NFL Cover Zero: Bears/Bengals Madness, Celebrity Couples, and Upset wins!

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Speaker 1: NFL Covers Zero with Matt Jones and Drew Franklin is a production of the NFL and iHeart podcast. It is NFL Covers zero, Week nine, and you are talking to a happy Matt Jones who has come home from maybe one of the best sporting events that I've been to, certainly the best regular season up there sporting events in my lifetime. I mean, if you'd look at it, if I was at the Bears Bengals game today, most NFL shows will lead with Bill's Chiefs. Not this one with Matt Jones and Drew Franklin, because Drew I was in attendance in Cincinnati for the spectacle that was Bears Bengals. Today, I'm wearing my Bears shirt. It was wild, it was fun, and I don't know how it came across on TV, but in person one of the strangest and coolest events I've been to.

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Speaker 2: I was watching from the couch and it was still pretty awesome. With all due respect to the Bill's Chiefs, I think most shows will lead with this because that was just a crazy finish. I know these aren't Super Bowl contenders, not teams get talked about a lot, but that was just a wild ending and fun to watch from home.

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Speaker 1: Forty seven forty two is not a big twelve score, right, that's not an NFL score. That's a big twelve score, and it was insanely fun. I just want to if you will, if you'll bear with me, I want to go through what all happened in this game, okay, because it's wild. First of all, I watch you it. Picture the environment. It's Cincinnati, Ohio. We've talked about drunkest fans in the NFL games. At one o'clock, I did my ESPN pregame show at a bar, Holy Grail, in Cincinnati. People were already drunk before the game. Okay, So when I walked to the game, as you know, I heard my back a few days ago, so I'm hobbling a little bit. I walked from Holy Grail to the stadium. My show ends at twelve fifty seven. By the time I get into the stadium, it's already seven to seven. You know, they run the opening kickoff back. Yeah, the Bears drive down the field and score immediately, right. So the time I get to my seat, it's seven to seven. The game that followed, the Bengals might have the worst defense that anyone has ever had. Caleb Williams was just owning them. They would get The Bengals have a decent defensive line. They can get pressure, but they could never wrap him up. And then that Bengals secondary. I believe you and I play in it. I could have. You certainly have to have bad backs. Suit they cover like they have bad backs. They all have. They avoid contact like it. The game goes back and forth. Bears miss a field goal right before halftime. But let's start with the craziness. Okay, it is forty one to twenty seven, Bears are up two touchdowns, they had gotten an interception, and then I don't think I've ever seen anything like this in sports. Joe Flacco on three plays, throws two interceptions, both of which are returned either for a touchdown or inside the five by the Bears. I literally Drew celebrated two touchdown interception returns, only to have them both called back, the first one due to a penalty, the second one because they say he was down. I don't know. I couldn't seeither. Was he down? Yeah, yeah, questionable. It did not feel like it in person that he was down, But I thought he would. I thought he'd scored. Now I want you to understand what happened. Probably a third of the crowd are Bears fans, A lot of Bears fans. I didn't know. Did you know Bears fans traveled like that. I didn't think so.

00:03:58
Speaker 2: And maybe part of the jets last week with Bengals fans maybe gave up some tickets.

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Speaker 1: But I'm I'm surprised, But I guess the Bears are only like six hours away, so a lot of Bears fans there. And also, you know, I personally had never seen the Bears win in person. I counted, I've been to seven Bears games in my life. In person, we were zero and seven.

00:04:21
Speaker 2: That's said, your lifelong team. You've liked him since you.

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Speaker 1: Were a child, since I was a little child. I've been seven times. They had never won. It didn't occur to me until he gets that interception. They have to picture what happens. He runs it back. Bears fans are losing their mind, and the Bengals fans stream out of the stadium. I don't mean like walk out of the stadium. They run out of the stadium. Half the crowd is now gone and the only people left are Bears fans. The Bengals fans have all left because why would they stay on their home field. We're dancing, but the Bears fans are chanting green Bay sucks. They're literally chanting Green Bay sucks. Green Bay sucks. And then all of a sudden, the rest go wait a minute, he's down. I had already taken my victorious selfie. Oh I saw this selfie. You know this. That was the second one. I ain't taking a first one. Celebrating well, all of a sudden, when they bring it back, I look and drew, I think to myself, because you know, I'm like a clockhead when it comes to football. Two minutes thirty five seconds, the Bengals have three timeouts, and I look at my friends and I go, it's not over. And they were like, what come on, it's fuck, it's not over. You will score. You have three timeouts on sidekick, it's not over. And they're like whatever. Bengals drive down the field, go for two. Ye that did it to me? Now I do it? Tea? Did you like that move? I did? I'm all about going for two these days when you're down two touchdowns. Yeah, And some of the things we've talked about just the mathematics. It makes more sense than it than before. More teams are doing it now, so now there's an on side kick now. I don't know if you have the numbers, Billy, but I think there'd only been one onside kick recovered so far this year. I mean in the NFL, nobody recovers it rarely rare because you have to declare it. Uh huh. You have to declare it. You have to have two parliamentary bodies pass emotion allowing it, and then so like it never happens. But I'm telling you, Drew, I sit there and I thought it's gonna happen. You felt it. I did feel it, I really did. If I could have gone on DraftKings, I would have bet Cincinnati recovers his on inside kick. They kick it, the ball doesn't even go across the line of scrimmage. The Bears guy just decides to come in over and he kicked it himself. Did go ten yards?

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Speaker 2: Why did he do that? I don't think it was intentional.

00:07:07
Speaker 1: But it was like a yard away from the ten yard mark. It wasn't even gonna cross the ten yard mark. And if the dude doesn't kick it, we win. Game over, we're back to Channing. Green Bery sucks caught his right foot though catches his right foot. The moment he does that, everyone knows that the Bengals are gonna win. But here's the problem. All the Bengals fans have left. All the Bengals fans have left. They're back in Holy Grail. They're already gone. So you have a stadium full of sad Bears fans because we know what's gonna happen. And then no resistance from the Bengals. They get down inside the tent and then I say to my friends, there's fifty three seconds left. I'm like, Bears need to start calling timeouts, and they did. Credit to Ben Johnson. Isn't it nice to have a smart coach out there? He saw you need to call a timeout and he does.

00:07:57
Speaker 2: Yeah, I wish my football team had a couple of those, But it's nice, nice that you have an IQ.

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Speaker 1: Guy calls the time out, gets it. They score. Now the handful of Bengals fans there are cheering, but there aren't many. At this point are more Bears fans in the stadium than my friend Hubby. He starts cheating. He's a Bengals fan, Green Bay sucks at me. I looked around, drew at the Bears fans in the crowd, and it's the saddest group of people I've ever seen. I mean, they had had their souls ripped out. This will be the worst loss in history. But there's still forty seconds left and the Bengals defense is the worst defense that God has ever created on the planet. Seriously, it is in the Book of Ezekiel named it one by one in there, didn't it? Ye shall be disappointed by Trey hendrickson Bears drive down and then the touchdown pass. I counted six different players hit Loveland and nobody brought him, just bowling ball off of them. Is that I, as you know, have hurt back. I tried to jump, fell down, oh, because my body was not ready to jump yet. I can't think of a time in person that I've been that excited in a long time. When he bounces off all those people in scores, I was still worried they left too much time on the clock. Then there was twelve seconds to go. But what an amazing game.

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Speaker 2: Yeah you're roller coaster, you thought it was wild. Just when interceptions were getting called back and guys were getting called down and you had so much more to go at that point the level and touchdown. Even after all the craziness, I thought we had seen enough and it was over. Unlike you, I thought, ball game, there can't be any more magic left in this And for him to go almost sixty yards just straight down the middle of the field too, with the secondary all around him.

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Speaker 1: Bouncing off people like a bowling ball on a pence. It was crazy and as happy as you are. Have you seen the Bengals interviews from the offense, No, they are and just basically cussing what they say. Jase Brown and Jamar Chase are both like, we're scoring, how can we not stop someone like complimentary football. We get in, we get the lead, you get a stop ball game. They were that blank yes, with.

00:10:21
Speaker 2: Expletives calling out the defense. So as happy as you are the Bengals offense, which obviously had a great day Flacco had a career day outside of those interceptions, they are livid with the other side of the ball.

00:10:32
Speaker 3: Last year, three out of fifty on side kicks were converted, so only three six percent, And you mentioned it was a wild game. Ben Johnson deserves a lot of credit. Caleb Williams was catching passes.

