, saying he hoped the move would allow the two nations to work toward ending the war in Ukraine.“I think there’s goodwill, in terms of the war,” Trump said as he greeted Marc Fogel, a school teacher held in Russia since 2021. “I think this could be the very important element, you could be a big part of it, actually, because it could be a big, important part of getting the war over with Ukraine.”
3) US Core Inflation Seen Rising at Firm Pace in JanuaryInflation likely remained stubborn last month based on economists’ estimates, backing the Federal Reserve’s patient approach to lowering borrowing costs.The so-called core consumer price index that excludes food and energy is seen rising 0.3% in January from December in the Bureau of Labor Statistics report due Wednesday. From a year earlier, core CPI likely increased 3.1%, according to the median forecast in a Bloomberg survey.
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Bloomberg Audio Studios, Podcasts, Radio News. 0:00:10.080 --> 0:00:10.640 Good morning. 0:00:10.640 --> 0:00:13.480 I'm Nathan Hager and I'm Karen Moscow. Here are the 0:00:13.520 --> 0:00:15.000 stories we're following today. 0:00:15.480 --> 0:00:18.680 Karen, we begin in Washington, where President Trump has directed 0:00:18.720 --> 0:00:22.360 federal agencies to comply with job cuts led by Elon 0:00:22.480 --> 0:00:25.680 Musk and his so called Department of Government Efficiency. A 0:00:25.720 --> 0:00:28.880 White House fact sheet seen by Bloomberg shows agencies will 0:00:28.920 --> 0:00:31.280 be permitted to hire no more than one employee for 0:00:31.320 --> 0:00:34.120 every four that leave, and they'll have to limit hiring 0:00:34.159 --> 0:00:38.040 to essential positions. As heard here on Bloomberg Radio, the 0:00:38.080 --> 0:00:40.760 President spoke to reporters in the Oval Office. 0:00:41.400 --> 0:00:44.520 I hope that the court system is going to allow 0:00:44.640 --> 0:00:46.159 us to do what we have to do we got 0:00:46.200 --> 0:00:50.960 elected to, among other things, all of this fraud abuse, 0:00:51.120 --> 0:00:54.400 all of this this horrible stuff going on, and we've 0:00:54.440 --> 0:00:57.520 already found billions of does not like a little bit, 0:00:57.800 --> 0:01:00.080 billions many billions of dough. 0:01:00.640 --> 0:01:03.320 And standing alongside President Trump in the Oval Office was 0:01:03.360 --> 0:01:07.319 the world's richest man. Elon Musk defended his cost cutting approach, 0:01:07.360 --> 0:01:10.880 which did involve obtaining access to sensitive computer systems and 0:01:10.920 --> 0:01:11.839 employee data. 0:01:12.520 --> 0:01:15.480 Your tax dollars need to be spent wisely on the 0:01:15.480 --> 0:01:18.560 things that matter to the people. I mean these things 0:01:18.600 --> 0:01:22.560 like it's just common sense. It's not draconian or radical. 0:01:22.640 --> 0:01:25.080 I think it's it's really just saying, best look at 0:01:25.080 --> 0:01:28.360 each of these expenditors and say, is this actually in 0:01:28.360 --> 0:01:30.039 the best interest to the people, and if it is, 0:01:30.080 --> 0:01:32.319 it's proved not, we should think about it. 0:01:32.720 --> 0:01:36.440 Elon Musk also increased attacks on federal officials and judges, 0:01:36.480 --> 0:01:39.800 who he says are stalling progress and cost cutting, but 0:01:39.959 --> 0:01:42.399 he also says he expects resistance. 0:01:42.959 --> 0:01:45.959 I fully expect to be scrutinized and get a daily 0:01:45.959 --> 0:01:47.040 proctology exam. 0:01:47.040 --> 0:01:51.000 Basically, and must call for the impeachment of some officials. 