Angie Martinez IRL - Victoria Monet: Grammys, Self-Love & Taking the Stage with Bruno Mars

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Grammy-award winning artist and author, Victoria Monet sits down with Angie Martinez to talk about dating men vs. dating women as a bisexual woman, the disappointment she felt after winning her Grammy Awards, and her experiences with mediation. Plus, a voicemail from a fan who wants to know if she'll ever change up her style of music.

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00:00:00
Speaker 1: The women that I've dated are like have been like sexy too.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, a little bit.

00:00:04
Speaker 1: Fim, a little bit more like in the middle or more fem than masculine. But I also think about like children and just like be thrown against the ball. I'm so weakome feminine.

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Speaker 2: Hey guys, today's episode is brought to you by Boost Mobile. So our guest today was growing up writing poetry instead of going to parties. She spent fifteen years writing hit records for folks like Ariana grandev Na's Brandy and Moore. She is a three time Grammy winner New York Times bestseller, a culinary student, a mom to the youngest Grammy nominee in history, and this summer she's going to stadiums, the stadiums of Europe with Bruno Mars. Welcome Victoria Monday around and we are dressed like I don't know if we're going to be security R and B group, but we were singing yes without even trying.

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Speaker 1: I love it.

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Speaker 2: Hi, baby, how are you doing? I'm good? How are you doing? I'm good? All right? So you have many many accolades, You've been through a lot of seasons. Where are we at now? What season is this?

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Speaker 1: Right now, I think this is like self love season.

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Speaker 2: Is it not? Always?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I suppose, but I feel like I put other people above the amount of love I had for myself. So now I fully feel like the frequency that I'm on feels very loving, gentle towards myself. And I think it's my side quest because instead of doing something that i've I've been doing for fifteen years, which would technically pay me, you know, pursuing music, pursuing artistry, songwriting and all of that I'm known for, I've been over here doing culinary school, studying, tai chi boxing class, stretch class, the weight training. I did a six week intensive also with this, this coach called Would Tully, and he had me doing meditations along with the sun. So I do it at sunrise, at zenith, and at sunset and it's you gaze into like you go outside and you turn to each direction like north, south, east, west, and it's this meditation. So it takes a certain amount of commitment to do that three times a day, no matter what's going on, three.

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Speaker 2: Times a day is the times. It's a real commitment, for.

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Speaker 1: Real, for real. But I think it's what I need. It's just what I needed to kind of shift my energy.

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Speaker 2: Wait, so has this been like a year? This has been all year? You've made these.

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Speaker 1: Well for the past year, I've been doing all of them, but not all at the same time. So this, this meditation that I was doing with the sun the sun was for six weeks straight.

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Speaker 2: You just finished that.

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Speaker 1: No, this was in the fall.

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Speaker 2: And what came out of it, I.

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Speaker 1: Just felt like awakened. I felt like it's almost a feeling that you get when you fast. Have you ever fasted for long enough where you feel like you're a little like slowly? Yeah, it was like that, but it naturally, so it's almost like there was some kind of influence, like how you feel when you have a sip of wine or how you feel. I don't know if you could talk about this on here.

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Speaker 2: But like it's true or.

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Speaker 1: Anything like that. You're like, huh, I'm more alert, more awakened. But it just happened with breath work and meditation and like giving yourself that time and like paying attention to God and like acting with the sun, being outside in the sun, getting that vitamin D. All of that was really influential in my mood. And it was like coffee.

00:03:45
Speaker 2: Were you doing it just as like explorator, you want to learn things, or were you doing it to get through something?

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Speaker 1: I definitely was wanting to get through something, and I felt like I needed some kind of change, like some urgent change. Last year being the year of the Snake, a lot of shedding was happening in my personal life and in my business, lots of changes in business, and just trying to do something that takes you out of your own algorithm. I feel like, really resets something in your spirit, in your mind to like feel something else, you know. So it's something that I felt called to do. I found out about him through this breathwork class that my eyebrow what what are they called esthetician eyebrow person my eyebrow first, and she's really spiritual and she's always talking about you know, your signs and angel numbers and all of that. So she introduced me to this coach who did a breathwork class and I took my mom, I took my friends.

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Speaker 2: Tell me how it goes, though, like what do you do it? Yeah? Like what is the what is the ritual?

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Speaker 1: But you go in when I tell you it's so crazy, you think that it's like this some la. Yes, it sounds like that, but it actually before the class starts, he kind of goes through passes out these notebooks that that has you write down your intentions, what you want to get from this intensive and also these animals that you may be aligned with. So there's like an ego, there's a jaguar. There's all these different animals, like which one do you feel most like? So you identify that there's jaguar. There was a jaguar, and there was like, yeah for sure, Yeah, what would your animal be? What do you feel like today?

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Speaker 2: Like an owl?

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Speaker 1: Okay? What made you say?

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Speaker 2: Just because I feel like an owl will just be chilling, watching watching, not super aggressive or super needy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, just kind of like alert and present.

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Speaker 2: Just present and assessing.

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Speaker 1: And uh, I wonder what the spiritual meaning of it is of an out Yeah, yeah, because what they when you identify the animal, there's also a spiritual meaning attached to it before you even know what it is. You choose the animal and then they reveal to you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and so you're a jaguar wife.

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Speaker 1: You know what, I don't remember the exact feel like fluid and when I think of and move it to a movement, Like what at that phase, I felt like a jaguar. I don't know if I feel like that anymore, But to me, when I think of jaguars, they like are camouflaged in like their environment, but they're watching and they know exactly when to strike and kind of pounce, and they have a really strong bite. Once they latch, they have the strongest bite in the jungle, Like they really bite down, but it takes a minute. They're patient, and then their claws are out. I also like how sensual they feel like when they're walking, the way their shoulder blades look. It feels like there there's a little bit of mystery there. Now I feel a bit softer, like my claws are not out anymore. I feel more relaxed in my position.

