Change is good: Cristopher Sánchez is Phillies stopper

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Speaker 1: Hi, this is James Mute. Welcome to the Philly Show.

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Speaker 2: Hi, everybody, Ruben Amoro Junior, Jim Salisbury, Toddswill Like it's the Philly Show. It's Friday, April eighteenth, twenty twenty five. Guys, how are we doing?

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Speaker 1: Bueno Bueno?

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Speaker 2: Oh? I love it. Oh, Bueno Bueno, double Bueno, double movie after Christopher. Oh that's right. Yes, we're in a Spanish speaking mood because of Christopher Sanchez. Guys, how about that yesterday? Huh? That was pretty fun to watch.

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Speaker 1: Deloso.

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Speaker 3: Oh I love it, James, I love it. You are bi lingual, delicioso. He was delicious.

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Speaker 2: He was delicious, Ruben, How delicious was he?

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Speaker 3: Ruben?

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Speaker 1: Delicious?

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Speaker 3: That change up was so ridiculous yesterday?

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Speaker 4: It was almost man against boys, a man against boys.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 4: He was not like an eighty five percent swing with rate against it, and he just kept using it. And there's some shadows to deal with, but I don't care. It was filthy and they you could have just literally told them, here comes a change up, good luck hitting it.

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Speaker 3: That was that good and you know you rushed the ninety seven.

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Speaker 4: He got the one guy that was Fitzgerald or Coss and kind of think I can't remember who it was. They rushed the fastball and froze him at ninety seven on the inside part of the plate, and I felt for the guy because I'm like standing there going that would have been no fun facing that he's looking for the change up and then busting that fastball on the inside corner front door.

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Speaker 3: Ridiculous.

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Speaker 4: He was really, really good man, And I love it because I love the kid.

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Speaker 3: I love what he's gone through.

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Speaker 4: I love the fact, you know, he's been paid now, which is great, but he wants to get.

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Speaker 3: Better and better and better, and it's really cool to watch him grow.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I love the inside inside the game. I mean, you know JT. Real Mudo, former high school quarterback, you know that necessarily wasn't in the game plan to throw excuse me, it wasn't in the game plan to throw fifty two change ups. But the former high school quarterback, you know, read what was working, called an audible and just wrote it and a lot of it was to do with it was tough to see because of the shadows, but Sanchez just executed and executed in Mexican, that's a lot of change ups, fifty change ups.

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Speaker 2: That was that was like, and so I want to I found some great numbers last night, just because from from Thursday's game, just because it was so unbelievable that change ups. First of all, Sanchez twelve strikeouts, most strikeouts by Philly's left hander in a game since Cole Hammil's is no hitter against the Cubs on July twenty fifth, twenty fifteen. Of course, that was his final start for the Phillies before Reuben you traded him to the Rangers, probably him exactly, so he struck out eleven. As Jim mentioned, one of you guys mentioned, he struck out eleven of those batters on change ups. Since pitch tracking began in two thousand and eight. That is tied with Alex Cobb and Luis Castillo for most strikeouts in a game on changeups. He had twenty two swings and misses on changeups, the most whiffs in a game on a change up since two thousand and eight, and then one other one. I looked this up last night. Since Sanchez got in the rotation on June seventeenth, twenty twenty three, he has an MLB best one hundred and sixty four strikeouts on changeups. Second best is Trek scooble Well one hundred and twenty seven. So, I mean, you know, he's he's got an unbelievable change up. We know it, but we really got this watch it yesterday. It was a lot of fun. Bob Melvin after the game said, chadows were a little challenging, but he's like, the thing about that is his changeup looks exactly like a sinker, exactly like a sinker coming out of his hands, So you know, they were kind of it's kind of like, yeah, we were in deep trouble and.

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Speaker 5: His sinker is ninety eight, which, yeah, which is the reason that change up one of the big reasons that change up plays so great.

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Speaker 1: And you know, the four.

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Speaker 5: O'clock start was big because the shadows crept in made it tough to see. The Giants are in the middle of seventeen straight games without a day off. They started in the Bronx, they came to Philadelphia and they had to fly all night to get to Anaheim, where they play on Friday night. They were not happy with the four o'clock start, simply because it made for a long night of travel. They would have preferred a one o'clock start, but the Phillies played that game at four o'clock and it really behooved Christopher sung chees.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I will say this also, I'm really impressed by the San Francisco Giants the way they handled the bat. I mean, they extra base hits, all the things that they're sort of trying to do. I talked to Pat Burrell, who was one of our guests earlier. It's really great to you. Guys should go check out that. Pat Burrell is a really cathartic sort of podcast. He talked a lot about his own personal stuff that he's gone through and it's.

