Heather McDonald’s Juicy Scoop on the Housewives & the Mormon Wives!

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Speaker 1: Hello, gorgeous. It is Laalaka and welcome back to the Give Them Laala podcast. I have Jessica Wolta with me. Hi babe. Hello, Easton is in Hawaii for a wedding. Sounds pretty sheet great.

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Speaker 2: So she and he's having so much fun.

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Speaker 1: I heard, Yeah, he's having a great time. So my other co host is Heather McDonald's Yai Mama. I love having you because I tell you this every time we hang out, anytime you do my podcast, anytime I do yours, that you are one of the funniest people that I've ever met in my entire life. So I'm so happy to have you here.

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Speaker 3: Well, thank you. I love you too. And I'm excited because part of the payment is that I get to come over and see the new Sosa baby, which I've not I've not met that cuteness in person, and I'm pretty excited.

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Speaker 1: She's officially what is she No?

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Speaker 4: No.

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Speaker 1: Five weeks and some change, so you'll be one.

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Speaker 3: Of the still get to like it's still babyhead smell and all that, right.

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Speaker 1: All the things a good Yeah. Five weeks is when a little bit of baby acne pops up. She's got more than the average newborn. She's got very sensitive skin. And she is a white baby. Heather, Okay, she to be white.

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Speaker 3: And I brought the jig and self Tanner could slaughter up at it.

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Speaker 1: She is my fair lady. That is. I'll be breastfeeding her and like I'll sit her up to switch boobs and I look at her face and I'm like, oh my god, what happened? And it's just literally from me ever so slightly holding her head like redness or something, all the redness. If you were to open a box of crayolas, hers would be fire red. No, she's very cute. You'll be one of the first people to meet her.

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Speaker 3: Oh good, I'm very excited. I'm very excited.

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Speaker 2: I'm curious if you think she looks like gig Oh.

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Speaker 3: I've seen I've seen the photo that you posted. Did you think or yes, definitely? And I mean I think she looks a lot like you and I look and yeah, and so I think that. But it's funny because before you know, you came out with the name and I just like, I don't know, I said, like on some show, I'm like, I know the name and it goes great with Ocean because I do think ocean and Sosa sound good together, and you kind of want sibling names, especially if they're the same sex. I think you kind of go good together. So then people were like, it's sailor. It's this like people thought it was an ocean name, and I just beent, like, no, the the oh of Sosa sounds cute with ocean totally.

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Speaker 1: I think people either loved the name or were not fans of the name.

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Speaker 3: Who cares.

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Speaker 1: I don't really give a fuck.

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Speaker 3: Everybody what. It doesn't matter even if someone doesn't like it. That's the name. One since the name, and she's like, I can't see her as anything else, and and you love it, you know. And also there aren't a lot of like bitchy ex girlfriend's names Sosa. I don't know, I don't know what because that's always that's always thing. Really, Craig, you name your son Craig. You know, it's like, so it's all good. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: My whole thing is if you don't like it, don't name your child that exactly.

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Speaker 5: I didn't realize how much people care about syllables too. The people who love it are like, and it's the same syllable ocean Sosa.

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Speaker 2: Do you care about that, you do, don't you.

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Speaker 1: Well, I just like the flow of.

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Speaker 3: That good together.

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Speaker 1: I think it does too. I also love the fact that I and I just learned this that the the drug mob boss or whatever in Scarface is named something Sosa.

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Speaker 3: Do you guess? I just love Scarface for the first time in my entire life. On that to the East Coast. Yeah, okay, I'd never seen it, and I mean I thought it was great. I just I thought there was going to be more like passion love between the like before watching it, knowing that Michelle Pfiffer wasn't it and that she was like the drug lord's girlfriend, and then they found I thought there was a reason why she fell in love with him, and I felt like there was no chemistry and I wanted that like he's a he's an awful murder person, but like he's sexy and I can't get enough of him. And then someone's like, oh, the movie to watch if you want to see that one is with I think it's Johnny Depp and Blow Cruise Blow. Yes, that one. There's like a real passion where she's like, you know, finds herself in love with the drug lord and that's what I wanted to see more of all right, yeah that but yeah, so yeah, so the name is also I was gonna say about so so, which is great. Tell me is when it comes time for her to learn how to spell her name, it's pretty easy, was off, like a genius.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Ocean already knows how because it's the easiest name on the planet. Yes.

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Speaker 3: So then it's like, oh my god, you're so smart you already spell your name. It's like like if you name your kid Bob, and like you'll not be worried about that child's development.

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Speaker 1: Like I thought if it. My grandpa's name was Bob and for a short period of time, it's so good. I'm like, if I have a boy, Bob is the name. It's so good.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Have you been watching that Mormon Wives show?

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Speaker 3: Yes, I'm completely up on it, and I interviewed two of the girls.

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Speaker 1: All right, so let me tell you I'm completely not up on it.

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Speaker 3: Well, you know you're part of it. Now, can you tell us what you're talking about?

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Speaker 2: The cousin the genealogy related.

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Speaker 1: So Shina texted that to me and I said, I want no parts. I want no parts. I got through three episodes. I told myself, I'm going to give it another shot. So I got through half of the second episode that I left behind, picked it up, watched that, got through the third episode, and said I cannot do it.

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Speaker 2: Why.

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Speaker 1: I just I don't find it interesting. I find it cringey. I find it to be I just am not everyone else is into it. No, everyone loves it.

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Speaker 3: Not necessarily true, because like you know, I have like a group that watches these shows and we talk about it on my Facebook group and know a lot of people felt exactly what you did. Like, I don't get the hype. I've I got them all in that code. I was able to figure out how to watch it. They're able to out the pasta So I was watching them and because I was going to interview them. Sometimes when you have to watch something because you're going to do work, it feels a little bit like work. So at first I thought was a little bit better about working. Just when I was about to give up on it, I was like, oh, oh my god, I have more episodes to watch, and then it kind of was getting good. But I get what everyone says. I get that they all look alike. It's really hard to.

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Speaker 1: Keep them Utah that's Utah. Everyone looks the same. They've all got like the inserted you know, those teeth that you wind up and the yeah, they all have those mouths. So when I came out here and people are like, your teeth are amazing, I'm like, not even go to Utah and it's like a lot of dentists, a lot of dentists, a lot of teeth whitener people. I think it's.

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Speaker 3: Also like clean living of Mormons. Like I remember when they, you know, rescued all those Mormon kids from like whatever, horrible guy's name was Ohn Jeffs Yeah, and they were like, oh my god, these kids. They're so polite. They're just asking for like raw apples and carrots and they no processed food and generations of no drinking and no. I mean, I do think that kind of gives you a healthier glow, whether it's your teeth or your skin or your hair or whatever. It's good clean in bread living.

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Speaker 1: You said it, No.

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Speaker 3: Well a lot you know, speaking of inbread. Okay. So so there's this girl and I interviewed her and she was very cute and her name is Jen Affleck. And they made a big deal. They would say all the girls. Here is Demi. Here's this. They would never say anyone else's last name when they bring them up on the In the show, she's married to Zach f Affleck, who is a They described it as a second cousin to Ben.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so relect not like aflack, not the duck like the actor. Yes, got it.

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Speaker 3: And so I was like, well, that's interesting because you know Ben is famously from Boston. I'm assuming his family is Catholic who somehow married a Mormon along the road to then be Mormon. Like I was just curious about that part. So I'm asking her and she's just kind of like oh, And so I was like, so, wait, is it like Ben's a grandparent of Ben's is a sibling to a grandparent of or a great grandparent of your husband's Like I was just trying.

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Speaker 1: You were putting a family tree anyway.

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Speaker 3: Turns out they're not related at all at all. That's what genealogy people are saying. They're not related at all. They just have the same last name. She had said that they had never met him, but I'm like, well, yeah, I haven't met a third removed cousin either, you know. And so then and they said, but he's related to Laala.

