G Herbo talks 'Lil Herb,' Juice WRLD, Chief Keef & Chicago hood stories

Joe and Jada

Fat Joe and Jadakiss sit down with Chicago rapper G Herbo, fresh off the release of his latest album 'Lil Herb.' Herbo breaks down his career and the project, which boasts production from No I.D. features from the likes of Wyclef Jean, Anderson .Paak, and Jeremih. The interview ranges from hilarious to insightful with Fat Joe telling a story about Kanye West calling him to stop a Chicago gang war, Herbo breaking down Chief Keef's brilliance, all three agreeing that most of the problems that come up in the hood start as disputes over women, and discussing the legacy left by the gone-too-soon rap star Juice WRLD.

3:00 - Joe talks about a guest that cancelled

13:00 - Working with No I.D. on 'Lil Herb'

18:45 - Joe serving glizzies on Thanksgiving?

22:30 - Shout out Kocky Ka

39:30 - Joe's crazy Chicago stories

52:00 - Wyclef's genius & Juice WRLD legacy

1:04:00 - Hood wars always start over women

1:16:00 - Jadakiss' big family & childhood fight stories

1:23:30 - People losing SNAP benefits

1:36:45 - Chief Keef

1:40:00 - Herbo plays "Fallen Soldiers" & "1 Chance"

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00:00:00
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Speaker 1: Be alive is a blessing. Heart is great.

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Speaker 2: I don't even know how many times I got shot at. I didn't got shot at so many times and I'm still here. That is a blessing. Bro, I'm telling you, mister guard crack.

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Speaker 1: The game, top tier father, throw that ship on it, you know what I mean?

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Speaker 2: Ice Game is superb also one of the probably definitely a number one album that's out right now. Ladies and gentlemen, make some noise for our brother g Herball.

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Speaker 1: Appreciate your big broom man. Love you man.

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Speaker 2: No, you know, I gotta lay you. You know what I mean, No, I gotta I gotta let the people know what it is.

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Speaker 1: Appreciate you, big brother. Let's get it. I know this, lady.

00:01:37
Speaker 3: We will have a lot of light skinned guys on the fucking show, right Ai Common.

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Speaker 2: It's like we really, I ain't know you was looking at you, was going you're taking the journalism, take.

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Speaker 1: The fuck out of you.

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Speaker 3: Don't listen to this dome right here, Shot Town's on Shee herbal.

00:01:58
Speaker 1: We've been watching you for a man, how many years you've been in the game ship going on fourteen? Now, fourteen years. That must make me a dinosaur, right this man game fourteen.

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Speaker 3: So you're like, they're not looking at story crack crack of sawd They're not looking at you like a young artist, right, They're like, you're savvy that.

00:02:18
Speaker 1: Now he mean he's seasoned mediocre.

00:02:20
Speaker 3: For me, not more in the mid of now he got more similar and he's on fire. You've been around fourteen years. You more on fire now than never before. Me and Jada we on the podcast. We're killing these niggas. They dizzy, these fucking niggas. They didn't want to commits suicide. It's like, Yo, these motherfucking smacking the nigga but they disney flabby and sick. Oh what's your jodieacs. So get the fuck out of here with that ship. This is the ship now you tell them herb you've been trying to get on here.

00:02:58
Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: No, I've been overly like I to wake to do this ship like for real, for really, you know, brother, I put I saved this fit for the day.

00:03:06
Speaker 1: Everything, all this ship that this is all intention that way. The coach his fucking coult dumbs up appreciate it.

00:03:13
Speaker 3: And then another guy came up and he said his gear wasn't ready. He walked in and everything. Another leader of the new school to be dripped out walked up. He's seen niggas in first ship and all that that niggas said, come back next time, Joe, I'm not ready.

00:03:27
Speaker 1: You know that's a fact. No, that's a fact. A guy that y'all.

00:03:31
Speaker 3: Considered one of the flys niggas in a that my Lion.

00:03:35
Speaker 2: And my Lion jentlemen talking about flying God West shide Gun stepped then why you he wasn't ready to because he throw that ship on.

00:03:47
Speaker 1: Ship. We gotta ca. You know he's shut on. He did now he got one.

00:03:55
Speaker 3: He got on, now he got so he's gonna come back now when he got a probably anyone bring.

00:04:03
Speaker 1: Bring us some sneakers too.

00:04:05
Speaker 3: When he comes back, I'm gonna have to throw the extra terrestrial ship on ship gonna still be breathing. This ship is going to eat that ship going still face popping up, is gonna still be breathing.

00:04:18
Speaker 1: That niggame dead yet, niggas, i'ma be up here like this. You gotta ship this.

00:04:26
Speaker 2: Ship about the goat now some ship that was all intentional. I laid my fit out on the couch.

00:04:32
Speaker 1: That's how it feels like I really do this drip ship. And what my room looked like as you supposed I got.

00:04:37
Speaker 2: I probably got one hundred thousand and drip just in the hotel room on the couch, laid out for.

00:04:41
Speaker 1: This what I'm talking about.

00:04:42
Speaker 2: Talk slow to these niggas that on the real drip Slow to these niggas here, man for riff.

00:04:47
Speaker 3: I've been I dressed like the man. I ain't gonna lie to you know how people got gambling part. People go gamble this when you know yourself. There's gamblers who sign themselves up the casino be like, YO, don't allow me the game. I swear to god, this guy's really blowing the fucking mortget you the house and up get to a point where they go to all the casinos and be like, YO, don't let me in. I'm about to go shopping therapy. I want somebody to sign me out. I'm tired of binding fot I gotta get out of here. Burn Off kicked me out your phone. Gucci gotta take your eyes.

00:05:25
Speaker 1: He said that, Nigga.

00:05:26
Speaker 2: I ain't gonna lie of Nigga just said before we before we start this, you said, yeah, I'm at the Knicks game and ship Louie down to the ankles.

00:05:35
Speaker 3: I'm moving to the YO. Listen, thank god. I don't sell drugs because I want an outfit. I told you on the show. Did I not tell you on the show? Whoever wear gear, whoever's into fashion. It's a lot of people we know do not come to the game. Yeah, for sure, do not come to the game because it's gonna be real painful for you. When you look over, its gonna be like an eye sore.

00:05:59
Speaker 1: I'm I'm a dump.

00:06:00
Speaker 3: So that giraffe to go with. It looked like it came with the come on watch, looked like it came with the jacket like you together, came with the ship accessively.

00:06:11
Speaker 1: Man, what the fuck? Man? He can't make this ship up, no bullshit. And the man told me come in the shoe.

00:06:19
Speaker 3: He said, damn Joe, He said, why are you wearing all that while you got all that on?

00:06:23
Speaker 1: I said, listen, this.

00:06:25
Speaker 3: Is years of abuse. This is years of pain. You guys wanted me better in jail. So while you throw that camera on and I'm caught side on that jumbo trunk, you're gonna read Louis all day. And let me tell you something. That ship went so viral. I thank god. I don't sell drugs and nothing. I said, Yo, this is.

00:06:53
Speaker 1: Lucas had me hot, Sherry Sheppard. Everybody talking, Man, who the fuck is this nigga?

00:06:59
Speaker 3: That ship happened hot somewhere else, sweating bullets like, Yo, this ship.

00:07:07
Speaker 1: I don't know if I did the right stay thank gobble Taxi. He was my kniggs. As he was hating on you, but hating in the back, tied on her. Yeah, because they came back and you gotta just like when you get so fresh.

00:07:21
Speaker 3: If you're on the street, you gotta start some ship.

00:07:28
Speaker 2: Like hey, man, if you're on the streets, you're on the streets or whatever you're doing. Man, If you ain't, if you ain't really, if you ain't wi legit yet, you gotta watch the ship.

00:07:36
Speaker 3: You well, you might have a fair time. Might get you fair time. If you get fair timeed she was like, Dad, let's do a TikTok. It was right out of here.

00:07:46
Speaker 1: We on our way to the game. And I don't know that she's playing me.

00:07:49
Speaker 3: It's like, you know, uncle, it's like your your father dressed whack or whatever.

00:07:53
Speaker 1: It doesn't happened.

00:07:55
Speaker 3: If I'd have took the outfit off the ship be standing by itself.

00:08:00
Speaker 1: It was.

00:08:02
Speaker 3: It was too much paraphernalia in that ship. That ship was contraband. Ma biddy, I'm telling you, I got scared. Two days later, two days later, I don't know where I'm at Vegas or some ship Conflix.

00:08:14
Speaker 1: Come.

00:08:16
Speaker 3: I got scared of that. I said, Yo, we're not selling drugs, no more, right, we ain't doing nothing. Were hot right now? This ship, this ship done got me. This ship, this one of them hot as this one of.

00:08:28
Speaker 1: Them hot outfits. I did too much. But anyway you're heard.

00:08:33
Speaker 3: Well anyway, I want to sign anybody help me hit James at the email. Anybody got a psychiatrist something. I'm gonna go broke. I'm not lying to you guys. I can't do it no more. I have to admit to myself.

00:08:50
Speaker 1: Go fuck me. How about jokes came Nigga, I gotta stop. As soon as we leaving, I'm see him at Louis or burn it. You got the problem to You just left Louie. You just left burned off.

00:09:04
Speaker 3: I'd be like, yeah, yeah, I just left the joint man. But you know he we ain't have ship.

00:09:09
Speaker 1: I got it.

00:09:09
Speaker 3: I gotta I got a slogan with my ship. We ain't have nothing. You know what I'm saying. They would give me the sneaker three years after it was this.

00:09:17
Speaker 1: Let me tell you. One year I worked some of you.

00:09:20
Speaker 3: I bought a green sweat, a blue sweat soup, and a red one, and by the year was through the middle of school season was fresh for the first sek Nigga had the green. The plued to ship the same ship every like. You know, they know I was fucked up, so I give him the pain.

00:09:40
Speaker 1: If you still.

00:09:40
Speaker 3: Around, guys and I'm doing that, you know what I'm saying because you know in past generations.

00:09:46
Speaker 2: Ill that you feel because I feel like that too, because I wasn't the freshest nigga in school or none of them.

00:09:51
Speaker 1: As soon as niggas was.

00:09:53
Speaker 2: Coming around, and now teen, I get back.

00:10:00
Speaker 1: I was fourteen.

00:10:04
Speaker 3: I was wearing Dapper Dad ice stout fourteen.

00:10:11
Speaker 1: It was over. It was over.

00:10:14
Speaker 3: After that, I was like, I was happy. Bunch heads. Yeah, I had a full set of foy. I'm about to go to Turkey and get my little cio. The other day, I seen the nigga. This nigga had all his head. I was walked in the watch store. I think fbsono or some ship, and the nigga had was like I said, Man, I wish I had.

00:10:37
Speaker 1: Ship like that.

00:10:38
Speaker 3: I changed my name to CEO and ship my ship flipping like on some bullshit. If I had, I'd be on some super bullshit like I'd be. I'd be irritating my ship to be curled up like finger waves all type of ship all the way out their head or look click wished with be like motherfucker had a full set. He's razy a Turkey's talking about this album that's that's dominating the street right now.

00:11:08
Speaker 1: A little hurt little herd. I wasn't. I wasn't working with no I D Man. That's that joke. That's my big brother, big y'all.

00:11:16
Speaker 2: I no I D Man, Big Bro and him and Make my manager who's been with me since forever, like they got a twenty thirty year friendship, relationship, brotherhood, you know what I'm saying.

00:11:27
Speaker 1: So no ID he wanted them like people.

00:11:30
Speaker 2: Throughout my journey that always just like gave his input through ship, through this, through this, do that, you know.

00:11:37
Speaker 1: What I'm saying.

00:11:37
Speaker 2: It's like I know I could call Big Bro and just like as an artist, you got to have people around like like no idea where you could call me like all right, but I need to get hot, but certain ship like that, you know what I'm saying. So it's like, yeah, it's it's a blessing to even be able to like have somebody like that in your corner for real, for real, Like you know what I'm saying, Like, yeah, so shout a big Bro and that even like getting that record done then the sample certain Ship, like he gonna make a call and get that ship clear like ding like you ain't even got about a power?

