Hour 2 - Ja'Marr vs. Jalen, Tim Hasselbeck Talks Sheduer Sanders' Debut and Drake Maye's Stellar Season

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Speaker 2: Hour two on this Monday. Hope you had a great weekend. Coming up. A guy who deserves a victory lap. Tim Hasselbeck of the Mothership. He was the first guy I remember saying that he thought Drake May was the best quarterback in the draft when he was coming out. And I think that's the interesting part of this is sometimes we'll hear things and we move on. Sometimes we forget who's actually right on these saying. You know, Chris Simms, he was all in on Lamar Jackson in that draft. So I love remembering what people say. There's a lot of analysts who just say something in the moment and then we move on. But Tim Hasselbeck was the guy who said something about Drake May because he did acc games. You have to see games. You can see highlights, you know, I got I've watched Fernando Mendoza two games, Julian say, and I've watched two games, so I've able to watch a game or two, and that's the difference, not only in college. Like Jeremiah Love, I've watched three games, and I see the value that he has, and I think that's where you're being fair. You're being fair to the story one way or another. You know, everybody talks about Shador Sanders. Everybody wants to talk about Shador Sanders, and I always would say the same thing. I think he'll start for the Browns this year. He hasn't yet, but I think he'll get that opportunity. He doesn't have pocket awareness, he doesn't have pocket presence. Now his offensive line isn't good. The Ravens went after him. He did get his moment, but that's not really reflective or indicative of what I think he can be. But if Dylan Gabriel doesn't get hurt, I think the Browns win the game. But you know, Shador Sanders is going to get a lot of attention today. He was four for sixteen, he threw an interception, he was under fire. I'd like to see and don't please you analysts. Don't do this where you go. You know, that's the first time he's taken reps with the first team. Your backup or third string quarterback doesn't take reps with the first team. The only time that happens is when your veteran quarterback, Let's say Joe Flacco doesn't practice you know, maybe a day or two during the week, then you could get some first team reps if you're a quarterback. But please don't make excuses here. Right now, he's acting like he's a you know, a fifth round draft pick. Maybe he gets the opportunity his once again, get rid of the ball, get rid of the ball, have pocket presence. That's why Dylan Gabriel was playing. I don't know if Dylan Gabriel is better, but he's serviceable and he gets the ball out quicker than should or they all want to make a big play. Everybody wants to, you know, have Hey, there's a five yard out, Nah, I want to do the twelve yard in with a guy right on him. Take small victories here, especially if you're a young quarterback. But you know, we tend to focus on you know what's going to bring a click here too. And you know, I'm watching the Titans yesterday. You know cam Ward had a couple of moments there. Now you can see glimpses, but you got to watch a game because you can see a highlight. Go damn, he's good. Watch an entire game. Just to be fair, when we have these opinions and I don't think many people are doing that now. It's so easy to watch the red Zone or just watch Sports Center, get a couple of highlights or two, and it can be really, really misleading, and you got to be fair to these kids. It's the most talked about position in all of sports, and we play so much emphasis on that. It's just like Sam Darnold. If you watch the game, it was standalone game last night or yesterday, you know that late afternoon. If you're watching that, you're probably going, man, I got to see something in the postseason. And that's fair because I've seen him in three games to last year and in that game against the Rams, this is what we want to see. It's like Danny Dimes. I've watched him. I think he plays well. I think he doesn't have the pressure of New York and you cut down on your turnovers. So what happens in a big game turnovers. That's what we're going to say with Danny Dimes. I got to see this in the postseason. There's just certain players, certain teams where you go, yeah, okay, but that's what we want to see. Lamar Jackson, oh my god, is the incredible During the regular season and what do we say, let me see what he does in the postseason. Even yesterday not good. You're playing the Browns. Be fair to these these quarterbacks. Watch a game and see how they react respond if something bad happens, you get knocked down to get back up. I mean, that's the genius of When I look at Mahomes, you can hit him, put pressure on if he throws an interception. And that's a great defense he was going against. But it always felt like he was he was never his EKG. You know, wasn't up and down. It was just this is I'm in these positions. I've been here before. I know what to do in this now. Denver was the better team at that defense is wonderful and bo Nicks made some plays. Think you have a great game. It's like when people see Caleb Williams rush for a touchdown against the Giants previous week, like, man, did he have a great game? He didn't. He had a great fourth quarter. And I think that's where being fair to these quarterbacks. Watched the games, and that's what I appreciated about Tim Hasselbeck. He was watching Drake may play games. He was covering the acc and therefore, you know you put value on that. You know, if Herbie is going to tell me or Joel Klatt's going to tell me about somebody they're watching games and you're doing it for years. Chris Simms when his you know, my draft comes out or he talks about his quarterbacks. I mean, I'm zero in on that because I know there's there's depth to it, homework, there value to that. All Right, we get two phone calls, as we always do on Monday, Best and Worst of the weekend. Miles Garrett now has at least twelve sacks and six consecutive seasons. And the reason why I bring this up, that's the all time record modern record in the NFL, surpassing Lawrence Taylor. And he's had multiple games of four or more sacks in a season. He's done that in three career games with four or more sacks. Leslie O'Neill, Derek Thomas, Reggie White, and Chandler Jones.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, big German, I talked to him yesterday. I said, hey, so that scratch he goes, well, I would say scratch scratches, but he got into the garage, but then he had to get out of the garage, so he had to just go back and scrape it up. So Setanal John is coming up here a little bit later on more of your phone calls as well. By the way, there were five teams who won their game on the final play yesterday, Wild uh and a couple of them were happening like simultaneously, and I was watching the red zone and all of a sudden, it was like, Oh, there's a that's a winner, and there that's a winner.

