Pod Meets WrestleMania: CM Punk

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Speaker 1: No need to drag this one out. Guys.

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Speaker 2: He's the main event, the WWE champion, and if God is good, he'll stay that way after this weekend's match with one Roman reigns.

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Speaker 1: He's the most exciting.

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Speaker 2: Superstar in sports entertainment and the man putting butts in seats. Tell me what I'm telling lies. Welcome to Pod meets World. The best in the world, Cmpunk.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, just for me. You can drag it out if you.

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Speaker 2: Want to, just keep going, you can keep going.

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Speaker 4: Your partners is like ten minutes long.

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Speaker 3: For the record, Yes, yeah, I believe.

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Speaker 2: I believe that she's incredible, But I don't have to tell you that. This is very exciting for us. It's exciting for me to thank you so much for doing this. We know WrestleMania Weekend for cmpunk is a real dog and pony show, so we know that how hard it was to get you here.

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Speaker 1: So thank you.

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Speaker 2: Let's get right into the big match. This weekend main event in WrestleMania has been a big part of your story forever, and this will now be the first time you're one on one to close the whole weekend out. I mean last year was cool. Let's be honest here this is the main event now, so no way around it.

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Speaker 1: Are you feeling any pressure?

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Speaker 3: It's always the main event when I'm in it, That's right. I feel like I'm supposed to say that, but no, it's going to be a different, new experience. It's a new adventure I haven't gone on yet. Yeah, so I'm looking very forward to it. It's going to be fun.

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Speaker 2: And is there any additional pressure? Do you always feel pressure? Do you never feel pressure?

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Speaker 5: No?

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Speaker 3: I feel it, but it's more it's it's situational and it's more based on like who I am and what I am to the business now, you know, I think anytime you're under those bright lights and you're thrust in that kind of a position, uh, there's there's pressure. And if you don't feel it, I don't know, maybe time to time to pack it in. But there's always going to be what I call anticipatory anxiety. Yeah, you know, but that doesn't mean I don't feel like I don't belong here, like this is pardon my language, it's about fucking time.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll say, I'll say.

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Speaker 4: Do you have to ask you you when when you do feel the the the I wouldn't even say jitters, just the anticipatory anxiety. Do you use it? Is it fuel?

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Speaker 3: One hundred? Yeah, there's a there's a way to you know, make those butterflies fly in formation and like use anything you're feeling, like especially the week of a WrestleMania, because we're doing so much, the schedules so packed, and you're being pulled in a million different directions and it's hard to lose your head. So it's important to kind of use all that what you're feeling and realize that like you can kind of tap into that as an artist and use that to convey any kind of story you're trying to tell in the ring on the night.

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Speaker 2: So there's the lead up to this event has been intense, and there has been so much praise for what people are calling pipe Bomb two. Let's clear it up here. They didn't know everything you're going to say, right.

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Speaker 3: I can confidently say that they never know everything I'm going to say. You know, in our weird, wild world, you know, like you have producers and people who are you know, like people who work with you. Some people are written things, other people are given bullet points, and other people they kind of cross their fingers and say please don't get us thrown off the air. You know, I'm in between there somewhere. Yeah, they did not know everything else.

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Speaker 4: Did you know what you were going to say or did you just come out in the moment.

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Speaker 3: I knew there were some things that I had to address, and I had to just tell myself to not.

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Speaker 1: Swear right, okay.

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Speaker 3: And I think I I think I said bitch, and I still didn't even want to do that, But sometimes you're you're in the pocket. My thing was don't drop f BOMs right right, And thankfully I didn't do that.

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Speaker 4: So Yeah, Danielle says that every podcast to herself.

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Speaker 3: I was I was the press, the precipice. You know you're not trying to not trying to get an FCC. Fine, no you don't.

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Speaker 1: You don't want that.

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Speaker 2: It wasn't just the new pipe bomb blurring the lines between storyline and reality, because I think most of the WWE universe has sensed that there's really no love loss between you and Roman, even outside the ring. Considering you hadn't really seen him in ten years. What do you think crawled up his ass and died in that decade?

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Speaker 1: Why do you think it is like.

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Speaker 3: At least eight WrestleMania main events.

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Speaker 2: Died.

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Speaker 3: Uh huh, Yeah, no, I don't know. You know, I wasn't put on this earth to you know, just get along with people. I'm a nice guy until I don't have to be, and some people just aren't meant to, you know, be in a room together. I say it all the time, and I pardon my language, Can I swear on this? This is the ship talk business. Yeah, you know, this is a this is a super fight between two guys that we don't we don't like each other. I don't think. I don't think that's a secret. You know, we're both we're both professionals, and we're we're trying to get to the show in one piece, you know, and we still got a day where anything can happen.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Do you come to address a fight differently when you don't like your opponent than you do if you like and respect your opponent or.

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Speaker 3: Is it all just on the day it's work? I think on the day it's work. You know. I talk to a lot of different athletes, like, even if you line up you're on the offensive or defensive line in a football game, you know, you line up and you know this person. You maybe play college ball with them, or your kids kids playing the park together, or something like that. Like there's no friends when the whistle blows, when the bell rings, uh, you know, friendship goes out the window a lot of the times. And it's almost more like a relaxed atmosphere because I don't have to let go of anything. I don't have to, you know, be like, hey, I don't have to apologize before or after. It's just right, It's going to be what it's going to be.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I know.

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Speaker 2: It seems so much scarier though, when your physical body is so so in so in there.

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Speaker 1: You know, we don't we don't have to deal with that.

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Speaker 2: We maybe you don't get along too well with an actor, you know, a fellow actor, and or if when you're mentioning football on the offensive line or the defensive line, but you're not usually playing them week after week after week, seeing them day after day. If you had to pick one superstar to replace his voice as the other Zebro, who would you pick? We could make some calls. Will could do it. Will does voice work?

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Speaker 3: You know, I think the entire situation is hilarious, so it's almost it's almost perfect. The way it is, because who'd have drew that up? Right? Like, who'd have thought? But anybody, anybody else? What would the voice be? So they were I'd have a longer list of people I would not want to replace him, Okay, yeah, like because you know, it's just like at that point, you know, pick one, like somebody, somebody will say, oh, replace him with Seth No, thank you, yeah, lesser of two evils. Maybe I don't know. I I think we need to we need a z I don't know, what do you what would be the female connotation of.

