Big (1988) vs. Twins (1988): Part 2

<v Speaker 1>Hello everybody, and welcome back to the Shirley You Can't
<v Speaker 1>Be Serious podcast. We are here with part two of
<v Speaker 1>our Big Twins, Big Twins episode. You have got something
<v Speaker 1>for you, so let me just lay it all out
<v Speaker 1>here on the floor, right, let me find a middle
<v Speaker 1>c here.
<v Speaker 2>And here we go.
<v Speaker 1>Heart and soul.
<v Speaker 3>Yes, ready.
<v Speaker 1>So for that scene, they had doubles, I know, right,
<v Speaker 1>they had doubles. Now, I don't know how to put
<v Speaker 1>together exactly all of the stories that I heard, but basically,
<v Speaker 1>Robert Loja and Tom Hanks know that they have doubles,
<v Speaker 1>and the doubles are there in case they're not good
<v Speaker 1>enough dancers to pull it off themselves. Right, Robert Loja
<v Speaker 1>and Tom Hanks cut out two different cardboards, go home
<v Speaker 1>and practice this because there's no freaking way they're gonna
<v Speaker 1>let the doubles steal their thunder. Absolutely, and it is
<v Speaker 1>the one of the most memorable scenes in movie history.
<v Speaker 3>That's a huge scene and have those actors pull that
<v Speaker 3>off is so vital to the heart and soul this movie.
<v Speaker 1>Haha. See what you did there, chopsticks? All right? So
<v Speaker 1>so you know, let's that brings us We're talking about
<v Speaker 1>the production and the what we love about these movies
<v Speaker 1>right now? Okay, yes, so Big is one of those
<v Speaker 1>movies that hit me right where it needed to hit
<v Speaker 1>me right when. I mean told you I'm the same
<v Speaker 1>age as these guys. I'm identifying with everything that they're
<v Speaker 1>going through. And there's I'm watching this movie and there's
<v Speaker 1>literally not one single scene that they got wrong. Like
<v Speaker 1>everything works. And I know you have some.
<v Speaker 3>Problems with tip in your hand here a little bit.
<v Speaker 1>I don't care. Okay, I told you that once I
<v Speaker 1>was done with Kelly Priston, I was done with Twins.
<v Speaker 3>Okay, so I do have some problems with Big, right,
<v Speaker 3>So let me just say when I was like, Okay,
<v Speaker 3>I can't wait for my kids to be old enough
<v Speaker 3>to watch Big because obviously it's you know, it's questionable
<v Speaker 3>in parts.
<v Speaker 1>You know, there's some sexual references and such, and so
<v Speaker 1>I was super excited. And then when I got it,
<v Speaker 1>somehow I ended up getting the extended version, and so
<v Speaker 1>when I watched that with my kids, I'm like, this
<v Speaker 1>doesn't seem right. And then I'm like, wait a minute,
<v Speaker 1>this is not a scene that was in the original movie.
<v Speaker 1>And then I go back, I'm like, oh crap, how
<v Speaker 1>did I get the extended version. So for those of
<v Speaker 1>you who have the opportunity to see the extended version,
<v Speaker 1>don't it sucks. Don't do that, Okay. The way that
<v Speaker 1>they put each of these scenes together in the theatrical cut, editing, timing, everything,
<v Speaker 1>thing is perfectly on point, and it gets ruined in
<v Speaker 1>the extended version, So don't watch that.
<v Speaker 3>Kind of like Star Wars, keep going.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, heck yeah.
<v Speaker 3>So what what did you see that wasn't in the
<v Speaker 3>theatrical I can't remember.
<v Speaker 1>I mean I was. I mean, my oldest is twenty now,
<v Speaker 1>so that's you know, she was probably twelve, okay, and
<v Speaker 1>when that happened, and I tried to erase it from
<v Speaker 1>my memory.
<v Speaker 3>Really, I heard that there was some stuff with Billy's
<v Speaker 3>parents and they weren't very nice.
<v Speaker 1>I don't even know. Okay, I don't even remember that part.
<v Speaker 1>So so they're just moment to moment. We talk about
<v Speaker 1>how important that scene is with the keyboard and how
<v Speaker 1>memorable it is. But you've got the scene on the
<v Speaker 1>trampoline with Elizabeth Perkins, which is fantastic. You got the
<v Speaker 1>scene in the limo where he stands up and is
<v Speaker 1>having fun. You get the scene where he is putting
<v Speaker 1>together his apartment. I mean, that's a memorable scene for
<v Speaker 1>me because I'm thinking, Yes, this is where I want
<v Speaker 1>to live when I grow up. I want to have
<v Speaker 1>a big, like warehouse style apartment, and I put in
<v Speaker 1>a pinball machine, and I can skateboard and drink PEPSI
<v Speaker 1>bump bed and a trampoline. I mean, heck yeah, I'm
<v Speaker 1>wanna throw the baseball and have the coke pop out.
<v Speaker 1>That's what's gonna happen.
<v Speaker 3>Absolutely, should we talk about my problems with Big?
<v Speaker 1>Sure, let's go ahead.
<v Speaker 3>You want to get into I agree with you.
<v Speaker 1>I can tell you where you're wrong.
<v Speaker 3>Okay, So I agree with you that Big is an
<v Speaker 3>immensely charming movie. It's lots of fun. I was just
<v Speaker 3>to touch old, so it didn't hit me straight Bullseye
<v Speaker 3>Summer of eighty eight. But I still got the charm
<v Speaker 3>and Tom Hanks is lovable. How could you not love it?
