Becoming a Best Ball Bro: Do You Have to Max Enter?

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Speaker 1: JJ, congratulations episode number one thousands, Well done.

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Speaker 2: Man, thank you, thank you. Yeah. As you guys know, a lot of the episodes are like shorter in length, right because that's kind of what the Late Round podcast is all about and what I've been doing for years. But I asked chat ept to estimate the number of hours that all of these episodes were, so, you know, not working on the podcast, but how long in duration these episodes were, and that includes becoming bestball bro, that includes the Late Round perspectives. Do you have any guesses on how many hours the Late Round podcast feed basically has in podcast content right now?

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Speaker 3: Ooh, that's a good one.

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Speaker 1: It's shorter for me. I'm a one point seventy five X bro. But if we're talking one X, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Three weeks, three weeks, three weeks, Okay. So I asked chat GPT. It's forty six freaking days. It's forty six days of podcast content that can almost get you to the start of the NFL season. I'm JJ, and last year I tried my hardest to become a best ball bro. I drafted over five hundred teams. I talked to some of the most successful best ball players in existence, and I admittedly had mixed results. So this year, I'm going to chase that title once again. My plan is a Max Center Draftings millionaire maker, and I'm going to document all of it while talking to the brightest best ball minds and the planning. Last year, I didn't quite get there. But this year, this is going to be the year where I officially become a best ball bro This episode is sponsored by DraftKings. There's no better way to lock in your fantasy dominance early than with Best Ball on Draftings, where you draft once and ride your roster all season long. And right now, Draftings giving all customers I can't miss offer draft one, get one, enter lineup in the fifteen million dollars Best Ball Contest for just twenty dollars, and you'll score another Best Ball ticket to play free for a share of that fifteen million, giving you a second shot to win big. It's easy. Just draft your dream team once, no weekly management required, and let your top scorers automatically start each week across the whole season. Every breakout star, every clutch play, every touchdown will count towards your quest for a share of fifteen million dollars. I'm drafting over there all the time. It's an absolute blast. So down with the DraftKings Daily Fantasy app now to draft a twenty dollars best ball lineup to play for a share of fifteen million dollars, and get a second ticket to play free for a share of that fifteen million. That's two chances to win big without ever setting your lineup again. Draft one, get one only on DraftKings. The Crown is yours. Gambling problem called one hundred gambler In New York call eight seven to seven eight hope end y or text hope end why to four six seven three six nine and Connecticut. Help is available for problem gambling call eight eight eight seven eight nine seven seven seven seven or visit CCPG dot org eighteen plus and most eligible states, but age varies by jurisdics. Eligibility restrictions apply. Voidware prohibited. One per customer enter the Best Ball fifteen million dollars Headliner contest by nine to four to twenty five to get one bonus entry twenty dollars. Entry for required reward expires in thirty days. See terms at draftings dot com. Slash NFL Dash Best Dashball sponsored by dk now back to the show. Welcome into another episode of becoming a Best ball bro. I'm JJ Zacharieson, joined as always by Rich Ryan Rich.

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Speaker 1: What's going on, man, JJ, I am fan fantastic. We're recording this on a Tuesday. I got my Garrett Wilson one handed Cat shirt on because he signed his extension yesterday on Monday, and just before we hopped on to record, Sauce Gardner signed his extension as well. It's joint press conference season in Floram Park, New Jersey. Two guys that are great dudes. From all accounts, I have a birdie in the building and from all accounts, these are two dudes, great young players, Guys that I'm excited for my four year old to get older and watch play for the New York Jets.

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Speaker 3: So very excited.

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Speaker 2: I'd be excited about two overrated players too. It's fine. I understand it's tough as a Jets fan. I'm just kidding. I'm totally kidding. I'm totally kidding. Although Sauce wasn't as strong last year to be fair. To be fair, definitely, but I think that they can turn things around a bit with a a new coaching staff. There.

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Speaker 1: What's scary about Sauce is Sauce definitely had a down year last year, and still if you look at any Perferle metric when it comes to completion percentage, target or target percentage in the offense, he was still like a top ten dude at the position. So even in a down year, and he's never had the chance to play traveling corner, which we would think under Aaron Glenns system a little more aggressive if he would have the chance to play a little more man and get those giant alien arms onto somebody and make some plays.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. No, I'm happy and excited for Jets fans. They're both good players. Obviously, let's hope that Garrett Wilson can can get something going this year with Justin Fields under center. I got a fun guest today. We're not gonna get to that just yet, but I have a fun guest today. I got to talk to David Kitchen COO of Late Round Fantasy Football, someone that you guys have heard me chat with on the Late Round Fantasy Football show on the YouTube channel quite a bit. But first I want to talk about some things, some things that have been going on with me in the best ball streets drafting on DraftKings, There's two main buckets I want to talk through today.

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Speaker 3: Okay.

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Speaker 2: The first one is three tight end builds. Okay, I think three tight end builds are optimal when you're drafting three late round tight ends, especially you know, if Tucker Craft is your tight end one, and then Brenton Strange is your tight end two, and then you kind of throw a dart at tight end three. But I've had a hard time and I've struggled a little bit. I wonder what you've been doing where a lot of these bestball bros Have talked about three tight end builds being optimal, even if at times you drafted in elite tight end. And my issue I have with this is that if you draft Train McBride, if you draft Rock Bauer, if you draft even George Kittle, part of the allure in doing that, in my opinion, is the fact that you're able to capture the same amount of tight end production, are more tight end production, hopefully with just one spot as opposed to using multiple spots. Right, so you can get two tight ends and still be Okay, I'm still getting three tight end builds late, but I'm trying when I get McBride and Bowers and such like. I don't want to feel the need that I need to get three tight ends. Do you think that's the wrong approach.

