Trump Unveils 25% Auto Tariff; White House Tries to Contain Signal Text Backlash
On today's podcast:
1) President Donald Trump signed a proclamation to implement a 25% tariff on auto imports and floated further duties on the EU and Canada, expanding a trade war and triggering threats of retaliation.
2) Donald Trump’s planned tariffs on auto imports will hurt carmakers around the world and push up prices for US consumers. Among the many losers, one winner stands out: Elon Musk’s Tesla Inc.
3) President Donald Trump and top allies struggled to fend off criticism over the inadvertent inclusion of a journalist in a Signal chat discussing military attacks in Yemen, after newly disclosed texts showed how Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth revealed specific operational details.
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Bloomberg Audio Studios, Podcasts, Radio News. 0:00:10.000 --> 0:00:13.159 Good morning, I'm Nathan Hager and I'm Karen Moscow. Here 0:00:13.200 --> 0:00:14.920 are the stories we're following today. 0:00:15.080 --> 0:00:18.080 Can we begin with the global trade war ratcheting up. 0:00:18.120 --> 0:00:21.479 President Donald Trump has announced a twenty five percent tariff 0:00:21.520 --> 0:00:24.920 on all car imports into the United States. The levy 0:00:24.960 --> 0:00:28.040 will apply to passenger vehicles and light trucks, as well 0:00:28.080 --> 0:00:32.000 as key parts like engines, transmissions, and electrical components. 0:00:32.400 --> 0:00:35.760 If parts are made in America and a car isn't, 0:00:36.159 --> 0:00:38.200 those parts are not going to be text or tariff, 0:00:38.800 --> 0:00:41.480 and we'll have very strong policing as far as that's concerned. 0:00:41.640 --> 0:00:43.319 For the most part, I think it's going to lead 0:00:43.360 --> 0:00:45.960 cars to be made in one location in and right now. 0:00:46.600 --> 0:00:48.960 A car would be made here, sent to Canada, sent 0:00:49.000 --> 0:00:51.680 to Mexico, sent to all over the place. It's ridiculous. 0:00:52.040 --> 0:00:54.680 In remarks heard here on Bloomberg, President Trump said the 0:00:54.760 --> 0:00:57.640 charges will take effect next Wednesday and come on top 0:00:57.680 --> 0:00:58.680 of any other duties. 0:00:59.200 --> 0:01:02.440 Well. Nathan reacts to the auto tariffs are pouring in 0:01:02.480 --> 0:01:05.880 from around the world. Canadian Prime Minister Mark Kearney says 0:01:05.880 --> 0:01:08.880 it's a direct attack on Canada's auto sector. 0:01:09.319 --> 0:01:12.920 Due This will hurt us, but through this period, by 0:01:12.959 --> 0:01:15.280 being together, we will emerge stronger. 0:01:15.760 --> 0:01:18.600 And Canadian Prime Minister Mark Kearney says that tariffs are 0:01:18.640 --> 0:01:22.320 a clear violation of the US Mexico Canada agreement that 0:01:22.360 --> 0:01:24.440 Trump signed during his first term. 0:01:24.600 --> 0:01:27.839 And Karen, we are seeing immediate reaction to the proposed 0:01:27.880 --> 0:01:32.200 auto tariffs. Stilantis, which makes the Jeep Compass SUV in Mexico, 0:01:32.319 --> 0:01:35.640 is down about six percent. We're seeing similar losses in Mercedes, 0:01:35.680 --> 0:01:39.080 Benz Group and BMW, and the European Union is preparing 0:01:39.160 --> 0:01:42.120 to retaliate. The EU has a range of options available, 0:01:42.120 --> 0:01:45.880 including retaliatory tariffs, as well as the Anti Coercion Instrument, 0:01:45.959 --> 0:01:50.160 the Enforcement Regulation targeting US technology and services companies and 0:01:50.320 --> 0:01:54.160 restricting access to the EU market for US financial firms. 