<v Speaker 3>So for me, I have just a couple of issues.
<v Speaker 3>Josh's mom is in hell the entire movie, and my
<v Speaker 3>heart breaks for her, and it broke in eighty eight
<v Speaker 3>when I saw him, like this woman thinks her child
<v Speaker 3>has been kidnapped.
<v Speaker 1>You have my boy, yeah, and you're gonna get him
<v Speaker 1>back just the way he was.
<v Speaker 2>Look.
<v Speaker 3>I swear to God if you do anything to him,
<v Speaker 3>if you touch one hair on his head, I will
<v Speaker 3>spend the rest of my life making sure you suffer.
<v Speaker 2>Wow.
<v Speaker 3>Thanks, We just glaze over that, glazy glaze over that.
<v Speaker 1>Okay.
<v Speaker 3>Josh writes her letters and tells her how much funny
<v Speaker 3>is having like at summer camp, and she's like, my
<v Speaker 3>child has been kidnapped.
<v Speaker 1>Listen when that scene happens. Just keep in mind this
<v Speaker 1>is this is a mom that loves her kid and
<v Speaker 1>a kid that loves his mom. When he becomes big
<v Speaker 1>for the first time, his first instinct is like, I've
<v Speaker 1>got to fix this before mom finds out. Right, He goes,
<v Speaker 1>He drides his bike and goes back to the find
<v Speaker 1>the Zoltar machine at the fair. Except when he gets there,
<v Speaker 1>fair's gone packed up and moved and the Zultar machine
<v Speaker 1>has moved with them, right right, And then the next
<v Speaker 1>first instinct, I can't fix this myself. Does he go
<v Speaker 1>to Billy, his very best friend in the whole world. First, No,
<v Speaker 1>he goes to his mom and tries to explain to
<v Speaker 1>his mom and she goes nuts, right, threatens him with
<v Speaker 1>a butcher knife. I mean, I can see how he
<v Speaker 1>might get a little freaked out at that point, and right,
<v Speaker 1>and then next he goes to Billy. I love how
<v Speaker 1>Dad is like a minor character in this, like why
<v Speaker 1>would we talk to dad?
<v Speaker 3>And just where's Cracodile has this?
<v Speaker 1>Yeah he's yeah. And so by the way, in casting,
<v Speaker 1>I noticed you didn't talk about who played baby sister
<v Speaker 1>in this. Yeah, they don't know who it is, like literally,
<v Speaker 1>like there's not a credit given. And so to this day,
<v Speaker 1>thirty five years later, nobody knows it is a mystery.
<v Speaker 1>So he goes to talk to Billy and they show
<v Speaker 1>this as a big problem, right, Like the one who's
<v Speaker 1>most worried about this, it seems to be Josh, Like
<v Speaker 1>he's panicked. I don't know what to do. Great, I
<v Speaker 1>want to be thirty years old for the rest of
<v Speaker 1>my life, right, Like that's the culmination, after they go
<v Speaker 1>through all of these steps to try to fix this problem.
<v Speaker 1>He doesn't want this to have happened. And I think
<v Speaker 1>the fact that he can't go talk to his mom
<v Speaker 1>about it, we've established that because he tried it was
<v Speaker 1>the first thing he tried. And then just before they
<v Speaker 1>leave and go to New York, they're walking by Josh's
<v Speaker 1>house and the police are talking to her and they're like, well,
<v Speaker 1>they didn't leave a ransom note. I don't know, and
<v Speaker 1>like the other kid that you're standing outside, I wish
<v Speaker 1>I could run away. Yeah, you should go ahead, back up,
<v Speaker 1>let me back for you. Yeah, And so they touch
<v Speaker 1>on it. But you can't make that the focus of
<v Speaker 1>the movie. This is a feel good movie.
<v Speaker 3>I understand. I'm just saying my heart as a parent
<v Speaker 3>breaks for this.
<v Speaker 1>Woman, and it should and it should, but that can't
<v Speaker 1>be I mean, that's what's not what the movie is about.
<v Speaker 3>Okay, here's the flip side, the other side of the
<v Speaker 3>coin of big. Yeah, there's a Mel Gibson movie where
<v Speaker 3>he's the detective and there's a child that's been taken
<v Speaker 3>and he's interviewing the parents, and by god, he needs
<v Speaker 3>to interview that boy next door because he's the best
<v Speaker 3>friend and he knows something right and he's going through
<v Speaker 3>the slums of New York trying to figure out where
<v Speaker 3>this kid went. By god, and this is the last
<v Speaker 3>case I saw, and by God, I'm gonna do it.
<v Speaker 3>We don't get to see that movie. That'd be a
<v Speaker 3>movie I'd want to see.
<v Speaker 1>Really. Yeah, and then and the culmination is that he's
<v Speaker 1>kidnapped because he turned big after making a wish on
<v Speaker 1>a carnival game.
<v Speaker 3>Well, and also he's investigating the fact that he got
<v Speaker 3>a phone call from Melantoys from the kidnapper. And when
<v Speaker 3>he goes to show up there there's a new employee
<v Speaker 3>by the name of Josh Baskin.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's interesting. It's interesting.
<v Speaker 3>Also, adult Josh Baskin goes missing. His coworkers don't know
<v Speaker 3>what happened.
<v Speaker 2>Where did he go?
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, one minute he's presenting he's the superstar of the company,
<v Speaker 3>vanished without a trace.
<v Speaker 1>It's this weird look on his face, just kind of
<v Speaker 1>wanders off.
<v Speaker 3>Here's the meeting. Nobody sees him again.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.