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Speaker 1: So my gut is with you in that we've talked about it for two years now, based on the early round drafts picks that we make, those selections, those are bets that we are making that they are not only going to have an impact on our point output for the entire season getting us into the playoffs, but in these crucial playoff rounds and in these finales that those bets that we're making are going to be the ones that get us home. So when we invest the capital necessary to get a Bowers or a McBride, I do agree that on the surface, it makes it difficult to then take one of our twenty draft positions and use it on another tight end. That being said, because we have those extra picks, I almost feel like it's somewhat wasteful to not have a sense of security by having a third player in that room who can help us along the way. And what I've been doing in these spots is that third tight end. I almost always try to find somebody that is going to stack with one of my quarterbacks. So at least, even though it might be a later tight end and somebody that I don't I'm not betting on individually to have an impact, it at least correlates with a quarterback that I have or a game that I have already rostered on my team.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. My thing is like, if I'm gonna get let's say I get Trey McBride and then I get I don't know, Breton Strange, I think is probably like the cutoff where you could go either way with a third tight end, right, because if I'm going to draft a tight end before Brenton Strange, that's going to be like a Tucker Craft, And to me, Trey McBrien Tucker Craft, you don't need another tight end, right. But I think I think that the attractiveness of going McBride or Bowers in these scenarios and still going three tight end would be getting two tight ends in the final three rounds of your draft and that being it and not worrying about tight end in between and then stacking that way. So I think that's what I'm going three tight end, but I also want to force it. I'm fine with getting two tight ends even though three tight ends are probably generally optimal. The one thing I do want to talk about though today, in more detail, is not falling behind at quarterback. I think anyone who drafts on DraftKings notices this more and more as they draft more and more. And we talked about We've been talking about this for weeks on this show, but I want to give you a real life example so people can really wrap their heads around what's going on at quarterback over on DK. Okay, So I was in a draft yesterday. I had the one oh three. I took Justin Jefferson first overall in that draft. First, you know, with my first first round pick in that draft. Here's how my first ten rounds went. Okay, Justin Jefferson, Jonathan Taylor, Tyreek Hill, Amarion Hampton, Jalen Waddle because I wanted to pair him with Tyreek Hill, Chris Godwin as a bringback for that Miami game, Jacoby Myers, Jordan Mason, Jalen Warren, and JJ McCarthy. So for the first ten rounds, I felt pretty decent, like, you know, not like the most amazing team in the world, but you know, you had some correlation with the pass catchers. You had to bring back situation with Miami Tampa Bay. You had Minnesota stack with Justin Jefferson, Jordan Mason, and JJ McCarthy. And then I was at the eleven O three and in the eleventh round. I sat there and I said, look, I could get Tua right now and draft him, what fifteen picks ahead of ADP, something around along those lines, fifteen to twenty picks ahead of ADP. Or I could wait for it to come back to me and hope that Tua falls three picks after ADP. Okay, because his ADP was one thirty nine I believe, and I was at one forty two if I remember correctly, And so I decided to pass on Tua and I took Jayden Higgins because what Jayden Higgins did for my team is number one. Paired him up with A Mari and Hampton for Week seventeen, but also opened up an opportunity for another stack of C. J. Stroud going with c J. Stroud and Jayden Higgins. You know, obviously I wanted Tua because I had Tyreek Hill and Jylen Waddle. Stroud goes mid round twelve, which I think objectively is too early for him, but whatever he goes mid round, you know, mid round twelve, Tua goes unstacked one pick before me. Okay, very tilting, very tilting, only because it was one pick. People like I would have rather Tua went like three picks after I had decided not to take him. Right now, I'm in a sitch a situation then where I'm in round twelve, the end of round twelve, and I only have JJ McCarthy, So if I pass on a quarterback, I run a serious risk of not having three starters on my team. And I know with a build where JJ McCarthy's my QB one, I'm gonna need three starters, right and most builds I'm taking three quarterbacks, but let alone when my first quarterback is being taken, you know, in the in the tenth round, in the late tenth round. So what I ended up doing, I forced, you know, getting Bryce Young because I knew there were stackable pieces after that, which is part of the reason why I have a lot of Bryce Young right now, is because he's just the desperation, emergency to kind of quarterback in that situation. And then I took Geno Smith in the very next round ahead of ADP because I had Jacobe Myers right. But I look at that board, okay, and I look at it after the fact. I think, in the moment, of course, I would have rather had two than Jayden Higgins to complete that stack. But I think in the moment the decisions I made were not necessarily the wrong decisions to make, right. But I look at the board in hindsight and justin Herbert based went around before Bryce Young did before I took Bryce Young. But I don't even think my Bryce Young pick was a bad pick. I think I had to do that based on how the market is reacting these quarterbacks. Jordan Love went eleven picks before Bryce Young. I like Bryce Young a lot. He's a late round dart throw spoiler alert in the late round draft guide. But Jordan Love, I think is objectively like the better fantasy asset, right, Only eleven picks before the value of those players are just so much value. It was so much better than the value that I got with Bryce Young. And I think this is the more that I've thought about this, and I feel like we've brought this up so often on the show, but haven't had like a conclusion or like cohesive thought like totally cohesive thought to it all. And the more that I think about this, the more I think the reason, and I probably know the reason that these quarterbacks feel like their ADPs are rising is because when we're forced to reach for these quarterbacks, there ADP's ride, and when they're ADPs rise. Even in a scenario where you don't need to reach for a quarterback, you're just gonna draft that quarterback at ADP.

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Speaker 1: Oh, I have pick one twenty seven, this quarterback is getting taken at one twenty five.

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Speaker 3: I should just take this guy. That's what these people are.

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Speaker 2: Doing exactly exactly, And so we're in this vicious cycle. And again, this has been in our minds for a while now, but we haven't really fully articulated it right, Like we haven't just like thrown it out there in this way, and I really wanted to throw it out there in this way. But this is why, at the end of the day, we're seeing what we're seeing with some of these QB twos in some drafts, and you'll see it fluctuate like some drafts, CJ. Stroud will fall a little bit, or Trevor Lawrence will fall a little bit, and like if you're lucky enough to need that player for a stack to complete a stack, and he just falls into your lap. That's like, you know, it's a rarity these days. It probably happens like one every fifteen drafts. But that's great that if that ends up happening. But this is why I think if you can get one of those round nine, round ten quarterbacks in best ball at the moment, that tier of like maybe Bo Nicks to let's say Dak something along those lines, like those types of players, and you compare them immediately with another one, you have the flexibility then to really push the market and push the draft board later, where you know, if someone doesn't want to get Cam Warn, someone doesn't want to get Aaron Rodgers, there's your QB three that you can push later. And in a worst case scenario, you can still have two quarterbacks and be okay, you know, if you have Dak Prescott. I'm not looking at Bieeks or anything right now, but if you have like Kyler and Dak Prescott, you're okay with two quarterbacks. You don't necessarily absolutely need three quarterbacks. So then I was thinking, okay, let's say that you get into round nine and you don't have stackable players for a certain quarterback in that range, and I think what I need to do is just force it a little bit more, even more even though I'm I'm over exposed to these guys to begin with, at least versus expectation. But like, I think forcing it a little bit more with Kyler and with just Fields because those two Kyler you can get Michael Wilson late. Justin Fields, you have the mobility obviously Mason Taylor, and then you have even Reynolds if you want to go super late, you know, with a just a random player in round twenty that's not getting drafted in every single Millie right now. It's difficult to do it with brock Purty because all of his pass catchers go before brock Purty gets drafted. It's difficult to do it with Caleb Williams. Maybe not though if Colston Lovelin, you know, you could still go that route. So I don't want to totally throw that out. And it's it's almost impossible to do with Dak Prescott because I mean, you could technically get Jake Ferguson and pair them with Jayden Blue maybe, but you're really asking for like a very specific outcome in that case in my opinion, and then there's some other guys you know later that you can do it with, of course, but I'm thinking about that area of the draft where you're maximizing value in terms of points per game with those players, because the guys who are going who should be going way later are now going not way later. And so what that does is it makes the round nine to ten guys more valuable because you're getting a better deal on them versus the deal you're getting on a mid to low on QB two. Right, And so who are the guys that we can really focus on that we can stack later if we don't have that stack. Kyler and Justin Fields, I think are the two that we should probably like, I'm just trying to like narrow my exposure down a little bit more, but I think we should be over exposed to those guys just based on this alone and based on these market dynamics alone. Do you think that this is all logical?