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Speaker 1: Let me tell you something. I don't even I don't even fucking claim my first cousins, all right, so I ain't claiming a fourth Three times removed. I told Sheena, I want no parts of it. It's weird. I don't claim it. I don't want it sent. Take this package home.

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Speaker 3: Read well. There's there's also talk that she might be separated from him now the girl, because he came off very poorly in the.

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Speaker 1: Show and they was hair his weird wafty hair.

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Speaker 3: It was that he seemed quite controlling and he got real weird when the girls went to Magic Mike or Chippendale's or whatever and in Vegas and they went at like six o'clock, it was like light out. They're drinking their SODA's I means, pretty fucking tame, but whatever. And but you know, he's one of those guys that which is like the complete opposite. I went to thunder Down Under, Okay, when I was in Vegas before my show. Not only was I pulled up on stage because I made sure I was gonna be pulled up on stage.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, of course.

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Speaker 3: And you know when they did on real houses of Beverly Hills. It was Sutton being like, it's not about the pants. You know, she wore pants. I wore a skirt. I was like, let it be seen. I had little hot pants off, but I wore a sexy dress.

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Speaker 1: Yeah okay, So then hold on, did you wear cartwheel pants? That's what they're called now, cartwheel pants that you wear under like a dress.

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Speaker 3: It's like a little power short. So it's like sexy in a little but it's also like little like so cartwheels. Yeah yeah, cart wheel short.

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Speaker 1: Nothing shows. I just learned this because Ocean I have to send her to school in cartwheel pants. So you wore a skirt, but you put on your dress.

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Speaker 3: With black dress little you know, hispanic shorts full but full coverage.

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Speaker 1: OK yeah, I love it, so keep going.

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Speaker 3: And so the guy pulls me up and he had like long hair, which is not ever really bend my jam.

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Speaker 2: It was the guy we interviewed lost know.

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Speaker 1: Was it magic guy?

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Speaker 5: It was we interview We had him on the podcast. I saw I think a video.

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Speaker 1: It was a huge was Yeah.

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Speaker 3: They're all like huge long hair is names like Ben. I think I wouldn't name like I was just another you know, older drunk lady like he was like, get me off this shift, right, So then he pulls me up and we're doing all this stuff and we're filming it by Julie of Brandy and Juliet are filming it for me because then we're going to do a live show in Vegas and I wanted to show that video just for those people. So, you know, he is on the bed and then it's like weird because it's like they're thrusting it but they're you know, he's not hard. So I've never had like a guy. I never felt like a non hard dick like that close to me.

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Speaker 1: I think that they do something to it so that you that he doesn't get a heart on.

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Speaker 3: I think it's like a guy no, doesn't doesn't get hard. You know. Most most are like you know, come home from work and see their wife and are like, I'm I'm to see another one. Like I don't know, I just I don't know, I don't know. I'm not a guy.

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Speaker 1: All we know is it was flaccid.

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Speaker 3: It was fine, it was fine, but it was fine. It was funny video. So then on top of that, I then have my twenty one year old son.

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Speaker 1: He had to.

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Speaker 3: Then edit the video of his mom and I'm like, god, you're made for TV movie about your childhood and it's gonna be like so was it Drake. Yeah, Drake was doing it, and so I'm like he's like cutting it da da dah. And then I show it to Peter. He's like, okay, like the most non chous this, yeah, hazard Peter. And meanwhile, this's like this Mormon guy is like, you're not the wife. You're not gonna make it to the celestial heaven with me. I'm like, oh my god, she's crying. She's like I was just trying to be on a reality show. Like so people didn't like him your.

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Speaker 1: Cousin, Okay, you she's not my cousin. I'm not claiming him. You good bye.

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Speaker 5: You have such a passion for not and I've seen comments of people being like she's such a hater.

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Speaker 2: But then you made a good point to me off air.

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Speaker 5: You're like, I experienced a lot of weird, not weird shit during childhood. You saw and heard a lot of weird stuff about the Mormons because your mom.

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Speaker 2: Came from that family.

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Speaker 1: So it's not my mom, my dad, your dad, my dad, and I did not like the way that my dad's family treated him because he left the church when he was twenty two. I just what some people when they watch that show, the Mormon Show, what they think is intriguing in wild I experienced from my family members and the judgment and what it does to a female's mental state and how they sit there and they have to please the husband. They're usually controlled, they don't have minds of their own, they're submissive, they're subservient. It's really fucking sad. So I want no part of it.

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Speaker 3: Well, I will say this about the show. All the girls are divorced. Everybody's on their second husband, which I find very confusing about such a strict religion because I'm like, how is it that everybody can get divorced two and three times and then oh, but you just have to get some paperwork done by the the head temple people.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, what, like, you a temple divorce. Yeah, if you don't get the temple divorce, you're together.

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Speaker 3: Like you get to have it, And they're like, I'm sorry, your paperwork's not in so you've got to be with the first husband. And you're like the ass While I did it when I was twenty. They're like, yeah, you didn't fill out your paperwork right, And keep.

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Speaker 1: In mind they can also when when you die, someone can go in and baptize you and put your name in the church. So they just like are mormonizing all of these people who never wanted to be Mormon after they're dead in their crape. That's why it's just absolute insanity. And the one girl who's like battling with the main girl who got pregnant by that quack tailor. And what's the one the blonde, short hair Whitney Whitney, so.

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Speaker 3: She's Mary's husband was caught on grinder, I mean, and addicted to port just a little slip there, it was tender. So come on, everyone's subtled down. They're pregnant again, and they she's the one that did the dance. Do you know what the the dance tell us about that? I don't know what the Whitney's dance tell me. Whitney's scoop was juicier than the tailor scoop because the tailor scoop is that she did side swinging or no soft swinging.

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Speaker 1: What is that you make out and like jack people off? You don't let them insert you.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's not full penetration in front of your partner, yes.

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Speaker 1: But I think she did it behind his back, which it then became cheating.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah. Then then she so it was a group of people that were like basically it started with like spinning the battle whatever. Then they were like doing stuff with each other grown these are grown people, by the Yeah, like they put their kids to sleep, and then they would be like first, she said, first it was like the husbands were like, you girls should kids. Then it was like, we should kiss each other's partners. Then it should be like we should have sex with our own partners, but in the same room. Then it should be like, let's switch and just dry hump each other's partners. And then two of the guys that she was dry humping with got feelings for her, and then she couldn't understand why those wives didn't want to be her friend anymore. Then it gets weird, So then they she exploded it on TikTok.

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Speaker 1: That's when it gets weird. It's weird once you put the kids to bed and you're playing fucking spin the bottle and you're in a grown person's backyard hot tubbing. But it's his parents and you're drinking out of a fucking flask and you're like, don't let his parents get's like, you're twenty nine, you're twenty nine, You're twenty fucking nine.

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Speaker 2: This is what happens when you're.

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Speaker 1: Okay.

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Speaker 3: So that's she, you know, woke up in the middle of the night and read or read it that they knew that she was a swigger, and she's like, well, I better clear it up on TikTok. So then she gets on TikTok and that's where she does the famous one. We're you know, the these girls that you see me dancing with with their long locks and stuff in our you know, matching homes, we are actually soft swingers. So then everyone's like, who's the swingers? So then they get the reality show. But the girls that were involved in the swinging were like, we don't want to be part of the rally show because we don't want the world to know that we were soft swingers. They are all sense divorced, those even two. Yeah, so they kind of cast or found other girls that were into TikTok that would want to be part of the show. So you're watching this show and I'm like, who did you? And the whole time I'm like, who did she swing with? None of the cast did she ever swing with?

