#59 - Adam Hambrick - Songwriter Who Wrote "How Not To" by Dan + Shay and More

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Speaker 1: All right, welcome to episode fifty nine of The Bobby Cast and with writer performer artist Adam Hamburg. How are you good, man, I'm good. So let's tell my story about how we met. Is I was playing the Bluebird Cafe. It was me, Eric Passley, Fred Willham and Lindsay l and we're playing and it was the first time I ever played the Bluebird Cafe, and I didn't know that you're supposed to like do this thing where you go, Hey, I brought somebody up and they come play. I don't know. That was like a thing, mean obviously geeking out because I was gonna play the Bluebird Adam, I don't know what. So Lindsay was like, hey, I wanted to bring this guy upke. I was like, Adam Handbrick, I know you're from Arkansas's why I knewho you were. And so Adam comes up and sings how Not to the Dan and Shade right now. I believe it's the number seven on the chart, and Adam he just crushed it. And I was like, holy crap, but you wrote that song, you wrote how Not To From? And that's the first time we've ever met, first time I've ever heard of you. That was pretty cool. That was a pretty cool nut. How you played before, Yeah, I played, I played several times. Well I did it the first time I ever played it. Uh, it was an as cap round. This was two thousand. I pulled up to the blue Bird with a U haul, like I just moved my crap from Arkansas at a U haul full of furniture. But you drove up in the move and drove right to the Bluebird. It was the most quintessential, like stereotypical Nashville thing you ever heard. Drew my drove my little U haul up to the back of the blue Bird and like got out like win in and and uh and Vince Gill was playing after that, and so he was like lurking around like that's Ben skill And how long was my life? That was four and a half four four years and three months ago. We got here about the same time. Then, oh yeah, yeah, we got it about the same time. So let's do this first. First thing here is how not to from Dan and Shay. This it's your biggest song so far, so far because you're the new kind of the new the reason I want to bring in because you're the guy now that everybody starting to go, oh I did're right with that dude, And it happens in town where somebody gets a big head or two and people like, holy crap, we gotta grab this guy. So here's how not to. So this is the first time we've done this. Is that I was like, hey, let's hear the work tapes of how and so I have them here. This is so cool, So talk me through this. I want to play the first one here how not to it his work tape raw? Oh man, that's super raw. So uh so we wrote it that day and um who wrote song? So it was me and and Paul did Giovanni and Kevin Bard and uh and and funny story they uh, I'd written with them before and um, but they were kind of still making trips back and forth the Nashville from l A and uh and I had written on the day before and it was it was midway through December. I was and I thought it was my last rite because when they text me before, I forgot to put it in my calendar. And so they text me the day before and like, hey, man, are we still good for tomorrow? I was like yeah. I was like I was like ready to kick it in Christmas mode, you know what I'm saying. So this is the last rite of the year, the last rather year. I didn't expect to have it. And like that morning I woke up, I was like, I just I just want to get my stuff ready and drive home see my folks. I was like, I mean it had been kind of a It's another quintessential writing story because like people go, you know what, I didn't want to put on the record or I was gonna go home, absolutely absolutely, And and so we we showed up and Paul had this incredible idea that was born out of some sort of like personal experience. Um and uh and I I don't want to speak to exactly what the situation was or anything like that, but but it was like it came from a real place. It was a real idea. He's like, I don't know what, you know, I don't know what this is, but like like I had this idea of I don't know how not to love you, you know, and and uh, and I just kind of started singing this melody and the chorus and then it just kind of all filled in on top of itself and it fell out fast. Man. Here is the work tape. So this is you singing. Yeah, this is a really bad It's not really. Here's the thing. All work tapes are bad, but only in the way of bad compared to a studio version. Actually it's pretty phenomenal. So this is how not to. This is Adam Hambrick singing, how not too? This is before you pitched it anywhere? Right, Yeah, okay, so that's a process I want to talk about too. So here you go. This is the first time it was recorded. But I don't know how not a bad when a slade and mad and crying and listen on the door back and all they stayed pretty true, Yeah, pretty pretty true. They went up, I guess, and um like they went up and keep shaded because because he's is like a freaking maniac and um and yeah. So actually I thought you were gonna play like the work tape, work tape, like the acoustic iPhone work tape? Do we have that one? Let's say this is so this? Um this is like uh we actually so here's a funny wrinkle in the story. It's like, um, I cut my own version and we were gonna put it out as my song. Um so, so my buddy Andrew Droberts produced