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Speaker 2: Who would your animal be now, I don't know. I love this question. I think everybody should figure out there is everybody's animal.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, what's your animal? I don't know if it's an animal. Maybe it's more like a butterfly. Like I feel like I have transformed, so I used to be something. Yeah, Like I have these wings and I'm floating higher above different things, and I can land on whatever flowers I want to go snip over here and see what's going on. But I used to be a caterpillar, you know, like I came from something and I put in the work to transform, and I trusted that moment in the dark where it felt like I don't know what I'm becoming, but I'm just gonna snuggle in here and be So maybe you said when you came here, Yeah, I want to snuggle. I like to feel like snuggly. Definitely not Jaguar.

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Speaker 2: Fi noaars smuggling. Yeah, yeah, you're in a different network. You're like the Koala bear. Yeah, butterfly.

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Speaker 1: Have you seen the red panda?

00:08:04
Speaker 2: No? Are you a red pant? Maybe you're a red.

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Speaker 1: They're so cute. I'm sorry, I'm so cute.

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Speaker 2: No, that's so cute. That's interesting though, because it's about like it forces you to like think about where you are, think about your temperament, right, It forces you to like look at yourself in like a fun, kinding way. Right. So that's probably what that does, yeah, for sure. And then the breath work does what?

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Speaker 1: Uh, the breath work it's another one of those things that make you feel like you have taken something, but it's just with your breath. I think oxygen has delivered some kind of oxytocin serotonin. Something's going on. I don't know the exact definitions of it, but there's we're not going to hold you to it like you're thank you so much, you scientists out there. You let me know in the comments like.

00:08:52
Speaker 2: She could just playing the seeds of her experience. It's for you to do the research.

00:08:56
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, So taking this breathwork class. The breath work can make you feel high, and it makes you it actually brings up traumas sometimes like your eyes are closed, and the patterns in which he has you breathe, there's like a journey that he takes you on. So at one point you could almost hear messages or you could tap back into a memory that you didn't even think that you needed to address it. I'll come to you.

00:09:27
Speaker 2: Did that happen to you?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, and your It sounds really crazy, but there's a chance that your body responds by your hands what they call chickeney, so they'll be stuck in a certain position. But it's all based on trauma. So different people in the room are going through all these different things which you have a blindfold there's like a special music playing when you take your blindfold off. After the breathwork experience, everyone kind of goes around the room and he asks people like, what did you experience. One person in the room had some kind of I would want to say, like a tumor that was stuck. They literally vomited it up. It sounds really crazy, and I swear I'm not cuckoo, but this is what was happening in this class, like these types of things, and some people's experience was I went to every doctor and they couldn't tell me what was wrong with me. I came to this class, I experiences I vomited whatever trauma it was, and now I feel great. There's all these stories about people doing the breathwork class and it really physically healing them, and.

00:10:34
Speaker 2: This breath work in general or this specific person in the way.

00:10:38
Speaker 1: This was an intensive one, so it was about four hours of it. So like the first hour was him talking about the experience and what to expect and doing that worksheet, and then there was like two and a half hours of the actual breath work, and then another thirty minutes or an hour of kind of talking about it with everybody. But this is something that people do daily people, and I think that's when That's why when I think of like people who don't have distractions, for example, like a monk, Like.

00:11:07
Speaker 2: I'm obsessed with the monks.

00:11:08
Speaker 1: Do you see what I'm saying. I really believe the.

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Speaker 2: Closing and the calmness and the and the evenness of how I By the way, I've never been a monk, so I don't know, but in my imagination how they move through the world, it's fascinating to exactly.

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Speaker 1: That's what I think about these people who have those disciplines, daily practices, and I do feel like it's possible that you tap into more using more of a percentages of your brain, so you can do things like like change things or move things, or float a little like maybe I do south a little bit crazy, but I do believe that if we remove distractions, we could do all kinds of stuff.

00:11:50
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00:13:31
Speaker 1: To clear it out, clear it out, get it cleaner clean.

00:13:35
Speaker 2: We've had people in the pod talk about like shrooms or ayahuasca byahuasca or Chelsea Handler does like what's what did Chelsea do? M V D M A Which that scares me, but she swears by it. Some people some people to share Tasha Smith. Some people it's prayer, like deep like prayer. It's like how they kind of sort through the noise and get connected. And so this is just like another way. It's interesting. I've never done it. I would totally try it.

00:14:08
Speaker 1: We should do.

00:14:09
Speaker 2: It's no drugs involved, no trust, so I feel like I can safe.

00:14:12
Speaker 1: It's safe.

00:14:13
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what I did one time, which was interesting. It's reminded me what you're talking about. It did have you called it's e mdr.

00:14:21
Speaker 1: Is that when something attached to both sides of your body and there's.

00:14:25
Speaker 2: Like yeah, people do right, people do it different ways. It's like, uh, they make your eyes go like this, And it's supposed to be like one side of your brain holds your trauma, and the weight of the therapy is it is to move the trauma to the other side of your brain, the side of your brain that holds just memory, so that when you think of the trauma, it's almost like thinking of something in a movie. It's not attached to emotion. It's like you could be like, oh, yeah, I went to this bad car accident, or I saw somebody get murdered or I saw and you could say it as a story without feeling it in your body, right, And when it's on the other side of your brain, you could get scared when you're in the car, which is what was happening to me, which is why I went and did it. And when I did it, the same thing you were talking about with the breath work. Old shit came up there. I hadn't thought about since I was a kid, and I was like, what hold on? What did that writ was that? Where did that come from? I forgot about that, and it's wild how the brain holds stuff that we don't. We're walking around and we don't even realize that we're holding onto It's crazy.

00:15:27
Speaker 1: I think it also physically manifests, so that when you when I hear people you know with cancer specifically, I feel like sometimes it could could have come from not only the products and the way that we have with our food systems in America and all of that, but also stress. Like when you're holding certain things that you don't clear it some it's like becomes these knots in your body or your cells respond to it in a way that physically manifests into certain diseases. So I think stress levels and clearing that out is even physically important just as it is mentally important.

