2025-26 NBA Season Preview LIVE 🔴 Ft. MAD MAX | MVP, Finals Predictions & Rookie of the Year

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Speaker 1: Are we live? Where's the live stream? Man? We're new to this ship, so talk with me.

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Speaker 2: Everyone. Welcome, we're live streaming.

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Speaker 1: What's happening?

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Speaker 2: I don't know what that means. Where we are? Where's don't be Paul Piers. Now we know where the stream camera at though.

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna pull the fee feet. Oh all of them were live stream.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this is new for us, old motherfuckers.

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Speaker 1: Man. Welcome to hold on. Yeah, going get that in.

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Speaker 2: Unplugged pauls live streaming.

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Speaker 1: Ah man.

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Speaker 2: Today's episode is brought to you by Draft Kings. The crown is yours. That ship was hot man? What was that ginger? We're coming to you live, so make sure you guys leave us comments. You guys see who I got in the building today. My brother from another was popular Unplugged. We got a long work week, but we're starting off with unplugged Jack.

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Speaker 1: What's going on? Man? Cooling? Bro?

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Speaker 2: Jack came to the gym with me for the first time, uh, and got to look, got to see what my mornings are like every day, got some hard working and moved our eyeballs outside of our head and then got up out of there.

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Speaker 3: Yep, yeah, I mean the environment from my gym and his gym is totally totally different, but you know, the outcome is the same. But I love being that gym, the energy I got.

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Speaker 2: Crazy and Jackson, Yeah, shout out just training, Jock, Kaylany, boss, the whole crew.

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Speaker 1: Nate, what do we got today? Bro? What were on today? Say?

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Speaker 3: Well, we're on first before we get started. We both big pop fans. Indeed, you got a chance to sit down with the actual baby.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Devon Hodge, that was dope man was like that experience. Well, Jeff Pearlman was promoting a new book Only God Can Judge Me, and he brought Devon Hodge, which was the baby from.

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Speaker 1: Brand New's Got a Baby.

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Speaker 2: It inspired the song that poked it.

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Speaker 1: It was incredible.

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Speaker 2: I think we got a lot of great feedback, but also jack not gonna lie. I also got a lot of heat in my dms from people of color asking why I would support a white man trying to freeload off POC. And I didn't really respond to nobody because I figured I was going to make a video or something about it, but might as well just addressing now.

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Speaker 1: My whole thing with that is the dude put the work in.

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Speaker 2: He took three years, three and a half years to interview over six hundred people. He was speaking from not from poc standpoint, but from the community that he got the information from. So he was never and he made it clear he was never speaking from Pok's point of view. He was speaking from the people who knew him best. But when I did start doing a little digging, I did see that he took some cheap shots at POC.

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Speaker 1: Who is that?

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Speaker 2: Yes, Christina, have you ever done cusha?

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Speaker 1: Oh?

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Speaker 2: Fuck, yeah, I remember Chris did him for you one time while you were pregnant, But you're not pregnant.

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Speaker 1: Huh in real time? She can do him a real time too. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I mean we're live streaming, Christina, you feel free to come do five from your knees with a little joint in your mouth if you like. For anyone who doesn't know what cush ups are is if anyone violates our show at any time, Ray Young is the main culprit, they.

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Speaker 1: Have to do cush ups. But anyway, but I was.

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Speaker 2: Looking at the things and I have saw some cheap shots. He kind of took it pot but there was no pock disrespect on that episode.

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Speaker 1: I thought it was a great episode.

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Speaker 2: And for those of you who wanted to know why, I felt like, why would I allow him to come on my platform? I just thought it was a great story. I'm a huge Park fan. I always want to learn more about him. So Jack, to answer your question, I think the interview went really well.

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Speaker 1: You know what bothers me with stuff like that, though, It's like.

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Speaker 3: Good work and appreciating people has a color, it don't, bro, It don't. I've had to be honest, more people in my color do most shady shit than me than any other color, just.

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Speaker 1: Being honest, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: Some of my own family, some of my own closest friends have done worship to me that that I called out. I said, I love that's my own color then other people. So I hate when people say that shit because if they had the opportunity to do something like that, they wouldn't use race. So I think a lot of people it's a jealous thing to say, Bro, it's a jealous thing to say, because people really want to be in your shoes when they do.

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Speaker 1: Like I think too.

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Speaker 2: And I understood a little bit because not all of it was disrespect and I felt what it was where some people were saying, was for so long that white writers or movie makers or storytellers have been telling stories about our black heroes. And I think today we are in a day and age where we can tell our own stories about our own people, and we have the ability to do that now. So I think that's where some people are coming from. But I think overall, Man, if you're going to put the work in and three years and over six hundred interviews, I'm gonna listen to what came out of that, because again it was from the people who were closest to him.

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Speaker 1: Jack. If there was one knowing the music fan you.

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Speaker 2: Are, whose book or bio would you want to have done.

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Speaker 1: Past or present, dead or live?

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Speaker 3: Good question, bro, I would say two Nip and Scarface. Oh, NIPS is on the way, Nip and Scarface. Scarface would be a dope one nippo that they want to say. NIPS thing is due next summer and hopefully we can team up with Black Sam and the team with the release of that, and then Scarface would be.

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Speaker 2: Dope checking out the Chawner. Now, yeah, man, mad Max's flight got delayed. He will be here later today, so you guys will see him on the live stream and then our dog rashed while it's his knees swoll up. He even sent us a picture to show us how swelling his knees were, so she'd ice them rusty ass knees. Bro, we need you out here next time. But yeah, we definitely got some cool stuff coming with Sheid and Max again. Max will be in town later so you guys can catch him on the live stream that we're doing tomorrow opening night tip off Lakers Warriors. Sir, let's get to some baseball jack. The Dodgers show hel Tani arguably the greatest. I wouldn't even say postseason I would say a postseason game. I would say arguably the greatest ever all time. Rehit three home runs, struck out ten over six scoreless innings as the Dodgers swept the Brewers to advance to.

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Speaker 1: The World Series.

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Speaker 2: Shout out to all about Dodger homies and Lon Roser, big Homie looks out for us.

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Speaker 3: We talk about playoff games and people stepping up in big minute, I mean big moments. This is beyond crazy. Three home runs and ten strikeouts in one game, Bro, in the playoffs, that's crazy, Bro, that's crazy.

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Speaker 1: You gotta get that man, ultimate respect.

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Speaker 2: I saw something on social media too where they were it the first six hundred and seventy five innings or something like that, or was it games or any I'm not sure, but they can put a side to side by Otani and Babe Ruth, and Otani was like right right above Babe Ruth and everything he did.

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Speaker 1: So I would have loved to see with Babe Ruth. Huh.

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Speaker 2: You know through the first amount of it was a certain amount of time, but yeah, man, shout out Otani. We got to get him somehow, even we got to bring his translator. We need to sit down with Otani. One of the greatest I mean that to me is that it's early for his career. What is this year, six or seven?

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Speaker 1: Eight years?

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Speaker 2: I mean, I think it's safe to say he's tracking to be the greatest baseball player of all time.

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Speaker 3: I mean, he's doing something that a lot of the greats haven't done. You know, I'm already so yeah, you're right about that.

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Speaker 1: Oh hell yeah. On the show.

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Speaker 3: In the show, I end the season with about one sixty home runs. One hundred and sixty home runs. My record at the end of the season's probably twenty in Oh, I don't lose.

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Speaker 1: That's what I talked when I talked to one of the Dodgers owners. That's what I said.

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Speaker 2: I was just like, Man, that's one of the greatest games I've ever seen. I men, it's like he's putting up video game numbers in real life. Jack, take us back to what you think in any sport you mentioned it in the past. Do we want to go on that. Oh, we got a list of it. Well, let's see this list. Tiger Woods two thousand and eight US Open on a broken leg, did an eighteen whole playoff, then continue the nineteenth hold a sudden death against rock O Media to win his fourteenth major.

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Speaker 1: I remember that.

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Speaker 2: Carly Lloyd or Carly Lloyd's hat trick versus Japan and the World Cup to give the US a five to two win in the twenty fifteen World Cup in Bape, hat trick in the World Cup finals in twenty twenty two lost to Argentina and pks Yanni's fifty point closed out game game six, you know all other shit. Yanna's fifty point close out game in game six to win the Champion Chip versus the Suns seventeen for nineteen. To me, that's probably the most impressive stat of all the numbers is he only missed two free throws.

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Speaker 1: I think you were Were you involved in this game in real time?

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Speaker 2: Tim Duncan close out game in two thousand and three, Game six, twenty one, twenty ten and eight clocks, The King Game seven, twenty sixteen, close out twenty seven, eleven and eleven, and the ceiling block against Andre Iguodala, which will go down as one of the greatest blocks in history as the Calves came back from three to one to take the championship. The goat Jerry Rice or two hundred and fifteen yards in Super Bowl twenty twenty three, The Bowl Shack two thousand and one Finals, Game two, twenty eight, twenty nine and nine. Fella crazy, Asia Wilson, Who my lord, she's so cold, bro. And I don't hope that no one takes his disrespectful but I hope her bam has some babies because they're gonna be as a bad mother fucker boy male or female. They're gonna be cold, bro. That's from Union and a right there, Asia Wilson, Game three and the Finals hit the game winner but her numbers were thirty four, fourteen.

