375 | Why Most CCPT Therapists Crumble Under Pressure (And What To Do About It!)

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You're listening to the Play Therapy Podcast with Dr. Brenna Hicks,

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your source for centered and focused play therapy coaching.

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Hi,

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I'm Dr. Brenna Hicks,

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The Kid Counselor.

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In today's episode,

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we are

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going to kind of do an overview of

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the Summit Framework.

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If you have no idea what that is,

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that is the content that I presented at the Field of Dreams event on Saturday.

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And so,

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for those of you that did the webinar that came in person,

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that have already done the on-demand,

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this will be kind of a recap for you.

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I think certainly helpful,

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7+ or minus 2,

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we need to hear things.

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But potentially for those of you that

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have

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no idea of the content of the Field of Dreams

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and or you've not heard me mention the Summit Framework,

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I want to spend a little bit of time talking through this because

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this is the greatest issue that we face right now in our field.

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I really truly believe

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that

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the struggle for us to feel like we are confident in

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our skills and that we are competent in the model.

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It is always tied back to.

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Where we are on the summit.

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what I think is one of the greatest issues within CCPT.

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there has never been

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a path.

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There has never been a developmental roadmap

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for mastery

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in CCPT.

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In other words,

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we hear the skills,

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we learn the principles and the tenets.

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We know we're supposed to do 11 things in the playroom.

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But we don't know how to get better at one or all of those things.

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And we end up frustrated and feeling insecure,

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and then unfortunately,

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that often leads to theoretical drift.

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And so,

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the Summit Framework was designed and created specifically to provide

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that developmental roadmap.

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There has to be a path

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to know not only where you are,

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but where you need to go and therefore,

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what you need to do to get there.

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And this is not,

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well,

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let's be really clear,

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I didn't like revolutionize this concept.

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Every skilled

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human.

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That can be athletes,

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that can be musicians,

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that can be.

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People in a specific industry.

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If you are highly skilled,

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highly trained,

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highly specialized,

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every single one of those people started with fundamentals

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and continue to work on foundational elements.

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Because mastery is never achieved by moving quickly

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through the basics.

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And what I think is missing for most of us is

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we don't realize that we need to stabilize under pressure.

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Every single

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time there's a failure in the playroom.

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is an indication of failure under pressure.

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And growth and mastery requires discipline.

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Not constantly adding

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and,

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and trying to get to higher levels.

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It's about looking at the basics and going through

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them slowly and with purpose and with intention.

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Returning to basics and fundamentals is

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professionalism.

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That's standard in every industry.

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It's not regression.

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It's not

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like we haven't had

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higher levels of knowledge.

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It's that we come back to it because we have to.

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play piano and keys and sing.

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Eric plays

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all kinds of instruments and sings.

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We go to open mics a lot.

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play at church and whatever.

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So pretty musical around here.

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We are both constantly around musicians that know more about music theory than us.

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And we are constantly reminded and made aware

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that to have mastery

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musically,

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know your

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You have to know your scales.

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You have to know notes in the scales,

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majors and minors.

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You have to understand.

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The,

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the 5th,

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the principle of the 5th,

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you have to understand

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theory of music

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to really truly master it at a high level.

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Pieces of music written.

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are so ridiculously challenging.

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pieces of music with any instrument.

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If they can't

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play scales.

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And this is what we do in CCPT all the time.

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We want to understand themes,

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and we want to jump to all of these insight skills.

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understand symbolic play,

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and we want to be able to identify shifts,

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and we want to be able to articulate stuff to parents.

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We should know about those,

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and we should be doing those things.

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But we should certainly never prioritize mastery of those things

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until we've mastered clinical skills.

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If we can't provide a choice effectively,

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if we can't set a limit accurately.

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That's where we start.

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And so the Summit Framework is designed to look at how we progress.

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And to identify the level honestly.

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Look,

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we all want to say that we're better than we are.

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Faking good is the term.

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We all want to say that we're better than we are.

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The reality is,

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we have to stabilize skills before we advance to the next tier.

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We can't

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get to premature application.

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Of stuff when we haven't had the foundation

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established first.

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when you think about

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identifying where you are on the summit,

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knowing how you can get better and improve,

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you have to think about

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Is your internal steadiness challenged?

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And that can be because of the child,

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it can be because of parents.

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It can be from within yourself,

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maybe your own expectations or your own hesitations or confusions or whatever.