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Speaker 5: Uh.

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Speaker 2: So it just feels like you get these one score Now. Then you have the Chargers against Jacksonville. You're thinking that could be a one score game, and it was. The Chargers had one score and that was it. It was a one score game. All right. Poll question for hour two is going to be what dylly?

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Speaker 6: All right?

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Speaker 7: Dan?

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Speaker 4: This is from Marvin. Actually, if you're not a Raiders or Cowboys fan, why are you watching the game tonight? I have money on the game. That would be my answer. I'll take any football no matter what. It's better than being with my family or other.

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Speaker 2: I don't know. Monday night football it's always special. Joe and Troy. Yeah, if Howard Cosell was doing the game, I'm okay with it. You know these are these are legendary franchises, good uniforms.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, Pauline, this is the kind of night where you need the Manning cast and they're on tonight because the game may not be juicy, but the Mannings can have some fun with blank guests and fill in the blank a little bit. Because this is a game, you could skip the first quarter and do other things easily.

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Speaker 2: Well, I think they're gonna score a lot of points. I think the over under is like fifty and a half. Cowboys favored by three and a half. Yes, Todd, how it's the football.

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Speaker 9: Even if you have in the background, it's you know, it's the last game of the week, it's there's something comforting, whether you like the voices of a Joe Ortroy, you just want to have a live football and in the background, almost as a night light while you're kind of dozing off.

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Speaker 2: Okay, that's all I'm good experience, right, but thank you. We spent a little bit of time talking about the situation with Pittsburgh and then the Cincinnati Bengals, Jamar Chase, the spitting incident on Jalen Ramsey. Jayalen Ramsey went through in great detail kind of how this happened, dawing back and forth, and then all of a sudden he spit on him. Jayalen Ramsey punched, Jamar Chase got kicked out of the game. Then we find out after the game there is video evidence of Jamar Chase spitting on Jalen Ramsey. Here is Jamar Chase with his excuse.

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Speaker 10: He was saying that you spin on him? Did you spin on him?

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Speaker 11: I never opened my mouth to that guy.

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Speaker 10: So what do you think Proud did?

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Speaker 12: The reaction from him.

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Speaker 2: Well, you don't like some of us swear, as I told him.

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Speaker 12: Who've been going back and forth the whole time, So I'm sure some got under this guy.

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Speaker 10: So it was building the whole game. It just wasn't on that drive. And the first time we had a education and then it was a second time.