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Speaker 1: Four and three and she won every award this year. She possibly win Tom Brady.

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Speaker 2: I remember this game because I went to sleep in the first half, Layer down twenty eight to three, and I woke up and somehow it was a close game.

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl. What super Bowl fifty one?

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Speaker 2: He comes back and wins EVP four hundred and sixty six pass yard, two touches, forty three completions.

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Speaker 1: What's your famly funny story?

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Speaker 3: So I got invited to Jared Jack and my home board Red's Super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: Party for that game.

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Speaker 3: Yes, number of the land of people now and Jadakis was the only one. Jadak was the only one that bet the whole house. So halftime, he's sitting over there on time. But they killing him, Bro, they killing him.

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Speaker 1: YadA kiss the rapper, Yes, uh huh.

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Speaker 3: And you know him, He's not that type of guy. He's just sitting there. I'm talking about. Soon as the tide changed and they ended up winning. I think he won like seventy three. And I was in the house to night, but he was talking so bad. But just to see the switch of the whole house, you know what I'm saying That was amazing to see what Tom Brady.

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Speaker 2: Did speaking to Jady Kiss. We gotta get we gotta fuck with him and Joe. Yes their show look stuff, shout out. I saw they won Best Music Pod and on something but love Joe telling stories and I feel like it's a similar chemistry that me and you have, the way they be talking ship to each other and having a good time. So shout out the homies man of their new podcasts. We definitely got to check this out. Checking in with the chat right now, what's going on with the chat. Let's see what's happening in here. Let's go one on one, stack one. But he was the best sports writer there is. Someone said, pause, people are saying the crabs and.

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Speaker 1: Too old for that. I don't hang around you know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm telling someone someone in here said, fuck Donald Trump. That's wild talking about it. But I hear you where else some lebron stuff. Y'all need to talk about cricket and soccer.

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Speaker 1: Trust game. I don't know. I'm not going to bait to me today. I'm not biting already the baseball go.

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Speaker 2: I mean ship close to it that you tell it, Jack, Any out of those you've seen or any that we didn't mention playoff performance for.

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Speaker 1: Me, I'll go too.

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Speaker 3: When Kareem got hurt and Magic had to step in and play center in the finals and win the game, and his numbers was crazy.

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Speaker 2: Forty eight yeah with a forty eight point triple double.

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah yeah.

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Speaker 3: Rookie season, he had a lot to prove and uh just MJ hole run in the playoffs just period. Anytime he played in the playoffs with something Magic the boy, Yeah, anytime next week.

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Speaker 1: If you playing playoff next week, it's gonna be match.

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Speaker 2: Since I have a bad memory, I'm just gonna go with Oani. I mean, obviously yeah it was. It wasn't in the in the World Series NLCS. But to be able to do what he did on the biggest stage when the world is watching U and come through the way he did for a team like the Dodgers absolutely incredible.

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Speaker 1: So I'm gonna roll.

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Speaker 2: With that tonight game seven Mariners versus the Blue Jays, and I'm just gonna put this out there. We need some more Toronto versus La energy, So I want to see the Blue Jays pull it out and have to play the Dodgers. So we're going back and forth from Toronto to LA. And I need Drake to do a performance at the Blue Jays game. And we need Kendrick to come out and do some shit that ice Cube did last year at the Dodger game and just keep it going peacefully, Keep it going peacefully. Where did the Dodgers rank all time teams? There was talks this year that if the Dodgers won the World Series that Baseball was gonna go into a strike because they feel like they're just doing too much. But the Yankees did the same shit. You know what I mean that when you got pocketbooks that don't end, you gotta go out there and get it. But I saw an article that says something about how they got like Freeman and some of their pitches and everything, and it was just other teams not willing to pay the guys what they wanted, and the Dodgers paid them what they wanted and including Otani, you know. So it's just like, if you're not gonna pay your stars what they want, come on down to death Row or LA and come to the Dodgers and see what we can do. Recently, we started a new hotline for Unplugged because we want to make sure we tap in with our fans and uh, you know, answer some of your guys questions.

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Speaker 1: Most of your guys' questions, I'm not gonna lie, weren't for me, so fuck you.

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Speaker 2: They were for Max and Rashid, and neither of them are here today. So we're gonna answer some of them tomorrow with Max, and then when we get Rashid out, you guys can blast away. But for the future, tap in two seven to nine call ats. That's two seven nine c A L L A T s. We'll be answering these on the live stream and again way that we could be more interactive, and we'll be right.

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Speaker 4: Welcome to the Stoner sixty the most list sixty seconds in sports and los I can't wait for the NBA season. Cooper Flagg been doing it all this preseason. But dudes like DJ Edgecombe bringing this energy in athleticism. I feel like gonna make this Rookie of the Year race one of the best ones in recent memory. He's Bailey certified league ready bucket right now. But los they sleep on the real star of the show, Young Hanson, the Asian sensation seven foot with a handle.

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Speaker 1: We bringing back the big man low. I ain't gonna lie Jyo Yang so tough.

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Speaker 5: But since we're talking about big sixers, fans rejoice.

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Speaker 1: The savior has returned.

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Speaker 6: Mister hes he pull himself, got it, most skilled big ever.

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Speaker 1: We ain't never seen nothing like you before.

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Speaker 4: Speaking of shit, we ain't seen before. Otani was out there, wild duck out ten battles, didn't hit not one, not two, but three. Absolute bomb buck test him now right now, he's not human.

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Speaker 1: Heyo, that boy different, But you know who else different?

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Speaker 3: Hej debants that boy's supposed to be in the NBA right now like today.

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Speaker 1: That boy just heard eighteen.

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Speaker 7: Years old giving out grown man work.

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Speaker 1: Hey' tell me that boy don't look like prime teammate Danny Garcia.

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Speaker 7: Brought out that hook from hell.

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Speaker 1: Chance me turn this shit to a novail. Get up. Appreciate you tapping in with the Stoner six.

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Speaker 2: That was a little edit from our home boys at Stoner Sports Network.

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Speaker 1: We appreciate you guys. Man.

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Speaker 2: We've been trying to figure out what we could do with them for a long time. They're one of my favorite followers. So if you guys don't follow them dealing, what's their handle at Stoner Sports Network. That their handle? Okay, make sure you guys tap in with them. We appreciate you, guys. Moving on in the chat, everyone, I saw a couple of people talking about Russell Westbrook's back. Congratulations to Russ Rody. Is he going into year seventeen or eighteen? Signed with the Sacramento Kings. It's gonna be interesting to see they got a lot of Oh really, I love that they got a lot of man, they got a lot of OG's over there with him, Zach Lavine, DeMar DeRozan. We'll be interesting to see what that team does with my brother Doug Christi at the Helm. Also, I saw some smoke and we're not gonna get too much into the smoke, but something about Russ and Lebron and it was about a book with the Lakers. There's some shit I seen this morning, so go find it. I don't know what it is. I'm not gonna talk about it right here, but make sure you go tap in with it, because there was definitely some smoke.

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Speaker 1: Jack. NBA season starts tomorrow. Yep. You guys can catch us on the live stream.

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Speaker 2: We will be streaming live Warriors versus Lakers, me Stack or Man, mad Max, and we might have some other people fall through. You can catch it on all the Smoke Productions YouTube. We're live stream, man, how are we doing in the live stream? Man, y'all talk how you feel like we're doing. Make sure you tap in throw up some smoke signals right now. If you're in the chat, I want to see throp of smoke signals.

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Speaker 1: Well, let's talk about it.

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Speaker 2: What's the fan question, Nate, Most underrated, past, present, or current.

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Speaker 3: I'm going with Brandon Roy. That's my go to every time. Damn, that's a good call.

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Speaker 2: Underrated, underrated, underrated. I hate being put on the spot. Columber forget someone. I just think probably the one of the greatest what ifs, right along with Brandon. What was Grant Hill? I think grand Hill was on pace to be a top ten type player. That ankle injury obviously set him back, but he was the type of dude that got money for Orlando and gave some of the money back because he couldn't play. I know, mean, you wouldn't do no ship like that. But shout out Grant Hill for just being a good dude. And his daughter's actually on process of becoming part of the She's an MMA fighter, will so yeah, make sure you go look up his daughter. She got some hands you do over under presented by DraftKings. Look at some win totals from the last season and see this season. Oh prediction, Okay, we're gonna make some picks. Forgive us. We're live now. So you guys saw that fuck up. Last season, the Lakers were fifty and thirty two. This year they got them at forty six and a half wins, Jack, I think Lebron is out until maybe mid November, hopefully early he'll come back. Maybe he'll stay out longer. Who knows. Maybe this is the power play. I don't know what's going on, Jack, But do you see the Lakers with more or less wins than forty six and a half.