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Speaker 1: Yes, I think at some point you need to just pull the rip chord at times and take a quarterback before ADP determines right. We almost have to think of these quarterbacks as like ADP round ranges as opposed to adp the specific draft slot position, because when we start to do that, we put ourselves in positions where, oh, you know, I'm taking this guy half round early or three quarters are around early, and you feel kind of ikey about doing that. But to draft the most optimal team based on the players selected before that point, sometimes you just got to do that and just take the quarterback and fill in your roster and make it as optimal as possible. One of the later guys you brought up two great a couple of great mid round quarterbacks there. One of the later guys that has just been a great rip chord for me is Daniel Jones. This morning had an absolute catastrophe at the quarterback position. I actually was able to pull the rip chord and I built a base. Shall toot in Daniel Jones Ady Mitchell game stack within the last couple of rounds, pull the ripcord, get it in there, get some value. Maybe not the greatest names when you come to the Jones and Ady Mitchell, but they are correlated. They have upside. So if you are going to risk it, if you are going to play like the max leverage and wait, you have to be able to pull the ripcord and get these creative stacks later. But at the end of the day, you just don't be so married to ADP and some of these spots at quarterback and if it needs to be treated as a separate position completely.

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Speaker 2: This is why when I looked at my exposure and I like, I have a ton of bon Knicks right now, and I think, this is why I have a lot of bon Nicks, just like subconsciously, he will get drafted at ADP pretty frequently because people aren't necessarily reaching for knicks because they don't need to reach for knicks at that time because there's a lot of other quarterbacks still available. So they're like, oh, yeah, I don't necessarily need to force the issue unless I have Courtland Sutton or something like that. But we know that people still aren't drafting based on correlation anyway, and they're not drafting based on that to begin with. So I've been getting b Nicks naked. Sometimes they'll get Evan Ingram, but I don't even need Evan Ingram because you can get Marvin Mims, you can get Devon Veley, you can get all these random wide receiver pieces. While while Nix himself and JK. Dobbins is a running back, while Nix himself, you know, has mobility and rushing upside where he could have standalone upside with a multiple rushing touchdown game. That to me is really interesting. So I'm getting Nicks even like, I'm fine getting him naked for sure and drafting him and he'll fall past ADP And then when he does fall past, you're getting a massive value because you know the other quarterbacks are going to be going higher than they probably should.

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Speaker 1: And it's only going to get worse. We're at the start or the middle of July. Now you've got the great offer of draft one, get one from draft Kings right now. I was in a group chat with some of my buddies from elon chat out Elon yesterday. They got some DraftKings offers to draft best Ball this week as well. So these officers are only going to go out more casual players are only going to start getting interested into football now and headed into August and closer to the season. So this quarterback fixation, I fear will only get more intense the closer we get to kick off.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. My only thing with that is I wonder I don't have the answer to this. I'm just thinking out loud. I wonder if when more casual players come in and enter the fold, if they're going to draft that upper tier of quarterbacks higher. I'm not even talking about the elite tier, but just the next guys, right, if they're gonna because if all those guys start to get boosted up more, then it's actually gonna make them finally QB two's feel a little bit more easier in giving us a decent appetite to draft them, you know, because of that as well. But like I also what's interesting to me is that like Jackson Dart for instance, is not moving that much an ADP right while while all not not to say that he's going to be a stud or that he's going to start all season, but if you get two really solid quarterbacks and you feel really good about them, and you can wait and quite literally throw the dart at Dart and get him, you know in it like far far past where the other guys are going, simply because those other guys have that season long a lore in that season long upside. But that to me is a perfect QB three situation because he's probably going to be starting during the most important part of the fantasy season, which is the Fantasy playoffs.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think the guys that have the stink on them, whether it be the organization out there or they're coming off of that season, Like Jordan Love. Jordan Love has been slipping this entire summer long draft process because he had a less than stellar season last year based on everybody's hype going into last year, all these weapons, great coaching staff, and Yeah, Jackson Dart down seventeen picks since we started doing this in May. Like, are is the casual dude who gets this DK offer going to go in there, march in there and put.

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Speaker 3: Jackson Dart on his team? I'm not too sure.

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Speaker 2: I also, like, I do think that Dart is likely. Like, if you're gonna look at the Giants quarterbacks, would you not say that Jackson Dart is the most likely to be starting during the Fantasy playoffs this year?

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Speaker 3: Oh, one hundred percent.

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Speaker 2: Like.

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Speaker 1: The only scenario with which I'm not betting on Jackson Dart playing. The most meaningful snaps for us in these contests is in some scenario where where Dable's trying to protect his job, the Giants have somehow gotten out to a playoff contention spot where they're battling for the seven season.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, some miraculous start.

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Speaker 1: Other than that, if this goes as expected based on their Vegas win total and they struggle a little bit, and it seems like Dave Ball's got some buy in from ownership that they get to Groom Jackson Dart, it seems most logical that Dart will be playing these snaps.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, so I'm trying to get a little bit more of him whenever I do get two of those, like pretty good, you know, solid cos if you get around ten and around eleven quarterback, I feel like going with Dart as your QB three is actually pretty sharp given the value that you're getting out of that. With the QB two's rising the way they are in ADP.

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Speaker 1: It gets super cliffe after that, right if we were talking Flacco, Russell, Wilson, Schauder, Sanders, Jalon Milroe.

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Speaker 3: Like like in any of that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm hoping we get some clarity of QB two in Cleveland if we assume Flacco starts the season and then we can say, okay, Shoudar is going to be the one that's starting, you know, towards the end of the year and we can throw those like night.

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Speaker 3: Want to bet on.

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Speaker 1: I want to bet on shouldar right, like right rookie quarterback for all the things that have been said about him, like he's a pretty good thrower of the ball, very accurate. Colorado didn't have a good offensive line, so he had to perform in chaos a lot last year. So it's the type of last round quarterback that I want in these things. But like you said, if there's no clarity as to who's the QB two, it's kind of too dangerous to make that pick right now.