00:12:06
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, for real, real niggat godpower. What you want me to talk about the new fucking album? Man? You would this song? Fucking man? He legit?

00:12:19
Speaker 3: You know when I didn't lean back, I asked ten years, ten years, been legit. Still figuring me back because they always think we like illegal. But you saying I'm legit. I've been fourteen years literally legit. I've been a real tax paying lartists.

00:12:36
Speaker 1: I don't get it on sun.

00:12:37
Speaker 2: I've been paying taxes for ship ten years now, for real, for real, million dollar taxes. It costs ship cast some ms when it comes around, you mad like you pissed you.

00:12:48
Speaker 1: Got haven't been really going to hate taxes? I hate it. I hate it eighty y'all know what type of fucking taxes?

00:12:59
Speaker 3: This a different text branks feel like a nigga hit me on the head with all you know what I think though, hold on, hold on, we can talk.

00:13:08
Speaker 1: He's not even massage out. I pay taxes eating pats or type and ship out there.

00:13:13
Speaker 3: I pay tax Let me explain some of you I be thinking, I'll be thinking I'll be thinking, the accountants hate us because we make so much money. These guys make a regular salary and they looking at us and they thinking this is free. They don't think we really work. Rap niggas coming up in here with all this money and they be fucking like, give him extra, you all. I'm thinking this and this and that. I fucking hate accountants. I hate them this, I hate him.

00:13:40
Speaker 2: Pops runs all my sh so he and he still treats me like that. I come in and pay my taxes.

00:13:47
Speaker 1: Higgo ge wagon, the first one you gotta sign and here goes a mansion. Sock me. You gotta rub it in, you my father.

00:13:57
Speaker 2: You treat me just like a fucking real states.

00:14:02
Speaker 3: The countings hate people, their accounts hate people with money. I really, I'm really convinced. And they hate you. Man.

00:14:16
Speaker 1: They don't mean low blows. They don't give a fuck, bro, they don't care.

00:14:20
Speaker 3: They hate us. We make too much money to them. They thinking it's a walk in the park.

00:14:24
Speaker 1: They don't know. I had to go to the jungles of Africa the fella. But you know what I mean. Times we almost die like you, right, you young?

00:14:34
Speaker 3: You made music for the streets you still ain't crossover to like like me, I get paid wires, white people only ship, Like I already reached that. I ain't gotta get stabbed at the show or shot outside. I'm there now, corporate defense and ship. You're still in the junk. You're in Memphis, Tennessee, shot town for going to get that back for shs, you know, and they don't want to. They just look at the numbers to say, Yo, you made this, you made this, you made this. They don't know the type of ship we gotta do to go through. Surely get hip hop is a very dangerous.

00:15:11
Speaker 2: Like the most dangerous to be honest, for real, for real. Congratulations on the show. We pulled off a big event. Yeah, for sure, appreciate it. Look watching the verses and Copper, He's like, yo, in the morning, I gotta go fly out the Herve ship.

00:15:25
Speaker 1: I'm like, damn, I got I had to do the one. So what you did like your own festival?

00:15:29
Speaker 3: Yeah?

00:15:29
Speaker 1: I did my own.

00:15:30
Speaker 2: Yeah gonna be they bash at the wind Trust. That shit was sold out. That ship was it I wanted to be And they let you do that. Yeah, they let me do that. She was crazy head right because nineteen artists on the bill. Everything smooth and everything was smooth. Everything went perfect. We did the show, went out to two three clubs. All the artists went out, we party, had fun. Everything was that's build safe. That's when you get that.

00:15:54
Speaker 3: That's a prime example if you could work together and be and be positive and all that. Because people be scared of it like that. Like me, they let me perform in Katona Park. That's my hood. Yeah they never.

00:16:09
Speaker 2: He felt he felt that. That's my Look, it's my brother right here d front the Bronx. I'm gonna tell you some shit. Fuck your head up. I'll be outside in his hood and don't know what broth from one hundred and forty nine intent. Let's see you at the bakery for Tusa. We see you outside the bakery eating on the roads by in the Bronx. Yeah it's named that ship, but Tusa for Tusa, that's name of the bakery, Tooso Bakery.

00:16:32
Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure. Let's see you outside at the bakery in front of the roads. Tiffany rolls, Tiffany.

00:16:38
Speaker 2: Roads outside, he's just on the hood. That his car eating. Hell no, that's starting.

00:16:43
Speaker 1: I pull up. I'll be wearing that ship I pull up everywhere and that ship.

00:16:49
Speaker 3: Listen, I tell him, If you kill me in my city, shame on you. Yeah, ain't too many rappers. Thanksgiving coming up. We feed five thousand families. Just don't feed them up Turkey for sure. We give them the turkey, the rice, soup, the damn mizic, the dis to get everything.

00:17:07
Speaker 1: We're gonna put some Glasies in that motherfucker Glizzies.

00:17:13
Speaker 2: Yo, yo, yo.

00:17:18
Speaker 3: Let me tell you something that shame on you having Glizzy on Thanksgiving.

00:17:25
Speaker 1: Fact, I don't care what that Glizzy shouldn't make the men.

00:17:29
Speaker 2: You didn't even exist those Thanksgivings giving.

00:17:32
Speaker 1: If you tell me how the turkey Glizzy, I'm gonna tell you something, right, you, because you work.

00:17:37
Speaker 3: Out every day and all that, I'm gonna fucking believe you, right. But everybody laughing at the Glizzy. They eat the fucking Glissy. I walked in the nick game the other day. Somebody was sitting right behind me. Who you got stuff through these Imagine that you know you're sitting behind me. Stop fucking playing this. I'm just you full of ship, can't. Somebody very important was sitting right behind me. And when I went to greet him. He had a Glizzy with sour crowded muscle. I said, Yo, you got the glazy.

00:18:16
Speaker 1: Fine hot dogs.

00:18:18
Speaker 3: I look at the nigga, he got it, glizy with sorrow, crows mustered and all.

00:18:22
Speaker 1: I looked at him. I said, how to take this? Did you want to be the only one within it? Glizzy? Are you like I a'm.

00:18:29
Speaker 3: Gleazy with the man? The man, not the man, not gay? He there with his wife and all that, saying as much as people fuck with me over Glizzy, why I see the man and I'm like, yo, you got glas and plain View? If I was a cop, the faster light, the g flash, the light to see the butter of the black?

00:18:55
Speaker 1: Where was the glizzy? Glissy and plain view? Poll over? Poor over? What the fuck poo over? And all I could think of it say yo, you got the glissy right?

00:19:11
Speaker 3: Because they tart to make me think crazy like I'm the only to eating the hot dog. I see the shell, Say yo, yo, you got the glitz. He said Joe chills because he knew this ship was coming sooner or later.

00:19:23
Speaker 1: Wait, no bullshit, Wait one more time? Where was that? What Glizzy? Was that plain View?

00:19:31
Speaker 3: You know when the cops spool you over. They be like, I flash the light. I've seen the butt of the gun. You know, somebody call the cops on you. I walk up dcent yo something Yo, it's a glisy cleazy like cause you.

00:19:44
Speaker 1: Know they got me looking like I'm the only one to get anyway. Fuck that.

00:19:49
Speaker 2: The only one that eat glizzies in public is with promotion.

00:19:54
Speaker 1: You got a promotion glitz. I don't give a fuck. I'm gonna eat the glizzy and from of all listens, what the bro?

00:20:11
Speaker 3: It's blizzy? Bro, My home ain't gonna lie. You got a good birthday? Bro, that nigga said. Man, I just want to see one flag get thrown.

00:20:21
Speaker 1: Bro, my birthday be more flags.

00:20:25
Speaker 2: Happy birthday, man, We're gonna it's gonna be a lot of more happy birthday.

00:20:28
Speaker 3: Why k ski right now we got the latest episode? Is my man cocky Cay. You heard he's saying that Nigga's in quakiest hockey car. It's there big five honey, right that nigga beg Yo, listen to my man Kai like that man is my nigga?

00:20:51
Speaker 1: Man? Man, I love him. I actually wanted the text of man.

00:20:55
Speaker 3: I look how about if we ever need a third host on this show, we bring and cocky car. That is the funniest fucking show I've seen in my life. So he's sitting there about father's change it. He went up, dog, I need I'm trying to just agree with something. I'm trying to agree with him so he can lay to play.

00:21:17
Speaker 1: He's going up. I can just that's that fuck you gonna make him seven ondred.

00:21:21
Speaker 3: But I can't breathe, bro when I tell you, they almost strew me out my house yesterday because I'm watching this ship and the man say with the man say.

00:21:30
Speaker 1: You know when I'm on my cheat day, I'm.

00:21:31
Speaker 3: Like, I do that flat chick day, Like, who the fuck?

00:21:36
Speaker 1: What? Ain't no fund it here?

00:21:41
Speaker 2: Cheat day?

00:21:43
Speaker 1: Trying to get it right? Man with on his cheat and you actually gassing? Then, yeah, you know, dud, pull up up quit. I ain't no pull I know you didn't. I know for a fact you didn't. Yo. Yeah, we're supposed to race on Flicks Live. Man, you're put the race.

00:22:03
Speaker 3: He said, Ghetto gave him three him three cars.

00:22:06
Speaker 1: You know I got that week. I get him funny, that nigga funny. That was funny. We're gonna work out. I'm gonna give.

00:22:17
Speaker 2: I'm definitely betting on you. You could get him three cars in the thousand. You get that nigga three cars. I'm definitely betting on that for sure. Hard rock bets. You think they'll pull that ship like we can get that. We canna get a line on that. I might have to give him four or five cars. You get five, he might win fivey might we still not? Never I was Jennings, I really, I ain't even gonna tell you all this other I was ready to give him.

00:22:45
Speaker 1: A block all light, yo.

00:22:51
Speaker 3: That nigga gotta run about two cars, and he like, we gonna make it.

00:22:56
Speaker 1: Man, any way, I love him.

00:23:01
Speaker 3: I'm saying that first, if we need a third host, I want Cocky God because the man, he's a breath of fresh air.

00:23:07
Speaker 1: Great.

00:23:08
Speaker 3: And that was the funniest ship. I watched that shit like ten times last night. I just guyant laughing. This ship was funny. I foul, but fuck it. You know what I'm saying. He said, the cheap dare, I gotta throw the flag eight sat y'all threw thirty flags on me already.

00:23:21
Speaker 1: Ship started ten minutes ago. Plain sight, Glizzy, you got all the time being frash. That wasn't my charge, that was his. You know you cock. It was with the flash light and they're like, yo the gun I saw it.

00:23:36
Speaker 3: It was in plain sight, no tints on the window, see yo. I said, nah, noa, I don't worry. I ain't gonna through it to you like that. But you know yo, you got.

00:23:45
Speaker 1: Yo the guzzi Yo Nigga said, not that you for.

00:23:53
Speaker 2: People to actually hit a Glizzy at stadiums and arenas.

00:23:57
Speaker 1: Like celevities, this this shit, I think they still have it. I don't give a fuck man.

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00:25:49
Speaker 3: Anyway, let's talk about all right, so I could explain to you my career, right I don't know about jad his career. You know, he been doing even flying consistent. But for me, like my career is like one of them guys you see in baseball, like Big Poppy or Teas or the guy from Toronto. I either hit the shit out the park grand slam, or I swing and missing fall on my face. So my career, there's been times where I'm number one in America, and there's other times where I'm flopped mania and then now you looked.

00:26:24
Speaker 1: In and you gotta get back.

00:26:24
Speaker 3: I remember one one New Year's Eve, I'm in my mother's house recipes and I'm watching like that. You know, we grew up watching the Happy New Year on TV. Now, I remember I was sitting there at my mom's house. I was cold as fucking I said, next year, I'm on the Happy New Year, and shit, you better watch, I'm gonna.