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Speaker 1: Zbro right, the zebra, Zebra, the zebra.

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Speaker 3: And I think I think you and April are We're the Zebra's gonna have Zuotopia three. Give us a call, you know, for better or worse.

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Speaker 2: Netflix's Unreal pulled back the curtains on the business, and one thing it really did for fans was show them the executive side of Triple H. You guys have had your ups and downs, but it really seems like there's a level of trust in you now, and he's been very vocal about how important you are to the company. So I know that this is a loaded question for CMPO, but do you feel respected?

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Speaker 3: I do. Yeah, and I you know, if you want to do like a after Hours pod Mets World Therapy podcast, could probably talk about a lot of things that I think, But I really honestly think it boiled down to we were main roster talent, we were competition with each other, yeah, and I think everything kind of just stemmed from that. And when he went from main roster talent, main event superstar to all of a sudden, he's my boss, right, you know, he really couldn't tell me anything. It'd be like if all of a sudden, I overnight I was office and I had to tell Seth something. I'm sure he would have feelings.

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Speaker 1: About that, right, you know.

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Speaker 3: It's like a it's a power dynamic, you know, because in a lot of ways me and him are very similar, you know, and things are different now. And do I feel respected, Yes, I do good. And I also would like to say that I would not want his job. A lot of people are always talking about like, oh, what does the future of WWE creative look like? And I see what he does, and to me, he's less pro wrestling booker than he is like sports team manager. He has to manage all of our egos, you know, and he has to kind of deal with these these personalities and stuff like that, and like you know that that's that's his job, is to see like what he can get out of the person in the best situation for them. I mean we see it all the time, like a lot of people butt heads and stuff like that. And I think he has to He's got to wear so many different hats. It's not just I'm a genius booker and this person's going to wrestle this person and it's that easy. You know. He looks at the landscape of things and you know, from developmental talent all to the way to the top, and he I think does a great job of it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Well, it's the personalities that sells it too, isn't it. I And that's the things that's what you the layers that go into professional wrestling. I'm new to the world. Daniel brought us in and to see the different layers of the athleticism and the rivalries that go on and the things that are happening in the ring but also outside the ring, and then you call them ego, but that's what people want to see. So it's like trying to wrangle all of that has got to be pretty incredible inside the ring and outside of the ring, it's.

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Speaker 3: Going to be amazing.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's got to be nuts.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Wow.

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Speaker 2: I also want to give you the opportunity to your own horn a little bit here, because I want to know, in what way do you think you have matured in the last five years that have allowed this run that you're having now to happen.

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Speaker 3: God, you know, this is a this is a quote. You should have asked this of my wife. I contrary to popular belief, and you know, maybe there's a little bit of hypocrisy here, but I I don't enjoy talking about myself, you know, Like, but how I've matured, man, I just in not a flippant way. There's there's a lot more things I could care less about. I'm just like, okay, yeah, I get it. You know, the most important thing to me in the world is my wife. And she's been on a great run and as long as she's stoked, like to me, everything else is gravy. So but she has taught me to be like just just her and marriage has just taught me overall to be more patient. You know, I can sense when I've had a low carbon day and I'm crabby, I haven't had my coffee yet, and it's just like, okay, say less. Yeah, you know, I maybe try to observe more. And how I've grown just in the last five years, let alone ten. Yeah, like, this business is weird, and I was always very protective of it, and maybe at times took it too seriously, and maybe at times took myself too seriously. But also it's what made CM punk so great. So there's no regrets to anything. But yeah, like in certain situations now, being older, I think of what you know, two thousand and ten cmpunk would do, and I'd be like, yeah, you're a little too old for that. Let's let's just try to forget some things, just keep it moving well.

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Speaker 2: Similarly, aj said that she twen talking a little bit about her bipolar disorder. She was saying that she really learned to see both the positive and the negative sides of it. She said she sometimes is a little delusional in the things that she's capable of, and yet she's grateful for that because all of those things are the reasons.

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Speaker 4: It's a superpower's.

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Speaker 2: And it's kind of what along the same lines of what you're thinking, dreams, so big.

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Speaker 3: It scares you, like, oh, what have I done? Well? I got to do this now I've done that my entire life.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, do you think the the person you are now is a better wrestler than the person you were in twenty ten?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? I think I'm the best I've ever been, you know. And it's just because I'm in the I'm in the pocket, I stay in the moment. I'm not necessarily I'll throw homages to the past with like a ring jacket or a song or you know, a move or something here and there. And I'm not worried about the future. Like it's it's like now, like there's just there's just something about I don't know, I'm comfortable in my skin. There's something about old man punk that is like fascinating to me. And it's a much deeper and rich story instead of just like the brash loud mouth who says he's the best in the world, and now there's like layers to it. It's like this old gunslinger who's forced to go dig up his six shooters and you know, do they still shoot straight? That kind of thing, And you know, there's an element to that story that I'm telling that I really really love.

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Speaker 2: What do you think is the best part about coming back? And then the flip side, what is the worst part about coming back?

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Speaker 3: The best part about coming back is that I was able to share great moments with my wife, you know, but that doesn't happen if she doesn't come back. So just strictly like me coming back, just being around the business and being around the boys and the girls, like just in the locker room. The camaraderie is like the big thing. Would have told you day one after I left, what do you miss? I missed the locker room, right, you know, because we are definitely a family unit. You know, some of us hate each other. Yeah, some of us are really really close. It's like Thanksgiving dinner, you know what I mean. It's like you got the cousins over there that you don't like. You know, you got your cousins that you haven't seen in a while. That's the best thing. The worst thing, I mean, I sound like such a googer. The worst thing is I was on the road again, so I'd have to leave my wife and my dog frequently, and that that really sucked.

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Speaker 4: She said the same thing. Yeah, he said the same thing, said one of you always had to be with the dog. Totally understand that myself.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I spent more money and the I r S already knows about it. So I spent more money on jets the one year just to fly Larry and like people are like, oh, you're crazy, and I'm like, well, this makes perfect sense to me, you know, like this, you know, like she's shooting a TV show or she's off doing writing thing or you know, and I got to go here, and then I got to go to Atlanta to shoot a TV show, Like, well, little Bob's got to come with me.

