Interview with Robert Hays: Part 2 The Sequel

<v Speaker 1>Hey, everybody, this is Robert Hayes and you're listening to
<v Speaker 1>the Surely you Can't Be Serious podcast. When I was
<v Speaker 1>a little boy, he's brob me so much joy and
<v Speaker 1>the music kick but like nothing today. Say the world
<v Speaker 1>went insane, but that's when surely you came indeed be
<v Speaker 1>joy in that same all the way.
<v Speaker 2>Say there's a time to scene, say we won't cross
<v Speaker 2>the streets.
<v Speaker 1>Surely this can be the best there is.
<v Speaker 3>Say to my rocket queen, come back against the recon scene.
<v Speaker 1>Surely you can. You can't be serious?
<v Speaker 4>All right, guys, thanks for coming back for part two
<v Speaker 4>of our interview with mister Robert Hayes, star of the
<v Speaker 4>Airplane movies, And in case you missed the interview last week,
<v Speaker 4>check it out. This actually happened during our interview.
<v Speaker 1>Peter Graves after he threw the script down so that
<v Speaker 1>the biggest piece of garbage I've ever written that I've
<v Speaker 1>ever read, and his daughters said, Dad, but they're really
<v Speaker 1>talking about this is gonna be funny. You got to
<v Speaker 1>read it again. The agent said, Peter, there's buzz about this.
<v Speaker 1>You got to read it. So he said, okay, whoa
<v Speaker 1>Julie Hagy.
<v Speaker 2>Go ahead, answer, yeah, go ahead and answer Julie.
<v Speaker 4>All right, guys, That actually is actress Julie Haggerty, who
<v Speaker 4>called right in the middle of our interview, just purely
<v Speaker 4>by chance and because we were talking to mister Robert
<v Speaker 4>Hayes at the time, he was nice enough to put
<v Speaker 4>her on speakerphone and we actually got to speak with
<v Speaker 4>her a little.
<v Speaker 1>Bit as well.
<v Speaker 4>It was super cool. We were so stoked. So please
<v Speaker 4>enjoy part two of our interview with mister Robert Hayes
<v Speaker 4>with a little bonus conversation with Miss Julie Haggerty.
<v Speaker 1>Thanks, guys, Can I put you on speaker real quick?
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna put you on speaker Okay. I'm with Dean
<v Speaker 1>Jason on their podcast and we're talking about you right now.
<v Speaker 1>Oh my gosh, what a day.
<v Speaker 5>Hi Julie, Hello everybody.
<v Speaker 3>Oh my gosh. We love you.
<v Speaker 1>Oh I love.
<v Speaker 5>You guys, and I love that Bobby.
<v Speaker 1>We actually we prepared this. I told her to give
<v Speaker 1>us a call, give me a they're getting, they're getting
<v Speaker 1>two for the price of one. We're talking about the
<v Speaker 1>upcoming shows that we're doing.
<v Speaker 5>Oh wonderful. I know that's what I call it, because
<v Speaker 5>we're going to be seeing each other in just a
<v Speaker 5>few days.
<v Speaker 2>Yes, yeah, so you guys about the live tour, tell
<v Speaker 2>us about it.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, we're going to be showing the film and
<v Speaker 1>beyond tour around the country showing the film. Julie and
<v Speaker 1>I are going to come out afterwards. Dan Pasternak is
<v Speaker 1>our moderator. He's done lots of stuff for Turner Classics
<v Speaker 1>and TNT, He's produced a bunch of stuff. Teach his film.
<v Speaker 1>He knows all about it, and then we do questions
<v Speaker 1>from the audience, and then afterwards we do a little
<v Speaker 1>meet and greet and take pictures with people and having
<v Speaker 1>a lot of fun. It's just a lot of fun.
<v Speaker 1>That's fantastic.
<v Speaker 2>Well, you guys are so personal, personable and wonderful. I
<v Speaker 2>don't know how anybody would want to miss the opportunity
<v Speaker 2>to go see it.
<v Speaker 1>Are you in the camera? Do you remember how many
<v Speaker 1>shows that you have?
<v Speaker 2>I know that I looked at the website and there
<v Speaker 2>was a whole list on the tour. I saw Wisconsin
<v Speaker 2>on there. But there's there's probably two dozen, maybe shows
<v Speaker 2>that you guys are going to do.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, this first round of them is I think there's
<v Speaker 1>ten or twelve on there. I think I've counted him.
<v Speaker 5>Like, yeah, happened either. But there's it's a whole page.
<v Speaker 5>And it's just gonna be so much fun to hang
<v Speaker 5>out with Bob and meet all the people and and
<v Speaker 5>I don't know, I'm just I'm uh, I'm very excited.
<v Speaker 4>It's gonna be so fun.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.
<v Speaker 2>So for everybody who's listening to this right now, if
<v Speaker 2>you're interested in the show, it is I believe that.
<v Speaker 2>The website is Airplane Live Tour dot com, right and
<v Speaker 2>you can go on there see where your closest city
<v Speaker 2>is and go watch one of the greatest movies ever made,
<v Speaker 2>and then talk to a couple of the integral Yeah,
<v Speaker 2>and hang out.
<v Speaker 3>Hang out with you guys.
<v Speaker 4>Wow, it's so weird. You're you're on the Surely you
<v Speaker 4>Can't Be Serious podcasts.
<v Speaker 1>You know what the name of this podcast is, Julie.
<v Speaker 1>It's called Surely you Can't Be Serious. He started it
<v Speaker 1>seven years ago.
<v Speaker 5>Wow, that's and where are you guys?
<v Speaker 4>We're in Oklahoma?
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Norman Oklahoma the home and that's right.
<v Speaker 5>Oh wow, oh wow. He's one of the all time greats.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, he's a favorite son here for sure.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.
<v Speaker 4>Maybe you guys will pass through Dallas or something where
<v Speaker 4>we could come see you guys.
<v Speaker 1>We were hoping, we we were. I guess they're trying
<v Speaker 1>to figure out if we're going to do it. We
<v Speaker 1>had Dallas and Houston and Austin all kind of in
<v Speaker 1>there for a while. But they're they've got to negotiate,
<v Speaker 1>and a lot of people want to use the venues.
<v Speaker 1>So you got to negotiate and see who was there first,
<v Speaker 1>who's offering the most money. He was get the most
<v Speaker 1>kicked back. You know, he's most under the table. Wow.
<v Speaker 2>So I got to know, Julie, what's the story that
<v Speaker 2>you always tell about Robert or Bobby? I guess what's
<v Speaker 2>the story you always tell people about Bobby whenever you're
<v Speaker 2>whenever you're asked.
<v Speaker 5>What, Well, just like when he would show up to work, Uh, well,
<v Speaker 5>he always showed up. But you always knew that he
<v Speaker 5>was on the soundstage because you would hear him getting closer.
<v Speaker 5>But there were just waves of laughter, so you could say, oh,
<v Speaker 5>they're laughing over and makeup Bobs there surf because people
<v Speaker 5>are laughing. He just would bring joy to you know, everybody.