it, and we you know, we kind of built up this track and and we cut my own version. We were gonna put it out to kind of XM and Spotify and like do all the normal like independent artists trying to work the thing and uh and then and then it just kind of like had this damas shape thing kind of popped up, and I was like, man, that's that's the best thing that can happen to me right now, is to get get a big cut and possibly a big single and all that stuff. And so we just so we in faith gave it to them. Knew they were going to do a great job with it, because I mean, they's gonna be a tough thing though, right, Like, you have a song, right, you love it, I'm about to play it here. That's the fully produced version, and you're gonna put this out there like this. That's so good, dude, and you're ready and then someone else to say want the song? I mean, I know what's Santa, And I'm friends with those guys like on a level more than most artists. But still it's your song, And how hard is that for you to go the song that I cut and I it was going to really be my artist entry into the game. I'm gonna give away now. Well here's here's the reality where I was. So a month before I wrote that song. Uh, actually I lost my first pub deal. So, um, it was kind of like it wasn't like we don't think you're good or you know, it wasn't like one of those things. Was just like the end of the end of the term and the guy that had originally signed me was not there anymore. So you didn't get renew I didn't get renewed in my contract. And so but like even though the writing was kind of on the wall, like I was still at a place where like my confidence was a little low, you know, like like I just I needed something good to happen. You know what I'm saying. I bet they're kicking or something right now. I mean they've got they let you go in and you put out a smash. Yeah, but they I mean they're they're one of the big dogs. They got still money. There's everybody I get paid. Yeah. But anyway, so, um, so I was kind of inspired. I just, man, I needed something good happen, like I was. I was and after I after I lost that deal that next That next year was really the best thing that could have possibly happened to me, because I I walked away from it and I just you and I was like, all right, I'm gonna stop trying to outthink myself. I'm not going to try to write a song of the year every day. I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna figure out what I do that hits the target of country radio, Like what do I do that hits that target? And what do I do that I love? And kind of like how can I get those two things to line up? And that's really what I spent that next year doing and and and that's where that song came Faust where how knots you came from? And here's the work tape we found it. O man, let's see, this is my fas from your iPhone. You just hit record on the iPhone in a voice member. There you go. It's cool. It's like birthing and baby right now, we're going to see all of it, key and take back fine pin. That's so cool, dude, because we got to hear right as you're done writing it, you hit everybody. That's just what happens in the right you're all sitting around. You finished the song. You're like, all right, let's try this. Everybody lays their I phones down. You go to whatever program it is, if its voicemail or maybe you have you're using your computer. You know, different people these different things, and you go, okay, three to one. You hit the button and then you put our position the phone in the right place for it picks up just enough guitar and you play it the first time through and then you go all right, that's it. And then that work tape turns into this know how it's good back when a slade and that and then Dan and Shade taking it sounds like this. Hell, we're watching the kid growing graduating right there, A song came out of the baby. Now it's going to college, about to have a career, and one day it's about to return by me about that. Yeah, that's that's cool, man. I still feel you know this. This past weekend I was out, I was at with your buddy Pasley and we were writing and he was he was saying, uh, because I have to have this thing where I try to like not downplay it, but I don't want to, like, I don't want to be that guy, like, we get it. You wrote that song, you know. Um. But but he was saying, he said, mans, you enjoy it like like the first one, like you don't ever have another first one, so like like really taking and really soak it up and really enjoy it. And and uh, that was a really good point. So I've I've really been trying to take that to heart and and just like accept the compliments and be and be thankful for him and and really drink him in a little bit. And um, and just be thankful for thankful for the opportunity to have a have a big song. I gotta know, though, again, I want to go back to them calling whomever called you and said, hey, Danny Jay would like this song. I first of all, howd they hear it? But it still was it being pitched while you were cutting it. It was still it was still being pitched while I was cutting it, because I mean it's still just made sense, like like still looking for a win for Adam, Like however we can get it right and um. And so fast forward from ah from originally like writing that song. Um, fast forward I guess a year and two months so January of sixteen. Um, so at this