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Speaker 2: All right, So there's the rant about the quarterback landscape right now. Now that we're all on the same page, let's move on to this interview David Kitchen. Like I said, he's a former DraftKings pro and the current COO of this little company called Late Round Fantasy Football. We talked about Max entering contests, changes that he's seen in the best ball streets in the fantasy industry through the years, Elite tight ends, the changing quarterback landscape, So a similar discussion to what we just talked about, so much more. It was a great conversation, a lot of fun. So without further Ado. Here is that interview with David Kitchen. All right, Kitchen, you were once a DraftKings Pro and you've been around the fantasy football streets for over a day now, it's been a minute, So I got to ask you, what do you think is change the most the way that people just generally draft and what makes drafting easier or more difficult these days?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, JJ, thanks for bringing up the DraftKings Pro days. You know that was like during the beginning of Daily Fantasy, like the peak of DFS, and I think we're getting we're starting to get to that point in best Ball as well, where it's becoming more and more mainstream. People are rolling out content earlier and earlier. Sites are rolling out their contest earlier and earlier. So I think for as far as the drafting goes, we still haven't reached the peak for what best ball is. I think it's going to be like mainstream. And so if you're asking, like the biggest ways that people are drafting now, definitely stacks on DraftKings, Definitely taking quarterbacks earlier. And you're like, no, because you've been drafting with this mindset of you want to get these quarterbacks later, and you want to just yell at the chat that they're doing it wrong, But when everybody's doing it, you have to also kind of adapt and participate. So I guess I would say is like the way the different way people are drafting is that game theory is much more involved than it was back in the old days. You know, back when the MFL ten days. Then it was just draft the best guys you could and and hope those guys get you the most points possible at the end of the day.

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Speaker 2: At the end of the day, I know I'm becoming a best ball bro, but I don't think people realize that. Like I was playing, not to the volume that I'm playing now, like on draftings and so on, but like MFL tens were a thing, and look, this is also back when I was younger and didn't have the same disposable income and stuff like, right, Like this is like very very early on in the fantasy football industry days, at least compared to where things are now. And I think back on that, I feel like it was just people were just they had no true strategy when they were drafting those teams.

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Speaker 4: But it was so fun and that was the whole point. Like I remember in our like DK pros Best Ball or in our DK pro's chat, Levitan Adam Levittan and we were talking about let's let's we should all start a best ball site and then we got looking into the you know, all the regulations and but that was the whole point is up until then, you had to participate in a mock draft to get your beek wet in like June or July. Now people are drafting before the NFL draft has even taken place, and they are trying to account for whatever they can to get the largest like ev over over the playing field. And now you have tools. And that has also followed the DFS side of things, where when DFS first came out, people didn't really have projections to look at the going they're drafting or putting their teams together with vibes and all handbuilt. Now you have some optimizers that are making it easy to enter one hundred and fifty teams well to see like the SIMS. And so you're seeing more advanced tools come into this space, especially these large format fields, these millionaire maker fields that people are using. And yet people are still winning a millionaire maker with one bullet, just like they did back in the other day. So I think we're seeing the Best Ball scene kind of imitate the career arc that DFS has, except I think Best Ball just continue going bigger and bigger.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I do too, because I think the difference is pretty obvious in that, like the economy of Best Ball, and like the the strategy and like the thinking around Best Ball compares so much more similarly to Season Long than DFF because, like I literally, and I've been open about this, I stopped playing DFS a few years ago. Yeah, because I just it's a different beast play, right, It's a different research orient and things like it's harder when that's not your focus, and it wasn't my focus, right, So I was like, Okay, well, I'm not putting the time into this, so it's more difficult for me to go to go do this. Not not to say that you shouldn't play THEDFS, I think that you should still play DFS, but I just think, thank you. Yeah, No, I don't mean you, I mean I mean listeners out there. Yeah, but I do agree that, like there's just more of a one to one relationship with Season Long obviously with Best Ball and and everyone in the fantasy space knows what season long is. That's the top of the funnel, like, that's that's where people are coming in and getting introduced to fantasy football. So it's naturally kind of like a next iteration to get the best ball MFL tens. By the way, they were only twelve team leagues too, right, there were no tournaments.

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Speaker 4: There are no tournaments. Everything was ten dollars. So that's when we again back in. I remember art sports and some of these sites that you would you would try to get like a draft slot that night, yeah, and or like the next day, and so you'd plan the whole day trying to get into this this draft the following night that was online. Otherwise you had to you know, organize something with your friends. And then MFL ten's kind of normalized being able to get in a draft, Hey, putting a link out there and be like, all right, who wants to get in this draft? And then it's starting and immediately getting that rush of drafting, which is the best part of fantasy football. And I think it also you know, we had to do mock drafts. Those were the absolute worst because you had people that would just get in and get out and not take it seriously. It wasn't mimicking anything. And so I think that, you know, if you have a few bucks to spend, you can just enter however many drafts you want or your budget allows, and you will immediately be more prepared for your season long team than you would if you didn't.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so you kind of mentioned having like a single bullet in a contest, you know, like, I'm obviously documenting my journey in max entering the Millie and that's one hundred fIF the entries and I'm at seventy right now? Am I ahead of you?

00:30:03
Speaker 4: Now?

00:30:03
Speaker 2: Are you? Are you at the time?

00:30:04
Speaker 4: I'm at seventy five?

00:30:06
Speaker 2: Okay, so but you are? You are catching up?

00:30:08
Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah h so yeah. I mean like, like, do you think that it's uber important to be able to max enter a contest like this to have a chance to win a contest like this? I think this is the argument that we've heard for years and years and years in the DFF space, is that you're at a huge advantage if you're able to max enter a tournament versus just you know, and that's why more and more single entry stuff has come out and whatnot. But you still see some single entry contests on DraftKings, but like with the million in particular, this like big flagship type contest. Do you think that people are at some sort of disadvantage by only having five lineups versus the one fifty?

00:30:47
Speaker 4: Yeah, And this is kind of mimix for me that the DFS days as well, because back in the day, you're max entering things and now you know, I'm just not rich enough to be max entering a millionaire like all these millionaire and high profile contests that they have. However, all max in are a lot of the three the single entry, the three max and even like the twenty entry, and that will get me to where I want to be. And then I'll create one or two tournament teams and make sure I put them in the MILLI because like I call it an emotional hedge because if you just imagine the scenario where your tournament team wins the three dollars or the you know, one dollar league, and then like if I had just put that into the MILLI, it would have wanted you know, that's that's tough to come back from. So I think, and this might be contralling to how some people think I think number one should be like you're playing for entertainment, You're playing so that I guarantee you even though I play DFS every week during football season, when Week sixteen and Week seventeen comes around, it doesn't matter how much money I have in DFS contest, I am glued to those playoff best ball you know, my teams that had advanced to that next round, that round fifteen, sixteen seventeen. So that for me is like you're you're checking in teams or if your DFS teams aren't doing good during the year, you immediately go to your bestball teams and say, like, all right, who are something? Who are some of the teams that like I did something right back in the day. So if you look at someone put together like a chart, a comparison chart, the five of the top seven contests offered like with their scoring platform, we're on DraftKings, and you got the pocket passer, which is like the two hundred and fifty dollars entry, like not many people have two or three dollars, but it's a single entry. And then you've got like the fifty dollars three max. But then you've got the huddle, which is a five dollar and you've got the button hook, which is a three dollars, and those are also in that that top seven and so right there, if you've got thirty two dollars, you have as much of a chance as the next guy.