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Speaker 2: Okay, well he's lying and there's video evidence. I don't know what was said, but there's nothing that is going to be said that warrants that. And this is where I'm really curious what the NFL does. Is it just one game? Because you know, and this has happened down through the years with the NFL, We've had incidents. We've had no names, we've had big names. We've had somebody getting spit on the Super Bowl. Steve Smith told us that he got spit on. So you've got Bill Romanowski spitting on a play, and you know, so there's guys me and Joe Green allegedly spitting on Conrad Dobler. It's happened, but that doesn't mean that you know it's part of the game. It should be there should be a real strong deterrent here. Now. I don't know if the NFL can say, all right, we suspended Jalen Carter for the game against the Cowboys, and therefore you can't come down harder on Jamar Chase, can you, Because I would suspend somebody for a couple of games. Let the message sink in because with that, think about the repercussions ramification. Let's say Jamar Chase, he's suspended for this next game, so you lose a game. Check now, you may lose that game. Therefore, there is no reason to bring Joe Burrow back. And you have a head coach who might be coaching for his job. So yes, you got caught up in the moment you spit on somebody, So Burrow's now not going to play. Your coach may get fired, probably will, and then you're gonna have another loss here. So it's not just a stupid moment here. It could be it could metastasize the issues with the Cincinnati Bengals. Yeah, dealing.

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Speaker 4: It was also funny how he said, I've never opened my mouth to that guy, and then he was like, so Whitey punched. He's like, well, he didn't like the words I was saying. I was like, I believe that is opening your mouth. Still. Also, the if you're going purely on spit volume, his was way worse than Jalen Carter's even so maybe that's two games.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I don't know if the NFL has the authority to be able to do that or the NFL Player Association comes in and said, hey, wait a minute here, one game, but he's he The reporter did ask a little bit later on in that conversation. He asked him again about did you spit on Jalen Ramsey and he said no, So he doubled down, and you know, maybe he's thinking, well, there's no nobody's got that video. I gets just his word against mine, but you know they're all crowded in there. Somebody else had to see it. I'm guessing, yes, Todd.

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Speaker 9: Some people have active salararary glare just Possiblely you open up your mouth like when you're a the dentist and things start squirting it out, then you don't even realize what you're doing.

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Speaker 2: You if that that happened with you, you would have an excuse.

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Speaker 10: I have very active salary.

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Speaker 2: Yes, if you did that and you spit on me, then I'd say and you could say I am sorry, and I would believe you that you didn't mean to I would hope.

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Speaker 8: So, yes, boy, And when you're watching in real time, I don't think Jamar Chase nationally has a bad reputation of getting in trouble on or off the field. So when I saw, like, Oh, Ramsey losing its cool, you assume it's that because you can't see it the spit when it happens, and they didn't replay it during the game.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know, Jalen Ramsey loves to talk, and I'm guessing Jamar Chase does too. But I'd be curious. So a couple of things I'm waiting for, see what the NFL does to Jamar Chase, an update on Aaron Rodgers, and an update on Josh Jacobs. I think that's kind of what we're waiting for. I don't think they're going to do anything to Jamar Chase this morning, but I'm guessing MRI with Rogers non throwing hand and Josh Jacobs with the knee injury for the Green Bay Packers. All right, we'll take a break. We'll talk some more football coming up. Your phone calls as well. We're back after this in The Dan Patrick Show.

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Speaker 2: Well, hear from Josh Allen incredible performance and they needed all of that against Tampa Bay. That'll be coming up in a little bit more of your phone calls as well, update the poll results. We are a I told you so sports society. Whether you're an armchair quarterback, whether you're a host, whether you're an analyst, your quick to say I told you, I told you not too many times. It's like gambling. You always tell people when you win. You don't tell people when you lose. And I wanted to have Tim hasselback on because Tim said this last or a couple of years ago, where he talked about Drake May and this is two years ago this month that he was telling us how great Drake May is. And a lot of times we move on from that, or you can tell some you know, hey, I told you he was no I actually heard it, and I said to Fritzi, I said, get Tim on. You deserve a victory lap, Tim hasselback, go on and take it. What did you see that made you think this was the best quarterback in that draft?

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Speaker 5: You know?

