The Terrifying Vaccine Study Big Pharma Doesn’t Want You to See with Del Bigtree
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WEBVTT 00:00:00.160 --> 00:00:05.440 <v SPEAKER_02>All around the world, people tuned into our social media all day, every day, just watching us interview. 00:00:05.759 --> 00:00:08.400 <v SPEAKER_02>Let's talk about your you mentioned the childhood vaccines disease. 00:00:08.480 --> 00:00:13.279 <v SPEAKER_02>And last week um you spoke at a press conference that HHF Parent after parent. 00:00:13.439 --> 00:00:15.599 <v SPEAKER_02>My baby died after blue shot. 00:00:15.759 --> 00:00:22.239 <v SPEAKER_02>My teenage star athlete daughter or son has been paralyzed ever since they got the Gardasil HPV. 00:00:23.039 --> 00:00:30.079 <v SPEAKER_02>One of my really good friends is the head of infectious disease at Henry Ford Health, which is one of the greatest research institutes in the world. 00:00:30.239 --> 00:00:36.000 <v SPEAKER_02>I said, Would you ever do a study that compared the health outcomes of vaccinated children with completely unvaccinated children? 00:00:36.240 --> 00:00:41.759 <v SPEAKER_02>All the other scientists have had their careers taken away because they asked or dared to do a study like this. 00:00:41.920 --> 00:00:43.920 <v SPEAKER_02>And he said, Yeah, I'll I would do that study. 00:00:44.079 --> 00:00:47.200 <v SPEAKER_02>So four years later, I get handed the study, right? 00:00:47.280 --> 00:00:49.439 <v SPEAKER_02>So look at these insane numbers. 00:00:49.759 --> 00:00:51.840 <v SPEAKER_02>It's about 19,000 kids in the study. 00:00:51.920 --> 00:00:55.039 <v SPEAKER_02>I think it's the most damning study we've ever seen. 00:00:55.280 --> 00:00:57.439 <v SPEAKER_02>Because most of these kids are like four or five years old. 00:00:57.520 --> 00:01:00.960 <v SPEAKER_02>And I'm like, these are the sickest generations we've ever seen in this country. 00:01:01.200 --> 00:01:08.560 <v SPEAKER_02>For some reason, the immune system of our children has gone haywire and is attacking cells in their own bodies. 00:01:09.040 --> 00:01:16.400 <v SPEAKER_02>Six times the rate of neurodevelopmental disorders and six times autoimmune disease compared to the other action. 00:01:16.640 --> 00:01:18.079 <v SPEAKER_02>It's six times. 00:01:18.239 --> 00:01:19.840 <v SPEAKER_02>They are now trying to censor us. 00:01:19.920 --> 00:01:21.280 <v SPEAKER_02>They're censoring all of Europe, England. 00:01:21.439 --> 00:01:23.599 <v SPEAKER_02>I have a season letter from Henry Ford Health. 00:01:23.680 --> 00:01:28.319 <v SPEAKER_02>They're threatening defamations, they're arresting people for ex posts, just stating their opinion. 00:01:28.480 --> 00:01:35.280 <v SPEAKER_02>If I do not control what is injected into my body and the bodies of my children, I am definitely not a free citizen. 00:01:35.359 --> 00:01:36.879 <v SPEAKER_02>I have no rights as a human being. 00:01:37.040 --> 00:01:40.159 <v SPEAKER_02>I now share the same rights as farm animals. 00:01:40.400 --> 00:01:42.400 <v SPEAKER_02>And that cannot be. 00:01:42.560 --> 00:01:43.760 <v SPEAKER_02>We cannot allow that to be. 00:01:44.000 --> 00:01:44.719 <v SPEAKER_01>This is important. 00:01:44.879 --> 00:01:46.000 <v SPEAKER_01>This is about freedom. 00:01:46.079 --> 00:01:47.359 <v SPEAKER_01>This is about medical freedom. 00:01:47.439 --> 00:01:48.480 <v SPEAKER_01>This is about our children. 00:01:48.560 --> 00:01:50.000 <v SPEAKER_01>This is about the next generation. 00:01:50.159 --> 00:01:53.519 <v SPEAKER_01>This is about everything that matters right here. 00:01:55.120 --> 00:01:56.400 <v SPEAKER_01>Are you pro-vax? 00:01:56.799 --> 00:01:58.079 <v SPEAKER_01>Anti-vax? 00:01:58.319 --> 00:02:03.359 <v SPEAKER_01>Whatever you are, man, you're gonna want to hear this show before you make an opinion. 00:02:03.599 --> 00:02:08.560 <v SPEAKER_01>And why haven't they ever compared unvaccinated kids to vaccinated kids? 00:02:08.719 --> 00:02:11.759 <v SPEAKER_01>Well, my next guest asked that question. 00:02:12.000 --> 00:02:16.080 <v SPEAKER_01>And right now has one of the hottest documentaries out there. 00:02:16.319 --> 00:02:17.840 <v SPEAKER_01>It is going viral. 00:02:18.080 --> 00:02:20.960 <v SPEAKER_01>You have to hear this information before you make an opinion. 00:02:21.120 --> 00:02:26.159 <v SPEAKER_01>But let me back up because he is an Emmy, award-winning producer of The Doctors. 00:02:26.240 --> 00:02:27.280 <v SPEAKER_01>Remember The Doctors? 00:02:27.439 --> 00:02:29.840 <v SPEAKER_01>Okay, people don't realize he got his start there. 00:02:29.919 --> 00:02:38.159 <v SPEAKER_01>And he also was the producer of an incredible vaccine documentary called Vaxed, which, man, I put that out there. 00:02:38.319 --> 00:02:40.240 <v SPEAKER_01>I was a big proponent of that. 00:02:40.319 --> 00:02:42.960 <v SPEAKER_01>Um, and like I am of this new one. 00:02:43.120 --> 00:02:48.240 <v SPEAKER_01>But all that said, and you have so much more to say about this guest of mine, Del Bigtree. 00:02:48.319 --> 00:02:48.879 <v SPEAKER_01>Thank you for being here. 00:02:49.599 --> 00:02:50.159 <v SPEAKER_01>Thanks for having me. 00:02:50.479 --> 00:02:51.919 <v SPEAKER_01>Man, I there's so much more to say. 00:02:52.080 --> 00:02:54.159 <v SPEAKER_01>I mean, you you you've done so many things. 00:02:54.240 --> 00:02:56.879 <v SPEAKER_01>Your new show, I mean, high wire, it's not new, really. 00:02:56.960 --> 00:03:01.439 <v SPEAKER_01>I mean, you've been doing this a lot, but 75 million downloads on this show, I think, right? 00:03:02.000 --> 00:03:10.879 <v SPEAKER_02>Yeah, it's it's uh I mean, it's been an incredible ride since the moment I left CBS and the doctors and made vaxxed. 00:03:10.960 --> 00:03:17.680 <v SPEAKER_02>It's like every I always I like to say I went out for a surf lesson and I accidentally caught a 60-foot wave. 00:03:17.840 --> 00:03:18.000 <v SPEAKER_02>Yeah. 00:03:18.240 --> 00:03:20.560 <v SPEAKER_02>And I've just been figuring out how to hold on ever since. 00:03:21.039 --> 00:03:23.599 <v SPEAKER_01>Look, this new document that's a good way to put it. 00:03:23.759 --> 00:03:26.319 <v SPEAKER_01>I've watched your I've watched your career do that, actually. 00:03:26.800 --> 00:03:32.400 <v SPEAKER_01>But um, you know, this this new documentary uh we're gonna talk about because I've said that. 00:03:32.560 --> 00:03:43.919 <v SPEAKER_01>Why don't we do instead of having anti-vaxxers and vaxxers, come on, let's just do a study looking comparing vaccinated children and unvaccinated children, and there's the truth that lies in there somewhere. 00:03:44.080 --> 00:03:57.439 <v SPEAKER_01>Well, uh, what you're gonna hear in a minute is you challenge somebody to do that, one of the top scientists, you know, top research uh hospitals, uh, Henry Ford, and they did that study. 00:03:57.680 --> 00:03:59.680 <v SPEAKER_01>Wait till you hear more about that. 00:03:59.919 --> 00:04:04.800 <v SPEAKER_01>But I want to back up a little bit because I I I think it deserves some of this. 00:04:05.039 --> 00:04:12.719 <v SPEAKER_01>There was a time where you produced the Doctors, yeah, Emmy Award-winning producer of the doctors, and you were pro-vaxx. 00:04:13.120 --> 00:04:15.199 <v SPEAKER_02>Uh no, I wouldn't say I was pro-vax. 00:04:15.520 --> 00:04:15.680 <v SPEAKER_02>Okay. 00:04:15.840 --> 00:04:18.079 <v SPEAKER_02>Um, I I the show was pro-vaxxing. 00:04:18.319 --> 00:04:18.480 <v SPEAKER_02>Okay. 00:04:18.560 --> 00:04:18.720 <v SPEAKER_02>All right. 00:04:18.959 --> 00:04:21.519 <v SPEAKER_02>The truth is, is I grew up with chiropractors. 00:04:21.759 --> 00:04:27.600 <v SPEAKER_02>My parents were like very, yeah, sort of sort of health conscious hippies. 00:04:28.000 --> 00:04:34.079 <v SPEAKER_02>Um so when I ended up on the doctor's television show, my mom would call and say, you know, what are you doing working on a medical talk show? 00:04:34.319 --> 00:04:36.959 <v SPEAKER_02>You know, you didn't go to doctors, you went to chiropractors. 00:04:37.199 --> 00:04:41.199 <v SPEAKER_02>And so, but you know, I'll say this was interesting about working on it. 00:04:41.360 --> 00:04:55.040 <v SPEAKER_02>Is I really being around it for years and years, like doing science and medicine, I was challenging the system, talking about, you know, stories like Cleveland Clinics just brought in chiropractic, or here's a surgeon that's using, you know, acupuncture instead of anesthesia. 00:04:55.279 --> 00:05:06.079 <v SPEAKER_02>And especially when there'd be stories about like a drug that was being recalled, I would jump all over that saying, look at how many lives this destroyed before someone realized, you know, that there was a problem. 00:05:06.319 --> 00:05:15.120 <v SPEAKER_02>Or Monsanto's glyphosate was ruled probably carcinogenic to human beings back in 2015, which is like the second highest cancer rating there is. 00:05:15.360 --> 00:05:18.959 <v SPEAKER_02>I reached out to Monsanto and said, Do you want to defend your product? 00:05:19.040 --> 00:05:20.560 <v SPEAKER_02>And had a huge show about that. 00:05:20.639 --> 00:05:24.879 <v SPEAKER_02>And I brought in a GMO activist to debate their head of toxicology. 00:05:24.959 --> 00:05:29.839 <v SPEAKER_02>All that to say I've always just challenged, you know, the system. 00:05:30.000 --> 00:05:35.759 <v SPEAKER_02>Wherever there's billions of dollars to be made, I tend to think they're not really looking out for our best interests. 00:05:35.920 --> 00:05:40.240 <v SPEAKER_02>And so um, but I did get into the vaccine conversation, which I hadn't touched. 00:05:40.319 --> 00:05:46.480 <v SPEAKER_02>I wasn't I wasn't vaccinated as a kid, but imagine like your kids or chiropractors' kids, you don't really think about it. 00:05:46.639 --> 00:05:48.319 <v SPEAKER_02>It's just sort of how you were you're raised. 00:05:48.959 --> 00:05:49.920 <v SPEAKER_02>You're just doing your own thing. 00:05:50.079 --> 00:05:53.839 <v SPEAKER_02>We knew we were kind of just like a, you know, we were doing it differently. 00:05:54.000 --> 00:05:58.240 <v SPEAKER_02>Um, but then when I stumbled onto the whistleblower at the CDC, Dr. 00:05:58.319 --> 00:06:03.759 <v SPEAKER_02>William Thompson, um, and ended up making a documentary Vax, which you um mentioned. 00:06:03.839 --> 00:06:10.720 <v SPEAKER_02>Yeah, the tagline was cover up to you know, from cover up to catastrophe, uh, which was really about the autism conversation. 00:06:10.959 --> 00:06:16.720 <v SPEAKER_02>It was a study in the CDC that looked at the MMR vaccine, the measles, mumps, rubella vaccine, and autism. 00:06:16.959 --> 00:06:18.000 <v SPEAKER_02>And um Dr. 00:06:18.079 --> 00:06:20.399 <v SPEAKER_02>William Thompson, a scientist right in the CDC. 00:06:20.480 --> 00:06:32.319 <v SPEAKER_02>In fact, their top epidemiologist was the one that just started singing like a bird in these interviews, saying we destroyed uh significant um statistically significant information, we cut the study. 00:06:32.399 --> 00:06:33.439 <v SPEAKER_02>They they committed fraud. 00:06:33.600 --> 00:06:40.959 <v SPEAKER_02>Like they saw a correlation between that vaccine and autism and tried and ultimately hide it, you know, hid it from the public. 00:06:41.279 --> 00:06:56.720 <v SPEAKER_02>So that film catapulted me into this vaccine conversation, mostly because once you do a story like that that really calls out the pharmaceutical industry, calls out the CDC, you're not really gonna work in television again. 00:06:56.800 --> 00:06:57.199 <v SPEAKER_02>Yeah, right? 00:06:57.439 --> 00:07:00.800 <v SPEAKER_01>Yeah, you pretty much hung yourself, if you will, yeah. 00:07:00.959 --> 00:07:06.879 <v SPEAKER_01>Um, chasing this, you know, this thing that, like, okay, man, I'm in now, you're all in. 00:07:07.279 --> 00:07:08.240 <v SPEAKER_01>What did Vax do? 00:07:08.399 --> 00:07:11.839 <v SPEAKER_01>Okay, so after Vax, um, it was a big stir. 00:07:12.000 --> 00:07:16.079 <v SPEAKER_01>But again, it probably was put aside, and then people kind of went back to their lives. 00:07:16.160 --> 00:07:17.439 <v SPEAKER_01>What kind of happened after Vax? 00:07:17.600 --> 00:07:18.720 <v SPEAKER_01>What doors did it open, close? 00:07:18.879 --> 00:07:20.240 <v SPEAKER_01>Well, I mean, I think what impact did it have? 00:07:20.800 --> 00:07:30.319 <v SPEAKER_02>I think a lot of people will credit Vax with igniting the medical freedom movement, uh, which now I think has got a new evolution with Robert Kennedy Jr. 00:07:30.639 --> 00:07:31.040 <v SPEAKER_02>Maha. 00:07:31.279 --> 00:07:31.439 <v SPEAKER_02>Yeah. 00:07:31.759 --> 00:07:34.959 <v SPEAKER_02>Um, but um, it was an international sensation. 00:07:35.120 --> 00:07:46.240 <v SPEAKER_02>We traveled the country for a year, getting we got kicked out of Tribeca Film Festival just right out of the gate, which gave us the most amazing amount of negative press you've ever seen. 00:07:46.639 --> 00:07:47.519 <v SPEAKER_02>Yeah, that was a benefit. 00:07:48.079 --> 00:07:52.480 <v SPEAKER_02>Baby killers and you know, you name it, most dangerous film ever made. 00:07:52.720 --> 00:07:58.160 <v SPEAKER_02>Probably at that moment, one of the most, you know, controversial documentaries in history. 00:07:58.480 --> 00:08:00.240 <v SPEAKER_02>But it was it was like Passion of the Christ. 00:08:00.319 --> 00:08:06.879 <v SPEAKER_02>You'd show up to a theater and there'd just be a line down the block, all the controversy everywhere we went for an entire year. 00:08:07.040 --> 00:08:18.399 <v SPEAKER_02>Every time we were pulling into town, the local, you know, um, you know, media or the medical university nearby would start taking out headlines and calling us, you know, all sorts of names. 00:08:18.480 --> 00:08:20.959 <v SPEAKER_02>And on occasion, there'd be bomb threats in theaters. 00:08:21.040 --> 00:08:22.480 <v SPEAKER_02>It was just crazy. 00:08:22.639 --> 00:08:29.279 <v SPEAKER_02>But because of it, we, you know, ended up really being able to impact the conversation for over a year. 00:08:29.360 --> 00:08:31.279 <v SPEAKER_02>And then internationally, the same thing was happening. 00:08:31.439 --> 00:08:34.399 <v SPEAKER_02>So at the end of that year, I wanted to get deeper into it. 00:08:34.559 --> 00:08:43.919 <v SPEAKER_02>We were, you know, um one of the things I did, like the second screening when there's a line down the block, was like an art house theater in New York after we've been kicked out of Tribeca Film Festival. 00:08:44.000 --> 00:08:46.000 <v SPEAKER_02>And I was like, I wonder who these people are. 00:08:46.080 --> 00:08:48.559 <v SPEAKER_02>Like, who comes out of the way to watch a movie like this? 00:08:48.720 --> 00:08:57.519 <v SPEAKER_02>And so I we were doing Q ⁇ A's after every screening, and so I just stood up at the beginning of the QA and said, Would everyone with a vaccine injured child please stand up? 00:08:57.679 --> 00:09:00.159 <v SPEAKER_02>And you know, three-quarters of the audience stood up. 00:09:00.320 --> 00:09:02.399 <v SPEAKER_02>I mean, I honestly I was shocked. 00:09:02.480 --> 00:09:07.360 <v SPEAKER_02>I knew we were making a movie about an issue, but I thought it was a very small issue, you know. 00:09:07.519 --> 00:09:14.480 <v SPEAKER_02>Some of these kids are having this autism side effect, but then, you know, this, you know, most of the room stands up. 00:09:14.559 --> 00:09:24.559 <v SPEAKER_02>And so I ended up asking that question three or four screenings a day, five days a week for an entire year, and everywhere we went, the same numbers. 00:09:24.639 --> 00:09:31.679 <v SPEAKER_02>It was just mind-blowing that it was this big an issue, and no one was talking about it. 00:09:31.840 --> 00:09:40.559 <v SPEAKER_02>No one, and if you did talk about it, you were ridiculed, you're attacked, news reporters loved would just love to just call you crazy and a heretic. 00:09:40.720 --> 00:09:49.120 <v SPEAKER_02>And and so um, that led me to decide I wanted to get deeper into because after the screenings, we would go out and people say, I want to tell my story too. 00:09:49.360 --> 00:09:54.080 <v SPEAKER_02>So we were rolling live on Periscope and Facebook, which are two miracles, by the way. 00:09:54.159 --> 00:10:00.399 <v SPEAKER_02>These this ability to broadcast live over your cell phone appeared like right at the moment we were on tour. 00:10:00.639 --> 00:10:04.000 <v SPEAKER_02>So we turned it into a traveling reality show. 00:10:04.240 --> 00:10:11.200 <v SPEAKER_02>So all around the world, people were tuned into our social media all day, every day, just watching us interview parent after parent. 00:10:11.360 --> 00:10:14.720 <v SPEAKER_02>But it wasn't just autism and it wasn't just the MMR vaccine. 00:10:14.879 --> 00:10:19.600 <v SPEAKER_02>We were having every single vaccine was implicated in some form of an injury. 