#248 - Tyler Farr on Being Back with New Music and His Mystery Guest + Bobby and Eddie on Musicians Who Went Broke +Robin Kimbrough Hayes for United States Senate

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Speaker 1: M HM. Welcome to episode to we'll talk to Tyler Farr and a special guest with Tyler far that we weren't expecting to show up that did. We'll talk about musicians who went broke, which meant at some point they had a whole lot of money. We'll also at the very end of the podcast have a little chat with Robin kimbro Hayes, who I met while running, who's running for a US Senate. So we've got a pretty good low episode here for you. As always as Friday, just the day we put out these now white yeah, pretty much. It's we kind of got off for a while not really knowing what day because it was who can come by since we do two a week, and it was like we'll just throw it up when we get it. But it seems like now Friday is just kind of the day, huh. New music. There are two songs from Marion Morris throughout today. They're both they're called Just for Now and Takes two? Which one do you like better? Takes two? Okay, here's Takes two and this is old stuff that she didn't put out that she ended up putting out. Yeah, so not a new project of music. It was stuff that didn't make it because what happens a lot of artists. They will cut twenty two songs and then put out thirteen or fourteen. So they have these other songs which I feel are in case they die. Then it's like they're still alive. Luke Brian shared his new song, which I was just watching the music video for a minute ago on my phone, called build Me a Daddy. So here's a lot. Could you build me a daddy? Strongest superman making timty tone with the Southern drawn and a crioked smile. If key shoot, maybe you could bring him back if I walked in with him, which you'll make mom a happy. If you could build me a daddy? Give him a bit that that song inspired by his nephew's dad dying. I didn't know that. I believe it is because he's now his nephew's dads. You could build me a dead I'm pretty sure that's what what that. I just knowing Luke in his story he's now, you know, the guardian of his nephew, and I think that's why you may look that up. Canyons, which is the debut of Gone West. It's the country band featuring Colby Calais, and here was a song called new You Have You Always been changed? This little bit make changes? I never see you? Do you? That one sounds pretty beechy for the country record they put out. Yeah, Zach Brown Band put out a song called The Man That Loves You Most. Here you go, Ali be the man Sum's gone to school his back smart turn to help you. Pulled some stories about this Luke song. Yeah, I don't look, didn't write it. No, I'm seeing it's about like a father's in a soldier type of situation. So somebody died, okay. I think in the music video it's his kids in it, So Luke's kids, right, Yeah, maybe that's why I thought there was. But Luke stories also that too, I think. Yeah. All right, all right, let's do Matt still his song called If I Was a Bar, I have a little blue and fiddling s all right, let's do I like Larkin whole a lot. I played a writer's round or at the Bluebird Cafe. I guess it wouldn't be writers around Bluebird Cafe. It's sort of like a writer's around, but you're all in the middle and you're going around, but it's a little more. I guess that's a writer's round, but it's a cool writer's round, because what a writer gen normally is you get four people up on stage and you just take turns one to three, four, then you go back to one. You tell a story and you play a song. At the Bluebird Cafe, you're in the middle of everyone, and it's a little more famous than just a regular stage, and sometimes people play with each other, you bring people. I don't know, we'll just call it a writer's gen, a cool writers roun. So I did Want with Larkin Po and their sister group. They're awesome. This is called Self Made Man. It's from their fifth album and the the The Self Made Man is the fifth album. Here's a song called Tears of Blue to Gold. They're very bluesy. I think one plays like a guitar, like a steel guitar. Another one plays another smaller instrument. But they're really, really, really good. John Prine, I remember everything came out today. It's the last song that he recorded before he passed earlier this year. I haven't done this rule before. I remember every tree, every single player of graves. It's a special place for me. Bad Land Sons. They have a new song not called Can't Look Away, which I haven't heard yet. I was like, I was gonna listen to it after this is over. What you want to hear it? Go ahead? I'm sorry, I swear I like Bad Lansons a lot because Brandon raising that band. That's why I was going to give it its own time later Today, let's do Laurie McKenna, who wanted to love junkies solo artist I mean, has written so many number ones. She has a new song out called good Fight, Still still working, look still my offside a great I'll roll the two more here. I don't want to spend too much time to playing songs, but um, Liam Gallagher from Oasis he did an EMPTYV unplugged and he's playing Oasis songs by himself, not full Oasis songs. He did like maybe one or two in the whole set. Okay, the one he ends with Champaion Supernova. Okay, Someday will find me company, boy, I can't go high anymore, can you can't? He's like, someday you will find me. Someday will find me company. Wow, that been needs too because he goes cabanied Carbon News a loans soupers. I'm only gonna do this because you put this on the list. Mike, Uh, Tyler yea your way? What Tyler Yo? Does that mean? Like Tyler your way? I don't know how what the meaning of the last name is. Has a new song featuring Post Malone called Tommy Lee of Rock Stop Stretch that Feed on My Feet. But that's not post I thought you'd have a clip post all right, there you go. I think what we should do is we should do like a top five. All we should do is do a top five new songs out this week with clips and then roll through the rest of them. Okay, you know what I mean. I think it's pretty good because we can still mention all this crap because some of us crap. But in my opinion, some people, Hey, one person's craps, another person's treasure, you know. But I'm not gonna go on. The six nine six nine has a new song with Nicki Minaj called Trolls. You know, Okay, there it is, you play you can play go ahead. See I would have played that. I would be like, that's kind of crap from my opinion. Um, So we didn't mention that one. We didn't mention the one from Norah Jones. She's got a new album out. I like Nora Jones though, but there you go. Yeah, okay, as a lot of new music. So for now on, starting next week, we'll do the top five songs with clips and then we'll throw out the rest of them. Be like, hey, this is also coming out as a list. Got it? Feel good about that? All right? Enjoy the podcast. The Tyler far conversation you're bout to here is pretty good. I like Tyler a lot. Good dude, fun interview Musicians who Went Broke with Eddie and I were talking about that um and then talk with Robin kimbro Hayes. Thanks for listening to the Bobbycast. Appreciate you guys. That by the right by what's