2025-02-03- KSR - Hour 1

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Speaker 2: Now here's Matt Jones.

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Speaker 4: Welcome everyone on Kentucky Sports Radio, Monday, February the third. I'm Mat Jones here at the KS Barn grill on. It is Constitution Day in Mexico.

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Speaker 2: Smith Office. You call TJ. He'll make them pay.

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Speaker 4: Look There's one main story, obviously, and that is the loss to Arkansas. Saturday was one of those days that it's hard to even like go into in terms of I was just talking to my bar manager, the biggest basketball day we've ever had, the second biggest day in the history of the bar U, and if we had won, probably would have been the biggest. The amount of people in here was crazy. Rupperina was full forty five minutes before the game. I've never seen it full that early in my entire time of going. The buzz before the intro was something that I it's hard to even articulate what the feeling was. It was excitement slash nervousness, slash anger, slash happiness slash oh there's Tubby. I mean, like just a million things. And then of course the loss, which is I think a really really tough one. I don't know, guys, I did the postgame show, so let's just let them.

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Speaker 2: I'll go to each of you.

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Speaker 4: What's the thing about Saturday Saturday that stands out the most to you?

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Speaker 5: You're right, Saturday is what Kentucky basketball is all about. Saturday kind of tiptifies our craziness we have for our program. And it was nuts all day long. But man, I really I don't believe what I saw Saturday night. I know we'll get into it, but it just played out like a Dagon movie, you know, the villain. Yeah we lost, I know it, but you know, and the Arkansas team that struggled offensively all year to score sixty points lights it up for eighty seven. And the three dudes doing the lighting and then lightening it up, well had our uniform on last year. I mean, it was just after the game. I did something I've never done before. I went for a drive. Wow, it shook me so much. You went for a drive. I went for a drive. And I heard Mark you had to like get the you had to get the thoughts out of here.

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Speaker 2: I guess so.

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Speaker 5: And I heard Mark Pope on this postgame show and he sounded like somebody had shot his dog. And I turned it off. I just I could not listen to it anymore. His soul shook.

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Speaker 2: Wow, what about what about you? That's that's quite an emotional reaction. What about you? I didn't go for a drive.

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Speaker 3: I didn't get to sleep either, but I will say I woke up Sunday had a big old bowl of crow. After all my talking leading up to that game, I knew going into it, I knew DJ was gonna have opportunities and I thought, if DJ has a game, we could be in trouble. But you know, I even said on the show, I thought A Z would play pretty well. We knew A do a dude we didn't have a matchup for. But the back of my brain was like a DJ Wagner game is how this goes wrong. And that's what it was. Plus everyone else. I mean, they were last in the SEC and two point and three point percentage, They were two hundred and ninetieth in the country in three point percentage.

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Speaker 2: And they shoot fifty two.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you gotta just tip the cap in that moment, getting booed the pressure on them for them to go out and play like that, you gotta throw your hands in the air and say, well, you know, Arkansas deserves deserve No.

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Speaker 4: They completely outplayed us, especially in the second half. I thought the first half was very well played by both teams. You know, the narrative that has developed online of oh our booze motivated them and you know Mayo e Karma. Yeah, I mean the booze motivated both teams score halftime was forty six forty five. I mean, both teams were rolling in the first half. So I don't nothing that happened pregame had any effect on the game. Something happened at halftime. And for me, the irony of all ironies is John Caliperry won with halftime adjustments.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I know, I.

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Speaker 2: Mean that that that is the thing that gets you.

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Speaker 4: Their shot chart looked like a shot chart from Mark Pope, and I've been looking at their shot charts. They've been the same as they were last year. It's just this time he was like, you know what, maybe everybody had a point, Maybe I'll shoot threes in layups. Now they had to make them, which is that's the surprise. They make thirteen out of what twenty four whatever threes, That is the surprise.

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Speaker 2: That's why they won.

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Speaker 4: At the end of the day, they won because of loose balls and they hit those shots. It was really John L. Davis in the first half. DJ Wagner in the second half. And you know Wagner, I actually thought looked shook in the first half. I thought this, he doesn't like this. But then he came out in the second half and probably had his best half as a basketball player in college and we lose.

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Speaker 5: You're right. First half, he couldn't hit anything. I mean, his shots were.

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Speaker 4: Nervous to me. In the first half, I thought, I actually thought the opposite of what I thought. The booze had gotten to him. And in the second half, whatever happened.

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Speaker 2: He came in and played.

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Speaker 5: He became an All American. In the second half. Dude hit absolutely everything. Seventeen points, all seventeen of these points in the second half. Could not miss Big Z every time he spoted up. I thought to myself, Oh no, and boom the.

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Speaker 4: Big C three. I think he hit the most important shot of the game. Yeah, I mean we went from down eleven to down six. Crowd is into it. We played twenty five seconds, a really good defense on the shot clock, and then Ansley Almanor is one rotation short, which gives Z an open look and he makes it. And then immediately we try to force a bounce pass that gets stolen. I think it was Kobe Brea.

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Speaker 5: He was Kobe.

