Bo Jackson On Being The Greatest Athlete Of All Time + His Prostate Cancer Story | Bussin'

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Speaker 1: Hello, Hello, Hello, this.

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Speaker 2: Camera guy didn't clap. It's okay, I'll just give them hard time. But hey, he sounds like you've been through the ringer a little bit. You walked in here. You're second day, second day, non stop, NonStop all day. What is what has been on your schedule the last few days?

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Speaker 3: And if you don't mind, what has been on my schedule? If you look at my hat that BK. Yeah, hell no, what needed if you pay me? This is bo Knows Men's heel. You're starting on pod with Yeah, I'm sorry, my own podcast, and ninety percent of the country would say, alway, it's going to be another sports podcast. Nah, been there, done that, know how to do that? This is on mentel for the simple reason, and I say this, you guys are young, but I'll give you four or five years from now, you're going to be going to get your prostate chair and doing all this and so and so on, and it's going to get to the point to where you're up three four times a night, going to take a leak. That's what happens when you get on Yeah. So that's what you got for it. That's what you've got to look forward to Me myself, I want to use my platform, my name, my report, my recognition to promote both knows men's helf because what we do as men, Well, I'm gonna ask you this question, and that's for both of you. What's the first thing come to your mind? If your doctor come out and told you you got proseate cancer, how much time do I have lost?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Probably one or he says that you're in the beginning stages of prosec cancer. It's not but it's not bad, but you have to have you gotta have your prose taken out, and then you research it and look at everything. And the thing that you do well probably genetics because you go back and look at your great grandfather, your grandfather, your dad, your uncle's find out that find out like that. But the thing about it, most men think, show you how small our minds are. As men. We're all like this. We all have this fault is that the doctor come and tell you, hey, you're in the beginning stage of process cans. You can either treat it or take it out. Most guys, without thinking it's going to say, let's try to treat it, because if you know what your prostate do, it controls everything that you do as far as sex, everything sperm produced all of that erections. And so for the song, so we're gonna think, oh shit, that goes my sex life. That goes my sex life. I'll be on d drugs for the rest of my life. That's how the small part of our mind thinks. And so instead of thinking like this, I need to get that taken out so I can spend time with my family, with my kids. I want to be around so I can hear the worry Papa. I want to go to Papa's house, Papa wanna takes me fishing, and so forth and so on. Well, I'm at that stage, not only that colon cancer probably say cancer reunting my family. So I was going to get it regardless of how many football football games I played, how many touchdowns, how many home runs I here, period. But we as men, we never talk about that. Well, in the last time you sit around with your guys after either hunting or fishing or golfing and say, man, you know, last night, should I was up four or five times pissed because my prostate won't let me sleep we don't talk about that.

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Speaker 4: Or if you did it, we're sitting here laughing, joking.

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Speaker 3: Because you don't take it serious, right, But if you're serious about it, and so we don't talk about it because we don't want our buddies or the public to look at us as not being strong or we got a cheek in our arm and we're not that alpham mail that every everybody preceivees me as because we're weak. That's not the that's not the case. If you ask your girlfriends, your wives, your your your mom's aunts, they go to lunch in order wine and dip and talk about all their issues. They talk about breast cancer, they talk about incontinence, they talk about menopause, they talk about everything. But we, as men, we don't talk about that because it's taboo. I want to use my platform to peel the layers off of that, off of off of that onion, so we can talk about it. I want to set up my podcast to where I could take it on the road and travel and go into different cities. Get one of my buddies that I played with or played against, either in the NFL or the Major League Baseball, have them to get his personal doctor get your cardiologists, your gaserineologists, get your who else, your orthopedic surge, get all your doctors, your urologists, proctologists sitting on the stage with you, and tell them, look, we're going to have you here to talk to this crowd of men, to talk to this big audience. And what we want from you. We will advertise you and your business and your clinic or your hospital. But what you got to give us is that you got You got to help take care of these gentlemen out here who can't afford to pay for a PSA test because somebody may not have the insurance that we have. We got to get the audience to attend, and if they attend, it'll cost them from anywhere from one to ten bucks, no more than that, and that money stays in a fund for that area to help pay for their p say, to help pay for their colonosopies, and make and make it easier for guys to sit around and talk instead of just talking about the football game and talk about this. Let's take a page from the women's book, their playbook. Let's let's sit down and go to dinner and talk about our problem. How many times have you watched TV, or you're on your computer and an ED commercial comes up damn near every time you turn it on, right, But we don't talk about that. I have my prostate taken out in October.