00:26:44
Speaker 1: Be on that ten nine eight. And the next year I was di with a fucking Burgundivi law suit.

00:26:52
Speaker 3: But you, it seems like you fourteen years you went hot cool door for a little this this that tell me about that transition when you said that ship like I felt you for real, for really, like I think that it's a mental thing too, Like with us, we feel like that, like even when we cold, we're still hot because I was.

00:27:13
Speaker 2: Some people you ain't never not been that nigga to me, you feel what I'm saying, So you might feel like that, and I feel like that too. I felt like that many times. Like you know what I'm saying. It's like, especially with my career, like for the the show, you gotta go right hand so the ship don't go left. Man, somebody told me that yesday. I'm sticking with it for sure. Anyways, I'm saying all that to say, like with me my career, especially like I definitely it's been like a roller coaster like the hottest fish grease and ship cool off.

00:27:43
Speaker 1: And get cold and slow down. But it's like you just really can't stop.

00:27:46
Speaker 2: You just gotta stay at this ship, go to the studio, figure this ship out. The name of the game is RAPS. So it's like they're gonna love you. Then they might hate you, but they're gonna love you again if you put some ship out. If you put some ship out, that's hard and they gonna feel it, you know what I'm saying. And that shit, Like what that nigga, what that nigga, Missay said long at the streets is feeling a nigga like me could sell it, like just gotta put this shit out, just keep going for real. So with me and I seen that though, like from my perspective looking at the world on the outside, like I've seen people count me out for like all years over herbo trash, herbal garbs and.

00:28:19
Speaker 1: This and me menstally, I know I could rap.

00:28:21
Speaker 2: I know I'm onet of the hardest niggas to get in front of Mike for sure.

00:28:24
Speaker 1: So it's like that just feeled my fire.

00:28:26
Speaker 2: I seen that shit and I and I like the same way you said, like next year, I'm gonna do this, Like I really had a real plan and I saw that shit out like I'm like, man, next year, I'm dropping as much as I can. You feel me, I got a lot of shit in order in my life mentally and my personal life, family shit, getting through that shit, Ben and shit, all of that shit. But in the midst of all that fire, I still went to the studio and I had a plan. I had a strategy, like nigga, I'm feel the record my hardest shit and put this shit out in the streets gonna feel me.

00:28:55
Speaker 1: If I'm wrong.

00:28:56
Speaker 3: Right, did you grew up in the real street shit, And it feels like you had a point where you like, all right, I know what I gotta do to get to this next level I gotta do. And it feels like you're telling the homies, Yo, chill. Let me do what I gotta do. That's one of the hardest things to do, especially if they alleged killers and they crazy this and this and this.

00:29:21
Speaker 1: I really had to do this.

00:29:23
Speaker 3: Nothing like I'm I think that Joe invented the entourage, like I think I invented that. I don't throw no flags. I'm telling you truth. If you from my era, fat Joe might be one of the first guys you've ever seen with forty guys that look like they don't leave the block missing.

00:29:43
Speaker 1: These niggas an animal.

00:29:45
Speaker 3: I had to tell them, Yo, fall back, wish me.

00:29:49
Speaker 1: Luck if I make it. You might need something, Yo. This it's the hardest ship to tell a group of animals.

00:29:57
Speaker 3: No.

00:29:59
Speaker 1: Animals.

00:29:59
Speaker 3: You gotta say that roo saanamu savages, Yo, listen, let me go. And some of them get mad at you, and you tell a man. I had one of my mens that I don't want.

00:30:08
Speaker 1: To talk to deeply. But my man was Kingpin and that's my man.

00:30:14
Speaker 3: I mean, I grew up with him and this, this, and now I had to explain to the nigga. I say, Yo, you Fat Joe brother, you out here moving on type of shit. I'm trying to be legit. They gonna run me in some Rico ship with you. You too big out here, you get it's actually better for you to stay awa, stay away from Fat Joe because I'm over here on billboard doing whatever I'm doing and you and he never to this day, he never understood what I was trying to tell him.

00:30:42
Speaker 1: Crazy, but I'm trying to tell him.

00:30:43
Speaker 3: It's like a nigga, you know, you get caught, you'll be like, all right, come out the closet.

00:30:47
Speaker 1: Now we're caught.

00:30:49
Speaker 3: Now yore trying to get off the get out the speaker box.

00:30:53
Speaker 1: We're caught.

00:30:54
Speaker 3: It's like, yo, bro, we don't all got to get caught. And so it's hard for dudes to understand, Yo, I have an opportunity, a generational opportunity that one day you might need a favor from me.

00:31:10
Speaker 1: Let me go.

00:31:11
Speaker 3: It happened to me and I'm talking about me. I'm staring down the barrel, being in two eyes of a stone cold killer, telling them, Yo, I love you.

00:31:26
Speaker 1: I can't do it.

00:31:27
Speaker 3: You know I didn't you bed, You can't beat up my fans, you can't just this. That doesn't work for me. I'm looking please just hope I make it. I hear that in like your interviews and all that, when you at that transition and how's it going for you this.

00:31:44
Speaker 2: I'm in a good space now, like mentally with this, like this ship, you haven't what about them?

00:31:51
Speaker 1: Not all everybody?

00:31:52
Speaker 2: Hell no, I was just gonna say, like for real, for real, everybody ain't gonna get it. Then let him say this is the jewel the young No, yo, they ain't gonna all understand it. And like like the same shit you saying. I'm telling like I'm looking at you, and only certain niggas could really say that that you had to do that, that you really had to like separate yourself from this shit because you really gonna either die or go to jail, especially when you running with niggas like that. Like I used to have a hundred niggas at my shows too, a hundred niggas fifty niggas on the road all this shit, Like I really that shit is the proofers that are putting that shit on paper, Like you feel what I'm saying, Like even to do that and to be able to like separate yourself from that and be able to look at a nigga that's really in the streets, that's a stone cold killer, a savage, whatever it is, and be able to say that you gotta have that shit in you too.

00:32:36
Speaker 1: You feel me like I ain't never had no fear in my life.

00:32:39
Speaker 2: When you get to a certain point and you see like because I didn't understand what I was doing either, Like I didn't understand I was gonna be this big. But when I became this big and I realized, like damn, I'm doing some shit that I could change everybody life, Your life, my family life, everybody life. You feel what I'm saying, That's when you start realizing, Like niggas a be on some shit like they don't understand or they don't get it. Nigga be on some ship like you a bitch, you're punking out, You're doing this, You're doing that. When you had those type of conversations, you gotta tell a nigga, Like, Bro, if you don't stop doing this ship, you're gonna go to jail or you're gonna die for real, real, like, nigga, be naive to the fact, you know what I'm saying.

00:33:14
Speaker 1: It's like me, I never been naive to anything I was doing.

00:33:17
Speaker 2: When I was in the streets, I knew for a fact the shit I'm doing could put me in jail or I could get killed doing this shit.

00:33:22
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

00:33:23
Speaker 2: It's like, and you gotta have them conversations with niggas where it's like you just you can't do it. It's not it's no way possible to really have one foot in this industry and one foot in the streets.

00:33:32
Speaker 1: That shit is and it's to tell them you're doing really connected to Chicago. Yeah, well I don't know if you know right, and nah, he asked.

00:33:43
Speaker 3: You old enough, I'll know if you know what time it is right on another level, okay.

00:33:49
Speaker 1: And it's so hard to walk two blocks. Yeah, I'm not talking about the young ship we see niggaskill it just gang you can't walk to block fuck corgo for real.

00:34:01
Speaker 2: That ship sounds crazy, but it's for real though, Like in my neighborhood growing up like ok, like we'll be in the in the spot, chilling, hanging out, smoking weed.

00:34:10
Speaker 1: Playing the game. Niggas.

00:34:11
Speaker 2: Then left the spot. It got shot going to the coast, fucking blots. I want to know why they want to kill niggas. Forty below zero, it's forty.

00:34:22
Speaker 3: Below He watched a little bit are you are you watching with binoculars out the window to see if Homie go to the corner store.

00:34:34
Speaker 1: Then a forty below zero. I did a.

00:34:38
Speaker 2: Wedding for Eddie Robinson used to be in the NBA. But man, I think that's Eddie Rock. He had a wedding in the shot he.

00:34:45
Speaker 1: Rocked the fat dude, the fat fat dude, just the be.

00:34:49
Speaker 2: Not Curry. He was from the shot too. Yeah he wrong. I did his wedding.

00:34:57
Speaker 1: Now.

00:34:57
Speaker 2: I think I forgot needed some shades or something before on the wedding. So I went to when the apartment store picked up some some shades. I got the.

00:35:06
Speaker 1: Roll on from there from my sweet you was playing, got my hat some kind of way.

00:35:12
Speaker 2: A nigga came all the way from down the corridor.

00:35:16
Speaker 1: Jay, they catch you your cogoll ass nigga. This ship I'm like, what this is your hat? Me?

00:35:24
Speaker 2: I fixed my ship a meat e chargy slaughter, I'm wearing him up.

00:35:29
Speaker 1: That's it.

00:35:30
Speaker 2: The shy is one of the you know for sure, it's like the fucking I don't think like people really realize, like to the capacity of like how real, like how treacherous that bitch is?

00:35:39
Speaker 1: For real?

00:35:40
Speaker 2: It was a real error, like now it's not so bad. It's like you know what, No, I'm saying not so bad news as bad as fucks talking about this not.

00:35:48
Speaker 1: So bad with like the way your head like that's not as bad.

00:35:53
Speaker 2: It was a real error, Like you couldn't even think about wearing your head right or left if you ain't know what you had going on with that ship was what's possible to walk in certain neighborhood.

00:36:02
Speaker 1: You're gonna get your as hood? Huh it's caught.

00:36:05
Speaker 3: No, not as nice part you're talking about on same knife. That's that's my strip. I'm from say nine, Regal on say ninth, from seventy ninth.

00:36:14
Speaker 2: Nah, for real, it was an error, bro, it was an error. You got your hat left for right nine walking down the wrong street.

00:36:25
Speaker 1: Your asses, grass boy row over with for you when I tell you he was dead.

00:36:31
Speaker 3: Yo, your props don't even know what was like because I told you this story.

00:36:35
Speaker 1: Show you acting like it was a regular. It's crazy. Used to be real shows. Theater.

00:36:40
Speaker 2: Huh man, No know it. That's one of the theater. That is all. I'm gonna listen to your story. That's one of the worst fun Satday Knights Drew. I'm from Saday ninth. That's one of the worst. That's over the east that.

00:36:53
Speaker 1: In my hood. Oh, this guy, he's too young. This guy don't want to stand. I'm from there. Nigga.

00:37:00
Speaker 2: Uh no, it ain't a flag.

00:37:05
Speaker 3: I'll tell your story. Let me tell you something. I'm gonna tell your true story, right, And I never said this publicly. One time I get a phone call. This is how much you know. I'm connected to Chicago. One day I get a phone called Kanye West. He said, the Latinos and the black dudes was in the war. He said, you're the only one that could stop it. Come to Chicago and stop. I said, nigga, I can't stop ship. I'm saying he called me to stop the ship out there.

00:37:34
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, we.

00:37:36
Speaker 3: Got a saw where they got a fucking.

00:37:39
Speaker 1: Midget with a mac of leven under him like.

00:37:42
Speaker 3: That a midget a little on the fucking ship has a machine gun under him. Every gang you e a named, was in that bitch and they took the Let me tell you.

00:37:58
Speaker 4: Some big ship out happened, right, big shit. Every gang was in that theater for sure. They hate each other, right, niggas was coming, yo, Listen, he was there. I was stilling sorry for him. I was not gonna leave with malonean he was. He didn't know about that to this count yo, he did not know.

00:38:18
Speaker 1: But it was some things.

00:38:19
Speaker 3: It was a time where they were robbing everybody who went out there, and they set up ap b y'all guess what y'all come to this show, we robbing you.

00:38:28
Speaker 1: It is what it is. Weather Jaden probably didn't know. I went with Extra Jersey. I had the ugly niggas in the audience in a major way. But shit went crazy.