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Speaker 4: And then they get a layup and the lead is right back to eleven again, and I thought at that point that's when it was over.

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Speaker 3: Definitely even though there were several minutes left. That was the dagger because as Kentucky was getting that momentum, Reparena woke back up. You start thinking, all right, the math's in the math here in Arkansas is gonna go cold.

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Speaker 2: They've been too hot.

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Speaker 3: And then Big Z throws in another one, and on the wagger point, he went over five in the first half, seven for eight in the second. I mean, what a turnaround at halftime I was. That was my talking point with my friends there. We're all right, DJ's over five, he's gone cold. These other guys have to come down. Nope, went the other way, and DJ turned it on and.

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Speaker 4: The other guys did come down, and then he came out and had uh three.

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Speaker 5: The Kentucky dudes ended up with what fifty two points?

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Speaker 4: Three Kentucky guys had fifty two points In their entire time at Kentucky. They never combined for more than thirty four, and I don't think they've combined for fifty two this year in a game. And so I mean, they you know, you got to shake their hand. The you know, the Cali Perry thing. There's an argument that, like, if he had made some of these changes, he might still be the coach here.

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Speaker 2: I mean, if they if they played like that regularly.

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Speaker 4: Now they haven't played like that all year, and so this could end up being like a one off, like he got one moment, right, But it doesn't make it any easier for the our fan base, who you know, I do want to say to our fan base, like, stop blaming each other. Okay, they hired our coach, which we were happy about, but then they everybody was talking trash all summer. One fan base was gonna have to lose. We lost, and that's what happens. And you know what, I still think long term, we're in a lot better situation than they are. But for one night, they got us, and all you can do is shake their hand and go, they got us.

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Speaker 5: How many times did you say last week? This is the type of game that count Once a year.

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Speaker 4: He does it once a year, and he did it to us, and he usually does it in the game. Oddly that the fans really really won for whatever reason, and he and he did it, and you know, I thought, and look, you don't have to give me you know, I'll be critical if I need to be of him. I thought he handled the night about as well as you could. I thought his his you know.

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Speaker 2: He comes out and he gets boomed the booze.

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Speaker 4: You know, if you weren't there, you have to understand there were a lot of people clapping and booing. It's just the people are clapping were like, and the people at booing were like and so like. The booz are gonn to be louder, right, I don't know who was doing. Actually think there was a lot more clapping than people at home think there was. But there was booing, and it was loud, and there were the nine o'clock thing was a big part of that drew. There were a lot of people who that's what they wanted to do, And you know, it was funny to me, shows you how fickle younger people are. The students were like Col's biggest advocates last year, and they were the loudest booers. No, I mean no, I'm not kidding, Like they were the people ready to do it the most. It's just funny how when you're young, you're just like whatever, you know, I mean, I think that's what they were doing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and boos are naturally louder.

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Speaker 3: You didn't voice and all that, But I was actually surprised that the player booing was as loud as me too.

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Speaker 2: I knew they would get booed by a few people.

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Speaker 3: I thought we'd hear it. But that was the most shocking part of the previous guys that a do in big Z got booed, period, I.

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Speaker 2: Did.

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Speaker 4: I don't like the player boo part. I just I'm not but I but again, I get it. I I was really surprised when a dude because I think a dude went first. No Z went first, and I thought he'll get applause, and then he.

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Speaker 2: Did, right, and he got booed.

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Speaker 4: And then it was a little louder on a dudes, and then it was really loud on DJ you're right, and then it was really loud on CONTs and it was like.

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Speaker 2: But people just had to get that out, I think.

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Speaker 5: And then you know, every time they touched the ball, they were booming them. I mean that did kind of surprise me a little bit, that reaction they got from the rough crowd of like during the game, every time they touched it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know, did it motivate him, Well, sure it did.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, sure it did.

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Speaker 4: I mean, of course, but you know what that can also go both ways. You can be scared to death if they and they, to their credit, weren't. But for me, we lost because of basketball because again in the first half, both teams were lighting it up.

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Speaker 5: Sure like we got up eighteen to.

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Speaker 4: Twelve, and if we get a couple stops there, who knows what happens, Which gets to my biggest complaint about the game. You know, I'm a numbers guy, I'm an analytics guy. I'll take analytics over regular life. But it feels like to me, when we're rolling, we gotta be careful putting in that second unit. In mass we're still doing like hockey line changes, and I don't think we're good enough with these injuries to be bringing in Hey, we're up eighteen twelve, okay, Garrison.

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Speaker 2: Chandler Perry right now.

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Speaker 4: I just don't think we can do that, right, I think, And that's when they we went from eighteen twelve to down twenty one to eighteen in like us thirty seconds.

