Trump Auto Tariffs; Eric Adams Heads to Court

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1) President Trump floats 25 percent tariffs on auto, chip, and drug imports President Donald Trump said he would likely impose tariffs on automobile, semiconductor, and pharmaceutical imports of around 25%, with an announcement coming as soon as April 2. Trump wants to give companies "time to come in" before announcing new import taxes, and said that when they come into the US and have their plant or factory here, there is no tariff.


2) The US says sanctions will remain on Russia for now after a high-level meeting on Ukraine Secretary of State Marco Rubio told European allies that the US will keep sanctions on Russia in place at least until a deal to end the Ukraine conflict is reached. President Donald Trump said he'll probably meet Vladimir Putin to discuss a settlement before the end of February, and signaled support for holding new elections in Ukraine after an agreement.


3) New York Mayor Eric Adams's political future heads to federal court A federal judge has scheduled a hearing on the Justice Department's request to drop corruption charges against New York City Mayor Eric Adams and wants an explanation for the request. The Justice Department's decision to abandon the prosecution was made despite the objections of some prosecutors, who resigned rather than carrying out the directive, and has been criticized as a "corrupt quid pro quo" for Adams' support of the Trump administration's immigration policies.

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Bloomberg Audio Studios, Podcasts, Radio News. 0:00:10.240 --> 0:00:10.799 Good morning. 0:00:10.840 --> 0:00:13.680 I'm Nathan Hager and I'm Karen Moscow. Here are the 0:00:13.720 --> 0:00:15.160 stories we're following today. 0:00:15.360 --> 0:00:18.599 Karen, we begin with Donald Trump's push for tariffs. The 0:00:18.640 --> 0:00:22.079 President says he will likely impose duties of around twenty 0:00:22.079 --> 0:00:26.639 five percent on imports of cars, semiconductors, and pharmaceuticals. He 0:00:26.680 --> 0:00:29.960 says he'll announce the new charges in April. As heard 0:00:29.960 --> 0:00:33.280 here on Bloomberg Radio, Trump spoke to reporters at his 0:00:33.440 --> 0:00:34.920 mar Al Lago club in Florida. 0:00:35.520 --> 0:00:38.000 It'll be twenty five percent and higher, and it'll go 0:00:38.159 --> 0:00:41.199 very substantially higher over a course of a year. But 0:00:41.280 --> 0:00:43.400 we want to give them time to come in because, 0:00:43.400 --> 0:00:45.400 as you know, when they come into the United States 0:00:45.440 --> 0:00:48.080 and they have their plant or factory here, there. 0:00:48.000 --> 0:00:50.240 Is no tariff. So we want to give them a 0:00:50.280 --> 0:00:51.080 little bit of a chance. 0:00:51.159 --> 0:00:53.479 Again, that was President Trump at mar A Lago. Now, 0:00:53.600 --> 0:00:56.960 new tariffs on cars would have sweeping effects on the industry. 0:00:57.000 --> 0:01:00.360 The roughly eight million passenger cars and light trucks into 0:01:00.400 --> 0:01:03.680 the US last year accounted for about half of US 0:01:03.800 --> 0:01:04.600 vehicle sales. 0:01:05.280 --> 0:01:08.000 Well, Nathan, President Trump is promising to cut hundreds of 0:01:08.040 --> 0:01:10.640 billions of dollars in waste out of the federal budget. 0:01:10.720 --> 0:01:13.840 The President defended the doge effort in an interview on 0:01:14.000 --> 0:01:18.440 Fox News Channel's Hannity program, alongside the man who's spearheading 0:01:18.440 --> 0:01:21.800 the cost cutting drive, Elon Musk. The overall goal is 0:01:21.880 --> 0:01:24.800 to try to get trillion dollars out of the deficit, 0:01:24.840 --> 0:01:28.000 and if the deficit is not quote under control, America 0:01:28.000 --> 0:01:28.759 will go bankrupt. 