NFL Cover Zero: QB changes heading into NFL Week 6!

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Speaker 1: NFL Covers zero with Matt Jones and Drew Franklin as a production of the NFL and iHeart Podcast. It is Week six of the NFL Cover zero podcast. Matt Jones and Drew Franklin here getting you ready for week six of Action and the News midweek. Drew, we had a good weekend last weekend, getting it done and ready to go for a new week. For those of you watch it at home, I want you to look right now at your little video there, because it's not gonna look this bad forever, I promise you and I both got our social media accounts going. Like the videos got posted. NFL Network was like, let's put two videos of them up this week.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we're still figuring out the lighting here were It did look like we're just sobbing over the darnld Mayfield showdown discussion. I don't know why we would cry during its talk about Seahawks Bucks, but it looks like we're just bawling our eyes out in the video.

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Speaker 1: This this is a true This is a true story. I'm gonna tell you. I waited to tell you this. I went to the doctor today and uh, there's a woman that works in the building who who's been a friend of mine. And she looked at me and she goes As I walked in, she was like, you look, you look really good. And I was like, oh, well, thank you, but she said it in that way that was kind of surprised, and I was like, and so I joked, you know, oh, so you're saying I don't look good normally, and she goes, well, I saw a video of you Withdrew and I just thought maybe you were sick. And that was when I knew, you know, we got to work on this video thing because I can't be looking like I'm sickly to a national audience.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And on the Sunday Show, it is late, so we're like a little tired, but we don't look anything like we have in the clips that have gone up. I love I don't live tagged in those, but I wish our parents was a little better.

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Speaker 1: When the NFL network pooks put you up, you don't want to look like Grandpa Simpson, just like forty six million followers, what it is. I mean, it's just the NFL network. So but it is cool when the NFL network puts you up, because that's now happened a couple times, and I've had people that I had one person I went to law school who thought I was still a lawyer. And now, imagine if you went to law school with me twenty years ago, you hadn't seen me in twenty years, and you were like, you're on the NFL network, like you didn't even know I did sports. That would be surprising, right.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, But it's bringing you together with old friends, it is. That's exactly right, New audience, Well, so we got a lot of stuff we.

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Speaker 1: Want to get to. One of the things we're going to do is we're going to give we are I guess you know about that. We're going to be a third of the way through the season after this week. So I wanted to look at the odds and the divisions and now that we've started sort of see who's going to win each of them. But first, let's let's go with what's happened in the last couple of days. The Jaguars beat the Chiefs on Monday Night Football with one of the sort of more ridiculous plays of all time. Trevor Lawrence falls down, gets up, scores. A couple things stand out about this. It feels like a big game for Trevor Lawrence to go and win that they had to go all the way down the field with what two and a half three minutes left gets the victory. Are you were you impressed? And are you now? I've been saying the Jaguars room, I picked for the AFC South all year. Are you on board now? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: And I take a set here. I picked the Jags to win that one. You in part convinced me before the season started. I wasn't real sure, but the Jags have looked pretty good even in their loss, and they still look pretty good. Liam Cohen I missed him here in Lexing, and he's looking like the real deal. I mean, I mean Coach of the Year candidate for sure at this point. Sure he's corny with that. Yeah, the way he's turned that team around, you got to give him credit.

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Speaker 1: You get to see all the emotions of Li and Cohen. You get the dude, and then you get he like tries to fight Robert Salah. He's yelling at people on the sidelines, but then he gives everyone a hug. Very emotional person, wears his you know, wears his heart on his sleeve. You gotta like that. I guess right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And it was week two or week three where you had him jawn with Trevor Lawrence. I think there might have been a moment with bron Thomas, whatever the case, and it was like are these guy's cool? Yeah, but it seems they really like him.

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Speaker 1: He you nailed it.

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Speaker 2: He's just highly emotional in either direction.

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Speaker 1: It's big catches by the receipt. I mean, Brian Thomas and Travis Hunter have gotten a lot of criticism over the course of the year, and on that final drive, big time catches by both of them. Travis Hunter made a catch double coverage and then Brian Thomas Lawrence through the pass of the season for the Jaguars to to Brian Thomas on third down, so long, long pass. So I think the good signs for Jacksonville. What about that last play that was nuts.

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Speaker 2: If you're a Jacksonville fan in the moment when you just see him kind of trip and go down, I mean, you gotta assume your debt nice. It just kind of stumbled his way to go into the really incredible blooper of an ending, especially to be prom time Bunday night to wrap up a game like that being the Chiefs that was wild?

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Speaker 1: What did you think about did you see the video of Chris Jones sort of like half trying he kind of quit twice on the play he like Lawrence failed twice and he kind of quit twice. You know, Chris Jones has never been considered a player that that that that it doesn't give his all. But that was a pretty bad look on that one. Now, he said after the game, you know, I I wasn't sure what was happening and which Okay, I don't know, but what did did you?

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Speaker 2: Was that a bad look for the Chiefs a little bit? And if he had done it a couple of weeks ago when we were questioning if the Chiefs still had it all, you would add that to the list with Kelsey running into Worthy and all the other Kelsey mistakes, fight with the sideline, But it did.

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Speaker 1: Trigger a little bit of that, like are the Chiefs still what they used to be?

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Speaker 2: If he's not even all the way locked in, that's well they're too late to defense.

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Speaker 1: They're two and three now. They play the lines this week, but then the schedule really gets easier for him, so they could easily be two and four after after this week. But then that then the schedule opens up a little bit. Are you worried about him at all? Like, I mean, on the one hand, they looked good for two weeks, but they did beat the Giants and the Ravens and the Ravens, so you know they haven't beaten anybody good. Are you at all concerned about your Kansas City Chiefs?

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Speaker 2: I guess I'll claim the Chiefs, uh, even if they're good, and it looks like they're still pretty good. I mean, the Broncos and the Chargers already have a lead on you Chargers having a win.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you get the opportunity.

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Speaker 2: But if I were the Chiefs, I'd wish i'd be in another division, like you know the Bills surround about the Jets and the Dolphins.

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Speaker 1: It's it's it's a tough spot for them.

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Speaker 2: I think that I don't think they'll win the division actually, but I think they'll get in the playoffs and make noise like they normally do.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think they still I've still not betting against them. Plus they still get her she rice back after the next How big a change when Worthy came back, that's gonna be a big deal. And and you know, it feels like Travis Kelsey is now the stage. He plays himself into shape. You know, he and uh he and Taylor Uh in their Redwood they they sort of be they've been busy. But now I think the focus will be on him. I mean, she's not doing the super Bowl because she's focused on him. How about that quote where she's like, when his season's going, I'm locked in on what you want? That level of attention from your mate.

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Speaker 2: Like, do we believe her she's she said a few times, I think it was on their podcast, like she's learning actual football schemes. It's not like yay, he caught it touchdown. She's like learning all about the sport of football, Like she could try to be a coordinator over there.

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Speaker 1: Do we believe she's that into it? I do. It feels like to me she's somebody that whatever she does, she gets really. You know, she talked about sour no bread a lot. Now do I think that, you know, in two years when he's retired, she's going to be breaking down the film of Saints Chargers. Probably not, but I do think she's you know, she's one of these people who's it just seems like very into everything. I'm used to dating women who have no interest in what I'm doing, like I just I mean, I have a radio show, and almost every woman I've dated since radio show has been out has not listened to it. There's only one that really did at all, and and and most of the time they actively were like, well I get plenty of you as it is, So I feel like that's I'm surprised, Travis. I'm suppressed Sailor Swift doesn't do that too. That could be good, but you want them to be supportive and know, like, hey, maybe come home one day like that was a great show this morning.

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Speaker 2: At the same time, there are probably times where you're glad they're not listening. You say a little.

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Speaker 1: More yeah when you drop like other other things.