00:16:04
Speaker 2: Go for you, I love that you're that you've done this amount of work on yourself, really working on it. I could feel you lighter. You feel lighter, I mean you never felt heavy, you didn't know, you didn't feel like a heavy energy. You always lovely and sweet.

00:16:19
Speaker 1: But yeah, I love that for you.

00:16:22
Speaker 2: It's easier way to walk around the world, right.

00:16:24
Speaker 1: Yeah, a lot, a lot more weightless. I mean, I'm still trying different things. Is most recently, I observed Ramadan. And you're not Muslim, I'm not, no, but I wanted to. I felt called to do it, and I wanted to explore the discipline. And I'm not technically Muslim, but I think, you know, one of the things that Muslims believe is that when you're a messenger for God, or when you believe in God, then that's one of the definitions of being a Muslim, like putting God's ideas before your own. And when you're talking about fasting and praying, you're kind of out of your own flesh. So that's a really nice way to feel connected and you know, here for something bigger than yourself. So it was really a really great experience for me too. And I'm so open to continuing these spiritual modam.

00:17:18
Speaker 2: So is it just something that calls you and you just try it, You just try it, you're just down for it.

00:17:24
Speaker 1: I want to be open to it. You know. It's like I think maybe growing up in a Baptist household, that's just you know, the messages, that's that's who we are, that's how we are. And now I want to kind of know about other ways of thinking and believing and then see if I really return back to my roots or if I adapt any other ideologies or just being open minded to how the rest of the world may do things.

00:17:54
Speaker 2: Imagine the whole world could be like that that. Imagine people could actually be interested in other people people experiences.

00:18:00
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, it's like we are interested, but not deeply, Like we're so interested that we have an Instagram like we're so we will follow and like and like this level be interested, but not like with empathy.

00:18:14
Speaker 2: Yeah or yeah something a lot of it has judgment or yeah.

00:18:19
Speaker 1: Comparison a full whack shit. Yeah, we don't want to be like no, we don't want to be like that.

00:18:26
Speaker 2: So what is all this like? So how does this affect you as an artist? So now you're like back in work mode, right, Like, does this past year have been not a lot of work?

00:18:34
Speaker 1: No, this has been in addition to work, just.

00:18:37
Speaker 2: Working it on, stacking it up because you were working on this project, right and for this tour?

00:18:42
Speaker 1: Yeah yeaheah. So it's just the days became longer. I started the days at four am, and then training and then the meditations for about six weeks of it, and then off to school, then after school for lessons and studio.

00:19:02
Speaker 2: Culinary lessons happened. Also, Yeah, still do vocal lessons though, by the.

00:19:06
Speaker 1: Way, yeah, yeah, I want to be better. I wasn't doing it in the beginning of my career, which was a grave mistake. And I don't know, girl, what were you thinking? I didn't do it consistently. I was like, oh, I already sing, and I'd do it every once in a while. But one thing that was really inspiring to me was working with Usher and he was still taking vocal lessons. I was like talking about legends here and they're still working on their craft, which is so inspiring. So I was like, let me go ahead and be consistent. So I went to vocal lessons and speech pathology class and I think even just clearing myself energetically helped my voice.

00:19:44
Speaker 2: What are you getting ready for?

00:19:46
Speaker 1: You know what.

00:19:49
Speaker 2: I mean? Spiritual wars?

00:19:57
Speaker 3: Yeah?

00:19:57
Speaker 1: I think maybe it's just in order to take on the next level of success, I have to be deserving of it and ready for what it may bring. I think music, the music industry spiritually can be very dangerous and dark. So the deeper you walk into it, the more you may be tempted or the more or tested or attacked. So I feel like I'm building a really strong force field that's like of light. Like, Okay, I can handle all of it.

00:20:26
Speaker 2: I know who I am. Yeah, spiritually grounded.

00:20:30
Speaker 1: I no where to return to if I feel shaky, Like I'll go back to breath work, I'll go back to fasting. I'll go back to you know, maybe just cooking in the kitchen and singing there versus the show. You know, being so worried about what everyone thinks of me.

00:20:46
Speaker 2: Was that a thing for you?

00:20:47
Speaker 1: Oh? Yeah, I think honestly, it's tough not to compare or be on a stage and like be present, not worry about if that audience member is really liking the vocals or you know, it's just all these they're like quick, quick thoughts. I'm not ruminating on them, but they come.

00:21:05
Speaker 2: They come. Yeah, it take they take you down if you let them. They would excited for this new season for you. I mean, it's just like we're all just trying to like always work on ourselves, right, and becoming better versions of ourselves and right.

00:21:17
Speaker 1: Do you feel like do you feel like Earth is like a school? Like we came here to learn something and keep learning and then we kind of like passing away as like a graduation of sort.

00:21:31
Speaker 2: Girl, I want to learn things till the lights go out, right, I want to do that. And honestly, when you stop doing that, I think is when you when your body starts giving out, when you start losing energy, you start losing motivation and passion because you're not inspired and learning anything. Now. I want to be something new all the time. We just I just shot my first film that I wrote and directed myself as just short. But you're starting that well, learning how to do that, messing up, bumping my head and then feel wasted money and like, oh, like I did that. I learned to golf three years ago, which I'm still learning. It's like I'm learning something new literally every week. But just yeah, I learned from my guests all the time. I just learned about this level of I mean, I know about breath work, but this way that you kind of did it is a no interesting idea thought to me, I may actually go try that now.

00:22:24
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm going to send you his page. She does his intensive But that's really cool that you like you.

00:22:30
Speaker 2: Have to write that's everything. That's really why we launched the pod is like I want to learn from people. I don't want to just learn skills. I want to learn how to navigate, how people are navigating through the world successfully. And I don't mean success when feel nothing like that, but like like you like you like you're getting something out of what you're experiencing.

00:22:51
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think. I mean when I think about just the piece at like the golf course.

00:22:56
Speaker 2: Oh my god, it's the greatest thing ever. You golfed before, right, you told me that.