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Speaker 12: Then, I think what I saw it was just like the physical tools were obviously there, like that was a no brainer. And that's the case a lot of times with guys, you know, they're just like physically talented and that type of thing. But I think there were other things about him in terms of just his makeup, you know, in terms of like what his path was through high school, kind of what his upbringing was, what it was like, in terms of what his experience was like at Carolina, how it started things he kind of had to persevere through. And I just say this, like, I you know, I'm not I think I said to you, you know, back then, like I'm not a you know, the hot takes aren't really me. That's not what you know I've done I guess over the last eighteen years or so. But so I appreciate the victory lap. I usually don't get those. I hear when I'm wrong a lot, So I appreciate you, you.

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Speaker 10: Know, bringing that back.

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Speaker 12: But anybody who's in the media who does an evaluation of college quarterbacks has an incomplete assessment of them unless they have the ability to do like what Gruden used to do in terms of those quarterback interviews, Because truthfully, like those are as valuable in the evaluation process as seeing somebody throw live, and probably more beneficial than seeing somebody throw live. So you know, at the time, I had the benefits of calling Carolina games over multiple years and being able to meet with Drake. And so when you can sit with somebody and say, okay, well why did that happen?

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Speaker 10: What did you see here?

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Speaker 12: That tells you way more than just watching somebody's film and making an assessment on it.

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Speaker 10: So, look, I've been right about other.

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Speaker 12: Guys in the past, I've been wrong about other guys in the past. To me, there was really nothing wrong with him as a prospect coming out, and from my conversations with them, it was like this guy totally gets it, gets everything about playing the position and what it would be like to have to be the leader of a franchise.

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Speaker 2: One other topic, and I know most of your NFL career was as a backup, and much has been made about Shador Sanders that he didn't get first team reps, and you know, Chase Daniel Josh McCown tweeted out, the backup quarterback doesn't get first team reps. It's standard. But it feels like everybody keeps trying to make excuses for Shador Sanders and that shouldn't be one of them, that he didn't get first team reps. So as a backup quarterback, how often would you get first team reps during the week.

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Speaker 10: Yeah?

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Speaker 12: Never, So you know, Chase and Luke are exactly right. They've lived it, just like every backup has lived it. And what's interesting about being the backup is you don't get any reps. But when you're thrown in there, everyone wants you to play like a starter, and when you don't, no one says, oh, well, you know, well Timmy didn't get the reps. Like it doesn't work that way, Like it just that's just that's how it goes. It's the same thing at pretty much every position. You might you know, some spots just because of the running and things like that at practice. You know, you could lighten the load at certain positions you know, are running back, maybe who's who's had a bunch of touches throughout the season. But really the way it works is you only get so many plays in practice. You know, like guys don't go in at eight o'clock and practice plays until five thirty. It doesn't we like you'll wear people out, like it's a long season. And so look, it might be twelve seven on seven reps, fourteen team reps, and then by those, you know, you kind of section them out in terms of you know, situation football, will you give those to the guys that you're expecting to be playing, especially if it's a you know, a relatively young, inexperienced player, you know, So like that's that is standard practice across the league. And really the only time a backup would get any type of work at the quarterback position is if you know, the starter is just you know in year fifteen, year eighteen, and they're kind of like designed days off.

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Speaker 10: Other than that, the starter takes all the reps. That's just how it works.

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Speaker 2: In the NFL and watching shoodo Or and granted he gets far more attention than he should. His pocket awareness is not very good. His decision making is not very good. These are all things. This is you know, why he was taken late in the draft. Now, those are things that I feel like he can correct. But this isn't Colorado.

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 2: Now you're in the NFL and you're going against the Ravens and they're going after your head. I mean, they know you're gonna throw, and you go four for sixteen, throw an interception, and I don't know what happens after this. I guess it depends on Dylan Gabriel. But it feels like Dylan Gabriel got that starting job Tim because he was quicker at the line of scrimmage. He did get the ball out. I don't know if he's better, but I think he's better at the things that at least can help you keep a drive alive.

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Speaker 12: It's typically obvious in terms of the quarterbacks that are on a roster of who's most ready to play. It's typically very obvious. You know a lot of times, you know, people will talk about, well, hey, the coach made the decision to go with this guy or that guy. Usually what happens is, you know, if there's any type of parody in terms of the amount of reps guys get, it's very clear who's operating the.

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Speaker 10: Situation better, you know, than the next guy. It's just it's obvious. You know.