<v Speaker 3>Interesting. Yeah, mel Gibson's got his hands full.
<v Speaker 1>Why Mel Gibson, Why Nicknalty, Gary Busey, some sort of
<v Speaker 1>exactly there you go. Okay, so tell me what your
<v Speaker 1>other problems are. Uh.
<v Speaker 3>My other problems have to do with the sexual nature
<v Speaker 3>of the relationship between an adult woman and a child.
<v Speaker 3>And I understand that this is a fantasy and we're
<v Speaker 3>all seeing it through Josh's eyes, and I know she
<v Speaker 3>didn't know better. There's a thirteen year old kid and
<v Speaker 3>a thirty year old.
<v Speaker 1>Woman who have sex, right, but he's in a thirty
<v Speaker 1>year old body.
<v Speaker 3>I understand that.
<v Speaker 1>I understand it, so it'd be a lot worse. It's
<v Speaker 1>the other way around.
<v Speaker 3>Really hard to get around that part. Yeah, other than that,
<v Speaker 3>I think it's great.
<v Speaker 1>So those two, just those two things, just those two things, Okay,
<v Speaker 1>I'm I'm okay, I accept I accept those two things.
<v Speaker 1>I think you're wrong about the mom thing. I think
<v Speaker 1>they give it exactly as much attention as it deserves.
<v Speaker 1>I mean, talk about the moment where he has to
<v Speaker 1>sing her the song and she's crying and he feels awful.
<v Speaker 1>That's that is exactly what needs to happen and is
<v Speaker 1>the entire breadth of what needs to happen with the
<v Speaker 1>mom and it's a touching, touching moment.
<v Speaker 3>There is a funny moment there too as well, where
<v Speaker 3>she's like, ask him the song I used to sing
<v Speaker 3>to him and he's like, would you rather ask him else?
<v Speaker 3>So funnyom.
<v Speaker 1>The corner of my mom.
<v Speaker 3>Well gives and needs to trace that phone called to
<v Speaker 3>the toy department, what a weird thing. Yes, okay, you
<v Speaker 3>said that whenever you were this age and these movies
<v Speaker 3>came out, you thought they were both cute movies. They're
<v Speaker 3>both cute movies, enjoyable, but nothing that like wowed you
<v Speaker 3>to death. I don't. I think that they are among
<v Speaker 3>the best movies of the eighties or even eighty eight.
<v Speaker 3>So in the summer of eighty eight, you had Coming
<v Speaker 3>to America come.
<v Speaker 1>Out, yeah, which we've covered.
<v Speaker 3>Which we've covered, and I thought was fantastic. And then
<v Speaker 3>we had this other movie where terrorists take over the
<v Speaker 3>Knaka Tony Plaza, which we've covered, which we've covered Against
<v Speaker 3>Leith Weapon that's one of my favorite episodes. Right, I
<v Speaker 3>was much more interested in what John McClain was doing
<v Speaker 3>than Josh Baskin. Okay, but I still I get it.
<v Speaker 3>I enjoy these movies. I like the charm of both
<v Speaker 3>of them. I think they're both cute, they're funny. I've
<v Speaker 3>got a smile on my face the entire time. Now
<v Speaker 3>I don't bust out laughing the entire time like I
<v Speaker 3>did the first time I saw Coming to America. But
<v Speaker 3>they're both enjoyable movies.
<v Speaker 1>So whenever you watch The Big again for this, did
<v Speaker 1>it move the needle for you? Did you change your thimet?
<v Speaker 3>I liked it better. I liked it better because I'm
<v Speaker 3>an adult. I'm the you know, I'm the older Josh.
<v Speaker 3>Even though we're not spot on the idea of being
<v Speaker 3>young again. It's a fantasy, right.
<v Speaker 1>We've got that question that you dropped on the last
<v Speaker 1>episode that we're going to have to cover here in
<v Speaker 1>a little No. No, I'm anxious to hear what you think. Yeah, yeah,
<v Speaker 1>so shall we talk about twins.
<v Speaker 3>Let's talk about twins.
<v Speaker 1>Okay, so Twins. I didn't see in nineteen eighty eight.
<v Speaker 1>I saw it for the first time a night and
<v Speaker 1>a half ago.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, what do you think.
<v Speaker 1>It wasn't good? Not at all. No, it wasn't.
<v Speaker 3>I didn't like it.
<v Speaker 1>No, And I mean, obviously I've revealed where I'm going
<v Speaker 1>to end up on these you know, final judgment is revealed.
<v Speaker 1>Sorry spoiler alert. But no, I mean I wanted to
<v Speaker 1>enjoy it very much, and as I watched it, I
<v Speaker 1>had to keep reminding myself, Okay, this is nineteen eighty eight,
<v Speaker 1>pacing right, this is not this is not the comedy
<v Speaker 1>of today. That it needs to hit me a little
<v Speaker 1>bit faster. Events need to occur a little bit faster
<v Speaker 1>for my short, short attention span. This is nineteen eighty eight,
<v Speaker 1>and so the delayed humor is something that I just
<v Speaker 1>kind of got to remember how to enjoy. But even
<v Speaker 1>telling myself that, there were like two moments where I
<v Speaker 1>kind of chuckled at something that Danny DeVito said, you would.
<v Speaker 2>Tell your brother he messes with me, he messes with my.
<v Speaker 1>Old family, and then kept expecting it to go somewhere
<v Speaker 1>that it never went. I mean, the end. I knew
<v Speaker 1>from the beginning that they would find their mother again.