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Speaker 5: I agree with you. I think there's some player, some rotations that just didn't seem to make sense at times. The big one you mentioned the first half when we were struggling to come out a halftime. You know, and I don't want to knock on any of the kids, but he played some kids that maybe were having a hard time and maybe they shouldn't have been playing them. Trent, No, it didn't play one second.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, if you're gonna go to the bench, why not. He's had some success in the last few games. But you know, go look at Arkansas's minutes drew Their top three guys played like thirty eight, thirty seven, and thirty nine minutes. I'm kind of looking at Robinson, Oway and Williams and saying, guys, thirty nine minutes, good luck. I mean, they did it, you know, I mean I think we almost have to do that. I get this idea, keep playing guys, but we just got some guys that when the other team's really athletic, they just can't be out there.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and Pope's done this forever. If you go back and look at his teams, no one plays a whole lot of minutes. It'd share like that. And I don't know why that's in his system. But Saturday was a game where Mary Williams need to play about every minute his legs could take because when they would go to him inside, the weight difference he had on big Z. He was doing everything he wanted. He rebounded well, I think he led the team and assists.

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Speaker 2: He was great. But he only played like twenty five minutes. I mean, you gotta get trouble.

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Speaker 3: There was a little bit there, but yeah, he was so good, and I just feel like Pope needs to leave the best players.

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Speaker 2: On the floor. He has leave them in.

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Speaker 4: I mean last year a complaints were bring the best players in. Now we're like leave them in.

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Speaker 2: You know, I don't know.

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Speaker 4: Maybe, Look, I get it playing a lot of bench players. Okay, remember what our bench was to start the year. Yeah, our bench was to start the year Braya Kerr, right, you know who else?

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Speaker 2: Then it was Almanor and then Almanor.

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Speaker 4: All Right, that's a different five six, seven eight than Garrison Chandler Perry.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 4: So I mean when Almonor goes from eighth man to a starter, I mean, man, he's like, you just gotta play these guys because our drop off is pretty big right now to the next group.

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Speaker 5: I mean we're over twenty games end of the season. It's not like it's a conditioning thing. You know, these guys are ready to They could go thirty five plus minutes that they needed to, and I think they should have. You should have rolled with these main guys on Saturday.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that was a mistake. But you know, I mean we eat crow On it. Does it end the season? No?

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Speaker 2: Does it change to me the overall trajectory of the programs. No, But for one night it sticks. I mean, its like you can't act.

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Speaker 4: Like my mom called me yesterday and she was treating me like we'd had a death in the family.

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Speaker 2: She really was, Shannon. She was like, are you okay?

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Speaker 4: And I was like, yeah, I'm just in Louisville, you know. And she said, I mean it's okay if you're not.

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Speaker 5: Okay, she was doing a welfare check on you. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I was like, I mean I'm down. I mean I wanted to win, but like, I'll be all right. And she was like, I mean, you can talk to me about it.

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Speaker 4: If you need to, Like, yeah, but I mean, like I was down, but I think she was worried, Like are you really down?

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Speaker 2: I'm not. I am honestly upset for two reasons.

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Speaker 4: One I wanted to get this one for Pope, yes and for the fan base. And two we just lost to a bad team. At home, and that's not good. These are the games you gotta win.

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Speaker 2: That's first Quad two loss. But I also know we can go to Ole Miss tomorrow night and win.

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Speaker 6: What.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you can't let col beat you twice, now, you can't, you know, I mean, oh Miss will be the favorite. Yeah, but you know what, we could still win that. That's the games and Pope, we're using our best.

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Speaker 2: So it's amazing. Eight five nine.

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Speaker 4: We are six and one against the top fifteen, and we are one and five against power six teams outside of the top.

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Speaker 2: This is just a really good thing.

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Speaker 6: They beat Tennessee because if not, you be on a what four game losing that.

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Speaker 4: Yes, but that's what we're doing all year is we're winning these games and then we.

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Speaker 2: Play and we're like, well we got South Carolina home next Saturday. Well I'm not making a prediction.

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Speaker 4: You know, who knows this group? You just you don't know. We'll take a break. Be right back.

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Speaker 2: It's KSR. Welcome back.

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Speaker 4: They were four hundred hogs and they were just standing out there. It's just sty ended up getting the victory. Eight five nine two eight h twenty two eighty seven one person rates. Matt Wide did Colin Chandler have fourteen minutes in the second half.

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Speaker 2: I don't get that. Well. I didn't realize he had fourteen minutes. That's a lot.

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Speaker 4: I mean, the reason he got fourteen minutes is he guarded John L. Davis in the second half, and John L. Didn't score much in the second half, so I think Pope liked that. The problem is, while I'm amazed at how well he fights on defense, he looks terrified on offense, and so he takes a shooter off the floor in a perimeter space for you, which is something I don't think you can have in Pope's offense. I think in Pope's offense, you better have four guys.

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Speaker 2: Who can shoot.

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Speaker 4: And he didn't look like he wanted to shoot, and Brea couldn't make a shot, and then they were basically making it. I mean they had the belief. And by the way, this is exactly what who was it that did to this did this to us Vandy. They were like, Jackson Robinson is not gonna beat us.

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Speaker 2: That was what they did. I mean, in the second half, they do not leave his side.

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Speaker 4: Jackson Robinson is not gonna beat us.

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Speaker 2: Brea. If you do it, you do it.

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Speaker 4: He ain't doing it, and then Away and Brea just weren't able to do it. And Robinson, I mean, he got a couple shots off and they went in. He played, he went six for nine. He's gotta shoot more than nine times. But I think they were like, he is not beating us, and we'll live with.