happening, man, Hey, what's going on? A long time no talk? I know, man, I've been keeping up with you and your stories there on my Instagram on the Instagram. Yeah, Like you're so disconnected sometimes and you're only not. I see the game you're playing a little bit, so you think it's just a big play. I don't think it's a big play, but you know, you walk that line because you are legitimate out in the woods, live your country boy at local turkey hunting. But you know enough about Instagram. Do not call it the Instagram you got. Are you down in Florida right now? I am. It was my wife's birthday Saturday, and this was kind of her birthday present. I brought her down here and just to hang out. I bet she loves that you're doing an interview then on her birthday. Well, yeah, you know, it's not like, yeah, sorry, we just had a jet fly over me here, apologize about that. I've got a little nervous No, she's she's good. She don't mind. She's she's hanging by the beach. So she gives her a beach and she's happy. Is she still nursing for a lot of the COVID folks? Uh, not so much COVID folks anymore. I mean to be honest, I don't. I don't think she necesary working in the COVID unit. Still, she might a little bit, But it was when it was real tough, is uh? When back when Diffy passed away, and you know she had him as a patient right before he passed, and you know, he's a good friend of all y'all's and mine, and and she was worse. She worked like fifty hours and four days around that time, and it just, you know, it drained her so and she was just emotionally, uh, just buried in that and physically too. And she so I'm glad I got to bring her down here to let her kind of relax. She's she's earned that. She's been one of those full heroes behind the scenes. You know what you bring up Joe. And the thing about Joe was there was a conspiracy theory. I don't know if you saw it. They said he didn't have COVID at all. Did you ever see that? Yeah, I mean I saw to him about it. I don't know how true that is, because he did right. And I never spoke out because any conversation you and I had was kind of offline because I know you and I had talked to you. You mentioned it to me and so that's not my business share. But um, now that we talked about it here, I knew that he was in for for COVID or for Corona. Yet there was this weird conspiracy theory that Joe Diffy got sick and just said it was Corona. Any light you'd like to shut on that at all. Yeah, I mean, I don't. I don't know what. I don't know much about that conspiracy. I mean I heard something about it, but he definitely, you know, definitely had it. Hey, because my wife was nursed and she knows that. I'm just my whole thing with that is, I don't know why receiving a conspiracy going around. Uh well, I don't know, first of all, why you didn't make that up for something. I don't. I'm just kind of confused by that whole deal. Yeah, I mean too. Right now, we have Tyler Farr with us, and uh, I want to play a few of your number one before we get into some of the new music talk here. But here is Redneck crazy Room, Here is whiskey in my water goes down, get a little hotter, making little and here is guy walks into a bar. It goes again. She's a good Jesus. So, just a few days ago you put out a whole EP, which is a bunch of songs, the first leg body of work you put out since so basically five years. What in the world took so long? Man? It? Uh it really wasn't about taking long. I mean honestly, I was. I've been looking forward to putting out in the new music for a while because, like you said, it's been sent. I had to look it up just I got to ask that the other day. And it was two thousand and fifteen when Suffering Peace, when the album came out, my last project, UM and Guy Walks in the Bar. Uh, my last hit was UM. So it's been five years ago, it feels like twenty years just because you know, you got the anxiety and we just overthinking stuff. But man, it was a spot. We went through some change over Sony. There was some people, you know, a lot of um, a lot of job change going on. Different different roles got swapped out and stuff, and you know how that goes. And it was just kind of a weird time. And I got to a spot where I needed to move on and I wanted to the next stuff I wanted to put out. I didn't I didn't want to mess around anymore. I wanted to do what I wanted to, uh like, put out the stuff I wanted to because I didn't feel like I was getting to for UM the last the last couple of years of the last few songs, and put out that we were kind of going getting off track, um and not doing you know my stuff. Um. Now I wanted to be with the right producer and the right label. I knew I didn't need to be there anymore. Was time to move on. And Jason out An, he was over his house and he had mentioned it, and you know, kind of thought he was joking, because that's not you know, usually something you bring up while you're having tea and uh, cocktails whatever. Um, but it's not like, hey, I'll start a label, I'll sign you tomorrow. You know, that's usually something that just gets thrown out there. So but he was serious and I signed with him, and uh, it's been what how I want to work where I can feel comfortable with Broken Bow and Night Train Records started in France. It's just it's just a lot easier. So it's I want to be in the right spot, right headspace, and I'm there now. So I'm glad to just get music out for the fans. And finally after five years, it is the first music via Jason al Dean's Night Train Records. Does he have anybody else yet or is he banking it all on you? And if you go down he loses all the property, all the bank account, all that. I don't the good thing. I think you've got enough money where Donna put all the chips on me, which I like because that's a hell of a lot of pressure. But no, he doesn't have anybody, and I'm fine with that. I think he's just you know, ride ride old Sea Biscuit over here and just keeping a one man band. Nice. I'm gonna play a little bit of let's see only truck in town. Let's see if we like this one makes me all right? The verdicts in yeah, I like it. I was worried. I was worried wouldn't, but I do. I like it, so rest of shared Tyler, Well, thank you, man Um. You know it is nervous, though you're you're joking about that. You know it's fine, but it is nervous. He was nervous for me releasing the CP and the first single. You know I've released in a while. Getting back to the business side now, as you know, I've kept two ring over over the past you know, four years. I haven't just been sitting at home, you know, milk and goats and stuff and making so I've been traveling, you know, the country playing shows. Just I've been away from the business point, so it was nerve wracking putting stuff out. Uh, you know, because I don't know, I've been away from it for a minute. I was like, I hope they liked me. I hope they'll like me, you know that whole thing. You know, it's always weird when people put out new music, and I'll get hit up. I never listened to anything because that's a slippery slope for me. But they'll go, hey, here's a song. Tell me what you think, and that means here's a song, tell me what what you like? Right, because I just can't imagine you would send a song out not