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Speaker 3: A really good one.

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Speaker 4: But the fact that he is now the hitting coach there sort of they're implementing some old school values there. See it and hit it, hitting in the middle of the field. They know they don't have a lot of home run hitters, but there's a lot of space at Oracle Park to get extra base hits. He just wants to have his hitters make good contact, see the ball, hit the ball, use the middle of the field, and they did that really well against the Phillies, and that's pretty damn impressive offense.

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Speaker 1: For him and the Phillies.

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Speaker 5: Can I point out I totally agree with you what he's doing over there there, and you know that's a smart way to approach your ballpark. They've got a new front office, Buster Posey is running the show there and then you know, bringing some some some tried and true baseball values back to that organization. But you talk about using the middlefield, putting the ball in play, having a good approach, I thought they the Phillies did that in the first inning on Thursday against a guy throwing one hundred and one, Jordan Hicks.

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Speaker 1: You know, they they put the ball play.

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Speaker 5: It found a couple holes, a couple you know, get through the infield, Alec Baum crushes one to center field, and the center field that can't make a play on it. It goes for a triple, And I thought it was a triple. Maybe Alec Baum's luck is turning a little bit, but I thought I saw a really good approach early. Like you said, put it in play us the midfield, middlefield. See what happens against a real hard thrower in Hicks in the Phillies.

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Speaker 1: So that was a good sign as well.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they need to do that. They've been struggling with the runners in scoring positions, so by any means possible.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 2: One of Jim, you mentioned Sanchez's velocity, and he came in the spring so much bigger and stronger, and visibly bigger and stronger. And his fastball yesterday averaged ninety six point three touched ninety eight. And of course he said, we asked him a lot in spring, like, you know, do you think he can maintain this velocity deep into games and deep into the season. He said, very confidently, Yes, I believe I ken. His last fastball last night, the seventh inning was ninety seven zero point six miles an hour. So he held it and.

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Speaker 5: Kept he's commanding it. But didn't he come to the Phillies. Didn't he come to the Phillies? Todd as a hard thrower, he came.

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Speaker 1: To the Phillies.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, Oh yes he did.

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Speaker 5: He was ninety six in the minor leagues. He just didn't know where it was going. The big approval for this guy to me is he knows where to put it, and he's he's really shined up that change up.

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Speaker 4: I've talked about this a little bit on the broadcast, and one of the things it takes a long time for a guy who's really long limbed and a guy, especially left handers, who to get their body in sync to get them you know, rolling and to get the consistency out of their delivery that they need. It takes some time sometime for these guys, and it took them a little bit more time than most great job by the scouting group of identifying this guy and also even better job by Caleb Koffam and by the kid himself to get himself to the point where he is one of the better left handers in all baseball now and super signing, I think by DAVIDM.

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Speaker 3: Browski's smart to get him early.

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Speaker 2: We are back, Jim. I was reading your story today on phl Y and you found something that I guess I didn't really know. Is that the Phillies are eleven and eight. It's the same record they had last season. Maybe this guy isn't falling.

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Speaker 1: We're very panicky. Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Now, if this if this season where a butterfly, it would be just emerging from the cocoon and stretching its wings.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know where it's going to go.

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Speaker 5: I like their personnel, but their personnel still has to play good.

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Speaker 1: And you know.

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Speaker 5: Last week they didn't play well, but that happens. They even on Thursday, that offense didn't sustain. You know, they get six hits for the day, five of them in the first inning, and they score all their runs in the first inning and then you know, Hicks really got it together. For these offense didn't do much. There's work to do. There's work to do. They didn't sustain. They need to sustain. The offense need to be The offense in general needs to be better. It's very concerned, still concerned about the outfield, especially center field, especially Kepo's work against left handers. I mean, I don't know if they're headed for a platoon in left field.

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Speaker 1: Maybe they're not.