00:38:42
Speaker 3: No, I'm telling me, I had the ugly niggas in the area, trust me, the man go.

00:38:49
Speaker 1: It turned into a whole right. You knew who was there. Anthony Mason, Rest in peace, Anthony Mason.

00:38:56
Speaker 3: He from there recipes Aunt Mason for the New York knxte not from Chicago. He threw that ship. Yeah something No, but listen, Anthony Mason was dead. It popped off so crazy. I'm telling you. They got a midget with a Mac of eleven on stage, a little person.

00:39:16
Speaker 1: Everybody got a gun in there. That's what I'm trying to tell you.

00:39:19
Speaker 3: That shit could have been Grand Corral like they were just letting you, hay, we gotta go. We got it, got a three fifty seven come inside like it was the scariest ship in the world.

00:39:28
Speaker 1: It was Auguly. You didn't even know, right. I remember looking at you.

00:39:32
Speaker 3: I said, damn Jay, they don't even know what's going on, right, So I go over there. Actually we went right. Anthony Mason started pushing me by, so wyot go, Joe go. He's trying to get me out of there, right, just lean backs number one right, my dj lv LV I looked like this.

00:39:52
Speaker 1: He was on stage with the equipment.

00:39:54
Speaker 3: We were about to perform that Nigga was out the door fast that he was gone, just connected the ship like this, Hey, motherfucker was gone. So I look at him run past me and said, you know what they gonna think we pussy in Chicago for having going out of here.

00:40:11
Speaker 1: I said, yo, l He said, what lean back? Lean back?

00:40:20
Speaker 3: Fuck the forty minute show. Just go to the drugs, lean back with number one in America.

00:40:25
Speaker 1: That sh shit. They forgot they was fighting. They started lean.

00:40:33
Speaker 3: Back ship like twenty twenty shining back.

00:40:38
Speaker 1: I could not leave. I didn't even know where this shit was going. Man, Yo, I ain't knowing he was going. No leader, drink this pussy man. I felt pussy, Get him a drink.

00:40:48
Speaker 3: I felt pussy because Anthony Mason, probably the toughest nick ever, is pushing me out gold yoe go. When I turned around and looked for my DJ to be like yo, el me, that nigga was already outside.

00:41:01
Speaker 1: He ran with the equipment, ran out his ship. He wanted that ship was crazy. So who the fuck play leaned back? V I don't go back? I said, y'all, oh back?

00:41:11
Speaker 3: He said, if you won't come straight to the drugs, no cut, no cut, the pure go lean back number one.

00:41:18
Speaker 1: They forgot they was fighting.

00:41:21
Speaker 3: We performed. That's a legendary, yo, yo Jada. It was very scary in there. I'm telling you, shot town is up.

00:41:30
Speaker 1: No theater.

00:41:31
Speaker 2: Legendary for sure, only been inside of that one time in my life. That shit been shutting theater probably been closed fifteen years for sure.

00:41:38
Speaker 1: Only been in one event in theater.

00:41:40
Speaker 3: I've been in a couple events there. That's you know we had was there right, huh, that's crazy. You were sitting by the radiator. I don't remember where you were. That shit was crazy in there. But what I'm saying to you is shot. Another thing is they don't give a fuck about the police.

00:41:59
Speaker 1: Fuck hell, no man, young niggas shoot at the police out there. They don't get it. Ain't even little niggas is.

00:42:07
Speaker 2: And I'm talking about that little niggas, big niggas, medium niggas, orange greens, small.

00:42:11
Speaker 1: You know.

00:42:13
Speaker 3: You know how many times I'm in Chicago and the cop is there and the nigga dropped his gun in the world in front of the cop and the cop just turned his cheek like he don't know what's going on, and the nigga throw the gun in the I I've been there with the cops, know yo, these niggas that kill me, Let me chill unless the cop is on bullshit now, for he know, let me chill.

00:42:40
Speaker 2: Nobody Everybody in Chicago and it's it's crazy. It's like you know, like man, shout out to all the police out there to protect the serve.

00:42:47
Speaker 1: Man. They gotta they got a guy, damn real.

00:42:51
Speaker 2: Job, bro, because like in Chicago, bro, in the streets, like niggas don't got no regard for police.

00:42:56
Speaker 1: You feel what I'm saying like that, it's the high speed.

00:42:58
Speaker 3: How about that's the only place, not even l A. I've been with anywhere you can name in l A, every hood, this and that. I've never seen the place other than Chicago with no disregard for with no respect for the They don't care.

00:43:15
Speaker 2: I was one of them. I ain't used to give either. I ain't you wasn't like I ain't want to ja. I don't care about none of that. I ain't care about none of that.

00:43:23
Speaker 1: Ship man. I'm blessed to be here, bro. But that's just like the coaches.

00:43:27
Speaker 3: I can't run the cop. Hell, I always respect the cop. Let's get up out of here, yo. I knew that. The one thing I knew that my mother and father always taught me since I was a kid, is yo, tell them you got a lawyer.

00:43:40
Speaker 2: I knew this either have a layer. Pops taught me, we have a lawyer, couldn't afford one. We couldn't afford one. I'd be like, yo, I know my rights. I got a lawyer.

00:43:48
Speaker 3: That's the first thing they taught me. That ship like a B C d G. Six seven years old. It was like I got a lawyer for first the lawyer. I was like ten years old. First time I got arrested. Little bullshit.

00:44:03
Speaker 1: Ten years old. First time you got the jails, they locked you out four Friday ass shit. I was young at my homie crib.

00:44:11
Speaker 2: We his mom's wasn't as I went to jail for the safe ship for the first stop gag in the morning.

00:44:17
Speaker 1: I know what he's saying. I know I went to jail for the same ship.

00:44:23
Speaker 2: We went upstairs to the roof of his crib and the apartment building. I don't even remember how the fun we went up to the roof and climb We went to the third floor. You know how you could climb on the ladder and go up to the roof of a building. We went and did that and was throwing bricks off the roof on like just throwing bricks and ship out at cars, moving cars going down the street. He lived on a busy street. We just doing that shit for like an hour. But just how we got arrested. Our dumb ass We got bored and started dropping the bricks on the cars on the street.

00:44:52
Speaker 1: So that was how we got caught. Because it's like they coming from down.

00:44:55
Speaker 2: You could tell somebody doing the ship from this building from the top of the ship, and somebody caught up.

00:45:00
Speaker 1: Police.

00:45:00
Speaker 2: Police came, got in the building and probably one of the tennants was like, man, that's the badass words right there on the second floor, like you feel me.

00:45:07
Speaker 1: They came locked by us up those first time.

00:45:09
Speaker 3: My man threw a party in his house. His mother and father was out of town. They locked all of us up. I was I was maybe could we say thirteen fourteen, but they locked twenty niggas the whole party. They thought we broke in there something. They locked every body up. And it was the first time I went to the priests and whatever whatever that is locked up and man, he threw a party.

00:45:33
Speaker 1: And we know the lady, we know the man, we know. No, they really booked off like trespassing us. It was just yeah, it locked that.

00:45:39
Speaker 2: I got locked up like that before tu though, like a party full of people. Everybody got booked shit like that.

00:45:44
Speaker 1: Ain't gonna lie. Life used to be like simple and fun of the bullpen be lit and it more for him.

00:45:49
Speaker 2: Twenty of the guys get locked up. You don't even give a fuck you in jail. Niggas just in there, just chilling, man. I ain't gonna lie like yeah, I'd have been a life used to be simple, man, little bullshit talk.

00:45:59
Speaker 1: About their feature. The hell you get white cleft? I you link that's too tough, man. I ain't gonna lie man, make put it. Yeah, white clef, that ain't even so side beach.

00:46:08
Speaker 2: That nigga is so solid like he I've been talking to him like almost every day since we did this ship, like yeah, he be sending me ideas to work on some whole water ships.

00:46:16
Speaker 1: For showing shows like yeah, that nigga jan real musical genius, like for real, sure to play the ghetto.

00:46:23
Speaker 3: I think he's the first shirt and I'm freezing this. A C is too much the back of my n nigga, this ship on the back of my neck, got that hat on that legendary fluff together.

00:46:38
Speaker 1: Y'all went too much. Y'all went too much. A C. You should have got that hat.

00:46:46
Speaker 3: Lord, Now this ship below zero in this motherfucker like, come on now, it's trying to match the sweat.

00:46:51
Speaker 1: No, I can't do.

00:46:53
Speaker 3: That's a nice ass for by the way, though, nice ass. First it was a gift shout out to Carolyn. All my people rewinded ten and she gave me a little gift. She said, brother, I bought you something appreciate. You know you put this ship, We put that ship on. When you an expert drip, you could just look at some ship like we look at that. Just know how much the costs side ship like that?

00:47:13
Speaker 1: You know what I mean, y'all get it. I ain't gonna say the number. How to be stop yo, I have to be stoped. You know what. Let's make a toast to the new album, Little Hurt.

00:47:25
Speaker 2: Let's do it all platforms, little herd our ship out here.

00:47:30
Speaker 1: Out now, let's get it. Yeah, I open I'll open an ace up.

00:47:34
Speaker 2: How special and meaningful is the Juice World feature feed?

00:47:39
Speaker 1: So I know that was your guy? Yeah, man, that's my brother.

00:47:42
Speaker 2: Man long their juice and just the music that we do, the ship that you know what I'm saying me and Juice World, mate, I really had to. I had to put that on Tuck. I put I put that one on Tuck. So I'm gonna do something else with with that record. Just when air time I think about, Bro, just be like a like a nostalgic feeling. I'll be trying to like relive the moments that we hear and ship like that.

00:48:06
Speaker 1: Nigga was just like a foreign ass nigga to be around. Bro, I ain't gonna out.

00:48:10
Speaker 2: Nigga energy was just great, like unmatched for real, for real, like that Nigga like yeah, let's get it.

00:48:16
Speaker 1: But that Nigga energy like it was just like super pure. Bro.

00:48:22
Speaker 2: Like our relationship and even of course we met through music through the industry, but like a sheit ain't used to have none to do with music, Bro, that shit like that Nigga used to just he used to make me rap Like I never used to want to get in the studio and do songs with him. I never used to sit him records like jump on this like nothing like all the records we got just was us vibe and have the fun in the studio. Bro, that Nigga used to make me rap with him. You feel me like he was such a pure talent. Nigga was just so good at that ship. I used to just want to watch him rap for real, for real, like that Nigga was just a different breeze.

00:48:57
Speaker 1: The god poor Champagne SUPs. You know that. Tu time felon to the new album, Lord Her. We're going number one week, were going number one album? Maybe, yeah, man, some of the finest of Champagne.

00:49:17
Speaker 2: A real shout out to our partners over there, Ace, you know what I mean.

00:49:21
Speaker 3: Shout out to the whole rock nation. I don't think we shot amount enough. Shout out to the rock team, letting.

00:49:26
Speaker 1: Us be in this prestigious space.

00:49:28
Speaker 3: That's Ray Perez, Jay z Wan, everybody involved. Man with Brigley, Laurie Ridge and Laurie everybody. Hey, because I take a game for grants. Two time, fella, take everything for grant, the whole production stuff. We appreciate.

00:49:44
Speaker 1: You guys got flowers out so they could get smelt. Man. Listen, let me tell you something.

00:49:50
Speaker 3: It's a lot of things that's pretty remarkable about you, right.

00:49:55
Speaker 1: Listen, let me tell you it's a lot of.

00:49:58
Speaker 3: Yeah, read the smart question, read the ship expert expert.

00:50:05
Speaker 2: I'm a school expert storyteller by the way when your record reached the algorithm, remarking with things fuck my ship up.

00:50:13
Speaker 1: My train of thought. You for us if he was coping me, it.

00:50:19
Speaker 3: Was about to be legend. Like I know, I forgot what I had, but I know it's gonna be legend. Listen, you're pretty remarkable.

00:50:29
Speaker 2: Right, appreciate it, yo Yo looks big looking big brother.

