Flare Jeans ft PJ Tucker

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This week we are joined by friend of the show, PJ Tucker. We discuss his recruitment to Texas, his unique NBA journey, how he became a Sneaker Icon, Fashion Tips, Music and much more! Follow us everywhere @club520podcast

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2023-03-09 92 min Transcript

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Yeah, I ain't fall. When the summer I can get 0:00:06.160 --> 0:00:10.040 fly all my life, all my life, Frank fault. When 0:00:10.119 --> 0:00:14.800 the summer I been getting fly all my life. Sir, Hey, 0:00:14.960 --> 0:00:17.480 we're back Club Fall twenty podcast. I'm the host. My 0:00:17.560 --> 0:00:19.919 name is DJ. To my right, young te you gonna 0:00:19.960 --> 0:00:22.440 notch up my brother. How you feeling, man, I'm good, 0:00:22.560 --> 0:00:26.000 appreciate it. We got one of my guys in the fielding. 0:00:26.320 --> 0:00:28.560 We got one of the ones in the build last 0:00:28.800 --> 0:00:31.280 not at least my far left. I got resident chef. 0:00:31.320 --> 0:00:33.239 You know what I'm saying, Bishop Grantley, my boy be here. 0:00:33.280 --> 0:00:40.199 How you feeling Hello? Yeah, Nut, He's been a real 0:00:40.240 --> 0:00:43.279 Sunday right now class when I leave. To my media left, man, 0:00:43.320 --> 0:00:45.639 we got the guy with us. Man, you gotta look down. 0:00:45.640 --> 0:00:47.000 You see the jack. Do you see who's in the chair. 0:00:47.080 --> 0:00:48.920 I'm gonna leftie through the know what I'm saying. See 0:00:49.360 --> 0:00:54.440 you know mother, Hey champion, we share the championship together. Man, 0:00:55.320 --> 0:00:57.280 he's one of them guys. Man, he's a close friend, 0:00:57.680 --> 0:01:01.560 a dude that I appreciate, one dude that I respect. PJ. Tucker, 0:01:02.000 --> 0:01:09.080 NBA Champion, NBA vent Texas Longhorn Legend. I'm so happy 0:01:09.080 --> 0:01:11.320 to have you on the show. Bro Man, it's good 0:01:11.360 --> 0:01:13.679 to be your dog. Hey man, We're happy to have you. 0:01:13.720 --> 0:01:15.480 Been one of the hardest working in the basketball and 0:01:15.520 --> 0:01:16.960 the NBA. You know what I'm saying. Before we get 0:01:16.959 --> 0:01:18.480 in to the episode. You see the taper right here, 0:01:18.640 --> 0:01:21.039 just wonderful bottle right here in the championship basketball right here. 0:01:21.240 --> 0:01:23.720 You can put your ship right here. Advertising to see 0:01:23.720 --> 0:01:26.240 his lovely laptop. We're smacking it right here, PJ. We 0:01:26.240 --> 0:01:28.360 gotta run a drunk right now. We're trying to get 0:01:28.360 --> 0:01:30.160 a million from Sketchers to switch. I'll be here and shoes. 0:01:30.160 --> 0:01:31.640 You know what I'm saying, take off to the pad 0:01:31.760 --> 0:01:34.679 leather pandas I know you the shoe guy. What would 0:01:34.680 --> 0:01:36.200 the type for Sketchers? You know what I'm saying to 0:01:36.360 --> 0:01:38.199 what check they gotta cut to get on your feet? 0:01:38.520 --> 0:01:40.160 So we know you got the best feeds on earth 0:01:40.240 --> 0:01:41.800 right now, we ain't even gonna play them games with you. 0:01:41.840 --> 0:01:43.959 We know how you what, but what Sketchers gotta do 0:01:43.959 --> 0:01:45.640 to get you in the in the what's happenings in 0:01:45.680 --> 0:01:49.320 the shape ups? Man, That's that's that's tough, right listen. 0:01:49.720 --> 0:01:52.200 I'm not gonna let you do that. Is that out 0:01:52.200 --> 0:01:54.559 of the pocket in my disrespect. We're gonna we're gonna 0:01:54.640 --> 0:02:01.280 end that question. He is a Nike Listen, I'm in 0:02:01.320 --> 0:02:04.800 my bag right now. I love it blue cups. I'll 0:02:04.840 --> 0:02:08.080 tell you like it's guys who got Nike deals and 0:02:08.240 --> 0:02:14.280 like sponsorships and peas and players and all that. PJ 0:02:14.480 --> 0:02:17.200 got one of them deals. Oh, he got one of 0:02:17.200 --> 0:02:21.320 them deals. And I stole his Kobe six, which one 0:02:22.440 --> 0:02:26.840 them great with the pink. Yeah, they upstairs. My boy 0:02:26.919 --> 0:02:30.840 got a my boy, We ain't gotta worried about schedules. 0:02:30.840 --> 0:02:34.560 He niked for life, but life, he man. He breaded 0:02:34.600 --> 0:02:37.160 himself some will man with those shoes and things. That 0:02:37.600 --> 0:02:40.120 is amazing. We got so many things to talk about, 0:02:40.120 --> 0:02:42.120 but first and foremost, I already started off the episode 0:02:42.120 --> 0:02:43.760 with a bullshit question. You know what I'm saying, being 0:02:43.800 --> 0:02:46.720 with you, being a guy, I ain't even gonna ask how, 0:02:46.840 --> 0:02:48.920 but how was that feeling when you got that car 0:02:49.080 --> 0:02:51.600 and was like, damn you get that Kobe pe What 0:02:51.680 --> 0:02:54.520 was that feeling? Like? Oh, you know what, that was 0:02:54.520 --> 0:02:59.440 one of the best because I wouldn't expecting it, because 0:02:59.440 --> 0:03:02.720 I was asked for for so long. I wasn't expected 0:03:02.760 --> 0:03:05.200 it it was like all right, you know what I'm 0:03:05.440 --> 0:03:07.560 I'm just I'm gonna go like I'm gonna go like 0:03:07.840 --> 0:03:12.480 my deals up. Puma is coming with the bag. Yo 0:03:12.639 --> 0:03:17.480 talking about Puma bags because listen, I will sign with Puma. 0:03:17.480 --> 0:03:21.839 To them, they given like creative direction, like it's like, 0:03:22.320 --> 0:03:24.720 you know what I'm saying, that's like going from home, 0:03:24.919 --> 0:03:28.959 like you listen, it's different control, yeah for real, and 0:03:29.120 --> 0:03:31.480 that like to like they're like all right, you know, 0:03:31.600 --> 0:03:33.360 all right, he go, he go. You know what I'm saying. 0:03:33.360 --> 0:03:35.720 It was like I don't care how you throw that, Like, 0:03:35.840 --> 0:03:38.400 I don't care how you give me them. I'm taking them. 0:03:38.440 --> 0:03:40.480 So that was that was That was special, bro. That 0:03:40.520 --> 0:03:42.360 was special. Man. Shout out to niggas who made nick 0:03:42.440 --> 0:03:46.120 IDs never bottled. It's me. I'm niggas me too. Nig 0:03:46.520 --> 0:03:48.440 class made all the shoes in the world. Ain't buy 0:03:48.480 --> 0:03:53.800 a single one of the motherfuckings. Ninety five. Oh my god. 0:03:54.760 --> 0:03:58.560 When I got a league, that's the first thing. What 0:03:58.640 --> 0:04:04.720 I five. I got some upstairs. That's how we got 0:04:04.720 --> 0:04:06.680 so many places that we can started. We gotta start 0:04:06.600 --> 0:04:08.080 at the beginning, you know what I'm saying, start off 0:04:08.080 --> 0:04:09.640 the hoops. That's you know what I'm saying. Obviously, you 0:04:09.680 --> 0:04:12.640 know what I'm saying. You from the well considered North Carolina, 0:04:12.680 --> 0:04:20.680 the East coast, east coast, but it's South. Having to 0:04:20.680 --> 0:04:25.360 toss up the Virginia about that ship. But yeah, we South, 0:04:25.600 --> 0:04:27.520 not real. How was it, man, You know what I'm saying, 0:04:27.520 --> 0:04:30.360 growing up getting your ship off obviously used a prospect. 0:04:30.400 --> 0:04:32.440 How was it playing high school basketball in the area 0:04:32.440 --> 0:04:33.680 you was at, because it was a lot of dogs 0:04:33.680 --> 0:04:36.520 where you was at, Man, you was playing against another 0:04:36.600 --> 0:04:39.160 d win like a like a high level D one, 0:04:39.240 --> 0:04:42.440 playing every single game, like every game, somebody's going to 0:04:42.520 --> 0:04:45.479 do one somewhere, and that was wild, Like you can 0:04:45.880 --> 0:04:49.080 shot the Randolph no more. Playing in the country, Eric 0:04:49.120 --> 0:04:53.200 Williams Top twenty. You get Randy Randy Pully like you can. 0:04:53.400 --> 0:04:57.040 Literally every single game it was somebody so you literally 0:04:57.120 --> 0:04:59.320 it was like it was like events like Friday nights. 0:04:59.560 --> 0:05:01.440 It was like in the high school basketball games. It 0:05:01.520 --> 0:05:04.039 was like an event, like it's selling out. You got 0:05:04.040 --> 0:05:06.000 to get there early during the girls game because the 0:05:06.040 --> 0:05:10.120 miss game is going crazy playing the glasshow Smith climb 0:05:10.120 --> 0:05:13.120 back then which now is John wall John took it over. 0:05:13.200 --> 0:05:16.520 But our Christmas tournament is nuts playing at NC State. 0:05:17.040 --> 0:05:18.800 It was huge, man. All the best players in the 0:05:18.800 --> 0:05:21.880 country came down for that. So it was every night 0:05:21.960 --> 0:05:27.039 he playing question about a player. I can't remember his 0:05:27.120 --> 0:05:29.480 name for sure. I think it's Ray John Terry. Is 0:05:29.520 --> 0:05:35.039 that his name? So listen, wait, So I went to 0:05:35.040 --> 0:05:38.200 school in North Carolina, sure did. So I knew about 0:05:38.200 --> 0:05:39.640 p J. I know about it. But they used to 0:05:39.720 --> 0:05:44.880 talk about this dude. Hey, listen, all right, So Ray 0:05:44.920 --> 0:05:50.000 John played with CP. Okay, listen, he might be like 0:05:50.880 --> 0:05:53.200 the one guy I think, like it's a couple of 0:05:53.240 --> 0:05:56.000 dudes I played against like my whole life. I feel like, 0:05:56.080 --> 0:05:57.680 could have been a league. Should have been a league. 0:05:57.800 --> 0:05:59.480 It's like crazy to me that he didn't make it 0:05:59.560 --> 0:06:02.400 a league. But really, because I mean he was really 0:06:02.680 --> 0:06:04.919 like the game now it's like made for hight Like 0:06:05.000 --> 0:06:09.640 he's a real like three four, like could do it all. 0:06:09.720 --> 0:06:14.480 Like was a problem. Bro. Yeah, everybody always my whole time, 0:06:14.560 --> 0:06:16.680 man Carolina, when I was in my two years, they 0:06:16.720 --> 0:06:18.919 always talked about him like he was a dog. They 0:06:19.000 --> 0:06:24.080 will talk about you, they like PJ. He was a dog. 0:06:25.080 --> 0:06:29.280 Obviously they talked about CP. But and he didn't make 0:06:29.320 --> 0:06:31.760 to the league. I don't think he did. He didn't. 0:06:31.760 --> 0:06:34.640 He never made to the league, but he was in 0:06:34.680 --> 0:06:38.840 that in our year three class, Caroline had one scholarship. Yeah, 0:06:38.880 --> 0:06:43.280 and he got it. Damn damn ye he got it. 0:06:43.320 --> 0:06:45.839 Carolina had one scholarship that year. He got it. Is 0:06:45.839 --> 0:06:51.280 that the reason why you went into a CC You know? 0:06:51.480 --> 0:06:55.320 It is no, no bullshit, Like I only wanted to 0:06:55.320 --> 0:06:57.440 go to Carolina Like me and CP used to be like, Oh, 0:06:57.480 --> 0:07:01.080 we're gonna go to go to school together, like uh, 0:07:01.320 --> 0:07:03.440 but my grades were good enough to go to Wait 0:07:03.680 --> 0:07:05.559 like they want to be, Oh, no, Awake, It's fine, 0:07:05.920 --> 0:07:07.719 it's fried. Like if you want to hoop and go 0:07:07.760 --> 0:07:12.360 to Wake, you gotta be a good student. Was Pike 0:07:12.440 --> 0:07:19.040 for fixing it great that you gotta be You damn 0:07:19.080 --> 0:07:20.600 never got to be a great ass student to go 0:07:20.640 --> 0:07:23.480 to Wake the right for real. So they're like, like 0:07:24.000 --> 0:07:26.160 it coach procedent at the time was my guy, Like 0:07:26.280 --> 0:07:29.120 I was. I was down, but it just wasn't. People 0:07:29.200 --> 0:07:33.680 shows love coach procedent, but it wasn't gonna work. It 0:07:33.800 --> 0:07:36.160 wasn't work. It wasn't going. They were like, oh, you 0:07:36.200 --> 0:07:38.160 gotta go to prop blah blah blah blah. I go 0:07:38.240 --> 0:07:40.040 to like I wasn't doing nothing of that, so I 0:07:40.120 --> 0:07:43.120 was like, yo, but it was perfect though. It actually 0:07:43.160 --> 0:07:45.880 worked out because at the time they had Matt Doherty. 0:07:47.000 --> 0:07:49.600 Matt Dougherty was the coach, and I never forget broke 0:07:50.480 --> 0:07:55.800 to this day. Raymond Felton was my brother and Rashaw 0:07:55.880 --> 0:07:58.280 mccains used to look at me every time I would 0:07:58.280 --> 0:07:59.720 go up there and they'd be like, don't come here, 0:08:00.080 --> 0:08:04.960 tass me like a ray should be like, don't come here. 0:08:05.200 --> 0:08:08.840 I swear Ray Ray felt just be like, don't come here, bro, 0:08:10.000 --> 0:08:13.120 like I swear. Bro. He literally told me not to come. 0:08:13.760 --> 0:08:18.360 You need people like like real like friends, like real friends, 0:08:18.480 --> 0:08:21.600 Like no, Bro, like this, ain't it like you've been 0:08:21.640 --> 0:08:23.800 doing a good job at Carolina right, You're gonna be 0:08:23.840 --> 0:08:27.640 real Like Matt Doherty was bad. He was only he 0:08:27.720 --> 0:08:30.600 got fired that year. The same year he got fired, 0:08:31.320 --> 0:08:40.080 he comes Roy Williams, bro, fine to listen. No in 0:08:40.120 --> 0:08:43.640 the ill story. That year we played Carolina in Denver 0:08:43.720 --> 0:08:48.400 Sweet sixteen. That was my team. I had a double double. 0:08:48.480 --> 0:08:53.160 I had fourteen to ten. We beat Carolina. Literally crying, 0:08:53.360 --> 0:08:57.200 I'm beating Carolina. I'm going crazy, shaking hands. Roy Williams, 0:08:57.200 --> 0:09:00.280 shake my hand, I'm the last person grab. It was 0:09:00.320 --> 0:09:02.800 like if I was here, you'll be here right now. 0:09:03.280 --> 0:09:06.400 Damn that meant a lot, didn't Bro. I was like 0:09:06.400 --> 0:09:09.160 a little kid. I was like a little girl. Bro, Bro, 0:09:09.600 --> 0:09:12.680 that's big crazy. Look let me ask you this, though, 0:09:12.720 --> 0:09:15.640 I got your Let me ask you this. So once 0:09:15.679 --> 0:09:22.599 you beat them, like, how you how you feel? How you? 0:09:23.640 --> 0:09:28.520 How you feel? Like? Because I played here? Right? You 0:09:28.559 --> 0:09:30.080 know what I mean? I play I didn't play here. 0:09:30.120 --> 0:09:32.800 I played I when I was a freshman, I mean sophomore. 0:09:32.800 --> 0:09:35.600 I played I you in a big teen ac challenge 0:09:35.679 --> 0:09:38.439 or whatever, and I was just hyped to play on you. 0:09:38.800 --> 0:09:41.880 Like man, it was trash, but we beat them by thirty, 0:09:42.080 --> 0:09:44.000 but I was so hype. How did I feel to 0:09:44.040 --> 0:09:48.920 play CAROLINEA though? Like I played Carolina going away? We 0:09:48.960 --> 0:09:52.840 put and I know how I feel? How that for me? 0:09:53.360 --> 0:09:56.160 Like always, like my dream was to play for Carolina. 0:09:56.559 --> 0:09:59.360 I wanted to make the NBA. The dream is to 0:09:59.400 --> 0:10:01.680 go to are you a little kid from North Carolina? 