Club 520 - Vernon Maxwell on CRAZY battle with Michael Jordan, fight in the stands + Drazen Petrovic
We’re back with Season 2, Episode 91 of Club 520 where the squad interviews NBA legend Vernon Maxwell to talk about all things basketball. Mad Max tells incredible stories of his battles with Michael Jordan and Drazen Petrovic. Plus, Maxwell gives his perspective on what happened when he fought a fan in the stands during a game. Vernon also gives his perspective on the big money in the NBA today with the new TV deals, and what that means for the future of the game. And don't miss why Maxwell has a love, hate relationship with Utah! #Volume #Club
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The volume. 0:00:06.400 --> 0:00:08.960 All right, we're back live from the Listco Resource Well 0:00:09.080 --> 0:00:12.959 Vegas Baby Club five twenty Live on location, special special guests. 0:00:13.039 --> 0:00:15.239 To my left, we're gonna introduce my man's last. To 0:00:15.320 --> 0:00:17.520 my far left, we got my dog Bishop be hearing 0:00:17.520 --> 0:00:18.200 out the praiar Lee. 0:00:18.200 --> 0:00:19.840 How you would nasty, cool and nasty. 0:00:19.920 --> 0:00:21.000 Let's get to it out. 0:00:21.000 --> 0:00:22.000 Think how you feeling? Man? 0:00:22.040 --> 0:00:23.480 You know I'm saying Vegas I took a toll on us, 0:00:23.480 --> 0:00:25.079 but we've been going. We've been trapping out here. This 0:00:25.160 --> 0:00:27.360 is our fifth day. Vegas been good to us. You 0:00:27.360 --> 0:00:31.440 know it's time of slide though. For sure we're talking 0:00:31.800 --> 0:00:33.840 before the show. You in Vegas longer than forty eight hours? 0:00:33.840 --> 0:00:36.800 You living real wicked? Tillout right? 0:00:36.880 --> 0:00:39.200 My dog young Nacho Young t How you were man? 0:00:39.280 --> 0:00:41.080 Man, I'm chilling. Bro. We got an o g in 0:00:41.120 --> 0:00:41.560 a building. 0:00:42.000 --> 0:00:43.880 All right, Bro, we're trying to get him on the show. 0:00:43.920 --> 0:00:44.360 Four minutes. 0:00:44.360 --> 0:00:45.400 That should be a good man. 0:00:45.440 --> 0:00:47.760 We've been about to shoutut to camp help making this happen. 0:00:47.760 --> 0:00:49.360 Shout out to the team and hey, look the Botty 0:00:49.440 --> 0:00:52.279 Door series. It is for real, for real. We all 0:00:52.320 --> 0:00:54.680 been bout the last couple of days for show about 0:00:54.680 --> 0:00:56.520 the door. I don't the rest of my stuff packed, bro, 0:00:56.600 --> 0:01:00.680 I ain't even about for sure, Amember till my left. 0:01:00.720 --> 0:01:03.360 We got an NBA legend. We got my man, a 0:01:03.440 --> 0:01:05.480 pioneer head of his game, but how he played in 0:01:05.520 --> 0:01:07.960 the NBA, the Max That Podcast. We got the O 0:01:08.120 --> 0:01:11.440 g Vernon Maxwell, Big Dog. Appreciate you sliding on this man, Man. 0:01:11.360 --> 0:01:14.440 Appreciate y'all having me. Man. I can't wait to do 0:01:14.520 --> 0:01:17.039 this ship. I've been wondering why you niggas took so 0:01:17.200 --> 0:01:20.280 long to get me on this motherfucker Man, I don't 0:01:20.280 --> 0:01:21.680 know what the fuck y'all been doing. 0:01:22.120 --> 0:01:23.080 What's been the hold up? 0:01:23.080 --> 0:01:30.720 Though? I don't know you niggas Chris's motherfucker. I got them. 0:01:31.560 --> 0:01:35.440 Y'all did damn hundred shows, one hundred of motherfucker one 0:01:35.880 --> 0:01:37.760 I suppost have been in the top five. What the 0:01:37.840 --> 0:01:38.600 fuck are we doing? 0:01:38.680 --> 0:01:40.000 You're kicking off the new season? 0:01:40.080 --> 0:01:43.039 Man? Okay, well a number one? 0:01:43.440 --> 0:01:45.600 My god, show man. 0:01:46.360 --> 0:01:46.600 Listen. 0:01:46.600 --> 0:01:48.120 Maybe we try to get you Indiana, but you be 0:01:48.120 --> 0:01:49.640 treating Indiana like you tall man. 0:01:49.960 --> 0:01:52.160 Well, you know, the motherfuckers a lot of muffle. They 0:01:52.160 --> 0:01:54.080 ain't got a lot of internet, you know, So you 0:01:54.160 --> 0:01:59.080 got to that Utah ship. The motherfuckers. That's a whole 0:01:59.200 --> 0:02:03.840 nother motherfucker people. Their motherfucker's black ass motherfucker here. You 0:02:03.920 --> 0:02:06.880 know we I mean, but if you want me to 0:02:06.880 --> 0:02:09.480 elaborate about them motherfuckers. But like I was talking to 0:02:09.480 --> 0:02:12.280 these guys today, I did a podcast earlier today with 0:02:12.440 --> 0:02:17.160 some guys, they from Utah, and they was like, ask me, Max, damn, man, 0:02:17.160 --> 0:02:20.800 why are you so on you talk? Man? You motherfucker 0:02:20.880 --> 0:02:25.760 y'all so weird. Motherfucker's got four five wives, and ship 0:02:26.200 --> 0:02:30.480 Mormon asked, who do that? I wish I could. I'm 0:02:30.520 --> 0:02:34.400 a single motherfucker. I wish I have motherfucker four women 0:02:35.400 --> 0:02:39.399 in the one house at one time. Mitch, that's your 0:02:39.560 --> 0:02:42.960 day is Monday, and BET's your day is Tuesday. And 0:02:43.080 --> 0:02:46.239 that's your day is Wednesday, and Bess your day is Thursday. 0:02:46.560 --> 0:02:56.400 So I want to do that. Yes, your damn, I 0:02:56.440 --> 0:03:00.600 ain't got nobody. Don't nobody want my so because I 0:03:00.600 --> 0:03:03.840 ain't worth to be warned. I want to be out there. 0:03:04.240 --> 0:03:05.800 That's where I want to live. I'm getting ready to 0:03:05.800 --> 0:03:11.720 move out there. Hey, you're gonna have boy. You know, 0:03:11.800 --> 0:03:13.840 I keep telling you, motherfucker, it's different out there. 0:03:13.840 --> 0:03:14.040 You know. 0:03:14.080 --> 0:03:17.840 The mountains. Jeff, No, you're flying the goddamn you talk. 0:03:18.120 --> 0:03:20.800 You flying too a little hole. It's a little hole 0:03:20.840 --> 0:03:23.239 in that motherfucker. That's where Carl Malone should drive that 0:03:23.320 --> 0:03:25.639 motherfucker eighteen wheeler in the games. And I said, damn, 0:03:25.639 --> 0:03:29.359 what taka pulling up an eighteen hat a fucking basketball game? 0:03:29.440 --> 0:03:30.240 What makes sense? Now? 0:03:31.160 --> 0:03:31.960 Carl got a word. 0:03:32.000 --> 0:03:37.800 Case was around, Well, Car, I love you boy, I 0:03:37.840 --> 0:03:39.360 love your car. I ain't got nothing to do with 0:03:39.400 --> 0:03:42.520 that ship that just said we had the same age. 0:03:42.680 --> 0:03:47.720 I fuck with you. Remember Max didn't say that ship hey. 0:03:48.640 --> 0:03:50.680 But no, Carl, you pulled up in there with that 0:03:50.760 --> 0:03:53.119 big ass eighteen wheeler one time. I was like, man, 0:03:53.120 --> 0:03:55.480 this nigga dorove the cab. He had the back of 0:03:55.520 --> 0:03:58.520 the fucking truck and the and the cab on the front. 