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Speaker 2: The other guys.

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Speaker 3: Brea hit the early three in that run when they got it to eighteen to twelve, and the when he go zero for five after that completely disappeared on Chandler. I thought he played really good defense, but seventeen minutes in the game needed to probably be like ten, like you're saying. Offensively, there was a key possession late in the game where he had a little floater, missed it. I think he missed a free throw. He just doesn't look ready on that end of the floor. But he got some deflections and played on ball defense on Davis pretty well.

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Speaker 2: But still way too many minutes for him.

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Speaker 4: And there's a huge drop off if we're honest. At least has been an sec play between Omar and Garrison. You know you've heard my frustrations about Amar, but the reality is, especially defensively, it's just a huge drop off. I mean, Amary played, think about this, we lost by ten. So the average your average time as a player, if you were doing plus minus would be minus ten because that was what the final score was. So you have to remember it's not even zero, it's minus ten. A Mario was plus fourteen or excuse me, am I right about no, plus two. Mario was plus two, Garrison was minus fourteen. That means you were winning when Williams played, and you still ended up losing by ten. That means of Mari was a If you look at the other guys, they're all kind of it's nothing really sticks out, but Garrison sticks out.

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Speaker 3: And I mean the big Z was the real dagger, but another like half dagger was Brandon. Garrison missed a three, and then DJ made a three, and I think Knox got a steal in a donk or something. But the Garrison three, they were only down six. Maybe that was a big miss for him.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean he's made a couple this year, but I so I get it.

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Speaker 5: But the offense late in the state in the game just came dump it down to Mario. Let him beat Z one on one down the post. It's kind of our offense there for a while.

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Speaker 2: But I want you to think about the irony there.

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Speaker 4: Their offense that was spread out, shoot threes, and we were dumping it into the post. Yeah, like throwing it into oscar against Kansas State. I mean like we literally we almost flipped styles with them in the second half.

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Speaker 5: We let them play our style.

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Speaker 4: And we were playing the style of with Coal that we didn't want to play anymore, which is dumped the ball and then you know, and threes more than two.

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Speaker 2: They didn't want to.

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Speaker 3: Let big Z shoot last year and even this year he wasn't shooting that much. That's the most threes he's taken all season.

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Speaker 2: I mean, they just let big Z go, you know.

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Speaker 4: I mean, if you're cow like, if you're col is there a better night you could have had? I mean, you come out, you get booed, you don't like that. But then there's a there's some Here's here's how I.

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Speaker 2: Take col Wall walking out.

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Speaker 4: He knew he was gonna get booed, and there's a part that it hurt him, but he's also got a little juice where he's like, all right, well, I guess this is how it is. And then when it's over, and he wins, like this side of him that really hasn't been hit back since he was like, you know, plank up, Patina, plink plank Jim Keller like when he was doing that. I'm sure he felt that way in the in the locker room after. And I I mean, I can't.

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Speaker 2: Are you gonna watch the Vice documentary.

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Speaker 5: I'm not gonna be no, No, it went to where we thought it was gonna be a nightmare for him to a celebration. I can't watch that.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and it's gonna be I'm sure that there'll be some scenes of him going you know.

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Speaker 2: But I'll also say this though, about our fans.

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Speaker 4: It's but I see a lot of people online sort of yelling like like the fans. You can think the fans were wrong to do whatever they did, that's just your personal opinion. But it did not affect the game. Remember we got up eighteen to twelve, right, we were the ones that came out on fire. We lost because they were better in the second half than we were. They made adjustments we didn't. That's why we lost. We didn't lose because car mal geechee.

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Speaker 2: If you're not classy.

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Speaker 4: First of all, a lot of the people talking about being classy. You ought to see the mentions you've written me before in the past. But secondly, we lost because oddly they out schemed and out hustled us did. And that's like we actually should give them respect and respect and credit for saying they went and won the game and we just.

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Speaker 5: Didn't, Like, you know, Caliperio also, you know, after the game, he said the right things. He's postgame game, he said the right things, but you know, secretly it was just he was jumping up and down Pumpany's fists, so happy that he got that win.

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Speaker 4: Course, and if you if if it were me, i'd be the same way. Yeah, of course, of course he would.

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Speaker 3: In the locker room, that clip comes out and he's giving a speech and he says, I'm happy for my three guys, and then he pauses and he goes and me and he jumps right on top of him. I just kind of had a little grin, like, cal, I can't believe you did this to us.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, let me ask you a question, do you think this win makes it better or worse the next time he came. I kind of thought if we won the next time he comes, it won't be a thing. It's still it's it's still gonna be a thing, which I don't think it if he wins or if we win, then I think it's like, all right, we won the divorce.

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Speaker 2: We wish you luck, we got out of our system. Chan face him in the SEC. So a ton of fans.

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Speaker 4: I had a ton of my friends going we we gotta play him in the SEC tournament, like we gotta beat him in the SEC carry.

00:22:50
Speaker 2: He doesn't care about the SEC tournament. That's true.