00:33:07
Speaker 2: Yeah, girl, you know.

00:33:08
Speaker 4: So my thing is like, depending on your budget, play as much as you want to for the entertainment sake. Put a couple in the milli and then make sure you're getting those low dollars single entry, three max, five max, because at the end of the day, you know, it's it's about the entertainment aspect of things.

00:33:27
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think that sites have done a better job of offering you know, lower lower stix contests that you can at least like test and see how good you are at these games versus you know, the market if you will, even with ten bucks, just to see how you compare to them, and then you can you know, either make the argument, hey, if I had a bigger bank roll than I would be dominating the milli the way that some people some other people are, or you'll realize that even when you are max entering a contest, it still doesn't guarantee you anything. You know, at the end of the day, there's still a lot that goes into it, and a lot of strategy that goes in.

00:34:02
Speaker 4: Well, they've got they've got like that twenty max three dollars, right, so for sixty dollars you can play twenty drafts. That's a lot, especially if you do and I encourage people when they first start. You know, my normy friends, is like just getting a slow draft because it's gonna take you a week, but then you'll have time in between picks to research and it's just like a gradual thing where you do that and by the time your draft comes you and if you've already done twenty drafts, you have a pretty good feel at least like where people are. Because in our like friends and family leagues, you're gonna get people that bring like their magazines. Nothing against magazines, but or you know.

00:34:43
Speaker 2: You're gonna get magazines, but yeah, yeah, right, get an electronic draft guide instead.

00:34:50
Speaker 4: Some some are saying that what I think it's is that you do you offer the is it the late round draft guide? Some are saying yeah, we're saying it.

00:35:00
Speaker 2: Yes, it's the best ever.

00:35:02
Speaker 4: But yeah, people don't even realize that like new teams that players are on. So if you've been drafting all summer, you're immediately going to get a leg up on that. So those are some of the things, you know, we talk about just translating from because when we're talking in our little bubble sometimes we're talking about like the people that one hundred and fifty max and if you don't have like three grand to blow on drafts, which I get.

00:35:24
Speaker 2: Not many people should or would you know, that's just what it is. Yeah.

00:35:27
Speaker 4: And the other thing is when you have one hundred and fifty bullets in a draft, towards the end, especially, you're gonna get weird with some things because you're getting tired of drafting the same team, so you're not making as many teams as possible. That's why I would just I would not go into a single draft plan like I've got to do this or this format. If you're not like maxing it out or I got to get like even exposure. I would go with the guys that you like, Yeah, go with the guys that JJ you know, has talked about or they've talked about in them becoming a best ball Brokes. That's it's kind of how I do.

00:35:58
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's really an important thing. And I've seen a lot this offseason where like analysts on Twitter and such are like there's too much content, or people on Twitter are like there's too much content where the analyst is speaking to other analysts, the analyst is speaking to other you know, high volume, high stakes players.

00:36:18
Speaker 4: You have to even out your entries. Everybody has an eight percent of a player.

00:36:21
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, And I think it's really important that I think the questions, hopefully the questions that I've asked on this show on becoming a best ball bro have helped people with game theory and all that kind of stuff. But there's also instances where like when the person on the show, when the guest on the show is talking about like evening out exposure and getting exped even in my live streams that I do where I drafted Derrick Henry the other day because I don't want to I don't want to walk away with only two percent Derrick Henry this year, Like that's frightening, right, and so like like, but I'm doing that because of the fact that I know I'm gonna have a lot of lineups. But if you're only gonna have twenty, just go for just just go with what your recent searching gut says, instead of necessarily evening things out, because you're putting more money in and you have the opportunity to really flatten that explode.

00:37:08
Speaker 4: For sure, And that's why you gotta you. You just have to trust yourself and the people that you choose. And at the end of the day, it's not exactly a lottery ticket, right, because like there is skill, there is correlation. They're stacking everything involved, but your chances of winning a million, you just have to like be real. You know, there's like eight hundred thousand people in this contest. To even make it to week seventeen, that thousand team field is going to be like a huge accomplishment in and of itself.

00:37:40
Speaker 2: Yes, exactly, exactly, all right, So you kind of mentioned what you always referred to as normies when you and I are having discussions and talking about things, and you mentioned your your league mates and your home league as normies. More and more normies, if you will. And by the way, I'm a normy, So I have to preface with this too when when I say normies, when you say normies, they're more normal people, right, We're the abnormal people. We're the ones that have a problem and talking about this in May and June and stuff like that, right, correct, But they're getting they're getting thrown into the mix here in mid July, Like this is kind of the time of year where we start to see more people who are more casual with this joining best ball contests and stuff. Do you think that there's almost this entitlement that sort of started and has occurred with higher stakes slash higher volume best ball players where they almost think that they deserve a certain player when they go after a stack. Like you know, one thing that Pat Karine really drove home with me at the beginning of the series this year was to really not tilt when you get sniped with your stack, because that stack number one, you can be a little bit different with the stack. Like for instance, you know, I had Tyreek Hill and Jalen Waddle and someone right before me picked Tuoa, right, and that's super, super frustrating. But at the same time, I would bet that a lot of teams with Tyreek Hill and Jalen Waddle are thinking with a stacking mindset and most of them probably would then have Tua. And so if you don't have to a number one, you get dolphins correlation just naturally. But also you know, there's there's instances where they both could have good games and TUA is still like a mid QB one and not necessarily like a high end QB one. But I I've noticed this in the space a lot, and I think that people will resonate with this idea that you know, a good example of this is with Joe Burrow this year and the Bengals and how Jamar Chase and t Higgins are often you know, Jamar Chase goes one on one, t Higgins a two three turn guy, Trey McBride as a week seventeen stack you know, will go at that two three turn as well, and then someone might pass on Burrow who drafted those three players at the four or five turn, and then someone takes Burrow mid fifth, which is passes Adpa, and then people get mad because oh, I'm the one who's stacking the Bengals. Like do you think There's a lot of that going on? And it's almost not good for this game in a way.