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Speaker 2: The worst is my wife listens to the podcast at home at night in the house and yourself, I'm like, you cannot do that around me. Every time my voice pops up, like can we can you knock that out live at work before you get home.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's weird to hear yourself. I feel like I sound like much more of a redneck than in my mind I speak the King's English. In my mind, I sound like I'm doing Hamlet on but that's not how I think the people here listening, nurse sounding well, we'll see Jags and Chiefs said it was a good Monday night game though. That was very exciting. Really loved the main cast. I'm I'm pro Manning cast continue to be. I thought that the Maning cast was at its best Monday night. First quarter you got Eli and Peyton breaking it down, giving each other jokes that they stood up. They were showing how you how you look off receivers. Then they brought Glenn Powell and they were talking about his show, but still giving him a hard time. Then they had what was their name, not Chloe Finneman, what's her name from SNL? Yeah, is it Chloe Fineman, Haley, Haley Bieber, No, whatever name is Haley Hodie Gardener. There we go. Heidi embarrassing knew that was awesome because they had that pick six and she's a Chiefs fan and she just kept going, oh, no, no, no no. And then at the end she said he ran all the yards, which is such a great that's such a great, like not really a fan of sports thing to say, he ran all the yards. And then at the end they had Fred Warder who was in the final Drive sort of showing what the Chiefs defense was not doing well. I thought that was like perfection.

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Speaker 2: And it's kind of become like the star studded event to land a spot off the Manicab.

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Speaker 1: They have the runout and they had They've had Obama on there, like they've had people that you can't get on other things. They've had pretty much every big celebrity. I think it's because everybody who doesn't like the Manning.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, they're great by themselves, but that third spot when they bring on a guest has become huge.

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Speaker 1: And Eli's sneaky funny, like like I think Eli's legitimately fun.

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Speaker 2: I've always said, I wish Eli this post retirement Eli, that's hilarious. I feel like we didn't get much of that when he's playing. He seemed like the stale bread of the Manning.

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Speaker 1: When he was playing, he always just looked like he was smelling a fart, like all the time, like that was his facial expression. And it turns out, I mean they both were really good Saturday Night Live hosts, you know. I mean, the Manning's gotta give him a lot of credit.

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Speaker 2: They're a big breakthrough for me when I knew they were just good quarterbacks. Was this Sports Center commercial where they kick each other on the tour like little brothers.

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Speaker 1: I think that was Eli.

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Speaker 2: I think that was the moment where I thought these guys got a little personality.

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Speaker 1: Had to be tough by the way to be Eli most of his life, because Peyton's really good. Peyton's more charismatic. He did have a big forehead, so Eli had that going for him, but otherwise, But to see Eli's coming into his own I feel positive. And you know we were friends, you and I both with Jared Lorenzen the hef d Lefty. A lot of these listeners here will remember the heft Lefty. Eli. I'll always remember he played with Jared in New York and when Jared passed away, Eli flew down to the funeral. He got a plane and flew a lot of his Giants teammates to the funeral. And I remember when he walked in. I just thought that was a very cool thing for him to do. I meant a lot to their family. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Well, actually, while you're in South Africa, just a few weeks ago, we had Jared's son on the KSR and we talked about the funeral and the Giants showing up, how he likes the Giants.

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Speaker 1: For that, Eli, I think I want to say, gave him a jersey or something. He did something for him at the funeral.

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Speaker 2: Yet that said a lot about Eli and Jared, the fact that someone would want to make that trip for Jared, so that Eli, with everything that had going on in that moment, would make that trip.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that was very very nice, all right. The other big story I think of the week the Bengals trade for Joe Flacco. He has been traded inured Inner Division. The Browns trade him to the Bengals, and basically the Browns get a fifth round pick instead of a sixth round pick, so they move up one round to do it. So Joe Flacco is basically worth worth going from the sixth round to the fifth round. But I actually think it's a really good move for the Bengals. I mean, Jake Browning, you just couldn't put him out there anymore. At this point. The only thing that anyone was positive about with Jake Browning was his wife's one piece suits that she went big on the fashion with Jake Browning's life seems like a fun person, but I think Flacco, you know, Flacco will just be at least mediocre until you can get to Burrow. That's good, right, media, there's value in mediocre, Oh there is.

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Speaker 2: I mean he's going to being mediocre for the Browns. They just didn't have enough pieces to do anything with it. But he'll get the ball to chasing Higgins, right. Yeah, Well we've been saying this since Browning has looked terrible. They had to do something, and it's not like there's just a ton of quarterbacks laying around. So when you see that they only really moved in next year's draft one round to get Flacco, I think it's a good move. I don't think it's gonna turn him around or be anything magical, but they didn't lose a whole lot to go get a quarterback who's just beat the Packers a few weeks ago.

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Speaker 1: If you're Jake Browning, though, don't you have to quit? Yeah? I mean, because you got bnched for a guy who's over forty and not on the team.

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Speaker 2: And you've and you've played a lot of games for the Bengals, you have already.

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Speaker 1: And literally he was still on the fly or the drive from Cleveland to Cincinnati, and they're like, and yes, he is the starter, not he's gonna come in here and compete. Even though he's not here yet and we've not even done a medical examination, we know he's gonna start. I think if you're Jake Browning, you just have to, out of embarrass move on.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Flacco was probably pulled over at that world's largest flea market in Ohio between Cleveland and Cincinnati.

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Speaker 1: Way, I've never thought that flea market was that big water ben last month, my debut appearance not as impressive as you would hope, right, And the outlet mall sits town is not that impressive either. That's the most disappointing. You get excited, it's like the best, they say, like the biggest outlet mall center in America, and then you go and most things are shut down, and it's that one's kind of disappointing too.

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Speaker 2: But that Flacco was definitely in there shopping for some law gnomes or something when he got the call that he's starting.

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Speaker 1: The road from Cleveland to Cincinnati is paved with disappointment.

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Speaker 2: Really, if you're trading Flacco mid season, is there a better travel for him to just drive from Cleveland to societies.

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Speaker 1: He stops at that gas station in Washington Courthouse.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not like the Giants send the jet to bring him to New York or some flashy there's also, by the way, this.

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Speaker 1: Is a very we're getting very local here. But for those of you driving from Cleveland to Cincinnati beyond where, there's not a lot of places to stop, not a lot of towns between there. So make sure to use the rest room. We know, Flacco ahead, you leave Aker and make sure you make sure you've emptied your bladder.

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Speaker 2: What do you think Jamar Chase thinks, you know, going to this season.

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Speaker 1: I mean he's happy though, he's happy because just.

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Speaker 2: Me overall, though he probably never thought there's a scenario on Earth where he's catching passes from Joe probably season.

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Speaker 1: Now, what I think is most interesting is the Mingles played the Packers on the road. It was just two weeks ago that Flacco beat the Packers on the road. With the Browns, he has a chance to do something that has never happened before, beat a team in the regular season on their home field twice. No way, no quarterback has ever done that. And he could do it like two out of four weeks and if they were to beat them, what if the Packers missed the super Bowl or excuse me, missed the playoffs because Joe Flacco beat them twice with two different teams. It's amazing.

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Speaker 2: I was thinking, let's say you get to the last game of the year. I think it's like Vikings Packers and they're playing again in the playoffs. If you're the Vikings, do you just trade for Flaco?

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Speaker 1: Then you do. At that point, you just ride the hot hand. We'll give you justin Jefferson for Joe Flacco. Straight up, every team just brings in Flacco to only beat the Packers.

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Speaker 2: It will be incredible, though. The country will be cheering for him to take down the Packers again, I mean the Bengals. The other thing is they can still salvage their season.

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Speaker 1: Right. They're two and three, so even if you lose this, you're two and four. But again, they have some winnable games coming up and Flacco could win them, and then maybe by mid to late November you get Burrow and you can sneak into the playoffs. I think that's your hope, and their mindset's change. Looking at their division, probably you're probably thinking, oh, and two versus Ravens when you get your schedule. But heck, now Flacos made a career of beating the Steelers, so I mean they're gonna play the Steelers lives. Flacco now will have played for three of the four teams in the same division. There, I bet there are You think there's any quarterback that's ever played for three of the four teams? Actually, I can think of one. I answered my own question. What's his head? Fitzpatrick? That's on Amazon use he played for the Jets, the Dolphins, and the Bills. Right, he doesn't count though he played for every team. And then Mario call me mister NFL trivia. Just off the top of my head. No, this is very impressive. All right. Now let's go to the Browns for a seconds. Dylan Gabriel's now the starter doesn't have to worry g d G the Browns coach today said he does. He cannot commit to Shadoor Sanders being second string. So they are talking about bringing Bailey Zappi off the practice squad to jump Shadoor Sanders and be second string. If they do that, then is that just it? Yes? Like then you just have to say, like it's not happening for in Cleveland.