00:22:52
Speaker 4: He doesn't care about the SEC tournament. But that might end this season depending on what finishes. We'll take a break right back, kez are TJ. Smith, person injury attorney called TJ.

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Speaker 2: He'll make them pay.

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Speaker 1: Now more of Kentucky Sports Radio presented by Stockton Mortgage. Here's Matt Jones.

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Speaker 4: Welcome back Chaos. All all right, two quick things and then I want to get to phones. Let's start with some uh some you know, can't all be glooming do Let's talk about some of the sights and sounds of Saturday. First of all, ks bar, we ran out of beer. As a matter of fact, right now, there is not one bottle of beer.

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Speaker 2: I'm serious.

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Speaker 4: Try that there's no beer here left. We've got some taps I think that have them, but we're out of a lot of those too. Yesterday, if you came here, it was like you're gonna be on healthy Sunday because we say, yes, it was a sober Sunday. I think we get another shipment in here early this afternoon, but there was no beer. Secondly, the moment that Cal came out and then when he and Pope shook hands, I intentionally took the view up.

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Speaker 2: There were some.

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Speaker 4: People here that where col people that I hadn't seen in a long time that I was friends with, and it was nice to see some of those people because a lot of them, you know, they just left and then.

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Speaker 2: Just were like out of your life, right. Uh.

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Speaker 4: Darbyshire's dad, for example, is somebody that I've always been really close to, and it was nice to get to see him. I haven't seen him since they left, and it was good to catch up with him and talk. And you know, there were other people. But then I also was respectful enough, like I'm not gonna go get in the assistance faces, right, there's no reason for me not. I'm sure they would have been fine, but like there's no reason me. So when Ka, when Col walks in, Shannon, I'm in the first row of the crowd, right like I want to watch it, but I want to be before.

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Speaker 2: But I look at the media swarm.

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Speaker 4: In the center of it. Yeah, and what I see is Cal searching for Pope, Pope, and it is Cal Pope and.

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Speaker 5: Mario right in the middle, right there in the middle.

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Speaker 2: I mean Mario.

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Speaker 4: When Cal walk down, Mario was not only I don't know if this showed on at home or not, but Mario was not only in the camera group. His camera was like in Col's face. I mean even I even like you know, I.

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Speaker 2: Always tell you to back up, Mario.

00:25:19
Speaker 4: Mario was up his nose and I was like, I wanted to scream Mario back up because he is like right up bottom. And there is somewhere someone took a picture. If you watch on TV.

00:25:31
Speaker 2: I look later. The camera's on one side of the court, but someone in the.

00:25:34
Speaker 4: Crowd on the other side has to have a picture where the backdropper is the media. And I guarantee you that picture, yes, Col Pope. Yeah, well no, Mario got pushed back right here, but Cal, he's still in it. Cal Pope and Mario my man got up in him.

00:25:54
Speaker 5: There there's one point where Cal's walking out and he turns around, looks like almost runs into Mario. You know, he turned around and boom, right, there's Mario because.

00:26:04
Speaker 2: In his way. Secondly, you know, it was like.

00:26:09
Speaker 4: There were people at this game that I haven't seen it games in a long time, although I mean I haven't been games in a long time. But at the same time, like there was some everybody who's kind of anybody in the Lexington celebrity This would have been your place to be, Ryan because all your little you know, your little private men's club people were there, right, I mean, the the outfits, Shannon, like everybody put on their best bedazzled sweat yeah right, Like it.

00:26:38
Speaker 6: Was the.

00:26:41
Speaker 4: Outfits were amazing, Like it was a who's who of who thinks.

00:26:46
Speaker 2: They're who everywhere and they made me laughter. It was hilarious.

00:26:50
Speaker 3: If we're gonna talk about outfits. The Tyson guys went full Tyson Chicken mascot gear.

00:26:55
Speaker 2: Did you see them? They were had Tyson letterman jackets, Tyson hats, red pants. They went full costume that the Tyson people are right there right. I saw him eat Chick fil A. By the way, I don't know, is that Tyson branded chicken.

00:27:08
Speaker 4: I'm not it's a good question. It was just it was quite. It was just quite a scene. I mean, front row, you got Joe and Kelly Kraft next to Jamie Komer, who's who just was walking by going Joe Biden, Joe Biden like streaming at people, you know, I mean he had to get that out, like it.

00:27:22
Speaker 2: Was the whole thing was was amazing.

00:27:25
Speaker 5: The cameras caught Cow and Joe Crap and Kelly Craft shaking hands and hugging and making nice nice.

00:27:30
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was the only person he tell the only people he said hello to. Uh huh. He went hey Joe, Hey Kelly and just walked right on by him.

00:27:36
Speaker 5: Was like, so you mentioned Tubby. I saw Randall Cobb was at.

00:27:39
Speaker 2: Tubby for a second.