0:01:51.040 --> 0:01:53.800 He says they're being corrupt and activist and. 0:01:53.880 --> 0:01:56.600 Karen one of the world's most successful multi strategy hedge 0:01:56.600 --> 0:02:00.640 fund founders, Ken Griffin, is praising Elon musk efforts. The 0:02:00.680 --> 0:02:04.800 Citadel CEO spoke at the UBS Financial Services Conference in Miami. 0:02:05.480 --> 0:02:08.320 This is a man who slept on the floor of 0:02:08.360 --> 0:02:11.839 his factory to make sure testls got produced. He will 0:02:11.880 --> 0:02:14.639 do what it takes to win. We want people who 0:02:14.639 --> 0:02:16.320 are in Washington who will. 0:02:16.160 --> 0:02:18.480 Do what it takes to help the American taxpayer and 0:02:18.480 --> 0:02:22.239 the American people Win Citadel CEO Ken Griffin, though did 0:02:22.280 --> 0:02:25.639 criticize President Trump's approach to tariffs. He says the trade 0:02:25.639 --> 0:02:29.880 plans dull the country's competitive edge and breed mistrust amongst 0:02:29.880 --> 0:02:31.400 allies Nathan. 0:02:31.440 --> 0:02:33.880 Many on the Democratic side of the aisle have not 0:02:34.120 --> 0:02:38.520 been as supportive of the administration's efforts. Massachusetts Senator Elizabeth 0:02:38.560 --> 0:02:42.560 Warren tells Bloomberg Balance of Power that Elon musk move 0:02:42.720 --> 0:02:46.040 to shut down us AID is effectively a move to 0:02:46.080 --> 0:02:50.760 shut down the government. Donald Trump, through his co president 0:02:50.880 --> 0:02:53.680 Elon Musk, is in the business of trying to shut 0:02:53.720 --> 0:02:58.320 down the government right now and doing so illegally. Senator 0:02:58.320 --> 0:03:01.359 Elizabeth Warren also accused tru Ump and Musk of effectively 0:03:01.440 --> 0:03:04.880 sidelining the nation's financial cops by shutting down the Consumer 0:03:05.000 --> 0:03:09.400 Financial Protection Bureau. Here Senator Warren's full conversation with Bloomberg's 0:03:09.440 --> 0:03:12.560 Joe Matthew and Kayley Lines on the Bloomberg Talks podcast 0:03:12.560 --> 0:03:13.640 feed then Karen. 0:03:13.720 --> 0:03:16.120 Senator Warren's comments come as The Wall Street Journal reports 0:03:16.160 --> 0:03:19.280 the Trump administration is looking into plans to consolidate the 0:03:19.320 --> 0:03:24.160 power of banking regulators without congressional approval. The journal says 0:03:24.280 --> 0:03:27.440 administration officials are looking into whether they can collapse the 0:03:27.440 --> 0:03:32.239 Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation the FDIC, into the Treasury Department. 0:03:32.560 --> 0:03:35.520 The report says staff inside the FDIC and the Office 0:03:35.560 --> 0:03:38.040 of the Controller of the Currency expect to hear from 0:03:38.040 --> 0:03:39.880 the Department of Government Efficiency soon. 0:03:40.560 --> 0:03:44.440 Meanwhile, on Capitol Hill yesterday, Nathan Senators heard from a 0:03:44.480 --> 0:03:47.960 Federal Reserve Chair Jerome Powell, who testify to the Senate 0:03:48.000 --> 0:03:51.040 Banking Committee. Powell told them he thinks the Central Bank 0:03:51.160 --> 0:03:53.520 does not need to rush to lower rates. 0:03:54.040 --> 0:03:56.960 As the economy evolves. We will adjust our policy stamps 0:03:56.960 --> 0:03:59.640 in a manner that best promotes our maximum employment and 0:03:59.640 --> 0:04:03.080 priced ability goals. If the economy remains strong and inflation 0:04:03.160 --> 0:04:05.920 does not continue to move sustainably toward two percent, we 0:04:05.960 --> 0:04:08.040 can maintain policy restrained for longer. 