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Speaker 2: Even that it's a conversation right now, it makes you wonder how far off he is from actually.

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Speaker 1: Playing in the NFL. Now. I hate it for mel Kuiper. I know he got excited Piper. That was bad for mel Kuiper. Oh, I'm sorry. I thought you meant it. Yeah, actually meant no.

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Speaker 2: He took his victory laugh when she had the big preseason game, and even some of the people credit other critics of Schudor kind of thought, well, maybe we're wrong. Shooter has got something. But if you're not even going to name him a second stringer, it's just he doesn't sound like he's closed.

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Speaker 1: I almost want to know what's happening in that locker room because there are so many like comments. You know, Rex Ryan did the whole Well, if I know what's happening, then everybody knows. But he didn't say what was happening. So something's going on. I mean, it's beyond like he's not good. Something that's happening with him, and the mom thing was not a good look. The mom thing isn't.

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Speaker 2: A deal breaker for him, but it's a big sign that he's probably too childish to be a starting corps Yes, like you don't see other quarterbacks in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: On the mind, how does he stay on the team of Bailey Zappi, who literally I thought was fifty five at this point in coaching a high school team in Texas. So that's Billy's Hilltoppers over there, That's that's Billy's boy. You can't stay on the team if you're right.

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Speaker 2: If there's if they're shopping around and considering Bailey Zappy and you're right there in the locker room, yeah.

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Speaker 1: Then what are you doing? I think it would have been funny if they If they, if then the Bengals traded Jake Browning to the Browns and he passed Shador as well?

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Speaker 2: Would anyone It's looking like the Browns are never gonna hand it to Shadoor or not anytime soon. Is there anyone out there that should consider taking a flyer on him? Definitely saw some Raiders fans like, let's just get him.

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Speaker 1: Into it this year, not this year. But I definitely think like, if they bring up Zapy, well know, I mean by the time you listen to this, you may know. If they bring up Zapp then Chador should go play. I mean, someone should give him a second chance next year. But it's bad if you're the Browns. I mean, when Shador was named third string, you were like, well, there's a world where Flacco gets hurt.

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Speaker 2: And you're like, and he was picked second and then he has to be behind and he asked me, right, So there was a world you could see him play. But if Flacco gets traded and not hurt.

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Speaker 1: And Gabriel, let's say, gets hurt, and then they're like, we're going with Bailey's appy, there's gotta be someone else out there. Yeah, I mean that's a that's a that's a bad sign. All right, We'll go to Arizona where coach Jonathan Gannon was fined one hundred thousand dollars for his what would you call what he did with the player who dropped the ball? Was it demarcado? What would you say he did? Bumped him?

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Speaker 2: The camera angle i've seen was from behind and people are saying he's struck him.

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Speaker 1: It kind of looks like he hit him in the chest a little bit. Yeah, but they you know, they do that foot people do that in football. They're like, give him the big h you know, people do do that, but you probably shouldn't do it if you're a coach. He apologized, said, I shouldn't have done it one hundred thousand dollars. Now. My thing, though, is if a player hit a coach, you'd be more than a hundred thousand dollars. First of all, he'd be suspended, right, I mean, let's say de Marcado hits Gannon like that, he suspended, right, yeah, maybe cut. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: It's also not wearing pads or anything too. So it's what's your point?

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Speaker 1: It feels like to me in society, we still think coaches get to do things that nobody else gets to do. If the Marcado hits Gannon, he is suspended. Gannon hits the Marcado, well, things happen. One hundred thousand dollars five. I just don't like that. I don't understand why we let coaches just get away with things because they're coaches.

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Speaker 2: When I saw this story, I thought, I just never understand how they come up with dollars amounts for stuff like this, whether it be a penalty or hitting a player whatever, late for practice. Is there just someone who's job They're like, all right, call Ron finds work undred thousand.

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Speaker 1: Do you think any finds work? He probably felt this one. I don't know what he makes. I'm sure he felt that a little bit. Yeah, what is what does Jonathan Gaden make? Look that up for us, Billy, and let's see if we think it's you know, you and I talked on another show once about the money is relative to how much you make. Like, if we find you one hundred thousand dollars, you're not gonna like that. No, find me one hundred thousand dollars, I'm not gonna like it. But if you find Lebron one hundred thousand dollars, does that matter to him? He will have never seen it. Sweden and Sweden, if you remember, they give you a speeding when you get a speeding ticket, it's a percentage of what you make, right, So like, rather than one hundred and fifty dollars for speeding, it's let's say, a point oh two percent of your south Do you like that? Do you think that's better?

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Speaker 2: I do because I've always thought if if it's like a uniform, even if it's the NFL, like Mahome's getting find the same as a guy that's barely on the rosters, not even the same. So I like that you feel it the same based on the percentage.

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Speaker 1: Of that way. Every person feels the punishment in their own way. So what is gaming, bake.

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Speaker 3: I don't have that yet. I apologize, five year deal, but don't have the dollar.

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Speaker 1: Nobody said how much now not in Yeah, we need to check with our NFL sources. But he will not miss a game. As far as Demarcado drop the ball, it's hit by his coach. The man needs to play well next week, right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And we mentioned it because it has happened twice now in the last two weeks. I just can't understand how you don't.

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Speaker 1: Hold on the ball. We talked about a long time last week and then they did it again. No, I'm starting to say, seventy two yard run. I'm starting to think these players don't listen to this podcast. Come on, get out of here. That's what I'm starting to think that maybe they're not. I mean it's the NFL. I thought everybody listened to it. Maybe not you. Well, I tell you, he and the guy for the Colts, they will hold on to that ball through the end zone until they get to the bench and sit down. Before they let go of it in the future. Let's go to uh OBJ. I have to tell you I didn't know Obj was associated with the NFL anymore. Odell beckhams you, I really didn't. As a matter of fact, I thought his association ended like two years ago. But apparently he's accepting his six game suspension for Peds. Now is he on a team right now? Yeah? What team is he? Is he currently a Dolphin? So let me ask you a question. Why he hasn't played this year? Right? No? I don't think he is a dolphin. Okay, why is this happening right now? I wonder this too because it's a test for last year. So what's he been doing these five weeks? Just hanging out? And then like all of a sudden, he's like okay, Like, why is this happening right now?

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Speaker 3: I think he's been hurt and he still wants to play this year, so he has to accept the suspension and serve that before.

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Speaker 1: So how do they decide? Again? This is like, from my own knowledge, he's been hurt. He's going to be suspended six games. Can he just say, all right, those six games I was hurt. Can he do that? Or do you have to declare that you're not hurt anymore and then you get suspended. Yeah, I'm probably that. IM not sure.

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Speaker 2: The new story that I Marinier says he's out to week twelve, so they gave him a.

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Speaker 1: Okay starts now, yeah, it starts now, all right, But I would certainly try that move. So what was the PED that he had? Do you do another boat party? Neutral light? I didn't see the PD. I'm not sure. Let me see. Yeah, well today again, I was at the doctor today and they gave me they like, I have these little spots and they froze one off my face. You ever heard of that? They like toak something, they freeze it off your face. So they did that, and they gave me some cream and they were like, you can put this on there, and you can put it on one or two others and it'll make them like not grow. And then they said to me, but you will fail drug test if you use this. I was like, oh, so I'm mooning if O'Dell did that. Oh you think it's you think like a liver spot or an age spot on his face? And then like I'm gonna say that's what happened to.