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Speaker 1: Because you know, right, he's not going to be home alone.

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Speaker 4: You got to be a dog owner to understand that.

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Speaker 1: I know you, Larry is was really your son?

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Speaker 3: He was, Yeah, yeah, that's all it works.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: The night you did return, I think a lot of people refer to it as hell freezing over. One of the most electric nights in WWE history. If you ask me, the arena was blocks away from your house. You're texting with us myself and Jensen during raw and you're still on your couch. Then bam you have to rush to get there. How down to the wire was that whole thing completed?

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Speaker 1: I mean it was minutes.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it really was. I was told, well, if you don't mind, just drive. I always call it the Roseman Horizon. It's it's been renamed for over decades now it's the All State Arena. But like, yep, you know Howard Finkel is still in my ear the Roseman Horizon. Uh. It was well, hey, uh, if this doesn't happen tonight, we'll work on it for raw, but just in case it does happen, do you want to drive there? And just so I basically d I drove there and I just sat in my car unbelievable, unbelievable, which is also funny because you know they have they're on duty. They have Chicago cops posted at the back back of the house. And so I pulled up and the cops are like what is this? And I rolled a window down and the one cop was just like, oh, and I just did one of these, and he was like yeah, and you like wave me in. No words were spoken, wow, you know what I mean? Like, and and I just I pulled up and I was sitting outside in my car and the satellite truck was like right next door to me, and Steve Austin's giant face is on it. So I was like, I took a picture of it, sent it to Steve and he.

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Speaker 4: Was immediately like, wait a second, that was.

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Speaker 3: Going on kid?

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Speaker 2: You know I think everyone assumes that had been planned four weeks.

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Speaker 3: No, no, now, I did put it to put in perspective. I had a great conversation. Nick con calls me and he was like, I am assuming that you have like a no compete. We want to talk to you about, you know, maybe Royal rumble if your deal is up by then. And I just went, oh, I don't. I don't have a no compete and he went excuse me, and I said no, I don't know, and there's there's no non compete dead silence, and he was just like, okay, this changes things. Let me let me call you back. And I was like, all right, all right, cool geez yeah his magic, yeah magic. This is this is why people ask me all the time do you regret leaving for ten years? And I say absolutely not. I had I had to go, yeah, I wouldn't be here right now. But I cannot state that enough. It gets understated and it's turned into the old the Vince talking Trump or he took his ball and he went home, right like, yeah, all right, all right, pale, Like I took my health into my own hands and I went home and its snowballed and it turned ugly, you know, because he is who he is and I am who I am, you know, And do I regret those ten years? What could have been? Oh you would have made if you would have hung on another year, you would have made evented in the infection I had would have killed me, right, you know what I mean? So like I did the right thing. I got married and I had ten great years with my wife outside of the business, which is a very hard business to be in if you are married, and then you.

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Speaker 1: Know, back and better than ever.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, then the magic happened and the planets aligned and it made sense to go back.

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Speaker 4: With your wife too, which is like the coolest thing in the world, I mean the best. If if she wrote a screenplay this, people would be like, oh, come on this.

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Speaker 3: There's t shirts with both of us on it. I just I just signed a bunch of the cards for tops. We did like a one of one. We're both on the card. I mean, my Larry's got merchandise Like it's it's really been this like otherworldly, priceless thing, you know, like it's been it's been amazing.

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Speaker 2: We know very much with that. We do, yeah, you know we can, we can relate to. That was the plan when you came back, always to wear a white shirt and jeans. I when I see it now, like something feels off about it.

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Speaker 1: But I don't know what took.

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Speaker 4: He had to run to the to the stadium. He had no time to change and what do you.

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Speaker 3: What do you think?

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Speaker 4: He is in his car? Like shit, him and jeans and a T shirt. I got to go in now.

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Speaker 3: That was that was That was an April call. It was literally just like, well I wear you know, do I do I wear an old T shirt?

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Speaker 1: Huh?

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Speaker 3: Will that influence any new merchandise?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: And then I was just like, no, do you like when I wear a white T shirt? I'm gonna wear a white T shirt? That's great? Yeah. Literally, I mean you can't really put too much thought into it because it was a thing that very much might not have happened. Yeah, So I wasn't going to get all dressed up and like, you know, I got like one of those you know, like eighteen hundred dollars, denim jacket on for no reason.

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Speaker 1: You know, it doesn't happen. You just go back home.

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Speaker 3: No, this is what you get. This is what you get. You get a punk rack kid from Chicago and a white T shirt and a bad haircut.

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Speaker 4: This is though, Oh god, it worked so well though.

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Speaker 2: So much of your career has been battling what I, as your friend, would call misjudgments. If you could clear up one thing about yourself, what would it be? I know you don't care.

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Speaker 3: Fuck them, you know.

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Speaker 1: You don't wear you don't care.

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Speaker 3: There might be specific instances where people have told eyes that have turned into like this big crazy lore about me and stuff like that, and then I just go right right, you know, believe believe everything you hear about me, and then and then make some ship up too because everybody else does, and we're good.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Now, were you always like that? Or did you come to the point of your life of not giving a ship what anybody said?

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Speaker 1: Will's asking for himself?

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Speaker 4: Will I just got.

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Speaker 3: Getting answer? Yeah, I don't. I don't care like I I again, sound like a complete googer, But a lot of the things boil down to you could go on Twitter, social media like whatever, and scroll through and you can find like the worst thing said about me, and I'll go, did my wife say that? Right? No?

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Speaker 4: What do I care?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, yeah, I got fucked up teeth. And you know, people the thing about uh I read one time they're like, oh, he's going bald, and I was like, Okay, that's not even.

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Speaker 4: Close to accurate.

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Speaker 3: But I'm not I'm not trying to defend that. I don't know what. Maybe maybe you're going blind. Maybe it's a tumptous time. I don't know, uh no, but I I think I mean, you guys have to be able to relate. It's just like it's it's being in that public eye. It's being in the zeitgeist and people do and say weird shit when it regards you. You know, like it's just it's just something that you learn very early to live with or it'll it'll eat you alive.

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Speaker 1: Yes, that's the hard part is that the misconcept.

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Speaker 2: I think the things what if somebody said something about me that I don't like but that I recognize is like true, it's easier for me to go, yeah, that's that's true. I kind I was a bitch that day, and all right, I'm going to take it.

