Padres pick Craig Stammen as manager, Giants hire Bochy & Tingler, Phillies keep Alvarado

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Speaker 1: A couple of crazy things from earlier today before we dive into some breaking news. I hosted Fair Territory today with Ken Rosenthal. It was a blast. I got to do my first ever dude in Dork of the Week.

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Speaker 2: Who did you choose?

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Speaker 1: Dude was Kirby Eights, Okay, dork was Jim Murray. Both very very deserving of their awards. But two things that stood out from that. One is it's just weird. We were doing five intriguing teams to follow this offseason and we're talking Padres and then I looked down on my phone because grilan Ken was going to be next, so I was starting to look to see what grilan Ken questions there were and then it was like breaking Padres, higher cruigs, Noam, and I was like, that's weird. And number two, this is for a j Ken at the top of the show called me Emperor and wanted you to know that. He was like, I'm on with the Emperor of Foul Territory. Sorry, Emperor, that was the word to use. I was like, hey, you try to be humble, so I'm not going to use that, but I will use that just in my later show. And he said, please do.

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Speaker 2: Ken must be really looking for a leader. He's really searching far and wide for a leader for him. But wow, yeah, wow, Ken, Ken, you need to quit text me.

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Speaker 1: I told him to come up with a better name for you and something for you. Maybe by the next time we have him, which I.

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Speaker 2: Believe is tomorrow tomorrow, he can come up with something for me. Tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: It'll be easy for him to come up with something tomorrow because you won't have a response. You'll have to wait till Monday. So anyway, off season means a little more back.

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Speaker 2: Way till he gets to Orlando for the Winter Meetings. I'm going to pick him up and put him in my pocket and carry him around for a few days. We need will be my number two.

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Speaker 1: At some point we need to talk about Winter meetings like a guide to Orlando for everybody coming to the Winter Meetings. That might be your favorite segment ever a month.

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Speaker 2: I know. But the problem is where they're stay. There's not much around there.

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Speaker 1: We have to use your car, drive around, taking cheating.

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Speaker 2: You need ubers because it's not really around much.

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Speaker 1: Okay, just for some context, since I've got the New York City and Orlando balance, going two blocks on any ride share service in New York is equivalent to like a thirty minute ride in Orlando, just to give contact how easy it is to grab a car and spend twenty bucks or whatever to go somewhere versus New York two blocks traffic, you get out, you're like, actually, I could have walked.

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Speaker 2: But the problem is where I think, said JW. Marriott, And is that where it is? I think it's at check the Hotel, which is one of the great hilarious things of all time about Orlando and Disney World. So Disney World has this massive property right hundreds of thousands of acres. Well, there was a guy back in the day that heard that Walt Disney was going to build disney World here, and he hated Walt Disney. So he bought a bunch of acres right in the middle of his plot first, and he has it where you can never build and never be sold to Disney. So in the middle of this big, gigantic expanse of Disney World, there's a circle it's called Bonnet Creek, and there's like a Waldorf, there's a JW. Maria, and there's another hotel, and they're not part of Disney but they're in the middle of Disney property and they can't ever be owned by Disney. It was like the biggest fu to Walt Disney of all the time. He literally has his giant property in the middle of the golf course, you know, multiple hotels, all this stuff, and it's right there in the middle. And that's where I think the winter meetings are. And then to get anywhere you have to go out. Yeah, out out.

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Speaker 1: There's a rooftop restaurant where I've been a couple of times, and everybody watches the Disney fireworks because they've got prime view.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I mean it's right, you can watch this in my backyard. But they're right, Oh I know, Yeah, they're in the property. I mean the talk about a nephew to some some Yeah, that's good. Oh yeah. And he has it like in it when he died, he had it in his will that they can never be sold to Disney ever. I mean, it's Jimmy Bee's prime. It would be prime hotel property for reducing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they would spend anything to get that exactly. Wow, that's good. All right, So we'll do an Orlando primer at some point to talk more about everybody coming down here in a month. But let's get to breaking news about Craig Stamon is the next manager of the San Diego Padres. Forty one years old, spent the last six seasons of his big league career, a long one as a reliever with the Padres, and this would comes out of left field three year contract with Stammon and the Padres. He's been working for the team since he retired, so twenty twenty three, twenty four and twenty five as a special assistant to the general manager. And he worked a little bit with the major league team, a little bit with the minor league team. What do we think about this? Then we'll get to the Pooholes and anyone else that was in the running factor, But what do we think about Craig Stamon? A young Craig Stamon taking over in a big time role like this with some big personalities and a team that is expecting to be in their winning windows.

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Speaker 2: Still, this is the new way. This is they say in the Mandalorian and other Disney reference. This is the way you get into an organization and you've become a special assistant to the manager of the GM the owner and then when they have a job opening, they hire you because they already know you, and you've already told them all your ideas and like, I like his idea, and oh if you get and then they can say, oh, well, I've heard him talk about this, I like that idea, or I like this, I like that, and then this is this is kind of the way. And then also they say, oh wait, I can I already know him so I could tell him what to do and we have the same ideas on everything, and then we do you know this and that? So I mean, I hope it works for the Padres. We'll see, but I don't know. Craig Stammond has always come across as a smart guy and a nice guy. But we'll see. I mean, he's been there for a couple of years now, so they know him better than we do. But you know, good luck.

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Speaker 3: Everybody I know that played with him says incredible, dude. My biggest hang up anytime a pitcher gets a managerial job, it is hard to part of probably one of the biggest things of managing a team is how you manage your bullpen. So he knows that part of it. He knows, you know, when guys lie, when guys don't lie how far to push some guys? You know how far he could be pushed. So I think he's got great insight on that, great experience on that. But how much does he know the other ins and outs of being in the dugout. I'm not talking about x's and o's of baseball. I think you can be learned out of the bench coach that does all that. But how much does he know the ins and outs of pushing a Manny Machado, pushing a Xander Bogart's pulling back the reins on a Fernando Tatis, Like that's the kind of stuff that he's going to have to navigate.

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Speaker 2: I think sometimes.

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Speaker 3: Pitchers don't always have the experience the insight. He's been in the organization, so he knows how organization works. Great dude, sounds like he's an incredible people person. But to make a political reference, back when George Bush was finding a vice president, he hired Dick Cheney to be his vice president. After he had hired Dick Cheney to be the person to go find him his vice president. So is this what happened with Craig Stamon. Craig Stamon was in on all the all the managerial meetings and he's.

