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Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: Pete Mavaqua, Notre Dame athletic director. A couple of months ago, I said, oh, I look forward to talking to you again. I didn't know we would be talking about this. How did we get here? Pete?

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Speaker 3: Dan, first of all, yeah, thanks, thanks for having me on. It's good to see you. Yet yesterday, that's the question. I don't know how we got here. That's kind of what we have a problem with. I don't have a good answer for you, you know, and a lot of conversations here on campus the last twenty four hours, as you can imagine, and you know, I want to make one thing clear, Dan, we have no problems with the teams that made it in. They're all great teams. You know, Miami's a great team, Alabama's a great team, if Texas Vanderbilt, we're a great team. What we're so confused by and frustrated with is the process. You know, every step along the way, since the first CFP rankings came out, we were led to believe we were in as long as we took care of business, and we certainly took care of business with this ten game winning streak. Then you think about that first ranking. You know, we and Miami were both six and two. They had obviously already beat us the first game of the year. They were eighteenth, we were tenth. You know, the only thing that we did since that point was win every game by over an average of over thirty points. And you know, all of a sudden, we're eleventh and on the outside looking in. And you know, when we sit and talk, when I talked to Marcus, when when we talked to our team, we don't have any good answers for that. So we're just we're just really frustrated that we had the rug pulled out from underneath this.

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Speaker 2: Stan Were you able to lobby at all Sunday morning, you know, or I had the decision been made that you were not going to make the playoffs?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know exactly when the decision was made. You know, we you know, we made our case. We stayed at our point of view. But again, if you're us, we were told from day one of the rankings that you know, we were in and we were ninth, and then all of a sudden, you know, we go play a game against Stanford. I felt like in the middle of the night, you know, and we took care of business, and Alabama has a really tough game against an Auburn team that's having a tough year. And we wake up on Tuesday and we fall below Alabama for the first time. And it was all about the fierce conversation between Notre Dame and Alabama, and I heard something to the effect that Alabama went forward on fourth down, so that made an impression, and just our heads were spinning, like, where's the logic, where's the rationale? Why are we being kind of punished and the only ones that seemed to be moving in the wrong direction and yet winning and having an unbelievably you know, dominant end to the season. It's just we're confused, we're sad, and damn we're frustrated.

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Speaker 2: And I was told there's nothing that's secret in those meetings. It eventually gets out. And I was told during last week that it felt like where Alabama was ranked, that Notre Dame, in the words of my source, you guys were being set up for disappointment. So this is somebody involved in this. And then all of a sudden, the Miami situation, which if they ranked Miami ahead of you fine, I don't have any problem with that. I just didn't understand the rationale. And then I wondered, did the ACC lobby at all? Did what role did the ACC play in any of this? In your opinion?

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Speaker 3: Well, I would tell you I mean again, I have tremendous respect for Miami, you know, the great team, great school, their athletic director, Dan Radikovich is a good friend, and all the teams in the ACC, great wonderful universities. We have no gripes about any of the schools in the ACC. But we were mystified by the actions of the conference to attack you know, their biggest really business partner in football and a member of their conference, and than twenty four of our other sports. And I would tell you, Dan, I wouldn't be honest with you if I didn't say that they have certainly done permanent damage to the relationship between the conference and Notre Dame.

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Speaker 2: What do you mean, just we.

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Speaker 3: Didn't appreciate the fact that we were singled out repeatedly and compared to Miami, not by Miami. Miami has every right to do that, but it raised a lot of eyebrows here that the conference was taking shots at us and you know, that's just not something we chose to do. We wouldn't choose to do that in the future. People might disagree with us, but that's just not something that we'd be comfortable with. And again, we have no problem with any of these teams. These are all great teams. And you look at those teams Miami, like I said, great season, they beat us. You think about Alabama, and nobody's had more success in college football over the last decade than Alabama. But Dan, you know, I mean you follow the sport so closely. Everybody was saying that we were one of a handful of teams that could win this whole thing. We have zero percent chance. Even Nick Saban, you know, nobody knows more about college football maybe in the history of the world than Nick Saban, you know, and he said it yesterday, like, how is Notre Dame not in this? I mean, everybody's just kind of confused and perplexed, and we don't have good answers for the kids on our team, for our student athletes.

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Speaker 2: Are you're going to reevaluate your relationship with the ACC the overall relationship, I would just say it's been strained, irreparable.