<v Speaker 1>Wow, I was paying off my bets. They were laughing
<v Speaker 1>because they said I thought you'd never do it.
<v Speaker 5>No, he's he's uh, he's uh my favorite leading man.
<v Speaker 4>Oh my gosh, well that's high praise.
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, you know, that was my first movie, and I
<v Speaker 5>just he just kind of took me under his wing.
<v Speaker 5>He was doing Angie at the time, and uh, you know,
<v Speaker 5>so he would run from the Angie over and then
<v Speaker 5>do airplane all on a day.
<v Speaker 1>Wow, the last two weeks.
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it's just you know, and as scared as I was,
<v Speaker 5>Bob just always made you feel safe and happy and uh,
<v Speaker 5>you know, just I didn't even know about where you
<v Speaker 5>were supposed to stand, or being in somebody's light or
<v Speaker 5>any of that stuff.
<v Speaker 4>Bob just moved me around.
<v Speaker 5>Stand there.
<v Speaker 1>It was my first film too, but I was so cocky.
<v Speaker 1>I just acted like I knew.
<v Speaker 3>He was dead striking.
<v Speaker 1>I was acting.
<v Speaker 5>Oh okay, okay, no, there isn't a cocky bone in
<v Speaker 5>your body.
<v Speaker 1>Okay, okay, well listen, I'll call you back, call me back.
<v Speaker 5>And it was nice to visit with you guys. Oh,
<v Speaker 5>I'm driving in California and people are honking at me.
<v Speaker 4>So wonderful speaking with you. What a wonderful surprise.
<v Speaker 3>I hope you had a wonderful trip. I heard you
<v Speaker 3>were traveling.
<v Speaker 4>Yes, so we were.
<v Speaker 5>In Uh yeah, we were in Spain and I just
<v Speaker 5>got home and uh just looking forward to seeing Bob
<v Speaker 5>and doing his tour and meeting all the people. And
<v Speaker 5>I got to meet you guys over the phone, and
<v Speaker 5>so wow, wonderful.
<v Speaker 1>What a day, what a day.
<v Speaker 5>Well, thanks for letting me crash. And uh, I'll talk
<v Speaker 5>to you.
<v Speaker 1>Perfectly, okay, c bye, I will talk. I'll call you afterwards. Uh,
<v Speaker 1>I love you, okay, bye bye, love you, Bye.
<v Speaker 4>Bye, Julie, bye bye.
<v Speaker 1>Oh my gosh, that's her voice, that's her.
<v Speaker 3>She doesn't put it exactly the same. Yeah, just exactly.
<v Speaker 1>When we were behind that we did a scene right
<v Speaker 1>behind the cockpit and we're, you know, going back and
<v Speaker 1>forth and they said action and I think, uh she
<v Speaker 1>had the first line, I think, and she screwed it
<v Speaker 1>up and they said cut and she said, I'm sorry.
<v Speaker 1>I said, no, no, Julie, don't worry about it. That's okay,
<v Speaker 1>that's okay, Okay, we're gonna go again. She said, I'm sorry.
<v Speaker 1>I said, don't worry about it. If you got the line,
<v Speaker 1>did you give her the line? Yep, we're all set. Okay, okay,
<v Speaker 1>are you ready? I'm sorry, yeah, no, know go. So
<v Speaker 1>what I was we like, you know, at the time,
<v Speaker 1>I'm doing Angie, but I was also going back and
<v Speaker 1>forth the last two weeks of it doing it, and
<v Speaker 1>and what I used to do on Angie, uh was
<v Speaker 1>we'd have a kid come on and he's just got
<v Speaker 1>one little small scene and he's so nervous and he's
<v Speaker 1>so scared enough tight, and I would he would blow
<v Speaker 1>a line and then they'd say, kt, okay, let's go again.
<v Speaker 1>We'd go again, ready and action, and then I'd blow
<v Speaker 1>the line and then I'd say, look to me, you
<v Speaker 1>did this, and he'd he'd go like that, and then
<v Speaker 1>he realized I was joking. Then he would laugh. Everybody
<v Speaker 1>was laughing, and then he was relaxed, and then he
<v Speaker 1>get the line again and I'd say, okay, I got
<v Speaker 1>my eye on you, you know, and then he would laugh.
<v Speaker 1>And then we'd do the scene and he's comfortable. And
<v Speaker 1>I was thinking about that, Gee, I wonder if I
<v Speaker 1>should do that or not. And they said action and
<v Speaker 1>she did her line, and I just did it and
<v Speaker 1>kind of blew the line. And I think it's because
<v Speaker 1>I was thinking about should I or shouldn't I, and
<v Speaker 1>I blew the line and she said I'm sorry, and
<v Speaker 1>I said, no, no, Julie, it was Bob. It wasn't you.
<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry. That's great. It's the sweetest thing on the planet. Yeah.
<v Speaker 3>Wow.
<v Speaker 1>Anyway, what a surprise that was. That was fun surprise
<v Speaker 1>that was.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that made time good enough time. Yeah, I'm going
<v Speaker 3>to just go.
<v Speaker 2>I'm just going to go sit by myself and just
<v Speaker 2>think about how blessed I am.
<v Speaker 3>Incredible.
<v Speaker 2>So I I've got We've got so many questions, and
<v Speaker 2>I don't want to take up more of your time,
<v Speaker 2>but I just two things that I want to talk about.
<v Speaker 2>Tell me about your first meeting with the boys and
<v Speaker 2>and what that experience was like. And then I also
<v Speaker 2>I just want to Kat's Eye is one of one
<v Speaker 2>of our favorites from when we were younger guys, and
<v Speaker 2>I would just be curious about a little bit of
<v Speaker 2>a story behind making that movie.
<v Speaker 1>Well with with Airplane with the Boys, my agent, Arnie
<v Speaker 1>Soloway was my agent. He was he was one of
<v Speaker 1>the clients Embroidered. They were doing needle Point and they
<v Speaker 1>made a pillow that had a heart on it, and
<v Speaker 1>it was it said hustler with a heart. And he
<v Speaker 1>was the typical New York Jewish agent, you know, Brooklyn guy.
<v Speaker 1>And his shirt was always unbuttoned down to the middle
<v Speaker 1>of his belly. He had gold chains hanging on and
<v Speaker 1>always was out in the sun. Always looked like a
<v Speaker 1>coffee bean, you know he was. And he was, yeah, well, Bobby, baby,
<v Speaker 1>you know that kind of guy I got. I got
<v Speaker 1>a role to go to read for and I went,
<v Speaker 1>wait a minute, this isn't me. It was just like
<v Speaker 1>a It was that character, you know, with all that stuff.
<v Speaker 1>And he said, hey, just go in and be me.