0:01:28.760 --> 0:01:30.720 This is a very important thing for PreO Will to understand. 0:01:31.000 --> 0:01:34.479 Elon Musk had talked about cutting two trillion dollars during 0:01:34.480 --> 0:01:37.880 the campaign. President Trump heaped praise on the world's richest 0:01:37.920 --> 0:01:39.000 man during the interview. 0:01:39.280 --> 0:01:41.560 He's a leader. Yeah, he gets it there. You get 0:01:41.560 --> 0:01:43.399 a lot of tech people, and you have people that go. 0:01:43.440 --> 0:01:45.480 To a tech but he gets it done. 0:01:45.959 --> 0:01:48.880 And the President tells Foxes Sean Hannity, if Musk has 0:01:48.920 --> 0:01:52.080 any business conflicts with his work on spending cuts, he 0:01:52.160 --> 0:01:53.080 won't be involved. 0:01:53.160 --> 0:01:53.559 Well, Karen. 0:01:53.600 --> 0:01:57.279 Treasury Secretary Scott Besson says Elon Musk's Department of Government 0:01:57.280 --> 0:02:00.200 Efficiency is saving the country tens of billions of dollars 0:02:00.200 --> 0:02:02.160 and also spoke on Fox News. 0:02:02.840 --> 0:02:06.280 I think I saw an estimate today of about fifty billion. 0:02:07.120 --> 0:02:11.079 So that's a very good start, and I don't think 0:02:11.080 --> 0:02:15.080 it's unreasonable to think that we could have several percent 0:02:15.200 --> 0:02:18.240 of GDP that we are saving. 0:02:18.840 --> 0:02:22.160 Treasury Secretary Scott Besson also says taxpayers don't need to 0:02:22.200 --> 0:02:25.000 worry about the security of their private data, while Elon 0:02:25.080 --> 0:02:28.200 Musk's team seeks to make the federal government more efficient. 0:02:28.280 --> 0:02:31.640 Well to foreign Policy Nathan, Secretary of State Marco Rubio 0:02:31.800 --> 0:02:34.760 said the US will keep sanctions on Russia at least 0:02:34.840 --> 0:02:37.400 until a deal is reached in the conflict in Ukraine. 0:02:37.600 --> 0:02:41.080 Rubio spoke to European allies after joining other US officials 0:02:41.160 --> 0:02:43.840 in Saudi Arabia for the highest level face to face 0:02:43.919 --> 0:02:48.440 meeting with Russian counterparts since Moscow's invasion in twenty twenty two. 0:02:48.960 --> 0:02:51.720 I came away today convinced that they are willing to 0:02:51.760 --> 0:02:55.280 begin to engage in a serious process to determine and 0:02:55.320 --> 0:02:58.959 how quickly and through what mechanism can and be brought 0:02:59.000 --> 0:03:02.200 to this war. Whether we can ultimately reach that outcome 0:03:02.639 --> 0:03:05.720 will obviously depend on every side in this conflict's willingness 0:03:05.919 --> 0:03:07.040 to agree to certain things. 0:03:07.639 --> 0:03:10.160 Secretary of said Rubio says an end of the war 0:03:10.240 --> 0:03:14.080 would open quote incredible opportunities to partner with the Russians. 0:03:14.360 --> 0:03:18.320 President Trump's Special Ukraine Envoy, Keith Kellogg, is now arrived 0:03:18.320 --> 0:03:20.519 in Kiev, a day after the Russia talks. 0:03:20.680 --> 0:03:23.920 Back in Washington, Karen Howard Ludnik has been confirmed and 0:03:24.040 --> 0:03:27.400 sworn in as Commerce Secretary. As a result, he's named 0:03:27.400 --> 0:03:30.400 his two eldest sons and three company deputies to run 0:03:30.440 --> 0:03:33.200 the core of his business group following his resignation from 0:03:33.320 --> 0:03:37.160 Canterer Fitzgerald. Lutnick also says he will divest his business 0:03:37.160 --> 0:03:39.400 interests within a few months of his appointment. 0:03:40.000 --> 0:03:40.160 Well. 0:03:40.200 --> 0:03:42.920 Back in New York, Nathan Mayor Eric Adams will face 0:03:42.960 --> 0:03:45.800 a federal judge in Manhattan later today. You will decide 0:03:45.800 --> 0:03:49.480 whether to grant the Justice Department's request to dismiss corruption charges. 