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Speaker 2: What I'm sitting here on a quick Google search, while our actual Google searcher is google searching over there. It says he he also missed a drug test because he flew to Vegas. I feel like if you skipped the drug test to go to Vegas, you're excuse.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, if you're going to miss a drug test, you have to be like I woldn't visited my grandma. You can't say I went on a boat on the outskirts of Miami. They did into Venezuela.

00:27:14
Speaker 2: Grandpa was singing in our church at home, and I could not miss it.

00:27:17
Speaker 1: I've always wanted to hear. See. You cannot say you're going to Vegas. That's not good for missing a drug test.

00:27:23
Speaker 3: He insisted that he did not knowingly take any banned substances see but when he asked the NFL what PD he tested positive for it, they told him your testosterone levels are too high.

00:27:35
Speaker 2: I also have a quote from him. You know how bleep goes where grown men. I'm in the program. I didn't tell them I was going to Vegas for one night. And now I'm in Vegas and you want me to come take a drug test and I'm not there.

00:27:47
Speaker 1: So so too much testosterone you know a lot of guys Vegas, so I guys our age start putting that stuff in him. He is getting old low T low T. But I don't think you ought to do that. I think it makes I think we've got you get whatever amount of tea you have. I feel like it's the right about when you start throwing tea in yourself. I'm always worried about that. There's always these men's clinics that want me to endorse them, and I'm always like, you know, first of all, I don't need to tell everybody what's happened you T. I just don't need to be telling everybody.

00:28:18
Speaker 2: Look the T I'm trying to spill the tea.

00:28:23
Speaker 1: I don't need to be telling everybody because my implication, if I'm getting work on my tea, then the tea needs work, right. So I've always turned down the men's clinic ads for those for that reason. Mind your p's and q's with my tea. None of your business.

00:28:40
Speaker 2: Also, I'm good I don't share with people the tea. I'm going my god given T. I don't need to go to a store and get more tea.

00:28:46
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, OBJ may have gotten more tea and now he will be out for six weeks as well. I know you wanted to talk about this, Marcus Merriota. Yeah, so tell you're Titans fan, tell this story. I think you know it better than I do. Yeah. So.

00:29:01
Speaker 2: Ben Jones, longtime Titan, was on a podcast.

00:29:06
Speaker 1: What's the name of the podcast? You watched it? Buck Rising? Yeah? A radio show, your boy Bucking Nationale. First of all, he's a radio host in Nashville. I think he has the funniest name in public life. Look at there. That's the thing. If you have low t you can go get your Buck Rising. Well, sir, great joke. It's a great joke. Take a victory up on that very much. I'll leave it right there, all right, I'll tell this story why you parade around the iHeart buildings giving hot pops? Uh So?

00:29:38
Speaker 2: Ben Jones, longtime captain center beloved Titan. He was on the Buck Rising podcast and he said that in twenty seventeen, their offensive coordinator was R. Terry Rubisky and Marcus Mariota was their quarterback.

00:29:52
Speaker 1: So former Washington Commander's heade coach.

00:29:55
Speaker 2: And that Rubisky would not even talk to them during the game, not like when the defense was out there. Like, would not call plays, would not even be on the headset. He was the offensive coordinator, and he would tell them Billy correct me if're wrong. But I think the exact quote was go have fun out there, boys, and then would not talk to them again.

00:30:14
Speaker 1: The rest he didn't call any play. No.

00:30:16
Speaker 2: So in the playoff run where they actually played well beat the Chiefs, Ben Jones said he and Marcus Mariota were in the huddle just trying to figure out calling out offensive place because.

00:30:25
Speaker 1: Which has to be They can't even see the whole defense.

00:30:29
Speaker 2: Yeah, and there's a guy getting paid a hefty mount to be the coordinator, And ben Jones said he would tell them.

00:30:35
Speaker 1: Y'all have a gun. They got no help from anyone, or just no help from Rubisky. I guess some analysts were helping, okay, but I mean they were talking about how they were trying to set up the run and Mariota would just call a draw. I mean, Terry Rubisky's what was he doing? Is he nothing? Literally hang out a spectator with great seats. But they did beat the Chiefs, didn't They go to the AFC Championship that year, to the championship game that.

00:31:03
Speaker 2: Wasn't the championship season. That was the year they beat uh uh.

00:31:09
Speaker 1: In the AFC. Still, though, that's a pretty good year considering you didn't have an offensive coordinator. So what did Terry So if Terry E. Rabisky did no calling to play the offensive coordinator, what did he do when he was the head coach and commanders?

00:31:22
Speaker 2: It really makes you wonder how did this not come up during the season, Like when you have an end the coach short Fisher? No, that would have been twenty seventeen.

00:31:31
Speaker 1: Was that Cheff Fisher? Right? No, Fisher has gone in twenty s now wizen Hunt? Is it with it? Yeah?

00:31:36
Speaker 2: It was wizend Hunt. That was right when wizdm Hunt changed over.

00:31:40
Speaker 1: Okay, no, they would have been eight and eight if it was Fisher, mister five hundred, all right, But just like, how does a coordinator do nothing? I don't know? And it really.

00:31:48
Speaker 2: Well And yeah, it doesn't come out until almost ten years later.

00:31:52
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I mean. First of all, the reason that ten years it was Mike Malarkey was the coach. It was the first time they'd gone on the Buck Rising podcast. Welcome back from your victory. By the way, the office was last You're welcome. That's the thing. If you want to find out, like you want to find out the information, just go get Buck Rising on the case. He'll lets you know where those files are. He doesn't have low te he just never has well as a Titans fan, does that upset you that you went that long without an offense coordinator?

00:32:29
Speaker 2: It's really one of our more memorable runs with that Mariota game. It's just added to the list of things.

00:32:35
Speaker 1: That they can go that organization. God love them, I love them to death, but I got a long list of what are we doing so that one's now on it. Well, I like the story. Terry Ribisky does nothing, still gets paid. My kind of guy. Go get them boys, have fun. The report came out that after last week's game, Jalen Hurts and Saquon Barkley called a meeting with aj Brown where they addressed their concerns about his attitude. All three people said, not a big deal. The story did get leaked, which makes me think it had to be a little bit of a deal. Like if I just call you and Billy and say, hey, can we talk, I don't think they're just gonna show up. In the New York Times, the next day, so clearly like somebody wanted that out. Is this a big deal or no deal that there was a stars only meeting in Philadelphia. I think it's a big deal.

00:33:27
Speaker 2: I mean, Philly is loaded, but they need to not have unnecessary drama like this, and they need AJ Brown to be locked in. They're going to repeat. I love AJ Brown. I'm siding with everyone but AJ Brown on this one. It seems to be a little bit whiny.

00:33:43
Speaker 1: I he was whining even when they won. Like I can understand him whining after they lose last week, but he was whining after they were winning. Well, his numbers are down yet he needed to wind last week because he actually caught passes, but they still lost. But he has it's like nine or ten targets a game the last three games. I don't have a lot of sympathy for you. I mean, I'm sorry you haven't got in the end zone. You don't have Pro Bowl numbers so far. But it's not like they've forgot and you exist out there. Uh.

00:34:08
Speaker 2: They maybe this meeting worked. Whatever it takes, they got to get him focused because it's just a distraction that could set back a Super Bowl team.

00:34:15
Speaker 1: Yeah, he is it could. I don't. I don't think this is the hugest deal. But I think if it comes out a week after the meeting with people saying it's not a big deal, I think, as as one Bill Shakespeare said, methinks thou dost protest too much, So I would say that I do think it's a it's a it's a little bit of a deal.

00:34:37
Speaker 2: So he's tweeting scriptures about leaving and mirror lastri read a book on the sideline. This is kind of a behavior and faulty for that.

00:34:46
Speaker 1: Yeah, reading a book right now called Rejection, which is about like nerds and in cells. Okay, you know what an in cell is? No? What is it? People who are voluntarily they don't want to be celibate, but they are, okay, so they just can't get This is a book about like it's a fiction book like short stories, and it's actually really good. You get into these stories. They're interesting. I could see how like you don't stop so literally when the defense is on the field, I'm not doing anything anyway, I can catch up on the.