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Speaker 12: There are very few times that it's like, I'm not really sure.

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Speaker 10: It seems to be pretty even.

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Speaker 12: And so that's why, Like when you look at how things panned out at the beginning part of the year in Cleveland, I think it was pretty obvious to them like that, you know, Flacco was at the time the most prepared to do it, and if Gabriel was the next guy up through the process, like it was most likely very obvious to everyone there that was making decisions that he was the most prepared to operate it. And Dan, like, sometimes it can be as simple as can you actually spit the play out in the huddle correctly? Can you actually get to the line of scrimmage? And when someone lines up incorrectly, can you get them lined up on the right side of the field. And when you get a front or a look that doesn't work with the run or the protection you have called, can you make the adjustment, you know, by making the call. And if you can't do those things, oftentimes you know if a guy is ready to play or not before he ever even snaps the ball in practice. It's just a matter of can you at least get us to the point where you're giving us a chance before your ability to make a throw or make somebody miss ever comes into play.

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Speaker 2: Talking to Tim Asselback ESPN NFL College Football analysts, former NFL quarterback, give me the best pro prospect in college football at quarterback this year? Oh gosh, now the pressure's on.

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Speaker 10: You know, you're you're hitting me. Oh man, you're hitting me way too early. Because I don't want to do this.

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Speaker 12: Like Dan I and I, this is gonna be a cop out. Maybe you'll never invite me back again. But I don't like doing that, well, saying something without having really watched. Here's why I say that. Here's why I say that. So I've been at ESPN for you know, I think this is year eighteen, and you know, I've always taken the approach. Look, I was not a star player, and so I've always felt like I've had to take my job as an analyst, you know, and approach.

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Speaker 10: It the way I did is is basically somebody that was always.

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Speaker 12: Clinging to our roster spot and early on in my career, uh in TV, I I paid too much attention to what other people were saying about guys I was and I was wrong, you know what I mean, because I let it influence me.

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Speaker 10: And I was like.

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Speaker 12: Listen, if I'm going to get fired as a host or as an analyst because I think.

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Speaker 10: At kind of projecting who I think.

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Speaker 12: Will be a good quarterback, it's at least going to be because of.

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Speaker 10: My work and my opinion on it. And so you know, so.

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Speaker 12: I say that to say that, like it's too early for me to do that. I will happily if you will invite you on for dunk in your question. Now come back and give you a well thought out opinion on who I like in this year's draft.

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Speaker 2: Think so you like Fernando Mendoza.

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Speaker 14: Okay, hey, listen, listen that What I do always like is time on Tesk, a guy who has played the position like Reps.

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Speaker 10: I don't like guys that have seventeen starts.

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Speaker 12: I don't like guys that have you know, two hundred and seventy five attempts.

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Speaker 10: I like guys that have time on task.

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Speaker 12: And because I don't think that they if they don't have it, then you are guessing. Like anybody who said they knew Trey Lance was going to be a good pro prospect, they were guessing there wasn't enough evidence he hadn't played enough football since leaving high school.

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Speaker 2: Trubisky same way. I got to have at least thirty A friend of mine who's a scout said I got to have at least thirty starts. And he said, you know, I'm not going to get bow Nix and Jane Daniels who have sixty starts, but if I can get anything over thirty, now I have the sample size that I can rely on. You agree with that, Yeah.

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Speaker 12: Listen, parcels, commandments are not far off from being you know, pretty pretty spot on, right. I mean it just like his I think are forty five. I think that's what you know, or forty or something like that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 12: So yeah, so your friend that's a scout that's saying listen, man, like, yeah, give me at least thirty starts and a little of adversity to fight through before I can figure out at all.

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Speaker 10: If you're ready to handle this at the highest level.

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Speaker 2: And you bring up adversity, and I bring this up all the time, but I've got, you know, forty years of watching this. Show me the quarterback after he throws a pick six, Show me the quarterback after he gets sacked. That's what I want to see, because that'll tell me more than you know. You lead the team down and throw a touchdown pass, you're going to have adversity in college. You may not have that much. Julian saying is completing eighty percent of his passes. He's not going to complete eighty percent in the NFL or seventy and maybe not sixty.