point, Rascal Flats had actually had it on hold and Rascal Flats like their their team loved it and um, but Dani Shaves in the studio. Dani Shay or Dan was on his way to the studio. He text his friend Rohan uh who's a writer manager in town and and he says, hey, Rohan, send me send me some hits. We've got space for one more on the session and Rohan Rohan says okay, and he sends two or three songs. The first song he sent him was how Not To and um and Dan flipped out. He loved it, like he's like, man, this is this is a smash. He played with Scott Hendrix, his producer, and Scott loved it. It was like, man, we gotta cut this. And so they called Flats people like hey can we have this and the like yeah, I guess we don't have a cut date yet, And you know they were just holding it. They were holding it, have been holding it for several months at that point, and are you just like come on with it already, like you've been holding for several months, like let's go what you know you Because I would be like that being like let's go it's it's a little like that, but still bear in mind I was still looking for a win, ye know. So, um so I was in no position to be like, hey, country music Hall of famers like coming in your heart, like let's go off the put somebody. Nothing nothing like that, you know. So there's I saw a video and I saw on Instagram to the picture two of they Dan and Shape took you out and you sang this song and the whole crowd sing it back like that's gotta be crazy, right. It's that was a bucket list kind of thing. Um because I don't know, it hasn't been that. I haven't been here that long. I haven't been doing this that long, and um, I don't know. Five years ago, I was living in Arkansas, has writing songs out of my house, you know. And um and so to go from there to have like the first taste of music that I have written and been a part of, like move people in that way, and just to like to see that coming back at me like full in the face in at an incredible decibel level. Um man, it it just like I had chills and and I got I got a little emotional walking off stage, and um and just like the flood of gratitude, the flood of holy crap, what is my life right now? And um, I don't know, man, it was. It was pretty unreal. I gonna tell you too. I didn't know that you wrote this new Justin Moore song. And I know Justin well because we're both died razorback fans. We played in the same conference in sports, like literally in the same conference. That's he's from Poe and from Mountain Pine and so poet and a football team, but we both had baseball teams, and so we were in the same conference at eleven schools and we both graduated with like sixty kids. You know, we're from a small town Arkansas. That's amazing. So I text Justin War's record came out and I was like, dude, this somebody Else Will song is really it's it's it's for him. It takes him to a whole different place that I was like, dude, is really good. And we were getting ready for this. It might each like like, you know, I don't know what somebody Else will. I did not know that I'm really truthful until I started like researching things about you that that I didn't know. But this Justin war song is really good and so I'm gonna play this here. This is Justin Warrison. I'm not good game. I heard this one the radio the day Have you heard this one yet? I finally heard it on the radio was draft the arts Sube to my parents house. It's started to climb, like it's started starting to get some life. Um So, Justin's my gut alright? Like, UM, I don't I don't know if you know. I don't know how much you researched on the front end of how I got to Nashville. But um, in two thousand eleven, I had I had made this record on my own back home in Arkansas. I had made it with uh with um my buddy Darren Stribbling. He owns a small studio called Blue Chair Studio and Cabin, Arkansas. And uh it's the I'm telling you, the best two thousand dollar record you could possibly make. And uh and and we did. We we we made this record. I was really excited about it. And and I was doing like a local morning TV show, which one channel, Good Morning Arkansas channel seven k TV. Yeah, yeah, that's home for me. Um and the most famous piano playing with every Christmas, he does a piano special and as tan as, I was on point and uh yeah, so so I was playing on Good Morning Arkansas and justin just happens happens to be at home in in uh in in. I guess he was living in Briant at the time. Uh happens to be at home. He sees me, and he's like he calls Jeremy Stover, his producer. Um, and he's like, hey, man, need to check this guy out. And and so and Stover is like like looking for young artists and writers to work with. And uh and and so Stover checks my music out, like he bought my record on iTunes. Fast forward two days. I'm sitting there just in my office. I was working at a college student ministry doing video and graphic design. I was sitting in my office and I get an email from Jeremy Stover and and he's like, hey, I want to come watch you play one of these shows. I'm thinking about catching a flight. Um. It's like I'm like I kind of thought it was like one of those my Space like pay you fifty dollars and get fifty thousand followers kind of thing, you know, like you never know and um, well you can buy some followers anywhere is so Arkansas you and I can say that is go ahead and lit my Arkansas. Um. But