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Speaker 5: But it was quite interesting to me that Otto Kemp played left field in high on Thursday. He is a right handed stick. He's a good right handed stick. He's been a good right handed stick in his minor league career. Struggles defensively, not really played a ton in the outfield, very little, but it's clear they're taking a look at him there. They took a look at him there. Could that be in play it somewhere some time down the road to a platoon and left field possibly.

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Speaker 1: I think it's always great to explore options. And now center field, to me is a major issue.

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Speaker 5: Marsh's not hit now, he's got a little knee tweak and the more I look at Rojas, I mean, this is not an original thought, but there's talent there. I just wonder if he needs to be playing every day, every inning in Triple A as a player development vehicle.

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Speaker 1: But who knows.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the outfields are concern. There's no question about it.

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Speaker 4: Not getting the kind of offensive production that you want, and in fact, defensively some gaffes as well. See that, and you know when you're a defensive specialist and you're making you know, defensive gas. See I don't know if he lost a grip on that one throw during the course of that series, but it was a terrible throw.

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Speaker 3: He's better than that. He's got to be a little bit more instinctive.

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Speaker 4: I understand the game a little bit better than to try to launch, especially when the guy wasn't going. He's got to hit the cutoff man. But you're right, he's talented. He's got to get it together. He's got to play better and and a lot of guys do I was sitting there getting prepping for the game, and I was putting the lineup in and I'm looking at Alec Boom hitting in the eighth hole, and I.

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Speaker 3: Just can't fathom it.

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Speaker 4: It's hard for me to just fathom and that's going to change, that's going but the fact that he's in an eight hole right now, and and justly, I mean, there's no reason why he's not in the aid hole. He's struggling, but it's just to me that it's hard for me to wrap my head around it because he's such a good hit and he really is a good hitter, is just not hitting. And uh, And I think he's gonna, you know, gradually move himself up. And he needs to, because if he doesn't, it's gonna be it's gonna be tough for the Phillies to create runs the way they should be creating runs.

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Speaker 3: But we'll see.

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Speaker 4: The One thing that does concern me a little bit about Alec Fohlm is he's never gotten to the point where he's pulling the.

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Speaker 3: Ball strong.

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Speaker 4: Consistently, and they're starting to pound him inside and they're and you know, I see where the outfielders are playing him and all that kind of stuff. Uh, that concerns me a little bit because at some point he's gonna have to learn to turn and burn on some pitches and and get to that fastball inside. I like the fact that he can use the whole field, but he's gonna have to be able to learn, like Charlie Manuel taught Ryan Howard years ago in the minor leagues, you got to learn how to get the ball out front every once in a while.

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Speaker 2: You know, he smoked that ball to center field in the first inning and it Luis Matos, I think it was in his glove and then it bounced out as he hit the wall, and and I couldn not help but think he's had so much bad luck the first few weeks of the season. Maybe something like that can get him going. And Jim, I saw you. You were talking with Alec in the clubhouse post game, and I saw Alex smile a couple of times. I did, I mean, it really jumped out, was like he is having an interview with Jim was a one on one, and I saw Alec smiling throughout most of the interview.

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Speaker 5: That's because that's because I told him. It's because I told him a dirty joke.

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Speaker 3: It's because you're a brilliant interviewer.

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Speaker 4: Jim Brilliant told him a dirty joke, bring out the best in these guys.

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Speaker 2: And what was the joke?

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Speaker 1: I can't tell it here, but two guys went into a bar.

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Speaker 2: But uh no, So I mean, you wonder maybe that's the type of thing he had that he had the you know, the go ahead hit the other night. Maybe he's said down now, maybe he's feeling better about himself so got us.

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Speaker 5: He's got to smile and let it happen. You can't play this game up tight.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: We talked a lot about that in Wednesday's episode with what Bryce said, and you know, Alec talked on the postgame with you Rubin and the postgame with us the reporters, and you know, just about his mindset and whatnot. But I want to ask you guys, while we kind of look back at this yeries before we talk about the next one. Aaron Nola A lot of concern about him. He's off du way, He's got six six five ERA after his first four starts. You know, fastball velocity isn't there. Although I did look at his fastball velocity last April's four seemers two seamer average ninety point nine miles an hour. It's ninety point seven right now. So maybe this is just, you know, maybe it's just he's a slow builder. But do you guys have any concerns about the way he's pitching in terms of him not being able to pull out of it or what? Do you think?

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Speaker 1: I have concerns.