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Speaker 1: I mean Williams calling two passes. I'm going to talk for a second about how bad I think the Bengals. The Bengals coaches should all be fired. They should be playing golf with you Freeze tomorrow. As a Bears fan, I'm angry for the Bengals how bad they were. But before I get to that, the creativity, yeah, was unbelievable. Three of the Bear's touchdowns were on trick plays. Ben Johnson is in his bag. DJ Moore threw one and ran one, threw one and went ran one. Caleb Williams, I mean Caleb Williams was basically a white out for most of the game. We brought a running back that I've never heard of onto the field from the practice squad. What was his name?

00:11:25
Speaker 2: Mon, gay Mon, and guy never seen that guy.

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Speaker 1: In my life, honest Gay, Honestly, he was awesome and and could not be stopped. Caleb was great, by the way. He was great because the Bengals got pressure on him the entire game, but he just his escapability. You could see why why he was the first pick the way he played today.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and the Ben Johnson stuff. Especially, it's so fun. They had a little flu flicker with Cole Comet. My favorite stat is Caleb Williams has more receptions than Comet in that game he had won and Williams had two. We mentioned Dj Moore. He is just so creative and fun to watch on top of going for two and just the exciting stuff with it.

00:12:04
Speaker 1: Well, let's let's talk about Zach Taylor, because there were two plays that, in my opinion, should have been fireable offenses the moment they happened. First of all, one of those trick plays, the Bears bring on Tyler Bagit onto the field and he's a wide receiver. Any coach worth even a grain of salt would say, why is the backup quarterback lining up at wide receiver where he's supposed to stand, where the backup quarterback is in the game at wide receiver. When I saw him, I'm an idiot and I was in the crowd, and I said, that's our backup quarterback. Well, he must be a decoy. They're not going to throw him the ball and then do a pass. And then they did, and it was like the Bengals had never even considered it. When Tyler Bagent got there. No one even but bothered to go. I wonder what happened to Kayleb Williams. I could not believe they fell for that. No one on the Bengals sideline seemed to notice that the backup quarterback was in the game at wide receiver.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the long list of complaints with Zach Taylor. Bingles fans had fun when they first got Flacco, had the Aaron Rodgers game, but the last two weeks have them in absolute shambles over little things like that. Yeah, I mean they're wasting a great offense. I mean, this offense, even with Flaccos to borrow, has been spectacular.

00:13:26
Speaker 1: The last losses are hideous. They had some amazing catches the Bengals widers Higgins Higgins, Hey, guys, some catches that were just absolutely insane. And then, and I've watched a lot of football, I've never seen this happen in my entire life. They challenge a play where the Bears are knocked out at the one to say that they thought he fumbled it through the end zone, and the challenge turns into a Bears touchdown. Is that not? Like? Is that the most Bingles thing of all time. That's an all time back. Then the points going the other way. They did get their time out back, which actually ended up being important. First of all, I don't think that should be the rule if you challenge it and they overturn the call, but they make it worse for you. Yeah, you lost points. They let the time out back because that time out ended up being big at the end of the game.

00:14:21
Speaker 3: Right.

00:14:21
Speaker 2: Guess they're thinking it's bad enough for him, keep your time out, But have you ever seen that before? Now turn the ball they made that.

00:14:30
Speaker 1: It was worse for the Bengals after the challenge.

00:14:32
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's one you'd like to take back. I can't think of a time where it's backfired that bad. Maybe occasionally, you know, called don't go your way, but to actually give up a touchdown over throwing a challenge flag, that's bananas.

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Speaker 1: So when the Bears did finally score again, no Bengals fans left in the stadium. The Bears. It was like a home game in Soldier Field, and I got to see my very first in person Bears win. It was you know, I'm a Kentucky sports fan. I like the Cincinnati Reds, the Carolina Hurricanes in the Chicago Bears, and I would say, except for eighty five, this might have been my favorite Bears day. I'm serious, Like, what an absurd game to watch in person.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you've named like ten things that are part of a circus afternoon probably helps your out an away stadium, but you took it. Always always best doing your Green Bay thing in Bingle Stadium, So I get it. I'm just shocked that your whole life, that was your first one.

00:15:31
Speaker 1: I'd seen them. I've been to Soldier Field twice. We lost both. I've seen them lose in Cincinnati, in Nashville, in Indianapolis, in Pittsburgh, and maybe in Saint Louis against the Rams when the Rams were there, and every time they come around, I will try to go. And this is the first time i've seen within.

00:15:53
Speaker 2: Now they've won five of six. Are you I mean you took a little dip last week looked ugly against Baltimore. Now are we back in too belong?

00:16:00
Speaker 1: No, because they still have a lot of problems. Their offensive line is not very good. The receivers are good, although Romanz owned Doomsday continues to drop passes. I mean he dropped the pass. It probably wins a game if he catches it and he drops it there at the end. So I am still a little bit worried about that, but overall, you know, five and three, you can't be that upset. Their schedule gets a little bit harder here. They've got two. I think they play like the Giants and somebody got a couple of easy games and then they have every game till the end of the year.

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Speaker 2: Is hard after that, and there's something to be said about just being fun. I mean, you want your team to win, and you won today, but just the flea flickers, your quarterback catching passes, stuff like that can can make a team that's just middle of the pack still be a lot.

00:16:40
Speaker 1: Better for you.

00:16:41
Speaker 3: And the Bears won five of their last six games.

00:16:43
Speaker 1: Yeah, would you fire Zach Taylor? Yes, I feel like you should. I don't think they will, but he's awful and he just sits there with that goofy grin on his face like and.

00:16:55
Speaker 2: As someone whose team just had someone from his coaching tree, I completely understand.

00:16:59
Speaker 1: I mean, they are well. First of all, they're the first team since nineteen sixty six to score thirty eight points in back to back games and lose them both. Yeah, that's that's ugly. That's a bad statistic, and that visual of Loveland just running right between the hash marks fifty eight yards to win the game. If you're on the Bengals defense, how do you like? How do you look in the mirror? How do you accept your paycheck? Like? You guys don't own me? This week? Not my best work. Yes, that play that'll go down is when you think about the way the Bengals have lost these last two games against the Jets and now this one. I don't know how many teams have had two worse, just demoralizing back to back losses than those.

00:17:44
Speaker 2: And Flacco had almost five hundred yards.

00:17:46
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean you have you have a geriatric on your team out there. He is taking his meta musil right, He's got his AARP cards so that he could get a discount on refreshments before the game, and he plays that well, don't you owe it to him to at least make a tackle.

00:18:05
Speaker 2: I don't know how the defense even get on a plane or a bus or walk into the locker room with that offense. Yeah, and maybe they're all out to after the players. Their teammates custom out. In the press conference today.

00:18:15
Speaker 1: It was also it would have been fitting for them to win. You know that one of the Bengals legends passed away this morning. Bob Trumpy, you might remember, like for those of us of a certain age, is one of the first broadcasters of games. I still as a kid, you get along a lot of Don Krickey and Bob Trumpy. They called four Super Bowls. Bob Trumpy was on four Olympic Games, four Super Bowls. He was a Bengals player, famous when he passed away this morning, so you thought, like in his honor, they'd win the game. Instead, in his honor, they say, you know what, let's do what we do, which is blow.

00:18:50
Speaker 2: These games, and let's not just kind of lose it. Let's really embarrass ourselves in it. Chris Collinsworth talked a lot about him leading into the Sunday night game.

00:18:57
Speaker 1: He's a legend. He's a kind of forgotten part of NFL history. But if I can tell you, if you if you're a thirty five and you heard his voice, you would remember it like he has Don Krickey, who also had a very unique sounding voice. If you heard their voices they worked together for years, you would remember eighty years old he's in the Broadcasting Hall of Fame. Big loss for the Bengals, both in life and then on the field today. Yeah, so there you go. Did you you all were texting me during the game. Do you know how sad I would have been if they didn't.

00:19:31
Speaker 3: Know a long drive back after a game like that?

00:19:33
Speaker 1: Oh my goodness.

00:19:34
Speaker 2: It was weird because he wanted text after a big thing. But it's like, well, two minutes left, little do we know it was seven more things would happen before the game.

00:19:40
Speaker 1: Ended, and then when it was over, celebrated at Skyline chili.

00:19:44
Speaker 2: Oh, that's why you're smiling.

00:19:46
Speaker 1: So I can just say, let me just say this, and I say this, would love the Bengals fans, y'all are some gross eaters when you love. People had chili like coming out of their nose, and they were leaving it all on the tables just a little. They were drinking Anna. It's a little grin right, it's a little gross. I don't know if there are more gracious in winning, but you're chilly etiquette, Drew is pretty gross. When you lose.