yeah, I thought it was like one of those kind of things you know, but it was not. And and so so I ended up just going up to meet with Stover and um, and yeah, he invited me for some co writes. That turned me making a trip a month for about a week at a time, and then a week drive it for a week at a time. And my job was flexible, um and like I could work from here and right during the day and like work at night and um, and so there was just a lot of things just like lined up in this incredible way. It was almost like I was just like swept to Nashville because during that time when I was making trips, um, that's when I got my first cut. It was with with Justin. It was a duet with Justin and Randa Lambert. As you're talking about, it's called old habits old habits at you make any money from a cut because because if you're in a publishing deal, oh get you doing it, Like record sales go toward recouping your advance, and the advance is what keeps you from having to have another job. And so I'll explain that to people are listening. So and on this before we talked about publishing deals because I don't. I didn't until I started writing songs, I didn't know what a publishing deal was. So I know people that listen don't. I didn't, and I was already in the music business. So let's say I moved to Nashville and I want to get paid forty grand a year as a publishing deal. You know, it's a tough one to go get, but they're gonna pay me forty tho dollars a year, and I'm gonna write all these songs have to meet my quota of songs. And let's just say they said you have to write ten songs. Okay, if you write it with another person, the only counts to half a song. If you're write it with two other people, that only counts is a third of the song. So by the time you're done, ten songs is really thirty or forty songs, and they're paying you forty grand. We'll stay here a year to write songs. By the way, usually not that much. It's not forty grand. I just get that number out there, right, So, so what any money that's made up to forty grand they keep, you gotta make that for to grand, you gonna make plus that to get any to get paid. So that's why I cut doesn't make you money, because you're not going to make your forty grand, your hypothetical forty grand from a cut. And and so no, that's that's that's a that's a solid that you know that that would be that would be a solid explanation that if you had just asked me, I would have a hard time putting that together in a way that would make anybody understanding I am a professional speaker out on that. Yes, yes, I'm told so you do this, and and obviously it's a cut, but they get a little money. It's gonna be exciting for you because you got a song on a record. Now you kidding me? Like that was? That was? Man? I thought I thought I had made it. And let me tell you why I thought I had made it, Because, um, I'm learning increasingly that just like being able to do music as a career and not have to have another job, is that is the definition of making it. In two thousand and seventeen, because because like everybody's margins are thin. But because I mean, I mean, like you talked about on that because I listen to your lucleared podcast, we're kind of talking about Spotify a little bit, just just a little bit um but like the streaming services and and all that stuff, Like everybody's trying to figure out how that is gonna work. Nobody knows, right, and and so while everybody's trying to figure out how to get paid, everybody's like really tight fisted and trying to um, I don't know. So so being able to do music and not have to have another job, being able to be creative full time and be in this business and I have another job, I mean to me, that is essentially the definition of making it. Everybody else who's who's buying mansions over here there and then they're in the top. It's the point of sleep number. I'm talking about sleep number one second, so you've heard me talking about my sleep number bed and how great I sleep and how much I love my bed. My sleep number setting is thirty. And that's the number that when I went into the store and I laid down on the bed, they said, okay, look at the computer screen. I look at the computer screen, ish on my back, show my neck, show my legs, and it shows you why you're sleeping wrong, basically because we're all doing something not right when we sleep. And they suggested that thirty would be the number that we would give you, and so that's what I did. I never had a change it since, so my sleep number is still the setting is still a thirty. It adjusts on each side to your I did a level of firmness, you comfort, your support. Your sleep number setting is the perfect bed for couples, and with the sleep i Q optional technology inside of it also tracts your sleep to let you know what's going on. So my sleep number setting is a thirty. My Q score last night I was on I didn't say my bed last night last week. The last time was in the nineties, so it's the best time right now too. And the semi annual sell at Queen's C two mattress is six five fifty stores nationwide. Find the one nearest you by calling eight hundred next bed. Cool, all right, So we talked about Justin Moore seeing you on television randomly, he tells his guy, his guy contacts you, his guy comes out and watches you. Thanks you good. He says, Hey, come to Nashville. Let's let's write. So you're