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Speaker 5: Yes, Since twenty twenty one, him and Wheeler are like number one in three in innings in the Major League's carried a heavy workload.

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Speaker 1: He's north of thirty.

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Speaker 5: I have concerns, but I also don't rule out him digging out of it and building more velocity.

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Speaker 1: But you know, he's never been a power guy.

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Speaker 5: But if he doesn't have a little bit more velocity, he's gonna have to nibble.

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Speaker 1: And now we're seeing nibbling.

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Speaker 5: And if you miss your spot nibbling, it's a ball, and if you try to bring it back over the plate, you get hurt. It's it's kind of as Lenny Dykster said used to say, it's a two edged sword.

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Speaker 4: It was interesting to watch that game and how he it seemed like he's just his body or his mind or whatever. Was just not ready for the first inning, and then he locked it in for like that was vintage, you.

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Speaker 3: Know, Aaron Nola.

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Speaker 4: Over the next three or four innings, then he sort of started hit a little bit of a wall at the end. But you know, he can pitch at those velocities if he has the break and he has the.

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Speaker 3: Of the fastball that he had through those three or four innings.

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Speaker 4: He was really good and he can get swing and missing the breaking ball because it's good.

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Speaker 3: He tunnels his pitches.

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Speaker 4: Really well, that all of that stuff. But he's got to be able to really pinpoint his stuff because it is down right now.

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Speaker 3: I do believe it. He'll build it up. Don't know how much, but he'll.

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Speaker 4: Get to the ninety twos and ninety threes and an occasional ninety four I think at some point.

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Speaker 3: But he's not there yet.

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Speaker 4: And you're right, Jim, there's a lot of billets he's thrown and a lot of innings, and so it'll be interesting. I know he's healthy, he feels good. I think he's kissed off at himself. I mean it was pretty obvious that he's not pitching up up to par I mean, he said it himself was unacceptable. And I like that that he said that because it's not it's not acceptable for him, because he's a better pitcher than that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no doubt, he's got to get it figured out. And you guys were talking about the outfield earlier. Nick Castianos yesterday left the game he had some tightness in his left hip flexer. And just talked him real briefly after the game on Thursday, and he says he should be fine and ready to play on Friday, so that he just kind of felt it tighten up when he was trying to reach for the bag. I think that at bat in the fifth inning went out to the outfield, he started filling it tighten up. But he started one hundred and eighty three consecutive games. He says he doesn't care about the streak, but I also think he would like to keep the streak going if he can so. And also, man, that was the first thought that came out of my mind when he left the game yesterday. Oh boy, they cannot afford to lose Nick cassianis right now in the outfield because they are, as we said, very very thin. So Phillies play a three game series beginning Friday night against the Marlins. A pretty cool pitching matchup Friday night if you go into the old ball Yard. Yeah, oh yeah, oh yeah, Baby, Sandry Sandy Avgantra versus Zach Wheeler, Jim. You love pitching. You pay to see that, right.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, because you know our Contra always pitches like nine innings, two hits, one run, one walk, ten strikeouts against the Phillies.

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Speaker 3: And he loses one nothing and loses.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's so funny. He's great, and you know he's won of cy young Zach Wheelers finished second twice and you know, on top of it all, Sunday out of Cantra is going to be the darling of the July.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, sir, yes, sir. So I'm looking this up right now. I think one four or five six the Phillies the Marlins are one in seven in Sandy al Contra's last eight starts against the Phillies.

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Speaker 3: Crazy, he has a.

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Speaker 2: And he hasn't like pitched terribly. He has got a three seven six e r A in that time. But the last two times he pitched in twenty twenty three, fourteen and two thirds innings, one run, they lost both games. Yeah, believe Jim, your memory serves.

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Speaker 5: You well, Yeah, I just remember, and they always those games always like two hours and seven minutes. You know, you can you can get a nice postgame burger. I mean, you know they're good.

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Speaker 1: I like open.

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Speaker 3: I mean we were open.