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Speaker 4: This past October.

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Speaker 3: This past October, I had my prostate taking up. I never once set up and said, oh no, I don't want to do it. God, it's gonna ruin my sex life. It's gonna do this or do that. The first thing I thought about was my family, wife, kids, grandkids. Why should I be selfish and cheat them out of the future. I said, get that taken out, Get it out of me, so I won't be looking over my shoulder. Because if you decide to treat it with radiation, there's a ninety nine percent chance that it's starting to come back. It may not come back within one or two years, but five six years down the road, it's gonna read its head again. And when it does, it's gonna have gone from your prostate to your bones, your bones, to your lungs, liver, then to your brain and that's over. And so I buried my brother in law just two weeks ago because it happened in that order.

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Speaker 2: Really, yeah, So it's interesting my prostate as well too, because like it seemed like it's like minut of forty. Right, that's when you get your the prostate exam. They get the two fingers up there and they do the whole.

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Speaker 3: Two fingers get get the PSA test done where they draw blood and that's real what and that's the and that's the real real way to check your PSA. Go get the blood working on and they send it off and then they combine your your numbers from your PSA test with what they call your glease On score. Okay, now I don't know what the hell the Gleason score is because I'm not totally fair, but it combines both of them, and if it's in the high six or seven or above, you need to get something done.

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Speaker 2: Get something figured out.

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Speaker 1: He gets something.

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Speaker 2: It's so interesting because like the prostate is something like he's thirty six, I'm thirty four, and they're like it's it's forty, right. Is that when they say you should get your.

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Speaker 1: Products, they say forty But.

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Speaker 3: If if it runs in your family, yeah, you probably need to get it checked bed for forty, Well, you just to be on the safe side.

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Speaker 2: That's the thing that's going on right now, is it seems like rates in younger men are having prostate issues sooner or than stage of forty. And so we sit here, we hear the number of forty forty forty kind of wait till then. I had a guy that I put with in high school and in college, and he was the healthiest one of all of us. He passed away a couple of years ago because of prostate cancer.

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Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: The same ages, same age, missus. Like what thirty two.

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Speaker 1: At the time.

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Speaker 3: Check out this. When I was twenty years old, I'm in the prime of my life. I could whoop King Kong's.

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Speaker 4: Ass, buddy.

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Speaker 2: I was watching a film before and.

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Speaker 1: The thing about it.

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Speaker 3: I woke up one morning, went to the bathroom and used the bathroom, end up getting ready for class. This on a Friday. We had a game on Saturday. I get up, go to the bathroom, get up to flush the stowt this blood in the stool. Oh shit, scared the hell out of me. Go tell the trainer, Tell the head training. He said, all right, well, I'm gonna call the doctor. We're gonna hit up something, and you're all right now, we're gonna play the game tomorrow. After the game tomorrow, But I'm gonna give you this package. This is matter's not want you to mix it with a gallon of water and drink it and drink it all and give me two gallons. You can't have anything to eat after noon. So from now and on, I'd start myself and drink this crappy stuff. And it flushed me out, blew the toilet up from four o'clock that evening till the next morning when I went to the doctor. Yeah, I got liquid, clear liquid coming out of me. Go and they do my first coldnts, they find apollop. That was benign. And if you know the story behind Chadwick Bozeman, the Black Panther actor, he passed away at forty three from colon cancer. Nobody knew he kept us secretating to pass away from colon cancer. So if I had it ignored, like we all do as young young guys who think we that that we are invincible, we know everything. If I just said, oh, that's probably nothing, so I'm not gonna buy, I wouldn't be here right now. And since then, I guarantee to you that I've had at least fifteen cold enough. I just had one last month, and I get one because I'm sixty three.

