2 YEARS AGO: WWE Week in Review - Logan Paul & Bianca Belair Return, Gunther Defends IC Title, Cody & Jey Lose Tag Titles

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<v Speaker 4>Welcome everyone to the weekend review here on the WWE
<v Speaker 4>podcast for this Sunday, October twenty second, twenty twenty three.
<v Speaker 4>We're gonna talk about all the events that happened this
<v Speaker 4>week and on the back side of the show clean
<v Speaker 4>up the rest of the mail bag, emails and calls
<v Speaker 4>that we got that we didn't get to in the
<v Speaker 4>typical mailbag this past week. So those of you who
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<v Speaker 4>to at the back end of the show. But first,
<v Speaker 4>welcome to the podcast everybody. It is time to talk
<v Speaker 4>about this week in WWE. And as a reminder, if
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<v Speaker 4>All right, So we got the first thing on my
<v Speaker 4>mind here is biancabell Air returning during a Charlotte Flair
<v Speaker 4>and Eosky Women's Championship match to be Women's Championship match.
<v Speaker 4>I really enjoyed her return. I didn't expect it, and
<v Speaker 4>it felt like she needed that break to refresh herself,
<v Speaker 4>and she looked good. She felt fresh ish compared to
<v Speaker 4>what she has in the past. The crowd reacted to
<v Speaker 4>her very positively, and they firmly placed EO Sky in
<v Speaker 4>the heel role while Charlotte Flair played the baby face
<v Speaker 4>pretty well in that matchup, and we got a you know,
<v Speaker 4>another Charlotte Flair title match, but one that did not
<v Speaker 4>end with her winning. Although had it not been for
<v Speaker 4>the interference of Baby you could argue that we would
<v Speaker 4>be looking at a fifteen time WWE Women's champion in
<v Speaker 4>Charlotte Flair, but that did not happen.
<v Speaker 2>And you know, the whole.
<v Speaker 4>Eeo Sky run is, as I've said previously, it's been
<v Speaker 4>very underwhelming, disappointing to say the least. And I don't
<v Speaker 4>know if partly the crowd is to blame partly Creative.
<v Speaker 4>I'm putting a lot of this on Creative, and I
<v Speaker 4>know that's the easy thing to do, given I am
<v Speaker 4>a fan, instead of placing the blame on myself. It's
<v Speaker 4>because Creative essentially has ignored her since she won the belt,
<v Speaker 4>they have done nothing with her of substance. She has
<v Speaker 4>been an outside figure. It has been really about Bailey
<v Speaker 4>and Charlotte with no title involved. They don't give EO
<v Speaker 4>Sky a voice, and yes, there are ways to do that,
<v Speaker 4>and she has felt like kind of an afterthought as
<v Speaker 4>a champion, and it's been it's been frustrating for those
<v Speaker 4>that are EO fans and hear the reaction when she
<v Speaker 4>was introduced too right, you know, which was just indifference,
<v Speaker 4>not sure how to react. The crowd is just kind
<v Speaker 4>of not They're not down on EO. They just don't
<v Speaker 4>know what to do with her. And I think as
<v Speaker 4>time goes on, perhaps they have firmed her in that
<v Speaker 4>heel role. But at the same time, people are still
<v Speaker 4>waiting for Bailey to turn on her and that way
<v Speaker 4>we get an neosky babyface run and that's still in
<v Speaker 4>the cards. But it's just dragging out, and I don't
<v Speaker 4>know why it's dragging out. I don't mind if Charlotte wins,
<v Speaker 4>if it gets the title off EO, to get Bailey
<v Speaker 4>versus EO. Even without the title, you can have a
<v Speaker 4>three way with those three and again, so I'm just
<v Speaker 4>a bit disappointed in how they have so far executed
<v Speaker 4>the run of EO Sky, which hasn't exactly been you know,
<v Speaker 4>one for the ages. But the real story is Bianca
<v Speaker 4>bell Air and you know, you do wonder when Jade
<v Speaker 4>Cargill and Bianca Butlair are going to come face to face. Now,
<v Speaker 4>if Jade does go to raw which many are speculating,
<v Speaker 4>and then that of course leaves them off separate brands
<v Speaker 4>and for a match down the line, but it's going
<v Speaker 4>to happen.
<v Speaker 2>I've said this since.
<v Speaker 4>She was still a part of AEW that I'd like
<v Speaker 4>to see it, and sure from just a visual standpoint,
<v Speaker 4>it would be fascinating. You have Bianca Belair, who we
<v Speaker 4>thought was jacked, and then you have you know, freak
<v Speaker 4>of nature and Jade Cargill come in and just even
<v Speaker 4>overpowered Bianca, which is going to be a site to
<v Speaker 4>behold when those two lock up. And the interesting question
<v Speaker 4>is not only if or when they will, of course
<v Speaker 4>they will. Who's the heel in babyface.
<v Speaker 2>In the Donors?
<v Speaker 4>You know that that's a another story for another day.
<v Speaker 4>I mean you could argue either depending on how things
<v Speaker 4>are going and when it happens. But fantasy booking is,
<v Speaker 4>of course, you know, a topic that all of us
<v Speaker 4>could dive deep into. But let's talk about reality. Let's
<v Speaker 4>talk about what happened this week and continuing with Logan Paul. Now,
<v Speaker 4>Logan Paul has been absent for a while. He had
<v Speaker 4>a boxing match, well last week six days ago was
<v Speaker 4>seven days ago as I record this, and he was victorious.
<v Speaker 4>He's a hell of an athlete. He just exudes confidence, ego,
<v Speaker 4>everything that you'd want to heal to have he just has.
<v Speaker 4>He feels like he's come into his own. He doesn't
<v Speaker 4>feel so out of his element like he has in
<v Speaker 4>the past. He kind of does exactly what he said
<v Speaker 4>he was this past week. He does truly feel like
<v Speaker 4>he knows who he is, and he says he's a
<v Speaker 4>WWE superstar. And you know, I can't argue with him.
<v Speaker 4>As much as the arguments against Logan Paul being there,
<v Speaker 4>he's jumped, you know, eight different people to get where
<v Speaker 4>he is, and that he doesn't deserve to be where
<v Speaker 4>he is. Well, I mean the crowd reaction was see otherwise,
<v Speaker 4>I'm not sitting here supporting Logan Paul. I'm supporting him
<v Speaker 4>as a heel because he fits the role perfectly, so
<v Speaker 4>that to me is enough for me to say, hey,
<v Speaker 4>you know, he does damn good in matches. He has
<v Speaker 4>no business being as good as he is at his
<v Speaker 4>level with six televised matches. It's absolutely insane, but good
<v Speaker 4>for him, and the US title could very well come
<v Speaker 4>home with him at Crown Jewel, with Raymisterio being challenged
<v Speaker 4>in Raymisterio officially accepting, I expect a very entertaining match,
<v Speaker 4>one that really could end with Logan Paul winning. There's
<v Speaker 4>a very high chance in fact that that could be
<v Speaker 4>the case. And when you think about it, if La
<v Speaker 4>Knight loses, and there's a very high chance of Elia
<v Speaker 4>Knight losing at Crown Jewel because I think they they
<v Speaker 4>pulled the trigger too soon. Unless this is just a preview,
<v Speaker 4>what's to come at WrestleMania forty given there's no Rock
<v Speaker 4>and it's Roman and La Knight at WrestleMania forty potentially
<v Speaker 4>where you can have Ela Knight get screwed. He has
<v Speaker 4>to scratch his way back up the whole fun story
<v Speaker 4>and I'm not mocking it. It would be fun and having
<v Speaker 4>him win the Rumble and then that's where he's forced
<v Speaker 4>to face Llaen Knight again and La Knight climbs the
<v Speaker 4>mountain at WrestleMania forty, which is a more likely scenario
<v Speaker 4>than doing this now. If this is a one off
<v Speaker 4>for WWE, by the way, and I know I'm not
<v Speaker 4>going off, I'm trying not to do a tangent here,
<v Speaker 4>but if they don't give La Night another chance after
<v Speaker 4>this very very high likelihood of him losing at Crown Jewel,
<v Speaker 4>then that's a travesty because they have something very special
<v Speaker 4>with La Knight here, and you know, if this to
<v Speaker 4>them as well, we'll get this out of the way
<v Speaker 4>and get the van tappy and then we'll move on
<v Speaker 4>to somebody else like who we really want to win,
<v Speaker 4>like Cody Rhoads, then it would be to me a
<v Speaker 4>big misstep. I think there is more general support and
<v Speaker 4>unified support from all races and sexes right, both men
<v Speaker 4>and women. I think love La Knight right now, most
<v Speaker 4>demographics do. I don't really hear anybody not supporting La Knight.
<v Speaker 4>Has that very rare unified solid solidarity behind him among
<v Speaker 4>all demographics was very difficult to do, and I think
<v Speaker 4>there's more general support for him. So if they think
<v Speaker 4>Cody Rhodes is going to be a better candidate. Putting
<v Speaker 4>my feelings aside, I don't think Cody Rhoads has that
<v Speaker 4>unified support as much as La Knight does.
<v Speaker 2>So that's just my take.
<v Speaker 4>But all right, Well back to La and I, or
<v Speaker 4>rather back to Raybisterio and Logan Paul. I thought it
<v Speaker 4>was a solid segment. Again, Logan Paul is very comfortable
<v Speaker 4>in the microphone, and you know he already said he
<v Speaker 4>beat raymis Stereo, but he's now chasing the US title,
<v Speaker 4>which he actually announced after his boxing match last week
<v Speaker 4>after he was victorious, and boy can he fight. I'll
<v Speaker 4>tell you I wouldn't want to get in and fight
<v Speaker 4>with Logan Paul. I mean, the dude. Say what you
<v Speaker 4>want about him, egomaniac, whatever, he is, a athletic, just juggernaut.
<v Speaker 4>He has the perfect kind of fighting body, long reach,
<v Speaker 4>high cardio, smart, quick reflex. I mean, the dude has it.
<v Speaker 4>Unless I hit him from behind with a steel chair,
<v Speaker 4>that's probably my only shot, and then you know, after that,
<v Speaker 4>maybe use a taser. I mean, just the fact that
<v Speaker 4>he is in WWE is actually an asset. And I've
<v Speaker 4>said and I've never been a Logan fan on a
<v Speaker 4>personal level. But I can be objective and still see
<v Speaker 4>reality and say that this guy's got it, And I
<v Speaker 4>hope at some point Logan Paul adopts the more consistent schedule,
<v Speaker 4>not every week, just as we didn't see Roman reigns
<v Speaker 4>this week, and I'm actually okay with that. You know,
<v Speaker 4>when he returned, I said, Okay, you know, I don't
<v Speaker 4>expect him to be here next week. He doesn't need
<v Speaker 4>to be here everyone every week. But what I do
<v Speaker 4>need him here to be for is every single pl
<v Speaker 4>from now thro WrestleMania. So that's my expectation of Roman.
<v Speaker 4>But for Logan Paul, I think Logan Paul is at
<v Speaker 4>a point where he also doesn't need to be there
<v Speaker 4>every single week. But I also if he's going to
<v Speaker 4>take this a little bit more full time be there
<v Speaker 4>pl as well. And he did say he knows who
<v Speaker 4>he is, so maybe that and he said he was
<v Speaker 4>a WW superstar, so maybe maybe that was his clue
<v Speaker 4>into saying, Hey, I'm going to be here around here
<v Speaker 4>a little bit more than I normally have. You know,
<v Speaker 4>I know he's got a million projects going on, He's
<v Speaker 4>got his bad drink for you, by the way, load
<v Speaker 4>of a sugar caffeine. I mean, so the Prime Energy drink.