<v Speaker 1>But he uh he had a new agent come in
<v Speaker 1>named Beth Voyq and she had worked with Howard Coach
<v Speaker 1>and uh so she she came into the agency and
<v Speaker 1>uh she called Howard up and said, Howard, you guys
<v Speaker 1>are still looking for your ted Striker. He says, yeah,
<v Speaker 1>we're looking at him. I got him, and he said,
<v Speaker 1>we'll bring him by. So, you know, I got the picture,
<v Speaker 1>resume and everything and took it over. But you know,
<v Speaker 1>brought me in. So I go in and I meet
<v Speaker 1>Howard in his office and the boys were there, and
<v Speaker 1>so we met and we all liked each other. We
<v Speaker 1>all got along and and and then they had me
<v Speaker 1>read and they liked my reading, and they said, okay, great,
<v Speaker 1>well let's uh, let's go testament. They had Julie and
<v Speaker 1>they wanted Julie and this, and they had been everywhere.
<v Speaker 1>They've been in New York and Dallas, Chicago, Detroit, the Seattle, Minnesota, Minneapolis.
<v Speaker 1>I mean they've been everywhere, all over LA and they
<v Speaker 1>just couldn't find the right Ted Striker and Bruce Jenner
<v Speaker 1>when Caitlyn was Bruce Jenner wanted to The joke David
<v Speaker 1>has is that Bruce came in twice to read for
<v Speaker 1>Ted and came in a third time to read for Julie's.
<v Speaker 1>But I don't know how true that is. But a
<v Speaker 1>lot of people, you know, big people wanted to get
<v Speaker 1>in that there was an actress, that big actress, Sigourney
<v Speaker 1>Weaver maybe or somebody like that, got dressed out in
<v Speaker 1>the hole way different. Yeah, forty these forties stewardess outfit everything,
<v Speaker 1>came in and read. It was like, Wow, this is
<v Speaker 1>someone's really committed. But she started telling them, Okay, I'm
<v Speaker 1>not going to say that line and I'm not gonna
<v Speaker 1>say a line, this one has to be changed to
<v Speaker 1>this and this, and they all were kind of looking
<v Speaker 1>at each other and they're thinking, okay, well, thank you
<v Speaker 1>very much. Yeah boy yeah, like oh gosh, because that's
<v Speaker 1>the thing. Those lines they had rewritten, rewritten, rewritten, and
<v Speaker 1>there was no improv that was that was them. So
<v Speaker 1>that was a disaster. I think they escaped from having
<v Speaker 1>someone come in and change everything. So they got Julie.
<v Speaker 1>Julie just seemed perfect, but they didn't have Ted, and
<v Speaker 1>they thought, well, this has got possibilities. We like, you know,
<v Speaker 1>we like him. Let's see what it looks like. The
<v Speaker 1>studio wanted to test three people, three couples, and so
<v Speaker 1>they put Julie and me together. I just always figured
<v Speaker 1>I was really lucky that I got to test with
<v Speaker 1>Julie and she felt that way about me, and but
<v Speaker 1>I guess that was their plan. And so they did
<v Speaker 1>the three couples and the word came back. They liked
<v Speaker 1>my spit take you know when uh uh you know,
<v Speaker 1>how how's uh you know, how's what's his name? Oh zip? Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>he died that morning and then you see the spit
<v Speaker 1>take go, And they said they liked my spit take
<v Speaker 1>so anyway, they so they cast me and then they
<v Speaker 1>came over. They were on the other side of PARAMOUNTA
<v Speaker 1>and they came over when we were rehearsing Angie the
<v Speaker 1>scene and they got my attention. Went back behind the
<v Speaker 1>big cyclorama and the wall. There's a space about three
<v Speaker 1>feet or so, and we huddled back there and they said, okay,
<v Speaker 1>well that's it. You're the one we want you. And
<v Speaker 1>it was like whoa. So it's like the little kids
<v Speaker 1>jumping up and down and excited. And said, okay, well,
<v Speaker 1>I just uh, you better get back to work. And
<v Speaker 1>we got to get to work, so we'll talk soon.
<v Speaker 1>And they said great, and so I left. And as
<v Speaker 1>they're leaving and they're walking across the parking lot, Jim said.
<v Speaker 1>He turned to the boys, the other two, and he said,
<v Speaker 1>you know, maybe we should take a look at this Angie.
<v Speaker 1>We've never we never looked at it.
<v Speaker 5>Wow.
<v Speaker 1>They went and they got a copy of you know,
<v Speaker 1>one of the episodes or a few of them, and
<v Speaker 1>they looked at it and they said, oh god, what
<v Speaker 1>have we done. That's a totally different thing. That's aha slapstick,
<v Speaker 1>you know, and it's it's uh it's yuck, yak yak.
<v Speaker 1>The audience applause signs. You know, you're playing, you're standing
<v Speaker 1>in the sunlight. You've got five shadows, you know, because
<v Speaker 1>of all the light. Right, So it's just they thought,
<v Speaker 1>oh geez. And then they we got on the set
<v Speaker 1>and after the first day they said, oh, it's good.
<v Speaker 1>It's all working good. So wow. That was That was
<v Speaker 1>the way that happened. Beth used to come over in
<v Speaker 1>the set because she was so excited that it all
<v Speaker 1>worked out, and she'd come over for like the first
<v Speaker 1>out in a week or so, and every time she'd
<v Speaker 1>come in the set, they'd run up towards say thank you,
<v Speaker 1>thank you, thank you, thank you.
<v Speaker 3>Great. Oh.
<v Speaker 1>I liked hearing that. That was good nice, But it
<v Speaker 1>was then it just kind of, you know, we just
<v Speaker 1>kept and and their whole idea. I was. I was
<v Speaker 1>thinking about that the other day. Someone asked me about that.
<v Speaker 1>I was thinking about it. When I was in Grossmont.
<v Speaker 1>I started developing this thing in my mind. When you're
<v Speaker 1>young actor, you're a sponge and you just soak up everything.
<v Speaker 1>I could see Henry Fonda and Jimmy Stewart do and
<v Speaker 1>all the you know, little things that Cooper would do
<v Speaker 1>and and carry Grant and you know all these and
<v Speaker 1>other some of the other actors too, but you soak
<v Speaker 1>it all up and then you kind of try to
<v Speaker 1>do it like them, so you're emulating them and it's
<v Speaker 1>not right yet, but you're you're starting that process. And
<v Speaker 1>then as you when you're doing theater every night, you're
<v Speaker 1>doing it again and again and again and again and
<v Speaker 1>and then and Matt and Ay's Wednesdays and Saturdays and Sundays,
<v Speaker 1>and so you got nine shows a week to do
<v Speaker 1>these things, and you know, ah, you start making it
<v Speaker 1>your own, you know, right, and then and then it
<v Speaker 1>becomes like that's not Ry Fondas, that's yours, you know,
<v Speaker 1>And that's not Jimmy's, That's that's yours. But uh. I
<v Speaker 1>also I did mister Roberts, which was one of my
<v Speaker 1>favorite that I'd always wanted to do that role, and
<v Speaker 1>and I did it on NBC Live, the big event
<v Speaker 1>to where you feel it and the cameras are on
<v Speaker 1>and it's going live across the country and delayed for the
<v Speaker 1>West coast, but in the Midwest and the East, it's
<v Speaker 1>all live. And Josh Logan, who wrote it, co wrote
<v Speaker 1>it and directed the play and came in and did
<v Speaker 1>the film. Was technically advisor with us, so it was
<v Speaker 1>you know, Charles Derning was and Kevin Bacon was Pulver.