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Speaker 3: I'll say right at the same more they will have been just had this, probably the same record, so you're.

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Speaker 2: Probably within that forty six and a half to fifty wins. Yep, they're gonna start off slow. Bring Braun in, let him finish the season strong. I have a question though, what if they start off hot with Luca. Luca's got a new body. I don't know how he got it, but he got a new body.

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Speaker 1: How did he get a new botty?

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Speaker 3: He's heavier and he's not heavier even, yes, it was fourteen pounds.

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Speaker 2: It with a muscle, muscles more than fact.

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Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, okay.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so okay, So I have a question. I have a question for you though I know I played basketball too now, but i'ma let you. I had that.

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Speaker 2: I got a question for you if what if they come out smoking out the gates while Lebron is sitting out.

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Speaker 3: That'll be an awesome situation for them and JJ ridd it because now le Bron can really get more rest and coming to the end of the season going to the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: Saving Stone, Yeah, save itself.

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Speaker 2: I feel like I feel like there's a little smoke over there with the LA Lakers. I don't know what it is, but my antennas are up and I've been hearing some weird shit, So I'm interested to see how this season runs with Lebron.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to.

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Speaker 2: I don't want to insinuate A lot of a lot of those other shows insinuate ship and when they're wrong, they don't say nothing about us.

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Speaker 1: So I'm not.

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Speaker 2: Gonnay, but I feel like there's definitely some smoke that we're not able to see yet, but we shall see, which bring us to our next question. Do you think Lebron will remain a Laker this full season?

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Speaker 1: I hope not. Oh, I hope. Tell me why you said that, I want to.

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Speaker 3: I mean, the most entertaining thing besides him being one of the greatest all time in the way he's played, but some of the most entertaining things that he's done was go partner up with people and go to different teams and make that shit interesting.

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Speaker 1: Do it one more time, you want to see.

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Speaker 3: That's what I thought the message was about the little Press, That's what I thought that was about it.

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Speaker 1: Now he's going somewhere.

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Speaker 2: Else instead he just drinks dark liquor. Now, yeah, yeah, I mean he's been doing that that bottle. So if you were to go anywhere, would you want to see Dallas? Do you think Dallas? You wouldn't want to see him go home and finish up with them young boys.

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Speaker 1: I have no interest in Cleveland.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, Dallas, Yeah, Dallas guys has the pieces too, I think to maybe it'll make that happen.

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Speaker 1: And he might get one or two there if he goes there though.

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Speaker 2: Next up, Oklahoma City Thunder sixty two and a half. That's a lot of god damn wins. Last year they won sixty eight, won a title. Obviously historical defense. Their defense was on some shit. They were on a string, playing for each other, returning everyone they paid. They locked up their big three, which is obviously Shade, Jalen Williams, and Chet returning everybody. Jalen Williams is fighting through a wrist surgery, so it's unclear on his return. What do you think about this team over sixty two and a half this year, right at sixty two, do they have a little bit of the championship hangover?

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Speaker 3: I'll go right in sixty two. I think there'll still be a dominant team, still be the number one seed. Well, still be the top of the Western Conference. But you know, I ain't gonna say championship hangover, but it's gonna they gonna let some stuff slip, you know what I'm saying. From the confidence of being champions walking and you have a little that some lead downs. Yeah, yeah, they would have more lead downs than last year, but still be one of those teams in the league.

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Speaker 1: Gotcha?

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Speaker 2: Well, their championship dynasty or is it too early to start talking about this is a very young team with a great coach, great management. Is too early to think that there is a dynasty loading. I'm not talking about their dynasty off of one win. Is a dint with what they have, all their assets, the way their management moves, great young coach, team that is full of young stars.

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Speaker 1: Is this a dynasty loading? I would say that yeah.

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Speaker 3: Dot dot dot dot dot dot like a motherfucker.

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Speaker 2: More likely scenario SGA gets his second straight MVP or Joker comes back to take what everyone some people felt with his anyway and get his fourth m v P.

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Speaker 3: Well, I I think they did that because Shah should have won at the year Joker won and they switched it back, you know what I mean? But I think now it's impossible. If Joker has another year like yeah, last year, you gotta give it to him. Don't give fuck what's going on.

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Speaker 2: You got too tough, tough, tough, tough rockets who I feel like are gonna be one of my favorites this year. Fifty two and a half wins. Last year they had fifty two wins. You added Kevin Durant, although they lost the van Fleet for the entire year. New starting five, Amen Thompson, Kevin Durant, Jabari Smith, Sengoon and Steven.

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Speaker 3: That's a sixty eleven six eleven six eleven six eleven six nine.

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Speaker 1: And let me say it for you right quick, for you think about it. Yes, who's playing point guard?

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Speaker 3: I mean yeah really when Yeah?

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Speaker 2: I like Reeve Shepherd too, I like really it goes down there.

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Speaker 1: I would love that. If this works, it's gonna change the game.

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Speaker 2: That's when you can start having six to eight, six and nine guys similar to what they had. Well, probably what that's gonna happen in Dallas and we'll get to it. Because of Kyrie, they got the young boy playing some point. Go back to that real quick, though, Nate shout out KD I think he just signed a two year, ninety million KD. Let me hold something, bro.

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Speaker 1: He made of all time?

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Speaker 2: Is he that just put it over really gradually? Well deserved gradual congratulation. Sengoon entering his fifth season only twenty three years old.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he was a diamond in the rough.

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Speaker 2: He's one of the best sinners in the game last year at nineteen ten and five. I think he'll be at twenty two to twelve and probably seven this year, right in the footsteps of a Jokic.

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Speaker 1: So they're tough.

00:25:43
Speaker 2: He may Udoka hands down one of the best coaches in the game, and I really think that team has taking on his toughness and his personality. So look out for the Rockets. They're gonna be one of my favorites in the Western Conferences.

00:25:53
Speaker 3: Stay healthy, Brondanous. Do the Rockets have enough to win a championship for of course, you got a lot of experience over there, you got one of the best small forwards of all time. A lot of people say he might be the best, So I don't know. I think I think they definitely has to have an opportunity to do something special with a great coach, great young guys, that play hard, they hungry, and I got two of my favorite big, big guys in the game with Steve Adams and Sagoon, so I think they can do it.

00:26:22
Speaker 2: I want to know how this Van Fleet injury is going to affect the team.

00:26:26
Speaker 1: Because he's with him. That was the next fight right to me.

00:26:30
Speaker 2: He was the heart and soul of that team last year that the emotional leader had big games when they needed it. Obviously, Kevin Durant is gonna step in and fill a lot of that, but I just think his presence and his energy is going to be sorely missed. So I'm interesting to see how his injury will affect this team. Yeah, but also keep in mind they have a lot of assets too. The Houston Ruckers have a lot of young assets if they want to go out there and find a guard.

00:26:56
Speaker 3: I do think though, they're going to need a point guard at the end of the game to close games, because you're gonna need aman to be to be on next shooting guard.

00:27:02
Speaker 1: That was my thing.

00:27:04
Speaker 2: Who's gonna guard the tough point guard? If they got a tough point guard in a wing, Yeah, because I love KD. But he's a little bit older.

00:27:10
Speaker 1: Wow, Easton. I like Easton, he plays he plays hard.

00:27:13
Speaker 3: Easton. I like Jabari Smith too. You're right, they got options down, they got pieces.

00:27:18
Speaker 2: Yeah, the Golden State Warriors.

00:27:20
Speaker 1: People are singing their praises this year. I'm about to start to what up Nate?

00:27:28
Speaker 2: Oh, I think the Rockets will be I want to go over. I think they'll get more than fifty two wins this year. I think they'll be probably in that fifty three to fifty six win which will put him top three, I feel like in the Western Conference. But again, Warriors now forty seven and a half. Last year they are forty eight and thirty four. But twenty two and five, when Jimmy and Steph were on the court together, they lost Looney Chamberlain and Looney James.

00:27:52
Speaker 1: Does he still have his rick? James?

00:27:54
Speaker 2: Look, Looney, that was I seen you in person. I probably should have told you, let's do let's someone else with that Loony. Yeah, you was walking around looking like norbit. Loony Chamberlain such a good dude. Hey, and someone the Warriors are gonna really miss.

00:28:12
Speaker 1: Man.

00:28:12
Speaker 2: He he played what will you get?

00:28:14
Speaker 1: Ten years there? Ten years ago? The State kind of an unsung star.

00:28:18
Speaker 2: I'm not sure if fields ten, don't quote me, but he had a good run, great old ways, did his job pay really good. But now for him, look at that shit. Look at Dylan's picture. Looney Chamber, Loony James, Lodi James, shout out to loan man, where'd you go?

00:28:34
Speaker 1: New Orleans?

