Dropping the ball: Phils lose series opener in Atlanta

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Edmundo Sosa made the catch of his life in the first inning on Tuesday night in Atlanta, but a huge mistake in left-center field involving both Sosa and center fielder Johan Rojas cost the Phillies the game. Ruben coached big league outfielders in Boston and New York. He breaks down everything that went wrong when they let a ball fall just feet in front of them, leading to a three-run homer from Sean Murphy.

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00:00:03
Speaker 1: Hey, this is Bryce Harper and welcome to the Philly Show.

00:00:08
Speaker 2: Welcome to the Philly Show, brought to you by citizens. From making a plan to reaching your goals, make sense of your money with citizens Official Bank of the Phillies. Gentlemen, We got up real early Wednesday morning. It is Wednesday, twenty twenty five. Ruber tomorrow, Junior Jim Salisbury Todds a lucky because we had we just had to talk about last night's game series opener in Atlanta. Phillies lose seven to five, and it was one of the weirdest I would say one of the weirdest games ever that I've seen in Atlanta, because I've seen a lot of really weird losses in Atlanta, a lot of like like five come to mind, you know, oh yeah, yo, yeah, yeah, all sorts of crazy stuff. But the one last night pops it into my head or will be pop stay in my head forever because of what happened in that second had at Mundo Sos in the first inning, of course, makes us unbelievable catch over the left field wall to rob Marcelo Zuna of a home run. I was like, oh my god in the press box and then in the second ending, of course, a lazy fly ball Austin Riley at a left center field at Mundo Sosa Johann Rojas converge, so miscommunication happens, and then the ball literally drops maybe two feet in front of Johann Rojas. He floks up in the air, follows the ball all the way down. The ball bounces into his glove. He's that close to the to the ball leads to a three run rally. Philly's lose the game. Rubin, you've coached the outfield. Tell us what tell us went wrong on that play?

00:01:53
Speaker 3: Pretty much everything, And part of it is because Solsa has not played out there, and much of it is because you didn't have enough aggressiveness out of Rojas. The ball goes up in the air in the left center field, and I think at right when the ball went up, Sosa probably said something.

00:02:10
Speaker 1: I think he called the ball. And then when.

00:02:13
Speaker 2: Reuben real quick, Sosa actually was saying, and this is the one of the parts.

00:02:18
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, this is he said, you take it yours, yours, yours douyo dou yo douyo means yours yours yours. Now, when it first went up, I think he may have said something because Johann Rojas looked at him. Now when they got closer and started to converge, that's when I think Sosa said, douyo, douyo, do you? And that means yours, yours, yours. An outfielder is not supposed to say that. The only time an outfielder is supposed to say anything is.

00:02:43
Speaker 1: That I got it.

00:02:44
Speaker 3: That's meal meal on mine and and that's in Spanish obviously.

00:02:49
Speaker 1: But I got it.

00:02:51
Speaker 3: I got it is pretty universal, and I think you know Sosa knows how to say that. But that said Johann Rojas, I'm sure before the game started, everybody knows this is the first time Sos is out there playing left field. So as a center fielder, you have to know that you're gonna be the most aggressive player out on the field, without question, especially with the big outfield like it is in.

00:03:15
Speaker 1: Atlanta, that the truest park.

00:03:16
Speaker 3: It's no joke out there in left field, so there's a lot of ground to cover, and to me, Johann Rojas has to go and challenge this baseball. He has to make the play and he has to be really aggressive with it, and he sort of just sort of gave up, and I know that there's noise and I know it's difficult, but this ball has to be caught, and there's so much more to unpack because of this. The walk afterwards and then the home run. You just can't walk Jared kell Nick what three times, which they did yesterday. You know, good on him, but the reality of it is that's a player that you just got to throw strikes to. You got to make him swing to the bat. He has not had a lot of success. Then he hangs a making ball ands you know they're down. They're down three to one. It's really unfortunate the way it worked out, sort of sort of a comedy of errors in some sense, but uh, not comedic for for Topper and the rest of the team.

00:04:15
Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree with you, Rojas needs to be more aggressive, But I also think Sosa has got good enough instincts to know that that's the center fielders ball all the way and he's got to peel off because this is you know, you play defense that requires one hundred percent concentration, and if you get a blip of conference concentration, you're.

00:04:30
Speaker 5: Gonna mess something up.

