Switch 2 Review, The Alters, and FBC Firebreak (Feat. Eric Van Allen)

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<v Speaker 1>the industry. I'm one of your hosts today, Alex van Aiken.
<v Speaker 1>I'm joined by Marcus Stewart. How you doing, Marcus?
<v Speaker 2>Hey, I'm doing well. How are you, Alex?
<v Speaker 1>I'm feeling great. I'm feeling rejuvenated after our last conversation
<v Speaker 1>in the hotel suite. You know, I like not recording
<v Speaker 1>this at ten pm at night. I feel like I
<v Speaker 1>have generally more to give at this epident.
<v Speaker 2>That's when all the spicy stuff comes out, though late
<v Speaker 2>at night.
<v Speaker 1>That's fair, that's fair. Well. Also joining us is Charles Heart.
<v Speaker 1>How you doing, Charles?
<v Speaker 3>Hello, I'm good. I just just came back from seeing
<v Speaker 3>SGF Super Good Friends.
<v Speaker 1>Well, speaking of Super Good Friends, We're joined today by
<v Speaker 1>Eric van Allen, returning guest friend of the show. Hello, Eric,
<v Speaker 1>how are you.
<v Speaker 4>I know about super good that's a little presumptuous, like
<v Speaker 4>like kind good, like like okay friends? Maybe yeah? Hello.
<v Speaker 4>I was also at the summer Jeff fest as I
<v Speaker 4>call it.
<v Speaker 3>Alex, you just got you just got You just tried
<v Speaker 3>to super friend zone Eric and somehow got normal friend zone.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you got friends back.
<v Speaker 1>I know, I know, I know it's real, and I
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<v Speaker 1>get into a very big and hindu switch to review discussion.
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<v Speaker 1>Firebreak with us, the new multiplayer spinoff of Control by Remedy,
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<v Speaker 1>Summer game Fest. Obviously, we talked about it a lot
<v Speaker 1>last week. There was so much to play last week.
<v Speaker 1>I was really thinking during our podcast last week, Wow,
<v Speaker 1>I'm really only hitting probably twenty percent of what I played.
<v Speaker 1>And so we're going to try to rapid fire get
<v Speaker 1>through these. But Charles, I'm gonna send it over to
<v Speaker 1>you first. You've got a few you want to talk about.
<v Speaker 1>What you want to talkalk about?
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, okay, So I'm gonna keep it fast and tight,
<v Speaker 3>fast and tight like the Flash.
<v Speaker 4>I don't know.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, I kind of butcher I kind of butchered
<v Speaker 3>that he wears.
<v Speaker 2>A tight suit.
<v Speaker 4>So yeah, yeah, yeah.
<v Speaker 3>You know, I appreciate you. No, I appreciate you. Try
<v Speaker 3>to save me even though played a game called uh
<v Speaker 3>End of Abyss. This is one of the games Epic
<v Speaker 3>is publishing.
<v Speaker 1>It is.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I took a bunch of Epic Game appointments from
<v Speaker 3>Alex and they were, yeah, I'm.
<v Speaker 1>Really sad, yeah, Alex for me, and the Abass looked
<v Speaker 1>like that was previously it didn't have a title, but
<v Speaker 1>that's the the Section nine game or the Yeah.
<v Speaker 3>It's a top down twin stick metroid Vania kind of
<v Speaker 3>in the vein of a lot of like Soul's Life,
<v Speaker 3>like Metrovena hybrids. You see a lot like a hollow
<v Speaker 3>night type and aesthetically kind of reminded me of like
<v Speaker 3>if you did Tunic Button Metroid. So it's got the
<v Speaker 3>aesthetics of what I felt like an old Metroid. There's
<v Speaker 3>a button to scan things like you do in Metroid
<v Speaker 3>Prime that helps you do stuff, and you're unlocking new
<v Speaker 3>weapons to explore the world. Really great, tough combat, really
<v Speaker 3>great atmosphere. Really like that game. Then I played a
<v Speaker 3>game called Out of Words, which I think used to
<v Speaker 3>be called Vocabulantis and they changed it.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that was the best name change of the show.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's great co op I'm gonna call it, and
<v Speaker 3>it takes too like for lack of a better term,
<v Speaker 3>but it's a co op game. Has to be played
<v Speaker 3>co op two people, stop motion animated, so it's absolutely gorgeous.
<v Speaker 3>All the backgrounds and stuff are all handmade and like
<v Speaker 3>it takes too You go through a bunch of different
<v Speaker 3>worlds and there's very unique mechanics. It starts out as
<v Speaker 3>you guys throw a little like magic manta ray back
<v Speaker 3>and forth and whoever has it, they're gravity goes upwards
<v Speaker 3>so they're walking on the ceiling the other person's down
<v Speaker 3>and you have to like toss it to other person
<v Speaker 3>the time, like unique jumps and stuff, which is really cool.
<v Speaker 3>A manta I think it's yeah, like it's like a
<v Speaker 3>cute little blue manta ray.
<v Speaker 2>That's cool. That's just just the random animal. I guess
<v Speaker 2>it definitely is also can I I take exceptions? It
<v Speaker 2>takes two likes. I think you need Adventures of cookies
<v Speaker 2>and cream likes.
<v Speaker 3>I don't know what that means.
<v Speaker 2>Cookie it's from software.
<v Speaker 3>No, I like, I like cookie like. I like that
<v Speaker 3>as a term. I'll use it. Well. I like there's cream,
<v Speaker 3>so should we cream like?
<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to pull up on the ares of cookies
<v Speaker 1>and cream?
<v Speaker 2>Does no one else know this game from software?
<v Speaker 3>I'm trying. I'm trying to make this fast and tight,
<v Speaker 3>and you're bringing in cream likes into the mix.
<v Speaker 2>The flash, flashy, slow and loose. No, but it's very good.
<v Speaker 3>I was gonna say. The other mechanics, so that's one
<v Speaker 3>where you're still platforming, you're throwing a mechanic back and forth.
<v Speaker 3>Then I saw a later section of the game where
<v Speaker 3>you basically find this old primordial clay and you glob
<v Speaker 3>into one clay monster and each player controls one of
<v Speaker 3>the clay monster's arms and you like swing around the
<v Speaker 3>level really.
<v Speaker 4>Fast and this stuff.
<v Speaker 3>So that was like a taste of like how different
<v Speaker 3>they can be. That was like very promising, and it's
<v Speaker 3>a game that looked good. But when I was playing it,
<v Speaker 3>I was price how good it felt to play. And
<v Speaker 3>a lot of times those games, there's a lot of
<v Speaker 3>games that look good that don't necessarily play good, and
<v Speaker 3>this seems like it has both. Nice Next, I played
<v Speaker 3>sort of the Sea Giant Squeak.
<v Speaker 2>I'm excited.
<v Speaker 3>This is the people that made The Pathless absoo, and
<v Speaker 3>that's the art director that worked on Journey composer also
<v Speaker 3>wentry back to the score. It is like a uh,
<v Speaker 3>skating surfing game in the desert where you can just
<v Speaker 3>flip around and do tricks. And that's not that's that's
<v Speaker 3>just for fun. It's mostly like a adventure game. We're
<v Speaker 3>going around unlocking the world and there's this really cool
<v Speaker 3>visual effects where you'll activate these like blue beacons and
<v Speaker 3>then the sand will turn into water, and so you're
<v Speaker 3>surfing on the water and then off the water onto
<v Speaker 3>the sand. It's just like very visually breath taking, minimal
<v Speaker 3>text to explain, you know, what the world is. But
<v Speaker 3>it was very very good game.
<v Speaker 1>With that and you and and real quick, sorry, this
<v Speaker 1>is just one I'm really interested in. Yeah, yeah, you said,
<v Speaker 1>how are you You're kind of just exploring the world.
<v Speaker 1>Are there things you're supposed to be finding? Is it
<v Speaker 1>is it? Does it? Does it reveal yourself like as
<v Speaker 1>you're playing it?
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's so so for example, it started out it's
<v Speaker 3>it's a linear game. So we start out and you're
<v Speaker 3>in like one area and then it opens up and
<v Speaker 3>it's a pretty big open world zone. And I picked
<v Speaker 3>up that Okay, there's these two statues on this one
<v Speaker 3>big like sand temple, and I can go to the
<v Speaker 3>left and then eventually open that one statue that opens
<v Speaker 3>a path door and then open up the other half
<v Speaker 3>of the door in this other place. So it's all linear,
<v Speaker 3>but it's reminiscent of other games that the studio has
<v Speaker 3>done where it's like you have these big open spaces
<v Speaker 3>that are like fun to move around, but it is
<v Speaker 3>ultimately very linear. Cool, and there's you can like unlock
<v Speaker 3>new tricks and.
<v Speaker 4>Stuff, which is tricks can you like the first.
<v Speaker 3>Button you get is the trick button, and then the
<v Speaker 3>second button you get is the advanced tricks button. You
<v Speaker 3>can hold you can hold like the bumper and then
<v Speaker 3>press a bunch of buttons in the air to do
<v Speaker 3>like different poses. And that was just the intro, Like
<v Speaker 3>maybe they get really crazy. I don't think they have
<v Speaker 3>any gameplay benefits.
<v Speaker 1>It's just for fun, okay, score system or anything.
<v Speaker 3>Just well, they did actually tell me there is a
<v Speaker 3>hidden score system in the game. Matt Navia, the creative director,
<v Speaker 3>told me, when you beat the game after the credits,
<v Speaker 3>it will tell you your score, your trick point score, and
<v Speaker 3>then when you played the game again a new game, plus,
<v Speaker 3>you can opt to have the score meter on the
<v Speaker 3>screen if you just want to like brack up points
<v Speaker 3>for some reason.
<v Speaker 2>Okay, so I hope you can do.
<v Speaker 4>Christ there.
<v Speaker 3>Just insane stuff. And then my last one I played
<v Speaker 3>I couldn't talk about until today June eighteenth, when we're
<v Speaker 3>recording is Marvel Cosmic Invasion side scroller Beat Him Up.
<v Speaker 3>Playing as Marvel characters. It has that exact great feeling
<v Speaker 3>where it's like this this game looks like it came
<v Speaker 3>out in nineteen ninety six, but it feels like it
<v Speaker 3>came out today, you know, like it plays exactly how
<v Speaker 3>I wanted to play and how I've like imagine it
<v Speaker 3>should play. But it's got all the quality of life stuff,
<v Speaker 3>but like a nice classic aesthetic. I played as spider Man, Storm, Venom, Wolverine,
<v Speaker 3>and at the very end I played at as fila
<v Speaker 3>Vel and Captain America, and it's they all felt very different.
<v Speaker 3>Flying characters were very fun. I had a lot of
<v Speaker 3>fun playing as Storm, and then some characters block and
<v Speaker 3>you can like parry a lot of characters dodge to
<v Speaker 3>get out of the way of stuff. And as you
<v Speaker 3>were going through like the world, there's like chaos happening
<v Speaker 3>around you. That's like telling the story in the environment
<v Speaker 3>as you progress. And we like started on the street
<v Speaker 3>and then we fought the Beatle and we went up
<v Speaker 3>on like a Shield hell a carrier, and there was
<v Speaker 3>some kind of war going on between Shield and Aim,
<v Speaker 3>and it was kind of a thing where it's like
<v Speaker 3>I'm not really paying attention, but I'm fully following along
<v Speaker 3>with everything that's happening. It's all just kind of backdrop
<v Speaker 3>to just do fun tricks and web people up and
<v Speaker 3>swing around. It's really fun. Oh, each each person plays
<v Speaker 3>has two characters at once also, so you can do
<v Speaker 3>a bunch of like cool combos where you like hit
<v Speaker 3>someone as Spider Man and then swap into Storm and
<v Speaker 3>then swap back to Spider Man.
<v Speaker 1>Okay, And I.
<v Speaker 3>Believe it's up to four player local or online co op,
<v Speaker 3>so at any given point you can have four people
<v Speaker 3>on screen, I mean, eight different heroes there. You're all
<v Speaker 3>collectively swapping between it's really cool.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, what's thing too? That This is by Tribute Games
<v Speaker 2>who did Team and t Shredder's Revenge. This is their
<v Speaker 2>next thing.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, which you can tell it feels it's got, it's
<v Speaker 3>got the vibe of like this isn't this is a
<v Speaker 3>new old game.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's It's one of those games I don't have
<v Speaker 1>a lot of questions about because you kind of see,
<v Speaker 1>you see what it is. Yeah, cool, got it it is.
<v Speaker 3>It looks it plays how it looks like it plays,
<v Speaker 3>which is to say, awesome, all.
<v Speaker 1>Right, cool, can't wait. How about you, Marcus?
<v Speaker 4>What even?
<v Speaker 1>What do you check out at SGF?
<v Speaker 2>I played Blighted, which is drink Box Studios new game
<v Speaker 2>drink Box makers of Guaca Melee Severed their last game,
<v Speaker 2>Nobody Saves the World, I'd say compared to the specifically
<v Speaker 2>their last two games, like Nobody Saves the World and
<v Speaker 2>Severed blight it's probably a lot more familiar genre wise,
<v Speaker 2>like they're not, at least from what I've seen. It
<v Speaker 2>isn't like too out of the box, like you're playing
<v Speaker 2>it's like this kind of esimate isomet view like action
<v Speaker 2>game you can play either alone or in co op.
<v Speaker 2>It was one to two players when I was there,
<v Speaker 2>I was playing one of the devs, but they were
<v Speaker 2>telling me that they are tinkering with expanding a number
<v Speaker 2>of players on screen, so it might be more than
<v Speaker 2>that when it, you know, when it gets closer to launch.
<v Speaker 2>But you're going around. You're playing as these kind of
<v Speaker 2>skeleton warriors after your village gets destroyed by this like
<v Speaker 2>bad guy, and like the cool thing about this world
<v Speaker 2>is that, like it kind of has like a meso
<v Speaker 2>American kind of vibe, where like the culture of your
<v Speaker 2>village is that when people die, the villagers eat their
<v Speaker 2>brains to like gain their memories and like it like
<v Speaker 2>preserves their memories and their knowledge. And so this bad
<v Speaker 2>guy shows up and kills everyone and just consumes all
<v Speaker 2>of their brains, so he has like the sum of
<v Speaker 2>the villagers collective knowledge and abilities. So you're trying to
<v Speaker 2>go get those backs. So you go around fighting a
<v Speaker 2>bunch of bad guys, and you're fighting these giant monsters
<v Speaker 2>and eating their brains and that's how you get new
<v Speaker 2>powers and like a very like Metroid esque sort of
<v Speaker 2>like ability and like exploration gating, like you're going around
<v Speaker 2>seeing like, oh, I can't get past this until I
<v Speaker 2>eat this guy's brain. But we fought a like weird
<v Speaker 2>spider horse monster. It kind of looked like that water
<v Speaker 2>that Poseidon boss and God of War three if he
<v Speaker 2>wasn't covered in water. And then once we ate his brain,
<v Speaker 2>we could summon him and he just shows up as
<v Speaker 2>like a ghost version of himself and just starts like
<v Speaker 2>stomping around on top of doing just like hack and
<v Speaker 2>slash stuff with your scythe weapons. It's got a little
<v Speaker 2>bit of souls is nessing it well with like when
<v Speaker 2>you die, you started a bonfire and you got to
<v Speaker 2>go get your things back. So it's like a blend
<v Speaker 2>of different.
<v Speaker 3>Is this like a horror game? Like what is the
<v Speaker 3>aesthetic of because they're described there is some things, but
<v Speaker 3>I don't know the studio to be scary, I don't know.
<v Speaker 2>No, it's that it's that same drink box style, like
<v Speaker 2>very colorful, very bright, vibrant. It's like you know how
<v Speaker 2>like nobody says the world or even sever like it's
<v Speaker 2>got like dark stuff, but it's so it's presented in
<v Speaker 2>such a bright and weird way that it's like not scary,
<v Speaker 2>it's just weird Okay, I.
<v Speaker 1>Feel like ever felt more oppressive.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's true.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and that this kind of reminds me more of
<v Speaker 1>that when.
<v Speaker 3>You say eating brains. Is it literally like we see
<v Speaker 3>like skulls get split open and the brains could eat
<v Speaker 3>out or is it like more artistic than that?
<v Speaker 2>From what I understand, I mean, I think it's pretty literal.
<v Speaker 2>It's like this guy's dead and their brains there and
<v Speaker 2>you just eat it. Yeah, there's no metaphors consuming these brains.
<v Speaker 4>So so I also demoed this, and the way they
<v Speaker 4>showed it was like in the culture, they would like
<v Speaker 4>plant they would bury the bodies and then like trees
<v Speaker 4>would spring up and you'd eat the berries, and so
<v Speaker 4>it was like an abstract eating of brains. And then
<v Speaker 4>one dude was like, let's cut out the middle man, guys,
<v Speaker 4>it's a lot of steps, and also let's not wait
<v Speaker 4>until they're dead. Those are good brains, and and he
<v Speaker 4>just started going in on that and then got like
<v Speaker 4>corrupted because of it. So I admire like the efficiency.
<v Speaker 1>But oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
<v Speaker 4>Exactly. It's it's a cool. It's a cool thing and
<v Speaker 4>definitely has those like severed vibes. I really really like Severed,
<v Speaker 4>and so I'm glad to see them like going back
<v Speaker 4>to that sort of style.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, I I really it. Also, I mean there
<v Speaker 1>are hints of like I was the last game. I'm sorry,
<v Speaker 1>nobody Nobody saves the world. Yeah, well, like you are
<v Speaker 1>really kind of collecting in a way, you're collecting brains
<v Speaker 1>in that game and using them as transformations, like you
<v Speaker 1>kind of have like a catalog of you know, you
<v Speaker 1>can turn into the horse in that game, and now
<v Speaker 1>you can do this, and then there's like elements from
<v Speaker 1>that game that like based on what you're saying, like, oh,
<v Speaker 1>there's kind of a similar concept here with like yeah,
<v Speaker 1>and it sounds interesting. I really like just the the
<v Speaker 1>that plot, like that, that that setting of oh yeah,
<v Speaker 1>brains and what you say, meso America.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's or it's got that vibe like like a
<v Speaker 2>psychedelic meso American like western Ish vibe to it. But yeah,
<v Speaker 2>play that. I also checked out over at Atari. Probably
<v Speaker 2>the only game I had no idea what it was
<v Speaker 2>because it was sort of like mysterious until I got
<v Speaker 2>they confirm what it was. But it's called Adventure of Samsara.
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if you guys have seen this, but
<v Speaker 2>it is a two D metroid vania that is loosely
<v Speaker 2>connected to the adventure the older like the classic Guitari
<v Speaker 2>game Adventure. Wow, it's like very foundational to like just
<v Speaker 2>the adventure game genre, like like Zelda probably doesn't exist
<v Speaker 2>without adventure and it's wild, Like I don't think it's
<v Speaker 2>quite as like the closest comparison is like what they
<v Speaker 2>did with what was it yars Y of like taking
<v Speaker 2>one of their classic franchises and reimagining it in sort
<v Speaker 2>of like a modern sort of context where you're playing
<v Speaker 2>as this night. It's got this very like almost like
<v Speaker 2>rotoscope animation, like like eight bit style where you're going
<v Speaker 2>around like just killing monsters basically in like a big
<v Speaker 2>Metroidvenua map. The like the most remarkable thing or interesting
<v Speaker 2>thing for me about it was like outside of the
<v Speaker 2>sort of like loose connections to adventure, like I ran
<v Speaker 2>into the Dragon from Adventure at one point, but it
<v Speaker 2>is like the animation of like it's a very deliberate
<v Speaker 2>animation style in the way that the original Prince of
<v Speaker 2>Persia is so like when you're climbing up ledges, you
<v Speaker 2>are seeing like, oh, this is this is very fluid
<v Speaker 2>and it takes a little while. And that extends to
<v Speaker 2>the attack animations, like you have a sword and shield,
<v Speaker 2>but you can't hold your shield to block. You can
<v Speaker 2>only parry with the shield, so if you want to
<v Speaker 2>dodge things, you have to time it. I will say, though,
<v Speaker 2>I think that the parrying mechanics sort of clashes with
<v Speaker 2>the sort of like deliberateness of the animation because there's
<v Speaker 2>so many frames to like pulling your shield at that
<v Speaker 2>you really kind of have the plan in advance, like Okay,
<v Speaker 2>I have to tap it like a second and a
<v Speaker 2>half earlier because I have to wait for him to
<v Speaker 2>pull his shield out all the way to deflect this
<v Speaker 2>like sowred strike coming my way. And that was really
<v Speaker 2>messing with me. And like, I love Perry mechanics and games,
<v Speaker 2>but you're so used. I'm so used to it to
<v Speaker 2>being like you know, faster pace like kind of reflex
<v Speaker 2>based things, so like having it in a more slowed
<v Speaker 2>and deliberate fashion. I don't think I'm entirely in love
<v Speaker 2>with Like I kind of got used to it during
<v Speaker 2>my like thirty minutes I played to it, but I
<v Speaker 2>was like, I don't know about this. But other than that,
<v Speaker 2>it's like it's like it didn't blow me away as
<v Speaker 2>someone that is like a metro danea Siko. But I
<v Speaker 2>think just the idea of just resurrecting adventure in this
<v Speaker 2>format is like super fascinating to me.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's interesting that they I was looking up the
<v Speaker 1>developer of the game, Ilex Games, and this is their
<v Speaker 1>first game since twenty seventeen. It looks like they had
<v Speaker 1>a demo for Adventure of Simsara on Steam back in
<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty. Oh wow, So I'm curious, huh. And the
<v Speaker 1>last game I made was not well received. But you
<v Speaker 1>know that is it's called face It a Game to
<v Speaker 1>Fight Inner Demons.