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Speaker 4: The last big, big matchup with Sale and Wheeler was going to be a good one and they both, yeah, yeah, crapped on themselves. I do believe that that Wheeler's got a bit of a chip on his shoulder. And I know Sandy every time he wants to pitch, he pitches against the Phillies. He wants he's got a chip on his shoulder. He can see the competitiveness. I think the Wheelers not pitched as well as he would like. His command has not been there. I looked at some of the inside numbers today as I was prepping, and I thought, you know what, what are the whiff rates and that kind of stuff. They're actually still pretty good. His uh, his velosses are fine. I think Sandy al contras are down just the touch. He hasn't been as dominant so far this year, but you know he's coming off Tommy John. I mean he's not really the same guy, but he will be because he's still building up and I love his competitiveness. Uh, this is going to be a really good matchup because I think both of these guys have something to prove. And uh, it'll be fun to watch tonight.

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Speaker 1: Rubin.

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Speaker 5: If if he was still he was still a GM, you'd have Peter Bendix on speed dial trying a pray Sandy alf Away.

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Speaker 3: I would be giving up a lot for this. That young man. I love the way he competes.

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Speaker 4: I've watched him from he'd beat He might be my white whale as in.

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Speaker 3: Doc Halliday when when I was, you know, searching for that cat.

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Speaker 1: Remember you remember.

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Speaker 3: This guy is the way he competes. Man, he's awesome.

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Speaker 5: So when the Marlins had first, it was Mike Stanton, and then it became Jim Corler Stanton. Reuben used to always call their GM and try to get Jim color or Stanton.

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Speaker 1: Remember that.

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Speaker 5: And I asked you about it one day, And I asked him about it one day and he.

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Speaker 1: Says, I call about that one hundred times. I call about him all the time.

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Speaker 5: And didn't even slap down the wrist of the Commissioner's office for like tampering.

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Speaker 4: I don't know maybe I did, somebody did, But all I know is I tried to.

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Speaker 3: I offered my whole team, for my whole organization for the day.

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Speaker 1: Said that I think you said that.

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Speaker 3: It's true. I sent it to Mike. Uh, Mike Hill, I have the text, I think still, and.

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Speaker 5: You told me and I wrote it, and I think you actually got.

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Speaker 4: A letter organization in my in my system right now. You can have them all for Mike's stamp.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly right. What do you think, guys? If the offensive struggles continue, what do they do? You know? I think it's probably mostly they're going to go internally first, whether it's Weston Wilson or maybe it becomes auto camp at some point if they think he can play some left field. But I don't, you know, it's it's very very early to make a trade.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I agree at first, in internal see what you got. I think at some point twenty five. I think at some point I don't know when Crawford could.

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Speaker 1: Get a look.

00:26:08
Speaker 5: Not yet and not ready, yeah, not yet.

00:26:12
Speaker 1: It's not in the cards yet.

00:26:13
Speaker 5: But and if these internal things don't work and they don't get going and he's gonna have to look outside at the deadline. I mean, in a lot of ways, I think this deadline is going to look a lot like last year's deadline outfield the bullpen.

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Speaker 3: I will tell you this, I.

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Speaker 4: Knowing Dave Dombrowski and knowing how important this season is, I would not be at all surprised if they're not scouring the world right now.

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Speaker 3: For center field help.

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Speaker 1: Yep.

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Speaker 4: And I think it's something that or some level of outfield help somehow, some way, whether it's a right it's you know, should be a right handed bat.

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Speaker 3: Probably I don't know who that player is.

00:26:56
Speaker 4: I'd have to go back and just you know, review some things and really check out what's going on out there in baseball land a little bit more broadly. But I got to believe that Mike Gondo, the pro scotting director, and Dave Dombrowski and you know, all the people, maddeningly, I'm sure that they're they're looking for some help out there and or really eyeballing the development of Crawford, Otto, Kemp, all these guys, Weston Wilson. He's left handed, but I think your eyeball on all this stuff. And because you need to have more production from your outfield. There's no question about that. And and you know, like I said, I've said this before, Brandon, this is a huge year for Brandon marsh He It is so important for him to show people that he can be an everyday player. He's got the ability, he's got the talent, but you got to get it done at the major league level. And if you can't get it done, they're gonna be looking for somebody else who can.

00:27:56
Speaker 1: So that makes it a huge half year.

00:28:00
Speaker 3: Doubts are huge for him.

00:28:02
Speaker 4: And he's probably you know, I know, he's a big you know, he's a pretty emotional guy. And uh, he's gonna have to tone his emotions and and and go play the way he can play because he's got ability, and you know, I like, you know, I like, I love his ability, and he's had some success in the big leagues, but it's about consistency and he needs to get there.