00:22:59
Speaker 1: I did did my freshman year of high school. And I was walking through high school with my little golf clubs, just as a freshman, just already like nervous, and someone was like, what are you tigerwood sister. I was like, well, I gotta stop golf, already done with it. I just wanted to Did that happen?

00:23:16
Speaker 2: Your mother wanted you to do something different.

00:23:18
Speaker 1: It was like, there's no black golfers, and if you black and you golf, you're gonna get a scholarship. I was like, I'm not even good.

00:23:24
Speaker 2: I don't even know. It's so hard.

00:23:26
Speaker 1: It's really hard. But I feel like now, as an adult, it may feel meditative.

00:23:30
Speaker 2: You didn't feel you didn't fall in love, but you didn't like it at all?

00:23:34
Speaker 1: No, No, it's but now I think I would love I mean, I love top golf. I know it's different totally. That's fun.

00:23:42
Speaker 2: We're going to take you. But you're at this age so you're what high school? You said, when you're a golfer?

00:23:45
Speaker 1: Yeah, freshman in high school.

00:23:47
Speaker 2: But you're probably like you already have dreams of being a star. No, you're writing? Are you singing? You?

00:23:52
Speaker 1: Yeah? I was like, this is not going to be I don't see me getting a golf scholarship.

00:23:56
Speaker 2: Mom.

00:23:57
Speaker 1: I appreciate it.

00:23:57
Speaker 2: But I want to be an artist. I want to.

00:24:04
Speaker 1: Yeah. So that was that was short lived.

00:24:05
Speaker 2: Did she believe in that at the time?

00:24:08
Speaker 1: She was like, yeah, because it was a performing arts high school. I was like, why am I going to performing arts high school to perform golf? It really didn't. It didn't clock. But she was trying her best as a single mom to be like, you're not going to be in the situation that I'm in. You're not going to You're gonna be better, You're going to go further. And I just had a different way of doing that. It's a lot scarier and a lot less of a guarantee my way, I guess. But yeah, eventually worked out.

00:24:38
Speaker 2: She wasn't against it.

00:24:39
Speaker 1: Though she was no, she wasn't. I mean, she didn't like that I was coming home late because I was at dance rehearsals. It was very sister and vibes like really yeah. I was like, Mom, I just want to dance, and she was like, you're not going to keep coming in my house at one am from dance rehearsal, and I was like, but you should see what the other kids are out there doing to one am, I'm just dancing. It was very that.

00:25:03
Speaker 2: I get this.

00:25:04
Speaker 1: She needed to get me together. Though she wasn't wrong. I was coming home.

00:25:07
Speaker 2: She was wrong.

00:25:08
Speaker 1: She wasn't wrong, but it paid off. It did so, so I guess we was both right.

00:25:12
Speaker 2: Wait, you mentioned going, You mentioned the shift of the Chinese New Year, Yeah, which was it was the Year of the Snake. And then we went into horse, fire horsey, fire horse, So what does that? How does that affect you?

00:25:25
Speaker 1: Fire horse? They say it means that things are going to go by really really fast, like I imagine the horse galloping in the direction that you're supposed to go. And it's also a one year which is the end of a nine year cycle that we may have all been in. So it's kind of a new beginning. Maybe we'll all have lots of different shifts that we're experiencing in our personal, financial, spiritual, career lives, but quickly and probably more in the direction of alignment that you're supposed to be in. But when you think about that and you make yourself aware that, it feels like it all makes sense. Like whatever happened last year, the shedding that we've done, you probably would be like, oh, that's why that person's not in my life. Oh that's why I'm not doing that anymore, because it was literally aligned to do so up until I believe February seventeenth is when the Year of the Firewars technically started.

00:26:21
Speaker 2: Interesting.

00:26:22
Speaker 1: So, yeah, it feels good, I think. And this year has been going fast. It's been life.

00:26:28
Speaker 2: Oh yes, may like damn near may yah. Yeah, it's flying.

00:26:33
Speaker 1: Yeah, So I feel aligned with what's happening in my life too. What about you?

00:26:39
Speaker 2: You feel like, oh, yeah, I'm going to do doing all types of new things and new experiences and shifting and making changes in my life too that are I don't know, I'm in a little bit of a You know, there's seasons in your life where you have figured out what you want to do and you're in the process of transitioning. But then there's seasons where you kind of have to sit still and like, I'm a little bit I'm working. Trust me, I work. I work, Like, of course, so I have ideas and creative things do we want to do? And I have this project and so all of that, but internally and personally, I'm kind of like waiting out. Oh yeah, And I'm also trust I'm not just waiting. I'm just like in a flow, like I'm trusting, I'm receiving, I'm paying attention to you know, the road.

00:27:34
Speaker 1: That feels very feminine to me, Like, that's a very feminine energy, is it.

00:27:38
Speaker 2: I love that because I've always been accused of the opposite.

00:27:40
Speaker 1: Really, yes, no, this is very feminine. I think that feminine femininity is like an art of allowing, art of space, and just like being in a flow, masculine energy is like I'm gonna hunt, I'm gonna go get and I'm gonna make it happen. But you're on the other side and that still so powerful and it takes a lot of power to allow yourself to do that.

00:28:05
Speaker 2: Especially when you naturally operate the other way.

00:28:08
Speaker 1: Yeah, go getters.

00:28:09
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm a natural goal getter. So for me to be like, we just ride this wave. Yeah, let me see, we just ride it. See how it feels. It's actually kind of cool. I'm into it.

00:28:19
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's empowered.

00:28:20
Speaker 2: Well, breath work might be good for me though, you might try that. Sure, all right, culinary school, I love that for you? Speaking of new things, what has that been like for you?

00:28:33
Speaker 1: It's actually been one of the best decisions I've ever made.

00:28:38
Speaker 2: Are you were going to be? Are you really gonna take this all the way?