0:10:02.000 --> 0:10:04.840 The dream is to play for Carolina. Just worry about 0:10:04.840 --> 0:10:08.400 the NBA. It's about playing there. So to not do 0:10:08.480 --> 0:10:12.360 it and then to beat him, it was like that's real. 0:10:12.520 --> 0:10:14.520 Like the tournament was over me. Like I was like 0:10:15.440 --> 0:10:17.760 I'm cool, Like I'm good on everything now, Like yo, 0:10:17.840 --> 0:10:24.800 what mama say what my mom? My mom was huge 0:10:24.840 --> 0:10:27.880 Carolina fan, Michael Jordan fan, Like that's my mom the 0:10:27.920 --> 0:10:30.560 reason I hoop, Like that's all for her. It was 0:10:30.640 --> 0:10:32.160 like crazy, you know what I'm saying. So that was 0:10:32.200 --> 0:10:36.120 that was special. That's a real ship. Damn Roy gave 0:10:36.160 --> 0:10:38.880 you to not Bro. That's man to this day, still 0:10:38.920 --> 0:10:42.480 my dog. That was my squad. That's my had love. 0:10:42.559 --> 0:10:44.719 When he was like Marvel was fucking what he went 0:10:44.760 --> 0:10:51.080 to Atlanta. I said in my head, I'm just thinking, 0:10:51.120 --> 0:10:54.000 like what if p J. Tucker to North Carolina, you 0:10:54.080 --> 0:10:57.559 would have had the vault for real? Before the vault, 0:10:57.679 --> 0:11:00.400 you would have been the guy before like like you 0:11:00.440 --> 0:11:02.480 was already him. But that would have been even crazy. 0:11:02.480 --> 0:11:04.680 If you'd had them kids and what they was rocking 0:11:04.720 --> 0:11:10.240 back then, hoops you know something, Oh boy, your feet 0:11:10.280 --> 0:11:14.360 would have been oh my god. Oh okay. I got 0:11:14.360 --> 0:11:18.679 a question about Texas, like what made you choose Texas though, like, okay, 0:11:18.679 --> 0:11:20.959 you didn't go to Carolina, it's still North Carolina state. 0:11:21.360 --> 0:11:28.880 He said, wake was too hard. He still got dupe Texas. 0:11:30.840 --> 0:11:34.439 Rick Barnes, coach of Texas at the time, was from 0:11:34.640 --> 0:11:39.440 North Carolina coach clems like he got super North Carolina time, 0:11:39.559 --> 0:11:42.880 so he can't ain'tn a lot. He came in and 0:11:42.880 --> 0:11:45.360 won my mom. He came in on the visit, Bro 0:11:45.920 --> 0:11:48.040 and wiped my mom. He walked out of the house. 0:11:48.640 --> 0:11:50.559 My mom was like, you going to Texas and walked 0:11:50.559 --> 0:11:52.440 out the room and went to the bed like she 0:11:52.559 --> 0:11:55.760 was not she like he won my mom's We went 0:11:55.800 --> 0:11:58.679 on the visit. It was Bro. It wouldn't know like 0:11:59.160 --> 0:12:01.559 she made my sasion for me, Like I ain't even picked, 0:12:01.600 --> 0:12:04.960 like she picked for that's my mask because my mom 0:12:05.040 --> 0:12:10.280 made My mom had a dream, no cat, she had 0:12:10.440 --> 0:12:13.280 told me. She woke up and said, you're going away 0:12:13.360 --> 0:12:16.319 for us. I wanted to go to USC if you 0:12:16.440 --> 0:12:21.560 be honest right, because OJ was going it was turned lah, 0:12:21.960 --> 0:12:29.480 I'm going to us. Yeah, the real ones there. I'm 0:12:29.520 --> 0:12:32.840 like Todd was there. I'm like, I want My mom 0:12:32.960 --> 0:12:35.559 was like had a dream, said you're going away for us, 0:12:35.840 --> 0:12:40.440 And once your mom's mama said it was over, it 0:12:40.480 --> 0:12:42.439 was over. I ended up that way. How was it 0:12:42.480 --> 0:12:46.640 when you got there though? For me? Or Bro? When 0:12:46.679 --> 0:12:49.720 you got the text? Man they put me on the plane. 0:12:51.480 --> 0:12:56.280 I had two bags a couple hundred dollars. I am like, 0:12:56.320 --> 0:12:59.160 I had nothing for my dorm room. Bro like dead ass. 0:12:59.200 --> 0:13:02.520 I got there, I had a blanket and sheets. I 0:13:02.600 --> 0:13:06.480 have nothing, bro Like, I literally did baby like real 0:13:06.679 --> 0:13:10.679 like you are, like, I'm just real like. So it 0:13:10.760 --> 0:13:13.760 was like that first a few months was a struggle, 0:13:13.880 --> 0:13:17.280 dog like. I was like going through it like for real. 0:13:18.280 --> 0:13:23.480 And then once you started hooping and everybody like really 0:13:23.520 --> 0:13:28.080 get to know, it was like all right. It was 0:13:28.160 --> 0:13:31.120 like all right, like like once you become that guy's 0:13:31.200 --> 0:13:33.880 like again, oh yeah, that's him. Like it was like 0:13:33.920 --> 0:13:37.000 everything saw falling the place first I would say first 0:13:37.040 --> 0:13:39.600 four or five months, and then when basketball season started, 0:13:39.640 --> 0:13:42.800 it was up and never looked back. From the beginning 0:13:42.800 --> 0:13:46.720 of that. The niggas gave you some bad in the least, 0:13:47.040 --> 0:13:50.280 I'm I said it without saying it. You got to 0:13:50.280 --> 0:13:55.280 talk about game. That guy was whatever you need. That's 0:13:55.280 --> 0:14:02.839 what I wanted to apartment. I got that experience. Like 0:14:03.240 --> 0:14:07.839 you went to Texas, it's fifty thousand students. Yeah, I 0:14:07.840 --> 0:14:12.160 wouldn't screw it was five thousand students. What is that, shorty? 0:14:13.240 --> 0:14:16.720 Because you ain't never gonna ever again. Somebody, you better 0:14:16.760 --> 0:14:20.120 say something because you ain't never gonna seventy thousand people. Bro. Yeah, 0:14:20.160 --> 0:14:22.600 like it's so there you walk into class bro like that, 0:14:22.800 --> 0:14:26.080 like you like, like where am I going? Like that 0:14:26.600 --> 0:14:29.920 auditorium with six seven hundred people in it? So coming 0:14:29.960 --> 0:14:32.120 from like where you come from, Riley, you come from 0:14:32.400 --> 0:14:35.680 right at Lina? Was that like? Because I can't imagine 0:14:35.920 --> 0:14:38.080 I'm from the west side of Indianapolis. If I would 0:14:38.120 --> 0:14:39.760 have went to seventy thousand people, I don't know what 0:14:39.800 --> 0:14:46.160 I would have. Did you know it was this other 0:14:46.280 --> 0:14:54.760 hospitality hit different? Huh yea. He loved Texas. Anybody on 0:14:54.800 --> 0:14:58.560 the team, like any like sophomore, junior, senior, Like you're 0:14:58.600 --> 0:15:01.800 gonna pull you to the side. How a game? All 0:15:01.840 --> 0:15:07.560 of them? Roy Roy Ivy the reason I'm even here? 0:15:07.680 --> 0:15:12.080 Dog like he literally dog. We would go out and 0:15:12.120 --> 0:15:14.400 I'm green, like I'm super green, Like I ain't green, 0:15:14.440 --> 0:15:16.920 but I'm like green to the game like how things work. 0:15:17.480 --> 0:15:19.400 We would go out, we have fun. I'm like, oh, 0:15:19.440 --> 0:15:21.680 we want to go back. He's like, no, We're going 0:15:21.720 --> 0:15:24.120 to the gym. I practicingly just got built. So we 0:15:24.240 --> 0:15:26.040 had like the fingerprint joy you know, what I'm saying. 0:15:26.320 --> 0:15:29.040 It's like the first year, so Bro, we will lead 0:15:29.080 --> 0:15:33.680 a spot, go to gym. I'm like, what like when 0:15:33.720 --> 0:15:37.600 you're tripping, Bro, literally least sixth Street, go to arena. 0:15:37.880 --> 0:15:42.320 We're going to work out three in the morning. Damn damn. 0:15:42.760 --> 0:15:45.200 We're playing full quote one on one. We getting shots up. 0:15:45.600 --> 0:15:48.480 Hold on Bro. Like Roy was like he was he's 0:15:48.560 --> 0:15:50.600 going into a senior year. So I ain't even I'm 0:15:50.640 --> 0:15:53.480 not even peeping and really realizing he he fighting to 0:15:53.480 --> 0:15:55.680 get to the league like he fighting, like like make 0:15:55.720 --> 0:15:58.320 it happen. I'm not even peeping my freshman year. I'm 0:15:58.320 --> 0:16:00.680 coming from high school. I'm a little kid. He's trying 0:16:00.720 --> 0:16:02.920 to eat like, but I was a part of that 0:16:02.960 --> 0:16:04.600 process for him to you know what I'm saying. He 0:16:04.720 --> 0:16:07.960 used me like you know what I'm saying, He grew 0:16:08.080 --> 0:16:09.880 me and showing me at the same time, like how 0:16:09.880 --> 0:16:12.440 hard you gotta work and what it takes to get there, 0:16:12.440 --> 0:16:14.120 you know what I'm saying. So it was like we 0:16:14.400 --> 0:16:16.840 have fun, but we're gonna get on working too. Yeah, 0:16:16.880 --> 0:16:20.280 that's all that's real because he did the same thing 0:16:20.360 --> 0:16:22.440 for me, Like when I came into the NBA, he 0:16:22.560 --> 0:16:24.840 was I don't know if he was. He played for 0:16:24.840 --> 0:16:27.520 the Hawks already, but he was coming back my rookie 0:16:27.600 --> 0:16:29.800 year to be like trying for attend that. But he 0:16:29.840 --> 0:16:33.040 was giving me that same treatment. He be like, hey, y'all, 0:16:33.280 --> 0:16:35.120 you gotta be in the gym. You gotta be doing this. 0:16:35.200 --> 0:16:36.840 And it's like to see him as a coach now, 0:16:37.960 --> 0:16:41.160 it's no other way I can see him, like, hey, 0:16:41.440 --> 0:16:45.440 yeah he playing, he was a coach. Yeah he I mean, 0:16:45.600 --> 0:16:48.120 he deserved all the credit in the world because hardest 0:16:48.120 --> 0:16:52.840 work I ever know. Guy crazy, Yeah, crazy, and that's hard. 0:16:52.880 --> 0:16:54.200 Somebody like that, you know what I'm saying, set the 0:16:54.200 --> 0:16:55.600 tone for you in college. You know what I'm saying 0:16:55.600 --> 0:16:57.440 that people obviously you know who Ivy is real, who 0:16:57.640 --> 0:16:59.680 know who he was. But that's crazy that somebody set 0:16:59.680 --> 0:17:01.680 that tone for you, initiate and you with that process 0:17:01.680 --> 0:17:03.480 you are under classman. He had senior like, nah, this 0:17:03.600 --> 0:17:05.480 is a grind, Like and I'm showing you how you were. 0:17:05.560 --> 0:17:08.680 Now how did that? And patch you like that to 0:17:08.760 --> 0:17:10.840 another level? Man? What once he was going it was like, 0:17:11.880 --> 0:17:14.440 I'm the hardest worker and I'm the best player, damn. 0:17:14.760 --> 0:17:18.200 So it's like, now, ain't nobody It's like my whole 0:17:18.359 --> 0:17:21.119 like emotion towards all that shit. It's all like different 0:17:21.160 --> 0:17:24.119 now because I'm looking at dudes like I'm better than 0:17:24.160 --> 0:17:28.720 you and so I'm it's both effects. Like if we 0:17:28.800 --> 0:17:32.000 got mind you got LaMarcus as number player country coming in, fact, 0:17:32.280 --> 0:17:34.639 we give in whose top guard? Like we got we 0:17:34.760 --> 0:17:37.200 got some guys coming in. But I'm like, nah, this 0:17:37.280 --> 0:17:39.440 is mine, Like I got this like you like come on, 0:17:39.640 --> 0:17:41.080 like you know what I'm saying. And that's what kind 0:17:41.119 --> 0:17:43.760 of like built that culture, like work like because train 0:17:43.880 --> 0:17:47.359 worked LaMarcus, That's that was all built. Bro. Like all 0:17:47.400 --> 0:17:50.159 his jumpers and all the turnarounds I've seen him do. Bro. 0:17:50.280 --> 0:17:53.640 Listen here, Bro, LaMarcus hurt his hip. He hurt his hip. 0:17:53.680 --> 0:17:56.080 He was out for the season. Bro Coase Barnes got 0:17:56.160 --> 0:18:00.520 like this tall like high chair and LaMarcus I swept everything. 0:18:00.560 --> 0:18:04.639 I love. Bro. He would go on his crutches. He 0:18:04.640 --> 0:18:06.920 would sit there in the chair with a with a 0:18:07.400 --> 0:18:10.480 with an assistant. He would just shoot that hog release 0:18:10.600 --> 0:18:14.719 joint he got. Yeah, Bro, I swept one hand, two hand, Bro, 0:18:14.880 --> 0:18:17.840 I set. I've seen the Marcus for hours. Bro, I've 0:18:17.920 --> 0:18:20.040 never in my life. Bro, he was sitting that chair 0:18:20.880 --> 0:18:23.240 he was out for like eight nine months. Bro, he 0:18:23.280 --> 0:18:25.720 was out for like a year for a while. Brou 0:18:26.160 --> 0:18:29.840 he came back like it was over number one pick. 0:18:30.000 --> 0:18:33.119 It should have been number one pick, giving him blues. 0:18:33.359 --> 0:18:38.480 Marcus like about you, nigga, you didn't play with some 0:18:39.040 --> 0:18:43.800 of them won, But what's crazy like people don't give 0:18:43.840 --> 0:18:47.240 you your credit when you was at Texas bro Ye, 0:18:47.320 --> 0:18:55.480 it was nast. I stay years b C I'd be 0:18:55.560 --> 0:18:58.120 having to tell people like Bro, the NBA would dumb 0:18:58.160 --> 0:19:02.600 you down a little bit. Bro, you nasty. I used 0:19:02.600 --> 0:19:04.920 to play with you on Marsh Madness. Bro, you was 0:19:05.040 --> 0:19:08.680 crazy matters. I haven't talking about it. No, you was 0:19:09.080 --> 0:19:13.440 your Marsh Madness, but your handles was weakly. I used 0:19:13.440 --> 0:19:16.879 to go black dog, but you not on my not 0:19:17.000 --> 0:19:23.520 on my Marsh Madness. You was as black God. Damn, 0:19:23.560 --> 0:19:27.760 we gotta make this nigga sinner. He gonna give me 0:19:27.840 --> 0:19:30.639 a double double. Used can't bring this bitch average a 0:19:30.680 --> 0:19:33.480 double double. That's a given. I'm saying that was the 0:19:33.560 --> 0:19:41.359 only thing that yeah five on God. Now for real, Bro, 0:19:42.400 --> 0:19:45.439 I got a home boy named Lewis Bro named Louke Bro. 0:19:45.520 --> 0:19:48.720 He used to be like PJ. Tucker. Oh used to 0:19:48.800 --> 0:19:51.640 be like I used to like I was a fan 0:19:51.720 --> 0:19:54.239 of like ho keen Wards and like random mass nig 0:19:54.440 --> 0:20:00.399 like Jerry mcnamary mellow I was a Syracuse man. Texas 0:20:00.480 --> 0:20:03.280 got them dogs. And then as I'm like, damn, PJ. 0:20:03.440 --> 0:20:06.160 Tucker really be killing. But to see how you play 0:20:06.200 --> 0:20:08.879 in college and then people who don't know ball like 0:20:09.000 --> 0:20:11.360 that to watch you in the NBA, they won't realize, 0:20:11.400 --> 0:20:13.720 like you was a train killer, why we play him? 0:20:13.920 --> 0:20:16.200 Like what like what do we we're giving the money for? 0:20:17.040 --> 0:20:20.960 You're the train killer? Bro? It's what they say really 0:20:21.359 --> 0:20:23.560 as Jeff bro, I ain't know not here like I 0:20:23.720 --> 0:20:26.280 keep it a thousand, Bro, I really like that, Like 0:20:27.160 --> 0:20:29.240 if people don't know like you, like it's a job, 0:20:29.359 --> 0:20:32.440 dog like this, this is a job. This ain't you 0:20:32.560 --> 0:20:35.600 catch me and pick up? It's a whole nother different 0:20:35.720 --> 0:20:38.800 energy like dudes on Instagram like then I'll bust like yo, 0:20:40.200 --> 0:20:45.560 relax my guy. By sometimes you gotta go back and 0:20:45.680 --> 0:20:48.800 like they gotta go back and look bro Texas, bro, 0:20:48.960 --> 0:20:55.640 you you was like three. I actually only played half 0:20:55.640 --> 0:20:58.040 because I got played on the team for we're gonna 0:20:58.040 --> 0:21:05.399 talk about that little thing, yeah, and then we got 0:21:05.480 --> 0:21:08.280 it right back the Texas I love, but even shit, 0:21:08.640 --> 0:21:10.600 I'm a YouTube fanatics, so I know how to recall 0:21:10.640 --> 0:21:12.879 Hans what niggas know. It's different when you and there. 