00:28:20
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree with you guys. It's you know, Justin Crawford is not is not ready, you know, for I know everybody wants you know, he's asking about him, and I get why he's the top one hundred prospect. He's bat in two ninety right now in Lehigh Valley, seven hundred ops. But he definitely needs a lot more time.

00:28:35
Speaker 1: So let me just.

00:28:36
Speaker 3: Say something and the and so, just so so people understand this.

00:28:40
Speaker 4: The minor leagues and the major leagues are two totally different.

00:28:44
Speaker 3: Animals as far as pitching is considered.

00:28:46
Speaker 4: Especially with the pitching so far, you see crappy pitching right now at the major league level.

00:28:50
Speaker 3: It's even worse at the Triple A level by a long point.

00:28:54
Speaker 4: Okay, so I handled Triple A pitching better than anybody in baseball for a long time, and I couldn't do it at the major league level. And they're you know, there's even a bigger difference now. So let me just let people know. I think this guy's got ability, and I think he's gonna be a major league player. I there's the question about that, but you know, pump the brakes on Justin Crawford.

00:29:18
Speaker 2: Brandon Snavely on Blue Sky wants to know, will we be reanimating Chuck Kleine. We need a hot bat.

00:29:27
Speaker 8: Now.

00:29:29
Speaker 9: I would say that that was that that was probably far fetched. But I just did read a story about how some scientists brought back the dire wolf, which has been extinct for thousands of years apparently, so, uh, maybe we can bring back Chuck Kline.

00:29:45
Speaker 2: Although I got a hot take on Chuck Klin. You want to hear it, overrated Hall of Famer. He left handed bat.

00:29:53
Speaker 3: Some people off. There's gonna pissed off some seventy year olds.

00:29:56
Speaker 2: Baker Ball was like what at two hundred feet from the lightfield wall? Baker Bowl is two hundred feet from home plate or two eighty foot wall. You think Bryce Harper and Kyle Schwarber would hit playing the Baker Bowl? They have.

00:30:14
Speaker 1: Todd.

00:30:16
Speaker 2: You take Chuck Line out of Baker Boy, he's very average.

00:30:19
Speaker 5: You're making a lot of enemies in Indianapolis, where Chuck Kline was from.

00:30:24
Speaker 3: So nice, I know. Uh.

00:30:29
Speaker 2: Tweezer Jam on YouTube wants the best power hitter Ryan Howard, Mike Schmidt, Greg Lozinski, or Dick Allen. I'm partial to Ryan Howard since he's the only of these sluggers I've seen, but I'm curious on your opinions, who's the best pure power hitter out of those four? Howard Schmidt, the Bull, Richie Allen.

00:30:49
Speaker 1: Flay, Ribbi t Bone and Porterhouse or whatever, They're all good.

00:30:59
Speaker 3: Oh, that is the most political answer I've ever heard.

00:31:04
Speaker 7: Love.

00:31:04
Speaker 4: I love Mike Schmidt, I don't as far as pure power, I'm gonna say Ryan Howard.

00:31:11
Speaker 5: And Dick Allen. I shook his hand a few times. That thing was we can catch it.

00:31:17
Speaker 2: I mean, I've heard stories of some of those home runs that Dick Allen's I've never seen. I never saw Dick Allen play, but people did see in plays that he would hit these four and er fifty foot majestic home runs carrying a eight hundred ounce bat. So I'll say Dick Allen even though I never saw him play.

00:31:33
Speaker 4: Jennal, let me just say this about Ryan Howard, the man not blown out his achilles and had problems with his knee and all that kinetic issue on his left.

00:31:42
Speaker 3: Side in his lower half.

00:31:43
Speaker 4: Who knows this guy's limited on his power because he really he was not the same guy and didn't have the same protection obviously because of the players. But he was the best offensive player for five or six years in all of baseball, and the most dangerous even he was even better, like not as not as good as purator as poolholes, but just production line.

00:32:07
Speaker 3: He's better than poolholes.

00:32:08
Speaker 2: Yeah, you look at those numbers.

00:32:10
Speaker 3: Be a hall of fame.

00:32:12
Speaker 5: If my recollection is correct, because I remember writing this a ton. But I think during Ryan Howard's peak six years, six year stretch, I think he averaged forty four and one thirty.