00:10:19.759 --> 00:10:21.759 <v SPEAKER_02>My baby died after a flu shot. 00:10:22.000 --> 00:10:30.080 <v SPEAKER_02>My, you know, teenage star athlete daughter or son has been paralyzed ever since they got the Gardasil HPV vaccine. 00:10:30.240 --> 00:10:34.000 <v SPEAKER_02>And so when people would walk up to me after the film, they kept asking me the same question. 00:10:34.159 --> 00:10:43.759 <v SPEAKER_02>Look, your film's just about the MMR vaccine and autism, but what about all the other 16 vaccines we're giving our children in 72 doses? 00:10:43.919 --> 00:10:47.600 <v SPEAKER_02>And I would say, look, I only have anecdotal stories. 00:10:47.679 --> 00:10:52.320 <v SPEAKER_02>I can tell you there's not a single vaccine that does not appear to have injured somebody. 00:10:52.399 --> 00:10:52.559 <v SPEAKER_02>Yeah. 00:10:52.799 --> 00:10:54.080 <v SPEAKER_02>Uh, but I don't know what the numbers are. 00:10:54.240 --> 00:10:54.960 <v SPEAKER_02>I don't know what the data is. 00:10:55.600 --> 00:10:56.320 <v SPEAKER_01>That's acknowledged. 00:10:56.399 --> 00:11:00.240 <v SPEAKER_01>I mean, so people, you know, we have a lot of people who are pro-vaccine watching this. 00:11:00.320 --> 00:11:03.919 <v SPEAKER_01>So it's acknowledged that vaccines cause these injuries. 00:11:04.320 --> 00:11:09.360 <v SPEAKER_01>To what degree, you know, we don't know necessarily, but it does. 00:11:09.679 --> 00:11:14.960 <v SPEAKER_01>Now, the argument then is always yes, but look with the lives that they save. 00:11:15.120 --> 00:11:21.679 <v SPEAKER_01>So the risk is better than, you know, or the outweighs the benefit outweigh the risk. 00:11:21.759 --> 00:11:21.840 <v SPEAKER_02>Yeah. 00:11:22.080 --> 00:11:23.120 <v SPEAKER_02>So what do you say about that? 00:11:23.519 --> 00:11:25.600 <v SPEAKER_02>I would say you would need science to prove that. 00:11:26.240 --> 00:11:34.559 <v SPEAKER_02>And there's only one type of study that can actually get to the bottom of that, you know, mathematical equation. 00:11:34.639 --> 00:11:39.360 <v SPEAKER_02>And that is you have to do a double-blind placebo-based trial. 00:11:39.600 --> 00:11:41.759 <v SPEAKER_02>It's what we do with every single pharmaceutical product. 00:11:43.120 --> 00:11:43.679 <v SPEAKER_02>Trevor Burrus, Jr.: Cause. 00:11:44.080 --> 00:11:51.919 <v SPEAKER_02>If you want to get to causation, this thing does cause this, or this thing does cure this, or you know, I mean all these things. 00:11:53.279 --> 00:11:58.159 <v SPEAKER_02>You know, this that has limited injury or no injury or you know, no side effects. 00:11:58.240 --> 00:11:58.399 <v SPEAKER_02>Trevor Burrus, Jr. 00:11:58.639 --> 00:11:58.799 <v SPEAKER_02>Right. 00:11:59.039 --> 00:12:10.080 <v SPEAKER_01>So the question then is, is why hasn't there ever been a stu uh a double-blind placebo trial study done on any vaccination? 00:12:10.240 --> 00:12:12.159 <v SPEAKER_01>Because those watching would be, well, of course there is. 00:12:12.320 --> 00:12:12.799 <v SPEAKER_01>No, there isn't. 00:12:12.960 --> 00:12:13.039 <v SPEAKER_01>No. 00:12:13.279 --> 00:12:14.159 <v SPEAKER_01>There's not one. 00:12:14.399 --> 00:12:14.559 <v SPEAKER_01>Okay. 00:12:14.960 --> 00:12:16.960 <v SPEAKER_01>So it's absolutely not been done. 00:12:17.120 --> 00:12:17.519 <v SPEAKER_01>Why? 00:12:18.080 --> 00:12:22.480 <v SPEAKER_02>Well, I think that there's I mean, that's a really good question. 00:12:22.879 --> 00:12:29.600 <v SPEAKER_02>And it's, you know, if you think about it, a safety trial, which is what this is, meaning one group gets a product, the other group is a proceeding. 00:12:30.720 --> 00:12:30.960 <v SPEAKER_02>Every drug. 00:12:31.200 --> 00:12:33.440 <v SPEAKER_01>So this is the only drug that doesn't have to have. 00:12:34.799 --> 00:12:42.320 <v SPEAKER_02>If you're dying of, you've got stage four cancer and you're like, I want to try that cancer drug that's in that trial right now. 00:12:42.399 --> 00:12:44.720 <v SPEAKER_02>It's in a multi-year safety trial. 00:12:44.879 --> 00:12:46.240 <v SPEAKER_02>I'm going to die anyway. 00:12:46.399 --> 00:12:47.440 <v SPEAKER_02>Nothing else has worked. 00:12:47.519 --> 00:12:48.480 <v SPEAKER_02>I'd like to try that drug. 00:12:48.639 --> 00:12:50.879 <v SPEAKER_02>We go, no, safety is so important. 00:12:51.120 --> 00:13:00.080 <v SPEAKER_02>You're going to have to wait till this five to ten year trial is over where they're going to finally see, did more people die in the placebo group or in the trial group? 00:13:00.240 --> 00:13:07.919 <v SPEAKER_02>Um, but when it comes to perfectly healthy children not dying of cancer, we will rush a product right to you without any testing. 00:13:08.000 --> 00:13:09.360 <v SPEAKER_02>And everyone, everyone watched this during COVID. 00:13:10.080 --> 00:13:11.840 <v SPEAKER_02>Like we watched this happen during COVID. 00:13:12.159 --> 00:13:16.799 <v SPEAKER_02>So, you know, and one of the things that's shocking, and it woke up a lot of scientists and doctors, like Dr. 00:13:16.879 --> 00:13:21.120 <v SPEAKER_02>Peter McCullough's the, you know, leading heart authority in the world. 00:13:21.279 --> 00:13:31.360 <v SPEAKER_02>Um, but ultimately when they watched it rushed out, they started saying, Well, look, the childhood vaccine program is great, but the COVID vaccine was just rushed on the market. 00:13:31.440 --> 00:13:34.879 <v SPEAKER_02>And I went to Peter and everybody that like him, I don't mean to single him out. 00:13:35.039 --> 00:13:40.080 <v SPEAKER_02>He's done amazing work, but I would say that COVID vaccine is the best tested vaccine we've ever made. 00:13:40.639 --> 00:13:41.360 <v SPEAKER_02>Like, that's ridiculous. 00:13:41.600 --> 00:13:42.080 <v SPEAKER_02>That came out. 00:13:42.240 --> 00:13:45.919 <v SPEAKER_02>I was like, no, I'm telling you, that had a saline placebo in it. 00:13:46.000 --> 00:13:52.480 <v SPEAKER_02>Uh, mostly because my nonprofit sued the FDA and said, if you don't use a saline placebo, we're gonna tell the world you didn't do a safety study. 00:13:52.639 --> 00:14:01.039 <v SPEAKER_02>So they actually, right after we submitted that threat, three days later, they stopped the trials down and and then turned the placebo into a saline placebo. 00:14:01.120 --> 00:14:03.039 <v SPEAKER_02>It was gonna be a meninic cockle vaccine. 00:14:03.120 --> 00:14:05.360 <v SPEAKER_02>But anyway, never done a placebo trial. 00:14:05.440 --> 00:14:05.840 <v SPEAKER_02>Why? 00:14:06.159 --> 00:14:16.720 <v SPEAKER_02>I think because when vaccines first came along, you think about smallpox and polio, there was this idea that it was like, let's try this new thing. 00:14:17.039 --> 00:14:18.799 <v SPEAKER_02>People are dying of smallpox. 00:14:18.879 --> 00:14:20.320 <v SPEAKER_02>And so they just kind of rush it out. 00:14:20.399 --> 00:14:28.240 <v SPEAKER_02>You know, Edward Jenner discovers, you know, look, the cowpox pus is, you know, the milkmaids aren't getting smallpox. 00:14:28.320 --> 00:14:33.200 <v SPEAKER_02>Like maybe cowpox is like a lighter version of it in it, you know, and that's how it starts. 00:14:33.279 --> 00:14:36.960 <v SPEAKER_02>It starts cutting people's arms open and slapping cow pus in there. 00:14:37.120 --> 00:14:40.799 <v SPEAKER_02>People don't know vaccine comes from vaca, which means cow. 00:14:41.039 --> 00:14:44.639 <v SPEAKER_02>It all stems from this, you know, discovery, but they rush it out. 00:14:44.720 --> 00:14:46.080 <v SPEAKER_02>Like, why have a placebo trial? 00:14:46.159 --> 00:14:46.639 <v SPEAKER_02>People are dying. 00:14:46.799 --> 00:14:48.559 <v SPEAKER_02>Polio, you people are getting paralyzed. 00:14:48.639 --> 00:14:53.120 <v SPEAKER_02>Why why have a and I think we just got used to everything around the word vaccines? 00:14:53.279 --> 00:14:58.080 <v SPEAKER_02>Let's just treat as though everything's an emergency and we just don't have time to do placebo trials. 00:14:58.480 --> 00:14:58.799 <v SPEAKER_02>That's a guess. 00:15:00.480 --> 00:15:08.080 <v SPEAKER_01>And I I would argue on my side is like, well, why would they want to risk a bad result when right now they don't have to do the study? 00:15:08.159 --> 00:15:11.519 <v SPEAKER_01>It's the only drug, by the way, where you don't have to do a double-blind study to prove safety. 00:15:11.840 --> 00:15:14.159 <v SPEAKER_01>So the only drug, by the way, has no liability either. 00:15:14.639 --> 00:15:14.960 <v SPEAKER_01>Absolutely, right? 00:15:15.200 --> 00:15:19.759 <v SPEAKER_02>So even if they even if they rushed on the market, you can't sue them, so that doesn't matter. 00:15:20.000 --> 00:15:22.240 <v SPEAKER_02>Like it doesn't matter if it kills you or if it's your injury. 00:15:24.720 --> 00:15:25.440 <v SPEAKER_01>But not with this. 00:15:25.759 --> 00:15:25.840 <v SPEAKER_01>Right. 00:15:26.159 --> 00:15:27.519 <v SPEAKER_01>That makes it the cash cow. 00:15:27.759 --> 00:15:28.879 <v SPEAKER_01>Why would I do a study? 00:15:29.120 --> 00:15:32.159 <v SPEAKER_01>And also they say, well, this is what they say. 00:15:32.399 --> 00:15:36.879 <v SPEAKER_01>If you do a study, it there's a a pro there's an ethics problem. 00:15:37.039 --> 00:15:45.120 <v SPEAKER_01>Because now we have something that prevents something, and we have a uh a placebo group that's not ethical, so we can't do the study. 00:15:45.200 --> 00:15:45.360 <v SPEAKER_01>Trevor Burrus, Jr. 00:15:45.519 --> 00:15:45.679 <v SPEAKER_02>Right. 00:15:45.840 --> 00:15:57.039 <v SPEAKER_02>If you have a measles vaccine, you can't do a trial of a new measles vaccine with a salient placebo because that those kids are now being denied access to a product that would protect them from measles. 00:15:57.360 --> 00:15:58.240 <v SPEAKER_01>But we do it for cancer patients. 00:15:58.399 --> 00:15:59.039 <v SPEAKER_01>We do it for alien. 00:15:59.440 --> 00:16:00.799 <v SPEAKER_02>I mean, we do it for so many. 00:16:00.879 --> 00:16:02.879 <v SPEAKER_02>We let we literally let people die of cancer. 00:16:03.279 --> 00:16:04.159 <v SPEAKER_02>So I call BS on the thing. 00:16:05.120 --> 00:16:05.279 <v SPEAKER_02>I know. 00:16:05.679 --> 00:16:06.480 <v SPEAKER_02>That's a butt. 00:16:07.039 --> 00:16:08.080 <v SPEAKER_01>But anyway, all right. 00:16:08.240 --> 00:16:08.480 <v SPEAKER_01>Yeah. 00:16:08.639 --> 00:16:12.480 <v SPEAKER_01>So the the fact is we probably blew a lot of people's minds right there. 00:16:12.559 --> 00:16:16.480 <v SPEAKER_01>The fact that you know we think these are very studied, they're not. 00:16:16.799 --> 00:16:25.919 <v SPEAKER_01>Which when we look at the autism statistics, you bet, you know, kind of go over that for people, because you said every time, you know, three-quarters of the crowd is raising their hand. 00:16:26.159 --> 00:16:29.440 <v SPEAKER_01>Okay, so that means that these statistics have gotten worse. 00:16:29.600 --> 00:16:30.480 <v SPEAKER_01>We can't argue this. 00:16:30.960 --> 00:16:33.519 <v SPEAKER_02>Well, they do, but I mean let's point out that they do argue this. 00:16:33.600 --> 00:16:48.320 <v SPEAKER_02>And this is what I want to really like if you're going to start really making a transition in your life, you've got if you catch a person that lies to you, if you catch someone you work with is lying to you, or your boss lies to you, then you got to chalk that down to, okay, I just caught them in a lie. 00:16:48.399 --> 00:16:51.919 <v SPEAKER_02>So I want to catch because everyone has heard this statement. 00:16:52.159 --> 00:17:03.440 <v SPEAKER_02>Now, the statement made by most people's doctors with autism, and certainly the scientific professionals, even journalists on the news, they'll say, actually, it's not in autism isn't increasing. 00:17:03.519 --> 00:17:04.960 <v SPEAKER_02>We're just diagnosing it better. 00:17:05.200 --> 00:17:05.440 <v SPEAKER_02>That's right. 00:17:05.680 --> 00:17:07.359 <v SPEAKER_02>Autism's always been here. 00:17:07.519 --> 00:17:09.839 <v SPEAKER_02>We're just getting better at diagnosing it. 00:17:09.920 --> 00:17:13.519 <v SPEAKER_02>As though, so so let's just take that thought for a minute, okay? 00:17:13.759 --> 00:17:20.400 <v SPEAKER_02>We are currently at one in 34 children is being diagnosed with autism on a national level. 00:17:20.559 --> 00:17:25.359 <v SPEAKER_02>Um, boys, it's more prevalent, so it could be one in 18 to 1 in 20 boys. 00:17:25.599 --> 00:17:29.279 <v SPEAKER_02>In California right now, they have the worst rate we've ever seen. 00:17:29.440 --> 00:17:37.759 <v SPEAKER_02>They're currently at one in 12.5 four-year-olds, and you haven't diagnosed everyone until they're eight, so that's gonna drop probably below 10. 00:17:37.920 --> 00:17:47.680 <v SPEAKER_02>So we're talking, let's let's just take that, let's just say, let's say one in 12.5, because it shouldn't be, if it's always been here and we're just diagnosing it better than the California stat, it shouldn't be different. 00:17:47.759 --> 00:17:52.000 <v SPEAKER_02>Like somehow, eventually around the country, we're gonna realize it's one in 12.5 boys if this is true. 00:17:52.160 --> 00:17:52.240 <v SPEAKER_02>Right. 00:17:52.400 --> 00:17:53.599 <v SPEAKER_02>But now let's just think about this. 00:17:53.759 --> 00:17:57.519 <v SPEAKER_02>One in 12.5 boys, so that means one in 12.5 men. 00:17:57.759 --> 00:18:02.960 <v SPEAKER_02>And there's, I mean, we should be seeing hieroglyphics with drawings with that prevalence level. 00:18:03.200 --> 00:18:04.880 <v SPEAKER_02>One in 12.5 boys. 00:18:05.039 --> 00:18:08.720 <v SPEAKER_02>Why when we all went to the movie theater to watch Rain Man, was that such a hit? 00:18:08.799 --> 00:18:11.519 <v SPEAKER_02>It was such a hit because none of us had ever seen this character before. 00:18:14.720 --> 00:18:16.000 <v SPEAKER_01>In my class, there was no autism. 00:18:16.319 --> 00:18:16.559 <v SPEAKER_01>Not one. 00:18:16.799 --> 00:18:16.960 <v SPEAKER_02>None. 00:18:17.200 --> 00:18:18.160 <v SPEAKER_02>In the whole school, there wasn't. 00:18:18.480 --> 00:18:18.720 <v SPEAKER_02>Right. 00:18:18.880 --> 00:18:22.000 <v SPEAKER_02>So so we were like, so the movie's a hit because it's something you'd never seen. 00:18:22.160 --> 00:18:24.400 <v SPEAKER_02>I guarantee you would have seen it if it was one in twelve point five. 00:18:24.720 --> 00:18:24.880 <v SPEAKER_02>Absolutely. 00:18:25.200 --> 00:18:25.680 <v SPEAKER_02>You know what I mean? 00:18:25.759 --> 00:18:48.480 <v SPEAKER_02>And then when you look at all of the diagnostic, you know, manuals that have been drawn up by the guys like Charcot and Tourette's and Freud, these guys went into insane asylums, and and our best descriptions of schizophrenia and all the psychological issues that are out there were done over the over the hundred years ago of these guys that would go into insane sounds and say, look, I'm draw up these perfect descriptions. 00:18:48.799 --> 00:19:01.519 <v SPEAKER_02>Not one description, not one from any of those guys of autism, repetitive motion disorders, super OCD with seizures and you know, can't speak, nonverbal doesn't exist. 00:19:01.680 --> 00:19:04.880 <v SPEAKER_02>And then lastly, I think Bobby Kennedy makes the best point. 00:19:05.119 --> 00:19:08.079 <v SPEAKER_02>Where are the guys my age with autism? 00:19:08.160 --> 00:19:08.960 <v SPEAKER_02>It should be filling. 00:19:09.039 --> 00:19:09.920 <v SPEAKER_02>One in 12.5. 00:19:10.079 --> 00:19:15.440 <v SPEAKER_02>So every 12 elderly men in an old folks' home right now should have autism. 00:19:15.599 --> 00:19:19.680 <v SPEAKER_02>I mean, they're standing in the corner, they can't speak, they're in a diaper, never been, you know, there's none. 00:19:20.240 --> 00:19:20.799 <v SPEAKER_02>There's none. 00:19:21.359 --> 00:19:22.079 <v SPEAKER_02>There's none. 00:19:22.319 --> 00:19:32.559 <v SPEAKER_02>So then when you hear that being said by the American Academy of Pediatrics or the AMA, you gotta say, why would they lie about something like that? 00:19:32.720 --> 00:19:43.759 <v SPEAKER_02>And if they're lying about that, then now you're probably also saying, and they were lying about the efficacy of the COVID vaccine, saying it's 95% effective, didn't stop any from getting transmission. 00:19:43.920 --> 00:19:49.200 <v SPEAKER_02>In fact, we now know people that got five, six, nine vaccines have been had COVID nine times. 00:19:49.759 --> 00:19:50.000 <v SPEAKER_02>Right? 00:19:50.160 --> 00:19:59.680 <v SPEAKER_02>So once you keep seeing an industry that was selling you on an idea that vaccines are safe and effective, like that was it. 00:20:00.000 --> 00:20:01.920 <v SPEAKER_02>We never did admit that there was injury. 00:20:02.160 --> 00:20:07.039 <v SPEAKER_02>In fact, if you ever said, I know a kid that think they got seizures, you know, from vaccination, no, that's ridiculous. 00:20:07.119 --> 00:20:07.839 <v SPEAKER_02>That doesn't happen. 00:20:08.000 --> 00:20:16.480 <v SPEAKER_02>Really, because it's written in the warning label, so is encephalitis, swelling of the brain, so is paralysis, Guillaume, Baret syndrome, transverse myelitis. 