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Speaker 1: It's the misjudgments. It's the things that, like you say, yeah.

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Speaker 2: Somebody says something that isn't true then grows, infesters and turns into lore that is hard than.

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Speaker 4: To be like it, and it's like, are jumping and no, that's ridiculous. I'm not married to that. And it's like, wait what They're just making ship up.

00:25:12
Speaker 1: I know, and that's the part that I try to admire.

00:25:14
Speaker 2: So yeah, it's just like, my wife didn't say it, and it's not my friend.

00:25:20
Speaker 1: Who knows me. If they didn't say it, then what do I care.

00:25:25
Speaker 4: If Punk's wife didn't say it about me, I'm not going to care exactly.

00:25:28
Speaker 3: I'm not worried about it.

00:25:29
Speaker 4: That's all.

00:25:33
Speaker 1: I do.

00:25:33
Speaker 2: Want everyone to know how important your friendship has been to our family. Our kids picked a picture that they took with you for our holiday card.

00:25:43
Speaker 1: Everyone got a picture of you.

00:25:48
Speaker 3: I love it so much.

00:25:50
Speaker 1: You got Christmas card. We're like, hey, I made the family.

00:25:53
Speaker 3: Christmas showed up in my mailbox, like, oh my god.

00:26:01
Speaker 2: But I do also think it's a good point to mention that you thought it would be a good story point for brown Breaker to spear me so we have both sides.

00:26:10
Speaker 4: What are those words?

00:26:11
Speaker 3: There's still time I and you just ruined it.

00:26:14
Speaker 1: What a ruined like a literal tackle, spear like?

00:26:19
Speaker 4: Oh, like a spear like football?

00:26:20
Speaker 1: Yeah?

00:26:21
Speaker 4: Okay, oh all.

00:26:22
Speaker 1: Right, yeah, well do it.

00:26:24
Speaker 3: You're in the spirit of trying to make people hate somebody, but it's twenty twenty six. I think it would make him a wild babyface.

00:26:30
Speaker 4: Yeah, but it's you.

00:26:32
Speaker 3: So I'm kind of on the fence about it.

00:26:33
Speaker 4: You know.

00:26:34
Speaker 3: The people might be like, how could you.

00:26:36
Speaker 4: Do that national treasure? Yeah, you can't hurt Tapanga. It's a national treasure right here. You can't do it. I have a question now I'm going to jump into my nerddom please please, because I was just talking to you to your lovely wife Colors you play in Magic and why.

00:27:07
Speaker 3: I haven't played Magic in a very very long time. I'm gonna say I got in on the ground floor, like I was some sort of an angel investor.

00:27:15
Speaker 4: Or something like that.

00:27:16
Speaker 3: That's not true. I think when I was like fifteen. I think that game came out, Yeah, because we had beta decks. That's how long ago we were playing. Yeah, I had a beta deck too. Okay, I think I was uh and I won't remember the names of the matter. I was black and green.

00:27:30
Speaker 4: Oh okay, wow, okay, yeah interesting white.

00:27:34
Speaker 3: Just what was it? What was the big What was the hot card that I had? I think I had a Force of Nature.

00:27:39
Speaker 4: Oh, good card, I think I remember, Like they're illegal, God, you can't. There's certain cards that you're not allowed to use anymore. They're too powerful that you can't the rules. So they're like that card you go rules and Wizards of the Coast.

00:27:51
Speaker 3: Now he's faster.

00:27:52
Speaker 4: I know there's certain cards you can't use, or you can only have one in the deck or interest stuff.

00:27:56
Speaker 3: I remember, like I remember like being exploiting, like Plague of Rats.

00:28:00
Speaker 4: You were one of those guys who you just hit for one every time, but you'd have fifty of them ount and you couldn't kill them no matter what you did.

00:28:06
Speaker 3: Yeah, I played. It was a good still got it. You don't have to tip for four times. Angel isn't canceled. But no Force the Nature.

00:28:14
Speaker 4: Exactly, Sarah Angel. You didn't have to tap to attack. That's why she was such a great guard. Yeah.

00:28:18
Speaker 3: Man, I recently just watched the documentary and wid Coast and it made me go, man, I gotta I gotta go back to Chicago and I gotta find my car.

00:28:26
Speaker 4: Oh if you still have the original ones, they're great.

00:28:29
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh yeah, I know I still have some.

00:28:32
Speaker 4: So we're setting up a one shot so your wife can finally play D and D. Okay, so we're gonna be playing in La. My friends are gonna come, My friends are. She's very big fans of my friends who started something called Critical Roles.

00:28:42
Speaker 3: I know. So this is a glimpse into our household. If you were just to walk through the door on any given day, I'll walk in and there'll be a YouTube show on the TV and it's just like people sitting there, like talking, and I stare at it for a second and I'm I'm like, what is this? And she's like D and D Philip only person allowed to call me that. Okay, by the way, And then every other day was she's out and I got the TV on. She walks in and she goes, you're watching Heat again, such.

00:29:18
Speaker 4: A good movie.

00:29:19
Speaker 3: That I always make the joke like she's like, can we watch a program? And I'll be like, now, I'll never know how it ends.

00:29:28
Speaker 2: There's been so much talk this past Weekend about celebrities in wrestling, the good and the bad. Let's flip it though, which WWE superstar who is yet to make the transition to Hollywood should be the next to get cast in a movie.

00:29:46
Speaker 3: This is how I've grown over the last five years, Danielle. Okay, the self editing I just did in my head. The rolodex I just flipped through of people whose names aren't even worthy of me speaking, but to make the joke that I would pick them so they would go.

00:30:07
Speaker 4: There, go make movies, make movies.

00:30:11
Speaker 3: You know, like, yeah, you know, maybe he'll be the next Syvester Stallone get out here. Maybe I'm biased, Maybe you'll be surprised at this answer thing. Maybe a lot of people won't be Dan Housen. And I'm not talking like I want to see him in a in a drama. I want to see him in a procedural cop show. No, I want like Pee Wee's Big Adventure. Yes, like Dan Housen ninety minutes in and out, wacky, insane, funny. Yes, Yes, let's.

00:30:52
Speaker 2: Get you a capital on that project. I mean, yes, I don't know, I got nothing.