to one of your like closest people, but someone in like your secondary circle. I would say, I mean like your secondary third dary circle. Tyler like me and you you know you you you'll text me, but we don't hang out on Fridays or anything like that. But if we did, it wouldn't be weird. But we don't. Um. But if you say, if you send me a song and you were like, hey, what do you think about this one? Has anyone ever been like, dude, it's not from this is not good. This is a big pile of crap on any song you've ever sent out like that? Uh yeah, And I have a perfect example sitting right here next to me. He's the he's the king of doing that, and he don't. He's not even nice about it. It's my producer, Boundine. I'm over here at his place and he's sitting there with me that you talked to him. But I'll send him song I swarted. I wrote my eye tail off for this album before I knew we were going into produce Jasance. I get on a book, start writing. You know, I'm not telling I'm not telling you. I'm not gonna I ain't gonna say I love stuff that you're sending me just because you wrote it, showing up. I sent him to him. He's like, and listen, literally, this is the email I get back after sending this masterpiece of a song I thought, and it just simply says one word, and that's nope. You know, It's just it's that's why I record these songs like damn good friends, just because of the friendship we have to where you send them, pour your heart out, you get vulnerable with him, and then you get an email back that says Nope, is Jason there with you right now? Yeah? You want to talk to the produce not every day. You got the producer right there next to the artist. Let me talk to the head of Night Train Records for a second, Jason Aldean, I put you on here at the CEO. Hey, what's up? Bobby? Hey? So, why in the world would you invest in Tyler Farr Well? I mean, Tyler toured with me for a couple of years, and I actually met him. I think the first time I met him was that the b m I Awards one year and he was getting ready to go out on tour tour with me like the following year, I think. And so, man, we went on on for a couple of years to hit it off. And I just always thought from the you know, from Red Knick crazy the first time I heard that, I just thought he had a really unique thing about his voice, and and just you know, I think in Nashville people are always saying, you know, you know what, what sets you apart from everybody else? And I think for him, it's it's pretty easy to hear it when he's singing. So I just thought he always had a really cool saying about his voice. And I always thought that when the songs were right, it was it was really really cool what I felt like, you know, for a while there he had kind of gotten off track of what it is that he does best. And and really for me, you know, signing him and talking to him, and I feel like I know him as well as anybody, and I felt like, you know, we could get in the studio and record stuff that was that was him. That kind of got back to so what it is. But I felt like he does the best and and so that was that was really the main thing. When you're producing him, will you tell him, hey, dude, just go a little higher here, or you'd be like, hey, you need more guitar, Like what does Jason I need the producer do? Um? Well, I mean I'm in there. You know. For me, it's it's songs. I mean, funding songs is a big part of it. Um. Sorry, I gotta dude with a blower out here. But where are you guys? Even there's a plane flying over and there's a blower blowing you guys. Yeah, we're We're actually in my garage at my house out of Florida, and uh, somebody's doing yard work across the street, it sounds like, I mean, I'm gonna have tylerk over there until the just chill out for like in minutes. But anyway, UM, so no, I mean for me, it's finding songs. I mean, that's the that's the huge part of it for me, is it's finding songs that I feel like I righte and uh, things that that are gonna work for for him. And when I'm cutting my own records me as well, and um, and then going in you know, on the track and side of things, making sure that the music is is cool and edgy, and then on vocals, I mean I kind of beat him up pretty good and they're cutting vocals and making sure vocals were right, and you know, and and a lot of times, I think whenever you do something different, you know, Tyler had always recorded a completely different way than the way we do things, and so, um, you know, the first couple of times we went in, I think he was he didn't really know how we did things, you know. And and so I think after getting a couple of songs cut and him here in the final version, I think, you know, he finally kind of saw where we were, where we were going, and how we did things, and we kinda want him over that way, and and from then on out it was it was great. But you know what I mean, I'm I'm a perfectionist in the studio a little bit, especially when it comes to two vocals and and just how things should sound. And and uh so I beat him up pretty good in the studio. You're betting on him, though, Jason Aldean is betting on Tyler far I am, man. I you know, I think, uh, I think Tyler is a great artist. Man. I think he's a great singer and and great live performer. And um, you know, the one thing I still like with people, you know, once they always tell people it's like if you ever get in a room with him, you know, he wins you over. You know, it's like you may not even know him yet, but once you get in the room and just talk to him for a little bit, I mean, he's just one of those guys it's hard not to like. And and um, you know, and and just being you know, really good friends with him. I mean it's just, uh, I think on the other side of it is like, you know, on one side, it's like you want to help out your buddy. On the other side. It's like, you know, I believe in him as an artist too, obviously, or I wouldn't have, you know, wouldn't have started the label. And it was something I kind of wanted to do eventually at some point. Anyway, Um, this just kind of split up the process a little bit and just kind of made us put it into gear. So right now he's he's the only guy we got. We're kind of focused on him and and getting things up and running for him, and then we'll kind of expand down the road there. He is CEO of Night Train Records and producer to Tyler Farr. Hey, Jason, good to talk to you too many Good we got more to talk about with Tyler. Man. This sounds like a tractors hole here. I mean, does it make you feel like you're back in Arkansas? Hey? Listen, and my house has all yard noises. I work from home most of the time, and now that I it's just all the time. So hey, let me ask you this. I saw on Instagram. You were a Turkey outing. How's that going? Uh? Well, season's over, and I'll be honest with you. My wife was ready for Turkey season and oh my gosh, she was. She I heard her saying it when she is on her knees praying before bed. One night you floored and to make turkey teas and the end early my house looks like a redneck frat house. Your beef jerky laying on the table, cant of dip mountain dews. I mean, I had buddy, three of my buddies from Realtree staying at my house for two weeks, and so so do you have to