00:20:16.559 --> 00:20:28.400 <v SPEAKER_02>So when they say they cured paralytic diseases, no, actually, and I'm in the movie, you know, an inconvenience study, you see one of the kids I interviewed paralyzed from the neck down by a vaccine. 00:20:28.559 --> 00:20:37.680 <v SPEAKER_02>And so, you know, in the end, once you start looking into this, you realize there's a whole lot of lies that have taken place. 00:20:38.000 --> 00:20:40.079 <v SPEAKER_02>And then how do we know? 00:20:40.319 --> 00:20:46.960 <v SPEAKER_02>How do we know that this vaccine is actually, you know, um less dangerous than disease? 00:20:47.119 --> 00:20:58.079 <v SPEAKER_02>Measles, for instance, measles vaccine, measles vaccine, before we ever had a measles vaccine, the death rate from measles in America was one in 500,000 people. 00:20:58.319 --> 00:21:00.880 <v SPEAKER_02>I mean, that is a 0.000 something. 00:21:01.279 --> 00:21:02.079 <v SPEAKER_02>Before there was ever a vaccine. 00:21:02.319 --> 00:21:03.920 <v SPEAKER_02>Before there's ever a vaccine. 00:21:04.079 --> 00:21:06.160 <v SPEAKER_02>And so, again, another lie. 00:21:06.240 --> 00:21:12.240 <v SPEAKER_02>When the media says deadly measles, I mean, I get accused, I literally get accused of causing measles outbreaks. 00:21:12.559 --> 00:21:19.039 <v SPEAKER_02>They love to walk up to me, reporters will say, you're responsible for the measles outbreak in Texas, the measles outbreak in New York. 00:21:19.200 --> 00:21:24.640 <v SPEAKER_02>I was like, I'm I'm if you keep saying it, you're gonna give me illusions of grandeur like of some sort of god or something. 00:21:25.200 --> 00:21:26.799 <v SPEAKER_02>But they'll say deadly. 00:21:26.880 --> 00:21:28.240 <v SPEAKER_02>And I'll say, that's interesting. 00:21:28.480 --> 00:21:29.920 <v SPEAKER_02>How are you able to say that to me? 00:21:30.079 --> 00:21:31.359 <v SPEAKER_02>How are you asking me this question? 00:21:31.519 --> 00:21:32.160 <v SPEAKER_02>Like, what do you mean? 00:21:32.319 --> 00:21:34.000 <v SPEAKER_02>I was like, new measles is deadly, right? 00:21:34.079 --> 00:21:36.559 <v SPEAKER_02>It's like the most infectious disease we've ever seen. 00:21:36.720 --> 00:21:41.119 <v SPEAKER_02>If it's around and you haven't been vaccinated or you haven't caught it before, you're catching it, right? 00:21:41.279 --> 00:21:42.160 <v SPEAKER_02>Yeah, that's right. 00:21:42.400 --> 00:21:44.799 <v SPEAKER_02>Okay, how are you standing here asking me this question? 00:21:45.039 --> 00:21:45.839 <v SPEAKER_02>Like, what do you mean? 00:21:46.000 --> 00:21:52.559 <v SPEAKER_02>I was like, Well, we can assume that everybody's grandparents on the planet caught measles, right? 00:21:52.799 --> 00:21:53.200 <v SPEAKER_02>Yeah. 00:21:53.440 --> 00:21:54.319 <v SPEAKER_02>So how are you here? 00:21:54.799 --> 00:21:57.519 <v SPEAKER_02>How you if it's deadly, how did we all survive? 00:21:57.599 --> 00:21:58.640 <v SPEAKER_02>How is our species here? 00:21:58.960 --> 00:22:03.359 <v SPEAKER_02>How are eight big People alive on this planet if it was deadly. 00:22:03.519 --> 00:22:15.039 <v SPEAKER_02>And then lastly, why is it a Brady Bunch episode back in the early 1960s where everyone in the Brady Bunch family gets the measles and there's a laugh track. 00:22:15.119 --> 00:22:18.079 <v SPEAKER_02>Every time another kid comes home, Mom, I got the measles too. 00:22:18.559 --> 00:22:19.200 <v SPEAKER_02>Laugh track. 00:22:19.680 --> 00:22:23.039 <v SPEAKER_02>Last, last, I think the last laugh is all the kids are done. 00:22:23.200 --> 00:22:24.720 <v SPEAKER_02>They're like, you can't beat the measles. 00:22:24.799 --> 00:22:26.880 <v SPEAKER_02>We get to stay home and play board games. 00:22:26.960 --> 00:22:28.880 <v SPEAKER_02>And then I think dad gets the measles or something. 00:22:29.200 --> 00:22:30.720 <v SPEAKER_01>Yeah, listen, I was grew up in the 70s. 00:22:30.880 --> 00:22:36.319 <v SPEAKER_01>We went down, I remember the sausters had the measles, and we were all went down to play with them. 00:22:36.480 --> 00:22:38.960 <v SPEAKER_01>You know, of course, it was the same with chicken pox. 00:22:39.119 --> 00:22:41.119 <v SPEAKER_01>Do you hear just Al Theresa Mumps? 00:22:41.279 --> 00:22:45.440 <v SPEAKER_01>They're saying more people with mumps, you know, with the vaccine are vaccinated, right? 00:22:46.079 --> 00:22:46.960 <v SPEAKER_01>This has been going on. 00:22:47.119 --> 00:22:49.279 <v SPEAKER_02>I mean, so this product's a disaster. 00:22:49.440 --> 00:22:49.599 <v SPEAKER_02>Yeah. 00:22:49.759 --> 00:22:50.400 <v SPEAKER_02>It's a disaster. 00:22:50.559 --> 00:22:53.599 <v SPEAKER_02>You're f filled with all sorts of non-truths. 00:22:53.759 --> 00:22:54.799 <v SPEAKER_02>And what happened? 00:22:55.039 --> 00:22:58.079 <v SPEAKER_02>When did the television now make measles deadly? 00:22:58.240 --> 00:22:59.359 <v SPEAKER_02>Oh two questions. 00:22:59.519 --> 00:23:01.680 <v SPEAKER_02>Is measles more deadly than it ever was before? 00:23:01.839 --> 00:23:02.559 <v SPEAKER_02>That's a question. 00:23:02.799 --> 00:23:04.160 <v SPEAKER_02>Is the vaccine not working? 00:23:04.319 --> 00:23:06.640 <v SPEAKER_02>Is there a reason we're still getting measles outbreaks? 00:23:06.880 --> 00:23:11.279 <v SPEAKER_02>But lastly, when did we start calling it deadly when it used to be something we laughed about? 00:23:11.440 --> 00:23:11.920 <v SPEAKER_02>What changed? 00:23:12.079 --> 00:23:17.519 <v SPEAKER_02>I would say what changed is your television set is essentially owned by pharma. 00:23:17.759 --> 00:23:23.759 <v SPEAKER_02>It's 50 to 70 percent of the advertising, which means your news anchor works for the pharmaceutical industry. 00:23:36.000 --> 00:23:36.160 <v SPEAKER_01>Yes. 00:23:36.480 --> 00:23:40.559 <v SPEAKER_01>But the problem is if you get it later, now it does become more deadly. 00:23:40.720 --> 00:23:47.680 <v SPEAKER_01>And I could make that argument for many of these childhood diseases that literally, you know, there's a vulnerability point where a kid's meant to get these. 00:23:47.759 --> 00:23:49.119 <v SPEAKER_01>And by the way, I make the argument. 00:23:49.200 --> 00:23:50.799 <v SPEAKER_01>I've done a deep dive into this. 00:23:51.039 --> 00:23:58.720 <v SPEAKER_01>I believe that these childhood diseases make us stronger later in life, prevent cancer, prevent autoimmune. 00:23:58.880 --> 00:24:02.720 <v SPEAKER_01>I believe it's actually healthy to get them, and we're trying to prevent them. 00:24:02.880 --> 00:24:04.160 <v SPEAKER_01>Most people don't see it that way. 00:24:04.240 --> 00:24:10.240 <v SPEAKER_01>Most people think of the one in whatever million it is that dies because of some type of immune problem. 00:24:10.559 --> 00:24:14.480 <v SPEAKER_02>Well, let's take the numbers on measles for a second, with that one in 500,000. 00:24:15.200 --> 00:24:22.319 <v SPEAKER_02>These are the original CDC, before it was a CDC, the vital statistics of America, 1960, 1 in 500,000. 00:24:22.480 --> 00:24:31.680 <v SPEAKER_02>The overall, they believed about 430, I think it's like 430 people died from measles in uh in 1960 before there's a vaccine. 00:24:32.000 --> 00:24:32.559 <v SPEAKER_02>430. 00:24:32.799 --> 00:24:32.880 <v SPEAKER_02>Right. 00:24:33.119 --> 00:24:34.000 <v SPEAKER_02>430. 00:24:34.240 --> 00:24:49.599 <v SPEAKER_02>Now, to your point, there's been great studies that show that an a man, an adult man who had measles, not the vaccine, but had the infection as a child, reduces their rate of heart disease and heart attack by at least 10%. 00:24:50.400 --> 00:24:57.039 <v SPEAKER_02>I I don't forget what the rate is this year, but it might be nearly a million people are gonna die from heart disease, heart attacks. 00:24:57.200 --> 00:25:10.240 <v SPEAKER_02>If you could reduce that by 10%, that's a hundred thousand people's lives were saved from having the measles, but with the vaccine protected us from 400 people dying. 00:25:10.480 --> 00:25:16.240 <v SPEAKER_02>So right there, it doesn't actually the risk-benefit ratio is way out of whack. 00:25:16.720 --> 00:25:27.839 <v SPEAKER_02>Women who get measles and mumps, these are big, huge multimillion people studies that get both measles and mumps reduce their risk of ovarian cancer by 50%. 00:25:28.319 --> 00:25:31.680 <v SPEAKER_02>That's tens of thousands of people die from that every year. 00:25:31.920 --> 00:25:36.640 <v SPEAKER_02>Right there, you beat any issue you had with mumps and measles that was a risk. 00:25:37.119 --> 00:25:39.680 <v SPEAKER_01>So most people hearing this never heard that argument. 00:25:39.920 --> 00:25:40.799 <v SPEAKER_02>You've never heard that. 00:25:41.119 --> 00:25:41.279 <v SPEAKER_02>Right. 00:25:41.599 --> 00:25:42.640 <v SPEAKER_02>But think about it. 00:25:42.799 --> 00:25:52.960 <v SPEAKER_02>We whether or not you believe in divine design and God or evolution, we've been living with viruses and bacteria all around us. 00:25:53.200 --> 00:25:58.960 <v SPEAKER_02>In fact, you know, there's arguments that there's vir, you know, virus DNA in your own DNA. 00:25:59.119 --> 00:26:07.200 <v SPEAKER_02>It's part of this, you know, our adaptation of living on this planet, this living, breathing organism we're part of. 00:26:07.440 --> 00:26:14.559 <v SPEAKER_02>And somehow we've decided we're just gonna interject with our mad genius that to stop measles. 00:26:14.720 --> 00:26:15.039 <v SPEAKER_02>Why? 00:26:15.200 --> 00:26:16.160 <v SPEAKER_02>You know, what's the point? 00:26:16.400 --> 00:26:16.559 <v SPEAKER_02>Yeah. 00:26:16.960 --> 00:26:18.880 <v SPEAKER_02>So anyway, it's uh there's a lot. 00:26:19.200 --> 00:26:23.200 <v SPEAKER_02>I mean, we could go, you could do weeks and weeks of videos about that. 00:26:23.279 --> 00:26:23.599 <v SPEAKER_02>I know you have. 00:26:23.920 --> 00:26:24.480 <v SPEAKER_01>Yeah, no, exactly. 00:26:24.640 --> 00:26:26.160 <v SPEAKER_01>We can go down every vaccine. 00:26:26.400 --> 00:26:28.000 <v SPEAKER_01>Here's the big one everyone's gonna say. 00:26:28.559 --> 00:26:29.440 <v SPEAKER_01>We hear it all the time. 00:26:29.599 --> 00:26:31.039 <v SPEAKER_01>What about polio, Dell? 00:26:31.839 --> 00:26:41.359 <v SPEAKER_02>So polio vaccine um has has killed millions of people who got cancer from the simian retrovirus that was in it. 00:26:41.519 --> 00:26:42.559 <v SPEAKER_02>This is a known fact. 00:26:43.039 --> 00:26:45.839 <v SPEAKER_02>Whether it was like contaminating a lab, it was there. 00:26:46.000 --> 00:26:52.640 <v SPEAKER_02>The polio vaccine itself caused polio in people that got it back in the original uh version of it. 00:26:53.200 --> 00:26:53.920 <v SPEAKER_02>Spiked all the cases. 00:26:54.319 --> 00:26:56.720 <v SPEAKER_02>And it caused outbreaks of polio. 00:26:56.880 --> 00:26:59.839 <v SPEAKER_02>Um and so, and there's huge questions. 00:27:00.079 --> 00:27:04.960 <v SPEAKER_02>A great book, if anyone ever wants to get into it, by um Suzanne Humphreys called Dissolving Illusions. 00:27:05.200 --> 00:27:07.440 <v SPEAKER_02>I'm not gonna really try to get into that. 00:27:07.599 --> 00:27:09.599 <v SPEAKER_02>But what's weird about polio is where was it? 00:27:09.680 --> 00:27:22.880 <v SPEAKER_02>It's we we can see it in pygmy tribes, we see it in the blood system of humanity for centuries, and then suddenly, you know, 1900s, 1950, you have these spikes where suddenly we have a major problem with it. 00:27:23.039 --> 00:27:23.359 <v SPEAKER_02>Why? 00:27:23.519 --> 00:27:27.440 <v SPEAKER_02>And then you may think you could look at environmental toxins that were causing it. 00:27:27.519 --> 00:27:29.200 <v SPEAKER_02>But I don't want to get too far down that rabbit hole. 00:27:29.279 --> 00:27:30.319 <v SPEAKER_02>I would say this. 00:27:30.559 --> 00:27:42.799 <v SPEAKER_02>Um polio, you know, and by the way, 1%, you know, less than 1% had the paralysis that we all know about, 99% never even really had, they were asymptomatic, wasn't a major issue at all. 00:27:42.960 --> 00:27:48.319 <v SPEAKER_02>Of that 1%, only a fraction of them would be permanently paralyzed, it would go away. 00:27:48.480 --> 00:27:52.799 <v SPEAKER_02>Um, and then a smaller fraction even still would die. 00:27:53.200 --> 00:27:56.079 <v SPEAKER_02>So again, the numbers are much lower than we're told. 00:27:56.240 --> 00:28:10.319 <v SPEAKER_02>But whatever the case, let's say polio was a dangerous issue, clean, you know, sewage and and and better hygiene and antibiotics, there's so many things we have now that we didn't when these diseases were around. 00:28:10.640 --> 00:28:13.759 <v SPEAKER_02>But even so, we always knew they had side effects. 00:28:13.920 --> 00:28:15.440 <v SPEAKER_02>We always knew it caused polio. 00:28:15.519 --> 00:28:21.279 <v SPEAKER_02>We knew it caused paralysis, we knew it caused cancer, but we were willing to take on that risk, the vaccine. 00:28:21.519 --> 00:28:21.920 <v SPEAKER_02>Correct. 00:28:22.240 --> 00:28:25.440 <v SPEAKER_02>The question is, is chicken pox the same as polio? 00:28:26.079 --> 00:28:33.039 <v SPEAKER_02>Should we be taking on the same risks that we did because of, you know, the that we did with a polio vaccine? 00:28:33.279 --> 00:28:36.400 <v SPEAKER_02>Maybe are we maybe giving too many vaccines at one time? 00:28:36.640 --> 00:28:43.680 <v SPEAKER_02>Have we ever studied giving 10 vaccines to an in fact there's the first SIDS case just paid out this last week. 00:28:43.839 --> 00:28:47.279 <v SPEAKER_02>They've just proven in a court that a baby's SIDS was caused. 00:28:47.359 --> 00:28:51.759 <v SPEAKER_02>They died five hours after getting 10 vaccines at 11 months old. 00:28:51.920 --> 00:28:55.599 <v SPEAKER_02>I mean, why are we giving 10 vaccines to an 11-month-old baby? 00:28:55.759 --> 00:28:56.720 <v SPEAKER_02>I mean, it just defies. 00:28:57.119 --> 00:29:02.000 <v SPEAKER_01>Yeah, it's even Trump said, why why are we taking five at once? 00:29:02.160 --> 00:29:03.839 <v SPEAKER_01>Why do we say, well, spread it out? 00:29:03.920 --> 00:29:04.640 <v SPEAKER_01>It makes more sense. 00:29:04.799 --> 00:29:05.440 <v SPEAKER_01>I mean, he's right. 00:29:05.599 --> 00:29:09.839 <v SPEAKER_01>You know, it's like it's not making an argument for not uh for vaccines or not. 00:29:10.000 --> 00:29:12.240 <v SPEAKER_01>He's saying stacking these doesn't make sense. 00:29:12.480 --> 00:29:12.559 <v SPEAKER_01>No. 00:29:12.720 --> 00:29:12.880 <v SPEAKER_01>Right? 00:29:13.039 --> 00:29:13.440 <v SPEAKER_01>It doesn't. 00:29:13.599 --> 00:29:15.039 <v SPEAKER_01>You know, and that's what we're doing in this country. 00:29:15.119 --> 00:29:15.279 <v SPEAKER_01>Trevor Burrus, Jr. 00:29:15.440 --> 00:29:22.480 <v SPEAKER_02>Well, and let me bring up the last, I think the biggest, because all right, what we've we what we've proven, I've sued the government, that's what my nonprofit does. 00:29:22.559 --> 00:29:26.400 <v SPEAKER_02>We've sued one against FDA, NIH, CDC, Health and Human Services. 00:29:26.480 --> 00:29:27.920 <v SPEAKER_02>No placebo trials were ever done. 00:29:28.000 --> 00:29:30.480 <v SPEAKER_02>So you never established that the product is safe. 00:29:30.640 --> 00:29:34.720 <v SPEAKER_02>You never established that it doesn't cause more harm than good. 00:29:35.119 --> 00:29:37.599 <v SPEAKER_02>Um, so or or vice versa. 00:29:37.839 --> 00:29:41.039 <v SPEAKER_02>Then when you want to do a study now, as you point out, well, can we test it now? 00:29:41.119 --> 00:29:49.920 <v SPEAKER_02>Because there's lots and lots of kids lined up with injuries, and you're saying the vaccines aren't causing it, but you won't let us do a placebo-based study now because it's unethical. 00:29:50.160 --> 00:30:03.119 <v SPEAKER_02>But the last thing they'll say is we don't have to do a study because we've already got, you know, over 50 to 100 years, depending on what vaccine you're looking at, using it, and and it's been proven out that it's safe. 00:30:03.279 --> 00:30:04.079 <v SPEAKER_02>I was like, really? 00:30:04.880 --> 00:30:11.039 <v SPEAKER_02>Because in the same time you've increased that vaccine program in the 1980s, we got 10 vaccines. 00:30:11.200 --> 00:30:17.440 <v SPEAKER_02>We had a 12.8% chronic disease rate in our children, either a neurological disorder or an autoimmune disease. 00:30:17.599 --> 00:30:27.680 <v SPEAKER_02>Now, today we have about 54% of our kids, more than one in two has a chronic disease, either a neurological disorder or an autoimmune disease. 00:30:27.839 --> 00:30:33.519 <v SPEAKER_02>So you're saying that the results, I should look at the health of children as proof that they're safe. 00:30:33.599 --> 00:30:37.359 <v SPEAKER_02>And I'm like, these are the sickest generation we've ever seen in this country. 00:30:37.759 --> 00:30:41.599 <v SPEAKER_02>It's the sickest nation of children in the entire industrialized world. 