00:28:40
Speaker 1: To be a chef for I don't plan on working at a restaurant full time, but I do want to make things happen in the culinary space. So I can imagine having something on the shelves grocery stores I'm wanting. I mean, people fell in love with my cookies, so ill a business called Sweet Moonnaise. I haven't really launched it yet, but I think my goal on tour would be to have the Sweet Moonnaise cookie truck trailing my tour bus and so people can get merchant cookies there I feel like fa. I mean, it's in the it's in the manifesto. I also have a series called Saucy Sundays that I've been doing. We're on Sundays, I will just give different mesip, piece of different sauces. I really think that sauce changes the dynamic of any food, like the same pasta a whole bunch of different sauces, like can really eat then that's seven meals in a week, like or the rice, whatever sauce to fish with whatever sauce like just opens up really in a really simple way, ways for people to change the way they're cooking. So I want probably to have that on the shelves.

00:29:52
Speaker 2: You're probably like a dream girlfriend, you think.

00:29:56
Speaker 1: So I'm so single though.

00:30:01
Speaker 2: The cooking is not is not attracting me.

00:30:03
Speaker 1: I mean, hello, anybody want to.

00:30:05
Speaker 2: Why are you single? Though? Because you want to be because I would imagine there's options.

00:30:10
Speaker 1: There is a lot of options. But I am so busy doing all the side cuts. I don't know, working cookie like I don't.

00:30:22
Speaker 2: Be making albums again, prepping for Brunomor's Toork.

00:30:25
Speaker 1: Yes, it's a lot, and I think the season says to me that, like I do need to continue to focus on myself, but I'm probably also preparing for that right person. Like every everything that I'm becoming is probably hopefully what he's also doing, so that when we meet where the people were supposed to be and we're together and it actually lasts, you know, hopefully. But you said, he hey, yeah, well only because.

00:30:52
Speaker 2: Look, because you've been open about.

00:30:54
Speaker 1: The girls, dirty dirty no, the girl, girl, the girl.

00:30:58
Speaker 2: Really this is not ever something I've ever explored. But I would always imagine that girls would be easier to matter.

00:31:07
Speaker 1: Really my experience has been there but worse. Yeah.

00:31:11
Speaker 2: Hell so maybe just bad picking.

00:31:15
Speaker 1: Maybe yeah, maybe it's that. But also like girls, they don't really approach me seriously. They approach me like, oh, like sensually, and I'm like, well, I would want it to be something more serious, and I haven't really gotten that approach from many women. They're just like, oh, she's beautiful, she's attractive, or like talking about my body and stuff.

00:31:37
Speaker 2: So yeah, it's like a sex thing.

00:31:40
Speaker 1: Yeah, so maybe they don't take me seriously. But when I think of my next relationship, I've been in a space where I want because I'm feeling so feminine, like I want the opposite energy, and I'm feeling like a masculine Maybe it's a masculine woman. I'm not sure. I've never really tried that. The women that I've dated or like have been like sexy too, yeah, a little bit fim a little bit more like in the middle or more fem than masculine. But I also think about like children and just like be thrown against the wall. So I'm so weak. I feminine, like just the masculine figure. So in my head, I think it might be a guy.

00:32:26
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's where you're at right now, right now, change because you have because you're open that you have so many more options than some than somebody who just dates you know you would you would think, I think that you would have so many more options because you're open to more.

00:32:43
Speaker 1: You would think, but not really like they're the ladies, aren't. They're not aggressive with me or approaching me in a serious way.

00:32:52
Speaker 2: It's more to you know what's going to happen now because you've said that out.

00:32:55
Speaker 1: Loud, Now, my dms are going to be lit with women.

00:32:57
Speaker 2: I'm I don't know what you have before them, different kind of that type of talk.

00:33:02
Speaker 1: Hey hello, I'm single. So the options are do.

00:33:06
Speaker 2: You like being single or is like love and finding a partner and somebody like to kind of navigate this really important to you.

00:33:12
Speaker 1: I'm such a lover girl, and I think maybe that might be the caveat about me, just because when I'm in a relationship, it's I'm all about that person. I'm all about being of service and helping them make their life better, and you know, surprises and like I get a little bit distracted. The butterfly lands on the rock flower like then stays it just stays there.

00:33:38
Speaker 2: One of those girls. Yeah, it take you off your focus.

00:33:42
Speaker 1: A little bit.

00:33:43
Speaker 2: Yeah, so maybe that's why you don't have it yet.

00:33:45
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think this season is really about the growth that I need to do to focus and focusing on my tasks because maybe that's one of the reasons why things took a little bit longer, because I've been in really long relationships like six year relationship, three relationship, four year relationship always, So it might be best for now.

00:34:05
Speaker 2: When was the last time you've had a stretch of being single.

00:34:09
Speaker 1: Before Hazel?

00:34:11
Speaker 2: Wow?

00:34:12
Speaker 1: And I think that was maybe like two years, three years in between, but yeah, before Hazel.

00:34:20
Speaker 2: So you may need this time.

00:34:22
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, it's already been two and a half years that I'm single now.

00:34:25
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you're doing work on yourself.

00:34:27
Speaker 1: I'm doing pretty good.

00:34:28
Speaker 2: You made a mom. Your daughter's gorgeous.

00:34:30
Speaker 1: Thank you.

00:34:32
Speaker 2: How's co parenting going.

00:34:34
Speaker 1: Like it's so easy, which is I'm like, it's not other people's experience. So I'm so thankful to have a co parent that really understands and we're not spiteful picking up the slack. At first, it was a bit difficult because you know, there was still that attachment there and still feelings. But as we grew, we made a commitment that, like, no matter what, Hazel will not see any negativity. We're not going to put our business online, We're not going to argue. There's going to be a tone on which we talk to each other with respect. We're going to be compromising. So if he needs something on his schedule that I have to commentate for, we do that and vice versa. Like, it's been really great, So I'm really lucky, really lucky.

00:35:23
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you split it up. We had we just had Emma Greed on the pod right.

00:35:28
Speaker 1: Oh she's great.