0:03:58.800 --> 0:04:02.520 He pulled a whole team willerd in the goddamn down 0:04:02.600 --> 0:04:04.320 there with a bus. Well, I was like, man, who 0:04:04.360 --> 0:04:06.960 fucking got an eighteen willer? They said, the motherfucker When 0:04:06.960 --> 0:04:10.480 I got the bus, motherfucker said, that's Carl Loan's goddamn 0:04:11.000 --> 0:04:13.400 say this nigga's loading cowsand what the. 0:04:14.920 --> 0:04:15.119 Man? 0:04:15.200 --> 0:04:17.520 I don't know, man, It's just weird. That's my mind. 0:04:17.560 --> 0:04:19.279 That's why I say all the time. All my boys 0:04:19.279 --> 0:04:23.680 they know Cam Junior. All my people's know, I ain't 0:04:23.720 --> 0:04:27.039 got nobody, don't want nobody. I just want to hang 0:04:27.160 --> 0:04:32.359 something in somebody crazy. But we got to talk about it. 0:04:32.400 --> 0:04:32.560 Man. 0:04:32.560 --> 0:04:34.559 Obviously, you know how polarized you are off the court, 0:04:34.839 --> 0:04:36.720 but you are a pioneer your game back in the day. 0:04:36.760 --> 0:04:39.320 Now you see everybody coming in and don't nobody shoot 0:04:39.360 --> 0:04:41.480 nothing but threes. But like that was how you hung 0:04:41.520 --> 0:04:44.159 your hat early on audio defense housing. Now to see 0:04:44.160 --> 0:04:46.240 the game transition to where everybody got to shoot that 0:04:46.320 --> 0:04:47.600 and you was a special that because I know a 0:04:47.600 --> 0:04:48.880 couple of years in a row you was like you 0:04:48.960 --> 0:04:50.400 led the league and made threes. 0:04:50.720 --> 0:04:53.719 Oh boy, that's a great question. Oh man, yeah, man, 0:04:53.800 --> 0:04:56.640 Now shit, I'll be a three hundred million dollar motherfucker 0:04:56.720 --> 0:05:00.520 like these young boys out here, Tatum and and Brown. 0:05:00.640 --> 0:05:04.200 I'll be one of them motherfuckers. Ship, yeah, because that's 0:05:04.240 --> 0:05:06.440 all that's what the games went to. Now. They want 0:05:06.520 --> 0:05:09.200 motherfuckers to shoot. They want a lot of scoring and 0:05:09.240 --> 0:05:12.400 make it exciting. And they got the big guys out 0:05:12.400 --> 0:05:14.920 there in the way of the goddamn guards shooting threes 0:05:15.040 --> 0:05:18.080 and Ship and all this bullshit. Well it's cool, though, 0:05:18.120 --> 0:05:20.320 I mean, I don't really like the game the way 0:05:20.320 --> 0:05:22.800 the game's being played right now, but I respect the 0:05:22.880 --> 0:05:25.720 game and I respect what these young boys are doing. 0:05:26.120 --> 0:05:28.960 And I was, I really love the money they they're 0:05:29.000 --> 0:05:33.640 fucking getting. God damn, well I couldn't get done that. Damn, 0:05:34.080 --> 0:05:41.200 this ship is fucked up. There's some fun dumb shit, yes, yes, 0:05:41.720 --> 0:05:45.240 I mean for real, man, for real though, I mean, goddamn, man, 0:05:45.279 --> 0:05:49.080 you can aage fucking fourteen points and you got damn 0:05:49.200 --> 0:05:54.360 get eighty million. Man, goddamn man, goddamn nigga, I aage 0:05:54.480 --> 0:06:02.200 eighteen a night. Goddamn damn, I can't damn, Oh my goodness, 0:06:02.520 --> 0:06:05.000 mind just fucking me up. 0:06:05.320 --> 0:06:08.880 But they're amazing how the game grown up from like 0:06:08.880 --> 0:06:10.719 like even from when I played, like to see the 0:06:10.720 --> 0:06:12.600 money going up even more. Like we had a moment 0:06:12.640 --> 0:06:14.559 the other day. I was talking about Max Christy getting 0:06:14.560 --> 0:06:17.479 eight million, and at a time when I got like that, 0:06:17.560 --> 0:06:19.520 it was like, damn, eight million was good, But now 0:06:19.560 --> 0:06:22.120 like eight million is like the bottom. 0:06:22.760 --> 0:06:25.279 That's that's like the bottom of the total. But to 0:06:25.279 --> 0:06:28.640 see it grow, yeah, well, you know, the these TV 0:06:28.720 --> 0:06:32.080 deals that's where the money come at. Now they got 0:06:32.120 --> 0:06:36.120 to pay these motherfuckers from the TV deals, so I mean, 0:06:36.200 --> 0:06:38.600 and they get a bigger deal getting ready to come down. 0:06:38.720 --> 0:06:42.360 So served find to get absurd. So I mean, I mean, 0:06:42.400 --> 0:06:44.839 the TV deals is crazy, man, So that's why they're 0:06:44.839 --> 0:06:47.200 getting these guys, these young guys getting this money. But 0:06:47.240 --> 0:06:50.360 I ain't mad at him because Doctor J came in 0:06:50.440 --> 0:06:54.159 before me, and and I'm sure Doctor Jay was like, damn, 0:06:54.200 --> 0:06:56.719 how Max was making more of motherfucking money I made, 0:06:57.200 --> 0:06:59.840 you know what I mean, Doctor J. I wasn't my 0:07:00.279 --> 0:07:03.800 Jordan's you know, God, you know I love Michael Jordans, 0:07:03.960 --> 0:07:07.680 but you know what he'd done and competitive and we 0:07:07.880 --> 0:07:11.280 competed against each other. But doctor J was my guy. 0:07:11.680 --> 0:07:14.320 And I'm like saying, damn, Doctor J probably saying the 0:07:14.360 --> 0:07:17.160 same damn thing I'm saying right now about these young guys. 0:07:17.320 --> 0:07:20.920 Damn these young guys. I'll bust these motherfuckers, you know 0:07:20.960 --> 0:07:23.360 what I mean? And what it's the TV deals and 0:07:23.800 --> 0:07:26.880 I get it, and I understand where it's coming from. 0:07:26.920 --> 0:07:29.960 So and I'm I'm happy for it. So, shit, I 0:07:30.000 --> 0:07:32.360 got a son, I got two sons coming up. Shit. 0:07:32.760 --> 0:07:34.520 I hope one of the motherfuckers get some of this 0:07:34.560 --> 0:07:37.480 motherfucker bag or what they call it, a bag of 0:07:37.560 --> 0:07:42.680 bread whatever the they call it, like chicken man. 0:07:42.760 --> 0:07:44.520 And it's crazy, Like you're talking about how he was 0:07:44.560 --> 0:07:47.600 playing games involved, Now what's interesting you talk about TV 0:07:47.640 --> 0:07:49.280 deals and like, I think, I hope it doesn't come 0:07:49.320 --> 0:07:50.600 to an end, but it's kind of what it's looking 0:07:50.640 --> 0:07:53.560 like your teammate Kenny Smith, like, for what they did, 0:07:53.720 --> 0:07:55.520 I think that more people need to pay attention to 0:07:55.560 --> 0:07:57.960 how inside the NBA helped perpetuate that. I know that's 0:07:58.000 --> 0:08:00.240 not the only thing about that, but the wait that 0:08:00.280 --> 0:08:03.040 they covered the game, especially today's my era with social media, 0:08:03.240 --> 0:08:05.000 they helped project a lot of people to have their 0:08:05.040 --> 0:08:07.160 own brands or own rebuttals to do stuff like this. 0:08:07.520 --> 0:08:09.200 How was that to see him go from your teammates 0:08:09.200 --> 0:08:09.960 to see what he's doing. 