00:27:41
Speaker 4: Tuppy walks in and everybody's eyes are on when is Cow coming out? Uh, Tuppy was walking in Like I don't know that any people even realized he was there. Really, he was just walking by, and people were like, he would walk by a person, they'd be looking over here and then their next door neighbor would go I don't think that was Tubby that just walked by, Like that's how much the attention was. Second thing, I do want to give a shout out to women's team. I sat in Louisville at a restaurant, made them figure out where the SEC network was to turn on the second half. When I turned it on, we're up one, like I don't know, forty six, forty five or whatever. They go on a sixteen oh run. The moment we turned the TV on.

00:28:23
Speaker 2: Georgia Amore.

00:28:26
Speaker 4: Go ahead and say she's my favorite player in basketball right now period, include the men's whatever. I'm not missing another of their games. She is amazing. She is all over the place. She had forty three points. Okay, she tied the school record. But it's not just that she's so fun. She talks I don't know that she talks trash, but it sure looks like that. She talks trash, and she runs around and the passes and the shots and she will shoot you talk about no conscience, but she still went like fifteen twenty two, like she didn't miss much. I was sitting there at this bar in Louisville just hooting and hollering, and I'm the only person in the place watching I'm not missing them again. They only have like eight games left. I've watched most of their games this year. I'm not missing another one. She is going to go along, go down with Valerie Steel and Ryan Howard as the best player to ever play here and people. I know she gets some attention, but she needs to get more attention.

00:29:25
Speaker 2: She's unbelievable.

00:29:26
Speaker 3: That was the best medicine yesterday after Saturday. I was in a funk like everyone else Sunday morning. But then she goes and does that, not just in any game. That was the thirteenth rank team in the country on the road at Oklahoma. She also had eight assists it's not yeah school record in points. And then eight assists and with a fishing seven threes I think seven.

00:29:44
Speaker 4: I mean, she gets the ball right, and she's just like like she's just like everywhere, and she's so low to the ground that these these these young women like they don't even know how to stay next to her. And then as soon as you think she's about to pass, three in your eye, just in your eye, and then she runs down the court with this grin, and I know the grin.

00:30:06
Speaker 2: It's Max's grin.

00:30:07
Speaker 4: It's that Australian sarcastic grin. I've seen it a million times, and she does it. I could watch, I could watch the women's team play. They are so much fun and they play like three or four ranked teams in the next four or five games. I mean, I'm definitely going the next time they're here.

00:30:25
Speaker 5: She's the best player on campus right now. There's no doubt about it. Forty three points at says they're nineteen and two. Like I said, just knocked off a top fifteen team on their on their floor. She's the smallest player on the floor. She's always the best player on the floor. I love that about it.

00:30:38
Speaker 2: I really did like the most. When when's the next game?

00:30:41
Speaker 3: They have a week off. They're at Old Miss next Monday. Then they're at home for Texas and Georgia. Okay, after that Tennessee.

00:30:47
Speaker 2: They're going their home against Texas on the thirteenth.

00:30:50
Speaker 4: Yep, three ballot, Yeah, okay, Mario, you back up if you go?

00:30:57
Speaker 2: Who's next, Chad, Chad? Go ahead? Chat? Hey, good morning, Matt, good morning.

00:31:05
Speaker 7: First off, I want to say I'm thankful for Pope. I wouldn't trade Pope for ten Caliperi's now that I've got that out of the way. I don't think DJ Wagner scores near seventeen points if Butler is healthy. I think that was we just struggled defensively because of him not being there. And I know you touched on it earlier about Chandler. The guy played seventeen minutes in the game. He did a great job in the first half shutting down Janelle Davis, but he has no offensive threat.

00:31:38
Speaker 4: So well, you're right about that. That's probably too many to be fair to Arkansas. I think you're exactly right. I think we probably win that game with Butler, but then they could reasonably go we lost Bookie fan. Yeah, right, like they can reasonably say the same thing.

00:31:53
Speaker 7: You know, yeah, I agree with that, But I wanted Trent. I wouldn't play back, you know, hope of talking about, Hey, you know, we're having trouble fitting him in the line up because we were so heavy at that position. But I'll tell you something, that kid is an absolute faller. He can rebound, play defense.

00:32:11
Speaker 2: And he's great.

00:32:13
Speaker 4: But there's a there is a big difference, to be fair between playing in the thirteenth region and playing uh you know, look, he's had don't get me wrong. Mount Mamba's had good minutes and I and he'll have more.

00:32:25
Speaker 2: I appreciate, I appreciate the.

00:32:26
Speaker 4: Call, and he maybe should play instead of uh, instead of Chandler Chandler. But also his weakness, his garden guys one on one, and that was everyone's weakness on set.

00:32:37
Speaker 5: The only reason I was hoping he'd get in there. You know, Arkanta was playing just more physical than we were, and E were getting all the loose balls.

00:32:43
Speaker 2: That's what the.

00:32:44
Speaker 5: Trend has been good at. Yeah, I thought that might help spark Kentucky if you give him a couple of minutes.

00:32:48
Speaker 4: I think they should have given him a shot. I didn't understand, like, not at all, you know, playing it.

00:32:56
Speaker 3: Yeah, he doesn't change the outcome, but he earned it the way he played at Tennessee play twelve minutes. He had that fearless three pointer from the logo. To go from that to not even get a glance in this game, I thought he at least deserved a chance.