00:30:58
Speaker 3: I got nothing to do with him.

00:31:00
Speaker 2: Well, he is a very good but also very evil friend of yours. And he has truly taken the WWE by storm in just a few weeks of being here. Can you tell us about what role, if any, you had in getting him into the WWE and through selling millions of T shirts or.

00:31:21
Speaker 3: So, I've helped out a lot of people in wrestling. Sometimes it bites me in the ass, right, I never do anything with any kind of expectation attached to it. Like to me, it's always like, if you're good and you're talented, yeah, and if I can somehow help platform you, I'm going to do it. I've famously done this throughout my entire career. You know, some people it it made them resent me almost for helping them.

00:31:56
Speaker 4: That's weird.

00:31:57
Speaker 1: Egos or egos.

00:31:58
Speaker 3: Are like, it's a weird thing, you know. So I almost don't like, I almost don't like talking about it like that, that that kid stands on his own. If I was somebody who just pointed somebody in the right direction and said, yeah, this is the somebody else is missing out on this and get it and uh but you know, but to me, I I I think pro wrestling and not that, not that I'm a booker, but I have a pro wrestling booker brain. That's evident. I can't lie about that. I wish I could shut it off. I really really do. I wake up in the middle of the night and I grabbed my phone and I text myself ideas for promos for other stuff for other people. It's just something that I've always done and something I also have always done. Is completely lose my train of thought, Like I just talking about Dan Housen.

00:32:56
Speaker 2: Yeah, but that brain, by the way, is I said, you need to be a capital P producer, Like that's what producers do.

00:33:03
Speaker 1: They come up with ideas, Like it sounds like.

00:33:05
Speaker 3: A big ass headache, you know what I mean? Like I don't, I don't know, and.

00:33:09
Speaker 4: Will make an associate producer. You won't have to do anything.

00:33:12
Speaker 1: No one knows what they do.

00:33:14
Speaker 3: It's like real knows me. I can if I can help anybody, Like, but I just think it helps, it helps everything. I think it helps the product. I think his presence is good. I think there's other people that This is what I was going to say. Bookers throughout wrestling history have essentially always just kind of booked what they like. Yeah, the smart bookers will see something catch on that maybe isn't their cup of tea and go, well, it doesn't matter what I want, that's what they want. Dan Housen is just somebody that I enjoy. Like I grew up in Chicago. I grew up on SPENGOULI, I grew up on campy horror movies and Elvira and like kind of Plan nine from out Space, like Edwood schlock films and stuff like that, and like this is just kind of like a marriage of that in pro wrestling. What's not to love? You know? So now I will not cannot take any kind of credit for him or anybody else's success, if you know, just maybe they'll sell you nice things about me when I'm dead.

00:34:21
Speaker 1: Yeah.

00:34:22
Speaker 4: So, with the wrestling mind that you so clearly have, what do you think the future of professional wrestling is?

00:34:28
Speaker 3: I think the future of professional wrestling is the past. I think old school, fundamental pro wrestling still works. I think sometimes we're stepping on our own dick to do stuff. I understand the entertainment aspect of it. I understand trying to get more eyeballs and fill seats and all that other stuff. But when it comes down to it, when it's done right, and it's done old school. It's two people who have a personal problem and you got to get to club. That's what it is. You know, sometimes we lose sight of that. Sometimes we do too much, sometimes we don't do enough. But it's also it's a lot of trial and error. You know, everyone's complaining about the celebrities and wrestling and stuff like that, and that kind of I'm bewildered by that, right because I don't think it's celebrity involvement. I think it's you know, maybe poor quality celebrity involvement. You know, the first WrestleMania, the foundation. Liberachi was at the first wrestlem I mean it was like Liberachi, who's the who's the coach of the Yankees? Was Billy Martin. Hilly Martin's there, you know, like Muhammad Ali, mister t Like this has been the foundation of a lot of pro wrestling, even going back like Memphis, Andy Kaufman, that's still it holds up. It's some of the most amazing not just pro wrestling but television. Like you watch that and you'll be like this is crazy, and you need the context of knowing who Andy Kaufman was at that moment in time. Right, Like you're talking about the number one television star movie like he was it and he's going to the Mid South Coliseum in Memphis and doing spot shows in Louisville, Kentucky wrestling women to start with that man just damn near starting riots, yeah, and bringing that and it's on the David Letterman Show. So it's always We've always tried to want to capture that, like, oh, the David Letterman thing, and you know, like getting eyeballs on the product. It is an important thing. But I think there's a there's a nuanced way to do it instead of just beating people over the head with Oh, this person's a pop star, now, okay, great, here we go. Oh you have a YouTube show? Okay, great, here we go. I see the good and the bad in all of it. You know, sometimes it's not what I would do, but it's not my company.

00:37:04
Speaker 1: Right right. And you already said you don't want that job.

00:37:08
Speaker 3: Could you imagine what a thankless job it really is.

00:37:12
Speaker 4: I'm curious with the insane physicality that's taking place now in the world of wrestling watching the matches. Do you ever get nervous watching your wife wrestle?

00:37:22
Speaker 3: It's it's weird. I do, and I don't. I think she's so good. I think the last match I saw or have I think was with with Bailey. And what's stressful about it is being on a show the same time as her. So I got my work to do and I really just kind of want to stop everything and watch, you know, and it's hard to do. So I'm working on something and I'm doing this and then I look up and I'm like, I missed, I missed something. Is she is? She okay? You know right, I'm texting on her. I missed it, Okay, I don't know. She looks like I don't know if she yeah, you know, And he'll text me back like, yeah, she's selling right, she's away. Yeah, but I you know, like, because that's how good she is, she gets me. Yeah, I'm like, oh, and then she comes back and s hi, you know. But she's such a pro and I know how tough she is. So it's just like not a lot of not a lot of stuff really like bugs me. You know. I don't. I don't worry. I think, Yeah, have you.

00:38:28
Speaker 4: Ever stabbed anybody?

00:38:30
Speaker 1: Because we heard she did at thirteen.

00:38:32
Speaker 4: At thirteen, she told us that story of having to stab the guy in the hand. Yeah, it's crazy.

00:38:37
Speaker 3: Yeah what year is it? Somebody google the Statute of Limitations. That story was nuts.

00:38:47
Speaker 4: I can't get over that.