00:35:22
Speaker 2: Book and if they cold time a little better, were you into chapter right as they forced the potectly just the short stories.

00:35:27
Speaker 1: It's perfect for a game.

00:35:29
Speaker 2: A couple of pages. Knock it out, get the short go to the next one. A book called Rejection, aj Brown. That might right now, he might he felt.

00:35:36
Speaker 1: That might have been what he was reading. You had an interesting stat Billy about Jamar Chase.

00:35:41
Speaker 3: Uh yeah, so you know Cincinnati plays Green Bay this week. But yet Jamar Chase has more solo tackles this season than Micah Parson's, which is.

00:35:52
Speaker 1: That is amazing? Well, first of all, that's bad in a myriad of ways. It's bad that Jamar Chase is having to tackle anyone. Now he has four five, It's got five tackles.

00:36:05
Speaker 2: It's gonna make the Pro Bowl is a lot better. That's what that is crazy.

00:36:09
Speaker 1: He has five tackles, but then that Michael Parsons has less than five. That's did the Cowboys win the trade?

00:36:19
Speaker 2: That surprised me about Parsons, But I've also seen several highlights where he's forcing interception.

00:36:24
Speaker 1: He's not talking anybody. That's true.

00:36:26
Speaker 2: I mean, right now, if you had a probo vote vote, you go to Michael Parsons.

00:36:31
Speaker 1: I think Mike is going to be fine, though probably it's probably so, is it worse. Is it a worse look for the Bengals or for Michael Parsons.

00:36:40
Speaker 2: Jamar Jay should never have with any tackles fest five and five games.

00:36:45
Speaker 1: Average won a game. He's better going both ways than Travis Hunter. He is Travis Hunter. Yeah, all right, Okay. So one of the things we want to do here, we want to do uh it is Netw're basically after this week going to be a third of the way through. We're going to go through the divisions, okay, and I want to We're gonna do a little game ling. I have my DraftKings shared on. We're gonna Billy's gonna give us the odds to win each division right now. And you're not gonna pick here who you think is gonna win, but you're gonna say, what's the bet? What would be your best bet here? Okay? Like if I said to you, I'm giving you one hundred dollars to put on each division, where are you putting the money? Okay? Which might also be who you think is gonna win, But maybe you want to take a little bit of a gamble on one of them. Right So, Billy, let's go first, what's the first of it.

00:37:37
Speaker 3: Let's start with the NFC East here, where the Philadelphia Eagles are the favorite to win the division at minus one ninety. The Commanders come in second at plus one ninety five, the Cowboys third at plus eleven hundred, and the New York Giants at plus twenty thousand.

00:37:54
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, so obviously you're not gonna pick them, the Cowboys or the Well, I say, obviously, I'm not gonna pick the Cowboys or the Giants. I still, even though it's not a huge pay off, I'm gonna take the Eagles at minus one ninety. I think they've been more consistent than Commanders. I still don't think they've hit their best. I think you know, I'm only going to win forty five dollars doing that, but I'm still gonna do it.

00:38:19
Speaker 2: I agree, this is not something I've been in real life. I need a little more odds than that.

00:38:23
Speaker 1: But for this exercise, I can't pick against the Eagles to win the NFC East. So you're always take the money. I can get it. They don't like every favorite. You don't like it. Two to one, no, actually three to one to knock off the Eagles. I need better than that. Okay, all right, what about what's next?

00:38:39
Speaker 3: NFC North is next only plus odds. Here, the Lions are the favorite at plus one hundred. Packers come in at plus one twenty, the Vikings at plus one thousand, and the Bears at plus twenty eight hundred.

00:38:53
Speaker 1: You know, I mean the Bears at plus twenty one hundreds. Not do it? I mean betting with your heart there to tell me twenty eight to one, twenty eight to one, then I wouldn't get to it. I'm going to take the lines because I think they're gonna win it, so I'm gonna go ahead and take. But I would say to you what I would do is I do like one hundred dollars. Actually I do two hundred dollars on the Lions, so that way I would win for it, and then I would go ahead and take like twenty bucks of that or twenty five bucks and then put it on the Bears because if they win, then I won't worried about that money I lost on the lines. That's what I would do if I were doing it, because I think that's not twenty one hundred. They're only game back, right, They played the line in a half four and one and okay, two and two. Whatever it is. Whatever, they're gonna win every game. So they went out. That's big if they're gonna win out. But but I would take the lines but the Bears. That twenty hundred is pretty good. What would you go?

00:39:47
Speaker 2: I was prepared to take the Packers until I heard the Lions are still plus money. I thought the odds would have been a little longer on the Packers because they already have a tie, they have a loss that they weren't supposed to have. So I was ready to go Green Bay as a kind of a second here. But if I get the Lions at even money, I gotta take.

00:40:06
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I like that. I'm not gonna go fair. Would you do that twenty five dollars on the Bears? No, but I'm rooting for you. I'm saving my twenty five dollars bet for the Titans, all right? What's next?

00:40:17
Speaker 3: NFC West is next, where the forty nine Ers are the favorite. It must minus one twenty five. The Rams come in at plus two hundred, the Seahawks are plus five hundred, and the Cardinals are plus thirty five hundred.

00:40:29
Speaker 1: Seahawks are live at plus five hundred. But I'm not gonna pick them. The problem is I would I'd really love to have the Rams at plus two hundred. But the problem is, again we've talked about this a lot. The forty nine ers schedule is just such a joke, and they've proved that they could win games with Matt Jones as well, whereas I don't. Who's the Rams backup right now? It's uh In Nittra boy, Jimmy g. Oh, it is Jimmy G. That's not a bad backup. Actually, I'm gonna pak take the forty nine Ers at minus one twenty five. But if the forty nine ers had lost last week, then I would have gone ahead and done the Ram. But I'm gonna take the forty nine ers because they forty nineer just beat the Rams the outside of the time break. This is this is.

00:41:12
Speaker 2: One where I like our odds and I like the Rams. Here I would bet the Rams, and honestly, at plus five hundred, I might have split it between Rams and Seahawks.

00:41:19
Speaker 1: So you're you're you're out on the on the forty nine.

00:41:21
Speaker 2: Ers in a division this tight, I only they have a lead and they already have a win, but they're so banged up. I'm not a believer in them to begin with. If I can get what was it two to one on the Rams or five to one on the Seahawks, I'd go that direction. I'll say the Rams to play a little safer, but the Seahawks. It's not crazy for that kind of that kind of odds there.

00:41:41
Speaker 1: Okay, all right? Uh, what's the what's the South? NFC South?

00:41:44
Speaker 3: The Bucks are minus four twenty five right now, twow fifth straight division title. The Falcons are plus five hundred, the Panthers are plus two thousand, and the Saints are plus four thousand.

00:41:54
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go ahead, and I mean, there's no money in betting on the Bucks here. What's the Falcons record? Two and two? I might have got to do with the Falcons really just for the money, just for the odds. I mean, the Bucks are the favorite right now. They are a game and a half up. I'm gonna just do the my Maybe Baker Mayfield got hurt and I picked the Falcons. That's what that That's really the only reason. So I would put the money on the Falcons just because who wants to win twenty dollars on the Bucks.

00:42:20
Speaker 2: I would never bet on the Bucks, and I also think the Bucks wi win the division. So I'm gonna get even crazier and put on the Panthers. We're probably gonna lose it anyway, listen to you, why not mathematically thousands?

00:42:31
Speaker 1: Oh, come on, that's mathematically they're only taking the path. Well, they're not gonna win.

00:42:36
Speaker 2: I mean, the Bucks are obviously gonna win, but I would rather lose money on a long shot than betting minus four twenty five. So just like picking the long shot in the derby, why not give me the.

00:42:45
Speaker 1: Paint rowing money away? Well, I mean you took the Falcons. They're not winning either. They lost thirty to zero. Yeah, Panthers beat your team. They're gonna beat the Bills this weekend, and then you're gonna be sad that you didn't You didn't do it. I really answer those the Bucks are unstoppable. What about the AFC? All right, this is a much closer division, the AFC West. We'll start out with the.