<v Speaker 4>It's not the worst thing of the world, but I'll
<v Speaker 4>tell you it's not exactly a health nuts dream when
<v Speaker 4>you look at the Prime drink, So take a look
<v Speaker 4>at that if you care about such things. But nonetheless,
<v Speaker 4>the guy is a multi millionaire, one of the biggest
<v Speaker 4>social media stars in the world right now, and is
<v Speaker 4>on top of it, ultra athletic and also a no
<v Speaker 4>just unbelievably talented in the ring for how few times
<v Speaker 4>he's been in the so you know, I'm expecting big
<v Speaker 4>things from him, and I expect him, actually early take
<v Speaker 4>to take the US title. As I said, I expect
<v Speaker 4>him to win the US title because raybis Stereo, as
<v Speaker 4>great as he is and as much of a legend
<v Speaker 4>as he is, doesn't need the title right now. The
<v Speaker 4>l WO is a fun little game that they're playing
<v Speaker 4>right now. And I'm sorry, like I like the l WO,
<v Speaker 4>but I don't take them seriously as a faction that
<v Speaker 4>they're ever going to be in the main event of
<v Speaker 4>anything or and you know, they're just the face off
<v Speaker 4>against the Bloodline in any serious context. I just I
<v Speaker 4>don't see that they're They're a fun group and I'm
<v Speaker 4>not making fun of them. I just don't take them
<v Speaker 4>too seriously at this point.
<v Speaker 2>Uh.
<v Speaker 4>And you know Selena Vega with her shoe. I I
<v Speaker 4>have to say, Selena, nobody's reacting to this outside of
<v Speaker 4>Puerto Rico. Nobody we like, we we get it, Okay,
<v Speaker 4>it's a it's a customary in your uh, in your
<v Speaker 4>family or in your in your lineage. Fine, in your country,
<v Speaker 4>that's what you do. But no one cares here. I
<v Speaker 4>know you're trying to add a little wrinkle. And I
<v Speaker 4>really do enjoy Zelnevega on a lot of levels. I
<v Speaker 4>still believe she has a women's title run in her future.
<v Speaker 4>I do believe that. But just for me as a fan,
<v Speaker 4>this is my own opinion. The shoe thing is silly.
<v Speaker 4>It doesn't feel like it's catching on in the United
<v Speaker 4>States or anywhere outside of your home country. It's just
<v Speaker 4>sorry it doesn't. But other than that, I mean, you
<v Speaker 4>got Cruz del Toro, who's kind of the you know,
<v Speaker 4>the house plan of the group, doesn't really do much.
<v Speaker 4>And Santos Ascabar, who is the leader of the group
<v Speaker 4>and has consistently putting on really good matchup to a
<v Speaker 4>really good matchups really good match And then you have
<v Speaker 4>Carlito who has recently joined, and I think he's outside
<v Speaker 4>of them, changing his music, which I don't like, and
<v Speaker 4>I guess Carlo didn't either. Yeah, he adds a nice
<v Speaker 4>element to that group too. It does feel like it's
<v Speaker 4>getting a little bit too big. It feels like the
<v Speaker 4>group is expanding to a point where it's starting to
<v Speaker 4>get watered down a bit. So I would say this
<v Speaker 4>is the cap.
<v Speaker 2>Stop.
<v Speaker 4>Don't add anyone else, please stop. But Carlito being added
<v Speaker 4>and being back for I would imagine a short but
<v Speaker 4>consistent run is fun and it's nostalgic. And he does
<v Speaker 4>look great, and he does so far look like he
<v Speaker 4>can go in the ring to the level that he
<v Speaker 4>used to and that's good and in some ways I
<v Speaker 4>think he looks better than he did fifteen years ago.
<v Speaker 4>So I have no issue with this group right now,
<v Speaker 4>other than the fact, as I said, I don't see
<v Speaker 4>them in any serious, long term main event story. They'll
<v Speaker 4>be in the mid the upper mid card, and I
<v Speaker 4>think that's kind of where they've been capped with the
<v Speaker 4>US title picture, and that's cool pun intended, but I
<v Speaker 4>just right now I don't see that that's in the
<v Speaker 4>cards for them. I could be wrong, but they are
<v Speaker 4>still building stars, and that's the point of the group.
<v Speaker 4>You're building Santos Escobar into a star. Would he have
<v Speaker 4>been a bigger star if they stuck around with Logatto
<v Speaker 4>del Fantasma maybe? I actually they didn't give that a
<v Speaker 4>chance to breathe. I really enjoyed what they had going
<v Speaker 4>on there, kind of this evil mafia, like you know,
<v Speaker 4>ethnocentric group. I would have been all about that, and
<v Speaker 4>they just didn't have a chance to breathe. And they
<v Speaker 4>just suddenly morphed into the LWO because they were going
<v Speaker 4>to Puerto Rico for a plee and then it caught
<v Speaker 4>on and then they kept it and then carleiotle joins
<v Speaker 4>and but here we go.
<v Speaker 5>You know.
<v Speaker 4>So it hasn't met a flop by any means. The
<v Speaker 4>LWO is getting very solid reactions because of star power.
<v Speaker 4>Enzelina Vega is a nice touch. So but my point
<v Speaker 4>of all this, after I went on forty tangents, it's
<v Speaker 4>bad habit, guys, I really apologize my point with all
<v Speaker 4>this with talking about La night Is after his predictable
<v Speaker 4>loss to l to Roman reigns at Crown Jewel. You
<v Speaker 4>have a heel US champion in Logan Paul for him
<v Speaker 4>to chase. That could lead into you know, Survivors series.
<v Speaker 4>It could lead then into maybe a December televise show
<v Speaker 4>as there's no pl right now, so they'll have they'll
<v Speaker 4>have a pl type of televised show that'll it'll feel
<v Speaker 4>big as they've done really throughout the year. And so
<v Speaker 4>they could still have title match, a title US title
<v Speaker 4>match with Alien Knight versus Logan Paul, and maybe La
<v Speaker 4>Knight wins there, you know, like that's possible if they
<v Speaker 4>don't have any vision or purpose for La Knight beyond
<v Speaker 4>this one big flash in the pan. Let's see how
<v Speaker 4>it goes. He's gonna lose, but and then they kick
<v Speaker 4>him back to the upper mid card and then let
<v Speaker 4>him sit there for a while.
<v Speaker 2>But speaking of.
<v Speaker 4>La Knight, he interrupted Paul Hayman, and that was first
<v Speaker 4>of all, there's a massive reaction, maybe one of the
<v Speaker 4>top pops of the night, if not the top of
<v Speaker 4>the night. Good sign for Alien Knight as this doesn't
<v Speaker 4>seem to be a fad that Ella Knight continues to
<v Speaker 4>build momentum and L and I told Hayman to take
<v Speaker 4>a walk as far as he was concerned, and then
<v Speaker 4>he wanted Roman Reins out there right now, which I mean,
<v Speaker 4>if you've been following Roman's career over the last even
<v Speaker 4>just one year, you know you knew he wasn't there.
<v Speaker 4>But then he brings Paul Hayman back into the ring,
<v Speaker 4>and he told Hayman that if he stepped one foot
<v Speaker 4>out of the ring, he'd knock his hair back to gray.
<v Speaker 4>And he told I followed up and told Hayman that
<v Speaker 4>he took issue with him calling it the spear last
<v Speaker 4>week a warning shot because he's he's like Michael Myers,
<v Speaker 4>will come back over and over again. And Knight told
<v Speaker 4>Ham stop and won't stop until he takes the undisputed
<v Speaker 4>WWE title from Rains, and then he would take it
<v Speaker 4>from him as quick as he rose up the ranks
<v Speaker 4>on SmackDown. He then told Hayman there would be a
<v Speaker 4>contract signing next week and when he called Rains, he'd
<v Speaker 4>better be one hundred percent clear about whose game it is,
<v Speaker 4>and then he gave the microphone back to to Paul Hayman.
<v Speaker 4>So this continues to be a blessed seeing a curse
<v Speaker 4>for Night, And what I mean by that is, overall,
<v Speaker 4>I thought the segment was effective. I thought it did
<v Speaker 4>what it set out to do, and that was to
<v Speaker 4>get La Knight in the main event. Don't give too
<v Speaker 4>much of La Knight. Don't give And that's actually one
<v Speaker 4>thing I'll give them credit for. They haven't overexposed Night
<v Speaker 4>in the way that so many stars in the past
<v Speaker 4>on the Rise have suffered of from the WWE machine
<v Speaker 4>where they decided to w ohh something's catching on. Let's
<v Speaker 4>give them all of it, and then some and then it,
<v Speaker 4>you know, wears out.
<v Speaker 2>It's welcome.
<v Speaker 4>And they haven't done that with Night. They've been careful
<v Speaker 4>about how often they've put them out there, and that's smart.
<v Speaker 4>But where I would continue to say, areas for improvement
<v Speaker 4>are needed. This isn't going to be a shock if
<v Speaker 4>you guys listened to me before. La Knight's promos are good,
<v Speaker 4>but they're not great, and they need to be great
<v Speaker 4>right now. If anyone out there is trying to make
<v Speaker 4>a case to management to main event and actually have
<v Speaker 4>him win the belt and be the one to take
<v Speaker 4>the belt off of Roman, they can't just be good anymore.
<v Speaker 4>Good is uh, you know, good good is the bare minimum.
<v Speaker 4>Good is the recipe for staying where you are, not descending,
<v Speaker 4>not ascending, but just kind of staying where you are.
<v Speaker 4>You need to have that standout promo, not every Now,
<v Speaker 4>let me be clear, every promo he has from here
<v Speaker 4>and now doesn't need to be blockbuster, doesn't need to
<v Speaker 4>be in documentaries or studied or whatever and you know,
<v Speaker 4>shown in promo class. But he needs to have one
<v Speaker 4>of those mixed in with some just good or okay ones.
<v Speaker 4>And how he does that is, you know, get away
<v Speaker 4>from the silly quip lines about you calling people names
<v Speaker 4>and punching the gray hair at it back into his
<v Speaker 4>head or like those are funny.
<v Speaker 2>I get it.
<v Speaker 4>Those can be blended into whatever you're talking about, but
<v Speaker 4>they can't be the whole substance of you, of your promo.
<v Speaker 2>Do you know what I mean?
<v Speaker 4>You know, they're great spices to add to the promo.
<v Speaker 4>They're funny. You know it shows your self aware. You
<v Speaker 4>know you know what's going on, that you have some
<v Speaker 4>emotional intelligence, but it doesn't like it doesn't show me
<v Speaker 4>who and what you are outside of just like funny
<v Speaker 4>cute lines. I need more substance. I need more real
<v Speaker 4>talk from l A.
<v Speaker 2>Knight.
<v Speaker 4>I don't need him going into like promo mode, if
<v Speaker 4>does that make sense to you? Guys like he just
<v Speaker 4>goes right into like he's cutting a promo instead of
<v Speaker 4>and cutting cute lines that he thought of in the back,
<v Speaker 4>which are good. That's the thing that they're well delivered.
<v Speaker 4>But if you're going to be going from good to great,
<v Speaker 4>a case that management cannot deny, you need to have
<v Speaker 4>that substance, that it factor that grabs the fans emotions,
<v Speaker 4>not just plays sing along and plays you know a
<v Speaker 4>part in your promo of the yeas, but you're able
<v Speaker 4>to grab the heart and soul of the fans with
<v Speaker 4>your story, with who you are. You know, that's the
<v Speaker 4>kind of thing he needs. And that's what's been missing,
<v Speaker 4>I think from taking him from good to great. So
<v Speaker 4>that's how I think he can improve now to the
<v Speaker 4>yeah chance. Maybe they've taken the place of the what chance?
<v Speaker 2>Is it possible?
<v Speaker 4>Or did I just curse the whole thing? Have the
<v Speaker 4>what chance? Been replaced by yeah?
<v Speaker 6>Like?