0:08:10.000 --> 0:08:13.040 Now, well, I already told that motherfucker. You know Kenny 0:08:13.040 --> 0:08:15.360 and my nigga, you know, I love you boy. I 0:08:15.400 --> 0:08:17.040 told him, I said that's what he was going to 0:08:17.080 --> 0:08:20.320 be a commentator, because you know, Kenny speaks so fluid 0:08:20.320 --> 0:08:23.640 and so well, you know, he's so educated and shit, 0:08:23.760 --> 0:08:26.080 you know what I mean. But I told him, nigga, 0:08:26.240 --> 0:08:30.480 us a decent I'm sorry, Kenny was a great faultfler. 0:08:32.679 --> 0:08:35.080 I have to take that to this motherfucker because I 0:08:35.120 --> 0:08:37.720 know he's gonna see this shit. But yeah, but Ken 0:08:37.840 --> 0:08:39.760 was a great ballplayer. But you know what I mean. 0:08:39.840 --> 0:08:42.560 But I always said to Kenny, I knew he was 0:08:42.600 --> 0:08:46.400 going to be an announcer or some former fashion doing 0:08:46.440 --> 0:08:50.560 that shit. What he's doing with TNT, I mean it's 0:08:50.920 --> 0:08:53.520 I mean, it's great. I mean I'd love to see 0:08:53.600 --> 0:08:55.840 Kenny up there because you know, he always brings my 0:08:55.920 --> 0:08:59.600 ass up and a lot of conversations always and I'll 0:08:59.640 --> 0:09:01.600 be like, God, Damn, Kenny, why you put me in 0:09:01.600 --> 0:09:03.800 this ship. I'm over here smoking this guy Damn Blunt 0:09:04.280 --> 0:09:06.959 over here getting high and you got me and this ship. Man, 0:09:07.040 --> 0:09:09.840 I'm just watching you, nigga what we're talking about? Kidding? 0:09:10.360 --> 0:09:12.400 But I mean so, but I love what Kenny's doing. 0:09:12.480 --> 0:09:15.640 That's my guy, you know. Can I love his family. 0:09:15.679 --> 0:09:19.080 I know it, I know it. Kenny knew my family. 0:09:19.760 --> 0:09:23.040 I knew his family. I mean we live next door 0:09:23.080 --> 0:09:25.160 to each other. It was like next door neighbors, Me 0:09:25.200 --> 0:09:28.800 and this motherfucker. I mean this is weird. And I 0:09:28.840 --> 0:09:30.840 mean so, I mean that's my guy. I love him 0:09:30.840 --> 0:09:33.720 to death. And kudos to my nigga. You know, he 0:09:33.840 --> 0:09:35.000 know I love him so much. 0:09:35.040 --> 0:09:37.920 So yeah, it's always waiting to see Kenny like how 0:09:37.960 --> 0:09:40.800 he like run now with like his knees held us 0:09:40.800 --> 0:09:41.560 ever to play knocking. 0:09:41.960 --> 0:09:44.199 No, No, that shit got worse when he got older. 0:09:44.880 --> 0:09:51.080 That got worse because that nigga wasn't running like that. 0:09:51.080 --> 0:09:55.760 That nigga the jet. Remember they called that nigga the jet. 0:09:55.840 --> 0:10:02.920 That's what nigga, not that nigga clocking knees and the 0:10:03.280 --> 0:10:07.720 company be running up that month and he'd be making 0:10:07.760 --> 0:10:11.679 sure y'all niggas don't get ready to beat me up. 0:10:11.880 --> 0:10:15.800 Hold on, now, you know I'm meeting. I'm just that 0:10:15.840 --> 0:10:18.160 mother be ready because them knigs getting ready to hit 0:10:18.200 --> 0:10:23.079 up again. Let me stop talking about Kenny. Come on 0:10:23.120 --> 0:10:24.080 my show. I love you. 0:10:24.480 --> 0:10:24.760 Come on. 0:10:26.760 --> 0:10:29.079 All right. I'm just hey boy, you know we do 0:10:29.360 --> 0:10:31.240 we Hey, you know what this is. 0:10:33.720 --> 0:10:35.600 Listen, man, I gotta ask you about this. We from that. 0:10:35.679 --> 0:10:38.040 You know what I'm saying. Pioneers Indian paces. You know 0:10:38.040 --> 0:10:39.839 what I'm saying. What they did at the palace, But 0:10:40.000 --> 0:10:41.199 it was a og and that you was one of 0:10:41.240 --> 0:10:42.720 the first people to get active in the stead. 0:10:42.760 --> 0:10:47.559 I gotta ask you who was worse than the Portland fild. Well, well, 0:10:47.640 --> 0:10:50.320 I'm gonna put Portland because the motherfucker was talking about 0:10:50.320 --> 0:10:52.640 my motherfucker still born daughter. You know what I mean? 0:10:52.880 --> 0:10:55.480 That was a problem. You know, I ain't. I mean, 0:10:56.040 --> 0:10:58.640 I kept telling them security God, I was like yo, 0:10:59.280 --> 0:11:02.000 I telling my I was like, yo, do you hear 0:11:02.040 --> 0:11:05.040 what this motherfucking white boy saying by my goddamn people? 0:11:05.800 --> 0:11:09.480 And I said, and I well, true enough. I probably 0:11:09.520 --> 0:11:12.400 shouldn't have brought my ass back that early, but I 0:11:12.440 --> 0:11:15.280 felt like that was my sanctuary where I can go 0:11:15.320 --> 0:11:19.880 and release and not think about my still born daughter 0:11:20.520 --> 0:11:23.439 and shit like that. And the white boy and Nike 0:11:24.440 --> 0:11:27.960 we all broadcasted and they put like, you know, Vernon 0:11:28.400 --> 0:11:31.640 Maxwell Amber, they put her name on my shoes and 0:11:31.679 --> 0:11:36.959 shit all that bullshit. And the white boy behind me 0:11:37.200 --> 0:11:40.760 was talking crazy like fuck that bitch, fucked that whore. 0:11:41.880 --> 0:11:46.559 And I was like telling them, security guy, sit behind 0:11:46.559 --> 0:11:48.240 the bench. I was like, man, you better go straighten 0:11:48.280 --> 0:11:52.880 this motherfucker up. So security guy tell me Max, I 0:11:52.920 --> 0:11:55.680 can't do that. Man, he pays money. It's a not 0:11:55.800 --> 0:11:59.560 alone as a nigga. Nigga sitting behind me talking about, Man, 0:11:59.600 --> 0:12:01.720 I can't do that. Man. He pays, he pays his 0:12:01.760 --> 0:12:04.440 money for that ticket. I say what I said, Okay, 0:12:04.520 --> 0:12:06.200 I said, Man, do you hear what this man saying 0:12:06.200 --> 0:12:09.000 to me? So he was like, I can't do nothing, Max. 0:12:09.040 --> 0:12:12.520 So and then Kenny was sitting aside me, and I 0:12:12.559 --> 0:12:16.040 think Tim Brow was another guy that you know, my guy, 0:12:16.160 --> 0:12:21.880 Tim Bro was up. You shot that boy ship, uh 0:12:22.080 --> 0:12:24.640 but uh, he was sitting aside me. He was trying 0:12:24.640 --> 0:12:27.560 to tell me, Mack, come on, man, chill now, chill, 0:12:27.640 --> 0:12:30.840 don't don't do it. Don't do it. But I'm telling man, 0:12:31.480 --> 0:12:34.439 fuck you, motherfucking white boy. I'm telling him like this here, 0:12:34.440 --> 0:12:37.280 I'm cussing and fussing and ship. And then so I 0:12:37.320 --> 0:12:39.360 got fed up with it. I got tired. I kept 0:12:39.360 --> 0:12:42.679 telling this nigga. So I got up. And when I 0:12:42.720 --> 0:12:46.199 got up, and the nigga was like, oh he stood up, 0:12:46.880 --> 0:12:49.480 and the nigga, I was like, get your bitch ass. 0:12:49.840 --> 0:12:52.080 I shoved that nigga about over there till that god 0:12:52.160 --> 0:12:57.080 damn whiskey ball across that bar. I slung that mother 0:12:57.160 --> 0:12:58.880 across the bar. I went up there and you see, 0:12:59.520 --> 0:13:05.120 y'all see it. I walked like patiently. I walked patiently. Terminator. 