feed them when they're stay in your house for two weeks? Are you also paying for dinner? I do? I mean, I don't have to, but I like, I like entertaining people. I'm I'm a people pleaser and I like to make people happy and tell jokes. And it was awful goodness to get it was one of my good best friends from Georgia, and I hadn't got the turkey hunt was it in a while. And you know that whole thing about this pandemics like when something looks like really bad going on, you can either sit and poud about it and and wine and moan and go oh my god and go full e or or you can like make the best out of it and actually make something really good come out of it, and for me, that was being able to be outdoors and take some time just to think by myself and catch up with friends. And I normally wouldn't get to spend time with turkey hunting, so it was it was good for me, and I did tag out. I ain't done that in like five years, but I think I turkey hunted every week about five days a week. So if I enjoyed it, my wife not so much. I've got two more questions for you, speaking your wife. I saw with a gamer headset and a controller on your Instagram. Do you guys play video games together or is she just a gamer? No, she does not play video games. I just thought it was funny. I was on there playing uh. I think it was on that there was a couple of songwriters all there. I was playing with on like Call of Duty, and I was like, honey, uh don't put take take the game here. I gotta go pee. And I was like, hey, guys, my wife's gonna get on here. She's like they I don't know what to do. So I put her on there and I just had to get a picture of it, and then I put again a candidate by and make her look like that, are you gonna stop dipping? Though? For real? I I get it, you've been doing it. It's but when are you gonna like put a bosch on that I need to. I mean, you're kind of going throughout my wife takes with me. You're kind of sound like my wife here because she gets on me. She's like, you need to stop that and listen. I'm not one of those guys like, oh, oh crap, if I'm so country red neck. Kiss you know I've been different since I was three. Trust me, I know I have a problem. I know it's not healthy. I want to stop. I did stop one time for about a week, and you're gonna think I'm joking, but look it up. Only in that I was hallucinating. I withdraw all so bad. I saw cats. Now we do have a lot of cats in my house, but I was seeing like twelve and when we have four. I'm not lecturing you because I also probably eat too much sugar at times. I probably do as well. I'm just asking if, in your mind, if there's a point where when kids come along, when you're like, I need to stop dipping for the well being of not just for me, but for others. Yeah, No, I'm glad you said that because that's the one thing that I feel like over the years matured. I don't think I'm a full maturity level. I don't know if I ever will be. My life praised for it, but we just don't note. Um, I think the kid thing because we just we just started, uh, I want, I don't want to say trying to have kids. We just recently made it, uh made ourselves able to have kids. Um, it's a weird way to say it. Oh well, I want to say how I would say, we she pulled the goalie. Okay, we gotta we gotta open that there. We got a penalty shoot out. But no, and I really look forward to being a dad and stuff. And that's the one thing that will get me to you know, put it. I mean, that's not like a choice for me. That's a absolutely not different when we have a kid. All Right, listen, I'm gonna let you get back to vacation. Um, we we're gonna do and we'll leave all this in the podcast. We're gonna do this on the podcast. We're gonna do this on the radio show. We're gonna do this on I'm gonna feature you in next week's National Countdown as well. So what I want you to do is just that up your song. So let's say I'm doing the countdown because we do cut ins, I'd be like, all right, Tyler Fars here, Uh, Tyler, tell me about your song here that we're gonna feature called only Truck in Town? All right, and then I'll go in after that. Yeah, and then you're going and you you actually do what I said. You want me, you want me do it right now? Yeah, we'll do it again. Here we go, we go all right on with us right now? Is Tyler far He's our spotlight Artist of the Week. It's got a new EP called Only Truck in Town. And that's what this song is. To Tyler talking about the song and this song, uh is the song me and Jake's and out. Then we picked this song to be the first single and uh to be the title of the EP, Only Truck in Town, because we first heard it and just instantly thought it was a hit. It was something you could sing to, was rocket science. It was just ninety nine on our fastball, right down the middle, just country music, country love song. My people, my fans can relate to it and that's as simple as that. All right. Here he is Tyler Farr. Follow him on Instagram at Tyler far with two rs only truck in town here on the country top thirty. All right, that's how we do it, hey, Tyler. Good to talk to you, Bud. When everything gets back to normal, I'd love to see again and uh be safe down there. Tell Jason, I said, hello, we'll talk to you soon. Yeah. Man, I'll just happen to become Jason. So I text Micla, So I was like, Bob, we care if I put Jason on and I'll be at this house from all on doing this. I didn't even know. I had no idea that you were over there. I knew that you were underneath an Air Force base and apparently there was a lawn championship happening next door. That's all I could figure out. Yeah, we were tanning by an Air Force base, stace that was doing moulching. All right, man, I'll talk to you soon. He thank you, You're welcome, see you later. Thanks, thanks, thanks for doing this. I appreciate it, all right. See dude, So I have Eddie back on with me to talk about these famous musicians who went broke because I think the association is if you're if you're famous, you're rich, and that's not always the case. I hate this subject, by the way. It makes me feel so bad for these people. Why because they just blew their money. Well, some of them blew their money. Other people just got screwed. Well. Willie Nelson is one of those people. File for bankruptcy in nineteen had one of the highest tax bills in history. A federal investigation revealed he had sixteen point seven million dollars in In fact, so did we ever get like the story of like did he just forget or he knew? What? How did that go down? Well? His lawyers able to negotiate the bill down to six million dollars in cash, but he still couldn't afford it. The I r S rated his Texas home. They raised did they seized his assets. He lost everything except four do you know no trigger? His guitar. The guitar lost everything except for trigger, and he just had to start over. He made a bizarre deal with the I r S. The revenue from his next album would go towards his debt. He's set up and went on tour, recorded his album. The I R S tapes, who will buy my memories to help put the bill? He managed play all of his debt by is continue to release music ever since. But I don't know what happened. If he just didn't pay tax I'm assuming that's it. He just went a lot of years