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Speaker 1: I get one every three years.

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Speaker 3: Really, because in ten years you can grow a camel up inside of you and don't even know it. Even so, that's why I'm using my That's why I'm using my platform to help educate men, because we do women educate each other because they sit down and talk about it. We don't do that because we're too narrow minded and we're thinking, Oh, I don't want somebody talking about about me or laughing at me. I don't want friends talking about me, or oh I can't get it up. Trust me, guys, I'm talking from proof. I've been down that road. Because the first thing guys think is that there goes my sex life. I can't get a heart on anymore. They got shit out there now that'll make VIGR look like a chump. And to think about it. And I say that in a laughing matter, But that shouldn't be the first thing you think about, or the second or third.

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Speaker 1: It should be. For me, it was I have.

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Speaker 3: A four year old grandson and a two year old grandson and it's the best gift God it's ever given me. And I want to be around and watch him play in the first litle league baseball, their soccer. They're tack on do classes. That's what I want to be around for. My grandson just hit me a picture yesterday day. He got an acceptance letter. Now he's four. He got an acceptance letter to go to kindergarten at the big school where all the big kids go. And he and he's happy like he just got a full ride at Harvard or somewhere.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but that's what makes me happy now. Sports.

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Speaker 3: I have an attended a football game or Super Bowl since Troy Aikman and the Dallas Cowboys won their second Super Bowl with Troy. And the only reason I'm here is to get this out to the public because I figured, Hey, there's no better time than to do this now, because the Super Bowl, everybody watch it, but hell, nine percent of the viewers are men, right, and this is a good time to let the country know that, hey, it's okay to talk about this. Don't sit up and keep it balled up in time, because as they say, pressure will bust the pipe. If enough pressure builds up, it'll a bust a pipe. And for me, I don't think I was put on this earth to be one of the greatest football players of baseball players. I was put on this earth to share messages like this period. It's not about the fame.

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Speaker 1: I'm over.

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Speaker 3: I'm over that this is the first. But this is the first public thing that I've done since I got a professional sports and to come out and let people know something personal like that, just about me, that should tell you, hey, if this guy can do this, and we seldomly see him or hear him, it should be easy for everybody else to say, hey, I'm having probably say issues, I'm having colon issues. I'm having I found I feel a luck in my chess. We don't call them rest, but men have breast cancer.

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Speaker 1: Period.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, men have breast cancer. And I didn't know that until a couple of years ago. But to let guys know, hey, there's an avenue for you to sit and talk about it. This is a conversation for just you and your doctor. This is for you to spread with your friends. When I find out about my project, I call all my budgets from high school, college, everybody in the baseball team. We we got on a zoom call and half of my teammates already having project issues. Or I've had that project removed, but nobody knew. Talk to my teammates from the pros from baseball and football, told them the same thing because it needs to be known.

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Speaker 4: I think it's powerful too, because again it's like Bo Jackson. Everybody who has this idea of Bo Jackson?

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Speaker 1: Do you?

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Speaker 4: I assume you do because you talked about being over fame, like does it? It's got to just be exhausting knowing that everything that you've done on both the diamond and the football field, that's what people always want to talk to you about.

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Speaker 3: I hope now when people want to talk, they want to talk about these issues.

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Speaker 4: Do you ever enjoy reliving or talking about old you know, old memories and everything that you accomplished on the on the field.

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Speaker 3: Only when people ask me about them and fireside chats. It's so fun and so on.

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Speaker 1: Now my grandson I talked to him about it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And they make me watch my highlights, which I hate because I've seen him one hundred zillion times. They want to watch them over and over. You over your leg My grandsons can mimic can mimic me? And all my highlights? Really, they get the ball the head that's throw out half around. Then they imitate Hall sitting on the ground throwing his helmet. They do all of that, and they're you, is.