0:01:54.400 --> 0:01:57.520 Well in the UK, Nathan Chancellor of the Exchequer Rachel 0:01:57.600 --> 0:02:00.320 Reeves told US moments ago that there were working with 0:02:00.360 --> 0:02:03.080 the Trump administration to make a deal on tariffs. 0:02:03.520 --> 0:02:07.240 I do understand the concerns of the US administration about 0:02:07.320 --> 0:02:12.160 countries that run larger, persistent surplaces with the US. The UK, though, 0:02:12.200 --> 0:02:14.560 is not one of those countries, which is why at 0:02:14.600 --> 0:02:18.120 the moment the UK and the US. After Prime Minister 0:02:18.200 --> 0:02:21.680 Kia Stomer's visit to meet the US President a couple 0:02:21.720 --> 0:02:25.639 of weeks ago, we are now in intensive discussions with 0:02:25.720 --> 0:02:30.040 the US administration a head of the increase in tariffs 0:02:30.200 --> 0:02:32.519 next week to try and secure an agreement. 0:02:33.040 --> 0:02:35.800 UK Chancellor of the Exchequer Rachel Reeves added that she 0:02:35.880 --> 0:02:38.960 believes a trade deal can be worked out between Britain 0:02:39.040 --> 0:02:40.120 and the United States. 0:02:40.280 --> 0:02:43.440 Now, Karen, Carmakers in Asia are getting hit this morning. 0:02:43.520 --> 0:02:47.040 Shares of Toyota, Nissan, and Honda all fell about two percent. 0:02:47.160 --> 0:02:50.040 Kia dropped more than three percent, Hondai was off more 0:02:50.040 --> 0:02:53.200 than four percent. Mazda plunged six percent. 0:02:53.680 --> 0:02:56.160 Well, Nathan, there could be a winner emerging from these 0:02:56.200 --> 0:02:58.520 auto tariffs, and we get that part of the story 0:02:58.560 --> 0:03:01.359 with Bloombergy's John Tucker and John Good Morning. 0:03:01.160 --> 0:03:04.760 Good Morning, Karen. That would be Tesla, run by billionaire 0:03:04.840 --> 0:03:08.600 Trump advisor Elon musk Is large factories in California and 0:03:08.680 --> 0:03:11.320 taxes that churn out all the cars it sells in 0:03:11.360 --> 0:03:14.000 the US. Now that will insulate it to a larger 0:03:14.000 --> 0:03:18.200 degree from President Trump's new levies. Tesla itself has been 0:03:18.240 --> 0:03:21.200 boasting this week about its US credentials of saying in 0:03:21.280 --> 0:03:23.840 a post on Acts that its models are quote the 0:03:23.880 --> 0:03:28.120 most American made cars. Still Elon Muss's Tesla won't go 0:03:28.320 --> 0:03:32.040 entirely unscathed. Between sixty and seventy five percent of the 0:03:32.080 --> 0:03:35.880 components that Tesla uses are manufactured in the US, depending 0:03:35.920 --> 0:03:38.840 on the model. This according to filing by the US 0:03:38.960 --> 0:03:42.440 National Highway Traffic Safety Administration, with the majority of the 0:03:42.600 --> 0:03:46.040 remaining parts they are sourced from Mexico. Now, with the 0:03:46.120 --> 0:03:48.640 value of the important parts kind of unclear at this point, 0:03:48.680 --> 0:03:52.480 the financial impact on Tesla is still unknown. In the 0:03:52.480 --> 0:03:55.000 pre market, you have shares of Tesla. They're actually down 0:03:55.080 --> 0:03:58.160 one percent, but that's still less than General Motors down 0:03:58.200 --> 0:04:02.040 over six percent and Ford those shares down over three percent. 0:04:02.280 --> 0:04:03.760 I'm John Tucker, Bloomberg Radio. 0:04:04.040 --> 0:04:07.320 Okay, John, thank you. While President Trump focuses on trade, 0:04:07.360 --> 0:04:10.800 his administration continues to face fallout from the signal chat 0:04:10.840 --> 0:04:15.160 that inadvertently included Atlantic journalist Jeffrey Goldberg. The magazine released 0:04:15.160 --> 0:04:18.720 The transcript of the conversation showed Defense Secretary Pete Heigseth 0:04:18.720 --> 0:04:21.599 giving a timetable of attacks on who they targets and Yemen, 0:04:21.680 --> 0:04:25.000 including the weapons used during the tariff announcement, President Trump 0:04:25.000 --> 0:04:26.800 said he's not downplaying the situation. 