00:30:41.680 --> 00:30:44.480 <v SPEAKER_02>Then they'll say, Well, you can't blame that on vaccines. 00:30:44.720 --> 00:30:49.279 <v SPEAKER_02>I say, you just use their health as your proof that you don't have to do a safety study. 00:30:49.440 --> 00:30:50.960 <v SPEAKER_02>And what is their big issue? 00:30:51.279 --> 00:30:55.279 <v SPEAKER_02>Autoimmune disease, immune system dysregulation. 00:30:55.440 --> 00:31:02.720 <v SPEAKER_02>For some reason, the immune system of our children has gone haywire and is attacking cells in their own bodies. 00:31:03.680 --> 00:31:05.039 <v SPEAKER_02>That's why the gut problems, that's why. 00:31:06.559 --> 00:31:07.039 <v SPEAKER_02>So I don't know. 00:31:07.200 --> 00:31:18.960 <v SPEAKER_02>And people say, Dell, how do you know it's not the fluoride in our water or the pesticides and herbicides on our crops or the plastics or the forever chemicals and you know, on and on, hormones in our bees? 00:31:19.039 --> 00:31:24.079 <v SPEAKER_02>If it's like all of those things, I, you know, my nonprofit investigates all those things. 00:31:24.400 --> 00:31:36.240 <v SPEAKER_02>But if it's about our immune systems going haywire and being confused, shouldn't we look closest at the one product that's designed to alter your immune system for life? 00:31:36.480 --> 00:31:38.079 <v SPEAKER_02>Because that's what a vaccine's doing. 00:31:38.319 --> 00:31:46.079 <v SPEAKER_02>If you ask someone what does it do, well, it tricks my, so I get a little bit of a virus that's kind of killed or something, it tricks my immune system into thinking I've had a disease. 00:31:46.240 --> 00:31:50.319 <v SPEAKER_02>Okay, but we're not tricking your immune system one time or 10 times or 20 times or 50 times. 00:31:50.720 --> 00:31:52.799 <v SPEAKER_02>Every booster, every booster, every booster. 00:31:53.039 --> 00:31:56.640 <v SPEAKER_02>As a matter of fact, what people do blocking your immune system, all of a sudden it's gone haywire. 00:31:56.799 --> 00:31:58.960 <v SPEAKER_02>It's like, could it possibly be the vaccines? 00:31:59.119 --> 00:31:59.759 <v SPEAKER_02>What do you talk about? 00:31:59.839 --> 00:32:00.799 <v SPEAKER_02>What else could it possibly be? 00:32:01.279 --> 00:32:02.160 <v SPEAKER_01>People need to understand this. 00:32:02.240 --> 00:32:03.440 <v SPEAKER_01>I think they can understand it. 00:32:03.519 --> 00:32:12.960 <v SPEAKER_01>When you get a childhood illness that we're talking about, it stimulates a type 1 autoimmune or a type 1 reaction, immune reaction, and that gives you lifetime immunity. 00:32:13.200 --> 00:32:13.359 <v SPEAKER_01>Yes. 00:32:13.599 --> 00:32:15.680 <v SPEAKER_01>But when you get a vaccine, it goes through that again. 00:32:15.839 --> 00:32:16.079 <v SPEAKER_01>Absolutely. 00:32:16.480 --> 00:32:16.880 <v SPEAKER_01>One time. 00:32:17.119 --> 00:32:19.200 <v SPEAKER_01>So that's a certain type of immune reaction. 00:32:19.440 --> 00:32:26.880 <v SPEAKER_01>When you get a vaccine in the boosters, you're stimulating a type 2, which is an emergency type of reaction, antibody reaction. 00:32:26.960 --> 00:32:33.680 <v SPEAKER_01>That's how we can measure your antibodies up because that gives you that temporary immunity that we're saying is making our children healthier. 00:32:33.920 --> 00:32:42.640 <v SPEAKER_01>The problem is if you emergency stimulate the emergency response, stimulate the emergency response in the immune system, this is where the autoimmune is coming from. 00:32:42.799 --> 00:32:44.480 <v SPEAKER_01>So that kind of brings full circle. 00:32:44.559 --> 00:32:48.000 <v SPEAKER_01>Okay, so we can't convince them to do double blind studies. 00:32:48.160 --> 00:32:51.039 <v SPEAKER_01>They're making the argument that we're making kids healthier. 00:32:51.279 --> 00:32:51.920 <v SPEAKER_01>Okay, great. 00:32:52.079 --> 00:32:56.000 <v SPEAKER_01>So then let's look at a cohort study and let's compare them. 00:32:56.079 --> 00:33:01.680 <v SPEAKER_01>Because if their argument is right, that we don't need double-blind studies because we're making kids healthier, right? 00:33:01.759 --> 00:33:02.799 <v SPEAKER_01>And we have all this proof. 00:33:02.960 --> 00:33:04.240 <v SPEAKER_01>Well, great, let's look at it. 00:33:04.400 --> 00:33:07.039 <v SPEAKER_01>Let's compare the vaccinated to the unvaccinated. 00:33:07.519 --> 00:33:08.480 <v SPEAKER_01>That's what you said. 00:33:08.640 --> 00:33:08.799 <v SPEAKER_01>Yeah. 00:33:08.960 --> 00:33:13.440 <v SPEAKER_01>Tell that story because this now is the next your next documentary that just got released. 00:33:13.519 --> 00:33:13.680 <v SPEAKER_01>Yeah. 00:33:13.920 --> 00:33:17.279 <v SPEAKER_01>It's an inconvenient study that finally was done. 00:33:17.440 --> 00:33:17.519 <v SPEAKER_01>Yeah. 00:33:17.680 --> 00:33:19.200 <v SPEAKER_01>And it is really inconvenient, right? 00:33:20.720 --> 00:33:24.400 <v SPEAKER_01>Let's take it all the way back because that's kind of the argument that you made. 00:33:24.559 --> 00:33:29.279 <v SPEAKER_01>And you knew that it had to be done by one of the top, top, top, otherwise they're going to slam it and criticize it. 00:33:29.599 --> 00:33:34.640 <v SPEAKER_02>Look, if if you or I did this study, they'd be like, come on, you had a bias. 00:33:34.799 --> 00:33:41.759 <v SPEAKER_02>And in fact, this study has been done about five or six times, you know, in a homeschool study done by a guy named Dr. 00:33:41.839 --> 00:33:45.680 <v SPEAKER_02>Anthony Mosson in a in a pediatric clinic by a guy named Dr. 00:33:45.759 --> 00:33:46.559 <v SPEAKER_02>Paul Thomas. 00:33:46.720 --> 00:33:49.279 <v SPEAKER_02>But every time they do the study, they go, well, they had a bias. 00:33:49.440 --> 00:33:50.319 <v SPEAKER_02>They had a bias. 00:33:50.480 --> 00:33:52.079 <v SPEAKER_02>And they just write it off. 00:33:52.400 --> 00:33:56.640 <v SPEAKER_02>But every time the study's been done so far, the vaccinated are coming out a lot sicker. 00:33:56.799 --> 00:34:02.960 <v SPEAKER_02>So in 2016, when I was traveling the country with Vaxed, I was going up through Michigan and somebody contacted me. 00:34:03.039 --> 00:34:04.240 <v SPEAKER_02>I don't know how they got my number. 00:34:04.400 --> 00:34:13.840 <v SPEAKER_02>They said, Look, I'm one of my really good friends is the uh head of infectious disease at Henry Ford Health, which is one of the greatest research institutes in the world. 00:34:14.000 --> 00:34:16.000 <v SPEAKER_02>Would you like to maybe meet for dinner? 00:34:16.320 --> 00:34:17.280 <v SPEAKER_02>I said, sure, I'd definitely be able to do that. 00:34:19.920 --> 00:34:22.960 <v SPEAKER_01>Like if a study comes out of Henry Ford, it's gold. 00:34:23.280 --> 00:34:23.760 <v SPEAKER_02>It's gold. 00:34:24.320 --> 00:34:27.119 <v SPEAKER_02>I mean, this is this is one of the best of the best. 00:34:27.280 --> 00:34:28.960 <v SPEAKER_02>And so um I met this guy. 00:34:29.039 --> 00:34:29.599 <v SPEAKER_02>His name was Dr. 00:34:29.679 --> 00:34:30.719 <v SPEAKER_02>Marcus Zervos. 00:34:30.800 --> 00:34:34.400 <v SPEAKER_02>We sat down to dinner, and he actually surprised me when he sat down to dinner. 00:34:34.480 --> 00:34:37.920 <v SPEAKER_02>The first thing he said is, you know, I I watched your film, which was already huge. 00:34:38.000 --> 00:34:39.679 <v SPEAKER_02>A lot of doctors were like He watched Vax. 00:34:39.920 --> 00:34:41.280 <v SPEAKER_02>Yeah, he watched Vax at that time. 00:34:41.440 --> 00:34:42.239 <v SPEAKER_02>2016. 00:34:42.320 --> 00:34:43.360 <v SPEAKER_02>He's like, it's very compelling. 00:34:43.920 --> 00:34:45.840 <v SPEAKER_01>Now this guy's pro, pro, pro vaccine. 00:34:46.159 --> 00:34:48.239 <v SPEAKER_02>He said, I am pro-vaccine. 00:34:48.320 --> 00:34:50.719 <v SPEAKER_02>Before we say anything, don't get your hopes up. 00:34:50.960 --> 00:34:56.639 <v SPEAKER_02>He's he said, I am the reason we have a mandated vaccine program at Henry Ford Health. 00:34:56.800 --> 00:35:04.719 <v SPEAKER_02>You'll even hear in the movie, because I have uh part of the movie is uh some hidden cameras I had that in another dinner I went to, but we'll get to that in a second. 00:35:04.800 --> 00:35:14.480 <v SPEAKER_02>Um but he's sitting at this dinner and he said, Um, but you you've been saying something as you're traveling the country, been watching these YouTube videos of you that I found very offensive. 00:35:14.639 --> 00:35:21.920 <v SPEAKER_02>You keep saying that they've never done the proper studies to establish safety in any of the childhood vaccines. 00:35:22.159 --> 00:35:25.199 <v SPEAKER_02>He's like, you know, I'm hugely pro-vaccine. 00:35:25.280 --> 00:35:28.000 <v SPEAKER_02>I also sit on all the best, biggest databases in the world. 00:35:28.079 --> 00:35:31.920 <v SPEAKER_02>So I went to go get you that evidence so I could bring it to you. 00:35:32.079 --> 00:35:37.360 <v SPEAKER_02>And he said, I am shocked that I have to sit across from you and tell you you're right. 00:35:37.679 --> 00:35:41.599 <v SPEAKER_02>I I cannot believe actually that we've never done a single placebo-based trial. 00:35:42.000 --> 00:35:43.119 <v SPEAKER_01>He thought there was, like most people. 00:35:43.679 --> 00:35:44.239 <v SPEAKER_01>Like every doctor. 00:35:44.400 --> 00:35:48.000 <v SPEAKER_02>Like when people say, so the doctors are all in on it, they're poisoning me on purpose. 00:35:48.159 --> 00:35:48.400 <v SPEAKER_02>No. 00:35:48.559 --> 00:35:49.920 <v SPEAKER_02>They are told this has been done. 00:35:51.119 --> 00:36:00.960 <v SPEAKER_02>They believe their education, their education told them this has been tested extensively, just like Sanjay Gupta says on TV, there's mountains of evidence that have researched this. 00:36:01.199 --> 00:36:02.400 <v SPEAKER_02>Absolutely not true. 00:36:03.119 --> 00:36:05.840 <v SPEAKER_02>But he believes it until he looked into it. 00:36:06.239 --> 00:36:09.360 <v SPEAKER_02>But then he said to me, look, that doesn't mean vaccines aren't safe. 00:36:09.440 --> 00:36:11.119 <v SPEAKER_02>It just means we can't say that they're safe. 00:36:11.360 --> 00:36:12.880 <v SPEAKER_02>I said, well, that's all I'm saying. 00:36:12.960 --> 00:36:14.400 <v SPEAKER_02>I think that's an important point, though. 00:36:14.639 --> 00:36:17.119 <v SPEAKER_02>I mean, I think everyone assumes you proved they were safe. 00:36:17.440 --> 00:36:19.920 <v SPEAKER_02>Take these vaccines, but we can't say they're safe. 00:36:20.480 --> 00:36:20.639 <v SPEAKER_02>Right. 00:36:20.719 --> 00:36:21.679 <v SPEAKER_02>We're pretty sure they're safe. 00:36:21.840 --> 00:36:22.719 <v SPEAKER_02>We're assuming they're safe. 00:36:22.880 --> 00:36:23.360 <v SPEAKER_02>But we don't know. 00:36:23.519 --> 00:36:23.840 <v SPEAKER_02>We don't know. 00:36:24.079 --> 00:36:25.599 <v SPEAKER_02>Would you still give that vaccine to your child? 00:36:25.920 --> 00:36:26.480 <v SPEAKER_02>That's a really good question. 00:36:26.719 --> 00:36:28.000 <v SPEAKER_02>Yeah, imagine a cancer drug. 00:36:28.079 --> 00:36:28.239 <v SPEAKER_02>Yeah. 00:36:28.400 --> 00:36:29.519 <v SPEAKER_02>We're pretty sure it's safe. 00:36:29.599 --> 00:36:32.639 <v SPEAKER_02>We didn't test for it, but we got a good feeling inside. 00:36:32.800 --> 00:36:33.039 <v SPEAKER_02>Okay. 00:36:33.440 --> 00:36:35.440 <v SPEAKER_02>And by the way, we're going to make$100 billion on it. 00:36:35.519 --> 00:36:39.039 <v SPEAKER_02>But don't let that, you know, look like a conflict of interest. 00:36:39.199 --> 00:36:41.519 <v SPEAKER_02>So anyway, he said, I I don't know what I can do for you. 00:36:41.599 --> 00:36:43.119 <v SPEAKER_02>Um, you know, I'm pro-vaccine. 00:36:43.280 --> 00:36:44.320 <v SPEAKER_02>I said, well, hold on. 00:36:44.559 --> 00:36:47.280 <v SPEAKER_02>You do like big studies for Henry Ford, right? 00:36:47.440 --> 00:36:48.960 <v SPEAKER_02>You use the databases, all that. 00:36:49.039 --> 00:36:55.440 <v SPEAKER_02>You're one of the you know preeminent scientists of the world on health and infectious diseases. 00:36:55.679 --> 00:36:56.000 <v SPEAKER_02>Yeah. 00:36:56.239 --> 00:37:02.400 <v SPEAKER_02>I said, would you ever do a study that compared the health outcomes of vaccinated children with completely unvaccinated children? 00:37:02.880 --> 00:37:05.039 <v SPEAKER_02>Because I think that would end this conversation forever. 00:37:05.199 --> 00:37:08.239 <v SPEAKER_02>Since I think vaccines are dangerous, you think they're safe. 00:37:08.480 --> 00:37:16.800 <v SPEAKER_02>The only way we're going to get over this, which is now starting to tear this country apart, why don't you just compare these two groups of children and see who's healthier? 00:37:17.039 --> 00:37:19.280 <v SPEAKER_02>And he said, Yeah, I'll I would do that study. 00:37:20.159 --> 00:37:21.440 <v SPEAKER_02>What did you feel in that moment? 00:37:21.679 --> 00:37:23.920 <v SPEAKER_02>I was blown away, first of all. 00:37:24.079 --> 00:37:28.400 <v SPEAKER_01>And it's uh I I was like, Yeah, I would be like, I have to run to the bathroom because I might have just shot. 00:37:30.719 --> 00:37:40.159 <v SPEAKER_02>I was like, wow, is that and then I felt obligated to tell him, like, look, you know, other people like gone in and say, never like you and never this institution. 00:37:40.320 --> 00:37:45.039 <v SPEAKER_02>But if if it turns out the way I think it would, it could be really devastating to your career. 00:37:45.360 --> 00:37:46.159 <v SPEAKER_01>But he didn't believe it. 00:37:46.239 --> 00:37:46.960 <v SPEAKER_01>There's a chance that it would. 00:37:47.280 --> 00:37:47.519 <v SPEAKER_02>I don't know. 00:37:47.599 --> 00:37:48.079 <v SPEAKER_02>He didn't say that. 00:37:48.239 --> 00:37:50.960 <v SPEAKER_02>What he said to me is, I don't care about things like that. 00:37:51.039 --> 00:37:52.800 <v SPEAKER_02>I follow the data where it leads me. 00:37:53.440 --> 00:37:55.599 <v SPEAKER_02>And besides, I'm I'm near retirement age. 00:37:55.840 --> 00:37:58.800 <v SPEAKER_01>But for him to say that, he believed it was gonna come out. 00:38:01.760 --> 00:38:02.880 <v SPEAKER_01>He believed he had a royal flush. 00:38:03.119 --> 00:38:03.280 <v SPEAKER_01>He does. 00:38:03.360 --> 00:38:05.760 <v SPEAKER_02>He's like, whatever, I'll tell this guy I'm gonna blow up him a little bit. 00:38:06.320 --> 00:38:07.760 <v SPEAKER_02>I know who else did you show? 00:38:08.320 --> 00:38:11.519 <v SPEAKER_02>So he ended up um I I I kept the relationship going. 00:38:11.679 --> 00:38:12.880 <v SPEAKER_02>It took till about 2020. 00:38:12.960 --> 00:38:17.280 <v SPEAKER_02>So four years later, he finally got the study finished. 00:38:17.360 --> 00:38:19.119 <v SPEAKER_02>And I we only had one rule about it. 00:38:19.360 --> 00:38:29.599 <v SPEAKER_02>Like, whatever, whatever it ends up showing, and you've stated how pro-vaccine you are, so I'm pretty sure you've got whatever biases you can bring to this thing are covered, you know. 00:38:29.760 --> 00:38:31.920 <v SPEAKER_02>Um, but whatever you find, publish it. 00:38:32.000 --> 00:38:32.960 <v SPEAKER_02>He's like, absolutely. 00:38:33.119 --> 00:38:35.599 <v SPEAKER_02>So then he gets it done in 2020, doesn't publish it. 00:38:35.760 --> 00:38:36.960 <v SPEAKER_02>Like is refusing to publish. 00:38:37.039 --> 00:38:40.480 <v SPEAKER_02>In fact, won't get on a phone for some time, many, many months. 00:38:40.559 --> 00:38:41.039 <v SPEAKER_02>I'm like, Dr. 00:38:41.199 --> 00:38:42.159 <v SPEAKER_02>Cervos, what's going on? 00:38:42.559 --> 00:38:52.320 <v SPEAKER_01>Were you at all nervous, though, that his because so much depended on this, his reputation, the the hospital, everything, that they would fudge the numbers in the end? 00:38:52.400 --> 00:38:54.000 <v SPEAKER_01>Did you did that cross your mind? 00:38:54.480 --> 00:38:58.320 <v SPEAKER_02>I'll tell you why that's never been my concern. 00:38:58.400 --> 00:39:03.039 <v SPEAKER_02>And people have because I after that meeting him, I still stood on stages. 00:39:03.119 --> 00:39:09.440 <v SPEAKER_02>I stand on stages every time and say the CDC just needs to do a vaccinated versus unvaccinated study, and we could get to the bottom of this. 00:39:09.599 --> 00:39:10.559 <v SPEAKER_02>And why won't they? 00:39:10.800 --> 00:39:13.039 <v SPEAKER_02>And people say, Dell, for exactly that reason. 00:39:13.199 --> 00:39:16.000 <v SPEAKER_02>You keep challenging the CDC to do this study. 00:39:16.159 --> 00:39:20.639 <v SPEAKER_02>They're going to manipulate it and put something out, and then you'll really be screwed. 00:39:20.880 --> 00:39:22.880 <v SPEAKER_02>And I and here's my thinking. 00:39:23.039 --> 00:39:24.400 <v SPEAKER_02>I said, Don't you think? 00:39:24.559 --> 00:39:26.559 <v SPEAKER_02>I mean, the rise of Robert Kenny Jr. 00:39:26.719 --> 00:39:28.800 <v SPEAKER_02>was I think a PBS special out two weeks ago. 00:39:28.960 --> 00:39:30.559 <v SPEAKER_02>The rise of Robert Kenning Jr. 00:39:30.880 --> 00:39:33.039 <v SPEAKER_02>to the most powerful position health. 