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Speaker 2: Like, pretty good, it's pretty good. And he just took everybody's ideas and he's like, I'll be the manager. I just I just I don't know. I mean, again, this is another fascinating higher because who's his coach is going to be. That's what this all comes down to. Vitello, but Terra and now Stamm and all these guys that really have no experience ever being in the dugout of a major not that statement has him been in the dugout, but I mean, like running a team, not a coach. Who are they hired to help them? That's the biggest That's what I want to see. What's their network like and who can they bring in that they trust to help them run the bullpen. I know Neeblo is probably gonna stay there, so I'm assuming Stams is gonna be like Ruben, you run the pitching staff and I'll just take care of the other side of it. But who's going to be their bench coach? Who's going to be this guy? Who's going to be that guy? That's the things to me that are fascinating about these hires is can it work? Absolutely? But they've also never had to make decisions. Do I bring in a pitcher? Do I bring in do I pinch it? Do I do I do this? Do I do that? How do we do this? There's a million things that happen so fast, and I think every manager you talk to that does this for the first time is amazed by how fast the game actually goes. When you're sitting in that seat, and you better have somebody sitting next to you, that one you can trust, you can have arguments with and get over with it and get over it and also know that they have your best interest and also the team's best interests in mind. Because Krats, I'm sure you played on teams and I've been around it where coaches don't always mingle because sometimes guys have different motives and because they're like, oh, maybe if he gets fired, I can slide into that job, right Like, So, I mean, there's always there's always ulterior motives, And that's the thing that's fascinating is how do you find the right guy to be by your side through thick and thin.

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Speaker 3: Maybe Craig has somebody like that. Maybe I don't know, I don't know, but I know Ryan Flaherty was on that staff. I'm not sure his status now, but he's been interviewing for some jobs. Ruby Diebola, I think it was actually in the running for this job. So do you bring two coaches back that didn't get the job that they wanted and now they're just being your you know, on your staff instead of being the head honcho. I saw. I saw one time we had a bench coach and I won't because I'm not gonna throw I'd love to throw the one person under the bus, but I'm not gonna throw the other guys under the bus.

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Speaker 2: The bench coach. And then there was like a big league coach on this team that the manager would look past the bench coach. They would all stand all three right on the rail and look past the bench coach for the other guy's the other guy's opinion on subjects. And the bench coach incredible, very talented, knew the game, all that stuff, and he just had to stand there and just it was so awkward. It changed the next year, but it was so awkward to see him always like, Hey, what do you think about this? Hey, what do you think about this? And the bench coach was like and anytime he spoke up, it was bad news, but it was. I was. It's so awkward, So hopefully that doesn't happen.

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Speaker 1: How do you think a recently retired player will do who has spent time now in the front office, and I would assume is on the same page as AJ Preller with this particular ball club. This is a team that expects to keep winning. It is a party, it is an awesome scene. We've talked about this in San Diego. They fill that place up. The fan base is rabid, and they want more winning. I don't know what they'll do this off season yet. I don't think they're going to spend like crazy. AJ, but this is the type of team in my mind, that has some veterans who are strong personalities. And I don't want to say necessarily how to say in this, but I wouldn't be surprised that there were conversations an I. Machado has been there for a long time. He really likes to be involved with the leadership portion of a team. I'm assuming that he gave two thumbs up on this one.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he would have to. You have to know did he play with stanman there as a player when Manny got there, or was he already.

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Speaker 1: Gone, I'll check that while you're talking about.

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Speaker 2: It, because yeah, listen, there's probably two people on this team you really need to get well. It was probably three, actually, Nanny, Fernando and I would have said, you Darvish, but you Darvish is out for twenty six, so I would have said, those are probably the three people you would have They did play to get crossed, Okay, So they know each other, so they have a relationship prior to this, So I think that, Yeah, I think they definitely had to ask probably those three guys before they made this higher because Manny has a lot of poll. He had a lot of pool, especially when Peter Sider was alive, he had a lot of pool. You could go to the owner and just get anything done. So I like the fact that they probably involved players. We don't know that for sure, but it just sure seems like it was part of it.

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Speaker 1: Okay, good luck to Craig. We'll learn more about how that all went down next layer. For the last couple of minutes, Albert Poohols will be shut out from a manager role. There were a ton of openings. The only one left is the Rockies. As Ken said on Fair Territory, he does not want that. I wouldn't call it smoke fog. So he's not going to be a manager to start twenty twenty six, he will manage the Dominican Republic team in the World Baseball Classic. But are you surprised that he didn't get one of these, especially after the.

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Speaker 2: I thought he was going to go to the Angels. I thought Angels was going to be the one.

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Speaker 1: Right, and you just said, hey, work with a team, then they bring you on. Already was interested, but might have offered him a one year deal.

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Speaker 2: Or he's also got a new GM this year that team and Albert played for for a long time Cardinals bingo.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but yeat, he wants that job too, and Ali Marmo might no.

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Speaker 2: I know, listen, I mean him bloom though, is new Oli Marmle? I love obviously, I love Ali Marmon, But new GM, new front office knew everything. Maybe Albert sits out for a year and says, hey, look what I did for the Dominican in the World Baseball Classic, much like Mark de Rosa does all the time, tooting out thing to try to get a job.

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Speaker 1: Right, Well, he has to sit out now, I know.

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Speaker 2: But I'm just saying he sits out, and he says, oh, well, I really wanted to go to Saint Louis the whole time. You know, I don't know, but like I thought he was going to get the I thought he was going to get the Angels job. Everyone was saying that he was going to get the Angels.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and he didn't. Kratz question for you on Poolholes. Do you think that he should spend this season on a major league coaching staff. I don't know if he will. He does some TV work, he's doing the DRWBC and it gets complicated. He shouldn't be worried about money, but he'd probably have to give up the one million bucks for a you know, one hundred and fifty thousand dollars coaching contract instead. Should be no big deal if the long term goal is manager. I'm just saying. The Angels do have that situation by the balls to some extent. But if you were him and you really want to manage, shouldn't he try to link up with a team this year? It might be too late because most of the coaching stats have been picked by your thoughts.