00:20:09
Speaker 2: Kind of symbolizes how their fan base is feeling right now, I think.

00:20:12
Speaker 1: Yeah, so that was the big game for me, probably for the rest of the world, it would have been Bill's Chiefs. The Bills win twenty eight to twenty one. Former Kentucky Wildcat Maxwell Harriston gets his first ever interception in the NFL to seal the game. It was Josh Allen's highest percentage completion in his career eighty eight percent. It was Patrick mahomes lowest in his career forty four percent, and yet the Chiefs had a chance driving to win at the end, but weren't able to do it.

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Speaker 2: I'm surprised by the drastic the description the numbers there, with Mahomes having or excuse me, Alan having a rerect your day and Mahomes playing so poorly, and then you know they're selling it. You throw the pick to lose it. But it just it's another one of those Bills get you in the regular season. And I'm sure when we get to the playoffs, Chiefs will be sitting there grinning because.

00:21:18
Speaker 1: What is this now?

00:21:18
Speaker 2: If the Bill's won five in a row, for the Bill have not won one of the ones in the playoffs. So it's just fitting the script that we've seen.

00:21:27
Speaker 1: So many times. Even Alan won the head to head in this one. Yeah, what happens if because you know this is all gonna lead maybe to a playoff game again they have won. The Bills have won all five regular season meetings. The Chiefs have won all four postseason meeting What if that happens again? What if it's five regular seat Because this game, it's gonna mean the Bills will probably host it again. But we've seen that doesn't really matter. No, what if they lose it again? It almost makes the regular season wins worse, doesn't it.

00:21:58
Speaker 2: It's us because you're just it's you're toying with yourself. You're tawning yourself. It's odd, though, because they've all come down.

00:22:04
Speaker 1: To the wire.

00:22:05
Speaker 2: It's not like the Bills and Allen specifically just come out and the moments too big and they play bad.

00:22:12
Speaker 1: These playoff losses. They're in it.

00:22:13
Speaker 2: You would think one of these times the ball would just bounce their way once. But so far zero and four, and now that they've done the five and zero in the regular season, I feel like we're heading for a crash course with the AFC Championship in Buffalo and.

00:22:24
Speaker 1: Mahomes is going to get him. It was one of the rare. Mahomes kind of bad games. I mean he really I know, the forty four percent is bad, but he also just didn't really play well. He made some bad decisions.

00:22:34
Speaker 2: He got hit a lot, I don't know the exact number, a lot of pressure.

00:22:38
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was. I was surprised because the Bill's defense has been an issue all year and they seem to, for whatever reason, have his number. But I do think this will be a game that has no impact when you get in now. I will note the Chiefs are five and four. They've got to make sure they get in the playoffs. I mean they should, but right now, if the playoffs start today, they would not be in it because they're tied with Jacksonville, and Jacksonville would have the would have the time breaker right now because they beat them. So as of today, the Chiefs wouldn't even be in the playof And if Zenver can keep winning, I mean they're gonna they could. We could be looking at the Chiefs as a wild card team, but still maybe even be a Super Bowl favorite by the time they get to it. I think they are going to be a while. I think the Chiefs are going to have to play every game on the road. Now. I think they've done that before, right, it won't be a problem. I don't think that's a big issue. But I think they're I think there's a good chance they are a wildcard.

00:23:26
Speaker 3: That's the first time Mahomes and Allen have met where both teams weren't division leaders, so they could be both playing on the road in the playoffs.

00:23:32
Speaker 1: This year, we had the rare moment. That's a good point. I mean, the Buffalo's.

00:23:36
Speaker 3: Behind New England, behind New England.

00:23:38
Speaker 1: Now they still play them again, so they could they could beat them.

00:23:41
Speaker 2: I think that could flip back, but New England's hot right now. There was a rare moment. It was a bad look for the people that think the NFL is rigged for the Chiefs because Mahomes got absolutely screwed on a intentional grounding calls like.

00:23:53
Speaker 1: A tip pass that was I mean, I don know how you could call that. I don't know either, But they couldn't review Its not a reviewable play. So help me understand why that's the case. Why Why is that not? Why is and no grounding not reviewable? It feels like you could see it's not a judgment call, really.

00:24:12
Speaker 2: Not really, and that one was so obvious, and it's one of those even the announcers everyone involves.

00:24:16
Speaker 1: Like, uh understood, help me understand why anything is not reviewed? Like if it's all going to be a challenge flag, why isn't everything reviewable? What? What? Why do we say some mistakes are fine, but some of them aren't. I mean, in the NBA, they'll even let you review a foul in an important circumstance. Yeah, some judgment calls. I guess you kind of understand. I mean, you couldn't review a holding or something, really, but that's an extreme example. It didn't hold. But if you if you start reviewing holdings, that'd be every single But if you're only doing one, like if you get one a game, presumably they won't use it a lot. They'll use it once. That's true. I mean, I I don't know. I don't understand the idea that things are not reviewable. That's really made sense to me. Well, on this one, what do you need a replay?

00:25:10
Speaker 2: Everyone knew in the moment this is a horrible call. He couldn't have been more center of the field in the pocket and the ball was tipped and they called intentionally.

00:25:17
Speaker 1: There was also one really bad call in Bear's Bengals. I don't know if you saw. It was early in the game, which one Joe Flacco threw it I think fourteen yards in the air, and they called it a fumble and it went fourteen yards forward and they called it a fumble, and then the Bengals were like, it went, it had some power body. It remained a spiral for fourteen years, and then when they showed it on replay, it was clear it was a pass. I just kept yelling it was a fumble because it was making the Bengals fans around me mad. But it really was. But that was maybe the worst call I've ever seen. They'd got flipped on review, but it seemed like a really strange bad call.

00:26:02
Speaker 2: So this is when the Bengals fans were still there before you all, this was the first half.

00:26:05
Speaker 1: This is that before all hell broke loose. Later in that game, Steelers and the Colts. Dude the sort of Cinderella the slipper falling off for the Colts. They lose twenty seven to twenty. Early in the game, it looked like it could be bad. Colts hung around six turnovers for the Colts, and then this is the number Daniel Jones with five. He only had four coming into the game, and he gets five tonight.

00:26:32
Speaker 2: Yeah, the Daniel Jones Sean got washed off at least for a week. He looked a lot more like the Daniel Jones we saw for many years in New York. We have three interceptions, two fumbles. Even behind him, Jonathan Taylor didn't play a very good game. He certainly didn't get three touchdowns. I think he was held beneath fifty yards rushing just to completely uncharacteristic, uncorrect, and I can't talk uncharacteristic game for the Colts. I mean, they've been one of the better teams of protecting the football this year, and the Steelers defense just absolutely mobbed him, had all the takeaways that comes after Steelers last two weeks defense looked terrible, giving up thirty points to Cincinnati and Green Bay, and then they just put it on Indianapolis.

00:27:09
Speaker 1: He is chalking up like one game, it is what it is.

00:27:13
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've I've been hesitant to say it as we've heard it felt like the Daniel Jones magic. Each week it kept going on.

00:27:20
Speaker 1: It's like, all right, this damn is gonna break.

00:27:21
Speaker 2: Eventually, seems like it broke really hard against the defense that was desperate to go out and play.

00:27:25
Speaker 1: Well. My MVP odds get hurt, say so, but you still want them. You might get some. Yeah, it's gonna be odd. Now you get five turnovers in that game. That's hard to that's hard to come back from. Steelers get a win after losing last week, the Steelers fans held a funeral outside the game before the game for their defense. Explain you saw one was part of the funeral. Well, because they've played so poorly the last two weeks. The defense especially lost less lost the last two games. Telgate, pretty decent sized Tilgate had a Steelers casket. People spoke they an actual funeral for the defense, saying that the defense had died. And then, of course the defense responds with the six takeaways today and maybe their best game of the year. Who are the Pallbears for the funeral and the offense?

00:28:17
Speaker 2: I don't know, but I think if you're that Tailgate, there is now a pressure to do it every week. I mean, if the defense is gonna play like that, oh multiple fear, I think you have to bring the casket every home game now. If the defense is gonna play that well, after you taunt them, you owe it as a as a fan to continue to do that because I believe there was some superstition involved. It's a huge turnaround.

00:28:37
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, it's probably the most fun funeral anyone's ever been to. If you go to a funeral for a defense and a tailgate, are you when you die, which I hope doesn't happen anytime soon. Do you want a fun funeral?

00:28:50
Speaker 4: Oh?