00:39:33.199 --> 00:39:34.639 <v SPEAKER_02>No one in pharma wants him there. 00:39:34.800 --> 00:39:36.880 <v SPEAKER_02>Certainly no one in vaccines wants him there. 00:39:37.039 --> 00:39:40.960 <v SPEAKER_02>Uh, my the success of my first movie, this movie's now gone viral. 00:39:41.039 --> 00:39:45.199 <v SPEAKER_02>We're, you know, tens of millions, probably moving towards 100 million views. 00:39:45.360 --> 00:39:47.199 <v SPEAKER_02>I have debates happening in science. 00:39:47.360 --> 00:39:56.239 <v SPEAKER_02>All of that would be shut down if you could simply produce a study that compared vaccinated to unvaccinated and show, look, the vaccinated are healthier. 00:39:56.320 --> 00:39:58.239 <v SPEAKER_02>They have lower rates of autism, as it turns out. 00:39:58.559 --> 00:39:59.760 <v SPEAKER_02>They have less ADHD. 00:39:59.920 --> 00:40:02.159 <v SPEAKER_02>So there you go, less asthma, all of that. 00:40:02.239 --> 00:40:03.360 <v SPEAKER_02>It would be over. 00:40:03.519 --> 00:40:06.400 <v SPEAKER_02>And so I assumed since Robert Kenney Jr. 00:40:06.480 --> 00:40:11.199 <v SPEAKER_02>had already, by the 2016, he'd already been dragged through the mud for over a decade. 00:40:11.599 --> 00:40:19.199 <v SPEAKER_02>Andy Wakefield and all these names, and Jenny McCarthy's and you know, Cherry Tenbennies and, you know, were out there. 00:40:19.440 --> 00:40:29.599 <v SPEAKER_02>And so it wasn't, it can't be lost on the CDC that all we would have to do is compare vaccinated to unvaccinated and show that the vaccine are healthier. 00:40:29.679 --> 00:40:31.519 <v SPEAKER_02>And these people have no argument. 00:40:31.599 --> 00:40:32.559 <v SPEAKER_02>This is over. 00:40:33.039 --> 00:40:39.679 <v SPEAKER_02>And so, and by the way, it's exactly the type of study they do to establish safety on every other product in the world. 00:40:39.760 --> 00:40:41.280 <v SPEAKER_02>So they know how to do this study. 00:40:41.360 --> 00:40:44.239 <v SPEAKER_02>It's it's actually like the basic principle of science. 00:40:44.480 --> 00:40:54.719 <v SPEAKER_02>So I assumed while I was sitting there, not only do I believe they've done this study, I believe they have tried to take these kids out, make this excuse, move this around. 00:40:54.880 --> 00:40:58.639 <v SPEAKER_02>Like they must have done that study like a thousand different ways. 00:40:58.800 --> 00:41:07.440 <v SPEAKER_02>Because if just one of them, if there's just one way you could get out and make it look like the vaccinated are truly healthier, this would be the headline across the world and we would be. 00:41:07.920 --> 00:41:11.519 <v SPEAKER_01>If your name's on that study, you're a hero, and you're gonna be interviewed and your career's stacked. 00:41:11.760 --> 00:41:12.079 <v SPEAKER_02>That's it. 00:41:12.159 --> 00:41:24.239 <v SPEAKER_02>And so, no, when he said I'll do it, I'm like, I am pretty damn sure that this problem is so bad, or I would have seen one, 10, 20 of these studies. 00:41:24.320 --> 00:41:28.480 <v SPEAKER_02>This is the easiest way to end the entire anti-vaccine argument. 00:41:28.639 --> 00:41:32.000 <v SPEAKER_02>So sure enough, you know, 2020, he's not publishing it. 00:41:32.079 --> 00:41:33.280 <v SPEAKER_02>Uh, I keep calling him. 00:41:33.440 --> 00:41:37.039 <v SPEAKER_02>Finally, I about by 2022, I'm getting a little pissed off. 00:41:37.119 --> 00:41:38.320 <v SPEAKER_02>Uh, it's a long time. 00:41:38.639 --> 00:41:39.119 <v SPEAKER_02>It's a long time. 00:41:39.199 --> 00:41:39.519 <v SPEAKER_02>Two years. 00:41:39.679 --> 00:41:42.400 <v SPEAKER_02>Like, come on, man, you promised, you know, I was like, let's get dinner. 00:41:42.480 --> 00:41:44.559 <v SPEAKER_02>He's like, all right, come out for dinner, let's talk. 00:41:44.880 --> 00:41:45.679 <v SPEAKER_02>He must have liked you. 00:41:45.840 --> 00:41:46.159 <v SPEAKER_02>He did. 00:41:46.400 --> 00:41:47.280 <v SPEAKER_02>Because why would he go to dinner? 00:41:47.599 --> 00:41:58.960 <v SPEAKER_02>No, I mean, and and that's I want to make that point too, because a lot of a lot of times on our side of this conversation, we'll attack doctors or attack, you'd be mean to reporters or people that disagree with us. 00:41:59.119 --> 00:42:00.960 <v SPEAKER_02>I you never approach things that way. 00:42:01.119 --> 00:42:02.559 <v SPEAKER_02>Like, I I know he's a good person. 00:42:02.800 --> 00:42:04.239 <v SPEAKER_02>I see people as being good people. 00:42:04.320 --> 00:42:07.920 <v SPEAKER_02>I know you believe, you know, I think you think you're saving children's lives. 00:42:09.039 --> 00:42:10.960 <v SPEAKER_01>There's something about him you liked as well, I'm sure. 00:42:11.119 --> 00:42:11.199 <v SPEAKER_01>Yeah. 00:42:11.760 --> 00:42:16.239 <v SPEAKER_02>Well, also, he had just been the scientist in the middle of the Flint, Michigan water crisis. 00:42:16.480 --> 00:42:20.239 <v SPEAKER_02>So he went against the health department and said you're poisoning the understanding. 00:42:20.719 --> 00:42:22.719 <v SPEAKER_01>So you sensed he had an honest heart. 00:42:23.039 --> 00:42:27.119 <v SPEAKER_01>He just believed that the vaccines were absolutely doing good, but you sensed that. 00:42:32.320 --> 00:42:32.480 <v SPEAKER_02>Mm-hmm. 00:42:33.039 --> 00:42:35.039 <v SPEAKER_02>The orthodoxy was around this. 00:42:35.199 --> 00:42:37.760 <v SPEAKER_02>I'm sure once the study, I mean, look, this is all speculation. 00:42:37.920 --> 00:42:40.320 <v SPEAKER_02>I have a cease and desist letter from Henry Ford Health. 00:42:40.400 --> 00:42:41.519 <v SPEAKER_02>They're threatening defamation. 00:42:41.599 --> 00:42:44.960 <v SPEAKER_02>So let me be really careful to say this is all my opinion. 00:42:45.199 --> 00:42:45.920 <v SPEAKER_02>I'm not in there. 00:42:46.000 --> 00:42:46.719 <v SPEAKER_02>I don't work there. 00:42:46.960 --> 00:42:56.480 <v SPEAKER_02>I can only go with what Zervos has said to me, what I've seen with all the other scientists that have had their careers taken away because they asked or dare to do a study like this. 00:42:56.719 --> 00:42:59.760 <v SPEAKER_02>But ultimately, yeah, I think he probably did it. 00:43:00.000 --> 00:43:02.480 <v SPEAKER_02>Said, wow, those are really scary numbers. 00:43:02.719 --> 00:43:06.480 <v SPEAKER_02>Let someone at Henry Ford either appear, because he's pretty high up. 00:43:06.639 --> 00:43:08.239 <v SPEAKER_02>He doesn't really have a boss. 00:43:08.320 --> 00:43:14.079 <v SPEAKER_02>So it's not like I don't think someone brings the boom down on him, but there must have been just sheer terror. 00:43:14.159 --> 00:43:16.320 <v SPEAKER_02>I'm guessing, because why not publish it? 00:43:16.480 --> 00:43:18.320 <v SPEAKER_02>You can make a difference in the world if you do. 00:43:18.559 --> 00:43:21.280 <v SPEAKER_02>So anyway, I called him, said, let's get dinner. 00:43:21.360 --> 00:43:23.840 <v SPEAKER_02>And I did something I've never really done before. 00:43:24.000 --> 00:43:25.840 <v SPEAKER_02>I And by the way, this is in the film. 00:43:26.159 --> 00:43:27.280 <v SPEAKER_02>It's in this is the heart of the film. 00:43:27.679 --> 00:43:28.400 <v SPEAKER_01>How do they watch the film? 00:43:28.480 --> 00:43:28.960 <v SPEAKER_01>Tell them right now. 00:43:29.119 --> 00:43:30.159 <v SPEAKER_01>You guys wait till you see this. 00:43:30.239 --> 00:43:30.719 <v SPEAKER_01>Wait till you see it. 00:43:31.039 --> 00:43:34.320 <v SPEAKER_02>For free right now, ninconvenience study.com. 00:43:34.480 --> 00:43:37.039 <v SPEAKER_02>You can go there, you can watch the movie for free. 00:43:37.199 --> 00:43:44.320 <v SPEAKER_02>You can even read the study, you can print it out, and we even publish all of the attacks from Henry Ford Health on the Speaker. 00:43:45.519 --> 00:43:48.480 <v SPEAKER_02>This is an NIConvenient Study.com. 00:43:48.800 --> 00:43:50.400 <v SPEAKER_01>An Inconvenient Study.com. 00:43:50.639 --> 00:43:52.719 <v SPEAKER_01>And so I wait till you see it. 00:43:52.960 --> 00:43:53.440 <v SPEAKER_01>You c okay. 00:43:53.519 --> 00:43:55.039 <v SPEAKER_01>So hidden cameras recording. 00:43:55.360 --> 00:43:56.880 <v SPEAKER_02>Come in with a hidden camera to this dinner. 00:43:57.199 --> 00:43:59.599 <v SPEAKER_02>Me and assistant just w or well, let's go to dinner. 00:44:00.159 --> 00:44:00.239 <v SPEAKER_02>Okay. 00:44:00.880 --> 00:44:02.480 <v SPEAKER_02>And I wanted to know what's in the study. 00:44:03.119 --> 00:44:06.079 <v SPEAKER_02>You see him, I get handed the study right there at that dinner table. 00:44:06.320 --> 00:44:06.800 <v SPEAKER_02>Hadn't seen it. 00:44:07.039 --> 00:44:07.280 <v SPEAKER_02>I know. 00:44:08.000 --> 00:44:14.000 <v SPEAKER_02>I've heard little he'd he'd alluded to there's some issues for the hands it to me. 00:44:14.079 --> 00:44:16.320 <v SPEAKER_02>So I'm looking at these insane numbers. 00:44:16.480 --> 00:44:20.800 <v SPEAKER_02>I mean, six times the rate of neurodevelopmental disorders. 00:44:20.880 --> 00:44:23.360 <v SPEAKER_01>Trevor Burrus, Jr.: Six times of the autoimmune, too. 00:44:23.440 --> 00:44:25.760 <v SPEAKER_02>Trevor Burrus, Jr.: And six times autoimmune disease. 00:44:30.639 --> 00:44:30.960 <v SPEAKER_02>Oh my God. 00:44:31.199 --> 00:44:34.800 <v SPEAKER_02>And vaccines, you know, compared to the unvaccinated, it's by the way. 00:44:34.960 --> 00:44:42.880 <v SPEAKER_01>It's arguably autoimmune is driving autism, too, because the body attacks the receptor, all the stuff about the folate, right? 00:44:45.440 --> 00:44:51.119 <v SPEAKER_01>Tylenol makes it worse because of its effect on that folate receptor that the body's immune system is attacking. 00:44:51.280 --> 00:44:55.519 <v SPEAKER_01>So there's an argument that autoimmune is part of this autism explosion. 00:44:55.760 --> 00:44:56.400 <v SPEAKER_01>So oh my God. 00:44:56.800 --> 00:45:01.360 <v SPEAKER_02>I mean, as you know, more and more of our health is going to the gut biome. 00:45:01.840 --> 00:45:02.559 <v SPEAKER_02>And we know vaccines. 00:45:02.960 --> 00:45:04.400 <v SPEAKER_02>We know it's autoimmune there too. 00:45:04.559 --> 00:45:04.719 <v SPEAKER_02>Yeah. 00:45:05.199 --> 00:45:07.280 <v SPEAKER_02>So there's so many different reasons it would be the case. 00:45:07.360 --> 00:45:20.800 <v SPEAKER_02>But these so the and so the conclusion of his study, a guy that said to me over and over, even says while the cameras are rolling, I mean, I got you saying a lot is like, you know, that I am pro-vaccine, okay? 00:45:20.960 --> 00:45:22.480 <v SPEAKER_02>I cannot explain these numbers. 00:45:22.639 --> 00:45:33.199 <v SPEAKER_02>But the conclusion of this paper is you are 2.5 times more likely to develop chronic disease if you're vaccinated compared to those that aren't vaccinated. 00:45:33.360 --> 00:45:59.840 <v SPEAKER_02>And the really mind-blowing chart that's in it shows over the course of 10 years, it sort of projects out, because most of these kids were like four or five years old that were in the study, if it projects out at 10 years, it showed that 57% of the children who got one vaccine or more would have a chronic disease, where only 17% would have chronic disease if they weren't vaccinated. 00:46:00.320 --> 00:46:04.880 <v SPEAKER_02>So the I mean it's just and and so here's what I think is so important about. 00:46:05.119 --> 00:46:12.960 <v SPEAKER_02>As I said before, five other studies, some people even say 10 studies, depending on how you define a vaccinated versus an unvaccinated study. 00:46:13.119 --> 00:46:25.280 <v SPEAKER_02>But this is the first time that I know of that a major medical institution that does research science like this for a living that states how pro-vaccine it is. 00:46:25.440 --> 00:46:29.119 <v SPEAKER_02>The lead author tells me over and over again, I'm pro-vaccine. 00:46:29.280 --> 00:46:33.280 <v SPEAKER_02>So we, this is the first time this study's been done to prove us wrong. 00:46:33.519 --> 00:46:39.840 <v SPEAKER_02>And instead, I think it's the most damning study we've ever seen for the vaccinated. 00:46:39.920 --> 00:46:43.840 <v SPEAKER_02>And like I said, if it stood all by itself, you go, well, maybe it's an anomaly. 00:46:44.000 --> 00:46:47.760 <v SPEAKER_02>Maybe it's the 20, it's like it's about 19,000 kids in the study. 00:46:47.920 --> 00:46:51.039 <v SPEAKER_02>Maybe these 19,000 in Michigan are different than the rest of the world. 00:46:51.119 --> 00:46:54.559 <v SPEAKER_02>You could say that, but it's the fact that this isn't the first one, it's the fifth one. 00:46:55.280 --> 00:47:02.000 <v SPEAKER_02>And every time this study's done, it's what we now, I think, can refer to as reproducible science. 00:47:02.239 --> 00:47:02.880 <v SPEAKER_02>Yeah, it's just a good thing. 00:47:03.039 --> 00:47:07.920 <v SPEAKER_02>And it doesn't matter if you hate vaccines and do the study or you love vaccines and do the study. 00:47:08.639 --> 00:47:10.800 <v SPEAKER_02>We're seeing that science. 00:47:11.119 --> 00:47:12.960 <v SPEAKER_01>But people say, hey, I follow the science. 00:47:13.199 --> 00:47:13.360 <v SPEAKER_01>Right. 00:47:13.519 --> 00:47:13.679 <v SPEAKER_01>Do you? 00:47:14.000 --> 00:47:15.519 <v SPEAKER_02>You cannot do better science than that. 00:47:15.599 --> 00:47:21.599 <v SPEAKER_02>And so Henry Ford is saying the study was not a good study, it's not good data, and that's their own. 00:47:21.760 --> 00:47:24.239 <v SPEAKER_01>Well, but you asked him, you asked the man himself. 00:47:24.400 --> 00:47:27.679 <v SPEAKER_01>You said, is there anything you would do different about the study? 00:47:27.760 --> 00:47:28.960 <v SPEAKER_01>Do you believe this is a great study? 00:47:29.119 --> 00:47:29.440 <v SPEAKER_01>His answer. 00:47:29.840 --> 00:47:33.280 <v SPEAKER_02>He says, I wouldn't I don't know how you could do this study any better. 00:47:33.679 --> 00:47:36.880 <v SPEAKER_02>Uh it's a good study, it's an important study multiple times. 00:47:36.960 --> 00:47:39.599 <v SPEAKER_02>You'll see I give them every opportunity. 00:47:40.239 --> 00:47:41.280 <v SPEAKER_01>They would come around and try to say that. 00:47:41.599 --> 00:47:43.119 <v SPEAKER_02>I assume this is what they're going to do. 00:47:43.280 --> 00:47:44.000 <v SPEAKER_02>And he says it. 00:47:44.159 --> 00:47:44.400 <v SPEAKER_02>Yeah. 00:47:44.639 --> 00:47:49.440 <v SPEAKER_02>He says the only reason I'm not publishing this is it will be the end of my career. 00:47:49.760 --> 00:47:50.960 <v SPEAKER_02>He said, I will be finished. 00:47:51.360 --> 00:47:53.760 <v SPEAKER_02>He's like, Dell, if I publish it, it'll be pointless. 00:47:53.920 --> 00:48:00.079 <v SPEAKER_02>They're just going to come out, they're going to say it's not a good study, they're going to attack me, and I'm tired of being attacked. 00:48:00.239 --> 00:48:02.000 <v SPEAKER_02>I don't want to be attacked on this. 00:48:02.159 --> 00:48:02.559 <v SPEAKER_02>I'm not. 00:48:02.639 --> 00:48:04.639 <v SPEAKER_02>And at one point, he even says, I'm not a good person. 00:48:04.719 --> 00:48:07.840 <v SPEAKER_02>I'm not one of those people that's like I'm not good under fire, right? 00:48:08.800 --> 00:48:12.320 <v SPEAKER_01>You know, and then you hit him at the right blow, if you will. 00:48:12.480 --> 00:48:15.199 <v SPEAKER_01>You said, Yeah, but think about all of the kids. 00:48:15.360 --> 00:48:17.599 <v SPEAKER_01>Think about all the kids that are getting hurt by this. 00:48:17.840 --> 00:48:23.519 <v SPEAKER_01>And he said, and this was such a weak point, but this is what he's hanging his hat on. 00:48:23.679 --> 00:48:27.679 <v SPEAKER_01>He said, Yeah, but even if we publish it, nothing's going to change anyway. 00:48:27.840 --> 00:48:28.880 <v SPEAKER_01>That was his justification. 00:48:29.360 --> 00:48:30.079 <v SPEAKER_02>Politics won't change. 00:48:30.320 --> 00:48:30.960 <v SPEAKER_01>Nothing will change. 00:48:31.039 --> 00:48:32.960 <v SPEAKER_01>So why should I ruin my career? 00:48:33.119 --> 00:48:34.000 <v SPEAKER_01>He's basically saying. 00:48:34.480 --> 00:48:37.599 <v SPEAKER_01>Because even if I publish it, I'll go down, but nothing will change. 00:48:37.840 --> 00:48:41.840 <v SPEAKER_02>How many, and it makes you ask the question how many other Dr. 00:48:42.079 --> 00:48:52.880 <v SPEAKER_02>Zervos have ever looked at this science thinking they were going to get it right, and then just shuffled it under the bed and said, let's just let Sanjay Gupta keep telling everybody vaccines are perfectly safe. 00:48:53.039 --> 00:48:58.239 <v SPEAKER_02>Let's let's lie to every pediatrician and let them believe they're doing the right thing because they believe they're doing the right thing. 00:48:58.480 --> 00:48:58.880 <v SPEAKER_02>Yeah, I know. 00:48:59.119 --> 00:48:59.280 <v SPEAKER_02>You know? 00:48:59.760 --> 00:49:00.000 <v SPEAKER_03>Of course. 