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Speaker 3: I think he went through all the I think he went You have to interview. First, my buddies who have become managers are like, look, the interview process is different.

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Speaker 2: It's like it's long. It's not like, oh I can't handle it, but it's exhausting because it's just you know, they put a situation, the lineup, what the record of the team is at the time, and then a situation that happens in the clubhouse, and.

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Speaker 3: Then you know this is going on during the game. How would you handle this? And you have like an hour to figure it out. It's like basically taking tests. Now he's gone through that. To me, whatever reason he didn't get the job, Like if it's with the Angels, he didn't get the job because he was like, no, you're still gonna pay me my million dollars that I would have gotten, and you're gonna pay me like a regular manager. You know, maybe he isn't that far off of being a manager. If the other teams are like, eh, you know, we're gonna go in another direction. It's not me, it's you kind of thing. He needs to work on that kind of stuff.

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Speaker 2: And I never being a manager, but only talking to my buddies who have managed and are working towards being managers. Being on the bench matters so much. It matters to your street cred with players, it matters to how you figure out. I mean, Albert's been out of the game for a few years. Things change, You figure out how to deal with the new player, and I think Albert has to learn how to talk to the twenty to twenty sixth the man on the roster. Not saying he didn't when he played. I'm just saying superstars, that will always be their hurdle when they go to be a manager.

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Speaker 1: Some of these hires or candidates like Albert could have a high ceiling, but he also could have a low floor. Craig Stammon being part of the Org now for multiple years, knowing the guys like that gives him a higher floor than Albert Poohls. I think that's part of this, Like, Hey, what's the best and worst case scenario here for a team that's contending for a playoff spot. I think that's a factor when they made their decision.

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Speaker 3: But again, when does this work out? We asked this about the Blake Butterra thing. When does this work out? When does a Hall of Famer step in to being a manager without any experience and it work out.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, So Craig Samon is saying, hey, just go run the pitching.

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Speaker 1: I'll take you should have some ideas, although his ideas have already been expressed. He's been with the team for years, does a great job. This is good for continuity if that's what you're into.

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Speaker 2: The other side is more of a I don't know, we'll see, we'll see. I hope it works out for because for the Padres, because they have a good thing going. I don't want it to go away.

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Speaker 1: I don't think they want to shake things up too much. I think they like what they've got right now. Okay, bring someone else in. There's risk factor external higher.

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Speaker 2: I hope they spend some money and bring back some of their players.

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Speaker 1: Mm hm. They will still bring back the same guys, but they'll do something. Hey, they made one of the best signings of last offseason. Nick povetta is signed up to a nice contractor he was a number two starter this year. Yeah, pitched like a two, like a really good two. Hey, congrats to Kenta Maida. He is returning to Japan, So I think he's retiring from LB. I don't think he's going to come back at this point. Had a nice run. He wasn't as good the last whatever a couple of years, I guess at this point. But he was really good for a bit.

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Speaker 2: Who had a good career. It's some money too, it's money Rodgers, Twins, Tigers or else? Was he so only three I can think of off the top of my head. That might be it Mets. No, he didn't spend a season with the Mets.

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Speaker 1: No, just those three.

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Speaker 2: You gotta just those three. I mean, listen, he was kind of an interesting guy because he was came up as a starter. But then is his career when he kind of became like a swingman at the.

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Speaker 1: End of the season. Always they would try.

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Speaker 2: To put him in the bullpen, and yeah, make him because he had that nasty slider. He's an interesting he had a nice job though. He's hid a nice career in Japan. Now he's going back.

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Speaker 1: It's also almost thirty eight years old.

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Speaker 2: So what I'm amazed is like a lot of the Japanese guys I played with Crafts, like Tadahito Agucci. I thought he was done over here, and then he goes over Japan and plays like seven more years.

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Speaker 1: It's incredible.

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Speaker 3: It really is like incredible fitness of those guys. They do it completely different. Japanese players do it completely different than American players do. From high school all the way on a super dedicated, super very intricate workouts. Flexibility, mobility. Eachiro would always talk about it. Roald bidey As would talk about all the stuff Eachiro would do. I know, each row is a freak. Ky's Hall of Famer but they really go to a gym in Japan looks completely different than the gym's over here.

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Speaker 1: M hm. A couple of Cubs questions. One was say, why did they get Tucker in the first place, Well, rentals are real. Other teams rentals. The Yankees rented and.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but the difference in Soto is that the Yankees actually tried to resign. They wanted to re sign Sodo. I mean, the Cubs have pretty much come out and said, yeah, we don't really care. He was here for one year and we're gonna move on because we can't afford them. The Yankees legitimately wanted Soto back. They they threw everything out him, and the Mets just beat them. So ore I mean corb Yeah, but to me, the Corbyn Burns trade they made. They made an offer, They made him an offer, they made him a huge offer. He didn't accept it.

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Speaker 1: That's fair.

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Speaker 2: So the Cubs different. The Cubs will say we tried.

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Speaker 1: And also there was another question about Dansby Someone's.

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Speaker 2: Asking Andy's got four more years? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Or about They were like, can you go into detail how they only have under contract after twenty six? And I was like, is there an op out? Now there's not He's there for a long time.

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Speaker 2: See finally a good finally, good front end graphic. Finally, finally you like that. Yeah, but the only problem is Michael didn't have his socks on, and that.

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Speaker 1: And shake it up. Well, you need to tell everybody what you just saw, because there are many people that listen to via podcast.

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Speaker 2: There's me being a bartender and serving drinks to Michael. Our social underage are underage. He's not underage, and he's not an intern either, and he's famous. Now now whatever he is, let's get he sleeps in his socks, He'll always be my intern until he.

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Speaker 1: Doesn't sleep in his socks. Jay Stingler is going to join Tony Vaytello's staff in San Francisco. They were college teammates at Missouri and they have remained close friends. Okay, it's a good experience.

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Speaker 2: Jas that experience.

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Speaker 1: He's coached for a while, he's managed. That's a good one.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a good start. Yeah, stuff, Especially they're close friends. He's got someone there that supports them.