<v Speaker 4>I play that game every day. Baby, Let's go one, and.
<v Speaker 1>It definitely looks like a glow up in terms of
<v Speaker 1>face it, and in this game, I would will say
<v Speaker 1>it is the word. Yeah, face it a game to
<v Speaker 1>fight inner demons, that's the whole title.
<v Speaker 2>It's like, no, you face it like Penny one.
<v Speaker 1>Oh no.
<v Speaker 3>But finally, I wasn't sure if you were saying face
<v Speaker 3>sit because you're saying that's a different game.
<v Speaker 1>That's a different game. I have those filtered out on
<v Speaker 1>my Steam so it was.
<v Speaker 3>Like, I play that game every day. I was like,
<v Speaker 3>I clearly misrode something there.
<v Speaker 4>I like to other people's podcasts and be like, I
<v Speaker 4>play that every day with such enthusiasm.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Marcus, you checked out another game, right.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. The last game I'll mention that I wrote a
<v Speaker 2>big pre before on the site is called Spine. I
<v Speaker 2>was really excited for this. I saw a trailer for
<v Speaker 2>it months ago at like an indie showcase. It is
<v Speaker 2>a third person action game heavily modeled after the Batman
<v Speaker 2>Arkham series, primarily combat, like taking that free flow combat
<v Speaker 2>from those games and just sort of pretty much replicating
<v Speaker 2>it and adding your own sort of John wickspin to it,
<v Speaker 2>because that's the other big influence of like the Gun
<v Speaker 2>Fou and those movies. So the game feels like what
<v Speaker 2>if Batman just had a gun? What if he broke
<v Speaker 2>his no kill rule? Where he plays this young girl
<v Speaker 2>in this sort of like Cyberpunky, sort of like Neon
<v Speaker 2>like Acid Wash World, and you're just going from room
<v Speaker 2>to room. I don't even know what the story is about.
<v Speaker 2>This is one of those games where, like, like the
<v Speaker 2>demo didn't give me like much narrative context and it's
<v Speaker 2>also like I don't think I care because I just
<v Speaker 2>want to go into a room and just mess a
<v Speaker 2>bunch of guys up. And the game so far it's
<v Speaker 2>pretty good at that. Like it was like a rough
<v Speaker 2>alpha build, so it was it was you know, janky
<v Speaker 2>in some spots, but it it did nail like the
<v Speaker 2>core of what made those Batman games fun of just
<v Speaker 2>like you go in there and you're immediately just bouncing
<v Speaker 2>from guy to guy. The animations and the attacks felt
<v Speaker 2>like smooth and tight in the way that I like
<v Speaker 2>from Batman. You're you know, you're doing cool cinematic finishers
<v Speaker 2>where you're just like flipping over a guy and like
<v Speaker 2>doing some intricate like arm break thing and just taking
<v Speaker 2>him down, or you're doing a John Wick thing where
<v Speaker 2>you do like a hand to hand combo and then
<v Speaker 2>just shoot him in ahead at the end.
<v Speaker 1>It looks ridiculous. I'm looking at it on Steam and yeah,
<v Speaker 1>it looks really stylish. I think they've nailed the the
<v Speaker 1>art direction of it for sure.
<v Speaker 2>I think it's all what were gonna say.
<v Speaker 4>I also played this one and sat down and talked
<v Speaker 4>with one of the leads on it, and I specifically
<v Speaker 4>was like, your game one turns into gifts very well,
<v Speaker 4>and you know, I was asking, like, is that something
<v Speaker 4>y'all do intentionally, and it's like not, not really, but
<v Speaker 4>like it does help to think of it in terms of,
<v Speaker 4>like can you get because that's the vibe of Gunfu
<v Speaker 4>is like if you watch John Wick, like a lot
<v Speaker 4>of those like sick moves and kill shots like do
<v Speaker 4>gif out very well. And so if you can do
<v Speaker 4>the same thing with your game, you're probably nailing the vibe.
<v Speaker 4>And that's so much of that game was that that
<v Speaker 4>demo was about just nailing the moment to moment of like,
<v Speaker 4>oh that was sick. Oh that was sick, Like you're
<v Speaker 4>playing incredible five ten second gifts one after the other
<v Speaker 4>after the other. It's it's the reels of Gunfu. You know.
<v Speaker 4>It really like works that way.
<v Speaker 2>And it also like like it shows well, but I
<v Speaker 2>think it'sporting to note that it feels good to play
<v Speaker 2>so far, Like I said, it's a little rough because
<v Speaker 2>it's an alpha, but like for to feel as good
<v Speaker 2>as it is it did, then that makes me hopeful
<v Speaker 2>what the final product would be. Like the really only
<v Speaker 2>kind of like complain I had was that the camera
<v Speaker 2>was a little looser than I would like, so it
<v Speaker 2>was a little flayley, especially because you're jumping around and
<v Speaker 2>changing like your your camera angles changing constant because you're
<v Speaker 2>jumping from guy to guy. But that can be tightened
<v Speaker 2>up hopefully. But yeah, it's cool, Like, I miss Arkham combat,
<v Speaker 2>so it's good to see it sort of live on
<v Speaker 2>in this game.
<v Speaker 3>That's one of those things that like, I feel like
<v Speaker 3>you often see games be like and our combat is
<v Speaker 3>inspired by counter based Arkham Combat, and it like the
<v Speaker 3>fact that you're saying it feels like that. After playing it,
<v Speaker 3>I'm like, okay, so they actually did it this time.
<v Speaker 3>A lot of people try to do it. I'm always
<v Speaker 3>excited when you're like, and these people succeeded. It's not
<v Speaker 3>just like a buzzword.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.
<v Speaker 2>The only other skin big game that I can remember
<v Speaker 2>that got close was the Middle Earth games.
<v Speaker 4>Yes, that combat was very.
<v Speaker 2>Much like Yeah, we played Batman, but if Batman had
<v Speaker 2>a sword instead of a gun.
<v Speaker 3>There was theoretically like they could have asked them though,
<v Speaker 3>right because it was like Warner Brothers and DC's of
<v Speaker 3>Warner Brothers property.
<v Speaker 2>You know, they're probably across the hall from each other.
<v Speaker 1>Maybe, Yeah, well cool, Eric, I know you wanted to
<v Speaker 1>talk about Jamon.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah. Somehow, Digimon was my game of the show. Another
<v Speaker 4>game that you have listed was my very close number two,
<v Speaker 4>but Digimon Story Time Stranger. I'd heard for years that
<v Speaker 4>Cyber Sleuth and games like that were worth playing, and
<v Speaker 4>I always kind of blew it off because I was like,
<v Speaker 4>I look, okay, don't don't hate me in the comments
<v Speaker 4>for this. But I feel like there were there were
<v Speaker 4>kids who grew up with Pokemon, and then there were
<v Speaker 4>kids who grew up with Digimon, and the Digitimon kids
<v Speaker 4>always felt like they were like kind of second fiddle,
<v Speaker 4>Like they were like, oh, our stuff is just as
<v Speaker 4>good as Pokemon, and so they always had to like
<v Speaker 4>wave the banner for it a little extra hard in
<v Speaker 4>the process. And so I always heard, oh, Digimon's really good,
<v Speaker 4>you should play that, and I was like, ah, but
<v Speaker 4>is it really good or did you just grow up
<v Speaker 4>with Digimon. Turns out they were right. I was wrong.
<v Speaker 4>I made a kulpa, like y'all got this game is
<v Speaker 4>really really cool. It's a it's very much a creature collecting,
<v Speaker 4>creature evolving RPG in the vein of a Pokemon or
<v Speaker 4>even a Shiit make on me tense, but feels kind
<v Speaker 4>of a like a between point between the two where
<v Speaker 4>you get these really cool evolutions, the digivolutions that are
<v Speaker 4>based on different stats and things that you've done throughout
<v Speaker 4>raising your digitmon, and you can always kind of like
<v Speaker 4>branch them out, see where they go, build a build
<v Speaker 4>around them, maybe bring them back if you don't like
<v Speaker 4>the digit evolution that you went down and going a
<v Speaker 4>different path, you can build up moves and kind of
<v Speaker 4>create these digitimon and also lean into type weaknesses in
<v Speaker 4>a way that I kind of wish Pokemon would, because
<v Speaker 4>there's like two different typing things. There's like one main
<v Speaker 4>one that's kind of like the main triangle of virus
<v Speaker 4>I think it's virus data vaccine, and then there's the
<v Speaker 4>elemental wheels as well, so you can get like double
<v Speaker 4>type advantage on some creatures and also have that done
<v Speaker 4>to you. It looks gorgeous, It plays gorgeously like it's
<v Speaker 4>got a really cool vibe of this digital world that's
<v Speaker 4>built out of this like sheet metal jungle of Central
<v Speaker 4>Town where all these digitmon are just kind of hanging
<v Speaker 4>out and doing stuff. So you walk up to this
<v Speaker 4>guy and he's a giant dinosaur inside a tank that's
<v Speaker 4>like half dinosaur half tank, and you're like, what's up
<v Speaker 4>and he's like, Hi, I'm tank Mon. I'm vibing over
<v Speaker 4>here being a tank and I'm like that rules man,
<v Speaker 4>that's awesome. And I go talk to Pumpkin Mon and
<v Speaker 4>he's like, oh, I wish the train was running again.
<v Speaker 4>But the train is called Loco Mon because the train
<v Speaker 4>is also a digimon and like that it feels a
<v Speaker 4>little bit livelier, because I feel like the more recent
<v Speaker 4>Pokemons don't always do that of have the Pokemon feel
<v Speaker 4>like they're in the world. They're just kind of there
<v Speaker 4>for you to collect and battle with, and maybe certain
<v Speaker 4>story Pokemon get to like have a more prominent role,
<v Speaker 4>but here, like it's digimon all the way down. Yeah,
<v Speaker 4>dimon able to talk helps with yes, Yeah, yeah, they
<v Speaker 4>can speak.
<v Speaker 2>They can be characters like actual characters.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah. I was. I was incredibly impressed by it. Like
<v Speaker 4>I literally went home and opened up but the Switchy
<v Speaker 4>Shop and was like, do they have cyber sleuth on here?
<v Speaker 4>Because I've I've clearly missed out on what has been
<v Speaker 4>like a pretty solid RPG series and and I think
<v Speaker 4>that's the sign of you have built something really interesting
<v Speaker 4>and really fascinating. If even I a Digiti heathen Em,
<v Speaker 4>I'm like, oh this is this is legit, like this
<v Speaker 4>is something to pay attention to. Ethen Mon, it's my
<v Speaker 4>favorite heathen Man. You don't want to know what heathen
<v Speaker 4>Man does?
<v Speaker 2>Oh you don't want to s.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that makes me excited. I was a Pokemon kid,
<v Speaker 1>but I I also liked Digimon, gobm On and were
<v Speaker 1>my favorites.
<v Speaker 2>Is that the wolf is Guru room On Matt's Digimon.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah cool than I was saying war.
<v Speaker 4>Graymond at all Warramon, is he the the wolf, but
<v Speaker 4>he's like a robot.
<v Speaker 2>To No, he's the well, that's that's metal. Guru room
<v Speaker 2>On was the little dinosaur. Yes, that was his mega.
<v Speaker 4>Just see war Raymond. But I do think, yeah, he's
<v Speaker 4>like the chartisard of Digitmon is my own pretty much.
<v Speaker 4>I was a monster rancher kid, which makes me like
<v Speaker 4>hip that's the third lay. Yeah, that's the iceberg of
<v Speaker 4>monster catching is like monster Ranchers at the bottom.
<v Speaker 2>It really is.
<v Speaker 4>I talk about Suazo and Mochi and Wolf. I think
<v Speaker 4>Wolf was just its name. I don't remember.
<v Speaker 2>You're playing the CD soundtrack on your place.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I'm putting Santana's Supernatural from my dad's CD collection
<v Speaker 4>into my PS one to try and get like a
<v Speaker 4>monster from it. Like that. We got to bring that back.
<v Speaker 4>You should ring that back.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that rules. I played a couple of things I
<v Speaker 1>want to chat about. Luminous Arise.
<v Speaker 4>Was this the game that was my close? Number two?
<v Speaker 4>That was real close?
<v Speaker 2>I really wanted to play this.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah it. You know, I have to admit I've never
<v Speaker 1>played a Luminous game before. I've always wanted to.
<v Speaker 2>And but did you own a PSP?
<v Speaker 1>I did? Yeah?
<v Speaker 4>Oh that's even more Yeah right, yeah, i'd.
<v Speaker 1>I was playing NTV versus at X on my BSP. Okay,
<v Speaker 1>I was that kid. I was playing like Madden, you know.
<v Speaker 1>Uh but but yeah, so I've been playing luminessa Rise
<v Speaker 1>a bit. They actually took me to the back room
<v Speaker 1>and I got to play a few more levels than
<v Speaker 1>were public, and so I played this really cool level
<v Speaker 1>that was It was hyper pop, so think I think
<v Speaker 1>like hyper Potions style music or yeah, I mean hyper pop.
<v Speaker 1>But and the visuals were all sorts of like pixel
<v Speaker 1>and voxels. It was really bright and beautiful and the
<v Speaker 1>stages I mean just like Tetris effect, luminess, a rise.
<v Speaker 1>The big draw I would say, are are of course
<v Speaker 1>the music, the soundtrack. People want to hear that that's
<v Speaker 1>a huge part of the game. But but yeah, these
<v Speaker 1>these these immersive screens that you're gonna be especially if
<v Speaker 1>you playing VR, right, that's like the big draw. And
<v Speaker 1>so far I've been really impressed with them, just the
<v Speaker 1>the visual effects in every level that I played. There
<v Speaker 1>was one level where I there was like a astronaut
<v Speaker 1>stuck inside a TV station and when you would when
<v Speaker 1>you would make a cube, and you know, and and
<v Speaker 1>and what what what is it called? And yeah, is
<v Speaker 1>that just what it was? Okay, Well, when you clear,
<v Speaker 1>when you clear, there's like all these each stage of
<v Speaker 1>these like really neat animations that play, and of course,
<v Speaker 1>just like touch to Effect at ramps up in intensity
<v Speaker 1>and it's it's really good. It felt really good. The
<v Speaker 1>soundtrack was great. Unfortunately, the headphones aren't working for some reason,
<v Speaker 1>so I was just listening through TV speakers amidst summer
<v Speaker 1>game fest madness, and so didn't get a great great
<v Speaker 1>I can't tell you about the mix or really disparate
<v Speaker 1>elements of it, but I I kind of feel the
<v Speaker 1>energy and I out here occasional melodies, and I really
<v Speaker 1>enjoyed it so far. And I think that's coming out
<v Speaker 1>later this year. I'm not sure if they announced a
<v Speaker 1>specific release date or not yet. I could be wrong.
<v Speaker 1>Not yet, not yet, but I can't wait to play that.
<v Speaker 1>I think it's gonna be great.
<v Speaker 4>I was gonna ask did you feel like the mix
<v Speaker 4>was a little bit different from Tetris Effect, Because when
<v Speaker 4>I went in, like playing Tetris Effect, I felt like
<v Speaker 4>a lot of it was very chill, vibes zy, and
<v Speaker 4>then some of the levels would be really amped up,
<v Speaker 4>but it was it was more of a almost relaxing vibe,
<v Speaker 4>whereas Lumines felt like the inverse where everything was kind
<v Speaker 4>of do good do good do do do do do do,
<v Speaker 4>and then like some of them were kind of like
<v Speaker 4>a little bit more spacey and viby, but it felt
<v Speaker 4>like there was still a mix of them, but the
<v Speaker 4>ratio was kind of inverted from where it was with
<v Speaker 4>Tetris Effect.
<v Speaker 1>Definitely, yeah, that's that's a good I think you're right
<v Speaker 1>on that ratio. It definitely leans more towards you know,
<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't say it got up to like, actually there
<v Speaker 1>was one. I felt like it was kind of break beaty,
<v Speaker 1>but yeah, higher higher bpms. Uh, you know, more drums
<v Speaker 1>present on tracks, and like more like sign wave basses
<v Speaker 1>and and that sort of thing that you would kind
<v Speaker 1>of expect from from more you know, techno and and
<v Speaker 1>and ed M and that sort of stuff. And there
<v Speaker 1>were a couple yeah, slower ones and those are harder
<v Speaker 1>to hear.
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, you know, in all, uh, I believe it's
<v Speaker 2>all original music, because the first two Luminus games were
<v Speaker 2>heavily like licensed songs.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I believe they are bringing back the I think
<v Speaker 1>it's the same composer as Touch just Effect, Touch just
<v Speaker 1>Effect band. I'm doing a quick search high Delic.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah yeah, that sounds right.
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to credit the wrong person, so I'm
<v Speaker 1>trying to look. But I knew it was like a
<v Speaker 1>notable band that told me, and it was one that
<v Speaker 1>had worked on a previous project with them, So I'm
<v Speaker 1>guessing it's Hidelic.
<v Speaker 4>But but yeah, yeah, yeah, it's the same person as
<v Speaker 4>Yeah Cool.
<v Speaker 1>I really enjoyed that. And then separately, Crimson Desert continues
<v Speaker 1>to be a game that fascinates me. That game wants
<v Speaker 1>to be every game possible, and part of me thinks
<v Speaker 1>they might be able to pull it off. I will
<v Speaker 1>say the I would say Crimson Desert has some of
<v Speaker 1>the most complex controls that I've played in a while.
<v Speaker 1>There is just there are probably thirty different button combinations
<v Speaker 1>that you have to eventually learn for like, because it's
<v Speaker 1>a character action game, so it's not a Soul's like,
<v Speaker 1>so you are doing combos which require you know, various
<v Speaker 1>input configurations. There's also you have multiple Okay, let me
<v Speaker 1>tell you about the cool thing about this game, all right,
<v Speaker 1>There there is a lot of movement options for you
<v Speaker 1>that require So number one, you kind of like wheel
<v Speaker 1>this like magic force your character. I don't know what
<v Speaker 1>it's called in the game, it's just magic, right, And
<v Speaker 1>so you can do a lot of things with that.
<v Speaker 1>You can sort of shoot up a a grappling hook
<v Speaker 1>and or I think it's like a grappling arrow or something,
<v Speaker 1>and you can aim at this. So you click in
<v Speaker 1>the left sticks and you kind of go into this
<v Speaker 1>slowed down mode where there's like a big color overlay
<v Speaker 1>that comes over and you know, it's almost like think
<v Speaker 1>like I don't know.
<v Speaker 4>Like.