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Speaker 3: Well, you never say, irreparable, but it's opened our eyes and you know, we we it caught our attention. But you know, we'll we'll, we'll move past this like we are, you know, as you know, we're already focused on next season.

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 3: You know, we made the decision not to play in a bowl game, as I know you're you're well aware, and a lot of a lot of people have asked me about that, and you know, and Marcus, we watched the Present Day Show, the selection show with the team and then Marcus, like he always does, was wonderful, got up and for somebody that always has great answers, he was brutally honest with the team and said he didn't have a lot of answers. Doesn't understand how this happened, Why this happened, Why a team that thought it was doing what it needed to do all of a sudden kind of woke up on kind of the wrong side of this. And then just as you're kind of dealing with that, you start getting these calls from other bowls. And you know that the role of a captain on the Notre Dame football team is a role that the program and Marcus takes very very seriously and he could talked to all the captains, you know, I said, hey, what are you guys thinking, What's what does the team thinking. Let's talk about this, And you know, to a person, the captains and some of the other you know, underclassmen on the team said, listen, we are such a close knit team. We've done so much this season. We overcame those two opening losses, we rallied, we dominated in the last ten games. We can't imagine taking the field not as that team. And it's reality, Dan, You know that certain players wouldn't participate in that game. You think about somebody with the future that he has, like a Jeremiah Love, a Jadarian Price, Eli Rarid, and you know Emil Wagner, who's one of the most impressive people I've met in my life. Hopefully after he's done playing football, I hope he runs for president one day. It just wouldn't be the same. And you know, made the decision that it was time to start thinking about next season. Give these these student athletes a break. They have exams coming up, and then you know, really hopefully they'll they'll go home and spend Christmas in the holidays with their family and friends.

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Speaker 2: Feels like a message being sent as well, Pete.

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Speaker 3: Well we're not happy, Dan, that's for sure.

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Speaker 2: Help me understand this though. So are you guaranteed a playoff birds if you're twelve or higher next season?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: I don't want to say too much about the memorandum of understanding, but that's certainly been reported. That's out there, and what you said is accurate.

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Speaker 2: So next year, if you're ranked in the top twelve, you're automatically in the playoffs. Correct, Okay? And everybody agreed that, like this was drawn up my Notre Dame and then the college Football Playoff Committee said we'll sign off on that.

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Speaker 3: Well, it was part of the negotiations as we were contemplating the various changes that go into the committee and in preparation for the extension of the ESPN deal.

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Speaker 2: Are we looking at a sixteen team field next season?

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Speaker 3: Dan? I go back to what I said when you were here on campus for the USC game. I firmly believe that the right answer is sixteen teams with five automatic qualifiers and eleven at large. And maybe there's no answers. You know, think about this year, Dan, If seing we were four teams, there wouldn't be any arguments. I mean, those four teams, I think that's crystal clear. Those are the right four teams. I don't think anybody would argue so for twelve, fourteen, sixteen. I happened to think sixteen is the answer. I think the majority of the vast, overwhelming majority of the people in the college football management committee room agree with me. I think anything beyond sixteen, in my opinion, is a mistake because it would interfere with the importance of the regular season. And all, by the way, did we feel that this year, right? But that's important?

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Speaker 5: Right? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: You know, we knew we had two tough games played. You know, well, we certainly got better over the course of the season, but we lost the two great teams by a total of four points. We felt we had zero wiggle room. We felt we did what we needed to do. It turns out we didn't have a chance, right, And that's what's so disappointing. But I think sixteen teams with the five and eleven format is the way to go.

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Speaker 2: Dan Pete Mvauqua Notre Dame Athletic direct joining us. But when is this voted on? When is this decided or is it already decided?

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Speaker 3: Now, what's been a series of conversations for the better part of a year or more. As you saw, it was reported that we have a bit of an extension from when we need to inform ESPN of what the format will be. We'll meet as a group over the National Championship weekend. I'm not sure if anything's going to get resolved as it relates to format in that room at that time, but these conversations are ongoing. If I had to guess what happens next year, I think there's a good chance we stay at twelve. I hope we can keep pushing for sixteen. But Dan, I just don't know how that's going to end.

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Speaker 2: College football is at a crossroads, it feels like, but it does take something to make change. So maybe what happened here with Notre Dame brings about change, so it could be a catalyst. Do you see it that way?