0:03:49.520 --> 0:03:53.160 Just weeks before in April, trial begin more with Bloomberg's 0:03:53.160 --> 0:03:54.400 and Keleggi in New York. 0:03:54.960 --> 0:03:58.280 Judge Dale e Ho said the parties in the case 0:03:58.440 --> 0:04:01.240 must be prepared to address the reasons for the government's 0:04:01.240 --> 0:04:05.320 dismissal request. On Sunday, Adams told reporters his ability to 0:04:05.440 --> 0:04:07.280 lead through turmoil should be noted. 0:04:07.440 --> 0:04:10.000 Go back and doing analysis from the data I was 0:04:10.040 --> 0:04:12.320 invited to what we have accomplished. 0:04:12.400 --> 0:04:16.080 That is my ability to lead through turmoil, and I'm 0:04:16.120 --> 0:04:17.400 going to continue to do that. 0:04:17.480 --> 0:04:20.359 Adams has pleaded not guilty to charges that while in 0:04:20.400 --> 0:04:23.760 his prior role as Brooklyn Borough president, he accepted over 0:04:23.800 --> 0:04:27.800 one hundred thousand dollars in illegal campaign contributions and lavish 0:04:27.920 --> 0:04:31.159 travel perks from a Turkish official and business leader seeking 0:04:31.200 --> 0:04:32.560 to buy his influence. 0:04:32.800 --> 0:04:35.479 Ed Kleggy Bloomberg Radio, all righted, thank you. 0:04:36.600 --> 0:04:39.360 X is marking the spot for Elon Musk Lately, Bloomberg 0:04:39.440 --> 0:04:41.920 News has learned Musk's social media company X is in 0:04:42.000 --> 0:04:45.320 talks to raise money at a forty four billion dollar valuation. 0:04:45.600 --> 0:04:48.480 That's the same price the billionaire paid three years ago 0:04:48.839 --> 0:04:51.200 when the company was known as Twitter. The funding ground 0:04:51.200 --> 0:04:53.920 would be a remarkable turn of fortunes for X after 0:04:54.000 --> 0:04:58.120 Musk's takeover and overhaul caused many users and advertisers to 0:04:58.200 --> 0:04:59.120 flee well. 0:04:59.160 --> 0:05:02.000 Turning to the markets, now, Nathan stocks begin the trading 0:05:02.040 --> 0:05:05.479 session in record territory irrallyan chip makers drove the S 0:05:05.520 --> 0:05:08.200 and P five hundred to an all time high. Global 0:05:08.200 --> 0:05:11.280 stocks have become the most popular asset class with investors, 0:05:11.480 --> 0:05:14.160 according to a survey by Bank of America, investors are 0:05:14.200 --> 0:05:17.680 showing the biggest willingness to take risk in fifteen years. 0:05:18.040 --> 0:05:21.120 Fund managers cash levels fell to the lowest and twenty 0:05:21.200 --> 0:05:22.720 ten in that survey. 0:05:22.520 --> 0:05:25.040 And as stock Sorda records, Karen the CEO of one 0:05:25.080 --> 0:05:27.920 of Wall Street's biggest banks, is benefiting. City Group has 0:05:28.000 --> 0:05:31.360 lifted Jane Fraser's total compensation to thirty four and a 0:05:31.400 --> 0:05:34.280 half million dollars for twenty twenty four. That is a 0:05:34.360 --> 0:05:37.920 thirty three percent increase from the prior year. Jane Fraser's 0:05:37.960 --> 0:05:41.120 pay rise comes after City Group posted record revenue in 0:05:41.160 --> 0:05:42.560 three divisions and in. 0:05:42.520 --> 0:05:45.480 Europe, Nathan HSBC said it will incur one point eight 0:05:45.520 --> 0:05:47.960 billion dollars in charges over the next two years as 0:05:48.000 --> 0:05:51.920 it embarks on a global restructuring program. Europe's largest lender 0:05:51.960 --> 0:05:54.440 hopes the restructuring will allow it to whittle away three 0:05:54.480 --> 0:05:57.400 billion dollars in expenses in the coming years, with about 0:05:57.440 --> 0:06:01.160 half of that to be reinvested into priority grows both areas. 