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Speaker 1: I will say this is the one thing that stuck out to me a part on that show. It was episode two or three and Amy with the Bob, the porn addicted husband's wife. What's her name? Amy Whitney? Wait, wait Whitney. They're in the in the kitchen baking cookies with the mom talking about the vibrator and if she should do the ad right, and she's like appalled, because pleasure can become sinful quickly.

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Speaker 3: She should do an ad for Tinder. That's what her husband was or whatever he was on some app Yeah, And.

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Speaker 1: All I could focus on was how could you allow your mom to make those cookies with so much hair on her black on her black T shirt. I could not focus. I was like, there, you're literally gonna serve hair with a cookie around it, dog hair, her own hair. And I know that I know this because my mom's a shutter. My mom's like a.

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Speaker 3: Freaking Golden RETRIEVERT brushes everywhere.

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Speaker 1: I certainly do. And before she makes anything, she goes, do I have anything? Stands like Jesus on the cross, Do I have any hair on me? And we do a run through, We put the hair back, We do a second run through, and I thought, I'm so angry that you're telling your daughter that pleasure can become sinful when you're ready to serve your family hairy cookies.

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Speaker 5: Now you know, yeah, you know it's sinful making cookies with hair on your sweatshirt.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that is sinful, lady.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I and they cooked so much. The Mormons love to make a funeral potato and I'm like, how horrific. I'm sure that the church is like, so they prepped themselves. They're like, oh no, Becky's making the Jollo be prepared. Well.

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Speaker 3: The reason Whitney got famous was before I tell the story. Her child is fine, okay, okay, ty pie, but one of her kids, I think she's pregnant with number four now, but I think baby baby number two or something was. When it was an infant had RSV or they thought he might so he went to the hospital and you know, it turned out he was fine before she took him home. So he's in the plastic little like nick you crib.

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Speaker 1: She is.

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Speaker 2: She the dancer.

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Speaker 3: She did the dance that song I want to be with you, I love you, I want to be and she's like, and she has the writing, and she has the writing of like when you think your child has SV, you know RSV, but he does it. I want to be with you. So the parodies that people are doing are so hilarious that how to resurgence with the show. And people will be like dancing like that, and then their friend will be acting like they just like got hit by a car, and they'll be like, I love you, I want to be with you, I want.

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Speaker 1: To be with you.

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Speaker 2: Yes, sending prayers. But what happened?

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Speaker 1: Wait, this is real.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, this is what she did like a year ago, And so that was part of the show which you did not get to, where she's like, I'm pissed because Taylor did some off swinging and then got pregnant out of wedlock, and she's not getting the kind of shit that I got for doing a TikTok dance when my child was a nick you. But she was like, I did the dance with the intention of I'm dancing because I'm so happy that my baby's okay. But then one of the other girls goes, no, she admitted to me off camera off everything that she did it for likes and follows and was happy that it blew up, but then it blew up for the wrong reason.

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Speaker 5: It is the weirdest. I cannot believe this is in the same world. I thought forever this girl is like number one troll she trolld us all.

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Speaker 2: I thought it was a parody. I am this is that was a.

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Speaker 3: Real That was the original. Yeah, now everybody's doing it as a joke where they like, like I said, they have like there's like a log on their friend and they're like, I want to be with you.

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Speaker 2: I want to like they're friends under a car and they're like, they're my friend.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I have never talked so much about a show that I've never watched. I know, holy shit.

00:21:55
Speaker 3: Well maybe maybe it is a hit. They got a second season. You never know or what I heard.

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Speaker 1: What I heard from a reliable source. They're filming two and three at the same time.

00:22:04
Speaker 3: That's what they do for selling Sunset. That's what they did in the beginning of selling Sunset.

00:22:08
Speaker 2: Kind of smart.

00:22:08
Speaker 1: You know, I've never seen selling Sunset.

00:22:10
Speaker 3: It's got all their stuff out there.

00:22:13
Speaker 1: Oh, I want to say before we move on, Yes, this was me. I I was kind of see you next Tuesday about this show. I just want to say I'm excited for them, right, I know what it's like to like be on television. It's very exciting. I have nothing against any of these chicks. You could line them up in front of me. I couldn't pick them out of a lineup. It's my own personal experiences living in Utah seeing these things where I'm like, I'm triggered. I don't need to watch this. I don't like it.

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Speaker 3: That's legit.

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Speaker 1: So good for them that they got a second and third season. I am praying to God that someone gives someone from Utah a show that does not make us all look like quacks. I turn on Real Housewives of Salt Lake, They're making us look like quax. I turn on this Hulu show, They're making us look like quacks. I'm ready to get my at to one tattoo covered up. I want to see a snowboarder drinking a fucking beer that moved there from Switzerland, because the snow's better in Utah than the Swiss Alps. Show me something fucking cool, make it cool.

00:23:15
Speaker 3: I love Parks City, Utah. That's thank you. For a place to go and ski and shop.

00:23:20
Speaker 1: That's the four three five. Unfortunately I'm ato one bitch.

00:23:24
Speaker 3: Well, I will say, well, now I can't remember, say we continue on.

00:23:30
Speaker 1: It's okay, have you been watching New York in Salt Lake? Yes, okay, I will say Salt Lake.

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Speaker 3: Wait, yeah, Tie, I have a a Fred who is my age. And she goes, you know why, I like the Mormon show The Secret Lies of Wormwives, And she goes, I want to see young pretty people. Yeah. She's just she's like, she's like, I like just seeing like young pretty people on the street. I'm sorry, like I versus like some of the some of like the Housewives being drunk and treating people awful and going to prison and ruining each other's lives. She's like, at least they're like they're not really mean to each other. There's like a stark cure there, but it's pretty much they're not really like that. And so if so, I almost feel like it's why people watch Hallmark movies And I'm like, how do you watch that boring as shit? Like nobody's fucking the nanny or whatever, And they're like, no, I like it because it's like I know no one's gonna fuck the nanny and they're just gonna end up at the Christmas tree lot and I just I just want like a like a non stress thing. All right, it's a stress, it'll get there, right, but right now it isn't.

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Speaker 1: Like that season. Yeah, first seasons of Housewives. If you think about the drama, it was about like sending a mini van rather than an arm like. It was very lighthearted drama and they kind stick.

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Speaker 3: I would like it to say, like just the fun stuff and see these girls personal whatever.

00:24:54
Speaker 1: But yeah, right right, but let's deep dive into where are at each other's threats?

00:25:00
Speaker 3: So tell me what you're talking about.

00:25:01
Speaker 1: So Salt Lake, you've been watching and how how do you feel about the storylines so far? I mean, I think we're four episodes in. Do you like Bronwin? First of all, how weird that there's two bron Wins in the Bravo universe and.

00:25:14
Speaker 3: They spell it differently.

00:25:15
Speaker 1: It's so weird. It is so weird.

00:25:17
Speaker 3: Never heard the name prior to that either one no too? And how Bond is like that thirsty Braun when lesbian Bronwyn but like left and married the girl in Nashville and is just like every four weeks, just trying to get like page six to write something. And she's like, now, god.

00:25:35
Speaker 1: Damn it, you know that's gonna be really hard.

00:25:38
Speaker 3: Yeah.

00:25:38
Speaker 1: Well, because Bronwin with an oh is here.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, is a good choice because she you know, first of all, no no offense to her. Maybe it's because she's around you know, women that are a little older shocked to hear she was thirty eight. Yeah, doesn't mean that she won't look thirty eight fifteen years from now. I just talked about how sometimes when people look a little older than when they get to like their fifties, they still look that age. I don't know if it's the hair or the outfits or what, but I.

00:26:07
Speaker 1: Was like a show of the face, and she's got to marry like a thirty eight year old. To me, No, she's very well spoken. I mean, I feel you. I feel badly that I said her husband was like five hundred years old. There's only a twenty six year age difference. I was like, oh, damn, I can't judge. It's only six years more than my baby dad.