<v Speaker 1>I knew that from the beginning because I could just tell.
<v Speaker 1>It was just that I know that's what's going to happen, sure,
<v Speaker 1>But there were so many opportunities that I felt like
<v Speaker 1>they had that they didn't fulfill, and then they threw
<v Speaker 1>something into the middle that I thought, well, if we'd
<v Speaker 1>had a little bit of the beginning, then it would
<v Speaker 1>have made a little more sense. But this is just
<v Speaker 1>kind of some random act that now is happening in
<v Speaker 1>this movie, and I just was like, not that funny.
<v Speaker 1>It all seems to be built on I mean, the
<v Speaker 1>success of this movie is all built on the ridiculous
<v Speaker 1>idea of the premise of Arnold Schwarzenegger and Danny DeVito.
<v Speaker 1>These polar opposites are twins joke. It's a great it's
<v Speaker 1>a great premise. It's a great premise, and I felt
<v Speaker 1>like guys from The Trading Places and guys from these
<v Speaker 1>other monumental movies that figured out how to do it.
<v Speaker 1>Later on, I thought they would deliver more in this one,
<v Speaker 1>and then just they didn't.
<v Speaker 3>Okay, you want to hear my problem with Twins. Okay,
<v Speaker 3>So Jeff Johnson and I always talked about the Calvin cut, Right,
<v Speaker 3>what would I change about this movie to.
<v Speaker 1>Make it better?
<v Speaker 3>So the initial joke is that Julius finds out he's
<v Speaker 3>got a brother and he's been missing and they're going
<v Speaker 3>to reunite. That's a great premise. And then it kind
<v Speaker 3>of collides with a Miami Vice episode of Beetroot and
<v Speaker 3>the stolen V eight engine.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the turbocharge, the turbo charge thing, now fuel injected,
<v Speaker 1>that's it.
<v Speaker 3>Fuel jestation. Yeah, that's right. So, first of all, that's
<v Speaker 3>not a big enough mcguffin for me.
<v Speaker 1>Nope.
<v Speaker 3>The arc of the Covenant in the back of somebody's trunk.
<v Speaker 3>You know, let's raise the stakes a little bit or.
<v Speaker 1>Something, right, Well, I mean, and you expect it to
<v Speaker 1>be drugs the whole time. Yeah, and then it's like
<v Speaker 1>it's a fuel injector. Uh okay, well that's a weird,
<v Speaker 1>interesting thing to do.
<v Speaker 3>It's a left blinker for a new car coming out.
<v Speaker 1>Anyway, go ahead, Colvin Cutt.
<v Speaker 3>So, I think that if they had started off giving
<v Speaker 3>us a little bit of the backstory on that particular
<v Speaker 3>thing at the beginning of the movie, you know, bad
<v Speaker 3>guys or hey, they knock off somebody, they steal it
<v Speaker 3>from a corporate warehouse somewhere, and they, you know, beat
<v Speaker 3>roots involved. And we know who the bad guys are.
<v Speaker 3>We know what this item is, we know how important
<v Speaker 3>it is or how valuable it is, and that story
<v Speaker 3>parallels to Julius and Vincent. But we just kind of
<v Speaker 3>collide with that part of the story.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.
<v Speaker 3>And then you and I talked about the bad guy.
<v Speaker 3>I thought he was kind of menacing, but you said
<v Speaker 3>you kind of liked him.
<v Speaker 1>I did kind of like him. And this guy, this
<v Speaker 1>is the Webster character. This is Marshall Bell, the guy
<v Speaker 1>who was supposed to get the car and supposed to
<v Speaker 1>deliver the fuel injection engine for five million dollars right right,
<v Speaker 1>And I texted you, I'm like, hey, I wonder if
<v Speaker 1>he's this guy and Ernie are friends because he is
<v Speaker 1>the prophet or at least the guy who has the
<v Speaker 1>profit baby in his belly from Total Recall, I know
<v Speaker 1>that blew me away, which we covered with We covered
<v Speaker 1>Total Recall with the guys from a thirty something.
<v Speaker 3>I did do that.
<v Speaker 1>Okay, so thirty something movie podcast, we did Total Recall
<v Speaker 1>episode with him, and this guy's in it, and I
<v Speaker 1>thought he was. He was funny. I mean, you know,
<v Speaker 1>I just you know what, nobody's ever I was supposed
<v Speaker 1>to deliver this and you know what, nobody's ever seen
<v Speaker 1>my face boom boom boom. Like he's terrifying but also
<v Speaker 1>kind of you know, likable. Sure, but yeah, I'm with you, like,
<v Speaker 1>if you're going to introduce that, give us something in
<v Speaker 1>the beginning, don't just randomly The only thing, the only
<v Speaker 1>foundation that they lay is that David Caruso tells Danny
<v Speaker 1>DeVito when there are cars that are worth something, he
<v Speaker 1>could come and steal and fence to this other car.
<v Speaker 1>Dealership or whatever. Right, it doesn't lay any foundation about
<v Speaker 1>the fuel injection engine and why Webster's involved there, any
<v Speaker 1>of that that is not late. What foundation is late
<v Speaker 1>at the beginning is, hey, we did this massive scientific
<v Speaker 1>experimant involving this beautiful woman and these five different fathers,
<v Speaker 1>put them all together to create the perfect human being,
<v Speaker 1>perfect physically, perfect mentally, you know, educated on this island,
<v Speaker 1>raised in a tropical paradise to create this perfect being. Great.
<v Speaker 1>That is a fantastic premise. And then five minutes in
<v Speaker 1>the movie, he rows off the island with their blessing
<v Speaker 1>and never comes back. We don't know why they did it.