0:04:08.480 --> 0:04:12.000 Von yields climbed after Fed Chair j Powell's comments, Markets 0:04:12.000 --> 0:04:14.480 are pricing in around thirty three basis points of cuts 0:04:14.480 --> 0:04:17.400 in twenty twenty five, with the next move not expected 0:04:17.440 --> 0:04:21.240 until September. Powell will testify in the House today. Stay 0:04:21.279 --> 0:04:24.080 with Bloomberg for full coverage of his remarks starting at 0:04:24.080 --> 0:04:26.760 ten am Wall Street time on Bloomberg Radio and the 0:04:26.800 --> 0:04:29.719 Bloomberg's podcast page on YouTube. 0:04:29.800 --> 0:04:31.919 Well ahead of all that, Karen, investors will have a 0:04:31.960 --> 0:04:35.760 key economic report to digest this morning. The Consumer Price Index, 0:04:35.839 --> 0:04:38.559 says do out at eight thirty am Wall Street Time. 0:04:38.680 --> 0:04:41.800 Let's get a preview now from Bloomberg's John Tucker. So, John, 0:04:41.800 --> 0:04:42.600 what are we expecting? 0:04:42.760 --> 0:04:43.000 Well? 0:04:43.200 --> 0:04:47.000 Inflation Nathan proving to be stubborn as a mule. When 0:04:47.000 --> 0:04:50.360 you strip out more vulnerable components, economists suspected jump three 0:04:50.440 --> 0:04:53.840 tenths of eight percent month over month at three point 0:04:53.880 --> 0:04:56.479 one percent on a yearly basis. Now, remember the federal 0:04:56.480 --> 0:04:59.440 reserves target is two percent. If those turn out to 0:04:59.440 --> 0:05:01.680 be the number in this morning's report, the Fed will 0:05:01.720 --> 0:05:04.120 be in no rush to cut of indust rates. As 0:05:04.320 --> 0:05:08.200 Chairman Pale indicated, January would mark the fifth month in 0:05:08.279 --> 0:05:11.240 the last six that the core CPI has advanced three 0:05:11.240 --> 0:05:14.960 tenths of a percent. That is consistent with stalled progress 0:05:15.000 --> 0:05:19.279 and reducing inflation. The overall CPI probably will be driven 0:05:19.279 --> 0:05:23.039 by higher prices for energy and food, most notably eggs. 0:05:23.640 --> 0:05:25.640 Keep in mind, too, that a lot of companies and 0:05:25.680 --> 0:05:28.720 service providers they tend to hike prices and fees at 0:05:28.720 --> 0:05:31.680 the start of the year when consumers seem to be 0:05:31.760 --> 0:05:34.520 more willing to absorb the extra costs. In New York, 0:05:34.480 --> 0:05:36.120 I'm John Tucker, Bloomberg Radio. 0:05:36.320 --> 0:05:38.799 All right, John, thank you. In addition to CPI, traders 0:05:38.800 --> 0:05:41.080 continue to follow FED speak to get hints on the 0:05:41.120 --> 0:05:44.280 path of interest rates. Yesterday, New York Fed President John 0:05:44.320 --> 0:05:47.600 Williams said he expects inflation to slow toward two percent, 0:05:47.960 --> 0:05:51.560 but notes that policy related on certainty clouds the economic outlook. 0:05:51.760 --> 0:05:55.240 Williams added he'll closely watch prices to assess the impact 0:05:55.320 --> 0:05:58.480 on tariffs. Today, traders will hear from Atlanta FED President 0:05:58.560 --> 0:06:01.120 Raphael Bostik and Fedgunir Christopher Waller. 0:06:01.480 --> 0:06:04.400 On the geopolitical front, careen, President Trump is hailing the 0:06:04.440 --> 0:06:08.120 release of American Mark Fogel. The schoolteacher had been detained 0:06:08.160 --> 0:06:11.839 in Russia since twenty twenty one. Fogel was at the 0:06:11.880 --> 0:06:13.640 White House after his release. 0:06:14.360 --> 0:06:18.360 The super organism of people that came to my support 0:06:19.920 --> 0:06:24.479 and the love that I was given sustain me for 0:06:24.560 --> 0:06:26.200 three and a half years, and. 0:06:26.240 --> 0:06:29.240 Mark Fogel is calling President Trump a hero. The President 0:06:29.279 --> 0:06:32.479 says the terms of Fogel's release were very fair, but 0:06:32.520 --> 0:06:35.000 he didn't go into specifics. Trump says he hopes the 0:06:35.040 --> 0:06:37.800 move will allow Russia to work toward ending the war 0:06:37.920 --> 0:06:39.559 in Ukraine well Nathan. 