0:06:04.080 --> 0:06:05.400 And it's time now if we're looking at some of 0:06:05.400 --> 0:06:07.520 the other stories making news in New York and around 0:06:07.520 --> 0:06:09.680 the world, and for that we're joined by Bloomberg's John 0:06:09.720 --> 0:06:11.080 Tucker John, Good morning. 0:06:10.960 --> 0:06:14.279 And good morning, Karen. Investigators that were viewing monday's crash 0:06:14.320 --> 0:06:17.000 at that Delta Regional jet at Toronto appears in the 0:06:17.040 --> 0:06:20.920 International Airport. The plane's cockpit voice recorder and flight DITA 0:06:21.000 --> 0:06:24.320 recorder have now been recovered. They're also talking to passers 0:06:24.360 --> 0:06:26.960 and crew. John Nelson was among the passengers. 0:06:27.360 --> 0:06:30.240 We hit the runway extremely hard and we kind of 0:06:30.240 --> 0:06:33.040 popped up and felt like we were leaning to the left. 0:06:33.160 --> 0:06:35.720 There was a giant firewall down the side. I could 0:06:35.720 --> 0:06:39.400 actually feel the heat through the glass, and then we 0:06:39.440 --> 0:06:42.000 were going sideways. I'm not even sure how many times 0:06:42.120 --> 0:06:42.920 we like tumbled. 0:06:43.120 --> 0:06:46.040 The plane flipped over after landing. It's the fourth major 0:06:46.080 --> 0:06:49.679 aviation accident in North America in the past three weeks. 0:06:49.839 --> 0:06:52.599 There were nearly two dozen people injured, but all eighty 0:06:52.640 --> 0:06:56.240 on board escaped Flight forty eight nineteen with their lives. 0:06:56.880 --> 0:06:59.560 A blast of Arctic air has much of the nation 0:06:59.640 --> 0:07:02.599 continueing in that deep freeze. Let's get the update this 0:07:02.640 --> 0:07:06.119 morning from Bloomberg meteorroologist Rob Carolyn John. 0:07:06.160 --> 0:07:08.440 Bitter cold will continue to stretch from the coat Is 0:07:08.440 --> 0:07:10.800 into portions of Texas. It'll make its way into the 0:07:10.800 --> 0:07:14.000 Gulf coast and eventually portions of the southeast by tomorrow. 0:07:14.280 --> 0:07:17.360 We're looking at some spots watching their temperatures run fifty 0:07:17.400 --> 0:07:20.280 degrees below normal today. Now at ahead of the cold here, 0:07:20.360 --> 0:07:22.200 we've got a storm system that will bring snow to 0:07:22.200 --> 0:07:26.560 parts of Tennessee, Kentucky, Virginia, and North Carolina today. 0:07:26.760 --> 0:07:30.320 That's Bloomberg Meteorologist Rob Carolyn Hamas says it's ready to 0:07:30.400 --> 0:07:34.880 exchange its remaining Israeli hostages for Palestinian prisoners. It would 0:07:34.920 --> 0:07:37.520 come in the second phase of the Gaza Truce, leading 0:07:37.560 --> 0:07:40.640 to what they say would be a permanent ceasefire at 0:07:40.680 --> 0:07:45.400 Israel's full withdrawal from Gaza. Asap, Rocky dove into the 0:07:45.520 --> 0:07:47.920 arms of Rihanna as a court clerk read the not 0:07:48.000 --> 0:07:50.520 guilty verdict at his trial on two filain a counts 0:07:50.520 --> 0:07:54.080 of assault with a firearm. The Los Angeles courtroom, full 0:07:54.080 --> 0:07:56.600 of fans of the hip hop performer and is singing 0:07:56.680 --> 0:08:01.440 superstar partner, exploded into screaming glee. After a three week trial, 0:08:01.560 --> 0:08:04.360 the jury deliberated for just three hours to reach the 0:08:04.480 --> 0:08:08.760 verdict that spared Rocky prison sentence. The Vatican reported the 0:08:08.800 --> 0:08:12.200 diagnosis for the Ponta now more serious than originally thought. 0:08:12.600 --> 0:08:16.040 Both Francis is now fighting pneumonia. The eighty eight year 0:08:16.040 --> 0:08:18.160 old had a cat scan which showed that he now 0:08:18.200 --> 0:08:21.119 has an infection in both of his lungs. Global News 0:08:21.200 --> 0:08:23.200 twenty four hours Day and whenever you want it with 0:08:23.200 --> 0:08:24.240 Bloomberg News Now. 0:08:24.480 --> 0:08:26.880 I'm John Tucker. This is Bloomberg Karen. 