00:40:00
Speaker 4: Uh, to some extent. Also, we live in that's that bubble on you know, on x on, on Blue Sky and Reddit, in discords, so and it's especially the first time you get because you feel like you have worked your way into something where you have prepared for something. But the beautiful thing about best Ball and drafts and in particular is that you you don't know how the other eleven are going to feel about this, Like you don't know what they're thinking, or like if they even have it. So there is some like entitlement, But I don't if someone has entitlement, I just say, like, brush it off, because like there are going to be times where you if you're going by ADP, you're just gonna be like, I cannot believe I did not get that stack, Like that quarterback is supposed to be there for me, right, And I just think you have to realize it's a part of the game. And so I don't think that people. I don't think it's ruining the game. I don't think it's harnishing what we're doing, because there are also especially on DraftKings or twenty rounds, there are multiple ways to stack teams. Yeah, and quarterbacks are going earlier. And so I think that was the thing with me that was most frustrating is feeling like everyone else had to have the same mindset of me that you can only draft certain quarterbacks later on, and now they're being like pushed up, and so I've had to adapt instead of wanting them to adapt to what I think is right.

00:41:34
Speaker 2: That's right. I think that's really key though, because I think the best players are the ones who are adapting to that, as opposed to expecting the room to fall into their lap the way that they wanted to fall into their lap, right, Like, the best players at the end of the day are going to be the ones who are adjusting to what the market is doing. And we've seen the market change, especially quarterback. You know, I talked about that with Rich before the intro of the show, So yeah, I mean it's it's definitely something that that I think folks should keep in mind. I just you know, I've had I had my fair share of tilts, and I've I've shared those tilts on the show and I've seen him, Yeah, in mostly a joking way, but I do think that you you know, have to like when people can play. You know, if you have pokin Akua and DeVante Adams and someone takes Matthew Stafford in round six, that's pretty tilting, right, That's a frustrating outcome. But if you have pookin Akua and and DeVante Adams and you are waiting for Stafford to fall to ADP, and you're waiting for after ADP because even like the two example that I just shared, technically his his overall ADP I think at the time was one thirty nine and I was at one forty two. Technically he went a little bit after ADP, you know, pick or two after ADP. And I can't be like that that mad because I pushed it, right. I could have taken him around earlier and felt fine about it, but I pushed it a little bit to extract more value. And that's the game that we play at the end of the Yeah.

00:42:49
Speaker 4: And that's and that's that's exactly when you push it and you don't try to get them around early, you're you're playing with fire.

00:42:58
Speaker 2: Yeah on DK because it's fun. Though that's also part of the fun, like.

00:43:02
Speaker 4: You just exactly, it's that risk reward. You have to a few things, like you have to tell yourself that every lineup tells a story, you know, just like in DFS, like every lineup tells the story. So even if someone snipes your quarterback, it's still possible for your guys to go off because there are injuries in this game. Sure you know there are. There's a way for an unstacked two unstacked players to still be in the championship and at least like advance your team to that week seventeen to where hopefully you have a stack or some sort of game stack that can help win.

00:43:39
Speaker 2: Right, exactly. All right, let's talk more about how you're drafting and sort of how you're thinking about things this year. How do you look at drafts and how do you sort of shift your mindset with there being two extra rounds on DraftKings compared to like an underdog.

00:43:53
Speaker 4: Yeah, and this is like one of the things that when we were talking about before we were drafting on DraftKings, I told you, like I DraftKings has been my my preference to draft. I enjoy drafting. I mean it could be like a made up site and I would enjoy just the process of drafting. But when it comes to best Ball, I love the twenty the twenty rounds, I love playing. I'm already playing dfs like on DraftKings, So I like the bonuses. I like more points for PPR instead of half PPR. And I like that it's a little bit softer. You know, on on other sites, you're you're people are heavily tethered to ADP, and so just like your your ADP what you're supposed to And you get some sharp people on DraftKings, some you just never know sometimes.

00:44:44
Speaker 2: So and and there's falling values often and and so and that's and so you're having to really adjust, like, Okay, do I want to stack this guy or do I want to.

00:44:54
Speaker 4: Take the guy who's like thirty spots past ADP. Right. And That's why I loved when Leona is like, I'll anything if they drop far up, you know, on the Becoming a Best Bro episode, because that's how I am, too, Like, I'll blow it all. I'll blow the whole plan up, if you know, if a Round nine guy drops around eleven, right, you know, let's have let's have some fun here. But the twenty rounds every year is different. A couple of years ago, I felt like there's just immense value at running back and so and a few tight ends. Now I actually feel like there's a lot of value at wide receiver. Yeah, in the nineteenth and twentieth round, and typically that's not the case. But you've got some guys that you've talked about, you know, Velea Ady Mitchell I, like Elijah Moore just as a potential just dart throw, but you got two extra dart throws basically, and so it allows you to get For me, you're not getting a You're likely not getting a quarterback like you used to be able to in rounds nineteen or twenty. So you're getting a tight end three, or you're getting a wide receiver that has some sort of big upside, you know, big play potential, let's spike week potential. But the way that I've been drafting this year is the alpha running back situation. I have been pushing running backs further and further down the board.

00:46:12
Speaker 2: Yeah. The thing for me is like in those nineteen twenty it's like, like you said, you're getting your ten and three, you're getting a random dart throw wide out, which like eighty Mitchell for instance, just given the talent profile and like his open rate score and stuff last year, shouldn't be like he goes undrafted sometimes or you know, like the von veele i mentioned last week and I'll you know you mentioned just now, or you're getting a day three running back like a random dart throw right, Day three running back that jaj Brooks. Yeah, yeah, Krossky Merrit, just some random random guys that. Yeah, for those of you listening, Kitchen gave me kind of a grimacing look with the with the Krossky Merrit stuff. But yeah, I mean, like I I'm very open to the range of outcomes of those running backs in that range too, just because you know, Day three running backs. I haven't found there to be insane correlation with the kind of profiles they emerged with, right whereas the model, you know, the z that model is a lot more focused on some of the Day one and Day two attributes because that's what's more important. Day three is just kind of it's not totally out the window, but you know, there's there's a little bit more, a little wider range that we can a wider net. I guess you could say that we can accept with with their those kinds of profiles of those players.

00:47:25
Speaker 4: Well, especially with this running back class and that we've talked about, and as we gek closer to training camp reports, some things will come a little bit more into picture. You know. Right now you've got some teams with four or five running backs on the roster, So you're just like blindly picking players. You're going to have more players like Okay, this guy is not doing well, I was on the bubble, or he's got an injury, and and so you're gonna be able to draft those nineteenth or twentieth round guys with more confidence and probably more you know, grouping them together with your exposure.