0:13:05.320 --> 0:13:11.520 Oh lord, I just bam bam bam, and I slapped 0:13:11.559 --> 0:13:18.200 the ship out of it. Wasn't worth the money, the money, 0:13:18.200 --> 0:13:21.200 the mother. I ain't no, goddamn, I say, damn. They 0:13:21.200 --> 0:13:23.240 told me how much I'll make it, god damn. And 0:13:23.640 --> 0:13:27.240 ten days and it took five hundred from old nigga 0:13:28.280 --> 0:13:31.880 and ten games. I was like, goddamn, I ain't won't 0:13:32.040 --> 0:13:38.000 do it like that, mother, Goddamn. I should have. 0:13:38.640 --> 0:13:40.320 I should have tried to get that out. 0:13:40.160 --> 0:13:43.320 Of the game. It was, it was. It was a 0:13:43.360 --> 0:13:45.880 bad it was, but and then and then and then 0:13:46.280 --> 0:13:49.520 that that was fucked up. And then the rockets fucked 0:13:49.520 --> 0:13:52.920 over me too, and they bought Clyde in and they 0:13:52.960 --> 0:13:56.840 didn't even through my whole suspension, the whole ten games. 0:13:57.240 --> 0:14:00.480 The motherfuckers never did call me. No I did never 0:14:00.559 --> 0:14:03.120 called me and checked on me and said, barn you're 0:14:03.160 --> 0:14:06.679 working out, you good, your mental stages all right, nigga, 0:14:06.720 --> 0:14:09.600 cause we know you mental health, nigga. You know you 0:14:09.760 --> 0:14:12.960 all right, you know so. But nobody never knowing, none 0:14:12.960 --> 0:14:17.360 of my teammates, nobody never there on me, nobody. I 0:14:17.400 --> 0:14:18.960 was just out on the golf course, just hit my 0:14:19.000 --> 0:14:21.520 golf ball and ship. Nobody never called me. Then they 0:14:21.560 --> 0:14:24.520 bought Clyde in on me without saying anything to me. 0:14:24.600 --> 0:14:27.920 After I had bought two championships, I mean one champion 0:14:27.960 --> 0:14:30.960 of first championship, and that motherfucker when they would never 0:14:31.080 --> 0:14:35.080 won without me, because goddamn in game three, god damn it, 0:14:35.080 --> 0:14:38.000 when we went out the uh Phoenix ship, we was 0:14:38.040 --> 0:14:42.520 down two ship and goddamn if Max don't go out 0:14:42.560 --> 0:14:45.120 there and do what I did. I had third in 0:14:45.160 --> 0:14:48.680 the second half. Damn will I turned that whole motherfucker 0:14:48.680 --> 0:14:51.400 serious around for f H town, you know what I mean, 0:14:51.680 --> 0:14:53.960 And we won that. God damn. I told Dream, come on, 0:14:54.040 --> 0:14:58.600 baby boy, this is my night to night. Take come on. 0:14:58.720 --> 0:15:03.240 Now you're the guy, but it's mass Max night tonight. Jeff. 0:15:03.280 --> 0:15:06.440 You know what it's like cooking. I got the cooking 0:15:07.480 --> 0:15:09.280 that in the second half. I had two. At the half, 0:15:09.440 --> 0:15:12.240 I was on some drunk ship I was. I was 0:15:12.320 --> 0:15:14.640 in the club with the white business out there finished. 0:15:14.640 --> 0:15:22.240 You know how I did, Jeff? You know somebody that 0:15:22.400 --> 0:15:24.520 party with the white miss nights for the game. Because 0:15:24.520 --> 0:15:27.880 I ain't worried about damn moll the fu damn I'm 0:15:27.920 --> 0:15:30.560 ready bust my glass. I got a white ball me 0:15:30.920 --> 0:15:34.320 and no white boy never got me. So I'm getting ready, like, 0:15:34.800 --> 0:15:38.160 ain't no white boy done. Man, fuck that ship. So 0:15:38.560 --> 0:15:42.160 I went. I turned the fucking seriously and then ship 0:15:42.320 --> 0:15:47.920 we won the first championship ever in Houston history, no baseball, 0:15:48.800 --> 0:15:51.960 football or nothing. That was the first championship. And I 0:15:51.960 --> 0:15:57.400 think I was a big I did that Ship. He 0:15:57.680 --> 0:16:02.280 was Shore you was they wanted not happen without game three. 0:16:02.840 --> 0:16:05.400 We come and went down O three to the motherfuckers 0:16:05.440 --> 0:16:08.920 Charles Marklay and the motherfucker's kJ and the motherfuckers and 0:16:09.760 --> 0:16:14.840 yeah and yeah, man, so fuck that. So yeah, Mad Max, 0:16:15.120 --> 0:16:17.720 how you get the name mad mat shop? The white folks, 0:16:17.760 --> 0:16:20.240 you know how they do they change your name, you know, 0:16:20.400 --> 0:16:23.480 like slaves and ship like you know how the white 0:16:23.480 --> 0:16:27.600 folk do you know, like the cool Kent that motherfucker 0:16:27.720 --> 0:16:34.080 name one cool motherfucker. His name was like Vernon. They 0:16:34.160 --> 0:16:37.160 changed that motherfucker name is cool, you know what I mean? 0:16:37.600 --> 0:16:40.080 Because he kept running, you know what I mean? So, 0:16:40.400 --> 0:16:42.560 but that's what they did to me though. That The 0:16:42.640 --> 0:16:45.680 vote of the story is that the white folks. You know, 0:16:45.800 --> 0:16:54.600 I was out there, I was wilding I was wild, motherfucker, 0:16:55.200 --> 0:16:57.800 so wild, like a motherfucker out there. So the white 0:16:57.800 --> 0:17:00.400 folks changed my name. I'm gonna call him. She said, 0:17:00.440 --> 0:17:03.760 Damn Vernon. She said, baby, my mom come and said, baby, 0:17:03.760 --> 0:17:05.320 I don't even I don't know who the fuck you 0:17:05.480 --> 0:17:07.399 is right now. And I was like, Mom, what are 0:17:07.440 --> 0:17:09.520 you talking about? She said, why do they call you 0:17:09.600 --> 0:17:14.480 Mad Max? I say Damn? I said, Mom, probably Ship 0:17:14.560 --> 0:17:18.440 I be doing. And she was like, babe, you need 0:17:18.440 --> 0:17:20.359 to chill, baby, I don't know you like this? What 0:17:20.359 --> 0:17:23.879 what what's going on? So the white folks changed my 0:17:24.040 --> 0:17:27.240 name from Vernon. Then they started calling me mad Max 0:17:27.760 --> 0:17:30.840 and so so I told my mom, I said, Ship, 0:17:31.560 --> 0:17:35.600 that's the reason why the motherfuckers changed my name. They 0:17:35.640 --> 0:17:38.879 ain't call nobody. Don't call me nobody never. That's a 0:17:39.000 --> 0:17:45.440 weird ass name, really, Vernon. Who fucking named Vernon? Who 0:17:45.600 --> 0:17:49.480 fucking named Vernon? Vernon Mack. There's a lot of god 0:17:49.560 --> 0:17:53.760 damn cams. There's a lot of motherfucking juniors who fucking 0:17:53.840 --> 0:17:57.320 named Vernon? You know, no fucking body. I was like, Mom, what. 0:17:57.359 --> 0:18:00.800 Ain't too many names? You made a stayed before it. 0:18:01.800 --> 0:18:04.400 So the motherfuckers changed my name from Burning to math 0:18:04.520 --> 0:18:09.000 Max because all the antics and ship is a dope name. Though. 0:18:10.640 --> 0:18:12.280 Yeah, I thought you got that, you know in the 0:18:12.320 --> 0:18:15.120 neighborhood or you know, runker somewhere wherever you played. 