0:08:27.240 --> 0:08:34.160 All right, John, thank you time now for the Bloomberg 0:08:34.200 --> 0:08:37.120 Sports Update, brought to you by Tri State Anti. Here's 0:08:37.200 --> 0:08:39.640 John stash Hour, John, Good morning, Good morning, Karen. 0:08:39.679 --> 0:08:41.960 Every baseball off season that appears to be one or 0:08:41.960 --> 0:08:44.000 two big name free agents A couple of years ago, 0:08:44.000 --> 0:08:47.600 Aaron Judge, Joeyotani than once sot Of, Vladimir Guerrero Junior. 0:08:47.640 --> 0:08:49.640 Maybe not quite at that level, but he's still only 0:08:49.720 --> 0:08:52.360 twenty six and last season in Toronto he hit three 0:08:52.480 --> 0:08:55.120 twenty three with thirty homers forty four doubles. He had 0:08:55.160 --> 0:08:58.000 set a deadline of yesterday to get a long term 0:08:58.040 --> 0:09:00.920 deal done with the Blue Jays. The deadline, as Guerrero said, 0:09:00.960 --> 0:09:04.480 they had their numbers, I had mine. He's another one 0:09:04.520 --> 0:09:07.640 apparently betting on himself. Unless something changes, he'll be a 0:09:07.640 --> 0:09:09.960 free agent after the upcoming season. Like Soto was, of course, 0:09:10.000 --> 0:09:12.000 went from the Yankees to the Mets, making for high 0:09:12.000 --> 0:09:14.960 hopes for Mets owner Steve Cohen. He was asked yesterday 0:09:14.960 --> 0:09:17.880 in Port Saint Lucy his goals for the upcoming campaign. 0:09:18.320 --> 0:09:21.640 Yeah, you always want to set high standards and high goals. 0:09:23.320 --> 0:09:25.719 There's no guaranteeing anything, right, It's really hard to win 0:09:25.720 --> 0:09:30.480 a World Series. But the thought of, you know, we're 0:09:30.480 --> 0:09:33.560 putting together a team, not just a team good for 0:09:33.600 --> 0:09:36.400 one year, but we want to create sustainable success. And 0:09:36.440 --> 0:09:38.679 if we keep making the playoffs, you know, why can't 0:09:38.720 --> 0:09:41.800 we find you know, ultimate again, know, get to the 0:09:41.880 --> 0:09:42.560 ultimate goal? 0:09:43.320 --> 0:09:46.120 Doone admits that with the Soto signing and others, they 0:09:46.160 --> 0:09:48.960 blew through their budget. Saint John's only lost one since 0:09:48.960 --> 0:09:51.079 twenty twenty five. Red Storm ranked tenth in the country. 0:09:51.080 --> 0:09:53.000 They are a top the Big East by two games, 0:09:53.320 --> 0:09:56.400 having won the Big East regular season since nineteen eighty six. 0:09:56.800 --> 0:09:59.520 Play tonight at DePaul, seating all off the stunning upset 0:09:59.559 --> 0:10:01.359 of you co on over the weekends. 0:10:01.559 --> 0:10:02.280 Last night at. 0:10:02.200 --> 0:10:04.960 Marquette eighty to fifty six. While the Huskies were back home, 0:10:05.000 --> 0:10:07.360 they beat Villanova sixty six to fifty nine. The NBA's 0:10:07.360 --> 0:10:09.480 back Tonight one game. It's a makeup in LA due 0:10:09.480 --> 0:10:12.080 to a postponement during the fires. The Lakers play Charlotte, 0:10:12.240 --> 0:10:15.000 third Laker game for Lukey Donsons, but Lebron James unlikely 0:10:15.040 --> 0:10:16.719 to play, has got that ankle injury that kept me 0:10:16.760 --> 0:10:19.080 from playing the All Star Game. Knicks are back tomorrow 0:10:19.120 --> 0:10:21.920 at the Garden against Chicago, and also tomorrow in Boston. 