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Speaker 3: Well, again, we're frustrated with the process, not the teams. They're all great teams, and it's a bunch of teams. B Yu has a great argument. Texas, Vanderbilt, Miami, Alabama, Notre Dame. We all have great arguments. It's the process that bothers us.

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Speaker 2: Why those ranking shows bother me, Pete, because.

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Speaker 3: Well they bothered me too, because you know, if we said, well, if we had assembled as a team on Sunday and rankings hadn't told us for the previous weeks, we're in, we're in, we're in. Take care of business, take care of business. And hey, you know what, Notre Dame, you're eleven, and now you're going to get squeezed out because the conference tie ins and Miami beat you, and hey, I get it. But these ranking shows, as I said yesterday, like what's the point why kind of send these signals and get the hopes up of these of these teams, these coaches, these kids on the team that believe they're doing everything necessary. And then, like I said, it just felt in that room a collective sense of the rug being taken out from under us without any explanation at that. I've heard Dan that has me feeling better about it.

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Speaker 2: Casual fan here's this and says it's sour grapes, Notre Dame trying to be bigger than everybody more important. You would say, what.

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Speaker 3: Well, listen, everybody kind of wants to do right by their team. We felt like we did what we needed to do this season to earn a spot in the college football playoffs. We feel that we have one of the very best teams in the country. I think the majority of people who follow this sport so closely agreed. Every indication we had from that first ranking suggested that that committee agreed with us. We were always being compared to Alabama. We couldn't possibly have ended the year any better than we did. I get why people think it's sour grapes, but you know it's disappointment.

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Speaker 5: Dan.

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Speaker 3: I mean this is we take this seriously, as do other universities, and you know, the rankings can't just be musical airs at some fifth grade birthday party. They have to mean something, and to me, what happened to us really kind of was alarming.

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Speaker 2: Just to get you on record, you're not anti pop tarts, right, because you guys were reportedly going to the pop Tart Bowl to play BYU Dan.

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Speaker 3: That the irony in that is I love pop tarts, and I particularly love the brown sugar pop tarts. I probably need too many of them now. I'm a huge fan of pop tarts. That's nothing to do with pop darts, Okay.

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Speaker 2: I just want to make sure we got that on record. I would say, great to talk to you again, but thanks for We appreciate you coming on and giving your side of the thing. If the people watching on TV behind you, what are all those numbers behind you?

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Speaker 3: So these behind me, these are actual bench seats from Notre Dame Stadium. So when we did the extension and the renovation and created crossroads here, there were some of the original seats left over, so we created a wall here with some of the original bench seats in Notre Dame Stadium. So this is the back of my office that you're looking at.

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Speaker 2: How old are those seats?

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Speaker 3: Probably some of them different ages but on different panels, but some of them are over a century old.

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Speaker 2: Thanks again, Pete, We appreciate your time now.

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Speaker 3: Thanks for having me on Dan and good to see you and hope to see us soon.

00:14:26
Speaker 2: That's Pete Levauqua. He's the Notre Dame Athletic Director.

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Speaker 2: Subscribe, hit that thumbs up icon and comment away. Tony Garcia, covering Michigan football for the Detroit Free Press, kind enough to join us on a busy day. I know you're at the courthouse there, Tony. What is Sharon Moore being held on? What are the charges?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Good morning Dan.

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Speaker 4: As of now, there are no official charges to this point that have been made publicly. So Shron Moore was investigated for this assault investigation that is going on.

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Speaker 2: Things moved pretty quickly yesterday.

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Speaker 4: So Drummore was fired for a cause on Wednesday after an investigation found credible evidence he had an inappropriate relationship with a staffer. I'm told there had been an internal investigation dating back a couple months, and then recently in the last couple of weeks, they brought in an outside firm, which corroborated things and moved that over to the athletic department. Separately from that, multiple law enforcement agencies responded to a call for mister Moore just outside inn Arbor around four pm yesterday, less than one hour before the firing was announced. The investigation currently is into an alleged assault and mister Moore has been detained by the Pittsfield Township Police and he was transported to the WASHINGTONA County jail overnight where he was held. That's where we are right now in the fourteen A District Court here in Washington County.

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Speaker 2: How was he informed that he was fired?

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Speaker 4: Those details are not quite public. I've been told that yesterday there was a team meeting. The athletic director came in to the team facilities and informed the staff and the players, but mister Moore was not there.