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Speaker 2: There a highlight of theirs that there is like their favorite.

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Speaker 1: Believe it or not, it's not of me. Really, that's what's.

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Speaker 2: We'll comp them.

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Speaker 3: It's an Aaron Judge when he hit his record breaking home run and he went around the bases and he's waving. Then he went to the fence and waved to his family in his hands. My grandson can mimic him to a t. You'll hit the ball first take out, He's go around the base. Then he'll do that little Aaron Judge dance. He went home plate and he runs over to the wall to the curtains and he's waving to Aaron Judge's parents and he come back. Then he said, Papa, I don't want them boards to put water on my head. Yeah, he caught his teammates come out with the water and that'sh on it. He likes everything but the water port on his head fair enough. So that's what I enjoy doing now. Yeah, And if I can reach out and touch one person, I figured that I've done my job. But I plan on reaching out to me. I plan on touching millions. Yeah, because we all need this absolutely one store, one store, one tale lore. It's rumored, it's out, it's people talk about it like you're you know, you're in the Old Testament times and you just got to gather around and you listen to Grandpa tell the story about one time a bo Jackson ran a what was it a full point one four And that's true.

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Speaker 1: True, we're saying the ran the four.

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Speaker 4: One three ran out of the stadium.

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Speaker 3: There's a combine at the time, Okay, but combines back then, what's where the people at the combine that they would come to your college and invite all the colleges the athletes from one hundred two hundred miles away. We had it at Auburn because that year I was gonna be a first round draft pick, and I didn't go to some big combine at at the super Dome or whatever. Because if you're the first round draft pick, if you know you're gonna be I'm one, you don't have to go to combine.

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Speaker 1: And I was on the track team.

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Speaker 3: I was on my way to track practice and my job in track, as my track coach said, if you can catch Harvey Glance, you don't have to track practice. Harvey Glance won the gold medal. He was the fastest man in the world. Alburn graduated in nineteen seventy six, so it's eighty two, so he's at least nine ten years older than me. And I never caught him. Coach said, if you catch Harvey, you don't have to track practice. And I chased him every day, couldn't catch him. So it looked like an eighteen wheeler chasing a ferrari. Yeah, and I never and I never caught his ass. But I was on my way to track practice and everybody had to come by and sit up in our indoor practice facility.

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Speaker 1: It was about sixty yards long.

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Speaker 3: And they had it set up with electronic tape on the ground, a lazy light down at the end. But they only had about from here to the wall in that room and stopping this. So they told me the ring. They they told me to run, and my coach at bow, please come in and run for these guys. They are here because they want to get your forty. All these other kids are here because they're trying to make it to where where you are. Just come right the forty because I'm tired of these people. Call them my fucking phone.

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Speaker 2: You just so you're hanging out, you're at track practice and your coach is just bugging you.

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Speaker 3: On my way to track practice, so I had to pass the facility where they were getting ready to sit up for the thing. So I said, all right, I went in and I saw where they were, and I got up, and I got down and took off and I stay from here to the finish line, which is to the wall. I let up, cruise through, ran a four two six, and the guys with the sod they said he slowed up five yards. He slowed up five yards from the thing slowed the coach at bow. Please run through the fucking tape so I can get these guys out of my head because I don't want them. Call them I thought they pissing my wife off. They waking up all the time of night, six in the morning cause they're trying to wonder where the fuck you are. Please do it for me, if you love me, run the fucking forty and run through the tape.

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Speaker 1: I said.

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Speaker 3: I'm not gonna run, I said, because if I try to stop, I'm gonna tear something.

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Speaker 2: Up.