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If we don't have internal steadiness.

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we're crumbling under pressure.

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We should never think that if sessions feel comfortable,

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that means that we have mastery.

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Your true level shows up when pressure is present,

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and that's your indication of where you need to work.

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I want to really quickly just kind of hit the Summit Framework levels,

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and I want to help you understand what that looks like.

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So at the bottom,

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we have clinical skills.

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We move to applied next,

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we move to refined after that,

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and then finally insight.

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let me just kind of really quickly hit over this,

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and you need to be honestly evaluating and assessing where you land.

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So our clinical skills,

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we have the reflective responses

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and the pillars.

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Those 6 things,

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pretty basic.

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But here's what happens.

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I watch sessions every single week in coaching.

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Where therapists can't execute a limit.

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Every single week.

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These are not new therapists.

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Let me be really clear.

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This isn't like I just graduated and I'm new to CCPT and,

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and,

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you know,

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this is like an early stage of my career.

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These are seasoned CCPTs

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and I watch them fumble

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their way through limits in sessions.

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therapist that's been doing CCPT for a while

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wants to admit,

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gosh,

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I'm on tier one

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of the summit.

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I'm still down at clinical skills.

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I thought I'd be way further ahead by now.

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it's not to say that these therapists don't know how to

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communicate unconditional acceptance and return responsibility

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and the be with attitudes.

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That's,

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those are applied skills.

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That's next tier.

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It's not that they're not

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conveying those things.

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It's not that they don't understand how to use

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I wonder statements or whisper techniques or value-laden words.

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Those are the refined skills.

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That's tier 3.

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It's not like they don't do those or they can't do those.

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It's not like they don't sometimes see sifts in,

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in symbolic play and themes.

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That's the insight level.

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here's what

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we're missing.

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If we can't set a limit,

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Consistently,

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accurately,

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adherently,

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not sometimes,

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not most of the time,

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not only when things are smooth,

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but when

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the child is frantic and room wrecking

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and throwing and breaking and screaming and yelling

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and creating havoc in your room,

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hurting you,

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trying to leave,

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breaking windows.

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are you able to every single time.

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Set an adherent,

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clear,

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effective limit.

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If the answer is no,

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it's not a failure to say

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I'm at the clinical level.

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what does that mean?

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That means that that's where you spend your time and energy.

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Working toward mastery.

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You are not going to work toward mastering.

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Enlarging the meaning of a child's play.

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When you can't set a limit appropriately.

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Enlargement is tier 3.

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You're still on tier 1.

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And this is what often happens

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when we try to go above our

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level.

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When we try to go too far,

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too fast up the summit.

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We are always end up crumbling under the pressure.

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Because we always come back to

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where our skills are the least stable.

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You have to think about constructing something.

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Constructing scaffolding or a skyscraper or building a home

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building a concrete block wall.

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If you don't have solid foundation,

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it doesn't matter how high it goes,

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it doesn't matter how many layers you put,

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it doesn't matter how much work you do,

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eventually it becomes unstable and it crumbles under pressure.

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So we rush ahead

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and we're constantly trying to add these new skills

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and we're trying to work on these high-level things.

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Look,

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do we need to be able to recognize themes?

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Sure.

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But that's what I get emails about all the time.

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I'm really struggling to identify themes.

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I'm really not sure what this means.

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Is this potentially a power and control theme?

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Do you think that this is because there's this coming out?

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Look,

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your time and energy and attention has to take you back

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to

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the skills

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that are crumbling under pressure.

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What breaks down for you under pressure?

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If you don't reflect feelings.

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When

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The child is really,

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really emotional.

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You're on level one.

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You're crumbling under the pressure of level one.

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If you can't execute a limit

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when a child is wreaking havoc,

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you're crumbling under the pressure,

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you're still on level one.

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If you don't reflect content when you don't like the content.

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When the kid says,

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I'm going to kill you

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by stabbing you in your heart with a knife

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and watch you die.

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And you say nothing because in your head you're going,

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oh my gosh,

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I can't say that back to him and like,

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oh my gosh,

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what is this kid going to become a sociopath and like,

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do I need to do some kind of report and do

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we think that he's actually talking about a friend at school?

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And like,

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what if he's actually meaning this in a real way?

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You're crumbling under the pressure

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of level one.