<v Speaker 1>We don't know why they let him go so easily.
<v Speaker 1>It's just like, well, we spent all this money and
<v Speaker 1>all this time and thirty it's their thirty fifth birthday,
<v Speaker 1>thirty five years and we'll just say, oh, you want
<v Speaker 1>to go see you brother, all right, see you later,
<v Speaker 1>and we don't tell you why we did all this
<v Speaker 1>in the first place.
<v Speaker 3>See, I asked myself that very question. I'm like, what's
<v Speaker 3>going on at the island? You know, I think that
<v Speaker 3>the experiment was like officially shelved. And then you have
<v Speaker 3>that one doctor just kind of raising Arnold because there's
<v Speaker 3>neally no other explanation because they just.
<v Speaker 1>Let him go.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, which I sent you a picture. I don't want
<v Speaker 3>to beat this lady up. But the island that Arnold
<v Speaker 3>Schwarzenegger lives on in the opening scene where he's rowing away, yeah,
<v Speaker 3>there's a giant lady straight out of a trailer on
<v Speaker 3>the beach with him. So clearly not everybody's eating health
<v Speaker 3>food and studying philosophy.
<v Speaker 1>I must have missed that. Oh my gosh, that's hilarious.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.
<v Speaker 1>Yes, they hang their hat on two jokes. One, Danny
<v Speaker 1>Veto and Arnold Schwarzenegger are twins.
<v Speaker 2>Genetic garbage.
<v Speaker 1>We're twins, we're basically the same. And two, Arnold Schwarzenegger,
<v Speaker 1>mister action hero himself, is this naive virgin for the
<v Speaker 1>first time in mainland America dealing with.
<v Speaker 3>All of the let's talk about that crime and other stuff.
<v Speaker 3>When Kelly Preston seduces Arnold, so he is, I'm sorry,
<v Speaker 3>I lost track of food about this stuff in theory
<v Speaker 3>theory until the beautiful Kelly Preston shows up and.
<v Speaker 1>They're a manual.
<v Speaker 3>We'll figure it out. So yeah, in both movies, you
<v Speaker 3>have two men lose their virginity and both have friggin
<v Speaker 3>goofy as crap looks on their face in the next scene.
<v Speaker 3>And now that scene makes me laugh out loud in
<v Speaker 3>both movies. Yes, both of them have the goofy smile,
<v Speaker 3>super happy, their eyes have been opened and now they've
<v Speaker 3>leveled up.
<v Speaker 1>And a coffee coffee yeah black right, Okay, now that's
<v Speaker 1>an important connection, right, both virgins both lose their virginity.
<v Speaker 1>And the other kind of key ingredient that we thought, hey,
<v Speaker 1>this is the right matchup to make is these are
<v Speaker 1>guys who are naive, kind of a fish out of
<v Speaker 1>water circumstance, right, and they both follow the hero's journey.
<v Speaker 1>Arnold goes from his tropical island to the underworld of
<v Speaker 1>La Josh Baskin goes from his suburban ideal life to
<v Speaker 1>the crime ridden streets of New York City. Another fantastic scene,
<v Speaker 1>by the way, where Tom Hanks is terrified and crying
<v Speaker 1>in bed after he uses his man body to shove
<v Speaker 1>the dresser in front of the door right door.
<v Speaker 3>The guy's speaking loud in Spanish outside my door scares me.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, this both of so these movies are related. I
<v Speaker 1>mean not just in premise. Yeah, but these both of
<v Speaker 1>these movies were the People's Choice Awards winners, both winners
<v Speaker 1>they tied for the Favorite Comedy Motion Picture of nineteen
<v Speaker 1>eighty eight.
<v Speaker 3>Absolutely, people love this movie.
<v Speaker 1>There are two huge comedies that are definitely related. And
<v Speaker 1>it's just that I can't, for the life of me,
<v Speaker 1>I can't figure out how Twins is even close to
<v Speaker 1>being in the same category with me. You've noticed logic.
<v Speaker 3>So here's the deal. When they were filming Twins, they
<v Speaker 3>knew they had a hit. When the crew would sit around,
<v Speaker 3>they want dailies, and everybody would laugh at the dailies,
<v Speaker 3>so they found it funny at the time. I thought
<v Speaker 3>it was funny at the time. Yeah, this is not
<v Speaker 3>sitting well with you though.
<v Speaker 1>Well, and here's the thing. You and I kind of
<v Speaker 1>talked about this. It seems like for the movies of
<v Speaker 1>the eighties. I guess this isn't true for my kids.
<v Speaker 1>So maybe it's either you're a kid when you see it,
<v Speaker 1>or you were a kid when you saw it for
<v Speaker 1>the first time. Sure like if you missed the boat
<v Speaker 1>on Twins in nineteen eighty eight as an adult, I
<v Speaker 1>don't think you're going to enjoy it because I tried
<v Speaker 1>real hard and I just didn't.
<v Speaker 3>You and I talked about this. Yeah, there's something very
<v Speaker 3>important about the age you are and your expectation level
<v Speaker 3>when you see.