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it was quite a big thing. Hal Hessem
<v Speaker 1>was doc and he was terrific it William Powell's role,
<v Speaker 1>so uh. And then I got to do it again
<v Speaker 1>at my home at the Globe Theater, and so you
<v Speaker 1>do over and over and I heard some I think
<v Speaker 1>it was the stage manager told me as people were
<v Speaker 1>milling out of the theater because of the time, maybe just
<v Speaker 1>the way I talk, And part of it is is
<v Speaker 1>because of the years that I lived in Nebraska growing
<v Speaker 1>up too, which is where Fonda is from. And yeah,
<v Speaker 1>you know, when you're talking like that, he had a
<v Speaker 1>thing where he I'm not sure that's what I want
<v Speaker 1>to do, but it's all that. It's got that sing
<v Speaker 1>songy kind of thing, and I kind of have some
<v Speaker 1>of that in my voice. And somebody walked out of
<v Speaker 1>a theater and there's a big navy town, so you know,
<v Speaker 1>they walk out and they're old guys and they all
<v Speaker 1>know the Fonda era and they say, well, he doesn't
<v Speaker 1>look like Fonda, but he sure sounded like him. I'm
<v Speaker 1>not trying to do that, but you just eventually become
<v Speaker 1>your own version of it. Of all of that that
<v Speaker 1>Castle role, of so many different ingredients, so many different actors,
<v Speaker 1>and all that kind of blends and stews up into
<v Speaker 1>what you become, know fantastic for cats. I it was
<v Speaker 1>it was in uh was it North Carolina? I think,
<v Speaker 1>And it was during the Olympics, in eighty four Olympics,
<v Speaker 1>I think in La Yeah.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.
<v Speaker 1>Freddie Heitz was my He was my stunt double on that,
<v Speaker 1>and I had him you know, like football, when you
<v Speaker 1>get all suited up and then you're seeing each other,
<v Speaker 1>you know, pop each other like that and get you
<v Speaker 1>all hit and the way. And I had to do
<v Speaker 1>the scene going around the ledge. I wanted him to
<v Speaker 1>really really get me all shaken up. And then at
<v Speaker 1>the end when I come tumbling back in and I'm
<v Speaker 1>covered and sweat and I'm just the pigeon has already
<v Speaker 1>pecked away. I just wiped out, and I wanted to
<v Speaker 1>really be it just really rattled and exhausted and everything.
<v Speaker 1>And so he was doing that and I really thrust
<v Speaker 1>myself into him and it kind of went off center.
<v Speaker 1>Just a little so his hand. It was all me doing,
<v Speaker 1>you know, I made that mistake. He got me right
<v Speaker 1>there on the sternum and right at the rib and
<v Speaker 1>it kind of separated. It just sort of like a
<v Speaker 1>crack rib, the same feeling as that, but it was
<v Speaker 1>like whoa, and when ahead and I did the scene,
<v Speaker 1>and then on the lunch break, I went to the
<v Speaker 1>dock and they did an X ray and then I
<v Speaker 1>came back and the very next scene back after lunch
<v Speaker 1>was the scene after I's he's blown the trumpet behind
<v Speaker 1>me and I turned around, whoa, and I'd slide down
<v Speaker 1>that big curve thing and land on the ledge and
<v Speaker 1>the ledge was right across where that crack was.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.
<v Speaker 1>So they're looking at Daily and say, God, yeah, you
<v Speaker 1>really really looking like you're really showing the stuff. And
<v Speaker 1>I said, I am, but gosh, that was a really
<v Speaker 1>it was a neat thing. Kenny McMillan was wonderful to
<v Speaker 1>work with. It was such a great actor. And Jimmy
<v Speaker 1>Woods was in the first section of Allan King and
<v Speaker 1>Jimmy Woods. Jimmy Woods one of the best actors of
<v Speaker 1>his generation. I think he is good. I hated all
<v Speaker 1>the stuff that happened to him, and I loved seeing,
<v Speaker 1>you know, him being able to claw out of the abyss,
<v Speaker 1>and that was his whole idea. The Oppenheimer that came
<v Speaker 1>from his idea and his script I think originally was
<v Speaker 1>actually I think they invited him up on stage when
<v Speaker 1>they got the award for that, so that was really
<v Speaker 1>cool to see. But he's just great. And little miss Barrymore,
<v Speaker 1>who had known since she was the tiny little thing
<v Speaker 1>before I think before what was the alien, yeah, before et.
<v Speaker 1>My friend had written a script that was like an
<v Speaker 1>airplane version of Hamlet. Okay, so instead of you know,
<v Speaker 1>doing like stabbing the guy in the back, you'd slap
<v Speaker 1>a kick me sign on him, you know, uh when
<v Speaker 1>m King is sitting there and he's got his legs
<v Speaker 1>crossed Hamlet and sneak up and put matches in his
<v Speaker 1>shoe and light hotwood. So it's just silly, silly stuff.
<v Speaker 1>And my friend wrote it and I directed it at
<v Speaker 1>the Variety Arts Theater and in the beginning we had
<v Speaker 1>an interview with the translator. The translator was Ildeco Jade,
<v Speaker 1>who is little Barrymore's her mom. That's her her mom.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah.
<v Speaker 1>So so so, gosh, why can't I think of her?
<v Speaker 5>Drew?
<v Speaker 1>Drew? God, So Drew is all arounding around and I'd say,
<v Speaker 1>come on, Drew, sit down, sit down here, get up here,
<v Speaker 1>sit on my lap, and so, okay, can let's run
<v Speaker 1>that again. And I were sitting there on my lap
<v Speaker 1>or running all around and getting her to sit down,
<v Speaker 1>and uh, and then she does the breast of that.
<v Speaker 1>Her career is pretty remarkable. So I was kind of fun.
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, oh my god, I've just been really lucky.
<v Speaker 1>Talking with some friends about that, buddy, just I don't know,
<v Speaker 1>a few years ago we were talking about it, said, God,
<v Speaker 1>were we lucky that time period that we got to
<v Speaker 1>work in. It was just all so much fun. It
<v Speaker 1>was just all the stuff. It was great now, you know.
<v Speaker 1>And then we complained about, now, look at all the
<v Speaker 1>junk you got to go through and wear a mask
<v Speaker 1>and make sure you got all the you know. And
<v Speaker 1>I remember sitting on a set when I was like
<v Speaker 1>in my twenties, just starting out, and another guy and
<v Speaker 1>we both had you know, bit parts, and there were
<v Speaker 1>two old guys sitting over near us, and they were
<v Speaker 1>probably listening to us. We're all excited about that I
<v Speaker 1>got that, and then they just turned to each other
<v Speaker 1>and they say, God, I remember when it used to
<v Speaker 1>be great, you know, like and they were really old.
