Sweep the Mets! The Phillies magic number to clinch the NL East is five
What a week at Citizens Bank Park.
The Phillies swept the Mets in a four-game series, putting them in position to clinch their second consecutive NL East title as early as Sunday against the Royals. Jesús Luzardo allowed five hits to the first six batters he faced, putting the Phils in a 4-0 hole. But then Luzardo retired the next 22 batters he faced, while the offense came back.
We talk Luzardo, the Phillies’ suddenly productive outfield, Walker Buehler’s debut on Friday night and more.
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00:00:02 Speaker 1: Hey, this is our ow and welcome to the Philly Show. 00:00:09 Speaker 2: Ben Tomorrow, Junior, Jim Salisbury, Todd so lucky. It is Friday, September twelfth, twenty twenty five. 00:00:16 Speaker 3: How is everybody, guys? 00:00:18 Speaker 2: The Phillies swept the Mets this week at Citizens Bank Park in a four game series. The magic number is five. It's time for the park's first pitch. First pitch is brought to us exclusively by our partners at Parks Casino, Pennsylvania's number one casino. Phillies opened the week. Trey Turner goes on the IL. Alec Bohm goes on the IL. Aaron Noah's pitching on Monday night in the series opener, he had not been good all year. Doesn't matter, None of it matters. Philly sweep the Mets. Magic numbers five. They could clich the NL East on Sunday. Jim, you asked me last I think it was on Wednesday. He said, when do you think they're gonna clinch? I said that probably probably next weekend in Phoenix, could be this weekend because everything goes perfectly for the Phillies and. 00:01:14 Speaker 4: The way the Mets are going and the Phillies are going maybe three losses in New York, three wins in Philadelphia. It'll be a very wet clubhouse Sunday. I think it's a long shot, but you never know. 00:01:28 Speaker 1: It's amazing. They played great game from great baseball, just clean baseball, great pitching, tremendous starting pitching, and an historical effort by our man Lozardo, who had a tough start to the game and then just wheeled it in and wheeled off twenty two straight outs. Amazing, and his stuff was fantastic change up and on ninety eight to ninety nine mile an hour fastball. He was feeling it yesterday, and man, it was a fun thing to watch. 00:02:03 Speaker 4: Well, one thing I kind of loved about this sweep. There was so much to love about it. There was that whole narrative they can't meet the Mets. They just went out and pounded the Mets in all sorts of ways, and they finish it with a dynamic, come from behind victory on Thursday night. I really loved the way every time the Mets made a mistake, the Phillies made them pay throughout this series. I mean Ronnie Mauricio pinch running the other night, he looks like he's running in quicksand Phillies capitalized. Ruben's favorite player, Jeff McNeil misplays a ball on Thursday night. Phillies capitalized, and there was another one. I can't but they just capitalized. That's what a good team does. When you leave an opening, you hit the hole and they played. They had a great series, Phillies. 00:02:47 Speaker 3: I don't like the construction of the Mets ball club. I just don't. Then I'm a center fielder. You know. 00:02:53 Speaker 1: Phillies were dealing with that as well. Series terrible. 00:02:57 Speaker 4: Where's the leadership? Where's the leadership? 00:03:00 Speaker 1: They really don't have any leadership, and Soto is going nuts. I think one of the biggest issues right now is Lindor has done nothing as a Blade. He's really struggled, and we he's sort. 00:03:12 Speaker 3: Of supposed to be their catalyst. 00:03:15 Speaker 1: I feel like Nimo should probably be leading off right now, and they should probably drop somebody, you know, drop you know, listen. I'm not an expert on the Mets, but I do know that just having been there culture wise, now, I know Mendosa, the new manager, is trying to change that good man, quality man, but it's hard to change it when it seems like your two biggest. 00:03:42 Speaker 3: Stars are not aligned. 00:03:46 Speaker 1: It doesn't feel like from my understanding that Soto and Lindor are aligned. And when you're not aligned and your big boys aren't aligned, like the Phillies are aligned, you know you got Schwarber, JT, Turner, Harper, all those big boys. 00:04:03 Speaker 3: They're all alive. 