0:04:27.160 --> 0:04:29.480 Well, I don't know about downplaying the press upplays and 0:04:29.560 --> 0:04:31.400 I think it's all a witch Hunt's so I think 0:04:31.400 --> 0:04:32.160 it's a witch hunt. 0:04:32.200 --> 0:04:34.200 And the President says the chat did not amount to 0:04:34.240 --> 0:04:37.600 war plans or classified information, But some Republicans, like New 0:04:37.680 --> 0:04:40.719 York Congressman Mike Lawler, say those kinds of conversations need 0:04:40.800 --> 0:04:41.720 to be more secure. 0:04:42.080 --> 0:04:46.480 There is great potential, not just that somebody be mistakenly added, 0:04:46.520 --> 0:04:50.360 but we all know you know people screen grab. 0:04:50.360 --> 0:04:53.960 And Democratic Senator Elizabeth Warren says the incident raises even 0:04:54.040 --> 0:04:55.520 more questions. 0:04:55.480 --> 0:04:58.680 How many other times are they using signal and what 0:04:58.800 --> 0:05:01.839 are they using it for? So this is a moment. 0:05:02.760 --> 0:05:06.880 What need some of those congressional investigations. We need a 0:05:06.880 --> 0:05:10.800 hearing in the Senate, We need a hearing in the House. 0:05:11.080 --> 0:05:14.080 Senator Elizabeth Warren spoke with Bloomberg's David Gora. You can 0:05:14.080 --> 0:05:17.719 hear more of their conversation in the Bloomberg Big Take podcast. 0:05:18.240 --> 0:05:20.159 Well, we turn back to the markets now, Nathan, and 0:05:20.200 --> 0:05:23.000 stocks and Europe and Asia are lower on the planned 0:05:23.080 --> 0:05:26.600 Trump auto tariffs, futures and they're pretty much little changed 0:05:26.640 --> 0:05:28.760 after tech stocks let us sell off on Wall Street. 0:05:29.080 --> 0:05:33.440 Market strategists, including new Edge Welths Cameron Dawson, expects the 0:05:33.480 --> 0:05:35.240 market shoppiness to continue. 0:05:35.600 --> 0:05:37.680 We think that volatility is going to be a key 0:05:37.760 --> 0:05:41.479 feature of the market throughout this year, simply because even 0:05:41.520 --> 0:05:43.880 if we get that tear of clarity, we don't think 0:05:43.920 --> 0:05:46.800 that it's being fully captured in current earnings sessments, which 0:05:46.800 --> 0:05:48.839 are rund two hundred and seventy dollars a share for 0:05:48.880 --> 0:05:51.640 the full year. You're also still trading at about twenty 0:05:51.720 --> 0:05:54.120 and a half times forward, so there's not a lot 0:05:54.160 --> 0:05:57.240 of wiggle room for incremental bad news, which we think 0:05:57.360 --> 0:06:01.960 just translates into staying in this choppy wide range. 0:06:02.160 --> 0:06:05.279 New Edgewelts Camra and Dawson. This so called Magnificent seven 0:06:05.360 --> 0:06:08.480 led yesterday's to clines. They're on track for their worst 0:06:08.600 --> 0:06:10.000 quarter in three years. 0:06:10.120 --> 0:06:13.479 And Karen Minneapolis Fed president Neil Cashcar He says tariffs 0:06:13.480 --> 0:06:16.800 are causing a dramatic shift in confidence. He spoke at 0:06:16.800 --> 0:06:19.599 an event in Minnesota, been at They're Fed for ten years, 0:06:20.080 --> 0:06:23.640 and this is the most dramatic shift in confidence that 0:06:23.760 --> 0:06:26.920 I can recall, except for when COVID hit in March 0:06:26.920 --> 0:06:27.680 of twenty twenty. 0:06:27.920 --> 0:06:30.480 A lot of is uncertainty around the tariffs right now. 0:06:30.520 --> 0:06:33.160 Nobody knows how high are the tariff's going to go, 0:06:33.520 --> 0:06:35.960 what are they going to get applied to, what are 0:06:36.000 --> 0:06:38.320 other countries going to do, and how long are they 0:06:38.360 --> 0:06:39.200 going to be sustained? 