<v Speaker 1>They were like fifty fifty five, right, and they were
<v Speaker 1>talking about when they were in their twenties and thirties
<v Speaker 1>and how great it was. And then as I was
<v Speaker 1>doing this, my friend were talking about that, and god, yeah,
<v Speaker 1>it was so great. And I thought, you know, my
<v Speaker 1>son has done a few films. Now he's mainly in music,
<v Speaker 1>but he's done a few films, and he's probably thinking
<v Speaker 1>how great it is. I think it's terrible. All the
<v Speaker 1>rigid structure's weird. There's something kind of cold about it,
<v Speaker 1>and the video stuffs, and you don't have the old camera,
<v Speaker 1>the old you know, film breaking and right, oh got
<v Speaker 1>we got we gotta dust thing in the Atlanza. Dudes,
<v Speaker 1>shoot it again, you know, Oh, don't open up the magazine. Oh,
<v Speaker 1>you know, and excitement of making movies. So I don't know,
<v Speaker 1>very very very lucky. Everyone's lucky at their own times.
<v Speaker 1>I guess I was gonna say, I'm curious to your opinion.
<v Speaker 2>You've been you know, you've been in the industry for
<v Speaker 2>a long time, and there definitely has been a change.
<v Speaker 3>I mean we talk about it all the time.
<v Speaker 2>That's why we go we cover the movies that were
<v Speaker 2>that were going on in the eighties and the nineties,
<v Speaker 2>because that we feel like was the end of the
<v Speaker 2>era and that when you know, when the two thousands
<v Speaker 2>came along, something happened, something changed, and you would you would.
<v Speaker 2>I mean, We've looked at summer releases over twenty years
<v Speaker 2>and you would just have I mean just movie after
<v Speaker 2>movie after movie coming out in the same month that
<v Speaker 2>we're all just brilliant movies. And now it seems like
<v Speaker 2>we're lucky to get one or two a year. And
<v Speaker 2>so what do you what's your opinion on it?
<v Speaker 1>What happened? No, No, it's I don't know exactly. I
<v Speaker 1>think a lot of it is the corporate structure. It's
<v Speaker 1>like when the Golden Age of Hollywood, they say that
<v Speaker 1>was the greatest year in the history of Hollywood. It
<v Speaker 1>was nineteen thirty nine. All of the films that came out,
<v Speaker 1>the films that came out that were never nominated even
<v Speaker 1>would be hands down Oscar winners. That's how incredible that
<v Speaker 1>whole thing was. Jimmy Stewart for one of my if
<v Speaker 1>not my all time favorite, one of my absolute all
<v Speaker 1>time favorite films. Mister Smith goes to Washington and he
<v Speaker 1>didn't get that. That was unbelievable, unbelievable, and then he
<v Speaker 1>gets it. I think it was the next year, was
<v Speaker 1>it when he got it for Hepburn carry Grant. They
<v Speaker 1>redid it with Grace Kelly and Ben Crosby, and then
<v Speaker 1>Frank Sinatra played the role that Jimmy Stewart played the photographer,
<v Speaker 1>and the writer was a woman was a writer, and
<v Speaker 1>they came out to Long Island and it was the
<v Speaker 1>big wedding and the rich girl marrying the guy and
<v Speaker 1>you know, gets back together with bing or in that
<v Speaker 1>case Carrie Grant in the first case that she had
<v Speaker 1>been married to and then they wind up getting back
<v Speaker 1>married again. But I can't it's a famous thing, and
<v Speaker 1>that anyway, that's what he gets. He gets the Supporting
<v Speaker 1>Actor for that. You should have got an Academy Award
<v Speaker 1>for mister Smith. But anyway, that was that was they
<v Speaker 1>call it the Golden Age. Then that was the greatest
<v Speaker 1>year in the history of Hollywood. Then you have a
<v Speaker 1>whole thing through the fifties where you had Marlon Brando
<v Speaker 1>and James Dean and that rebellious thing and John Garfield
<v Speaker 1>in the late forties into the fifties, and that was
<v Speaker 1>a more of a you know, the the anti hero
<v Speaker 1>kind of you know, and get more grit, even though
<v Speaker 1>their wardrobe oftentimes looked very dry cleaned. And then you have,
<v Speaker 1>speaking of that, you go into the sixties where they
<v Speaker 1>show the cowboys and the Pioneers, and instead of having
<v Speaker 1>Roy Rogers hat that's so perfectly buffed and his fringe
<v Speaker 1>is all combed out and you know, everything is dry
<v Speaker 1>clean and perfect for every scene, you have them looking
<v Speaker 1>like they've just been blowing their nose for the past
<v Speaker 1>couple of months in their shirt and wiping their hands
<v Speaker 1>on it, grit under their fingernails, and so it became
<v Speaker 1>like hyper realistic. You know, we're going to get so
<v Speaker 1>grimy that you can smell it from the theater, you know. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>And so then it became that became and also that's
<v Speaker 1>when they started noticing lens flares, which were always considered defects.
<v Speaker 1>So you'd have the sun would make a big flare
<v Speaker 1>across the lens, and that brings attention to the fact
<v Speaker 1>that you've got a camera and it's making a flare,
<v Speaker 1>and it's like, that's a no no, that's a big
<v Speaker 1>no no. But all of a sudden in the sixties
<v Speaker 1>that became, well, man, it's really cool. I guess maybe
<v Speaker 1>it's a little acid left over from last night. That's
<v Speaker 1>really cool. And so that's what. All of a sudden,
<v Speaker 1>you got all these things. And then they do the
<v Speaker 1>drawing little lines on the glass and putting it in front,
<v Speaker 1>and the light would hit it and then it would
<v Speaker 1>just have a little star bursts all over, you know,
<v Speaker 1>and you get a little light glinting off your tooth
<v Speaker 1>and you put that on and you have a star
<v Speaker 1>going off the tooth. So all these things kind of
<v Speaker 1>started changing it. And then and then it got into
<v Speaker 1>the video when you had all of the old soap
<v Speaker 1>operas which were so cold and stark, and it was
<v Speaker 1>that video you didn't have the warmth of a film,
<v Speaker 1>you know. The film emulsion just had this real great
<v Speaker 1>feel to it. The black and white even had that.
<v Speaker 1>It was just so you know, soft, the textures to everything,
<v Speaker 1>and the soap operas were just cut. It's just a
<v Speaker 1>frozen chunk of ice that you etch out the image, right.
<v Speaker 1>And then they started you know the process of making
<v Speaker 1>the plugins, and you make plugins that you can put
<v Speaker 1>in the computer too. There was a process they had
<v Speaker 1>when they started shooting the sitcoms with the the video
<v Speaker 1>and once it's all done, completely done, even have the
<v Speaker 1>titles on it, everything, they pass it through this whole
<v Speaker 1>process with the software in the computer that would give
<v Speaker 1>it that warm tone, soft kind of feel of films.
<v Speaker 1>And now that's just kind of like, you know, the
<v Speaker 1>quality of videos is pretty remarkable now, but it's still real.