00:43:20
Speaker 3: Chargers and the Broncos are both plus one seventy five, while the Chiefs are plus one ninety and the Raiders come in at plus eight thousand.

00:43:29
Speaker 1: Wow, those plus one seventy five plus one seventy five plus one ninety. Yeah, that's tough, man, because the Chargers are three and two, the Broncos are, well, what are the Broncos? They're three and two, and then the Chiefs are just two and three. The Chiefs schedule opens up. Let me see what the Chargers schedule does here coming up. So here, let's just go through the Chargers. They play at the Dolphins. Then they have home Colts, home Vikings at the Titans, home Steelers at the Jags. Those are hard games. They still have to play the Eagles, stuff to play the Cowboys, Texans. Give me the Chiefs at plus one ninety. What do you got?

00:44:07
Speaker 2: I was already gonna go Chargers before knowing the odds, even though the offensive line is getting Herbert killed.

00:44:13
Speaker 1: The last two weeks. You don't. You don't think the schedule is hard. I just read it is.

00:44:16
Speaker 2: But they already beat the Broncos, they already beat the Chiefs. They got a significant head start at the stage, so I'll take them getting plus one seventy five or whatever you said. But if the offensive line doesn't get healthy.

00:44:27
Speaker 1: Improved, let me see if this changed your mind at all. Let me give you the chief schedule coming up. They play the lines, but then they've got Raiders, Commanders, Bills, Broncos, Colts. I will never mind. Oh man, the chief schedule's awful thought. Why did I think it was easy? Let me go through this again. That's who they play lines, Raiders, Commanders, Bills, Broncos, Colts, Cowboys, Texans, Chargers, then your Titans, Broncos, Raiders. Never mind, give me the Chargers. I'm switching. I didn't realize that was that hard. They might not make the playoffs. I mean, that's a hard schedule.

00:44:59
Speaker 2: Earlier I said I think they'll make the playoffs, but they're not winning the vision.

00:45:02
Speaker 1: I had that in mind. I think they'll make the playoffs. I the only certain win in that group.

00:45:08
Speaker 2: Losing that game to the Chargers week week one was a big setback for them with the schedule they have and then them getting a head start in that division.

00:45:15
Speaker 1: Say, hard schedule, All right, what's what's the next one?

00:45:18
Speaker 3: The AFC East is next, where the Buffalo Bills are minus four twenty five.

00:45:22
Speaker 1: Yeah, just that's what I'm picking.

00:45:23
Speaker 3: The Patriots are plus three fifty, the Dolphins are plus twelve thousand, and the Jets are plus thirty thousand.

00:45:29
Speaker 1: I think the bet the Jets would be a heck of a move at oh to five the Bills. I mean, I don't want to bet minus four twenty five, but you.

00:45:36
Speaker 2: Have to, right, Yeah, like when I did the Panthers in this scenario, they have much more hope than anyone.

00:45:43
Speaker 1: Else in this division. I can't bet on the Dolphins or the Jets, and I'm not getting enough. I will say this. I want to read you. I'm going to read you the Patriots schedule because the Patriots schedule, when I get it pulled up here, is absurdly easy, and they have a head to head already. Drag Bay looked good. Yeah, so let's let's uh, let me go over. Here's the Patriots schedule. Listen, it is. Compare what I just said with this one. Saints, Titans, Browns, Falcons, Bucks, Jets, Bengals, Giants, Bills, Ravens, Jets, Dolphins. That is an easy schedule. Like, that's a really, really easy schedule and what should be two of the hardest games left.

00:46:32
Speaker 2: One is at Cincinnati, which went from very difficult in Week one to now count that as a win.

00:46:38
Speaker 1: Go over to the Bill schedule, Falcons Panthers, Chiefs, Dolphins, Bucks, Texans, Steelers, Bengals, Patriots, Browns, Eagles, Jets. Not terrible, but harder than the Patriots schedule. But I'm still gonna take the Bills. Yeah, Bill, Bill's are winning, right, What's next?

00:46:58
Speaker 3: The AFC North is next where we've seen a line change. The Steelers are minus one oh five and now the favorite to win that division. Earlier this week at one the Ravens, but Lamar Jackson missing more practice. They're now at plus one fifteen. Cincinnati is at plus seventeen hundred, and the Browns are plus two thousand.

00:47:16
Speaker 1: I mean, I think you have to take the Steelers, right. Cooper Rush's gonna play again another week? I mean, I mean who the Ravens played this week?

00:47:27
Speaker 2: I can't believe the Ravens are only plus one fifteen and they're one and four.

00:47:30
Speaker 1: That's nuts. The Ravens play the Rams, how can we mean? They're probably gonna lose this game, so they're gonna be one in five. That's a crazy odds for one win team. I mean, they're gonna be one in five, so how can you how can you bet them? I'm going Steelers. I think you gotta go see I actually think this is of all the ones we've done. Steelers play at home to the Browns if they're if they win, and they're four and one, and then the Ravens are one and five. They have a three and a half game lead, and I'm sure you got Cooper Rush right now. But that's the offense will fix itself. The Ravens defense, yeah, is just not getting I have to tell you, I hate to do this because it's Aaron Rodgers the bet of the day for me. No, this is the bet of the day minus one oh five for a team that already has a two and a half game lead. Yeah, I'm gonna take the Steelers all right. By the way, how about the North falling apart? Nuts? This was supposed to be the best division in football, and I'm not sure anyone's good.

00:48:31
Speaker 2: No, and it's it might make the Rogers Steelers experiment when we weren't sure about look a lot better than it could really be because of the competition.

00:48:39
Speaker 1: You don't have any thoughts of Joe Flacco bingals plus seventeen hundred. I was I was thinking.

00:48:46
Speaker 2: About taking the Ravens even at one and four. No, part of me is believing in the Bengals with Joe Flacco.

00:48:54
Speaker 1: Just keep that one in the back of your mind.

00:48:55
Speaker 2: I might go Dylan Gabriel leading the Browns.

00:49:00
Speaker 3: Finally, south Yep, the Coults are lines one fifteen. The Jags are plus one fifty five.

00:49:06
Speaker 1: Got that.

00:49:06
Speaker 3: The Texans are plus five point fifty Andrews Titans are plus twenty five.

00:49:11
Speaker 1: The Texans have the best defense in the NFL. They've allowed twenty five points less than the second best. Em It's pretty good deal. They only about sixty four points all year just for the record.

00:49:24
Speaker 2: Well, the Titans are helping them out. It scorches zero against them, so that's throwing the number.

00:49:29
Speaker 1: So I'm just I'm just saying I'll take I'll take the Jaguars at plus one fifty or whatever it was.

00:49:34
Speaker 2: What about you, man? This one's really tough. I mean, the Jags and Colts are right in line. If I'm power ranking the NFL, I'll take Indiana Jones. I'm gonna believe in Indiana Jones.

00:49:46
Speaker 1: I agree, they're about the same, but I'm getting better odds for the Jags, which is probably why I'm picking them. Yeah, when do they plays that coming up? I don't know who would have thought that would be a must watch game, Jags Colts whenever, whenever that takes place. So that is your Those are your NFL Division odds, sponsored by no One, but that could be you kind kind of throwing a prob bet. Sure, will the Jets win a game? Yeah? They win? You got them winning one? For sure, they'll win. They'll win two or three, they'll they'll be taking the over on two and a half. Is that what it is? Is that the number?

00:50:24
Speaker 2: Actually they might have that that was mine. Actually they do what is their season wins? Let me scroll two and a half?

00:50:32
Speaker 1: They're having them on here. Not enough for a court. Okay, so here's soon the Jets play. They are in uh, they're in London against the Broncos. Then they go Panthers, Bengals, Browns, Patriots, Ravens, Falcons, Dolphins, Jags, Saints. I mean, you play all the bad teams. Yeah, they got a shot to win. They'll win, definitely win one. Four and a half, four and a half. No, I think i'd go under under. Yeah, I might actually bet that right now. I think I'd go under. But I definitely think they Wonders plus one ten. All right, So I'm parlaying yeah, yeah, under. I'm going Jets under the Titans at four to half. What are we doing when I saw in parlane Jets and Titans four and a half under that? Dude, that's a great one. Chanson Titans both under four and a half. Dude, I need it. Let's call my banker and get some money moved.