00:33:07
Speaker 2: Yeah, I did too.

00:33:09
Speaker 4: If I'm nine two eight oh twenty two eighty seven, let's see, we'll take a break. We'll be right back this Kazar. Welcome back, Tucky. Sworts radio. Those of you asked me about to read Shepherd thing. I'm gonna talk about it the second hour, just that we'll get I want to give it just a little room to breathe seven seven two seven seven four uh five two five four Ryan.

00:33:31
Speaker 2: By the way, people are sending me pictures of Mario. He was not just that.

00:33:34
Speaker 4: He was involved in everything, like he was in every single picture of everything he is.

00:33:40
Speaker 2: Look at him. He was just he's like a piparazzi. Yeah.

00:33:43
Speaker 5: I was at home watching and he was in a lot of the ESPN shots, you know, as the reporters and the photographers trying to catch Cal and it come out. I'm glad the Duke North come out of game. Got over early. It was a route so we could enjoy all that, you know.

00:33:54
Speaker 4: Yeah, the uh, it was weird with the intro. I went home. I walked home after Cal came out. Then I went there and I rewound to watch because I want to watch the intro.

00:34:05
Speaker 5: Yeah.

00:34:06
Speaker 2: No, they opened the broadcast with my voice.

00:34:09
Speaker 5: I didn't even catch that.

00:34:11
Speaker 4: Yes, they opened the broadcast with me going Kentucky basketball. Nobody cares about winning more than Kentucky basketball. And then it was like Jay Bill's and then it was like Jay Williams. And then later in the game when they were talking about the people about how when he left the fans were ready for him to go, they put up these articles.

00:34:30
Speaker 2: First article, the.

00:34:32
Speaker 4: Only blog I've written in two years, was the one that said the Caliperry era ends in a whipper.

00:34:36
Speaker 2: And there it is.

00:34:37
Speaker 4: Then comes Tyler Thompson's next. It's like, well, thanks for reading and listening ESPN.

00:34:43
Speaker 5: What about the people that were tweeting you saying you're you're the guy that told everybody to boo yesterday Saturday. I saw a couple of those tweets coming at you.

00:34:50
Speaker 4: People are idiots, Like if you don't, you didn't listen to the show. Anyone who anyone who's listening right now knows that I did not tell anyone it ever, and I said I wasn't gonna boo. But it's a perfect example of how it doesn't even matter what you say, people will hear what they want to hear.

00:35:09
Speaker 2: You know.

00:35:09
Speaker 4: This was that dude on the uh whatever Pope's Cats. What First of all, what a name, Jim Arthur m Ullen.

00:35:17
Speaker 5: Days quite a name, quite a mouthful.

00:35:20
Speaker 2: I mean that sounds like a like a regal person. Jim Arthur under, I guess rosse player at Duke.

00:35:31
Speaker 4: Yes, exactly, I guess he runs that that that's that board I was telling you about that Pope's cats that for some reason seems not really favorable to Pope or the cats, like they're all cow people, and uh, I guess they hate us. And he just wrote what about KSR people and especially Matt Jones who encouraged the fan base to boo loudly at coach Cow.

00:35:53
Speaker 2: That never happened, Never happened.

00:35:56
Speaker 4: But then of course I mistakenly look at comments and it's all I'm sure nice.

00:36:01
Speaker 2: People going why to do that? Alla, Rade? And I'm like, I mean, I didn't.

00:36:11
Speaker 3: You said all weak fans should do what they want to do. You said it's okay if they do, it's okay if they cheer.

00:36:15
Speaker 2: Yeah, because I'm not their dad, all right, I'm not.

00:36:21
Speaker 4: There's a lot of people that seem to want to be the Kentucky fan base's father and mother and tell them what to do.

00:36:28
Speaker 2: They can do whatever they want. They're grown people, and John Caliperry can handle it.

00:36:33
Speaker 4: I'm not saying it made him killed probably didn't, but you know what, he proved he could handle it.

00:36:39
Speaker 5: It didn't make.

00:36:40
Speaker 4: Us thrilled when he said we lost a Tennessee about twenty two in the SEC tournament, but I get to go see my dogs. I wasn't thrilled by that comment. So people can express whatever emotions they want. And there were a lot of people clapping, a lot of people clapping, and good for the like they can do that.

00:36:55
Speaker 5: That didn't come through on the TV broadcast. All we hear.

00:36:58
Speaker 4: Because again, let's pray to something. I'm gonna clap. You move the mic back and you boom. You don't have to take it off, but just put it close to you, all right, reading anybody hear that clap, Let's try again. We give that same reaction. We're gonna get way two different sounds, and that's kind of what happened.

00:37:24
Speaker 3: What did you think of Cal's ol people's eyebrow that they captured as he was walking through the tune.

00:37:27
Speaker 2: He was smiling, but he kind of raised.

00:37:29
Speaker 4: His eye program That was a nice touch. I will say, all right, I'm all for Mark Pope's niceness. He inspires me to be nice, right, I'm all for that. Like the you know the Mormons smiles that we saw at b YU. Everybody's friendly and happy and I'm four, But all right, Mark, sometimes I need you to be like.