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Speaker 2: At that time.

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Speaker 4: So I sometime in the previous in the past forty eight hours, is he is when he was told specifically, but it's not clear where he was at all time.

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Speaker 2: And this has been swirling. I had gotten word at the end of October. Now I don't know if that lines up with anybody's timeline, but once again, I didn't know, you know, if there was any fire to it. There was certainly smoke, and I didn't know if it was a smear campaign or just somebody putting something out on social media. But I did get a heads up from a source. But then it kind of went away. When did it resurface where you knew that this was something that was credible? Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Really in October, Like you just said, Dan, that is when the week of the Michigan State game was the final week of October. That is when the university started investigating this, and there had been word and other reporters had heard as well that there was not quite the findings to move forward with this. And then something changed in the last couple of weeks where a smoking gun up sorts was found that much to me is not yet clear whom it was, but things things evolved pretty rapidly in the last ten or so days.

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Speaker 2: Were these recruits signees given any heads up that their coach his job was in jeopardy.

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Speaker 4: It doesn't sound like it from what from what I've heard, but I've also been told that this investigation and the findings of this investigation was not held intentionally post signing day because remember this in this day and age, in this transfer portal era, once a head coach leaves, everybody is free to enter the transfer portal market as they see fit. So this would have they could be on the on the move anyway, and they have they have free reign to do so immediately.

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Speaker 2: And fifteen day window here for these new signees and those players who are currently on the roster, that's right, which will almost.

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Speaker 4: Overlap into when the portal opens again and in January. Right, so, people players in the Michigan program most of the next six weeks or so plus they're gonna they're gonna be eligible for transfer.

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Speaker 2: And so we'll see.

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Speaker 4: I mean, there's a lot of damage control going on in and around behind the scenes right now.

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Speaker 2: Talking to Tony Garcia joining us from the courthouse. He covers Michigan football and basketball for the Detroit Free Press. Will Charon Moore appear in court this morning? That's our expectation.

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Speaker 4: We are here in the in the lobby at the fourteen A Districts Court. We've been a colleague and I have been walking around to different court rooms trying to find it. But it seems as though there's some TV monitors over to my lacked here. They may just arraign him via zoom and display it on TV in court. So I'm not sure if we're going to get to be in person for anything.

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Speaker 2: The coaching search is underway, I'm sure give me a short list here of you know, the true potential candidates.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, there's a couple that really come to the top of mind for me. One of them is Jedfish at Washington, he has had ties to the Big Ten, to Michigan specifically, where he was a quarterbacks coach, wide receivers coach, passing game coordinator under Jim Harbaugh in twenty fifteen sixteen, and he's led a couple of nice successful programs in the past five years. He turned to Arizona around he took over after they went zero to five in the COVID nineteen short and twenty twenty season. He won just one game that first year, but by year three he was ten and three. He beat Oklahoma in a bowl game, and so he seems to know how I mean. And that's a lot fewer resources than here in ann Arbor, and then recently the past two years at Washington, nothing to truly write home about. Six and seven two years ago, and then eight and four this past season, but Camon DeVore had left right for Alabama and that roster was completely gutted. So I don't think anybody thought he was going to make a bowl game that first year. And he's done a great job this year as well, with just even winning eight games with another roster I think over under before the season was six and a half. So he's exceeded expectations again. And then I just mentioned the other name came on the boar. Sounds like things are. I mean, there's been a lot going on in Alabama and in Tuscal loose, and we know the fan base is not exactly happy with the job. He's done nine to four in his first season, missing college Football playoff, just making it in there this season. I wonder if he doesn't wait for someone in Tuscal lucid to make a call in one year if he doesn't win a national championship and he sees a program that has all the resources, all the money, the infrastructure that you could want as a winner. Obviously just won a national championship two seasons ago. Those would be my top two names on the list right now.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, But does in Alabama have all those things that you're telling me Michigan has. Oh, certainly they do.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I mean it's a long shot, right and I don't I don't think, but he has.

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Speaker 2: He has ties to this area as well.

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Speaker 4: So at Eastern Michigan, he was an offensive coordinator from twenty fourteen to twenty sixteen, which is shut just up the road in Ipsilani. And then he got his start, or really i'd say he made a name for himself in the Big Ten with Indiana with Michael ed Indiana with Michael Pennix before he then took him to Washington and led them to a national championship loss, ironically to Michigan.