00:51:23
Speaker 2: Sorry, honey, I put the house on my football team continuing to suck.

00:51:28
Speaker 1: Wow, that is an amazing Uh. I can't I can't believe that. So that's what it is. All right. Now, let's go over some games this week, sort of pick what we're gonna do. Let's start we always just just let's start with our little games here. The Survivor pool. Drew is out of the Survivor by I have billion irem uh we. I have picked the Broncos the Ravens in the line, so I cannot use the Broncos, the Ravens the line. You have picked the Jaguars, the Cardinals, and the Bill, so you can't pick them. It is your chance to go first. So which game would you like? This week?

00:52:05
Speaker 3: I Am going to take the Indianapolis Colts at home against the Arizona Cardinals.

00:52:10
Speaker 1: It is a debacle.

00:52:12
Speaker 3: Over there with Jonathan Gannon Indy at home minus seven and a half.

00:52:17
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray, can you catch a snap? Give me the Colts. That's amazing because I love the Cardinals to cover the spread here, and I'm kind of shocked you do that, although you you've done a pretty good job of picking teams that you wouldn't have thought that one would piss. It's a tough slight. I'm interested to see where you're gonna go here. He's gotta be one of the highest spreads, right, Yeah, I mean I'm going I'm going Packers if you getting if you're gonna I mean, Packers fourteen and a half point favorites against the Bengals. Joe Flacco is literally still trying to sign the lease on his uh on his apartment. So it's dangerous though, I mean, but the beating green Man. Yeah, but that's the thing. Green May is not gonna be like, We're not losing to this old man twice in four weeks. So I'm gonna take the Packers. You got the Colts. I got the Packers. If we finished this, you know, the good thing, I will have lost a bunch of good teams. But remember I picked the Ravens, and nobody will picked the Ravens again, probably, Yeah, I got lucky with that one. Yeah, but you still have a lot of powerhouse teams. I still probably would rather be in your position than mine right now. But I'd rather be in either of your positions, to be honest. Since I'm out, Chargers knocked you out. Who'd they lose to seven and a half point favorite? Knock me out? Yeah? Well, anyway, there you go. All right, so let's look at the schedule. We'll start with Thursday night football, Eagles and Giants.

00:53:41
Speaker 2: What do you think, Drew, I'm enjoying the Jackson Dart debut the last couple of weeks, even though they didn't get a win. It's fun watching the Giants with herds having neighbors out.

00:53:54
Speaker 1: But we love Wandell. He's getting new opportunities. Cam Scattabow is like America's favorite football player right now, so it'll be a fun game, but they're not winning. Eagles. Eagles win it, even though they saying they like Cam scout Bow more than Jackson Dart. See, I would think in Pittsburgh they would like Cam Scattabow because he's blue collar and his like heads made of steel. But the Jackson Dart would be the pretty boy New York lifestyle. But apparently they love him in New York. There's so many clips. Billy and I talked about this. I think you'll like it. But there's cam Scadboo keeps getting dirty, but they play on turf and no one can figure it out. Like after the game, he's covered in dirt and you're ripped up, but it's like you're playing on carpet. There's all these little he's almost like a little folklore running back out there.

00:54:39
Speaker 2: There's clips of other players miked up talking about him, like who hell is this guy? So he's just become a fan favorite across the league.

00:54:45
Speaker 1: I think I saw I look at this slate here of games outside of that one, and uh, you know again, it feels like last week's slate was kind of and I feel like this one is too. There are two games that stick out, not necessarily the ones you would think, what about Seahawks Jaguars three and two four? One? Can the Jags go five and one? They will? I'm taking Seahawks by way. Well, it's one of those you win and then you come down.

00:55:12
Speaker 2: Well, they got to come down to Florida. That's a long way to go. It's true, big on traveling across the country here.

00:55:18
Speaker 1: We don't like the game at one o'clock when you're from the West coast.

00:55:21
Speaker 2: That's mainly because I'm still mad that the Chargers lost to the Giants in New York. So I'm just gonna ride that that take into Seattle will not be ready for Jacksonville. And they got to be fired up in Duvall. That hot tub or whatever they have at the stadium's to be full of people. They're dreaming dreams.

00:55:37
Speaker 1: Right now in the coach you think about. I guess when the Jags were playing the Chiefs, right back to the Maning cast, they showed that hot tub and there were like a group of people in it, all fairly normal looking people but in their swimsuits. And Peyton Manning was like, so they put the camera on it, and they took it off, and Peyton Manning goes fire that camera guy for taking away from that shot. And Peyton slow down, man, Well thirsty, aren't we? Peyton? You know you got some hydrating, some hydration, you don't have to worry about the tea there. Yeah, just Peyton was very adamant get the get the shot back on the Would you go into a pool? Uh? Would you go into a pool at a pro football game and sort of scamper around?

00:56:33
Speaker 3: And no?

00:56:34
Speaker 1: Because for me, I'm thinking.

00:56:35
Speaker 2: About when you leave everyone's like going to dinner and you got your towel and your flip flops. You're just like splashing water going out the door when all your friends are going to a.

00:56:44
Speaker 1: Bar or whatever.

00:56:44
Speaker 2: I think I feel like I'd just be awkward swimming.

00:56:47
Speaker 1: At an event. It doesn't look like that big a pool, so it's gonna feel like you're just taking a bath with people.

00:56:52
Speaker 2: Oh and everyone is peeing in that pool. You're not getting up. Nobody's getting a bathroom line. At a stadium when you are standing in a body of wat it's.

00:57:00
Speaker 1: Going to be a yurine pool. Everyone's peeing in that pool. Close game, in a fourth quarter, everybody, I do wonder, who do we know? Like, are those expensive tickets in the pool? I would assume they are. I thought this.

00:57:12
Speaker 2: I haven't looked, but I assume they're probably really expensive. In the beginning, and then you see person after person get in there and now they're like, would anyone like to get into this hot tub that we haven't washed?

00:57:25
Speaker 1: Going up to people, please be in the hot tub, and they're like, ooh, hatulations we've upgraded your seats here to the cabanas for the pools cost twelve five hundred dollars each, which include fifty tickets and pool access. All right, so you get fifty tickets. So to just do the math, how much is that? That's basically two hundred and fifty dollars a ticket? Am I right about that math? If so, that's pretty impressive. I got that off the top of my head. I'll trust you. Yeah, I think it's twelve, because if it was one hundred tickets, it'd be one hundred and twenty five dollars each, just moving the debt like the comma right, the decimal two. So if you have fifty, you double it. It's two hund fifty douars. Right, it's two hundred fifty dollars a ticket, you know, I mean that's a lot. If you knew fifty people, would you do it like that? Would you do it like chip in and let's go to the pool, And you know.

00:58:20
Speaker 2: I would absolutely go fifty My friends pay two fifty and wear normal clothes and stay at the cavana and watch the game and not getting the fight, getting in the Postay, I like that, dub I will take the cavana.

00:58:32
Speaker 1: Oh, it'll be fun to hang out there right in your team, Billy, the forty nine or the Buccaneers are playing the forty nine ers, this will be the game once again, could come down to seat them when you're getting to the number one seed. Buccaneers are at home two and a half point favorite. You feel good about it. I like your bucks a lot in this game, by the way, a lot. This would be my Matt Jones triple finger, get a smile on your face lock of the week. Yeah, Baker's shot in the Titans Jets under.

00:59:03
Speaker 3: I don't know how the forty nine ers are four and one. It is incredible that they have and they're losing this game. I think, well, they're in Tampa two, so.

00:59:10
Speaker 1: Get me get across the country again. Cross country. For me, this is like, I'm shocked, it's only two and a half. I would have thought it would have been six and a half or seven two and a half. Like I again, call the banker. We're doing a second one here on the Bucks. I love the Bucks in this game, don't you.