00:26:25
Speaker 3: They won't be married in a year. Because she's already talking about how she like doesn't like to fuck them and everything on camera classic and I'm just like, okay, like, do not go on these shows if you want to stay married now, if you really don't want to find yourself babysitting your grandchildren with your husband fifteen years from now, please turn down the Housewife Show because in ninety eight percent chance you will not make it there.

00:26:50
Speaker 1: I was shocked, though, Heather, I yes, but the Takman's do you remember, I'm Kristen and her husband Josh.

00:26:59
Speaker 3: Yeah from RONI.

00:27:01
Speaker 1: They were at each other's the roads.

00:27:03
Speaker 3: They're still married, So she's not on the show.

00:27:05
Speaker 1: Think it's because she left the show.

00:27:06
Speaker 3: She well, if she left the show because he was on Ashley Madison, right, and then she left the show. And yeah, So when the cameras are gone and you're living your life and you decide we're good, we're gonna stay together, and no one has to know that you were mean to me on Tuesday because the cameras were there, and now they're watching it on Peacock eight years later and you're sending me like, can't believe you're still with that asshole? Like yeah, like, I think I think the best situation. I always said this was was Carol Radswell because she got to be on it. She didn't have a significant other at the time, she didn't have a child that could grow up to hate her because she, you know whatever, humiliated them saying like they can't drive? How many times were to see someone with their own Like it's just so like con I don't want to see the driving classes anymore. People to figure out something else to do with your moody team, I'm done with that scene. So yeah, that's what I think.

00:28:06
Speaker 2: So but don't you guys think, Okay, do you think.

00:28:10
Speaker 5: That it just exposes, not exposes, but puts relationships that like aren't great because you we all know people get married and they can settle and they're like, I'm just going to live with this person forever because I'm too that's all I want. Do you think it puts those relationships and exposes them and then they're not strong and they break up because look at like Heather Dubro, look at Tamra, look at who else.

00:28:34
Speaker 3: Samra Dick get divorced from Eddie no first tession she did.

00:28:40
Speaker 2: Okay, well that's not a good example.

00:28:42
Speaker 3: But I think and with Shannon Badoor, I remember the first time I met Shannon Badoor, Tamra was like, do you want to go to the SEUCLA game? Because I put out on Twitter who has tickets or something? And she's like, I'm actually going and we have tickets. I'm going with a new house wife. Don't say anything. It's shit, you know, I didn't know who it was. She went to SC two. So I meet her and I like, like her, that's right, that's Shannon the door and she brings David and so it's a secret. No one knows that she's on the show. And she's filming whatever, and I'm like, you know, asking a million questions, and I go, I'm a little bit worried, like why would you want to do this show? Because I, you know, i'd been watched. I knew even back then that it was horrible for a marriage. And she goes, I'd like to see my marriage played back. And she goes and I she goes, I I haven't worked, you know, since I had kids, and I think I have something to offer this world and I would like to do it. And I was like all right. At that time, he was great. He was attentive to her, like I, you know, And then we watch it and whatever their situation was. But like so, I think for people like her, she thought he's gonna he's gonna watch it back and see that he's dismissive of me, and that's going to make him step it up and be a great, great husband. It's the complete opposite. They get all the hate from the women across America finding them, telling them they're a piece of shit. Da da dah, and then they get then they read it as the husband, you know, and then they yell at their wife and then.

00:30:16
Speaker 1: It just is like no.

00:30:17
Speaker 3: And so when speaking of which did you watch Ronnie last night?

00:30:21
Speaker 1: The two days ago?

00:30:22
Speaker 3: So I interviewed Aaron, and I again said to Aaron, Aaron, this is last year. To yeah, last year. You seem like you have it together. You're gorgeous. You actually have a real job in real life.

00:30:35
Speaker 1: When did you interview her? It would have been season one.

00:30:38
Speaker 3: Yes, right when season one started.

00:30:39
Speaker 1: Can we talk about her face real fast before we deep down into her marriage as well? What has she done to her face? Because she whatever she's done, she looks phenomenal.

00:30:51
Speaker 3: She looks gorgeous in with the extra hair in the choker, and she is very pretty.

00:30:57
Speaker 1: But she's pretty maybe a little bit of something is it's slight different.

00:31:03
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't even I think she's like barely forty.

00:31:06
Speaker 1: Maybe she maybe a different makeup artist. I don't know. She looks unbelievable. She is like a naturally pretty, stunning human person. Yeah, Okay, the conversation. There's two conversations we've seen with Abe, and that's what they do. They they whatever it is.

00:31:21
Speaker 3: I'm sure they have moments where he's hugging her from behind and being sweet. We're not going to see that. What we're seeing are are the fights that they're having. So the first thing is he jokingly says mentions mushrooms or something.

00:31:36
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was strange the amount of like she was very upset about that.

00:31:40
Speaker 3: So she breaks the fourth wall, which I kind of like, what, you're an idiot, Why are you saying that on air? And then they flash back to when she referenced psychedelics the previous year, and he says, well, I don't like my words being policed. So I feel like they had before doing the show. We can be ourselves. I'll never tell you what to do or say. And now he's experienced her shaming him, calling him an idiot. You spoke out of turn. Then last night we see them go to dinner and I was like, dude, like, there is she treated him? I in my opinion, and I know I saw a snippet horribly. She was like, she goes, do better. You know I was out on jets and stuff. And he was like, I know, I've worked really hard to like be that guy that could provide what the other people. I didn't sleep with those people. I was just so hot that they flew me around. And he's like, yeah, so she goes and so you kept the secret about selling the bit point, just do better.

00:32:37
Speaker 1: Do bad?

00:32:37
Speaker 3: Like she's not like it was. She would never imagine speaking to my husband like that.

00:32:43
Speaker 1: I don't want to ever feel like I need to speak to my husband that way. Oh, but she also says to him, you need to keep proving yourself. Yes, And I was like, if someone spoke that way to me, if especially my partner, I don't think I could be with them. What do you mean I need to keep proving myself? Like what are you bringing to the table that's so above and beyond?

00:33:05
Speaker 3: Oh and do you imagine if we saw a housewife husband say that to his wife, Just do better, just you know what, having yourself. You kept it a secret that you went to sex. You kept it a secret. So you just keep doing better, or you'll be alcohol and I'll have another check on my jet. Like people would lose their fucking mind.

00:33:27
Speaker 2: You would think there was an affair and he cheated and it's something you know.

00:33:31
Speaker 3: I think it's really what she's saying. No, she wanted to use I think she's the mortgage so that she has a storyline. I think they got to her and were like, you, if you want to make this show pop, if you're having any problem, if you fought with him when the cameras weren't here about something, and so she looked back and was like, well, I was pretty disappointed about that bank thing, so I'll bring that up. And so I have something cooking. Besides, you know, my mom going through an illness, right, you know, is important too. But we all know the people sitting at home. Nothing makes a woman happier than to see another pretty successful woman be miserable. And so they're very happy to see that she does not have a perfect marriage. Because last year they were celebrating their tenure wedding anniversary Y're in fifty five speeches, so they're like, oh you you had two kind of a marriage for season one. So we now we are going to make it that they're gonna hate you. They're gonna tell the girls are gonna be slipping into abes dms. Besides Brynn trying.

00:34:27
Speaker 1: To get laid, how do you feel about Brinn?

00:34:30
Speaker 2: Wait?

00:34:30
Speaker 5: Can you also not for because you said you were interviewing her. I just want to make sure you finish that.

00:34:34
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you said an interviewed and.