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Speaker 3: And I don't want to I don't want to bury the lead, but ninety percent sure he's coming on the show tomorrow. Tingler to talk about it, but he's in the middle of Zoom meetings, so I'm just being completely honest. If he gets a Zoom meeting, he won't be Omega. But tomorrow Ftfense, so you'll get more Tingla.

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Speaker 1: That'd be awesome.

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Speaker 3: The person that played with that had the least the least power ever, Me and Jays played in Hi A together minus power. You know when you see like the little kids like the little kids hit and the ball hits their bat and the bat likes bounces back.

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Speaker 2: That was Tangler. But in pro Bawl was he a contact titter super contact.

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Speaker 3: They would draw the left fielder in because he would just he made the All Star team in High A because he was just so balls over the shortstops head. And then they started bringing the left fielder in super contacted her.

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Speaker 1: What if we combined you and Jase Tingler as a player.

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Speaker 3: I mean, the amount of Sexiest Men of the Year award that you would win it would be ridiculous, but.

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Speaker 2: I do like it.

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Speaker 3: Now you have somebody that has been a manager in the big leagues knows Tony as well as you can know Tony, and Jase has done everything. Jase has gone from he ran the Dominican Academy. He then brought like Rugie. I'm trying to think all those guys Jackson profar, those guys that came up with the Rangers, brought them up back up to the States, and then he managed them at each level. Then he was like a quality control coach. Then he was a big league manager. Then he's been a bench coach for a while, so he's seen He's seen a lot. So I think it's a great hire.

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Speaker 1: Speaking of buyers, Bruce Bochi back to the Giants as a special assistant.

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Speaker 2: The Giants are just bringing. Why don't they hired Bruce Bochi is the bench coach. I don't think. I don't want to do that. I'm always a ratager. I rather be in the office with Bustner.

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Speaker 1: That would be a demotion. Susan Slesser, who is the special contributor to splash Hit Territory brand new show and FP Santangelo hosting. Susan tweeted, I joined FP again on splash Hit. We talked about my chat with Greg Johnson in the San Francisco Chronicle, including Bruce Bochi's return and other topics. But Greg Johnson is the controller, right, Is he the main guy controlling the team these days or whatever?

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Speaker 2: No, I have no idea.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, but he's a decision maker.

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Speaker 2: So this is great though. This is another person that Tony Vitello and Chase Tangler and the rest of his crew Buster Posey included, can bounce ideas off of. I love this. Listen. Just because you're in a position of power doesn't mean that you can't have people that one aid you can have conversations with and they might disagree with you, but at least you get ideas and you can bounce ideas off people, and as long as you're okay with not always agreeing with you, like Boach, probably won't agree with everything Buster Posey says, but at least you have a sounding board in Boach and Tingler and Vitello can bouncings off of each other and see where it goes. Because this is how you learn and get better. You got to be able to talk and not get mad and then move on. And I think the Giants are trying to assemble a staff from front office down that can have open dialogue, and that's a good thing.

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Speaker 3: I sat in I sat in the catchers and pitchers meetings pre series. When I played for the Giants, Boach was in there, Buster was in there, like the guys like those are two guys, Buster and Bochi that just watch a lot of baseball.

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Speaker 2: They remember a lot of baseball.

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Speaker 3: So are they going to be the guy who's just taking over meetings if they're sitting in there watching. No, But they add different things that.

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Speaker 2: That will help.

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Speaker 3: And I think Tony seems like somebody that's open to other people's opinions and isn't afraid to listen to somebody that has more experience in an area.

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Speaker 1: Bruce Boats used the legend you want him around as much as possible, and he's not going to get in the way either. You know what I'm saying. Like, there's some guys that are there and it's like you gotta be careful with what they're doing, and saying Boach is the opposite of that. It's just like good times, good hangs, great advice, the whole deal. It's like they're bringing the band back together, right, let's bring the winners back. That was beautifully done.

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Speaker 2: Say splash three time, splash splash it, splash it. Mm hmm.

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Speaker 2: It's cool.

00:28:33
Speaker 1: We have a free agent coach, John Hammond reporting that Don Mattingly is stepping away from the Blue Jays on great terms and leaving them an excellent position. But this is not a retirement announcement. He is open to new opportunities. I want him to get it.

00:28:48
Speaker 2: This is to me why because everyone got along so well there and matting I mean, does he want to be a he's not going to be a manager.

00:28:55
Speaker 1: I have an idea. I think he maybe moved back to the US, or to move back to the US. I mean he's got a young kid. I think still yeah, but no, you don't.

00:29:05
Speaker 2: Think that's what I just I think this one's interesting to me because everyone's you know, all you hear from every guy is like, man, we got along so great, and wow, we loved each other and we wanted to be with each other and this and that, and then all of a sudden, maddeningly, he's like, I'm stepping away out. Maybe he hasn't you know that he would be a great hire as a bench coach for Greg's dammon in San Diego. I don't know. I mean true, you know, just someone that's been around, it's managed, he's done it all. So I don't know. I'm just it's just interesting.

00:29:33
Speaker 1: You want the title too.

00:29:34
Speaker 2: He got so close.

00:29:35
Speaker 1: Just now, great, that's all you got?

00:29:45
Speaker 2: Did you come across all?

00:29:46
Speaker 3: I got no Dinny baseball, and I never did. But Schneid's was like a kid in a candy store. He was like he was like a kid when he like, hey, you have five hundred dollars to spend it toys r us and he was like.

00:29:58
Speaker 2: WHOA I get Don Maddenley as my bench coach. He's like, I don't even know what to do.

00:30:05
Speaker 3: I don't even know what to do with my hands like he's a legend, and I think he's somebody that did great managing. He did well, honestly, got a lot of players that played for him enjoy playing for him. But what now, I mean, do you run it back with the same team. Maybe he didn't like being up in Canada away from family. Who knows. I mean, the dudes had thirty nine years in baseball. Forty years in baseball. That is so many years.