00:49:00.159 --> 00:49:08.320 <v SPEAKER_02>And let's let them, every time they have another patient, because like one in 30 of their patients, their kids are autistic, they're like, oh, it's normal that was going to happen anyway. 00:49:08.480 --> 00:49:09.760 <v SPEAKER_02>Let's let them keep saying that. 00:49:10.000 --> 00:49:10.159 <v SPEAKER_02>Wow. 00:49:10.320 --> 00:49:19.519 <v SPEAKER_02>And when they have asthma and eczema and psoriasis and lupus and Crohn's disease and multiple sclerosis, I mean, this is our kids are so sick. 00:49:20.000 --> 00:49:21.440 <v SPEAKER_01>It's unbelievable, right? 00:49:21.599 --> 00:49:22.079 <v SPEAKER_02>I mean, it is. 00:49:22.400 --> 00:49:30.559 <v SPEAKER_02>And to think that the very people that are trying to make them healthier are actually the ones making them sick and they don't even know. 00:49:30.639 --> 00:49:32.320 <v SPEAKER_02>And I'm talking about the pediatricians. 00:49:32.559 --> 00:49:33.519 <v SPEAKER_01>Yeah, absolutely. 00:49:33.679 --> 00:49:38.880 <v SPEAKER_01>You know, and and we would argue that the pediatricians, the doctors, really have good hearts in it. 00:49:38.960 --> 00:49:43.039 <v SPEAKER_01>So why can't they truly look at the science Dell? 00:49:43.280 --> 00:49:46.239 <v SPEAKER_01>Why can't they look at this and see it for what it is? 00:49:46.400 --> 00:49:49.599 <v SPEAKER_01>Why are they so emotionally bound up over here? 00:49:49.840 --> 00:49:50.320 <v SPEAKER_01>Why? 00:49:50.559 --> 00:49:54.320 <v SPEAKER_02>Well, first of all, up until this moment, there is no science. 00:49:54.480 --> 00:49:55.840 <v SPEAKER_02>There's no studies to go look at. 00:49:55.920 --> 00:49:56.800 <v SPEAKER_02>There's mountain of evidence. 00:49:56.880 --> 00:49:57.519 <v SPEAKER_02>I've proven that to you. 00:49:57.840 --> 00:49:58.079 <v SPEAKER_02>Now we have. 00:49:58.320 --> 00:49:59.840 <v SPEAKER_02>I mean, we now we have it. 00:49:59.920 --> 00:50:01.840 <v SPEAKER_02>And and so they are. 00:50:02.000 --> 00:50:04.159 <v SPEAKER_02>I mean, look, I think COVID was the first time. 00:50:04.400 --> 00:50:05.920 <v SPEAKER_02>I think I think it opened some eyes. 00:50:06.079 --> 00:50:10.719 <v SPEAKER_02>It opened, I mean, 30% of mainstream doctors did not get the COVID vaccine. 00:50:10.880 --> 00:50:16.079 <v SPEAKER_02>I remember they were asked on the stand, the head of CDC, during COVID, how many of your staff have gotten the COVID vaccine? 00:50:16.159 --> 00:50:17.440 <v SPEAKER_02>They're like, I don't know, like 50%. 00:50:17.840 --> 00:50:18.400 <v SPEAKER_02>Like 50%. 00:50:18.719 --> 00:50:21.760 <v SPEAKER_02>They go to the FDA, and the FDA is like, yeah, about the same. 00:50:21.920 --> 00:50:24.639 <v SPEAKER_02>Like the people that were in the know was like, I'm not taking that dang thing. 00:50:24.960 --> 00:50:25.599 <v SPEAKER_02>Yeah, absolutely. 00:50:25.760 --> 00:50:26.159 <v SPEAKER_02>You know? 00:50:26.320 --> 00:50:36.639 <v SPEAKER_02>And I think that watching that and the amount of doctors that watch them say that ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine could be dangerous, therefore it shouldn't be used. 00:50:36.800 --> 00:50:42.400 <v SPEAKER_02>We don't have anything else that works, and we don't care how many doctors are saying this works, this could be dangerous. 00:50:42.639 --> 00:50:51.199 <v SPEAKER_02>And every doctor on the planet knows like the safest drugs in existence, the at the top of the list is both hydroxychloroquine and ivermectin. 00:50:51.760 --> 00:50:55.760 <v SPEAKER_02>So there were things like that, like I said, where they were like, that's not true. 00:50:55.920 --> 00:50:57.679 <v SPEAKER_02>Wait a minute, that's not true. 00:50:57.840 --> 00:51:00.239 <v SPEAKER_02>So there is an awakening happening. 00:51:00.400 --> 00:51:14.480 <v SPEAKER_02>And then I think all the doctors that, you know, told their recommended the COVID vaccine to protect your family members, to protect your grandparents, and then only to find out, you know, later on, they always knew it couldn't stop transmission, that that wasn't even true. 00:51:14.639 --> 00:51:14.719 <v SPEAKER_02>Yeah. 00:51:14.960 --> 00:51:19.679 <v SPEAKER_02>And that myocarditis and swelling of the heart is more prevalent in boys than the disease itself. 00:51:22.320 --> 00:51:23.440 <v SPEAKER_02>I feel bad for doctors. 00:51:23.519 --> 00:51:25.440 <v SPEAKER_02>Their world is crashing down. 00:51:26.000 --> 00:51:28.079 <v SPEAKER_02>They were never taught, they're not scientists. 00:51:28.159 --> 00:51:30.559 <v SPEAKER_02>Remember, your doctor doesn't go and do studies. 00:51:30.639 --> 00:51:33.280 <v SPEAKER_02>They don't read studies, they don't go out of the way to read studies. 00:51:33.440 --> 00:51:41.440 <v SPEAKER_02>They're assuming that what's coming down from on hype, if the CDC says it, it must be true, which is why I call it. 00:51:41.519 --> 00:51:45.280 <v SPEAKER_02>And I, you know, I saw you had my lawyer's book out there, Vaccines, Amen. 00:51:47.440 --> 00:51:48.320 <v SPEAKER_02>Yeah, he's in the film. 00:51:48.639 --> 00:51:49.280 <v SPEAKER_02>I forgot to bring it up. 00:51:49.599 --> 00:51:56.559 <v SPEAKER_02>But it's really, it's really become much more like a religion or a cult than a science. 00:51:56.800 --> 00:51:58.400 <v SPEAKER_02>A science wants to be challenged. 00:51:58.559 --> 00:52:12.079 <v SPEAKER_02>A science is all about the scientific method demands that anyone that has a complaint or a theory that can or a hypothesis that can undo the standing opinion or perspective is like invited to the front of the table. 00:52:12.159 --> 00:52:12.239 <v SPEAKER_02>Yeah. 00:52:12.480 --> 00:52:13.440 <v SPEAKER_02>Sort of like Charlie Kirk. 00:52:13.519 --> 00:52:15.119 <v SPEAKER_02>I don't want everyone agreeing with me. 00:52:15.199 --> 00:52:16.480 <v SPEAKER_02>I want the one that disagrees with me. 00:52:17.119 --> 00:52:18.800 <v SPEAKER_02>That's what science is supposed to do. 00:52:18.960 --> 00:52:26.639 <v SPEAKER_02>When it starts saying you're not allowed to ask a question, this science is settled forever, you know, and it's safe and effective, and that's it. 00:52:26.719 --> 00:52:29.920 <v SPEAKER_02>And if you question me as a pediatrician, get out of my practice. 00:52:30.000 --> 00:52:31.039 <v SPEAKER_02>I don't want to see your kids anymore. 00:52:31.360 --> 00:52:35.519 <v SPEAKER_01>Well, people have to understand though, the pediatricians, uh, the system's rigged here. 00:52:35.599 --> 00:52:41.679 <v SPEAKER_01>Uh, you know, they get bonused for the vaccines, they get punished if they don't vaccinate a certain percentage of their body. 00:52:42.239 --> 00:52:43.920 <v SPEAKER_01>You know, people need to know this, right? 00:52:44.000 --> 00:52:49.599 <v SPEAKER_01>So there's a lot of pressure on them because this vaccine thing is this is big pharma's cash cow. 00:52:49.920 --> 00:52:54.719 <v SPEAKER_01>So when because they're making so much money, you're going to get that response. 00:52:55.119 --> 00:52:56.320 <v SPEAKER_01>We don't want questioned. 00:52:56.400 --> 00:52:57.519 <v SPEAKER_01>We don't want you to look at this. 00:52:57.599 --> 00:53:02.639 <v SPEAKER_01>These people are just whack jobs, you know, and this is anti-science, but it's not. 00:53:02.800 --> 00:53:07.679 <v SPEAKER_01>Everyone listening, you need to get your doctors, your pediatrician, to watch this film. 00:53:08.000 --> 00:53:13.280 <v SPEAKER_02>Yeah, it's it's a lot of doctors are reaching out to me and saying, Inconvenience study and inconvenience study.com. 00:53:13.599 --> 00:53:19.119 <v SPEAKER_01>Because if I believe that any doctor with a good heart is gonna watch this and go, oh crap. 00:53:19.360 --> 00:53:19.920 <v SPEAKER_02>Yeah. 00:53:20.159 --> 00:53:20.719 <v SPEAKER_02>I think so. 00:53:20.960 --> 00:53:21.440 <v SPEAKER_01>I got it wrong. 00:53:21.599 --> 00:53:23.440 <v SPEAKER_02>I think I think you got it wrong. 00:53:23.519 --> 00:53:25.199 <v SPEAKER_01>I got it wrong a few times in my life, too. 00:53:25.519 --> 00:53:26.880 <v SPEAKER_02>We all have to recalibrate. 00:53:26.960 --> 00:53:28.880 <v SPEAKER_02>And look, we don't know what we got wrong. 00:53:29.119 --> 00:53:30.960 <v SPEAKER_02>I mean, we really this is only the beginning. 00:53:31.119 --> 00:53:34.639 <v SPEAKER_02>This is the beginning of a very important signal as they say it. 00:53:34.880 --> 00:53:35.840 <v SPEAKER_02>Let me be clear. 00:53:36.079 --> 00:53:42.480 <v SPEAKER_02>A retrospective study, this is not, doesn't have the beauty of a controlled study where you selected the individuals. 00:53:42.639 --> 00:53:49.280 <v SPEAKER_02>One you you select your placebo group, you're controlling, you try to match them up perfectly so you can have really good data. 00:53:49.440 --> 00:53:52.400 <v SPEAKER_02>A retrospective study is not of that caliber. 00:53:52.480 --> 00:53:53.599 <v SPEAKER_02>Everyone knows it. 00:53:53.920 --> 00:54:00.800 <v SPEAKER_02>But if you've skipped the the gold standard placebo study and now you say it's unethical to do it, you have to rely on this. 00:54:01.280 --> 00:54:04.320 <v SPEAKER_02>The gold standard study is now the retrospective study. 00:54:04.400 --> 00:54:05.280 <v SPEAKER_02>That's just the way it goes. 00:54:05.519 --> 00:54:14.239 <v SPEAKER_02>You can point out flaws that, you know, there was more African American kids in this group than in that group, or there was more premature births, you know. 00:54:14.400 --> 00:54:15.199 <v SPEAKER_02>Let's look at all that. 00:54:15.280 --> 00:54:16.159 <v SPEAKER_02>And that is what's happening. 00:54:16.239 --> 00:54:23.840 <v SPEAKER_02>There's a huge debate right now on, you know, what issues could you not necessarily control for in this study? 00:54:24.079 --> 00:54:26.320 <v SPEAKER_01>But um, but remember though, he looked at that. 00:54:26.480 --> 00:54:27.119 <v SPEAKER_01>He balanced it. 00:54:27.360 --> 00:54:29.280 <v SPEAKER_01>He did you know, so it wasn't like he just like read. 00:54:29.519 --> 00:54:32.800 <v SPEAKER_01>No, he made sure it was as balanced as it could possibly be. 00:54:33.199 --> 00:54:35.920 <v SPEAKER_02>Because you obviously have to imagine he's seeing things he doesn't like. 00:54:36.159 --> 00:54:36.639 <v SPEAKER_02>This guy doesn't see that. 00:54:36.800 --> 00:54:49.519 <v SPEAKER_02>So he's like, well, is it because we didn't shorter follow-up time or unvaccinated kids go to the doctors less, and they did these side tests on it, which they write about too, and it doesn't change the numbers. 00:54:49.679 --> 00:55:01.519 <v SPEAKER_02>And you know, one of my one of the you know, it's it this thing's being debated internationally, but there's a great scientist named uh Peter Gutcha, who was one of the founders of Cochrane, it was originally called the Cochrane Collaboration. 00:55:02.960 --> 00:55:06.480 <v SPEAKER_02>World-renowned scientists around the world just thought science has gone to hell. 00:55:06.880 --> 00:55:12.159 <v SPEAKER_02>These we know you can't reproduce the science, at least 50% of it's being published in medical journals. 00:55:12.320 --> 00:55:14.800 <v SPEAKER_02>So they they established the Cochrane science. 00:55:14.880 --> 00:55:14.960 <v SPEAKER_02>Yeah. 00:55:15.280 --> 00:55:18.159 <v SPEAKER_02>This is the this is what it would have to be to be called a Cochrane study. 00:55:18.719 --> 00:55:22.719 <v SPEAKER_01>They look if there's 3,000 studies, they'll say they look at the 3,000, they'll narrow it down to like 10. 00:55:22.880 --> 00:55:23.679 <v SPEAKER_02>These are the only ones you can trust. 00:55:24.000 --> 00:55:25.679 <v SPEAKER_01>At least 20 are like fit our study. 00:55:26.000 --> 00:55:26.719 <v SPEAKER_01>The rest should be burned. 00:55:26.800 --> 00:55:27.119 <v SPEAKER_01>Yeah, exactly. 00:55:27.920 --> 00:55:30.800 <v SPEAKER_01>And then they make an opinion based on these 10 20 studies. 00:55:31.280 --> 00:55:34.880 <v SPEAKER_02>So even Peter Gutcha weighed in on the Henry Ford study. 00:55:34.960 --> 00:55:46.320 <v SPEAKER_02>It was amazing when it popped up in my feed on X, and he essentially said, I saw Henry Ford's complaint, but confounding issues does not explain this result. 00:55:47.119 --> 00:55:49.199 <v SPEAKER_02>Um, it's so huge. 00:55:49.440 --> 00:55:50.639 <v SPEAKER_02>The difference is so huge. 00:55:50.719 --> 00:55:55.280 <v SPEAKER_02>You can't say, well, the African Americans, that didn't make up a big enough part of the control. 00:55:55.920 --> 00:55:56.239 <v SPEAKER_02>Take them out. 00:55:56.320 --> 00:55:57.760 <v SPEAKER_02>It's take this change. 00:55:58.639 --> 00:56:05.920 <v SPEAKER_02>And as he said, and and and by the way, we've I've tried to get him to look at the childhood vaccine program before, and people like them. 00:56:06.000 --> 00:56:07.760 <v SPEAKER_02>They're like, I'm not, it's ridiculous. 00:56:07.920 --> 00:56:10.079 <v SPEAKER_02>This is the greatest invention of the 20th century. 00:56:10.239 --> 00:56:12.400 <v SPEAKER_02>Vaccines have saved millions and millions of lives. 00:56:12.639 --> 00:56:24.800 <v SPEAKER_02>He's now saying, based on this Henry Ford study and the fact that there's other studies that are now seeing the same result, we have got to take a new look, a fresh look at the vaccine program. 00:56:25.119 --> 00:56:28.880 <v SPEAKER_02>We need to do larger studies like this with the biggest databases in the world now. 00:56:28.960 --> 00:56:30.079 <v SPEAKER_02>And that's what needs to happen. 00:56:30.320 --> 00:56:30.559 <v SPEAKER_02>Absolutely. 00:56:30.880 --> 00:56:35.280 <v SPEAKER_02>I'm not saying you see this study and go, oh my God, you know, take every vaccine away. 00:56:35.360 --> 00:56:39.039 <v SPEAKER_02>I'm saying do this study at a much larger scale. 00:56:39.199 --> 00:56:47.679 <v SPEAKER_02>If the CDC does this study now with, you know, I don't know how many millions of kids in America and you get the same result, then we really have a problem. 00:56:47.760 --> 00:56:48.880 <v SPEAKER_02>But then we got to drill down. 00:56:49.039 --> 00:56:56.000 <v SPEAKER_02>Is it just, is it just maybe a couple of these vaccines that are really super bad, but you never tested them, so we don't know. 00:56:56.079 --> 00:56:58.000 <v SPEAKER_02>And now you're taking them all at one time. 00:56:58.159 --> 00:56:59.440 <v SPEAKER_02>So how do you parse out? 00:56:59.519 --> 00:57:01.679 <v SPEAKER_02>How do you separate the bad ones from the good ones? 00:57:01.920 --> 00:57:03.039 <v SPEAKER_02>So much work that needs to be done. 00:57:03.440 --> 00:57:08.079 <v SPEAKER_01>And we can look at the way other countries do it, because a lot of countries don't stack them like we do it. 00:57:08.320 --> 00:57:12.320 <v SPEAKER_01>Then look at, you know, and then we can obviously compare our country, their country. 00:57:12.559 --> 00:57:13.519 <v SPEAKER_01>There's multiple ways of doing. 00:57:13.679 --> 00:57:20.320 <v SPEAKER_01>Now, with Bobby at the helm, I believe that the CDC could really actually pull this off and have a desire to pull this off. 00:57:20.480 --> 00:57:26.159 <v SPEAKER_01>Listen, all Bobby ever wanted was that we do double blind to seebo style use, right? 00:57:26.400 --> 00:57:28.000 <v SPEAKER_01>So I I want to hear your opinion. 00:57:28.079 --> 00:57:29.119 <v SPEAKER_01>Do you think that's going to happen? 00:57:29.280 --> 00:57:37.519 <v SPEAKER_01>And the second thing is a drug company could be sued if it there's injury and proven injury in a court of law, and it's the only drug that isn't that way. 00:57:37.760 --> 00:57:39.199 <v SPEAKER_01>So he wants to change those two things. 00:57:44.800 --> 00:57:48.800 <v SPEAKER_02>It also happens to be the only product that they allow you to not do safety studies on. 00:57:49.119 --> 00:57:50.639 <v SPEAKER_01>Oh, and by the way, those two things together are. 00:57:50.960 --> 00:57:59.440 <v SPEAKER_01>If you do a safety study, I heard that it actually makes them more liable because now there's actually something that's Yeah, if they hide something they know about, they're in trouble. 00:57:59.519 --> 00:58:01.039 <v SPEAKER_02>So they're better off to just not look for anything. 00:58:01.360 --> 00:58:01.519 <v SPEAKER_02>Right. 00:58:01.760 --> 00:58:02.639 <v SPEAKER_02>It's what? 00:58:03.119 --> 00:58:08.800 <v SPEAKER_02>And then on top of that, so it's the only product that you can't sue for, the only product that doesn't do a safety study. 00:58:08.960 --> 00:58:14.880 <v SPEAKER_02>Oh, and by the way, it's the only product you don't even have to pay for advertising because the government makes you take it. 00:58:16.159 --> 00:58:19.119 <v SPEAKER_02>I mean, the whole thing is just really big farmers built on it. 00:58:20.079 --> 00:58:20.880 <v SPEAKER_02>Think about that, folks. 00:58:21.119 --> 00:58:22.800 <v SPEAKER_02>It looks so shocking. 00:58:22.880 --> 00:58:27.679 <v SPEAKER_02>And so, but I would say this, and it's one of the things I try to end with in the movie. 