00:04:05 Speaker 1: They you know, real, Mutoh I said, I think, I said JT. Anyway, I think it does. I think all those guys are aligned to do one thing. I'm not sure if the goal for the Mets is to. 00:04:17 Speaker 3: Win a World Series. 00:04:19 Speaker 1: I don't know that the goal for that organization is to win a World Series. I know the goal for that clubhouse in Philadelphia is well. 00:04:27 Speaker 4: It seemed to be last year they had great chemistry, and they started off this season with good chemistry. They just it has evaporated at such a crucial time. I mean, we all talked about that sweep two weeks ago up and up in New York City Field, and it looked like the Mets might have been coming together at that point. But since that sweep, the Phillies have gone eleven and three and the Mets are four and ten. 00:04:50 Speaker 3: Ballgame the best players a playoffs at rate. 00:04:56 Speaker 4: It might not. 00:04:57 Speaker 3: They may not. They may not. 00:04:58 Speaker 1: So Alonso and Soto, I bet that they haven't gone out for dinner together or had an adult members together for two years. 00:05:09 Speaker 3: Just say it. 00:05:12 Speaker 4: That's uh kind of do that. 00:05:14 Speaker 2: I mean, you know, you know these guys do these guys do everything together. 00:05:17 Speaker 4: That's important. You got to play the fantasy football. You gotta go out for a team dinner or a bunch of guys and and uh, it's just weird. Though they had it last year. Man, they had it last year. They were great for four months and then into October. But they I thought they looked heartless and anytime they got behind in this series, they looked like they were done. And then they blow four nothing lead on Thursday night. I mean, cats off to Lozardo for just shutting it down. That was amazing. That was amazing. He gives up four runs in the first inning, five hits and four runs in the first inning, and you're like, oh, we're gonna be here one in the morning. Right. It was a two hour and sixteen minute game. After that first inning. 00:06:01 Speaker 3: He did not allow any runners. 00:06:04 Speaker 2: The first Phillies pitcher to allow four runs in the first inning and pitch eight innings since Steve Carlton in September nineteen seventy seven. Left he lost that game. The first Phillies pitcher to allow four runs in the first inning, go to eight innings and actually win the game since Robin Roberts in nineteen fifty five. 00:06:23 Speaker 3: Let me say this, that might have been the best pitching performance of the season may very well have been based on the timing of it, the importance of it, and the fact that he bounced back the way he did after the first. 00:06:36 Speaker 2: He was fantastic. 00:06:37 Speaker 3: You know. 00:06:37 Speaker 2: Now, like I said, now, the Mets are the Mets only have a game and a half let over the Reds and Giants for the final ANEL Wildcards, so they could be slight. Yeah, they seem to be in trouble. They're going back up to New York this weekend, so the. 00:06:54 Speaker 3: Mets gonna play. 00:06:55 Speaker 4: The Mets gonna play Texas, and Texas needs everyone they can get. It's gonna be a tough weekend for. 00:06:59 Speaker 3: Thee I'm up there and de gram is going to throw a shutout. You can twe miles an hour one seventy just saying. 00:07:10 Speaker 2: But it's uh, you know, great, great, obviously great weekend for the Phillies. They outscored the Mets twenty seven to ten. Listen are Yeah, so many big performances up and down the line up. And again they did it opening the week by putting Trey Turner and Alec Bowma on the injury list. And I'm sure a lot of Phillies fans were out there going, boy, this is not this is not good timing. Mets coming. Can't beat the Mets. They beat the Mets, handled them easily, handle it easily. 00:07:39 Speaker 4: What I what I rebound, you know, emotionally, you know, spiritually for that team to play this well, and the chemistry right now is as good as I've seen in a long time around here. Yeah. Hey, that was first pitch and it is presented exclusively by our partners at Parks Casino, Pennsylvania's number one Casinoparkscasino dot Com is the website. 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My buddy Paul Cassel at MLB dot com tweeted out something I think it was two nights ago on the Phillies outfield production. We talked all year long about their horrific outfield production. They were twenty six in Major League Baseball through the end of July with the six seventy seven ops. I mean, it was it was bad. It was it was terrible, terrible offense. 