00:28:50
Speaker 1: Yeah? Or do you want a sad fun fun funeral? Okayhe because, don't be sad. I mean it'd be sad for a moment, but let's have a party. Let's celebrate. Maybe I don't need to be at an NFL tailgate. Maybe if you all want to do whatever you want to do, you all figure it out. Bes have the most fun. We're actually going to go to a Steelers tailgate team you don't even care I care about.

00:29:09
Speaker 2: Just don't let me to rest near the Titans right now. That will be the sad part.

00:29:15
Speaker 1: I'm the opposite. I want it to be very sad, all black. I need for my funeral. I need like people to cry. I need it to really hit people like I don't. I don't understand what people are like, I just want everybody to have a party. I don't. I want this to be remembered as a day that was bad. You can party the other days. For this day, I want to see some tears. You just want people to be miserable, and just for the record and from the afterlife. I'm gonna just look at the three of you. I'm gonna be seeing who's crying. I'm gonna afford I'll take some hond drop which whoever's not crying. I'm gonna know how you feel. Are we doing this at a bear's tailgate? No? No, I want it to be in a somber church. Okay, dark.

00:30:06
Speaker 2: I want to rain it outside. There's gonna be no refreshments, no sunshine. I think the worst day of the year, I need it to be raining.

00:30:13
Speaker 3: You want us to remember the day of your funeral.

00:30:16
Speaker 1: Of course, I mean people remember. I do want a closed casket, no reason for you that. I don't want your last view of me to be all purple. No, we want a view of you on cover zero. It's beautiful, it's exactly. I want this lighting we have right here and this camera where I'm right in your face. Believe me, we know this camera should be backed up. I have no idea why this camera is so close, but no, I want people to be sad, So.

00:30:41
Speaker 2: I don't want to make sure I'm said then if I'm still around.

00:30:45
Speaker 1: I wanted to. I want it to be a miserable experience. I think I've told you I was on a plane once where where John cal Perry and I the UK basketball coach, were on a plane together, and we thought the plane was going to go down. At least I thought the plane was going to go down. I think counted too, and I remember thinking, this is going to be awful, ay, because I'm going to be dead. But be no one's gonna care that I'm dead because he's dead. You're gonna be the small fun in the news. I'm not even gonna be. I'm not even gonna be in the paper. Page two continue to say Caliperry, three others dieing playing crack.

00:31:25
Speaker 2: Or they could have named the other three, these three people in one other.

00:31:29
Speaker 1: Yeah, well I'm gonna be there's no doubt if he's on the plane, I'm an other And so yeah, I didn't like that at all.

00:31:36
Speaker 2: Well, now that we know, we all would have been very sad. If that happened, we would not have party done.

00:31:40
Speaker 1: Yes, please cry, please have lots of tears and feel badly about.

00:31:45
Speaker 2: What's up with all these big life moments in the NFL this season. I mean we had Brown Spider getting married. Now we're having funerals as it just.

00:31:53
Speaker 1: When we gonna have a baby. Yeah, right there to tailgate. It's the big, big life things going on in NFL. Taboure. There's been people born in telor Oh. I bet it's happened. I mean, just say, just by sheer numbers, somebody's given bird. Are you saying it planned? Or they're there? Like kickoffs in two hours? Is like Get the Midwife, honey, section one seventeen. It's coming out.

00:32:16
Speaker 2: To meet us in the blue loot well at Chili.

00:32:18
Speaker 1: That's exactly right, honey, go to the concession so we can cut the cord, exactly. Your first communion is a micheloboltry. I don't know that that's gonna happen, but I do think it's I bet, I bet it's happened. At some point somebody may know. Man, I have to look into the NFL research. Next to instats, that's right, Patriots meet the Falcons twenty four to twenty three extra points being missed and may this is a little theme today Falcons miss an extra point. Uh. They ended up punting at the end of the game, fourth and twenty with two minutes and fifteen seconds left. They punt, They don't get the ball back. Did you h what'd you think of that call to punt on fourth and twenty and try to get your defense to stop it.

00:33:02
Speaker 2: I don't hinted that much because you're not picking up that fourth and twenty. I mean I probably would have done the same same thing. It didn't work in that spot, but they weren't picking that up. It's good Drake London had a good day. Maybe if they threw to him, But other than that, I think you had to punt. Just suck you didn't get another opportunity.

00:33:17
Speaker 1: What's more likely, though, get a fourth and twenty or punt and stop them three times and then lose all that field position and come. I mean, I feel like I think I go for it. What do you got to lose?

00:33:31
Speaker 3: It?

00:33:31
Speaker 2: Stood being twenty like a fourth and ten, fourth and twelve, the twenty just that's so much to pick up, and I guess I would surrender in that situation, I find the Falcon unless I'm Pat Mahomes.

00:33:42
Speaker 1: I didn't mention this.

00:33:42
Speaker 2: By the way, in the Chiefs game, they picked up another fourth and seventeen late and now they did end up winning, but the Chiefs did it again. There's never been a better team at fourth and sixteen, fourth and seventeen in the fourth quarter than picking that up. I meant to add that talking earlier. But the Falcons don't have that kind of magic.

00:33:58
Speaker 1: They don't. Michael Pennix is not able to do quite the same thing. Drake May. They get the win, but as with all Falcons games, impossible to predict. I mean, comes right down to the end. I would say, I haven't seen the odds, but my guess is, if you look at the MVP odds, Drake May's probably second, now, isn't it probably Josh Allen first, Drake May second? Is that where we are? Yeah?

00:34:18
Speaker 2: He had another big games. That's six in a row for them.

00:34:22
Speaker 1: I think. So they start zero to two and now I think they're six and two, and their schedules so easy. I mean, they're gonna they have a legit shot at the one seed just because their schedule, you know, I think they still play the Jets twice. I mean, their schedule is is simple. What are they and.

00:34:38
Speaker 2: We focus on Drake May playing so well. Their defense hasn't had a fifty yard rusher against them all season.

00:34:44
Speaker 3: Josh Allen plus one eighty, Mahomes plus three fifty, Drake May plus four twenty five, and then Stafford is plus five point fifty right now.

00:34:52
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I think it's unlikely they pick a second year guy. So unless Buffalo collapses, I think Josh Allen will win it. But you know all they got if Drake if you could make the argument, okay, Patriots beat the Bills the second time, maybe maybe he gets it right.

00:35:10
Speaker 2: Oh, if he gets him a second time, I think you have to. And you're just seeing a change around Drake May and the Patriots. They're not the Chiefs, but they're getting kind of cool. Like today, Robert Kraft and Cardi B were sitting together. They kept showing her, so you know, we're starting to get the celebrity Treatsment and Tree miss not just Taylor anymore. We got Cardi B being seen in the Patriots booth. Uh, they're starting to get a little with his Cardi B date Stefan Diggs, who had a big game today. He's starting to get I supposed to know that they're the second biggest couple in the NFL.

00:35:39
Speaker 1: How long have they were?

00:35:40
Speaker 2: Sarah Russell Wilson unless you're tired of them?

00:35:42
Speaker 1: They about Haley Stanfield and Josh also a big couple. Madison Beer, Justin Herbert.

00:35:47
Speaker 3: Yes, wow, these are cam Ward and how do we interceptions?

00:35:52
Speaker 1: Interceptions? How do we rank the celebrity couples? Obviously Travis and Taylor are one. Who's two I'm gonna say Josh Allen, Haley stand staffand's gonna get nominated for an oscar this year?

00:36:05
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's Cardi though, it's Cardi b Yeah, but what makes her so great?

00:36:09
Speaker 1: All the songs?

00:36:10
Speaker 3: Yeah, she's with child now too?

00:36:12
Speaker 1: Did you just use like a biblical she's with child term? Yeah, the faun's child. She's with child. So they've dated a long time enough to season enough to impregnate each other, or at least by one of them got their love move fest the love mofest. Think, what do you think her and Bob Kraft talking about they were or died? I didn't even know they were dating?

00:36:35
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I think that that was just recently announced.

00:36:39
Speaker 1: Okay, also it was it was an old love that just became public, So I would put them third. And then I think Russell and Sierra there's a time they'd have been number one. I think it's just so so long running, we've all moved on. I think they dropped the four. And then I don't know what Madison Beard does, so I'm gonna have to put her fifth because I'm not sure what she does.

00:37:00
Speaker 2: I just know they went to the Dodgers game and so with the Beavers soon and then there there's a Cavender yeah and a yeah.

00:37:06
Speaker 1: Yeah who else?

00:37:11
Speaker 3: Ah yeah, I'm thinking, hmm, it's kind.

00:37:15
Speaker 1: Of funny, like it's only the big start, like you never hear of like a backup offensive. Well no, no, well he's not in the league anymore. I was gonna say, Jason Kelsey and his wife are pretty famous now.