0:21:13.000 --> 0:21:14.639 This ain't this ain't I ma ain't feel you. Bro, 0:21:14.720 --> 0:21:16.440 I get this bitch and carry your ass up. Don't 0:21:16.520 --> 0:21:20.680 don't sleep. I'm a professor. Please please don't get it 0:21:21.520 --> 0:21:29.520 like we can really get it. We can get it 0:21:32.200 --> 0:21:39.200 the fact, give me the ball. I can't get the ball. 0:21:42.560 --> 0:21:44.080 We go get to that. But I got a question 0:21:44.160 --> 0:21:45.520 for you as in Texas. You know what I'm saying, 0:21:45.560 --> 0:21:47.920 Texas basketball is cracker. Obviously y'all had a fucking whip. 0:21:48.080 --> 0:21:49.760 But at the same time, you know, the Texas books 0:21:49.760 --> 0:21:52.000 just care about that Texas football. How was that in 0:21:52.080 --> 0:21:54.639 comparison going between that, Like y'all was them niggas, but 0:21:54.720 --> 0:21:57.760 y'all still had to deal with Texas football. Man, they 0:21:57.960 --> 0:22:01.120 just won that championship to sir Twisted, Oh you had 0:22:01.200 --> 0:22:04.119 a vision, bro, That's that's what made that. That's what 0:22:04.280 --> 0:22:07.920 made that dynamic cool. Like that was one time well 0:22:07.960 --> 0:22:10.840 hoops and football like was like this because me and 0:22:11.000 --> 0:22:13.240 Vince like this, this my dog. That's my brother. To 0:22:13.320 --> 0:22:16.240 this day, that's my brother. Yea. It was like we 0:22:16.400 --> 0:22:20.680 all rocking together, like we had like everybody like it 0:22:20.840 --> 0:22:22.520 was like we all rocked together. So it was like 0:22:22.680 --> 0:22:24.880 one mob bro. So we used to like go out 0:22:24.920 --> 0:22:27.359 to hang together. It was like it was like movies. 0:22:27.440 --> 0:22:29.320 Every time you catch us, like it was wild, like 0:22:29.400 --> 0:22:32.080 Austin during that time. I don't know if we're the 0:22:32.160 --> 0:22:34.520 first school, but we're one of the first schools to 0:22:34.560 --> 0:22:38.040 ever be preseason number one and basketball, baseball and football. 0:22:38.359 --> 0:22:42.680 That's tough. Six. How was the vibes on canvas with that, 0:22:44.320 --> 0:22:51.639 because I'm thinking about together, yo yo yo vibes. Austin 0:22:51.760 --> 0:22:55.480 was insane, brost already a great city, but for y'all 0:22:55.560 --> 0:23:00.600 have one one one and the major sports. The street 0:23:01.080 --> 0:23:03.320 was that his baseball there, he was the picture. He 0:23:03.400 --> 0:23:05.359 was about to go number one, like it was. I 0:23:05.480 --> 0:23:08.639 was cracking it was. It was crazy. And watching them 0:23:08.640 --> 0:23:11.480 win the rose Bolt like that was wild. Watching them 0:23:11.520 --> 0:23:14.960 winnow that's enough. That's a moment to find it for 0:23:14.960 --> 0:23:16.320 a lot of people in our airs grip. Like I 0:23:16.480 --> 0:23:20.040 remember watching that USC Texas National championship and I still 0:23:20.040 --> 0:23:24.320 don't know why Reggie Busher that, Reggie, I'm so happy, 0:23:24.480 --> 0:23:31.720 thank you. Reggie was supposed to win. Everybody was rooting 0:23:31.720 --> 0:23:39.680 against I was. I wasn't respect official he was a guy, 0:23:39.720 --> 0:23:41.600 But Reggie Bush was that nig He was the first. 0:23:43.760 --> 0:23:50.399 I was just dancing, bro, like I this this bro, 0:23:51.119 --> 0:23:57.880 this high should I want to do this? I should 0:23:57.920 --> 0:24:00.600 have won with you. I know that that's your man. 0:24:01.359 --> 0:24:08.320 I ain't shut up like the highlights like he's the 0:24:08.480 --> 0:24:12.720 greatest total fucking college football player ever, PJ. He's the greatest. 0:24:13.680 --> 0:24:17.040 Reggie Bush is the greatest college football player ever. He 0:24:17.160 --> 0:24:19.760 went for five. I want to talk about it. Game ever, 0:24:20.800 --> 0:24:23.879 elite mix tapes Both Jackson. I don't even know. You 0:24:23.960 --> 0:24:26.960 don't know? Are you disrespect We wasn't watching bout Jackson 0:24:28.240 --> 0:24:31.600 is the best score ever in the NBOD. I wasn't. 0:24:31.640 --> 0:24:34.399 I'm not as old as you like. How old are you? 0:24:34.560 --> 0:24:37.360 Like you said, we're not watching both Jackson? We went? 0:24:37.480 --> 0:24:39.720 We didn't, nigga, you didn't grow up watching fucking bout 0:24:39.800 --> 0:24:42.480 Jackson runabout like you did Reggie Bush. You saw more 0:24:42.600 --> 0:24:46.480 Reggie Bush than you did about you ain't you ain't nigga? 0:24:46.640 --> 0:24:51.440 You ain't Dominique wickas age. Nigga? We did you? PJ. Tucker, 0:24:51.520 --> 0:24:56.560 No watching Barry sad Brown. Yeah you you ain't PJ Brown? 0:25:01.560 --> 0:25:12.359 What respect? Respect nigga? Thirty eight? Listen, you are watching 0:25:12.640 --> 0:25:20.160 about Jacks Wake was watching very sad, watching like Reggie Bush. 0:25:20.200 --> 0:25:22.760 I thought Reggie Bush was nice the god, but this 0:25:23.000 --> 0:25:31.639 your nigga. But I didn't have five that was I 0:25:31.760 --> 0:25:37.960 wish you would have won Heisman. He did. Allegations, allegation 0:25:39.800 --> 0:25:44.640 they took it away. Alright, cool, it's a great transition. Absolutely, 0:25:44.720 --> 0:25:48.080 let's see your motherfucker for that. Yeah, hiding away. I'm 0:25:48.119 --> 0:25:51.960 still hot. I'm still hot, all right. So look, you 0:25:52.119 --> 0:25:56.119 go from Texas doing killing. Let's not get fucked up. 0:25:56.119 --> 0:26:00.320 You was killing when the draft come. Do you like 0:26:00.840 --> 0:26:02.720 you expected to be a first round My draft was 0:26:02.920 --> 0:26:06.119 trash too. I ain't gonna hold you. Our draft is 0:26:06.119 --> 0:26:09.320 one of the worse, like it is, it's raided one 0:26:09.320 --> 0:26:12.320 of the worst, damn. So I literally was sitting there 0:26:12.440 --> 0:26:17.600 like I could tem I know, I'm going, yeah, all right, 0:26:18.280 --> 0:26:27.320 next one, you know, like yeah, I know the draft 0:26:27.440 --> 0:26:31.560 is different, Like the draft is like that real, like yeah, 0:26:31.920 --> 0:26:35.760 like that's just different. It really is. And you can 0:26:36.480 --> 0:26:39.840 it's funny like even now, like I still went to 0:26:39.920 --> 0:26:41.840 this day like you couldn't tell me like right now 0:26:42.160 --> 0:26:45.480 back then the shooting in like this and like it's 0:26:45.480 --> 0:26:47.080 just be like two people from my class to the 0:26:47.160 --> 0:26:48.920 league and I'll be one of them. Yeah, Like I've 0:26:48.920 --> 0:26:52.760 been like y'all get the Like, sup, that's hard. That's hard. 0:26:52.800 --> 0:26:57.480 You know how crazy? Wow it is? It's wild, it 0:26:57.560 --> 0:26:59.720 really is. And the way it happened, like you know, 0:27:00.040 --> 0:27:03.920 being out come back like like all coming on the 0:27:04.000 --> 0:27:06.960 back end of it, like yeah, not giving up because 0:27:06.960 --> 0:27:09.000 it was like I tried to give up a couple 0:27:09.000 --> 0:27:10.760 of times, Like I really was like yeah, I'm done, 0:27:10.880 --> 0:27:14.760 Like I'm done. Yeah, I tell you your rookie year 0:27:14.760 --> 0:27:17.639 you with Toronto. Yes, sir, I'd never forget were on 0:27:17.760 --> 0:27:20.840 a bus. You got one of the most fire stories. 0:27:20.960 --> 0:27:24.280 I feel like, the most inspirational stories ever. Like he 0:27:24.440 --> 0:27:28.040 told me a story that made me feel like, damn, 0:27:29.280 --> 0:27:30.920 I wish I would have heard that story when I 0:27:31.040 --> 0:27:32.920 was in my first second year. You know what I'm saying, 0:27:34.600 --> 0:27:36.480 Would you be able to tell us a story about 0:27:37.960 --> 0:27:40.399 I would really tell it? Because all right, So he 0:27:40.520 --> 0:27:43.120 tells me a story about Toronto. We own a bus, 0:27:43.720 --> 0:27:44.919 him in the back of the bus and he's like, Yo, 0:27:45.000 --> 0:27:47.960 you know what's crazy, bro? When I was in Toronto, 0:27:49.040 --> 0:27:51.480 I thought I was a ship. He's like, yo, I 0:27:51.560 --> 0:27:53.720 had this house, I had a penhouse, I was living. 0:27:53.760 --> 0:27:58.000 I was doing this and I wasn't playing like that. 0:27:58.240 --> 0:28:01.680 But I wasn't working that hard. And they had a camp. 0:28:01.760 --> 0:28:05.960 They had a basically a cam corder, recorded me in 0:28:06.080 --> 0:28:08.520 my workouts and doing shit that I was doing, and 0:28:08.600 --> 0:28:10.359 they basically pulled me in the office and showed me 0:28:10.440 --> 0:28:12.159 what I was doing, how I wasn't working, how I 0:28:12.280 --> 0:28:17.639 wasn't doing this, and he got cut. And to know that. 0:28:18.200 --> 0:28:19.520 If I would have knew that when I was in 0:28:19.600 --> 0:28:22.119 my first second year, I would have liked, if people 0:28:22.280 --> 0:28:26.720 do that, I would have carried myself totally different, even 0:28:26.760 --> 0:28:29.080 though I wasn't fucked up. But I would have been like, 0:28:29.280 --> 0:28:32.320 damn because I respected him, Like I see him at Texas. 0:28:32.760 --> 0:28:35.000 He did more ship at Texas? How did that way 0:28:35.080 --> 0:28:36.840 for us? Yeah? You know what I mean. So I'm like, 0:28:37.520 --> 0:28:39.479 if I would have heard that for a young guy now, 0:28:39.800 --> 0:28:42.960 I would love for him to tell it because different 0:28:43.080 --> 0:28:49.040 I like you, because it's like you can like I 0:28:49.160 --> 0:28:51.360 tell this story so many times, even the young guys now, 0:28:51.920 --> 0:28:53.880 and you can respect it and understand it because you 0:28:53.960 --> 0:28:56.400 can look at it in hindsight. But guy's in a 0:28:56.440 --> 0:29:00.440 position now with all the podcasting each talking about it 0:29:00.440 --> 0:29:02.440 a little bit like they get it, so they try 0:29:02.480 --> 0:29:04.000 to listen to a little bit more. But it's like 0:29:05.800 --> 0:29:09.360 until it happened to you, that shit don't hit it, 0:29:09.440 --> 0:29:12.200 don't hit like really high, like that stomach. You know 0:29:12.240 --> 0:29:14.000 what I'm saying, When that stomach drop, when you ain't 0:29:14.000 --> 0:29:18.160 got no job and at least something on that penthouse 0:29:18.240 --> 0:29:20.240 and you ain't got no check and you you ain't 0:29:20.320 --> 0:29:23.200 you get your mom, your mom mortgages, you bought that 0:29:23.280 --> 0:29:26.520 new h that crib like it's like that shit hit different, 0:29:26.680 --> 0:29:29.400 like it really do. And then from a basketball standpoint, 0:29:29.880 --> 0:29:34.440 you like so high on being that guy right like 0:29:34.560 --> 0:29:39.040 you like like I'm all American, Like I'm him, Like, yo, 0:29:39.120 --> 0:29:41.520 what are we talking? Hold up? Like, Oh, i ain't 0:29:41.520 --> 0:29:43.560 gonna something in the night, all right, I've been ready tomorrow. 0:29:45.080 --> 0:29:47.760 Oh oh, I'm not stubbing it. So now I'm not 0:29:47.880 --> 0:29:51.240 working because I'm like, yo, I'm him, y'all not playing me. 0:29:52.120 --> 0:29:54.440 It's it's the trickle down the ball that like. And 0:29:54.520 --> 0:29:57.800 then on the end and slept that like and that's 0:29:57.840 --> 0:30:02.360 how you've been working Yeah, it's like at some moments, 0:30:02.360 --> 0:30:08.000 it's like it's either you're gonna be like not the 0:30:08.120 --> 0:30:11.959 same for me, it's they fault, or you're gonna be like, Yo, 0:30:12.960 --> 0:30:15.360 I ain't shit bro, like I'm really on some bullshit. 0:30:16.080 --> 0:30:18.680 And that's like the changes like that that intersection where 0:30:18.680 --> 0:30:21.080 it's like you're gonna go that way and blame them 0:30:21.160 --> 0:30:23.320 and not stand up and be a man and you 0:30:23.360 --> 0:30:24.840 know what I'm saying, or you're gonna be like, Yo, 0:30:24.880 --> 0:30:28.520 I'm on bullshit. I gotta get my shit together. What 0:30:28.720 --> 0:30:31.080 you do? What? Like? What was you What was your 0:30:31.120 --> 0:30:33.480 reaction when you saw that ship though? Like, bro, I 0:30:33.560 --> 0:30:35.320 feel like shit, Bro, that's the worst moment of my 0:30:35.400 --> 0:30:37.800 life to this day. Yeah, I've never there's anohing that 0:30:37.880 --> 0:30:40.640 can talk there because you talk all this shit. Yeah, 0:30:40.800 --> 0:30:42.360 you with your boys, you're like you know what it 0:30:42.520 --> 0:30:45.080 is like you like, yeah, give me the ball, like 0:30:45.160 --> 0:30:48.680 I'm here like only shit and then to watch yourself, 0:30:48.760 --> 0:30:51.440 you're like, yo, I ain't ship, bro, Like I'm really 0:30:51.480 --> 0:30:54.440 a bad person, Like I'm really like I'm faking shit, 0:30:54.600 --> 0:30:57.920 Like I'm really fake. That changed your whole everything. It 0:30:58.000 --> 0:31:01.120 changed my life. That should changed my life. Yeah, that 0:31:01.280 --> 0:31:02.880 was some ship. Though, and you gotta look back to 0:31:03.080 --> 0:31:06.040 Roya was trying to show you. He showed me that's 0:31:06.080 --> 0:31:08.280 what makes it real because he like, yo, look we 0:31:08.520 --> 0:31:11.760 in here, like we're in here, we here on the 0:31:11.920 --> 0:31:14.640 number one, number one team in the count. You starting 0:31:14.680 --> 0:31:17.720 guard like he he in there. I've seen him do it. 0:31:17.840 --> 0:31:20.920 That's crazy. Yeah, but that's what the league due though, 0:31:21.600 --> 0:31:25.240 that's the league. Now I'm getting checked. Now you think 0:31:25.280 --> 0:31:28.320 you made it right? Now you now you made it right? 0:31:28.480 --> 0:31:31.400 All right? First deal? You feel like I got that 0:31:31.520 --> 0:31:37.040 new escalator. Listen, man, my mom, crib no man, ain't 0:31:37.080 --> 0:31:42.560 nothing nobody can tell me. Relaxed, no start, that's shit going. 0:31:43.440 --> 0:31:46.080 I was like, yo, know all that little check you're 0:31:46.080 --> 0:31:49.360 just that's going already. Yeah, So what happened after you 0:31:49.480 --> 0:31:52.600 did that? After that happened? What was the next step 0:31:52.680 --> 0:31:55.680 for you? I was out. I was gonna say the Europe. 0:31:56.440 --> 0:32:00.600 I was out. I didn't even waits Cleveland, bunch of calls. 