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Speaker 2: All right, let me let me throw out a name that probably would not be popular, but he's free right now and he's got experience, and that would be Brian Kelly.

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Speaker 4: I knew where you were going to go with that, and I tweeted out yesterday and maybe this is a chance for cold takes exposed or something. It's not going to be. It's it's not going to be Brian Kelly. Okay, there are there is breath. There is brass that is not that are not Brian Kelly fans, and now I will leave it at that.

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Speaker 2: Great stuff. Good luck today. Thank you, Dan, appreciate having me on. It's Tony Garcia. It covers Michigan football for the Detroit Free Press at the Courthouse there.

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Speaker 2: Live Shaquille O'Neil the SHAQ Funhouse that'll be at the Big Game in San Francisco, and you can get tickets beginning today at ten am Pacific at shaqs Funhouse dot com. Good to see you again. Did LSU ever try to get you to play football when you were there?

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Speaker 5: No, they did not. I wanted to because you know, you know the story. You know the story. I started off as a football player. I was a tight end and noseguard. I actually loved football because I love inflicting pain on people.

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Speaker 2: Who was the coach there, Mike Archer was see the coach when you were there?

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Speaker 5: I think it was yeah, yeah, Mike Archer. But they have a player who actually taught me how to be a superstar. His name was Tommy Hutson and you know Tommy Hodson for Heisman. He didn't end up winning the Heisman Trophy, but he was like a he was like he was like everything on campus and I just saw how nice he was to people and how respectful he was and how much respect he got. So I know he's watching the show. So Tommy Hudson, I love your brother.

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Speaker 2: Was his number fifteen? I don't remember fifteen or eighteen? For some reason, I remember him.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I remember. He's like a He's like a gorgeous tom Brady. Tom Brady's hot.

00:24:37
Speaker 2: Are you You're all in on Lane Kiffing? You feel good about your head coach? Now?

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Speaker 5: Of course I do. Whoever you know they decided to pick. You know, Lane Kiffin is a great one. He's gonna be making a lot of money and I know he's gonna be bringing in some heavy recruits. It's time for LSU to get back on track, like the like the I think it's The interim athletic director of Verge Olsbury said she was all about winning championships. That's all we wanted to do.

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Speaker 2: I'm curious nowadays, if you were at LSU, you'd be a one and done. But you stayed three years.

00:25:09
Speaker 5: I wouldn't be one of done.

00:25:11
Speaker 2: You would not.

00:25:13
Speaker 5: No, you know why, because with this nil stuff, I would definitely be at the top of the list, right and I would milk that. And if you're a top in a al guy, I think you can make more than what these rookies are making on that contract. But again, college is all about education, so I would try to get as much education when it comes to business as I can. So let's just say I'm making eight, nine to ten million dollars a year for ben Il deals. I'm musa stay. That's thirty million right there. I'm gonna have thirty million in the bank, and I'm gonna have the knowledge of what to do with this thirty million. I'm gonna have business acumen, and I'm gonna know everything about the NBA, and I'm gonna be very fundamentally sound. I would never be one and done. I would actually take advantage of the educational system. Everybody always talks about money, But if you're getting nil money, well, I go to the NBA and become a professional, and then you know, get money, get less money.

00:26:14
Speaker 2: Who knows, why haven't you bought a professional sports team yet?

00:26:18
Speaker 5: I'm working on a brother what sport NBA? Okay, in a perfect world, I would love to be part of the Orlando Magic or the Miami Heat. In a perfect world.

00:26:32
Speaker 2: What do you think that that would you would want to be the sole owner or just buy into it?

00:26:37
Speaker 3: Oh?

00:26:37
Speaker 5: No, never the sole own, just you know, limited partner. No, I would love to have that conversation.

00:26:44
Speaker 2: A couple of random questions here the All Star format?

00:26:48
Speaker 5: What do you think I haven't I haven't been paying attention to it, Daniel, Eugene Patrick.

00:26:54
Speaker 2: And okay, but if you have the World against the United States.

00:27:00
Speaker 5: I like it. I like it. I like it, and I think they should add a big monetary reward at the end.

00:27:08
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd be fine with that. I just want I want to know if the guys want to play, they want to compete, and if they don't, then they should not try to fool us. But I think the you know, non Americans European players are going to be playing for pride as well to say are bad? What the five best players in the sport are from outside the United States right now?