00:28:35
Speaker 2: With Willie Green? The old assistant coach from the Warriors Big Three? Steph, you're seventeen, Draymond, you're fourteen, Jimmy, you're fifteen. Last year's stats, Steph twenty four six and four forty from the three point line, seventy games played at thirty six years old. Remember he pulled his hamstring in the playoffs and that was kind of their downfall. Draymond entering year fourteen, he was at nine six and six sixty eight games play, but his numbers always don't tell the story of his impact. And then Jimmy, you're fifteen. He was at eighteen five and five plus nearly almost two steals a game. I think the key to this team jacket is whatever issues Steve Kerr has with kaminga. Steve, you gotta smoke them away, bro, because they're gonna need kaminga scoring this year.

00:29:23
Speaker 1: I want to go on record saying this to the world.

00:29:27
Speaker 3: The Warriors can win the championship because they have this lineup that I'm about to say can possibly be the best lineup in the league this year. Steph at the one he smoked this morning, Yeah, I did. I was trying to finish it, but we have to turn the camera. Steph at the one, Jim at the two, Kamenia at the three, Dre the four, Horford at the five.

00:29:47
Speaker 1: I like that.

00:29:48
Speaker 3: That's probably the best five in the league coming down the playoffs.

00:29:52
Speaker 1: In the fourth quarter, I would trust.

00:29:53
Speaker 3: I would not trust more five than any other five in the fourth quarter in a big game than those five guys right.

00:29:58
Speaker 1: Bad at that?

00:30:01
Speaker 3: Stay what Steph, Jimmy Jimmy Comania. Yes, have you seen him? He's playing well. Cominga is a twenty point game. You always better after you get your money. You ain't worried about that. Now you can just hoop.

00:30:13
Speaker 2: Yup and like that. Off the bench. They got POD's Moody. Who else do they have coming off the bench?

00:30:21
Speaker 1: Watch the Warriors? They waved Seth.

00:30:24
Speaker 3: Yeah, man, come on, come on, come on, what we're talking about. What we're talking about? Come on, let's go let's be warriors. Okay, I love Seth. Wait, come on now, that five with the pieces they got in the coach, they got a.

00:30:38
Speaker 1: Chance to win a championship.

00:30:40
Speaker 2: This is a young bring that in up. This is a young man's game, Jack, Is this team too old? Obviously you don't feel like they are. If you feel like.

00:30:50
Speaker 3: This is a young man's game, well, what I say is when you add the young and the old together, I think I was able to see that. In San Antonio we had we had the yearly won a championship. It was me, Tony Janobli, Malik Rose, We were the young guys. We had Danny Ferry, Kevin Willis, Steve Smith, we had a David Robinson was in his last year. So I think that can work. And the experience with Steve Kerr, you know what I'm saying. He was there on our team as well, so I think he understands how to mix the ol in the news.

00:31:14
Speaker 2: My concern this year is purely for Steph Curry and just the miles he has on his legs, and we all know Steph is not the biggest guy, and the way he moves and runs. How can they preserve as much as Steph as possible for post all start and a run into the playoffs and still be effective enough to get themselves a nice because they need matchups are gonna be important for them, I feel to come playoff time. So forty seven and a half? Are they over under forty seven and a half wins this year?

00:31:44
Speaker 1: Yeah? And they gonna they can hide him.

00:31:46
Speaker 3: It's trash on every team, So just find the trash bucket.

00:31:49
Speaker 1: Find it, you know what I'm saying.

00:31:51
Speaker 3: Whatever they roll out with the trash on the court, then Steph guard him.

00:31:54
Speaker 1: He'll be all right.

00:31:56
Speaker 2: So over forty seven and a half for you, I agree, I think right that forty eight Actually I'm gonna I'm gonna go under, but I could see them being forty six to forty nine wins in that frame.

00:32:09
Speaker 1: So if they're under it, stop by much.

00:32:14
Speaker 2: Next up that Los Angeles Clippers coming straight off the tree scandal, which is fun. It's not the tree we smoke.

00:32:25
Speaker 1: I think it's like real trees. If I'm not mistaken, Can anyone connect, you know? Scamming bark Man, I don't know what they was doing. Then boys out there, them boys at there.

00:32:35
Speaker 2: I see Clipper basketball court everywhere and then when I start seeing Clipper trees, I'm gonna lose my motherfucking mind. But Clippers are slated at forty seven and a half last year fifty wins. When Kawhi showed up and played, Kawhi was one of the best players in the world twenty six and eleven. And you know, just talked to me on Kawhi because you had a young Kawhi and they had to get you out of it because they felt like you was getting a little bit too much into wise mind.

00:33:01
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean you could easily see the talent he had. I mean when I was there, you know, he started coming to the house. Once they figured that out, they knew what was going on. So I get it, I get it, I get it. I've been to cancer at times. But yeah, man, you could tell he was talented. But to see what he did with everything going on in San Antonio to win that championship and win MVP. He didn't go to Toronto to now, you know, dealing with the knee injuries. He's still one of the best power forwards in the league, I mean, small forwards in the league.

00:33:29
Speaker 2: Absolutely, no question. I think I don't know if he'll be a comeback player because I think he's too good to have this. But I think Bradley Beal's gonna have a chip on his shoulder. The Phoenix situation was a fucked up situation. Management whoever put that together horrible move because you have three similar players. But I think people forget the knock on Bradley was he was playing on a bad team and putting up great numbers. I still think he's probably one of the best two guards in the game, and I feel like all the shit talking that was on him the last few years, I feel like he is gonna come out and try to prove a point, and I think Adams will take a step back from, in my opinion, from trying to score as much. I think James will be around like a seventeen point triple double guy this year and allowing Bradley to step up and be more of a score obviously Kawhi scoring than John coy liked John Collins from he was in Utah last year, but he was in Atlanta, right. Yeah, I really like John Collins a lot. I just think he hasn't really been able to get spect his wings and then to me, one of the most underrated players in the game.

00:34:23
Speaker 1: Is Zubotin magic made that trade?

00:34:26
Speaker 2: I think for Mike Muskala and Zuebox has went from the Lakers to the Clippers for nothing pretty much and has been one of the most consistent bigs that's not talked about in the game. So they have an incredible starting five of a hardened Beal, Kawhi, Leonard, John Collins and Zubots and then our brother CP three. He was able to come back home. Shout out Chris for his last year, Chris Dunn who's tough on the defensive end, Derek Jones asked some athleticism, and then Brook Lopez who's been the anchor in Milwaukee for a long time. So Jack, what are they? Forty seven and a half? Nate over under forty seven and a half for the Clippers.

00:35:00
Speaker 1: Under under Yeah. But I will say this about Bradley Beal.

00:35:03
Speaker 3: I don't want to say it was wasted basketball, but he was too good and he played too to a lot of good basketball and a bad places that should have been on the good team somewhere. I think he would have the way he was playing. He was just on a bad team, man. And that's what I don't want to say wasted basketball, but that's basically what it was.

00:35:18
Speaker 2: I mean, he was to me, he was one of the best two way players in the game for a while, and then I think he went to Phoenix and whatever happened over Phoenix happened in Phoenix. But I really like him, and I'm gonna go over forty seven and a half for the Clippers because I believe in that team, and I believe in t Lou.

00:35:33
Speaker 6: From djis do y'all expect when he had any improvement.

00:35:39
Speaker 1: Of the season.

00:35:42
Speaker 2: Is the pigs pussy pork. You don't like pork. So why would you make that analogy? Because you're baking pictures all the time and you get at him. Yeah, I didn't say I eat it. I'm it's an analogy exactly what it was. It's not of course he will, of course he will. I mean all the shit he'd been doing this summer, Buddhist monks and Kevin Garnett mixed with Wimby, that's not just man. Just put all that in the cup, right and drink it. I throw some tequila and there's some reposodo.

00:36:07
Speaker 3: He's gonna have a great year. He's gonna I'm talking about. I think he's gonna average close to a quadruple double. I really think that, Bro, I really think that because the way he was came in in preseason and some of the moves he's made.

00:36:19
Speaker 1: He wasn't making no strong moves last year. You know what I'm saying. So it's scary.

00:36:23
Speaker 2: Bro. He grew two inches, and let's keep in mind, he was on pace for Defensive Player of the Year last year before he got hurt.

00:36:28
Speaker 1: He can't grow no more.

00:36:29
Speaker 2: He said, he grew too. They say he's seven five now, right, They say he grew two inches. That they must have stretched him out when he was They was shaving his head.

00:36:35
Speaker 1: But everybody's gonna start going to the temple man.

00:36:38
Speaker 2: Yeah, seven five. I love Wemby. I think he could be top five. My sleeper in the MVP conversation this year. I don't know for covering yet, but Polo Bon Cheryl, Orlando Young, I think he will be. I think he's gonna make a big jump. I think adding the boy from Memphis what's his name, Baine Baine is now and I think a natural third row. I don't think he was a second option. I think now he'll be a great third option, shoots the ball, plays defense, a lot of toughness. He's got them t Rex arms. But the boy can great backup line back. Yeah. So from three they say he has to bend over to tires waistband, but that boy can play some basketball.