<v Speaker 1>Hero detect Division, Yeah, that kind of thing. And when
<v Speaker 1>you slow it down, you can aim up at the
<v Speaker 1>tops of trees and you can shoot it up and
<v Speaker 1>you can grapple up on top of the tree tops,
<v Speaker 1>and then you can turn into a crow and like
<v Speaker 1>sprout wings from from your back and glide around. And
<v Speaker 1>there's a couple of different you can kind of go
<v Speaker 1>quicker down, you can kind of take your time and
<v Speaker 1>glide down. There's also an ability that and sometimes you
<v Speaker 1>have to defeat certain bosses with this where you jump
<v Speaker 1>up in the air. You click I think they've just
<v Speaker 1>remapped it. You click right trigger, and your right hand
<v Speaker 1>shoots a palm thrust of magic on the ground and
<v Speaker 1>it shoots you up into the air. Then you have
<v Speaker 1>to click left trigger and then that is your left
<v Speaker 1>hand palm thrust and you can even do a third
<v Speaker 1>one to for another. You can do like three palm thrusts.
<v Speaker 4>So it's like Iron Man kind of where you're like
<v Speaker 4>doing the little palm thrust like thrusters.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and then you can turn into the crow again
<v Speaker 1>from that and glide on top of big enemies. There's
<v Speaker 1>one fight I had what I like fought a tank
<v Speaker 1>and instead of a tank like think not world, not
<v Speaker 1>a modern tank, thin thing like almost like a phalanx
<v Speaker 1>looking a phallax. God, this is not going well a
<v Speaker 1>very like think of like a massive like it almost
<v Speaker 1>looks like a hut on wheels. And the hut has
<v Speaker 1>a bunch of spikes all around it. Okay, and the
<v Speaker 1>entrance to the hut is on top. Okay.
<v Speaker 2>And it also.
<v Speaker 4>So it's like an r V with like a bunch
<v Speaker 4>of deer catchers.
<v Speaker 1>I just realized it's like a It's like a ridiculous
<v Speaker 1>bay blade is what it looks like. Imagine, yeslades are ridiculous.
<v Speaker 1>It's spinning and shooting flames out. Yeah, it's spinning and
<v Speaker 1>shooting flames out the sides. Sure, while there are like
<v Speaker 1>twenty dudes attacking you. So in order to defeat this tank,
<v Speaker 1>you have to jump up. You have to jump arm thrust,
<v Speaker 1>arm thrust, arm thrust, crow glide on top of the tank.
<v Speaker 1>There's also another t shooting at you. I think this
<v Speaker 1>game needs some balance changes, but is that top level
<v Speaker 1>what it needs?
<v Speaker 4>Because I got a few other ideas to put up.
<v Speaker 1>No, ok okay, okay. And so once you're on top
<v Speaker 1>of the tank, you jump into the arm thrust thing
<v Speaker 1>again and you blow the tank up. It's it's they
<v Speaker 1>there's also okay, there's some weird stuff in this game.
<v Speaker 1>There's also a boss fight at the end of this
<v Speaker 1>demo that I fought against, where throughout the boss fight
<v Speaker 1>he runs into and slams his his sword into these
<v Speaker 1>big stone columns and they'll fall down in the boss fight,
<v Speaker 1>and you have to essentially dodge perry that sort of
<v Speaker 1>thing to fight him, as well as like get your
<v Speaker 1>combos off. And this particular boss doesn't take damage really
<v Speaker 1>from normal combat, so you have to build up his
<v Speaker 1>stagger meter. Then you stagger him and he goes down
<v Speaker 1>on one knee and that's your window. You have to
<v Speaker 1>And they said, they told me like this would be
<v Speaker 1>more natural in the game because you would have had
<v Speaker 1>like the muscle memory by the time you got to
<v Speaker 1>this fight. But you have to click in the two
<v Speaker 1>sticks to go into your magic mode. You have to
<v Speaker 1>aim down at a column, a stone column, and then
<v Speaker 1>you press I think X and it summons like this
<v Speaker 1>this like whirlwind cyclone underneath of the stone pillar. You
<v Speaker 1>have to tap repeatedly to like your character's like raising
<v Speaker 1>levitating this stone pillar, this all while there's a character
<v Speaker 1>that's like downed next to you and he's about to
<v Speaker 1>get up and start swinging again.
<v Speaker 4>So you have you have like roughly how many seconds
<v Speaker 4>to I would say like ten, oh, okay, that's my
<v Speaker 4>eight seconds.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, okay, it's it's longer. It's it's not long
<v Speaker 1>enough to where like you can like relax and do it,
<v Speaker 1>but it's not ridiculous, okay. So essentially, you levitate this
<v Speaker 1>thing up, you pick it up this giant piece in
<v Speaker 1>the environment, and you slam it down on the boss
<v Speaker 1>and do like a third of his health bar and
<v Speaker 1>it feels awesome. And there are other puzzles and other
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, you could just do this mechanic in the world.
<v Speaker 1>It's not like a special boss mechanic. There are just
<v Speaker 1>things that lie on the ground in the world. Like
<v Speaker 1>there's one there's like a big invasion that I played
<v Speaker 1>where it's hundreds of enemies on screen at once, like
<v Speaker 1>ridiculous amounts of enemies on screen, and you're running through
<v Speaker 1>this battlefield and you have to like increase the morality
<v Speaker 1>your troops, so you have to like raise a flag
<v Speaker 1>and to do that you do like the the same
<v Speaker 1>mechanic and you put the flag into the into its
<v Speaker 1>stand and like helps helps the invasion. Right, this game
<v Speaker 1>is like very very all over the place, but in
<v Speaker 1>a way that I kind of love it. I don't know,
<v Speaker 1>this game could be like incredible, Like I don't want to.
<v Speaker 2>I don't want to.
<v Speaker 1>I know that as hyperbole. I genuinely believe if they
<v Speaker 1>can pull off the best parts of this game and
<v Speaker 1>polish up the stuff that that is still a little
<v Speaker 1>rough around the edges in terms of like the control
<v Speaker 1>scheme and there are some some lighting stuff that was
<v Speaker 1>throwing me off. But like it is a very dense
<v Speaker 1>and very impressive attempt at a open world, you know,
<v Speaker 1>RPG action sort of game, and I am I will
<v Speaker 1>be their day one. I want to see if they
<v Speaker 1>can do it. It is really really interesting.
<v Speaker 4>One question, Yeah, did you get a sense in all
<v Speaker 4>of this and everything you've done in all of these
<v Speaker 4>adventures of who your dude is? Because Cliff cool.
<v Speaker 2>Like that, that's his name's Cliff, this Omega level mutant.
<v Speaker 1>He also looks like he looks like Clive from Okay.
<v Speaker 3>They just wanted to name him Clive.
<v Speaker 1>I want to say Scottish, Scottish or Irish.
<v Speaker 2>His name used to be before they changed it. For
<v Speaker 2>a long time, his name was McDuff, which I was
<v Speaker 2>disappointed they changed.
<v Speaker 4>It, like Shakespearean McDuff, Like, uh no, McDuff, McDuff.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, fear, but mac mcduff's a character in Macbeth, right, yeah, yeah,
<v Speaker 3>I don't know.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but yeah, McDuff because he was again they were
<v Speaker 2>leading into like the scottishness. So yeah, his name until
<v Speaker 2>like relatively recently they changed his name. I guess the cliff,
<v Speaker 2>which I was like, McDuff is better. I just like
<v Speaker 2>saying McDuff.
<v Speaker 4>I am into the idea of the insane video game
<v Speaker 4>retelling of Macbeth where he can turn into a crow
<v Speaker 4>and punch the bay Blade from atop his iron Man's thruster.
<v Speaker 2>Some tornadoes and whatever.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah. Yeah, that's my Macbeth, you know. Yeah.
<v Speaker 3>Macbeth is the name of the character of the play
<v Speaker 3>and the ridiculous bay Blade tank that shoots fire out
<v Speaker 3>the side. Yeah, don't get it confused, you will.
<v Speaker 1>This is the second time that I've played this game now,
<v Speaker 1>so I've played it for probably to two and a
<v Speaker 1>half hours at this point, and I've done various scenarios
<v Speaker 1>that are all just like vignettes. They didn't even want
<v Speaker 1>me to call this one a demo. They're like, this
<v Speaker 1>is this is just like a a slice. I was like, okay,
<v Speaker 1>not what a demo is. But I think they were trying.
<v Speaker 3>To find gaming experience.
<v Speaker 1>I think that what they're trying to say is like there,
<v Speaker 1>it's not meant to be a holistic view of the game.
<v Speaker 1>I think is what they were trying to tell.
<v Speaker 2>Me, which is what most demos are.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, exactly. But I don't know, but yeah, it's
<v Speaker 1>this game wants to be a lot. This is the
<v Speaker 1>one that people have been watching. It's from the developer
<v Speaker 1>behind Black Desert Online, which is kind of known for
<v Speaker 1>its beautiful art direction and combat to cool combat. Yeah. Uh,
<v Speaker 1>this game, I would say, is like not it's like
<v Speaker 1>middle Fantasy. I don't know, like you're gonna be running
<v Speaker 1>up against I believe there are like orcs and that
<v Speaker 1>kind of thing as, but there's also like weird like
<v Speaker 1>siege engines like this tank was.
<v Speaker 2>It's got a it's got a bit of the Game
<v Speaker 2>of Thrones kind of gritty fancy to it. Yeah, pretty much,
<v Speaker 2>I think, Yeah, I think maybe, yeah, sixteen is probably
<v Speaker 2>going back to that.
<v Speaker 4>That's a good comparison, you.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, maybe a little less, like I don't know about
<v Speaker 1>the fighting, you know, Giant Gods, Yes, not to that level.
<v Speaker 1>The other kind of a step down from that, right,
<v Speaker 1>And that's kind of like a vibe for for the
<v Speaker 1>setting of this game. But yeah, it's there's also like
<v Speaker 1>a lot of I remember back at Packs East, I
<v Speaker 1>played a build where it was a non combat boss
<v Speaker 1>fight that was essentially a big shot of the Colossus puzzle.
<v Speaker 1>They had to like climb on top of this big
<v Speaker 1>stone crab and slowly take out its weak points, and
<v Speaker 1>then at the end you had to use your your
<v Speaker 1>palm thrusts to then grapple to get high enough and
<v Speaker 1>then shoot your grappling hook midair, swing around him and
<v Speaker 1>flip up over top of him and like kill him
<v Speaker 1>from above. I told him, I was like, this is
<v Speaker 1>too much. Is very cool. You got to figure out,
<v Speaker 1>you know, how to make this more more achievable because
<v Speaker 1>it was like pr was even like struggling to like
<v Speaker 1>show me how this is supposed to work because it
<v Speaker 1>was so convoluted. So that's what I mean, Like this
<v Speaker 1>game is doing a lot. If it can overcome the
<v Speaker 1>complexity of its character controls, I think it could be
<v Speaker 1>really really special And I'm I'm I can't wait to
<v Speaker 1>play this. Yeah that's Crimson Desert. I didn't mean to
<v Speaker 1>spend so much time on his game, but I I
<v Speaker 1>have really enjoyed it. Yeah, or it's one to watch, Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>it's one to watch.
<v Speaker 2>Am I am I wrong for?
<v Speaker 4>Like?
<v Speaker 2>I hope the game is good? But am I wrong for?
<v Speaker 2>Just want to get to come out so we could
<v Speaker 2>talk about do k A V again everything video game?
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, do kV wasn't at SGF right, Like we didn't
<v Speaker 4>see a trailer for it, or.
<v Speaker 2>It hasn't been and it hasn't been shown since it
<v Speaker 2>would shown the first time.
<v Speaker 4>V M I A.
<v Speaker 1>I've heard it's still like actively being worked on.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I I've assumed that once they're just pushing Crimson
<v Speaker 2>Desert at the door first, like that's the focus, which
<v Speaker 2>makes sense, you know.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So yeah, that's Crimson Desert. A very curious game.
<v Speaker 1>Really excited to see.
<v Speaker 4>More of that.
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, that's kind of our our our Summer Game
<v Speaker 1>Fest wrap up. Didn't mean for it to take that long,
<v Speaker 1>but hey, a lot of cool games. Uh, let's get
<v Speaker 1>into our Nintendo switch To review discussion.
<v Speaker 4>Eric.
<v Speaker 1>I want to go to you. How are you feeling
<v Speaker 1>about switch To? I know you and I have been
<v Speaker 1>playing Mario Kart World together. Has that been the extent
<v Speaker 1>of your time with the device? Where you're at?
<v Speaker 4>I've been dipping in and out. It's been an interesting
<v Speaker 4>time because I didn't get my switch To until I
<v Speaker 4>got back from SGF, and I'd played some Mario Kart
<v Speaker 4>while I was out there on other people's systems, and
<v Speaker 4>I definitely got a sense right away of yeah, this
<v Speaker 4>is a solid Mario Kart. I would know if I
<v Speaker 4>would rank it as the top Mario Kart. But I
<v Speaker 4>think it's got some cool ideas. I really like knockout races.
<v Speaker 4>I think that was probably like the golden ticket idea
<v Speaker 4>with this game is it just works super well and
<v Speaker 4>maximizing the fact that you can bring so many players
<v Speaker 4>in and do those knockout races and they go by
<v Speaker 4>it just the right amount of time and everybody has
<v Speaker 4>a good time and then kind of gets into the
<v Speaker 4>next one. I think it flows super well and seeing
<v Speaker 4>that workout. I mean, we've been putting up room codes
<v Speaker 4>and playing knockout races with a bunch of people who
<v Speaker 4>all join in. It's a great time. I really like
<v Speaker 4>that all so kind of been dabbling in either switch
<v Speaker 4>to specific games, so I played a little bit of
<v Speaker 4>I actually went back to Pokemon Scarlet to kind of
<v Speaker 4>tinker with that DLC because I never finished the DLC
<v Speaker 4>because it ran terribly. It just barely functioned. Yeah, and
<v Speaker 4>so now playing it in a really good frame rate
<v Speaker 4>and looking pretty solid, I was like, oh, maybe I
<v Speaker 4>do actually want to finish the DLC of these games.
<v Speaker 4>I booted up New Pokemon Snap because I was like,
<v Speaker 4>no one else is going to care about whether New
<v Speaker 4>Pokemon Snap works well on the Switch too, but I
<v Speaker 4>do because I really like Pokemon Snap. That game runs
<v Speaker 4>super well on the switch too.
<v Speaker 2>They announce any formal upgrades for that.
<v Speaker 4>I just booted it up to try to I've been
<v Speaker 4>doing that with a lot of old games that I
<v Speaker 4>thought kind of ran not great on the Switch. One
<v Speaker 4>was just see like does the hardware get it just
<v Speaker 4>working a little bit better, And it turns out with
<v Speaker 4>Pokemon Snap, it just there's barely load times. It just
<v Speaker 4>moves faster, there's not a lot stuttering or anything like
<v Speaker 4>that just feels a lot smoother overall and really like
<v Speaker 4>makes that experience shine a little bit more. And so
<v Speaker 4>I really like that. I've been playing clubhouse games because
<v Speaker 4>I'm a sicko like that. There's no like noticeable upgrades
<v Speaker 4>for clubhouse games except for the fact that you can
<v Speaker 4>game chat with it. But that that's all I want.
<v Speaker 4>I just want to sit there and keep get in
<v Speaker 4>my medals. Exactly. You're you're talking to a Mancala maaster.
<v Speaker 4>I just got my impossible medal the other night. You know,
<v Speaker 4>I'm just saying, you know, don't don't test me when
<v Speaker 4>it comes to Mancala.
<v Speaker 1>I used to play Mancala a bunch at the after
<v Speaker 1>school place I went to. I ran those streets.
<v Speaker 4>Okay, well, we're gonna have to show downline enough to
<v Speaker 4>see what's what. I think. The weird thing with the switch, too,
<v Speaker 4>is I just keep going to it, and I'm like,
<v Speaker 4>it's not I don't think it's a bad console. It
<v Speaker 4>just really feels like I got an upgraded switch, and
<v Speaker 4>I don't. I don't think it's going to start to
<v Speaker 4>feel like switched to instill until stuff like Donkey Kong
<v Speaker 4>Bonanza and stuff like that starts to roll out things
<v Speaker 4>that feel very distinctly this is a new console making
<v Speaker 4>use of new hardware. I don't think Mario Kart World is.
<v Speaker 4>It's definitely impressive, it's definitely like amazing to look at visually,
<v Speaker 4>It's just not that substantial, sink my teeth into game
<v Speaker 4>that I was hoping for with the switch Too, and
<v Speaker 4>I think that's what it's missing right now. Delta Rune
<v Speaker 4>has been the one that I've been going back to
<v Speaker 4>and playing a lot on there, and that's something I
<v Speaker 4>could have played on my PC if I didn't have
<v Speaker 4>it on switch To. I just wanted to try the
<v Speaker 4>switch to version. So I don't know, it's a weird
<v Speaker 4>console launch. It's not a bad console launch. I've certainly
<v Speaker 4>lived through worse, but it's a strange one, I think
<v Speaker 4>because it just doesn't have a breath of the wild.
<v Speaker 4>I even remarked today looking at the Donkey Kong direct
<v Speaker 4>that I was like, that feels like the switch to game.
<v Speaker 4>That feels like the big waving the banner. We have
<v Speaker 4>a new console game, and so it's a little weird
<v Speaker 4>that the release is staggered the way it is.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that would have been really cool to have it launch,
<v Speaker 2>especially because it's so close. But yeah, I got my
<v Speaker 2>switch to finally, guys, when that I can wave around recklessly,
<v Speaker 2>I don't have to.
<v Speaker 4>Use balances for that anymore.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.
<v Speaker 2>But so I've probably played the least because I got
<v Speaker 2>my less than a week ago and I've only played
<v Speaker 2>like it ends short Burst, played to Mario Kart. I've
<v Speaker 2>only completed one Grand Peak pre Cup. It's it's fine,
<v Speaker 2>it's fun, but like Mario cart eight was such a
<v Speaker 2>high bar that it was like, at least the tracks
<v Speaker 2>that I played so far, like haven't really held a
<v Speaker 2>candle to like the tracks in those games. But it's like, oh, yeah,
<v Speaker 2>it's fine, it's Mario Kars. These new power ups are
<v Speaker 2>pretty cool.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think the thing on that note, Marcus, because
<v Speaker 1>of the open world nature of this game, they don't
<v Speaker 1>really have many. I mean, I guess they add in
<v Speaker 1>sort of like construction traffic cones to block off certain
<v Speaker 1>certain areas during races, But I feel like Mario cart
<v Speaker 1>eight had the advantage. These are levels right versus like
<v Speaker 1>an interconnected world, and I think, yeah, that makes them
<v Speaker 1>less moment to moment the.
<v Speaker 3>Actually think like they I think the courses are good.
<v Speaker 3>We're just in a weird spot where like, uh, because
<v Speaker 3>of the way the Grand Prixs are structured, where like
<v Speaker 3>the third lap is actually, oh, you only get one
<v Speaker 3>lap on the court if even played Mario Kart World.
<v Speaker 3>The way Grand Prix work now is you do three
<v Speaker 3>laps on the first track and then the second race
<v Speaker 3>is the path from that first track to the second track,
<v Speaker 3>and then you do one lap on that track and
<v Speaker 3>then the race ends, which.
<v Speaker 2>Still off by the way, because I was like, I
<v Speaker 2>know you had to drive to the next one was like, oh,
<v Speaker 2>are we in a are we in a race? I
<v Speaker 2>see the little lap counter and it's like, oh should
<v Speaker 2>I care right now?
<v Speaker 3>Yeah? And it's I think the levels are well designed,
<v Speaker 3>but it's hard to get used to them because you
<v Speaker 3>don't even get to spend that much time on them.
<v Speaker 3>And that My main issue is I just wish that
<v Speaker 3>they had included like a classic and pre mode, or
<v Speaker 3>like you can't play Grand prixse between multiple switches, which
<v Speaker 3>is weird to me, like you have to do races. Yeah,
<v Speaker 3>at least I have not found a way too.
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah. I think it's just because the tracks of
<v Speaker 2>the interconnected I feel like they just have less of
<v Speaker 2>an individual identity than previous Mariocard games, because you know,
<v Speaker 2>when they're just like individual tracks, they can do whatever
<v Speaker 2>they want thematically with them oras here since they kind
<v Speaker 2>of have to blend together a little bit just because
<v Speaker 2>they all take place in one living world. So going
<v Speaker 2>from some tracks of tracks, you're like, oh, I mean,
<v Speaker 2>I do see a difference, but it's not like, WHOA,
<v Speaker 2>this is completely different than that last ter. I went
<v Speaker 2>from moving meadows to like that weird piano like techno
<v Speaker 2>track from like what was it whatever? It was called
<v Speaker 2>an eight, and you're like, it's missing that a little bit,
<v Speaker 2>at least one seen so far.