0:06:39.640 --> 0:06:42.520 President Trump also backed off threats to withhold aid from 0:06:42.640 --> 0:06:45.360 Jordan after King of Dullah agreed to accept two thousand 0:06:45.440 --> 0:06:48.600 ill children from Gaza. Trump had threatened to withhold aid 0:06:48.680 --> 0:06:51.799 from Jordan and Egypt ahead of the King's visit Tuesday 0:06:51.880 --> 0:06:56.160 should the countries not accept Palestinian refugees. President Trump reiterated 0:06:56.160 --> 0:06:58.960 plans for the US to take ownership of Gaza and 0:06:59.000 --> 0:07:02.719 for Jordan and Egypt to absorb Palestinians, which Arab states 0:07:02.760 --> 0:07:07.479 are firmly against, and Trump's warning that Israel's break and 0:07:07.520 --> 0:07:10.520 Trump's warning that Israel break it ceasefire if AMOST delays 0:07:10.600 --> 0:07:12.480 the release of hostages by Saturday. 0:07:12.760 --> 0:07:15.680 Finally, Karen Apple has renamed the Gulf of Mexico the 0:07:15.680 --> 0:07:19.320 Gulf of America on its Apple Maps app. That follows 0:07:19.360 --> 0:07:21.800 the executive order the President Trump signed on his first 0:07:21.880 --> 0:07:24.480 day in office to change the name of the body 0:07:24.480 --> 0:07:27.520 of water. Comes after the US government updated its official 0:07:27.560 --> 0:07:30.680 map to reflect the new name as well. Alphabet's Google 0:07:30.800 --> 0:07:33.120 has made a similar update to its Google Maps, so 0:07:33.280 --> 0:07:35.240 has Microsoft's bing Maps. 0:07:38.920 --> 0:07:40.720 Time now for look at some of the other stories 0:07:40.720 --> 0:07:42.640 making news in New York and around the world. And 0:07:42.680 --> 0:07:45.880 for that we're joined by Bloomberg's Michael bar Michael, good morning. 0:07:45.720 --> 0:07:48.400 Good morning, Karen. The morning commute could be a bit 0:07:48.480 --> 0:07:53.200 tricky after more winter weinther accumulating snow will linger into 0:07:53.240 --> 0:07:55.880 this morning. For New York City and central New Jersey. 0:07:56.160 --> 0:08:00.000 The snowfall began last night north and west of the city. 0:08:00.000 --> 0:08:03.120 I barely got snow, if any, but in southern New 0:08:03.200 --> 0:08:05.680 Jersey close to a half a foot fell, where a 0:08:05.760 --> 0:08:09.200 winter storm warning was issued tonight. A new system light 0:08:09.280 --> 0:08:12.320 snow returns, changing the rain over night and could cause 0:08:12.360 --> 0:08:16.360 some icing problems before the rain ends Thursday morning. Meanwhile, 0:08:16.400 --> 0:08:19.440 in Washington, d C. A winter's Storm warning remains in 0:08:19.480 --> 0:08:23.320 effect until seven am. Heavy snow has also been falling 0:08:23.400 --> 0:08:26.800 in mid Atlantic states. This first responder is with the 0:08:26.840 --> 0:08:30.600 fire department in the Potomac Mills area of Virginia. 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The plea deal means Bannon avoids jail time. 0:09:25.640 --> 0:09:29.760 After yesterday's court hearing, Bannon said New York's law enforcers 0:09:29.840 --> 0:09:30.959 should be investigated. 0:09:31.800 --> 0:09:35.320 I'm calling on right now the Attorney General Pam Bonnie 0:09:35.360 --> 0:09:40.319 to begin an immediate criminal investigation to Letitia James Alvin 0:09:40.320 --> 0:09:42.440 Bragg Oliver for what they did to President Trump. 