00:04:31
Speaker 4: And I think right at the end he spooked Rojas, and that caused Rojas to pull up.

00:04:35
Speaker 5: So you know, Sosa has got to peel off.

00:04:38
Speaker 4: Rojas has to take charge and go get that ball and put in his back pocket. That that you know, I don't even care if it's your first time out there. There's certain fundamentals that you learn as a young player, and that and that's one of them. That's the centerfielder's ball put in your back pocket. Uh, they cost Wheeler three runs. I know Wheeler didn't exactly stop the bleeding. I didn't think he had a great night, and it costs free ones. Would you guys be in favor of the old I know this has been talking about before, but like a team error, so it doesn't maybe effect Jim.

00:05:10
Speaker 1: Let me just say this.

00:05:12
Speaker 3: You can go ahead, and you can go ahead and opine on that Todd before I ran.

00:05:17
Speaker 2: No, I was gonna say, yeah, that was the the thing I got last night. Immediate feedback was that is so unfair to Zach Wheeler.

00:05:24
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's what I mean that that.

00:05:26
Speaker 2: Was ruled and earned. Those three runs were ruled earned runs. You know, he had that ridiculous streak going of thirteen consecutive starts, six plus innings, two earned runs are fewer, and because of that gaff, that mental lapse by both of them, that streak ended. And at that moment after you give up that home run, it is.

00:05:47
Speaker 1: An absolute error. I don't care. I'm an outfielder. The ball needs to be caught and it doesn't matter whether the ball.

00:05:53
Speaker 3: Hit the glove hit the glove one of those situations where it is it is an error. I mean, if a ball is up in the air and that same sort of thing happens in the infield, that's an error. Someone and then you know, to the shortstop and the second basement are calling the ball, and then someone lunches forward and it drops, that's an error.

00:06:13
Speaker 1: I don't I don't care. In every single instance, it's an error. I don't care. You know, doesn't matter what you're playing, t ball, little league, pee wee, major leagues, minor leagues. That's an error and it should be.

00:06:28
Speaker 3: And that's and and and I don't know what's going on with the scoring in Major league baseball.

00:06:33
Speaker 1: It's pretty putrid as it stands. But that's an error, period.

00:06:37
Speaker 5: Yeah, error means mistake. That was a mistake.

00:06:42
Speaker 4: It's unfortunate to penalize the pitcher right in that situation. I actually I hope they don't back off on the soca and left field thing, because I think this is a great learning teaching moment, learning moment, whatever you want to call it. You know, we talked about all the time failure can be a great teacher. I don't think either one of those guys is gonna make this mistake again, so there might be some long term gain here.

00:07:11
Speaker 1: Well.

00:07:11
Speaker 2: Well, after the game, it was interesting Johann Rojas. Has you typically used an interpreter over the years as he's started to get more and more comfortable using his English. Last night he did his interview all in English. You know, he kind of wanted to say what he wanted to say in English to the English speaking reporters, which we appreciated, and he just basically just kept repeating himself, which was understandable. Just I've got to take charge there, that's my responsibility, that's my fault. I've got to catch that ball. He kept saying that over and over and over. But Rubin, you mentioned the sequence after that Jared Kelnick last night. Going in the last night's game, he had four hits all season, had not walked once, so you know, he walks in that situation then, of course, and then a sweeper backs up on Zach Wheeler gives up the home run to Sean Murphy. And talking to Wheeler after the game, he said he was mad at himself because as a pitcher, as one of the best pitchers in Major League Baseball, he takes pride in those situations, those specific moments and stopping the bleeding, and he felt he did not, I mean, he did not stop the bleeding. So that was kind of gnawing at him more than you know, he's not necessarily walking out of the ballpark last night going frickin' Rojas and Sosa. Man, they cost me my game. He was more upset with the walk to Kelnick and then throwing a you know, a sweeper that backed up to Sean Murphy.

00:08:44
Speaker 4: He he wasn't sharp. I was looking at his numbers and he was pretty much. Everything was down a little bit, and you can extend that right through the bullpen. Everything looked a little down in terms of some of the metrics last night. But uh, that said, they they did, they bailed out Wheeler. They you know, the offense was very resilient. Uh, top of the top of the lineup, top half of the lineup did a really good job getting back that lead.

00:09:16
Speaker 5: And to me, that's one of the disappointing loss.