00:30:36
Speaker 1: He'll find a job, He'll get something he's pretty well liked. Yeah, Schnider was funny because you got to see more personality from him this year as they were very successful, and he's loving being with Donnie Baseball. He loves that he gets to pull Scherzer right. I was waiting for that moment. I enjoy that kind of openness from a manager. I'm dialed in, but I'm also having a lot of fun and I know how appreciative I should be in this position. I liked that relatable guys. I did a couple of topics here in hot corner. This first bit of news was basically known. I believe that in his press conference at the end of the season, Dave Dobrowski mentioned this and it happened. Jose Alvarado was suspended for PDS, missed half the year, had a nine million dollar club option. They decided to bring him back, and Matt Gell wrote in The Athletic Kyo he would have been one of the best lefty relievers on the market. They've talked about this a lot on the Philly show, Pratts, you're our Philly guy. Are you good with this? They're looking at it as we know him and we know what a picture like him would get in the free agent market. The other side of it is he got popped for peds. Is he the same guy when he goes through multiple cycles without it? Your thoughts?

00:32:09
Speaker 3: I mean, rarely is the guy that got popped only did it once? But yeah, you know what, who knows? Who knows if he's going to be the same guy. He was pretty nasty when he wasn't like this spring training. I think he had like something ridiculous, like twenty strikeouts in spring training in like eight innings that he threw. And then he started the season out he was slinging it like. He definitely had an uptick, not necessarily in his velocity, but the results of this stuff. So he was good before that, he was good last year. I guess I don't have a problem with it if if his teammates don't have a problem with it, and everything we heard from Topper to different guys we had on they loved Tozy and so that's the only time when it would be you know, maybe we don't bring him back, but it's hard to turn down one of the top left handed relievers for only nine million dollars for one year. I mean, that would be a that'd be a bold statement by the Phillies to not pick this option of.

00:33:07
Speaker 2: David Nebrowski said on our show he was gonna pick it up. I mean he said it right.

00:33:12
Speaker 1: I didn't remember if we talked about it he.

00:33:14
Speaker 2: Brought it up. He's like, oh, yeah, it was definitely coming back. I mean, so there was no suspense in this one. I mean, listen, steroid p D guys have they're just forgiven and forgotten. Now honestly, it's not are they.

00:33:32
Speaker 1: I mean, you guys tell my teams. Do teammates care? No?

00:33:37
Speaker 2: Not really, they don't, right because they That's what I'm saying.

00:33:39
Speaker 1: If he comes back and he pitches, well, then you know, if you're Bryce Harper or Turner.

00:33:44
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean Fernando Tatis. You think the Padre's care that he got in trouble for PDS. He say, Baseball doesn't even care. They put him, really cares well.

00:33:54
Speaker 1: The one risk is I mean, if you get popped again, then you're out for the full season.

00:33:58
Speaker 2: And okay, how how did that affects Alex Rodrigos.

00:34:02
Speaker 1: I mean, he's another world.

00:34:03
Speaker 2: I'm just saying, how did that affect him? Does anybody care anymore that he did that? Yes? Who? Okay? But I'm just saying, most fans out there do they care?

00:34:13
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame voters?

00:34:15
Speaker 2: Okay?

00:34:16
Speaker 1: Do most fans care? I actually think they do.

00:34:18
Speaker 2: Do they for him? Yes?

00:34:19
Speaker 1: Because he did it a billion times? I think for others it's harder to know exactly how deep it got. His story.

00:34:25
Speaker 2: We know how deep it got. He I mean, he's told us a million times he did it since he first started. Because he had Alex.

00:34:31
Speaker 1: I'm saying for other guys, they usually don't.

00:34:33
Speaker 2: Bartolo Colone. People love Bartola Colone. Everyone just conveniently forgets he was a steroid guy. Melson Cruise, Nelson I was there when Nelson Cruz got suspended. It was one of the most happy. They're nice guys, they're happy it doesn't work. I mean, I'm not trying to pick them people. We're getting farther and farther from it. Mattering actually mattering for people testing positive for steroids. Because Jerkson profar he still gets all of the rest of his contract. Was that worth it?

00:35:08
Speaker 3: Yes, re people reboot their image, they get to go back out and they play again. So unfortunately we're getting farther from it, Matt from it mattering to.

00:35:24
Speaker 2: Your career. Eh, you know, he was a steroid guy, but ah, who cares. We're putting them on on our team's Hall of Fame. Ah, he's a steroid guy, but who cares. He's funny, he's a nice guy. He's got a great smile. Like it really doesn't have the effect that I think some players feel like it does. And whether that's jealousy from those players or that's just players being like, I know what I put into it, and I didn't cheat, and this guy still gets like notoriety, And I don't know what the answer is, like ban them from everything baseball? No, nobody's nobody's gonna do that.

00:36:02
Speaker 1: Do you guys think there should be stricter penalties, and do you think players.

00:36:06
Speaker 2: I just don't think it matters anymore. I mean I think I think if I'm a person and I just want to make a bunch of money, and I can do this, and I can get a big contract and I miss half a year. So let's say I sign a five I miss going random or five year fifty million dollar contract and I have to give up five million, so instead I get five million. Forty five million. Seems like a pretty good deal to me because they can't take that money away. So I mean, listen, it's it is what it is. Where we're out of the game. They're trying to clean it up. There's no way to there's no perfect answer. Yeah right, But what I'm saying is is that when you're talking about this, people forget. They move on. There's the new cycle with social media is so short now. But oh he was suspended, Oh care, Oh he's back. Yes he can help us get to the playoffs. Cool. Yeah, I said, that's where we're at.

00:36:52
Speaker 1: I think opposing fans care. But then the fans.

00:36:56
Speaker 2: Get after a year anyways, because then it's onto the next thing. People. I'll tell I told the story many times. When I was in Anaheim, years after the two thousand and five when all this stuff happened with me in two thousand and five, fans are booing me and a good buddy I was sitting in the stands and he looks at him and goes, hey, why are you guys booing it? And they go, I don't know. I guess he used steroids or something. They have no idea, They have no idea. He's so I'm gonna boo. The astros trash can thing has lasted longer than guys doing steroids hatred.

00:37:26
Speaker 1: It's not even close, not even close.

00:37:28
Speaker 2: Yeah, which one? Which one cheated the game more?

00:37:30
Speaker 1: Which one's a bigger advantage?

00:37:33
Speaker 2: I would I would contend to almost the steroids.

00:37:36
Speaker 1: Gosh, if you're on the right roids, look at some of the careers, I mean, any victories. It's an important thing.

00:37:42
Speaker 2: I hate getting into this because it just gets it gets it gets me.