<v Speaker 4>And I could be totally wrong because I'm so numb
<v Speaker 4>to the what chance at this point, but can anybody
<v Speaker 4>tell me the last time? What chance? Totally took over
<v Speaker 4>everything since the Yeah movement started. Maybe the Yeah movement
<v Speaker 4>is its replacement. I know that Yeah isn't something you
<v Speaker 4>can just add in to anybody's promo, like the what thing,
<v Speaker 4>because you have to say LA night first. But I
<v Speaker 4>don't know ever, maybe that's in my mind. So all right,
<v Speaker 4>where do we want to go next? There's a couple places.
<v Speaker 4>Montes Ford beating Santos Escobar already talked about Santos, but
<v Speaker 4>good match eight minutes, thirty seconds and it ended with
<v Speaker 4>Escobar getting rolled up by forward with the tights being grabbed.
<v Speaker 4>So montes Ford playing the heel role in a bit
<v Speaker 4>of a bit of a different outfit, but same music.
<v Speaker 4>I would change the music if they want to really
<v Speaker 4>sell the whole heel thing. But a solid match down
<v Speaker 4>the list from two superior athletes and the pull of
<v Speaker 4>the tights is, you know, a nice touch to solidify
<v Speaker 4>what role that's Ford is in, which I have no
<v Speaker 4>problem with the street profits going. Hell, we've been talking
<v Speaker 4>about this for over a year year and a half.
<v Speaker 4>Many of us is like, can we just do something
<v Speaker 4>with them more than that? Maybe even two years? So
<v Speaker 4>we got it all right? So then we got pretty
<v Speaker 4>deadly at a spot for a pedicure and the brawling
<v Speaker 4>brutes were there and they put their faces in the
<v Speaker 4>pedicure water, which is gross.
<v Speaker 2>To think about.
<v Speaker 4>But John Cena came out in other news. So John
<v Speaker 4>Cena came out and he was fired up about San
<v Speaker 4>Antonio and talked about, you know, basically pandering to the
<v Speaker 4>crowd as he does, and I thank you Sina chant
<v Speaker 4>took place, and then he thanked them and said he
<v Speaker 4>got hit with pretty harsh truce today and he mentioned
<v Speaker 4>speaking about Roman Reigns impressive streak as w W champion,
<v Speaker 4>and then brought up a streak of his own, and
<v Speaker 4>Sina said it had been two thousand and two days
<v Speaker 4>since he won a televised singles match, and he said
<v Speaker 4>it was his last win. It was in twenty eighteen,
<v Speaker 4>and the crowd cheered, and Sina pushed on and said
<v Speaker 4>he had to face reality that he had been talking
<v Speaker 4>about retirement and said he had a face, it's been
<v Speaker 4>a long time since he's gotten a win, and the
<v Speaker 4>crowd chanted that he still had it, and he said
<v Speaker 4>he still believed in himself elf that he could go
<v Speaker 4>and thought he could bring it and said it would
<v Speaker 4>be a bad night for the next person that walks
<v Speaker 4>down to the ring, and that ended up being solo Socoa. Okay,
<v Speaker 4>So johnson A teasing retirement is nothing that any of
<v Speaker 4>us didn't expect at some point. I mean, we all
<v Speaker 4>know it's gonna happen one way or another. And Johnsena
<v Speaker 4>also is right now only scheduled to be through the
<v Speaker 4>SmackDown next week, and then he is not scheduled to
<v Speaker 4>be on WTV after that, maybe until WrestleMania Season Rumble.
<v Speaker 4>Maybe he's a surprise Rumble entrying or something, so that
<v Speaker 4>next week could be the final week that we see
<v Speaker 4>seen it on TV for a little while now, at
<v Speaker 4>least on SmackDown.
<v Speaker 2>So I take issue with this.
<v Speaker 4>So I tweeted this out earlier, and because I had
<v Speaker 4>a bit, I have a bit of an issue with
<v Speaker 4>the numbers he's putting out there, not that they're wrong,
<v Speaker 4>but that they are misleading. So you can lie with numbers.
<v Speaker 4>What I mean by that is mister hustle, loyalty and
<v Speaker 4>respects that he had been in. He hasn't won a
<v Speaker 4>singles match, a televised singles match, that's the qualifier. In
<v Speaker 4>two thousand and two, days. Now, I'll take him at
<v Speaker 4>a face value. Sure, that's probably true. And he said
<v Speaker 4>his last one was in twenty eighteen. Let me ask
<v Speaker 4>you something between twenty eighteen and now those two thousand
<v Speaker 4>and two days that he is referencing a couple questions
<v Speaker 4>that are pretty relevant to the subset of purpose of
<v Speaker 4>these numbers. Number one, how many televised matches did you
<v Speaker 4>have exactly singles matches between twenty eighteen and now in
<v Speaker 4>those two thousand and two days, And by the way,
<v Speaker 4>how many shows did you even come to? And even
<v Speaker 4>if you did, did you compete in any of them?
<v Speaker 7>Right?
<v Speaker 4>Those are pretty important questions. I would venture to guess,
<v Speaker 4>just ballparking it that in those two thousand and two days,
<v Speaker 4>how many singles match he's had you could probably count
<v Speaker 4>on one hand. So it's not like he's been full
<v Speaker 4>time since twenty eighteen. If that was the case, so sure,
<v Speaker 4>that would be a horrendous streak. But he even part time,
<v Speaker 4>that would be a horrendous streak. But let's really look
<v Speaker 4>at it. How many matches singles matches has John Cena
<v Speaker 4>had in those two thousand and two days. Well, I've
<v Speaker 4>got numbers for you, folks. You ready for these? Oh,
<v Speaker 4>I'm ready. So this according to cagematch dot net.
<v Speaker 2>Okay, you can go to other sources.
<v Speaker 4>Cage match is a pretty pretty relevant and reliable source
<v Speaker 4>for numbers. So this is just so you know what
<v Speaker 4>I searched for for those of you that wanted to
<v Speaker 4>fact check me, which is fine. I did only broadcasted
<v Speaker 4>shows and only singles matches by year. All right, So
<v Speaker 4>let's go back to twenty eighteen. Now, according to this,
<v Speaker 4>he had seven matches, six wins in singles matches that
<v Speaker 4>I'm gonna chalk up to saying that, well, he said
<v Speaker 4>he only had one loss, but I'm gonna go with
<v Speaker 4>he those came early in the year, and he's citing
<v Speaker 4>stats that came after that. Okay, So let's just take
<v Speaker 4>him at face. He had zero matches in twenty nineteen,
<v Speaker 4>he had one match in twenty twenty, one match in
<v Speaker 4>twenty twenty one, zero matches in twenty twenty two, and
<v Speaker 4>one match in twenty twenty three. So let's just pretend
<v Speaker 4>twenty eighteen doesn't exist for the simple fact that those
<v Speaker 4>numbers of he actually won six singles matches in twenty
<v Speaker 4>eighteen don't exist because they probably came early in the year.
<v Speaker 4>Take that out of it. Twenty nineteen he had nothing,
<v Speaker 4>twenty twenty he had won, twenty twenty one he had one.
<v Speaker 4>He's really since about that time that he's referencing all
<v Speaker 4>in three. Let that sink in. That's a pretty important detail.
<v Speaker 4>And I know many of you are sitting there going, oh,
<v Speaker 4>do you have to break this down? No, it's important
<v Speaker 4>because this is This is to me, is like lying
<v Speaker 4>with numbers. I gave you a detail that has now
<v Speaker 4>shifted your view of Oh my god, you're right he
<v Speaker 4>hasn't he hasn't won since twenty eighteen. Well, blah blah, blah,
<v Speaker 4>my god, Well this is ridiculous. So he should consider
<v Speaker 4>retirement given he's gone owen three and four years. Oh
<v Speaker 4>my god, no, he's yeah.
<v Speaker 2>See that.
<v Speaker 4>To me, is is the biggest question I had. And
<v Speaker 4>here are the stats, guys, hard numbers. Go look at
<v Speaker 4>them yourself. Uh, he's Owen three retiring off of oh
<v Speaker 4>in three and maybe he has early onset Alzheimer's where
<v Speaker 4>he doesn't remember how many matches he had and he
<v Speaker 4>thinks he's had like, you know, two hundred and forty matches,
<v Speaker 4>of which he's Owen two hundred and forty. Outside of
<v Speaker 4>that or selective memory, he's really oho and three go
<v Speaker 4>look for yourself. Of which two of those years he
<v Speaker 4>didn't even have a match singles match. I know he
<v Speaker 4>had a tag team, no, no, no singles. So if you're wondering,
<v Speaker 4>by the way, as I was about broadcasted TV singles
<v Speaker 4>matches in his entire career, his overall record is seventy percent.
<v Speaker 4>He's had one hundred and ten losses, three hundred and
<v Speaker 4>six wins, and twenty one draws. So that seventy percent wins,
<v Speaker 4>twenty five percent losses, and about five percent draws or
<v Speaker 4>broadways or no dy or you know, whatever they want
<v Speaker 4>you whatever you want to label that. As He's had
<v Speaker 4>four hundred and thirty seven total singles televised matches in
<v Speaker 4>his career singles. So there you go, guys. That should
<v Speaker 4>kind of shift your thinking about his whole narrative. I
<v Speaker 4>know I spent fifteen minutes on this, but it was
<v Speaker 4>well deserved because it's easily debunked by anybody, or rather
<v Speaker 4>not debunked, but more context, very important context added. All right,
<v Speaker 4>let's move So Solo Soka came out and they started brawling,
<v Speaker 4>and then Jimmy Uso snuck out a snuck up and
<v Speaker 4>landed a superkick, which.
<v Speaker 2>Looked awful by the way.
<v Speaker 4>I mean, it's just it's like if I got in
<v Speaker 4>there and hit a superkick, it happens, right, It's fine,
<v Speaker 4>we know what the purpose of it was.
<v Speaker 2>Fine.
<v Speaker 4>Then we got Jay Uso who dressed up with a
<v Speaker 4>mask and hood on and leveled Jimmy Uso with that
<v Speaker 4>and they brawled, and that's when Sina avoided the Samoan
<v Speaker 4>spike and hit the AA on solo. So that was fun.
<v Speaker 4>I really enjoyed that. I think that, you know, even
<v Speaker 4>though I'm not looking forward to Jimmy versus Jay, if
<v Speaker 4>they want to go to it, let's go to it
<v Speaker 4>and get it over with. To me, fine, I'm invested,
<v Speaker 4>but barely to me because I don't really want to
<v Speaker 4>see them fight number one and number two, I'm just
<v Speaker 4>tired of intra family bloodline stuff. But fine, if we're
<v Speaker 4>gonna get to it and get through it.
<v Speaker 6>Cool.
<v Speaker 4>But this was fun and also the most important part
<v Speaker 4>and best part about this whole thing. John Cena looks strong,
<v Speaker 4>which doesn't hasn't happened in a long time. Where he
<v Speaker 4>gets the last laugh, or he's the one victorious, or
<v Speaker 4>he's the one standing tall. It really is true. He
<v Speaker 4>hasn't done a whole lot in this part of his career.
<v Speaker 4>But the argument is nor should he. He's in the
<v Speaker 4>give back portion that is optional that I really commend
<v Speaker 4>him for doing. It's he's in the help building the
<v Speaker 4>next generation of stars and getting over new talent. Hey,
<v Speaker 4>I give him all the credit in the world for
<v Speaker 4>doing something he doesn't have to do right now.
<v Speaker 2>So there is that.