00:34:36
Speaker 3: I thought she was great. I thought she was really nice and cool. I thought she was fine. You know, I thought you had an interesting life before. I just I was. And I was like, okay, just like make you're gonna I just hope that you're perfect family, because it really seemed like a perfect family, Like she really said, we have a great relationship, we have sex all the time, the kids are good. And I was just like, so listen, I know why people do it, and I know once they get a taste of it, it's like one in a million that the person goes after one year. I don't want to come back. I don't even know if there is one person.

00:35:06
Speaker 1: I think there was like a drug.

00:35:07
Speaker 3: Yeah, the one girl from Atlanta, and I think they fired her like first season.

00:35:12
Speaker 1: No, I don't think anyone.

00:35:13
Speaker 2: I don't think anyone.

00:35:14
Speaker 3: Has ever set up on their own on the first season. No, no way. Yeah, And so it's like I get it, and then you know, really what changed it is once people get a taste of Bravo con. I'm sorry, who doesn't want to be a rolling stone like that? I think that Bravo con is what changed the whole trajectory of housewives as reality stars. They put them on stage, they had women screaming, and they're in a different headspace. Now, how can you not be?

00:35:46
Speaker 1: Well? It is I always say every time you go to bravocon, it's the only place that you're treated like you're a part of the Beatles. It's wild.

00:35:55
Speaker 3: Yeah, but then you it's.

00:35:57
Speaker 1: Also wild to walk out of wherever their hole it, whether it's New York or in Vegas. You walk out and maybe a block and know it was a fuck about who your arm? It's a while, it's like, hold on, I want to go one block over back to where or.

00:36:09
Speaker 3: So it's just going would you like to come to this? Would you like a hooker to set your room tonight.

00:36:13
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I'm like would you like to be?

00:36:15
Speaker 3: Or they're more like, would you like to be a hooker?

00:36:19
Speaker 1: You could make a lot of money. I'm like, I grab their hand, walk them back one block, and I'm like, do you see who I am? No, it's but that's why. I also sometimes look at bravoelebrities certain ones where I'm like, you realize who we are? Right, like we got to come down from the clouds, like we are in no way unless I'm walking into sir, like yes, I'm My friends will come into town and be like can we go out? Or like I'm like, here's the thing unless you take me to one of the places. That's like I'm Mickey Mouse at Disneyland. I live a very normal life. I may have people up for like a picture too. It's great for the most part. Maybe I'm recognized, but they're like, why would I want a picture? Like what the fuck am I gonna do with it? Right? Like, I'm gonna show my friend who may or may not watch Banner Pump Roules and be like cool.

00:37:14
Speaker 3: This is always my favorite is when someone comes up to me, they'll go, can I get to get a picture? Can can I get a picture? And then she'll be like the girl will be like, he has no idea who you are? And then I have no I don't know why I'm taking this photo, like yeah's somebody. I'm like, all right, that's like it's like a weird It's like first you're like flattered, Oh thank you, Juicy Scooper, and then it's like, Okay, I don't mean the whole history. I mean, do you imagine if your boyfriend like saw some like killer basketball player or whatever, like on a Nike store or whatever at a restaurant and was like, hey, man, you and then the girl was like, I don't know what do you do? You throw a ball around? Okay, like that's gonna last. Good luck, hope you have a backup plant. And it's no one to say that and be like, oh oh cool, yeah, but god, he loves he loves your team like a girl would be nice.

00:38:00
Speaker 1: Yes, depending on how hot he is. GM later right.

00:38:04
Speaker 3: Exactly where were we we're talking about and Brent Brinn. I think Brynn has great style. I love her dresses. She gives us to a lot of red carpets. I love everybody's like clothes and stuff on the show.

00:38:23
Speaker 1: I like that they allow them to be free, like they allowed Jenna Allions last year to wear jeans to the reunion.

00:38:32
Speaker 3: Yeah. I felt like when everyone when jad Allions was introduced to us and all these people were going insane, you know, I was like, Okay, so she worked for Jake Cruz. She didn't just work for Jake crew her. She was a quain of fashion. I was like, all right, like I don't understand, Like okay, like I don't really get it. It's not my style. But happy that she's a successful woman who's in love and raising a son. Good for her whatever. I do find her like fun to watch. And but when she you know, but then everyone's like she's Jenna fucking Lions and now that's her side. What bothers me about this group is every single one of their taglines is obscenely conceited, And I'm like it just rubs me wrong, Like I could not one person can like come up with something a little clever or funny. And I know a lot of the producers write it and they have.

00:39:24
Speaker 1: Three Why date the dad when you could be mother?

00:39:27
Speaker 3: Yeah, like last week last year, it was get hold out of your daddy's or I'm going after the sun, or watch out, sons, I'm dating your dad. I don't know what it was or something I'm dating the dad, or you know, don't be mad, I'll just date your dad or something like that. Now, why they did dad when I'm the mother And then and then she's fake lesbian all the time, acting like she wants to like lick a cry.

00:39:48
Speaker 1: And let's talk about that though, because when mel but show, no, I love all of that, I love all of them. It'll never slap like O g roney, it just won't. Like none of them will ever be Derinda, none of them will ever be Sonia Morgan.

00:40:04
Speaker 3: Yeah, Richard's in the room. And you know what, these new girls, I love them, you know, I don't know, you know, I wake up every morning, I call my mother. I've got Hannah, I got the Traders, Like I know, we'll never have that, We'll never have Sonya being like I partied with JFK, Like we'll never no.

00:40:24
Speaker 1: No, what does she call him? What? She doesn't call him Johnny? No, she calls him she calls him something because.

00:40:32
Speaker 3: John John John John that was his baby name.

00:40:34
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, because Ratzy was like, no, one calls him that, and she was like, beyond defended. We'll never have a Viva, taking off her fake leg and rolling across the room like we just won't. And it is absolutely devastating. I like all the women. I relate to PSI a lot this season because she's talking about how she doesn't like therapy but she's in it and she's trying to calm the beast, and then it rears its ugly head. I get it. You know how many times I've walked onto a season, I'm like, I've changed, I'm going to be composed. One wrong move on someone else's part and I go insane and then I have deep, deep shame. But I get it.

00:41:11
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think they're all well cast and interesting. There isn't one that I'm like, you know, like more than the other. So I think it's you know.

00:41:20
Speaker 1: Let's go back to the let's go back to you talking about how Brynn is sometimes a lesbian. I'm not a lesbian.

00:41:26
Speaker 3: I'm lesbian. This is a flirting thing. Is old. It's like they some of them, I sink, Just like in Shannon Badoor. I feel like when she would always be like you know, Heather to bro and Shannon Badoor, and I felt like then they told her always say the last names, and then that became her shtick. And then for certain people that are not professional actors, they become a parody of themselves. And it's like, okay, I know that shick worked with like, I'm gonna flirt. I'm all flirt with abe, I'll flirt with da da da da. Just show me a real dude.

00:41:56
Speaker 1: You're dating Brin and I and I fully agree with you. I'm not lesbian or by, but for some reason, Raquel and Mel, the new couple that like motorcycles super fucking hot and Mel is super sexy.

00:42:09
Speaker 3: Okay, when Mel held up, Okay, when when I loved that scene domestic, real and funny with the dog with the dog, I fucking loved it. And then when.

00:42:18
Speaker 1: The she's starting to get anxious, babe.

00:42:21
Speaker 3: And then when she sucks her and she goes she's getting a little heavy, and she goes, Okay, you know this is a bad angle. Now. That was real. That wasn't trying to be funny. That was just funny.

00:42:30
Speaker 2: And I like that.

00:42:30
Speaker 3: I like it. I like those kids in a real place of like they're making steak for the dog and.

00:42:36
Speaker 1: Then they're making that weird like Pennsylvania pasta or whatever kids like.