00:37:45
Speaker 1: We don't talk about it very often, so I know it was worth a few minutes to find out. Really, if you guys think the penalties are strict enough and you're saying no one cares, okay, well it's it is still half a season. Like you do miss that player, and also you do miss that play in the postseason. I do like that part. Right, you don't get to have that player come back if.

00:38:03
Speaker 2: Your jersey profile and your team doesn't make the postseason? Who cares?

00:38:06
Speaker 1: I agree? And also if you sign a contract that's long term, it's not like it messes up the rest. There's some fans will be like, oh, that voids the contract and that that's tricky because.

00:38:16
Speaker 3: Then that's the owners. The owners are like, fine, I'll take I'll take a no, no long term contract. So there's there's got to be some culpability there where. It's also like you're protecting you're protecting players too, so I get it, Like you avoid contracts, Oh man, that would be great. Owners would be like, we're kind the whole thing.

00:38:39
Speaker 2: It brings in a whole it brings in a whole different thing because you can listen if there's a bad contract. And I've heard people talk about this before, like you can who's to say, oops, oops, I put something in your food by you know, And.

00:38:55
Speaker 1: When it comes to that much money, that's what I'm.

00:38:57
Speaker 2: Saying, like you and I know it's a crazy conspiracy theory, but not I've heard new many people say, like that could be a problem.

00:39:04
Speaker 1: It's it is a significant reason.

00:39:06
Speaker 2: Here's a smoothie from the team, Oh it had something in it, and oh you're getting drug tested after the game. You had no idea. I didn't take anything.

00:39:15
Speaker 1: You sign up a guy for two hundred and fifty million dollars and you suddenly hate him. That's a way to get rid of him.

00:39:21
Speaker 2: That's why that'll never happen.

00:39:22
Speaker 1: So that's a slippery slope. But that's why it's a good topic. It's it's complicated. It's not easy.

00:39:28
Speaker 2: No, it's not. It's a really complicated I just asked the question, like you know that people people forget they do, fans forget, forget quick you're right on the news.

00:39:39
Speaker 3: My solution is, you can't get any awards after that. You test positive for steroids, you can't. You can't make an All Star team, can't win MVPs, you can't. You can't win those awards all your teams.

00:39:50
Speaker 2: They don't. They don't care about that. I mean, if you're if you're a long term deal, who cares. I mean, if you're to get pup, you're not going to the Hall of Fame. So then who cares if you win MVPs and all that stuff. I mean, and that's if I'm in a two hundred million dollar contract and I lose. You know, Oh, no, I can't go to an alscar game. Everyone outs out of those anyways. Oh I can't be the MVP. I'm probably not gonna win one of those anyways.

00:40:11
Speaker 3: So, but this way, you're not taking it from other people. This way you're not taking Jerckson profar. Jerkson Profar took somebody's job, and I forget what his name was in both of them were on the team at the beginning of the year in San Diego. Obviously, Jerkson had the year that he had. His ex velocity went up five miles per hour at age thirty.

00:40:32
Speaker 2: And that guy ended up going down.

00:40:36
Speaker 3: He's kind of been bouncing up and down from the big leagues the last two seasons like that. That's where that's where I think it comes in. Is it the notoriety? No, It's like I just don't want I don't want someone else taking somebody else's award that did it clean.

00:40:51
Speaker 2: You're talking about completely different things here, got a job. You're talking about a job that's not even you're talking about maybe two different award or job like no, no, no.

00:41:00
Speaker 3: No, I'm saying that it affects other people. When people do steroids, it affects other people, no doubt.

00:41:07
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, okay, Well to be continued. I'm sure that this will come up at some point again, but good discussion and really just wanted to know, like, how else can you make this a more prominent penalty if you feel like it deserves to be that way? Because players did want more of a penalty, and they did up the penalty, right, it was lower at some point and they pushed it up. Anyway, let's swing back, we'll do all. That's what he said. Coming up next a clip from Crush City Territory. But MGM, social media account, what do you have for us today? Give one MLB off season bold prediction? Do you want me to read some examples that were replies to that tweet, Jordan said, Pete Alonzo signs with the Atlanta Braves. Why they have a first baseman?

00:41:59
Speaker 2: Ya? That is bold?

00:42:01
Speaker 1: That is bold. I mean he can dh Marcel Zoon is a free agent. They can.

00:42:06
Speaker 2: He won't want to do that though I know he won't.

00:42:09
Speaker 1: But that that rules him out of a lot of places, like if Kyle Schwarber leaves for some reason and they want a different DH, Pete could be that guy. But he has to be okay.

00:42:18
Speaker 2: With that slide right in there.

00:42:19
Speaker 1: I think he would do it because you'll still fill in guys get hurt and shuffle around. I don't know one other. I'm not going to read it anyone.

00:42:28
Speaker 2: Else, anyone else you guys that one? What was the other one?

00:42:35
Speaker 1: I'm sick of it.

00:42:36
Speaker 2: I haven't got into the off season mode yet. I'm still recovering, like Keika Hernandez from that from the World Series.

00:42:43
Speaker 1: I have something for you that just happened that a lot of fans were asking about, specifically related to our show. Alden Gonzalez just tweeted the Dodgers have picked up Max Munty's option for twenty twenty six. It's ten million dollars.

00:42:53
Speaker 2: That's the easiest. That's of all time.

00:42:55
Speaker 1: They keep signing him to those deals and Max love stayless. Guy said, not everybody goes for the top dollars. No, really, That's what I learned from listening to pest story.

00:43:06
Speaker 2: Sometimes you're just happy in a place Max is happy and ten million dollars a year. Is not a badseller.

00:43:10
Speaker 1: No, it is not super underrated player blue guy.

00:43:16
Speaker 2: Look at their numbers when he plays.

00:43:17
Speaker 1: Quality played, appearance guy.

00:43:19
Speaker 2: It's a great interview.

00:43:20
Speaker 1: You can call us bias because he's one of our favorite guests. But talk to any Dodger and that's one of the first players that comes up when they say, tell me about the core and what's super important here. We know Otani's good stuff like that, but.

00:43:34
Speaker 2: He changes the changes the lineup when he's in the game.

00:43:38
Speaker 1: Some teams have done that in the past, Like I know that was a thing with Carlos Santana in the middle of his career, right Kratz knows the Phillies signed him. There were some issues there, but the Phillies initially were like, hey, we need better quality abs. Let's find the guy who puts together great abs. Here's Carlos Santana.