<v Speaker 4>I don't know if the other cups or not, but
<v Speaker 4>I think DK Spaceport was the one that really yeah
<v Speaker 4>realized that was you have a really great track in
<v Speaker 4>DK Spaceport where you're kind of winding up the Donkey
<v Speaker 4>Kong arcade game, but you have to spend like a
<v Speaker 4>lap or two getting to the track, and that that's
<v Speaker 4>always a weird part to me. I've heard tell that
<v Speaker 4>there's somehow a way to play just the circuits if
<v Speaker 4>you want to just do that. But I was talking
<v Speaker 4>to this person who was trying to talk me through it,
<v Speaker 4>and it was through different menus and options in the
<v Speaker 4>multiplayer and stuff like that, and I was like, why
<v Speaker 4>is that not just play like you said, play classic,
<v Speaker 4>play original, you know, whatever you want to call it.
<v Speaker 4>And I like the idea. I even like the idea
<v Speaker 4>of what they're doing for Knockout Race again, and I
<v Speaker 4>think it works really well in that context. But for
<v Speaker 4>somebody who wants a classic Mario Kart experience coming off
<v Speaker 4>of eight Deluxe, it's going to feel a little strange
<v Speaker 4>at times.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I will say I am really enjoying. I know,
<v Speaker 1>like I know, there are there are people, I mean,
<v Speaker 1>we're talking about it right now, like some of you
<v Speaker 1>don't like that, but there is a certain novelty to it.
<v Speaker 1>It is unlike any other Mario Kart game in that way,
<v Speaker 1>and so I am appreciating it for that. I also
<v Speaker 1>think that the Grand Prixs are it's kind of I
<v Speaker 1>don't know, maybe I'm looking at a glass half full,
<v Speaker 1>but if you complete that Grand Prix and then you
<v Speaker 1>select a different one that's connected that, and maybe it
<v Speaker 1>doesn't work as well. Maybe it's maybe I'm thinking Knockout Mode,
<v Speaker 1>but essentially your next the next race you're gonna do,
<v Speaker 1>like the next Grand Prix you do, you can have
<v Speaker 1>it so that, oh, I'm getting two laps on the
<v Speaker 1>map I actually wanted to end on last time, right.
<v Speaker 3>I think that's a that's a versus race setting?
<v Speaker 1>Is that a versus race ocause you can't you can't.
<v Speaker 3>Pick where you start when you do a Grand Prix.
<v Speaker 3>It's just like, ah, shoot, you're right.
<v Speaker 1>I've been doing a lot of I've been doing a
<v Speaker 1>lot more of the versus.
<v Speaker 4>The verses is.
<v Speaker 3>Fun, where like you're all in the open world and
<v Speaker 3>you get to vote on the next track that you
<v Speaker 3>go to from the track that you yes did, so
<v Speaker 3>you can change a bunch together. That is cool. I
<v Speaker 3>like all the stuff they added. It's more that they
<v Speaker 3>don't have the old stuff. But even then I'm still
<v Speaker 3>enjoying it.
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, I still have the mess with it. I
<v Speaker 2>haven't done any of the versus stuff. I haven't done
<v Speaker 2>Knockout Tour yet. Like I've literally just done like Grand
<v Speaker 2>Prix and the free Rome stuff, which the free room
<v Speaker 2>is like fine, but it's not you know in terms
<v Speaker 2>of like and you know this has been set to
<v Speaker 2>death by other people, like the density of activities hasn't
<v Speaker 2>really like Blown me Away, especially compared to its closest influence,
<v Speaker 2>which is Forts of Horizon. So it's like, you know,
<v Speaker 2>it's fun to drive around. I still want to look
<v Speaker 2>around for secrets, but it's it is something where it's
<v Speaker 2>like I need to put a podcast song. It's gonna
<v Speaker 2>be a lot of driving around through nothing until I
<v Speaker 2>see a pee block or something. I guess, yeah, yeah,
<v Speaker 2>but yeah, I want to play Knockout Tour. That's the
<v Speaker 2>one I really need to. I don't want to get
<v Speaker 2>in there since that's like the big new thing.
<v Speaker 1>It's great. That's probably my favorite way to play right now.
<v Speaker 3>And there are like they're not like Grand Prix, but
<v Speaker 3>there are If you go into the Knockout Tour single
<v Speaker 3>player Marcus, there are like set things you can beat
<v Speaker 3>and like the way that you rank. It's like you
<v Speaker 3>got three stars on this Grand Prix. You can do
<v Speaker 3>that with the Knockout Tours too, So it's like there
<v Speaker 3>is like single player stuff there, which is cool.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I would say for for old games that I
<v Speaker 2>fired up to see how to better I because I
<v Speaker 2>am an Expansion Pass subscriber. I downloaded the switch to
<v Speaker 2>version of Tears of the Kingdom because that was the
<v Speaker 2>game I most wanted to see, like how much better
<v Speaker 2>it was? And I played it for like an hour
<v Speaker 2>and I don't. It was this weird emotion of being
<v Speaker 2>simultaneously incredibly impressed on how much better that game runs
<v Speaker 2>and being like upset that I can't play this for
<v Speaker 2>the first time with this, like it.
<v Speaker 1>Plays so much I never so I'm excited to go
<v Speaker 1>back and do that now.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And I'm excited for people to get to come
<v Speaker 2>to Breath of the Wild Answers in the Kingdom for
<v Speaker 2>the first time on switch to, because it's like going
<v Speaker 2>even for like I was just like, man, it's great
<v Speaker 2>that this exists, but I'm I'm I feel angry and I shouldn't.
<v Speaker 2>Those are two of my favorite games of all time.
<v Speaker 2>I still very much love my time with those games.
<v Speaker 2>But seeing like, oh, this is how this is, how
<v Speaker 2>much better it could have been?
<v Speaker 4>Huh. The person who gets to play Breadth of the
<v Speaker 4>Wild and Tiers of the Kingdom for the first time
<v Speaker 4>on switch to, that's like euphouric. That is like I
<v Speaker 4>cannot imagine what that's got to be. You have to
<v Speaker 4>have been living under a rock. But that's like you
<v Speaker 4>win in that scenario.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, when you're a kid who's finally old enough to
<v Speaker 1>do it, and then it's like that becomes their Ockerina
<v Speaker 1>of Time on N sixty four Formative Experience.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah yeah, yeah, did.
<v Speaker 2>You guys because I fired up the game cube stuff too.
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if you guys are Expansion Past people.
<v Speaker 1>And I am iah.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Like the very first game I fired up was
<v Speaker 2>not win Waker, but Soule Caliber.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because it's so I love Soul Caliber two. It's
<v Speaker 2>who now, yeah exactly. You know what's funny about Soul
<v Speaker 2>Caliber two, Like you know it still plays like a
<v Speaker 2>dream loves Soul Caliber two, But the switch to loads
<v Speaker 2>so fast that the like fight load screens are way quick. See,
<v Speaker 2>you only get like a second to do the like
<v Speaker 2>noises with the fighters, like the grunts when you hit
<v Speaker 2>a button, so like you have to really be on
<v Speaker 2>it to be like when they just stare at each
<v Speaker 2>other like straight faced and only their mouths moved. I
<v Speaker 2>was like, oh crap, I missed it. I have to
<v Speaker 2>just mash the button immediately. So that's like the downside
<v Speaker 2>to the new load speed.
<v Speaker 1>Does it feel good? Otherwise though, Oh yeah.
<v Speaker 2>It plays like Soilk Caliber two, which is I.
<v Speaker 1>Think I wasn't there a remaster or a re release
<v Speaker 1>a h version. Yeah, yeah, that's the last time I played.
<v Speaker 2>That was the last time I played, too. I don't
<v Speaker 2>think I've played the proper like, I can't remember last
<v Speaker 2>time I played the GameCube version, specifically because I never
<v Speaker 2>owned it. I played at a friend's house. I never
<v Speaker 2>had a GameCube, so my version was the PS two
<v Speaker 2>version of head Hey Hachi. So yeah, going back to
<v Speaker 2>this one, I think I don't think I played the
<v Speaker 2>gamecub versions. It's high school now thinking about it. But yeah,
<v Speaker 2>Solkap two is still one of the best fighting games
<v Speaker 2>ever made.
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, you know, I've been I've been kind of
<v Speaker 1>I'm playing a lot of Mario Kart and then I've
<v Speaker 1>I've re downloaded uh Spolunky and Spolunkie two, and just
<v Speaker 1>because I love those games, and I was like, yeah,
<v Speaker 1>great games, phenomenal games. I downloaded uh Splatoon three. Haven't
<v Speaker 1>been able to check out the new the new update
<v Speaker 1>downloaded I've got. I've downloaded a ton. I downloaded Fall guys,
<v Speaker 1>because I thought it would be an incredible way to
<v Speaker 1>play that game on the go. I don't remember. I
<v Speaker 1>don't know if it has Steam Deck support. What are
<v Speaker 1>you laughing at?
<v Speaker 4>Eric? You reminded me. I also downloaded Splatoon three and
<v Speaker 4>I got into a match, and I'm pretty sure I
<v Speaker 4>played against like six year old seven guy. There was
<v Speaker 4>no mercy on that there was. I I rolled in
<v Speaker 4>there with my arrow spray and I was like, like
<v Speaker 4>they were kind of walking around and just kind of
<v Speaker 4>shooting and painting, and I like zipping in and spraining
<v Speaker 4>it all down, like doing all the tech and stuff.
<v Speaker 4>And I was like, I feel bad. This is this
<v Speaker 4>is like the classic story of kids on Christmas Day
<v Speaker 4>getting destroyed.
<v Speaker 2>But do you think they'll patch in mouse controls for
<v Speaker 2>that gangs? That seems like of any game to get
<v Speaker 2>it because, like you know, like they always say the
<v Speaker 2>hardcore players use the motion controls, which I still think
<v Speaker 2>is insane, Like I cannot play Splazoon.
<v Speaker 4>That way, but contro flick Yeah, yeah.
<v Speaker 2>But mouse control seems like the way you even the
<v Speaker 2>playing field, just because you know, that's just the way
<v Speaker 2>a lot of people like to play shooters.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, are you are the lobbies split up as matchmaking
<v Speaker 1>split up by platform or switch to. People just in
<v Speaker 1>there with switch one.
<v Speaker 2>That's it's probably the same. It's just to switch one
<v Speaker 2>game like they haven't if there's like no switch to
<v Speaker 2>edition of it. So yeah, it's just backwards compatible, you know.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but oh I got to test out if you
<v Speaker 1>could do mouse because then you can.
<v Speaker 4>Just we should go dominate the lobbies later. Yeah, yeah,
<v Speaker 4>these kids got to learn about how to play Platoon.
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, before that weird spinoff comes out, I will
<v Speaker 2>now that you we mentioned the mouse controls. I will
<v Speaker 2>say that was the one thing that did make the
<v Speaker 2>switch feel new, because I was I'd forgotten about the
<v Speaker 2>mouse controls until I was running through the controller pairing
<v Speaker 2>and then it's like, hey, you know you can do this.
<v Speaker 2>So I did like the little tutorial and I was like,
<v Speaker 2>oh right, So like that's like the one thing that
<v Speaker 2>makes me go, that's right, this is a switch to.
<v Speaker 2>I could not do this on my old switch, and
<v Speaker 2>just I've only used it to like navigate the menu,
<v Speaker 2>but it was it was novel and weird to be like,
<v Speaker 2>ye can't believe I'm using a mouse cursor on a
<v Speaker 2>Nintendo console, Like this is pretty this is pretty neat.
<v Speaker 1>I have yet to actually use it once since.
<v Speaker 3>Oh right, now you're switch in front of you.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, use your mouse.
<v Speaker 3>Through my just my captures. When I show people, I'm like,
<v Speaker 3>look and I can scrub so easily now it was
<v Speaker 3>always annoying or the right stick.
<v Speaker 1>Okay, what I'm gonna do. We're gonna do some journalism
<v Speaker 1>right here.
<v Speaker 4>Okay, late journalism, late journalism.
<v Speaker 1>We're going to see if you can actually if you
<v Speaker 1>can actually use mouse in spultan real quick.
<v Speaker 3>Oh. I think I think there's a zero percent chance.
<v Speaker 3>I think they would have, but.
<v Speaker 2>I could also see Nintendo because they're.
<v Speaker 4>They like the shoe on, like you're actually putting the
<v Speaker 4>shoe on.
<v Speaker 2>I think the mouse controls are better when you put that.
<v Speaker 2>You can do it without the shoe, but it feels better.
<v Speaker 4>No, I do that shoeless. Yeah yeah, raw.
<v Speaker 2>Raw dog in the mouse.
<v Speaker 1>Okay, I'm going to Sulton's. Wow, this feels so weird.
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, I'm with Charles, like, it's probably not gonna work.
<v Speaker 2>But also it's it's not unlike Nintendo to quietly push
<v Speaker 2>out a little update like that to where they chut
<v Speaker 2>to figure it out on your own.
<v Speaker 3>Probably later it'll turn out that like they announced it
<v Speaker 3>but on the Nintendo Today app and nobody just saw it.
<v Speaker 3>We never never got picked up anywhere.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I still haven't downloaded that app. By the way, I.
<v Speaker 3>Probably probably probably today it's Donkey Kong.
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeh, that's probably I am.
<v Speaker 1>I think I'm about to do it. Let's see. Oh yeah,
<v Speaker 1>can you skip this this damn intro?
<v Speaker 4>You can speed through it?
<v Speaker 1>I think, God, that is the most annoying you do.
<v Speaker 2>I still haven't played Splatoon three really well. I love
<v Speaker 2>the first two games, and we did. We didn't get
<v Speaker 2>a code for the third one, and I was like, well,
<v Speaker 2>I don't want to pay full price for it now,
<v Speaker 2>and you know, nothing ever goes on so Nintendo. So
<v Speaker 2>I just haven't gotten around to, like, I guess I'll
<v Speaker 2>pay sixty dollars for this right now.
<v Speaker 4>I always paid the price. Splatoon is, like, low key
<v Speaker 4>one of my favorite Nintendo properties. I think it's one
<v Speaker 4>of the best things they've made in a long time.
<v Speaker 4>It's very very good.
<v Speaker 2>Honestly. The announcement of the spinoff one reminded me, like,
<v Speaker 2>I still haven't played Splatoon three. I should do that
<v Speaker 2>because I like those first two games a lot.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I still have absolutely.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, I need to go back and play the
<v Speaker 4>rogue mode that they added that was like the tower
<v Speaker 4>Side Order. I think it was one I like expansion
<v Speaker 4>that was so yeah.
<v Speaker 2>So they're they're they're good on their expansion game. You
<v Speaker 2>guys excited for that new one that threw on a subject.
<v Speaker 2>Did you guys see that trailer?
<v Speaker 4>What is it?
<v Speaker 3>I did not see. I'm not a I've tried every
<v Speaker 3>Splatoon and none of them have clicked for me.
<v Speaker 2>But it's like a it's like a single player thing, right,
<v Speaker 2>eric I It seemed like, surprisingly, I have not watched
<v Speaker 2>this trailer yet because it just happened to appear one
<v Speaker 2>day when I was not paying attention to the internet
<v Speaker 2>and has been memory hold Yeah, I forgot the name
<v Speaker 2>of it. It's like Splatook Raiders.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, but I saw it and thought it was an
<v Speaker 4>extraction shooter, which I was concerned about.
<v Speaker 1>But I was sitting here thinking I was doing mouse
<v Speaker 1>controls and I was just doing motion controls on but
<v Speaker 1>with would.
<v Speaker 4>Say that's how.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I was like the hell, yeah, hold on, waggling
<v Speaker 2>your I'm going to the isn't getting done? I know,
<v Speaker 2>right handheld handheld mode most controls.
<v Speaker 1>Oh there's supposed to be off. I'm so confused. Also,
<v Speaker 1>nothing in here about mouse.
<v Speaker 2>I was also going to say the other thing that
<v Speaker 2>makes this feel new was since I I never upgraded
<v Speaker 2>my switch, Like I had a Launch model switch all
<v Speaker 2>the way through its life cycle, never got the light,
<v Speaker 2>never got the old D. So for me, having a bigger,
<v Speaker 2>nicer screen is like whoa Like this is this is
<v Speaker 2>like my I'm late to the party and like how
<v Speaker 2>much of a luxury that feels of like, oh, these
<v Speaker 2>games look so much better now. I can't believe the
<v Speaker 2>screen is this big. And I also don't have a
<v Speaker 2>Steam deck so big handheld screens for me, it's still
<v Speaker 2>like I'm still fresh to that, and I'm like, man,
<v Speaker 2>this is what people I've been talking about.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, it's not even old, but you could have
<v Speaker 3>fooled me. Honestly, it is.
<v Speaker 2>It is a better looks though, isn't it.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah yeah yeah yeah.
<v Speaker 1>Well they've got like HDR working on the screen, don't they,
<v Speaker 1>I think.
<v Speaker 2>So yeah yeah its ahgr yeah yeah then it's like
<v Speaker 2>four K sixty on the when you play doct and stuff.
<v Speaker 1>It's honestly for content capture, video capture, I'm I'm so happy.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah you Yeah, And like I was capturing fourteen forty
<v Speaker 1>P the other day. The PS five and the Xbox
<v Speaker 1>Series X wouldn't even let me do that when they
<v Speaker 1>came out, like they would only only do ten eighty
<v Speaker 1>or four K. And having the switch just work with
<v Speaker 1>with with that kind of thing makes my job a
<v Speaker 1>lot easier.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it also just feels better, Like just the hand,
<v Speaker 2>it just feels sturdier and nicer, like I don't know
<v Speaker 2>if the plastic, but there's something about it where it's
<v Speaker 2>like I like holding this more than I did the
<v Speaker 2>original switch.
<v Speaker 4>Have y'all seen the tech with the the kickstand that
<v Speaker 4>people have been doing.
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, but I've been using the kicks Dan a.
<v Speaker 4>Lot, so I've seen people I'm holding my switch to
<v Speaker 4>for a visual help here prop people will kick out
<v Speaker 4>the kickstand and then kind of use it to like
<v Speaker 4>rest their fingers so they have like a pop socket.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like my phone has like a thing.
<v Speaker 4>I haven't.
<v Speaker 2>I haven't used my kickstand yet.
<v Speaker 4>I want to say. It was like Jeff grub or
<v Speaker 4>somebody was posting about this the other day and I
<v Speaker 4>was like, that looks stupid and then I picked it
<v Speaker 4>up and I was like, oh no, damn it.
<v Speaker 2>You were too quick to judge, too quick to judge,
<v Speaker 2>just like Digimon, the Jeff Invintage. Should we credit grub?
<v Speaker 4>Is this? The grub grip is that?
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I've got it right now, and I'm like, my
<v Speaker 1>pinkies are underneath of it.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, they you could do ring finger you can. He
<v Speaker 4>does feel kind of good.
<v Speaker 1>Pinky feels better.
<v Speaker 4>It depends on like what kind of triggers do you do?
<v Speaker 4>Do you do you like the do you double finger
<v Speaker 4>the triggers or do you like single figures on the game? Right? Yeah,
<v Speaker 4>software game, you probably want to double face.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, unless I'm like really trying to get this kind
<v Speaker 1>of something.
<v Speaker 4>This is such good audio content.
<v Speaker 2>We're describing everything, okay, Yeah, for audio listeners are just
<v Speaker 2>helping the pinkies under the little kickstand.
<v Speaker 1>Kickstands at about a forty five degree angle. H My
<v Speaker 1>pinky is resting underneath of it, and it feels comfortable.
<v Speaker 4>It does it surprisingly like, feels drastically better the.
<v Speaker 1>Side the sides of the kickstand are kind of sharp,
<v Speaker 1>so I don't know that might wear on.
<v Speaker 2>You, maybe not long term. You don't want to do it.
<v Speaker 1>I guess we're gonna see you gotta.
<v Speaker 4>Wear yea hoary or somebody is going to come up
<v Speaker 4>with like the the gamer grips for these, and that's
<v Speaker 4>that's what will happen.
<v Speaker 2>Just wear pinky gloves.