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Speaker 3: He said, well, we'll open the fucking door. And that door hadn't been opened since I've been at all, and I was there for four years. That door and they cleared all the crap back and they opened that back door. And I went and got down and I told my guy, my teammates on the track, who was a high jumper, I said, will you get my bag and just gonna short walk walking towards the track, because when I break this tape here and run this, I'm gonna keep going to the track. And I got down and pile out the blox and everybody everybody had stop watching, and the electronic tape was by itself, so all of everybody they had to stop watch had me under four one elect trunk, some guys had had had some guys had me had three nine three nine five four flat four one. And the tape said, when I crossed the laser line, it was flashing four one three and I kept going.

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Speaker 2: So, so when did you find out that you ran a full one three? Because clearly they came up to the practice.

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Speaker 3: They came up to the track practice and they said, hey, what do you think you're running? What do you think you ran? I said, I don't know. They said, you ran a four one three. I said, all right, They said all right, they said ain't Ain't nobody ever running fucking four four four one three? And you said all right, And I said something to the fact. Look, I got big of fish and fried like trying to catch this motherfucker over here.

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Speaker 2: I'm trying to not do the track practice is all you're thinking about.

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Speaker 3: I'm trying. I'm trying to get out of track practice. But that that never happened. But the four one three story is true.

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Speaker 2: It's factual. So when you see it, the combine and for the longest time was Chris Johnson, right, who was four two nine, and then the cat that went to Cincinnati. I previous name, he was John Ross. Yeah, he broke that. You're watching everybody argue on the NFL network about all the fastest forty time and you're sitting there just with your grandkids, like these guys don't even know that.

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Speaker 3: Well, I'm saying it's sim saying, well, I didn't say it, but the arrogance side.

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Speaker 2: Of me, yeah, which is on the side of me, the.

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Speaker 3: Twenty one year old side of me. Yeah, what I said, Shit, he's still looking at the bottom of my cleats because he's crossing fans and I'm down. That's slowing down, So I didn't cross it. But yeah, yeah, yeah, that's what I would have said. But but no, I chipped my hat to the young man for running.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I took my hat to him. But I know what I did.

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Speaker 3: I wish somebody from that that was there at that combine that probably was dead, but I wish that they would come out and say, hey, I was there when he ran before one three.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no one ever came out and said anything.

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Speaker 3: I don't know who they are because I didn't care because I was on because I told that I had a bigger fish to fry.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you're probably the first man in history to be the number one overall pick and sit there and be like, yeah, I don't care about that. I have to go to track practice.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: We were at a radio road to day and we were walking around doing a little bit of media here and there, and I heard a story about you how when you're growing up you wanted to go to University of Alabama, and your visit to Alabama is why you went to Auburn.

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Speaker 3: The coach came into my house to visit with me and my mom, and we were expecting coach Bryant to come up. And he told me coach Bryant had a family emergency the head to go ten to, so they sent the defensive coordinator Ken down the Hill. And I just come in from a baseball game. I come through the front door. I walk in, I see my mom sitting at the dining table, this old white guy. I speak, go downstairs and do my laundry, get my baseball uniform out to watch it like we do, cause I got a game. The next day. He comes down, he said, Vincent. They call me Vincent Vincent. My name's coach Ken Downehill. I'm the defensive coordinator at the Universe Talit of Alabama. First of all, I want to apologize because coach Bryant couldn't make it because he had a family emergency, had to go ten to. He said, But I want to tell you that we would love to have you in Tuchcalusha. We think you'll fit in great, We'll think he'll be successful. But my honest opinion is that I don't think you get a chance to play till the end of your sophomore. The beginning of your junior season, and you know, the only other place you want to go to that you were looking at is Auburn because you want to stay closer home so your family can come see you play. Then he said, this, young man, let me, let me tell you something about Auburn.

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Speaker 1: I said.

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Speaker 3: He said, Auburn hasn't beat Alabama since nineteen seventy two. This was nineteen eighty two. And then he said, and they never will. So I shook his hand like bet because he said, Vincent, I'm gonna go back up stairs and talk to your mother. So he shook my hand, and I'm smiling, but inside I'm saying to myself, you gotta be a fucking fool if you think I'm gonna come to your universe and ride the bench for two fucking years and not play. He's still got to what I'm saying, he.