<v Speaker 1>It can be crisper than film ever was you so
<v Speaker 1>all of those things and they've affected the I think
<v Speaker 1>they've affected the acting, They've affected the directing, and you
<v Speaker 1>have really brilliant performances now, and you have a lot
<v Speaker 1>of stuff that's like, how the hell are they getting
<v Speaker 1>away with this? Is this is so bad? And they
<v Speaker 1>wanted me to come and do a guest spot on
<v Speaker 1>a TV show and I looked at an episode of
<v Speaker 1>the thing. I went, I can't are you kidding? This
<v Speaker 1>thing is so bad. It is so bad. And they said,
<v Speaker 1>but this is one of the highest rated shows on TV.
<v Speaker 1>I said, man, that is a big problem. That's a
<v Speaker 1>huge problem for everybody. If this is the best you got.
<v Speaker 1>Oh man, Oh my god. So so it's just god.
<v Speaker 1>I love old movies. I mean, I just love old
<v Speaker 1>movies and the black and whites and the film noirs
<v Speaker 1>and and and I love seeing black and whites as
<v Speaker 1>black and whites. When Turner started colorizing things, and people
<v Speaker 1>would tell me yeah, but they went back and they
<v Speaker 1>researched it, and they found out what the actual colors were. Well,
<v Speaker 1>my buddy's his uncle Teddy just I mean, he's got
<v Speaker 1>a lot of family in theater since the eighteen hundreds,
<v Speaker 1>big family stuff. And also his mom's his mom's cousin.
<v Speaker 1>I guess his mom's mother's sisters daughters. I'd be her cousin.
<v Speaker 1>So his first cousin, once removed, was a woman. She
<v Speaker 1>had gone off. The cousin had gone off and married
<v Speaker 1>this guy in Tijuana and they had a review and
<v Speaker 1>their daughter had become sort of the star of the review.
<v Speaker 1>And she came up when she was young to Hollywood
<v Speaker 1>and started working. But she was sixteen, I think some
<v Speaker 1>of the Andy Hardy movies, and she changed her last
<v Speaker 1>name Cansino to Their name was Haworth, and she changed
<v Speaker 1>it to Hayworth be to Hayworth was. That's kind of
<v Speaker 1>part of his family. Well, Teddy Haworth, his uncle Teddy
<v Speaker 1>was a production designer and he did The Wild One
<v Speaker 1>with Marlon Brando. Yeah, he won the Academy Award for
<v Speaker 1>Marty remember that John Conry Ernie borgnine, No, Marney Marnie
<v Speaker 1>was with Sean Connery. Marty was the old you know,
<v Speaker 1>the big fat Italian guy. Hey Marty, what do you
<v Speaker 1>want to do? I don't know, Sally, what do you
<v Speaker 1>want to do? I don't know what do you want?
<v Speaker 5>I mean?
<v Speaker 1>It was just that slight life in New York. But
<v Speaker 1>he won the Academy Award for that, and he won
<v Speaker 1>the Academy Award for Cyanara with Marlon Brando and Red
<v Speaker 1>Buttons and over in Japan, that whole thing. He was
<v Speaker 1>nominated five times, maybe sometimes he said. The first thing
<v Speaker 1>he would ask when the producer came with, you know,
<v Speaker 1>they said, here's the film we want to do. The
<v Speaker 1>very first thing he would ask is as a production designer,
<v Speaker 1>was is it you're going to shoot it in color?
<v Speaker 1>Black and white? Because if it's in color, you've got
<v Speaker 1>a color scheme that you're going to use. If it's
<v Speaker 1>black and white, you choose all the colors for the
<v Speaker 1>graduations of color of grays on the gray scale. So
<v Speaker 1>if they say, well we found out what the real
<v Speaker 1>color was, well that was the key to the gray scale.
<v Speaker 1>It's supposed to be in black and white. So what
<v Speaker 1>you've just done is taken them Onna Lisa and say, well,
<v Speaker 1>we found out that you actually had a big booger
<v Speaker 1>hanging out her nose, and we put it out there
<v Speaker 1>because it's cool, you know, It's yeah. I just despise
<v Speaker 1>that kind of stuff. And so I love I love
<v Speaker 1>those old films. They're just so great, authentic.
<v Speaker 3>You know.
<v Speaker 4>I was talking to d just the other day about
<v Speaker 4>one of your old movies and I hate to keep
<v Speaker 4>you keep.
<v Speaker 3>Going, but.
<v Speaker 1>Shove it. You're getting old.
<v Speaker 4>Take this job and shove It was an early HBO
<v Speaker 4>classic for me that I used to love to watch,
<v Speaker 4>and I watched it the other day and I made
<v Speaker 4>a remark to Dee. I'm like, you know, the amount
<v Speaker 4>of beautiful women that he got to kiss in this
<v Speaker 4>movie was unbelievableber Hershey young.
<v Speaker 1>Oh gorgeous. And I got to work with Art Carney,
<v Speaker 1>who is alleged to me he's the greatest of all time.
<v Speaker 1>He was just amazing And I loved that and and
<v Speaker 1>uh and also I got to work with a character
<v Speaker 1>actor that It was funny because he was just one
<v Speaker 1>of the guys working down in the beer factory. But
<v Speaker 1>I'd go over to him and I try to engage
<v Speaker 1>him in conversation, but he was just kind of like
<v Speaker 1>just you know, it's very kind, very nice guy. But
<v Speaker 1>and he talked a little bit. But that was Royal Dano.
<v Speaker 1>Do you remember Royal Dano. He used to play Lincoln.
<v Speaker 1>He had that face played Lincoln. He was on a
<v Speaker 1>lot of the rifle Man episode. Yeah, he was on Smoke. Oh.
<v Speaker 1>He was wonderful.
<v Speaker 3>Yes.
<v Speaker 1>And his son came up to me at an event.
<v Speaker 1>It was a Surfer's healing event down at the Beach
<v Speaker 1>uh for autistic kids. My friend started and his son
<v Speaker 1>was there and he came up to me and introduced
<v Speaker 1>himself and said, yeah, my dad was an actor and
<v Speaker 1>I think he would work with him, Royal Dane. You know,
<v Speaker 1>I was looting to take this job. Oh my god,
<v Speaker 1>I love Royal dan Oh And he said really and
<v Speaker 1>I said, oh god, yeah, he was one of my favorites.
<v Speaker 1>They said, wow, really, that was so cute. It was
<v Speaker 1>really really neat. But I mean that's uh. I even
<v Speaker 1>got a Barbara Hershey story that I can't tell you.
<v Speaker 2>It was, Oh, if I take off the if I
<v Speaker 2>hit the record the off record button, can you tell
<v Speaker 2>us that?
<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Oh yeah, well I suppose I could if I
<v Speaker 1>if but but yeah, it was she was. She was
<v Speaker 1>really neat. She was really really neat. She was a
<v Speaker 1>wonderful lady and a wonderful actress. Gosh, she's she's really amazing.
<v Speaker 1>But well, tell me when you going to push the
<v Speaker 1>mute or whatever.
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to do it right now, and everybody else
<v Speaker 2>who's watching is gonna be like, I'm sorry, I don't
<v Speaker 2>get to know.
<v Speaker 3>But all right, I hit this.