<v Speaker 1>Something right, and I mean, and it's it's not as
<v Speaker 1>though I don't enjoy even older movies, like movies from
<v Speaker 1>the seventies and the sixties and fifties. I mean, we
<v Speaker 1>freakly covered M M and Psycho, which was nineteen thirty one,
<v Speaker 1>and I was captivated. I was absolutely captivated. And it
<v Speaker 1>was in a foreign language. For going to sake, I
<v Speaker 1>don't know. There's just something about so far my experience
<v Speaker 1>has been if I missed the boat, I don't love it, right,
<v Speaker 1>I didn't. I like Predator, but there were definitely moments
<v Speaker 1>in I had more laugh out loud moments and Predator
<v Speaker 1>than I did in Twins. And the laugh out loud
<v Speaker 1>moments were like the ridiculousness of the explosions and the
<v Speaker 1>guy the body's flying and the you are one ugly yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
<v Speaker 1>that part was actually kind of funny. So it's interesting,
<v Speaker 1>you know, it's weird for me to say that being
<v Speaker 1>the host of an eighties movie podcast, But I think
<v Speaker 1>there is definitely something to be said about if you
<v Speaker 1>didn't catch it when it was in the eighties or
<v Speaker 1>when you were a kid.
<v Speaker 3>It may not hate you, right, Okay, now listen to this. Yeah,
<v Speaker 3>you almost get your wish here. Because they had a
<v Speaker 3>sequel in mind for twins, right, called triplets yep, And
<v Speaker 3>for the longest time, like ten years, Eddie Murphy was
<v Speaker 3>attached to play the third brother.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.
<v Speaker 3>I watched it an interview with Arnold Schwarzeneker. He was
<v Speaker 3>talking about how this is what was in the script.
<v Speaker 3>Mary Anne Benedict dies, Julius and Vincent find out who
<v Speaker 3>gets the money in the will, and she names a
<v Speaker 3>third brother and they find out it's Eddie Murphy. I mean, hilarious, right,
<v Speaker 3>great premise.
<v Speaker 1>Sure.
<v Speaker 3>Now I don't know about the execution. But after about
<v Speaker 3>ten years, Eddie Murphy drops out. Then Tracy Morgan steps in,
<v Speaker 3>uh huh, and Tracy Morgan not quite as funny, but
<v Speaker 3>still good, right okay, And they were getting ready, they
<v Speaker 3>were all ready to go, and then Ivan rightman died.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Tragic.
<v Speaker 3>So I don't know if we'll ever get triplets.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, maybe, Okay. So in addition to obviously being people's
<v Speaker 1>choice for Comedy Award and being a box office powerhouse.
<v Speaker 1>Twins Yeah, two hundred million dollars. Yeah, I mean, I
<v Speaker 1>double big. I obviously have got the wrong perspective on
<v Speaker 1>this movie. I don't know how I'm missing it, but
<v Speaker 1>I'm obviously missing it because it was a monumental success.
<v Speaker 1>And the song Twins from the movie Yeah, performed by
<v Speaker 1>Philip Bailey and Little Richard himself. Oh yeah, hit number
<v Speaker 1>eighty two on the Hot one hundred what Yeah, the song,
<v Speaker 1>I guess I don't. I don't even it has to
<v Speaker 1>be because of the movie, because I can't, I mean,
<v Speaker 1>the Twins. Would you have even known that that was
<v Speaker 1>a song before we did this?
<v Speaker 3>No?
<v Speaker 1>No, no, But at that point, people loved it so
<v Speaker 1>much that they even went out and bought the album.
<v Speaker 3>Both of these movies for the record beat Diehard at
<v Speaker 3>the box office, which alone is a travesty.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah Yeah. The composers for this one were Jorjes de LaRue,
<v Speaker 1>who has won many many awards for his compositions. Okay,
<v Speaker 1>and also Randy Edelman, who was the composer for mcguyvern. Yeah.
<v Speaker 3>Randy Edelman a good friend.
<v Speaker 1>I got to say. The music on this one is
<v Speaker 1>very eighties and just kind of like it's like they're
<v Speaker 1>trying to I don't know, it's very Ivan, rightman. I
<v Speaker 1>guess it's probably where I would go with this.
<v Speaker 3>Okay, before you leave Twins, there's one piece of music
<v Speaker 3>involved in Twins that I think works magically. It's when
<v Speaker 3>Arnold Schwarzenegger is on the airplane and he starts singing,
<v Speaker 3>yaki yah, don't talk back.
<v Speaker 1>Take out the papers and the trash, or you don't
<v Speaker 1>get no spending cash if you and don't scrap that
<v Speaker 1>kitchen floor. You ain't gonna rock and roar no more
<v Speaker 1>yak the yak, don't talk back.
<v Speaker 3>It's funny that people love that moment in the theater.
<v Speaker 1>What I thought was hilarious about that moment is when
<v Speaker 1>the flight attendant comes to talk to him, he can't
<v Speaker 1>stop looking at her boobs, just like just like Josh Baskin.
<v Speaker 3>In Big Sorry, I have never heard rock and roll before.
<v Speaker 1>So cinematographer, this one is a guy named Andras bar Tucklewick.
<v Speaker 1>It's easy for you to say, okay. He is famous
<v Speaker 1>for exit wounds and speed and doom. Okay, sure, all right?
<v Speaker 1>That brings us back over to Big, where our cinematographer
<v Speaker 1>is a Kai. We've just talked about Barry Sonefeld. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>so Barry Sonefeld was the cinematographer for Raising Arizona by
<v Speaker 1>the Coen Brothers. Steve, of course, goes on to do
<v Speaker 1>many Big things, including Men in Black. As I was
<v Speaker 1>watching Big Again, I'm thinking to myself, there is a
<v Speaker 1>style that Penny Marshall has that is very reminiscent of
<v Speaker 1>her former husband Rob Reiner. They both have a warm
<v Speaker 1>feel to what they are filming that I think paints
<v Speaker 1>a very pleasing picture. It's the perfect for a feel
<v Speaker 1>good movie.