00:09:18
Speaker 4: It's one of those nights where you go in the clubhouse and you guys are sitting around talking about, you know, we didn't play our best game, but we came out of here with a win.

00:09:26
Speaker 5: Uh.

00:09:26
Speaker 4: And and it didn't happen because they they hurt themselves early.

00:09:30
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was unfortunately, very disappointing win. I mean, I know it's early in the season. That's a that's a win.

00:09:36
Speaker 1: That's it. That should have been should have been a w.

00:09:39
Speaker 3: And I'm sure that they were off at that ballpark not happy with it. But again they talk about it all the time. It's time to flush it and hopefully they can bounce back. And and I.

00:09:49
Speaker 1: Played better baseball. They've got a couple of big.

00:09:52
Speaker 3: Big games coming up, and uh, you know, they just got to bounce back and do their thing. I was really impressed by the had bats by Schwarber and Cassia, really terrific. We we cannot get off this podcast today and not talk about that because he handled what Schober did and what Cassianos did we're just extraordinary.

00:10:12
Speaker 1: We can expound on that some more.

00:10:14
Speaker 4: They are both driving the ball with authority. Castianos is driving the ball to the pull side with the authority. He's turning on pitches, he's recognizing pitches.

00:10:23
Speaker 5: He looks really good.

00:10:25
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00:10:50
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00:10:51
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00:11:29
Speaker 2: We are back, so I want to get into Kyle sh forburn the start that he's on. But first, real quick, Jim, you brought up a point earlier. You hope that this doesn't stop the Phillies from running at Mundo Sosa out there in left field, Phillies, I think they faced a couple lefties over the next week, week and a half.

00:11:47
Speaker 5: Unless you stop, unless you stop hitting.

00:11:49
Speaker 2: Well, that's so that Rob was kind of assass that last night. He says, you know, as long as he keeps hitting, I would feel comfortable putting him out there. So do we do we see him out there? Should he be out there? The next time the Phillies faced a left handed pitcher as a starter, I think maybe it happens this weekend in Saint Louis, or do you have to play Kepler out there? I mean, how does that bouncing act work with?

00:12:14
Speaker 5: You said?

00:12:15
Speaker 2: Kepler and Marsh can play every day against lefties, you know. So so what do you do?

00:12:21
Speaker 5: You go?

00:12:22
Speaker 4: You go with the guy who gives you the best chance to win the ball game. If you like the match up, you go with and you like if Sosa is hitting, you give him a shot going to Saint Louis, his old team.

00:12:33
Speaker 5: I'm sure he'd be quite motivated.

00:12:35
Speaker 4: If you think it's a good matchup and you think he can help you win a game, then I'm going with him. I'm not backing off because he you know, he was part of a mistake in the outfield. I think, like I said, I think it could be a learning experience. I mean showed his athleticism climbing the wall. I mean, that's that play brought me out of my chair last night. Soort the one that dropped in.

00:12:53
Speaker 1: Yeah, they both they both did. It was back to back innings, right almost.

00:12:57
Speaker 3: Yeah, I would think that just the way Rob Thompson works, I think that he's probably gonna give him another shot. So that he feels confident that that Topper believes in him. And I think that's one of the reasons why Sosis had so much successes, because Topper believes in him, and he believes in himself as a player, and I'd like to see him go out there one more time.

00:13:20
Speaker 1: Now.

00:13:20
Speaker 3: If Kepler over the next like three or four games goes nuts, shoot, you might see him in center field. And I think a lot of it depends on whether Marsha's swinging the.

00:13:29
Speaker 1: Bat well, whether Kepler's you know.

00:13:31
Speaker 3: Swinging the bat well, who's you know, who's who's hot, And maybe maybe he plays second base instead if Stott's not swinging the bat well, because Stop didn't that great at Batch yesterday against the left hander, so you may see him play second base again. It's about whether or not he's, as Jim said, gives the team a best the best chance to win the game. And a lot of it also depends on whether they're playing well just as a team. Maybe they have to mix it up, maybe they don't, whatever the case may be. So I think it's a fluid situation.

00:14:03
Speaker 1: But I just knowing Topper, I think he'll get another shot in the outfield and I hope he does because he can be a contributor. We have to remember, everybody gets excited about.

00:14:13
Speaker 3: Mundo Sosa, and I love the guy. He is one of my favorite players on this team, without question that.

00:14:21
Speaker 1: But here's the deal.