making money and not paying taxes, right, But he had no one saying, hey, Willy, you know that we have to pay taxes on all this stuff. Well, the only time you get someone to tell you that is when you hire someone to tell you to tell you that. Like I now in my life have someone because I have to pay percentages to people. I mean, we do reaging, DA shows or comedy, have agents, and if I didn't have a business manager, I would be in charge of paying all that and my taxes because on necking track of it is hard. I understand that, Like, especially when you have income coming from different directions, it's hard to keep track of that. But I don't know. I would just assume that Willie, at the height of his career, would have someone. Well you also have to understand too that whenever you have and you have this a little bit, but what I have have a lot of jobs that don't take taxes, out of my money. Now our radio jobs do we get a paycheck taxes taken out. But when I'm touring stand up or comedy or writing books or that money comes straight to me. And if I didn't want to, if I did, it was like no taxes would go in and eventually they'd be like, we need all that money back. But Willie Nelson is a hundred percent that he doesn't have a job that takes the taxes outum, so people forget about that. Sometimes they're like, how does Aaron Carter have a million dollars in tow? Well, nobody's taking it out. He the guy's probably I'll get to that eventually, And you never do. Mc hammer, Oh this is a bad one. He had an estimated worth about thirty three million dollars when he released the album Please Hammer don't hurt him. His success didn't last long because in he filed for bankruptcy protection. I said he was ten million dollars in debt. He went broke because basically he employed two hundred people, five dozens of luxury sports cars and airplanes. He also spent thirty million to build a home in a twelve acre land plot in Fremont, California, so he spent thirty million to build the home. The house was later sold for six point eight million. What do you think, friends, his entourage just came from nothing, went too hard, went back to nothing, and is now rebuilt back up somewhat. I think he's doing all right now right when he's I think he's a preacher and has some money now. But yeah, you hire two hundred people, Listen, I got like four people. That's breaking me. Yeah, but we all charge you a lot. He's this is what Hammer said. He said this to Oprah. His bankruptcy wasn't due to frivolous spending, but rather expanding his business too quickly. So, um, you know, it could be both. When you're building a house that big that that's not it's probably a little bit of both. Um. A fun fact on the mc hammer pants. Hammer pants are customized modified baggy pants suitable for hip hop dancing. By the way, when I bought some at Walmart when I was like eleven, Hammer popularized the pants while wearing him during live concerts. He had his own outlandish amber pants costume made as well. Vanilla Ice boasted that he got paid one million dollars by his record label for wearing hammer pants during a show. Wow, the hammer pants are a big deal. They were a big big deal. You really wore him as a kid, though, Like, yeah, I got something at Walmart Red Ones. I saved up bottom. They weren't really hammer pants, but yeah, I have a pair of my closet still from Dancing with the Stars because I did mc hammer twice as he did the dance. Love him, Billy Joel. He declared bankruptcy multiple times. His most famous one his former manager, Frank Webber, siphon thirty million from him for personal loans and dicey business investments, none of which Billy Joel was aware of. I mean, that's what gets you too, when you trust somebody and they're not trustworthy. This thing Or filed for bankruptcy, but he lost more than just a large sum of money. He had been Billy Joel's brother in law and also the god daughter to his the godfather to his daughter Alexa. So how can you not trust someone like that thinking they would do the best with your money. He's sued Howeber for ninety million. I don't know how much he got from that, but he's okay as of an owl like he's bounced back. As of today, he's worth about two five million dollars. Oh, then that's okay. Well it's not okay because you should never have money stolen from you. But I'm saying he's not eating rice and beans right now to fill his belly. He's ye Mick Fleetwood. Well, I don't know this one. What do you know about Mick Fleetwood. He's just Fleetwood Mac, part of Fleetwood Mac. Mick Fleetwood's a drummer for Fleetwood Mac. You know the song here, you know the album. Rumors would have been enough to set him for life with royalties, but he spent his money quicker than he got it. He bought millions of dollars in real estate and the old C word. We can't say that. You can say, okaine several dollars per month, like thousands, thousand, thousands per month um. This is what McK fleetwood said about eight million dollars in cocaine is what he spent. What? Uh? And okay, okay, So I think this could be taking the wrong way, but it is parties, probably cocaine parties. This isn't like his addiction where he had to just do that over and over by his own estimate, Fleetwood's years of nose candy consumption cost him roughly eight million dollars and all of his money was gone. It is crazy file for bankruptcy to take him almost ten years to get back on speed again. He's been clean sober since nine Wow. Crazy huh? Even next step like next level stuff. He was supplying Pablo Escobar Like that's that's just crazy to me. Like that that the connection because I mean cocaine he was inadvertently. Yeah, I would assume there's probably some there. Eight an eight million dollars back then is a lot more than a million dollars now. By the way, correct ted nugent. Maybe you know cat scrash, fever horse the news. He never indulged in drugs or alcohol, so his was hunting and running a quote camp for kids, okay, camp for kids. Unfortunately, still broke. He found himself after his managers invested a bunch of his money and all kinds of stuff clide Clydesdale horses, mink farms. He declared bankruptcy in nineteen eighty but recovered. He's still busy today. At two thousand three, was host of a reality television show called surviving nugent. Is he the n r A guy. He's a big higu alright, He's been married twice, his eight kids, he's worth twenty million dollars. But yeah, it's just people invest in his money for him. But by the way, you have you hire people to do that. But when they're going hard on the mink farms, you're probably like, hey, are you sure about this? Marvin Gay you would know from let's get it on m hmm. Come on. He filed for bankruptcy after falling behind on alimony payments in v six and said, hey, you gotta pay your ex wife six hundred thousand dollars from royalties from an upcoming album. He filed and that was a whole je mean, and then he died. You know, he was shot and killed by his dad. He still loaded a bunch of money in backup. Yeah, his dad killed him. A't that crazy? Yeah? What's that story? Do you remember exactly how that went down? Remember there was a fight or something like hot water like boiling one. You know, I bet Mike can