0:32:00.680 --> 0:32:02.760 I was going on. I already signed a deal. I 0:32:02.840 --> 0:32:05.000 was like, yeah, I'm going over. Sam Mitchell was like yo. 0:32:05.440 --> 0:32:08.040 And sam Mitchell was a blessing too because he had 0:32:08.040 --> 0:32:10.920 already played, you know, he played in Europe. Boo came back. 0:32:11.640 --> 0:32:13.800 He was like, yo, you go to Europe. He's like, 0:32:13.920 --> 0:32:15.320 I'm telling he's gonna be the best thing that ever ever. 0:32:15.920 --> 0:32:18.280 Damn mind you, he's my NBA coach. I'm looking at 0:32:18.320 --> 0:32:23.959 him like, man, what man can be all the way 0:32:24.600 --> 0:32:27.920 looking at him like, yo, ain't no way. He told 0:32:27.960 --> 0:32:30.120 me that should like it was like February that year. 0:32:30.160 --> 0:32:32.080 It was super like early in the year, and I'm 0:32:32.120 --> 0:32:33.680 looking like, man, we're in the NBA, bro, like, what 0:32:33.760 --> 0:32:38.160 are you talking about? Dead ass? That's as soon as 0:32:38.160 --> 0:32:41.520 that should happened in our head. Boom we out signed 0:32:41.520 --> 0:32:45.280 to Israel. Damn the best thing I ever did. How 0:32:45.440 --> 0:32:51.680 was that amazing? They say Israel like israels like Miami, 0:32:51.960 --> 0:32:57.240 New York in Europe like that. It's like that my 0:32:57.320 --> 0:33:00.400 little brother with the Israel. He told me what stuff 0:33:00.400 --> 0:33:02.920 you see on TV on CNN, it ain't nothing like that, 0:33:03.040 --> 0:33:05.200 I'm telling you right now. So as you lands like 0:33:05.240 --> 0:33:11.840 New York City on the oh, this nigga he always 0:33:11.920 --> 0:33:15.400 he always out of pocket. All right, the warfare too, 0:33:15.800 --> 0:33:18.200 that's cracking over there. Then be the same ones be 0:33:18.320 --> 0:33:21.720 like get over there, be like hey boy, coming back 0:33:22.840 --> 0:33:28.320 and mom on the phone. So you go, you go 0:33:28.440 --> 0:33:31.920 to Israel. How long do you stay overseas? And like 0:33:32.280 --> 0:33:35.360 because you was overseas, you was you was killing I 0:33:35.480 --> 0:33:38.320 was killing Brow. You was him overseas. Like bro, that's 0:33:38.440 --> 0:33:41.360 and this is why I'm talking about, Like that ship 0:33:41.720 --> 0:33:44.760 made me who I am now? Okay, because being the 0:33:44.800 --> 0:33:47.280 man and like winning chips and winning vps and like 0:33:47.400 --> 0:33:49.000 really going at it like I want that year, I 0:33:49.080 --> 0:33:53.840 want both? Uh you after that winning VP by winn 0:33:53.880 --> 0:33:57.040 the chip? We lost some chip? Like it like being 0:33:57.080 --> 0:33:59.360 the guy makes you understand what it takes to be 0:33:59.600 --> 0:34:02.760 the guy the guy needs. Damn that's a bar know 0:34:02.800 --> 0:34:04.760 what I'm saying. I might say that again, b yeah, 0:34:04.880 --> 0:34:07.560 like really it really is like and that being the 0:34:07.600 --> 0:34:10.680 guy over there made me like mold, like who I 0:34:11.000 --> 0:34:13.120 who I am now and who I've been over the 0:34:13.239 --> 0:34:16.920 last six seven years. It's like really understanding that right, 0:34:17.080 --> 0:34:19.200 Like I had some of the most amazing ROW guys 0:34:19.239 --> 0:34:22.640 on my team over the years. And get back in 0:34:22.680 --> 0:34:25.840 the league and building myself again, it was like, oh, 0:34:25.920 --> 0:34:28.080 I know how, I know exactly how to do that, 0:34:28.280 --> 0:34:31.120 Like that's easy. Yeah, but what was the process getting 0:34:31.160 --> 0:34:33.200 back to the league. I mean, going overseas and then 0:34:34.280 --> 0:34:36.960 being a star like a lot of people like I 0:34:37.040 --> 0:34:41.239 see Shane Larkin, Yeah, but he don't want to come 0:34:41.320 --> 0:34:43.800 back to the league. And I didn't either. I just 0:34:43.880 --> 0:34:46.239 signed a huge deal, like I didn't. I wasn't trying 0:34:46.280 --> 0:34:48.680 to come back. I did ask. I was done. Bro, 0:34:49.160 --> 0:34:51.640 I'm seeing you know, I'm seeing all these do sign 0:34:51.680 --> 0:34:54.279 these deals. I'm like, I'm like, man, I'm cool on 0:34:54.360 --> 0:34:56.239 that ship, like for real, Like I'm good, Like I'm 0:34:56.280 --> 0:34:59.239 over here, built myself up. I signed this huge deal. 0:34:59.360 --> 0:35:01.600 I'm like, I'm good. I had an NBA out to 0:35:01.719 --> 0:35:06.920 August fifteen, Summarly Phoenix offered me to do and I 0:35:07.040 --> 0:35:10.120 was like, no, I'm good. Damn. I was like I'm good. 0:35:10.239 --> 0:35:14.000 I'm like I'm good. He's like, nah, yo, you like 0:35:15.280 --> 0:35:17.000 you're tripping, Like no, this is it. I'm like, no, 0:35:17.120 --> 0:35:18.440 I'm good, Like I don't want to do it. They 0:35:18.680 --> 0:35:21.640 literally had to talk me into it, bro, Damn, Like 0:35:21.719 --> 0:35:23.520 how you like that sounds crazy? Right? You're like, yo, 0:35:23.560 --> 0:35:27.080 you're lying, like talked me into like sign it back 0:35:27.080 --> 0:35:30.960 with the NBA. Nah. I understand the ground of the 0:35:31.120 --> 0:35:34.120 NBA and how you can go from being so high 0:35:34.160 --> 0:35:39.440 oversea star being that guy you back in the ground 0:35:39.480 --> 0:35:42.920 of being nobody. It's like I'm everything over there. Yea, 0:35:43.239 --> 0:35:47.640 that's over there going crazy. Let's see if statues, you know, 0:35:47.719 --> 0:35:53.759 I mean like it's it's crazy. Yeah, no statues for real. Real. 0:35:54.640 --> 0:35:59.920 It's different. It's different besides your Asian forcing it. I'm 0:36:00.160 --> 0:36:02.759 the NBA is always a dream. So DIDAD come back 0:36:02.760 --> 0:36:05.920 into your head? Like, yo, I still don't think I 0:36:06.000 --> 0:36:08.279 was gonna what happened and it happening. I still don't 0:36:08.400 --> 0:36:11.279 think I was going like the money I did and 0:36:11.400 --> 0:36:13.040 do all that, Like I still don't see all that. 0:36:13.280 --> 0:36:15.879 I ain't see it yet. So when you're signed back 0:36:15.920 --> 0:36:18.399 with the Phoenix, what was your vibe like just being 0:36:18.400 --> 0:36:19.879 able to get on the court. I was like, yuays, 0:36:19.920 --> 0:36:22.080 you want to play? Mind you? Mike Beasley just signed 0:36:22.120 --> 0:36:24.479 like it's a bunch of wings. They just signed West 0:36:25.680 --> 0:36:27.879 like it was a bunch of guys. It's a good team, 0:36:27.960 --> 0:36:30.880 like solid team. So it's like, yo, here we go. 0:36:31.480 --> 0:36:35.960 But I'd already like implemented like the grind, like I 0:36:36.080 --> 0:36:40.160 had already like been all that stuff from from like 0:36:40.239 --> 0:36:42.960 I was already So when I got there, it was 0:36:43.040 --> 0:36:46.840 like I was on. So it was like, yeah, I 0:36:47.000 --> 0:36:50.160 know you. It was different because we're competing against you, right, 0:36:50.560 --> 0:36:55.320 So when you came in, Mike Beasley number two picks posted, 0:36:55.400 --> 0:36:57.160 you know, supposed to be that guy. When we competed 0:36:57.160 --> 0:36:59.000 against you, it was like, Yo, don't bring PJ up 0:36:59.000 --> 0:37:01.440 in the picking row, Like, don't bring him up like 0:37:01.480 --> 0:37:03.920 he about to play hardest, Like get the other nigga 0:37:03.960 --> 0:37:05.719 up here, Like, don't bring him up in pick he 0:37:05.719 --> 0:37:07.719 about the guard the ship out. You and I could 0:37:07.760 --> 0:37:09.800 tell the energy and the effort you was playing with, 0:37:10.280 --> 0:37:12.839 but you could tell like, yo, I'm playing for something, right, 0:37:13.160 --> 0:37:15.520 Like I'm playing for my life. Like it's different. You know, 0:37:17.239 --> 0:37:19.000 it's different when you get them kind of guys, it's 0:37:19.040 --> 0:37:21.680 like really fighting for their life, like I don't know 0:37:21.719 --> 0:37:23.600 if I'm gonna be here, and and I'll respect the 0:37:23.640 --> 0:37:25.239 Bees like Bees is one of the best players I've 0:37:25.280 --> 0:37:30.080 ever had in my life. Cold literally would destroy me 0:37:30.160 --> 0:37:39.040 in practice daily. Cold Oh god, my high school. At college, 0:37:39.080 --> 0:37:44.520 he was getting forty and you know James, we went 0:37:44.560 --> 0:37:47.160 to his college game. They played with same state. Yeah, 0:37:47.280 --> 0:37:51.680 forty and twenty different. You know, it's crazy. Back in 0:37:51.719 --> 0:37:53.600 that time period, it wasn't too crazy. Who was going 0:37:53.640 --> 0:37:56.279 over one between Bees and d rows niggas forgetting real. 0:37:56.480 --> 0:37:59.919 It was real close, it was, and I was picking big, 0:38:03.239 --> 0:38:08.160 he was getting forty. You know, I was still Rose still. 0:38:08.719 --> 0:38:11.120 He was rob Bill Walker fan though, yeah, fu with 0:38:11.520 --> 0:38:16.920 but I knew. I knew all about huh huh, No 0:38:18.520 --> 0:38:21.640 you said you was more. I don't know, he's doing 0:38:21.719 --> 0:38:24.640 too much. What I'm saying Bill, Bill Walker played, I'm 0:38:24.680 --> 0:38:33.239 going like fires, he's trying to be but directed just 0:38:33.280 --> 0:38:35.600 trying to I'm little with the lighter fla, just saying 0:38:35.600 --> 0:38:38.040 I know what to know. Shout out to my nigga, Bill, 0:38:39.120 --> 0:38:45.439 don't do that. But Mike Beasley first Rose, I'm just saying, 0:38:45.480 --> 0:38:48.719 give me Derek Rose. I'm not wrong. Listen, it was 0:38:51.440 --> 0:39:02.160 my favorite top five. Oh my god, listens, let's get back. 0:39:03.200 --> 0:39:05.719 How was your st in Phoenix though? How was that 0:39:05.960 --> 0:39:09.480 like for you? Everything? It's really because it was the 0:39:09.760 --> 0:39:14.239 opportunity meets timing, Like it was like the priv time 0:39:14.320 --> 0:39:16.440 in my career and I was ready for it, and 0:39:16.600 --> 0:39:20.680 it was like it was really like my rookie year, 0:39:20.800 --> 0:39:22.799 like it's how it should have been, what I'm saying, 0:39:22.880 --> 0:39:24.880 and that's how I took it. It was like I 0:39:24.960 --> 0:39:27.840 don't even counting that, Like that was still like whatever like, 0:39:27.960 --> 0:39:30.320 this is it right here? And that's how I carried 0:39:30.360 --> 0:39:34.680 it every game, bro, Like I really like like took 0:39:34.680 --> 0:39:36.600 control of it, you know what I'm saying. And I 0:39:36.719 --> 0:39:39.400 had the right coach of staff, like it was perfect, bro. 0:39:39.600 --> 0:39:43.480 And then like real talk from being fifteen man in 0:39:43.560 --> 0:39:48.480 August when I signed, I was starting on thirty first damn. 0:39:48.719 --> 0:39:50.400 And I ain't. Look I've been starting ever since. How 0:39:50.440 --> 0:39:53.680 you earned that ship? You know what's crazy? I don't 0:39:53.680 --> 0:39:56.080 know what year this was for my Phoenix, but the 0:39:56.360 --> 0:40:01.480 W Hotel was popping, fucking this is my Nigga. We 0:40:01.600 --> 0:40:08.400 gonna talk W Hotel popping me. A couple of the 0:40:08.520 --> 0:40:12.560 guys pull up. They're like, yo, you've seen PJ Tucker whip. 0:40:14.280 --> 0:40:17.040 I'm like, who, sir? I'm like, who who got the 0:40:17.640 --> 0:40:20.440 They like PJ Tucker. I'm like, I ain't see it. 0:40:20.760 --> 0:40:27.000 They like, go out. Nigga had a Mercedes. But what's 0:40:27.080 --> 0:40:29.399 the ship? You know what I'm talking about? What's the one? 0:40:30.040 --> 0:40:37.840 The bro? He had a Mercedes. Nigga's like, go outside. 0:40:38.840 --> 0:40:42.560 The wings is up? I go outside. It's him the wings. 0:40:42.680 --> 0:40:45.319 I'm like, who is he? They like, oh, he went 0:40:45.400 --> 0:40:49.000 overseas and guys, millions. He came back this light paper 0:40:49.080 --> 0:40:52.520 where he how much getting they got me thinking about 0:40:52.560 --> 0:40:56.160 going over Sam like they get how much over seas? 0:40:56.200 --> 0:40:58.960 He's like yeah he got damn Like damn you that 0:40:59.160 --> 0:41:08.840 going over? Yeah, I'm the guy. Bro. That was my 0:41:09.040 --> 0:41:12.680 first time ever seen and I'm like, Yo, that car crazy. 0:41:12.760 --> 0:41:15.399 I never seen that ship. That was different too because 0:41:15.400 --> 0:41:17.759 I came back. I know I had anything, you know 0:41:17.760 --> 0:41:19.760 what I'm saying. So it was like it's different. Everybody's 0:41:19.760 --> 0:41:23.719 looking at me like like where you come from? Yeah, 0:41:23.760 --> 0:41:27.719 that shit was was crazy. I'm outside like nigga, it's 0:41:27.840 --> 0:41:30.800 niggas that's been in the league with hundreds of millions 0:41:30.840 --> 0:41:34.439 talking about this nigga car and I'm like, shut the tone. Yeah. 0:41:34.840 --> 0:41:37.719 And to know him now, it's like I get it. 0:41:38.120 --> 0:41:40.239 I get it now, I know him as I get it. 0:41:41.640 --> 0:41:44.960 But to go for Phoenix, you know, had a success 0:41:45.000 --> 0:41:48.360 that you had playing, but to start seeing young dudes 0:41:48.640 --> 0:41:54.600 like TJ, Devin Booker and them to call you the og, 0:41:56.080 --> 0:42:00.720 Like how that feels that shit was different because you instantly, 0:42:00.840 --> 0:42:04.200 like I instantly become og like without a lot of 0:42:04.440 --> 0:42:08.200 like NBA years. Yeah, right, Like it's like because they 0:42:08.320 --> 0:42:10.359 respect like they with me every day, so they see 0:42:10.400 --> 0:42:12.560 how hard I work and all that stuff and how 0:42:12.600 --> 0:42:16.279 I've been around. But it's like I'm around and you 0:42:16.360 --> 0:42:20.200 know I'm around, So I like directly relate to them 0:42:20.239 --> 0:42:22.040 and they're like yo, like you know what I'm saying. 0:42:22.040 --> 0:42:24.120 I'm taking them to dinner. I'm like I'm doing I'm 0:42:24.200 --> 0:42:27.560 doing everything, and they around me and to be og, 0:42:27.719 --> 0:42:29.520 It's like I wasn't even looking at it like that 0:42:29.719 --> 0:42:32.440 for real, like especially in the beginning, like like especially 0:42:32.520 --> 0:42:35.680 like the book years, I didn't look at it like that, 0:42:36.080 --> 0:42:38.080 you know what I'm saying. Like, so now even to 0:42:38.239 --> 0:42:40.680 like he's still with every time, like we talked, like 0:42:40.760 --> 0:42:45.840 I'll be like, bro, like that's hard know you and 0:42:46.000 --> 0:42:48.719 play on the team with you, like you got the 0:42:49.080 --> 0:42:51.360 type of energy that make you like fun with you. 0:42:51.520 --> 0:42:53.719 Like like even just being on the podcast now, we 0:42:53.840 --> 0:42:58.600 all been joking for hours before, so you feel his energy. 0:42:58.800 --> 0:43:00.839 But like to be with that around that every day, 0:43:01.160 --> 0:43:03.919 I can see how young guy be like yeah, yeah, 0:43:03.920 --> 0:43:05.360 I want to learn from him because I see how 0:43:05.400 --> 0:43:08.839 hard you work, like me and him shooting shots. I've 0:43:08.880 --> 0:43:12.040 been walking on my last leg. I really don't give 0:43:12.080 --> 0:43:14.879 a fuck. If we'd being honest, I didn't give a fuck, 0:43:15.160 --> 0:43:17.839 but I'm shooting against him because I know he give 0:43:17.880 --> 0:43:20.680 a fuck, like he cared like he and we're shooting. 0:43:20.719 --> 0:43:22.920 We haven't shootouts. This nigga shoot for hours. I'm like, 0:43:23.680 --> 0:43:26.439 I'm like, yo, I'm about to go to my half 0:43:26.480 --> 0:43:29.320 of a bedroom apartment. It's not a full bedroom's a 0:43:29.360 --> 0:43:31.320 half a bedroom. It's how much I didn't give a 0:43:31.560 --> 0:43:38.400 I had a half a bedroom apartment. No, no, it 0:43:38.440 --> 0:43:41.600 will cost it half bedroom apartment. So this nigga one 0:43:41.640 --> 0:43:45.960 day gonna say fuck you, No you never went to 0:43:46.120 --> 0:43:50.080 this groom. Not put him outside? He came outside. I said, bro, 0:43:50.440 --> 0:43:57.480 really living in the trap the trap room? No, the 0:43:57.600 --> 0:44:00.480 fuck you? Not pulling up? But not see how hard 0:44:00.480 --> 0:44:03.200 where I see how young guy you didn't want to 0:44:03.200 --> 0:44:06.800 be around. And that's how I like, like really like 0:44:06.880 --> 0:44:09.120 books the one because book was like one that I 0:44:09.320 --> 0:44:12.320 like really like from day one, him getting drafted to 0:44:12.440 --> 0:44:17.000 like pushing him and like really like putting it like 0:44:17.200 --> 0:44:20.080 like being like yo, you him bro, like before he 0:44:20.160 --> 0:44:22.520 even like and he knew he was him. But it's 0:44:22.600 --> 0:44:26.360 like I hadn't guarded. I hadn't guarded these guys. I 0:44:26.480 --> 0:44:29.239 guard these guys every night, like you got that bro, 0:44:29.480 --> 0:44:31.799 like like you you're not just good, like you're about 0:44:31.840 --> 0:44:34.480 to be legendary, like you one of them, like and 0:44:34.640 --> 0:44:38.080 he really like, bro listen to see his progression like 0:44:39.200 --> 0:44:42.400 so fast. It was like from being like Brooked to 0:44:42.560 --> 0:44:45.840 like Rook the best player on our team, like like 0:44:46.200 --> 0:44:50.440 now like starting college. Bro listen, Bro, it was like 0:44:51.440 --> 0:44:53.440 like it shout out, like like a blow out of 0:44:53.440 --> 0:44:56.759 gun Bort. Every day it was like he would do something. 