00:43:54
Speaker 3: It permeates. It's like osmosis. Everybody everybody follows along.

00:44:00
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00:44:14
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what he said.

00:44:15
Speaker 1: That's what he said.

00:44:18
Speaker 2: That's what he said.

00:44:19
Speaker 1: That's what he said.

00:44:23
Speaker 4: I think it's really interesting because, you know, the analytics have become such a heavy, heavy part of coaching nowadays, and I had a hard time watching this team now. It may be because the astros have kind of have have run through all of these guys that were selectively aggressive. They were very good at zone command. They swung in the zone and when they did they made great contact. When it was outside the zone, they didn't chase. So we're starting to see maybe that generation of hitters kind of filter through the astros and move on the brain men's, you know, the tuckers, some of these guys that were very good at in the zone type thing. And sometimes it becomes an institutional thing where you're not getting the approach taught at a lower level and developing these guys to get to the big leaes, because the idea is once you get to the big leaes, you're going to see more pitches inside the zone. Granted, guys are nastier, spin rates are off the charts and the balls moving all over the place, but they have a tendency to be closer to the zone. And that's where I kind of found some of my frustration maybe in the last couple of years watching Astros baseball is, especially in twenty twenty five. Granted, there was a lot of roster turnover, so Alex Cintron and Snicker had to work with a lot of different guys. But when you see a whiff rate escalate as quickly as it did, a contact rate drop as precipitously as it did, they were still making hard contact, but they weren't making hard contact and appropriate situations. For me personally, I'm a risk guy. I am a get runner home from third base less than two outs guy. Those are paramount numbers for me for a team to be successful, because the Astros will always do a good job of getting on base.

00:46:12
Speaker 1: That's good stuff. That's your former teammate Jet Blum, who calls Astros games for years and was a guest on Crush City Territory or Astros show your thought.

00:46:21
Speaker 2: I like, I mean, listen, analytics, are you very useful? I want to make that abundantly clear. But there's also something to be said for guys that can do both. You can hit for power and you can drive a guy in from third base with less than two outs.

00:46:34
Speaker 1: You don't really use that stat to evaluate players.

00:46:36
Speaker 2: I know, but that the goal of a game is to score more runs than the other team. So if you have the opportunity to drive a runner in a run batted in, that means you're helping your team score runs. Right. And if you don't strike out with a runner on third and less than two outs and you can hit that sack fly or you can infields back and you hit the ground ball a second and get that runner in, that's a big deal. Give me those guys. Give me the guys that can get a guy over from second with less than two outs can do some different things because also it puts pressure on the defense because of the strikeout. It's like once you doay, okay, hey struck out, Now onto the next right like again. But I get analytics, and there are times where yes, go for the homers, but there are also times where you might have to do some right. What's that size? Yeah, I mean, listen, I understand analytics, and I agree with it.

00:47:27
Speaker 3: Analytics are a great way to build a team baseball and making contacts. You're just talking about hitting, making contact, being able to change your swing to be able to hit the inside of the ball and move a runner, pull hook something if you're a lefty, to try to get the runner over. Like those are things that win you the ball games. So if you build your team based on analytics, I agree with that, but you can't run it and play it every single day. Going here comes a two run digger. I know we're down by one, and if I get this runner over to third, it's great, But it's even better if I get the runner in. Like I saw people that were complaining about the IKF bunt with Vladdie on second, nobody out and moving him to third with the World Series on the line, Like I saw people complaining about you have three outs and you give one away. Took a really good play to make the play. Like, there's things that you need to do to win games. Like hey, Jay said, scoring runs wins you the game if you score more than the other team ops differential.

00:48:33
Speaker 2: Let me ask you this, those crowds are what you just said. You just said you want to build your team with the analytics, but then you also have to have this other guy. How can you do both? Then, because if you if you just build your team off analytics, then you also that doesn't, as Scott said, it include certain certain things that aren't necessarily statistically you know, I want so how do you how do you do both?

00:48:56
Speaker 3: We're talking we're talking about a lineup, right or just because that's what Blummer was talking about. I want the guys that hit the ball as possibly hard as they can hit it, and then I'm gonna have coaches who say, you know what, you hit this ball so freaking hard, we need you to be able to make this adjustment in your six hundred had bats, maybe in one hundred of them, maybe in fifty of them, to help us win the game. We're not just swinging for the downs. Okay, Analytically you can find guys who steal bases. Doesn't mean analytics like stolen bases. It just means you gotta find guys that are efficient in it, proficient in it.

00:49:34
Speaker 2: I'm trying to think what else you know? Because people say analytics all they care about is the three true outcomes. You are correct, So build your team with guys that hit the ball really freaking hard and then say, how can we make an adjustment when this type of pitcher is pitching against us to be able to get the job done. You can't just be a lineup that's like, oh boy, you're facing a camsh Littler, You're facing the tray, you savage. You have no chance to wear him down because of your swings. You have to build. And that's where I think the coaches come in. I think that's where the coach is understanding that the reason this guy hits the ball hard is because he is full sell in everything that in every one of his swings. How can you teach him to stay in the zone longer? How can you teach him to be okay with hitting thirty five homers instead of forty? That's that's the That's going to be the teams that make that adjustment that can take your team to can't that's what you just said, You can't because you just talked about the Yankees. Congratulations. Oh they do in these situations, they stink out of them. Usually that you have to be able to change. They're not going half layers aren't going to because the Yankee the Yankees, for example, they want the hard guys to hit the ball hard. We don't want them to change. We want homers. We want homers swing hard, Anthony Volpi. If Anthony Volpi didn't try to hit twenty five to thirty homers a year, cut down in a swing, his batting average to go up. His OBP would probably go up, his power would go down, and he could steal more bases. But what is he going to get paid for hitting homers? So that's what they all try to do. That that's the bottom line. So yes, what Blummer's saying I agree with. But at the end of the day, players in their agents say, man, you got to hit the ball out of the park and you got to drive the ball because that's how you're going to get paid.