00:14:23
Speaker 3: When a guy comes out of spring training, most of the guys like at Mundo Sosa.

00:14:28
Speaker 1: They carry a lot of the at bats. They are most ready.

00:14:32
Speaker 3: They are the most ready players on the team because they've gotten at bats, they've gotten in rhythm. There's a whole slew of things that are going on as far as getting themselves ready and seeing pitches and all that stuff. And so I'm not surprised that he's been hot coming out of the shoot. That doesn't necessarily mean he's going to be hot all season long. And I do believe that he's much better in the role of part time player than he is as a full time Yes, super utility, Yes, a great player, Yes, a great teammate. All those things are true. But the reality of it is is that he's probably the best player at three hundred and fifty at bats a year rather than seven hundred at.

00:15:14
Speaker 5: Bats a year and multiple positions.

00:15:17
Speaker 1: Correct.

00:15:18
Speaker 2: Yes, I agree with that, gentlemen, it is time for money moves. Citizens' money moves are brought to you by citizens. From making a plan to reaching your goals, Citizens has the personal, personalized advice and tools to help you make sense of your money. Citizens Official Bank of the Phillies. We're talking money, and nobody right now in that Phillies lineup is more money than Kyle Schwarber. Guys, He's got to be the Citizens' money move today. He had single triple home run. That home run that he hit in the boy, I think what inning that was? Sixth?

00:16:00
Speaker 1: Se was it the fifth?

00:16:03
Speaker 2: It was the fifth? There you go. If it's a fifth inning, four hundred and sixty six feet, it's eleventh longest home run tracked in his career. Left his bat at one hundred and sixteen point nine miles.

00:16:14
Speaker 1: An hour, sixteen point seven wick. There we go, Thank you, Ruben.

00:16:18
Speaker 2: Hundred and sixteen point.

00:16:20
Speaker 1: Ball by a left hander ever in the history of Chrys Sales.

00:16:24
Speaker 2: Just crushed it. Yeah, and then he's off to a tremendous start. What do we you know, what what's impressed you guys about Kyle Schwarbur over these first ten games?

00:16:38
Speaker 5: Everything?

00:16:39
Speaker 4: I mean, you know, how quick his bat is is what impresses me. How quick his bat is without and without coming out of his swing, if you know what I mean.

00:16:51
Speaker 5: His swing is always under control.

00:16:53
Speaker 4: He's always got really good balance, and yet he generates so much velocity with that bad head. That's really what And he's so short to the ball. That's what impresses me most about Kyle Schwarberz right now in his wing.

00:17:08
Speaker 3: What impressed me yesterday was the fact that he hit a base hit when he's beating on the pitch and stayed on it long enough and flipped a outside slider and hooked it to right field for a knock.

00:17:21
Speaker 1: Then he gets a change up that's down and in.

00:17:24
Speaker 3: It was sort of a mistake, but got up enough so that he can get some barrel on it, and he stays inside it, doesn't hook it, stays inside it and drives it the right center field probably would have been out about nine or ten ballparks. It was like the deepest part of the ballpark there at Truest smoked that ball for the triple.

00:17:44
Speaker 1: The fact that Harris.

00:17:45
Speaker 3: The second could not make the play, We'll tell you because he can cover some ground.

00:17:50
Speaker 1: We'll tell you that he.

00:17:50
Speaker 3: Smoked that ball, and then you know, Sale tries to sneak a piece of cheese past him, and you can't sneak a piece of cheese that pass. I rack my friend, and he absolutely ratted that ball in the right center field. He smoked it, and uh, I mean it was like a cannon. It was like cannon fodder.

00:18:09
Speaker 1: Bang.

00:18:10
Speaker 3: I mean, he hit all four scenes of that baseball and went went a long, long way. One of the hardest hit balls I think I've ever seen live. Maybe that beach gave up the line drive to uh, who.

00:18:23
Speaker 1: Was Andrew Jones in the might have been the furthest ball or hardest ball hit. But this is definitely a close second.

00:18:31
Speaker 4: That's the second time we've talked about second time we've.

00:18:33
Speaker 5: Talked about that home run in a few weeks.

00:18:35
Speaker 1: It was majestic.

00:18:36
Speaker 3: But that said, you know, it's unfortunate that that effort went by the wayside, right Yeah.