00:10:15 Speaker 4: You know. 00:10:15 Speaker 2: It was like the worst outfield production by Phillies outfield and at least a decade maybe not maybe longer post trade deadline when they got Harrison Bader their fifth best ops in Major League Baseball eight twenty seven ops this month in September, best ops in Major League Baseball Phillies outfielders one point one zero one ops, Harrison Bader leading the way, of course, in center field. Rob's gone with the full platoon in right field. He's got the platoon going in a little bit in left field. It's really made it's been just a huge difference. 00:10:54 Speaker 3: In fact, I want to mention this. 00:10:55 Speaker 2: I look this up. Since the trade deadline, Harrison Bay is tied for twenty fourth in baseball in war according to Fangrafts, Brandon Marsh's forty fifth. So you got two the more productive players in Major League Baseball are two Phillies outfielders, which is something that you never would have even dreamt of about two months ago or a month, you know, over a month ago. 00:11:18 Speaker 3: Let me, I'm not a big numbers guy. 00:11:20 Speaker 1: Let me toss some numbers before yesterday's game for four Thursday's game on from since May one, Brandon Marsh ninety eight games, two hundred. 00:11:30 Speaker 3: And ninety three ABS. 00:11:32 Speaker 1: He's got eight home runs he has He's hitting three fourteen three eighty eight on base percentage, four seventy eight slug and an eight four eight OPS. Think about that, MaTx Kepler while playing in the rotation when he plays right field, this is kind of crazy. He's got like seventy eight bats. He's hitting three seventy seven four to twenty three six fifty two and a one point zero seven to five OPS. And since the platoon started that rotation, I think it's like eighteen games he is hitting three thirteen, three eighty five on ops and a nine to two excuse me, three eighty five. 00:12:20 Speaker 3: On base percentage of a nine o two OPS. 00:12:22 Speaker 1: I'm not a big numbers guy, but that's some production. 00:12:23 Speaker 2: Brother that is in production. 00:12:25 Speaker 1: How about it? 00:12:26 Speaker 4: And Nick? How about Nick? I mean Nick Nick to Nick Key. I mean, he's disappointed not to play every day, but you know he has, you know, toughed it out, and he's contributing every time he gets a chance. He's contributing. His last five games, he's got an ops of over over over one thousand, and he's hitting three eighty nine in his last five, last five starts this month. So and he had a couple of big hit, real big series against the Mets. So they're getting a lot out out of that whole four and four man rotation. I think the manager deserves some kudos for the way he's handled both the alignment of the talent of the players, but also the way he's handled the personalities they wanted, you know, the whole town wanted Kepler going boom. He kept that kid's head straight, and now they're getting a nice contribution from him. He's kept Nick Nick's head in it that when Nick plays, he contributes so. 00:13:21 Speaker 3: A lot. 00:13:22 Speaker 4: I think a hat tip to the manager for just the way he has handled personnel and personalities. How about. 00:13:31 Speaker 2: I was gonna say, Harrison Bader. How about I was thinking about this, so Harrison Bater since the trade with the Phillies batting three thirty nine nine two ops. I was trying to think of, like man trade deadline acquisitions for the Phillies position player wise, when's the last position player that's it's been as impactful. I went to Hunter Pence. 00:13:52 Speaker 3: And twenty eleven. 00:13:53 Speaker 2: He's got it a hundred Pence in his first thirty five games with the Phillies had a nine to twenty four ops. Like I said, Harrison Bader had a nine to forty two ops. So, I mean, almost exactly identical offensive production wise, But Harrison Bader also plays just a fantastic center field and you know not that Hunter was an I don't even know how you would great Hunter. 00:14:18 Speaker 1: I'm trying to Rememberfeld average right fielder. 