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If you can't reflect content,

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if you don't feel comfortable with the content.

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These are basic things,

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yes,

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but we will never be able to master higher level things

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if we can't hold steady

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and true.

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With the lower things.

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Where do skills become inconsistent for you?

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Where do you not have the ability

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to trust that every single time it's going to go the same way?

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Your next step.

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For mastery is never getting to the next level,

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but that's what we think.

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We want to scale up the summit.

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We want to go all the way to the top and plant the flag at the top of Mount Everest

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and say,

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Oh my gosh,

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I've climbed the highest point on Earth,

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and what a feat and what an accomplishment,

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and this makes me feel so

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satisfied and pleased and proud of myself.

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We all have this desire to ascend.

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But

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the next step on mastery is never getting to the next level,

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it's refining the level beneath you.

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You cannot expect to continue to go up further.

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If you haven't spent the time to refine the level beneath you.

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To make sure that you're not breaking down under pressure,

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to make sure that you're not losing steadiness,

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to make sure that your skills are not becoming inconsistent.

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And

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let's go back to music.

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Like we can go back to sports.

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I showed a video at the conference

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of Aaron Judge.

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And if you know nothing about baseball,

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I'm sure you've at least heard of Aaron Judge.

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First of all,

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just a good guy.

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But,

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Set a record

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for the number of home runs in a season.

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We actually were at the game where he hit his fifty-third home run

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of that season.

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My son has a big thing

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on his wall commemorating that season.

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We're not Yankees fans.

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Let me be really clear,

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but

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we really like Judge.

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Anyway.

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Here's the thing though.

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I showed a video

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where

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he was in the cages

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with a guy that was interviewing him and the guy's like,

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so what's your pregame routine?

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Like,

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how do you get ready to go out and hit?

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And he goes,

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I get in the cage and I do teamwork.

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Now,

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for those of you that know nothing about baseball.

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It's literally a little tee that you put a ball on and you hit

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the ball off of the tee.

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They start that with 3 year olds in Little League.

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My son,

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I have video of my son hitting off of a tee when he was 3 years old.

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And after like 4 or 5 rounds of it,

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he moved the tee out of the way and was like,

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what are you making me hit off of this thing for?

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And he wanted me to under toss the ball to him.

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So at 3 years old,

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he got live pitching because he didn't want to hit off of a tee.

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But

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the point is,

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they start the youngest baseball players.

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With teamwork

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And Aaron Judge

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Who makes $40 million a year.

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Still goes into the cage and hits off of a tee.

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Do you think there's ever a point in his

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life,

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in his training,

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in his career

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where he goes,

417
00:15:31,669 --> 00:15:32,070
you know,

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I'm really past hitting off of a tee now.

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And,

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you know,

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I make a lot of money and I'm at the highest level of my field

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as an athlete.

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And I just don't need to do this anymore.

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So,

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I'm just gonna like say that I've moved past that and,

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you know,

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I'm gonna do higher things,

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more important things,

429
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you know,

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more advanced things now because

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teamwork is beneath me.

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No,

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00:15:55,359 --> 00:15:58,239
every single day he goes in and hits off of a tee.

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But in our field,

435
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for some reason,

436
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much to my confusion actually,

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00:16:04,479 --> 00:16:05,640
we have this notion.

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That we have to keep advancing and going further and going faster and going higher,

439
00:16:10,960 --> 00:16:12,479
and we don't come back to basics.

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Every other industry on this planet

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constantly goes back to basics

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00:16:19,380 --> 00:16:21,140
to support mastery.

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Musicians at the highest level

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still play scales.

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Still study music theory.

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Circle of fifths,

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tonics.

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The level

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of study and practice that musicians do

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when they've mastered their instrument,

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00:16:42,030 --> 00:16:44,330
athletes do when they've mastered their sport.

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It's nonstop

453
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and for some reason,

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we as therapists think that we know better

455
00:16:51,380 --> 00:16:55,020
or that we're smarter or I'm not sure exactly what it is,

456
00:16:55,559 --> 00:16:56,469
it's nonsense.

457
00:16:56,640 --> 00:16:59,020
The only way we master something.

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is we make sure that we are stable under pressure.

459
00:17:03,080 --> 00:17:03,979
We make sure

460
00:17:04,118 --> 00:17:04,540
that

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00:17:04,800 --> 00:17:07,810
we practice the way that we are supposed to do it,

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so that when it matters,

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and it's game time or it's performance time

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or we're in front of a stage,

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in front of an audience,

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in front of a crowd.