coming out for a week at a time. How long until you go? Are you married at the time? Yes, okay. How long did you tell your take your wife? Hey, we have to move to Nashville? Um? Oh man once? Uh? Once okay, so once justin Moore cut that song. Um, there were there were a few months. It was. It was basically just had to do with how my deal was structured. We knew that if that if I got picked up for the second year of my deal, that's when they were actually gonna like invest a little money in me and like pay me a draw so that I could do this full time and um. And so that was kind of the point where we knew if we got picked up, if I got picked up for that second year, that we were going to move to Nashville. Um. It was easy for my wife. My wife is ah, my wife is a position physician assistant, and so she works in medicine. She makes good money and um there and so and so we knew because it was a big medical community. Uh, um, it would be easy for her to find a job. Also, her best friend in the world lives here. Her best friend from high school just happens a living. So we were making trips on the weekends, like randomly up to Nashville once every you know, couple of months to hang out. And it already kind of had started to feel a little bit like home even before we even came. And it was a really easy transition as far as just like feeling like a good, comfortable place for us. So so we've loved it. Man, it's been good. So justin or here's somebody will somebody else? Well again here and somebody else the same thing. Here is a work tape here, and is your singing here? Yeah? Yeah, this is the demo? Yeah, okay, so this is the original version that you cut. Is Adam Hammers singing Justin Moore's didn't it? Mack Jack straight? And were waking up the nerve and the worst safe to turn those eyes and that smile my way on time, the way because he showed have been all I saw you shine and I got in the knee. Did you write this for Justin? We we wrote We wrote it that day. We're like, let's just try and write the biggest freaking smash we can write and it was literally that that was that was the day that this isn't one of those like change the world kind of like Tom Douglas House That Built Me kind of situations. This is this is just like, let's let's write this pumping booty shaking you know, uh jam and that's really what we try to do. So when I heard Justin cut it, I was surprised Jess cut it. He's so traditional sounding, and first of all, you have to hear a song and I think, what can I do with this song? So he's hearing your voice and you know, all of that track and going how can I make this me? And he could try to make him most you can. It's still gonna sound a little bit like how you guys made it. And uh, I feel like Justic's got a little bit of blowback from like some up some of his die hard fans on this song because it leans kind of into the pop thing and um, but you but for one thing, Justin doesn't get enough credit for how good he actually is and how many hits he actually has, Like, um, people are way behind all the Justin More bandwagon. If you ask me, um, uh, he can he can do this kind of thing and sing his butt off man, and and and just the fact that it's like something different like will expand his his I don't know, reaching the people he wouldn't have normally listened to him. The slices of people that are angry at him is much smaller than the group of people just gonna come in because of this because radio brings it in. I feel like because even though he does this one little does does this one little foray into something that's a little more pop or a little more left leaning, like like that doesn't change who that guy is, Like he hasn't sold out, like and you know how every time I get so annoyed when the artist tries and moves that direction period and their whole fan base it's passed off because it's like, are you kidding? What do you want them to do? Continue to make the same record every single time, You'll get bored and buy something else, and they have nothing, have nothing. So here this is the uh, let's start from the beginning. Here is the work tape from the iPhone. If somebody else will be boxing, coming to sitting it, tripping back jack straight, working up the nether and the words to say it turn knows having this sna my way turn he shut have been all eyes on to shining like a diamond and knee on every guy. Here's to make a move. I've better make a move. Somebody asked with what asking your name right now? I'm from the bag in Jason, take your looks kids, somebody else a chance. That's really cool to hear that, and then to hear the demo, which is this somebody right now? And then how it ends up on the radio with Justin Moore singing if somebody else that's really cool, right my like to have all the levels, then that's that's a don't take a chance in your say. The only other person brave enough to give us his work case were dirksause Dirk's yeah yeah, and he was playing some and he wan't be playing hits. He's playing stuff that he was like, this stuff sucks. Listen to this and it's like I'm going my dog, so, oh my god, it's I do. I think it's really cool, Like I love seeing like ABC and now you have to singles out on the radio right now. But here's the thing about you too. What I heard about you before I even knew you were a songwriter. Was I heard about you as the r ist, like the guy that could sing