0:06:39.360 --> 0:06:42.560 And Minneapolis Fed President Neil Cashcari says the central Bank 0:06:42.600 --> 0:06:44.920 has more work to do on lowering inflation. 0:06:48.360 --> 0:06:49.680 Time now for a look at some of the other 0:06:49.800 --> 0:06:52.159 stories making news in New York and around the world, 0:06:52.160 --> 0:06:54.719 And for that we're joined by Bloomberg's Michael Barr Michael, 0:06:54.720 --> 0:06:55.480 good Morning. 0:06:55.320 --> 0:06:57.880 Good Morning, Karen, and Appeals Court refused to lift an 0:06:58.000 --> 0:07:01.360 order keeping the Trump administration from deporting migrants to l 0:07:01.440 --> 0:07:06.839 Salvador using the Alien Enemies Act. Loyola law professor Lorie Levinson. 0:07:06.800 --> 0:07:09.000 The court said that it would not interfere at this 0:07:09.160 --> 0:07:12.000 point with the current band that said that, in fact, 0:07:12.040 --> 0:07:14.840 the people being deported had a right to some type 0:07:14.840 --> 0:07:18.120 of hearing even if they're being removed under the Alien 0:07:18.320 --> 0:07:19.280 Enemies Act. 0:07:19.600 --> 0:07:22.600 President Trump has been trying to use the seventeen ninety 0:07:22.640 --> 0:07:25.520 eight law to deport hundreds of people. The administration believes 0:07:25.520 --> 0:07:29.120 are affiliated with a Venezuelan gang. Meanwhile, a lawyer for 0:07:29.240 --> 0:07:33.480 a Turkish national and doctoral student at Tufts University says 0:07:33.520 --> 0:07:36.640 she has been detained by Department of Homeland Security agents 0:07:36.640 --> 0:07:39.760 without explanation. A lawyer for the thirty year old woman 0:07:39.840 --> 0:07:43.400 says she had just left her home in Somerville, Massachusetts, 0:07:43.400 --> 0:07:47.200 on Tuesday when she was stopped by agents. Four US 0:07:47.200 --> 0:07:50.720 soldiers in a vehicle went missing in eastern Lithuania, where 0:07:50.760 --> 0:07:54.200 authorities have been carrying out a search and rescue operation 0:07:54.360 --> 0:07:58.360 since Tuesday. The Baltic nation's Armed Forces said no deaths 0:07:58.400 --> 0:08:02.920 had been confirmed as the effort continued. NATO Secretary General 0:08:03.040 --> 0:08:07.680 Mark Rude had earlier signaled that the service members had died, 0:08:07.760 --> 0:08:10.960 but a spokesperson for the alliance said he was referring 0:08:10.960 --> 0:08:15.120 to news reports and apologized for any confusion. In Waterbury, Connecticut, 0:08:15.200 --> 0:08:17.640 the woman accused of holding her step son captive for 0:08:17.760 --> 0:08:21.600 decades appeared before judge. The stepmother, fifty six year old 0:08:21.680 --> 0:08:25.640 Kimberly Sullivan, faces kidnapping and assault charges. The step son, 0:08:25.680 --> 0:08:28.640 now thirty two years old, was reportedly held in the 0:08:28.680 --> 0:08:31.760 home for over twenty years with little or no food, 0:08:31.800 --> 0:08:34.960 before he reportedly set fire to his room to escape 0:08:35.000 --> 0:08:38.319 last month. Officials say he weighed just sixty eight pounds. 0:08:38.360 --> 0:08:42.520 After he was rescued. The man's biological mother, Tracy Valerand, 0:08:42.800 --> 0:08:45.760 also came to the court. She spoke to reporters, including 0:08:45.800 --> 0:08:47.160 ABC seven, What did. 0:08:47.040 --> 0:08:49.160 You know about Kimberly Sullivan before this had happened? 0:08:49.240 --> 0:08:51.679 Nothing? Absolutely nothing. 0:08:51.920 --> 0:08:54.880 My son said that it started when he was around three. 0:08:55.080 --> 0:08:57.880 That would be about the time that those two men. 0:08:58.480 --> 0:09:02.800 Sullivan's attorney John, it is those allegations are serious. 