00:59:29
Speaker 2: I like the Bucks here too, although I might wait and live bet when they go down fourteen. Oh, then Baker leads them back in the fourth quarter to win, because that's what he's done just.

00:59:37
Speaker 1: About every week. True.

00:59:39
Speaker 2: But yeah, as we've said every week, I'm not a forty nine ers believer, and I think the Bucks have been awesome this year.

00:59:44
Speaker 1: Are you surprised the Chiefs are favored against the Lions? They are at home? What was it again? Like a point? It can't be much two and a half? Two and a half? Yeah, that does seem a little high. Yeah, I'll say I'm a little surprised by that. Are your Titans gonna beat the Raiders? That's one of your few chances to win this year? Yes.

01:00:02
Speaker 2: Actually I am picking my Tennessee Titans to win a second straight game because the Raiders have fumble problems, and if you fumble near the Titans then will turn it into a victory.

01:00:12
Speaker 1: So we're gonna get the dub and we will be hot. That's a good slogan. If you fumble near us, we will recover. We we can fall on.

01:00:21
Speaker 2: The excuse me. If you fumble it, then one of you kick it, and then another one. If you kick it, then we'll fall on it. Two Monday night games.

01:00:28
Speaker 1: Again, I don't like it. What's that about? I don't like it. They do it like three or four times a year. Why, what's the thought process? I don't know. One of them. One of them's Bills Falcons. I kind of thought those two teams never played each other. It's a rare mass. I want you to think about. Have you ever seen the Bills play the Falcons in Atlanta? I don't have a memory of one. I didn't even know Josh Allen had been to Atlanta, had even flown through it. I can't think, you know, I can think of most games that occur. I can think of one time it happened. I'm sure there are some I can't but in gen role. But two teams have been along around a long time. I can't think of a scenario where the Bills played the Falcons and now they're celebrating it and on Monday night football head to head? Yeah, is it your bears for Bills Falcons?

01:01:21
Speaker 3: No?

01:01:21
Speaker 1: I was just going to say.

01:01:22
Speaker 3: When ESPN agreed in twenty twenty one, with Disney over the football games, they received extra game inventory, and that's what they've decided to do.

01:01:30
Speaker 1: Is bringing Bill's falcons for the extra inventory. Well, that's nice. That does when they went to eighteen games, it was a combination of those things. Okay, the other game is a good one, Bears Commanders. This of course was the game last year with the Hell Mary game. It was about this time in the season. I believe the Bears had started four and one. We're two and two this year, but I believe we started four and one, maybe three in one, and then we lost the Hail Mary game. I still remember where I was. I threw a chicken wing at someone, like some times I didn't throw it. This is the repeat of it. Do the Bears get revenge? This really changed the trajectory of both team seasons Lash in a big way.

01:02:19
Speaker 2: I'm gonna lean know, if it's were in Chicago, I would take your Bears in a little bit of an upset. But I don't have them getting it done in Washington night game. They'll be fired up. I'll take the Commanders here, but I say Bears keep it close spread it's four and a half. I'm gonna say we covered. I'm gonna say we win. This is the Caleb breakout game. This is the game he needs. He goes and gets the win against the against Jane Daniels, who played much better than him the first year.

01:02:47
Speaker 1: This is his game. Drake May's had his game, Bo Nicks has had his game. Jane Daniels obviously had that season. This is the game where Caleb goes, Okay, this fearsome forsome is actually a foursome, and I'm gonna take my Bears to get the win.

01:03:01
Speaker 2: I think they can do it. I get a few Bears Bears jokes off, but I have belief in them. It's tough vision, but I think the Bears have turned it around. And Kayleb Williams has something.

01:03:10
Speaker 1: I've hated the Commanders since I was a little kid, for no reason other than the fact that my fact that my friend Trevor liked them. We all had those relationships, and Trevor and I don't even talk all that often now, and when we do, it's never about the NFL. Matter of fact, I don't even think he knows I do this podcast, even though he's the biggest NFL fan in the world. Trevor if you're listening, Just send me a text that says you're listening. I don't think you got an hour and three minutes through it, even if you did. But there's no reason for me to still hate the Commanders because of Trevor. Trevor lives in Birmingham. I don't ever see him. He's moved on with his life. I think I don't even know if he still watches the team. He was very mad when they changed the name. Still break it for him. Yeah, I still really want us to win, just in case that's mug little ass Trevor decides to help me. Drew. I feel like this. I feel like that's fair. The grudges we hold from the teams we pick when we're six years old. I have a few of those, do you. I have a friend that I grew up with him.

01:04:19
Speaker 2: His favorite teams are Alabama football, Duke Basketball, Green Bay Packers, New York Yankees.

01:04:27
Speaker 1: I know that sounds made up that those are his teams. That's not fair. You can't from Western Kentucky, those are any roots for what Kentucky basketball? No doo, okay, you can't do that. You are not allowed to pick any form. You cannot say Alabama than Duke or Kentucky and the Yankees. That threesome is not allowed.

01:04:46
Speaker 2: And he throws on the Packers and he's from western Kentucky. Yeah, not even near any of those places. You have to do what I do, all right. I root for the Cincinnati Reds, the Chicago Bears, the New York Nicks in the Carolina Hurricane and we have one. We've won one thing in thirty five years and it was the Carolina Hurricanes.

01:05:12
Speaker 1: That's it. That's character. That sounds miserable. I love losers. Also, you're what, You're what Tennessee. And then the Braves they won a World Series recently. Yeah, I don't think the Braves are losers. They've won a bunch.

01:05:25
Speaker 2: But I don't really care about him as nearly as much as the Titan for I'm four different cities.

01:05:31
Speaker 1: I picked four different cities and picked four losers. No one's accusing you of being in front of Runner sax Alabamad Green Bay Yankees. That guy stinks, well, Billy, anything else? Did I missing? Do we want to do TD parlay this week? Did our TD parlay? All right? So right now Billy leads two one one. Remember we can pick. He got Jackson Dark the last time we did this and got it right.

01:05:59
Speaker 2: Big winner plus three sixty five. That's a big hit for a touchdown. So you can get either running back, wide receiver Ti end or quarterback Drew. It's now your turn to go first. You cannot pick Najoku, Chase or Nico Collins. Who do you want? I'm gonna go. I don't think, heyah, he did score last week. I'm gonna take the easy, the heavy favorite. He's probably like minus two hundred.

01:06:25
Speaker 1: I'll go with Saquon Barkley since I get first. Saquan all right, so you're taking a running back, He's gonna take Saquon. That means, Billy, you have to either pick a wide receiver or a quarterback. You have picked McCaffrey, Jonathan Taylor, and Jackson Dark. So who would you like?

01:06:40
Speaker 3: Okay, I am gonna pray on the bad Ravens pass defense. Give me DeVante Adams to score a touchdown in Baltimore.

01:06:49
Speaker 1: You will pick the random ones. It's interesting to me. I tend to pick stars. So you take a wide receiver, that means I got to take a quarterback. So I already have not I've already taken Hurts Lamar Lamar's hurts, so I can't take him. So I'm gonna sit here. I go, oh, that would be something you think I could Green Bay slack killer. I got to look up the odds on Flacco. That would be Flacco would be a heck of a pick. I'm gonna take Daniel Jones against the Cardinals. Uh, Danny Dimes, I think is going to run one in And I will take Daniel Jones against the Cardinals. So if you did a parlay, if you would like the cover zero parlay which is yet to hit Saquon DeVante Adams, Daniel Jones probably can get some good money on that. I would think, don't you think? Yes? And I will be parlaying it because this is my favorite way to bet. Yeah, and Flacco is plus fifteen hundred to score. I love it. That's crazy. For any time to Flacco scores, that will be uh, that will be pretty IMPRESSI all right, well, thank you all very much. You are off to Colorado right. Yes, I'm gonna be doing a late one.

01:08:01
Speaker 2: I'm landing at the airport and licening late Sunday night and coming straight here to knock out the next episod.

01:08:06
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