00:37:22
Speaker 1: So my lord, my lord, is he man?

00:37:39
Speaker 4: The other question, Okay, forty year old bron versus forty year old MJ one b one?

00:37:45
Speaker 1: Who do y'all got?

00:37:47
Speaker 2: Get off the gas, y'all? God damn, I think MJ. To be honest with you, nobody's beating MJ one on one. The only person possibly could is Kobe. I think forty to forty, I would go MJ.

00:38:05
Speaker 1: Yeah.

00:38:06
Speaker 5: Uh.

00:38:07
Speaker 2: The East Tern Conference people are mad at me because I said I don't know if the Mike Brown experience will work, and maybe I used some words I shouldn't have used because I had been drinking. But I still feel like Mike is a great coach. And you and I have different perspectives because he was so instrumental in your career and to get it going.

00:38:25
Speaker 1: He was detrimental to my career trying to pluck me.

00:38:31
Speaker 2: That's a nast, But overall, I'll say Mike Brown is a great guy, great guy, great personality. But I think what hurts him in this game is he's two nice at times and he wants to be cool with everybody, so when he tries to turn the mean switch on, like, people don't believe it when they see it. So what I've seen in the handful of years when I had him in with in La and then he made a pit stop in Golden State where I think he's soaked a lot of game up and got better as a coach, and then but then when he got back to Sacramento, his first year is solid because he's a breath of fresh air. He has some new concepts, very smart basketball mind. But I think after that guys kind of start looking at him a little different.

00:39:12
Speaker 1: So I hope I'm wrong.

00:39:13
Speaker 2: I'm good with being wrong, and I'll be the first one to come out here and tell you motherfuckers, I was wrong. But as far as a long term play, I don't know if Mike Brown's the answer, But I hope again, I hope I'm wrong.

00:39:26
Speaker 1: Fifty three and a half wins Jack.

00:39:27
Speaker 2: Last year they were fifty one and thirty one, lost to Indiana and six in the Eastern Conference Finals. All time choke get in Game one, which was crazy year four of Jalen Brunton Era year two with Kat, Brunton and Bridges. They swapped TIBs for Mike Brown the rotation Brunson, Bridges, Og, Kat, Mitchell, Robinson, Hart McBride. I like Clarkson and how you say his last name?

00:39:54
Speaker 1: I like him.

00:39:55
Speaker 2: I don't know how to say his name, but I really like Himsell Brunt. Brunson took a lot less money to make things happen for this team, which I don't think people have recognized or said, but shout out to him for, you know, obviously doing what he feels his best to help his team win. In the Brunton Air they have forty seven wins, fifty wins and fifty one wins. Brunton is that twenty six and seven one of the most clutch players in the game with forty eight, thirty eight and eighty two splits. Kat is that twenty four and thirteen of fifty three, forty two and eighty three splits.

00:40:29
Speaker 1: Jack New York.

00:40:30
Speaker 2: The Eastern Conference is not as tough as it normally is with Boston being depleted. Do you see them over fifty three and a half wins this season.

00:40:40
Speaker 3: I see him right under that. But the sad part is Dan ain't want shit in a long time. All they do is blame their coaches. Yeah, you notice that. I understand the coaches leading the team when the last time y'all want some shit, y'all just gonna keep blaming the coach.

00:40:53
Speaker 2: But I but do you do you not think that Thibodeau runs guys into the ground. I mean he's had an mo of that for a long time of just going and if I'm.

00:41:01
Speaker 1: A player, I love it from a standpoint.

00:41:03
Speaker 3: And paper TI So I really don't know what they say by that. We like some certain ship that we like coaches to be hands on the bill, a little tougher, you know what I'm saying.

00:41:11
Speaker 1: We respect that. Oh yeah, I'm not mat it.

00:41:14
Speaker 3: We got a lot of we got a lot of babies in the game now, So maybe that's what rob people.

00:41:18
Speaker 1: Okay, Well, welcome, welcome that he go. Hey, the mad one, the mad one. We'll here. The mad one is here.

00:41:28
Speaker 2: I've been Max, Come on, Max, Max Max. They've been waiting on.

00:41:30
Speaker 1: Max. Max is here. Max is here, Max is here.

00:41:36
Speaker 2: Hey, I need someone to pull good to see you, bro, I need someone to pull maver the movie Booty Call with Jamie Fox and Tommy Davidson.

00:41:44
Speaker 7: Now, what the hell Booty Call got to do with me? His hair do?

00:41:49
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna pulled aside by side Max taking.

00:41:54
Speaker 7: The word.

00:41:55
Speaker 1: God, damn, give me a stocking cap.

00:42:00
Speaker 7: No, I don't know where I got Damn.

00:42:05
Speaker 2: Hey, someone pulled me up a side by side and tell me I'm lying if I'm lying and flying?

00:42:09
Speaker 1: But maxwellcer Man, we appreciate you coming in. We heard you have a little bit of fly, but you made it man.

00:42:14
Speaker 7: I love this ship.

00:42:16
Speaker 1: What's going on with you? Max?

00:42:18
Speaker 2: We're live it well, we're live streaming right now, so we like they talking to us?

00:42:21
Speaker 8: Yeah, talking to We were just fucking we sing all still okay, but still okay.

00:42:26
Speaker 1: What's going on with you? Man?

00:42:28
Speaker 7: It's man, just been a lot of ship, like a motherfucker show all these motherfuckers.

00:42:36
Speaker 1: Did you bring your clubs?

00:42:38
Speaker 7: No? No, I want you want to play?

00:42:41
Speaker 1: Come on?

00:42:41
Speaker 7: I always want to call your ass the other night, motherfucker?

00:42:44
Speaker 1: Did you Yes?

00:42:44
Speaker 8: I have called you all the motherfucker motherfucking four months straight.

00:42:49
Speaker 1: And I talked to you last week.

00:42:53
Speaker 8: I know we did, Jack, But damn it. I've been calling, but fo, I gotta get on this ass.

00:43:00
Speaker 1: I talked to you.

00:43:01
Speaker 7: I missed.

00:43:02
Speaker 1: I ain't seen your sins.

00:43:03
Speaker 3: So the Big Three we have been playing, we have we have been playing on tag.

00:43:07
Speaker 1: Okay, So don't blame it on me, just.

00:43:09
Speaker 2: Me blaming on the weed, not my whole, just me, because when I have my kids, I don't even be about.

00:43:14
Speaker 1: You forgot me. Talked last week.

00:43:16
Speaker 7: Yeah we did.

00:43:19
Speaker 1: Put on, Nate. Keep that. Don't don't take that away, Nate. Yeah. Max, Congratulations is when I need to just pick up when you walk in the building, but us everywhere.

00:43:31
Speaker 2: Yes, congratulations in order your your Florida stats have been recognized and you are back at top as the all time leading scorer of the Florida Gameors.

00:43:39
Speaker 1: Congratulations bro, yes.

00:43:42
Speaker 7: Sir, thank you Florida doing the right damn thing.

00:43:46
Speaker 8: But we talked about that show, you know, allus, all y'all, everybody played a hand in that ship.

00:43:52
Speaker 1: Man.

00:43:52
Speaker 3: Get me appreciated that you deserved. It is only right man.

00:43:56
Speaker 8: Yes, it was a blessing man, especially for my moms.

00:44:00
Speaker 7: Just my moms.

00:44:01
Speaker 1: She's eighty to ship. Oh goodness, where were you at and you found out I was smoking some dope.

00:44:09
Speaker 3: Uh answer, Yeah, so you got all the smoke socks on.

00:44:17
Speaker 7: You give me some motherfuck You got some motherfucker.

00:44:22
Speaker 1: Marathon socks just today.

00:44:23
Speaker 7: I gotta get some geared Jolani.

00:44:26
Speaker 2: And you also got a new show, right, talk about your new show with Bubba.

00:44:30
Speaker 1: No, Well, what happened?

00:44:32
Speaker 8: Dub gonna be apart because you know we just had mouth surgery.

00:44:37
Speaker 7: You had Yeah, Dub just had mouth surtain.

00:44:43
Speaker 1: I talked to send the prayers out and broke.

00:44:47
Speaker 7: Get healthy, boy. But I'm gonna hold of dime for you.

00:44:51
Speaker 2: Okay, U Nate, Let's get back into the show. Man Max is here, we can add his insight. Okay, we're at the Orlando Magic. Just this season, fifty and a half is the number. Last year they were forty one and thirty one. Paulo played only forty six games, Suggs only played thirty five games, and Wagner only played sixty So obviously those guys need to be healthy to make a move. But I really like this young Orlando team that added Desmond Bain as we talked about and Jace Richardson. Shout out to Jay rich Don Julio his son at a Michigan State had a had a nice summer lost cole Anthy and KCP. Big expectations for this young team were Suggs, Polo, and Franz all over under twenty five they were dead last and three point shootings, so they're definitely gonna have to improve there and I feel like Bin will help improve that. At forty one, Richard should shout over forty in college. This is a good young team led by Jamal Mosey. He's the coach over there still right, shout out Jamal. I think this team is headed in the right direction and they did it the old fashion where where they built and made solid free agent acquisitions. The big question and what is the ceiling for this team? They have not won a playoff series in Polo's era, but that's no fault to him. At Man's averaging thirty a game in the playoffs. They've been the bottom of the ten, bottom tenth offense every year in Paulo's era. Do they finally make a jump this year? So let's talk about the magic. Where do we see them and again in a depleted Eastern Conference? Jack, what do you think about this team? Are they over fifty wins to begin with, Yes, I think they will have a better year than last year.