<v Speaker 1>Oh there you go. Yeah, racing, it's my racing gloves cover.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.
<v Speaker 1>Uh that actually that reminds me. Yanky sent over a
<v Speaker 1>couple of accessories for me to check out for the
<v Speaker 1>switch to They sent over a case they have like
<v Speaker 1>a grip system that I honestly wasn't loving. I've seen
<v Speaker 1>other people online really like it, but for me, I
<v Speaker 1>just I really like my I've got my top case.
<v Speaker 1>I really like slim case designs. And when you have
<v Speaker 1>the grip on it, it just like it was a
<v Speaker 1>big kind of like instead of having you know, you know,
<v Speaker 1>the satisfied grip on switch one where it's just like
<v Speaker 1>one big piece of plastic that you sit your switch
<v Speaker 1>in and you just pull it out when you don't
<v Speaker 1>want to, this one was more so you have to
<v Speaker 1>attach these disparate pieces and and it was just like
<v Speaker 1>it was a little too much for me. But what
<v Speaker 1>I really like is the screen protector from Ginki. They
<v Speaker 1>sent that over and it's one of the ones where
<v Speaker 1>it's kind of got a cage that comes with it,
<v Speaker 1>a three D cage. You line it up perfectly. It's
<v Speaker 1>got like the multiple it's like pull here, press here,
<v Speaker 1>and the easiest, probably the easiest screen protector installation I've
<v Speaker 1>had on a handheld device, And so I very much
<v Speaker 1>vouch for that case. Seems seems great. I've got a
<v Speaker 1>case already. Unfortunately, maybe I'll use it for for if
<v Speaker 1>Kyle gets one. A switch to And the one thing
<v Speaker 1>I really do like is they have the game organizer
<v Speaker 1>and it's a single switch to case, but it's got like,
<v Speaker 1>I think twelve or eighteen game slots in it. So
<v Speaker 1>if you're somebody who carries around a lot of games,
<v Speaker 1>that seems really cool.
<v Speaker 4>For those switch to physical cards.
<v Speaker 1>Hey, I am a get I get my switch to
<v Speaker 1>physical No.
<v Speaker 4>I'm saying they're all game key cards right now, right,
<v Speaker 4>that's like the whole Oh, the drama amongst the people.
<v Speaker 1>Oh shoot, I'm uninformed. I've been I haven't been informed
<v Speaker 1>on that.
<v Speaker 3>I missed that.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, formed to you of such things.
<v Speaker 1>I mean, yes, I'm sure we have informed people, but
<v Speaker 1>I'm a busy guy. You know I don't keep up
<v Speaker 1>with news like you. You you low lifes.
<v Speaker 4>Look, can I.
<v Speaker 2>Also say that I am counting down the days. As
<v Speaker 2>much as I love the switch to form factor, I
<v Speaker 2>cannot wait until I can get some Horry pads for
<v Speaker 2>this thing. Yeah, because I've been using Hory pads for
<v Speaker 2>my switch one for years now, like I have. I
<v Speaker 2>cannot tell you the last time I used my joy cons.
<v Speaker 2>They've just been in a drawer just because my hand.
<v Speaker 2>They're just too small. They're just like the little buttons
<v Speaker 2>they heard after a while, like the Hoary pads. If
<v Speaker 2>you've never seen them. It's like if you cut a
<v Speaker 2>three sixty controller in half like an Xbox control and
<v Speaker 2>just bolted them on the side, so it feels like
<v Speaker 2>you're holding an actual big boy controller. And I want
<v Speaker 2>those for switch to so bad, even though the joy
<v Speaker 2>Cons for the the switch to are bigger so they
<v Speaker 2>are easier, but it's I don't like that analog stick.
<v Speaker 4>It's too small to get round it, bro controller.
<v Speaker 2>I have two pro controllers, I mean when I'm playing handheld,
<v Speaker 2>you know, at.
<v Speaker 1>One at one point in time, and apologies to the
<v Speaker 1>company I don't remember the name, but there was a
<v Speaker 1>pro controller stand that would clip onto the back of
<v Speaker 1>your pro controller and it would have like the goose neck,
<v Speaker 1>so you're playing on your pro control. You're playing. It
<v Speaker 1>was awesome. I played so many games like Controller Fortnite.
<v Speaker 4>The unhinged one is if you get the goose neck,
<v Speaker 4>but you install it like in your bed so you
<v Speaker 4>can like lie, that's.
<v Speaker 1>What I've ad. I I okay, I am relatively new
<v Speaker 1>to goose neck in bed. Okay, this is not like
<v Speaker 1>a I'm not a kindle person. I'm not.
<v Speaker 3>Got to define goose neck in bed real quick because
<v Speaker 3>I don't. I don't really know what you're talking about.
<v Speaker 3>And it's getting worse the longer I go without contact.
<v Speaker 4>Okay, it's not.
<v Speaker 1>It is a goose neck mount meaning okay, there is
<v Speaker 1>a desk mount. Think about it like a disk mount,
<v Speaker 1>right that you would like tighten on your desk and the.
<v Speaker 3>Clam like a microph.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, something like that. It's plastic light and you, yeah,
<v Speaker 1>you tighten it onto the surface. And then there's a
<v Speaker 1>long flexible tube that is like three feet two feet long,
<v Speaker 1>three feet long, and at the end of the tube
<v Speaker 1>is a mount for your tablet or your swich lip,
<v Speaker 1>and you remove the joy cons from your switch and
<v Speaker 1>you dock the tablet in that mount. Then you you
<v Speaker 1>twist the goose neck because it's it's strong enough or
<v Speaker 1>it's gonna hold where you place it, but it is flexible,
<v Speaker 1>and so yeah, you you twist it to be how
<v Speaker 1>you want it to be. And then you lay in
<v Speaker 1>bed looking up at your switch, and you got your
<v Speaker 1>two joy counts in your hand.
<v Speaker 4>Now, now do you keep the joy cons like at
<v Speaker 4>the ready or do you like.
<v Speaker 1>Just go like I pull the covers up over my
<v Speaker 1>body and I am like pencil like like hands on
<v Speaker 1>my sides, resting, but I'm playing the game.
<v Speaker 4>It is incredible peaceful when he's goose neck.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean that is the nice thing about the
<v Speaker 2>joy cons is that you can like lay down arms
<v Speaker 2>your side, but like normally the TV is just like
<v Speaker 2>in front of you normally. Yeah, so this is like
<v Speaker 2>next level. I guess, uh, it's amazing.
<v Speaker 1>I love the goose neck in bed, and I just
<v Speaker 1>I don't I don't have like a switch to goose neck.
<v Speaker 1>I just have one for the iPad and I it
<v Speaker 1>actually doesn't fit like it properly should, so I turn
<v Speaker 1>it on its side and then there's enough room I
<v Speaker 1>guess horizontally that it'll still it'll still fit the switch too,
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, I highly recommend. It's like twenty dollars and
<v Speaker 1>you can do it with iPad if you want to
<v Speaker 1>play like Magic the Gathering in bed or watch a
<v Speaker 1>show if you don't have like a big I don't
<v Speaker 1>really have a nice TV in my room. Like I'm
<v Speaker 1>not really a big TV at night person in bed,
<v Speaker 1>but like sometimes I'm like sick and I want to
<v Speaker 1>watch you know, ever somebody feed fill and I'm gonna
<v Speaker 1>you know, I got my mouth or now Super Mario
<v Speaker 1>Kart World. I like how you're like, I'm not really
<v Speaker 1>a big like TV in bed type of person, but
<v Speaker 1>you will install a gooseneck hugging just above your face. Okay,
<v Speaker 1>it's not even install. You turn a knob and it tightens.
<v Speaker 1>It's not like I've got like of me mount do
<v Speaker 1>the wall mount that I've got a secure.
<v Speaker 4>Also, like, like no amount of like security or clamping
<v Speaker 4>will ever stop me from thinking about the fact that
<v Speaker 4>you will have to explain the world's funniest concussion to
<v Speaker 4>somebody if that thing ever, like it's a little bit loose.
<v Speaker 1>I mean I have dropped my switch on my face
<v Speaker 1>and before, so this.
<v Speaker 2>Is everyone probably has at least once.
<v Speaker 1>I have dropped it multiple times on my face, on
<v Speaker 1>your face because you're holding it up and I get tired.
<v Speaker 1>You get tired in with.
<v Speaker 3>The switch in the air. Yes, I'm I'm like, I'm like, yeah,
<v Speaker 3>you know, I.
<v Speaker 4>Get elbows up, like stomach down, and i feel like
<v Speaker 4>I'm at a sleepover and I'm kicking my feet in
<v Speaker 4>the air like like I'm just kind of like to sleep.
<v Speaker 4>I roll over, like.
<v Speaker 2>I'm not laying completely flat, but I'm not elevated enough
<v Speaker 2>to where I'm like sittings I'm going to lay down.
<v Speaker 2>So you like, yeah, yeah, you're like you're You're It's enough.
<v Speaker 2>You're flat enough to where you got to kind of
<v Speaker 2>raise it above your face even if it's not like
<v Speaker 2>directly over your face, but you can still drop it.
<v Speaker 1>And I don't like pillows either. I have like a
<v Speaker 1>very thin pillow because I'm sick.
<v Speaker 2>I don't like the pillows.
<v Speaker 1>I don't like pretty much flat holding holding it directly
<v Speaker 1>about my face, and I started to get sleepy. My
<v Speaker 1>my grip loosens and I drop it on my face.
<v Speaker 3>I'm really glad there's never snare. I'm gonna have to
<v Speaker 3>like stay in your bedroom for some reason, flat ass pillows.
<v Speaker 2>For TV and.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, sounds like this just this weird press.
<v Speaker 3>I'm glad it works for you, but it's so just
<v Speaker 3>learning the specifics of your bedroom is very funny to me.
<v Speaker 4>It's so so tailored to you. Yeah, there's an animator
<v Speaker 4>at Pixar like listening to us describe this like.
<v Speaker 1>I made Wally to stop you from doing that. Okay,
<v Speaker 1>all right, I get it. What were we talking about, Dan.
<v Speaker 3>I do want to move on to someone others.
<v Speaker 4>We need to get off.
<v Speaker 3>We're hitting you're hitting the ninety minute mark.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we gotta go on to the next topic. Marcus.
<v Speaker 1>We're gonna go to you talk to me about the altars.
<v Speaker 1>This is the new Is this the eleven bit Studios game.
<v Speaker 2>Where you.
<v Speaker 1>Have copies of yourself? Right? What we're gonna say the makers.
<v Speaker 2>Of uh like sad Bashard games like frost Punk and
<v Speaker 2>this War of Mine. This is actually I never played
<v Speaker 2>any ether games. I didn't play either of those games,
<v Speaker 2>so this is my first eleven bit This is less
<v Speaker 2>sad so far, but still got some like some mess
<v Speaker 2>up stuff tod It's like a third person adventure game.
<v Speaker 2>You play as a guy named Jan Dolski who is
<v Speaker 2>part of an expedition crew sent into space to search
<v Speaker 2>for this rare resource called rapidium for this big corporation.
<v Speaker 2>But unfortunately, like a big accident happens and everyone on
<v Speaker 2>your crew like crash lands and dies except for you,
<v Speaker 2>So you're stuck kind of like in charge of the
<v Speaker 2>ship that requires an entire team to like run and
<v Speaker 2>make function. And also the planet you're on has this
<v Speaker 2>thing where like when the sun rises, because like the
<v Speaker 2>star that it's orbiting is incredibly close to the planet.
<v Speaker 2>So basically when the sun rises, you will die. You
<v Speaker 2>will just burn up and die. So you need every day,
<v Speaker 2>you kind of need to move, like it's a mobile ships.
<v Speaker 2>You need to kind of keep moving so you're not
<v Speaker 2>always in the path of it, and you can only
<v Speaker 2>stay out so long because when the sun doest start
<v Speaker 2>deris like the radiation from it starts to affect you.
<v Speaker 2>So the way that you kind of get around the
<v Speaker 2>fact that you're alone is that you use rapidium for
<v Speaker 2>this machine in the ship that creates duplicates of yourself
<v Speaker 2>that are basically alternate universe versions of yourself. Like the
<v Speaker 2>corporation has your entire like basically all of your memories
<v Speaker 2>stored in their database, so they can see every life
<v Speaker 2>decision that you've ever made, which in this case for
<v Speaker 2>the game, because he's only thirty five. It's kind of
<v Speaker 2>just displays it as like, here are the most pivotal
<v Speaker 2>moments of your life that have shaped who you are now.
<v Speaker 2>And the way you make a new version of you,
<v Speaker 2>which is called an altar, you look at every branch
<v Speaker 2>or potential branch, and you just go the other way
<v Speaker 2>of like, oh, like he grew up in an abusive
<v Speaker 2>household with an abusive father, and it was like a
<v Speaker 2>scenario where you know he is like the father is
<v Speaker 2>like being abusive to the mom and he could have
<v Speaker 2>stepped up to stop him, but he decided not to,
<v Speaker 2>Like this is prime yan like he was, so he
<v Speaker 2>just sort of like ran away from it. But what
<v Speaker 2>if he did step up and like stop is that
<v Speaker 2>and then that creates a version of self that branches
<v Speaker 2>and his life takes a different trajectory. If he had
<v Speaker 2>stood up to his father earlier than he did, so
<v Speaker 2>then you're creating someone like that or like, oh, he
<v Speaker 2>had the choice to go to medical school, but then
<v Speaker 2>he didn't because he wanted to keep this other like
<v Speaker 2>maybe more steady job. But then again you get an
<v Speaker 2>alter that did go to medical school, so he might
<v Speaker 2>be a scientist. So basically you're spawning these new versions
<v Speaker 2>of yourselves to gets like versions of Yon that are
<v Speaker 2>proficient in skills that he is not to help run
<v Speaker 2>this ship. So the ship is itself. It's a cool
<v Speaker 2>looking ship, like it just looks like a giant tire
<v Speaker 2>with a bunch of almost like shippings in the middle
<v Speaker 2>of it, which serve as like your rooms. Because it's
<v Speaker 2>like a very modular ship. You're like adding rooms. You're
<v Speaker 2>taking a wave rooms and you can expand the ship
<v Speaker 2>and wait matters like if you have too many rooms,
<v Speaker 2>then the ship requires more resources for it to run.
<v Speaker 2>So it's a lot of like the game as a whole,
<v Speaker 2>it's a lot of management, uh sim stuff. And then
<v Speaker 2>uh so you're a lot of the game from what
<v Speaker 2>I played so far, Like I'm still I'm only a
<v Speaker 2>few hours in and I only have three three altars
<v Speaker 2>so far, But it's a lot of like you're in
<v Speaker 2>an area, you go out to scavenge resources so that
<v Speaker 2>you can create new items that then make it easier
<v Speaker 2>to scavenge resources, and that becomes the loop if you've
<v Speaker 2>played enough sort of like survival games or any sort
<v Speaker 2>of resource sort of like loops. But then there's also
<v Speaker 2>a big like relationship component because you can you can
<v Speaker 2>talk to all your alters and they all have very
<v Speaker 2>distinct personality traits and their moods can change depending on
<v Speaker 2>how you interact with them, and so I'm over more
<v Speaker 2>more volatile than others depending on just where their lives
<v Speaker 2>have taken them, which you can see, like when you
<v Speaker 2>create a new one, you get like a branch that
<v Speaker 2>kind of you know, it's a good idea to sort
<v Speaker 2>of like read how their lives turned out, so you
<v Speaker 2>kind of get a sense of like what their personality
<v Speaker 2>might be and maybe some landmines to avoid stepping on
<v Speaker 2>when you're talking to them. Yeah, Like I have a
<v Speaker 2>minor version of me who like developed like he lost
<v Speaker 2>his arm in a mining accident and as a result,
<v Speaker 2>he developed the crippling addiction to painkillers and alcohol, and
<v Speaker 2>so there was a situation where he like when I
<v Speaker 2>brought him back, since he's in a new body. He
<v Speaker 2>has his arm again, so he's like, oh wow, this
<v Speaker 2>is great. But then he starts feeling like reverse phantom
<v Speaker 2>pain or he's like I still feel the pain. I
<v Speaker 2>don't know why. And he's like, listen, man, I think
<v Speaker 2>you know what I need right this And he's like what,
<v Speaker 2>And he's like asking you basically like can you give
<v Speaker 2>me some like some drugs, some painkillers and you can
<v Speaker 2>choose to sort of like indulghim or not. And I
<v Speaker 2>have chose and like, no, man, you don't need that
<v Speaker 2>and stuff. And now he's like really mad at me
<v Speaker 2>because he's like incisa, mom. Man, it's like, don't be
<v Speaker 2>don't be heartless. Like he's like he's like it really hurts,
<v Speaker 2>like I would not lie about this, and I just
<v Speaker 2>kind of help my foot to the ground like no,
<v Speaker 2>you're not getting any I'm sorry. You're just gonna have
<v Speaker 2>to just tough it out. You know, it'll pass. And
<v Speaker 2>now it's currently he's pissed at me, which I'm worried
<v Speaker 2>about because he's like the only miner guy and I
<v Speaker 2>kind of have him in charge of like the main
<v Speaker 2>like mining medals, so I don't I don't know if
<v Speaker 2>he's gonna want to do that anymore because they like
<v Speaker 2>one of the traits that the Ultra is gonna have
<v Speaker 2>is rebellion. So it's like, is he gonna like like
<v Speaker 2>just flip out of me at a certain point? You
<v Speaker 2>basically I think they can because it was like the
<v Speaker 2>fact that that's like a a legit like trait that
<v Speaker 2>they can have, is rebellion. It's like, yeah, I can
<v Speaker 2>if I pissed them off enough, will they try to,
<v Speaker 2>you know, overthrow me or take over the ship because
<v Speaker 2>I'm the de facto captain right, So like juggling Astuf
<v Speaker 2>has been fun, and it's also fun seeing them interact
<v Speaker 2>with each other because you'll walk around because you're walking
<v Speaker 2>around when you're not exploring the planet, you're just walking
<v Speaker 2>around your ship. It's like tears. You're taking elevators everywhere
<v Speaker 2>and you can zoom out to kind of see where
<v Speaker 2>everyone is at a certain time, and it gets almost
<v Speaker 2>like sims ish because they'll ask you for different things.
<v Speaker 2>Like the first guy I brought, like, he's like, hey,
<v Speaker 2>kind of tired of sleep on the floor. It'd be
<v Speaker 2>great if you make dormitories for us, And so I
<v Speaker 2>had to make a dormitory and now he's happier with me.
<v Speaker 1>It sounds a lot like like a fallout shelter where
<v Speaker 1>people have played mind Over Magic recently, Like that side
<v Speaker 1>view where you kind of see and I guess, like
<v Speaker 1>this horn is there, but when you're out exploring, it's
<v Speaker 1>like behind the shoulder, right.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like just third person behind the shoulder, just running around.
<v Speaker 1>Do you ever have that perspective in the ship?
<v Speaker 2>No?
<v Speaker 1>Okay, okay.
<v Speaker 4>One thing I'm curious about is it sounds like you
<v Speaker 4>kind of have these different permutations that could vary up
<v Speaker 4>between play styles or playthroughs. Do you get the sense
<v Speaker 4>that this is a run? Is this a run based
<v Speaker 4>game or are you kind of doing like a narrative
<v Speaker 4>playthrough of like one big thing rather than going on
<v Speaker 4>different excursions and being like, oh, well, I failed this
<v Speaker 4>one because they all rebelled against me. Mutiny, Okay, boot
<v Speaker 4>up a new run, go again. Or does it feel
<v Speaker 4>like you're supposed to kind of sit down and like
<v Speaker 4>play through a longer session of this.
<v Speaker 2>It's a narrative, like they have a straight story that
<v Speaker 2>they're telling. I have not reached any of what I
<v Speaker 2>would consider a failure state yet, just because I'm early,
<v Speaker 2>so like I'm We're cool with everyone save for the
<v Speaker 2>you know, drug addic guy. We'll see where we go
<v Speaker 2>with him. But yeah, like uh, you're just like it's
<v Speaker 2>broken up into like days and then they every day
<v Speaker 2>because you have to sleep, like you have to manage hunger.