00:14:21 Speaker 3: He was awkward, but average. That's likely above average right fielder. Yeah. 00:14:25 Speaker 2: Yeah, so you think about Harrison Bader trade deadline pick up position player wise, incredibly impactful, one of the most impactful position players the Phillies ever inquired at the trade deadline. And I don't know, go beyond Hunter Pence. When's the last guy before him? 00:14:44 Speaker 1: It's it's been a long long time. I have to say this, and and and again. You said you mentioned that, Jim, Kudos to the manager. You know how difficult it is to take guys who have played ten straight years as everyday players and then have them be in a rotation or be aune and I have to deal with that. That's a tough thing for players to do. To make that adjustment it, he did it in a very slow, methodical way. I think that all along he probably wanted to do something like this, but it had to take some time. It had to take, you know, the right timing. I think when September rolled around, he finally said, listen, we have to win games as many games as we possibly can. This is the best way we can win games. And he started to make that move difficult for guys to accept it. It took a while for Kepler to make the adjustment. Kepler played every single day. Now he's playing in a platoon, and he didn't handle it all that well. He didn't get in a rhythm. I and now he is used to and understanding what it takes for him to prepare. He talks about it openly. Castiano's hasn't been there. It's never been there. He's a been an everyday player. And it's got to be difficult for because this is a guy that expects to play every single day. He has a routine. This is what he does. It's like waking up in the morning and have about a coffee. 00:16:03 Speaker 3: This is what we do. 00:16:04 Speaker 1: And and for him to make that adjustment and to have been contributed, I got to give some love to Cassie and certainly some love to the Kepler, but the manager deserves something too. 00:16:15 Speaker 4: No question. And you mentioned better. He's produced on the field. He's also brought this intangible energy to the to the ball club, some spirit he fits in. Chemistry wise, he's got the you know, he's got the pink batting gloves look like the things my mother used to wear when she washed the dishes in the seventies. But I don't care how he does it. And you want, you can wear pink polka dots. He's just producing. And irony is he has a huge series. He's having this huge run with the Phillies, a huge series against the Mets, and he just did He was with the Mets last year and he just did not hit in the second half and that's why he didn't stay with the Mets. But he is making up for it. Man, I just look at a guy that is having an absolute blast and he's capitalizing on every at bat, every inning, every game, and the fans are just loving it. 00:17:07 Speaker 2: You just get this vibe right now that everybody's bought in, Rubin. You mentioned it at the top. They're talking about how the Mets are not aligned, that the Phillies are aligned. I was on talking with Mike Sealski and Rob Ellis on Saturday on WIP and they're asking me about Castianos, and you know, I'm out inside his head obviously. Do you think he could become a problem. We're worried about him potentially becoming a problem. It was something along those lines, and I said, don't even worry about it, because they've got, as you said, Ruben, they've got Kyle schwarbur In that clubhouse, JT Real, Muto, Trey Turner, all these guys, you know, any hypothetical player that might be unhappy or miserable because of playing time or whatever. I don't think it's going to affect that clubhouse because these guys are very focused. They have a lot of tremendous leadership in there. And you've slowly seen it, as you guys just said. Max Kepler turn around and now he's like, hey, I wasn't really cool about this earlier on, but now I've accepted it, and now hey, it's pretty fun. And now we're trying to win a World Series. 00:18:07 Speaker 3: And you know, you win a. 00:18:09 Speaker 2: World Series as a part time player, as a platoon player. Now you go into the free agent market, you have a little bit more extra shine on you. 00:18:17 Speaker 3: Maybe you can get. 00:18:18 Speaker 2: That multi year deal or whatever and become an everyday player again. 00:18:22 Speaker 1: So I always believe that there was this cycle of development of players who were like became everyday player. So at one point you're trying to do what you can to get to the big league, and then you're trying to establish yourself as a big leaguer, and then you want to make your money. 