00:46:29
Speaker 3: I think those growing pains and those learning experiences and guys being hurt, I think that gave them a lot of most motivation coming into this year. Like I said, those guys are young, so they still learn how to take care of their body and all.

00:46:40
Speaker 1: This stuff too. And like I said, Polo play a lot of minutes.

00:46:42
Speaker 3: They relying on him a lot, so I think, you know, so he learning during the season how I need to take care his body and pace to continue to carry this team. So even when like we talk about the coach too, when our homeboys, and I think, you know he went, he's going through his growing pains as coach too. But the young guys trust him and I think they continue to grow over there.

00:46:58
Speaker 1: So I think they have They're gonna have a way better.

00:47:00
Speaker 2: And someone said Magic fans got heart Max thoughts on the Magic this year.

00:47:06
Speaker 8: Man, I love him man our young teams on the come up.

00:47:11
Speaker 7: I think they're gonna win fifty games. I really do. I think they'll be in the top three, top four. You know what I mean.

00:47:18
Speaker 8: They got a lot of I mean them damn Wagner boys. Yeah, brother, mentioned that motherfucker the White Hooks and got them play.

00:47:27
Speaker 1: Yes.

00:47:27
Speaker 8: Yeah, so Frans Wagner and all the the man I love that team.

00:47:31
Speaker 7: I like what they got. I love that coach.

00:47:33
Speaker 1: Play hard too.

00:47:34
Speaker 7: Yeah, absolutely, yeah, yeah they brought into the system.

00:47:36
Speaker 2: So yeah, I think it's gonna be good. And it couldn't come at a better time with the East hurting a little bit again. Boston was the big brother of the East, and they're definitely down this season and.

00:47:47
Speaker 1: Is out for the entire season.

00:47:49
Speaker 2: So I mean that puts, you know, you think about the Knicks, you think about Cleveland, you think about if trusting the process finally.

00:47:54
Speaker 1: Trusts this year with Philly.

00:47:57
Speaker 2: But it's going to open up holes four or Land though, open up holes for Detroit. Good young teams in the Eastern Conference. So I think we all agree there'll be over fifty wins.

00:48:07
Speaker 3: You know, I wish you would have went to Indiana Russ Russ because Holly gonna be.

00:48:13
Speaker 1: Down all year and there, Oh my.

00:48:19
Speaker 7: Say, with this bullship, y'all got to stop.

00:48:22
Speaker 1: With just hey, hey, can the live streams see this? Can the live stream see the scream?

00:48:41
Speaker 7: Give my motherfucker stocking cow man?

00:48:44
Speaker 1: Hey can the chats. There's some move, man. Can the chat see this chat? Can the chat see this? Hey?

00:48:54
Speaker 2: Can the live stream see what we're talking about?

00:48:57
Speaker 7: Look at this nigga?

00:48:59
Speaker 2: Jacky Jack Just Jack just graduated from that though, So that's why he can't.

00:49:03
Speaker 1: Laugh too shy.

00:49:04
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Jack, just Jack just left that phase right there.

00:49:10
Speaker 1: He can swinging there. You gotta watch his eye and there.

00:49:14
Speaker 3: It took him five years to get there.

00:49:20
Speaker 1: She will be all right. Max.

00:49:21
Speaker 7: Oh my goodness, man, Oh my goodness.

00:49:24
Speaker 1: I think I was coming in this. I just I just know, get right, he ain't gonna let you make it. But I think me talking about go help it grow?

00:49:32
Speaker 8: Oh boy, please let this motherfucker.

00:49:35
Speaker 2: Yeah, the seventy six ers, Man, I think this is a big year for this team. From a standpoint of if and B can't stay on the court, how much longer do you let him? And I say, with a due respect, kind of hold back the franchise. He's making a ton of money.

00:49:50
Speaker 1: Not just him.

00:49:52
Speaker 2: Oh Pg's out there too, he's coming off to Lee surgeries. But how long what he's been But but Embid has been there for a long time. And when we've trusted the process and I think we did the last year with playoffs. He's played nearly five hundred games in his career and he's missed almost four hundred and how many over four hundred? Yeah, yeah, So he's played a little bit over five hundred and missed a little bit over four hundred. So I mean that's a coin flip if you're gonna have your best player every night, and that's tough at any level, but particularly the highest level to win. But anyway, forty four and a half last year, they were twenty four and fifty eight.

00:50:25
Speaker 1: Nasty season.

00:50:25
Speaker 2: Mbat only played nineteen games, PG played forty one, Maxi played fifty two, and McCain played twenty three.

00:50:32
Speaker 1: I think McCain is due back soon. VJ.

00:50:35
Speaker 2: Edgecumb is gonna be a fucking problem. We know the star on that team is Maxi, the new up and coming stars.

00:50:42
Speaker 1: He's gonna be the reason they trade somebody. Watch Watch. They gonna give him the keys. He's tough, super bouncy two.

00:50:49
Speaker 2: Him and Maxi to go back, go back, one slight night, PG and Embiider both owed over three hundred million combined my law through twenty twenty nine. They have no choice but to make it work. Both players could be very hard to move at this stage in their careers. So we're gonna see what kind of GM.

00:51:10
Speaker 1: What's his name, what's the boy's name? From Houston?

00:51:13
Speaker 7: From Houston, mari oryl Mar Grory.

00:51:15
Speaker 2: We're gonna see you really put your shit to the fan this year, if you can make some stuff happen.

00:51:20
Speaker 1: But we're gonna see.

00:51:20
Speaker 7: I hope.

00:51:21
Speaker 2: I talked to PG not too long ago. He said he's feeling a lot better. He had two procedures on his knee. If he can come out and be an eighteen eighteen to twenty pointy game, but it was an old injury they said they found.

00:51:33
Speaker 1: On his knee.

00:51:34
Speaker 7: They say they found if.

00:51:36
Speaker 2: He could be in the eighteen to twenty range, you know what, Max, he's gonna be a plus plus twenty. You know, if in be's healthy, he's plus twenty. We don't know what edge Comb's gonna be. We know McCain was on pace to be Rookie of the Year before he got hurt. So are they above forty four and a half. Let's just say they're gonna be healthy this year in a depleted Eastern Conference, they above forty four and a half wins, max shit.

00:51:57
Speaker 8: If they're healthy and that their motherfuckers winning more than forty four, the goddamn we're looking at sixty fifty five.

00:52:04
Speaker 1: I'm not mad the East of Dawn this year.

00:52:06
Speaker 7: The motherfuckers just gotta stay here there, Jack.

00:52:08
Speaker 2: You've got a booty face when he said that, I don't believe it. You don't agree. I don't believe.

00:52:14
Speaker 1: I don't believe it. I don't believe.

00:52:16
Speaker 2: So under forty under like a motherfucker. I'm gonna go over. I'm gonna go over. We shall see. I think they could be my dark if they're healthy, they're my dark horse coming out the East.

00:52:28
Speaker 1: Did you see what MB doing pre sing when they played him?

00:52:31
Speaker 2: If they're looking Hell, he's cold's like that all the time, every time you're on the court.

00:52:36
Speaker 1: It looked like that. But what happened when he's not out there? You don't know his stants when he's not out there, they're.

00:52:43
Speaker 2: Not good, not good.

00:52:45
Speaker 1: They're not good.

00:52:46
Speaker 6: Uh.

00:52:47
Speaker 1: Of the young up and coming team. I'm happy to see doing well.

00:52:50
Speaker 2: The Detroit Pistons forty six and a half wins last year.

00:52:54
Speaker 1: Excuse me, forty six.

00:52:55
Speaker 2: And a half is the number this year over under, he had forty four wins last year. Cade is now a Superstars. The safety to say that he is a Superstars. Third team All NBA last year looked great. In the preseason, Projected started lining up Kay Cunningham, the other Thompson twins, Jade and Ivy, Tobias Harris and Jalen Duran. Ivy and Duram get extensions, so they're playing for money this year, so you know they gonna come out and be the best they could be. Jack, what do you think about this young team? And they also got another coach over there? Who's there? Who's their guy over there? Who's the head coach of bigger, bigger staff, bigger staff. That's right, then you get fired for some bullshit and he had a great season. This team where you gotta see again. Uh, you know, kind of a down year for the Eastern Conference, but this is a good young team similar to Orlando. Jack forty six and a half or plus.