0:09:42.720 --> 0:09:46.280 Finally, a dog from the Working Group is named beston 0:09:46.400 --> 0:09:48.600 Show at the Westminster Kennel Club Dog. 0:09:48.400 --> 0:09:52.160 Show for Beston's Show at the one and forty ninth 0:09:52.240 --> 0:09:56.080 annual Westminster Kennel Club Dog Show. 0:09:56.120 --> 0:09:58.680 I choose the Giant Sall. 0:10:00.440 --> 0:10:03.280 The Giant Snauzer from New Jersey won the award at 0:10:03.360 --> 0:10:06.800 New York's Madison Square Garden last night. Global News twenty 0:10:06.800 --> 0:10:08.679 four hours a day and whenever you won it with 0:10:08.720 --> 0:10:12.719 the Bloomberg News. Now, I'm Michael Barr, and this is Bloomberg. 0:10:12.240 --> 0:10:15.040 Herron Monty from New Jersey. I love it. Thank you, 0:10:15.080 --> 0:10:22.560 Michael Barr. Time now for the Bloomberg Sports Update. Brownt 0:10:22.559 --> 0:10:25.200 to you. I Tri State Outie. Here's John stash Hour, 0:10:25.280 --> 0:10:25.959 John good lerning. 0:10:26.160 --> 0:10:26.319 Thanks. 0:10:26.400 --> 0:10:29.559 Karrent's top team in college basketball, the Auburn Tigers coming off. 0:10:29.559 --> 0:10:31.680 I lost to Florida, but still ranked number one and 0:10:31.720 --> 0:10:34.040 now twenty two and two with an eighty to sixty 0:10:34.120 --> 0:10:37.840 eight win at Vanderbilt. Saturday, Auburn visits our tribal Alabamo, 0:10:37.880 --> 0:10:41.200 who's ranked number two. Crimson tie twenty one and three, 0:10:41.280 --> 0:10:44.240 Blue Out Texas one O three to eighty. Clayton Kershaw, 0:10:44.240 --> 0:10:46.439 at age thirty six, will be back for an eighteenth 0:10:46.520 --> 0:10:49.240 season with the LA Dodgers. He had knee and toe 0:10:49.240 --> 0:10:53.040 injuries last season, only pitched seven games. That's a Bloomberg Sports. 0:10:52.760 --> 0:10:56.000 Update Coast to coast. 0:10:56.040 --> 0:10:59.920 I'm Bloomberg Radio Nition White on Sirius XM and around 0:11:00.120 --> 0:11:03.800 the world on Bloomberg dot Com and the Bloomberg Business app. 0:11:04.000 --> 0:11:05.960 This is Bloomberg Daybreak. 0:11:06.320 --> 0:11:09.200 President Donald Trump is moving ahead with his push to 0:11:09.280 --> 0:11:11.679 slash the size of the federal government. He assigned in 0:11:11.760 --> 0:11:14.719 executive order for agencies to work with Elon Musk and 0:11:14.760 --> 0:11:17.640 his Department of Government Efficiency and to hire no more 0:11:17.679 --> 0:11:21.319 than one person for every four who leave the federal government. 0:11:21.520 --> 0:11:23.800 Elon Musk was in the Oval Office as the President 0:11:23.840 --> 0:11:24.680 issued that directive. 0:11:24.880 --> 0:11:27.960 The people voted for major government reform, and that's what 0:11:28.000 --> 0:11:29.360 people are going to get. They're going to get what 0:11:29.360 --> 0:11:30.679 they voted for and for more. 0:11:30.720 --> 0:11:32.960 This morning, we are joined by Terry Haynes, the founder 0:11:33.000 --> 0:11:35.360 of Pangea Policy. It's great to speak with you this 0:11:35.440 --> 0:11:38.640 morning after we saw that rare appearance from Elon Musk 0:11:38.960 --> 0:11:42.280 defending the so called Doge effort, but at the same 0:11:42.360 --> 0:11:47.080 time saying that you know, with all the revelations that 0:11:47.120 --> 0:11:49.680 he's put online, there are going to be some mistakes 0:11:49.880 --> 0:11:53.800 that he's going to need to be corrected. Is a 0:11:53.880 --> 0:11:56.680 move fast and break things model the right approach when 0:11:56.679 --> 0:11:58.800 it comes to reigning in the federal government. 0:11:58.880 --> 0:12:02.200 Terry, good morning, Good morning, Nathan. I think what they've 0:12:02.280 --> 0:12:07.520 concluded before the inauguration is that it's pretty much the 0:12:07.559 --> 0:12:11.080 only way. One of the older adages of Washington has 0:12:11.080 --> 0:12:15.000 never let process be the issue, and lots and lots 0:12:15.040 --> 0:12:18.160 of presidents have followed that in pursuit of bigger goals. 