0:44:56.840 --> 0:45:00.279 Everybody be like yo, like oh my god, Like Nigga, 0:45:00.280 --> 0:45:03.400 I started. I guarded him the first game he started 0:45:04.800 --> 0:45:07.920 in Atlanta. He started Earl Watson started the Nigga. I 0:45:08.120 --> 0:45:10.360 guarded him, and I'm like, you know, I'm like, what 0:45:10.480 --> 0:45:15.480 the he shotts. I'm not lying. I don't know what 0:45:15.600 --> 0:45:18.320 he had. We beat We beat the best when he 0:45:18.480 --> 0:45:24.239 was rolling best. I'm sucking what you don't say that 0:45:24.360 --> 0:45:29.920 on this podcast. It was he disrespects what you ever 0:45:30.000 --> 0:45:35.160 seen see you ever seen the little giants. He was 0:45:35.239 --> 0:45:39.640 the fucking quarterback that weekend. See, don't be up here. 0:45:39.719 --> 0:45:42.759 Are you laughing this shit? I'm serious, nigga. I'm talking 0:45:42.760 --> 0:45:47.359 about that weekend about your Rook story. Nigga, No, I'm 0:45:47.400 --> 0:45:50.200 talking about your rook story. Don't ever say that this 0:45:50.400 --> 0:45:57.279 was best freaking he always do that. I told you, 0:45:57.520 --> 0:46:01.560 we hate I try to get out our team. That 0:46:01.760 --> 0:46:09.400 was tough, but Themorrow just left. Yeah. I tried. Oh yeah, listen, 0:46:09.520 --> 0:46:14.440 No he was he was in Toronto. What year was 0:46:14.520 --> 0:46:17.360 that was seven, sixteen seventeen. Yeah, you was in Toronto 0:46:17.560 --> 0:46:20.320 and we was talking about him. See, I would you 0:46:20.920 --> 0:46:24.279 because if you would have replaced the more, yeah, P 0:46:24.520 --> 0:46:26.880 would have got the Austro not out of the Toronto. 0:46:27.080 --> 0:46:30.920 So I'm like, damn, we should get him. Nigga guard Bron. 0:46:32.000 --> 0:46:35.719 We couldn't fuck with b We couldn't with Bron. Nobody could. 0:46:35.800 --> 0:46:39.080 I respected. I was like during that time, nobody, listen, 0:46:39.560 --> 0:46:43.920 no wife, nobody, I can fight him. I can fight 0:46:44.920 --> 0:46:48.239 he ain't give a fuck about going Bron. Right at 0:46:48.280 --> 0:46:49.880 this time, I feel like I'm like, yeah, we got 0:46:49.920 --> 0:46:54.560 fun niggas. Bron get brobed everybody. I don't believe you 0:46:54.680 --> 0:46:56.560 just said that. I only fuked him because my niggas, 0:46:57.080 --> 0:46:59.040 my nigga get thirty or any night. But they every 0:46:59.080 --> 0:47:01.400 time I used to see them come across the little ESPN, 0:47:01.800 --> 0:47:04.320 these whole ass niggas to one again, they went on 0:47:04.400 --> 0:47:08.120 the stupid streak too. They were winners. I'm like that, nigga. 0:47:08.160 --> 0:47:11.000 But they used to like it would be a different 0:47:11.080 --> 0:47:14.239 leading score to really really move the bulls, to really run. 0:47:15.320 --> 0:47:19.440 I used to I used to hate playing him, so 0:47:20.160 --> 0:47:23.000 his all start of that ship was definitely desired to 0:47:23.080 --> 0:47:25.200 give him all of them, and people hate it on it, 0:47:25.280 --> 0:47:30.640 hold on, hold one, probably go ahead. They only he's 0:47:30.719 --> 0:47:33.600 supposed to have two or three. They almost put the 0:47:33.640 --> 0:47:36.359 whole team on. I'm gonna tall right now, ch cargo 0:47:36.480 --> 0:47:39.120 round or not. He was nothing. He was disrespectful. I 0:47:39.239 --> 0:47:42.160 loved it. Were you gonna disrespect we got? That's what's 0:47:42.160 --> 0:47:45.799 not gonna talking about. We're not gonna's not happening. That's 0:47:46.920 --> 0:47:56.080 that's my listening, all right. So after after Phoenix words, 0:47:56.120 --> 0:48:00.000 you go to Toronto. Right before we get to Toronto, 0:48:00.160 --> 0:48:02.480 I want to talk about when when niggas really started 0:48:02.520 --> 0:48:04.640 to notice that you was the guy. Because I remember, 0:48:04.680 --> 0:48:07.000 obviously I pay attention to Jeff No, I pay attention 0:48:07.080 --> 0:48:09.680 to Heat, but I'll never forget dog. When you pulled 0:48:09.719 --> 0:48:14.160 out the fucking red Octobers and Phoenix, I said, oh 0:48:15.200 --> 0:48:17.800 this is differ. He had the Sean Mary and Jordan's 0:48:17.840 --> 0:48:19.960 and Phoenix. This is why I came across this grind 0:48:19.960 --> 0:48:22.200 because I thought I was like him. This nigga got 0:48:22.600 --> 0:48:27.719 he pease that wasn't outside for peas. Yeah, you can 0:48:27.760 --> 0:48:30.239 look at this camera defeats. We know I wasn't gonna 0:48:30.239 --> 0:48:32.719 go to the shoot part. No, No, I just had it. 0:48:32.760 --> 0:48:36.279 I was hoop story up. We could go there. No, 0:48:36.600 --> 0:48:38.200 we could get to the hoop. But I couldn't pass 0:48:38.200 --> 0:48:40.719 Phoenix for not that I question when I played for 0:48:40.800 --> 0:48:44.800 the Pacers. Okay, let's let's talk about it. Okay, remember 0:48:44.840 --> 0:48:47.160 we had we had so I met me and p 0:48:47.400 --> 0:48:49.920 got cooled from some rock and NBA All Star. I'm 0:48:49.920 --> 0:48:54.000 just gonna leave it there. But so I not this nigga. 0:48:54.080 --> 0:48:56.319 But I'm on the Pacers now with l and Lands 0:48:56.320 --> 0:49:01.480 shoots the last second shot. The time is running out. 0:49:02.120 --> 0:49:06.080 Only Jeff it's five seconds left, lags in. We up 0:49:06.200 --> 0:49:10.479 like ten only Jeff. He hits the lay up. I'm like, damn, 0:49:10.840 --> 0:49:12.440 I know what this is about to come with your 0:49:12.600 --> 0:49:17.000 Mari pj A B line to let Oh yeah, ain't 0:49:17.080 --> 0:49:22.400 like you bitch ass nigga. I'm like, whoa lessons on 0:49:22.560 --> 0:49:27.520 my tea. So I'm like y'all gotta chill. Lass is 0:49:27.640 --> 0:49:29.920 walking straight to the tunnel. They like we gonna suck 0:49:30.000 --> 0:49:32.480 them up. So I like, I ain't about to do shit. 0:49:33.080 --> 0:49:36.040 I'm not taking no texts, no fires, nothing. It ain't 0:49:36.080 --> 0:49:39.160 my it ain't my battle. So I'm like, yo, y'all, chill, y'all, 0:49:39.200 --> 0:49:40.880 chill to morrow. Like no, you got me fucked up. 0:49:40.920 --> 0:49:45.920 Teath PJ said little Nigga. I said, we just had 0:49:46.000 --> 0:50:00.560 some rock together, y'all, little day weekends together. Game next, bro, 0:50:01.680 --> 0:50:04.960 but lifted bro to this bro. You know, let me 0:50:05.040 --> 0:50:08.520 say this first. It was part about the story. You know, 0:50:08.719 --> 0:50:11.400 YouTube is with the kids and shit like eleven like 0:50:11.800 --> 0:50:14.880 he who bro myself was like yo, that why you 0:50:15.000 --> 0:50:21.640 was so mad at like like you was wilding like nah, 0:50:21.680 --> 0:50:24.480 I'm like nah, it's a respect thing. So like NBA 0:50:24.719 --> 0:50:26.920 like Games over, like you you're still trying to score, 0:50:27.000 --> 0:50:29.200 like game over, Like, ain't nobody trying to dribble it out. 0:50:29.239 --> 0:50:32.840 You dribble it out, you hold the ball. It's respects, integrity, 0:50:32.920 --> 0:50:35.360 like it's what you do. Like yeah, you know what 0:50:35.400 --> 0:50:38.320 I'm saying. Games over and he faked like he was 0:50:38.360 --> 0:50:40.800 gonna dribble it out. He went to score, you know, 0:50:40.960 --> 0:50:43.360 and I ain't like that. He's like okay, but he 0:50:43.440 --> 0:50:45.400 still was looking like you wild. But I'm like na 0:50:45.760 --> 0:50:48.200 like to this day, like yeah, that was his first 0:50:48.239 --> 0:50:50.800 game back. Yes, bro, And that's what like, I don't know, 0:50:51.080 --> 0:50:52.879 like for me, that's what like triggered me even more. 0:50:52.880 --> 0:50:57.600 It was like he's trying to like boost he talked 0:50:57.600 --> 0:51:01.319 about this. I was like, I know in the locker room, 0:51:01.360 --> 0:51:07.120 I do sit on the court the niggas. Mind you. 0:51:07.440 --> 0:51:10.680 We're thinking we're gonna play them in the playoffs, right, 0:51:10.719 --> 0:51:13.359 so it's like we're about to like so that's how 0:51:13.480 --> 0:51:15.719 I just got there. But they're like, yo, they've been 0:51:15.800 --> 0:51:18.319 bad on in the end all year, like like are 0:51:18.440 --> 0:51:20.920 giving me the backstory? Somebody? Alright cool? So when they 0:51:20.960 --> 0:51:22.520 beat us, it was like a thing like we're about 0:51:22.520 --> 0:51:24.840 to play him in the playoffs, like all right, So 0:51:24.960 --> 0:51:27.239 it was like Susie did that. It was like all right, yeah, 0:51:27.520 --> 0:51:29.680 I think y'all was a two seed. We around lost 0:51:29.719 --> 0:51:34.200 another game. We had lost they and and it didn't 0:51:34.239 --> 0:51:37.480 matter all that bullshit that went on because Cleveland before 0:51:38.200 --> 0:51:45.400 I said that was we gonna play. That was the 0:51:45.480 --> 0:51:49.600 most unstoppable Lebron James that year. That was first year 0:51:49.600 --> 0:51:56.919 back in Cleveland, right, that was first year back unstoppable. Listen, listen, listen, 0:51:57.080 --> 0:52:01.520 I'm there's I'm not even the big it that that 0:52:01.680 --> 0:52:08.080 Lebron was unstoppable when he went against Paul Person and 0:52:08.160 --> 0:52:10.080 when he was in a Miami Jersey. What year was 0:52:10.120 --> 0:52:17.399 that twelve when he was that nigga was fresh year 0:52:17.440 --> 0:52:22.160 back in Cleveland, had the weekends mustache, the k he 0:52:22.280 --> 0:52:27.160 was eating, he was killing. Listen that he was. He 0:52:27.360 --> 0:52:30.280 was showing like how like like he showed the physicality 0:52:30.400 --> 0:52:33.560 that year of like niggas can't really like physically different 0:52:33.680 --> 0:52:36.120 guard me, Like that was the first time I was 0:52:36.280 --> 0:52:38.480 because I thought I thought I could guard, like really 0:52:38.600 --> 0:52:40.840 really guard Brian until that point and I was like, 0:52:42.120 --> 0:52:44.040 I can't you ever thought you thought you could ever 0:52:44.040 --> 0:52:48.640 regarding Will, But that was like he just like he 0:52:48.800 --> 0:52:51.960 showed that year after the All Star because that's when 0:52:52.000 --> 0:52:53.440 he had a three too, because that's when the three 0:52:53.480 --> 0:52:56.960 point ball came. He was doing the right step. That 0:52:58.560 --> 0:53:03.359 we had a game, we had we had Tourious ship. 0:53:04.760 --> 0:53:06.359 I think it was that you he had tourious shit 0:53:06.840 --> 0:53:08.920 and we had a game and I think I had 0:53:09.000 --> 0:53:13.080 gave Delladova like something crazy and I talked about it's 0:53:13.080 --> 0:53:15.879 gonna be a long like, it's gonna be a long 0:53:16.040 --> 0:53:18.800 fucking night. He was like, can you score more than me? Niggas? 0:53:19.719 --> 0:53:24.080 And I was like, yeah, told you that, No, bro, 0:53:25.160 --> 0:53:35.239 I say that. Yeah. Look the crowd feeling about yeah, bro, Like, 0:53:35.360 --> 0:53:38.440 what are you going to show me? I had eighteen 0:53:41.440 --> 0:53:49.680 eighteen that series? Oh my god, I had. So when 0:53:50.120 --> 0:53:53.399 when did the league start noticing you for your fashion ship? 0:53:53.480 --> 0:53:56.759 When did that become a thing? Like what you think that? 0:53:57.400 --> 0:54:00.680 All that shit came from me and James from Houston. 0:54:01.040 --> 0:54:04.040 The whole tone of thing was like that, the evolution 0:54:04.080 --> 0:54:06.200 of that, the way Houston built too. It was perfect too, 0:54:06.239 --> 0:54:08.200 because the way you know how it is like that 0:54:08.360 --> 0:54:10.840 that walk away right there, It's a long ass like 0:54:11.000 --> 0:54:12.919 walk away and it's like really like a walk away. 0:54:13.520 --> 0:54:15.520 And it was just built off that. So y'all started 0:54:15.600 --> 0:54:18.759 the tunnel flicks. We definitely talk about it. I'm just 0:54:18.840 --> 0:54:22.560 saying now, these niggas was real life like flies. No, 0:54:22.719 --> 0:54:24.920 they was like real life setting up shot every one 0:54:24.960 --> 0:54:29.080 time we played them. Yeah, and I'm like, you know, 0:54:29.120 --> 0:54:33.160 I don't wear ship. Yeah, me and y'all is the 0:54:33.239 --> 0:54:38.480 same person. I can't get my checking, come live in 0:54:38.560 --> 0:54:43.160 the right right, try to presship. So we about play 0:54:43.239 --> 0:54:48.880 them and they stopping. Damn they whips. It's crazy. So 0:54:48.960 --> 0:54:53.359 I'm I'm like these niggas car is crazy. I like cars. 0:54:53.400 --> 0:54:56.440 I'm like that cars are nice, but they're not coming in. 0:54:57.640 --> 0:55:01.279 Damn these niggas white. No, like kill these niggas. We 0:55:01.440 --> 0:55:06.000 like they gonna wait, like but no, they come in 0:55:06.160 --> 0:55:12.319 with shit. I'm like, this production, it's dressed. PJ had 0:55:12.400 --> 0:55:14.920 came more. Can we played them in the playoffs? Think 0:55:14.960 --> 0:55:18.080 it had like a suit on. I'm like, what the fuck? 0:55:18.960 --> 0:55:21.400 And James had some ship and I'm like, ah, these 0:55:21.480 --> 0:55:26.600 niggas are serious. I had an I'm like advantage of that. Yeah, 0:55:26.600 --> 0:55:30.680 they made it. It was like turning that into like 0:55:30.800 --> 0:55:33.120 fashion week and like knowing brands and getting stuff and 0:55:33.280 --> 0:55:35.480 like yeah, and like took it to a whole nother 0:55:35.560 --> 0:55:37.879 level and like now I love it because you see 0:55:37.920 --> 0:55:42.520 so many young guys now like but it's like we 0:55:42.760 --> 0:55:45.520 like really we didn't try to do it, but it 0:55:45.640 --> 0:55:47.360 was just kind of our styles. Like I was already 0:55:47.360 --> 0:55:51.480 I've been getting dressed every game, but Houston, like social media, 0:55:52.239 --> 0:55:57.680 they took it to another level. Yeah, for sure. Since 0:55:57.719 --> 0:56:02.360 we transitioned off basketball like you had very We're gonna nigga, 0:56:02.440 --> 0:56:04.560 you you know you an NBA champion. We're gonna get 0:56:04.600 --> 0:56:09.640 to our Milwaukee shit. But fact that how you got 0:56:09.800 --> 0:56:12.960 fashion going and how people are responding to it and 0:56:12.960 --> 0:56:16.400 the NBA is amazing, like playing with you. Used to 0:56:16.560 --> 0:56:20.200 come in the locker rind like Yo, this nigga really 0:56:20.320 --> 0:56:23.759 just put shit on and I ain't no grouping nigga 0:56:24.440 --> 0:56:26.719 really fresh, like I used to be shitty because I 0:56:26.840 --> 0:56:31.400 would be like, fuck, like look at my sentiality again, 0:56:32.800 --> 0:56:35.359 I be like and then I was shooes and then 0:56:35.360 --> 0:56:37.600 he had come with some shit like you see these 0:56:38.640 --> 0:56:43.320 the fuck I ain't got this nig different and he 0:56:43.400 --> 0:56:46.319 made me quit. I retired from sneakers and I'm show 0:56:46.400 --> 0:56:48.960 love because my nigga. He humbled, But Jeff been about that. 0:56:49.160 --> 0:56:51.759 Jeff been had that shit. Really do he really got 0:56:51.840 --> 0:56:53.960 it him with that young two niggas I know who 0:56:54.000 --> 0:56:56.719 was about this word. But when he told me how 0:56:56.800 --> 0:56:59.120 you was operating, I said, ye, it's different. I told you. 0:56:59.280 --> 0:57:03.759 I humble out. He came in talking. Though he first 0:57:03.840 --> 0:57:07.080 came he was like got those like man, what I 0:57:07.160 --> 0:57:10.759 got this? I'm like, oh, I'm like, where you got that? Like, okay, okay, 0:57:10.880 --> 0:57:13.800 Jeff got some he started bringing shit. I'm like, okay, 0:57:14.520 --> 0:57:22.080 got some work. Then they got spoken gott while you 0:57:22.160 --> 0:57:27.360 had two closes and locker room. He got ugly fast. 0:57:27.480 --> 0:57:30.640 That nigga had he had Kobe Peace. I was like, 0:57:31.160 --> 0:57:35.080 damn and no, that's and that was like that'st like minimum. 