<v Speaker 2>You have to manage the hunger of the team, so
<v Speaker 2>you have to make food. You have to sleep otherwise
<v Speaker 2>if you stay up too long, you get exhausted, and
<v Speaker 2>then that adversely affects your performance the next day or
<v Speaker 2>the current day, because if you stay up too long,
<v Speaker 2>then you produce things slower because you build everything. But
<v Speaker 2>if you're tired, then to build time takes longer. And
<v Speaker 2>the clock is always taking in this game because of
<v Speaker 2>like you know, at night, the radiation gets too high,
<v Speaker 2>so you got to get back to your ship. They'll
<v Speaker 2>give you like a counter. And the days go by
<v Speaker 2>very fast, and everything you do eats away at the clock.
<v Speaker 2>So every time you build something, it takes away at
<v Speaker 2>the clock. Every time you mind something, it takes away
<v Speaker 2>at the clock. Every time you like create an altar,
<v Speaker 2>it takes away at the clock. So you have to
<v Speaker 2>kind of plan your days in advance of like I
<v Speaker 2>cannot do everything each day I need to. I've learned
<v Speaker 2>that quickly, Like maybe this day is just resource gathering.
<v Speaker 2>Maybe this day is more hanging out, trying to socialize
<v Speaker 2>with my crew, make sure we're all on the same page.
<v Speaker 2>Maybe this day is just like building something, Like you
<v Speaker 2>kind of have to pick one or two goals each
<v Speaker 2>day and just focus on them instead of trying to
<v Speaker 2>do a little bit each day because you have a
<v Speaker 2>roadblocks that are in front of you, where like right now,
<v Speaker 2>one of the roadblocks in the area that I've gone
<v Speaker 2>to after the prologue is like, oh, there's some rocks
<v Speaker 2>here blocking your path. You need to build a thing
<v Speaker 2>that can get ready to these ros. That's going to
<v Speaker 2>take a while because I need to get resources, but
<v Speaker 2>I can't get those unless I build a mining thing
<v Speaker 2>that can siphon the resources faster. And I should probably
<v Speaker 2>make another altar that can man this machine on his
<v Speaker 2>own so I don't have to do its. That'll save time.
<v Speaker 2>And ideally you want an alter that's like good at
<v Speaker 2>that because that each have their own little bonuses, like
<v Speaker 2>the minor guys like hey, if he's doing it. When
<v Speaker 2>you mind things, you get more of it. And it's like, great,
<v Speaker 2>you're gonna be in charge of that. So yeah, it's
<v Speaker 2>it's like a blend of genres between like the management
<v Speaker 2>sense stuff and the like relationships sort of like I
<v Speaker 2>don't want to say visual novel, but it is a
<v Speaker 2>lot of like like choice driven dialogue stuff with your alters,
<v Speaker 2>and again, the things you say to them might make
<v Speaker 2>them better or worse performers for whatever task that you
<v Speaker 2>assigned to them, and then also trying to maybe put
<v Speaker 2>out fires if they have any inner conflict between them.
<v Speaker 2>And then there's also like the because in between them,
<v Speaker 2>you're checking in with the corporation who calls you periodically,
<v Speaker 2>and you're kind of like having to navigate those waters
<v Speaker 2>because you get the sense that they're maybe not entirely trustworthy,
<v Speaker 2>like they're saying, like you no, no, going to send a
<v Speaker 2>rescue mission for you. But while you're there, can you
<v Speaker 2>get some more of that rapidiom and stuff like we
<v Speaker 2>really like if you get that. So you're like you're
<v Speaker 2>dealing with a couple of people there and you're short
<v Speaker 2>at the siding, like how much do you want to
<v Speaker 2>tell them about what's going on versus like like you
<v Speaker 2>know what I mean, like do I do I lie
<v Speaker 2>to them about what's really happening? Do I even let
<v Speaker 2>them talk to the other altars? Do I tell the
<v Speaker 2>Altars that I'm talking to the corporation? And how much
<v Speaker 2>do I want to tell them about what's happening. So yeah,
<v Speaker 2>it's a lot of so far, like really interesting and
<v Speaker 2>really engaging, like like like conversation stuff. But like I said,
<v Speaker 2>I'm still very early, but I'm like into it now,
<v Speaker 2>like things are starting to click where it's like, Okay,
<v Speaker 2>I'm starting seeing what the loop of this game is
<v Speaker 2>going to be. But yeah, I want to play more.
<v Speaker 2>Like there's some really interesting story stuff, Like I think
<v Speaker 2>Yon himself is an interesting character and it's fun getting
<v Speaker 2>to know these other versions of him, and I want
<v Speaker 2>to see how many I can have and like again,
<v Speaker 2>like like it feels like a game that would have
<v Speaker 2>multiple ending just because of how many choices are involved.
<v Speaker 2>So I kind of want to see how many different
<v Speaker 2>roads at this that the plot can take. I guess.
<v Speaker 2>But it's really cool so far, Like it's it's very
<v Speaker 2>fascinating cool.
<v Speaker 1>I can't wait to play this. I have it downloaded,
<v Speaker 1>I just need some time to play it. So I've
<v Speaker 1>heard really good things from from some other folks on
<v Speaker 1>staff who are playing it, and also just externally seems
<v Speaker 1>like a really really it sparks my curiosity, so I
<v Speaker 1>want to check it out. But Eric, I want to
<v Speaker 1>talk to you about Magic the Gathering cross Final Fantasy.
<v Speaker 1>The new Final Fantasy set is out and I've only
<v Speaker 1>opened probably two packs.
<v Speaker 4>I have also only opened about two to four packs.
<v Speaker 4>I think it has been incredibly difficult to get actual
<v Speaker 4>physical product of this game, and it has This is
<v Speaker 4>coming from somebody who I used to collect Pokemon cards
<v Speaker 4>for a spell, and then I got to the point
<v Speaker 4>where every single release was so heavily in demand and
<v Speaker 4>immediately bought up and sold by scalpers, especially in the
<v Speaker 4>area where I live, that I just hit a point
<v Speaker 4>where I was like, you know what, I'm good. Maybe
<v Speaker 4>I'll play Pokemon TCG on my phone instead. Maybe I'll
<v Speaker 4>find some other way to like kind of hit that.
<v Speaker 4>And Magic Gathering has always kind of been in and
<v Speaker 4>out of my life. I love Duels of the Planes
<v Speaker 4>Walkers on Xbox three sixty That game as a classic
<v Speaker 4>and it got me really into the idea of magic.
<v Speaker 4>And then around the time that Bloomborough came out, which
<v Speaker 4>I think was about a year ago, which is a
<v Speaker 4>set that was very red Wall in nature. I really
<v Speaker 4>just thought the whole theming of that magic set was cool,
<v Speaker 4>and I downloaded Arena and played a bunch of it.
<v Speaker 4>I always said that there were a few silver bullets
<v Speaker 4>that could get me into anything, and Final Fantas is
<v Speaker 4>one of them. I've really loved Final Fantasy for most
<v Speaker 4>of my life. Fall Fantasy ten is probably my all
<v Speaker 4>time favorite game, and so when they rolled out all
<v Speaker 4>the magic stuff, I was like, oh boy, here we go,
<v Speaker 4>all right, And so far I've really spent most of
<v Speaker 4>my time playing online Magic Arena because that has just
<v Speaker 4>been the easier way to get involved with those cards
<v Speaker 4>and play them, Which is a little bit of a
<v Speaker 4>shame because from what I've talked with people who play
<v Speaker 4>a lot of magic, I've talked with people who don't
<v Speaker 4>play a lot of magic, and the consensus seems to
<v Speaker 4>be that number one, this is an incredible adaptation of
<v Speaker 4>Final Fantasy into the magic the gathering system. I think
<v Speaker 4>it would have been really easy for this to be
<v Speaker 4>kind of a cash in just say we're going to
<v Speaker 4>take some magic cards that we already had designed and
<v Speaker 4>slap Cloud and seph Roth on them and get some cash.
<v Speaker 4>And to be clear, there is a separate discussion to
<v Speaker 4>be had about how the MSRP of this entire set
<v Speaker 4>is slightly higher than normal because they know that they
<v Speaker 4>can ask for it, and that kind of sucks. But
<v Speaker 4>the actual design of the set is incredible. There's so
<v Speaker 4>much love and attention put into adapting the way that
<v Speaker 4>these characters act, the way they do things. I think
<v Speaker 4>one of my favorite ones is the way that they
<v Speaker 4>handle summons, which they created this creature type that is
<v Speaker 4>a saga creature where you play it and it kind
<v Speaker 4>of ramps up in power while it's out and then eventually,
<v Speaker 4>if it does not die in combat or because of
<v Speaker 4>whatever other cards that happen, it will eventually go away.
<v Speaker 4>So it acts like a summon. But then you can
<v Speaker 4>have characters like Ridia or you know who can kind
<v Speaker 4>of bring those summons back in for a second run.
<v Speaker 4>So that's just like UNA's overdrive in Final Fantasy ten,
<v Speaker 4>is she does her grand Summon and brings in these
<v Speaker 4>AONs to help her. When you have the espers, like
<v Speaker 4>in Final Fantasy six, you have Tera who literally when
<v Speaker 4>you meet certain requirements, you can flip Tara over and
<v Speaker 4>the backside of the card is now Esper Tarra, and
<v Speaker 4>you can play that version of that character for a
<v Speaker 4>certain amount of time using her trance mechanics, and then
<v Speaker 4>flip her back over to normal Tarra. And there's so
<v Speaker 4>many little cool touches like that that just make this
<v Speaker 4>set feel like you are playing Final Fantasy. And there's
<v Speaker 4>so many deep references to all the mainline games. They
<v Speaker 4>specifically stuck to the mainline numbered one through sixteen, and
<v Speaker 4>but really went deep on all those, especially with like
<v Speaker 4>File Fantasy too. Commune with Beavers is such a good
<v Speaker 4>card poll that's such a fun thing to pull out
<v Speaker 4>of that game and turn into a card. I really
<v Speaker 4>love it. I think the Commander decks show a lot
<v Speaker 4>of that flavor too. There are if you don't play Magic.
<v Speaker 4>The Gathering Commander is a separate game mode where four players.
<v Speaker 4>Usually you can do two or three, but commonly it's
<v Speaker 4>four players play with higher life counts, and then a
<v Speaker 4>deck of one hundred cards that are what people call
<v Speaker 4>singleton Belie leave the parlance, but basically one hundred cards.
<v Speaker 4>They're all differently named and it's kind of like it's
<v Speaker 4>a little bit like the Mario Party of Magic, the
<v Speaker 4>Gathering in some ways. You get these decks that are
<v Speaker 4>really complex and big, but you're also playing them much
<v Speaker 4>more like socially because it's four players, and you can
<v Speaker 4>be like, oh, I'm going to attack this person this turn,
<v Speaker 4>but the next turn they're like, hey, don't hit me.
<v Speaker 4>I'm in last place. You know, my life is lowest,
<v Speaker 4>so you go for the other person. You can do
<v Speaker 4>some of the table scheming and stuff like that, and
<v Speaker 4>that gets really interesting. And the commander decks, which Wizards
<v Speaker 4>puts out like special pre con preconstructed commander decks so
<v Speaker 4>you can just buy and play immediately. All come from
<v Speaker 4>what I would say probably the four most I'm going
<v Speaker 4>to get some heat for this, but the four most
<v Speaker 4>popular like final fantasies that are around it's six', ten,
<v Speaker 4>fourteen and, seven AND.
<v Speaker 2>I think that's.
<v Speaker 4>Accurate, yeah, yeah some people sometimes take onus with, ten
<v Speaker 4>BUT i think like ten is a big. Dog and
<v Speaker 4>Then i'm not just saying that because.
<v Speaker 1>Is one of the more as somebody who has a
<v Speaker 1>very surface level relationship with that. Series ten is up
<v Speaker 1>there for me in terms of like just as a,
<v Speaker 1>kid a lot of nostalgia for those.
<v Speaker 4>Characters, YEAH i know the Nine heads and the Eight
<v Speaker 4>heads are riding on me for this, one but LIKE i,
<v Speaker 4>promise and There's grade nine, representation there's great eight. Representation,
<v Speaker 4>like there's a lot of really cool stuff in the.
<v Speaker 4>Set if, any if Any Final fantasy got a little short,
<v Speaker 4>CHANGED i think it was. TWELVE i think twelve could
<v Speaker 4>have used just a little bit more. LOVE i Wish
<v Speaker 4>balthier And fran were separate cards and not combined into one.
<v Speaker 4>Card justice For, Yes, yes there's a lot of cool
<v Speaker 4>stuff in this set THAT i think works really really.
<v Speaker 4>Well and again they do great. THINGS i love The
<v Speaker 4>fang And vinil From Final fantasy thirteen have a mechanic
<v Speaker 4>where if you get them both on the field at
<v Speaker 4>the same, time you literally flip their cards over and
<v Speaker 4>then put them together to make one big card that Is.
<v Speaker 4>Ragnarok and it's such a cool visualization of the game.
<v Speaker 4>Mechanic so that all of that is. Great that's number,
<v Speaker 4>one that all works, Great but number two is this
<v Speaker 4>is also a really easy set to learn if you've
<v Speaker 4>never Played, magic and it's going to teach you a
<v Speaker 4>lot of the very core basics of, magic the idea
<v Speaker 4>that you kind of play two color, decks what those
<v Speaker 4>color identities, are what you want to do with those,
<v Speaker 4>decks the. Cards i've seen previous magic cards where you
<v Speaker 4>look at it and you're, like they Put ulysses By
<v Speaker 4>James choice on a freaking magic. Card, MAN i don't
<v Speaker 4>know what's happening. Here and this is a lot easier
<v Speaker 4>to just kind of pull a, card see what it,
<v Speaker 4>does and immediately start to, Understand, okay this is how
<v Speaker 4>it can all sync, together this is how it can
<v Speaker 4>all play. Together on, ARENA i play A landfall, deck
<v Speaker 4>which is basically just all centered around playing, lands and
<v Speaker 4>then any card that Has landfall on it gets a
<v Speaker 4>like bonus when you play a. Land and so it's
<v Speaker 4>all about doing these cool things where you're building up
<v Speaker 4>energy and ramping really. Fast while also SO i create
<v Speaker 4>giant swarms of chocobos and then throw them at my,
<v Speaker 4>enemies AND i think that's kind of the bummer in
<v Speaker 4>all this is that it's really hard to get physical right,
<v Speaker 4>now when this is probably the set THAT i would
<v Speaker 4>tell a lot of people if you've ever been curious
<v Speaker 4>about magically, gathering this is one to jump in. On
<v Speaker 4>this is one to check.
<v Speaker 1>Out this is up there with The lord of The
<v Speaker 1>rings set they, did, yeah a couple of. Years that's
<v Speaker 1>that's WHERE i got back.
<v Speaker 2>In, wait are you saying it's hard to get physical
<v Speaker 2>because people are like buying them, all so it's hard to.
<v Speaker 4>Find, yes, yeah, yeah the stock out really. High scalpers,
<v Speaker 4>are although that has been cooling pretty fast BECAUSE i
<v Speaker 4>Think wizards probably saw some of the demand coming in
<v Speaker 4>and tried to deal with. It so if you're trying
<v Speaker 4>to get like A vv card that's like super, Deluxe
<v Speaker 4>surge foil. Whatever if you're trying to get like the collector's,
<v Speaker 4>items that's that's something That wizards also does THAT i
<v Speaker 4>kind of wish other stuff would. Do is they, say
<v Speaker 4>like there are collectors, boosters which are way more, expensive hilariously. Expensive,
<v Speaker 4>yeah but they're specifically for people that want to chase
<v Speaker 4>really nice cards and collect, them sell, them see them
<v Speaker 4>as financial. INVESTMENTS i guess if you think that's a wise,
<v Speaker 4>CHOICE i would personally advise you not to do. That
<v Speaker 4>but your life is your, life and there's kind of
<v Speaker 4>play boosters for people who want to, play who want
<v Speaker 4>to just get the cards and put them down on
<v Speaker 4>the table and play some cool. Stuff there's as always
<v Speaker 4>a little bit of gray in. There BUT i think
<v Speaker 4>even if you can get a hand on the starter
<v Speaker 4>sets which HAVE i think It's cloud is red white
<v Speaker 4>and Sephy roth is black, blue two very clear understandable deck.
<v Speaker 4>Identities archetypes really playable right out of the. Box you're
<v Speaker 4>immediately going to have a good time with. Them and
<v Speaker 4>then The commander decks are very. PLAYABLE i would personally
<v Speaker 4>SAY i think the ten deck is the one to
<v Speaker 4>pick up if you haven't played, before or maybe the seven.
<v Speaker 4>Deck those are going to be easier to. Understand And
<v Speaker 4>pilot versus fourteen is a lot of complex spell slinging
<v Speaker 4>and stuff like, that but just a really it's a
<v Speaker 4>fun set and they did a great. Job there's great,
<v Speaker 4>art there's great work in all, this and even On
<v Speaker 4>arena there's there's kind of a lot of different events
<v Speaker 4>happening where you can do different drafts and even the
<v Speaker 4>jump in, mode WHICH i would highly recommend if you're
<v Speaker 4>Downloading arena to check it, out do the jump. In
<v Speaker 4>it'll let you pick two different color, identities mash them
<v Speaker 4>together into a, deck and play a bunch of matches with,
<v Speaker 4>that it's like a really good time to get in
<v Speaker 4>and just play, magic especially if you Like Final fantasy
<v Speaker 4>and you've been curious. It just you, know there's there's.
<v Speaker 4>Diasterisk there's always an, asterisk, right and that's kind of
<v Speaker 4>the bummer asterisk is that physical is kind of hard
<v Speaker 4>to get right, now depending on where you. Are it's
<v Speaker 4>also a little bit more expensive than it normally would.
<v Speaker 4>Be all the MSRPs have kind of been bumped up
<v Speaker 4>because it's high in. Demands, yeah, yeah.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah IT'S i found five packs at the store today
<v Speaker 1>AND i was, like And i've been looking everywhere AND
<v Speaker 1>i was, like, Oh i'm gonna grab those. IMMEDIATELY i
<v Speaker 1>just got the play. Boosters so these are not like
<v Speaker 1>the Super you, know you have a chance of getting
<v Speaker 1>the some of the like The chocobo's in, this BUT
<v Speaker 1>i don't think you have a chance of GETTING i
<v Speaker 1>think like the big chase card is the serialized Golden chocobo,
<v Speaker 1>Yea AND i think that's only for. Collectors but there's
<v Speaker 1>also another series of, like, uh colorful, chocobos AND i
<v Speaker 1>think you can pull those from from. These but, yeah
<v Speaker 1>THE I i have talked, To i've confirmed with multiple
<v Speaker 1>parties both ON pr and Like wizards repped, themselves like
<v Speaker 1>one of the the main designers of the, Set gavin
<v Speaker 1>AND i was, like you you are going to be reprinting, these,
<v Speaker 1>RIGHT i, mean and everyone has said, yes there will be,
<v Speaker 1>reprints SO i, think, like you, know if you're really
<v Speaker 1>serious about wanting to get, these definitely tried to get
<v Speaker 1>them if you. Can but if you, can't you know
<v Speaker 1>there is an you'll have another. Chance.
<v Speaker 4>Hopefully don't don't overpay out of. Fomo AND i said
<v Speaker 4>that About pokemon cards, before And i'll say it About
<v Speaker 4>magic cards. Now don't overpay out of. Fomo you, know
<v Speaker 4>these things come and, go and there's always like a
<v Speaker 4>hype around a lot of this stuff that people can
<v Speaker 4>get swept up. IN i highly recommend being a frugal
<v Speaker 4>card player first and, foremost and that's WHY i usually, say,
<v Speaker 4>like if you want to Play magic right now and
<v Speaker 4>you're kind of, unsure arena is free to play On.
<v Speaker 4>Steam it's really easy to jump in and just start
<v Speaker 4>playing matches, there and they have a lot of great
<v Speaker 4>modes for jumping in and playing that. Stuff so, yeah
<v Speaker 4>And Final fantasy is an arena.
<v Speaker 1>Again you can play with those.