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Speaker 5: And I agree with you, And if I was in charge, I wouldn't make it to where they would would definitely have to compete. I put a two million prize at the end. The loser gets nothing and a big old trophy and big old rings and brag rights, saying that the best in the world. You want the Americans the best in the world of not prove it here doing All Star Weekend. If I was in charge, I would have this game cracking.

00:27:55
Speaker 2: Give me the game plan against Joker. If you played against him.

00:28:00
Speaker 5: Every time he shot a three, run by him, posts up in the lane, have with him and his whole team complain about three seconds. I wasn't a pick and roll the defender, so he would definitely get open up the pick and roll because Jamal Murray coming off the pick and roll, I would have to help defishing those guys and they throw back to him. He will probably get every shot he won. Now the question is is he gonna guard me one on one or are they gonna double down with Aaron Gordon. But every time he shot a three, hopefully he missed, I'm just going run right by him and now, and you know, my game plan would be to win, to jump all and try to get him two to two quick foules. But again, I'm not a good pick and roll defender. So he'll definitely get his shot. He'll definitely get his points. But the question is, what are you gonna do with me on the other end.

00:28:48
Speaker 2: Well, the same thing with Wemby. What would be your game plan with Wemby?

00:28:53
Speaker 5: You have to back him under the rim and just throw it down in his face. To jump books is not It's similar to the Kim jump hooks and the little jump hookes, a little cute sea food seat move by the basket. It was not gonna work. You have to dunk on him and try to, you know, intimidate him. He is much lighter than I, so I know I can get to my spot and turn with the elbows up and get him off bounced a little bit, and then try to quick dunc lem. But on the other end, I probably have no answer for him because I'm not known for defense, so I don't know why people always try to make decail. I'm not known for stopping people. And guess what, people are not known for stopping me either. Games like that. When I played against great bigs, it was all about that rhythm. So I remember early against Dave Robinson always being foul trouble with the same day with Patrick Ewan. So I would try to get those guys in foul trouble, but it'll definitely be an exciting game.

00:29:53
Speaker 2: Why do you only have one MVP?

00:29:57
Speaker 3: I don't know.

00:29:58
Speaker 5: I have no idea. Like I I argue with Charles all the time. What's the criteria? You know when you say the most valuable player? I always thought it as an individual as a single player, you know, is it built on teams success? I don't like we needed we need a national m v P NBA criteria on what it takes to be m v P. So there's no questions asked at the end like, oh, he should have got he should have got it. Well, this guy meets all the criteria, whatever the criteria is to become m VP.

00:30:29
Speaker 2: Does the m v P ever come up in conversation when you're around Steve Nash?

00:30:34
Speaker 5: No, not at all.

00:30:36
Speaker 2: Is that a good thing?

00:30:37
Speaker 5: Listen? Listen? Steve was a funeral player, was a great player. And you know in this and and in this thing that we have, and you know you're part of this thing, certain things happen. So they said, whoever they may be, said that he was two time MVP. Oh for me, I have to accept that lipid it, you know, I you know, I joke about it every now and then. But Steve was an MVP cover and he was a person. Steve was. Steve was much watch TV.

00:31:05
Speaker 2: We're talking to Shaquille O'Neill. It's the Shocked Funhouse presented by Credit One Bank. So this is going to be at the Super Bowl. This is going to be in San Francisco's history cal Palace. So you got t pain, Tiesto, disco lines and you DJ Diesel and.

00:31:23
Speaker 5: That and my Miles on there. He's actually a great DJ. This will be for the eighth year in the row, the number one party at Super Bowl. Dan, you've been at Super Bowl where people just standing around and talk and drink cocktails with This is, like I said, presented by Credit One Bank. We got a carnival rides, we got uh we got food, we got refreshments, we got DJs. It's gonna be a great time. And I started this thing eight years ago and was very nervous about how we was gonna go, and went very well, and then we've been taking off since then. For the eighth year in a row, I expected to be crowned the number one party follow about ports illustrated.

00:32:02
Speaker 2: Party, the shack delicious excel gummies.

00:32:06
Speaker 5: Yes, shacklicious excel gummies where people will be uh uh instructed to bite my head off.

00:32:14
Speaker 2: But these are just chocolate. These aren't like No, they're gummies? Are there? Pot gummies?