<v Speaker 4>But the best part of all of this was not
<v Speaker 4>Solo getting an AA, which was actually enjoyable, but that
<v Speaker 4>security actually took j Uso out and then we had
<v Speaker 4>the SmackDown general manager come in and find Jay Uso
<v Speaker 4>ten thousand dollars. Adam Pierce shows up and he says, well,
<v Speaker 4>if you're gonna find Jay, you might as well find Jimmy,
<v Speaker 4>and which made no sense because why why wouldn't Why
<v Speaker 4>wouldn't If Nick Aldis can find a guy that's not
<v Speaker 4>on his roster, why couldn't Adam Pierce also find Jimmy Whatever,
<v Speaker 4>But that was a great part to respect the brand
<v Speaker 4>rules and maybe something that triple h now that he's
<v Speaker 4>fully in control. Apparently we'll just go with that. That
<v Speaker 4>he's fully in control has brought back the respect for
<v Speaker 4>their own brand rules and having security chase out people
<v Speaker 4>that shouldn't be there. That's great. And the one thing
<v Speaker 4>that that got me concerned was when Adam Pierce said
<v Speaker 4>these words let the games begin to Nick Aldis and
<v Speaker 4>what are we read around Survivors series and what happened
<v Speaker 4>last year war Games? So the play on words of
<v Speaker 4>let the games begin could very well be pointing to
<v Speaker 4>War Games and even worse, brand supremacy, the manufactured brand rivalry.
<v Speaker 2>OI oive right.
<v Speaker 4>I have zero interest in brand loyalty. Nobody in WWE.
<v Speaker 4>If you're a fan, you don't have brand loyalty. I'm
<v Speaker 4>sorry you don't. You don't have brand loyalty too different.
<v Speaker 4>I'm talking about within the same brand. You don't have
<v Speaker 4>sub brand loyalty. You just don't. It does not exist
<v Speaker 4>in WWE. If you're a WW fan, you're not sitting
<v Speaker 4>there going, I don't watch this, this inferior smackdowns. I
<v Speaker 4>don't watch RAW, I only watch Smackdowner. I'm blue through
<v Speaker 4>and through. I bleed read. Nobody's not find me a
<v Speaker 4>fan that would not go if they had free tickets,
<v Speaker 4>even to their quote opposing show. If they had the opportunity,
<v Speaker 4>of course they would. You have you do not have
<v Speaker 4>Brandon loyalty sub brand loyalty. So we're all supposed to
<v Speaker 4>just play pretend that this brand supremacy means anything to
<v Speaker 4>anyone outside of the general managers. That's essentially all it means.
<v Speaker 4>It for it means anyone thing, too, is the GMS.
<v Speaker 4>So I really hope that's not what this is leading to,
<v Speaker 4>but I'm kind of leaning towards unfortunately. Yes, hooy, all right,
<v Speaker 4>we got elid On at Alba fire. They are in
<v Speaker 4>some demonic trance at this point, putting spells on everyone
<v Speaker 4>in the in the woods. I don't know if they
<v Speaker 4>are at this point in the in the the calendar year.
<v Speaker 4>They're heading towards all hollows eve maybe there are. They're
<v Speaker 4>casting spells with the Sanderson sisters in Salem. I don't know, Uh,
<v Speaker 4>that's that could be what they're doing. And and by
<v Speaker 4>the way, if you've got that reference, we're friends because
<v Speaker 4>that means you grew up in the right era. By
<v Speaker 4>the way, there is a correct error to grow up
<v Speaker 4>in you know so which ever, by the way, everybody
<v Speaker 4>thinks the generations that they grew up in are like
<v Speaker 4>the best. Everyone usually thinks like the music they grew
<v Speaker 4>up with is the best, and it's all because it's nostalgic.
<v Speaker 4>For the most part, you'll find out liars, but generally
<v Speaker 4>everyone thinks, oh man, the music isn't what it used
<v Speaker 4>to be. I like, you know, my generation right now
<v Speaker 4>is listening to nineties music in early two thousands, and
<v Speaker 4>we all think it's the best. But this generation will
<v Speaker 4>look back in fifteen twenty years and go, oh, remember
<v Speaker 4>the twenty twenties that was such great music. It's way
<v Speaker 4>coach all right, and spells on every tag team in
<v Speaker 4>the division. So I guess it's that time of year, okay.
<v Speaker 4>Cameron Grimes and Dragon Lee versus Austin Theory and Grayson Waller.
<v Speaker 4>Grayson Waller and Austin Theory took out Dragonly and Cameron
<v Speaker 4>Grimes in six minutes. They needed as victory. Waller hit
<v Speaker 4>a rolling stunner and then Theory hit a town down on?
<v Speaker 2>Was it Lee?
<v Speaker 4>And you know, I'm sorry Grimes and got the victory
<v Speaker 4>and that was needed and I'm sorry it was Lee
<v Speaker 4>dragon Ly. Dragonly losing is a big problem for me
<v Speaker 4>because he had a great match a couple of weeks ago.
<v Speaker 4>He just got introduced. Give him time to get some victories.
<v Speaker 4>At the same time, Theory and Waller also need victories badly,
<v Speaker 4>So yeah, I actually see both sides the tag team
<v Speaker 4>division as a whole. Tho always needs help always. Kevin
<v Speaker 4>Owens was interviewed by Kathy Kelly. He spoke about his
<v Speaker 4>disappointment of getting separated from Sammy and they never got
<v Speaker 4>a proper rematch for the tag titles, and Kevin called
<v Speaker 4>out never having a match with Raymisterio or Seamus and
<v Speaker 4>said there were a lot of new faces for him
<v Speaker 4>to punch, and that was pretty much it. So saying
<v Speaker 4>he's sad but gets to work with new guys, that's
<v Speaker 4>kind of it. On a side note, though, by the way,
<v Speaker 4>I'm glad that WWE has seemingly maybe landed on one
<v Speaker 4>singular belt for Roman. I didn't see Paul Caring two
<v Speaker 4>last week, and then we're just gonna call it the
<v Speaker 4>undisputed WWE Championship. I think that we might have landed
<v Speaker 4>on that, all right. I already talked about EO and
<v Speaker 4>Charlotte and the return of Bianca. So that set sums
<v Speaker 4>it up. Let me quickly run through Raw and then
<v Speaker 4>we'll get to the voicemails and stuff. So on Monday
<v Speaker 4>Net Raw if you forgot, we got a new tag
<v Speaker 4>team Champions. Oh yes we did, or I would do
<v Speaker 4>the Paul Bearer voice, but I can't. You guys know
<v Speaker 4>what I'm talking about. The oh yes, think about that,
<v Speaker 4>we do. And the Judgment Day. The Judgment Day now
<v Speaker 4>have the tag titles back in a shocking very short
<v Speaker 4>run of Jimmy, or rather Jay and Cody, So we're
<v Speaker 4>gonna see what Lee to that. I myself was very
<v Speaker 4>surprised that they dropped him so quickly. But we also
<v Speaker 4>got Bronson Reid versus Gunther, in which Bronson Reid had
<v Speaker 4>a great outing for at least this point of his
<v Speaker 4>career in a big match with Gunther, and Gunther retains
<v Speaker 4>as he should clean so that was nice to see.
<v Speaker 4>We had Schinsky versus Ricochet and probably the match of
<v Speaker 4>the night, really good match that was about fourteen minutes
<v Speaker 4>in a falls kind of anywhere. This was a lot
<v Speaker 4>of fun Shenskate, you know, even out of the title
<v Speaker 4>picture now was Seth continues to show what he can
<v Speaker 4>do in the ring, and I loved it. In Italian
<v Speaker 4>versus Piper Niven, piper Niven beating Italian in six minutes,
<v Speaker 4>and excuse me, we got Seth rollins and another show
<v Speaker 4>showdown with Drew face to face, and then we got
<v Speaker 4>let's see Ludwig Kaiser and Giovanni Vinci uh because he
<v Speaker 4>took on Johnny Gargano and Johnny Gargano ended up losing
<v Speaker 4>to Ludwig Kaiser in exact wntes. We got Women's World title,
<v Speaker 4>our Women's World Champion, Ria Ripley versus Shane in a
<v Speaker 4>non title match in which Ria Ripley won and or
<v Speaker 4>rather she fought Basler to a no contest, I'm sorry.
<v Speaker 4>In five minutes. We also got let's see a lot
<v Speaker 4>of backstage interview stuff, but the Gunther Bronson Reid, as
<v Speaker 4>I said, happened already, and then the tag team title match,
<v Speaker 4>so I know I'm breezing overall, a lot more happened
<v Speaker 4>on Raw with backstage segments and all that Eldo shenanigans
<v Speaker 4>that go with it. But I will say that we're
<v Speaker 4>about to get into those emails, guys, so let's dive
<v Speaker 4>into the emails that we missed from the mail bag
<v Speaker 4>last week and then the voicemails and will wrap up
<v Speaker 4>the show. So let's see who's up first. All right,
<v Speaker 4>this is Jayden. This is au part two to the
<v Speaker 4>image that was sent. I remember that, so Jayden says, Hey, Matt,
<v Speaker 4>I sent an image last week with some stats comparing
<v Speaker 4>the championship reigns between Hogan and Rains and I included text,
<v Speaker 4>but it didn't send with the image.
<v Speaker 2>So here's what I wrote.
<v Speaker 4>Okay, cool, longtime listener, but first time writer, and sorry
<v Speaker 4>this may be a little long. I came across this
<v Speaker 4>graphic while scrolling through Facebook, and the difference in title
<v Speaker 4>defenses is just insane. Seventy nine to twenty nine, with
<v Speaker 4>a little less than a year's difference in total number
<v Speaker 4>of days between these two reigns, Hogan had fifty more
<v Speaker 4>title defenses. Almost half of Roman's title defenses came in
<v Speaker 4>twenty twenty one, where he had thirteen, which is just
<v Speaker 4>one year in out with the now over three year reign.
<v Speaker 4>And as a fan, that's not gonna gonna work for me.
<v Speaker 2>Brother.
<v Speaker 4>To put it in modern day perspective, creative typically tries
<v Speaker 4>to push out one pla a month, and with Hogan
<v Speaker 4>holding fifty more title defenses, it's over four years worth
<v Speaker 4>of missed opportunities in po level matches and storyline potential
<v Speaker 4>because of WWE's decision to make him a proper champion.
<v Speaker 4>I'm sure Roman also holds the title or control in
<v Speaker 4>his contract, so almost undoubtedly he's at least partially to
<v Speaker 4>blame as well. It's without a doubt that this title
<v Speaker 4>reign alone is going to be enough for ww to
<v Speaker 4>push him to the Hall of Fame, So I think
<v Speaker 4>he's going to be interesting to see how fans react
<v Speaker 4>when it comes to dos comes time to do so
<v Speaker 4>after facts like these continue to come out. If you
<v Speaker 4>take this proper or this paper championship away from him,
<v Speaker 4>apart from the Shield run, what does he really have
<v Speaker 4>to stand from him and the rest of the pack.
<v Speaker 4>Some universally hated Runs because he was skyrocketed to the
<v Speaker 4>top of the card despite WWE the Union fans making
<v Speaker 4>it blatantly obvious that we didn't want to cheer him.
<v Speaker 4>Of course, the Mania win against Taker was worth mentioning,
<v Speaker 4>but Brock being the one to break the streak and
<v Speaker 4>not Taker yeah, not retiring after a loss potentially strips
<v Speaker 4>the shock of that moment for me. Well, yeah, I
<v Speaker 4>mean you strip a shield, it's tough. He strip away
<v Speaker 4>the shield on this run. Yeah, I mean, there'd be
<v Speaker 4>a much tougher case to sell.
<v Speaker 2>As far as.
<v Speaker 4>Roman going to the Hall of Fame, it would be
<v Speaker 4>absolutely the Taker victory. I will say though that match
<v Speaker 4>was bad. I was there live for it in Orlando.
<v Speaker 4>Even Taker has admitted it was a bad match. He
<v Speaker 4>was embarrassed by it. It wasn't great, a lot of botches.