00:42:41
Speaker 3: I thought, like, I like that too. I like seeing a real relationship that isn't the traditional man and woman like you know, the lesbians. She's late in life lesbian, like I like the girl she's funny. Yeah, I like that. So I like seeing hip today. I like seeing people you know that look different than the first cast.

00:43:01
Speaker 1: I think two lesbian housewives on the same in the same city.

00:43:05
Speaker 2: Why do you think is not?

00:43:08
Speaker 5: Because I usually just assume unless you kind of come out, especially nowadays, unless you come out as gay or straight, you're kind of by is Brinn.

00:43:19
Speaker 1: I think she's just flirting no matter who you are.

00:43:21
Speaker 2: Do we think she wouldn't date a woman? I guess that's my question.

00:43:23
Speaker 1: No, I don't think she would date it.

00:43:24
Speaker 3: I think she is as gay as I am, which.

00:43:27
Speaker 1: Okay, But I think she could get a little drunk and make out with check.

00:43:31
Speaker 3: I think it's just a flirty I just think it's a way for her to be like silly and fun and it's just her personality.

00:43:38
Speaker 1: But like, but then behind here's the thing that they called her out on. Three different cast members They called her out on your your very very friendly for the cameras and you giggle and you laugh, but then you send us text messages that you are like carbon monoxide and you won't even see you coming and you'll just kill everybody likes a little crazy, which I did.

00:44:01
Speaker 3: Was that that I interpreted the Texas different. I thought she was saying, one of you have called me carbon monoxide. She say, you I am, then you should watch out. She's well, then that's even juicy.

00:44:13
Speaker 1: I know she was.

00:44:14
Speaker 3: She was basically I have to like pause and read it.

00:44:17
Speaker 1: Yeah, she was basically saying, this is how this is how I maneuver. I'm not loud. I'm not gonna clap in your face. Someone once called me carbon monoxide. This is how I do things. I was like, that is juicy.

00:44:36
Speaker 3: That is pretty good.

00:44:36
Speaker 1: Yeah.

00:44:37
Speaker 3: I think she's clever. I think she's smart. I like her looks, and I like the way she dresses, and I you know, so she's fun to watch. Yeah, I think she's intriguing. I think it's she's I think I think it's good. At first, I wasn't into it. First episode. I was like, I don't think I could do it. Same but then you know, just when I think them out, they they lure me back in or whatever that case.

00:44:57
Speaker 1: You know what's hard about New York for me is I'm so balls deep twenty four to seven in O. G. Roney that it's hard to get me out of that. Like I just wrapped up when Bethany leaves again and I'm back at season three.

00:45:13
Speaker 3: I don't think there's anything that could make me more jealous when someone's like, righte it, I've never seen it. Is there a season I should start on? And then like someone ever does that, like in a you know, group or post, everybody's just like, I'm so jealous. I'm so jealous. I'm so jealous. Just start from the start. And I was on a plane recently and I was trying to download on Peacock the first season of New York, and for some reason it didn't try to watch Scarface, but like that's what I wanted to watch, just the way I watch the next in the City, Like I'll watch episode over and over and over again. It's like a comfort, and especially if you're on a plane, it just makes the five hours go by fast. Oh fact, yeah no, And going to New York, I want to see like New York stuff. Yeah, so that always gets me excited to like go to New York.

00:45:58
Speaker 1: The only show besides Pet. When they zoom in and he's like, welcome to New York, I'm like, I could live there. Pets and Rony.

00:46:06
Speaker 3: I'm like, it's so funny to say about pets, because that's what. I finally got to go to the Malfi Coast because ever since I saw cars too, Yeah, when the boys were little, I was like, that's where I want to go. I want to go to the Mulfi Coast and did it look just like yes? And finally I got to go this year.

00:46:22
Speaker 2: I love that.

00:46:22
Speaker 3: Such a mom thing to bring up Pet.

00:46:25
Speaker 1: It is Unfortunately I didn't have kids when I first saw it. Do Cake, Let's talk real quick because I want to get your take on this. Ali as Meredith from as Elsie's Oli Pa. She buys her things from Ali. She is a caricature of a human.

00:46:46
Speaker 3: This has been This has been a storyline for many girls that have tried to get into retail. Sonya too. It's very had clothes that were also at Target or out at places, and then she was selling it and you know, this is what I remember, So don't come at me, but I remember there was something with Sonya's stuff. Maybe not on the show, but somebody found it. And yes, Oli Baba is a big sight. You probably could explain it better than I where people could buy stuff, whether you have like a storefront or whatever, and you can put your own label on it. And so apparently that's where she got the jewel the necklaces with his jewelry with an intention like a spiritual writing.

00:47:31
Speaker 1: It's Whitney has nown Rose. Whitney Rose now is now being accused of getting her jewelry from Alibamba. And it's pretty hard to dispute it because the photo on Ali Baba is literally identical to what is shown on Prism. I don't want to isn't it called Prism? Yeah, Whitney's And it's Meredith who's being the bone collector and delivering the news about this, which she usually is attacking people's businesses. It happens every season. It's like her stick producers call, They're like, so, who's business are you attacked?

00:48:02
Speaker 4: It's your pla, oh, several thousands of dollars to an LLC.

00:48:08
Speaker 3: It's always something like that, you know, and it's like, oh God, like, don't give us too much. So this time she simplified its shock about LLC. She just said, this is not like you know, some authentic jewelers. But this has been going on like in different things where people there was somebody that cracked it open. I don't want to say so, I don't want to get sued, but they cracked open a very big designer that was selling like a box like here's your member, fad Fit. What happened to fab Fit fun.

00:48:35
Speaker 1: I don't know it. Fab Fit fund its ways the beginning curated bas okay a curate box.

00:48:43
Speaker 3: Yeah. And this person that went deep dive on it realized that you know, oh this is a you know, and you get this adorable leather bag and this is done by a mother daughter you know, designer team out in southern California or whatever. And it turned out no, it was from Ala Baba. They created a fake you know thing. So you think you're getting this a purse that you know is you're helping a small business and it's a little chic. It's not you know, Louis Vuitton, but it's like, you know, a little bit special, right, And it wasn't and so it's like there. So I think in her case, somebody came to her, just like I'm sure people have come to you in your career, and if you don't do your due diligence, they're like, here, come slap your name on this.

00:49:28
Speaker 1: Trust me, It's happened to me on multiple occasions. And then it takes you forever in a day to unwind certain businesses if you're not savvy at the beginning, right, I totally get it, and I think a lot of people actually do run their business businesses that way because it's so easy, like i Ali Baba is for those of you who don't know you. You log on and you can get things in bulk for like you can get like however many bows right, all different looks for like three ninety nine, and then if someone wants to sell those, you can mark it up to really whatever the fuck you want.

00:50:09
Speaker 5: And I understand lot it's a good way to, yeah, find it, because I do understand looking from this you're still curating what you want. So there's so much on Ali Ali Baba that like if I were like, oh, I'm going to start whatever a clothing brand, I'm like, yes, but I'm still curating, like this is my style.

00:50:26
Speaker 2: I'm getting it from.

00:50:27
Speaker 5: Ali Baba, but it's still like me, I have my spin on it. So I get why businesses do it. It's like, but it is also mass produced and not the best quality and all that.

00:50:35
Speaker 3: Yeah, but and it's not illegal. She didn't do anything illegal. But one of the things is no, she made it that this is you know, she chose items that were, you know, spiritual symbols, right, So she was saying this is spiritual, and like I would have thought hearing it if I was to you know, that there was something that went into the making of it. It wasn't you blessed you know in the Utah man. Was it some type of spiritual like blessing or like what what you know? It's you know, it's a it's a triangle like a pyramid. I don't know, Like I think that's what she was kind of marketing it as, which there you know, which again is not illegal, but like I think that's where So what what was her defense because I did not get to.