00:35:29
Speaker 2: Yeah, she's super dope, super smart. But interesting thing about her in her marriage because she's married to her business like her business partner.

00:35:35
Speaker 1: Oh, I don't know that.

00:35:35
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's a brilliant businessman too. And we were talking about the roles of mother and father. There's like things that people expect. It's not a fifty to fifty thing, no, you know, and it's not expected to be a fifty to fifty thing, which is why she's like raising eyebrows and rubbing people the wrong way because she's like, no, it's a fifty to fifty thing like she requires or is that of her husband, and he does it like he wants to do that. They have that relationship where it's like he does actually half of the parenting, okay, and she does half of the parents Okay. Could you imagine that? I mean, I mean.

00:36:15
Speaker 1: That works for them. If that works for them, that's great. I feel like with scheduling and with you know, I don't know, I don't know how I would technically divide it.

00:36:24
Speaker 2: Well, they're in the same house. It probably makes it easier, got it. Cold parenting is different, I guess in different houses. Yeah, but just the idea of that what's expected really of women and mothers, and I think we kind of also we want it that.

00:36:37
Speaker 1: Way, right, you like to have more responsible.

00:36:40
Speaker 2: It's just the mother is like, yeah, this is a certain thing that moms they're like usually, God, I don't want to be disrespectful to all the amazing funds. I'm just saying a lot of things fall on us.

00:36:54
Speaker 1: Yeah, nature by nature.

00:36:58
Speaker 2: Yeah, it comes to parenting.

00:36:59
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm like the way that we're co parenting, I'm in the new school wave because I don't feel like I mean, he's he does her hair when she's at his house. It's like you would think like these there are certain things that he has to do one hundred percent while she's there, and I do one hundred percent while she's with me. So in a way we're both one hundred.

00:37:27
Speaker 2: That's great.

00:37:27
Speaker 1: I guess, like just depending on who's how she's at. But I'm you know, I'm kind of wondering what she'll feel as she grows up, because right now it feels like she's like, oh, I have two of everything, I have two houses. Like she's kind of in that phase, and I wonder when she's going to be like I think you guys are supposed to be in one place, like more observant. Maybe maybe maybe, and I hope it's just like it's normal for her. It just becomes part of her life and that she doesn't feel like she doesn't have any one place to ground. It's almost like she's all is with a go bag, you know, Like I'm trying to think about that as well.

00:38:06
Speaker 2: So I don't know, none of us could get it one hundred and then you think you get it right, and then it stills up and it's like, you know what really bothered me when I was you know, saying like my mother was amazing, I still had to go to therapy. Yeah, my mother was. My mother is like the most morally grounded human, loving human being, and I still had to go to therapy. So it's like just do our best.

00:38:34
Speaker 1: We just it's almost like it's it's a relative like if if and this house losing losing a dollar is detrimental. In this house, losing five dollars is detrimental, But the feeling is the same. Like the amount of trauma or whatever it was, maybe wasn't the same intensity, but you felt the same. And maybe that's a point of all of us to just you get gifted the parents that you need in order to you know, transport you to the life you want to have, or gives you the parents that or gives you the children that you need to fix certain flaws, or give you patients if that's what you needed, or give you more understanding, give you more communication skills, like you're partnered up parent and child with exactly what it is you need in order to fix or be better for the school of life.

00:39:37
Speaker 2: Basically, that's pretty good. What have you learned from your daughter?

00:39:41
Speaker 1: Patience for patience because that she's so funny and she's great, but she has a mouth on her. She'd be talking crazy.

00:39:52
Speaker 2: So I have to breathe. Breath work, breath work.

00:39:57
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, I'm really excited for you to tour.

00:40:00
Speaker 2: Feels like it's going to be a really big deal.

00:40:01
Speaker 1: Right, I'm screaming about it. I'm screaming about it. I literally just went to go see the show in Vegas. Was it last weekend? I think it was just past weekend. Yeah, his opening night was on Friday. So I went to the second show and so I got to see DJ pee Wee, Leon Thomas and then Bruno. Also just getting a scope of what it's going to look like when I go. So it was fun. But also market research and I was like, oh shit, this is crazy.

00:40:30
Speaker 2: Does that excite you and scare you or.

00:40:33
Speaker 1: It definitely makes It's like I am the fire horse. There's like a whip that makes me go faster. It's like, uh, I want to make sure that I'm fully prepared and just you know, I've I've prepared technically my whole life for these moments, but especially now, just keeping in mind the environment that I'm going to be in and the gift that it is to be able to be on that stage, and the gratitude. Go operate on this day with that gratitude, but also just don't take it for granted or just take advantage of the opportunity and we're really hollered. Go kill it. Yeah, so maybe the clouse need to come back out for the just the rehearsals for tour.

00:41:13
Speaker 2: How did that happen? Did you know Rono or was it the teams or he ask for you?

00:41:18
Speaker 1: I think I want to say he asked. They didn't tell me how I was presented to him. But in twenty twenty, I did this performance when I was I was like four months pregnant. I had this like sparkly green jacket hiding my pregnancy belly, and we couldn't perform out in the world because of quarantine. So I recorded a live performance of my song and I put it online saying I'd love to open up for Silk Sonic. That's what they were doing at the time, Radio Silence. I think they maybe liked it or something, but like no one was like, yeah, come come to our Vegas residency or come on tour with us or any of that. Lo and Behold. Five years later is when I got the call.

00:42:00
Speaker 2: So were you like manifesting this moment? I believe.

00:42:02
Speaker 1: So it seems to be that when I write something down and I think about it and I want it bad enough, may not happen that day or that year, but eventually it.

00:42:12
Speaker 2: Just wait a minute, So you do this, perform a full performance with the idea that I want to open for Bruno and so sod Yeah, And so that's a like manifestation of like you're putting yourself like if you build it, they will come.

00:42:28
Speaker 1: You can't.

00:42:29
Speaker 2: It's really something to that.