0:57:35.800 --> 0:57:38.400 That ain't even like every day. Yeah, that's not not 0:57:38.480 --> 0:57:42.000 even fire. When that nigga came with Lebrons that Lebron 0:57:42.120 --> 0:57:45.400 didn't have, the Bron stuff is where you go like 0:57:45.520 --> 0:57:48.520 next level. He had test shoes that Bron didn't have. 0:57:49.040 --> 0:57:51.280 He worked up before a game. I swear, I never 0:57:51.320 --> 0:57:53.960 forget he put them aster. What the fucking up? He's like, oh, 0:57:54.000 --> 0:57:58.640 these Lebron. It was weird test sambols between two different 0:57:58.720 --> 0:58:02.920 Lebrons before decided which Lebron they was dropping, right, so 0:58:03.000 --> 0:58:05.440 it was like which actual model. It was like a 0:58:05.560 --> 0:58:09.480 mix between the two models. It was the fifteen and sixteen. 0:58:09.560 --> 0:58:14.720 I think it was crazy, and he got him more. 0:58:15.000 --> 0:58:19.240 I don't know what the fuck is like he's test samples. 0:58:20.680 --> 0:58:25.080 So then Broun like you get the frou that's crazy. 0:58:26.440 --> 0:58:30.320 And then there's another episode bet he got the his team, 0:58:30.400 --> 0:58:32.320 his team Joyce coming out, he come in with him 0:58:32.360 --> 0:58:34.240 before him. I told him his team joy is better 0:58:34.280 --> 0:58:35.960 than his regular shows. He's like, how you seen my 0:58:36.000 --> 0:58:37.520 team Joys. I was like, I'm wearing in the game. 0:58:37.680 --> 0:58:41.480 He's like, Niggy come in the locker room like, Yo, 0:58:42.120 --> 0:58:46.280 that's crazy. Ye never seen him before. I'm on the 0:58:46.360 --> 0:58:50.360 side like how they work. He's seen him. He just 0:58:50.520 --> 0:58:53.640 hadn't warm yet. He's seen him. Oh no, but that's 0:58:53.680 --> 0:58:55.680 what he said. I know, I know he said that, 0:58:55.840 --> 0:58:57.880 but he's seen him. He just had warm yet. Yeah. 0:58:57.880 --> 0:59:01.440 I was like, what you ain't got the still another 0:59:01.640 --> 0:59:03.920 and then you know it's brother, No, we don't have. 0:59:04.400 --> 0:59:10.720 We don't have Like I'm like tt nah, And what's 0:59:10.720 --> 0:59:12.400 crazy is I know a little bit about shoes. You 0:59:12.440 --> 0:59:14.000 know what I'm saying when I say only you and 0:59:14.040 --> 0:59:16.480 Lawyer market, it has certain Lebron's. I'm like, that sounds 0:59:16.520 --> 0:59:19.760 running a little bit different, huh, littleimes A little bit 0:59:19.840 --> 0:59:22.560 different from this shoes. Shit, bro, he's different a kind 0:59:22.560 --> 0:59:25.960 of fashion. He's different coming when you had to do Chabana. 0:59:26.480 --> 0:59:29.720 I don't even say this ship that you don't wear shit. Look, 0:59:30.080 --> 0:59:32.120 but that's all built off of like all that stuff 0:59:32.160 --> 0:59:34.160 he was talking about. Bro, it really just came from that. 0:59:34.560 --> 0:59:36.840 That's hard, like and that's the shit about it, Like 0:59:37.240 --> 0:59:40.560 it didn't take a whole lot of nothing else, just 0:59:40.720 --> 0:59:43.920 showing interest in doing it every night, and this the 0:59:44.040 --> 0:59:46.800 dedication to It's like yoh, okay, you got style. I 0:59:46.920 --> 0:59:50.600 like it. Boom, now we meet boom, how would you 0:59:50.680 --> 0:59:55.320 like this? Boom? We gotta collab boom. It's fast, it's 0:59:55.360 --> 0:59:58.000 fashion like a passion or it's just like that's my 0:59:58.440 --> 1:00:02.080 like for sure, for sure I hoop because I hope 1:00:02.240 --> 1:00:05.640 like yeah hooping. It's like you are nooping like job blood. 1:00:05.680 --> 1:00:07.440 That's how we grow up. It's like everything we do. 1:00:08.000 --> 1:00:10.160 But then like you started learning yourself and stuff you 1:00:10.280 --> 1:00:12.480 like and like what you're really into. And I was 1:00:12.520 --> 1:00:16.600 just naturally into the fashion and really were in fashion. 1:00:16.640 --> 1:00:19.320 It was like not even just me, it was like 1:00:19.520 --> 1:00:23.120 yost some women and like it got it got so 1:00:23.200 --> 1:00:25.000 much bigger, and I started to realize how much more 1:00:25.000 --> 1:00:27.360 I like, so much more of it. It was like yo, 1:00:27.600 --> 1:00:29.120 like this is what I'm really had to it so 1:00:29.320 --> 1:00:33.200 safe to say, after you're done, you're gonna have I 1:00:34.520 --> 1:00:36.439 got a question on that obviously you got your own shop. 1:00:36.560 --> 1:00:38.320 That's going crazy. You know what I'm saying. You see 1:00:38.880 --> 1:00:40.480 hip hop artists like for real, you know what I'm saying, 1:00:40.520 --> 1:00:44.160 getting that creative? What Brandon House? Would you like to 1:00:44.200 --> 1:00:46.920 have PJ get his collection? Have y'all touch on bro? 1:00:47.040 --> 1:00:49.680 I swears the number one question. I have no idea, 1:00:49.840 --> 1:00:55.400 no idea right now because I really don't know the direction. 1:00:55.440 --> 1:00:58.520 I wasn't going next, Like I didn't this A few 1:00:58.600 --> 1:01:00.840 collapse at this point and it's like all right, like 1:01:00.880 --> 1:01:04.680 I didn't dial with a double here and there. And 1:01:04.760 --> 1:01:07.280 it's tough because you always like like I could just 1:01:07.360 --> 1:01:09.520 throw some stuff out there, but it's like, oh, would 1:01:09.560 --> 1:01:12.120 I really do that right now or like whatever, like 1:01:12.200 --> 1:01:15.440 especially while you're hooping, it's always tough. It's like the time. 1:01:19.120 --> 1:01:21.960 But now I'm for really Louis Bro like, there's no 1:01:22.080 --> 1:01:24.280 way I would never want to do that like that. Yeah, 1:01:24.680 --> 1:01:27.640 that's like elite I'm not like ELITEE. We had a 1:01:27.760 --> 1:01:30.280 podcast before that. I'm not a real dressing fan. He's not. 1:01:30.520 --> 1:01:32.880 So I'm glad that you he's not. I'm glad that 1:01:32.960 --> 1:01:40.479 you're here because you help skateboard pet. I don't okay, listen, 1:01:42.240 --> 1:01:45.200 we had a debate. I'm glad damn alright, the basketball 1:01:47.640 --> 1:01:50.600 an NBA champion. We're gonna get We're gonna tell some 1:01:50.640 --> 1:01:53.720 of our funny stories about Milwaukee. Katie was cooking us 1:01:53.760 --> 1:02:03.960 and ship it to the tool. I even though my 1:02:04.120 --> 1:02:08.720 Ford truck that's still running because I was ready to 1:02:08.760 --> 1:02:12.160 put my sh up. And what game was that? Game four? 1:02:12.240 --> 1:02:14.800 We lost? This game two? Was it too? Yeah? We 1:02:14.840 --> 1:02:20.800 gotta be about fifty. Yeah, Jeff's like that's crazy. I'm 1:02:20.840 --> 1:02:25.320 going home. It's over. But shout Davis. I was. I was. 1:02:25.440 --> 1:02:28.840 I was retired that he was done. I was done. 1:02:29.760 --> 1:02:32.000 But we talk about fashion, So we get back on that. 1:02:33.160 --> 1:02:35.440 You've been you've been putting that shit on. You've been 1:02:35.520 --> 1:02:38.880 that guy, you've been doing all that shit. But how 1:02:39.000 --> 1:02:42.240 did you get started with the sneaker? So like what 1:02:42.520 --> 1:02:46.080 was your first sneaker? How did that ship even that? 1:02:46.320 --> 1:02:49.720 That's like Carolina Shough Like that's like like Michael Jordan 1:02:49.800 --> 1:02:52.640 being from Carolina, Like yeah, loving Carolina, like they came 1:02:52.720 --> 1:02:54.960 from that. So like when like back then you get 1:02:55.080 --> 1:02:57.200 jays to wear them like we literally used to cop 1:02:57.240 --> 1:03:00.360 our jays, put them on go to school, like school 1:03:01.040 --> 1:03:04.720 first person with him like it was the Jays, and 1:03:04.760 --> 1:03:07.600 then from that it just evolved like into the whole thing. 1:03:07.760 --> 1:03:12.520 Like you can collected shoes because like actually collecting since 1:03:14.400 --> 1:03:18.440 two thousand, like nine two thousand. Yeah, And what I 1:03:18.520 --> 1:03:20.480 respect about you so much is like you can tell 1:03:20.520 --> 1:03:22.200 it's not for us, like you could tell it's just 1:03:22.320 --> 1:03:24.040 like I get this shit. I'm gonna put that shit on. 1:03:24.320 --> 1:03:26.240 Like it made so many people like, oh, I can 1:03:26.280 --> 1:03:27.760 actually wear my shoes here. What the fuck did you 1:03:27.800 --> 1:03:31.439 get them for? Who's waiting for? Like you're sitting with him, like, yeah, 1:03:31.640 --> 1:03:33.520 they're gonna suck up. I have shoes from a long 1:03:33.560 --> 1:03:35.680 time ago. They're gonna crumble eventually. That's why when I 1:03:35.720 --> 1:03:37.520 seen you with Phoenix, I'm like, oh, he's really hooping 1:03:37.560 --> 1:03:39.600 in that ship. Like that shit changed that everybody. You 1:03:39.680 --> 1:03:41.800 can see the people who bid off of you, and 1:03:41.920 --> 1:03:43.440 you can tell people who are genuine about it. And 1:03:43.480 --> 1:03:45.439 I appreciate you bring it back to genuine. Shit didn't 1:03:45.480 --> 1:03:51.120 because like like really like I'm que rich. Oh my god, 1:03:51.240 --> 1:03:56.640 I said, you know this niggas cracty I said, he 1:03:56.840 --> 1:04:01.840 literally did me was like, yo, Broye, that's my dog. Crazy. 1:04:02.800 --> 1:04:05.760 I was like crazy, he opened anything. I was like, Yo, 1:04:05.840 --> 1:04:10.160 Tildy Miles, I got his white and orange nins bro. 1:04:10.360 --> 1:04:13.320 I got some boys. First of all, First that's my 1:04:13.560 --> 1:04:16.919 dog to First of all. First of all, people don't 1:04:16.920 --> 1:04:22.040 know I've been where you haven't been like that forbidden 1:04:26.120 --> 1:04:31.520 I've been. I've been. Don't put emphasis on it. Yeah, 1:04:31.600 --> 1:04:34.440 you're trying to glorify where you've never been. Say he's 1:04:34.440 --> 1:04:39.680 gonna do that. He's gonna do that. That energy that 1:04:43.320 --> 1:04:48.760 is right here energy. Okay, he gonna pick out Henna 1:04:48.760 --> 1:04:58.800 sing up right now out of here. I wanted the 1:04:59.120 --> 1:05:06.200 story ast fiss me yaft Thisten got being on his 1:05:06.360 --> 1:05:10.600 team teammates and seeing like how he operates with the 1:05:10.680 --> 1:05:15.320 shoe shit is fucking ridiculous from a shoe nigga, from 1:05:15.360 --> 1:05:19.720 a shoot this nigga guy. Yeah, he gonna have five 1:05:19.800 --> 1:05:22.680 hundred prayer of shoes at the facility. That's a given. 1:05:23.240 --> 1:05:30.440 Sure we're the good shit at the nigga. They got 1:05:30.480 --> 1:05:34.560 the ship. He got a place at an undisclosed location, 1:05:35.240 --> 1:05:38.720 and that motherfucker is far like all you shoot addicts, 1:05:39.200 --> 1:05:42.560 So collect all that, let it go. I'm telling y'all, 1:05:42.640 --> 1:05:44.680 never tap in. I got a good story for y'all. 1:05:46.280 --> 1:05:50.240 He got everything you can think of. You talk about 1:05:50.400 --> 1:05:57.480 Lebron Force, Kobe fives, Kobe four threes, twos, Kanye West. 1:05:57.880 --> 1:06:04.320 What's the brandy amples Yeah, that's a million dollars. That 1:06:04.520 --> 1:06:09.280 was like they never never will Like he got so 1:06:09.400 --> 1:06:11.040 much sh Bro, he made me put on my shoes. 1:06:11.080 --> 1:06:14.600 I stopped buying shoes. I buy general releases. Now I 1:06:14.640 --> 1:06:16.880 would regular stuff though, like we get to talk about 1:06:16.920 --> 1:06:18.680 like all the crazy stuff, but like every day, Bro, 1:06:18.840 --> 1:06:21.720 I would regular stuff. No, Bro, no you don't do Bro. 1:06:22.040 --> 1:06:24.720 You look at your feet all right now? No, no, no, no, 1:06:24.880 --> 1:06:27.440 it's different nothing regularly. I'm on the road. I'm on 1:06:27.520 --> 1:06:30.120 the road trip and I'll be on your team. That's 1:06:30.160 --> 1:06:35.480 what I'm saying, like to but alright, but this podcast 1:06:35.600 --> 1:06:37.960 wasn't playing. So this is just what he did. What 1:06:38.480 --> 1:06:40.320 we had nothing to do with this was coming here. 1:06:40.320 --> 1:06:41.840 What are you talking about? This is just what he does. 1:06:42.320 --> 1:06:44.360 I've been on his team, bro, so let him get 1:06:44.360 --> 1:06:47.920 his ship out. What's what's regular? Regular? Like like air 1:06:48.000 --> 1:06:50.840 Max was and all White Air Forces like I would 1:06:50.920 --> 1:06:54.480 regular snack every day. All White Air Force had a rocketfeller. 1:06:56.000 --> 1:07:04.520 That's a fact. Or they might be John Elliott. That's fact. Yes, 1:07:04.800 --> 1:07:11.960 I'm wearing bro I play. I play this nigga team 1:07:12.040 --> 1:07:18.120 so Yo he got the supreme. I wear a rocket 1:07:18.160 --> 1:07:22.960 feller once he were ones. It's not okay, that's what 1:07:23.040 --> 1:07:25.880 you're calling Boss Leather. I got a question for you. 1:07:26.120 --> 1:07:27.640 You know what I'm saying. We all grow up at 1:07:27.680 --> 1:07:29.320 the time, but word, you know what I'm saying, outside 1:07:29.360 --> 1:07:31.200 of wearing mice like we was about an age group 1:07:31.240 --> 1:07:32.440 of where you know what I'm saying, you rocked the 1:07:32.480 --> 1:07:35.040 Iversons because Iverson was that nigga t Mac Mac was 1:07:35.080 --> 1:07:38.160 that nigga? What will it take for like dogs getting 1:07:38.160 --> 1:07:40.800 signatures today? Like you got the jobs popping out soon, 1:07:41.160 --> 1:07:43.520 what will it take for them shoes on initial release 1:07:43.600 --> 1:07:45.200 to get back to high woods? You know what I'm saying, 1:07:45.240 --> 1:07:47.480 Like the Barclays, the Pennies, we was geeked to where 1:07:47.520 --> 1:07:50.000 though it's not the same no more and obviously you 1:07:50.040 --> 1:07:52.720 ain't trying to get fly and like no pgs, no Kyrie's. 1:07:53.080 --> 1:07:54.760 You think Nikia ever get back to the point to 1:07:54.800 --> 1:07:57.200 where they make that shoe like lit to where off 1:07:57.240 --> 1:07:58.919 court as it is in court? Is it just gonna 1:07:58.920 --> 1:08:01.920 be performance basical going for over it dude, do you 1:08:02.000 --> 1:08:05.040 think it's just Nike. Nike's the reason that it's not 1:08:05.200 --> 1:08:06.800 like that. I won't say I will put that on 1:08:06.920 --> 1:08:09.240 Nike because it's not them, but I'll say overall, like 1:08:09.400 --> 1:08:11.200 you know, those Nike stifles was the ones that we 1:08:11.320 --> 1:08:15.120 got to like. But I'm saying, like what what we're 1:08:15.200 --> 1:08:19.160 all goes tours making those iconic shoes what they were 1:08:19.240 --> 1:08:21.679 to us, like right, like when you really like since 1:08:21.760 --> 1:08:26.280 like see this is marketing, this is this is what 1:08:26.360 --> 1:08:29.360 I'm saying, like people forgetting Everybody like talk about it 1:08:29.360 --> 1:08:32.320 a lot now, especially but not so many releases dropping 1:08:32.360 --> 1:08:36.160 of like new stuff like like what made it? Like 1:08:36.240 --> 1:08:38.519 what made it like that? Like what made Let's let's 1:08:38.600 --> 1:08:40.960 just take Penny for us, talk about it a little 1:08:41.040 --> 1:08:45.120 Penny Tower Banks keep going like we can. We can 1:08:45.200 --> 1:08:50.200 keep going, bro Pennies whole exists with all that stuff. 