00:48:00
Speaker 2: Yeah, Another question I have for you is that as you're entering a draft, are you actively thinking about lineup construction immediately when you get that draft slot or are you just kind of going off of what the board gives you. And then my question is, because this is what I think ruined me a bit last year. When I do and kind of take what the board gives me, I feel like my roster construction ends up just being the same. And then when your roster construction is the same, you often get similar players and you're just not necessarily diversifying properly. Like when you're going into a draft, are you saying to yourself, Okay, I'll probably go here RB and then you mostly go here RB or are you saying at times, okay, you know what, I'm in the ninth spot if Derrick Henry falls to me, I'm definitely taking Derrick Henry, or if you know, I'm definitely gonna go with Jonathan Taylor if I'm in the three spot, if Jonathan Taylor is there in the second round, because I want to start to build some teams that are more running back heavy.

00:48:54
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't really go into it with any sort of like unless unless something has happened, you know, unless we get like quin Shawn Judkin news where I'm like, I'm gonna go in this draft and I'm gonna get Jerome for you know, in the eighteenth round, and that's that's the whole purpose of this draft. Or after listening to your last Becoming a Best ball Ball episode, it's like, okay, I've got two percent Laporta. I need to laport A team right right, whatever it is, I'm gonna get a Laporta team this So those are the only times that I do it is if I see something and I'm like, okay, I I need they're making a good point. I need some exposure to that player. I need a team with that guy. Now, there were some guys I just I refuse to draft and if they burn me, they burn me. But you know, by by and large, I'm going into the draft, especially those first three or four rounds, they'll tell you what you're gonna get, right and uh, you know, we'll probably talk about this later, but I'm trying to get an elite tight end. I'm trying to get some like some elite pass catchers and then maybe one running back. And so a lot of my bills have been like one like one quarterback, one running back, five or six receivers and then one tight end. And I feel like with that start, that's going to give me a like a big chance on DraftKings where people are just like drafting any quarterback in the twelfth round that they can if I can get a semi decent quarterback, an elite tight end, and then a semi decent running back and then a lot of good pass catchers. Zero RB hopefully is not is not completely dead.

00:50:44
Speaker 2: Yeah, not totally dust. Okay, So you mentioned that you're getting a elite tight end, are you? Are you including George Kittle in that is the top three for you? And then you mentioned you didn't have that much laporta. Yeahs I do not either, And I've been trying to get a little bit more a little bit. I still my thing with Laporta is I don't think the gap between Laporta to Hockinson should be as big as it is. And that's my issue with it. And I'm not you know, I'm not actively drafting Hockinson, but like but but yes, like number one, I totally agree with reacting to news items before the market can right. Good example that was Devon a Chan right whenever the John new Smith thing happened, he was going a little bit later than he does now. And if you drafted immediately after that happened, you could still get a Chan at his you know, older ADP.

00:51:30
Speaker 4: Yeah, because ADP just kind of creeps down, down, down that it's not all of a sudden yeah.

00:51:35
Speaker 2: Right, right, And and look, I mean I know that he only rose like three or four spots. That's three or four spots in the early rounds, Like that's all.

00:51:40
Speaker 4: Well, he's still going Like sometimes you're gonna you're getting people drafting mem in the first round right where at the edge of the turn. Like it's it's from a philosophy standpoint, someone going directly into the like first round potential is big because then it's gonna push. I've been getting genty in the second round sometimes, and I think that's probably because of the eight chn news.

00:52:01
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly exactly, So I do think it's important to react to news in that way and maybe even force it a little bit, just because you know that you're gonna get an ADP value that way. So I think it's a really good point, you know, to call out there. Let's talk about the quarterback stuff though, because you mentioned our quarterback. The market is just kind of wild and these QB twos keep being pushed up and stuff as your quarterback approach change, like are you getting the elite guys or is it just too difficult if you're getting an elite tight end as frequently as you are.

00:52:28
Speaker 4: I'm getting some of the elite guys, and I'm trying to I'm trying to not just go all in. If the rankings say, you know that we get on Patreon as a as a late round member, if the rankings have like Josh Allen as the best value, like I still am like, Okay, well I have enough Josh Allen. I need to get some other guys because I feel I feel good about that, you know, around pick ninety to you know one to ten. Yeah, I feel good about some of those guys that have high potential there. But past years, I would have never had three quarterbacks by round twelve, right, And now it's it's almost a given.

00:53:15
Speaker 2: You almost have to.

00:53:16
Speaker 4: You almost have to. Yeah, And so you're taking you know, we're not this is super flex and you're taking three quarterbacks because that's probably the optimal build. And again it has changed a little bit, this style that you're playing. So you know, I do I have a lot of Kyler and Caleb Williams and Justin Fields and that, and I'm also I'm also trying to take a stance on some of those QB threes. So like, for instance, cam Ward Yeah, shock, I'm a Titans fan. It's it kills two birds with one stone, right, because I'm a Titans fan, and I think that he is undervalued compared to what he could do, and and so like I'm trying to take a stance on him as QB three. The same with Tua because I think that if you're playing with the best possible outcomes telling a story, if you're drafting Reek or Waddle, then you probably need to be telling a story. That two is also going to have a good season and be injury free, and that's really what's keeping him back from from not being Like you know, if if you draft Reek or or Wattle and he gets hurt, then those Reak and Wattle teams are probably dust.

00:54:39
Speaker 2: Yeah. The one thing I do want to say about that tier of like cam Moore, because I would put I would put it as Bryce Young, Gino Smith, cam Ward, Aaron Rodgers, Right, like maybe that that grouping. I think all four of them are kind of decent values because oftentimes they fall back in the draft like multiple rounds versus the c J. Stroud even to to a degree, you know, like that that kind of punic pastor group and and yeah, and whenever I think about range of outcomes, like would you be that shocked? And maybe you would and maybe someone listening to this as saying, JJ, you're an idiot, But would you be that shocked if Aaron Rodgers outscored CJ. Stroud this year? No happened last year?

00:55:24
Speaker 4: Right, especially when you've got you know, DK Metcalf out there and you get the if he's throwing a few moonballs, Russell Wilson moonballs, then you know you're he could he could. That's kind of the you know, people we laugh about it. But I had the the mantra of live alittle on one of the swolcasts and then it became a thing or you just don't know. That was another year's mantra. This year the game is beatable is one. But it all goes back to the fact that sometimes analysts think they have it all figured out. This is gonna happen, this is what my projection and say, this is what my model says, and this is what should happen, right, and when in reality we know that nothing ever goes by ADP right, right, And so your lineup tells a story and you have to be prepared of like you just don't know. And so that's why it's okay to take a guy warning two rounds before ADP.