<v Speaker 3>Think about Rob Ryaner in eighty seven, he does Princess Bride. Yeah,
<v Speaker 3>one of the best movies in these Yes, Penny Marshall
<v Speaker 3>turns around, does Big one of the most revered.
<v Speaker 1>Movies in the nineteen eighties. Yes, it's a.
<v Speaker 3>Pretty good one too, Combo a couple of years, Yeah,
<v Speaker 3>not to mention stand by Me.
<v Speaker 1>And exactly Yeah, and Awaken, I mean a league of
<v Speaker 1>their own. These those two have done some phenomenal movies,
<v Speaker 1>no question about it, no question about it. With Big Again,
<v Speaker 1>this is where it comes back up. I told you
<v Speaker 1>Ivan rightman partnered up with a guy on Broadway to
<v Speaker 1>do a Broadway musical before he hit it big as
<v Speaker 1>a film producer and director. The guy he partnered up
<v Speaker 1>with was Howard Shore.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, there you go.
<v Speaker 1>Was the composer for Lord of the Rings, along with
<v Speaker 1>a billion other things, including Big. He was the composer
<v Speaker 1>for Big, and I felt like the music in Big
<v Speaker 1>was so much better and so well placed. You just
<v Speaker 1>I mean, if you just alone, you just think about
<v Speaker 1>the music that was the key theme for the Zoltar machine.
<v Speaker 1>You hear that, and you and you know, oh, okay,
<v Speaker 1>there's something going on with the machine. And he just
<v Speaker 1>gives you that little cue that's mysterious and a bit
<v Speaker 1>you know, foreign and magical, because if you think about that,
<v Speaker 1>this movie is about one magic moment that they don't
<v Speaker 1>have to explain any further. We know the video game
<v Speaker 1>is what caused it. Yep. The video game is what
<v Speaker 1>fixes it, yep. Everything else they are dealing with it
<v Speaker 1>as if it is absolutely really happening. You know, It's
<v Speaker 1>not like you've got this big, ridiculous premise like a
<v Speaker 1>father and son twitching bodies and they don't explain. It's
<v Speaker 1>like you have a terrified twelve year old kid in
<v Speaker 1>the body of a thirty year old adult. They both
<v Speaker 1>he and his best friend know the solution. They've got
<v Speaker 1>to find the game again and remake the wish. And
<v Speaker 1>then what do they do. They have to go and
<v Speaker 1>look at video game stores, and then the video game
<v Speaker 1>guys obviously are like, well, you need to go to
<v Speaker 1>this you know, government office, and they can tell you
<v Speaker 1>when the affair was there and the games were there.
<v Speaker 1>And the ladies like, fill this out and triplicate and
<v Speaker 1>we'll take a month to process and we'll let you
<v Speaker 1>know in six weeks. Six weeks. Yeah, if you're lucky. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>I mean that's real. That's government work right there. That's real.
<v Speaker 3>Here's the other thing along with that idea. Okay, we
<v Speaker 3>talked last episode about the alternate universe where there's a
<v Speaker 3>Mel Gibson movie where he's investigating the kidnapped child in
<v Speaker 3>Big I would also propose that there's a missing movie
<v Speaker 3>where Billy realizes that Josh got his wish ranted by
<v Speaker 3>this machine. And while Josh is, you know, going back
<v Speaker 3>home playing stickball and saying hi to mom, Billy's there
<v Speaker 3>going I want a billion dollars you know, or Elizabeth
<v Speaker 3>Perkins's character Susan decides she wants to pursue Josh, and
<v Speaker 3>there is rumors that they actually filmed this ending. I
<v Speaker 3>couldn't find it anywhere where she would then wish to
<v Speaker 3>be young. And actually the rumors are that they shot
<v Speaker 3>this ending where Josh is back in school and the
<v Speaker 3>teacher says, class, we have a new student. Her name
<v Speaker 3>is Susan and she walks in a little girl.
<v Speaker 1>Little girl in pigtails. Yeah. I'm so glad that they
<v Speaker 1>didn't do that. That would have been too Hollywood. It
<v Speaker 1>would have The ending of this movie where she sees
<v Speaker 1>him walking away and shrinking down to young Josh in
<v Speaker 1>the suit is heartbreaking. And I think her explanation of
<v Speaker 1>that was that was a hard time to go through
<v Speaker 1>and I don't want to go through that hard time again.
<v Speaker 1>It needs to stay that way. Now. They did make
<v Speaker 1>a movie. They made a movie called Little in twenty nineteen.
<v Speaker 1>What yep. They made a movie and a woman is
<v Speaker 1>transformed into the younger version of herself when the pressures
<v Speaker 1>of adulthood become too much to bear, and its stars
<v Speaker 1>Regina Hall and Isa Ray both great actresses, but it
<v Speaker 1>was not a success at all. It is a got
<v Speaker 1>a five point five.
<v Speaker 3>Okay, I've got some tidbits for you.
<v Speaker 1>Okay, you're ready for excited for the tidbits, let me
<v Speaker 1>hit it.
<v Speaker 3>Okay, all right, what do you want?
<v Speaker 1>First?
<v Speaker 3>You want twins? Do you want big?
<v Speaker 1>Let's go back to twins?
<v Speaker 2>All right, So.
<v Speaker 3>I got some tidbits for you on twins.
<v Speaker 1>There you go.