1:08:50.479 --> 1:08:55.080 And then to see Penny on that on NBC, go 1:08:55.280 --> 1:08:57.880 up top on somebody go crazy, but like it was 1:08:57.960 --> 1:09:00.839 like the whole experience of like Penny was like different. 1:09:01.040 --> 1:09:05.320 Y'all y'all shooting experts. I'll get that to y'all, but 1:09:05.560 --> 1:09:08.599 you know, shout out to y'all, but you're a nasty nigga. 1:09:08.680 --> 1:09:11.360 If you wear a pair of Kyries and some jeens 1:09:11.439 --> 1:09:13.280 like Jeffery got on to the club, you're out of 1:09:13.320 --> 1:09:19.600 pocket nobody. That's the whole point. I don't give a 1:09:19.680 --> 1:09:23.720 fuck what commercial. I don't give a fuck who put 1:09:23.800 --> 1:09:27.680 them bitches on. Don't give a fuck. If you put 1:09:27.760 --> 1:09:30.879 on some Kyres with them Flair jeans, you're a nasty 1:09:35.680 --> 1:09:42.000 I ain't trying to fuck up y'all segment rights. I'm 1:09:42.080 --> 1:09:48.240 just listen. First of all, I'm just saying, that's all right, 1:09:48.280 --> 1:09:50.680 But that's not and that's not that's not the tonal fit. 1:09:52.280 --> 1:09:57.320 That's what about some Katie Force that was with them 1:09:57.360 --> 1:10:00.760 Flair Jays with them seven of the Shoes ever talking 1:10:00.760 --> 1:10:03.560 about it. I'm gonna stop it anything, stop doing it 1:10:05.960 --> 1:10:09.800 everywhere you get a pass because who you are, you 1:10:09.920 --> 1:10:12.320 probably had a couple of week ass outfits. But niggas 1:10:12.320 --> 1:10:18.080 said that's PJAT. He gonna get us right tomorrow. He 1:10:18.280 --> 1:10:21.320 gonna fuck with us to get back. They gonna come 1:10:21.360 --> 1:10:25.439 back and fuck with us tomorrow. Bro. You can't say that. Bro, listen, Yes, 1:10:25.520 --> 1:10:29.519 I can't. Ain't never you got on some Flair jeans too, 1:10:30.200 --> 1:10:35.320 You ain't never wore some kyries I love off the court. 1:10:36.000 --> 1:10:38.120 But that's what I think. That's what I'm trying to say. 1:10:38.560 --> 1:10:40.479 Where will they get back to a fashion like I 1:10:40.560 --> 1:10:44.720 feel like niggas ghetto ghetto niggas wore phone posets with 1:10:44.840 --> 1:10:49.040 some black jeans. The difference is though now with the 1:10:49.160 --> 1:10:53.960 performance like technology, like don't shoes these shoes the technology 1:10:54.040 --> 1:10:57.439 is different. Okay, but but DJ say hurt now like 1:10:57.720 --> 1:11:00.240 but yeah, DJ say it. Take the dick sporting was 1:11:00.320 --> 1:11:03.120 auf the shoe and bring it more back to foot 1:11:03.160 --> 1:11:07.439 locker chimps like a Lebron three. We was out of pocket, 1:11:07.680 --> 1:11:10.120 but niggas was wearing them with fits though, but that 1:11:10.240 --> 1:11:14.400 was it wasn't but it was. It was really kind 1:11:14.439 --> 1:11:16.880 of weak. We was pushing it. It was on the 1:11:18.040 --> 1:11:28.960 I'm listen man, three man, you don't like that? Three 1:11:29.520 --> 1:11:33.040 threes are my favorite Lebron ever fast personal choice. I 1:11:33.080 --> 1:11:36.000 didn't wear. I didn't wear the ones with fits. But 1:11:36.080 --> 1:11:38.120 I'm talking about the Zoom generations with some with some 1:11:38.240 --> 1:11:43.960 rocket jeans, jeans or that could have been respectable. It 1:11:44.040 --> 1:11:50.000 was a little dusty. I'm saying, like for today, if 1:11:50.040 --> 1:11:52.519 a nigga had on some threes with some jeans. You're 1:11:52.560 --> 1:11:54.519 kind of looking like you're not getting the club. They're 1:11:54.520 --> 1:11:57.760 gonna turn you away as bro. Yeah facts, but you 1:11:57.840 --> 1:12:00.080 know what I'm saying, nobody wearing Lebron threes. But I 1:12:00.160 --> 1:12:01.800 think but I'm trying to pin them back to what 1:12:01.880 --> 1:12:03.519 DJ was trying to say, like when would it get 1:12:03.560 --> 1:12:06.360 back to whatever? Because it's based off of performance, perform 1:12:06.479 --> 1:12:09.720 Like it's performance shoes. Shoes are like like, guys, you 1:12:09.800 --> 1:12:11.920 gotta hooping him like you got actually playing them, like 1:12:12.479 --> 1:12:15.320 busting out like you gotta like it's like a real thing, 1:12:15.520 --> 1:12:18.040 like you gotta the performance. Gotta beat there. Okay, that's 1:12:18.040 --> 1:12:20.439 why it's gotta beat there, busting out the shoes you 1:12:20.520 --> 1:12:23.719 got on now know house arrest, I got three straps. 1:12:25.000 --> 1:12:26.680 Jason vorh is with him. You ain't getting out of 1:12:26.680 --> 1:12:30.840 them shoes ready, But I honestly like I want to 1:12:30.880 --> 1:12:33.599 see like the energy back in it, right And that's 1:12:33.800 --> 1:12:37.240 I'm actually helping Book with his new shoes because Book 1:12:37.280 --> 1:12:42.240 new shoes coming okay right now, And it's but it's 1:12:42.240 --> 1:12:44.200 got a chance, it's got a chance to really like 1:12:44.439 --> 1:12:47.640 change the game. What do you think about josh I 1:12:47.760 --> 1:12:51.040 like Joshua Lot, I like Joshua a lot. It's clean, 1:12:51.200 --> 1:12:55.479 it's and I feel like it's him, like it's gets him. 1:12:56.520 --> 1:13:00.320 He's just sent me a bunch of pairs. I mess 1:13:00.360 --> 1:13:05.120 with job, but with the shoes on you, like they 1:13:05.200 --> 1:13:09.240 gotta fit you right, like I ain't with like some 1:13:09.360 --> 1:13:11.720 people can shoes things like it's like yo, they don't 1:13:11.760 --> 1:13:14.320 even don't even look like, don't make sense, don't make sense, 1:13:14.400 --> 1:13:16.559 like it's gotta make sense. And I think that's back 1:13:16.600 --> 1:13:19.360 in the day, like everybody shoes makes sense. They did 1:13:19.439 --> 1:13:21.960 it like it looked like your shoes, like Charles Barkley, 1:13:22.200 --> 1:13:27.280 Like Charles Barkley. Charles Barkley shoes like a big Like 1:13:28.120 --> 1:13:30.639 that's what I'm saying. Like his shoes looked like him, 1:13:30.760 --> 1:13:34.880 like Martin looked like him. But you're still throwing all black. 1:13:36.200 --> 1:13:38.840 You're not throwing phones on right now. Put your phones on. 1:13:39.080 --> 1:13:41.400 I ain't seen phones and don't it's about to bring 1:13:41.479 --> 1:13:44.200 them back because you're in the new galaxy. You ain't 1:13:44.200 --> 1:13:47.519 from that. Don't don't disconnect yourself too much. And that 1:13:47.840 --> 1:13:50.439 it might be a nigger phone, Jake, I know you 1:13:50.720 --> 1:13:53.840 put on them. He might ask you for five on 1:13:53.880 --> 1:13:55.240 this tank if you got on phone post. So I 1:13:55.240 --> 1:13:58.200 don't even talk about nigga. I know you fashion wake 1:13:58.360 --> 1:14:04.160 ripped the real white do me three means the nigga 1:14:04.240 --> 1:14:08.759 got the phones on with all black fit in our city. 1:14:08.960 --> 1:14:13.200 He's safe, Yeah, because he's a dangerous nigga. No nobody 1:14:13.280 --> 1:14:17.240 being dangerous, but we're not. He's chilling. He might come 1:14:17.280 --> 1:14:20.320 to the gym, you know what I mean, Dram had 1:14:20.320 --> 1:14:22.840 a basketball event or something. Nigga coming at all black 1:14:23.880 --> 1:14:26.559 in his pocket though he chilled, for sure. He chilled 1:14:26.800 --> 1:14:29.599 all black with some phones on. It don't matter what coming, 1:14:29.760 --> 1:14:31.920 I guess. I mean, get the tongue always black on 1:14:32.000 --> 1:14:37.840 the phone cities different, go with the phone cities always 1:14:38.760 --> 1:14:40.639 to me, been on what phones it is? But okay, 1:14:43.120 --> 1:14:44.280 I'm gonna take you right now. I ain't the Mike 1:14:44.320 --> 1:14:47.960 Bibby all right, I'm telling you, I repectus just wearing 1:14:48.000 --> 1:14:51.880 swaying phone that about to be happy because phones is 1:14:51.960 --> 1:14:58.240 coming back right now. I can't about to push Oh, 1:14:58.280 --> 1:15:00.400 I got a blue pair of Mike Bibby's white Mike Bibby, 1:15:00.400 --> 1:15:01.760 I need him on the tell my boy you've seen 1:15:01.800 --> 1:15:06.719 on this podcast. I need that you were the mellow. 1:15:07.479 --> 1:15:12.400 No damn my contract. I will say that respectfully. Yeah, 1:15:12.400 --> 1:15:15.000 we're Nike guy. I got a question for you. Know 1:15:15.000 --> 1:15:16.960 what I'm saying, You've had so many crazy ps with 1:15:17.080 --> 1:15:19.360 like the high Products and the Kobes, but like, what's 1:15:19.400 --> 1:15:24.800 your favorite Kobe model? Kobe four you're rolling. I think 1:15:24.880 --> 1:15:27.320 Kobe four is the best basketball show ever made. Oh 1:15:27.520 --> 1:15:29.960 you know what, I'm a respect it, but I think 1:15:30.160 --> 1:15:31.760 I shoot is close, even though it was the same 1:15:31.800 --> 1:15:34.080 price point. I think that PG one needs more respect. 1:15:34.439 --> 1:15:36.000 I think that PG one is one of the hardest 1:15:36.040 --> 1:15:41.040 basketball shoes. J Turner said nothing on it. I'm looking 1:15:42.280 --> 1:15:47.320 who said I with the PG one. We're just we're talking. 1:15:47.439 --> 1:15:49.240 I'm not I'm not just that shoot. I don't think 1:15:49.280 --> 1:15:51.800 it's the best shoe, but we're saying this is like 1:15:52.240 --> 1:15:56.840 another level I respect, like Kobe four is nig You 1:15:56.840 --> 1:15:59.880 remember when you showed me the undefeat even we Yo 1:16:00.160 --> 1:16:03.080 do even were in the Phoenix and the Undefeated. You 1:16:03.160 --> 1:16:07.639 show me on the Hey, I'm on the bus tripping 1:16:09.160 --> 1:16:12.280 Jeff starting, I'm going crazy. He got the Undefeated, not 1:16:12.400 --> 1:16:16.679 the pack. I know, the Green, the friends of Family, 1:16:17.520 --> 1:16:21.280 the F and F I'm going hard, like Yo, you 1:16:21.400 --> 1:16:24.320 about to wear though, He's like He's like, yo, you 1:16:24.560 --> 1:16:32.160 Wally was because her kids like shit like that. I 1:16:33.800 --> 1:16:35.280 feel like that could be four is there. I'm a 1:16:35.360 --> 1:16:38.240 Kobe six nigga, but I respect the funk out Kobe 1:16:38.280 --> 1:16:40.880 six is good, but they don't got like the Kobe four. 1:16:40.960 --> 1:16:43.840 To me, I like my shoes to be tight, like 1:16:44.360 --> 1:16:49.120 like loose, and it like loosens up more when you play, 1:16:49.200 --> 1:16:51.759 Like the more you wear the Kobe six, it loosens 1:16:51.840 --> 1:16:53.320 up and it gets to a point where you can't 1:16:53.360 --> 1:16:55.760 even wear no more because they're blowing out like they're 1:16:55.800 --> 1:17:01.840 going the scales four. I swear, who ever I took 1:17:01.880 --> 1:17:09.280 them six? Did you know about that? I didn't. It's 1:17:09.320 --> 1:17:13.680 like a yeah, I said he had so many man, 1:17:13.760 --> 1:17:16.320 he had so many ps bro. That was like he 1:17:16.520 --> 1:17:21.040 like just storm, like, you know, let me take this. 1:17:21.120 --> 1:17:23.240 I ain't give him the sign of him. I'm like, shit, 1:17:23.840 --> 1:17:25.160 they gonna see on the end of that they know 1:17:25.240 --> 1:17:33.160 who they are. Pull the bright orchards to You want 1:17:33.160 --> 1:17:37.920 to think about it? You want to think about yeah, 1:17:38.800 --> 1:17:41.080 for sure. Last minute at least we get out of here. 1:17:41.080 --> 1:17:42.600 We got to ask a couple of rapper questions. What 1:17:42.640 --> 1:17:44.320 I'm saying, See how you feel about a couple of things. 1:17:44.360 --> 1:17:47.439 You've been around the league while I'm gonna go, You're 1:17:47.479 --> 1:17:51.240 top five cities to go out there in the United 1:17:51.320 --> 1:18:04.200 States of America. And no particular or no pressure, indeposit. 1:18:04.600 --> 1:18:09.040 I love good money out here. I know you're gonna 1:18:09.040 --> 1:18:16.400 ask for gas money. Walk away, Miami, New York, La. Scott, 1:18:16.439 --> 1:18:20.679 Still Houston, Scott, Still about Toronto, though I love Toronto, 1:18:21.200 --> 1:18:25.200 there's still Canada. What about Atlanta? Though I love Atlanta, 1:18:25.640 --> 1:18:35.360 But it's Houston number one? You think you think number 1:18:35.360 --> 1:18:40.240 one place in America right now? Over No, No, no, 1:18:40.320 --> 1:18:43.840 what I'm saying, like not right now, I'm saying and 1:18:44.040 --> 1:18:47.920 like over the years, over the years. No, I'm saying, 1:18:47.960 --> 1:18:50.920 we asked me what right now, what the city's are 1:18:51.000 --> 1:18:52.600 right now in no particular order, and that's why I 1:18:52.640 --> 1:18:56.160 said Houston last. But Houston is actually like one two 1:18:57.320 --> 1:19:07.360 real right now in America. That yeah, niggas, I had 1:19:07.400 --> 1:19:09.519 a good time. He took me out of Houston, had 1:19:09.560 --> 1:19:13.320 a great time. Shout out to the Porsche. No, of course, listen, 1:19:13.360 --> 1:19:16.360 Toronto is a great time. I'm just saying I have 1:19:16.520 --> 1:19:20.360 problems when I crossed the border. So yeah, yeah, I 1:19:20.360 --> 1:19:22.479 just don't It's just a little different experience for me now. 1:19:22.560 --> 1:19:24.799 And I played there and I love it. It's wonderful, 1:19:24.880 --> 1:19:27.400 But all right, I'd rather be in La New York. 1:19:27.880 --> 1:19:30.360 I can I not putting that over La New York Miami. 1:19:30.720 --> 1:19:33.160 Can I ask you something before we get to like 1:19:33.280 --> 1:19:36.920 these last questions? What was it like winning the championship? 1:19:37.000 --> 1:19:38.800 How would you define? Like? What was that for you? 1:19:40.000 --> 1:19:42.760 Like being an NBA champion, Like you weren't so hard 1:19:42.760 --> 1:19:45.920 you want to oversee play countless amount of years in 1:19:46.000 --> 1:19:49.240 the league to get to Milwaukee. Me being one of 1:19:49.320 --> 1:19:51.400 your teammates and being a part of that, sharing that 1:19:51.520 --> 1:19:53.639 moment with you. What was that like for you winning 1:19:53.640 --> 1:19:57.720 the championship? Yeah? I think too. I was coming from 1:19:57.760 --> 1:20:01.439 Houston where he's just like for Chip not get it. 1:20:01.560 --> 1:20:06.200 Everybody left me. Then they start playing with me like 1:20:06.600 --> 1:20:08.479 like I was fake, hurt, blah blah blah, like this 1:20:09.080 --> 1:20:12.000 dismissed me from the team, like trying to get traded. 