find it real quick. I don't want to say the wrong thing because I get trashed on it. But yeah, we're known to do that don't let me take creative liberty with history. TLC was super popular in the nineties. T bas Left Eye Chili. They were killing it, but they filed Chapter eleven bankruptcy July third. The declared debts total three point five million dollars. A lot of the debt came from Left Eyes insurance payments from the arson incident in h is that with the Atlanta Falcons receiver Andre Risen Andre Risen? Wow? And then they was a bad deal. That's it, bad record deal, So so just didn't look at the deal right and then signed a bad one and didn't get paid for stuff. Cindy Lauper now she's worth thirty million bucks, but she had a rough start. She had to file for bancrust before she made it big. She obviously has the songs like girls Just Want to Have Fun and um, but this is before that. She was in a group called Blue Angel. The band's first and only album was a flop, and to make managed worse, their manager sued them for eighty thousand dollars. This force Lawfer to file for bankruptcy. One she's saying in a Japanese restaurant, dresses a geishaw and worked in retail before she released her hit album She's So Unusual in nine Amazing, and now she's now she's doing psoriasis commercials on one of those. Good for her. And I think the Kinky Boots, Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think I know what you're talking about. She wrote that's all. She wrote that the music for Kinky Boots, so she would have made a ton of money from that. And I think she's still collapsed with like other people and still tours, well, not now, but I think she still plays performs. Did you find the Marvin Gay stuff? Mike? I just said his dad shot him in the chest after an argument. Yeah, does it? Mentioning about some hot water? Maybe they meant like he was in hot water and thinking about that fifty cent. He's earned at leastwo hundred and sixty million dollars from everything he has spent lavishly, the especially on real estate, cars, and lawsuits, which caused him to file Chapter eleven and two thousand fifteen. He filed Chapter eleven and side a thirty six million in debt in less than twenty million in assets. That'd be like, you know, sixteen negative. Yeah, the rapper file for bankruptcy right as he was ordered to pay Lestonia levist and nearly seven million after he released a sex tape without her permission. So I guess he put out one of him and her and he didn't get the permission, slip sign or what. She didn't take it home with her. Yeah, he's brought a bunch of money now about thirty million, but he was worth a hundred and fifty million at one point. I don't know, man, I I try to understand it, but I don't understand that lots of cars. I just don't. I don't understand that me either, but people will say to me, I don't understand the lots of shoes, and I have lots of shoes. What's your most expensive pair of shoes. It's not even closed to a car, might even close to focus. My point is, though, is that we were not comparing them all money, because money is different for everybody. I got. I got that that some people don't understand. I don't understand all the cars, but I do understand a lot lots of shoes, but people like I don't understand. It's a different. I guess if you love cars, you probably want a bunch of cars around you. I don't know anything about cars. I don't know. I just can't imagine what we talked about this. I can't imagine when someone has like fifty plus cars. I mean, you're not are you driving one of those cars every single day? Or should you go a whole year? And you know what, I forgot to drive that car. I went to a guy's house who owns the tackle app, and he has like five cars, millions of dollars in car. But he's just a collector and he has a bunch of money, and he's like, I got a bunch of money. I give a lot to people. And my thing is I love cars. Everybody has a thing. I love shooting. I wish I loved cars and could buy a whole bunch of them. That'd be awesome. But I don't even love cars. So teeth paining, Like yeah, yeah, tea pain. I went from having forty million of the bank to having to borrow money to get his kids burger king. Really yeah. I did interview with the Brex Club and he said once he had forty million at the height of his career. Then he had so little he had to quote borrow money to get my kids urger king. It was bad. Investments and other bad spending habits. He's doing much better now, he says. But he won the mass Singer on the first season, which kind of repopped him a little bit. I don't know if he's won the other seasons, but that was a big thing for him, they think for anybody, because that show was blowing up. Meat Loaf had to file for bankruptcy in the eighties. Forty five lawsuits day he back in eighty three, he said, had forty five lawsuits tolding eighty million dollars thrown at me. What heck was he doing to have something lawsuits thrown at Why did he get sued so much? He doesn't talk about that because every time we'd get one case, it's a miss, I throw another at me. Yeah, I want to talk about it. It's probably over it. This song that was still kind of a jam I do anything? What One of these days, I'm gonna listen to that song and pay attention to the lyrics because I still don't know what he won't do. I think, but stuff? Is that what it is? Because that's in my mind that I'm sure that's not what I go back and listen to him, like sure enough, Bones you're right, but stuff they asked him and he said no, and then they kept asking, so he wrote the song We pull up an all interview. It was like, you know, it was me and Teresa and the year was nineteen seventy two and we were, you know, we had a little too much to drink. We've done a little drugs, and she was like, hey, you want to and I was like, I don't. I don't want to do that. And so she came to the next day said we were they're getting together or you're gonna do it, And he goes, I went to a room. There's an old piano, and I sat down at it, and this is what came out. Anything he love. He goes, The original name of the song was but stuff quote before do that. The label didn't love the idea of that. Um. Alright, alright, check out Eddie's podcast at you talking about that? Yeah, The Sore Losers were a sports podcast, but let's be real, there aren't a lot of sports going on right now. Just three guys, me, Lunchbox, and Ray. We talked about our lives and we all do live very different lives. So it's it's a fun show. We get to have a lot of fun doing it three days a week, Monday, Wednesday, and Friday. Coming up next, I'm gonna talk to Robin kimbro Hayes, running for the United States Senate. I know this music podcast, but I decided to have her on because I was running and I saw her and we started talking. And if you wanna hear my conversation with her talking about all kinds of stuff. She's running for senate, why uh talking about the protests that are happening. And I was trying to find a way to connect it to music. And here's what I've connected to it ready, Eddie. I was listening to music when I saw her, perfect and I took it up. But I just thought it was interesting. I was like, hey, let me interview, and I thought it was a