00:37:24
Speaker 2: But yeah, I'm trying to think that it's got to be someone that was already a celebrity though we know her because of her marriage to Jason, and.

00:37:30
Speaker 1: I see, okay, will come to us. On a different note. I met today. I met Tony Pike, former University of Cincinnati quarterback who I believe maybe had a was in the NFL as a backup in a couple of places. I met him today and got to talk to him quite a bit. We should have him on the show. He's actually very funny. He played college football with the Kelsey's under Brian Kelly, so Jason Kelsey was his sinner and Travis was his tight end. That's wild. And I asked him, I said, are you gonna get invited to wedd and he said, depends on how big the list is. He like, I wouldn't be on the intimate list, but if you got to the next tier maybe, I said, oh, what would that be like? And he goes, I'm told Travis, I have to sit next to ed Shearing. It's Sharon. I like that. Tony Pike believes he's big enough that he can demand the seat next to ed Sheer.

00:38:25
Speaker 2: Do you think Ed Shearon is somewhere saying, you know, when I get to that wedding, I hope Tony Pike is at my table.

00:38:32
Speaker 1: It wouldn't be tough, though, If you were like Travis Kelsey play on these all these football teams, you almost have to invite all or nobody, right, Yeah, it's weird.

00:38:39
Speaker 2: If you invite, like you know, usually you got three four tight ends on a team, you invite one of them from that team, you know you're in the same.

00:38:45
Speaker 1: Walker room with the same practice. Tony Pike was his quarterback, so a tight end. And I feel like that's any college stuck his hands under his brother's butt for years. That's got to matter for something.

00:38:57
Speaker 2: He's got us sit with that year, and I mean, who else could you put next to him?

00:39:02
Speaker 1: Well, it's just awesome. You try to pair people with similar interest this year and Pike, could you have walk in together?

00:39:08
Speaker 4: That would be Uh, that would be nice.

00:39:22
Speaker 1: I'm gonna meet the Textsteen fifteen. Uh. The thing that this happened for me in this game is I remember Davis Mills was in the league. Yep, that was a guy I'd forgotten.

00:39:33
Speaker 2: Great neck, great nick all Tom neck.

00:39:36
Speaker 1: Great neck. Uh. He had to come in and play. Houston got stopped at the goal line again.

00:39:42
Speaker 2: He had to come and play because Stroud almost lost his neck. I didn't have to sliding defender hit him as he was going down. The defender out actually didn't see, I would assume so. But it was a bang bang play I don't think there was intent, but it was. It was a nasty hit on him. Clelly understood why he had to go out big win for the Broncos. I had a pretty big wager on the Texans. I thought they were gonna win, but I assumed C. J. Stroud would play before the winning k Gary Payton, not Gary Payton.

00:40:08
Speaker 1: Sean Payton, Sean Payton the glove. Oddly, Gary Payton yelled at the kicker, and people are like, what are you doing here? Gary Payton?

00:40:16
Speaker 3: Sounds like something he'd do.

00:40:17
Speaker 1: Don't you have somewhere to be? Why are you here? Who let you on the field? Uh? He yelled at the kicker and said through the middle. Now, of course there have been other coaches who say you don't talk to the kicker. If you were a kicker, would you want to hear from your coach, not hear from your coach? What do you think is the better strategy for a big kick? I've actually thought about this recently.

00:40:38
Speaker 2: Kentucky was playing a game Texas and when he needed a field goal, and I was watching the kicker on the sideline and nobody was talking to him, and I kind of had the conversation with people around me, and I feel like.

00:40:48
Speaker 1: I would want to be that guy. I'd want to be.

00:40:50
Speaker 2: Left alone pacing. If you want to come home, give me a little pat, sure, but you know, I know the objective here.

00:40:56
Speaker 1: There's not much you can say to me right now. Left one, leave me one. And if I'm the coach, I would probably just let him be. He knows what he needs to do. I wouldn't want to be yelled at. I'd be like, I'm trying stop. But I also wouldn't want to be left alone because then I feel like you're you're acknowledging how nerve wracking this is, with the fact that you're not talking to me. You know, sometimes like if you're in a relationship and like you're the person you're dating doesn't call you for a while, you assume the worst is wrong. I think i'd be like that with the kickers, like they're not talking to me. This must really be they must really think I'm gonna miss this. So I'd want it to just be normal. I'd want Billy to come up and be like, have you seen the task? No? No, no, that's good.

00:41:42
Speaker 2: I don't want the coach coming up like all right, Bud, see these two uprights. You're gonna need you to put up a swim. No, I know what I'm supposed to be doing. Pat me on the back, maybe a fistball, maybe smack me in the back of a helmet to get me fired up.

00:41:53
Speaker 1: But like, I don't need to put What if I was like, all right, Drew, I'm gonna need you just kick your leg back and then go through the ball, which then that made you laugh.

00:42:02
Speaker 2: Start you like start giving some tips, like, Hey, I know you've been doing this whole life, but have you thought about maybe taking eight steps back, really getting their head really use the hips.

00:42:14
Speaker 1: I think that would be good.

00:42:15
Speaker 2: Try to find one person in that crowd out there, lock on them and take this.

00:42:18
Speaker 1: Famous story in our team Kentucky basketball that there were some big free throws once and Tubby Smith went up to the guy right before he's gonna shoot these big free throws Patrick Sparks to beat Louisville, and he said, so, what are you doing for Thanksgiving? See? I like that icebreakers? Yeah, don't talk about something else. Don't talk about what I need to do. I know what I need to do. I want working on this. Sean Payton yelled at the kicker, he makes it, and then Broncos within fun Denver'.

00:42:41
Speaker 2: Stat What's that They've trailed four times entering the fourth quarter this year in one all four games. Look out for Denver in the fourth quarter.

00:42:49
Speaker 1: That's a good time. Famous Giants game just a couple weeks ago stands out on that. That's right. Jaguars beat the Raiders thirty twenty nine and the score was nine to six going in the fourth quarter, ends up thirty to twenty nine. Did you like the Raiders going for two? I did.

00:43:04
Speaker 2: I guess that earlier in the show. I'm all in on going for the two.

00:43:07
Speaker 1: Now.

00:43:08
Speaker 2: I know there's different circumstances should but you're at the point if you're in the NFL, you should have a play to go get two yards. If the circumstances say go try it out. I'm off for it.

00:43:18
Speaker 1: And I thought the coaches both coaches were gutsy. I mean the Jaguars got first ball, Yeah, they get down three minutes, they go for it on fourth and one. People were acting like that was a crazy gutsy call by Liam. I actually think it was a smart claw call. Let's go back to what we talked about last episode. With Greg Olsen saying, if you don't get it, they have the ball at the one, there's only three minutes left, whereas if you kick it, they're going to already be at the thirty at least. So I actually thought going for that was smart. I love that they're not. It's not you probably tie in college. In college, you might not go for it because they get the ball at the twenty five. But in the NFL, they have to stay where the ball is, so I think it makes more.

00:43:59
Speaker 2: So, Yeah, you got to pend on the goal line at that point, you're thinking, worst case scenario is a tie in this game.

00:44:04
Speaker 1: Uh, And I was fine with the Raiders going I mean, it didn't work. You're the Raiders, but you're the Raiders. You're what two and six or whatever?

00:44:11
Speaker 2: Go for Gino actually had a pretty good game, think through four touchdowns to an incompletionent incompletion on the two point tribe.

00:44:16
Speaker 1: But yeah, I go for it. Now.

00:44:18
Speaker 2: The real thing is, was anyone watching this game while the Bills and Chiefs run. I turned it on for overtime, but I forgot in the four or thirty time slot that there were other football games being played because I was locked into Mahomes Allen and then they're like, oh, overtime in the Los Angles.

00:44:33
Speaker 1: Shall sing the two markets where the local people might watch them the least, Jacksonville, Las Vegas. We had history made. There's a record setting case. Yeah, anyone the world did not get to see Cam Chicken Little make a sixty eight yard or to break the NFL record. I feel like we just talked about this the other day. Used to be we all knew Rick Dempsey in his club foot, and we knew that he had made the kick. And now someone named Cam Little is going to have the record. Do you think at the end of the season, if I asked NFL f who has the record for biggest kick, they'll be able to remember Cam Little in January?

00:45:10
Speaker 2: Maybe he also kicked the seventy yarder in the preseason that didn't count. I think that was the first seventy yarder ever, so his name stuck out a little there. I don't think he'll even have the record.

00:45:19
Speaker 1: When the season ends.