00:51:19
Speaker 1: The defense, was it's she works with designers and does curated You said, yes, she said, she's called it's called commerce.

00:51:36
Speaker 2: She's basically yeah, I was.

00:51:38
Speaker 5: She putting it on the designers, like, yeah, I just tell them what I want and then yeah, maybe they source it.

00:51:44
Speaker 1: Well she yes, she did, but she was adamant that she's not. She didn't say outright, I'm not going to Ali Baba. She said it the way you said it. She used the word to curate commerce commerce.

00:52:02
Speaker 3: Curt Curator is a word that has just been used so much in the last like three years.

00:52:09
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're right. It is just a great word. I'm still trying to figure out what the fuck it means.

00:52:13
Speaker 5: No anything has curated on it. I'm buying it most likely because it's like, oh, but what.

00:52:17
Speaker 1: Does it mean you created it with someone else?

00:52:20
Speaker 3: It means like chosen like that, like you know, with a curated menu from you know whatever makes yeah, curated and tear design, curated flowers. I don't it could be anything.

00:52:35
Speaker 1: It's just like it.

00:52:35
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just like, oh, you know, it just makes it feel special.

00:52:39
Speaker 2: It's a racket word.

00:52:40
Speaker 3: Yeah, that that draws inurate Like cocktails is a big one.

00:52:44
Speaker 5: Yeah, curated cocktails. I'm like, I'm going there and.

00:52:46
Speaker 3: By made curated cocktails natural that sounds like twenty dollars glass.

00:52:51
Speaker 1: That sounds like, no, thank you, happy, I don't drink. You know, this screams I'm not paying for anybody's alcohol when we split the oh, we ain't split an alcohol buddy. This Britney girl on Salt Lake, I'm so confused by her and why her her relationship with this Osmond guy is getting so much. She has now given two ding ding ding speeches about her and her not boyfriend. What the fuck is going on?

00:53:23
Speaker 4: Well, I do think that's the only reason she was chosen really, that she is dating the most famous For your younger audience, they might not know the Osmonds Donnie and Donnie and Marie were the had this is like they followed in the steps of Sonny and Chaer.

00:53:42
Speaker 3: So it was a variety show. It was huge. And then they had Donnie Marie who came from this big Mormon singing family and you know, they were hot, like you you know, everyone always thought there was something more going on, but clearly there wasn't their brother and sister. But yeah, they could have dated and they were like she would be like, I'm a little bit cal huntry and he's like, I'm a little bit of rock and roll, and they're really cute, and she went on to be married. They both want on to get married, have like eight kids, and they did a show in Vegas and they've been around forever. And then there were like ones that just like in a boy band where there's like the most popular one and then you're like sitting back and you're like, I know I won't get Donnie, but I could screw this person somehow. This guy is not either he's like the youngest brother of Donnie, or he's like no, I.

00:54:28
Speaker 1: Think he's like a nephew, or he's like a nephew.

00:54:30
Speaker 3: Yeah. So so anyway, I think that was some juice that she gave the producers, like I'm dating like like the most famous of the Utah Mormons, old school famous.

00:54:43
Speaker 1: Barlowe calls him the d list of the Osmonds.

00:54:45
Speaker 2: I mean, what's the same again, I just want to see what.

00:54:47
Speaker 3: There's like Mitt Romney and then there's like the Osmonds, you know, so it's like, you know, like let's go so and then but then he has been like, oh my god, like I've been used for content, like we weren't serious, like he has spoken and that I saw. I don't know if it was from.

00:55:05
Speaker 1: The show thinking that she's clearly emotionally stunted, right, Like we really spoke about it this last week that like she got into she's a Mormon, got married and had kids by the time she was like twenty, yeah, and she just doesn't really know how to hold a normal relationship that like involves kind of like friends with benefits, that doesn't she doesn't understand that, which is what most people experience in their young adulthood. It's like, all, I can't commit to you, but let's fuck on Fridays, and like you start understanding the game, right, you know when to take something seriously. I don't know how like, yes, you're you're having sex with him, but he's telling you you're his friend. She can't combine the two and go, oh, friends with benefits. She's like, but we have sex, so I'm going to cancel out the fact that he keeps referring to this as a friendship and only fixate on the sexual.

00:56:01
Speaker 3: And we've always seen him in like a FaceTime or has he done it?

00:56:06
Speaker 1: We haven't even seen him at all.

00:56:09
Speaker 3: She's shown he's message God, he's probably just like what did I get myself involved in? But next thing, you know, he's John Janssen two point zero. Next season he's dating some other chick.

00:56:20
Speaker 1: That pops around Bronwin.

00:56:22
Speaker 3: He's like once her husband gets winded, he's like, what I buy you the ugliest furniture in the ugliest clothes, and then you say that I'm ugly to screw, Like, screw you?

00:56:32
Speaker 1: Wife? Is he holding onto plans? My dad used to bring these things home. My dad was in real estate development.

00:56:39
Speaker 3: This guy is, oh, he has like architectural plans rolled up.

00:56:43
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's pretty sexy for an old guy.

00:56:45
Speaker 5: He looks like he would be someone though that goes, oh, we're friends, but yeah, let's fuck.

00:56:51
Speaker 2: He looks like, in my not to be rude, but he does.

00:56:55
Speaker 3: He doesn't want to be in the seat.

00:56:56
Speaker 2: He just yeah, I like him emotionally mature.

00:56:59
Speaker 3: Maybe, so she throws out, I'm some you know, look, the economy is tough, and she obviously wanted to be on the show. And if you're looking at like how could I get on the show, It's like, what do you have that we could latch onto? Oh? Not only am I dating somebody you know, somewhat famous adjacent, but it's also a friends with benefits And I'm clueless about it, and there's you know, some connection to cheating because fans have DM others like, of course you're gonna pick her.

00:57:30
Speaker 1: I would be shocked if this girl was on next season, but I don't know that she's not coming back. And Mary, I mean, I'm shocked that she's still back. But for the first time I actually like her. She's like really funny and likable.

00:57:40
Speaker 3: This well, now she's like stopped. She's completely abandoned her fake church and now she and the step grandfather are suing the people that supposedly ran the finances of her church, and she's suing for six point three million dollars. So I'm like, how much money did you take from this congregation in the first place that they could have squandered away six point three million dollars?

00:58:05
Speaker 1: The church is scare me.

00:58:06
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I told you I went to the church. I went to her church.

00:58:10
Speaker 1: When I went ski, did you did you prayiate?

00:58:13
Speaker 3: Like before we go to the airport, I made Peter and then we walked around with the boys and it was it was already closed up. I peered in I saw a photo of the of the mother.

00:58:22
Speaker 1: Doesn't even what do you mean? Closed up for good or like this had already.

00:58:27
Speaker 3: Got looked like it was closed up for good, and but it was full church and there was like photos of like the mom.

00:58:34
Speaker 1: Oh my goodness.

00:58:35
Speaker 3: I mean that that thing is a complete cold scam, like horrible, but she's weird and.

00:58:42
Speaker 1: Religions though, like I was googling, which means you know, if it's written, it's a fact Google. But how much these churches bring in? Like I thought the Mormon Church was hustling. I mean, the Catholic Church is bringing in in the brillians the trillions of dollars per year, and we still have homeless people and people who can't feed themselves. And you're telling me a church is bringing in trillions a year. It's fucking sick.

00:59:08
Speaker 3: You know, Christianner has a church.

00:59:10
Speaker 2: Stop it.

00:59:11
Speaker 1: You're lying to Kanye's is it Kanye's No?

00:59:15
Speaker 3: But you know it's the thing about the churches is that I would love to see they stop being tax deductible. I don't. I think that's where people there's corruption. There's a lot of good that they do, but there's a lot and so you if you can establish a church, then you can give to your own church. You can have people and your family give to your church, and then that is a deductible for them, but you're the collector at the church.