1:20:12.040 --> 1:20:15.880 They playing to get the Milwaukee and it's like, all right, 1:20:16.880 --> 1:20:20.439 all the bullshit going now, fighting all the obstacles I 1:20:20.479 --> 1:20:22.439 had to fight in Milwaukee during the time of like 1:20:22.560 --> 1:20:25.080 showing them like who I am and what I do 1:20:25.360 --> 1:20:30.040 and like fighting that battle to actually finishing it and 1:20:30.120 --> 1:20:33.240 doing what you said you was gonna do, Like there 1:20:33.320 --> 1:20:35.920 was nothing. That's like the top of the top, like 1:20:36.000 --> 1:20:39.360 the pinnacle, like you know, like stand on top of 1:20:39.439 --> 1:20:44.559 that mountain was like looking down like fuck everybody that's 1:20:44.640 --> 1:20:47.840 that like you like your whole life like looking back there, 1:20:47.920 --> 1:20:51.479 like all the Toronto that shit, like you know what 1:20:51.479 --> 1:20:53.760 I'm saying, like you like I literally had to go 1:20:53.880 --> 1:20:55.639 through like the phases of all that shit to get 1:20:55.680 --> 1:20:59.800 to that point, like that ship was everything. And then 1:21:00.120 --> 1:21:02.760 But the best part about it is as soon as 1:21:02.760 --> 1:21:06.320 it's over the season starts, it's like, all right, you 1:21:06.400 --> 1:21:11.640 did it white, Lately it again? I tell that, bro, 1:21:11.760 --> 1:21:13.760 That's the best part about it. It's like, especially if 1:21:13.760 --> 1:21:16.639 you don't retire, if you ain't done, it's like I retire. 1:21:17.400 --> 1:21:22.080 You retired right away. You retired on top. But when 1:21:22.120 --> 1:21:24.800 you go to another team or wherever whatever you're gonna do, 1:21:24.920 --> 1:21:28.840 it's like, boom, what have you done lately? Do it again? 1:21:29.040 --> 1:21:32.000 Do it again? If you like that, then do it again. Okay. 1:21:32.760 --> 1:21:36.160 It's a great segment. Since you went from winning the 1:21:36.240 --> 1:21:39.400 championship to go on with my dog Jimmy and Miami, 1:21:41.760 --> 1:21:45.400 that created me to a whole other monster because all right, 1:21:45.880 --> 1:21:48.840 Milwaukee didn't they didn't do what they I thought they 1:21:48.920 --> 1:21:52.400 should have did. I was like, they just want to match. 1:21:52.479 --> 1:21:55.679 They're like, well, don't get offer and we'll match whoever 1:21:55.760 --> 1:21:58.320 offer you. And I was like, do you want better? 1:21:58.360 --> 1:22:01.360 I'm I'm I'm gonna go to whoever offers me. You 1:22:01.400 --> 1:22:03.720 can keep your match and then I'm gonna see you. 1:22:04.560 --> 1:22:06.200 I like that, I'm gonna see you around the block. 1:22:06.640 --> 1:22:09.400 And so that whole motivation that year was like getting 1:22:09.400 --> 1:22:11.320 to the class to play Milwaukee, like I just wanted to. 1:22:11.760 --> 1:22:13.280 It wasn't even a bout winning the chip for me, 1:22:13.439 --> 1:22:15.360 Like I was all some ship, like I just wanted 1:22:15.360 --> 1:22:21.080 to do me like that, Like, yeah, we talked about yeah, broking, 1:22:22.600 --> 1:22:25.720 we talked about that so much. Yeah, I feel like 1:22:25.760 --> 1:22:29.640 they they should have brought you back ball Drop. I 1:22:29.760 --> 1:22:31.080 think it was better for you to go to my 1:22:31.120 --> 1:22:34.559 own better because you show the different side of your game. Yeah. 1:22:34.600 --> 1:22:36.439 I actually got to hoop. You got to whop. It's 1:22:36.479 --> 1:22:38.040 the first time I got to really hoop in the world. 1:22:38.080 --> 1:22:42.280 You got to hoop. So that was okay. So having 1:22:42.320 --> 1:22:46.400 that experience and being on the hoop, like how you 1:22:46.479 --> 1:22:48.160 get I mean, I know why you went to Feeling, 1:22:49.200 --> 1:22:52.080 but how could you leave Miami all right and go 1:22:52.200 --> 1:22:59.599 back to fath like you can? When I left Toronto 1:22:59.680 --> 1:23:04.479 to go to used to Cep getting hurt like that, 1:23:05.320 --> 1:23:07.280 that was our yet, that was it was over. See 1:23:07.280 --> 1:23:10.360 if you don't get hurt. We wanted that year. I 1:23:10.400 --> 1:23:13.720 don't care nobody saying talk about that year. So see 1:23:13.800 --> 1:23:16.439 you get hurt. We still had a chances. Didn't do it. 1:23:18.880 --> 1:23:23.000 He can say what he wants, all right, three two 1:23:23.800 --> 1:23:26.280 with the home court advantage, all right, I'll pay you out. Yeah, 1:23:26.320 --> 1:23:32.960 yeah you he That was okay, alright? What what all right? 1:23:37.680 --> 1:23:39.519 To get the call for me to get all that, 1:23:39.640 --> 1:23:42.080 all that stuff to happen, and then for my man 1:23:42.160 --> 1:23:44.560 to call me like, yo, come on, I need you, 1:23:44.640 --> 1:23:47.920 come on, Yeah, I want to see my dog win. 1:23:48.800 --> 1:23:52.840 So I got a chance to get the money I wanted. 1:23:53.280 --> 1:23:55.599 I wanted to full let I wanted the full three years, 1:23:55.880 --> 1:23:59.200 full mid levels to get that and then to be 1:23:59.280 --> 1:24:03.000 able to help out my guy get one. I was like, yeah, 1:24:03.080 --> 1:24:06.400 let's do it. I got I got it before we 1:24:06.520 --> 1:24:09.320 get out of here. I fuck with all the basketball stories. 1:24:09.640 --> 1:24:12.040 I love it, but we can't let you leave this 1:24:12.160 --> 1:24:18.400 motherfucker without giving us to be a math story. Smooth 1:24:18.840 --> 1:24:22.000 and smooth was it? Smooth was in it. But mine 1:24:22.160 --> 1:24:24.200 is different thought because it wasn't in Atlantic. It was 1:24:24.280 --> 1:24:28.040 in Houston. Oh. It was Envisions in Houston. This is 1:24:28.360 --> 1:24:31.880 the floor, George bro. And that was my first time 1:24:31.960 --> 1:24:33.799 going to It was actually my first time going to Houston. 1:24:34.200 --> 1:24:39.320 Oh and we go down there. I never forget I've 1:24:39.320 --> 1:24:44.720 seen with Tumbo uh in the club. Yeah he was disrespectable, 1:24:45.080 --> 1:24:54.280 remember that, yet I was him? Yeah, I love this 1:24:54.360 --> 1:24:57.120 story already's him. I've been on the island a my bro. 1:24:57.320 --> 1:25:01.240 This is two thousand. It's my first two thousand of 1:25:01.280 --> 1:25:06.679 four yeah oh four. Oh Envisaged Houston is just open. 1:25:06.720 --> 1:25:08.559 I don't know how long it's open whatever. But it's 1:25:08.600 --> 1:25:11.679 my first time in Houston. And they had like purple lights. 1:25:11.720 --> 1:25:14.000 It's like lit up like it's like a bro like 1:25:14.120 --> 1:25:16.040 you pull up. It was like I know it's I'm 1:25:16.080 --> 1:25:18.200 in college. Bro. I'm like, oh my god, this is 1:25:18.880 --> 1:25:26.800 bro like crazy. We get up there and they had 1:25:26.840 --> 1:25:30.240 like tigers and lions and something like out front, like 1:25:30.760 --> 1:25:32.960 like the people out there handing like handlers and shit 1:25:33.080 --> 1:25:36.479 like crazy. Damn, you know, what's going on? Bro? This 1:25:36.640 --> 1:25:39.920 is this is wild, bro, like real you see, like 1:25:39.960 --> 1:25:41.800 we get in the spot, like we finally get in there, 1:25:41.880 --> 1:25:44.000 we're like playing the bar. Obviously wein't got on table 1:25:45.160 --> 1:25:47.320 in college. Yeah, we just happy to be in there. 1:25:47.680 --> 1:25:50.360 And shall these dudes with the black like the all 1:25:50.400 --> 1:25:54.439 black on the ice on the room, like damn, they 1:25:54.520 --> 1:25:56.479 didn't like like you know what they didn't like. But 1:25:56.560 --> 1:25:58.200 I'm I'm hipped the game out. Were like all right, no, 1:25:58.280 --> 1:26:00.559 it's telling me. It's like I know where they are 1:26:00.680 --> 1:26:05.720 right like, Bro, they came around the corner. I don't 1:26:05.720 --> 1:26:07.479 know how many bottles it was, bro, but they had 1:26:07.520 --> 1:26:09.720 to buy out the whole case, like it had to 1:26:09.760 --> 1:26:15.639 be like forty or fifty, like actual bottles, like Christal PJ. 1:26:15.840 --> 1:26:18.679 Rose is like, crazy, we just standing there. I'm literally 1:26:18.760 --> 1:26:20.240 right in front of me. I'm just staring there looking 1:26:20.360 --> 1:26:23.320 like corny ass like little kid like looking like just 1:26:23.479 --> 1:26:26.439 staring like, oh my god. Bro. And they start throwing 1:26:26.479 --> 1:26:29.400 money there trash bags bro, and it's the regular club. 1:26:29.479 --> 1:26:33.360 I'm like, yo. She's like at this point, it's like 1:26:33.560 --> 1:26:36.280 it's like I'm not even partying no more, like I 1:26:36.320 --> 1:26:38.120 ain't even looking at it. What's going on? You're just 1:26:38.320 --> 1:26:41.400 staring like like yo, this is wild, bro. And then 1:26:41.439 --> 1:26:44.760 were leaving it and they had all these lambos front. Bro, 1:26:44.880 --> 1:26:47.639 I swear I've never seen I mean like they really 1:26:47.720 --> 1:26:49.599 the reason like that was like got in the cars 1:26:49.640 --> 1:26:52.120 and stuff like watching them, bro, like for real, it 1:26:52.240 --> 1:26:55.120 was like yo, like I gotta like, I gotta leave 1:26:55.160 --> 1:26:57.639 a comment, look like like for real, like they made 1:26:57.680 --> 1:27:01.400 you like that, bro. Seeing them was like, oh my god, bro, 1:27:01.920 --> 1:27:04.840 like what is that like? What is that like? Like 1:27:05.040 --> 1:27:08.800 nothing like that, bro, trust me. My story in Atlanta Blue, 1:27:09.200 --> 1:27:11.920 my first night ever going out in Atlanta was that 1:27:12.120 --> 1:27:15.840 tongue and groove Blue Da Vinci. I guess he just 1:27:15.960 --> 1:27:19.439 had got out. He had a all white lambo, I 1:27:19.520 --> 1:27:23.559 mean all white Bentley the GT. The coop. He pulled 1:27:23.640 --> 1:27:27.160 up in the Bendley GT. He get out and we 1:27:27.360 --> 1:27:29.479 standing in line to go in. It was a party 1:27:29.560 --> 1:27:32.960 for me, like rookie, welcome to Atlanta, Jeff T. I 1:27:33.120 --> 1:27:34.680 was only twenty. I wasn't eve supposed to be in 1:27:34.720 --> 1:27:38.840 that motherfucker. But we're about to walk in. They like move, move, 1:27:39.760 --> 1:27:43.640 were like move you know what. They moved me to 1:27:43.760 --> 1:27:50.160 the huh. We we already went over this ship story. 1:27:53.600 --> 1:27:56.320 I'm sorry, bro, I had a a raging boo. Yeah, 1:27:56.479 --> 1:28:00.599 good fleets had good fats, but my shirt was fuck 1:28:00.680 --> 1:28:06.960 y'all listen, it was fucking I thought it was kinde 1:28:07.320 --> 1:28:11.800 ya the nigga. The nigga carried through. They pushed U 1:28:11.880 --> 1:28:15.080 to the side. He walked in with like five five 1:28:15.320 --> 1:28:18.000 five to ten niggas and I was just like, who 1:28:18.120 --> 1:28:21.160 is that? But we're just waiting on Joe Johnson. Yeah, 1:28:21.280 --> 1:28:24.280 who is that nigga? And Joe pulled up was like, 1:28:24.920 --> 1:28:26.559 I was like, man, some nigga just came through, told 1:28:26.640 --> 1:28:29.080 us to move man. Everybody moved us in. This little 1:28:29.120 --> 1:28:31.920 nigga named Kevin Man shout outs a little kid work 1:28:31.960 --> 1:28:35.240 in Atlanta. He'll promoter. He was like, that's being your math. 1:28:36.520 --> 1:28:38.000 I ain't know who he was. So I got home. 1:28:38.040 --> 1:28:40.800 I started googling on this ship. You need to learn 1:28:40.800 --> 1:28:44.760 about them. They run Atlanta shit. That's when I found 1:28:44.800 --> 1:28:47.320 out about meeting him. They was locked up. Yeah, but 1:28:47.680 --> 1:28:53.000 that was oh nah when the max still gonna get 1:28:53.040 --> 1:28:56.960 out of the way for being methna different. I'm telling 1:28:57.000 --> 1:28:59.360 you really like you was moving out the way too. 1:28:59.479 --> 1:29:02.599 I got another the question too. So in the locker 1:29:02.680 --> 1:29:05.200 room y'all playing music and ship. Did you'll ever say, hey, 1:29:05.320 --> 1:29:10.320 Jeff take the ox, you ever passed bro who were 1:29:10.360 --> 1:29:15.680 in the who were in the music they love? I 1:29:15.840 --> 1:29:19.080 just wanted to always because me and him argue about music. 1:29:19.320 --> 1:29:25.519 The first of playing our locker room. It was special 1:29:25.640 --> 1:29:28.000 because it's like probably the only team I've been on 1:29:28.640 --> 1:29:31.559 where we like didn't play music on the plane and music, 1:29:32.080 --> 1:29:34.920 we didn't play a lot of music, like the people 1:29:35.000 --> 1:29:40.160 put his little pillowt sometimes while he'll play some music, 1:29:40.240 --> 1:29:43.160 but we ain't really like in the playing. It's the 1:29:43.200 --> 1:29:46.080 only team I've been on it was like that. Any 1:29:46.160 --> 1:29:47.960 other team you asked me, I can tell you exactly. 1:29:48.240 --> 1:29:52.240 But that team, it wasn't like that. It was some 1:29:52.360 --> 1:29:58.519 real like it was serious. It was some real basketball like. 1:29:58.640 --> 1:30:02.400 It wasn't like like when they play a little way, 1:30:02.479 --> 1:30:04.960 I'd like turn that shit up. Yeah they would. They 1:30:05.000 --> 1:30:07.280 would right before we ran out. Sometimes it would play 1:30:07.320 --> 1:30:08.720 like Wayne or something like. It was a couple of 1:30:09.479 --> 1:30:12.200 one time me, what's the meek shit? Ye? Yeah, I 1:30:12.280 --> 1:30:17.880 had him played me, but yeah, they just went. They 1:30:17.920 --> 1:30:20.960 just went that energy and p any given time to 1:30:21.000 --> 1:30:25.400 somebody say turn on that nas. Ye know, these niggas disrespectful, 1:30:25.439 --> 1:30:30.960 bro I'm about start getting mad, bro Ya. They try 1:30:31.040 --> 1:30:33.200 to say Nas is weak, Na, that's not what we said. 1:30:34.360 --> 1:30:37.160 We didn't say that. You're not doing that. That's not 1:30:37.240 --> 1:30:39.479 what we're saying. We have video of it so you 1:30:39.560 --> 1:30:42.000 can see it. He was disrespecting a little way and 1:30:42.040 --> 1:30:43.560 I had to tell he was out of pocket. I 1:30:43.600 --> 1:30:47.479 didn't disrespect little Way. Y'all disrespected Nas. Y'all not gonna 1:30:47.479 --> 1:30:54.280 disrespect like that is really past, Like you can't for me. 1:30:55.880 --> 1:31:00.840 It's like all production and b and stuff like it's 1:31:00.920 --> 1:31:04.680 never his raps. Yeah, facts, it's all it is. So 1:31:04.920 --> 1:31:08.160 you can be a great rapper and not pick the 1:31:08.240 --> 1:31:19.679 right production. But fuck with not tough heavy he's he said, 1:31:21.560 --> 1:31:28.880 oh yo, not and then everybody else U I love 1:31:29.360 --> 1:31:33.800 kiss my dog, kisses my dog, but not listening. I 1:31:34.160 --> 1:31:35.800 I had an agenda when I asked you that question. 1:31:36.200 --> 1:31:42.840 You think kids better than us? You wo, man, couldn't 1:31:43.160 --> 1:31:45.400 that And with that being said, hey, shout out to 1:31:45.720 --> 1:31:50.439 help me. PJ. Tucker for I appreciate my boy for sure. 1:31:50.920 --> 1:31:52.880 I had on a podcast shout out to everybody. Hey, 1:31:52.960 --> 1:31:55.120 this is my shot to the blue cups. Hey, like, 1:31:55.400 --> 1:31:59.080 look at that he was supposed to have it, but 1:31:59.120 --> 1:32:00.960 it don't matter. It's I don't if I don't even 1:32:01.040 --> 1:32:05.800 got one of those. Yeah, I stole that, and you 1:32:05.920 --> 1:32:07.840 got the you got the eight bottle I gave him 1:32:08.240 --> 1:32:14.040 on got me ye west Side taking over the city. 1:32:14.200 --> 1:32:16.639 And on that note, light Sear, subscribe all that good ship. 1:32:16.680 --> 1:32:17.800 We'll fun with y'all next week.

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