00:18:37 Speaker 3: And once you make your money. Then you realize, you know what. 00:18:40 Speaker 1: It'd be really nice to be a world series you know, champion. And I think that that sort of has to be going through their minds Kepler's made plenty of money. Casianos has made plenty of money. It's now time for them if they're smart, because they've got generational money. If they're smart, let's put a ring on a finger, dude, let's just do it. And I think that's got to be going through you know, traps, and through their brains and their hearts, because not very many people get to get to wear these suckers and and uh and I got to believe it. They're that at the point where they understand, like, we're still gonna make our money, and we made our money. Let's get a ring too, Why not? 00:19:22 Speaker 4: And you can't get down if you're playing time isn't what you wanted to be in September, you can't get down. And the reason for that is you're gonna be on the postseason roster, You're gonna be in the rotation. You're gonna see some time in October, and you have a chance every time you're in there to be an October hero. You don't have to be getting four at Bad tonight. You don't have to be starting every game of a postseason series to be an October Hero. All it takes is one moment, So you need to keep your head on straight and be ready when you meet that one moment. 00:19:54 Speaker 2: Great point, the awesome. Absolutely, absolutely. The Phillies played the Royals this week. Weekend Eagles. Eagles are on Sunday, a lot of stuff going on. You can go down to Park Casino. Reuben. 00:20:09 Speaker 1: Yeah, our favorite favorite casino, the one I would only, the only one I would recommend. 00:20:13 Speaker 3: The football is back end. 00:20:15 Speaker 1: The Birds are a one point favorite Kansas City on Sunday in a big game rematch. The over under total is forty six and a half points. And there's also Saturday college football. Penn State plays Villanova, Tempa plays at Oklahoma Live bet while you watch the game live bet on the bet Parks app. Bet Parks is the only sportsbooking online casino app that I would ever recommend my team at. The bet Parks online sportsbook and casino has a great offer for new users. 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I mean, he's got ten postseason wins, a lot of experience there. But you know, coming back from too Tommy John Surgers, it's been slow. He's trying to put it together. And you know he's here as the sixth starter to give everybody a little bit bit of a blow, but to see if he can convince them that he has what it takes to be part of the postseason roster. And talking to him yesterday, he made it very clear that's what he's here for. He's here to make the postseason rosters. He had a contribute. He's had to put put another ring on his finger, but he acknowledged he hadn't didn't pitch we in Boston. He acknowledged has been slow recovery from Tommy John. But thirty one years old, I think it's a great guy to take a flyer on. Depending on what you see here in the next couple of weeks. I would even have him on my radar for next year, depending on what you get from him and what the contract looks like he said that he almost signed here in the off season in Philadelphia, they're having talks with him and it didn't get to the finish line. But it really worked out well with the Phillies. Favorite he gets twenty plus million dollars in Boston, doesn't bitch well. Now the Phillies get him for a pro rated get a look at him at the pro rated minimum. So that's a good deal. But what it really resonated with me is him talking about his feel just in a few days for this Phillies team. Now, granted he has joined the team during this electric home stand, when they're at a peak and they're playing some of their best ball the season. The emotions of high performances are high. But this quote, I just if you give me a second, I want to read this quote about what he sees in the Phillies. I thought it was really a standout quote. He says, the talent is immense, the culture is really good. I think we have a lot of guys pulling on the same string. In my experience, that is a big part of it. I think culture is a big part of it. I think we have a lot of guys on this team that are very comfortable with their career and their role in terms of whatever I need to do to help us win one, I will do it, which isn't always the case. Not every team is like that. I thought that was a strong quote and a nice kind of snapshot of where this team is. And I think it bodes well for October because I absolutely believe chemistry, culture, momentum, spirit, doing it all together, brotherhood, esprit de corps. I think that stuff matters a lot when you get into October, and