0:12:18.760 --> 0:12:21.600 Ronald Reagan, for example, came in in part on the 0:12:21.640 --> 0:12:27.040 expectation that from his supporters that he'd do something broadly 0:12:27.080 --> 0:12:31.600 similar to what's happening today. But they concluded that that 0:12:31.679 --> 0:12:33.760 was going to actually break things. He didn't have the 0:12:33.760 --> 0:12:37.520 political support for it or the political environment for it 0:12:37.600 --> 0:12:40.679 with one House Democratic, and what would have you know 0:12:40.840 --> 0:12:42.800 ended up happening is he ended up focusing on big 0:12:42.800 --> 0:12:47.480 policy issues and kind of let the the machinery of 0:12:47.640 --> 0:12:51.240 Washington aside. Same thing right before nine to eleven, Don 0:12:51.320 --> 0:12:55.480 Rumsfeld wanted to end the Pentagon's a lot of waste, 0:12:55.520 --> 0:12:58.440 fraud and abuse, and the next day we had nine 0:12:58.480 --> 0:13:00.200 to eleven and that was the end of it. But 0:13:00.920 --> 0:13:03.360 here I think they've decided this is the only way 0:13:03.400 --> 0:13:06.280 to do things, and if they end up with seventy 0:13:06.280 --> 0:13:10.559 five percent of what they propose and try to achieve 0:13:10.960 --> 0:13:12.200 that'll be a good time for them. 0:13:12.640 --> 0:13:15.080 Is it really the only way, though, Terry. I mean, 0:13:15.120 --> 0:13:19.560 we've already seen the massive amount of lawsuits that have 0:13:19.280 --> 0:13:22.920 put up against the DOJE effort, and lots of criticism 0:13:23.559 --> 0:13:26.360 from Democrats as well when it comes to these ideas 0:13:26.400 --> 0:13:29.000 that have been thrown out of you know, shutting down 0:13:29.440 --> 0:13:33.720 certain agencies that have Congressional approval and would presumably need 0:13:33.800 --> 0:13:36.240 Congress to say so to get rid of. 0:13:37.160 --> 0:13:41.640 Well, these days, there will always be lawsuits, and I 0:13:41.640 --> 0:13:45.520 would note for the audience that it's they're just injunctions. 0:13:46.040 --> 0:13:49.319 What will end up happening is these things go fully litigated. 0:13:49.480 --> 0:13:52.679 And that's fine. They expected that. I think Trump now 0:13:52.720 --> 0:13:55.080 has said twice this week you know he expects that, 0:13:55.160 --> 0:14:00.640 and he's pretty even keeled about it. They think that. 0:14:00.880 --> 0:14:03.600 The second thing is that the machinery of Washington today 0:14:03.600 --> 0:14:07.200 with the tiny Republican majorities, is one where you can't 0:14:07.280 --> 0:14:12.240 get efficiencies done quickly and effectively. You know, whether it 0:14:12.320 --> 0:14:16.640 be collapsing departments or agencies or anything else. And you know, 0:14:17.000 --> 0:14:18.920 when you need sixty votes in the Senate, it's just 0:14:18.920 --> 0:14:22.360 not going to happen. So there's that. Finally, you know, 0:14:22.400 --> 0:14:25.040 what they're looking at is a situation where you know, 0:14:25.120 --> 0:14:28.640 the government, excuse me, the public has long since supported 0:14:29.240 --> 0:14:33.000 the idea of pursuing efficiencies in government, thank you. And 0:14:33.040 --> 0:14:36.040 I talked a couple of months ago about this brewing 0:14:36.080 --> 0:14:38.840 DOJE idea, and I said, look, I'm you know, they 0:14:38.920 --> 0:14:42.200 want to get two billion or excuse me, two trillion efficiencies. 