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Speaker 4: Relives and getting tight or tired of.

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Speaker 3: My God damn, But that's what I'm saying to myself. Yeah, And I remember his last words, and they never will. When my freshman year, all been signed eleven running backs. They signed the number one running back in the state and I wasn't. And I think I was the fifth top running back that they claim I was. But come they let me in the game one time. And I say this to all kids who is competing in sports. If you go out for a position, somebody's in front of you, you should have one goal on your mind is to take his job. I don't care who he is, it's to take his job. And I told him, you put me in the game, I'm going to make it hardest hell for you to ever want to take me out. And that's what I lived by. And I got in the game, or this second possession, first quart against wake Forest my freshman year, I lit him up like a Christmas tree. And I've been doing that, but in not saying that from a bragging standpoint, but I try to teach young kids today you should have one goal is to make it to the top and stay there. I said, my mental aspect of the game was when I stepped across that white line on the football field to go on the football field, or step across that white line on the baseball field. In my mind, I'm the baddest motherfucker on the planet. Ain't no dog is bigger than me on the field or badd than me. And I said, that's the way I live my life in sports, not saying it's about me, but this dog is gonna make it to where my all my teammates, my other dog can run around the ball park call I'm gonna make sure that I'm the baddest dog in the park.

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Speaker 2: Kind of going right now, So how were you on the field, were you like internally as the baddest dog on the field. Were you sitting there and just kind of quiet, keep to yourself, or you're a shit talker.

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Speaker 1: Quiet before the storm?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Quiet, quiet before something. I never ship talking the.

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Speaker 4: Storm has happening.

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Speaker 2: What about what other dogs are barking?

00:32:03
Speaker 1: When I let the bark let a bark?

00:32:07
Speaker 2: Yeah, people walk up.

00:32:07
Speaker 3: Both bark, never bark has never anybody If they try to bite you, my bites bigger.

00:32:19
Speaker 1: So you were.

00:32:20
Speaker 2: Unfazed by the ship talk. Someone walked up to your boat, You were, bitch, you're not going to do anything today.

00:32:24
Speaker 1: Speak with that's all.

00:32:29
Speaker 4: They'd kind of scared now, Yeah, kind of super Bowl Jackson. You can imagine that type of swagger confidence that this player would have, especially when they're like a dual sport athlete. Do we feel like there's ever going to be a dual sport athlete. Again, like in your mind as you sit back and see, guys.

00:32:49
Speaker 3: Not for football baseball, not for football baseball. If you try to do both, you're going to be mediocre in both. You'll never be a start at both positions.

00:33:00
Speaker 4: What made it you to where you were a pro bowler in it, all star in both of those sports?

00:33:07
Speaker 1: The heart, the fight, heart, the fight.

00:33:10
Speaker 4: Was it hard to juggle both?

00:33:12
Speaker 2: No, no, see here's a problem. Will let me just tell you something right now. We brought Bo back. We hit to that mindset right now, and now he's just thinking to himself. I don't go to say a whole lot. I have my actions. We've lost him. We've lost We've lost him to the darkness right now.

00:33:32
Speaker 3: We lost we are But I'll tell you one one short then I'm gonna let you fellas go. Monday Night, Monday Night Football Raiders canst Seattle my college roommate who blocked for me for four years? What's back up? Full back to Johnny L. Williams for Seattle Tommy agent And it's the week that let's the other fans made up big to do out of bowl Versus Bosworth Brian Bosworth baddest guy in the NFL. Soul called badest guy in the NFL. He had the mohawk with the pink and red hair, they had the tattoos and everything, and he was Jack and Bodswory's got to be tamous. And I'll tell you that he was smart because that persona he put on.

00:34:28
Speaker 1: Made him a shit ton of money, right, the bad guy. Yeah, the rebel.