<v Speaker 4>Taker was out of shape, and he admitted it. So
<v Speaker 4>I'm not saying anything he didn't already say. And yeah,
<v Speaker 4>Take he didn't want to go out like that, which
<v Speaker 4>is why he returned. But I wouldn't really put that
<v Speaker 4>on his resume. But this title reign with Roman, I
<v Speaker 4>wouldn't call him a paper champion, but I would call
<v Speaker 4>him an inflated champion because the number of days have
<v Speaker 4>just been egregiously inflated because of his absences that are
<v Speaker 4>just insane at this point, Like that's not even funny,
<v Speaker 4>it's not even like it's just like it's it's frustrating
<v Speaker 4>as a fan. It's going to be even more frustrating
<v Speaker 4>if you're an actual talent on SmackDown. But yeah, so
<v Speaker 4>as far as oh you have more here So I
<v Speaker 4>heard Paul Haman say at a press conference that anyone
<v Speaker 4>who complains about the length of the Bloodline's storyline is
<v Speaker 4>just ignorant. But that couldn't be further from the truth.
<v Speaker 4>Part of a good story is knowing when it ended,
<v Speaker 4>and they've pushed past that. Personally, I think they should
<v Speaker 4>have ended the story with either Druid Clash at the
<v Speaker 4>Castle or Sammy at Chamber. So when do you think
<v Speaker 4>they should have ended the story and what do you
<v Speaker 4>think with the optimal choice for the belt being dropped
<v Speaker 4>in the future. Also, if they inevitably give the belt
<v Speaker 4>to the baby kisser Cody Rhodes after passing on the
<v Speaker 4>opportunity to drop it to Drew and Wales and Sammy
<v Speaker 4>and Montreal, I just may have have to drive to
<v Speaker 4>Connecticut to kick Vince and Triple H in the nuts myself. Well, Vince,
<v Speaker 4>you may not see, but yeah, ah, Triple A should
<v Speaker 4>be a little bit more of a cell or a
<v Speaker 4>tough guy to do that too. I wouldn't But all right,
<v Speaker 4>I don't agree with what Paul Hamon said there. I
<v Speaker 4>mean anyone, he said, anyone who complains about the length
<v Speaker 4>of the Bloodline stories is ignorant. Well, I'd love to
<v Speaker 4>have him elaborate on that. Just very general statement, very
<v Speaker 4>very kind of like broad statement. So, Paul, are you
<v Speaker 4>just gonna say, like this match or this storyline should
<v Speaker 4>just go on indefinitely. Why, Like, I don't care how
<v Speaker 4>good the story is, it naturally will come to an end,
<v Speaker 4>and the length is something that is a problem, yes,
<v Speaker 4>And I don't know if it's really the length of
<v Speaker 4>the Bloodline storyline itself versus the length of how long
<v Speaker 4>Roman Reigns has held the belt and how few times
<v Speaker 4>he's there, which is an or that to me is
<v Speaker 4>a much larger complaint then all the Bloodline still has
<v Speaker 4>a story going on, not that if the storyline's engaging,
<v Speaker 4>and it has it was for such a long time,
<v Speaker 4>and they did consistently did good writing. Fine, But when
<v Speaker 4>you caught, you know, you hold the title captive and hostage.
<v Speaker 4>That's the part that I take issue with. Yeah, But
<v Speaker 4>as far as when would I have ended it, I mean,
<v Speaker 4>I don't even think twice Sammy at Chamber, I don't regret.
<v Speaker 4>I still don't, all these months later, still believe that
<v Speaker 4>was the right time. It wasn't just in Montreal where
<v Speaker 4>he had support, Sammy z Ain had worldwide support. Short
<v Speaker 4>it was the hottest in Montreal for obvious reasons, but
<v Speaker 4>it would have been a magical place to do it,
<v Speaker 4>the perfect place to do it. The storyline was just
<v Speaker 4>absolutely pristine. The chemistry that Kevin Owens, or rather Sammy
<v Speaker 4>and Roman had on camera was perfect.
<v Speaker 2>You know, it was just all.
<v Speaker 4>It all lined up, It all lined up in a
<v Speaker 4>way that never ever happens. Well, I shouldn't say that,
<v Speaker 4>extremely rarely does something like that. Volunteer lap and they said, no,
<v Speaker 4>we've got a better idea.
<v Speaker 2>What exactly is that idea?
<v Speaker 4>Where is this magical idea that supersedes Sammy and Roman
<v Speaker 4>reigns in Montreal after coming off one of the hottest
<v Speaker 4>storylines in years? Where where's that storyline? I'm still looking
<v Speaker 4>out on the horizon. I can't see anything. Yeah, but
<v Speaker 4>I believe it, unfortunately will be Cody at this point.
<v Speaker 4>All right, let's continue, and thank you so much, Jayden,
<v Speaker 4>and let's get to Anthony and he says, good morning
<v Speaker 4>from California, wanted to drop a line about The Rock.
<v Speaker 4>I strongly believe he is not going to be at
<v Speaker 4>WrestleMania forty. That's why I refer to him showing up
<v Speaker 4>as an appearance and out of return. The Rock story
<v Speaker 4>about not being able to find a good ending in
<v Speaker 4>a beginning from him wrestling Roman.
<v Speaker 2>Was a weak excuse.
<v Speaker 4>He built that up to make it seem like they
<v Speaker 4>were so so close, and I don't believe that to
<v Speaker 4>be true. He said in his comments. He and the
<v Speaker 4>rest of the group in the discussion, we're talking about it,
<v Speaker 4>and the tequila came out and blah blah blah. To me,
<v Speaker 4>this is just a bunch of guys sitting around drinking
<v Speaker 4>and bsing with no real intention of follow through. Shame
<v Speaker 4>on the Rock for getting people's hopes up. Rellay Knight
<v Speaker 4>has mon me over. I was on the fence because
<v Speaker 4>of how much he mimicks the Attitude Era. I know,
<v Speaker 4>I know, I know, if it works, it works, But
<v Speaker 4>seeing Night go toe to toe with Roman on the
<v Speaker 4>promo and just seeing he's absolutely taking it all in
<v Speaker 4>and appreciating his assent has me saying l A Night, Yeah,
<v Speaker 4>keep up the good work. So I know, thinking about
<v Speaker 4>your listener in Israel, Sharon, looking forward to have your
<v Speaker 4>convo with him and hope his family is say if
<v Speaker 4>you have, thanks Anthony and Sharon. I will get back
<v Speaker 4>to shortly. I'm trying to come up with a time too.
<v Speaker 4>I know our time difference is seven hours, and we
<v Speaker 4>will we'll work it out because the time that you
<v Speaker 4>propose on Thursdays is the time that doesn't work.
<v Speaker 2>So we'll talk.
<v Speaker 4>I'll email you on the on the on the side
<v Speaker 4>and we'll figure out a time. But yeah, we're all
<v Speaker 4>thinking about you, Sharon.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's It's an insane time.
<v Speaker 4>To live, isn't it. It's absolutely crazy. So all right
<v Speaker 4>now the Rock. Let me just say this before we
<v Speaker 4>all get into tizzy and we all say, oh my god,
<v Speaker 4>now the reports are the opposite.
<v Speaker 2>The Rock's not going to be there.
<v Speaker 4>Let's wait till that happens, because let me just say
<v Speaker 4>that if it does happen, that the Rock is not
<v Speaker 4>going to be there and he is not doing WrestleMania
<v Speaker 4>forty this year. I've said this before and I will
<v Speaker 4>say it again. I'm I don't want to hear about
<v Speaker 4>it ever again. I have no interest in the Rock
<v Speaker 4>in Roman after this because and really, like you said,
<v Speaker 4>shame on everyone involved for if they purposefully tease this.
<v Speaker 4>I mean I don't. I don't think the fans really
<v Speaker 4>look at this and go, oh man, well, I hope
<v Speaker 4>the Rock faces Roman reigns are WrestleMania forty. But I
<v Speaker 4>only want to see it if the Rock does something different.
<v Speaker 2>I only want to see it.
<v Speaker 4>If the Rock doesn't just end something, he starts something.
<v Speaker 4>No fan nowhere anywhere is saying that it's only rock,
<v Speaker 4>and I just I that will be that actually may
<v Speaker 4>turn the Rock heel. I mean, like, for real, imagine
<v Speaker 4>this doesn't happen, right, Imagine this doesn't happen, which just
<v Speaker 4>seems like it's a strong chance, and then all of
<v Speaker 4>a sudden the Rock shows up like a month after WrestleMania.
<v Speaker 4>He might get booed and he should, like, Shame on
<v Speaker 4>everybody if this doesn't happen, everyone that has a hand
<v Speaker 4>in this, from Dwayne to Vince because he was involved
<v Speaker 4>with us before he left to Triple h to everyone
<v Speaker 4>that had a hand in this, Shame on all of you.
<v Speaker 4>If this doesn't happen. Of course, it's really mostly on
<v Speaker 4>the Rock because he's the one that gets to kind
<v Speaker 4>of pick choose, and he's at the point in his
<v Speaker 4>career he can just call the shots, so that would
<v Speaker 4>be awful. So all right, I know, all right, let's
<v Speaker 4>move on before I keep ranting. Alrighty, thank you Anthony,
<v Speaker 4>and this is from bad Fish. He says, Hey, ww
<v Speaker 4>podcast fam Badfish here, just watch SmackDown, and I think
<v Speaker 4>the build of Survivor series has begun. I have a
<v Speaker 4>couple of predictions, either Brand versus Brand do the interjection
<v Speaker 4>between Adam Pierce and all this, and the way they
<v Speaker 4>could go is Team Jimmy versus Team j which eventually
<v Speaker 4>leads to a match between the two.
<v Speaker 2>It could yes, it could happen. Absolutely.
<v Speaker 4>Last prediction is Sena faces the winner between Seth and
<v Speaker 4>Drew the night after Raw. Right after on Raw, wins
<v Speaker 4>the belt, gets the record, and then retires. What are
<v Speaker 4>your thoughts on these? Thanks to the dope content until
<v Speaker 4>next time, bad Fish out. Well, so your first do
<v Speaker 4>a prediction about Team Jimmy versus Team Team Jimmy versus
<v Speaker 4>Team Jay is much more likely than your second scenario
<v Speaker 4>for Seena facing the winner between Seth and Drew the
<v Speaker 4>night after on Raw, because who does that help like
<v Speaker 4>you're building a nice program with Seth and Drew right
<v Speaker 4>now to have Seena win it and go, okay, well
<v Speaker 4>I got what I needed. You guys, do what you
<v Speaker 4>want to now I'll vacate the title. That's who does
<v Speaker 4>that help? That hurts both Rollins and Drew because neither
<v Speaker 4>are now champion. It disrespects the championship because Seena gets
<v Speaker 4>something that we're told is the top prize on Raw
<v Speaker 4>and then goes, oh, well, I only wanted it for
<v Speaker 4>my selfish reasons of getting to the sixteenth championship and
<v Speaker 4>now peace out, guys. It doesn't look good for anybody,
<v Speaker 4>So I very much doubt I understand what you mean.
<v Speaker 4>I don't mind John Cena getting to that number. Charlotte
<v Speaker 4>Flair is also on the women's side of things, very
<v Speaker 4>close to I don't mind that, but I don't want
<v Speaker 4>it to be a joke of a run or a
<v Speaker 4>two week run or a one day run. I need
<v Speaker 4>it to be substantial, just to respect the championship and
<v Speaker 4>not have John Cena literally, I mean, that would be
<v Speaker 4>just viewed as selfish. It just would, all right, So
<v Speaker 4>thank you, buddy. Let me see if I have any
<v Speaker 4>more emails I might not. It might be just those
<v Speaker 4>few voicemails.
<v Speaker 7>Let's take a look, Hey, Matt and ww podcast the
<v Speaker 7>ball as well with everyone but Matt and Uh and Anthony.
<v Speaker 8>As a matter of fact, I'm gonna call you both
<v Speaker 8>out on something. You know, the gig is out you No,
<v Speaker 8>I'm gonna I'm gonna break this to Uh, to the audience.
<v Speaker 9>Uh.
<v Speaker 8>The real deal is, you know what we know that
<v Speaker 8>both you and Anthony are really tight friends with Cody Rhodes.
<v Speaker 3>Guys go out.