0:18:15.400 --> 0:18:17.359 I wish I could have got paid for that ship. 0:18:18.280 --> 0:18:20.000 Look I got I lost a lot of money with 0:18:20.040 --> 0:18:27.320 that motherfucker name Nigga. That ship went backwards. It was 0:18:27.320 --> 0:18:29.920 swimming up the stream. It was like a salmon nigger. 0:18:31.200 --> 0:18:34.440 God damn, I was fucking up nigga jigger ship funk 0:18:34.560 --> 0:18:36.280 that I bought it in that bullshit. 0:18:38.720 --> 0:18:40.479 Let's go back to the whole ship though. Man, how 0:18:40.520 --> 0:18:41.879 did you end up at Florida? 0:18:42.320 --> 0:18:45.560 Oh? Man? Yeah, well, I was gonna go to uh 0:18:46.280 --> 0:18:49.080 uh North Carolina State had just won the national championship 0:18:49.160 --> 0:18:53.320 eighty three, you know, yeah, sending low Yep my guys, yep, 0:18:54.640 --> 0:18:58.439 Lorenzo Charles and all them girls, thorough Bailey, all those guys. 0:18:58.480 --> 0:19:01.760 I went up to visit them, and ship, man, they 0:19:02.080 --> 0:19:04.800 flew they playing down the games. I'm from Gainesville, Florida. 0:19:04.800 --> 0:19:07.000 I'm a coutry for like I said, I'm a country ass, 0:19:07.000 --> 0:19:10.919 bunking ass nigga. I had never ever been nowhere, and 0:19:10.960 --> 0:19:13.240 the motherfuckers flew their playing down there to get me 0:19:13.280 --> 0:19:15.239 some games, and my mom told me for I went 0:19:15.320 --> 0:19:17.720 up to say, nigga, my mom talked to me like 0:19:17.800 --> 0:19:23.360 she was like my daddy. She said, she's I really 0:19:23.440 --> 0:19:25.359 don't know my dad, so I don't have a dad, 0:19:25.520 --> 0:19:29.400 so she was like my dad. So she was like, hey, nigga, 0:19:29.480 --> 0:19:31.480 let me tell you something. You better not sign a 0:19:31.520 --> 0:19:35.040 motherfucking piece of paper. I said, because you know, we 0:19:35.119 --> 0:19:38.200 had Florida University of Florida. I'm in the backyard of 0:19:38.200 --> 0:19:40.640 the University of Florida. I live a mile away from 0:19:40.640 --> 0:19:43.680 the University of Florida. So she know, these white folks 0:19:43.760 --> 0:19:46.920 already told niggas, we're getting ready to pay you. So nigga, 0:19:46.920 --> 0:19:49.960 don't you fuck my money up. My mom said, nigga, 0:19:50.000 --> 0:19:57.680 don't go fuck my money up, nigga. So, yeah, il 0:19:57.920 --> 0:20:01.240 being ship. But they getting paid good money now. But 0:20:01.840 --> 0:20:05.199 my n l my ship was like two hundred and 0:20:05.240 --> 0:20:08.359 I was back in the early eighties, you know what 0:20:08.400 --> 0:20:11.760 I mean. So that was a big good one. I 0:20:11.840 --> 0:20:14.800 moved my mom out the fucking hood to a little 0:20:15.320 --> 0:20:17.160 men lever asked a fucking place. 0:20:17.240 --> 0:20:17.399 You know. 0:20:17.520 --> 0:20:19.639 She ain't wasn't in the project. She had a house 0:20:20.240 --> 0:20:22.280 you know what I mean. So I was able to 0:20:22.320 --> 0:20:24.720 do that ship and uh, but the University of Florida, 0:20:24.760 --> 0:20:27.280 it was a blessing for me, man, because I knew 0:20:27.320 --> 0:20:33.240 all the dope spots was and ship. I knew all 0:20:33.280 --> 0:20:36.000 the dope spots was, you know, because I mean, I mean, 0:20:36.040 --> 0:20:38.280 I'm a realize nigga. Man, I'm gonna tell you that, y'all. 0:20:38.320 --> 0:20:39.879 Y'all got me on the small pot. I'm gonna tell 0:20:39.920 --> 0:20:43.280 y'all the real man. I was on cocaine in college 0:20:43.320 --> 0:20:47.320 and ship, and I was on marijuana. I smoked marijuana 0:20:47.400 --> 0:20:51.800 still today. But and I was an alcoholic too. So 0:20:52.520 --> 0:20:56.440 in college I did all three of those fucking those 0:20:56.560 --> 0:20:58.840 drugs to me. So I did all three of those 0:20:58.880 --> 0:21:01.360 and that and for me to take it coming out 0:21:01.359 --> 0:21:04.760 of there, I mean it was dangerous for me to 0:21:04.800 --> 0:21:10.000 stay it in Gainesville. But I knew I couldn't leave Gainesville. 0:21:10.080 --> 0:21:12.800 It was it was like a double edged sword, like 0:21:12.920 --> 0:21:17.159 I couldn't leave, and I needed to leave, you know, 0:21:17.240 --> 0:21:19.679 I needed to lead to get away from that, you 0:21:19.720 --> 0:21:22.080 know what I mean. But I've decided to stay in 0:21:22.160 --> 0:21:24.600 that ship and that infested the ass pond. Like I 0:21:24.720 --> 0:21:29.560 keep saying, Yeah, Gainesville Florida, and and I got caught 0:21:29.640 --> 0:21:32.720 up and I went to Florida. All time leaders scored 0:21:32.720 --> 0:21:36.280 at the University of Florid today talking motherfuckers don't stay 0:21:36.280 --> 0:21:40.320 in school long enough to do what I did. You know, Yes, 0:21:40.720 --> 0:21:43.840 first back in the day when I came, when I 0:21:43.920 --> 0:21:47.320 came out, you know your ass do four years, you know, 0:21:47.400 --> 0:21:50.800 and that shit wasn't heard of one and done that. 0:21:50.400 --> 0:21:53.240 It was like two motherfuckers. I saw that. I mean, 0:21:53.520 --> 0:21:56.600 like Darryl Dawkins and these other motherfuckers had done that. 0:21:56.680 --> 0:21:59.800 I mean, so we never really heard about one and 0:22:00.080 --> 0:22:03.120 uns like going to costs for one year and and 0:22:03.280 --> 0:22:07.520 then I mean get a bag. So I did four years. 0:22:07.560 --> 0:22:09.560 That's how I became the all time leading scorer at 0:22:09.600 --> 0:22:11.879 the University of Florida, you know what I mean. I 0:22:11.920 --> 0:22:14.760 got twenty eight sixty, you know, and the second time, 0:22:14.800 --> 0:22:17.920 my all time leading scored in SEC history behind Pistol 0:22:17.920 --> 0:22:22.040 p yeah still today. So but yeah, well it was 0:22:22.160 --> 0:22:24.240 I mean I had to I had to stay there 0:22:24.240 --> 0:22:26.800 because I had never been nowhere. I went. They flew me, 0:22:26.840 --> 0:22:30.000 they brought that goddamn plane down that goddamn Gainesville and 0:22:30.040 --> 0:22:34.920 they flew me over to Raleigh, North Carolina. Man, that's 0:22:34.960 --> 0:22:37.880 the longest fucking flight I ever heard. That shit wasn't 0:22:37.880 --> 0:22:40.560 done for an hour. And my ass had never been 0:22:40.560 --> 0:22:43.160 on a plane or nothing. That ship was the longest 0:22:43.200 --> 0:22:46.760 fucking flight. I said, Oh shit, these white folks say, 0:22:47.320 --> 0:22:49.440 I ain't never been this far away from my house. 