really really well. And so when you sat down and played, I was like, holy crap, So here is this is you doing dangerously close as a song you wrote? Yeah, yeah, what's this from? Um? So I wrote this me and you with Fillmore Tyler Fillmore. Um we just we just somebody set us up to write last year. So last year to you, man, I don't remember. Um all the years of success, they'll start to blow together. Ye, my many years in Nashville. It was. It was two summers ago, that's what it was. And uh, and we we wrote this song, and um man, we just like we knew from the get go that we that it was good and we enjoyed it. And we then I put a demo down with some buddy Andrew. He kind of led the led the session and and then I guess this is this is this a demo? This is a demo, So so somebody can still picked the song up. Now we're talking here, let's make some deals. Brett Young had on hold for a minute and he wanted to cut up. He already had a song called close Are close Enough, That's what it was. There's dangerously close. Let's hear this dangerous, dangerous clone. So what you're doing, Like, are you you're writing songs? Let's say you get to pick one thing. You get to go sing songs or you get to sit and write songs. Which one do you pick? Oh? Man? Because they're not mutually exclusive. But I'm just wondering where, Like, I know your hearts in both of them. But did you come down to be an artist or you come down to write? Then to be an artist? Like, what's the ultimate goal? The ultimate goal? Keep it real, The ultimate goal is to be an artist. That's like, that's where I want to. I want to be in the in the performing. But if I if I had to pick like one or the other, like to do like what I'm best in the world at. Like you artist, you can say whatever you want, you can you want to be artist, but like, but you're good enough to be an artist. That's the thing. That's when I knew you first. I was like, this guy can really sings. That's that's that's awesome. Here's Adam doing still my Girl from one direction. Here you go. Everybody wants step she being Just think of you written that one? How rich you'd be Yeah, you'd be showing up to my house. Yeah. So another thing and before, Yeah I knew about you before, but you have written with my girlfriend a few times before she was even before Lindsay was my girlfriend. You've written with Lindsay. But her single is a song that you guys wrote together. So so waiting on you you guys, and this really has nothing to do with that, and it kind of goes off to the side, but yeah, you guys wrote that together. Yeah. Man, Look, I I love Lindsay. I think she is an awesome human being. I think she's superbly talented. I think I'm straight up being straight up. Um, we went on the we went on a bus run last year. Um because the publishing company that right for they sent out a tour bus ol A. They sent out a tour bus every pretty much every weekend of the summer, like during festival season, and it's just kind of an opportunity for their writers to write with different artists and um, and that was that was the first bus run I ever went on, was with Lindsay. And we wrote three songs that weekend I thought were really cool and um, and we just became good friends. We've written since then, and I'm really excited for the EP that she got to put out and now she's getting ready to turn that into a full record, which is really cool. Which I didn't say that, by the way, you did. Oh man, I didn't know. No, no, dude, And I say nothing, no, no, no, that's fine. I didn't know that was I didn't know that was a thing. It's not a thing. I just that you say whatever you want to say. I don't know. That's not dude. Please, no, no, it's all it's not a thing. I just didn't say that. You did. There we go. It's not a thing. So how did you hear it? Don't worry, Benny's not working over there? Really, So how did you tell the story about how you found out this one was a single? Because I was already in your life a little bit. Uh So, I'm I'm sitting there, I'm um, uh, I'm FaceTime with my grandmother. I got my daughter in my lap and I'm FaceTime with my grandmother. And I got text and said, hey, man, it's Bobby Bones. And I said, grandmother, got weird text, let you go, and so phone like So the actual response was the heck question mark how's it going, man? And he said, oh, Jen good and you said and you said, how not to doing great? Congratulations? I said, awesome, I really appreciate that, man. It's been really fun. And then you said do you have anything else on radio? And I said, yeah, man, I got the new Justin thing, and then I got the new Jacob Davi's thing, and and I kind of like cycled off like a couple of things, and and then h then you said watch your phone and said three two one, and Lindsey Teks said Waiting on You was my next single. I said yea, And I was like, oh man, that's awesome. And then I thought about this and I was like, he was just he was just messing with me. And then I gave him Cato whole entire catalog music, and I felt like a Google. It was. It was Linda and I were sitting at one of those heat steakhouses and they just decided it was actually gonna be the England. She's like, I don't you guys text and I was like, I know, I don't want mess with him. I'm I don't want to tell him because that's the herd thing. I was like, let mess with him a bit and I was like, what, dude, you good and You're like what