00:51:22
Speaker 3: I mean, what did Max Muntzy say he'd in the World Series? He didn't care that he went over seven in that one game. There is a way, in my opinion, to take the analytics to create the team that is going to be the best team you can possibly put out there based on analytics. Then when it comes to the games, we got to have different conversations. Why did we pick you up? It was because you hit the ball really hard, and the Yankees because we were talking about the Yankees, they picked up a lot of guys they tried to get. At one point they hit three of the hardest hitting players in the big leagues and they had two dudes in the minor leagues were the hardest, you know, hardest ex of velocity.

00:52:04
Speaker 2: If but you can't you just said you but you build your You just said you build your team off that. Those guys that usually have the highest ex of velocity strike out a lot. John Carlos, Stanton, Aaron Joe swings and misses more than anybody. You can't coach him, though, unless you start at a younger age in the minor leagues and develop that, which they don't do. Because how do they get to the big leagues by hitting the ball hard? Of the Yankees organization and hitting homers. Hey, that's how they get to the big leagues? Right or wrong?

00:52:31
Speaker 1: This sounds like Dave Popkins at the Blue Jays this year and how he helped players.

00:52:37
Speaker 2: But they have different types of players. Though, they have different types of players. They don't have all home run guys.

00:52:43
Speaker 1: Right, But Hopkins would go to Bolpy right in theory calling out gangs hitting coach. I know nobody development wise and be like, hey, dude, like this might be more of the player that you are. Let's try to go down this path Yankee fans, you could judge people.

00:52:56
Speaker 2: But then Bolby's agent in his ears going don't listen to him? Do you need to keep hitting homers and you're gonna keep getting paid?

00:53:03
Speaker 1: I'm just lying, but I'm not gonna say it.

00:53:06
Speaker 2: What I mean, I don't even know who his agent they. He actually called Rob Manford and hey Rob, thank you soon. You know what I'm saying. But you know what I'm saying though, is like, yeah, we can all use Popkins. But honestly, out of their guys, I k bose of contact guy Glad, He's always been a contact guy. Kirk's a contact guy, right, Springer has always been pretty decent at making contact. Marshaw makes contact. Marge is probably the only guy that really swings, and he swings out of his ass, but he still makes pretty good contact. They don't have Aaron Judge, John Carlos, Stanton Volpi. These guys, are you know, Austin Wells are.

00:53:44
Speaker 1: Just ro bust.

00:53:45
Speaker 2: Yes, they don't have those guys. If you don't, if you build your team off analytics, you get one or the other, and the one analytics wants and the other one baseball people want, meaning like old schooler more old school people. It's fine. Both work. The Dodgers have a great combo.

00:54:00
Speaker 1: Both crack.

00:54:08
Speaker 2: All right, before we go, this is Pete mccheska. He's a Fox guy. He did the World Series for the last twenty two years. He received the Tony Kubiak Tony Kubeck Polish Hall of Fame National Sports Polish Hall of Fame Award for Media Excellence. They gave this to him during the World Series. So I want to give him some love. Welcome to the Hall of Fame, Pete. We love you, I love you. Welcome to the Polish Hall of Fame. Budd. It's something he'd been talking about for a while. We got him in. Now he's gonna go give a speech. He retired from baseball, he's still doing football. One of the great guys in baseball, in and in media for baseball, always promoting baseball in the game. Just congratulations, Pete. I want to make sure that he got some love for that.

00:54:47
Speaker 1: Yeah, awesome baseball career and his football career will continue producing wise.

00:54:52
Speaker 2: That go, Pete. He's got the Polish. Oh man, he's got the most new Jersey accident. Go Pete. Oh, It's unbelievable. It's just awesome. I love me one of the best.

00:55:02
Speaker 1: I have a quote from Joe Musgrove, Remember Joe Musgrove coming back, if healthy, good picture.

00:55:09
Speaker 2: Good picture.

00:55:09
Speaker 1: I'm saying, if when healthy?

00:55:12
Speaker 2: Why are you laughing because you just said if healthy?

00:55:14
Speaker 1: Like I'm saying like. I didn't mean it that way.

00:55:16
Speaker 2: I know, but it was just the way it came.

00:55:18
Speaker 1: Out the way it meant it is. When Joe's healthy, he's pretty good. That's a nice guy to have in the rotation. He wasn't there this year. Quote on the Stamina High quote. A little surprised at first, didn't even know he was even considering taking a role like that. But knowing he's in that spot, I couldn't be more excited. Level of respect he has from everyone in that clubhouse, I'm extremely excited. That's Marty Caswell reporting on that quote from mister Musgrove, so they didn't know he was going for it. I wonder how it all went down, and you.

00:55:52
Speaker 2: Probably didn't have to interview.

00:55:53
Speaker 1: There will be a great story about how it happened because it had to be a conversation where either he said, hey, I'm interested in this or Prowlers today, I think you.

00:56:01
Speaker 2: Are you interested? And so obviously it was yes, h that's all you need to know. That quote, it's all you need to know.

00:56:12
Speaker 1: I love the surprise higher. So many people were just auto pooh holes. And this goes to show a nine and a half hour meeting, which was what it was reported for pooh holes and is in person doesn't mean shit, And probably it's.

00:56:27
Speaker 2: A little too long nine and a half hours. I can't sit with anybody for nine and a half hours. That's a If I'm on a plane overseas, man, there's at least a three hour nap, right, you get a break from whoever sitting next to me.

00:56:40
Speaker 1: For me, that would be at least two, if not three meals. There's a lot going on in the nine and a half hours.

00:56:46
Speaker 2: Hours, right a bathroom. There's a lot of sharing a bathroom in the minor leagues in that nine and a half hours. Nobody wants to see me eat a meal.

00:56:53
Speaker 3: Either I'm getting fired, I'm getting there, I'm halfway through the and I'm getting I'm eating and they're watching me they're like, sorry, this interviews over.

00:57:03
Speaker 1: Yeah, so you skipped the meal, right, I would too do annoying. I did an interview once with a team for a broadcast role, and the guy took me out to lunch and it was one of those oh like, it's one of their places, so he ordered everything, and I'm like, I got bad news for you, Bud, this is not gonna go well. I have a lot of allergies. You cannot order for me. I did not get the job, all right, Yeah I am bougie doctor's territory coming up next. Hope you enjoyed the show today because we have another one tomorrow Friday. Kevin Pollar is back on the show with us for Friday's episode.