00:32:26
Speaker 3: Thank you, who does that?

00:32:29
Speaker 2: Nobody not crazy numbers, crazy numbers.

00:32:34
Speaker 3: So don't forget.

00:32:35
Speaker 1: Ryan Howard was all, We're not forgetting. We've we've said they're all great.

00:32:42
Speaker 4: Last I got a guy because you know, his last few years were difficult, and it was difficult because he was signed and we signed him to a long term deal and the expectation was so much higher for the guy. But he wasn't the same guy because he wasn't at it, didn't have the same level of health.

00:32:56
Speaker 1: Tom Rubin, we all lived it.

00:32:58
Speaker 5: You lived at you know, boxes down, We lived it in the press box.

00:33:02
Speaker 1: We all loved it.

00:33:03
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean you still think about some of the home those home runs, big clutch moments that he had for the Phillies. Oh my gosh, last last one. This is a little off the beaten path. But T Montgomery ten on Instagram wants to no favorite movie? What are you watching? It comes on TV? Yeah, Yeah, everybody has one of.

00:33:25
Speaker 3: Those bottom movie freak So, yeah, I got mine. I saw.

00:33:30
Speaker 2: I'll tell you I just had the most unusual movie going theater going experience. I took my uh my wife, and I took our son Henry and our middle child, Margot to the Minecraft movie. Have you guys heard of this movie? If you guys know the video game at all, right, every teenage, middle school boy and high school boy loses their frickin' minds watching this movie. It was like going to Rocky Horror Picture Show, like a rock concert during the certain lines of the movie or being uttered, and these kids are rip roaring and plauding and cheering and screaming and shouting out the lines. I didn't know what the hell I was into. I was sitting in I'm sitting in this movie, and I turned my I have a go what is going on here? And at one point I start complaining. I go, I can't hear the dialogue. I don't know what they're saying. And then I step back and I said, am I really complaining because I can't hear the dialogue to the Minecraft movie?

00:34:24
Speaker 1: Hey?

00:34:24
Speaker 4: The Rocky Horror Picture Show reference, that's bonus man.

00:34:28
Speaker 3: That's serious sleep bonus.

00:34:31
Speaker 2: But I didn't have to think of my one of my favorite movies of all time. I love Caddy Shack. If I'm looking to laugh, that's like that's always a classic one. But yeah, I don't know what you guys have anything coming to meet?

00:34:43
Speaker 5: Well, I'm a sucker for a good chick flick, so I would say Steel Magnolary's.

00:34:47
Speaker 1: Or Beaches, Oh the Criers, I'm kidding. I'm kidding, that's true. No way, I'm gonna go. Kind of a split decision between and the Fugitive.

00:35:03
Speaker 2: Oh, you do love the Fugitive.

00:35:05
Speaker 3: I love the Fugitive second one or the third one? Or which one you.

00:35:08
Speaker 1: Going with Tommy Lee Jones and Harrison Ford.

00:35:10
Speaker 5: I love the closing scene when he gives him the ice pack and he undoes his handcuffs. He throws him up there and Harrison Ford says, thought you didn't care?

00:35:22
Speaker 1: And Tommy Jones says, I don't don't tell anybody. Love that scene.

00:35:28
Speaker 3: Great.

00:35:29
Speaker 4: I'm gonna go to my mainstay and it's the greatest movie by far of all time, and that's Shoshank Redemption.

00:35:35
Speaker 3: That's it's.

00:35:37
Speaker 4: Yeah, I love everything about it. I love the acting. I love the story. It doesn't get any better than that.

00:35:45
Speaker 1: For me.

00:35:46
Speaker 2: That movie is classic. That That is one of those movies when it does get on TV, you're like, oh crap, now I gotta watch this thing like buckle up. You know, anytime it's on TV, you gotta stop and watch Shawshank Redemptions. Thought is a good one. I love it. I love it. Guys. Uh, if you want, if you like The Philly Show, you can get a Philly Show t shirt at the Phillies Show dot com. Don't forget, and we will be back on Monday to look back at the Marlins series and look ahead at a big series next week up at Cityfield against the New York's Matt Guys, that was fun.

00:36:22
Speaker 1: Talk to you later, alrighty Smelly later, boys.

00:36:25
Speaker 3: Smady Jim.

00:36:26
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