0:09:03.000 --> 0:09:06.000 With those allegations are made by one person, I understand 0:09:06.000 --> 0:09:08.880 the whole world has jumped on those allegations and has 0:09:08.920 --> 0:09:12.160 already convicted my client with the good thing about America 0:09:12.200 --> 0:09:13.200 is that's not how we work. 0:09:13.800 --> 0:09:17.560 Suloman received a court continuation until tomorrow. Global News twenty 0:09:17.600 --> 0:09:19.560 four hours a day and whenever you want it with 0:09:19.600 --> 0:09:22.760 Bloomberg News Now. I'm Michael Barrn. This is Bloomberg Karen. 0:09:22.880 --> 0:09:29.599 All right, Michael barr thank you time now for the 0:09:29.600 --> 0:09:32.840 Bloomberg Sports Update, brought to you by Tri State Audi. 0:09:32.960 --> 0:09:35.079 Here's John Staneshauer. John, good morning. 0:09:35.120 --> 0:09:37.120 Do you want to careen Hope Springs e turnal on 0:09:37.320 --> 0:09:40.160 opening day, five months after the Mets and Yankee season 0:09:40.280 --> 0:09:42.439 both ended with the loss of the Dodgers, Mets in 0:09:42.480 --> 0:09:45.400 the NLCS, Yanks in the World Series. Big news of 0:09:45.400 --> 0:09:48.320 the offseason was one Soto going from one New York 0:09:48.320 --> 0:09:51.320 team to the other. Sodo's debut comes today in Houston, 0:09:51.679 --> 0:09:53.839 also going for the Yanks to the Mets with Clay Holmes, 0:09:53.880 --> 0:09:56.520 he was a Yankee reliever. He's the Mets opening day 0:09:56.520 --> 0:09:59.520 starter with the Garrett Cole injury. Carlos dan starts for 0:09:59.520 --> 0:10:01.920 the Yanks at the Stadium ents Milwaukee. The Yanks are 0:10:01.960 --> 0:10:05.600 using Austin Wells as their leadoff hitter. Today will be 0:10:05.600 --> 0:10:09.920 the first time in Yankee history spinning over eighteen thousand games, 0:10:09.920 --> 0:10:12.800 that a catcher has hit leadoff. At the Guarden, Knicks 0:10:12.800 --> 0:10:14.880 had a fourteen point lead in the first half, but 0:10:15.000 --> 0:10:17.600 the Clippers had a forty point third quarter. LA won 0:10:17.640 --> 0:10:20.880 one twenty six to one thirteen. James Harden scored twenty nine. 0:10:20.920 --> 0:10:23.520 He had three straight three pointers in that third quarter. 0:10:23.559 --> 0:10:27.400 At Barkley's, the Nets fiftieth loss, beaten by Toronto by thirty. 0:10:27.440 --> 0:10:30.720 The Celtics won by thirty in Phoenix. The Lakers won 0:10:30.760 --> 0:10:33.680 at Indiana on the Lebron James Tippin at the Buzzer 0:10:33.679 --> 0:10:35.600 at Ubs, the Islanders had a two to one lead, 0:10:36.040 --> 0:10:38.520 then lost to Vancouver five to two. The Devils won 0:10:38.600 --> 0:10:42.040 five to three at Chicago. The NCAA Tournament resumes tonight 0:10:42.080 --> 0:10:46.520 with doubleheaders in Newark and San Francisco. After thirty one wins, 0:10:46.520 --> 0:10:49.320 but the Upset lost last weekend Saint John's. Looking towards 0:10:49.360 --> 0:10:52.760 next season, the Red Storm just added Jason sen On, 0:10:52.920 --> 0:10:55.679 transferring in after one season at Arizona State a year ago. 0:10:56.200 --> 0:10:57.280 He was a top recruit. 0:10:57.600 --> 0:10:59.960 Russell Wilson set court side of the next game last night. 0:11:00.160 --> 0:11:03.200 You get good seats when you're the Giants starting quarterback. 0:11:03.520 --> 0:11:06.040 Thankspecting him, you get started and coming here and degraded 0:11:06.120 --> 0:11:07.839 rock and roll every day. I think, you know, it's 0:11:07.840 --> 0:11:09.520 a bit of lead. I think this team is really 0:11:09.559 --> 0:11:11.560 looking for somebody to lead them in every way in 0:11:11.640 --> 0:11:14.280 terms of the process and you know, an off season, 0:11:14.360 --> 0:11:17.360 during the season, our habits and our thought process and 0:11:17.400 --> 0:11:20.120 how we create you know, a great winning culture and 0:11:20.200 --> 0:11:21.959 how do we continue to establish that. 0:11:22.040 --> 0:11:24.760 Wellson Saider's contract yesterday. The big question now the Giants 0:11:24.800 --> 0:11:27.760 do they still draft a quarterback next month? John Stashawer 0:11:27.800 --> 0:11:29.400 Bloomberg Sports Karen Ethan. 