00:50:35
Speaker 3: You guys are fucking with me. Man, Charlie, y'all, you gave me a sip of this ship. Now you're fucking with me. You ain't gonna blame it on the ship. They got some of the best grades. But now that the ship can't do you like that. You're pretty remarkable because you have a wife, correct, yes, sir, and.

00:50:56
Speaker 1: Over here in New York we know her. So she was a baby just she's she's from here. No, for sure, your daughter like there for sure?

00:51:03
Speaker 3: For sure you gotta ex carol your baby mom. And you just shot a video money back.

00:51:13
Speaker 1: Yeah for sure, shower back. Man. What the fuck? Man?

00:51:17
Speaker 3: That ship that's you know what kind of ships?

00:51:23
Speaker 1: All my ex baby mom? They want to stab me in the next I want to meet him. That's my eyes.

00:51:33
Speaker 2: I'm gonna push him in I'm gonna pull him in. Man, your signy you want me your son? It's too hard real rock stop for sure.

00:51:41
Speaker 3: What we're saying is, how do you get that kind of relationship your son's mom bring them to your show?

00:51:48
Speaker 1: That's enough to start World War three?

00:51:51
Speaker 3: If I extinct could bring your son to the show with her had the man that ship is war? Like, how is this all? And I'm praying for peace to continue? Any How does that work?

00:52:02
Speaker 1: Man?

00:52:02
Speaker 2: You know, like the public perspective, like everything ain't always perfect in a family dynamic.

00:52:07
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like ship might get rocky or whatever the case.

00:52:10
Speaker 2: But it's like, you know, the little saying like I was saying that, it's like, you know how that ship what's the same. God, don't bless no mess. You just gotta just like be pure with this ship and lead with love and respect. You know what I'm saying, Like I ain't never not heard respect for bad I ain't never not hear respect for any of my baby mama situations. You know what I'm saying, Like shit like that. So it's like and it's the love we got for our children, bro, Like you know what I'm saying that shit overpower everything. Bro, you know what I'm saying, Like when it come to family in general, like every man, even if like I'm not even speaking on just only my situation, Like even if shit do be rocky like between like a nigga and his baby mama some shit like that.

00:52:49
Speaker 1: Deep down, you want it to work. You want you want to have your.

00:52:52
Speaker 2: Girl to be able to be cool with you know what I'm saying, Your new girl and shit like you want it.

00:52:57
Speaker 1: They just for you guys. You just gotta oh for that ship.

00:53:00
Speaker 2: Bro, you just gotta, like, you know, just try it, like you feel I'm saying a lot of people just don't try a lot of niggas don't like instead of trying to just leave it there, you feel I'm saying, like a lot of in a way, the kid lose. So it's like, you know what I'm saying, Like I ain't gonna never my kid ain't losing by any means.

00:53:17
Speaker 1: You feel what I'm saying.

00:53:18
Speaker 2: So it's like, that's that's my masset And I'm just blessed at that ship work in my favor for real.

00:53:24
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that's what is special.

00:53:26
Speaker 2: Definitely go down in history as a special human being, so certain selected.

00:53:33
Speaker 1: People under that unbroke will Smith, you and two other people that I don't know.

00:53:40
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what I'm saying, that people to see that everybody can get along.

00:53:46
Speaker 1: That's that's very rare. Yeah, no, for sure, you know what I'm saying.

00:53:49
Speaker 3: So it's it's beautiful to see it, super real that you're putting your son first and everybody's getting along. You know, motherfucker be mad and a dude because he was like his girlfriend's acts.

00:54:09
Speaker 1: Yeah, they be mad at you didn't even know him, right.

00:54:14
Speaker 3: You know how many wars happen because a dude will be like, Yo, fuck that nigga, this yo, pro, You didn't even know this woman when I knew you know that, yo, jady?

00:54:25
Speaker 1: You know this is very real what I'm saying.

00:54:26
Speaker 2: I feel like eighty ninety percent of wards and ship in the street always happened behind the female women. One thousand percent. I don't give a fuck what a niggas say that she ain't about money, drugs or block. That should be behind animosity, behind a woman brought and seeing his shit. WoT your mauion one thousand, million, bazillion times for real, for real.

00:54:44
Speaker 3: That's what I'm trying to tell you, that's how special it is that you able to, you know, get along with everybody.

00:54:50
Speaker 1: Because that shit right there, beautiful.

00:54:52
Speaker 3: I told him the story about my man, my man, she and jelfaf and not that, and then no, hunh he was he was one of them.

00:55:01
Speaker 1: Alleged, Well, he's in jail forever. He's never coming home.

00:55:05
Speaker 3: People come and be like, you know his wife, she she used to sleep around. So he come and be like, hey, guys, this is in the club. You'd be like, huh, you know Johnny, it works at the music thing, and he was with Lana. Next thing, you know, Johnny deader than the motherfucker, right, that motherfucker coming one day.

00:55:31
Speaker 1: I knew.

00:55:32
Speaker 3: They guys like, stop, she's a great woman.

00:55:37
Speaker 1: She'll never cheat on your ass. Mariio, Mario Madio gone like yo, bro.

00:55:43
Speaker 3: And then most these guys that kill off the woman the first day they're on the news for killing the dude over the women.

00:55:49
Speaker 1: She already moved on.

00:55:50
Speaker 2: Yeah, no for sure, so old where she fucking out both fans legs she ain't wait.

00:55:58
Speaker 3: Should I never understood when a guy dies, his best friend takes his wife or his girl and they'll be like, oh, no, no he did. I'm talking about a guy's dead. It happened in my hood.

00:56:14
Speaker 1: So many times, too many times. It's too normal to say.

00:56:17
Speaker 3: You always see Johnny and and and Willie all the time from kindergarten. All of a sudden, Johnny gets killed Willie sudden, new man. Johnny would have wanted this, He want that ship. Then the turn it over in the fucking grade. Like if they gave him one day, he come kill Willie and the motherfucker like one day, yo.

00:56:39
Speaker 1: You can go back up one day. That's what he's going to do.

00:56:43
Speaker 2: He's going to do that shot.

00:56:46
Speaker 3: That shot him no basis. And then, hey, let me tell you something. If my wife tell you, Joe would have really liked Ty wrong. She's a fucking life killed Todd wrong, Fuck him, drink kill that niggah. Don't let him come up in my crib talking about Joe. He would have understood. No, he wouldn't know, he don't. It's the craziest ship.

00:57:13
Speaker 1: The hood is crazy now, the Hood just crazy.

00:57:15
Speaker 2: Boy be really, that's just like generational diabolical ship.

00:57:19
Speaker 1: Where it's like, nigga, really you really wanted what I had?

00:57:22
Speaker 2: The whole time. They want to fuck it the whole time. He ain't comforting her. You don't happened by coincidence. Niggas doesn't. Oh no, I think he. I think they look good. I think they're right together for sick in the head.

00:57:38
Speaker 1: They all sick of that fucking dumb fuck. I've seen that times, niggas. I've seen that ship.

00:57:48
Speaker 2: I could not understand that that ship gotta be like off limits for real niggas.

00:57:52
Speaker 1: What that was just man? Yo? Nah, you know they understand each other well, and.

00:58:00
Speaker 2: It's certain niggas like just a different breed of different clubs for niggas. Like I really could wholeheartedly genuusly say, like I ain't never even looked at anybody. I love wife, looked at they woman and wanted that ship you feel, I'm saying, like want it? They family and all, Like I don't even like had that ship before I was in a relationship.

00:58:21
Speaker 1: Have attracted. Nigga's got story right, I live in Miami. Got the big man should gold walls on type of ship. It's your spot you. I just wanted to clarify.

00:58:37
Speaker 3: Legendary ship and every house in the whole neighborhood is a man. She right, So I don't know nobody. I'm driving my house every day. This that the next door neighbor be saying, what's up? He's a football One night I'm in the club in Miami and I got that record out.

00:58:52
Speaker 1: Baby, I won't tell if you don't want me to.

00:58:58
Speaker 3: Now, this might give me stabbed by my wife because she never heard this story. But the girl they play this ship and the girl come up in front of me and she started dan like she bad.

00:59:08
Speaker 1: I mean see her neighbor. Hey, I don't know who the fuck she is.

00:59:15
Speaker 3: Said, I'm the girl that's always with the football player next door to be like this.

00:59:19
Speaker 1: Long story short, She was like, Yo, Joey, crap, what's up. I've been waiting. I said, listen, you trying to get me murdered.

00:59:27
Speaker 3: Niggas got guns in Miami. If that nigga know I talk to you in any way. He come and come outside of shop right next door. Nigga, I'm waving at him every day. You gotta be out your fucking mind, She said, Yo, sir, I thought Joey Krapp.

00:59:41
Speaker 1: But no, no, no, you thought yeah, for sure, you need to stay over there because that nigga gonna kill me?

00:59:48
Speaker 2: Geana is outside that smart, that's smart, real, that's diabolical. A lot of niggas like it's last certain niggas cross lines.

00:59:58
Speaker 1: Or whatever, like I don't know if nigga be in.

01:00:00
Speaker 2: The brain, Like that's the type of shot you rightfully logically, how you don't think a nigga kill you doing that right next door to me saying what something and.

01:00:10
Speaker 1: Make jiggas that ain't crazy crazy crazy was never gonna doe do it? Get carried. Nigga, don't get couraged behind a woman.

01:00:23
Speaker 3: No, no, guy who would never kill in his life, he'll kill a guy who would never kill.

01:00:29
Speaker 1: In his life. He killed.

01:00:30
Speaker 3: He's saying what's up to you? Every day, waving at you. Tell yo, this is a great guy. You know, the guy fact Joe.

01:00:37
Speaker 2: And if they if they prove him crazy, he only get three or five years.

01:00:40
Speaker 1: That's it temporary and same you like he was staying leaded process.

01:00:48
Speaker 3: Oh no, he ain't doing the day stand in your ground. You don't do a day in your ground the law legally. If you're scared like you, who's to tell you you're not sure? I would have said you I'm at the Denny's niggas is acting up. I shoot the whole place. I'm scared to dup. You get away with the ship. They can't tell you.

01:01:07
Speaker 2: You said, Okay, I'm gonna give you a scenario like this.

01:01:15
Speaker 1: For real.

01:01:15
Speaker 3: It is that. I don't know if that's staying ground, but like say, it's it's like.

01:01:22
Speaker 2: A nigga approach you, like a nigga approaching me, and you up the fire and like tell him like get back, don't walk up on you, and he come again automatically.

01:01:31
Speaker 1: I don't know if you could kill me with your hand. Truth literally, and I'm gonna tell you the truth.

01:01:35
Speaker 3: In Miami, you can't even tell him I got the fire back up because they'll shoot you in your face.

01:01:40
Speaker 1: In Miami. Let me tell you something different, type of guy. The niggas ain't even got sneakers. That for sure. Living to me, tell him you got back up and make him back up.

01:01:53
Speaker 3: Wash the white dude ship kill four kids at the gas station. They was blasting their music. He said he was scared. He stood his ground and he got away with it. I watched the news every day.

01:02:04
Speaker 1: I'm my old nigga.

01:02:04
Speaker 3: I watch the news. It's called standing your ground. If you're in fear, if you're a young lady, you're crossing the streets. These guys look like they scared you. You can let that thing fly. It is what it is. That's why Zimmerman won that because he was in fear of his life.

01:02:22
Speaker 5: He said that the fear of Arizona. I steer the package skins fair man. I'm rich, but what I'm saying to you is unfortunate that you get out of the floorida they killing They'll kill you. Man.

01:02:37
Speaker 3: You know, I go like this, We go, didd he's having a video and little Haiti or some ship like that.

01:02:44
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, we're keeping that. That's legit.

01:02:46
Speaker 3: Jimmy good here bought dick. Shout out the b I I know you're watching. Shout out to cheat though all of them. All my guys, he's care anybody watching that like this? Heybody checking us out? We like listen here, we let you old family.