00:59:42
Speaker 1: So that's where it's the same thing with that Dance for the Devil. He had a church and she.

00:59:47
Speaker 3: Still has a church. But she did have a church. I went to the.

00:59:50
Speaker 1: Church kJ Christian.

00:59:53
Speaker 2: Yes, is it stunning.

00:59:55
Speaker 3: Well, the first when it started, I didn't ever go to the brick and mortar, but then they did get an action will place. Yeah, and they never talk about it and they never I don't know if it still exists, but.

01:00:08
Speaker 1: That is.

01:00:08
Speaker 3: But I went and she had a pastor and the pastor was good, like it was. It was like good. But you know, I'm Catholic, so I always feeling guilty about like going to anything. Like I'm like, if I'm gonna go, I need to go to like boring Catholic church. Yeah, but but there's.

01:00:21
Speaker 1: The religion, the organized religion guilt and people guilt.

01:00:26
Speaker 5: You know.

01:00:26
Speaker 3: And then he had his church, and then like schools and stuff are like you know, they they had their school, Will and Jada had a school. I don't know.

01:00:38
Speaker 2: Chris jennerture a photo of Kylie on the altar.

01:00:41
Speaker 1: Oh God with them big old lips.

01:00:42
Speaker 2: Oh my god, oh my good.

01:00:47
Speaker 1: Yeah.

01:00:47
Speaker 3: But I don't know what's going on with with that thing anymore, but at one time there was.

01:00:52
Speaker 2: You know what you do?

01:00:53
Speaker 5: You know, I guess that's like, you know, that's why people are like, it's it's your freedom, it's your right. Yes, it's there when I join the church.

01:01:01
Speaker 2: You're the dummy.

01:01:01
Speaker 1: Yeah, let me tell you. My home is my church. Your house, my house, my four walls, and my bedroom is like the temple. Right, that's like, yes, yeah, I don't want to go anywhere else, talk to anybody else, Like this is my thing. This is where I worship whatever I worship. I never feel guilty unless I lose my mind on somebody and I work through it in my house.

01:01:31
Speaker 3: Raise you up, lollas wings.

01:01:36
Speaker 2: I know that song.

01:01:36
Speaker 5: That's how you know, Like Catholicism only has a few songs in rotation, and some are hits.

01:01:41
Speaker 1: Their absolutely nothing slaps harder than this is the place.

01:01:50
Speaker 2: What is this the place?

01:01:51
Speaker 1: The Utah song that we all had to sing, a song, not a it's a state song and it's like very grant and it's like Utah people working together Utah. What she's got the trumps And I'm telling you. And then it's like it was Brigham Young who let the pie.

01:02:16
Speaker 2: Like a Christmas song.

01:02:17
Speaker 1: To be honest, it slaps so heavy. Bring them young, very Mormon weird school. You know, we're based on religion. It's the Mormon state.

01:02:30
Speaker 2: Oh, it's the heaven you ate or whatever? Right, the God Mormon.

01:02:34
Speaker 1: The Mormon Church was like founded and accepted in Utah. Everyone else ran them out of town. They're like, you're all fucking weirdos, get the fuck out of here. And then they got to Utah and said, this is the place.

01:02:45
Speaker 2: What do they call it?

01:02:46
Speaker 1: Though?

01:02:46
Speaker 2: The mother What do they call it?

01:02:47
Speaker 1: There's the Beehive State. What are you talking about.

01:02:50
Speaker 5: In the religion, it's like the Motherland? You guys don't know what I'm talking about.

01:02:54
Speaker 2: I'm losing my mind fucking out.

01:02:56
Speaker 1: We'll do a live anyway. What do you have going on before we set off? Where are you gonna be?

01:03:01
Speaker 3: Oh? This weekend? Not sorry, this weekend, next weekend. Minneapolis Fillmore Theater on October eighteenth, and then at the VIC Theater in Chicago October nineteenth. Both of those are very close to selling out. I really want to sell them down. I love the Midwest. My parents met in Chicago.

01:03:20
Speaker 1: You know what the Midwest is, young and reckless, my jack your necklace, Tony West Boom.

01:03:29
Speaker 3: I will be fine. You'll be safe at these theaters. And then and then I have Irvine Improv. November eighth, two shows, a stand up, November ninth, two shows, a stand up, November tenth, totally different live Juicy Scoop.

01:03:42
Speaker 1: And those are all at Irno.

01:03:44
Speaker 3: Yes, that's Irvine Weekend November eighth, ninth to tenth, Irvine Improv. I love performing at all these places. Honestly, I don't just say that, but my favorite place reform perform are Chicago and Irvine Improv, and so ending the year at those places. Heathern mcdonaldt net Way by the way, and see of course.

01:04:03
Speaker 1: The Funnest Show. It's so much fun. I loved doing it with you. I love doing it with you. I'm imma sure. I love your podcast. I love all of the things. So thank you for being here on such short notice. Our Ache and Relief segment we're gonna chop and actually talk about. We've had people write in.

01:04:23
Speaker 5: Yes, we've had floods of people write in about where to help for hurricane. So this isn't fact check, but I'm gonna mention a few, Okay, and you guys do your research. But a lot of these seem like good organizations.

01:04:35
Speaker 1: So I'm coming from people that are boots on the ground.

01:04:37
Speaker 2: Boots on the ground.

01:04:38
Speaker 5: Yeah, this person, Leah said, you asked for ways to help our places to make donations for victims slash survivors of hurricane.

01:04:46
Speaker 2: Is it Helene, Helene Heleen?

01:04:49
Speaker 5: Off the top of my head, these are Instagram accounts, but the link is usually there at Samaritans Purse and what is host these?

01:05:00
Speaker 1: That is a fucking great.

01:05:01
Speaker 5: One, okay, at Beloved Ashville, at boone in Chamber Again, I'll post screenshots of these at Avery Chamber, n C, at O Pair, drop in at Mana Underscore food Bank, Mana Food Bank, I'll post these there is ooh, this is a good one from Courtney. I have some information on the flooding you were speaking of yesterday. The unicoy you and I COI County Animal Shelter lost everything. They need help and she said it won't let me attach a picture, but I have lots of pictures and info I can pass along.

01:05:41
Speaker 2: I will look that up as well.

01:05:44
Speaker 5: This is someone saying thank you for sharing about Helene.

01:05:48
Speaker 2: I grew up in w NC.

01:05:50
Speaker 1: What is that? I don't know? Is that West North Caroline. I don't know that. I don't know.

01:05:55
Speaker 3: I don't know, but I will say, they don't want you cleaning out your garage and said them your old leggings. They just give money, Just give money. Yeah, they don't need more stuff, they don't spend it on shipping. Just they will get clothes with the money you give them, and they'll get what they need with the money that they don't have. The people that are organizing it and you know, yeah, but definitely check out those places. Make sure that they're legit, that they have decades of experience, and that it's not someone that's just starting it random along with their brand new church.

01:06:27
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, just make sure.

01:06:28
Speaker 3: It's like a legit thing. But give and then you know that and you know, don't waste your time packing up.

01:06:35
Speaker 1: No.

01:06:35
Speaker 2: I like the money.

01:06:36
Speaker 5: And the last too, I'll read it is from Kate and it's she just sent obviously American Red Cross.

01:06:41
Speaker 2: That's a good place to donate.

01:06:44
Speaker 5: And then blind to date live ADL I gotta check that out, but she said this is good resources, so I'll post all these excellent.

01:06:52
Speaker 1: Thank you, Jess, I love. Thank you for tuning into another episode of Give Them Alla Podcast. Remember Mondays we have the bonus episode. Regular old episodes air on Wednesdays. I will catch you next week