00:38:48
Speaker 2: I got to answer the question you never sab anybody to wait for some information. Going back to Down Down Housen for a second, what did you have any advice for him before his his debut and then after his debut? What did you say to him? What were your conversations before and after?

00:39:13
Speaker 3: Not just for him, I think for anybody. The debuts on, Like the main roster has like a moment, and we have a couple coming up. There's a couple of first time WrestleMania, you know kids, And I always tell them like, hey man, like it was yesterday when I had my first WrestleMania, you know. So like try to learn the ability of slowing time down. You can't stop it. But walk out to the stage before the show. The sun's going to be out, it's going to be a nice day. Like look around, look at your surroundings. You're doing two things. You're going to see where you're going to walk and make sure you don't trip on anything because that would not be good. But take a slow walk down, look around, visualize as the crowd being there, and just try to enjoy it.

00:40:02
Speaker 1: Yeah.

00:40:03
Speaker 3: I want you to have the best day at work you've ever had, and I want it to be a moment that you can look back on and when you have been around as long as me and when you're my age, you will then tell the next kids and you will be talking about moments that you had and doing video packages and talking head stuff being like, yeah, I remember this, and this was this was really cool and this made this is what made it special. You just really got to save for the moment. So that was that was a big one that I told him. I was super happy that it was in Chicago, in the United Center. I contrary to what everyone else seems to think, I thought it was flawless, like like it was perfect because he's like it was designed to be that. Yes, yes, And I don't think the majority of people who have never seen him before understood that until they saw him Monday and then the Monday after and then they went, oh, okay, I get it, you know. So I wanted to make sure, like, hey, listen, don't panic like he's like people were saying that they booed He's like, I didn't really hear kind of booze. I was like, I legitimately think they booed because they like, like you can say, nothing happened. What did they want? What was he supposed to do? This is the charm of Danhausen. I do you know the you might not? You might? I don't know. Do you know the shock Master moment? No, it's famous moment in pro wrestling. In w CW, he was a gentleman by the name of Fred Otman. He just went into our Hall of Fame last year. He was he was tug boat, he was typhoon, one of the natural disasters. After the run in WWF, he went to w CW and they were like, you're going to be the shock Master. They had this outfit made for him, the law of the story, and I apologize, Uncle Fred. I don't know how true this is. Next time I see you, I will ask you so I am more accurately informed. The lore of the story is he showed up much bigger than when they measured him for said outfit, and the helmet that they made did not fit. And I don't know how true this is. It could just be some some pro wrestling you know, bullshit, Dusty did all this, He's not He's no longer here, so we can't ask him. So they ran out. They somehow got a Stormtrooper helmet, which they then spray painted and covered in glitter. There it is, wow, And what was supposed to happen is he was He was a mystery tag opponent for Team of baby Faces. I think it was like sting British Bulldog maybe and they're wrestling like it Sid. I can't remember who else I want to say, maybe Booker T was out there. I don't I don't know. But the reveal was him smashing through a wall, right, but they didn't gimmick the wall, and the wall had the two by four stud right about shin level No, So he went to go smash through the wall like the kool Aid Man and gets tripped up and falls forward, the helmet falls off, and he gets up like nothing happened, because what else are you going to do? And you can you could see the state of Fred right there, like maybe not the best, Like I don't know what that outfit is that looks like half a Halloween. Yes, there's Booker, there's Booker T, and there's Sid and Sid Man. Sid's pissed. Look at him. Also, look at that Perm Parker right there, legendary, legendary wrestler and manager. Also the voice, you're really gonna have to watch this. The voice is Ollie Anderson off air like doing with microphone, so his mannerisms and his body language don't match up. And at the time it's oh wow, uh I. I really don't want this to sound insulting to Dan Hausen, but he is he he like is that on purpose? Yes? Exactly, Yes, you know what I mean. Like he is somebody who can come out and fall directly on his face and he's pee wee Herman, you know, Steve Steve verkle I meant to do that, you know what I mean. And there's just just something so endearing about him. Now trying any parallels to shock aster might offend some people, but that's that that in a way, like that's what he is. And you can say that's that's just comic relief, but he's far beyond that. He's he's somebody that can he can get He already has gotten away with so much going out and his T shirt gun doesn't work, and anyone else would go I don't know what I'm supposed to do, and for him it works. And now you don't know's he's doing this on purpose. This is a bit and that is the essence of pro wrestling totally. People watching it, people going, I know this is fake except that guy, except that guy. That guy really hates that guy or this guy. You know, you know, and that's what that's what makes him brilliant.

00:45:44
Speaker 1: Yeah, he cursed me, so yeah, I know.

00:45:48
Speaker 3: Very very sorry. You should have just gave him money.

00:45:51
Speaker 4: I didn't know I was supposed to do.

00:45:53
Speaker 3: That's what I do. I see him coming and I pulled the wallet out, and it's a lot easier to go through life like that, walking around that curse on me and my parents' mortgage again. Why do you want to talk to me? You need money? Okay, here you go say for a month.

00:46:08
Speaker 2: Yeah, do you hope to work with him one day?

00:46:12
Speaker 3: I never want to see him.

00:46:31
Speaker 1: We spoke too.

00:46:32
Speaker 2: We've mentioned we spoke to your lovely wife earlier today, and just the idea of having the championship title, traveling with your hot champion wife life partner, working with your friend Dan Housen, headlining WrestleMania is all of this better than you imagined it.