<v Speaker 8>Drinking together, you play pool together. You know, the the
<v Speaker 8>gig is up, my friends. I'm sorry, I'm gonna have
<v Speaker 8>to break it to all of your loyal fans, but
<v Speaker 8>you know, I just couldn't let it slide any longer.
<v Speaker 6>Uh Yeah, So.
<v Speaker 8>To get a little bit serious, I to find Cody
<v Speaker 8>Rose insufferable. I'm obviously that was a joke. But I
<v Speaker 8>have an answer or maybe suggestion to all of the
<v Speaker 8>WWE podcasts family on what someone called in last week
<v Speaker 8>about when Cody says, so what do you want to
<v Speaker 8>talk about? And how the fans can get in unison
<v Speaker 8>and actually give them an answer, and Matt, you said,
<v Speaker 8>obviously that's great to comrade, that, But how are you
<v Speaker 8>going to get fourteen thousand people to do that?
<v Speaker 3>But what through.
<v Speaker 8>Fourteen thousand people all say all at once? So what
<v Speaker 8>do you want to talk about?
<v Speaker 6>What?
<v Speaker 8>How awesome would that be if the whole crowd just
<v Speaker 8>what died Cody Rose? Now I agree with you, Matt
<v Speaker 8>when you say the what chance are just they've run
<v Speaker 8>their course way too far and I can't stand to
<v Speaker 8>hear when the crowd does it, because, like you say,
<v Speaker 8>they ticked things into their own hands and take over
<v Speaker 8>the show. But this is the one exception to the rule.
<v Speaker 8>What do you want to talk about? What? What would
<v Speaker 8>he do? What would he say? He would be dumbfounded,
<v Speaker 8>he would he would be lost? So you know that's
<v Speaker 8>that's that's my answer to it. But finally, one last.
<v Speaker 7>Thought, can you and Anthony use your your connections with
<v Speaker 7>Cody to so he can pull some strings and please
<v Speaker 7>get Pat McAfee and DJ kuzmo on the same announcement
<v Speaker 7>team on SmackDown.
<v Speaker 8>Can you imagine the the energy that the two of
<v Speaker 8>them would bring on a commentary team. DJ kuzmo and
<v Speaker 8>Pat McAfee on one team on SmackDown? That would be
<v Speaker 8>absolutely fantastic. The ratings would sky rocket. So that's all
<v Speaker 8>I got to say, Matt, Well, what have of here?
<v Speaker 8>What do you got to say about that? What do
<v Speaker 8>you want to talk about?
<v Speaker 2>All right?
<v Speaker 4>Well, hi, to listen back to your horsemoil, just to
<v Speaker 4>see if you left the name, and you didn't. So
<v Speaker 4>I don't know how to address you other than to say, uh,
<v Speaker 4>I thought that that was secrets.
<v Speaker 2>Okay, that that.
<v Speaker 4>I don't know where you heard that or who you
<v Speaker 4>heard that from, but I will find out that information
<v Speaker 4>about our personal relationship with Cody was supposed to remain private.
<v Speaker 4>That we actually, you know, we're buddies and actually I
<v Speaker 4>think I'm hanging out with him day. Well you are
<v Speaker 4>you already let the cat out of the bag. You know,
<v Speaker 4>we're gonna go get our hair, you know, died together,
<v Speaker 4>and we're gonna go to teeth whitened. I might get
<v Speaker 4>another tight fitting suit, you know. Uh but uh yeah,
<v Speaker 4>I mean I can't hold it in any longer. Anthony
<v Speaker 4>and I just we cannot get enough of Cody Rhodes.
<v Speaker 4>So yeah, that's that's actually what we do on our
<v Speaker 4>days off. So all weekend we've been with Cody and
<v Speaker 4>listening to his stories and he actually went out a
<v Speaker 4>really a massive revelation. I don't know if you guys
<v Speaker 4>know this. He let us know, get this, that his
<v Speaker 4>dad was a former wrestler, and not just any former wrestler,
<v Speaker 4>his dad is none other than Dusty Rhodes. You think
<v Speaker 4>I'm kidding, I'm not. So if you think I'm kidding,
<v Speaker 4>google it. That's how fascinating his life is and how
<v Speaker 4>important he is. And he also let me know that
<v Speaker 4>he's here to make me happy. So that made me
<v Speaker 4>feel good inside because I was worried that he was
<v Speaker 4>there for selfish reasons and then he was there to
<v Speaker 4>like finish this some kind of weird story. No, he's
<v Speaker 4>here to make me, make me happy, and you guys,
<v Speaker 4>that's what he'd let me know in our personal discussions.
<v Speaker 4>But so, all right, that is a by the way,
<v Speaker 4>that is a really perfect response to Cody's question. Now, well,
<v Speaker 4>the fans do this, no, because they are times just
<v Speaker 4>blinded by Cody's song, you know, and they're just blinded
<v Speaker 4>by that he's such a good guy and you know
<v Speaker 4>all this. I think that eventually when the fans turn,
<v Speaker 4>and I hope they do organically, and then Cody's sitting
<v Speaker 4>there like, befuddle this.
<v Speaker 2>I don't get it. I was so nice to them.
<v Speaker 4>I told him I do everything for them, and they
<v Speaker 4>why do they hate me? I really hope this happens
<v Speaker 4>somehow organically and the fans just say what that's through it,
<v Speaker 4>like a goof. That's probably what we'll do as a babyface.
<v Speaker 4>Just just smile like, oh, you guys are a rowdy
<v Speaker 4>bunch tonight, and then a stupid chick lit smile, and
<v Speaker 4>that's that's how we'll get through it. But if it
<v Speaker 4>consistently happens, oh man, you're making you're making me too happy.
<v Speaker 4>But I agree. I'm setting out the bulletin. Guys, if
<v Speaker 4>you are attending a Cody Rhodes's appearance, if you're going
<v Speaker 4>to raw, this is how you must respond properly. When
<v Speaker 4>he asks what we want to talk about? You say what? Exactly?
<v Speaker 4>All right?
<v Speaker 2>Perfect?
<v Speaker 4>Alrighty? So Pat mcaff NDJ cuzmo. I mean, I don't
<v Speaker 4>know if the Fox executives can handle that. That would
<v Speaker 4>be if you're not excited about you know, watching or
<v Speaker 4>listening to them. If you're not excited, if they don't
<v Speaker 4>get you excited.
<v Speaker 2>You're not a human.
<v Speaker 4>I agree, all right, here we go next boys mail.
<v Speaker 5>It's kind of for baltimoer so I wanted to tarbo
<v Speaker 5>last night's Raw, and overall that was really good, a
<v Speaker 5>good raw, really really hyped up the women's division. Really
<v Speaker 5>focused on the women's division a lot last night, which
<v Speaker 5>is great and you'll have to you know, the the
<v Speaker 5>teas Becky and Rhea again, it's like that match needs
<v Speaker 5>to be the wrestling made event next year on wrest
<v Speaker 5>me Ya Saturday. It needs to be the name of
<v Speaker 5>vent of WrestleMania as that match needs to happen. Hopefully
<v Speaker 5>that is the main event first minion next year because it.
<v Speaker 6>Needs to be that.
<v Speaker 5>So I enjoyed. I enjoyed the competition between well the
<v Speaker 5>face obviously Deckie Area that really was great. The indie
<v Speaker 5>Becky Uh. Same for next week is as well. That
<v Speaker 5>should be fined and decide ANXIA league that was fun too.
<v Speaker 5>And also Becky Coate face the face with Jade like
<v Speaker 5>how j faces face.
<v Speaker 6>With Charlotte and on Friday.
<v Speaker 5>So all of these pieces with the women's division on
<v Speaker 5>Raw gets you more excited and more invested and what's
<v Speaker 5>happening on Raw and then then I'll snat there right
<v Speaker 5>now currently, so uh, well we get there takes on
<v Speaker 5>debt about the face off between Ria and Decky and
<v Speaker 5>Ria and and Jade and and do you think that
<v Speaker 5>Becky and Ria is almost as should happen for WrestleMania
<v Speaker 5>in the manifact for US Beta next year, because I
<v Speaker 5>think it should be. So that's my quick thoughts. Some
<v Speaker 5>Raw and in the women's division and really just devolved
<v Speaker 5>with Decky really, but uh that's a different cause that.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Kyle, you know, the women's vision on Raw did
<v Speaker 4>seem to get a bit of a boost in this
<v Speaker 4>coming week. You don't have Becky Lynch on Raw, even
<v Speaker 4>though she's the next two women's champion and she's showcasing
<v Speaker 4>it and bringing a new talent and helping elevate new talent.
<v Speaker 2>It's all great.
<v Speaker 4>It's it's it's it's great, and I'm sure she's having
<v Speaker 4>a blast doing it, you know, better than than the
<v Speaker 4>Trish program, which was, other than the final match, just
<v Speaker 4>kind of a wampwomp, sadly not poking fun at it.
<v Speaker 4>It just was not an interesting program because it lasted
<v Speaker 4>too long and for a lot of reasons. But this
<v Speaker 4>with your proposal with Rea Ribley versus Becky Lynch for WrestleMania,
<v Speaker 4>bring it on. I think that, to me is a
<v Speaker 4>WrestleMania worthy match. Now, you could really pair Rea Ribley
<v Speaker 4>with anybody and have it be WrestleMania match. She has
<v Speaker 4>so many women she hasn't faced yet, obviously, Jade Cargill.
<v Speaker 4>You have Becky Lynch, you have Bianca bell Air that
<v Speaker 4>she hasn't faced yet. Hell, you even have Bailey and not.
<v Speaker 4>I mean that's a way outside chance. But my point
<v Speaker 4>is you have a lot of women that you could
<v Speaker 4>pair Ree Riby with, and a lot of that is
<v Speaker 4>because she hasn't even She's done nothing to defend it.
<v Speaker 4>Now nothing is a little strong, but she hasn't defended
<v Speaker 4>it in a way that you'd expect her to. She's
<v Speaker 4>been more interested in judgment day with but the boys
<v Speaker 4>are doing stuff. She's had some up until recently. Up
<v Speaker 4>until recently, she hasn't had really serious contenders, and she's
<v Speaker 4>been dominant but barely defending it. So how can you
<v Speaker 4>say someone's dominant if they're not really defending the belt?
<v Speaker 4>Kind of difficult, But that said, Becky Lyncheriera Ripley, Sure
<v Speaker 4>do I think they're gonna go there?
<v Speaker 2>Why not? They could.
<v Speaker 4>Becky Lnchuria Ripley is a absolute pay per view quality
<v Speaker 4>main event match. Yes, and I think we'll see the
<v Speaker 4>cue of whenever Becky drops that NXT belt of kind
<v Speaker 4>of telling us okay, she's ready to move back to
<v Speaker 4>the main and roster full time, and it could be
<v Speaker 4>after Rhea wraps up.
<v Speaker 2>What So, thanks Kyle.
<v Speaker 9>Hey, this is Jamiles Miller from Oregon. I want to
<v Speaker 9>talk a little bit about La Night. Yeah, but first
<v Speaker 9>the little backstory. Me and my kids, we've been watching
<v Speaker 9>WWE since WrestleMania this past year. You know, I graduated
<v Speaker 9>from high school back.
<v Speaker 7>In ninety five, so I was big into.
<v Speaker 9>WWE and middle school so you know, late eighties, early
<v Speaker 9>nineties whole Koga and Ultimate Warrior era, and then just
<v Speaker 9>stopped watching when I got a little older. So about
<v Speaker 9>thirty years later, now I got a sixth grader and
<v Speaker 9>a fifth grader and a second grader at home, the
<v Speaker 9>perfect age for this PG era of WWE, and just
<v Speaker 9>happened to be on Peacock one day it happened to
<v Speaker 9>be the day of WrestleMania and saw, wow, look we
<v Speaker 9>get WrestleMania for free, and so turned it on with
<v Speaker 9>the boys, and it was the actually the last match
<v Speaker 9>of the night. We saw Cody Rhodes and Roman reign
<v Speaker 9>and started watching, and we started watching every episode of
<v Speaker 9>SmackDown and Raw and all the pay per views or pls. Anyway,
<v Speaker 9>saw this sky La Night in a promo with The
<v Speaker 9>New Day and he smashed a video game controller and
<v Speaker 9>I was like, this is stupid.