<v Speaker 4>Cards that's the weird part is so the other big
<v Speaker 4>drama In magic right. Now and Granted i'm a newcomer to,
<v Speaker 4>this so IF i If i'm a little out of,
<v Speaker 4>pocket you, know people in the, comments please correct. Me
<v Speaker 4>But Spider man is kind of the other upcoming, one
<v Speaker 4>and there's been some drama about the fortnightification Of, magic
<v Speaker 4>The gathering and all that kind of, stuff a lot
<v Speaker 4>of brand, crossovers But Spider man is a weird situation
<v Speaker 4>Where matt Like wizards got THE ip For Final fantasy
<v Speaker 4>to do both the print and the digital, version so
<v Speaker 4>it's in print and it's In. Arena Spider man is
<v Speaker 4>only going to be in, print and they basically have
<v Speaker 4>to create a proxy set that is the same, cards
<v Speaker 4>but Not Spider man For arena because apparently there was
<v Speaker 4>some drama around getting the rights locked. Down you can
<v Speaker 4>go listen to Any magic podcast if you're. CHOOSING i
<v Speaker 4>was talking With Palomine chievenbod about this the other, day
<v Speaker 4>and it's just weird that they're going to have like
<v Speaker 4>two different. Sets So Final fantasy worked out very well
<v Speaker 4>and that they got to kind of do this and
<v Speaker 4>put the whole set out. There as. Is so you're
<v Speaker 4>going to play online with the same cards you would
<v Speaker 4>play in. Person, yes.
<v Speaker 1>So that is a good, Reminder, ERIC i need to
<v Speaker 1>If i'm going to Get Spider man, BOOSTERS i need
<v Speaker 1>to pre order. Them they are.
<v Speaker 4>Available, LUCKILY i don't care About Spider, man So i'm.
<v Speaker 4>Glady all, right there makes. Spern. YEAH i Like Spider.
<v Speaker 4>MAN i Like Spider, MAN i just don't like want to.
<v Speaker 1>Buy that is totally.
<v Speaker 4>Fair lots and lots of money worth Of Spider man
<v Speaker 4>trading cards is HOW i would.
<v Speaker 1>Put i'm, Hotter, Yeah i'm hotter On Spider man Than Final.
<v Speaker 1>Fantasy so that's Where i'll choose through. That but really,
<v Speaker 1>Quick i'm going to open one. Pack we're gonna see
<v Speaker 1>what we, Get, Okay So i'll narrate this for audio.
<v Speaker 1>Listeners opening the, pack you got an art card right
<v Speaker 1>off the, bat.
<v Speaker 2>The victory Fan fair. Music if you get, yes, Chokoo.
<v Speaker 1>Eric who is? This what do we got?
<v Speaker 4>Here? Oh that looks like an astrologian From Final fantasy.
<v Speaker 4>Fourteen IF i had to take a, guess that's a
<v Speaker 4>lot l astrologen holding up. THERE i forgot what it's,
<v Speaker 4>called but it's like the tool that you. USE i
<v Speaker 4>only astro an. Astrolabe yeah that's probably.
<v Speaker 1>Right, Yeah, okay what else do we? Got we Got Chocobo.
<v Speaker 1>Kick it's a sorcery. Card it's a good. Card uh
<v Speaker 1>kicker return a land you control to its owner's. Hand
<v Speaker 1>so kicker in magic is you can pay an extra, cost.
<v Speaker 2>Like you got a choo.
<v Speaker 1>Choo, yeah it's not The chocobo's that, people but.
<v Speaker 4>That's What i'm talking. About like the flavor is so
<v Speaker 4>good where it's literally Called chocobo kick and there's a
<v Speaker 4>kicker on, it which is fun. Wordplay but then also
<v Speaker 4>it plays into that landfall idea of it puts a
<v Speaker 4>land on your field back into your, hand so the
<v Speaker 4>next turn you can play the land again and get
<v Speaker 4>the landfall PROCs from your. Cards you can kind of
<v Speaker 4>see everything start to work and how it cycles. Around,
<v Speaker 4>speaking WHICH i hope they made Choke alena a. Card
<v Speaker 4>Choke alena was that the girl dressed up like a
<v Speaker 4>chocobo in Fifteen she's a characters LIKE npc you talked,
<v Speaker 4>To she's like dressed up as A.
<v Speaker 2>Jokovo that's.
<v Speaker 4>Awesome that Would i'm looking this up BECAUSE i don't
<v Speaker 4>fully believe, you, Right.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.
<v Speaker 3>One.
<v Speaker 1>THING i also, like there's a card here That i've
<v Speaker 1>got Called dreams Of. Laguna, yeah, Yeah. Fantasy, YEAH i
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't have known that Because i'm not A Final fantasy.
<v Speaker 1>Siko BUT i like on the bottom of the cards
<v Speaker 1>it tells you which games. From, Yes so this one
<v Speaker 1>Is Magic Tech. Infantry it's From Final fantasy. Fifteen it's
<v Speaker 1>an Artifact Creature. Soldier i'm just gonna roll through these
<v Speaker 1>because they're probably.
<v Speaker 4>Not pretending that's just a standard. Dude that's, yeah you're
<v Speaker 4>putting on the Field warriors. Sword this is From Final fantasy.
<v Speaker 4>One that's the jars like. Stuff so they put in
<v Speaker 4>a mechanic to do like job classes In magic The,
<v Speaker 4>gathering which is really.
<v Speaker 1>Cool this is a cool. Card it's a but cornered
<v Speaker 1>by Black mages and, YEAH i love that iconic iconic character.
<v Speaker 1>Designs final Ten. Syncopate OH i Got oh speaking Of
<v Speaker 1>Final fantasy, TEN i got an uncommon full Art Luca,
<v Speaker 1>stadium which is where they do. Blitz, Right, yeah so
<v Speaker 1>this is an. Artifact interesting got clashed the icons obviously
<v Speaker 1>From Final fantasy. Sixteen All, right we're getting close to
<v Speaker 1>getting to our rare hopefully on a lixir random. Encounter that's.
<v Speaker 1>FUN i like.
<v Speaker 4>That, yeah they have a command, menu want, Too that's
<v Speaker 4>that's pretty. Fun.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah OH i got a Rare Jadoor Aristo Aristocratic capital
<v Speaker 1>From Final fantasy Six it is a land that.
<v Speaker 4>Oh, yeah it's it's the land that has the adventure
<v Speaker 4>stuff on it, too so it has like extra effects
<v Speaker 4>that you can.
<v Speaker 1>Use oh, YEAH i guess that's really. Cool, OKAY i
<v Speaker 1>got a legendary creature human noble. Warrior this is a
<v Speaker 1>rare From Final fantasy. Fourteen Zenos Yay, Galvus Zenos Yay.
<v Speaker 4>GALVAS a lot of people really hate this dude because
<v Speaker 4>he turns, around, right he's got it?
<v Speaker 1>Back oh he. Does, yeah, yeah he turns Into, shinryu
<v Speaker 1>transcendent rival Of.
<v Speaker 4>Dragon i'm gonna warn people that if they care About
<v Speaker 4>Final fantasy, fourteen that's not like a Huge Final fantasy fourteen,
<v Speaker 4>Spoiler but if you care about fourteen, spoilers a fair
<v Speaker 4>number of the cards are spoilers in this set have
<v Speaker 4>some contextual. Spoilers for it's like a picture of a
<v Speaker 4>main character, dying not quite but like a little. Close
<v Speaker 4>because they do some things with like mechanical Like earth
<v Speaker 4>has a mechanic where when she dies in, combat everybody
<v Speaker 4>gets powered, up and it's like that's that's flavor text
<v Speaker 4>that also kind of gives away. Something so, yeah there's
<v Speaker 4>there's some of those sprinkled throughout all The Final. Fantasies
<v Speaker 4>but and.
<v Speaker 1>My foil was a dwarf In Castle. Guard OH i
<v Speaker 1>love those, Guys they're. Great and THEN i just got
<v Speaker 1>A i Got Insomnia Crown city from. Fifteen.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, yeah that's good.
<v Speaker 1>Land so, Yeah i'm happy About Lucas. Stadium that's a cool.
<v Speaker 4>Card that's.
<v Speaker 1>Sick, yeah but you know there's a lot of that
<v Speaker 1>stuff as, somebody like, AGAIN i, said Like Final fantasy,
<v Speaker 1>ten that's a GAME i, remember you, know playing with my.
<v Speaker 1>Friends so like that kind of imagery is like more
<v Speaker 1>striking to me than something from F f six or,
<v Speaker 1>eight you know that kind of. Thing so but this
<v Speaker 1>that's really. FUN i Think eric did a great job
<v Speaker 1>of kind of breaking down why it works so. Well and,
<v Speaker 1>YEAH i just hope more people can can kind of
<v Speaker 1>find them get in your. HANDS i totally agree if you.
<v Speaker 1>ARE i am A tcg. COLLECTOR i mostly Collect, pokemon
<v Speaker 1>BUT i like to Collect magic BECAUSE i like to
<v Speaker 1>play different. Decks i'm less so Like i'm more So
<v Speaker 1>i'm a player Of. MAGIC i don't play Much. Pokemon
<v Speaker 1>but one thing you should never do is pay out
<v Speaker 1>your ass for a pack of.
<v Speaker 4>Cards also support your local game.
<v Speaker 1>Store, yeah, yeah and some not all local game stores
<v Speaker 1>are as fair when it comes TO i love one
<v Speaker 1>of my one of my local game. Stores they even
<v Speaker 1>in demand super in demand. Packs they will they only
<v Speaker 1>sell FOR, msrp even if it's like really rare hard to.
<v Speaker 1>Get if they have, it you can just come by
<v Speaker 1>pick up pick up some. Packs other local shops one
<v Speaker 1>will will charge you out the out the. Butt it
<v Speaker 1>really kind of you. COULD i would reckon men like
<v Speaker 1>figuring out if you have multiple, locally like try calling, Around,
<v Speaker 1>hey what how much are you charging for, this and
<v Speaker 1>just kind of compare and try to figure it out that.
<v Speaker 4>WAY i love HOW i went support your local game
<v Speaker 4>store and you're, like, yeah but like not these. Guys,
<v Speaker 4>YEAH i mean like if.
<v Speaker 1>You, are if you are effectively scalping, people which some
<v Speaker 1>local game stores, DO i think that's.
<v Speaker 4>BAD i will say one thing That i've seen some
<v Speaker 4>stories doing THAT i think is pretty smart is they, say,
<v Speaker 4>like if you want to actually crack, this like we
<v Speaker 4>will break the seal here and then sell it to
<v Speaker 4>you FOR. Msrp but, like if you are clearly trying
<v Speaker 4>to scalp this and sell like the sealed, product then
<v Speaker 4>you're going to have to pay what the online going price.
<v Speaker 4>IS i think that's. Fair, YEAH i think that's a
<v Speaker 4>pretty fair compromise, because, yeah if you want to crack the,
<v Speaker 4>packs then buy them at the normal. Price but if
<v Speaker 4>you're trying to like buy a sealed set and sit
<v Speaker 4>on it for potentially higher price later on down the,
<v Speaker 4>road like happens in a lot of, yeah trading card,
<v Speaker 4>games then they, say, okay well if you're going to do,
<v Speaker 4>that then we're going to get the profit that we
<v Speaker 4>should get.
<v Speaker 1>Off, yeah that's, fair that's fair THAT i just like the,
<v Speaker 1>blanket you. Know scalping price was JUST i can't remember
<v Speaker 1>the exact number it was for a set Of pokemon
<v Speaker 1>Pack it was the New Journey Together prismatic Oh No Journey,
<v Speaker 1>together which is really is really in high. Demand my
<v Speaker 1>local shop was, like, yep four fifty or five bucks
<v Speaker 1>WHATEVER msrp, is and the other, yeah and the other
<v Speaker 1>SHOP i called was, like, yeah it's fifteen dollars a,
<v Speaker 1>pack And i'm just, like, okay WELL i know which
<v Speaker 1>which One i'm going to. Support but, yeah so like
<v Speaker 1>if you have multiple game stores, around you double, check you.
<v Speaker 1>Know but a couple more things before we end the,
<v Speaker 1>Episode charles will go to. You you've been PLAYING Fbc,
<v Speaker 1>firebreak LIKE i, said spin off From, control a co
<v Speaker 1>op multiplayer. Shooter tell us about.
<v Speaker 3>It, yes so this is a weird. Game it is
<v Speaker 3>remedy making a spin off Of. Control as you, said
<v Speaker 3>you play as essentially like maintenance guys in THE, fbc
<v Speaker 3>which is the game Controls Federal bureau Of. Control it's
<v Speaker 3>like kind of a haunted branch of. Government and your
<v Speaker 3>maintenance isn't stuff like cleaning toilets or. Whatever it's, like,
<v Speaker 3>oh there's sticky notes and they're covering this whole wing
<v Speaker 3>of THE fbc and you need to shoot them all.
<v Speaker 3>Off and also THE hisss has possessed a bunch OF
<v Speaker 3>i guess they're workers OF, fbc and you have to
<v Speaker 3>kill all them, Too so it's like it plays kind
<v Speaker 3>of like a zombie. Shooter and then you also have
<v Speaker 3>other tasks that you have to. Do AND i went
<v Speaker 3>To finland to play it a month or two. Ago
<v Speaker 3>they like If i'd be. THERE i did a preview,
<v Speaker 3>trip AND i liked that session more THAN i have
<v Speaker 3>liked What i've played, here because they've changed a bunch
<v Speaker 3>of stuff as games off and do. Development but the
<v Speaker 3>main thing for me that's different right now is the
<v Speaker 3>thing that makes the game unique is you have these
<v Speaker 3>things called crisis, kits which is like a set of
<v Speaker 3>abilities you have that are like specific to The federal
<v Speaker 3>Bal Over, control which always has these like supernatural mundane.
<v Speaker 3>Items SO i like use the splash kit WHERE i
<v Speaker 3>have like a big water cannon AND i can spray
<v Speaker 3>stuff with, water which can like put out fires and
<v Speaker 3>if someone's got like some kind of hazard on, THEM
<v Speaker 3>i can wash that. Off and the other parts of
<v Speaker 3>the crisis kit is you have a, deployable which is
<v Speaker 3>like just a thing you set down in the world
<v Speaker 3>that has different.
<v Speaker 1>EFFECTS i remember those like the, gnome right that would, like,
<v Speaker 1>well that's.
<v Speaker 3>That's the third, thing which is the altered, augment which
<v Speaker 3>is kind of like, Ability, yeah, Sorry i'm getting to Have,
<v Speaker 3>no you're, Fine you're. Fine the deployable is like so splash,
<v Speaker 3>kit that's the ONE i.
<v Speaker 4>Use you put it.
<v Speaker 3>Down IF i spray my water can at. It it
<v Speaker 3>creates like a little healing. Field and that also like
<v Speaker 3>sprays water all, Over so if there's a place that's on,
<v Speaker 3>fire you can drench. It if you got a bunch
<v Speaker 3>of like enemies overwhelming, YOU i can put this down real.
<v Speaker 3>Quick we can all get healed while we help clear the.
<v Speaker 4>Mouth it's very useful if you have guns during all.
<v Speaker 4>This you also have, guns, okay BECAUSE i was, like
<v Speaker 4>are you being sent in to fight the zombies with
<v Speaker 4>just a really big super Soaker and that's kind of, crazy,
<v Speaker 4>honestly that cooler it is a.
<v Speaker 3>Gun and the third thing is altern, augment, which like
<v Speaker 3>the other, ones are like magical quote unquote in like
<v Speaker 3>the sense that they're doing things like water doesn't normally
<v Speaker 3>heal you in real life for. Example, uh the altered
<v Speaker 3>augment is like you add an objectively magical item to your.
<v Speaker 3>Thing so in the splash, kit you get a, Teapot
<v Speaker 3>you attach it to the water. Can it turns it
<v Speaker 3>into a flame thrower and now you have like a
<v Speaker 3>huge flamethrower that is like shooting fire all over the.
<v Speaker 3>Place useful and. Chaotic, also all the altered augments can
<v Speaker 3>also hurt your. Allies So alex mentioned the. GNOME i
<v Speaker 3>think the jump kit has a, gnome and it's just
<v Speaker 3>a garden home you put down and then it just
<v Speaker 3>kind of gets possessed and jumps around and causes these
<v Speaker 3>crazy lightning, storms. Terrifying it will kill you and your,
<v Speaker 3>friends so you have to run away from, it but
<v Speaker 3>it's useful if there's again a bunch of. Guys the
<v Speaker 3>THING i have not liked about the game so far
<v Speaker 3>is those are all locked under like. Upgrades so the
<v Speaker 3>most defining characteristic of the, game which is these kits
<v Speaker 3>and all their, abilities you don't actually get a lot
<v Speaker 3>of them until you've played the game for a good,
<v Speaker 3>amount AND i feel like they should be there from the.
<v Speaker 3>Start so it's clear like this is what makes the game,
<v Speaker 3>interesting and even like the most basic upgrades you have
<v Speaker 3>to get from playing the, Game I've i'm like level.
<v Speaker 3>Ten i've played maybe four or five hours at this,
<v Speaker 3>point IF i had to, estimate not as much AS
<v Speaker 3>i would have liked to at this. Point BUT i
<v Speaker 3>only just now got my. DEPLOYABLE i don't have my
<v Speaker 3>ultimate thing, yet SO i can just now put down
<v Speaker 3>my washer thing and when you don't have all the exciting,
<v Speaker 3>stuff the game is kind of. Boring it's just not like.
<v Speaker 4>You So, eric you mentioned.
<v Speaker 3>Guns you do have, guns and there are more that
<v Speaker 3>you can unlock as you get further in through the,
<v Speaker 3>Game but you start out and you just GET i
<v Speaker 3>think there's a submachine, gun there's a, shotgun and there's a,
<v Speaker 3>revolver and then your first upgrades are you can get
<v Speaker 3>a bolt action rifle and you can upgrade the revolver's.
<v Speaker 3>Damage so a lot of People i've seen at my
<v Speaker 3>level have just been using the upgraded revolver damage because
<v Speaker 3>it just does the most, damage. Right but the guns
<v Speaker 3>don't feel particularly. Good you can only have one at a.
<v Speaker 3>Time Like i'd love to have OPTIONS i could switch.
<v Speaker 3>BETWEEN i wish. THAT i don't know if you used
<v Speaker 3>a gun a, bunch that would be how you upgrade.
<v Speaker 3>It but, instead all the upgrades are in this like
<v Speaker 3>it's not a live service. Game they're gonna add, updates
<v Speaker 3>but you don't have to pay like a for a
<v Speaker 3>battle pass or. Anything but the upgrades are structured like
<v Speaker 3>a battle. Pass so in order to get to page
<v Speaker 3>two of the, upgrades you have to have unlocked a
<v Speaker 3>certain number of stuff on page, one which includes class
<v Speaker 3>upgrades and weapons and. Cosmetics so it's a thing where
<v Speaker 3>it's LIKE i have to unlock the Yellow gloves in
<v Speaker 3>order to get to the next page WHERE i can
<v Speaker 3>potentially later unlock you, know the actual gear abilities THAT
<v Speaker 3>i want to.
<v Speaker 2>Have, WAIT i forget you might have mentioned THAT i
<v Speaker 2>might have missed. It but this is A is this
<v Speaker 2>a paid game or free to? Play it's it's.
<v Speaker 3>Forty bucks thirty nine ninety, nine but it is on
<v Speaker 3>Game pass AND i think it's on PlayStation, plus uh
<v Speaker 3>like essential essentials.
<v Speaker 4>Here, yeah so it's a thing that like it's paid
<v Speaker 4>in some. Way it is paid in some.
<v Speaker 3>WAY i think most people are probably going to be
<v Speaker 3>playing it through Game.
<v Speaker 2>PASS i, asked just because that would like shape how
<v Speaker 2>progression works for, sure for, Sure LIKE i was, like
<v Speaker 2>DO i have to paid on lock or like or
<v Speaker 2>DO i have the option of paying to speed up
<v Speaker 2>progression or.
<v Speaker 4>Is it is it further? Monetized?
<v Speaker 3>Yeah there you can buy cosmetic like a cosmetic battle,
<v Speaker 3>pass but you can't MONETIZE i don't think you can
<v Speaker 3>buy your way through upgrades or, anything which IS i
<v Speaker 3>appreciate THOUGH i kind of WISH i could pay the
<v Speaker 3>skip pets all the stuff BECAUSE i just want To.
<v Speaker 4>Charles given them.