00:46:49
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, tenfold. We touched on a little bit. I think I'm doing the best stuff of my career. Yeah, I think. I came back and I said, man, you know, there's just sometimes I'm so like in a flow state, Like I came back and I tore my tricep, like right out of the gate. I came back. We had that big, big return. Man, everybody's happy, A couple of people are mad, and in turn more people are happy, you know, and we turn right around and it's just like, I'm very seldomly proud of myself. I don't I don't find that a thing I'm capable of. I'm bab with compliments. Sometimes I go, yeah, this is really really cool. And we have an annual Christmas loop that's normally Ron SmackDown two different tours. You do like four or five dates and it's normally day it starts a day after Christmas. She's yeah, and I had just come back. That's late November. I'm wildly out of shape, like I you know what I mean, Like I'm just eating everything. I figured that was it for me. I'm going to go to culinary school. The joke around the house was I'm going to become five hundred pounds, and she was just like, good, make me stuff. That was the plan, you know, and then all of a sudden, it's like, no, I'm doing this, and oh okay, I gotta all right, and I gotta switch gears and I got to get in the shape. And there was a show with Madison Square Garden the day after Christmas, and ticket sales were that's so good. It's the garden. You want to pack that place. And I remember making a phone call and being like, what do you think of you wrestling at the garden? You think would that help ticket sales? You know, And this is why I'm proud of myself. Sold the place out and they bought me. One of the greatest gifts I have in my house is a it's a it's from Tiffany's. It's a silver it's a solid silver Madison Square Garden ticket that said, you know, return to the Garden, return to the w We sold out Madison Square Garden, world's most famous arena, and it's it's amazing. It's like validation, you know, because I started this and I just wanted to be a wrestler. I was proud to have a pair of boots. I'm a pro wrestler, you know. Uh. And then to be able to follow in the footsteps of people and to learn and understand the business that it's crazy and it could be fun, but at the end of the day, it's also a business and it's predicated on selling tickets. And I man, I did that. I cannot deny it because I have a solid silver on your And then you know, like did did the whole loop and you know, just sold out a whole bunch of shows Pittsburgh that you know, and it's just like I think that's you know, going going back to Triple h. I think that showed him just like, oh kids got juice, okay, you know. And whether he likes me or hates me, he's that smart booker slash promoter that went, this seems to be working well. People are with it. But then I, you know, I go and I tear my trisep right away. And I told myself, I cried for seven minutes in the hotel room before I called April. I tried to get it out because I knew as soon as I tried to open my mouth with her on the other end of the line it would come out anyway. So I tried to get rid of it, and then I told her I got hurt. And then I told myself like, you know, whoe is me? Oh, this is the worst thing that's ever happened to me? And it wasn't. It was pretty bad because I had high expectations and I know what the plans were, and there were talks of main eventing WrestleMania, you know, and I was literally just like, well, what do you do in that situation? And I said, I looked at myself in the mirror and I said, You're going to make this the best thing that has ever happened to you. That was the only alternative. There were no half measures. So I'm gonna come back and I'm hav an okay, run no, I'm going to rehab this thing like a son of a bitch. And when I come back, I'm going to paint a masterpiece. And I feel like I did that, you know. And then it's continued to roll from September, when April came back on, you know, did a tour of Australia and Japan, two places I never thought I'd ever get to go again to wrestle at least, you know, roll roll that into like these these huge moments like behind the camera and in front of the camera, the crazy viral moment where me and Roman are in the shark cage and for some people, for some reason, like millions and millions of people want to watch it. And you know, so it's like kind of fascinating to be firing on all cylinders at this high level, like at this stage beyond my wildest dreams. Yeah.

00:51:48
Speaker 4: So spiritual is the wrong word, but higher power, whatever you want to fate, whatever you want to call it. You think that all the success in your life now is because you're ready to handle it in a way that maybe you wouldn't have been back in the day.

00:52:08
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, you know, I made goals and dreams that I probably couldn't have accomplished until I, you know, grew into the person who could handle it. You know, I said at the top, like it's about fucking time, right, But yeah, maybe, And there's a big part of me that thinks if I did Mate of Entermania before, I would have had less incentive to come back, right, you know, like there's there's there's.

00:52:42
Speaker 1: Still you had boxes to check.

00:52:45
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I I I and as much as I've grown and I've changed, I'm there's still a big part of me that's the fifteen year old kid with the chip on his shoulder that oh you said, Oh you said, I can't Okay, well watch this. That's why. That's why I get too old when people are like, oh you're old. Oh yeah, okay, watch watch watch Sunday. Yeah you know, yeah, we'll see. He's still got a lot of fire. I got a lot. I got a lot of you know, I know there's way more road behind me than there is in front of me, But that doesn't mean I still don't have like a tremendous amount to give this business.

00:53:21
Speaker 2: Well we have Shawn Michael's running NXT Undertaker has taken on Triple A, and it seems aj styles.

00:53:27
Speaker 3: The weirdest damn thing, the weirdest damn thing I I ran into. I ran into Taker today. I mean, here's an example of the lore, a CM punk story.

00:53:43
Speaker 4: Uh.

00:53:43
Speaker 3: Taker yelled at me for not wearing dress shoes one time and then I got squashed by him on a pay per view and dropped the belt to him. This is this is the story. This is the lore. I'm certain that the finish of that match was never in question.

00:54:01
Speaker 4: Yeah, I did not.

00:54:05
Speaker 3: I finished, did not get changed because because I was wearing you know, okay, you know the story is I was champ at the time. We're on a two week European tour and I you know, I mean, Tanker's got a podcast now too, like the Dead Man's got a podcast. I don't know if he's going to watch this, but this is the story. He's leaned up against the wall. I go walking by, I'm dragging my bag, and he's like, hey, and I talked to you for a minute. Sure, And he looks down on my feet and he's like, what's the what's what's what's the story? And I look down and I go, yeah, the story is. Respectfully, I'm seeing punk, I'm not seeing Bizcash. And I know what you're gonna say, but man, the man you asked, I'm answering. I'm not trying to wheeze a lot of ship. My feet hurt when I wear dress shoes. We're over here on a two week European tour and I'm busting my ass and I'm working hard. I hope you would appreciate that. I don't really think anybody's looking at my shoes, you know, and he's like, well, you know, he's towing the company line, you know, you know, you gotta you gotta, you gotta dress nice. Now I'm looking at a man he plays an undead zombie on television, and I have all the respect for him in the world, right, But this is right around the time, like him and Michelle McCool have become an item, you know. And I'm not saying that she was dressing him right, right, but to see the Undertaker and true Religion genes, yeah, and an affliction shirt, and I'm kind of like, are you dressed up? And this is my problem, right, this is where I have grown. I faced with this problem. Now, I would be like, m hmm, I'm gonna get some nicer ship and save myself the fucking headache. But I bumped into him today, right yeah. And this actually, this is this has already happened a couple of times. This happened at Summer Slam. We're sitting next to each other that we're watching Cody and uh John Sina, right, and we're both we're both just sitting next to her looking, you know, and I like kind of stuck my feet out like this, and I did like a triple take, and I look, this motherfucker, what's he wearing. He's wearing the exact same style and color focus as I am. So I'm looking and then I elbow him and he's like what And I point and I go, what's the story with these? And he just gets this. You know, you don't think the Undertaker can do like kind of a sly And he looks. He just looks at me, and he goes, well, they're comfortable, unk, And I went so reminded me two thousand and nine.