0:10:22.000 --> 0:10:25.640 It's the US and Canada the fourteen faceoff Championship game. 0:10:25.760 --> 0:10:28.920 Several US players nursing injuries, but only one has been 0:10:28.960 --> 0:10:32.640 ruled out. Bruins defenseman Charlie Mackabor, John Stashie, I War 0:10:32.720 --> 0:10:33.800 Bloomberg Sports Care. 0:10:33.720 --> 0:10:40.520 Nathan Coast to Coast on Bloomberg Radio, nationwide on Sirius XM, 0:10:40.640 --> 0:10:43.480 and around the world on Bloomberg dot Com and the 0:10:43.520 --> 0:10:46.600 Bloomberg Business app. This is Bloomberg Daybreak. 0:10:46.760 --> 0:10:48.080 Good morning, I'm Nathan Hager. 0:10:48.120 --> 0:10:51.720 President Donald Trump's Special Envoy to Ukraine, Keith Kellogg, has 0:10:51.880 --> 0:10:55.600 arrived in Kiev for talks with President Vladimir Zelenski. A 0:10:55.679 --> 0:10:58.720 day after the first high level meetings between the US 0:10:58.760 --> 0:11:03.000 and Russia the invasion in twenty twenty two, and following 0:11:03.040 --> 0:11:06.240 that summit in Riyad. Secretary of State Marco Rubio said, 0:11:06.280 --> 0:11:09.319 it is important to reset the US Russia relationship. 0:11:09.679 --> 0:11:12.200 We haven't really had much engagement with the Russians for 0:11:12.200 --> 0:11:16.200 almost three years, and it sets the table for future conversations. 0:11:16.240 --> 0:11:18.200 How that turns out, we'll be up to the parties 0:11:18.440 --> 0:11:20.360 and their willingness not just to make commitments but to 0:11:20.360 --> 0:11:20.960 live by them. 0:11:21.480 --> 0:11:23.880 That'll be tested in the weeks to come, and for 0:11:24.040 --> 0:11:26.800 some analysis. We are joined now by Bloomberg opinion columnist 0:11:26.840 --> 0:11:29.880 Mark Champion. Mark, thanks so much for joining us this morning. 0:11:29.920 --> 0:11:34.000 And also following this meeting, Secretary of State Rubio said 0:11:34.040 --> 0:11:37.480 that sanctions will remain in place on Russia at least 0:11:37.600 --> 0:11:40.480 until there is a deal to end the Ukraine conflict. 0:11:40.760 --> 0:11:43.880 I guess the question is whether the conflict is going 0:11:43.920 --> 0:11:45.120 to end quickly? 0:11:45.200 --> 0:11:48.360 Good morning, Yes, I mean it. 0:11:48.880 --> 0:11:53.480 At the moment, it looks as though the US is 0:11:53.679 --> 0:11:58.520 moving very quickly to end the conflict. That is going 0:11:58.559 --> 0:12:03.520 to be worrying much as the Ukrainians want to see 0:12:03.520 --> 0:12:05.640 the war end, and certainly also the Europeans. 0:12:05.720 --> 0:12:09.160 Is going to be worrying to both simply because. 0:12:09.600 --> 0:12:13.360 You know, the the quicker you want to end it, 0:12:13.559 --> 0:12:17.480 the easier you know, the path is that takes you 0:12:17.520 --> 0:12:23.920 to giving concessions to to Russia and making enforcing concessions 0:12:23.920 --> 0:12:29.240 on the weaker parties, which is both Ukraine and Europe. 0:12:30.080 --> 0:12:32.880 And at the moment it does rather look as though 0:12:32.920 --> 0:12:34.800 we are you know, headed in that direction. 0:12:36.000 --> 0:12:41.120 The Ukrainian side says it wants security guarantees. The US 0:12:41.120 --> 0:12:45.360 has said it recognizes that what could security guarantees look like? 0:12:46.120 --> 0:12:48.000 Well, that's you know, for the Ukrainians, that's the most 0:12:48.000 --> 0:12:52.080 worrying thing they can deal with, you know, territorial losses 0:12:52.120 --> 0:12:54.720 at least a facto if you know, if not to jury. 0:12:55.600 --> 0:12:59.280 But what they've always said is they have to be 0:12:59.640 --> 0:13:04.000 as solid security guarantees because we know that the Russians 0:13:04.040 --> 0:13:07.320 will otherwise be back. This happened after twenty fourteen, when 0:13:07.320 --> 0:13:12.160 they made a deal that didn't include security guarantees. You know, 0:13:12.280 --> 0:13:18.880 the original you know, Budapest memorandum that under which Ukraine 0:13:18.880 --> 0:13:22.160 