<v Speaker 4>Thank you for sharing that wonderful, wonderful story.
<v Speaker 1>No, not spread out all over it.
<v Speaker 3>Right right, let's you have our word.
<v Speaker 2>That's great, Okay, I got I got one one last
<v Speaker 2>question for you. Tell us about something that you love
<v Speaker 2>that you feel like maybe flew under the radar a
<v Speaker 2>little bit that you know you've got. I don't realize
<v Speaker 2>we're talking about forty five years of work here, but
<v Speaker 2>or maybe you know, back in your TP days, fifty
<v Speaker 2>years of work here, but something that you just either
<v Speaker 2>you were proud of it, loved doing it, loved the
<v Speaker 2>final product whatever it might have been, that just didn't
<v Speaker 2>see as much light to day as you wanted it to.
<v Speaker 1>Oh gosh, I'm well, airplane is always you know, I mean,
<v Speaker 1>that's just the jewel in the ground kind of a thing.
<v Speaker 1>But also and Angie, I really loved working with Donna
<v Speaker 1>and that was all so much fun. Starman was probably
<v Speaker 1>my number two, I mean, just because of the whole
<v Speaker 1>thing and the way it came about, the way what we did.
<v Speaker 1>We really had to fight for it. We had like
<v Speaker 1>six or seven or more time slots. They kept moving
<v Speaker 1>us around, you know, people were trying to find out
<v Speaker 1>where the heck were we. It was a losing battle.
<v Speaker 1>They actually told Bob Murick, who was a friend of mine.
<v Speaker 1>Bob told me when they were at one of those
<v Speaker 1>big you know that you were going to renew for
<v Speaker 1>next year parties in New York. I think they haven't
<v Speaker 1>And they said, the biggest mistake we made that year
<v Speaker 1>was not renewing Starman. And then by then everyone's gone
<v Speaker 1>and they're off doing other thing, so you can't get
<v Speaker 1>everyone back again. And that was such a special show,
<v Speaker 1>and I'm sorry that if they had picked it up
<v Speaker 1>for one more season and actually gave it a chance
<v Speaker 1>to where we could build the following and people knew
<v Speaker 1>where it was and they actually told me, they said, well,
<v Speaker 1>we promote the show right before you and then figure
<v Speaker 1>they're going to stay on the channel. What about promoting us?
<v Speaker 1>What the hell? It's like, Oh, well, this is what
<v Speaker 1>we do. You know, go to another network if you
<v Speaker 1>don't like it. You know why. I don't know it.
<v Speaker 1>But that was just it was so so special. I
<v Speaker 1>had letters from people. I had letters from a teacher
<v Speaker 1>in New York that said every night when it was on,
<v Speaker 1>she would tell the class, so when you go home
<v Speaker 1>and you all watch that show, and then the next
<v Speaker 1>day they'd come in and they would talk about it
<v Speaker 1>because she said that it was so such a healthy
<v Speaker 1>relationship with the father and son, and she was in
<v Speaker 1>an inner city school where that didn't always happen, and
<v Speaker 1>they used that and she said, I want you to
<v Speaker 1>put that show back on, and I said, well, I
<v Speaker 1>want the show back on too. I don't talk to me,
<v Speaker 1>You've got to talk to the people of the network.
<v Speaker 1>But that was just really, really, really special to me.
<v Speaker 1>Another one that I did that was like you're talking
<v Speaker 1>about under the Radar because it was such a small
<v Speaker 1>little film. John Flynn directed it. It was called on
<v Speaker 1>the one hand, it was called it had so many
<v Speaker 1>different titles. Let me just see real quickly here, no problem.
<v Speaker 2>Robert Hayes is searching his own IMDb history.
<v Speaker 3>I can tell you how many times I've had to
<v Speaker 3>stop the show and win a minute. I got to
<v Speaker 3>look at Robert Hayes as I am.
<v Speaker 1>It was finally called Touched to, which I thought was
<v Speaker 1>like a young boy. It was some sunny day. I
<v Speaker 1>was in a mental institution and there's a girl in
<v Speaker 1>there that was it was like developmental. It was. It
<v Speaker 1>was like not being able to concentrate, not being able
<v Speaker 1>to express yourself, like you just you want to and
<v Speaker 1>you can't figure out why whatever's blocking you, emotional blocks,
<v Speaker 1>and you get so frustrated that you can lash out.
<v Speaker 1>And so they put me in this place. And it
<v Speaker 1>wasn't like I was committed and I could leave, you know,
<v Speaker 1>like any time you can pull me out. She and
<v Speaker 1>I kind of Kathleen Beller was her name, and she
<v Speaker 1>and I, well, we fell in like we were real
<v Speaker 1>good friends cool. I felt like taking care of her,
<v Speaker 1>and she felt like I was, you know, could take
<v Speaker 1>care of her that she you know, and she was
<v Speaker 1>very afraid. And I just left. One night, I left
<v Speaker 1>and we filmed it in Princeton, I think was somewhere
<v Speaker 1>in New Jersey. I left and I go to the
<v Speaker 1>boardwalk in New Jersey. I go out to the boardwalk
<v Speaker 1>and I'm wander around and I wind up getting a
<v Speaker 1>job where they throw the ball and hit the target
<v Speaker 1>at dunks the clown up in the in the thing.
<v Speaker 1>And I got a job as the clown. And the
<v Speaker 1>guy that was working there, he gets you know, he
<v Speaker 1>taught me all the different things. And the problem is
<v Speaker 1>several guys that did this in the past show up
<v Speaker 1>needing some money. Hey Mick, can I have you know?
<v Speaker 1>And they're all disfigured it kind of because there are
<v Speaker 1>guys that don't like to be taunted like that. And
<v Speaker 1>so after work they hunt you down and they beat
<v Speaker 1>the crap out of you and so and that happened
<v Speaker 1>to me, happens to me in the show. But what
<v Speaker 1>happened in the course of that was it was like
<v Speaker 1>a healing thing. It opened it up to me I
<v Speaker 1>could express myself and I could be a wise acre,
<v Speaker 1>and I could do all this. And you come up
<v Speaker 1>with all these taunts, and you come up with them
<v Speaker 1>and you write them down and you memorize them, and
<v Speaker 1>it's like, oh, you know, hey, look at look at
<v Speaker 1>the size of this one. When when you say I'm
<v Speaker 1>gonna I'm gonna be around the house, you're around the
<v Speaker 1>house like you never missed the meal, did you.
<v Speaker 5>You know?
<v Speaker 1>You're months like a golf course, eighteen holes in all green,
<v Speaker 1>you know, these kinds of things, and you see the
<v Speaker 1>guys and then you see those guys that were really
<v Speaker 1>pissed and you focus in on them, and you know
<v Speaker 1>they're gonna be the ones that come and beat me later.