00:45:20
Speaker 2: I think Dan Bailey from Dallas is going to kick a bomb before the year's over. He was a Aubrey or do you say Dan Bailey?

00:45:27
Speaker 1: He said, Dan Bailey.

00:45:28
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the former former Cowboys kicker Brandon Aubrey. Excuse me, that was getting my legendary Cowboys kickers confused there.

00:45:36
Speaker 1: That was my ex's dad, just like I was talking about him. What's he doing?

00:45:39
Speaker 2: I think he's gonna end up one to one up him before the year's over. They're at Denver and they set him up for one. He wasn't able to kick it, but Cam Little, I've now watched him kick one from seventy now one from sixty eight. The game has just changed so much. I think it's just to keep getting too far.

00:45:55
Speaker 3: It's the balls.

00:45:56
Speaker 1: I don't like it. Stop make him use the actual balls. The game is more fun when it's more random. I need guys kicking it far far to the right.

00:46:07
Speaker 2: You're not impressed by just the human feet of kicking it, well, not if they're kicking basically, you know, rubber balls like spongeball, like they to stay accurate. I know, but they've.

00:46:18
Speaker 1: Clearly changed the ball like it's not the same, and I don't like. I want it to go back. I think football is better when there's more variants, and there's not enough variance because the guys are too good.

00:46:30
Speaker 2: What if it's only in games like Jacksonville, where the only exciting thing is when someone kicks a long field goal because they're playing the Raiders.

00:46:36
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I did forget this game was going on. To be honest with you, I was at skyline. I didn't really care.

00:46:43
Speaker 3: So the messy skyline from what we heard, so.

00:46:45
Speaker 1: Dirty Bengals would clean up after yourself, leaving the cheese everywhere.

00:46:49
Speaker 2: It could have been the case in this one. Trevor Lawrence said Skyline. He was pale as a ghost and sleep He was sick, throwing up, stewing up, and played big game.

00:46:56
Speaker 3: Trayvon Walker, the former number one overall pick, punched a guy in the helmet again.

00:47:01
Speaker 1: I don't understand that people loved the helmet punch. Has that ever done anything? Now? Literally? That exists to keep people. That's why it's there. That's why it's there. You know, all the of all the things to do, it makes the least sense, right.

00:47:19
Speaker 2: And you know, sometimes the guys won't show up, but it hurts their hand. But they can't like react and act like it hurt their hand. They have to act tough. But you know, there's been a few times there's been a punch stone on a helmet and.

00:47:29
Speaker 1: Sure it happened. I'm sure that has happened. Vikings Beat the Lines twenty seven, twenty four. I need you to apologize to JJ McCarthy, please, Billy.

00:47:38
Speaker 3: Yeah, I got wrapped up in a sponsored segment and you.

00:47:42
Speaker 1: Know a sponsor.

00:47:43
Speaker 2: We're not blaming the sponsors.

00:47:45
Speaker 1: It's all on me, your accountability.

00:47:47
Speaker 3: A big fan of Tate Ratledge and the Lions, so I thought it was going to be an easy victory. But JJ McCarthy had a great first quarter, two touchdown passes alone there looked good. It's got a great supporting cast, good defense, but big win for Minnesota.

00:48:01
Speaker 1: That's not a significant enough apology. You said he was Your exact word was trash. Yeah it was.

00:48:08
Speaker 3: It was not the best take by me. I apologize to JJ McCarthy. Wish him the best of luck.

00:48:14
Speaker 1: Just take that one back in case he's listening right now.

00:48:17
Speaker 3: Well, JJ, if anybody else would like bulletin board material for their team, you can hit me up on cameo. Billy r Sport.

00:48:23
Speaker 1: No, you're not paying you to talk trash. First of all, why are you on cameo?

00:48:31
Speaker 3: Well, I mean people will pay for anything nowadays Matt's.

00:48:34
Speaker 1: Have they paid for you? Who?

00:48:37
Speaker 3: Well, it was it was a couple of years ago. My price was much lower back then.

00:48:40
Speaker 1: What's your price now?

00:48:41
Speaker 3: I think it's at twenty twenty or twenty five?

00:48:43
Speaker 1: What was your price back? It was like four or five? It was five?

00:48:48
Speaker 3: I think, what would you do? I'm just happy to be doing it.

00:48:54
Speaker 1: You know, what was it like only fans? You'd send one picture for four dollars?

00:48:58
Speaker 3: Oh no, no, I can't get fast food for four dollars anymore.

00:49:01
Speaker 1: Actually, I would argue you're overpriced at twenty your bargain it for. I think you're more like a seven thirty six. Seven dollars and thirty six cents feels like the right price.

00:49:15
Speaker 2: Verst is that before after they take their cut.

00:49:17
Speaker 1: It's funny cameo was so huge for a little while. I don't think about it anymore, do you.

00:49:23
Speaker 2: No, there was a time where I thought it'd be funny to get random celebrities and some love.

00:49:27
Speaker 1: That I did. I got a bunch William Hung, we got that, I got, I got a lot of them.

00:49:34
Speaker 2: Some of those people have you know, made quite a bit of money on.

00:49:38
Speaker 1: Well, A guy that's always brought up as Kevin from the Office. He made like a million dollars doing it.

00:49:43
Speaker 2: Yeah, they'll throw a couple hundred bucks on that. Some people that were on a big show years ago not get much work, just sit around and throw off some happy birthdays.

00:49:51
Speaker 1: Wait, manut, I want to do I like to play the game of can you guess how much this person's going for? Okay on cameo? On cameo? Are you ready? Always one of my favorite games. How much do you get? Shooter McGavin, Oh, he's got an ego.

00:50:03
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna say six hundred eight three eighty.

00:50:08
Speaker 1: I thought I'm with Billy.

00:50:09
Speaker 2: I thought he would have had a lot.

00:50:11
Speaker 1: I thought he would have gone high. What about newly freed Congressman George Santos. Oh, God, by the way, he cut his price in half since he got released from prison, which is understandable because he's probably easier to get now than he was then.

00:50:27
Speaker 2: I want to say something small, but I bet a lot of people do this. I'll say one hundred and twenty five.

00:50:31
Speaker 1: Dollars, one hundred, one hundred and fifty dollars. I feel like he could. We were talking about Kevin from the Office how much is he.

00:50:41
Speaker 3: He's probably not too high or he wouldn't be that popular, right, Yeah, it's got to be low enough that people will do it, like one seventy five. That's exactly what I was going to say. We're both going with one seventy five. Guess two hundred. Okay, we haven't been too far off on any of them.

00:50:53
Speaker 1: Bruce buffer is not that's this is the other buffer. Yeah, this is the younger brother. This is not this is brother too.

00:51:02
Speaker 2: And he's not allowed to say the keywords.

00:51:05
Speaker 1: He can't say let's get rid to rumble. He can say like, let's get ready to have.

00:51:08
Speaker 2: A round ball. That's what he said at Big Blue Madison, Kentucky.

00:51:11
Speaker 1: Let's get ready. What's the other buffer?

00:51:13
Speaker 2: Uh, Bruce buffer and Brian bread Bill's not bron It starts with the beef Bill Bob.

00:51:21
Speaker 1: Well, wait a minute, is Bruce not the main one? There are other but now this is not the main what's the other buffer? Michael with a bee, Well, Bruce buffer is three hundred and fifty dollars. Wow, that's the secondary buffer. Michael's probably not even on there, but he'd have to, he'd be well, no, he charges Yeah, a couple of great amount of money. All right, let's do uh, I want to do one more?

00:51:48
Speaker 2: Are there any NFL personalities on there?

00:51:51
Speaker 1: Ray Lewis are sports? Oh, ray Lewis, he's going to be two hundred and two hundred, even, Bob, I'm gonna go.

00:51:59
Speaker 3: Three hundred on this one.

00:52:00
Speaker 1: Ray Lewis is three hundred and thirty dollars. LeVar Ball never lost.

00:52:06
Speaker 2: I saw you recently lost the leg and he says he can still be Michael Jordan.

00:52:11
Speaker 1: I love it.

00:52:11
Speaker 2: I just love that he's still talking. I'm gonna say LeVar Ball is one hundred and fifty dollars.

00:52:16
Speaker 3: Oh, big ballers, they got to spend more than that five hundred.

00:52:19
Speaker 1: Wow, Well you could get you one thirty, all right, two more. David Ortiz, big Poppy, Big Poppy is a man with the people. He'll be cheaper. I'm gonna say one hundred dollars one fifty, six hundred and fifty dollars for David Ortiz. Wow, who's paying that?