gave up its nuclear weapons also said that you know 0:13:22.200 --> 0:13:26.600 that the various parties, including Russia, would guarantee Ukraine's borders, 0:13:27.040 --> 0:13:30.520 but there weren't any concrete security guarantees in there. And 0:13:30.760 --> 0:13:34.360 you've had you know, invasion of Ukraine by Russia and 0:13:35.280 --> 0:13:39.920 you know, no Western troops into support, you know, to 0:13:40.760 --> 0:13:44.160 follow up on the Budhapest, MEPARANDUS. So the Ukrainians have 0:13:44.320 --> 0:13:47.760 very bitter experience about this, and they are quite united 0:13:47.760 --> 0:13:50.840 about it actually, and you know, so I think, you know, 0:13:50.880 --> 0:13:52.760 there is a real possibility you end up with a 0:13:52.840 --> 0:13:56.200 situation in which the Americans say, okay, we've got a 0:13:56.240 --> 0:14:02.080 deal with the Russians, and then the Ukrainians say, we 0:14:02.160 --> 0:14:05.680 don't accept it. And you know, the at the moment, 0:14:06.160 --> 0:14:10.199 both the Kremlin and President Trump yesterday and some extraordinary 0:14:10.280 --> 0:14:15.959 remarks are pushing for elections that would get Zelensky replaced. 0:14:16.840 --> 0:14:20.560 But I suspect that that would you know, he in 0:14:20.600 --> 0:14:23.600 these circumstances, with such a deal being pushed on them, 0:14:23.600 --> 0:14:26.480 if that, if that's how it goes, he might he 0:14:26.560 --> 0:14:29.320 might well. If elections were held, it should be very 0:14:29.320 --> 0:14:35.880 difficult and non constitutional, he might well win. And you know, 0:14:35.960 --> 0:14:39.320 so I think it's a it's a we don't know 0:14:39.440 --> 0:14:41.960 yet how this is going to turn out. We don't 0:14:42.000 --> 0:14:45.760 know yet how much the US will give away with 0:14:46.000 --> 0:14:49.000 Ukraine and Europe not at the table. They've already given away, 0:14:49.280 --> 0:14:52.960 you know, most demands that the Russians have They said that, 0:14:53.480 --> 0:14:56.480 you know, Ukraine will not be admitted into NATO, that 0:14:56.520 --> 0:14:59.560 it will not get its territory back, and that the 0:14:59.680 --> 0:15:04.600 US will you know, will not provide involved in leading 0:15:04.680 --> 0:15:07.560 on security guarantees. And it's more or less just sort 0:15:07.600 --> 0:15:09.760 of shrugged at shoulders and said that if Europe wants 0:15:09.840 --> 0:15:13.120 to send He's keeping force in then that's fine by 0:15:13.160 --> 0:15:13.680 the US. 0:15:14.440 --> 0:15:17.880 But so far we haven't seen a lot more commitment. 0:15:18.120 --> 0:15:20.200 So in our last minute, mark, how important are these 0:15:20.280 --> 0:15:24.080 conversations going to be between the especially Ukraine Envoy Kellogg 0:15:24.560 --> 0:15:29.320 and Ukraine's president a day after Ukraine wasn't included in 0:15:29.360 --> 0:15:30.400 these Russia at tacks. 0:15:30.680 --> 0:15:31.400 Well, that's a very. 0:15:31.320 --> 0:15:35.120 Good question, you know, so the Ukraine envoy was not 0:15:35.280 --> 0:15:35.960 at the talks. 0:15:36.040 --> 0:15:37.760 Also, Kellogg was not at the talks. 0:15:38.760 --> 0:15:43.840 You know, He's now going to try and reassure the 0:15:43.960 --> 0:15:46.479 Ukrainians and reassure so the Europeans. 0:15:47.120 --> 0:15:48.280 That's kind of his job. 0:15:49.520 --> 0:15:52.760 But you know, from what we can see in terms 0:15:52.800 --> 0:15:56.440 of who is actually you know, taking the lead, he 0:15:56.680 --> 0:16:01.720 is not the guy. You know, it's more Steve Whitcoff, 0:16:02.480 --> 0:16:06.960 who was the Trump Special envoy on Gaza also to 0:16:07.080 --> 0:16:12.160 Israel and he was at the table. 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