00:42:30
Speaker 1: Yeah, very Noah built the arc. Yeah, I mean, I just I've always been inspired by Bruno. I was signed to Atlantic at one point and he was there, and I noticed how he had this song with Bob called Beautiful Girls, and he was on the hook. And right after that he went into his own career and was killing it. And I thought to myself, why don't you try that, Victoria, Just do a little bit of what he did and see if you can do the same thing. So for a while I was just writing hooks and sending them to Atlantic. They have a long roster of rappers, so it's like, maybe I could be take that path, like have a rap song, you know, blow up, and then be on the hook, be on the hook, and then that would lead to my own singles, which is how I ended up being on songs with Nas and Ti and writing with Meek Mill. Like I just became the hook rap hook girl for a sex. So I appreciate that for sure, but just just reminded me that like your ideas, you just may take some time for them to come to fruition, just like a seed. Like when you plan a seed, you don't see what's going on, but there's lots going on under the soil. You don't see it till it's above the soil. And so these moments like me going on to it. Bruno feels like, Oh, I'm out of the Oh you're out of the soil, out of the soil on this one. Yeah, the seed was planted in twenty twenty.

00:43:52
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, you really are a wool girl. I don't even need to fully embrace this. You've meditated a no Mars tour. You know what I'm saying. You just change your whole animal. You went from a jaguar to a butterfly in the past year.

00:44:09
Speaker 1: It really might be a woo girl, you know what, low.

00:44:12
Speaker 2: Key I think you're manifesting. Also, this next relationship that you're about to be in right now, you're doing that right now. You're in the season of like planting those seeds. Yeah, that'll be fun to say when that, when that blooms.

00:44:26
Speaker 1: That's interesting because I do like I feel like it's happening music musically as well, because my next single is called single, and it basically just says I'm seeing it's like a single another summoning you are.

00:44:43
Speaker 2: It's it's gonna come in a way.

00:44:45
Speaker 1: I'm gonna call you immediately, like.

00:44:49
Speaker 2: I really want you to, I really want to know, I really want updates on that. Yes, speaking of singles. Was just looking at some of the lyrics of this single. Where did I do with that card? A card of your lyrics? So some of the lyrics on your let me let me be your ride or die, let me love you back to life, let me give you peace of mind. Ride or die is a triggering term for me. It comes up on the pot we had DMX's wife to share on.

00:45:22
Speaker 1: Okay, we were.

00:45:23
Speaker 2: Talking about ride or die? Is write or die? What does it mean to you? First of all, what does ride or die mean to you? Because you know, depending on what we're working with, write or die could be toxic and traumatized.

00:45:38
Speaker 1: That's true, And I guess it depends on who you're singing it to, which you should have the choice in. Yeah, of course, So I don't think you should be dying for real, Like.

00:45:48
Speaker 2: No, we don't want to die poetry guys.

00:45:50
Speaker 1: Yeah, please please the dye. But but just for me. It means if you tell me your flaws or you're exposing something you feel like you're insecure about and your vulnerabilities, and I'll still ride for you and I can handle those things, is what I'm saying. I don't mean if you're wrong we're wrong together, and we're all on the sword together, like we're not riding into the sunset on that vibe. It's more so just like I got you, I got you, like they're you're gonna like me. You go through so many phases of yourself. I don't expect you to be the same person you were five years ago. And if you can't maintain one of the qualities that I like, I'll tell we can have that conversation. But it doesn't mean that I'm leaving you. You know, I understand, and I'm giving you the freedom and the space to make your changes, and I'm gonna ride for you as long as it feels. You know, we're talking about still being respectful. We're talking still. I'm not saying like, go ahead and cheat and I'm gonna still be here, Like not any of those toxic traits, but more so just making sure that people know that because they're imperfect, that mean that they don't deserve love. Love.

00:47:03
Speaker 2: Yeah, whoa, it's such a little poet.

00:47:06
Speaker 1: I'm a lover girl. Look, this is just very poet vibes right now.

00:47:09
Speaker 2: Put your poet head on. You're doing your woo woo. Well here doing your breath work.

00:47:14
Speaker 1: I need to go talk to Erica honestly, like, so, what's next?

00:47:18
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00:48:21
Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, let's have it.

00:48:29
Speaker 2: Aria.

00:48:30
Speaker 3: My name is David. I'm from New Jersey. One of my favorite songs of yours is Experience with you and Kleid and SG Lewis, would you ever do an album based on that type of music, you know, like Calvin Harris disclosures z something along with the EDM lines. I love how you're able to experiment with all these different genres and you're still very much you and you're authentic and you just make so good music, Like I just want to dance and you know, like would you ever tap into that? And I can't wait to see you open for Brutal Mars. I'm going to International, like I bought my ticket already. I'm so excited. Thank you so much, so sweet.

00:49:07
Speaker 1: So sweet. He said his name was Daniel, right, David, Hey, David. He said up Tempos? Would you ever do a project of up? And the answer is yes. I wanted to do a project with Kate Tranada. Actually, oh wow, Dmile and Kate Trinada and I don't think that's out off the table. I would love to do that. I think that music is so fun to me.

00:49:30
Speaker 2: And then you can perform perform it.

00:49:32
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like I definitely also see the crowds and like a Coachella space and like those those types of vibes and energy feel would feel really good on that type of stage. So yes, I would love to do a project like that, and also with the DJ like Calvin Harris or anybody you know, upcome, up and coming, like absolutely for sure.

00:49:57
Speaker 2: Okay in real life questions ready, yeah, well life, what are you most proud of about yourself?

00:50:05
Speaker 1: I really think for the past year, I think my transformation. But like I've grown up like in so many ways, and it's been really tough, and a lot of it I did without the validation or praise from other people because it's behind closed doors. So that makes things a little bit tougher. When you don't have that like dopamine or encouragement right away. It's delayed gratification, which we are so trained to have immediately, like come like my photo today, see me today. Yeah, So to have that delay really taught me a lot about myself and the fact that I really want what I want, and I will go through those dark moments alone or with my team to get there.