pretty good conversation. So it's not a political podcast, but um and I it's just what she's running on. So check it out if you want. If not, cool, Okay, we're on now with Robin kimbro Hayes, who is running for senate. But I guess I met in a really odd way. Hey, hi, Robin kimbro Hayes. You have three names. I don't know what to call you honestly, Well, I am Robbing Kimbro. Hey, I'm on the ballot as Robin Kimbro. I just got married to the full man named what do your friends call you? Robin? They call me Robin. Okay, Well three names is always confusing to me because I didn't know if, like, your first name was Robin Kimbro or well, uh, Robin Kimbro. Hayes, it is a pleasure to have you on. I mentioned that we met in a pretty odd way as I was finishing up a run and it was really hot this day, and I'm struggling, and I look over and you have a big smile on your face and you're like all right, and you're looking into a phone and you know a friend of yours is recording you, and you're like, all right, we can do it. We can get together. And I look over at you and I go, hey, that's awesome. I don't even know what you're talking about, but I'm into it because that's a there's a lot of positivity happening there. What exactly were you talking about over in the field. Well, I want to first say that that person film with me was my son Adrik Avid. Golfer, and so he was helping me to make a campaign video. So we were wreaking a video about how we need to mooove the needle um in Tennessee on issues that are really important to me and I believe to Tennessee. And my thing for my campaign is passion for Tennessee, and I believe that we're to put this seat um. Just with the Senate, we need to have a candidate who is going to inspire people with energy and passion to get out to vote. But I just don't bring energy and passion. But I bring a whole set of skills to handle this job as United States Senator. I'm a lawyer and I'm a chaplain, so I know how to draft legislation, i know how to read policies, and I've argue cases all across the state of Tennessee. And as a chaplain, I know how to sit with anger, suffering, and fears and even during times of of joy and excitement. So that's what I was talking about on that rock I was standing on. Well, when you see me come running by and I like wave at you and I'm moss sweaty, Are you like, what is this guy even doing? Right here. Well, I'm going to make sure that I wighed at everybody that passed by. UM, I'm a friendly person anyhow, And that's that where your job is kind of like the Greenway area and UM, and so we're pretty familiar with with that space. But I caught a lot of attention out there and I said, hey, UM, this message is exactly what I wanted to be powerful, engaging and getting people excited. And UM, I'm glad that I inspired you to allow me to share with your listeners today. Well, so let's talk about your background a little bit. So you're an attorney. Where did you go to school and what kind of law did you study. I went to Emory School of Law UM, and I ended up practicing in the public sector of law because I have a calling to do service. So I worked for the Attorney General's Office here in Tennessee and I also worked for the Department of Children's Services. I've been a decade of doing work with THEE with a with the Tennessee Coalition to End Domestic and Sexual Violence, where I drafted policy UM conducted training all over the state of Kindnessey on issues related to domestic violence and sexual assault. But what's really exciting about my background is that I grew up in a trailer park and elected to Kentucky. And if it had not been for that trailer park, I don't think I would have the passionate energy I have now to run for this seat. The trailer park taught me have to stretch resources and make lots out of a little. And it also gave me the drive to go college assist and Emory school ball. But most of poorly, it taught me that no matter what the situation is, there is still hope. And it's that same fight that can hope that got me out of the trailer park that I want to bring to Washington as the United States Senator for the state of Tennessee. You know, I think we have a lot of similarities. I also and a former trailer park kid, and so it's my producer, Mike with We have three trailer park kids all here hanging out with each other. Oh my gosh. I have met so many people on this journey who grew up in the trailer park. I talked to um Um, a constituent in Knoxville, and we were sharing about the trailer park and we kind of had like a really quick moment of silence. UM. Because both of our trailer park situations were very difficult. And I will say that most people who grew up in the trailer park it really had some really hard UM struggles. UM would added to my struggle not just the the priority issues, but I also my mother and I were also the only African Americans in that trailer park. And um, and so I was. I was five years old when moved in the trailer park, and I was going on seventeen when we moved out. So even in the midst of that, I was able to build community and and relationships. And it was some white folks in that trailer park that stood up for my mother and myself. And if it had not been for them, UM, we probably would not have made it out of the trailer park. So UM, that's what it's all about. It's all about not only being in the ally, of being an accomplice of getting down in the fight, um for social justice and and moving the needle on the systemic issues that we see going on in our country today. You talk about social justice, do you feel with what's happening now? Are you seeing the needle move to a place that you think it will actually stay moved. That's a that's a really good question, because sometimes these issues UM come in waves. But I really believe and I'm hopeful that this that the needle is moving. So in UM the news, you've probably seen UM that on this Senate or the Congress floor. Now UM that we have UM legislation UM called the Justice and Policing Act, and that Act is a really big deal. And one of the things that that Act does it removed the UM cloak of qualified immunity. That is a huge deal. So when you remove qualified immunity on Section three cases, particularly against police officers, that is a very radical move and it needs to happen. Qualified immunity is a creature of case law by the Supreme Court, and now UM Congress is taken in taking it under and and and and making and doing some revisions to that. Actually they're getting rid of it. And what qualified immunity does is essentially protect police officers from being to civilly for some of the actions that we've seen UM with with George Floyd and Brianna Taylor and here in Nashville of Daniel Hambrick and Jack McClements. So UM that removing that UM qualified immunity is going to allow more accountability with police behavior. And I'm really hoping that the statue would pass because it will also include UM progressive led station regarding UM policing in terms of wearing body cameras and UM and requiring independent investigations of these of these matters, and and and and additional training for police officers. So I think this is a really important piece of legislation. If it gets past, I