huh the heck? Anyway, it was funny. So wait, what's the Jacob Davis stuff? Because I know Jacob So he has his song um that just went to radio a few weeks ago. It was called what I Want to Be and it's a jam. See That's what I'm saying, Like everybody's trying to are you let me ask you a question as I pull it up here, are you feeling people of more stature calling and saying, hey, let's write than you did eight months ago? Well, it's it's less of those people calling me be like hey let's write. It's more of like my my people calling those people and being like, hey get Adam rite with your guys, Like what's the guy going on? Like I's got this is okay? Yeah, sure you come come in. It's like like the bouncer at the whatever it takes. But you're still getting into bigger rooms. Yeah yeah. And that's and that's the cool thing about all this is like success really does breed success, um. And so so if you have one thing, uh, it kind of like opens the door for another, and and you have to keep you know, you just have to keep producing and keep you have to keep working hard, and um, honestly, right now is I feel it feels I feel a little bit of pressure because I've because I've never I've never had this sort of thing before, you know, so so it's kind of like it's kind of like, uh, I don't know hopping, I don't know rock climbing or something. And you you got your hand hold here, you know how not to hand hold here? And I got what somebody else will hand hold. Now I'm like looking for the next thing, like like how do I how do I keep it going? And but I know that's like not really a good way to look at it, because you can, you know, overthink and and kind of put yourself in a in a tough situation to not write your best stuff if you're always thinking about the business. And so the two best places to be they were nervous and pressure, because I mean it matters. Yeah, that's true, that's true. I'm gonna hold onto that little gym for you don't have that in a little journal, Mike. What happened up here with my my computers? I want to play the Jake Davis song and just disclosure. Jacob I know the same record label, and yeah, but me, Jacob Kelsey good people over there. Yeah and so and also also my boy Forest Whitehead. We write a lot we are. Forest and Jacob were my cur writers on this song. And also I didn't give Kelly and Kelly Archer and Auto their love on somebody else wield Um. We had fun writing that song that day. No, they don't. Everybody Kelly. Kelly just beat me out for an award I got. I got nominated for my first award last week. You did? What what award? Was that? A IMP Awards, Kanson Writer of Arkansas, Writer out of the Year. It was it was like the the Independent Association. Oh yeah, Walker and Caitlin Smith they storn on there and they dude, they they shut that place down. Yeah, there's like people. Yeah, Walker's out on me right now. His last show is actually this weekend. We've sent January til now, and so Walkers out and h he's going on towards Thomas right now. It's I'm taking Carly Pierce out. Yeah right, it's hey, listens normal graduation, Bobby stand up back to to Thomas Threats headliner. Also Carly Pierce man can we can we just like, can we just give a slow clap for that girl? Because I love the way that she's worked and and because she's she's kind of she's kind of been through the Nashville Ring a little bit and now seeing her like blowing things up is I love. I love watching her success from afar. Well, I hope everybody listening here's that. And if you don't think I'm funny, come watch her play at my shows and buy tickets would be good. So the song you wrote's called what I Don't Want to Be? Let me hear this thing. I already know what I'm acc like, I never heard let me let me let me hear this. Let me see if I think it's something any good or not Jamie Davis how what I Don't want to Be excuse me? Written by Adam comes another pick up, your shoot down, another what you're drinking from? Another cash me and grabbing account. But I'm gonna say no, no, that ain't my style. But I betty was U did? I could change your mind. I don't want to need another thing that you think about when you think about wrong you need to be and the reason that fall when you need another sad sad song I died, I know you don't need you were three singles right now. It's like this guy here would be careful. I have to pop my head to get me out of that door. Everybody home product you man, I hope so, I mean you hope. So you don't know, you don't feel like? Never text you like I listen to kissing any six I just heard. Yeah, I get I get those text a lot and I love those because, um, I love being I love being a an Arkansas flag waiver. Okay, Like like I like when people, um, when people can somehow like I know this is this might sound, I don't I don't know how this sounds. But I like it when when people feel like my success is somehow connected to them, um, because I think that's I don't know, those are those are my people. And there only a few others too, Like I got I bleed, man, I know that was that was one. That's one of the reasons that I've been a fan of yours from Afar as well. And um, I got to call the hogs on the field this year that you also had dinner at the Governor's mans. I was gonna governor. Yeah, can we can we talk about this? It was a real thing to where I was. I was genuinely considering it, but I'm in the middle