00:18:46
Speaker 2: Yeah, he that ball was hit so far and so long it almost went into the chop house, the people dining in the chop house in right center field. I mean, and you know, you say, four hunderd and sixty six feet, but watching that from the press box, that is such a far way away from home plate where he hit that ball. It really just, you know, kind of reminds me of well, it definitely reminded me of this second deck shot he hit against U Darvish in Game one of the NLCS.

00:19:15
Speaker 1: That was the second deck.

00:19:16
Speaker 2: I remember talking to Padreser. He's like, I've never seen a ball hit up there during batting practice before. And it also reminds me a shot that's that deep into the ballpark. Of course, reminds me of Matt Stares his home run against the Dodgers in the two thousand and eight NLCS.

00:19:33
Speaker 3: Those were like more majestic and higher. They had a higher launch angle. This one was a rocket. I mean when it hit the wall of the chop house, it hit it with some force. It may have shipped some of the brick out there.

00:19:48
Speaker 2: Kyle Schuber has five home runs in his first ten games, tied for the fourth most in the team's first ten games to start a season. Mike Schmidt. I did not know this. Mike Schmidt hit not in his first ten games in nineteen seventy six. Chase Sutley had six in his first ten games in twenty ten, and the old stand by Dolph Camillie had six to start all the nineteen thirty five seasons, so Schwarber's on a ridiculous start. So, guys, I'm watching Schwarber play last night. I know I'm getting ahead of myself, but I'm watching Schwarber play last night, and I'm watching this start.

00:20:23
Speaker 1: I'm going, maybe.

00:20:26
Speaker 2: They should start talking about that contract extension.

00:20:30
Speaker 1: Does that that thought?

00:20:31
Speaker 2: Does that thought pop into your mind right now? Guys? At all?

00:20:34
Speaker 1: Or is it?

00:20:35
Speaker 2: Am I just you know, falling in love with a really great ten games start to the season.

00:20:41
Speaker 5: It pops in my head all the time.

00:20:43
Speaker 4: Okay, it's if you'd like, take a two year deal, I'd be all over that like a duck on a june bug. Maybe even a three year deal. But I just don't know, if you know, he's he you know, I don't know where to go with it. He's probably gonna want more than that, because, like, I think that bat speed will hold up till he's forty. I just I'm just worried about the age of the nucleus. But again, I think his bat speed will hold up. He might be the exception. I don't know what to do. Part of me wants to see this thing. I want to see how the season plays out, because I just think that the stakes are so high in this season, this two hundred twenty twenty five season.

00:21:27
Speaker 5: You know they got to win. Now, you know they're they're poised to win.

00:21:32
Speaker 4: And if you don't win and things don't go well, you may have to consider changing the mix, and you may have to say goodbye to some people you really like, and you might want to keep your flexibility open just in case you have to change the mix. And I'm referring to your your your guys that are I'm going to be free agents, and referring to the guys that are one year away from free agency.

00:22:00
Speaker 5: So as much as I would.

00:22:02
Speaker 4: If you would do it two even a three year deal, I probably would jump on it right now, but I'm also open to letting it ride. I apologize for my wish you washing answer that's why I couldn't be a DM.

00:22:15
Speaker 3: Well, first and foremost, if you were going to be, if you're in that seat, and I have been in that seat, you don't want to sign him right now when he's hot. You want to wait for him to go to a to a slow streak and then and then have the you know, a power discussion about it if you wanted to do that. I think that they're going to be prudent about it, and they're gonna hold off. I love the guy. I love what he brings to the table. I love everything about him. There's nothing not to love about Kyle Schwarbury fits so perfectly on this ball club for a lot.

00:22:41
Speaker 1: Of different reasons.

00:22:43
Speaker 3: But they've got a lot of decisions to make over the next you know, several months. One of them is can this team win and can they you know, can they be a world champion? And I think that's the most important thing. I think you'd sort of have to ride it out, let it all happen. Yes, do you think about signing the guy, Yes.

00:23:00
Speaker 1: You do. But they did the same thing with JT. Real Muto.

00:23:03
Speaker 3: They let him ride and they signed him, and so I mean, maybe maybe it gets to the point where we have.

00:23:08
Speaker 1: To wait to see what the market does and go from there.

00:23:13
Speaker 2: A couple of quick things here before we rode about you, Todd, Todd, you sort of dodged that one.

00:23:18
Speaker 1: I did.