00:57:40
Speaker 4: To do him today.

00:57:41
Speaker 3: And he looks at me and I'm all suited and I got some nice you know, sneaks on and he just looks at me and he goes, man, you've changed.

00:57:55
Speaker 1: You have look at you look at the growth.

00:57:57
Speaker 3: Yeah. And I and I and I and and that. I love that entire story. I love the fact that we you know, we had that conversation and then we had that moment, and then we had that moment again today.

00:58:09
Speaker 4: Like I.

00:58:12
Speaker 3: Hopefully he thinks is as entertaining as I did, yes, because you know, like I just think that shit is funny, so.

00:58:19
Speaker 2: Great, Well, it seems aj styles has also taken on a roll backstage. I know you have so much left to do as a wrestler, but what does the post wrestling life of cmpunk look like?

00:58:32
Speaker 1: Do you think?

00:58:33
Speaker 3: Hmmm, I don't know. Uh, And I'm not trying to spoil anything or be you know, vague or cryptic. There's been conversations and I have a staunch position of it does not work because of my past experiences. I don't want to be a wrestler and be any type of office at the same time. Okay, I don't think that work because I don't think that mixes. I'm not trying to pull power plays or inote like say like I'm any kind of an executive while I'm an on screen talent, like to try to throw my weight. It creates situations that can easily be avoided. You know. The only thing I am other than a talented, contracted wrestler is sometimes an idea guy. If you ask me a question, that's That's what I'm there for. I think they know that, and if they ever do want to pick my brain, they ask, you know, I can't. I can't be in charge of a developmental or anything. This is this is a spot for a guy like Taker or for a guy like Sean who're done done? Yeah, you know what I mean, Like they're not They're not looking at somebody and being like, oh this is I'm gonna beat this guy on pay per view? You know you know what I mean? Like and I would never do that either, but it would just avoiding the headache of people being able to say that practice.

01:00:08
Speaker 1: Yep, don't give him that, ammo.

01:00:10
Speaker 4: I think you should become a producer of Squirrel Girl, which your wife is going to write and starry, So that I think because she had several ideas while sitting here even I was like, okay, we got to get on that. Yeah, So that I think would be a good idea because that movie needs to be done.

01:00:25
Speaker 3: Yep, I agree with that. Yeah, Squirrel Girl's fun.

01:00:30
Speaker 4: Yeah.

01:00:33
Speaker 2: Two quick questions before I let you go, Who do you think is maybe the most underrated.

01:00:40
Speaker 1: Wrestler currently in the WW I'll give.

01:00:43
Speaker 3: You a few because I think the obvious picks of people who are stand out kind of no brainer. Blue chip you know, wrestle media main inventors waiting to happen and think about that, say and for a while for a minute, like I think if anybody ever called me that, look how long it took me. It takes some time. But a guy like Obafemi, Javon Evans, Trick Williams, God, there's there's there's a lot on the roster, but those three jump out, and a lot of it has to do with positioning. The way they've been positioned out of the gate. You know, you're giving the audience incentive to invest in them. As far as underrated, a guy like Grayson Waller because how hungry he is and how he does his best to control what he can control. You know, sometimes you're not going to be on TV. Sometimes you're not going to get fed. So he looked at he's gotten into like insane, tremendous shape. Inspired me to kind of do the same thing to, you know, to look at yourself and kind of ask yourself hard questions, be like can I be better? Yes? I can? Okay, if he can do it, I can do it. It's going to take a while. But and he's somebody who's hungry, and I think he understands the business. You know, underrated, underrated as a girl in NXT like that. A lot of these people have been in NXT for a while, JC Jane. I think is somebody because sometimes you wait too long, you wait for these kids to be ready, and the thing is, nobody's ever ready yep, across the board. I did a thing earlier with ESPN where we watched my debut on ECW television. Wow, And I said, I think I was probably maybe the most ready guy to debut on television. But it's because of this wealth of experience that I already had. You know, I still had so much to learn, but that crowd was there, and those were that was my crowd. Is wild Rabbit New York underground, indie loving, hardcore niche fan base. I'd wrestled in that building before the scene was set. I was ready. You know. You take some of these kids and you go, oh, they're not ready yet. They're not ready yet. They're not going to be ready until they do it.

01:03:13
Speaker 4: Yeah.

01:03:14
Speaker 3: You know. It's like you can ask anybody anything in life, are you ready to be a mom?

01:03:18
Speaker 1: No? Exactly?

01:03:19
Speaker 3: Yeah, I can't just not do it? We are, you know? So, And she's somebody who I think a lot of people might not actually like give their flowers to. But I think she's done really, really well, and she has that chip on her shoulder to to prove herself. So I think she's kind of underrated. But there's there's a wealth of talent down in NXT, more so on the women's side than the guys. There's a girl named Kendall Gray, not underrated at all. Like I mean, she's she's going to get a giant ego at this point. The way people are talking about her. You know, I think a little of ice is great too, Like she's somebody like to me, I see her and I'm like, that's the star. Yeah, you know, maybe maybe she needs some work with a couple of two or three things, but like she has the one thing that you really can't teach, you know, and that goes such a long way.

01:04:13
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm going to ask this one through my fingers.

01:04:16
Speaker 4: I'm sitting close to him, so be careful what you ask.

01:04:19
Speaker 1: Who's the most overrated all the growth? To take a sip of water?

01:04:33
Speaker 4: The statue of limitations I'm stabbing and somebody looking at that.

01:04:36
Speaker 3: Already, I am, oh wow, do you really believe that? Absolutely not.

01:04:47
Speaker 5: No, I love your allergic to being dishonest, because I just thank you, no, thank you.

01:04:57
Speaker 3: It's gotten me in so much trouble. Yeah it again. It's also made me who I am exactly, and it's brought me to here. You know, I'm going to be really I'm going to be really lame and say that I I don't I don't want to seth rollins.

01:05:13
Speaker 1: Okay, I love it Punk.

01:05:28
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01:05:50
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01:06:00
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