of a contract. I can't bleed the contract. Governor Hudson was very kind, and I didn't feel like I had enough time to really to do it. So I think it may do it four years maybe, dude, that's red. I might. I will eventually, I will be the governor of Arkansas. So yeah, let's move back. Just vote. I'm like you like, I'm very proud of where I come from, and so I'm I was Arkansas born and raised and then Austin, Texas. Those are my two places. And then I've been three great places that and I get to go all over the country as from Boston. I love Boston, but it's too cold. I can never look like it's just too cold for me. I love Boston. So I also, you know, um, I get some flaks sometimes. I don't actually wear my Mississippi on my sleeve enough because because I actually did most of my like growing up, so like from when I was like nine eighteen, I lived in Corinth, Mississippi, and uh, and so those people also got in my heart too. But but Arkansas. That's where my family's originally from, and that's where I so I spent most of my life and so like, if I had to pick one, like Arkansas is more home, but Mississippi. Also, I love you guys too. We're talking about Blue Apron for a second. So not all ingredients are created equal. 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I mean it was the most bluebird thing, like you's supposed to be all serious. Me, I'm geeking out. I'm in the blue bird and I got my I'm recording because Eric passed line. I was sitting acrossrom each other and Adam was to my right, and so I took the one I'm recording. I'm seeing how not? I played it on the air the next day and your sister heard it. My sister heard and she freaked out, freaked out. Okay, She's like called me, like, did you know aboudy both way you on the radio? Was like I do, now that's all. I might have went back and I caught the podcast recap with that that day, because that might be just that vain. That's funny. Now, that's good. I'm happy for you, man, that's really cool. Man, it's been it's been a lot of fun. I'm I'm just trying to I'm trying to keep getting better every day because there's that dude, that's the that's the thing. There's there are so many good people who have who just haven't. It just hasn't happened for yet, and so um like there's always somebody learned from there's always somebody to be blown away by, and there's always there's always room to get better and um and and I don't have any delusions that like I'm at a place where well, I've made it and you know now it's just like everything is just gonna come to me. Like I don't know you did that podcast Luke Layered, Like Luke Layers on my bucket list of people to write with, because I think he's a really wise dude. Not I hope, you know, one day to be at that kind of level where I've had that kind of success, but I've also got that kind of wisdom to kind of you know, share. And the Luke Layer stuff to me was crazy because he went right with wrote with Snoop with a few sure, like he's writing country as long as and he hops over to l a and or Atlanta and it's just writing hip hop souf. And you know, for me, I'm just such a music fan period, like all, I don't care what genre it is. I love country music because of how I grew up where I grew up, But I had a hip hop record deal at one point. You know, I was gonna ask you about that too, because because you mentioned that previously, but it's not it's not a thing, like it's not a thing where you have to pick a side. I gets so annoyed people wanted to pick sides all the time, Like this is people in our format. People try to keep people out all the time, like you're not part of and we should be finding people that are like don't have a place, they're just fantastic and bringing them in and so, yeah, looks looks cool. That's good. Well, dude, I hope you hit number one. I got a good feeling about this. Dani Shay about to have first top five and a couple of weeks with the song, then will it hit one? That would be the question would be the question. Here was the demo set good, bad, wind a Spade and that, And I do think once you finally put a fresh record, we'll have you back. We'll talk about you as the artist, because that's because that's gonna happen to you. And I hope, so, I hope. So that would be really cool. Well, I appreciate you being here. Have a good time. I feel like I did. I didn't have a good time about it. I feel like you did. Got a bit of bad I don't know. I'm hard of myself. Bro, you did guys, thankful, you did good. But don't listen back. Yeah, I don't worry. I did play on all right, what's your what's your Twitter? Just Adam, but you don't tweet. I looked at your Twitter of today. I tweet out town this almost like two weeks ago. That's not true, that's not true. Maybe I just saw your pen tweet. Maybe so maybe it was that pan tweet will get you sometimes because you'll look at it be like December, you're like, oh, pintweet, that's the all time favorite. But you gotta sometimes you gotta redo it and repent it. Some people don't think you're just leaving your count dead. It's a good point. I make a lot of this. But then your journal point number two. Alright, by episode of this, Mike, all right, this episode fifty nine. I'm good to see thanks for really alright, And everybody download all of his music and make him rich to he wants to buy a house. True, that's true. Alright, We'll see you next time.