01:03:01
Speaker 1: The man go.

01:03:03
Speaker 3: We go to his video and it's four of us. We are strapped. I'm not saying nothing. That's crazy. You all got the hammer on her. I stole whatever we in Little Haiti somewhere or something like that. When I tell you four kids about this. Skinny was walking behind us to the point we had what you We pulled the guns out, four of us.

01:03:24
Speaker 1: With the guns. This area, this figga right here. The niggas ain't got no this area.

01:03:33
Speaker 3: You'll be lucky to see a chaqueta banana nigga like there ain't no diamonds, no nothing fly caught.

01:03:39
Speaker 1: This here is like third world country.

01:03:43
Speaker 3: I actually saw these kids thinking about how they could jump around the bullets and get to me, and we kept telling them, we're gonna shoot your face off.

01:03:54
Speaker 1: I'm telling you the truth. I'm telling yos. They trying to jump around.

01:04:01
Speaker 2: The bus cuts out that he's thinking about how they jump around them.

01:04:06
Speaker 1: But my man hitched them.

01:04:07
Speaker 3: All four of us had guns out, and I'm telling them, bro, you're not getting through. We're gonna let this thing go like you're not making it. And I actually seen them, you know, when you can see people thinking. Guys was thinking about how they could dive around the bullets. That's how bad and fucked up it is over there. They want to get his area is like that. Oh no, it's areas where I ain't met nobody that fast yet.

01:04:35
Speaker 1: Though. But no, no, no, they was gonna. I ain't seen a movie. I ain't seen him that fast.

01:04:41
Speaker 3: It's a guy that be telling stories on the YouTube, right, who don't know me from the cannapaign. I bumped into him in La after the club. He had his man with them once again. We had nine niggas with guns out like this. He got one fat boy. He keeps trying to with me on the internet. That's cool, you know what I'm talking about, right, And we explained the fat boy.

01:05:05
Speaker 1: Fat boy looked like he was about that life.

01:05:07
Speaker 3: I kept saying, fat boy, by the time you reach for your yalla, it's nine niggas gonna tear you up.

01:05:13
Speaker 1: Right.

01:05:13
Speaker 3: Look, it's here, right. And the guy keeps trying to talk to me like I'm a punk. But he knowed the one time he ever met me, there was none of them things at him, and he walked.

01:05:24
Speaker 1: It off all right. This you know, you walk that thing off.

01:05:27
Speaker 3: You can lie on them youtubes with two views as much as what you knew. You wasn't that crazy if you got it moving right. But they be like trying to talk that shit. It's okay.

01:05:38
Speaker 1: I know we lick we young old niggas. Man.

01:05:41
Speaker 3: We got the ship, the algorithm upside and now on these niggas. Man, they don't even know you know what I'm saying. But sometimes anyway, let's get to a positive thing. Man, what's the fat album?

01:05:54
Speaker 2: Man, little herb n we're doing shit. Man, My brother's word and hard. You see him everywhere. And make sure you support these ship because they don't make these kind of albums. They don't this what is? This is what it is? This off topic and ship. But I really got it, like you've been telling me for years, Like I really I gotta. I want to pull your hood just so I could just like thug it out.

01:06:16
Speaker 1: You can tell me this you got. I had to roll it be like bro, they rolled it out. They waiting her coming, they start thinking, I'm capping. I gotta pull through the hood. Had to roll the carpet back rolling bits back out. Man, I gotta pull up it. I just want to. I just want to. I just want to pull up get the energy like I'm kissed. Man, No bullshit, my boat dagger section of yonkers love that he out.

01:06:40
Speaker 2: You've been saying this ship my man, panky nigga pinky, I'm bringing them man, I know I don't take a lie to you. I still got loving your pushing up crack you like motherfucking gypsyan minjument right now with why you gonna eat any yams, any turkey time you can go.

01:06:58
Speaker 1: You don't gotta pay for nothing.

01:06:59
Speaker 3: Right now, everybody we bring on here with a soul food, join this.

01:07:03
Speaker 1: Jada kiss cousins. Every time we talk about.

01:07:07
Speaker 3: One of the niggas families and what my cousins, what are you talking about?

01:07:10
Speaker 1: I'm like, yo, Jada, everybody cast a source. You said you one of the biggest families in young and Cada. Yeah, I got one of them. I got one of them. Crazy, I got one of them. Last names that turned into nine last names. Oh no, there is d'st the witches. I got no mahood. You have to fight all nine of them.

01:07:30
Speaker 3: Like if you beat the nigga, your age, the bigger brother come out, then you gotta fight and.

01:07:34
Speaker 1: Keep coming out. Now, I got family, like I call them.

01:07:39
Speaker 3: Stuff like four niggas one time they can't I'll even say it. Then clay Cayton, Clayton Crawford came out.

01:07:46
Speaker 1: Nigga.

01:07:49
Speaker 3: What's the name that you don't throw the flag at means.

01:07:54
Speaker 1: Morolic is not yo, yo yo right for I beat off for them. Then they said Clayton. They send Clayton.

01:08:04
Speaker 3: He was brolick before we even knew what a muscle was.

01:08:07
Speaker 1: Right.

01:08:08
Speaker 3: They needga wash this ship out of me like.

01:08:12
Speaker 1: They just Yo.

01:08:14
Speaker 3: We had the moodies. We had a bunch of family. Brother James Yo, he was we washed me cocky, I mean brolic.

01:08:25
Speaker 1: He was rolick. I'm just a fat big boy with heads. He come up in there.

01:08:30
Speaker 3: I knew I was out in my league by the fifth brother. Fuck outy.

01:08:35
Speaker 1: But a lot of niggas don't come from that. Everybody, Yo, cut you out way.

01:08:38
Speaker 2: A lot of niggas don't come from that where it's like growing up having a fight. Nigga, you gotta fight three brothers, four cousins like I used to have to do that, like I used to my big brother.

01:08:48
Speaker 1: I swear I wish he was in here right now.

01:08:50
Speaker 2: I got into a real physical first time, the only time I ever fought my brother in life, my big brother with your brother, my big brother. Because this nigga made me fight four people one day like this nigga made me every some little niggashoop it.

01:09:03
Speaker 1: He came and got me out the house. I ain't know what's going on.

01:09:06
Speaker 2: He beat the ass I told fought three of the ass straight, whooped all three of them.

01:09:11
Speaker 3: And I think it was yeah three, it was three niggas. I fight, fight the two niggas whoop him.

01:09:15
Speaker 2: By the third nigga, this is the older brother, Like I fight the brother the middle brother.

01:09:19
Speaker 1: I gotta fight the old the three fat sisters in and ship. By the third time, I'm like, I don't want to fight no more. Bro tied.

01:09:29
Speaker 2: I don't want to fight no more bro for real, for like, and I still end up fighting nigga, but he like keep fighting them and I'm like, Bro, I'm taed, and like, I don't know. I just feel like he ain't want to hear that ship like he ain't want to just like me telling him, no, I'm not feeling hell No. That nigga grabbed me, choked me up, all type of ship like, don't ever tell me you ain't finished fight in front of these niggas outside.

01:09:49
Speaker 1: I should have told me you was tied in nig house or whatever the case. My sister.

01:09:52
Speaker 2: Niggas don't come from that type of background though Rapper he had contested his story.

01:09:56
Speaker 1: Bro beat the whooped they ass though for sure.

01:10:00
Speaker 3: He did some ship to my sister, she never did, but she came to get me. He was way, I mean way bigger than me. Say I'm twelve. He had to be seventeen or somewhere. Man, This god body slammed me, tripped me, supplex me. This dude raped me, tricking me, stripping me, and ship anything I tried. To this day, I'm traumatized by my sister recipees Lisa. But I remember on the floor about the eighth time I got body slammer.

01:10:31
Speaker 1: I looked at I said, Mama, we used to call him. I said, I can't, Mama.

01:10:35
Speaker 3: Still what an I went after nigga bodies Nigga said, I can't, tripping me, superplexing me, clothes lining me, two piece of me like I got my ask what I had to actually finally from the floor, I never forget. It still traumatizes me. I look at my sister, I said, Mama, I can't.

01:11:05
Speaker 1: Nah. She was like her right, Joey this and that.

01:11:07
Speaker 3: But the guy, for some some reason, you know, the two or three times I got my ass shipping my hood nobody outside right. So it's like, you know what, in my hood, if nigga's outside, they'll beat you up ten thousand deep to one dude, like they't not letting Fat Joe get beat up. And to this day, joke hold it up since a kid the one two three times I got my ass it was outside beat the ship out of me, like my ship and I'm white, So my ship is like you know how many guys I beat up and they got lucky and hit me.

01:11:43
Speaker 1: My ship is a hot jammy that's crazy ship.

01:11:47
Speaker 2: I feel that bru swear to guy like I didn't really like man, my mom's gonna tell you, like every time any anytime I get hit, you get it bruised. Well enough way red King really whoop niggas and left the fight.

01:12:00
Speaker 3: This ship left with purple Literally what does overtip? Over in elementary elementary school over to Man Overton, Overton, Overton. That was a project that's student play man for sure. But me and my partners who I was in business with JB. Man, we partnered in like just it was a school that we that was like, what is what's the word I'm looking for? Like it's not demo got shut down?

01:12:28
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying it gout like closed down when like the.

01:12:31
Speaker 2: What the funk was it was they like boycotting teachers and ship like that. Yeah, yeah, a bunch of schools like the teachers like boycott it.

01:12:38
Speaker 1: It was a thing. So that was one of the schools and.

01:12:41
Speaker 2: We bought it and and just you know what I'm saying, made it like performing arts whereas like kids could go work out.

01:12:49
Speaker 1: Who like you know what I'm saying. All that just just funny.

01:12:54
Speaker 2: Put something in the city, like in the Inner City and on the South side of Chicago where kids could have a safe place to like work out. Still like smoke, they're still in that working out right now. They redoing the Yeah, mom's just yah. They redoing that, but still going on, like the room, it's still going.

01:13:10
Speaker 3: Like I'm saying, yourself, tell you something, rich player, what was that?

01:13:16
Speaker 1: You gotta go fuck himself?

01:13:17
Speaker 3: Because what he says, he tells me all the time, he tells me all the time, I'm a narcissist. He said, Yo, you're a narcissist. Narcissists don't want to help the community. They don't want to give back to the community. And think about people. What you think about the people losing the snaps and we don't get too political here, I mean, but like they losing his food stamps.

01:13:41
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yah yeah steps here. You know what do you think about that?

01:13:45
Speaker 3: Because me personally, I ain't got enough money to feed for It's something you.

01:13:49
Speaker 2: Could connect with the Swerving through Stress initiatives. Yeah, No, definitely for sure, for sure, Like all that go hand in hand. Like even with what we did with Overton, you know what I'm saying, Like Swervel through Stress, we didn't put kids through therapy, We didn't have food programs, like we did a peace walk over to at the school, like like all through the south Side, like a real peace walk to stop the violence, and like one of the toughest areas, you knowe what I'm saying, And like that's how Swerving through Stress really came about, just trying to provide something for inner city kids where it's like free therapy, uh, suicide hotlines, food drives.

01:14:25
Speaker 1: Food giveaways. You fee what I'm saying.

01:14:27
Speaker 2: There's me really trying to be like a staple in the community and get back because I know how hard this shit is for real in the inner city and and poverty and to say, like what you're saying about like them shutting down the food steps were not even digging too deep in that shit. It's like, bro, a nigga, hont and me and mixed say this all the time. When a nigga hungry, when a nigga you don't know, no no tough, no no, I will do anything to you.

01:14:51
Speaker 1: When a nigga's stomach ground for real, for real.

01:14:53
Speaker 2: So it's like when a nigga hungry, you gotta eat, nigga might eat you.

01:14:57
Speaker 1: It's connected. It's connected to trin right.

01:15:00
Speaker 3: So first of all, if the only it's connected to crime, If the only way you're gonna eat is through some snaps or some food stamps, and now you ain't got shipped, you got kids, what.