00:37:57
Speaker 2: Yes and always like you know, have smile like this is one of those burrs.

00:38:04
Speaker 5: Just once or twice I said his postgame radio show with Tom Leach, he could he couldn't even talk. He would start talking, he would pause. Well, I mean, uh pause, those guys are pause. I mean he couldn't even get the words out. He was so upset.

00:38:20
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's clear he's messed up with this roster. He doesn't know what to do right now without Butler Crease.

00:38:24
Speaker 2: Okay, so what do we think about Butler?

00:38:27
Speaker 5: I bet he's not playing him all night.

00:38:29
Speaker 2: Well, but I mean he said we're trying to create a new team. He did it.

00:38:33
Speaker 4: It may if you only heard ninety seven percent of his comments, you'd think this kid wasn't playing it. Yeah, but then he did say we'll give it a go with him one more time. Sounds to me like he's got something in his shoulder that probably needs to be fixed, and both he and Butler are trying to say he could probably play with it, but it's probably not best for this is just my read.

00:38:55
Speaker 2: Hurt, probably gonna.

00:38:57
Speaker 4: Have to have surgery at some point, but could play in pain, but won't be one hundred percent, and he and Butler are both trying to decide do we do it?

00:39:07
Speaker 2: That's how I read it? Is that how you read it?

00:39:09
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're trying to figure out the right equation there of how much to play him without hurt him long term in the postseason.

00:39:14
Speaker 2: It's a little comforting.

00:39:15
Speaker 3: As we've seen on social media, his his dad and mom have you know, shared things that that seem like they say he'll be back eventually. And then Butler was in that Brandon Garrison Live and we could go say and he'll be back, but I still don't feel like we'll see it.

00:39:27
Speaker 4: Soon eighty percent. Butler's better than what we have.

00:39:31
Speaker 2: Yeah, so we need it.

00:39:32
Speaker 5: He's a super tough kid. I mean, he doesn't want to go out like this. It's his last year playing collegiate basketball.

00:39:37
Speaker 2: He's at Kentucky.

00:39:38
Speaker 5: He's gonna give it a go at some point.

00:39:39
Speaker 2: Who's next, Tyler? Tyler? Go ahead, Tyler?

00:39:44
Speaker 6: Hey, Matt so cal Pay, I ain't as good as he once was. He's good once as.

00:39:50
Speaker 2: He was he's true. I mean, that's a really good point. I mean he can't.

00:39:57
Speaker 4: He can only meet the sisters once every two years, but once every two years.

00:40:01
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, and uh and but even cal Perry said, this was one game, and uh, you know, I'd expect this Pope team to get back up, that's itself off and get back to work, and uh, you know, the best way to avenge this, Liza nascill I agree.

00:40:21
Speaker 4: And then also the I appreciate the call. I think part of the best way to avenge it is don't think about it anymore. They still got a ton of work to do to just get in the tournament. And we you know, this team's won a lot of really good games. The sort of PostScript for this team is going to be written by what we do in March, both in.

00:40:39
Speaker 2: The SEC and the NCAA term.

00:40:41
Speaker 3: Yeah, I saw a while reaction after the loss. I mean, the loss definitely sucked, and there are some big flaws with this team.

00:40:48
Speaker 2: But did people forget.

00:40:50
Speaker 3: He'd beat Duke Louisville, Florida, Gonzaga, allow out all the rivals. He already has the record for top twenty five wins in the regular season. It's been a pretty good ride so far, even though Saturday was off.

00:40:59
Speaker 4: I had seen a lot of really anti Pope stuff, which is good because there shouldn't be. I mean, he lost, and that stinks, but we won a lot of good ones and there's still a lot of this season left to go.

00:41:12
Speaker 5: This what is this the third time where he's won a game. I didn't think they would win and lose a game. I didn't think they'd lose. You know, the Clemson Gonzaga week, It just killed the Tennessee.

00:41:22
Speaker 4: I actually thought that was last week for us. I thought that was going to be the Van d Tennessee. Like we lost to Vandy but then won at Tennessee. Well, let's win at Old Miss and keep it going. Yeah, yeah, So who knows a five nine two ah uh twenty two eighty seven will take a break when we come back. We do need to talk about the uh, the Shepherd thing, because while I will tell you what again, you just judge it by the average fan.

00:41:48
Speaker 2: That's what people were writing me the most.

00:41:49
Speaker 5: Is it really upset people?

00:41:51
Speaker 2: It really did?

00:41:52
Speaker 4: Yeah, and it and honestly, when I saw it, well when I saw it you over here, I thought.

00:41:57
Speaker 2: It was Ai.

00:41:58
Speaker 5: You thought the pregame show.

00:41:59
Speaker 2: Yeah, I I thought.

00:42:01
Speaker 4: It had to be AI. I was like, there's no way that guy, there's no way that kid did that. And then he did. So we will talk about it and more. We are here at Kspar and Grail. You come on out and have lunch. We'll take a break. This is Kentucky Sports Radio.