00:23:19
Speaker 2: I just asked the question, Yeah, what do you got? Yeah, you know, I feel like you need to wait a little bit. But I'm hoping, I guess. I'm guessing that they're still having some of these conversations. Maybe just let's check back in every once in a while. But when you see him hit like this, and Jimmy McK a great point this is, I was just looking this up a bat speed. You know, you can look look, you can take a look at bat measure. Yeah, now you can measure it. Last year, he was third in baseball in bat speed, seventy seven point five miles an hour. His bat speed this season, you know, his seventy six point three. So he stopped ten in baseball in bat speed. And so, yeah, you don't see a guy who you necessarily worry about is stereotypically the big, hulking designated hitter. You know, you sign him to a four year deal and then he just fades away. I look at him, and I had this thought pop into my head last night on the lift on the way home back to the hotel, is why can't he be David Ortiz in a sense, you know, why can't just be a designated hitter that just crushes baseballs until his late thirties. So I feel like there's yes, I feel like there's less risk with with with Kyle Schwarber, then again your stereotypical designated hitter. You know Nelson Cruz for years.

00:24:43
Speaker 1: It's a great comp. It's a great comp.

00:24:45
Speaker 3: I mean the David Ortiz comp is a great comp because he was also a terrific leader. And I think that's also what Kyle Schwarber is as well.

00:24:54
Speaker 1: He really is.

00:24:55
Speaker 3: I mean, Harper leads because he's the great player, and he's, you know, the most complete player. But Kyle Schwarber is sort of the leader in the clubhouse in a lot of different ways, and he sort of sets the tone in that clubhouse in a lot of ways. And so I see that comp. Great comp. So that's why you're on this damn podcast. That's why you leave the podcast there really is. It's a great comp because I watched David Ortiz, particularly in his last season, and what he went through and what he meant to that organization, and I think Kyle Schwarber is the same way. They just have to win a World Series with him and then it'll be the perfect comp.

00:25:36
Speaker 5: Right.

00:25:36
Speaker 4: I just I look at this nucleus and guys approaching free agency either there at the end of this year or there at the end of twenty six, and I just get a little, a little afraid because I've seen Phillies teams get old in the past, right before our eyes, and I've seen what happens.

00:25:58
Speaker 5: And then the dig out. The digout is really tough.

00:26:02
Speaker 4: So it's a it's a riddle in a conundrum and a mystery and all that stuff.

00:26:08
Speaker 5: What was that line in the movie.

00:26:11
Speaker 2: A riddle wrapping in Enigma? I don't know.

00:26:13
Speaker 5: I don't know. It's it's a it's a tough one. It's a tough one.

00:26:17
Speaker 2: Not even it is a tough one, guys. A couple of quick things I just wanted to mention more like you know, uh newsy no note keeping, uh things.

00:26:26
Speaker 3: Uh.

00:26:27
Speaker 2: Ranger Suarez is going to begin a rehab assignment on Thursday with the Class A clear where he's going to start throwing three innings, so you can go three, then you go four, then you go five. Then maybe he comes back after three rehab starts. I don't know, but that's that's the plan for him. Uh. Rob Thompson before the game yesterday, was asked about Jordan Romana, who we talked a lot about in our last episode. He says he thinks he's healthy, and I said, do you believe him when he tells you that he's healthy? Says, I believe. I believe him when he tells me that he is healthy, that he does not have it elbow issue or back issue or shoulder issue. He says, maybe the fact that he pitched three out of four days affected him on Sunday. He says, I don't know that for sure, but that is kind of what he is hoping at some point. Sounds like he's going to pitch in some lower leverage situations the next time he comes out. That would elevate Jose Ruiz and Joe Ross. Not ideal, but that's kind of where we are. Andrew Painter is going to throw two innings thirty five pitches on Friday for Clearwater. So if you're in Clearwater, go to the ballpark on Thursday and Friday, you get to see Raner Suarez pitch and then Andrew Painter pitch for a few innings. So wanted to mention those two things. We oh, yeah, we'll be back on Friday after this series and we'll talk about the Cardinal series. But the Philly Show is brought to you by citizens. Makes sense, of your money with citizens Official Bank of the Phillies. ICE. Talk to you later.

00:28:02
Speaker 5: Smell later, boys, Smell you guys.

00:28:09
Speaker 1: Mm hmm

00:28:12
Speaker 2: Mm hmm

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