00:34:34
Speaker 3: I'm gonna hit you even if you run out of bound. That's him. Take the fifteen yard penps. I don't care, but I'm gonna teach you you can't run away from me.

00:34:43
Speaker 1: And I like that.

00:34:45
Speaker 3: In the whole week they talked Bosworth talking I'm down in LA with the Raiders. They said, oh, yes, no out of him. Nothing to say now that week leading up to the game, Wednesday before the game, Now, I'm not exaggerating this and I'm not lying. Swear on my mother's grave. The Thursday before that game, on Monday night, three things happened. The first thing happened was I told my wife she was pregnant with our second child, and she didn't believe me, and she got a pregnant test two days later, and she was pregnant she said.

00:35:28
Speaker 1: How did you know that? Swear?

00:35:31
Speaker 3: No, I'm here, And then I went back and said, and just being arrogant because just me and her in the room, I said that bow no shit, I said, it's true. So that's just me that the first thing happened.

00:35:48
Speaker 1: Yeah.

00:35:51
Speaker 3: The second thing that happened that game was November thirty, nineteen eighty seven, my twenty sixth birthday. On that day, the third thing that happened, I celebrated my birthday, Me and my raided teammates by blowing the asshole out of the Seahawks them, oh on them, folding them up and putting them in our pocket. But at the end of the game, we have a saying, what do you want to do with these guys? By the end of the same we want to have their souls in our hands, stuffing them in their pocket. By the fourth quarter, we want to kill the will, kill their will to even players they don't play it somewhere. And the icing on the cake was when our truck bars worked down on the goal line, like, oh, they've been talking all day, but it worked out good.

00:36:50
Speaker 1: Now.

00:36:51
Speaker 3: The first play that I ran two series before, I had the ninety something yard run. We ran a play and I cut it back because I'm using all my peripheral visions.

00:37:06
Speaker 1: I never looked here. I'm looking here, I'm looking at you, and.

00:37:10
Speaker 3: I'm looking at this guy here, but I'm looking this way, so I'm looking so I see my So I was notorious for cutting back and eating you up. My offensive coordinator Terry Terry Terry Row Biscuy, well.

00:37:26
Speaker 1: We call him biscuit. We busy, Come on, said Bow.

00:37:31
Speaker 3: He said, we're gonna run that play two series from now.

00:37:35
Speaker 1: We ain't gonna run that same play.

00:37:37
Speaker 3: Keep it outside, and I promise you you take it outside, You're gonna bust their ass wide open. And was back back on the seven yard line and was it except six six year six yard line or something? He said, keep it outside, and I did, and went went to Tacoma, asked what's the name? He said, He's not gonna stop till he could get to a coma. And they had the door open until they were in the stadium. That's the only way I stopped. They had and in the tunnel there was about thirty thirty forty yards. I went three courts away down that tone, turnout and come back. Most of the defense all of the kicking get gained was in the tunnel, clapping for me, hugging me, cheering me on and so for this song. And then I think I caught a pass for a touchdown. And then the pay I put the nail in the coffin that killed the spirits was when I truck barged down on the three yard line.

00:38:37
Speaker 2: He said anything to you after the game?

00:38:39
Speaker 3: No, but with me being young and but I lie, this is a lot, so I'm saying it to you right now. But I wanted to say, next time, have a bus fare, motherfucker I but I didn't. That's just the trash side of me talking, because as you know, we talked trash the whole game. We talked trash the whole game. And but that night, that week was probably the best week of my sports career because of the pregnancy of my wife, my birthday and all my family and friends back home got to see me work.

00:39:18
Speaker 4: Yeah, what was uh?

00:39:20
Speaker 2: What was a relationship relationship? Like with Terry Robisque in twenty sixteen, he was He was our offics coordinator at the Titans, and he was His personality is incredible. He could sit there and tell stories.

00:39:30
Speaker 1: But I just did a piece with him last year about his book.

00:39:32
Speaker 2: Oh really that's awesome.

00:39:34
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah.