01:15:10
Speaker 1: Do you think is gonna happen? Yeah, niggas gonna.

01:15:14
Speaker 3: Start robbing people, start robbing businesses doing whatever they gotta do, not because they just trying to.

01:15:21
Speaker 1: Get rich they're hungry. It is because they hungry. I'm gonna give you one.

01:15:25
Speaker 2: Even people you ain't even thinking about, like the adults niggas who brain fully working and fully functioning.

01:15:31
Speaker 1: What about the kids, the twelve.

01:15:33
Speaker 2: Year old kid who moms can't eat you know what I'm saying, Marms can't provide.

01:15:36
Speaker 1: Pops might be dead, Pops might be in jail.

01:15:39
Speaker 2: Is Marms can't even provide, And he trying to figure out how to go get some money and how to eat and get nigga's stomach ground and he's starving. He the one that's gonna go out and rob and shoot you, his brain not even fully developed.

01:15:50
Speaker 1: The only way, middle kid, middle kid gonna go out there and do.

01:15:54
Speaker 3: Some crazy, the only way to save the future, the only way it's ever been. You gotta work on the youth, because the youth, just like you said, you ain't care. I ain't care. I went out every day for violence. Every day in my life. I went out for violence, right. And my mother was a nice person, hardworking. Your father was a hardigger nigga. My best friend, I don't want to say his name is mother and father ran the church and his shit was going off more than anybody.

01:16:25
Speaker 1: Right. So I don't know if you're just trying to fit in.

01:16:28
Speaker 3: Or whatever the case may be, but definitely I'm not saying to the environment twenty twenty five that I'm older that I would have did when I was fifteen sixteen, seventeen eighteen, nineteen years old. So the only way is to work with the youth before they get themselves in jail for life.

01:16:48
Speaker 1: Definitely, for sure. It's like you gotta that's the thing.

01:16:51
Speaker 2: Like when I was coming up, I ain't had nobody like me that I wanted to be like and could see and tell me some real shit that I made it.

01:16:58
Speaker 1: I come from this.

01:16:59
Speaker 2: I was doing this like even I've seen a clip where you're saying, like a nigga come from a two parent household, and they'll be like you not in the streets because you got a mother and a father ship like that. You feel what I'm saying, Like, I come from a two parent household. I was outside thugging for real, tell me worst way, like, no bullshit. Like I was outside thugging in the worst way, and I've seen this ship and like, yeah, it's not for real, no bullshit, no bullshit. It's like, how you saying this shit? Like, Bro, I was one of them niggas. Bro, I put myself in the line of fire over and over again. Bro, I got shot, couldn't walk right back outside on the block. I got shot on with a cast, can't walk, can't one cain't nothing shot but do nothing but ten toes with that fat on me.

01:17:44
Speaker 3: You got shot and shigned myself out the hospital same night I was in that Beamer five twenty five blast in that system miser.

01:17:53
Speaker 1: Right and or wrong with love. Some fo niggas just trying to say that show is dead.

01:18:01
Speaker 3: I'm in that female like right and around like we was ignorant, man, everybody was everything. Everybody was ignorant. But we gotta pray for the future and do as much as we can. I love the way you holding yourself up positive because a lot of people, you know, they fall to that peer pressure. Uh, they gotta be hood, they gotta be with the boys. Like I don't get.

01:18:27
Speaker 1: Money and get it out of that show.

01:18:28
Speaker 3: I really personally don't understand, right, rich rich Rich dudes. Right, let's just say the industry and filthy witch and you're still in the game. You're a billionaire in the gang throwing it up this. I'm trying to figure it out, Like what is it is that the street crad?

01:18:50
Speaker 1: Is that the this the that?

01:18:51
Speaker 3: Like I'll be like, yo, you have no business me just that, Joe. I'm looking I know what. Chicago's much different because you're born there. You are you are, trust me. I know Chicago not as good as you, but I know Chicago is like pick a side.

01:19:08
Speaker 2: Is what you ain't played the middle. That's the most dangerous thing to play. Is she got what all it is pought to play? You can't even the middle. You can't play the middle.

01:19:18
Speaker 3: But what I'm saying to you, I mean everybody, I mean everybody in Chicago got to make a choice. Even if you're the nicest down, you gotta make a choice because that's the way that ship is.

01:19:29
Speaker 1: My thing is why are you a millionaire? A billionaire? Rappers?

01:19:36
Speaker 3: I don't want to call them out because I love all of them, but I still don't understand why they throwing it up and saying they this.

01:19:43
Speaker 1: I don't get it.

01:19:44
Speaker 2: I think it's smart like you. I see Sosas not out of there. I see you got out of there, even Derek.

01:19:51
Speaker 1: Got out of it. You gotta get out of you gotta get out of there. It's not even about if you bough this Puerto Rico make Chicago look like a walking part. Shoot you, I know that one hundred and fifty times. Then take your watch.

01:20:22
Speaker 3: I'm telling you now, I know that Puerto Rico brain. I said, my brother James, do me a favorite James Coke, look up Puerto Rico violence.

01:20:32
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you this ship let him.

01:20:34
Speaker 2: I was on the phone with a nigga and I was working with this artist that I that I did a song with in Puerto Rican I never seen nothing like this in my life. We're gonna FaceTime, bro. It was like a block and a half, like two blocks the niggas hit. They probably had like six hundred guns. Never seen nothing like that in my life. That mean explains shiners and sticks.

01:20:55
Speaker 3: They killing you first, they showing me, They showing me the floor, Like the whole two blow is probably full of guns, bro.

01:21:02
Speaker 1: Like literally, I swear I'm not even exaggerated.

01:21:04
Speaker 3: Bro.

01:21:04
Speaker 2: I probably niggas probably had like five six hundred guns.

01:21:08
Speaker 1: Bro, I'm dead serious. Like, I don't know.

01:21:10
Speaker 3: Why two blocks they showing me the ship the video face time, I'm on FaceTime.

01:21:15
Speaker 1: We on FaceTime like two minutes straight, just showing me guns. Yo.

01:21:19
Speaker 3: The reggae tone dudes, every last one of them worship and love Puerto Rico, but.

01:21:26
Speaker 1: They living in Miami or Orlando.

01:21:30
Speaker 3: Because that ship over there, I'm telling you in Puerto Rico, you think Fat Jo tough. You see Fat Joe walk around New York and the Rose Royce and like, I'm a quiet boy in Puerto Rico.

01:21:40
Speaker 1: I go over there.

01:21:41
Speaker 3: I'm not the cheapest watch. I wasn't having a fucking not even that Saiko watch Sigar like this, it's it going guys. Nigga told me the other day to Thief fIF where you at. Fever was in Puerto Rico with one of the wildest little nigg is in the little He put him on the phone in the little nigga say, Yo, we know you don't come to the hood in Puerto Rico. Joe, you we love you, we worship come. You are so safe here, Joe, I swear to God, these guys will die they worship you. I was like, Okay, Fief, you were one of the toughest niggas in Puerto Rico.

01:22:18
Speaker 1: Run the whole ship a free chimney.

01:22:22
Speaker 3: He got on the FaceTime with me, except that, Joe, you don't understand how.

01:22:26
Speaker 1: Much we love you here, we worship you.

01:22:30
Speaker 3: We know you don't come to the projects in the hood out here, and guess what.

01:22:35
Speaker 1: Be seeing me there no I love you too, buy your ball equa, but I'm not. You gotta get out of there for sure.

01:22:44
Speaker 2: You got and how you were saying, like even when it come of like bro so so that nigga was smart.

01:22:50
Speaker 1: Bro like that Nigga, I ain't gonna say was he is smart?

01:22:53
Speaker 2: Bro shout me in the wilds And he got a couple more in man so check in man. So it's the riches a motherfucker man. Nigga got an Instagram account for his cards. O cat like that nigga to go to this ship, he made the decision and get the fuck O.

01:23:11
Speaker 1: You gotta get away from this ship. You gotta just get it. Everybody was a great weather for sure. He did it first though.

01:23:18
Speaker 6: Hold you gotta be brave because they gonna be this and that all Early Fat Joe moved to Miami twenty something years ago.

01:23:30
Speaker 1: One night, I'm in Madison Square.

01:23:33
Speaker 3: God, I'm headline and I'm in my green Broo and I sit up on the fucking sink and I look and I'm like, holy ship, these are all killers.

01:23:44
Speaker 1: Like everybody did with me? Was a fuck? Does she gonna say on the sink? And it broke? No, that's three fat Joseph. Go, but let me explain something you. I looked at that.

01:23:55
Speaker 3: And that was one of the main reasons why I got out of New York.

01:23:58
Speaker 1: I was actually too powerful.

01:24:02
Speaker 3: Hey, you know everybody trying to prove to the big man that this if I had a sneezed at a dude, it got real ugly in there. I realized, and I said, oh, I gotta get out of here and start in Miami and wear silk shirts. And they think I'm a nice guy. I never had a fight. I never had a one on one in Miami. I'm a nice law biting citizen. I'm in Chiprianni over there, over here this. So I had to get up out of here. So I know the difference. You gotta go, You gotta get away. Because also a dude that forced you to hurt him. I think that should be a law. Hold on, hold on, yo chi, it's a law. There should be a law where, hey, if you killed the guy, you killed him, you gotta do time ten fifteen years. But if you knew this guy was killing the whole neighborhood, he was trying to extort me, shooting at my mother, this, this, this, and I killed him I had no choice him me fifteen ten fifteen years, ten years, not life, give me five, get out of it. But the point is this guy. You know how many guys might have went in front of that judge and said, yo, honor. He forced me like it was like this guy won't stop. He's forcing me. Like for sure, bro, I see some some dudes on some dudes, they forced them. There's nowhere around it. There's nowhere around it. He forced you everywhere you go. He got a problem he wanted, he did.

01:25:29
Speaker 1: He gets that. Yo, we can't live.

01:25:30
Speaker 3: Somebody got to go. Somebody got now. I think that should be almost like a body of.

01:25:36
Speaker 1: Passion or something, the body of work.

01:25:42
Speaker 5: Those he's just body of passion at got he just get.

01:25:46
Speaker 1: You can get that, not the way you get what you get for that they under got got you get under twenty five? Yo. Could we listen to some tracks? Listen. I was even in and bought some gang ship like COmON real Nigga.

01:26:02
Speaker 3: I'm ben't comfort Chicago and not talking about the real ship.

01:26:05
Speaker 1: You can't well moving on, can't You can't.

01:26:08
Speaker 2: You can't for real for real, Like before we even play some shit, I'm gonna say like bro, like to the capacity of the ship that we like the ship we've been through and the ship we experienced. Like just being here alone is a blessing, you knowe what I'm saying. Just being able to be in this type of room and have these kind of coloriness, be alive is a blessing.

01:26:26
Speaker 1: Is great.

01:26:27
Speaker 2: Niggas don't realize, Like, I don't even know how many times I got shot at, you know what I'm saying, Like ship like that. Niggas can't say that, bro, Like I didn't got shot at so many fucking times and I'm still here.

01:26:37
Speaker 1: You feel me like that ship is a blessing. Bro. I'm telling you know.

01:26:40
Speaker 3: I wrote a song two days ago, man, and I said I got shot out a hundred times back in the day.

01:26:46
Speaker 1: Yeah, a bullet Look you hear my manager.

01:26:48
Speaker 2: A bullet went through my hat before like I got my time back in the day, Like you know that, that's what bullet went through my hair.

01:26:58
Speaker 3: I had a fucking Christmas had on the ship that you're stocking, and the bullet went through the Christmas stocking.

01:27:05
Speaker 1: Nigga, you're talking to the wrong guy.

01:27:10
Speaker 3: We beat the niggall, Listen. I've never been murdy. Listen, that's a good one. Let me tell you, yo, that's the top five that or lot. We beat this guy up, big motherfucker. Right, big guy, it's twenty of us.

01:27:29
Speaker 1: He like him.