00:50:49
Speaker 2: So with the darkness of like, what was the what was I mean that you want to share? I don't know if it's something you want to show.

00:50:55
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think last year. Last year I had a really tough transition on my team with management and with my agent, and then I also felt unprepared for the next chapter. I felt lots of pressure musically because I didn't feel like I had the right body of work to give to people, but they wanted it.

00:51:17
Speaker 2: Now.

00:51:17
Speaker 1: A label was like there's like a lull in time and you're losing momentum, you're getting old, or like all of these really negative thoughts that don't belong to me were coming and I just felt really down. And after the Grammy win, the way that people celebrate you as an underdog and the moment you win switch is really alarming. It's like, oh, so you don't want me to be here, you don't want to want me to be successful, because it's only great until you actually get it to some people, and I'm sure I'm seeing it's not the same person tweeting that back to back, but like the energy that came towards me was like, so, why did she get the Grammy? And she's like, she's not even an new artist, and like, so she doesn't have any hit songs. Like all of these little thoughts that were coming to me that I was letting them in and I was carrying it. And even the way that I was talking to myself or the pressure I was putting on myself, you could probably see it in my eyes that I was like feeling defeated for you. It was like that. So I think just even making a rash decision I don't even know if the word rash is right because I don't know what that means, honestly, but making the random decision to go to culinary school and do something that doesn't pay me or something that doesn't identify like.

00:52:33
Speaker 2: People, don't be out of that that.

00:52:35
Speaker 1: Rat race that you're in, that imaginary pressure that you're applying to yourself, and you realize, oh, you're still a great human even even if you didn't do not one more sum, you can still do so many other things. Like you've climbed the top of that mountain and you got to the place that you wanted to be. Now you can start at the bottom of a whole other mountain that has nothing to do with any of that, and climb to the top of that, and you can do that a million times over and it does not have to be contrived and connected and like you only stand on this. You're only a legend if you keep going on this mountain, you know what I mean. So that really helped me heal and the shift was necessary, So I think that's what led me to this.

00:53:17
Speaker 2: That also is like your whole life, you wanted to do this because you're a kid, you're preparing for it. You get this moment, it happens. It doesn't happen fast. You were working a long time, but you have this explosion explosion of a year, and then that's so sad that the other side of that was, I don't know, just disappointment in a way.

00:53:40
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah. Yeah, it was just a really crazy juxtaposition of this high that you feel like, oh my god, it finally happened, but then also paired with the expectations of how to keep it, how to maintain it, why you deserved it, Like all of that comes would you try your best to like ignore, but you sometimes you can't.

00:54:06
Speaker 2: Well, but also that now that makes sense why you needed to be spiritually grounded for sure, so that you could process all of that, all of that because it might have hit you differently. Had you done this work before that moment, you might have been able to withstand some of that noise a little better.

00:54:22
Speaker 1: I think. So I didn't have any practice, Like there was no practice, I wasn't. The only practice I knew is studio and work and grind and just don't sleep. That was my practice. And so now paired with the other modalities, I feel like I could the next round.

00:54:42
Speaker 2: Is that the goal like getting back on that on the mountaintop.

00:54:48
Speaker 1: Of one hundred percent, But I think it's paired with trying to do that while climbing other mountains as well, so that my my valid my value is not predicated on just one set of goals. You know, I'm still a great friend. I'm still a great mom. I'm still a great chef, I'm still a great Tai Chiese student, I'm still great in the gym, Like all of these things will add up to be a well rounded human. Off New York.

00:55:19
Speaker 2: Only in New York you're setting off the sirens. I love that for you.

00:55:25
Speaker 1: Thank you.

00:55:26
Speaker 2: Yeah, good for you. That means the mountains about to be bigger. What is on your bucket list that you have to check that you haven't done yet? What? In real life? What is something that you would like to accomplish?

00:55:35
Speaker 1: Honestly, I want to go to Bali. Sounds like really accomplishment, but I'm trying to get over there.

00:55:41
Speaker 2: It's so peaceful. Well, you're so woo you need to go there? Yes, in real life? What is something you are no longer available for? Mm hmm.

00:55:58
Speaker 1: Ooh, I definitely I am no longer available for negative news. I think sometimes we share tea or like just random headlines just like we'll just we'll just repeat it and say it to our friends. But but why do we do that? Like what response are you trying to get out of the other person? Like what do you need to relate to? And so I'm trying to do less of allowing that.

00:56:31
Speaker 2: Yeah, what energy you're allowing in your space?

00:56:33
Speaker 1: Yeah? Because what's the purpose? Like we want to talk about positive things. We want to be so far away from anything negative that it doesn't even pass our mind because we're just not tuned into that station. Oh, I don't even know anything about that because I'm so here? Would it like so a lot less of just like the trauma announcements like this what's going on? The fear mongering and all that stuff.

00:56:58
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00:57:49
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00:57:58
Speaker 2: Oh? I love This is my favorite question in the boat. Usually if people don't get it. I ask it anyway. I'm so happy you got it.

00:58:04
Speaker 1: If God were to text you right now, what would it say. I think it would say, I've been here all along and I'm still here and I'll always be here. If ever you feel confused, listen closer to me. If ever you feel misguided, follow my light. Make sure you say my name. Though probably I think you would say that, or she. I think they would say that.

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Speaker 2: She's such a writer, You're so good with words. That was beautiful. I just feel like that question is so I don't know, it just goes right to your soul.

00:58:57
Speaker 1: Oh literally that When I read it, I was like, oh, don't cry.

00:59:00
Speaker 2: I don't. I felt that, But when people answer it, I feel the genuineness and bad.

00:59:05
Speaker 1: Yeah. It's like you just read the name God and you're like, yeah, because I think I mean just where we are. She doesn't or she doesn't if they don't get mentioned as much as they should, and there's lots of negative energies that try to take you away from that. So just hear it and be able to have the platform to talk about it. It's like, thank you, that's really nice. Y, what's up you guys, this is Victoria Monet in real life.

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