00:39:35
Speaker 4: At what age do you feel like you're uh you you kind of do something outside whatever it is where you're like you just you have the conversation with yourself.

00:39:42
Speaker 1: You're like, I don't got it anymore. Oh, hell, I said say that. I say that when I lift the toilet. See, but all the ability had in the morning, Yes, I was.

00:39:55
Speaker 3: I'd have to say, I sit up and think now, and I say to myself, you with the ship at one time, and you woke up this morning and you felt like you got run over by a herd of cattle. And I have and I asked, man with my wife, did you beat me with a sledg Tamil last tight while I was asleep? Arms hurt, my elbow, can't sleep because this shoulder hurt. Got an artificial shoulder here officially hip prop State Surgery Colony. I'm a mess.

00:40:31
Speaker 1: I'm a mess.

00:40:32
Speaker 2: I know we had two. I have one more question? Was you with a butt light question? What do you say to people when everybody's argued by the greatest athlete of all time? Like your name in Deon Sanders's name comes up quite a bit. What do you think when people are arguing for Deon Sanders, knowing the mindset you have, and I know you're not going to say it publicly, but what do you think.

00:40:51
Speaker 3: Everybody have their own opinion. I would never say I'm the better athlete because that's not my man. I'm gonna always compliment somebody else, period. Deon Sander was great at what he did. He's in the hall.

00:41:09
Speaker 4: The thing.

00:41:11
Speaker 3: I love him for that weird friends, and I'm quite sure I'm I'm gonna go to ca collar route and get him on my podcast because with him having his bladder cancer and my propitiate issue ship, we'll have an award winning podcast.

00:41:27
Speaker 4: Hell yeah to the two greatest to do it on, you know, playing both baseball and football, you guys having a conversation with all the hell stuff going on.

00:41:35
Speaker 3: Absolutely, so that's where I am. And I say this, I was good for the sports when I played, but those sports was great for both Jackson. It's allowed me to be here with you all. It's allowed me to provide for my family. It's allowed me to do things for the public that nobody knows about. I can go do things in the shadows and put some sunshine in somebody's life and leave and nobody know the difference. And I love that. I love that part of me. I love being private. I don't have to be out there look at me, Hey, this is me. I hate that a lot of people. I've been living in my community in Illinois for almost thirty five years and I drive my Dodge Duly to the service station that's a mile up the street and I'm not hitting you. Somebody will walk up to me and say, you like that, fellow bow Jackson. Then they said, damn it, you are What the hell are you doing in Illinois? I live a mile down the road. Nobody knows it. The people that see me often is my buddies that I hunt with, fish with, and the people down on the golf course.

00:42:55
Speaker 2: That's awesome.

00:42:55
Speaker 1: That's you'll see me the most. That's awesome.

00:42:57
Speaker 4: We have a segment sponsored by budd Light because people would do anything for a nice school bud Light. But what is something that bo Jackson would do anything for?

00:43:07
Speaker 1: What it is something or someone that I do anything for?

00:43:10
Speaker 4: Something bo Jackson would do anything for?

00:43:13
Speaker 2: Wrinkle in it to I can't say family.

00:43:15
Speaker 1: All right, I would do anything to keep.

00:43:25
Speaker 3: No, I can't say that because I'm starting a podcast, all right.

00:43:33
Speaker 1: And it can't be anything with the family.

00:43:35
Speaker 2: No, no, no, no. Well, we give you if.

00:43:38
Speaker 1: You can't give you fai like that.

00:43:40
Speaker 4: If you have a favorite grand Jill that you know I want them to be, I will take that.

00:43:45
Speaker 3: But I would I would give my life. I would give my life if I can hug and kiss my mom again.

00:44:00
Speaker 1: Mm hmm period. Period. That's a good one. It's a really good one. Thank you man. I appreciate it. We really appreciate it.

00:44:12
Speaker 2: Thank you man, Thank you, get your sleep.

00:44:15
Speaker 1: Thank thank you all Mam