0:11:31.480 --> 0:11:35.679 Coast to coast on Bloomberg Radio, nationwide on Sirius XM, 0:11:35.800 --> 0:11:38.640 and around the world on Bloomberg dot Com and the 0:11:38.640 --> 0:11:41.760 Bloomberg Business app. This is Bloomberg Daybreak. 0:11:41.920 --> 0:11:45.319 Good morning, I'm Nathan Hager. As President Trump revs up 0:11:45.320 --> 0:11:47.440 the trade war with less than a week until the 0:11:47.480 --> 0:11:51.360 reciprocal tariff announcement, the President has signed a proclamation imposing 0:11:51.400 --> 0:11:55.400 a twenty five percent duty on automobile imports, and he's 0:11:55.440 --> 0:11:58.440 threatening even more on Europe and Canada if they act 0:11:58.480 --> 0:11:59.400 against the US. 0:12:00.000 --> 0:12:02.080 This is very exciting to me. This is the automobile 0:12:02.120 --> 0:12:07.240 industry and this will continue to spur growth like you 0:12:07.280 --> 0:12:08.120 haven't seen before. 0:12:08.520 --> 0:12:10.760 And that was the President as he signed the proclamation 0:12:10.840 --> 0:12:13.760 inside the Oval Office and remarks heard here on Bloomberg 0:12:13.840 --> 0:12:17.360 this morning. We were joined by Bloomberg's Kevin Whitelob Kevin, 0:12:17.400 --> 0:12:21.160 we know US automakers had lobbied against this tariff pretty hard, 0:12:21.160 --> 0:12:23.000 but it looks now as though that has fallen on 0:12:23.080 --> 0:12:25.520 deaf ears. So how is this twenty five percent levee 0:12:25.600 --> 0:12:26.520 going to work? Good morning? 0:12:26.960 --> 0:12:29.800 Well, I think you know this is still something everyone's 0:12:29.840 --> 0:12:33.200 still trying to make sense of the levy applies to, 0:12:34.040 --> 0:12:36.440 you know, imports of cars made outside the US and 0:12:36.520 --> 0:12:39.479 a number of auto parts. There are some very limited exclusions, 0:12:40.160 --> 0:12:44.120 but it goes into effect next week, which basically on 0:12:44.160 --> 0:12:46.120 the same day that Trump has said to you, announce 0:12:46.480 --> 0:12:49.240 another flurry of tariffs that's going to be what he's 0:12:49.280 --> 0:12:52.679 calling reciprocal tariffs. These are ones that are supposed to 0:12:52.760 --> 0:12:56.440 apply broadly across sectors across the globe. So there's these 0:12:56.600 --> 0:12:59.560 layers and layers and layers of varying tariffs that are 0:12:59.600 --> 0:13:03.720 starting to come into effect and be announced. And you know, 0:13:03.800 --> 0:13:06.440 I think Europe and the rest of the world are 0:13:06.440 --> 0:13:10.160 sitting here trying to figure out, so is this real 0:13:10.280 --> 0:13:13.800 and is this going to stick? Or are there negotiations 0:13:13.840 --> 0:13:16.320 and other conversations to be had down the line to 0:13:16.400 --> 0:13:16.760 that point. 0:13:16.840 --> 0:13:20.760 I mean, we've already had conversations. The EU Trade chief 0:13:21.040 --> 0:13:24.680 was in Washington, it has been in Washington this week, 0:13:24.720 --> 0:13:28.760 and now we have this truth social post overnight that 0:13:29.120 --> 0:13:32.440 the European Union in Canada could face even more tariffs 0:13:32.480 --> 0:13:35.079 if they work together against the US. How to make 0:13:35.120 --> 0:13:35.760 sense of all this? 0:13:35.880 --> 0:13:39.240 Kep, Yeah, I mean we know that the EU officials 0:13:39.320 --> 0:13:42.679 were having you know, reasonably intensive conversations with folks in 0:13:43.040 --> 0:13:45.480 the US, but it was all they came away from it, 0:13:45.600 --> 0:13:47.400 you know, convinced that, well, they weren't going to be 0:13:47.440 --> 0:13:49.400 able to head anything off. This was all going to 0:13:49.440 --> 0:13:52.880 go into effects. So the conversations will obviously continue down 0:13:53.360 --> 0:13:55.720 down the line. So I think they were a little discouraged. 