0:22:49.560 --> 0:22:50.160 Now I can't. 0:22:50.359 --> 0:22:50.520 Now. 0:22:50.600 --> 0:22:52.760 I was like nervous. So and then I got off 0:22:52.760 --> 0:22:55.920 the plane. They showed me Valvana. God bless you, Jimmy, 0:22:56.480 --> 0:23:01.240 Jimmy Valvana. He showed me a great time. And that's 0:23:01.240 --> 0:23:03.280 probably where I should have went to. But I mean 0:23:03.359 --> 0:23:05.359 I still did good. What a way I went to. 0:23:05.480 --> 0:23:08.200 But I'm just saying, but Viole Vanna was a great visit, 0:23:08.280 --> 0:23:10.960 and I mean, man, it was just it was a blessing, man. 0:23:11.080 --> 0:23:14.000 I mean just just staying in Florida. Man. I had 0:23:14.000 --> 0:23:16.320 to stay there, man, because I mean shit, my mom 0:23:16.480 --> 0:23:18.360 was gonna let me leave because I was a mama's boy. 0:23:18.560 --> 0:23:20.600 Yeah, And that's the interest you say that, like you said, 0:23:20.680 --> 0:23:23.760 like double ed shorter situation like me staying changes a 0:23:23.800 --> 0:23:25.760 lot for your family instantly, no matter what happened to 0:23:25.760 --> 0:23:27.560 the rest of it. I know my family good if 0:23:27.560 --> 0:23:29.760 I make this move. But also you probably need a 0:23:29.800 --> 0:23:31.440 little bit of space to cand developing your own, to 0:23:31.440 --> 0:23:32.160 get away from people. 0:23:32.200 --> 0:23:34.479 You have talked about that. You know, your colleg decision. 0:23:34.480 --> 0:23:35.760 You wanted to kind of stay home, but you was 0:23:35.800 --> 0:23:37.520 like that could have been detrimental to being home. 0:23:37.560 --> 0:23:38.240 Too close to home. 0:23:38.359 --> 0:23:39.720 Yeah, if I was too close to home, I would 0:23:39.760 --> 0:23:41.920 have been with the guys, you know what I mean. 0:23:42.040 --> 0:23:43.359 So I don't know if I would have made it 0:23:43.359 --> 0:23:45.679 to the NBA because my focus might not have been 0:23:45.720 --> 0:23:47.560 the same. But getting away from home and going to 0:23:47.600 --> 0:23:50.480 Wake Force, being eight hours away, ain't had no choice 0:23:50.480 --> 0:23:53.280 but to like lock in and focus for sure. 0:23:53.760 --> 0:23:57.760 That's right. Yeah, that's what now was my thing. See, 0:23:59.200 --> 0:24:01.760 I know I could have been a better college player 0:24:01.800 --> 0:24:05.239 if i'd just call. Like I said, Man, I was 0:24:05.240 --> 0:24:10.399 on cocaine in marijuana, and I was an alcoholic man 0:24:10.680 --> 0:24:14.800 and so and I'm still scored twenty eight sixty, you 0:24:14.800 --> 0:24:17.479 know what I mean. And so I don't even know 0:24:17.800 --> 0:24:20.040 half of the days. And shit, I don't remember half 0:24:20.000 --> 0:24:22.200 of the day you sit down to college, you know 0:24:22.240 --> 0:24:24.800 what I mean? Because I was so fucked up, you 0:24:24.840 --> 0:24:27.000 know what I mean a lot of times I go 0:24:27.080 --> 0:24:30.160 to practice, and shit, I just sit there and college 0:24:30.160 --> 0:24:32.200 and shit. I'd be like, shit, fuck that, I ain't 0:24:32.200 --> 0:24:35.600 practicing day. Shit you want me to day or you 0:24:35.600 --> 0:24:39.040 can get me in game day tomorrow. Shit he said, 0:24:39.040 --> 0:24:42.800 I'll get you tomorrow to sit there there, you sit there. 0:24:43.040 --> 0:24:45.160 So that's what I used to do. So, I mean 0:24:45.600 --> 0:24:47.440 I used to be I used to be hung over 0:24:47.600 --> 0:24:50.480 that cocaine because cocaine make a step all night, man, 0:24:50.560 --> 0:24:54.040 and got them cocaine buggets and shit, you be digging 0:24:54.119 --> 0:24:58.240 all day. And I mean just see, it's a lot 0:24:58.280 --> 0:25:01.760 of shit you deal with, man. But I mean, unfortunately, 0:25:01.760 --> 0:25:07.360 I really don't know how I made it because two 0:25:07.400 --> 0:25:10.480 weeks before the drift, we was out there and Combine 0:25:10.520 --> 0:25:14.680 in Orlando working out and ship. You know, we ain't 0:25:14.760 --> 0:25:18.720 have it wasn't cell phones back then. It was like newspaper. 0:25:18.760 --> 0:25:21.880 You get up in the morning and you go out 0:25:21.880 --> 0:25:25.320 there at the Combine where we was at. We open 0:25:25.359 --> 0:25:28.639 the door. We get to USA today. See where you 0:25:28.680 --> 0:25:32.480 read USA today? We read the USA today. And then 0:25:32.520 --> 0:25:34.800 I went to get to the USA today. It was 0:25:35.119 --> 0:25:39.000 like ten days before the drift and I was getting 0:25:39.040 --> 0:25:41.639 I get to the USA today. I pick up the 0:25:41.640 --> 0:25:45.680 goddamn paper. I don't fuck all that damn political ship 0:25:45.840 --> 0:25:48.800 I go straight to the sports and I can flip 0:25:48.960 --> 0:25:51.919 to the sports. I'm looking at my goddamn face on 0:25:51.960 --> 0:25:55.320 the fucking on the fucking you and on the on 0:25:55.400 --> 0:25:58.040 the front of the forest on the sports page. I'm like, 0:25:58.040 --> 0:25:59.480 what the fuck is sad? Would I do? 0:26:00.320 --> 0:26:00.439 So? 0:26:01.359 --> 0:26:08.119 Unfortunately, God bless him, my college coach done leaked out 0:26:08.320 --> 0:26:11.840 that I was. I was supposed to be top ten gord. 0:26:11.880 --> 0:26:14.880 I was supposed to be top ten lottery pick. Yeah. 0:26:15.119 --> 0:26:19.800 But my my college coach, he leaked out that, you know, 0:26:19.920 --> 0:26:22.280 and he said to me, and he told it to 0:26:22.359 --> 0:26:25.840 my mom that if it's up to him, I wasn't 0:26:25.840 --> 0:26:29.320 gonna make it. Yeah, That's that's what he told me. 0:26:29.480 --> 0:26:32.879 When I was a senior. After I told this motherfuckers, 0:26:33.119 --> 0:26:35.200 I was gonna I should have left my junior year. 0:26:35.800 --> 0:26:39.439 But I stayed because my mom was like, get your degree, nigga, 0:26:39.880 --> 0:26:41.840 and you know where you can have something to fall 0:26:41.880 --> 0:26:44.879 back on in case this ship don't work out for you, nigga. 0:26:45.280 --> 0:26:46.880 And so I was like, all right, man, I don't 0:26:46.880 --> 0:26:48.520 really want to do this ship. I don't really want 0:26:48.520 --> 0:26:51.800 to fuck with this boy, this white boy, this coach, 0:26:52.000 --> 0:26:55.560 you know, because we we didn't get along. I mean, 0:26:55.800 --> 0:26:58.600 but he couldn't stop me from being on the floor 0:26:59.000 --> 0:27:03.560 because I'm from Gainesville, Florida, all alumnis, you know what 0:27:03.560 --> 0:27:06.800 I mean. They got my back. They're gonna get rid 0:27:06.800 --> 0:27:09.119 of that coach before they get rid of me, you know, 0:27:09.200 --> 0:27:12.040 because I you know, you flunk three drug tests at 0:27:12.080 --> 0:27:14.720 the University of Florida when I was there, and you 0:27:14.840 --> 0:27:17.520 kicked out the school. Shit. I forunk a fucking hundred 0:27:17.560 --> 0:27:20.480 of them my freshman year, damn, you know what I mean. 0:27:20.680 --> 0:27:23.880 So that's how they put a bandage on this ship 0:27:23.960 --> 0:27:26.320 for me, you know what I mean. So, but I'm 0:27:26.359 --> 0:27:30.600 just saying, man, I mean, it's. 0:27:29.560 --> 0:27:31.920 Just so he booted you into the second round. He's 0:27:31.960 --> 0:27:34.040 the reason why you got I wok around. 