01:27:29
Speaker 3: We beat him up for no reason. In the club, it was called an octagon. Not on thirty four of that eaton, it's on thirty third. You know how long that block is? So we come out. This guy was big, right, but we beat him up. When I come outside, he's outside. Guy's outside, he got like, do your four dudes with him now right? He immediately pull that hammer out. You. I dare you now when you leave here, it's two minutes away to drive you okay, drive through thirty third Street with the octagon?

01:28:02
Speaker 1: What was that eleventh? Five? Eleventh? Ave in tenth and I dare you to see how long that block is. That nigga was letting that ship ship, That ship went through this the.

01:28:19
Speaker 3: Fucking saying that, yeah, what is that stocking Chris who went through the ship?

01:28:25
Speaker 1: This nigga, that block is so long.

01:28:27
Speaker 3: You can't turn, you can't run, you can't you can just got a straight that's his No man, I got some shadow clay Man, real quick man, let's go into it's the first one.

01:28:41
Speaker 1: Play Yeah, play that is play fallings over this man, I gotta hit his Chris, You definitely gotta hit his ship. Kid, faky crop of that ship. Yeah, it's that. It's that right here, this ship. Who put shots off in the air?

01:28:58
Speaker 2: Mann Cannon, Don Cannon, Kennon Don Kennedy, Don Kenny man big since Juice World died, Nigga, I ain't got nothing left, huh.

01:29:12
Speaker 1: Sis possimoke that nigga we ain't got nothing left.

01:29:16
Speaker 2: Level sis kings find that niggas we ain't got nothing left. Hard toring cod sweats, tears, fall case, suppressive block on my foot.

01:29:24
Speaker 1: Protection toldies just a couple left falling.

01:29:26
Speaker 2: Just feeto Kobe Captain rocks down on my block. So the war never stopped. I was still a team, but already seen a lot. Told me I'd be stuck in my hood.

01:29:35
Speaker 1: Til I watched. I knew I reached my dreams.

01:29:36
Speaker 2: Cops told me I would not spend my first rapping rail told me I should drop Dad broke. No way I'm making bill if I got caught, But I ain't give a fuck.

01:29:44
Speaker 1: I still left my.

01:29:44
Speaker 2: Window down the shot I was going through a lot when y'all just spending for my pilot in from my hood.

01:29:49
Speaker 1: But I kept hurting.

01:29:50
Speaker 2: My mama had to gold missions, but I really wanted Comma sniffing me and ship after we did it. If I'm honest, blood man his fishes, I was swimming with Rohana's murder after murder that is for like a signer. I was played o'sam until we call him like Obama. Ain't no emotion now and holding over the trauma.

01:30:06
Speaker 1: Fuck made it out the trenches.

01:30:07
Speaker 2: Now live in Kelli tuck bulletproof of trucks, so I won't even got a duck lost. My brothers felt like I was running out of luck. Paid for over twenty funeralofs, then they run out of the bucks.

01:30:16
Speaker 1: Got my life plus all millions up. That's a plus. Gripping tight, buller up and bust. That's a must on sight.

01:30:22
Speaker 2: If you got the fux, that was us past walking off my waist to keep us safe because I trusted. Hey, sis, baby d d niggas, I ain't got none left, six big we niggas. I ain't got nothing left, sis, look dreg guy nigga, let this hold.

01:30:41
Speaker 1: Let the second word cold switch.

01:30:43
Speaker 3: Let the second verse real quick burn the sad verse quick man, let the second verse. Please man, let this ship play through the Lord, Let this ship play through real quick this.

01:30:53
Speaker 1: Big win, Dad, niggas, I ain't got nothing left brag that ship sis, look.

01:30:58
Speaker 2: Greg guy, niggas, I ain't got nothing left hard torring, cold sweats. Here's fall case oppressed clock on me foot protection, homies, just a couple left falling stone. I was really in this shit, staying cliff in the state.

01:31:08
Speaker 1: I can't be a hypocrite. I was the first nigga in the whip.

01:31:11
Speaker 2: Swear to God, we ain't going to sleep to listen homicide.

01:31:13
Speaker 1: We'll do this shit every day like is Ramadan. Put it on my mama. I ain't never played out of battles. Slip across the line.

01:31:19
Speaker 2: We'll make these mistic Columbines, little her Ben signing on the dot of the line. You would never catch me. Let's you chasing dollar side. I just spent one hundred thousand a lot of times, I LOUI for my kids, but of pride of mine told them then I come from dark days.

01:31:33
Speaker 1: I ain't lying million dollars worth of jay because you gotta.

01:31:36
Speaker 2: Shine bigga standing on the trigger because I miss my nigga keep an extra thirty shots because I should have.

01:31:41
Speaker 1: Been with him checking in my seat. I understand incidentals. He can let them just in case, because I could have did them. Going on the head.

01:31:49
Speaker 2: You better have no fucking feel if it goes left, you better not try. No fucking tell cod skip but happening that you better not look in the rip we go, tell us they complain about the trash me strong.

01:31:59
Speaker 1: So when this little her legit we own finally got rich. But it took mad.

01:32:03
Speaker 2: Long while from everybody sings sad songs real six see mood. Niggas, I ain't got nothing left, Sis man Max that niggas, I ain't got nothing left since Big Squad d Niggas, I ain't got nothing left. Hard torn coach case, oppressive clock on me, foot protection ponies, just a couple left falling soldiers. Sis cheeko, Dad, niggas, I ain't got nothing left. Hell't maake it soda that nigga, I ain't got nothing left, crazy Sis.

01:32:39
Speaker 1: White folks, Dad, niggas I ain't.

01:32:40
Speaker 3: Got don't care something that's premeditated. This man came up in here. He came off some bull shit. You ain't no good for me. You spend one hundred thousand every week. I'm trying to find the fucking shoppers anonymous. This guy spend one hundred thousand, un anymous but proud of. And let me tell you some that's the best record I heard from you. And and I've been listening to your ship, that ship right there, and you got some shit Cannon, man, this guy cannon.

01:33:14
Speaker 1: Big Bro. That was strategic for sure, Big Bro. Call me like, yeah, but the ship you spare its legend, it's legends legend.

01:33:20
Speaker 3: You did your thing, man. And let me tell you something about this show and this couch right here. When we play ship, that ship go on anothering. You know, motherfuckers that ship right.

01:33:32
Speaker 1: Know that I ain't even trying to. I don't want to be about I don't want to be a bug. Play one Mortal, well, yeah, we need that. Play the other shaster. Go to the moolay one more. You gotta hear this.

01:33:42
Speaker 2: One chance, one chance, one chance, man, play one chance.

01:33:46
Speaker 3: The nigga making me feel poor out here, spend one hundred thousand a bunch of times.

01:33:51
Speaker 1: I'm like, god damn, one chance, Yes, the master other soldier here. But that ship was hard man.

01:33:58
Speaker 2: I beat all this ship, capst waking about your sleep back to back because we have a night miss a about.

01:34:06
Speaker 1: Four them today.

01:34:07
Speaker 2: Couldn't even go to sleep for a hour the street.

01:34:11
Speaker 1: That's no bout. I ain't lying to nobody. I ain't running from this ship.

01:34:15
Speaker 2: I ain't tucking my tail, I ain't ducking from no ox, only ducking the cell I saw the.

01:34:19
Speaker 1: God I was twelve, started.

01:34:20
Speaker 2: Throwing up else by the time I'm fourteen when my brothers got killed, Like.

01:34:24
Speaker 1: What else for me to do but get the fuck in the field.

01:34:27
Speaker 2: Couldn't make my mama cry, started cutching his still he got a dub or it was just a team fucking with Ghil already did fifteen.

01:34:33
Speaker 1: He like, fuck is up?

01:34:34
Speaker 2: Hell? What you know about old guns jamming up on the drill? What you know about using police because you got blood of your nails. What you know about getting shot at thirty times in lift? What you know about coming back as you got something to sell?

01:34:45
Speaker 1: What you know about taking risks? Got to tighten them? Hell?

01:34:48
Speaker 2: What you know about praying to God still might go to hell? What you know about anything? What you know about dope glass, got a certain twenty things. Once you know about seeing real visit shit.

01:34:57
Speaker 1: But it's a dream. Just to get rich, I had to shine a pin every day on hits. We made movies.

01:35:02
Speaker 2: Many seen me really had knowledge. Could have been plenty of things, could have been a lawyer or his doctor, or a scholars ended up, and Robert Jean's popping up our collars ended up on seting night for ass Chason dollars ended up.

01:35:14
Speaker 1: It's a boy, my mother and my father.

01:35:16
Speaker 2: Then I chose right after that, started making commerce for real twenty twenty five nigga worth thirty mil.

01:35:23
Speaker 1: I know how it happened.

01:35:24
Speaker 2: Though I had love for my brothers, couldn't hop in traffic though all summer long we was letting automatics go. Had to force my real dogs to take other avenues. It ain't about this week. Get money out of music. Fuck gain shit, gotta brain, gotta use it, and you can't lose.

01:35:40
Speaker 1: You get one chance in it. You got one chance. And this shit he only one chance. Can't be with the double dance, and.

01:35:49
Speaker 3: Shit, you got one life, one niche, you get one shot, don't miss it.

01:35:56
Speaker 1: I don't give a fuck, what they said to you.

01:35:58
Speaker 2: I ain't take a chance in it, and ship had to make away because I'll be damn the statistic franchise player from the stands in.

01:36:05
Speaker 1: The bench, chin hard.

01:36:06
Speaker 2: That's me, fucked feet and inches all the way, chase of riches.

01:36:09
Speaker 1: Give a fuck about bitch.

01:36:11
Speaker 2: Thigga's out here tripping free lance and his ship put the fan first because ain't no friends in his ship.

01:36:16
Speaker 1: No trying, man, my heart, I'm still paying for this ship. I didn't really lost my real man's to this ship.

01:36:22
Speaker 2: I already lost my little brother to this ship. Every time I'm talking to my grams to get wicked PTSD, I gotta drink just the kicking playing out on crash because the lamb work a ticket, so much bloodshed, probably nothing that could fix it.

01:36:35
Speaker 1: Fuck it then I'm rying till I'm dying. Ain't no mixing.

01:36:38
Speaker 2: If we go to walk up the score, we keep blissing President I in it centy four, like I'm nixing you, puddy. You get one chance in it. You got one chance in this ship. Only one chance can't be with the devil dancing and ship. You got one life, one niche. You get one shot don't miss it. I don't give a fuck what they.

01:37:01
Speaker 3: Saying to you.

01:37:02
Speaker 1: Ain't gone taking chance.

01:37:03
Speaker 2: And and sh appreciate it, Steve Man, appreciate this.

01:37:14
Speaker 1: Love light. Who look it's saying that. Ain't this it's cracking kiss makes some noise for g Herbal y'all little Herbs, her bulls, the hottest ship out right now.

01:37:34
Speaker 2: Thank y'all, bro. I love y'all, man. I appreciate y'all. I grew my whole light and watching niggas honest ship out right now straight, ain't herb and all that? No?

01:37:43
Speaker 1: I why Clift Juice were listen to this?

01:37:48
Speaker 3: Derely you inspiring me right now. Shout out the mall deep the album is fired. Shout out the big air. Just drop an album.

01:37:57
Speaker 1: A collapse of.

01:37:58
Speaker 2: My brother Royster five going through some medical issues, but.

01:38:02
Speaker 1: He's gonna be bad. He loves Royce for real.

01:38:06
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, he exacting to produce the bit, you know, but he's going through some ship your Roice. I love you, man, thank you for everything you ever did for me. Man, I just want you to know that you're a beautiful guy.

01:38:16
Speaker 1: Man. You always took care of me. I love you. I'm gonna pray for you.

01:38:19
Speaker 3: I'm gonna put you in my prayer package and the album No Herd boy, I need that.

01:38:24
Speaker 1: Ship a sad right now, crazy out there. Thank you. Shout out to my boy E P bringing her through. You know what I mean. Don't get his flyers enough. E P. I love you back. What's up, lady, Take some

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