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Speaker 12: But then right, I think it's an amazing point. And one of the other things as you reference college guys now. In the past, for sure, guys had to go earn it at the college level. Like you, you might be at a place where there's other quarterbacks on the roster, no one's making more money than the next, and you had to compete and earn the job and had to fight to stay on the field. Now in college football, there are guys that are playing just because they're getting paid. So that idea of having to play through adversity and prove it all the time. Like that I think is being stripped a little bit from the college game and to you know, in terms of responding to the adversity, you know, responding to it in you know, kind of micro you know, moments in terms of in a game when it happens, but also even you know, bigger when the struggle is real and it's weeks at a time and you're being blamed for things that aren't your fault. Like all of those things I think are things that tell you way more about a quarterback in the longevity of him being able to sustain success at the position.

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Speaker 2: If the Chiefs make the playoffs, yeah, is there a team that you would take over the Chiefs who probably won't They're not going to have home fielded vantage, But is there a team that you would take over them? In the AFC?

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Speaker 12: Yeah, I think there are a bunch of teams that on their home stadium would be able to be Kansas City.

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Speaker 10: I think I think a bunch is probably extreme. Look, if.

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Speaker 12: I think Buffalo would be able to do it, I think Denver, as we just saw, would be able to have a good plan and be able to hang in there and do it. And so you know, would the Colts be able to do it? I think some certain things would have to.

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Speaker 10: Go their way.

00:30:29
Speaker 12: Look, everyone's going to be a little bit afraid of Kansas City if they make it into the tournament and are showing up you know, in their building. Sure, but that path is different. You know that Kansas City's defense is very good, but they're.

00:30:42
Speaker 10: Better at Arrowhead.

00:30:43
Speaker 12: Then they're going to be on the road in the postseason like that will be a factor. And also this playing another week, you know they're used to having, you know, a first round. By playing another week is a thing. So yeah, I really think that Kansas City. You look at their skeed. Can they find four more wins?

00:31:01
Speaker 10: Yeah?

00:31:01
Speaker 12: I think they can. They get to nine wins, maybe they get a tenth. Like I think they're going to be in the postseason. They'll scare people, but the for sure beatable.

00:31:11
Speaker 2: What is it about Mahomes If you if somebody didn't see him and you were going to explain his greatness, how would you do?

00:31:19
Speaker 5: Then?

00:31:21
Speaker 12: I think the things that the guys at the very very highest level are doing, and then Mahomes is definitely in this mix.

00:31:27
Speaker 10: Is they can play perfectly in the structure of.

00:31:31
Speaker 11: An offense, meaning like the guys that have to play right on time ball comes out quickly see it, Hey, you have a blitz, they adjust the protection, get it picked up, or they throw the hot they see the side adjustment, all that stuff.

00:31:43
Speaker 10: But then he's got.

00:31:43
Speaker 12: The ability to outside the design of the play do things where you go like that literally goes against everything you would ever coach somebody to do, because it's like because guys physically don't have the ability to do it and that type of thing. And then I also think that he has I don't know, maybe the best way to say it is a competitive awareness in critical situations like gotta have it situations to kind of raise his ability to be better than most in that environment, Like why does he run better in the playoffs in critical moments?

00:32:19
Speaker 10: Like why does that happen?

00:32:20
Speaker 12: It's like, well, you know what, because he just gets it man, like it is on the line at that moment. And I think, look, I think Josh Allen does that, like, but Mahomes for sure does that.

00:32:31
Speaker 2: I'll leave you with this. I'm watching Jalen Hurts. I don't think he's a good passer, right, but I think he's a great quarterback. Does that make sense? Like, Hey, I've seen him at his highest level go toe to toe with Mahomes. It's just I he's not one of those regular season guys where you're gonna go, boy, look at those numbers, and even last night it's it's not really threatening. So how do they make him a better passer?

00:32:57
Speaker 10: Yeah, here's what I'd say about last night.

00:32:59
Speaker 12: I do think and you know, this is another one of those where it's like it can be an incomplete evaluation.

00:33:05
Speaker 10: I thought golf looked like pretty bad last night.

00:33:07
Speaker 12: I think the conditions there, you know, which don't always appear on television. Maybe we're a little rough, so I think there's an element of that. But to your point, I think he had under one hundred yards passing.