<v Speaker 1>But I go back and I get her and I
<v Speaker 1>bring her back to the little place that I found
<v Speaker 1>that I rant and I'm making enough money to just
<v Speaker 1>be able to rent this tiny little thing, great little
<v Speaker 1>location right on the canal. Kind of a thing. And
<v Speaker 1>it was Working with John Flynn was so incredible for
<v Speaker 1>me because we thought alike, and it was it was
<v Speaker 1>the first time I ever had anyone He said, Okay, well,
<v Speaker 1>I don't like to talk a lot, you know about
<v Speaker 1>all this stuff, and you know, I just wanted to
<v Speaker 1>just get out there and just do it. And I said,
<v Speaker 1>well great, because I don't like to talk about either.
<v Speaker 1>I just liked it, get out and just do it.
<v Speaker 1>And he said, oh good, okay. So we were stuck
<v Speaker 1>in the hallway of that little set of that little
<v Speaker 1>place that we were renting, in the hallway to go upstairs.
<v Speaker 1>It was so tight. The camera was right there at
<v Speaker 1>the halfway point stairwell, he was right next to it,
<v Speaker 1>the camera operator was in there was so tight. We
<v Speaker 1>filmed it and it wasn't right, and I felt it
<v Speaker 1>wasn't right. And then I went back up, said let's
<v Speaker 1>go again, and then he leaned. I said hey, Bob
<v Speaker 1>and leaned out, and then I went down. I said yeah,
<v Speaker 1>and I looked at him and he just went like
<v Speaker 1>he was trying to think of something to tell me.
<v Speaker 1>And I went and he said, and that was it. Whatever.
<v Speaker 1>Nobody would know what we were talking about. But then
<v Speaker 1>I just went up and it just unlocked one little
<v Speaker 1>thing inside of me and I just did it and
<v Speaker 1>it was just right. It felt right to me, and
<v Speaker 1>he just went like that and that was it. We
<v Speaker 1>moved on. So we'd go out and have dinner or
<v Speaker 1>a bunch of us in the crew and everybody, and
<v Speaker 1>you know, we'd have lots of guinness or whatever we're happening.
<v Speaker 1>And he opened up one night after a few drinks.
<v Speaker 1>He said, whenever I'm watching you, he says, I actually
<v Speaker 1>whenever I'm shooting a scene, I don't watch you. I
<v Speaker 1>watch everybody else. And I was thinking, is that a
<v Speaker 1>compliment or is this like he just can't stand And
<v Speaker 1>he said, it's only one other actor that I ever
<v Speaker 1>that I did that with, and that was Robert Duvall,
<v Speaker 1>because he did a film with Robert Duval And he said,
<v Speaker 1>I always know that you guys are going to be
<v Speaker 1>doing everything just right. I'm watching everybody else to figure
<v Speaker 1>wait a minute, we got to do it. And I thought, man,
<v Speaker 1>that's one of the highest compliments I ever had.
<v Speaker 5>Love it.
<v Speaker 1>And that movie some sunny day or Touched or whatever,
<v Speaker 1>it wound up tied up with, you know, the producers
<v Speaker 1>that were getting the money together and asking it from
<v Speaker 1>their parents and their parents' friends and everyone they could,
<v Speaker 1>and so it probably got all tied up anyway. I
<v Speaker 1>don't think it's even available anymore. And I really loved it.
<v Speaker 1>It was just a little tiny independent film that we
<v Speaker 1>did that was just a real to me, a little
<v Speaker 1>gem that I I always wanted to go find it,
<v Speaker 1>see if I could just buy it and I would
<v Speaker 1>have it and I could just Yeah. Yeah, I was
<v Speaker 1>proud of the work. Yeah, I love it.
<v Speaker 3>We'll see if we can track it down. Yeah, that'd
<v Speaker 3>be great.
<v Speaker 4>Okay, the only thing I would really like to hear
<v Speaker 4>about one last thing, and if I can stretch it.
<v Speaker 4>You were Tony Stark, I mean you were iron Man.
<v Speaker 4>Tell me about that experience.
<v Speaker 1>That was really fun. I love doing the voiceover things.
<v Speaker 1>It's a lot of fun. But it's actually it's such
<v Speaker 1>a click it's really hard to get into it. And
<v Speaker 1>there are people that act actors that just do that.
<v Speaker 1>They don't really pursue being on camera. They're not as
<v Speaker 1>comfortable with that. And they're very good. I mean, some
<v Speaker 1>of these guys are just amazing for their voices and
<v Speaker 1>what they can do, and so I really enjoyed that.
<v Speaker 1>I had a lot of fun doing it. Some of
<v Speaker 1>the most fun was when they say, Okay, now we
<v Speaker 1>got a Mexican tug boat captain who wants to do that?
<v Speaker 3>One?
<v Speaker 1>I said, and then you're guy who is you know
<v Speaker 1>is very so that was some of the most fun.
<v Speaker 1>But but who's that my cost John John's last name.
<v Speaker 1>He actually did the voice of iron Man before me,
<v Speaker 1>and it was in it came out on VHS, that's
<v Speaker 1>how old it was, Okay, and he was in Airplane two.
<v Speaker 1>I think it was in the courtroom scene. Yeah, I
<v Speaker 1>think it was in the courtroom scene with Perry Mason
<v Speaker 1>as our chidg. Yeah. And when they asked him and
<v Speaker 1>what's your impression of Ted Strikers And I'm sorry, I
<v Speaker 1>don't do impressions.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's great and you would know him in a second.
<v Speaker 1>He did so many things over the decades and decades
<v Speaker 1>of a career and wonderful, wonderful actor with big, deep
<v Speaker 1>voice kind of like Leslie's, you know, a big, deep,
<v Speaker 1>mellifolous voice like that. But he did. He's the first
<v Speaker 1>one that I know of that did did Iron Man
<v Speaker 1>and it was fun. It was fun. And then doing
<v Speaker 1>that in some of the other Superman or whatever, the
<v Speaker 1>other shows, Spider Man where you had that same universe
<v Speaker 1>of characters in the hull. Yeah, yeah, man, that was fun.
<v Speaker 1>It was a lot of fun.
<v Speaker 4>Well, this has been a wonderful day. Thank you so
<v Speaker 4>much for taking so much time with us.
<v Speaker 3>We're so grateful.
<v Speaker 1>I'm just checking real clothes to see if I did
<v Speaker 1>my ted striker on you, and I think so. I've
<v Speaker 1>seen little x's where the eyes used to be.
<v Speaker 4>No, no way. We're thrilled.
<v Speaker 1>Thank you so much.
<v Speaker 2>Eat it all up, absolutely well, Thank you everybody. This
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<v Speaker 2>wonderful experiences making this movie. Robert, I can't tell you
<v Speaker 2>thank you enough, really appreciate you.
<v Speaker 3>Thank you so much.
<v Speaker 1>It was great fun. This is great. I actually this
<v Speaker 1>has got to be one of my This is the
<v Speaker 1>longest one I think that I've done, and it's got
<v Speaker 1>to be one of my favorites because we just had
<v Speaker 1>so much fun with it, and that's really cool since
<v Speaker 1>it's the name that it is. Yeah, and also the
<v Speaker 1>fact that Julie just popped up that was amazing.
<v Speaker 3>Okay, thank you guys. We will see you guys next week.