<v Speaker 3>Ideas but, yeah and then the other thing is separate from,
<v Speaker 3>this the. Requisitions that's what that main thing is. Called
<v Speaker 3>we're unlocking class abilities and weapons and. Stuff there's the
<v Speaker 3>research lab where you're getting perks and the perk systems
<v Speaker 3>cool where it's like you unlock it at, first and
<v Speaker 3>let's say it's like you heal, faster you can then
<v Speaker 3>upgrade it so you heal even, faster and then you
<v Speaker 3>can upgrade it to a resonant tier where you and
<v Speaker 3>all your allies within a certain radius get. It so
<v Speaker 3>you could theoretically do a bunch of cool builds where
<v Speaker 3>people are picking different like resonant level, perks and if
<v Speaker 3>you're staying, together you're getting all these like cool cool,
<v Speaker 3>abilities but you only unlock them like one every level
<v Speaker 3>that you get the new option to buy. Again i'm
<v Speaker 3>like level, ten like five hours in AND i don't
<v Speaker 3>know if it's going to speed up or slow down at,
<v Speaker 3>all but like you get up to like level forty
<v Speaker 3>to fifty when you're unlocking new stuff still and when
<v Speaker 3>you're spending your currency on that. Page it does not
<v Speaker 3>count towards the page where all the cosmetics and stuf,
<v Speaker 3>are but it's the same. Currency so it's a thing
<v Speaker 3>of LIKE i have five, POINTS i can unlock the healing,
<v Speaker 3>faster but it won't progress me towards getting my later
<v Speaker 3>class features and. Stuff so that that's like my main
<v Speaker 3>issue is, that like there's a version of this where
<v Speaker 3>you unlock three perks a, level you start with all
<v Speaker 3>your crisis kit, stuff and the game feels like HOW
<v Speaker 3>i think they want it to, feel and then we
<v Speaker 3>can evaluate how the game is and you know whether
<v Speaker 3>we like it or. Not and right Now i'm kind
<v Speaker 3>of in this weird thing WHERE i feel Like i'm
<v Speaker 3>just waiting to get to the, game which doesn't feel.
<v Speaker 4>Good and yeah it.
<v Speaker 3>Is it's, yeah, yeah it's three player, online.
<v Speaker 2>But you can't play by.
<v Speaker 4>Yourself you can play by.
<v Speaker 3>YOURSELF i would not recommend.
<v Speaker 4>It it's a n.
<v Speaker 2>Like on a scale of one to Night, rain how
<v Speaker 2>ill advised is playing? Alone it's like it's.
<v Speaker 3>Possible there's just. Things so so the, kits you have
<v Speaker 3>your basic, THINGS i can do alternate. Stuff, right so
<v Speaker 3>you have your, WATER i can put up, fires BUT
<v Speaker 3>i can also give enemies the wet. Condition the jump
<v Speaker 3>kit has this like electric baton. Thing if you hit
<v Speaker 3>someone with the wet, condition it does more damage because
<v Speaker 3>you're shocking someone that's. Wet so you can do combos
<v Speaker 3>and stuff like. That but they can also do things,
<v Speaker 3>where for, example there's fires you might need to put.
<v Speaker 3>Out if you or yourself are on, fire it's nice
<v Speaker 3>to have the splash cannon because then you can wash
<v Speaker 3>yourself off or you can wash your allies. Off there's
<v Speaker 3>broken fuses and stuff where it's nice to have the
<v Speaker 3>jump kit because you can use your electric thing to do.
<v Speaker 3>It and then it's nice to have the fixed kit
<v Speaker 3>where you have like a big wrench where you can
<v Speaker 3>fix broken. Stuff so you don't have the other. Stuff
<v Speaker 3>those only. Three, luckily if you don't have one of
<v Speaker 3>the other two, kits you just have to manually figure it.
<v Speaker 3>Out so the fixing and the electrical stuff you do
<v Speaker 3>through this like it's kind of Like Hell divers, esque
<v Speaker 3>where like you're typing in the dpad stuff code to
<v Speaker 3>put in the. Code it's just like, that except it's
<v Speaker 3>just the left and right bumpers and so you're just
<v Speaker 3>doing right, right, left, right, left let left right right
<v Speaker 3>left left right right, right and then that like completes the.
<v Speaker 3>Thing you can do that on your own if you
<v Speaker 3>don't have the. Kit, also it's nice if someone has
<v Speaker 3>the fixed kit but they're across the map and you
<v Speaker 3>want to fix the thing and you don't want it
<v Speaker 3>To you just don't want to wait for them to come.
<v Speaker 3>Back the thing that makes it hard is if you're
<v Speaker 3>playing single, player all of that stuff is still available to.
<v Speaker 3>You it just is faster because one you're doing it by,
<v Speaker 3>yourself and two it's all this like timed minigame. Thing
<v Speaker 3>so there's one mode where you're putting up these emitters
<v Speaker 3>to clear out this gunk from a, place and you're
<v Speaker 3>attaching all these special plates to a, thing and there's
<v Speaker 3>like six plates and they all need to be. Fixed
<v Speaker 3>and if you're one guy that has the fixer, tool
<v Speaker 3>it'll take you all of ten fifteen seconds because you're
<v Speaker 3>going around hitting. It maybe you've got another person that
<v Speaker 3>wants to do the fixing, thing and it goes a
<v Speaker 3>little bit faster as well in handling. Them if you're
<v Speaker 3>doing single, player you have to go one by one
<v Speaker 3>right left, right, right left, right, left, left, left, right left, left, left, right, right, right,
<v Speaker 3>right right, right and then go to the next one right, left, right, left, left,
<v Speaker 3>left left, Left and it's just not fun to do.
<v Speaker 2>That so it's just not it's not super well designed
<v Speaker 2>to play by, yourself even though.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah it's just it's just not. Interesting and then there's
<v Speaker 3>a there was a boss. Fight there's there's an, Enemy Sticky.
<v Speaker 3>Ricky if you get to the end of paper, chase
<v Speaker 3>it's just a giant maheemoth made of sticky.
<v Speaker 4>Notes very.
<v Speaker 3>Funny it's frustrating because you gotta use one machine to
<v Speaker 3>make him. Wet you gotta use then other schine to do.
<v Speaker 3>Electrically they're on different sides of the. Map different parts
<v Speaker 3>of them can break, down so you gotta repair this
<v Speaker 3>thing and this thing and then press it to turn this,
<v Speaker 3>on and then press to turn this. On at the same,
<v Speaker 3>time infinite waves of enemies are, spawning and if you're
<v Speaker 3>one guy dealing with all the enemies and trying to
<v Speaker 3>do this and trying to do, that it's not even
<v Speaker 3>like an unmanageable amount of. Enemies there's just so many
<v Speaker 3>tasks going. On that was WHY i was supposed to
<v Speaker 3>be in a meeting yesterday With marcus and some other,
<v Speaker 3>people AND i was like ten twelve minutes late BECAUSE
<v Speaker 3>i was just in this boss. FIGHT i was, LIKE
<v Speaker 3>i swear it was gonna be done by. Now but
<v Speaker 3>every TIME i try to do, this another guy shows
<v Speaker 3>up AND i have to run back AND i.
<v Speaker 4>Got to heal and do.
<v Speaker 2>Whatever so damn, Sticky.
<v Speaker 3>Ricky i'm at a point Where i'm, Like i'm GONNA
<v Speaker 3>i need to play more of the game BECAUSE i
<v Speaker 3>want to unlock all the abilities to be able to
<v Speaker 3>Say i'm playing the game as they want it to.
<v Speaker 3>Be but in this like modern culture of like so
<v Speaker 3>many shooters are free to, play so many games are
<v Speaker 3>free to, play people are going to bounce off of
<v Speaker 3>a game so, fast especially if it's on game. Pass
<v Speaker 3>that's how something you've played For, LIKE i just don't
<v Speaker 3>think it's a good move to put a bunch of
<v Speaker 3>stuff behind upgrade. Walls AND i would love to do
<v Speaker 3>like a bunch of funky, experiments BUT i just don't
<v Speaker 3>Think i'm gonna put in the hours to get to that,
<v Speaker 3>point AND i don't think most.
<v Speaker 4>People are going to.
<v Speaker 2>Either so for the for those of us that are
<v Speaker 2>not really into competitive, multiplayer games like, myself BUT i
<v Speaker 2>also really love control And i'm excited For control. Too
<v Speaker 2>is there any like narrative stuff in here that's like
<v Speaker 2>interesting or THAT i should care about that would set
<v Speaker 2>up the next game in?
<v Speaker 1>Anyway, well i'd also say it's not a competitive, shooter
<v Speaker 1>do you, like, yeah it's a multipla, yeah multiplayer.
<v Speaker 2>SHOOTER i, guess like, yeah like, yeah is there anything
<v Speaker 2>here that it's like that would make me want to
<v Speaker 2>play it just to see like more stuff like there
<v Speaker 2>there are.
<v Speaker 3>Some fun little dialogue moments that people will say out
<v Speaker 3>in the field or you'll get in the. Menu, uh
<v Speaker 3>and that's about. It like there's there was a lot
<v Speaker 3>where someone's, like did you know the director got this
<v Speaker 3>job and they didn't have an. Experience, oh it's like a,
<v Speaker 3>oh just like Referencing, jesse just like quips that kind
<v Speaker 3>of reference, stuff or there's little nods to the. Lore
<v Speaker 3>but like unless you're taking, note like unless you're really paying,
<v Speaker 3>attention you're not going to internalize a lot of. It and,
<v Speaker 3>yeah so.
<v Speaker 4>Nothing important Basically overwatch pre match dialogue based basically, yeah, yeah.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah are there not like environmental logs or anything you
<v Speaker 1>can find in the world, no like audio logues or
<v Speaker 1>OR i don't.
<v Speaker 3>Think so there's also like just on the note of
<v Speaker 3>the environment And i'll just say this one thing and
<v Speaker 3>to be. Done there's a lot of stuff where there's
<v Speaker 3>ways to do it that isn't immediately, clear and IT'S
<v Speaker 3>i think the intention is like someone will figure it
<v Speaker 3>out and you'll feel really cool and then they'll tell
<v Speaker 3>their friends about. It but if you're just playing, it
<v Speaker 3>it's not going to click for. You one of those
<v Speaker 3>things is there's like open binders and if you pick them,
<v Speaker 3>up those are like the currency in the. Game AND
<v Speaker 3>i knew that because they told me that during the,
<v Speaker 3>preview BUT i don't think it was ever explained to
<v Speaker 3>me in the game THAT i should be looking for
<v Speaker 3>those and picking those up because that's like the currency
<v Speaker 3>is just like documents and paperwork. Basically so you could
<v Speaker 3>look around and be, LIKE i keep picking up these lower,
<v Speaker 3>notes and, Ah i'm getting is more. Currency there's another
<v Speaker 3>thing of like one of the modes is called ground,
<v Speaker 3>control and you're picking up there's these like gross little
<v Speaker 3>pods on the. Wall if you shoot, them you'll get
<v Speaker 3>these glowing pearls out of. Them the pearls are radioactive
<v Speaker 3>and if you hold them for five, seconds it'll max
<v Speaker 3>out your radioactive met or just start taking damage off
<v Speaker 3>to go to a healing. Station, apparently AFTER i died from,
<v Speaker 3>RADIOACTIVITY i got a hint that popped up and it's, like,
<v Speaker 3>well if you stand right next to one of the
<v Speaker 3>pods when they, pop you get leech. Slimed it's to be,
<v Speaker 3>CLEAR i didn't say. This it said you glowed to.
<v Speaker 3>Death next, time use a healing shower or leech slime
<v Speaker 3>to prevent.
<v Speaker 2>That AND i was, like what the heck is leech?
<v Speaker 3>Slime and if you stand near one of the, Pods
<v Speaker 3>and to be, clear this is like we've all played video.
<v Speaker 3>Games there's a little bulbous pod and if you pop,
<v Speaker 3>it it explodes and splatters. Everywhere every instinct in me is,
<v Speaker 3>like don't be near that, way you're gonna get. Poisoned,
<v Speaker 3>apparently if you get slimed and it covers your, camera
<v Speaker 3>then you're like immune to radiation for a little. Bit
<v Speaker 3>so that to me feels like a the second you
<v Speaker 3>start the, game it should tell, you, hey stand near
<v Speaker 3>these things and get slime so you don't radiate yourself
<v Speaker 3>to death and instead it's like a weird trial and,
<v Speaker 3>Error like it's just.
<v Speaker 4>Not, fun or even the idea that you could have
<v Speaker 4>some sort of like fun in universe way of maybe
<v Speaker 4>you stumble upon a training video that you pick up
<v Speaker 4>in the field and you take it back and you
<v Speaker 4>watch and it's like how to not get radioactivity from
<v Speaker 4>those Weird, yeah stuff like that'd be. Great, yeah or
<v Speaker 4>especially if it was remedy that's, free you can take.
<v Speaker 3>That especially if it was more clear that it was
<v Speaker 3>that you're doing it, wrong you know where like when
<v Speaker 3>it just feels a little bit, Bad i'm, LIKE i
<v Speaker 3>GUESS i just got to keep healing myself all the.
<v Speaker 3>Time but if there was something like, that whereas like
<v Speaker 3>a clear surely there's a better way to do, this
<v Speaker 3>and then there was the unlockable stuff like, THAT i
<v Speaker 3>think that'd be really.
<v Speaker 4>Cool. YEAH i have one quick, Question, so like control
<v Speaker 4>is all about THE scp style nature of these things
<v Speaker 4>and kind of like the incomprehensibility of.
<v Speaker 1>A lot of the way that these like entities.
<v Speaker 4>Act do you get a lot of that sort of
<v Speaker 4>horror in this because the way you were describing that
<v Speaker 4>boss fight earlier was sticky. Ricky it sounded like a boss.
<v Speaker 4>Fight it sounded like a video game boss. Fight AND
<v Speaker 4>i don't know if the strange horror of like the
<v Speaker 4>fridge or the ash tray maze would translate Over have
<v Speaker 4>you had those moments in here or as it felt
<v Speaker 4>more like you're kind of Playing left For.
<v Speaker 3>Dead it's a lot more left for. DEAD i WHEN
<v Speaker 3>i talk to them about the game In, finland they were, saying,
<v Speaker 3>like If control is eighty percent surrealist horror and twenty
<v Speaker 3>percent surrealist, comedy this is kind of flipped where it's
<v Speaker 3>like they're leaning a lot more into how it's goofy
<v Speaker 3>than how it's like, serious and a lot of characters
<v Speaker 3>are treating it, seriously but there's not a lot of
<v Speaker 3>It's it doesn't definitely hasn't tried to scare me very, often,
<v Speaker 3>gotcha and these that there's only five there's only five,
<v Speaker 3>jobs so the ideas you're playing these same things over
<v Speaker 3>and over. Again So i've played all the jobs multiple
<v Speaker 3>times AND i don't have all this stuff unlocked, yet
<v Speaker 3>but they want you to just like craft your build
<v Speaker 3>nd over and over. Again so if they were trying
<v Speaker 3>to surprise me like, that you get old very, quickly
<v Speaker 3>SO i kind of understand why they haven't done.
<v Speaker 4>It but, yeah that's a.
<v Speaker 1>BUMMER i been really looking forward to that.
<v Speaker 3>ONE i might still check out still play, it, yeah
<v Speaker 3>still still maybe you'll like it Way, YEAH I i like.
<v Speaker 1>It, YEAH i definitely want to make some time to
<v Speaker 1>play that in the coming. Weeks BUT i KNOW i
<v Speaker 1>mentioned at the top we were gonna check Out Fantasy
<v Speaker 1>life And lost And. RANDOM i think we're going to
<v Speaker 1>save those for next week just for the sake of.
<v Speaker 1>Time we're now over two hours and we got things
<v Speaker 1>we got to get, done but real. QUICK i did
<v Speaker 1>just want to, Say, eric thank you so much for joining.
<v Speaker 1>Us do you want to take a second and let
<v Speaker 1>people know what you're working on where they can find
<v Speaker 1>you all that?
<v Speaker 4>Stuff, yeah, well well thank you for having me. On
<v Speaker 4>as we said the, TOP i mostly do stuff For
<v Speaker 4>acts of The bloogout. Nowadays that's my INDEPENDENT rpg PODCAST
<v Speaker 4>i co host With Kat bailey And Nattia, oxford where
<v Speaker 4>we cover the wide wide world of. RPGs we just
<v Speaker 4>did our own episode On Final fantasy And Magic The
<v Speaker 4>gathering With chip And. Bought that was really. Good coming
<v Speaker 4>up later this, month we'll be doing a charity stream
<v Speaker 4>for Trans. Lifeline our fourth annual charity stream will be
<v Speaker 4>On june twenty eighth and. Ninth we'll be doing a
<v Speaker 4>ton of fun stuff for, that including some magic. Stuff
<v Speaker 4>we'll have, giveaways we'll have codes to hand, Out we'll
<v Speaker 4>have all kinds of. PRIZES i will drink a gonster
<v Speaker 4>if we h. Over. SO a conster is something that
<v Speaker 4>my brother in law told me about AND i saw
<v Speaker 4>it AND i was, LIKE i have to do, this
<v Speaker 4>but only under a circumstance in WHICH i have like
<v Speaker 4>a plausible excuse to try, this which is, like, oh
<v Speaker 4>it's a charity. INCENTIVE i have to do it because
<v Speaker 4>OTHERWISE i have to admit THAT i purely crave my own.
<v Speaker 4>DESTRUCTION a gonster is fifty Percent, guinness like like dark
<v Speaker 4>Stout guinness, yea and fifty percent original Green monster energy oh.
<v Speaker 4>My and it kind of looks like if you put
<v Speaker 4>you know When Billie eilish had like the black and green,
<v Speaker 4>hair yes with kind of staggered. Highlights, yeah it looks
<v Speaker 4>like if you put that in a, cup because it
<v Speaker 4>kind of. Separates and the worst part is that The
<v Speaker 4>guinness seems to separate on top and the monster goes
<v Speaker 4>to the, bottom WHICH i think in that, scenario IF
<v Speaker 4>i had to drink one and then the, Other i'd
<v Speaker 4>want to Go Monster guinness instead Of Guinness. Monster if
<v Speaker 4>we reach the point where we will have raised fifty
<v Speaker 4>thousand total lifetime raised for Trans, LIFELINE i will drink The,
<v Speaker 4>gonster an Entire gonster live on, stream and then whatever happens.
<v Speaker 4>Happens we'll see where it goes from. There but, yeah
<v Speaker 4>it's a great charity stream we do every. Year really
<v Speaker 4>excited to put that. Together we have a lot of
<v Speaker 4>great folks who are lining up to do some segments
<v Speaker 4>and have some fun on, there so it'll be a good. Time,
<v Speaker 4>otherwise LIKE i, Said i'm on NORM, dfm which is
<v Speaker 4>a retrospective game club PODCAST i do With Kennis. Sheppard
<v Speaker 4>we're currently Doing Near. Automata we just restarted that season
<v Speaker 4>and have been getting back into. IT i think we're
<v Speaker 4>at the ending Of ROUTE a right, now which is really.
<v Speaker 4>Exciting And, otherwise you can find me on various different websites.
<v Speaker 4>FREELANCING i do a lot of STUFF i GN i
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<v Speaker 4>FOR Pc. Gamer i've done stuff for Games. Radar, uh
<v Speaker 4>nothing for gaming for, me. Y'all don't Come. Colin you
<v Speaker 4>know so you put me? Podcast yeah, yeah, yeah what is?
<v Speaker 4>This well my word's not good enough for, You LIKE
<v Speaker 4>i gotta, Change but, yeah, NO i. DO i do
<v Speaker 4>a lot of stuff. Everywhere that's kind of what you
<v Speaker 4>got to do in this. Industry so uh BUT i
<v Speaker 4>love all the STUFF i. Do so thank you for
<v Speaker 4>for having me, On, like, yeah thanks for coming.
<v Speaker 3>On it was so great to podcast with you before
<v Speaker 3>your untimely gonster based.
<v Speaker 4>Death, look IF i go out drinking, gonster you can
<v Speaker 4>put it on my. TOMBSTONE i went down the WAY i,
<v Speaker 4>lived you. Know that's that's HOW i always wanted to.
<v Speaker 1>Go that's, uncomfortably uncomfortably but never forgotten in severe. Distress,
<v Speaker 1>yeah that was, Good. MARCUS i just wanted to say
<v Speaker 1>you deserved a laugh for. That speaking of that funny,
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