00:33:17
Speaker 10: Through three quarters. So, you know, how do you make him a better passer?

00:33:21
Speaker 12: I think you really try to hone in on the things that he does extremely well, which you know, I think there are certain kind of you know, concept combinations that they've been really successful with in the past, pairing certain runs with the pass where it defines the look easily, you know, for him. But I think it's I think it's really diving into that stuff. The other thing that I think has happened, and it's a little bit of a.

00:33:49
Speaker 10: Double edged short.

00:33:50
Speaker 12: I think running a quarterback and expecting him to be really accurate is asking guys to do something that's nearly impossible.

00:33:57
Speaker 10: Right.

00:33:58
Speaker 12: It's the foul shooter who like, there's good when he's super tired, right when he's not. For quarterbacks at the same time, with I think the type of football player he is, so yes, he's a quarterback, but I think also the type of football.

00:34:14
Speaker 10: Player is I think he's a little bit better when he runs.

00:34:17
Speaker 12: I just think that the threat of him as a runner, I think clears things up as a passer.

00:34:22
Speaker 10: And they just haven't been running.

00:34:23
Speaker 12: Him, which I don't think is a bad plan in the regular season, but I do think they need to run him in the postseason.

00:34:31
Speaker 2: Congratulations on your victory.

00:34:34
Speaker 10: Hey, well, I just would say thank you because you're the only one that's ever off or something like that too me. So I appreciate that very much. That doesn't happen.

00:34:43
Speaker 2: Thank you, Tom. All right, thank you Tim Hasselback, ESPNNFL college football analysts. All right, well take a break. Seaton's going to join us from Vegas and We'll get to more of your phone calls as well. We're back after this.

00:34:56
Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our shows at Foxsports Radio dot com and within the iHeartRadio app search FSR to listen live.

00:35:08
Speaker 2: Mako wants to send you to Super Week in February. Visit Danpatrick dot com Enter daily for a chance to win. Get official rules, No purchase necessary. Voyd in Alaska and Hawaii and got to be at least eighteen ends eleven, twenty three, twenty five eleven, Seaton O'Connor on the road with the Mako Van and now in Vegas. Got any what kind of updates do you have for me?

00:35:35
Speaker 15: Let's see, had a good weekend. Saw a lot of like national parks and stuff like that in this area. That was pretty cool. Got my uh like Valley of Fire. They all have these like super heavy metal names. It's like Ghost Mountain and Fire Valley and all this stuff is like, dude, it's so sick. Uh Yeah, got to uh got to Vegas last night in one piece and ready to go.

00:35:57
Speaker 2: Okay, the big German inspected the Makeo Van. He narked you out.

00:36:05
Speaker 15: Yeah yeah, Okay, Well, the big German likes to make things sound worse than they are.

00:36:10
Speaker 2: So what did he say? Is the van a convertible? Nowtible? What are you talking about? Yead? He always does this. Okay, you said it was a scratch. The big German said, let's go look at it. He went out and realized that you were trying to go into a parking garage and you scrawped the roof.

00:36:31
Speaker 5: I told him that.

00:36:32
Speaker 15: I told him exactly how it happened.

00:36:33
Speaker 2: I said, yeah.

00:36:34
Speaker 15: When he first thought, he was like, I thought you messed it up?

00:36:37
Speaker 2: Was that just a bit?

00:36:37
Speaker 15: I was like, no, it's just all up top, and he's like, oh, you can't even see it, so don't worry about it. Exactly exactly, you can't even see it.

00:36:43
Speaker 2: To't worry about it. But did you go into a parking garage misjudging the height and then you got in and then had to get back out?

00:36:52
Speaker 15: I would prefer to not look at the Actually, you know what, I have a live look of exactly how the top of the Makeo van looks right now. It looks similar to this thing. It's sort of this is essentially what we're driving.

00:37:07
Speaker 2: Right now, all right, nice airflow there, nice air Yeah.

00:37:13
Speaker 15: Dude, you could actually drive this thing, believe it or not. It's got like a legit engine in it, and uh it's it'll get you like one hundred miles an hour if you.