00:52:37
Speaker 2: Nobody, respectfully, David Ortiz et nobody.

00:52:42
Speaker 1: Think of the things you could.

00:52:43
Speaker 2: Go out and buy someone with six hundred dollars. Or here's a one minute video on your phone.

00:52:48
Speaker 1: All right, finally Bo Jackson.

00:52:51
Speaker 2: Huh, I wouldn't have had Bo as a cameo guy. He's been kind of low key.

00:52:55
Speaker 3: I'd love a cameo from Bo Jackson.

00:52:57
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll buy you one, billy, if it's under forty five dollars.

00:53:01
Speaker 1: Ain't I'll say Bo Jackson is two hundred two twenty five, one hundred and fifty dollars for Bo Jackson. Can't get that for you, billy. Sorry, So there you go, little cameo information. So Vikings beat the Lines you was seven to twenty four. Panthers upset the Packers for the second year in a row. What a crazy what a crazy result that the Panthers have beaten the Packers now two years in a row. They win sixteen thirteen. Jordan Love was awful, including a terrible fourth down throw towards the end of the game. The Panthers, by the way, have been an underdog in every game this year, and yet here they sit five and four.

00:54:00
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're the second NFL team since nineteen seventy to have a winning record being an underdog. And Bryce Young missed a game, which is one of their losses. So Bryce Young is a starter. Is five and three. I mean, his stats are very rarely impressive. People are like debating is he good or not? But he's got a lot of coming from behind fourth quarter wins, and he had a game winning drive today to set them up for that field goal. So good for Bryce Young and the Panthers, and good for mew Mix out there too. Y'all just keep saying that you see.

00:54:26
Speaker 1: They're coming back. No they can't come back. No back to celebrate the win meal Mix is returning. Then they're gonna lose.

00:54:34
Speaker 3: Not good for the season.

00:54:36
Speaker 1: They're winning Now Mixed because you left, they're coming back the room. Now Mixed said they were gonna do it. I like they wrote a reunion episode. They've been gone for one month. It probably will get a ton of listens. I'll tune in. Yes, a reunion episode. The meow Mix people are back, So good for them. I think the story for this game, though, is the way the Packers were awful. Two turnovers in the red zone. That's that's terrible. But even worse were the uniforms. Well, I think keep doing that they wore they wore you don't like the like old leatherhead helmets.

00:55:15
Speaker 2: I'm not normally mister uniform, where are your colors? I actually like when teams mix it up. But we had the Rogers reunion with the Packers just a week ago and they wore goofy uniforms for what two of the iconic looks in football, and then today I didn't even know.

00:55:31
Speaker 1: I took me a minute to figure out what team was playing when I turned on the Packers wearing navy and leather. Yeah, I didn't like it. I like the leather helmet look. I kind of think that's cool, But there are just a couple teams that probably shouldn't do it a lot, and the Packers would be number one, and they've now done it twice, and the steel like you said, the Steelers did it last week, and so it feels like, along with the Cowboys, those are the three most iconic looks I don't. I mean, you can't just have the Cowboys showing up with candy canes on them. I mean, at some point you do have to have some respect for what you're in. Boy, right, I believe that's why the Packers lost.

00:56:08
Speaker 2: If you want to be a clown and go loose, litte lost last week.

00:56:12
Speaker 1: Yeah, y'all want to y'all want to put on your clown uniforms, you'll get clown results.

00:56:15
Speaker 3: The Bucks and the Seahawks had a good uniform game, and that's the first of all.

00:56:19
Speaker 1: I don't care what they do. They can come out with like corsets on if they want. They're the Bucks and the Seahawks. That's not tradition. Laced team.

00:56:29
Speaker 3: Well, if you'd like when the Giants wore their kind of nineties throwback today.

00:56:34
Speaker 1: Yeah, but that's not just slightly changing. I mean this is literally like both of those uniforms have looked like a child vomited paint all over them. They weren't wearing green or yellow team. Yeah, I just they're completely different. And I just think of all the teams to do it, those are the teams that should do it the least.

00:56:54
Speaker 2: Oh no, I agree, especially just coming off when you just did it. And this on a serious note, they lost Tucker Craft today, which is huge. She's been playing so well. Looks like an ACL So just a horrible day for the Packers all the way around.

00:57:06
Speaker 1: Loved and looked good.

00:57:07
Speaker 2: You lose a star tight end, you looked like idiots. You lose the Panthers a bad showing.

00:57:12
Speaker 1: About the penalty. En Rico Downdell for the key and peel dance.

00:57:16
Speaker 2: It is a little I'm not I'm not saying we have to be Pg. Thirteen all the time, but it had a little bit of a provocative Too many.

00:57:25
Speaker 1: Thrusts for drew one. I think one thrust through Okay.

00:57:29
Speaker 2: I think if he had thrusted once, he could have gone to the bench, nobody would have noticed.

00:57:33
Speaker 1: But the second thrust. You can't have two thrusts. Yeah, this is a family family league, and.

00:57:37
Speaker 3: The skit it's three that gets them the penalty. So he did two and got the penalty.

00:57:42
Speaker 1: Yeah, do you think he was going to stop at three?

00:57:45
Speaker 3: I think if he didn't do three, he shouldn't have got the penalty, just because.

00:57:48
Speaker 1: I didn't realize I've never seen the skit.

00:57:50
Speaker 3: So the skit, the whole Yeah, the whole thing is waiting for the third pump and then he.

00:57:54
Speaker 1: Oh, that's right, okay, I have seen it. Yeah. Well he got two, and so I've bet in his mind he thought, I'm not doing the third, I won't get the penalty. But you have to remember you're dealing with referees that are old people who they don't watch Key and Peel unless it's on Hannity. They didn't see it. Well, it mattered.

00:58:10
Speaker 3: They missed the extra point, and then Green Bay was able.

00:58:12
Speaker 1: To well, they ended up winning the game. He can do it every once if he keeps running like that. Though he had another huge game, It is time for our weekly sadness known as the Tennessee Titans report drew. They lose to the Chargers, keeping my survivor league. Then, oh, sorry you had I had the Rams all right, so we both remained in it. Uh, what do you got? Well, Matt, big day for the Titans. We covered a point spread. Let's all just do it this year, right, Yes?

00:58:42
Speaker 2: Yeah, the Cards won a game. Actually, now let's talk about why that's funny. They went up early, went up twice. They had a punt return touchdown and an interception return touchdown interception return touchdown.

00:58:55
Speaker 1: First.

00:58:56
Speaker 2: Uh, there was a stat let me find it. It's I believe it's like they're only like the fifth team ever to not win a game when they have a punt return touchdown in an interception return touch down in the same game. That's happened ninety times and eighty five times the team wins. So even when we're making plays, we still can't.

00:59:13
Speaker 1: Get it done. But you won, we covered, we didn't win. That's a win for me. We have a bye next week. That's a win. That is the best week of the seasons for the Titans. You could go do something. The pub return was fun. Cam Ward's still not looking great. It's just as a sign you are you giving up by the end of the year, Will Levis back? You won?

00:59:37
Speaker 2: Oh, I'm ready to bring Kerry Collins back at this point. Neil O'Donnell, bring them all back.

00:59:42
Speaker 1: Zach Bettenberger, Nora O'Donnell.

00:59:45
Speaker 4: No.

00:59:45
Speaker 1: I still like cam Ward.

00:59:46
Speaker 2: I don't want him to go anywhere, but there's just no help around him. Although we got some young receivers that are flashing some talent on the Chargers end, Herbert just continues to get killed. The Titans defense was wrecking him and Joe Alt, one of his protectors, got injured again. So even though the Chargers got to win, they are gonna get.

01:00:03
Speaker 1: Herbert killed at some point this year. He just continued to get mauled. The Rams beat the Saints thirty four to ten. I will admit I didn't see one millisecond of this game, except I did see the highlight of the no look pass. Are you a fan?

01:00:20
Speaker 2: It blows my mind that Matthew Stafford does this. Mahomes two. There are a couple others who've done it once or twice, but they seem to do it consistently. He had another big game, four touchdowns, something crazy. Devanta Adams I think passed Tony Gonzalez for touchdowns, but he hit him one time middle of the field, probably twenty yards down the field.

01:00:37
Speaker 1: But it's the no look.

01:00:38
Speaker 2: He's over here looking right and just zips it, hits him right in the numbers and stride anyone in the NFL. Great athlete, unbelievably talented. The no look passes that he pulls off, it's witchcraft.