0:27:34.080 --> 0:27:38.479 I went from top ten to forty eighth pick, and 0:27:38.880 --> 0:27:42.360 I had to make a fucking team. I got drafted 0:27:42.359 --> 0:27:47.000 by Denver forty eight, supposed to have been sh top ten, 0:27:47.440 --> 0:27:52.440 and they traded me the night that same night when 0:27:52.440 --> 0:27:57.080 I got drafted San Antonio Spurs and yeah, so and 0:27:57.119 --> 0:27:59.480 I went there and I went there. Shit, then I 0:27:59.520 --> 0:28:02.320 went there. I had a nigga way way crazy than me, 0:28:03.000 --> 0:28:06.879 you know. Alvon Robinson a quadruple double nigga. You know 0:28:07.080 --> 0:28:11.280 ten rebound, ten assists, ten steals, you know, ten punts. 0:28:11.359 --> 0:28:14.080 You know, this nigga was crazy. He's I mean, he 0:28:14.200 --> 0:28:18.199 was an all star guy, so I mean, and this 0:28:18.320 --> 0:28:21.960 dude was physical. It's I knew I had to I 0:28:21.960 --> 0:28:24.199 had to get my I had to get myself, you know, 0:28:24.320 --> 0:28:26.560 build my body up because I was, you know, looking 0:28:26.560 --> 0:28:28.520 at me. Shit, I don't went number one hundred and 0:28:28.520 --> 0:28:32.680 eighty two pounds, so I mean, but back then, my 0:28:32.800 --> 0:28:35.159 heavenest weight I ever wore my whole life was one 0:28:35.240 --> 0:28:38.000 hundred and ninety five pounds. When I played in the NBA, 0:28:38.120 --> 0:28:41.080 I said, heavens I ever been. Everybody I played against 0:28:41.120 --> 0:28:45.440 was six six six seven, I mean two hundred and eighteen, 0:28:45.640 --> 0:28:50.680 two hundred and five. I'm one ninety fucking you know. 0:28:50.760 --> 0:28:52.720 I mean, I'm a little ass guy, man. But I 0:28:52.800 --> 0:28:55.280 just my heart took me over through all that shit. Man. 0:28:55.360 --> 0:28:57.760 I mean, I played with heart, and you know, Jeffery 0:28:58.360 --> 0:29:01.720 passion and I don't give a fuck about a nigga 0:29:01.760 --> 0:29:05.320 and another another color jersey. You know, it's cut the 0:29:05.360 --> 0:29:06.640 oat nigga show. 0:29:06.720 --> 0:29:08.640 And I got to ask me to talked about this recently, 0:29:08.640 --> 0:29:11.240 but I just loved the conversation. You know, MJ was 0:29:11.240 --> 0:29:13.800 garden with hard. Excuse me, guarding MJ was pretty hard, 0:29:14.160 --> 0:29:16.200 but that but that that man up there, and you 0:29:16.240 --> 0:29:18.239 know what I'm saying with the nets he was there. 0:29:18.320 --> 0:29:20.160 He was the hardest assignment you had to deal with. 0:29:20.400 --> 0:29:23.840 Who God blessings you're talking about? Boy hoo boy Oh 0:29:24.080 --> 0:29:26.840 Petra Fitch, Boy, God God, I rather got that motherfucker. 0:29:26.880 --> 0:29:30.720 And Michael didn't guard Petrovitch. That motherfucker was something else. 0:29:30.800 --> 0:29:35.360 Man driving Petrovitch, Man, God bless you guy. Man that man. 0:29:35.920 --> 0:29:38.320 I just tell Rudy t treat this motherfucker like you 0:29:38.400 --> 0:29:41.600 treat Mike. You know, we treat it. I just tell him, man, 0:29:41.640 --> 0:29:46.040 don't don't let motherfucker when he come out the game, 0:29:46.120 --> 0:29:48.560 brain my ass out the game, when he come to 0:29:48.640 --> 0:29:51.360 the goddamn table. Meant, let me meet him at the table. 0:29:51.720 --> 0:29:54.120 I don't want nobody guarding this motherfucker because this bis 0:29:54.200 --> 0:29:57.240 can get to get the going real quick, and it's 0:29:57.240 --> 0:30:00.280 gonna be hard to cut this motherfucker water off. I mean, 0:30:00.440 --> 0:30:02.720 I mean, I just be like, man, fuck that Mandy 0:30:02.800 --> 0:30:05.400 man Broody, treat this motherfucker. And then one night he 0:30:05.440 --> 0:30:09.000 didn't do that. Man, I was like, oh my goodness, 0:30:09.280 --> 0:30:14.120 this motherfucker was in Houston. Yes, mother, and this mother 0:30:14.320 --> 0:30:18.720 he him't he talked. He talked that talk with his head. 0:30:20.800 --> 0:30:24.080 They don't say Ship he do this, he gonna do 0:30:24.120 --> 0:30:26.000 it that. I said, all this bitch dunk out fire. 0:30:26.800 --> 0:30:29.000 When the motherfucker in the game, that motherfucker lit one 0:30:29.000 --> 0:30:31.000 of them niggas up. I forget who it was. I 0:30:31.000 --> 0:30:34.880 ain't gonna say nobody names. I love all my teammates, Rock, 0:30:36.240 --> 0:30:39.280 we got you got the motherfucker going though. Whoever he was, 0:30:39.320 --> 0:30:41.840 he got the motherfucker going. And they put me back 0:30:41.880 --> 0:30:44.160 in that motherfer trying to cut off the water. Boy, 0:30:44.160 --> 0:30:47.120 I couldn't do it. But that's the that's the worst 0:30:47.120 --> 0:30:49.720 cover in the world. Drips on petroviitch Man, I'm trying 0:30:49.720 --> 0:30:53.800 to tell y'all, man, y'all just pay homage to this motherfucker. Man. 0:30:54.160 --> 0:30:56.320 This motherfucker was a killer man. You know. 0:30:56.320 --> 0:30:58.760 It's funny they, I mean, maybe not on the same level, 0:30:58.800 --> 0:31:00.480 but they kind of compare him with the same going 0:31:00.520 --> 0:31:01.400 crazy like Luca. 0:31:01.480 --> 0:31:05.840 There was like Luca, diagree, I fucking agree, Luca is 0:31:05.840 --> 0:31:12.040 a fucking killer too. Yeah, I agree, yes, yes, yeah, 0:31:12.160 --> 0:31:16.360 But ship drops and he he he. They used to 0:31:16.440 --> 0:31:18.840 run that motherfucker off three four screens. You have to 0:31:18.920 --> 0:31:21.680 chase this motherfucker. And then when he get that motherfucker, 0:31:21.680 --> 0:31:26.720 he catched that bitch. This way, he squap. This motherfucker 0:31:26.760 --> 0:31:30.400 squalled this way in the air and just bit I 0:31:30.440 --> 0:31:33.520 mean three. This motherfucker is unbelievable. Man, I'm telling you, man, 0:31:33.720 --> 0:31:36.600 if this guy wouldn't have, if we would have kill 0:31:36.680 --> 0:31:39.240 himself on the outer barn, man, this guy would have 0:31:39.320 --> 0:31:42.680 been so special. Man. This guy was a special guy. Man. Man, 0:31:42.760 --> 0:31:44.880 he was, Oh my goodness, I don't I really don't 0:31:44.920 --> 0:31:46.680 like to give that motherfucker out of props, but that 0:31:46.680 --> 0:31:50.800 motherfucker's to fuck me. Come on and Mike and I 0:31:50.880 --> 0:31:53.400 tell everybody that's where you got it from. I know 0:31:53.440 --> 0:31:55.520 you got that ship from. He's a fuck me up. 0:31:55.560 --> 0:31:58.600 I hate guarding that motherfucker, he said. But before I 0:31:58.640 --> 0:32:00.000 got how was it going base? 0:32:00.080 --> 0:32:02.160 I mean, every time we hear about it, it was 0:32:02.240 --> 0:32:03.840 just like Mike was just the morals. 