00:37:20
Speaker 2: Want a radio flyer wagon that yeah, yeah, yeah, dang like this. Oh yeah, that thing is tricked out, is the kids?

00:37:33
Speaker 15: Oh yeah, you might see us going up and down the strip as they say a little later.

00:37:37
Speaker 2: I like that. All right, So you're at a Maco place. Do you want to have the Maco people look at the roof.

00:37:45
Speaker 15: I mean, I think it makes sense. I think it's that's something I'm just gonna buff out myself.

00:37:50
Speaker 2: I can tell you that. Well, you know, sorry you got narked by the big german, but.

00:37:58
Speaker 15: Well I expected nothing.

00:38:02
Speaker 2: All right, Well we'll see you then a couple of days. All right, Yeah, are you going to go to a hockey game?

00:38:11
Speaker 15: I think that's the plan. I think we're talking about a little hockey tomorrow night. That'll be two in one week.

00:38:15
Speaker 7: Hockey.

00:38:17
Speaker 2: You're the soccer guy and the hockey guy. Let's go and not necessarily a great driver, yeah, accurate. All right, Well we'll talk to you in a couple of days. All right, buddy man, that's a setne O'Connor on the road with the MAKEOVM. So it's somewhere in between that it's not that bad, but it could have been bad. According to the big German, Mako wants to send you to Super Week. You can come out and see all the damage that Seaton did to the Makeovan Danpatrick dot com got to be at least eighteen or older. A couple of phone calls in here, David in Phoenix, David, thank you for holding what's on your mind today?

00:38:57
Speaker 7: Good morning? I got two best to comment in a question for Paul waking up yesterday morning. My Penguins were playing the Nashville Predators in Sweden. I had no idea, but that was a bonus for live hockey early. And then of course my Steelers winning was good. And my comment is Miles Garrett on one side of the defensive for the Browns and then Joe Thomas the offensive, great tackle. I mean, they're just irrelevant in the long run because of the Browns. It's pretty unfortunate.

00:39:32
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're going to have, you know, first ballot Hall of Famers, one at defensive uh and and one at offensive tackle. Thank you, David, Yeah, Miles Garrett, Hall of Famer, Uh Andrew and grand Rapids. Hi Andrew, Hey Dan, how you guys doing today? Good? Good to hear.

00:39:54
Speaker 5: I had a best and worse over the weekend. Best was I found out I'm going to be a new father for a first time. I'm father, so very.

00:40:01
Speaker 2: Excited about that, all right.

00:40:03
Speaker 5: Worst of the weekend was my poor Lions game. That call at the end. I know it didn't guarantee us a win or anything, but man, we would have had a shot. That was a rough pass interference call. I had one other comment. They kept talking. Jared Goff is oh for three on third, oh for four on fourth. He's doing terrible under the pressure. I felt like Dan Campbell was dialing up some really nice plays on second and long third and long fourth and short. We had guys getting open and drop passes, maybe running the wrong routes. I thought a lot of that was a little less on Jared Goff than it was our receiving corps, who is normally pretty handy and pretty sure handed.

00:40:46
Speaker 2: And then Dan Campbell, he got all the credit the previous game doing the play calling and then got to take the blame for the play calling last night. Thank you, Andrew, thank you for the phone call update the pull results. If you can, Dylan, yes, then.

00:41:01
Speaker 4: So the last question was, if you're not a Raiders or Cowboys fan, why are you watching tonight's game? And I simplified it to just I have money on the game. I'll take any football or other and sixty will just take any football.

00:41:13
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, what else are you gonna do? Spend time with the family, Deadliest Catch, Real Housewives, Basketball Wives? Yes, Marvin, did you watch the Adye Murphy documentary yet? I have not not. I finished, only Murders in the Building. Oh, how was it? It's good. It's good. Oh no, I mean it's good. It no, I'm just it's how about your voice? Okay, it's good. How's that?

00:41:43
Speaker 7: Here you go?

00:41:44
Speaker 2: It's good, it's good. Yeah, it's great.

00:41:49
Speaker 10: Yeah.

00:41:49
Speaker 2: I got a couple of other things that I'm the Morning Show with, of course, Jennifer Aniston and Reese Witherspoon watching that too, All right, final hour in this Monday right around on the corner