0:13:57.000 --> 0:14:00.240 But you know, I think there's still some you know, 0:14:00.480 --> 0:14:03.200 uncertainty about just what we're going to see from these 0:14:03.240 --> 0:14:07.000 tariffs next week. The you know, what we've heard is 0:14:07.080 --> 0:14:10.080 the EU is expecting something in sort of double digits 0:14:10.360 --> 0:14:13.760 by way of percentages for for what these other across 0:14:13.800 --> 0:14:16.320 the board teriffs are going to be. But what that means, 0:14:16.320 --> 0:14:18.800 what kinds of exclusions, how it's going to work, That 0:14:18.920 --> 0:14:21.480 is still all entirely unclear one way. 0:14:21.400 --> 0:14:21.720 Or the other. 0:14:21.800 --> 0:14:24.720 If this all sticks together and sticks, you know, and 0:14:24.760 --> 0:14:26.640 Trump sticks with it, it is going to have a 0:14:26.760 --> 0:14:31.120 dramatic impact on US companies and European companies, on consumers 0:14:31.160 --> 0:14:35.680 in various places, and on the economies and in the 0:14:35.920 --> 0:14:38.240 in the short to medium term, it does look like 0:14:38.280 --> 0:14:41.920 it's going to be disruptive and potentially painful. Trump's you know, 0:14:42.000 --> 0:14:44.040 has said that in the long term. He thinks it's 0:14:44.040 --> 0:14:47.640 going to help bring manufacturing and other jobs back to 0:14:47.680 --> 0:14:52.120 the US, But it's not really clear that how much 0:14:52.160 --> 0:14:55.080 turmoil is going to take place then and what the 0:14:55.280 --> 0:14:57.080 what the fallout from that is, What. 0:14:57.080 --> 0:15:00.000 Are the US trade partners considering in terms of reaction, 0:15:00.040 --> 0:15:02.760 action or even retaliation against these tariffs. 0:15:02.960 --> 0:15:06.520 Yeah, the EU has been working on various retaliation plans 0:15:06.560 --> 0:15:09.400 for a while, and so we know that they've been 0:15:09.480 --> 0:15:11.840 very closely held, so we don't know all of the details, 0:15:11.880 --> 0:15:14.520 but we do know that they're essentially ready to go. 0:15:14.640 --> 0:15:17.960 But because Trump is sort of rolling you know, things 0:15:18.000 --> 0:15:20.880 out one after the other. First we had stealing aluminum tariffs, 0:15:20.960 --> 0:15:22.720 now we have the auto tariffs. Then we're going to 0:15:22.760 --> 0:15:27.120 have these reciprocal tariffs. He's talked about pharmaceutical tariffs. They 0:15:27.240 --> 0:15:28.840 kind of want to wait and get a bunch of 0:15:28.960 --> 0:15:32.120 see see what he rolls out, at least through the 0:15:32.360 --> 0:15:36.400 next week, step back, look at it, figure out is 0:15:36.400 --> 0:15:39.880 there a negotiation or not, and if there's not, you know, 0:15:40.200 --> 0:15:43.040 come and hit with with some firm retaliation. And so 0:15:43.120 --> 0:15:46.240 I think that, you know, maybe by mid month, late month, 0:15:46.320 --> 0:15:49.000 late April, I think we'll see what the EU is 0:15:49.040 --> 0:15:50.840 actually going to do, but it may take them a 0:15:50.880 --> 0:15:53.720 little while. They are also trying to find ways to 0:15:53.920 --> 0:15:57.320 not provoke a more severe reaction, and there's some more 0:15:57.360 --> 0:16:00.360 severe steps in the first place by by Trump. 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