00:53:44
Speaker 3: I'm going more okay, because I love this young team. I love the coach, I love the energy they playing. They're playing hard. Kade is coming into his own being one best, one of the best players in the league. But they are one player away from making that big step, and I think Tobias Harris and somebody needs to get rid of and get them somebody else can get I'm just saying. I'm just saying it's not It's just it's not to demean.

00:54:09
Speaker 1: What I'm saying is.

00:54:10
Speaker 3: He doesn't he said piece, he's a piece you can trade, and he doesn't fit the mold of that team.

00:54:18
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

00:54:19
Speaker 3: And a lot of places he's been to they want him to beat this big, tough, physical guard. They can come in and you know he's never been that guy's in Detroit. The way they played basketball. We know Detroit basketball. He doesn't pick that Detroit Max.

00:54:30
Speaker 2: Before we give him your talk, Tito Peterson said, Max looks like a grown up Criss Cross. Damn, Tito, Ain't that's some ship with just bullshit.

00:54:39
Speaker 7: Man, I'm gonna take this ship out somewhere. Get this taken out tonight.

00:54:45
Speaker 2: Tonight Max thought about the Pistons this year, young up and coming team in the Eastern Conference.

00:54:51
Speaker 8: No, I think it's gonna be over forty six wins. Yeah, easy, kids, A man, I mean you see what he's doing in the preseason. I mean he's letting everybody know, goddamn right now, I'm getting ready to take over. I'm gonna be one of these motherfuckers you'all gonna be talking about now. And that's my young boy. I love Kate and the Thompson Twins.

00:55:10
Speaker 1: You know, he's a.

00:55:11
Speaker 8: Dog, you know, on defense, he can't get crossed over like let motherfucker like uh my motherfucker man hit him between the legs, brun saying with the game winner. He got to you know, but you know when you when you play defense, what the you talking about?

00:55:30
Speaker 7: Yeah, Mike, you would a bunch of ship? You want to he fucked me up?

00:55:35
Speaker 1: Happy to play?

00:55:36
Speaker 7: Yeah, you gotta play?

00:55:37
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah.

00:55:38
Speaker 8: And I love him for that because he he is a defensive player minded person, so he thinks defense first. And you gotta have motherfuckers like that on the team, you know, to play defense and don't even the offense.

00:55:48
Speaker 1: Ship.

00:55:49
Speaker 8: Whatever you gets on the offensive end, it's a plus. So but yeah, I love those guys, and I like the big boy in the middle. They got d Yeah, I love that mother getting better and better. I mean, obviously he can't shoot work ship, but he do all that work on that he do all that dirty part.

00:56:06
Speaker 1: They'll figure it out, obviously.

00:56:09
Speaker 8: Coleridge, Yeah, just like him, Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely.

00:56:19
Speaker 1: Just like him.

00:56:21
Speaker 7: Yeah yeah, just like great, that's great.

00:56:24
Speaker 2: I love that ship the game, Okay, obviously, I think the playoff experience last year with the Knicks is gonna help a sure and Ron Holland time to take the next step. Good young Core added Carrislervert and Duncan Robinson. He's been taking a lot of money, but he's been making a lot of three pointers. But he's stealing a lot of money in the league. But Duncan boy some depth. Yeah.

00:56:50
Speaker 1: Yeah, anybody can shoot. Chris just to shoot. I can shoot. In Detroit, they picked him up at donuts. Duncan Donuts.

00:57:01
Speaker 2: Oh Stuart, he a big boy, right oh yeah yeah yeah, yeah yeah yeah.

00:57:07
Speaker 7: Oh you're talking about the boy from Detroit.

00:57:09
Speaker 1: They lost, weird, he said, he kind of weird. They lost.

00:57:13
Speaker 2: They lost beat the way he because anyone signed him yet No, okay, yeah, he's still so what just fucked up because what he got cleared by the fees, but then they said he may not be that's a that's a deeper die because that ship could have fucked his career. He was on pace to get him what a sixty bag from Detroit?

00:57:33
Speaker 7: Yeah, and then they accused him of cheating.

00:57:35
Speaker 3: They they found out he didn't cheat, but now they're still like, what's what's Mayba, what's the problem.

00:57:43
Speaker 1: That's bullshit? That's crazy.

00:57:46
Speaker 2: Damn Are we over everyone to agree? We're over forty six unanimous?

00:57:53
Speaker 1: Yes?

00:57:54
Speaker 2: Next up chat, will we talking about m v P favorites outside of s G and Jokic.

00:58:01
Speaker 1: I want to chat to chime in. Who do you guys?

00:58:03
Speaker 2: Everyone in the chat, give me one guy they feel outside of s G, A and Jokic they could be in the m v P conversation. I gave my guy ready. I think Paula will be in the m v P conversation this year. Anybody who's someone you got JACKO, Max.

00:58:19
Speaker 1: Jaleb right in your face. Yes, I'm going Anthony Edwards.

00:58:27
Speaker 2: Anthony Edwards Wemby conversation.

00:58:32
Speaker 7: He's gonna be and he's gonna be that what you doing, man?

00:58:35
Speaker 2: He might mess around, I mean outside of winning the championship, he might pull some Ada Wilson out of his ass. M v P and defensive he can do it. He can do it, no question. Basketball. Jack Absolutely, we didn't mention Luca. Luca with his new body that Jack doesn't like. Jack doesn't understand it, You don't get it. Ucas in there. He's third best odds, Jannis fourth best odds at plus eleven hundred.

00:59:03
Speaker 1: What else you got for its nasty night?

00:59:05
Speaker 2: Wemby plus twelve hundred, Yeah, excuse me, minus twelve hundred, So he's hot plus.

00:59:13
Speaker 7: Plus twelve hundred. That's a great, bad right there.

00:59:16
Speaker 2: I'm not mad at Wemby an what is a plus two thousand? Yeah, that's a great Those are all guys you get throw some bread on and get big. So who's odds on favorite? Those two? And do they have s G A or uh plus and the G plus?

00:59:32
Speaker 1: Okay?

00:59:32
Speaker 2: So Yokichs favorite to to get back on tracks out to be his fourth MV man.

00:59:36
Speaker 1: You know they're trying to keep them things.

00:59:38
Speaker 2: I got a question for y'all though, because we all played in the era where it was the end of an era for you and I, but you played in the air with big men. I love Jokic's game, but how would he fare in an era where he was seeing real centers every single night?

00:59:52
Speaker 7: That motherfucker do what he's doing right now. I think so it's got a high I kid.

00:59:57
Speaker 8: But the one thing to play, he cany that motherfucker him play.

01:00:01
Speaker 2: I'm not debating that. Hold on, Jack, keep your thought. But the one time he had trouble was against Dwight Howard and Jabale McGee, who were able to be.

01:00:09
Speaker 8: Just as Yeah, well are we talking about over did y'all do the over the fucking career when he played against the motherfucker's cause, I mean, this motherfucker can really play.

01:00:20
Speaker 2: But night and night out we all face shack, Tim Duncan, the David Robinson's, the ewings.

01:00:28
Speaker 1: He was, I mean he was.

01:00:30
Speaker 7: You're talking about if he played back.

01:00:32
Speaker 2: Saying if he played in the era where remember the thing he remember we came in the game where.

01:00:36
Speaker 1: We had to throw the ball in the post before.

01:00:37
Speaker 2: We did anything on the premier unless you had to feel it and they would play inside out, Jack, what are your thoughts if he played in the era of And this is no hate, We're not hating.

01:00:47
Speaker 3: We just having a discussion. Yeah, And That's where I'm I'm gonna go. I just feel like his i Q could play anytime because he has that that amazing basketball i Q but I just think his body and the way the big men played the game in.

01:01:02
Speaker 1: Our era, in his era, his body not built for that. His body not built for that.

01:01:06
Speaker 3: And then then again too, how many big men is he chasing from rim to rim?

01:01:11
Speaker 1: Now?

01:01:12
Speaker 3: The big men was running from rim to rim, you know what I'm saying, and it was getting the ball every player. He's not dealing with that.

01:01:17
Speaker 1: Now, he's dealing with a lot of screens and stuff.

01:01:23
Speaker 3: And and those big guys back then, I'm not the meaning this era, but they were filing for real, I'm sorry, and they were throwing punches.

01:01:33
Speaker 1: And all that. So I'm just saying it was just a different era.

01:01:36
Speaker 7: The goddamn brothers have to come out to stand.

01:01:39
Speaker 3: He wanted, he wanted, He probably wanted the coldest. He's in my top three big men of all time.

01:01:43
Speaker 1: But I just don't know.

01:01:44
Speaker 3: In the era and the way the game was built and played, I don't know if he could have handled that.

01:01:50
Speaker 2: The chat is saying Luca, Trey Young, and Jalen Brown in the m v P conversation, the guys that we can throw in.

01:01:56
Speaker 1: There, Young and j Brown, I rock with all them.

01:01:59
Speaker 2: I'm not mad at Trey young, it's twenty six and ten, twenty six and eleven.