00:32:20
Speaker 5: Dummies? No, not pot gummies.

00:32:23
Speaker 2: I didn't know. Those are the gummies that I have.

00:32:28
Speaker 5: I am an athlete, sir, I do not I do not partake in such activities.

00:32:33
Speaker 2: You never gotten high? No, no, never tempted?

00:32:39
Speaker 4: No.

00:32:40
Speaker 5: The only thing I do is smoke hookah.

00:32:45
Speaker 2: Did that give you a buzz?

00:32:47
Speaker 4: No?

00:32:48
Speaker 5: I just do it for the smoke.

00:32:50
Speaker 2: What about cigars, yes, cigars too, Oh yeah, cigars. Cigars are great. The Lebron situation now with Luca and then you got Reeves and now Lebron kind of kind of get integrated, reintegrated. Can he be a complimentary player?

00:33:06
Speaker 5: Do you think? I mean? I don't want to be the one that saying Lebron is a complimentary player. It's just that I think Lebron knows and understands that at some point this thing comes to it in and Lebron has always been a team guy first. So know, right now he's integrated. Listen, Austin Reeves is playing lights out. Luca is the leading scorer NBA, He's playing lights out. I mean, little Lebron smart enough to know when that these guys cook and you know, meet me. You know, Lebron say I'll take over. So maybe I'm not gonna be the guy saying Lebron, you need to be a complimentary player. Lebron knows and understand how to win. He knows and and understands how to run a team. And listen, Uh, all the greats go to this point. You know, we have great beginnings, we have great middles, and then at some point it comes to it in Saturs day for me is when there will be no more Lebron, no more Durant, no more Steph Curry, no more Draymond. Like that's gonna be a Saturday for me. And then I have to, you know, reintegrate myself with all these young guys. But you know, watching these guys and you know I'm playing against these guys and you know, see what they did after we after I left the game. Is when those guys are going, I think I'd be a very sadday for me.

00:34:23
Speaker 2: Who will you miss more between Steph Lebron and KD.

00:34:27
Speaker 5: I don't miss all of them. You know they're all great. You know Hardens on that list, My my guy Westbrook's on unless Draymond's on that list, the honest unless, like it'll be it'll be sad for me because I enjoyed watching them guys compete as youngsters and then turn it into the great players, the Hall of famers that they are.

00:34:47
Speaker 2: Uh, how's your free throw shooting?

00:34:50
Speaker 5: Terrible? Only only hit them? Only hit them when I need to hit them.

00:34:55
Speaker 2: You know you tell me that, I know.

00:35:00
Speaker 5: You told me that you No, I've heard you there, that you were there in the finals.

00:35:07
Speaker 2: I don't miss. I don't miss though. I mean people were surprised when you made their surprised when I missed. That's the difference.

00:35:14
Speaker 5: Okay, I hear you.

00:35:18
Speaker 2: Are you challenging me, Daniel, I'll make eight ten blindfolded, Daniel Fitzgerald Patrick? Yes?

00:35:27
Speaker 5: Yeah?

00:35:28
Speaker 2: Am I afraid of you at the line? No?

00:35:32
Speaker 5: Okay? Yeah, Well next time, next time I'm in your city, I'm gonna come by your studio.

00:35:38
Speaker 2: I'm fair enough for you that. But you would have been a three? Would you have been a three point shooter or tried to be if you played now.

00:35:46
Speaker 5: But I would have definitely been able to bring the ball up, initiate the offense called offense, go coast to coast, throw it down. I probably would have only shot the three if we were up more than ten fifteen points. This would get crowd to the name. But I'm not going to shoot five or six threes.

00:36:03
Speaker 2: Hell no, never, all right, I'm just curious if you because big men always want to do what the little guy does.

00:36:10
Speaker 5: Yeah, so you know, dribble and dribble handoffs and you know between the leg and crossover and step back. But I'm not shooting no threes.

00:36:19
Speaker 2: It is the party of all parties. If you're at the Big Game Super Bowl weekend in San Francisco Shack's Funhouse, You're going to have a t Paine tiesto, disco lines and Shack himself DJ Diesel. Tickets on sale today ten am Pacific. Go to Shacks. That's plural, Shacksfunhouse dot com. Shack is aladocious. Thanks again, great to see you, buddy.

00:36:45
Speaker 5: Daniel Oswaldpatrick. I appreciate you