00:56:19
Speaker 2: Yeah, and look, I'm not for the record, I'm not like saying that I have CJ. Stroud rank behind Aaron Rodgers. I just think it's more of the range of outcomes thinking that people need to do. And if you're getting a two or three round discount, which at times some of those like back end quarterbacks do fall because the people who are going to take three quarterbacks are satisfied. Yeah, and then the people who aren't going to take three are also satisfied. And so all of a sudden, no one's forcing quarterback and you can get discounts on Geno and Cam or Aaron Rodgers, and all of a sudden you're like, oh, wow, okay, this is this ended up being a better value than if I would have reached for one of those pockets.

00:56:54
Speaker 4: Well, Stroud and Lawrence sometimes fall as well, back into the one thirties and forties, like they're falling. They're falling to range where you feel comfortable with and with both of those two guys, you can find players later to stack them with those with these back door stacks. You know we've talked. I think you and I both have a lot of exposure to Brenton strange Ton. Yes, and so it's because a lot of times it's because you you're having to draft Trevor Lawrence, the same thing with Stroud. Now you've got Christian Kirk we talked, who we've talked about in the Late Round Fantasy Football show on YouTube. Here's a plug. But you know, those are some guys that every lineup tells a story, doesn't mean you have to be right about everything. You just have to be right about that lineuph.

00:57:35
Speaker 2: You mentioned Sam Laporte, that sounds like you want more exposure with him. Are there any players right now that you've drafted that you wish you had more exposure of?

00:57:42
Speaker 4: Yeah, A little bit behind the scenes, like are when you and I have meetings, it's like half of like, Okay, here's what's coming up, here's the content schedule, here's the emails, and the other half is, okay, here's my exposure to these guys. And so this past week, whenever you told me your exposure to Trevon Henderson, it sent me into panic mode because I don't have a lot of Travion.

00:58:07
Speaker 2: And he's one of my highest rostered running back.

00:58:09
Speaker 4: I know that's scary because I told you, like I'm in that, you know that one running back in the first kind of eight or nine rounds, And so Trayvion falls in this. We've talked about how this draft this year feels like it's the deepest that we we've had, and so I feel like I love Chris Olave, I love Calvin Ridley, Like those are guys that are going around Trayvion that I'm going with the upside for the receiving right there. And so whenever you kind of told me, hey, you're an idiot for not having more Travion.

00:58:45
Speaker 2: I didn't say that part.

00:58:46
Speaker 4: Well you were thinking it, so craveon.

00:58:50
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean to me, in that range where he goes. Some of it is just based on the fact that I went really wide receiver heavy to start and he's my RB one and I'm starting like a zero r BE type build with him in round six because he'll fall sometimes, you know, he'll he'll go usually if it's Ridley versus him, I am going Ridley still.

00:59:07
Speaker 4: Well, it's it's Ridley as Juwan Jennings, who we have a lot of. Yeah, it's you know, I don't have a ton of Travis Hunter, but thereas in that group.

00:59:16
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's good, there's good wide receivers. I just have seemed to gravitate towards Travion because I loved him as a prospect and I think that the situation is great. I also have zero percent Remondra Stevenson. So that's h that's a pretty lopsided, uh.

00:59:31
Speaker 4: Drafting for Upside and Stevenson. Yeah, I have.

00:59:35
Speaker 2: Zero I have zero Stevenson and zero Brian Robinson right.

00:59:38
Speaker 4: Now, I don't have very much Brian Robinson either.

00:59:41
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's tough for me to to to click that name in a full PPR platform. The last question, then, who's the player that we're gonna need this year?

00:59:51
Speaker 4: I think I just mentioned too, and I'll just go with those guys. I think you need Ridley and or a lot of guys that if you're telling the story everything is going right for them. Everything is going right for a Lave as far as like he has some sort of decent quarterback that can get him the ball and he stays like he stays healthy. That's a story you're telling with Chris Alave that he stays healthy. If you look at his numbers when he's healthy, right, they are top fifteen numbers, right, and so on a PPR site. When he's a wide receiver one in that offense, they're probably not gonna be winning a ton of games. So playing from behind, getting lots of garbage points, you know your garbage point, you're gonna have a chance with him. And then Calvin Ridley we just talked about. Cam Ward has an unbelievable deeple Guess who had the most air yards last year, Yeah, Calvin Ridley. And so I think that you're telling the story there that the Titans have like boots on the ground here, they've got to much better offensive line, and they've got a much better quarterback. Nothing against Will Levis, they got much better quarterback year two of a guy who supposedly knows a thing or two about offenses. So I think really takes that next step.

01:01:13
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean Ridley splits last year with him without DeAndre Hopkins were actually pretty crazy. And I talked about that on a remember on fifteen Transactions. Plenty of times I had a by low moment with Ridley and he really like he had some really big weeks last year.

01:01:27
Speaker 4: He had bad luck with touchdowns too, Like you just have a ton of touchdowns.

01:01:30
Speaker 2: Yeah.

01:01:31
Speaker 4: I like that.

01:01:32
Speaker 2: I like those callouts quite a bit. And I've always said I think Chris Olave can be just as good as Garrett Wilson as a player, if he's not already been just as good as Garrett Wilson. But he's just not been healthy and that's been, you know, really difficult for him. But if you look at his per route run numbers, et cetera, et cetera. You know, he's been unbelievably good, so uh, definitely, definitely I would not be fading a lave at this moment, especially the moment people see him on a field again and he's not you know, in protocol that might boot up as ADP a little bit as well. Kitchen, this was great as always. I talked to you a lot, but talking to you in a more professional capacity. You know, it was a good I love it.

01:02:09
Speaker 4: And how lucky are you to have the one thousand number of one thousand B this week DraftKings best ball B this week. Yeah, and get one of your best buddies and workmates.

01:02:19
Speaker 2: That's right.

01:02:19
Speaker 4: I showed the same week.

01:02:20
Speaker 2: That's right. Let everyone know where they can find you and and what you're doing at that great company of Late Round Fantasy.

01:02:26
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I'm glad you asked JJ. You can find me on X at David Kitchen x. I had to add the X in there, and then you can also find me in the discord of the Late Round Patreon community. I'm in there as Soccer Day. You know, it's my old Draft DFS name, and you can also find me sending out some emails on our free email newsletter that we send on Fridays that you subscribe to by going to lateround dot com. I helped put together all of JJ's analysis into a beautiful document, call it the Late Round Draft Guide. So those are a few plugs right there.

01:03:03
Speaker 2: Yeah, check it all out lateround dot com. I don't even need to say where to find me and stuff because Kitchen basically already said that on my behalf, but I'm on Twitter at leet round QB. Make sure you are subscribe to that newsletter. Make sure you are checking out that draft guide over on lateround dot com. Otherwise, everyone, thanks for tuning in.