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00:17:16,979 --> 00:17:19,180
It's just so muscle memory at that point,

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we don't even have to think about it.

469
00:17:22,510 --> 00:17:23,618
But as I mentioned,

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we're not going to play the hardest piano piece ever composed.

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If we don't know

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00:17:31,810 --> 00:17:33,089
the scale of D minor.

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We have to bring ourselves back.

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So,

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00:17:38,079 --> 00:17:38,959
to wrap this up,

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how do we do this?

477
00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:40,640
So I,

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I'm telling you all these important things we have to be doing.

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How do we do it?

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Well,

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number one strategy is

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video-based self-review.

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And

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I walk you through.

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How to

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watch your sessions

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and how to

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assess where you are

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00:18:02,020 --> 00:18:03,560
and how to work on

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00:18:03,739 --> 00:18:05,859
which level of the summit you're on.

491
00:18:07,069 --> 00:18:09,829
And once you have mastery over that level,

492
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then you move up and then you start the process all over again.

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00:18:14,260 --> 00:18:16,400
So you're codifying what skills are being used,

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you're evaluating whether you use them appropriately,

495
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you're making tweaks as necessary.

496
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You're going through the process with the skills only in that tier.

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Because

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mastery is built through disciplined refinement,

499
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and you cannot refine your skills if you're not watching your sessions,

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and if you're not seeing what's going on,

501
00:18:36,900 --> 00:18:38,280
and you're not assessing

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00:18:38,420 --> 00:18:40,439
whether or not you're stable under pressure.

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Advancement follows stability,

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not speed.

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We're not rushing through this.

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It may take you a year

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to move past

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the clinical skill level.

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That's

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appropriate.

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It's important,

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and it's necessary.

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Returning to basics is a sign of professionalism.

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00:19:02,650 --> 00:19:05,599
And that's what the Summit Framework is designed to do,

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to help us to be professionals in our field

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with mastery over the model

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and with a pathway to get there.

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So,

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for those of you that

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were a part of the Field of Dreams,

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I hope this was a helpful refresher for you,

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maybe a,

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a re-encouragement or a re-inspiration.

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For those of you that are going,

525
00:19:22,959 --> 00:19:23,219
wow,

526
00:19:23,329 --> 00:19:25,020
this actually sounds like something that I need.

527
00:19:25,099 --> 00:19:28,040
This sounds like something that I really need to evaluate and figure it out,

528
00:19:28,459 --> 00:19:29,959
go to playtherapynow.com.

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The on-demand course is live as of yesterday.

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So,

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if you would like to,

532
00:19:35,459 --> 00:19:36,810
this was only Saturday content,

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by the way,

534
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Sunday content is different.

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But

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if you feel like this would be helpful for you to figure out where you are on the summit

537
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and how to work toward mastery over time,

538
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playtherapynow.com,

539
00:19:47,380 --> 00:19:49,280
you'll be able to get the on-demand course.

540
00:19:49,579 --> 00:19:50,380
And honestly,

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I think that

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the more of us that spend the time to do this,

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the more of us that focus on

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00:19:56,339 --> 00:19:58,160
figuring out where we are on the summit

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and moving toward higher levels when we're ready,

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00:20:01,500 --> 00:20:03,160
not because we want to go higher,

547
00:20:03,420 --> 00:20:05,380
but because we've already gone deeper.

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I think our kids are better for it,

549
00:20:07,810 --> 00:20:08,969
our families are better for it,

550
00:20:09,050 --> 00:20:10,479
our communities are better for it,

551
00:20:10,930 --> 00:20:12,969
and the field as a whole is better for it

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00:20:13,369 --> 00:20:15,250
because that's what true mastery looks like.

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00:20:15,369 --> 00:20:18,910
And when we have an entire field full of CCPT masters,

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00:20:19,770 --> 00:20:21,829
that changes the dynamic

555
00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:23,310
for a lot of things.

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I love y'all.

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00:20:24,550 --> 00:20:25,369
Thanks for hanging out with me.

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00:20:25,469 --> 00:20:26,359
We'll talk again soon.

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Bye.

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Thank you for listening to the Play Therapy Podcast with Dr. Brenna Hicks.

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