believe the country is going to be moving in the right direction. But I will say this to everyone that if this legislation does not get passed from this go around, when I become Unit Center, I'm going to continue to fight UM for justice and policing, and I'm gonna fight for the anti lynching UM legislation that's also on the heel of this time. So I really am hopeful that the needle has been moved, and it's being moved because we see a it's a new time. We're a pivotal stage in our history and our country, and we need to act upon it. Now. We can see now that this movement involves all people. We have people from all walks of life, all races, ethnicities. It's an intergenerational movement because they're, in the words of Fanny Luhimer, they're sick and tired of being sick and tired, and they want to change the culture of our nation just like I do. They want to take back the rule of law, they want to take back democracy, and we need leadership that that's going to work with the movement that has happened now in our country. So I'm personally excited about it. I'm hopeful that we don't definitely move the needle on where we need to go in terms of breaking the cycle of hate and ending systemic racism in our country. Doing Black lives matter and the saying and people say it, uh, and then you have people tweeting back or hashtagging back all lives matter, and it almost now has become a political thing, which is odd that it's almost a political thing to say one thing to reply back with an all lives matter, Um, how do you feel about Black lives matter and where it stands? And a lot of the folks that are coming going, well, no, no, all lives matter. Where where do you stand on that? This is a great question. I just had this conversation with my son this morning. When we talk about black lives matter, what we're saying is that reclaim where we are claiming the humanity of being a black person in America. And as we reclaim our humanity, it does not deny the humanity and someone else's. It is saying that we matter. So let's look at this historically. When when our country was founded, Um and I'm gonna talk about this in terms of voting, Okay, So only white men who own property could vote. Okay, So a poor, poor a poor person who's white, Um, and I'm letna speak about in that context could stand up and say, well, poor people matter. Okay, they're reclaiming their humanity, their rights as a citizen of the United States. So then all white men could vote. So women were saying what white women that are? Okay, And here we have another group of people, slaves, black black lafe during the time, who are counted as three fifths of a person. That means they weren't even counted as a full human. Then as things progressed, Um, black men got the right to vote. And then white women and black women got together and they said we matter and we deserve the right to vote. It doesn't when when when that When that messaging comes out, it does not deny who someone else's but it is a group claiming who they are. And I love to get the theological here, but I won't. But claiming who they are and who they are in humanity and in creation and so um so. Women did eventually get the right to vote, but still we see, as as history has progressed, still see this systematic, systemic oppression within our community. And what are saying is the black lives matter. It matters when black people are killed by a police officer, It matters when Ahmad Aubrey was shot down run over by a truck in the middle of the streets while he was jogging. We matter. We just our lives are just as as important as anyone else's. And so Black Lives Matter is not packing a humanity or power from anyone else, is actually reclaiming power for uh our community. And this is why the mayor had Black Lives Matter painted in the street all the way to the White House, because it is a statement that we matter, our voice counts, we exist, and when we claim black lives matter, we claim that everyone matters. Because I believe that all this oppressions we're seeing in systemic racism is the reflection of much of the oppression that we see in our community, whether it's oppression based upon raised, gender or class. UM. So, so please, I hope people understand the black lives matter. You're claiming, Hey, that this person just like me is human too and there and they deserve to be valued in terms of not being killed by police officers, UM, not having UM having health insurance, like, I believe that people who are uninsured, their lives matter. And this is why I'm for medicare for all. So I believe that all of this needs to speak to all the layers of oppression in our community. So this is why we got white people saying black black lives matter, because they know is they claim the humanity of another person, they claim the humanity of all of us. Well, said Robin kimbro Hayes. She is running for United States Senate. She'll be on the ballot August six. Now there is early voting July all the way through August one. That's right, right, that's exactly That's exactly right. And I ask that you please vote for me. I'm a progressive candidate. UM. Not only can I speak to these issues, but I'm going to bring action. I care. I have a I have a care about all people, and I have a wonderful platform that will change the culture of our nation as we look at healthcare, as you look at labor rights, as we look at social justice issues in criminal form, and as we look at women's rights, women's um, women's right to choose, and equal pay for equal work. Who's your biggest contender over on that on your side over there? Who who do you gotta take down? I gotta I gotta take down some folks. I gotta take down some folks. But um, I'm working, and I'm I'm the progressive candidate on the agenda. I'm the one that has the passion. I'm the one that has the energy. I'm the one that has the the deals as a lawyer and a chaplain to bring our party in Tennessee together because we are one nation under God, indivisible with liberty and justice for all. Nice. I love that. Well, it was a great meeting you uh, you know, we didn't spend a lot of time together with Corona and me sweating like a big gross human, but I did say I was like, hey, this message me I'd love to talk to you. And I think your son was like, what is this real? How? Why is some sweaty guy offering to I was like, No, I really have like a bunch of shows and I would love to talk to you guys, and just funny how things work out. So I really appreciate your time I have. I gotta be honest with you. I haven't looked up you don't wanted to talk to you first, Um, but I'm definitely gonna spend a little time now seeing you know what more you're about, like the in the trenches. You know, I really appreciate that. And UM, please share me with your over one million hours on Instagram. Well we'll see about that. I got. I got a little more research myself. Um, Robin kimbro Hayes, it's really been a pleasure talking to you. Can follow her on Instagram kimbro Hayes, T n uh So kimbro k I M B R o U G h Hayes h A y E S and then T n as in Tennessee. Robin kimbro Heyes, thank you for your time. I hope you stay safe and good luck you too, and thank you very much. You're welcome Kin, see you later. Bye,