<v Speaker 7>Who is this guy?
<v Speaker 9>And didn't really dig into him. But then one day
<v Speaker 9>I was asking my kids, we were about two or
<v Speaker 9>three months into watching WWA, who are your favorite wrestlers,
<v Speaker 9>And the youngest was like, oh, I like Cody Rhoades,
<v Speaker 9>like Seth, and I liked La Knight. And I was like,
<v Speaker 9>Ella Knight, why do you like that guy?
<v Speaker 6>I don't know, I just like him.
<v Speaker 9>And all the other boys liked l A. Knight too,
<v Speaker 9>And you know, here we go. They spotted spyted it
<v Speaker 9>before me. Anyway, now we're all big La Knight fans.
<v Speaker 9>We've got some Eli and Knight wrist fands on the
<v Speaker 9>way buying the merch just like wdwe wants us. But
<v Speaker 9>one thing I did want to say is in that
<v Speaker 9>La Knight versus Solo match at SmackDown, it seems like
<v Speaker 9>Ellie Knight kept putting his hands over his mouth and
<v Speaker 9>trying to talk to Solo. At one point he talked
<v Speaker 9>to the referee. I was wondering, Matt, if you could
<v Speaker 9>kind of discuss that withere wrestlers talking. Is that kind
<v Speaker 9>of not great when we can see that on camera?
<v Speaker 9>You know, I know they need to communicate as they perform,
<v Speaker 9>but I I don't know if you could talk about that.
<v Speaker 9>Is La Night just still a little green even though
<v Speaker 9>they're trying to pump them up.
<v Speaker 8>Anyway, Love the show.
<v Speaker 4>Thank you, Hey, Jay, I believe that's the first time
<v Speaker 4>I've heard you so welcome. And I hope things are
<v Speaker 4>going well over there in Oregon. And it's awesome that
<v Speaker 4>you have your kids getting involved with you. I'm getting
<v Speaker 4>close to that age myself with my kid, well, one
<v Speaker 4>of them's five, the other ones two, So again, start
<v Speaker 4>indoctrinating my five year old into the WWWE cults soon.
<v Speaker 4>But the PG see that's the benefit. A lot of
<v Speaker 4>people complain, oh, it's TV four with TV fourteen to
<v Speaker 4>be so much better with blood and guts and sex,
<v Speaker 4>and it's like, yeah, well, you know, there might be
<v Speaker 4>a niche of the audience, like the male eighteen to
<v Speaker 4>forty demo that carried WWE for so long, that would
<v Speaker 4>love that and feels that that wouldn't help improve the product.
<v Speaker 4>But then you have your alienating a lot of your
<v Speaker 4>audience that grew up in that time that now have
<v Speaker 4>kids that can't and won't allow their kids to watch
<v Speaker 4>the product that you know, if that if it was
<v Speaker 4>at that level. So w's smart in that respect now,
<v Speaker 4>So that's cool. Now you guys just started watching or
<v Speaker 4>you just started watching again.
<v Speaker 2>After thirty years.
<v Speaker 4>That's so crazy because you said you graduated in ninety five,
<v Speaker 4>two thousand and three, so I'm not too far behind you.
<v Speaker 4>You're so you're forty six, I'm thirty eight, and so
<v Speaker 4>that certainly is around the same time if you you know,
<v Speaker 4>you're in the mid nineties though it was kind of
<v Speaker 4>transitioning into the attitude or you were a year or
<v Speaker 4>two away from the attitude that are really starting with
<v Speaker 4>Vince McMahon and all that, the Austin and Rock and
<v Speaker 4>all that stuff. So you still you know, you still
<v Speaker 4>had a decent time with you know, Polkomania I would
<v Speaker 4>imagine and that kind of thing, and watching the birth
<v Speaker 4>of WCW. So you guys have graduated or your kids
<v Speaker 4>have gravitated towards La Knight. They have suddenly picked out
<v Speaker 4>the star they knew before you knew. That's that's crazy.
<v Speaker 4>Maybe you should pay attention. We should pay attention to
<v Speaker 4>your kids. Start reporting on us, like who are they
<v Speaker 4>seeing and that they really like? Because not too many people,
<v Speaker 4>but La Knight was smashing video of game. Controllers were saying,
<v Speaker 4>oh man, that guy is gonna be beat. This guy
<v Speaker 4>potentially beat Roman Reigns for the belt. You know, not
<v Speaker 4>too many, you know, So maybe your kids are I
<v Speaker 4>don't know, maybe they have some kind of ability that
<v Speaker 4>we don't know about. So keep us informed because the
<v Speaker 4>rest of us didn't see that coming.
<v Speaker 3>Now.
<v Speaker 4>Ella Knight is no amateur. Though the dude's forty years old. Okay,
<v Speaker 4>he's been in many other independent promotions. This is not
<v Speaker 4>his first rodeo, so he was in TNA for a
<v Speaker 4>long time. He's got a history of cutting really good promos.
<v Speaker 4>And as far as him calling matches in the ring
<v Speaker 4>and covering his mouth, you know that to me, I
<v Speaker 4>actually didn't pick up on that, and maybe because I'm
<v Speaker 4>immune to it and I've been watching since nineteen ninety
<v Speaker 4>seven straight, Like, I don't know if I've missed the
<v Speaker 4>televis show. That could just be me being numb to
<v Speaker 4>it and you being more observing of that because you
<v Speaker 4>haven't watched in so long. But that's you know, every
<v Speaker 4>guy has their own way of doing that and communicating
<v Speaker 4>and talking during a match. Some do it more often.
<v Speaker 4>If you have a very familiar opponent, you're not going
<v Speaker 4>to communicate with them on every single maneuver. It may
<v Speaker 4>be just kind of like you know what's coming, so
<v Speaker 4>you don't need to talk. But it's also a different
<v Speaker 4>different product now because you have, unlike when you watched,
<v Speaker 4>you know, in ninety five, high definition cameras that catch everything.
<v Speaker 4>You have the entire ring miked up. You can hear
<v Speaker 4>every little thing. So the wrestlers need to be even
<v Speaker 4>more careful about when they're communicating, you know. But you
<v Speaker 4>know what, I've even heard Triple H at times during
<v Speaker 4>his heyday call a spot and you hear it like
<v Speaker 4>duck down a leapfrog clothesline, and then the next thing
<v Speaker 4>is a leap frog and clothesline, like you hear it
<v Speaker 4>once in a while. It's something that's going to slip
<v Speaker 4>through with the thousands of maneuvers they do over their career,
<v Speaker 4>it's gonna slip. I haven't noticed that with la Night though,
<v Speaker 4>calling his shots. A lot of guys will just look
<v Speaker 4>like they're trash talking with their mannerisms, but they're actually
<v Speaker 4>calling a spot, So you got to make it look
<v Speaker 4>like you're not working with them when you're trash talking,
<v Speaker 4>but what you're actually saying is like, hey, here's what
<v Speaker 4>we're doing next. So there's lots of ways to cover it.
<v Speaker 4>But I did not notice that with Solo. So all right,
<v Speaker 4>let's get to our next voicemail.
<v Speaker 10>I like the franch guy here, sure, current European champion.
<v Speaker 11>I wanted to talk today above resting psychology and on why.
<v Speaker 10>I think WWE can make Cody Rose relevance for everybody,
<v Speaker 10>because now Cody Rose is really appreciated, but a lot
<v Speaker 10>of people in the ww universe, but realistically.
<v Speaker 11>For here on me included in Vince.
<v Speaker 8>About the coach Rose baby is tired.
<v Speaker 11>The reason being, in my opinion, is as Toty Rose
<v Speaker 11>didn't deserve, didn't deserve the title shots, the treatment, the
<v Speaker 11>face treatment, everything that's the problem because the roads gimmick,
<v Speaker 11>the babysitae gimmick.
<v Speaker 10>It's that he didn't deserve anything, and that's the problem.
<v Speaker 9>He needs to get into trouble.
<v Speaker 10>He needs to get into losses. He needs to get
<v Speaker 10>be enough, just like this raw by.
<v Speaker 6>Damien Priests, but even further, he needs to lose.
<v Speaker 8>He lost the tag titles.
<v Speaker 3>But that's not enough.
<v Speaker 10>He needs to put in the test. That's the absolutely
<v Speaker 10>of a hero story.
<v Speaker 6>Put in.
<v Speaker 10>That being in this restruggle doesn't count. It doesn't count.
<v Speaker 10>It can become a multiplier in the sentiment, in the
<v Speaker 10>feeling of him being a babyface. But first he needs
<v Speaker 10>to get into the test, not like the boss at
<v Speaker 10>the very beginning of the story. He needs to get
<v Speaker 10>beaten up, just like Daniel Bryan, just like John Cena,
<v Speaker 10>just like every relevant bib face.
<v Speaker 11>I don't know storyline wise or either by corporate company.
<v Speaker 11>So being beaten up, I think you understand my points
<v Speaker 11>and I think after that, Cody Roads will be one
<v Speaker 11>of the most relevant babyface ever.
<v Speaker 3>That's our for me for this week. Guys, see you next.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Alex, you bring up a good point, man. Yeah,
<v Speaker 4>this is something that Cody has not experienced yet. But
<v Speaker 4>the thing is, while you and I agree, and maybe
<v Speaker 4>the people that listen to this show agree. You hear
<v Speaker 4>the reaction every week, reaction continues to be very positive.
<v Speaker 4>I've seen no sign yet of the crowd turning on Cody,
<v Speaker 4>and maybe they're just still hypnotized by his entrance music
<v Speaker 4>and they haven't come out of that fog yet. But
<v Speaker 4>eventually they will, and they'll see this guy and go
<v Speaker 4>all right, great in ring wrestler, very good on the microphone.
<v Speaker 4>He's got a presence about him.
<v Speaker 2>He is a star.
<v Speaker 4>All of that's true objectively. I mean, I don't care
<v Speaker 4>if you love him or hate him, like you know,
<v Speaker 4>I hate his baby or his character, but I can
<v Speaker 4>objectively say he's a star and acknowledges talents at the
<v Speaker 4>same time. But you're right, his babyface character has a
<v Speaker 4>lot of flaws that are being covered up by a
<v Speaker 4>shiny suit and a good name, which is of course
<v Speaker 4>the Road's name, and all of a sudden he just
<v Speaker 4>comes back and we're all just supposed to We just
<v Speaker 4>blindly accept that he's a massive star. That is something
<v Speaker 4>I don't know why, because he's the first person to
<v Speaker 4>come back from aw that had a big name. He
<v Speaker 4>wasn't a star when he left. I mean, he was
<v Speaker 4>a star dust, but he wasn't a star. And he
<v Speaker 4>comes back and all of a sudden, we just accept
<v Speaker 4>that he's in the main event of WrestleMania. We just
<v Speaker 4>accept that he's number thirty in the Rumble and wins it.
<v Speaker 2>What Yeah?
<v Speaker 4>And then he just he wins match after match, and
<v Speaker 4>sure he lost a Brock Lesner match, Sure he.
<v Speaker 2>Won the War on that.
<v Speaker 4>Fine, he got beat up a little bit by Brock,
<v Speaker 4>but he ended up winning the War. And then he
<v Speaker 4>takes Roman Reigns to WrestleMania and would have beaten him
<v Speaker 4>had it not been for Solo, Like we're just supposed
<v Speaker 4>to accept he's automatically a WrestleMania main eventor that he
<v Speaker 4>can beat anyone. Mister squeaky clean, you're right. And when
<v Speaker 4>you said get into trouble, I know what you mean
<v Speaker 4>by losses. What I actually was thinking was he needs
<v Speaker 4>to get into trouble by like showing an edge if
<v Speaker 4>you want to change this babyface character from a just
<v Speaker 4>from a lot of the males of eighteen to forty
<v Speaker 4>looking at this going this guy is like he's not
<v Speaker 4>a real person. He's a politician. As I've said, which
<v Speaker 4>is exactly the perfect way to describe him. And he's
<v Speaker 4>smiling always, squeaky clean, great smile. His hair is done
<v Speaker 4>just so. He's very coordinated and methodical of his music.