0:32:03.880 --> 0:32:04.240 It kills me. 0:32:04.360 --> 0:32:06.400 I know the competitor in you, you still went at it. 0:32:06.480 --> 0:32:08.040 But how was it dealaler with the goat? 0:32:08.240 --> 0:32:10.160 Well, you asked better get some sleep the night before 0:32:10.960 --> 0:32:14.280 I'm gonna tell you now, that's one motherfucker right there now. 0:32:14.320 --> 0:32:17.520 I used to go lay down and and put my 0:32:17.640 --> 0:32:20.240 elevate my mother fucking feet above my heart. Like my 0:32:20.280 --> 0:32:22.560 mom just say, put your feet abull your heart, baby 0:32:22.560 --> 0:32:31.440 before you play him. It's gonna bring some energy to uncomfortable. 0:32:31.520 --> 0:32:33.200 So I used to left. I do it damn with 0:32:33.280 --> 0:32:37.160 my mamas to say, I said, only motherfucker. I used 0:32:37.200 --> 0:32:40.400 to stay home. My wife used to be glad for 0:32:40.440 --> 0:32:43.480 that when Mike come in town, because I really never 0:32:43.600 --> 0:32:45.880 used to stay home. My wife used to be glad 0:32:45.920 --> 0:32:48.600 when Mike come to this nigga. Look at his ass 0:32:48.640 --> 0:32:51.960 now because Mike and him look at this nigga, he 0:32:52.080 --> 0:32:55.600 gonna lay his ass down now. Yeah, because this motherfucker 0:32:55.640 --> 0:32:58.080 black Jesus man that way, I called him in the 0:32:58.080 --> 0:32:59.440 best player I ever played against. 0:32:59.440 --> 0:32:59.640 Man. 0:32:59.720 --> 0:33:05.320 I mean, I mean, it's no comparison two. I mean, 0:33:05.680 --> 0:33:09.560 I mean, I mean, Lebron Khudos man, you hell of 0:33:09.560 --> 0:33:13.160 a nigga. Man, you got your son damn drafted. That 0:33:13.240 --> 0:33:17.200 ship's weird. I mean, but hey, man, if I could 0:33:17.240 --> 0:33:20.160 do that ship Lebron nigga, I would do it too. 0:33:20.560 --> 0:33:23.440 I fuck that ship, nigga, man, that you keep that 0:33:23.480 --> 0:33:25.800 ship going by what you're doing, you running the damn leave. 0:33:26.480 --> 0:33:28.520 I'm just what we was just talking about. 0:33:28.760 --> 0:33:30.320 I'm talking about Michael Jordan. 0:33:30.400 --> 0:33:35.960 Okay, yeah, I got okay you I had to throw 0:33:36.000 --> 0:33:36.960 that ship in there. 0:33:37.440 --> 0:33:40.280 Ship. I got a son coming next year and the 0:33:40.360 --> 0:33:42.400 car I'm gonna put him in the goddamn come by. 0:33:42.880 --> 0:33:45.440 Yeah it was more than four points, and God damn 0:33:45.600 --> 0:33:48.880 I won't, God damn litten get them a shot this 0:33:48.960 --> 0:33:51.640 ship because ship and see if we could get drafted 0:33:51.720 --> 0:33:56.360 number fifty five ship one of the motherfucking picts in 0:33:56.400 --> 0:34:00.320 the second round. Ship. I'm just saying, man, I swum 0:34:00.520 --> 0:34:07.520 that I mean, but uh, I back to my Mike 0:34:07.720 --> 0:34:10.000 was the best player ever. Man. That motherfucker spunked on 0:34:10.080 --> 0:34:12.440 me one day and we was in Houston. He spunked 0:34:12.480 --> 0:34:16.920 on me. I said, oh Lord, that like he's like disappeared. 0:34:17.360 --> 0:34:20.759 It's like it's like it's like this bitch just disappeared. 0:34:21.040 --> 0:34:23.680 This bitch spunk on me. So this bitch is so gifted, man, 0:34:24.239 --> 0:34:27.640 I never seen nothing. He's so strong, fast, and I 0:34:27.680 --> 0:34:30.560 mean can handle. And I don't think his handle was 0:34:30.600 --> 0:34:33.319 that good. I think his hand was so big that 0:34:33.400 --> 0:34:35.840 he used to lose that ship, and he'll grab that 0:34:35.880 --> 0:34:39.120 bitch with his hands. So got big hands all us. 0:34:39.440 --> 0:34:42.440 He was grown that month for you. And but man, 0:34:42.480 --> 0:34:46.200 that man spend on me and he and he took off, 0:34:46.800 --> 0:34:49.120 and you know that damn jump man on the bottom. 0:34:51.000 --> 0:34:55.239 I was that mother buck was right. And then I 0:34:55.280 --> 0:34:57.920 was like, I laughed at it. I laughed because I 0:34:57.960 --> 0:35:00.600 took off and ran down the court because I knew 0:35:00.600 --> 0:35:02.440 the nigga had done. I knew it in there. I 0:35:02.560 --> 0:35:04.880 know everybody. He was like, oh, ship, they just to 0:35:04.920 --> 0:35:08.400 come see the dunk show before the games. And I knew, 0:35:08.680 --> 0:35:11.320 so I knew. I just took off running and he 0:35:11.320 --> 0:35:14.319 he came back. He came up behind me and the 0:35:14.360 --> 0:35:17.440 nigga hit me on my ass. I said, oh, no, 0:35:17.600 --> 0:35:23.720 bitch as, don't put goddamn hand, don't put your money 0:35:24.080 --> 0:35:28.839 hands on me. My nigga, I bitch, I beat you now. 0:35:28.880 --> 0:35:30.960 I love the game just as nigga. Don't put your 0:35:31.080 --> 0:35:32.520 goddamn hands on me. Nigga. 0:35:33.080 --> 0:35:47.440 So and then that's when y'all see it's just like 0:35:48.200 --> 0:35:49.319 everybody see this part. 0:35:49.400 --> 0:35:51.560 We were back face and face. I was like, man, 0:35:51.640 --> 0:35:54.520 but I don't touch me. Nigga. You're the best nigga 0:35:54.520 --> 0:35:58.480 I ever played against. Nigga. Don't put your hands on me, though, Nigga, Nigga, 0:35:58.520 --> 0:36:02.279 I hate guarding you ask Yeah, Man, that was that 0:36:02.360 --> 0:36:05.120 was That was like that was ship man. That was 0:36:05.160 --> 0:36:08.640 another fucking that's some ship right there, Mike. Man, that 0:36:08.719 --> 0:36:12.680 guy was unbelievable man to be one thousand man. I mean, 0:36:12.800 --> 0:36:15.600 I'm just glad I was able to say ship and 0:36:15.640 --> 0:36:19.759 everybody give me homage, but ship they don't give like motherfucker. 0:36:19.800 --> 0:36:22.359 I was just following that motherfucker down in the lodge. One. 0:36:22.719 --> 0:36:25.240 Logan was the best defensive player on the fucking league 0:36:25.239 --> 0:36:27.839 from fucking back in them days for three four years 0:36:27.840 --> 0:36:30.440 in a row. Defensive Player of the Year, blocking everything. 0:36:30.480 --> 0:36:31.920 You know, he don't give a fuck if he get 0:36:32.000 --> 0:36:34.200 dunked on. He don't give a fucking Mike coming in 0:36:34.400 --> 0:36:37.160 dunk on him, shout out funding his glass on down there, 0:36:37.200 --> 0:36:39.360 don't get that ship and I'll be out there waiting 0:36:39.360 --> 0:36:45.160 on the break. So that's what it is, man, Mike 0:36:45.280 --> 0:36:48.040 is the best ever man. Love you boy, man, Listen, 0:36:48.120 --> 0:36:48.759 this has been great. 0:36:48.840 --> 0:36:49.080 Og. 0:36:49.280 --> 0:36:51.560 We gotta do this again, man, show people they can 0:36:51.640 --> 0:36:53.520 find you at Man. They gotta check out Maxed out 0:36:53.520 --> 0:36:53.839 for Shure. 0:36:53.960 --> 0:36:56.839 Hey man, come and find the Max on the YouTube 0:36:56.880 --> 0:36:59.879 Max Style Podcast. 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