0:14:42.240 --> 0:14:44.680 I guarantee you they can find half of that right 0:14:44.720 --> 0:14:49.520 off the top, and they're they're working on that, you know. 0:14:49.640 --> 0:14:53.280 But finally, I would also point out that they're not 0:14:53.400 --> 0:14:57.080 talking about ending entire programs. They're not talking about ending 0:14:57.120 --> 0:14:59.240 for an aid for example. What they're trying to do 0:14:59.360 --> 0:15:01.360 is is you know, I would look at it as 0:15:01.440 --> 0:15:04.800 essentially kind of purifying the stream and making sure that 0:15:05.440 --> 0:15:08.280 the dollars that are going where they're supposed to go 0:15:08.320 --> 0:15:11.720 are going for proper things and not for the long 0:15:11.800 --> 0:15:14.720 laundry list parade of horribles that we've seen earlier. 0:15:15.160 --> 0:15:16.960 There's still going to be a lot of question, isn't 0:15:17.000 --> 0:15:20.960 there about whether Elon Musk should be leading this effort. 0:15:21.320 --> 0:15:25.080 He's been named a special government employee, but he hasn't 0:15:25.120 --> 0:15:29.360 been confirmed by the Senate. His position doesn't require Senate 0:15:29.400 --> 0:15:33.880 confirmation because there's a question still, isn't there about what 0:15:34.040 --> 0:15:36.440 exactly that position is. We got about a minute left. 0:15:37.080 --> 0:15:39.800 Yeah, there are questions about that, and they're going to 0:15:39.800 --> 0:15:43.600 be questions about that. You know, I'd say that the 0:15:43.640 --> 0:15:46.680 two things. One is that you know, people that are 0:15:47.080 --> 0:15:51.000 focusing on Musk Qualm Musk are missing the point. It's 0:15:51.120 --> 0:15:53.360 you know, you're not We're not in a situation here 0:15:53.800 --> 0:15:58.400 where the president has been supplanned somehow, or in a 0:15:58.440 --> 0:16:02.040 situation where the president very clearly is saying, you know, 0:16:02.080 --> 0:16:03.800 this is a guy who's doing this job before me 0:16:03.960 --> 0:16:07.800 and subject to my approval. The other thing is, you know, 0:16:07.840 --> 0:16:10.040 there's a political dimension to this, and the political dimension 0:16:10.160 --> 0:16:14.320 hugely favors Republicans. On this Democratic Party is essentially split 0:16:14.400 --> 0:16:16.200 right down the middle on whether they had to be 0:16:16.200 --> 0:16:21.640 spending time on nattering on about Musk or actually getting 0:16:21.680 --> 0:16:25.520 around a series of issues that actually help average people. 0:16:25.680 --> 0:16:28.560 And you know, the folks who are going on and 0:16:28.560 --> 0:16:31.280 on about Musk like this is some great constitutional crisis, 0:16:31.280 --> 0:16:33.080 I think are missing a much bigger point. 0:16:33.880 --> 0:16:36.800 This is Bloomberg day Break, your morning podcast on the 0:16:36.920 --> 0:16:40.440 stories making news from Wall Street to Washington and beyond. 0:16:40.640 --> 0:16:43.040 Look for us on your podcast feed by six am 0:16:43.080 --> 0:16:46.480 Eastern each morning, on Apple, Spotify, or anywhere else you listen. 0:16:46.720 --> 0:16:49.560 You can also listen live each morning starting at five 0:16:49.600 --> 0:16:52.320 am Wall Street Time on Bloomberg eleven three to zero 0:16:52.320 --> 0:16:55.200 in New York, Bloomberg in ninety nine to one in Washington, 0:16:55.280 --> 0:16:59.880 Bloomberg ninety two nine in Boston, and nationwide on serious xm. 0:16:59.760 --> 0:17:03.840 Chan Plus listen coast to coast on the Bloomberg Business 0:17:03.880 --> 0:17:06.960 app now with Apple CarPlay and Android Atto interfaces. 0:17:07.200 --> 0:17:10.200 And don't forget to subscribe to Bloomberg News Now. 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