01:02:03
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was that left field for me too.

01:02:04
Speaker 2: Your dog jaythen Brown is always wanted to be the number one option.

01:02:08
Speaker 1: So we're gonna see this show.

01:02:09
Speaker 2: Obviously it's gonna be tough because not only did they lose Tatum, which is by the way, Tatum is dunking.

01:02:15
Speaker 1: And running around already. This year is going on. But you lose, but you lose, you.

01:02:20
Speaker 2: Lose Holiday, you lose Porzingis and who else did they lose?

01:02:27
Speaker 1: Horford?

01:02:28
Speaker 2: Horford? Horford was the one I was talking about. Yeah, Horford. So we'll see about Boston band. Question go ahead, reading Nate.

01:02:39
Speaker 7: Hate ask question.

01:02:40
Speaker 1: Hold up, boy, hold on, now you paid some damn money?

01:02:44
Speaker 7: Boy? What you want me to say?

01:02:50
Speaker 1: Boy? I already known he pays some money?

01:02:54
Speaker 7: Won't Max say?

01:02:55
Speaker 1: So?

01:02:55
Speaker 7: What do you want Max say? Boy?

01:03:00
Speaker 8: The weird well me Dennis rob Man, it was a bunch of us motherfuckers, Charles old Clay, it was a bunch of us weird motherfuckers.

01:03:11
Speaker 1: Weird, that's what you're saying.

01:03:11
Speaker 8: The real ones he said, weird, weird, we are Dennis Robman. Fucking God, I forgive you, boy, I love you boy bites and daily.

01:03:26
Speaker 1: It was a weird one.

01:03:27
Speaker 8: I mean, I gotta get to him, but we had the same raiding, so I had to put him in the ship. And I hate to do that, but yeah, him and ship. There was a lot of weird motherfuckers. Now, yeah, just different.

01:03:44
Speaker 2: I think you're putting me on the spot because you haven't answer in your mind that I wasn't.

01:03:47
Speaker 3: No, No, I'm thinking think.

01:03:51
Speaker 7: Weird, weird, weird, weird, weird, no, weird.

01:03:55
Speaker 1: In a bad way.

01:03:56
Speaker 3: Yeah, easy take me that long, Aaron Davis, you put v D in this ship.

01:04:05
Speaker 1: We're smarter, not harder. Jack, you put b D.

01:04:09
Speaker 3: And yes, bro, the smartest and the weirdest person you'll ever yea at the same time.

01:04:15
Speaker 2: Yeah, shout out bed the Dancing with the Stars. Yeah he didn't last long, but did to do that? That takes a lot of courage. Shout out, shout out draft kings Man. They tapped in the chat. How about them Cowboys?

01:04:25
Speaker 1: Jack?

01:04:26
Speaker 2: How you feel about them cowboys? The Boys played well Yesterday'm not gonna lie doa for m VP.

01:04:30
Speaker 1: Absolutely best offense in the league. Again, we always we always score points. We just can't win away. Will they find a way to trick it off. Come playoff time, we won't.

01:04:43
Speaker 7: We won't.

01:04:43
Speaker 1: We're gonna win the super Bowl.

01:04:44
Speaker 3: This is our year, like every other year, said man, We're gonna win year.

01:04:52
Speaker 8: Like every chance to make you lose, chance to make the play, you lose the.

01:04:57
Speaker 2: Best defensive player in the game. But this is your year. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. Parson's had three sacks for the Packers. Right, yes he did.

01:05:07
Speaker 1: He did. Shout out Jerry Jones. We put up forty four points though, best offense in the league. What did they play? You played the Falcons?

01:05:13
Speaker 6: Right?

01:05:13
Speaker 1: The Nighters play who y'all play? Stop it? Who they play? Commanders with Jay? No, he was hurt. No, we heard him hurt. We hurt him.

01:05:21
Speaker 8: We put his ass out the game a little bit, a little bit, stop the game, Stop running so much little the game.

01:05:32
Speaker 3: Okay, I got out last, like Jay to say, knock yourself out, like you boxing yourself.

01:05:39
Speaker 1: Here we go.

01:05:40
Speaker 2: This pick six segment is brought to you by none other than Draft Kings for tomorrow's night matchup.

01:05:45
Speaker 1: I think s g A is going to have.

01:05:47
Speaker 2: More or less points then Draft Kings has him slated that will s g A have over in the season opener, what's SGA going for?

01:05:59
Speaker 1: Verse two? What one?

01:06:02
Speaker 7: I mean, Oh, I go Houston, he get mother getting hurt.

01:06:07
Speaker 1: He an't get at getting that has no no. Let me ask this.

01:06:13
Speaker 7: Taking the bar out of same it's hard to do.

01:06:16
Speaker 1: That should sound easier said than done. We've we've seen him do it to people though.

01:06:20
Speaker 3: We've seen in the playoffs, we've seen teams and coaches take bars out of the take the basketball of people hands.

01:06:25
Speaker 2: That's a big game, that's when, but that's when there's weak links on the courts. That's I mean, Oklahoma is a solid.

01:06:32
Speaker 7: That motherfucker needs, gonna need some help against this mother pa.

01:06:34
Speaker 1: And it's gonna be the biggest lineup he's he's see all year.

01:06:37
Speaker 2: Yeah, Houston's lineup is very long and tall.

01:06:41
Speaker 1: So I say no, so under.

01:06:44
Speaker 2: Y'all under seven first game and scene, I'm gonna go over.

01:06:49
Speaker 1: I'm saying, fuck it.

01:06:51
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's gonna come to the game, fly quiet and give them boys hell. Same game, Kevin Durant over under twenty five and a half when he makes his Houston Rockets.

01:07:03
Speaker 8: Excuse me, yes, more or less, but twenty five at least.

01:07:10
Speaker 1: Do that in his sleepless whole.

01:07:12
Speaker 3: Yeah, easy twenty five for him. I'm excited to see him in Houston. Producer Nate said, arguably, Kevin Durant is the greatest score we've ever seen, the most I would go efficient guard ever, I say, I said, inconsistent, consistent, its whole career ever.

01:07:31
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01:07:45
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01:07:48
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01:07:52
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01:08:07
Speaker 5: That's the goal away without me and you got it.

01:08:09
Speaker 1: Dave Payon cannot I'll talk to me. Man, He seen me in the bay.

01:08:13
Speaker 6: He was just like, oh, that brought that fire back out of.

01:08:16
Speaker 1: If you up here, I'm at the.

01:08:18
Speaker 5: Ceiling, you know, twenty years straight at this, twenty years straight.

01:08:26
Speaker 6: Y'all had to start off with him just to check his temperature. You know what I'm saying, because he used to pressing people and checking temperatures when he was in the league, like he was a bully.

01:08:34
Speaker 5: I ain't saying nothing like this before. You ain't saying nothing like this before. How did do everything everything at a league level? I time you, my age you was a age man on the bench. My time you, my age you was a man.

01:08:51
Speaker 1: Ain't what I like?

01:08:54
Speaker 6: I like reigniting that and the ogs. You know what I'm saying, Like, Yo, let me see if you still got it bruh ment to you.

01:09:00
Speaker 1: Know what I'm saying, Yeah, I love it. I'm looking at it. I know that face man.

01:09:08
Speaker 2: Season two of Starty five on Netflix is out. Now, what did you guys think? Obviously that was your era? GP was one of them, one of them was as far as playing and ship talking small.

01:09:20
Speaker 7: For that big motherfucker Small. You can't do nothing with that, mother. I don't know what it was.

01:09:25
Speaker 1: What about talking though? You know?

01:09:28
Speaker 7: GP the best at that. Yeah, you gotta get GP. That card me GP.

01:09:33
Speaker 8: Jack and it's a dramond and so you know we're gonna That's what.

01:09:43
Speaker 2: We do outside of in your era, who was the biggest ship talking besides yourself and GP.

01:09:50
Speaker 1: Ship because you'all can talk.

01:09:52
Speaker 7: Was a ship talking?

01:09:52
Speaker 1: Well, really, he's seem quiet her. I didn't know that. I didn't know that. That motherfucker really.

01:10:00
Speaker 8: Motherfucker talks so much. Ship, man, I couldn't stand that much.

01:10:02
Speaker 2: What about d CD, DC just had hands well yeah, d game yeah game, yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.

01:10:09
Speaker 7: D C was my man. We came out together. That's my that's my guy.

01:10:14
Speaker 1: Yeah.

01:10:14
Speaker 2: I love d two pep. I want to get to the show is. I want to get d C. And I want to get Billy Owens.

01:10:19
Speaker 1: I talk. I talked Cold with Billy Owens. The first point for cold.

01:10:25
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, Syracuse while we're there, Yes, Lawrence Moulton rescues man. That's one of them few guys as well. Man, that was my boy. We came out together.

01:10:35
Speaker 1: Yes, well man.

01:10:37
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01:11:10
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01:11:11
Speaker 8: Nice time to smoke something dope