Walker Burele sees it in this team. 00:26:03 Speaker 1: Yeah, I will tell you that I played on a bunch of teams that had a totally different types of personalities and the teams, but the teams that when you get on the on the field, the nineteen ninety three Phillies, the nineteen ninety five Cleveland Indians, the two thousand and eight Phillies, all of those teams were teams not all won the World Series, but there are also teams that believed in themselves and pulled on the same side of the rope and had a great culture on the field and in the clubhouse. And when you can do that, then you can do that consistently and you have the talent. Talent's always number one. You have a chance to do some special things. I think we saw that in twenty twenty two. With this team, I think you have a chance to see it again like the two thousand and eight team had, and that was the reason why they won, because they had the chemistry in the field and the love for each other to do what was necessary to win a World Series. And I think that this team has that too, and I'm hopeful that that at the end of the day, they get a chance to have a parade here in Philadelphia, not just for the fans, but for them because they worked so hard to get to this space. 00:27:20 Speaker 2: You know, absolutely it is the Phillies. So the Phillies open up Friday night Walker Berley, we just talked about against old former Philly Michael Lorenzen. Michael Lorenzen. On Friday. Saturday, it's Taiwan Walker versus Ryan Bergert, and then Sunday is Aaron Nola versus Noah Cameron. Do we think they'll be popping champagne on Sunday? I don't know. It's a good I mean it's possible, certainly, but I guess now I'd have to adjust my expectations and predictions to LA sometime at Dodgers Stadium. 00:27:52 Speaker 4: It's it's really hard for me to think the Mets aren't gonna win at least a game against Texas this weekend at City Field. But they are in a spiral. I mean, I was watching those buses pull out last night out of the stadium in Philly this Bank Park, get ready to head north, and that had to be a long two hour ride. 00:28:12 Speaker 1: Don't think for a minute they're not thinking about having a face to round tomorrow or tonight, because that's a big deal for them. And they looked dominated. 00:28:22 Speaker 3: By Jean Doran. 00:28:25 Speaker 1: I mean, that was one of the most dominant performances in one inning I've ever seen. I'm talking about hitters who were good had absolutely no shot against this dude in those like twelve pitches he'd. 00:28:39 Speaker 2: Made it swinging against him. This week are insaying I was thinking about the. 00:28:45 Speaker 3: One hundred and two mile an hour fastball. Now he's dropping the knuckle curve. 00:28:49 Speaker 1: Good freaking luck because it's coming out of the same slot. 00:28:54 Speaker 8: Dude, it's special. I was on TV, which was actually the best angle. I will tell you that it was ridiculous. What I saw unhittable stuff unhittable. 00:29:08 Speaker 4: I know we're getting late here, but one also, one other thing I really liked. Thursday night, Harper had a big game and helped help that comeback, and he showed incredible emotion. And I love it when he puts performance and emotion together, and I think that ripples through the team. And he was into it that, you know, Thursday Nights win and I you know, you you get him for the final push here playing like Bryce Harper and taking that into October, playing a little bit like his hair is on fire, a little like we see when he's going good and that is you know, infectious. 00:29:43 Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe Bater's lifting him up a little. 00:29:46 Speaker 4: Maybe, I don't know. 00:29:48 Speaker 2: I think he smelled it for sure. 00:29:49 Speaker 4: All Right, Bryce is like, you know, I'm not you know, you got the pink gloves, but I got better gloves than you. 00:29:59 Speaker 3: I would love each each other. 00:30:00 Speaker 4: We're gonna love each other. 00:30:02 Speaker 1: Uh. 00:30:02 Speaker 4: That was fun, guys. 00:30:03 Speaker 2: We'll be back. We will be back next week. Maybe on Monday we'll be talking about the Analys clincher. Maybe not, but it's it's coming. It's coming in the next few days. 00:30:15 Speaker 4: Smell your lator, boys. 00:30:16 Speaker 3: You Jim. 00:30:17 Speaker 2: The Philly Show is brought to you by the Foul Territory Network. Subscribe to The Philly Show on YouTube and wherever you get your podcasts.