<v Speaker 4>He's very self aware of his music. He's just always
<v Speaker 4>telling us how he's here to make us happy. I mean,
<v Speaker 4>throw up a little bit, guys, please, I just you know.
<v Speaker 4>So all of that, what I was thinking was at
<v Speaker 4>an edge, get angry, do something a little bit off
<v Speaker 4>the cuff, stop being mister morality. He's telling you, oh, well,
<v Speaker 4>Jay deserves a second chance, and all of a sudden
<v Speaker 4>he has the political power to bring Jade a raw
<v Speaker 4>and then he's the one responsible for Kevin Owen was
<v Speaker 4>going to smack down what's going on behind I don't
<v Speaker 4>know the fancy to wake up, but they won't. They'll
<v Speaker 4>sit in their slumber and keep saying they're woes, and
<v Speaker 4>Cody will keep asking them what they want to talk about.
<v Speaker 4>Thanks Alex, all right, A couple more.
<v Speaker 3>Sorry, Hey man, it's justin from Maryland. What everyone's doing. Well,
<v Speaker 3>I just want to get my thoughts on a couple
<v Speaker 3>of topics. So first is talk about Logan Paul Ramstereo
<v Speaker 3>coming up at Crown Jewel. I'm really hoping that they
<v Speaker 3>don't give Ray the belt. I'm sorry, Ray, I said, right,
<v Speaker 3>Logan Paul, hope they don't give Logan Paul the belt.
<v Speaker 6>I don't.
<v Speaker 3>I don't recall hearing your thoughts on this program coming up,
<v Speaker 3>but I really hope they don't have Logan Paul. When
<v Speaker 3>I thought they was going to go the route with
<v Speaker 3>Lastly and Ray, but I guess they're doing Lastly in Carlito.
<v Speaker 3>So just hoping that Ray retains. I mean, we're gonna
<v Speaker 3>get have to match and all that, but I don't
<v Speaker 3>think Logan Paul is the right person to beat Ray.
<v Speaker 3>He's not full time, and I mean it's Logan Paul.
<v Speaker 3>I mean he's gonna give us you know, if he won,
<v Speaker 3>it'll definitely bring him big heat. But I just don't
<v Speaker 3>think he's the right guy next. So I was definitely
<v Speaker 3>surprised at the the tag title chains on Raw. I
<v Speaker 3>missed it, but when I saw, I was just like, Wow,
<v Speaker 3>they lost, like they just won it. And I thought
<v Speaker 3>that they were gonna somehow set up Cody, Cody and
<v Speaker 3>j against Jimmy and Solo, but we got the judgment
<v Speaker 3>day Champions again, so I'm guessing they're gonna do Jimmy
<v Speaker 3>and j I don't even know. I mean, I don't
<v Speaker 3>think Crown Jewel is the right time because Jay's on Raw,
<v Speaker 3>but Jimmy was on Raw. He's gonna smack down, So
<v Speaker 3>I don't know. I'm just surprised that they won. And
<v Speaker 3>I'm just innoting to see like where they're gonna go
<v Speaker 3>with the tag titles because it like this setting up
<v Speaker 3>war games with with the judgment day in the Bloodline
<v Speaker 3>against Jimmy and I'm sorry against Jay, Cody and other people,
<v Speaker 3>but I'm just answered to see we're going to go
<v Speaker 3>as far as you know, like who the opponents are
<v Speaker 3>going to be next. So finally, so we're getting Roman
<v Speaker 3>in l A.
<v Speaker 9>Knight.
<v Speaker 3>I thought they were going to go with Sina and
<v Speaker 3>Roman one more time, but I guess l A. Knight
<v Speaker 3>it's just it's time. Basically, I don't see him winning.
<v Speaker 3>I think we're going to get a decent mass, probably
<v Speaker 3>get a school he finish. But it's good to see
<v Speaker 3>LA Knights getting you know, the spotlight right now, he's
<v Speaker 3>definitely over, but I don't see him winning right now.
<v Speaker 3>Heard they were getting Randy Orton coming back soon, probably
<v Speaker 3>by Survivor series. So I don't think l. A. Knight
<v Speaker 3>is the right guy right now to win, but it's
<v Speaker 3>good that he's getting his disposal, so that'd be cool.
<v Speaker 3>And then Gunter, I'm innocent to see who is gonna
<v Speaker 3>find next, because I don't, like I said, it's no
<v Speaker 3>one on the roster right now that that should be him.
<v Speaker 3>Like I think the person who's gonna be him is
<v Speaker 3>partly gonna come on from NFT because I don't think
<v Speaker 3>anybody on the roster.
<v Speaker 2>Is all right there justin go to hear you, man man.
<v Speaker 4>So a couple of points you mentioned, Logan Paul is
<v Speaker 4>not the right guy, and I would over this earlier
<v Speaker 4>in the show. He might not be from the logical
<v Speaker 4>perspective of, well, he's not there that much. He hasn't
<v Speaker 4>you know, he hasn't had what six matches on the
<v Speaker 4>on the card or on the w television. But the
<v Speaker 4>crowd reacts to him. He puts on really good matches.
<v Speaker 4>I'm not a Logan Paul defender or apologist. I have
<v Speaker 4>no love loss for for Logan Paul as a person.
<v Speaker 2>As a wrestler.
<v Speaker 4>The guy's got it and the crowd hates him and
<v Speaker 4>he's easily unlikable, and what you could do with the heel.
<v Speaker 4>Heel champions are always, as a rule of thumb, better
<v Speaker 4>because it helps build babyfaces up to take the bit
<v Speaker 4>the heel down. You want to see somebody rise up.
<v Speaker 4>When a babyface is at the top, it's like, oh no, huh,
<v Speaker 4>I hope none of these heels take it. It's harder
<v Speaker 4>to build a heel as a star when you're trying
<v Speaker 4>to take down a babyface instead of a baby face
<v Speaker 4>coming around and trying to take down a heel as
<v Speaker 4>a champion. So and the storytelling is usually better. So
<v Speaker 4>while he might not be the quote unquote the right guy,
<v Speaker 4>if you look at it through the lens of okay, well,
<v Speaker 4>if he's there to just help build new stars too.
<v Speaker 4>I mean, Logan Paul is still in the building star
<v Speaker 4>phase himself. But if the idea is to for the
<v Speaker 4>belt help build La Knight into a single star, then
<v Speaker 4>him winning the US title in the intrim could be fun.
<v Speaker 4>Him a program with Logan Paul and La Knight could
<v Speaker 4>be fun because let's face it, Rimsteria doesn't need the belt.
<v Speaker 4>You know, Ramsterio, right, now is not really in a
<v Speaker 4>position to hold the belt for a long period of
<v Speaker 4>time because it's not it's not gonna help or hurt
<v Speaker 4>his career. It's just kind of there, you know, if
<v Speaker 4>he continues to face against off against young talent to
<v Speaker 4>help build new stars. I'm all with it, all right now,
<v Speaker 4>your other point about Gunther, Who's next?
<v Speaker 2>Good question? I don't know. I mean you could.
<v Speaker 4>I would say Randy Orton, but I've I've placed Randy
<v Speaker 4>Orton in like eight different scenarios. Probably not Randy Orton.
<v Speaker 4>I mean again, you could have l A. Knight be
<v Speaker 4>traded to Raw and challenge Gunther. You could have another
<v Speaker 4>Chad Gable program with Gunther. You could have Bronson Reid
<v Speaker 4>part two. You could have you know, Ricochet again. I
<v Speaker 4>guess you know, there are several ways to go. But
<v Speaker 4>you're right, it could be somebody and should be somebody
<v Speaker 4>from the the NXT roster, maybe a Bronz breaker. How
<v Speaker 4>many times have all of us fantasized or fantasy booked
<v Speaker 4>rather him coming up to the main roster for several
<v Speaker 4>different scenarios. So sure you know, the NXT guys are
<v Speaker 4>probably more likely because I don't know who faces him
<v Speaker 4>that he hasn't already faced and beaten. All right, final voicemail.
<v Speaker 6>Let's go, ladies and gentlemen. This is the one and
<v Speaker 6>only the Gardener. Michael Gross. You're person who's on Wrestle Magic,
<v Speaker 6>your co host, Captain King, whatever you want to call them,
<v Speaker 6>and just on behalf of me my team. I want
<v Speaker 6>to say happy anniversary to us for three years on
<v Speaker 6>the mailbag. And I also want to say that Wrestle
<v Speaker 6>Magic has a lot of irons in the fire. You
<v Speaker 6>all obviously know about that.
<v Speaker 3>For people don't know about.
<v Speaker 6>My absence for a long time, it's because I have
<v Speaker 6>to take a lot of time to fall in love
<v Speaker 6>with a woman named Jennifer and just makes me happy.
<v Speaker 6>And I hope that you're happy, Matt, and I hope
<v Speaker 6>you're doing well with Marsh and Thrasher, your kids, and
<v Speaker 6>you know on behalf of just incredible PJ Glacko, who
<v Speaker 6>also wishes us the same things. I just love everybody,
<v Speaker 6>I love the show, and go la night, Thank you, goodbye, all.
<v Speaker 2>Right, Michael, Well, thank you so much. Good to hear
<v Speaker 2>from you.
<v Speaker 4>And yeah, never bed, time to take time away and
<v Speaker 4>focus on things that matter. So but yeah, the Headbangers
<v Speaker 4>are doing well, keeping me exhausted as always. I'm sitting
<v Speaker 4>here nearly midnight right now and I'm trying to end
<v Speaker 4>the show. Not that you're keeping me up, just I
<v Speaker 4>I need to hit to hey. But good to hear
<v Speaker 4>from you. I hope you talk soon and that. Yeah,
<v Speaker 4>I'm glad. You also reminded me about the three yearnniversary.
<v Speaker 4>Somebody else did too, and I'm like, what, I had
<v Speaker 4>no idea, not three anniversary of the show. I mean,
<v Speaker 4>I've been doing podcasting for nearly nine years. Actually it'll
<v Speaker 4>be ten years. I think this February that i've been
<v Speaker 4>doing podcasting generally. Maybe what I'll do, and I said
<v Speaker 4>this to the patrons earlier this year, that maybe I'll
<v Speaker 4>release one of my earliest episodes when my podcast was
<v Speaker 4>under another name. But I can't promise you won't get
<v Speaker 4>secondhand embarrassment. There's no promises you'll listen to this and
<v Speaker 4>go is he being a parody of himself? It's so embarrassing.
<v Speaker 4>I don't know if I can release it because then
<v Speaker 4>it's out in the world and it'll never go away.
<v Speaker 4>I've kind of locked them in a vault and let
<v Speaker 4>their corpses ROT is what I've done, the figurative corpses
<v Speaker 4>of my old podcast ROT.
<v Speaker 2>So we'll see.
<v Speaker 4>Maybe if I have a few beers one night and
<v Speaker 4>I'm feeling good, I'll release it and then the morning
<v Speaker 4>I'll wake up and go, what the hell did I
<v Speaker 4>just do? Yeah, that's probably what I'll do. Have some
<v Speaker 4>post regret, let the alcohol make the decision for me.
<v Speaker 4>That's always a good way to live.
<v Speaker 2>All right.
<v Speaker 4>Well, thanks everybody, Thank you Michael. I hope you're doing well,
<v Speaker 4>and thank you to everybody who called in. And I
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<v Speaker 4>can't do that. So thank you everybody, and I will
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