00:58:27.920 --> 00:58:32.159 <v SPEAKER_02>Um there is a there is a silver lining to all of this. 00:58:32.559 --> 00:58:47.119 <v SPEAKER_02>There is this group of children in every time they do this study that are like thriving, that are just these brilliant beings of light, with in many cases, zero in categories, which was one of the shocking things. 00:58:47.280 --> 00:59:03.679 <v SPEAKER_02>They couldn't even come up with the statistic because there'd be hundreds in the vaccinated, but like zero in the unvaccinated, which means you at least need one to be able to do some math, but zero, like I think six or seven columns of serious issues where the unvaccinated aren't having any of it. 00:59:03.840 --> 00:59:04.239 <v SPEAKER_02>Yeah. 00:59:04.559 --> 00:59:17.119 <v SPEAKER_02>And so that I think is what while you wait to see if science rights the ship, if it can come to terms with itself and and admit, like why? 00:59:17.280 --> 00:59:20.719 <v SPEAKER_02>I mean, obviously they haven't published a study like this before. 00:59:20.880 --> 00:59:24.079 <v SPEAKER_02>In the decades, you know that they've been doing it, can't get it to work right. 00:59:24.159 --> 00:59:27.280 <v SPEAKER_02>So they haven't told you we have a problem, then we know we have a problem. 00:59:27.440 --> 00:59:31.360 <v SPEAKER_02>We're hiding the fact that every time we compare vaccine to unvaccinate, the vaccine is sicker. 00:59:31.440 --> 00:59:34.000 <v SPEAKER_02>Well, now the cat's out of the bag, and now it's out. 00:59:34.559 --> 00:59:38.480 <v SPEAKER_02>You know, what if can science write its ship? 00:59:38.639 --> 00:59:39.840 <v SPEAKER_02>Can it admit it was wrong? 00:59:40.000 --> 00:59:45.679 <v SPEAKER_02>Can our government say, oops, sorry for forcing to take that COVID vaccine to have your job? 00:59:45.920 --> 00:59:54.159 <v SPEAKER_02>Sorry you're having heart attacks now, sorry about the blood clots, sorry about the rise in cancer, which more and more we're seeing all the contamination of the COVID vaccine. 00:59:54.400 --> 00:59:58.960 <v SPEAKER_02>Uh oh, by the way, I guess you're gonna be able to sue us because we lied to you. 00:59:59.360 --> 01:00:00.639 <v SPEAKER_02>Do you realize how expensive that? 01:00:00.719 --> 01:00:02.960 <v SPEAKER_02>I mean, that this thing is so big now. 01:00:03.360 --> 01:00:03.920 <v SPEAKER_02>So big. 01:00:04.079 --> 01:00:05.360 <v SPEAKER_02>It's so big. 01:00:06.400 --> 01:00:12.000 <v SPEAKER_02>Millions and millions of people that are now sick because they did what their government told them to do. 01:00:12.239 --> 01:00:14.480 <v SPEAKER_02>So there's not an incentive for the government. 01:00:14.559 --> 01:00:17.039 <v SPEAKER_02>It's gonna stick with denial, denial, denial as long as it can. 01:00:17.119 --> 01:00:19.920 <v SPEAKER_02>Yes, Bobby is trying to get through the red tape. 01:00:20.000 --> 01:00:28.960 <v SPEAKER_02>He's trying to get the 50,000 people that are part of this corrupted system to do these studies, a vaccinated versus unvaccinated study. 01:00:29.119 --> 01:00:30.719 <v SPEAKER_02>If he has enough time, it's gonna take time. 01:00:30.880 --> 01:00:32.559 <v SPEAKER_02>I know, I believe he's gonna do it. 01:00:32.800 --> 01:00:38.400 <v SPEAKER_02>That's why I really feel good about this movie, is I want people to know why that study is so important. 01:00:38.559 --> 01:00:38.639 <v SPEAKER_02>Yeah. 01:00:38.800 --> 01:00:40.559 <v SPEAKER_02>That he's not just in there monkeying around. 01:00:40.639 --> 01:00:45.360 <v SPEAKER_02>And by the way, he's not gonna take a bunch of you know anti-vaccinists and say, run this study. 01:00:45.440 --> 01:00:50.880 <v SPEAKER_02>And I've just shown him, which I told him when I was running his, you know, as I was his director of communications when he ran for president. 01:00:51.039 --> 01:00:59.039 <v SPEAKER_02>Bobby, get the most pro-vaccine scientists involved to you know, write the protocol for that study. 01:00:59.119 --> 01:01:03.599 <v SPEAKER_02>So when it does come out, they don't go, well, I mean, look at the scientists you used. 01:01:04.400 --> 01:01:10.639 <v SPEAKER_02>So Henry Ford proves you can get the most biased scientists in the world on the side of vaccines. 01:01:10.800 --> 01:01:13.519 <v SPEAKER_02>This study, I think, is gonna keep coming out the same way. 01:01:13.679 --> 01:01:14.559 <v SPEAKER_02>And so it will. 01:01:14.800 --> 01:01:19.199 <v SPEAKER_02>Lastly, to parents that are making that choice, maybe they're pregnant at home right now. 01:01:19.360 --> 01:01:21.039 <v SPEAKER_02>All I can say is watch this film. 01:01:21.280 --> 01:01:22.159 <v SPEAKER_02>Oh, please share it. 01:01:22.239 --> 01:01:25.760 <v SPEAKER_02>I'm not gonna tell you what to do, but you have a huge decision to make. 01:01:26.079 --> 01:01:27.920 <v SPEAKER_01>But people still have a decision, Dell. 01:01:28.000 --> 01:01:30.719 <v SPEAKER_01>And and you know, you talked about that group, the good news group. 01:01:30.800 --> 01:01:32.880 <v SPEAKER_01>My kids are in that good news group, good health. 01:01:32.960 --> 01:01:36.480 <v SPEAKER_01>They don't have any of the problems that their other kids have, all the autoimmune, the allergy. 01:01:36.559 --> 01:01:37.440 <v SPEAKER_01>They don't have any of that. 01:01:37.599 --> 01:01:43.039 <v SPEAKER_01>It's like, but that's still a choice, but people still will say, Well, I have to do it because I have to do it. 01:01:43.199 --> 01:01:43.920 <v SPEAKER_01>It's mandated. 01:01:44.079 --> 01:01:44.960 <v SPEAKER_01>I can't get my kids. 01:01:45.440 --> 01:01:46.480 <v SPEAKER_01>Uh you know. 01:01:47.119 --> 01:01:51.119 <v SPEAKER_02>Well, then they need to donate to my nonprofit, uh the born consent action. 01:01:51.679 --> 01:01:56.719 <v SPEAKER_02>Go to iCandecide.org or the weekly talk show, thehighwire.com. 01:01:56.960 --> 01:02:03.280 <v SPEAKER_02>Uh, we fought and won back the religious exemption in Mississippi, the right to opt out of the vaccine program. 01:02:03.599 --> 01:02:06.320 <v SPEAKER_02>Mississippi didn't have it since the 1970s. 01:02:06.559 --> 01:02:07.920 <v SPEAKER_02>Took us three years in court. 01:02:08.000 --> 01:02:09.519 <v SPEAKER_02>We won back that right. 01:02:09.760 --> 01:02:11.360 <v SPEAKER_02>We are about to pull that off. 01:02:11.519 --> 01:02:15.840 <v SPEAKER_02>We need funding right now because we're fighting the same case in West Virginia. 01:02:16.000 --> 01:02:24.800 <v SPEAKER_02>Uh, I think we're it really looks good that we're gonna win and give you the right to opt out of the vaccine program, which means there will only be four states left after that. 01:02:25.039 --> 01:02:25.440 <v SPEAKER_02>Wow, that's the same thing. 01:02:25.599 --> 01:02:29.760 <v SPEAKER_02>Uh California, New York, uh, it just so happens the highest autism rates. 01:02:29.840 --> 01:02:29.920 <v SPEAKER_02>Okay. 01:02:30.000 --> 01:02:30.719 <v SPEAKER_02>Yeah, California. 01:02:31.280 --> 01:02:33.280 <v SPEAKER_01>New New York, Connecticut, Maine. 01:02:33.599 --> 01:02:34.719 <v SPEAKER_01>All the other states you can opt out. 01:02:35.039 --> 01:02:36.239 <v SPEAKER_02>All the other states you can opt out. 01:02:36.559 --> 01:02:37.039 <v SPEAKER_01>Did you hear that? 01:02:37.360 --> 01:02:39.840 <v SPEAKER_01>You still have a choice for your kids to be in that. 01:02:40.480 --> 01:02:42.719 <v SPEAKER_02>Your school won't tell you, but you just go online. 01:02:43.119 --> 01:02:53.280 <v SPEAKER_02>You can go to uh NVIC is a is a great website resource, tells you, you know, where you get that information, and um, you know, you can opt out. 01:02:53.599 --> 01:02:54.159 <v SPEAKER_01>Yeah, opt out. 01:02:54.239 --> 01:02:55.280 <v SPEAKER_01>And what was your site again? 01:02:56.239 --> 01:02:58.719 <v SPEAKER_02>Uh in uh I can decide. 01:02:58.880 --> 01:02:59.920 <v SPEAKER_02>You're allowed to decide. 01:03:00.079 --> 01:03:02.079 <v SPEAKER_02>I can decide.org. 01:03:02.239 --> 01:03:02.400 <v SPEAKER_02>Yeah. 01:03:02.559 --> 01:03:04.079 <v SPEAKER_02>And right at the top of the page, you can donate. 01:03:04.639 --> 01:03:08.320 <v SPEAKER_01>Well, you were a big part of Maha, still are in some respects, right? 01:03:08.400 --> 01:03:09.760 <v SPEAKER_01>But you're not running Maha either. 01:03:10.800 --> 01:03:12.960 <v SPEAKER_02>I started I launched Maha Action. 01:03:13.280 --> 01:03:13.679 <v SPEAKER_02>Yeah, you did. 01:03:14.000 --> 01:03:17.039 <v SPEAKER_02>I launched uh the Super PAC Maha Alliance. 01:03:17.280 --> 01:03:18.639 <v SPEAKER_01>I'm still a big part of Maha. 01:03:18.880 --> 01:03:20.400 <v SPEAKER_01>I believe so strongly in Bobby. 01:03:20.480 --> 01:03:21.920 <v SPEAKER_01>Uh he's a good friend of yours. 01:03:22.000 --> 01:03:23.039 <v SPEAKER_01>He's a friend of mine. 01:03:23.360 --> 01:03:26.079 <v SPEAKER_01>But um so what are you doing now uh with it? 01:03:26.239 --> 01:03:30.800 <v SPEAKER_01>And in step why stepping out, you had a lot of this film was maybe a part of that. 01:03:30.880 --> 01:03:35.519 <v SPEAKER_02>What yeah, I uh well I mean look, it was a long road with Bobby. 01:03:35.599 --> 01:03:39.840 <v SPEAKER_02>I was by his side for nearly three years as director of communications. 01:03:40.000 --> 01:03:46.719 <v SPEAKER_02>I launched the Maha PAX that I could run ads at the very end there when he joined President Trump. 01:03:46.880 --> 01:03:54.400 <v SPEAKER_02>We had a lot of liberal and independents that were supporting Bobby, and I wanted to convince them that Donald Trump was our way forward. 01:03:54.639 --> 01:03:57.760 <v SPEAKER_02>Uh so I wrote and made ads especially for that. 01:03:57.840 --> 01:04:04.400 <v SPEAKER_02>So that launched Maha and then Maha Action, the C4 to the outreach group to really help build that movement. 01:04:04.480 --> 01:04:05.599 <v SPEAKER_02>I was deeply involved in that. 01:04:05.760 --> 01:04:12.800 <v SPEAKER_02>But the truth is that um, you know, Bobby in inside of the government has got to dance. 01:04:12.960 --> 01:04:14.000 <v SPEAKER_02>He's got to dance, right? 01:04:14.639 --> 01:04:17.199 <v SPEAKER_02>He's on a high wire literally himself. 01:04:17.440 --> 01:04:17.679 <v SPEAKER_03>Yep. 01:04:18.079 --> 01:04:21.599 <v SPEAKER_02>And um and so he does, he has to do things that I don't always agree with. 01:04:21.679 --> 01:04:31.280 <v SPEAKER_02>You know, he's made some statements about measles vaccine that I think it's kind of like do or die, and he's trying to survive as long as he can to get the work he needs to done. 01:04:31.440 --> 01:04:34.159 <v SPEAKER_02>You know, he came out in favor of Ozepic this week. 01:04:34.239 --> 01:04:35.280 <v SPEAKER_02>I want to be able to do it. 01:04:35.360 --> 01:04:36.320 <v SPEAKER_02>I hate Ozempic, dude. 01:04:36.400 --> 01:04:38.239 <v SPEAKER_02>You know, I've done so many shows on Ozempic dead stage. 01:04:38.559 --> 01:04:39.599 <v SPEAKER_01>I I think it's poison. 01:04:39.679 --> 01:04:41.039 <v SPEAKER_01>I think the whole thing's gonna blow up. 01:04:41.199 --> 01:04:49.199 <v SPEAKER_02>I I know it is, I know it's I I I've been around him long enough to see, I know how you reasoned that, and I and I get the reasoning on it. 01:04:49.440 --> 01:04:54.559 <v SPEAKER_02>But as part of Maha, I had to like champion all of the thoughts. 01:04:54.639 --> 01:04:57.440 <v SPEAKER_02>Like it was really about like supporting Bobby in many ways. 01:04:57.599 --> 01:04:58.880 <v SPEAKER_02>And I love all the stuff in food. 01:04:58.960 --> 01:05:00.960 <v SPEAKER_02>I love what he's doing, Tylenol vaccines. 01:05:01.119 --> 01:05:04.239 <v SPEAKER_02>But but I felt like this isn't natural for me. 01:05:04.320 --> 01:05:06.960 <v SPEAKER_02>I'm I'm a truth, I call it like I see it. 01:05:07.119 --> 01:05:13.679 <v SPEAKER_02>And I found myself like not tweeting out about something I disagreed with, or you know, I was like, this isn't me. 01:05:13.920 --> 01:05:18.239 <v SPEAKER_02>And and I even said to Bobby, Bobby, I'm gonna step back to ICANN, the high wire. 01:05:18.400 --> 01:05:20.159 <v SPEAKER_02>I actually think I'm of better value to you. 01:05:20.239 --> 01:05:26.320 <v SPEAKER_02>When I can call you out when things aren't going right, so that people know I'm sincere when I am supporting. 01:05:26.639 --> 01:05:31.920 <v SPEAKER_01>You're just nobody you know, Bobby's built for that from the time he was a kid on it. 01:05:32.159 --> 01:05:32.639 <v SPEAKER_01>Yes, he is. 01:05:32.960 --> 01:05:33.679 <v SPEAKER_02>I'm not built for it. 01:05:34.000 --> 01:05:34.559 <v SPEAKER_02>I would suck at that. 01:05:35.199 --> 01:05:36.000 <v SPEAKER_02>I'd be fired so quickly. 01:05:36.320 --> 01:05:38.159 <v SPEAKER_02>You would just say fire so quickly. 01:05:38.400 --> 01:05:39.679 <v SPEAKER_01>You're you know, you're like my wife. 01:05:39.760 --> 01:05:43.679 <v SPEAKER_01>It's just like it's brain mouth because you believe it, and that's what makes you so you, right? 01:05:43.920 --> 01:05:45.599 <v SPEAKER_01>And it's like, but that's not great in politics, bro. 01:05:46.239 --> 01:05:49.840 <v SPEAKER_01>No, it's it's like you're not watering it down, and you're gonna say it's strong and hard. 01:05:50.079 --> 01:05:52.239 <v SPEAKER_01>And uh and and that, but that's what makes you great. 01:05:52.320 --> 01:05:53.599 <v SPEAKER_01>That's what makes high wire great. 01:05:53.760 --> 01:05:56.239 <v SPEAKER_01>That's what makes yeah, and and I I think it was smart. 01:05:56.320 --> 01:05:59.840 <v SPEAKER_01>I I think the little bit of separation there, I think it will do Bobby's mission better. 01:06:00.159 --> 01:06:00.400 <v SPEAKER_01>Better. 01:06:00.559 --> 01:06:02.159 <v SPEAKER_01>I think it will do this mission better. 01:06:02.320 --> 01:06:02.480 <v SPEAKER_01>Yeah. 01:06:02.719 --> 01:06:04.880 <v SPEAKER_01>And by the way, he gets it, right? 01:06:05.119 --> 01:06:05.440 <v SPEAKER_01>He knows. 01:06:05.760 --> 01:06:06.000 <v SPEAKER_01>Oh no. 01:06:06.480 --> 01:06:08.559 <v SPEAKER_02>He knows we're pissed off when he has to say whatever. 01:06:08.639 --> 01:06:09.599 <v SPEAKER_02>He's like, just hang in there. 01:06:09.760 --> 01:06:10.159 <v SPEAKER_02>Yeah, he knows. 01:06:10.320 --> 01:06:10.880 <v SPEAKER_02>I'm working it. 01:06:10.960 --> 01:06:11.519 <v SPEAKER_02>I'm working it. 01:06:12.079 --> 01:06:17.599 <v SPEAKER_02>And I like to tell people, look, just because I'm frustrated with, you know, this week, we'll probably talk about Azempic on the show. 01:06:18.320 --> 01:06:22.559 <v SPEAKER_02>But, you know, I'll still say, you know, here's the reasoning I'm sure he's had. 01:06:22.639 --> 01:06:24.480 <v SPEAKER_02>I know how he reasons things. 01:06:24.639 --> 01:06:29.199 <v SPEAKER_02>And he and but here's the other things he's doing to just keep this movement focused, right? 01:06:29.280 --> 01:06:32.559 <v SPEAKER_02>We have a way of like turning on ourselves, getting frustrated. 01:06:32.800 --> 01:06:35.280 <v SPEAKER_02>This is a huge, huge deal that he's there. 01:06:35.360 --> 01:06:36.880 <v SPEAKER_02>It's an absolute miracle. 01:06:37.199 --> 01:06:38.719 <v SPEAKER_02>Yeah, it's a miracle that he's got to be. 01:06:40.559 --> 01:06:46.880 <v SPEAKER_02>But already he's achieved more than every HHS secretary combined in my lifetime. 01:06:47.199 --> 01:06:51.039 <v SPEAKER_02>But we're still waiting for the big one the vaxxed versus unvaccinated study. 01:06:51.119 --> 01:06:53.599 <v SPEAKER_02>But that's why it's important to get this filmed to everybody. 01:06:53.679 --> 01:07:05.760 <v SPEAKER_02>So when this conversation becomes more public, when we start hearing that they're getting close, for this study's coming, that you know how to talk about it, you know how to explain it, you know how to enroll people in saying, hey, we should all want this study. 01:07:05.840 --> 01:07:07.599 <v SPEAKER_02>This isn't trying to take things away. 01:07:07.760 --> 01:07:11.039 <v SPEAKER_02>This is trying to find out why our kids are so sick. 01:07:11.119 --> 01:07:13.679 <v SPEAKER_02>And making this move is different than Vaxxed. 01:07:13.840 --> 01:07:17.760 <v SPEAKER_02>Vaxxed, I had to show you movies about autism because it was rare. 01:07:17.920 --> 01:07:20.480 <v SPEAKER_02>And this is probably in your house. 01:07:20.719 --> 01:07:20.960 <v SPEAKER_02>Yeah. 01:07:21.039 --> 01:07:21.119 <v SPEAKER_02>Yeah. 01:07:21.360 --> 01:07:26.880 <v SPEAKER_02>I mean, one in two kids or or or worse, one of your kids has got eczema, one of them has asthma. 01:07:27.199 --> 01:07:28.000 <v SPEAKER_02>Who are these issues? 01:07:28.480 --> 01:07:33.039 <v SPEAKER_01>People that get upset at you or us or Bobby, you know, anti-vaxxers. 