01:00:50
Speaker 1: To me. I do not understand how he's able to do it. It is very impressive. It also, I think often is unnecessary in terms of this. One was probably one of those. Yeah, and it was in traffic. I don't think they need to do it. That's cool, it is cool, but at least they got it done. Forty nine Shuck did not do a no look past or four touchdowns. They're going, but neither of those guys are going to play for him again. Forty nine Ers beat the Giants thirty four to twenty four. Mac Jones had his nosebleed moment running down his face. Yeah, it was running down his face. Kept going, I'm Mac Jones.

01:01:23
Speaker 2: Kind of if you're like an old school football player, kind of made you think of old time.

01:01:27
Speaker 1: Just old bloody Mack out there doing his thing. They get the win, Mikhale Williams injured, they just keep I mean, somebody's got to look it.

01:01:37
Speaker 2: It's looking like a season ending too. I mean the forty nine ers, and.

01:01:40
Speaker 1: That's two years in a row that the whole team gets injured. Like on some level, I know it's random, but like.

01:01:46
Speaker 2: And we just said, your starting quarterback has blood running down his face while.

01:01:49
Speaker 1: Throwybody's like, let old bloody Mack do his thing, That's what. But they get the win. Jackson Dart four straight game with a touchdown. Yeah they're running. It's a running touchdown.

01:01:59
Speaker 2: Their problem is defense. They've given up thirty three or more points in three straight games.

01:02:03
Speaker 1: Yeah, Giants.

01:02:04
Speaker 2: They had some fun with Dark and Scataboo there for a little bit, but I think it's going to be back to losing that.

01:02:09
Speaker 1: One, and then finally the Sunday night game, Seahawks beat the Commanders. I think the final score ended up being what thirty eight to ten. I stopped watching when it was twenty one to nothing after they got the fumble recovery. Is Jade Daniels, it's clearly sophomore slump. I mean, is this like a C. J. Shroud situation. I know he's been hurt, but still this was a poor performance. And if it wasn't for the Bengals defense, I think the Commander's defense might be the worst in the league.

01:02:34
Speaker 2: Yeah, Daniels, we thought he'd slump a little. Last year just seemed too good to be true, and then this year he's been banged up. I won't put any ruling out on him. I think it's been unfair circumstances. But on the other end, Sam Darnold was unbelievable in the first half and he has been good. I know the Vikings have enjoyed McCarthy today, but they've got to be kicking them back.

01:02:55
Speaker 1: I mean, he was good as a backup in San Francisco, right, which is how he got the Minnesota deal, which then leads to this deal is it. Why did everybody just assume because he was bad with the Jet, everyone's bad with the Jets. Maybe maybe he's good.

01:03:14
Speaker 2: And he went Jets Panthers, like two of the teams where you shouldn't create anyone. He was a Jet then a Panther. People just threw him away.

01:03:21
Speaker 1: Baker was on that Panthers and No.

01:03:23
Speaker 2: Two of the best both of them, maybe two of the best quarterbacks in the NFC right now. But darnold, they put up a graphic in the first half when he was tearing it up. And he's top five in most quarterback stats the last two seasons and you wouldn't think of that, and the Vikings let that walk out the door. But he's been great.

01:03:40
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, a bad playoff game against but it's one game. Yeah it was.

01:03:44
Speaker 1: It was a great.

01:03:45
Speaker 3: Regular season for him last year too.

01:03:46
Speaker 1: I mean, Lamars had bad playoff games, like it's okay, and.

01:03:50
Speaker 2: You threw that away for a draft pick that's unproven, like you saw what he did in your regular season.

01:03:54
Speaker 1: Billy clearly hates and has already given up on, which I think is route. So then yeah, so those are our games today. Let's go over a couple of things. First of all, the Survivor League, I had the Rams. They won easily. You had the Chargers less easily, but they won. Now we're both still in it. Now next week, I think I go first.

01:04:14
Speaker 3: Right, No, I go because you were deciding between the Rams or the Chargers, and then you decay you go first. I will go first.

01:04:21
Speaker 1: Okay, that's gonna be a big advantage for you. Well, well, first of all, who have you used?

01:04:26
Speaker 3: I have used the Jags, the Cards, the Bills, the Colts, the Chiefs, and the Patriots.

01:04:32
Speaker 1: And who have I used?

01:04:33
Speaker 3: You have used the Broncos, Baltimore, Detroit, Green Bay, New England, and Indianapolis.

01:04:38
Speaker 1: Right, Well, since you're going first, you can't pick the team that I'm going to take. We'll just take them then, So I'm just gonna take I'm just gonna go ahead and tell you. I mean, we'll pick these the next show. But I'm gonna go ahead and tell you I'm taking the Bills against the Dolphins.

01:04:51
Speaker 3: Oh, McDaniels, he's he's going to stay yeah the year. Yeah, I said that he's going to finish the year.

01:04:58
Speaker 2: So I'm not the biggest points spread thought.

01:05:00
Speaker 1: It's the Broncos. Raiders, But I don't like that when the Raiders could win that game. Besides the however, besides the game with the Bills Dolphins, these spreads are all very small. They're all like three and a half, four and a half. This is gonna be a hard choice for you. I'm sitting here looking at these. None of these in my opinion, Billy, I don't know what you think. None of these next week are obvious a lot of teams that are very similarly matched. The fact that I have the Bills is really good for me because these other ones I actually think are quite hard.

01:05:34
Speaker 2: And you can't just fade the Titans they're off.

01:05:37
Speaker 1: Yes, and the Browns play the Jets, so that's two bad teams playing each other. Yeah, and Saints play the Panthers. Do you want to believe in the Panthers as your team? And then the rest of the teams are kind of even?

01:05:48
Speaker 3: Yeah, you want to stay away from divisional matchups, so that Denver, Las Vegas and then Carolina New Orleans is scary.

01:05:56
Speaker 1: You don't have to pick to Wednesday. But where are you leaning on this next week?

01:06:00
Speaker 3: I mean, I really like Bryce Young and what he's been doing so that's definitely in my mind.

01:06:04
Speaker 1: But you're thinking about taking the Panthers in the Survivor League.

01:06:09
Speaker 3: I actually think Seattle has a favorable matchup at home versus Arizona here too.

01:06:13
Speaker 2: Arizona plays tomorrow night, short game to her short wrist. Gotta go, yeah, Sam, No, that's probably the one. That's probably a good pick.

01:06:22
Speaker 1: But the fact you and I are still going yeah either way, I'd hate to be the guy that's already out of the lead.

01:06:27
Speaker 2: You know you're looking at this wrong. I get to sit here and just there's no pressure. I just watched you all. It's like I'm a spectator, just enjoying the show. I don't have to think about these tough decisions.

01:06:35
Speaker 1: It's big money coming down the stretch here. What happened with the quarterback thing? I got mine right.

01:06:40
Speaker 3: Yeah, Josh Allen of rushing another rushing touch?

01:06:42
Speaker 1: I now I have four.

01:06:43
Speaker 3: I did not Little lad McConkie didn't score for the Chargers, so I saw three three, and then Jamiir Gibbs did not score for the Lions, so Drew remains at one.

01:06:52
Speaker 1: I think Dan Campbell has had it out for me today. How does Gibbs have like twenty yards. Well, what are we doing in a lost see it you only had twenty five yards.

01:07:00
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was healthy too. Wasn't like an injury situation. That's probably because I picked him.

01:07:05
Speaker 1: Well, I enjoyed the week. I really enjoyed that Bears win.

01:07:10
Speaker 2: Congratulations on your first win as a fan.

01:07:14
Speaker 1: Well, I mean I've seen them wins on television, but yes, it was the first time I saw them as a fan and it was a lot of fun. And let me tell you what I like about it. On the way out of the stadium. You don't how many high fives that gave to strangers. Oh yeah, that's the best part. The high strangers as you walk out of a road stadium. Call. That's a lot of fun with everybody going bear down.

01:07:40
Speaker 2: You know, that's one of the best parts in sports, even if you haven't.

01:07:43
Speaker 1: Won the game.

01:07:44
Speaker 2: Leading into the game, being the way team you might see somebode in the lobby, you just give each other a little point or a little high five. It's that it's that bond you're going to ward gets together on ford soil.

01:07:55
Speaker 1: You got the win. That was so that was a really really neat thing and I enjoyed it so an awesome day, and thank you all for listening to Week nine. Remember we're coming to Buffalo in two weeks, so we welcome all Buffalo suggestions because we are headed there in two weeks for Bucks Bills. But until Wednesday, we'll see you later. This has been NFL Cover zero. NFL Covers Zero with Matt Jones and Drew Franklin is a production of the NFL and iHeart podcast. For more podcasts from Iheartradiovi is the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.