01:07:33.599 --> 01:07:34.320 <v SPEAKER_01>Who are they? 01:07:34.559 --> 01:07:40.239 <v SPEAKER_02>You know, I just I got I got I was in an interview that felt a little bit like a setup the other day. 01:07:40.400 --> 01:07:44.880 <v SPEAKER_02>Um they were like, oh no, we're Maha, and then all of a sudden they're like, you're gonna take my vaccine away. 01:07:44.960 --> 01:07:46.480 <v SPEAKER_02>I was like, whoa, whoa, hold on a second. 01:07:46.639 --> 01:07:49.920 <v SPEAKER_02>Okay, this is a different interview than I was expecting, but I love interviews like this. 01:07:50.000 --> 01:07:51.039 <v SPEAKER_02>It's like I'm not taking any vaccines. 01:07:51.360 --> 01:07:52.159 <v SPEAKER_01>No, you can handle yourself. 01:07:52.320 --> 01:07:54.239 <v SPEAKER_02>I'm not taking them away, and neither is Bobby. 01:07:54.400 --> 01:08:02.480 <v SPEAKER_02>You can't conflate my desire to first of all know the safety profile of them, and second of all, to be able to say, I want informed consent. 01:08:02.639 --> 01:08:08.800 <v SPEAKER_02>You already have a list of side effects that are wrapped around every vaccine that the doctor is not telling the patients about. 01:08:09.039 --> 01:08:10.800 <v SPEAKER_02>You're they have to do it with drugs. 01:08:10.960 --> 01:08:13.599 <v SPEAKER_02>I don't think it's right that they're not doing it with vaccines. 01:08:13.760 --> 01:08:14.559 <v SPEAKER_02>It's that simple. 01:08:14.719 --> 01:08:17.600 <v SPEAKER_02>Once you're informed, it's like, my kids are perfectly healthy. 01:08:17.680 --> 01:08:18.720 <v SPEAKER_02>I want to keep getting vaccines. 01:08:18.800 --> 01:08:20.640 <v SPEAKER_02>I said, look, I'll take it a step further. 01:08:20.880 --> 01:08:25.039 <v SPEAKER_02>If you love vaccines, I'll fight for your freedom to give your kids vaccines. 01:08:25.600 --> 01:08:27.600 <v SPEAKER_02>I am all about your constitutional rights. 01:08:27.760 --> 01:08:28.479 <v SPEAKER_02>It's a free country. 01:08:28.640 --> 01:08:28.880 <v SPEAKER_02>Absolutely. 01:08:29.279 --> 01:08:32.960 <v SPEAKER_02>You raise your kids the way you see fit, I'll raise my kids the way I see fit. 01:08:33.039 --> 01:08:33.439 <v SPEAKER_02>That's America. 01:08:33.680 --> 01:08:43.199 <v SPEAKER_02>I'll read the science I want to read, you read the science you want to read, but let's let leave each other alone because we're all gonna come up with different answers, and our diversity is what makes us great. 01:08:43.359 --> 01:08:45.039 <v SPEAKER_02>But I'll take it a step further, I said to her. 01:08:45.439 --> 01:08:52.640 <v SPEAKER_02>So I'm so not gonna take your vaccines away that if you really want a vaccine, bring it over here and I'll stick that thing in your ass for you. 01:08:52.720 --> 01:08:52.880 <v SPEAKER_02>Yeah. 01:08:53.039 --> 01:08:57.119 <v SPEAKER_02>Like I don't like, it's not, this isn't about how I'm not trying to run your life. 01:08:57.359 --> 01:09:00.640 <v SPEAKER_02>What I'm saying is this thing has way overstepped its bounds. 01:09:00.800 --> 01:09:03.359 <v SPEAKER_02>It's the only product that is forced on us. 01:09:03.680 --> 01:09:06.159 <v SPEAKER_01>Yes, but it's the COVID uh argument. 01:09:06.319 --> 01:09:09.920 <v SPEAKER_01>But your kids, non-vaccinate kids, are a threat to my kids. 01:09:10.079 --> 01:09:13.840 <v SPEAKER_01>That's the straw man that they set up and make you perhaps feel guilty. 01:09:14.000 --> 01:09:14.560 <v SPEAKER_01>That's what they say. 01:09:14.880 --> 01:09:15.600 <v SPEAKER_02>That's what they try to say. 01:09:15.840 --> 01:09:16.479 <v SPEAKER_01>That's what they try to say. 01:09:16.800 --> 01:09:24.560 <v SPEAKER_02>I remember when I my with my high school um principal wouldn't let me in, and my mom was saying, and that was she would she would always bring me to little battles, kind of who I am. 01:09:24.720 --> 01:09:28.319 <v SPEAKER_02>My mom loved to say, This is what you're gonna have to do when you grow up. 01:09:28.399 --> 01:09:31.840 <v SPEAKER_02>And I remember the principal saying you have to be vaccinated to be in this school. 01:09:32.079 --> 01:09:33.199 <v SPEAKER_02>My mom said, No, you don't. 01:09:33.439 --> 01:09:36.239 <v SPEAKER_02>Colorado has a religious and a personal belief exemption. 01:09:36.399 --> 01:09:37.920 <v SPEAKER_02>He's like, but everyone else is vaccinated. 01:09:38.000 --> 01:09:39.439 <v SPEAKER_02>She's like, look, do you believe in vaccines? 01:09:39.600 --> 01:09:40.159 <v SPEAKER_02>He's like, Yeah. 01:09:40.319 --> 01:09:40.960 <v SPEAKER_02>You believe they work? 01:09:41.119 --> 01:09:41.359 <v SPEAKER_02>Yes. 01:09:42.239 --> 01:09:43.359 <v SPEAKER_02>Every kid's already gotten one here? 01:09:43.520 --> 01:09:43.760 <v SPEAKER_02>Yes. 01:09:43.920 --> 01:09:45.439 <v SPEAKER_02>All right, then what is my kid? 01:09:45.520 --> 01:09:47.680 <v SPEAKER_02>How can my kid put them at risk if they work? 01:09:47.920 --> 01:09:49.680 <v SPEAKER_01>He's like, man, think of that. 01:09:49.760 --> 01:09:52.319 <v SPEAKER_01>Oh, that's where that straw man doesn't hold up, right? 01:09:52.399 --> 01:09:53.279 <v SPEAKER_01>Because that's the reality. 01:09:53.439 --> 01:09:56.159 <v SPEAKER_01>If your vaccines work, we want people to have the choice. 01:09:56.239 --> 01:09:57.920 <v SPEAKER_01>I that's the point, right? 01:09:58.079 --> 01:10:08.000 <v SPEAKER_01>It's like if you can have if you talk about things, if we're able to debate things, it will get further to truth, and then we can make a choice based on the truth. 01:10:08.239 --> 01:10:10.800 <v SPEAKER_01>Unvaccinated kids are not a threat to vaccinated kids. 01:10:10.960 --> 01:10:13.279 <v SPEAKER_01>Bottom line, COVID was a lie there. 01:10:13.359 --> 01:10:14.319 <v SPEAKER_01>And you know, everything. 01:10:14.720 --> 01:10:19.920 <v SPEAKER_02>And by the way, they're the strong the reason we have herd immunity is not because the vaccine program is the baby boomers. 01:10:20.079 --> 01:10:25.680 <v SPEAKER_02>I mean, I could do a whole topic on that, but we're about to lose the only generation that still has true herd immunity. 01:10:25.920 --> 01:10:34.960 <v SPEAKER_02>They don't need boosted, they have lifelong immunity because they had all of these childhood illnesses and they have been a foundation keeping us protected. 01:10:35.039 --> 01:10:38.000 <v SPEAKER_02>Now vaccines are wearing off, even measles vaccine. 01:10:38.079 --> 01:10:41.680 <v SPEAKER_02>They want to give two or three more now that you're an adult because they just don't last. 01:10:41.920 --> 01:10:42.399 <v SPEAKER_02>They just don't work. 01:10:42.800 --> 01:10:53.600 <v SPEAKER_01>But then here's the problem is as an adult gets you know the chicken pox fire, the adult gets that, and then it becomes a a deadly argument because they say, Well, look, see, this is what we're trying to protect against. 01:10:53.760 --> 01:10:55.039 <v SPEAKER_01>Look at all these people that are sick. 01:10:55.199 --> 01:10:55.359 <v SPEAKER_01>Yeah. 01:10:55.520 --> 01:10:57.600 <v SPEAKER_01>Well, because they don't have natural immunity. 01:10:57.760 --> 01:10:58.079 <v SPEAKER_01>That's why. 01:10:58.319 --> 01:10:58.640 <v SPEAKER_01>It's true. 01:10:58.800 --> 01:11:00.159 <v SPEAKER_01>Yeah, it's true. 01:11:00.880 --> 01:11:06.000 <v SPEAKER_01>Man, you know, this is uh an emotional topic, but you know, people need to hear this. 01:11:06.319 --> 01:11:07.439 <v SPEAKER_01>People need to hear the truth. 01:11:07.600 --> 01:11:13.199 <v SPEAKER_01>That's why, you know, I want thank you for coming on because I and listen, everybody needs. 01:11:13.359 --> 01:11:17.279 <v SPEAKER_01>If you have a social media following, please put the link. 01:11:17.439 --> 01:11:18.239 <v SPEAKER_01>It's free. 01:11:18.399 --> 01:11:22.560 <v SPEAKER_01>It's in in an inconvenience study.com. 01:11:22.800 --> 01:11:23.119 <v SPEAKER_01>That's it. 01:11:23.279 --> 01:11:23.680 <v SPEAKER_01>That's it. 01:11:23.760 --> 01:11:24.239 <v SPEAKER_01>And it's free. 01:11:24.479 --> 01:11:25.039 <v SPEAKER_01>They can have it. 01:11:25.279 --> 01:11:26.640 <v SPEAKER_01>Share it with everyone you know. 01:11:26.800 --> 01:11:30.960 <v SPEAKER_01>Everybody and people that believe in vaccines, don't believe in vaccines, watch it. 01:11:31.039 --> 01:11:31.600 <v SPEAKER_01>It doesn't matter. 01:11:32.000 --> 01:11:32.960 <v SPEAKER_01>Just say hey, dig into this. 01:11:33.199 --> 01:11:34.159 <v SPEAKER_02>Watch it, let's have a debate. 01:11:34.239 --> 01:11:36.479 <v SPEAKER_02>Let's let's go out and grab a beer and let's debate this thing. 01:11:36.720 --> 01:11:39.600 <v SPEAKER_02>I mean, this is a very, very interesting topic. 01:11:39.760 --> 01:11:46.479 <v SPEAKER_02>And if if you're afraid to even mention it, that should make you even more inspired. 01:11:46.640 --> 01:11:55.279 <v SPEAKER_02>There should be no topic in a country like the United States of America where we're afraid to speak the truth, where we're afraid to have a debate. 01:11:55.520 --> 01:11:59.920 <v SPEAKER_02>If if we give up on having that debate, then we have let go of the dream of this nation. 01:12:00.239 --> 01:12:02.640 <v SPEAKER_02>This nation demands that we be vigilant. 01:12:02.960 --> 01:12:08.479 <v SPEAKER_02>It allows that every human being and every industry is capable of making mistakes and we write our mistakes. 01:12:08.800 --> 01:12:11.279 <v SPEAKER_02>You cannot fix a mistake if you're not allowed to talk about it. 01:12:11.760 --> 01:12:12.960 <v SPEAKER_01>Charlie lost his life for it. 01:12:13.279 --> 01:12:13.520 <v SPEAKER_02>Yeah. 01:12:13.680 --> 01:12:15.920 <v SPEAKER_02>And you know, absolutely. 01:12:16.239 --> 01:12:18.079 <v SPEAKER_02>Uh that was he was a good friend. 01:12:18.159 --> 01:12:24.640 <v SPEAKER_02>I I got to work closely with him uh near the end of the campaign, and uh and I know he would do it all over again. 01:12:24.800 --> 01:12:27.439 <v SPEAKER_02>I mean, look at the impact telling the truth has had. 01:12:27.600 --> 01:12:29.279 <v SPEAKER_02>I mean, Charlie's lived a thousand lives. 01:12:29.439 --> 01:12:29.600 <v SPEAKER_02>Yeah. 01:12:29.840 --> 01:12:31.279 <v SPEAKER_02>Uh most of us that live in closets. 01:12:32.000 --> 01:12:40.800 <v SPEAKER_01>He's gonna change more lies, I hate to say it, but he's gonna change more lives now than he would before, and God had purpose in it and allowed it for that very reason. 01:12:40.960 --> 01:12:41.199 <v SPEAKER_01>Yeah. 01:12:41.439 --> 01:12:43.760 <v SPEAKER_01>Because man, he's coming against the enemy. 01:12:43.840 --> 01:12:49.119 <v SPEAKER_01>He's ushering in the greatest revival, especially in young people, in human history. 01:12:49.279 --> 01:12:50.159 <v SPEAKER_01>That's the reality. 01:12:50.399 --> 01:12:53.119 <v SPEAKER_02>So the enemy will not win on this topic either. 01:12:53.600 --> 01:12:55.920 <v SPEAKER_02>This is a very exciting time to be alive. 01:12:56.399 --> 01:12:59.439 <v SPEAKER_02>And we've been we took our eye off the ball. 01:12:59.520 --> 01:13:04.560 <v SPEAKER_02>We let corruption take over in all parts of our government, in all parts of our lives. 01:13:05.119 --> 01:13:19.199 <v SPEAKER_02>And you know, what I would say to everyone out there is I remember when I was sitting in the history classes and you'd read about George Washington, about the you know, cross a freezing cold river, and half of his crew have got, you know, gangrene or smallpox. 01:13:19.520 --> 01:13:26.000 <v SPEAKER_02>And he's like, if we can get across this river and we can defeat this army here tonight, this we will shift the course of this war. 01:13:26.239 --> 01:13:34.800 <v SPEAKER_02>And you imagine and you I remember being like a little bit envious, like there'll be nothing in my lifetime that will be like the founding of a nation or the you know what I mean. 01:13:34.880 --> 01:13:48.560 <v SPEAKER_02>It's almost like we missed that exciting moment to be live, and then this happened, and then COVID happened where everything those founding fathers fought for almost disappeared overnight, and they are now trying to censor us. 01:13:48.640 --> 01:13:54.880 <v SPEAKER_02>They're censoring all of Europe, England, they're arresting people for ex posts, just stating their opinion. 01:13:55.119 --> 01:13:57.680 <v SPEAKER_02>The entire world is under assault by authoritarianism. 01:13:57.840 --> 01:13:58.640 <v SPEAKER_02>It's a red flag, man. 01:13:58.880 --> 01:14:05.279 <v SPEAKER_02>It's such a red flag, and it is slamming on the waves of our shores right now, and we are needed more than ever. 01:14:05.520 --> 01:14:16.479 <v SPEAKER_02>And this country and this constitution and what we represent has never been under a greater threat and so close to being destroyed and taken from us. 01:14:16.720 --> 01:14:17.920 <v SPEAKER_02>We live in that moment. 01:14:18.079 --> 01:14:30.800 <v SPEAKER_02>We live in this moment, and for everyone all around the world, because I know you're watching the show in Australia and New Zealand and Germany, it is time to rise up as the citizens of this world and stand up for body sovereignty. 01:14:30.960 --> 01:14:38.560 <v SPEAKER_02>If I do not control what is injected into my body and the bodies of my children, I am definitely not a free citizen. 01:14:38.640 --> 01:14:40.319 <v SPEAKER_02>I have no rights as a human being. 01:14:40.560 --> 01:14:43.920 <v SPEAKER_02>I now share the same rights as farm animals. 01:14:44.720 --> 01:14:46.720 <v SPEAKER_02>And that cannot be. 01:14:46.960 --> 01:14:48.239 <v SPEAKER_02>We cannot allow that to be. 01:14:48.720 --> 01:14:52.239 <v SPEAKER_01>You know, we're fighting, and it doesn't matter what side you're on. 01:14:52.640 --> 01:14:58.239 <v SPEAKER_01>If we keep the ability to argue our points, we'll get to truth, further truth. 01:14:58.319 --> 01:15:03.920 <v SPEAKER_01>It's when you take that ability away, is when you end up in a communist society. 01:15:04.079 --> 01:15:04.960 <v SPEAKER_01>And that's where we're headed. 01:15:05.119 --> 01:15:06.479 <v SPEAKER_01>Unless you're really close. 01:15:06.800 --> 01:15:07.920 <v SPEAKER_01>Unless we stand up. 01:15:08.159 --> 01:15:09.760 <v SPEAKER_01>Because we have to have the debate. 01:15:10.000 --> 01:15:11.920 <v SPEAKER_01>We have to be able to have the debate, man. 01:15:12.159 --> 01:15:12.479 <v SPEAKER_01>Yeah. 01:15:12.640 --> 01:15:15.600 <v SPEAKER_01>The truth will come if we have the debate. 01:15:15.920 --> 01:15:19.439 <v SPEAKER_01>But if we take the debate away, then it we're we're we're done, man. 01:15:19.760 --> 01:15:19.920 <v SPEAKER_02>Done. 01:15:20.000 --> 01:15:20.560 <v SPEAKER_02>Yeah, we're done. 01:15:20.800 --> 01:15:22.880 <v SPEAKER_02>And once you give up your freedom, you never get it done. 01:15:23.119 --> 01:15:28.079 <v SPEAKER_01>I have to say this, you know, I've known him a long time, and he wasn't always the conservative he is now. 01:15:28.319 --> 01:15:28.560 <v SPEAKER_01>He wasn't. 01:15:28.720 --> 01:15:29.520 <v SPEAKER_01>But that's our point. 01:15:29.600 --> 01:15:36.239 <v SPEAKER_01>Because Bobby, I remember I was at a dinner with you and Bobby, and I'm thinking to myself, y'all are conservatives, man. 01:15:36.399 --> 01:15:38.319 <v SPEAKER_01>It's like, but y'all didn't want to admit that then. 01:15:38.880 --> 01:15:42.640 <v SPEAKER_01>But because see, there was a time where it was so close, right? 01:15:42.720 --> 01:15:45.600 <v SPEAKER_01>And, you know, you might have had social views, this view. 01:15:45.760 --> 01:15:48.159 <v SPEAKER_01>It's like, but now, man, it's it's different. 01:15:48.479 --> 01:15:49.039 <v SPEAKER_02>It's different. 01:15:49.199 --> 01:15:49.600 <v SPEAKER_01>Yeah. 01:15:49.840 --> 01:15:50.479 <v SPEAKER_01>It's different. 01:15:50.720 --> 01:15:51.680 <v SPEAKER_01>It's different. 01:15:51.920 --> 01:15:52.319 <v SPEAKER_02>Yeah. 01:15:52.640 --> 01:15:53.760 <v SPEAKER_01>Well, there you have it. 01:15:53.840 --> 01:15:55.199 <v SPEAKER_01>Uh you got to share it. 01:15:55.359 --> 01:15:55.760 <v SPEAKER_01>You do. 01:15:55.920 --> 01:15:56.640 <v SPEAKER_01>This is important. 01:15:56.800 --> 01:15:57.840 <v SPEAKER_01>This is about freedom. 01:15:58.000 --> 01:15:59.279 <v SPEAKER_01>This is about medical freedom. 01:15:59.359 --> 01:16:00.319 <v SPEAKER_01>This is about our children. 01:16:00.479 --> 01:16:02.079 <v SPEAKER_01>This is about the next generation. 01:16:02.239 --> 01:16:06.079 <v SPEAKER_01>This is about everything that matters right here, right? 01:16:06.239 --> 01:16:14.800 <v SPEAKER_01>It is as important as George Washington saying, man, if we can just fight a little longer, you know, despite how we feel, it could change this country. 01:16:14.880 --> 01:16:16.720 <v SPEAKER_01>And I believe that's a great analogy, man. 01:16:16.880 --> 01:16:18.880 <v SPEAKER_01>So let's fight, but we got to fight together. 01:16:18.960 --> 01:16:23.119 <v SPEAKER_01>So share uh every bit of that link right now, every bit of it. 01:16:23.359 --> 01:16:25.600 <v SPEAKER_01>And inconvenience study.com. 01:16:25.680 --> 01:16:26.159 <v SPEAKER_01>Share it. 01:16:27.039 --> 01:16:27.439 <v unknown>Thank you.