<v Speaker 3>We talked about how Arnold Schwarzenegger did this money with
<v Speaker 3>no salary. Dany Vito no salary, I Evan Riving, no salary,
<v Speaker 3>and Arnold Schwarzenegger made thirty five million dollars on this movie.
<v Speaker 1>Right, okay?
<v Speaker 3>Now, Then he and Danny DeVito and Ivan Rightman went
<v Speaker 3>on to make the movie Junior. Have you ever seen
<v Speaker 3>that one?
<v Speaker 1>No?
<v Speaker 3>I haven't either. I have really no desire to see
<v Speaker 3>that one now about a man getting pregnant?
<v Speaker 1>Yep, I'm out.
<v Speaker 3>But here's the deal. They were filming that movie, and
<v Speaker 3>they would constantly play practical jokes on each other, Arnold
<v Speaker 3>and Danny DeVito. So they had filmed this scene. Working
<v Speaker 3>on this scene in the morning, and they broke for
<v Speaker 3>lunch break, and during their lunch break, Danny DeVito came
<v Speaker 3>to Arnold and said, you know, Arnold, you always give
<v Speaker 3>me cigars. I've got a special suit for you, give
<v Speaker 3>Smith's cigar. Arnold's like, great, this is awesome, thank you
<v Speaker 3>very much, smokes it and when he goes back he
<v Speaker 3>gets there and Ivan Ryman is like, okay, ready action
<v Speaker 3>and Arnold's like.
<v Speaker 1>What's my line?
<v Speaker 3>I can't remember my line. He's like, don't you remember
<v Speaker 3>this is the scene we're working for before lunch. It's this, this,
<v Speaker 3>and this. Yeah, He's like, we were working on a
<v Speaker 3>scene before lunch.
<v Speaker 1>What are you talking about?
<v Speaker 3>Couldn't remember anything? Okay, not not the situation, not the scene,
<v Speaker 3>not the line. Well, it turns out Danny Dibto gave
<v Speaker 3>him lots of marijuana pumped into that cigar.
<v Speaker 1>Ah, I gotcha.
<v Speaker 3>So Arnold was stoned.
<v Speaker 1>Gotcha?
<v Speaker 3>Okay, let's talk about the Rambo poster. As Julius is
<v Speaker 3>walking around Lay, he sees a poster Rambo Part three,
<v Speaker 3>which came out.
<v Speaker 1>The summer of eighty eight, looks at his arms.
<v Speaker 3>Miday's arms. Ah kind of waves him off. That is
<v Speaker 3>in reference to a rivalry that Stallone and Schwarzenegger had
<v Speaker 3>in the eighties. YEP, and actually it came to a
<v Speaker 3>head on Stopper My Mom.
<v Speaker 1>Will Shoot Franks, Yes, Franks. Yeah. So I mentioned in
<v Speaker 1>our last episode that one of the writers for this
<v Speaker 1>movie for Twins was William Davies. He also co wrote
<v Speaker 1>Stopper My Mom Will Shoot with author and famous Save
<v Speaker 1>the Cat guy Blake Snyder, which is also notorious for
<v Speaker 1>being one of the worst movies of all time, came
<v Speaker 1>out in nineteen ninety two at Sylvester Stallone and Estelle
<v Speaker 1>Getty from The Golden Girls. Right, But how did still
<v Speaker 1>Sylvester Stallone decide to do this obviously awful movie.
<v Speaker 3>It was offered to Arnold Schwarzenegger and he kind of
<v Speaker 3>feigned interest in it, and so Stallone got into that
<v Speaker 3>and jumped on it. It was the old Whoopsie do
<v Speaker 3>head faith Yeah, and Tchroizenegger thought this is gonna tank,
<v Speaker 3>So I'll fake like I'm interested in it, He'll do it,
<v Speaker 3>and it'll tank, and then I'll rise because he's taken.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and it worked, Yeah until Junior came out two
<v Speaker 1>years later. Oh my God, followed not too long after
<v Speaker 1>by Last Action Hero.
<v Speaker 3>We're gonna talk about Last Action here. I think this
<v Speaker 3>summer are we yeah, went wrong, And actually that's not
<v Speaker 3>really even the low point of Arn's career. Batman and
<v Speaker 3>Robin one of the worst movies of the nineties.
<v Speaker 1>So as I was watching Twins and he's like he
<v Speaker 1>They've just got their matching suits, and he's like, do
<v Speaker 1>I look cool now, And Danny Deavita's.
<v Speaker 3>Like, mister Ice, yeah, yeah.
<v Speaker 1>And I sent you a little gift of the Iceman
<v Speaker 1>come with mister Freeze. Yeah, whosh, bad stuff.
<v Speaker 3>Danny DeVito played the penguin in Batman Returns.
<v Speaker 1>That's right.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, two Batman villains there.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but mister Freeze is definitely the worst. Yeah. But
<v Speaker 1>he also made twenty million dollars for that movie up
<v Speaker 1>front at.
<v Speaker 3>Half on the back end front Twins, yeah, right, at
<v Speaker 3>the end of this movie, he bought the entire crew
<v Speaker 3>the born to Be Bad t shirt.
<v Speaker 1>That's fantastic, right. Yeah.
<v Speaker 3>And actually the scene where he's learning to dance from
<v Speaker 3>Danny DeVito.
<v Speaker 1>Next to my feet, not on them.
<v Speaker 3>There's another big movie in eighty eight where a man
<v Speaker 3>teaches another man to slow dance. Came out right about
<v Speaker 3>the same time. Rain Man, Right, Cruise and Dustin pfla.
<v Speaker 1>Hi sportship for that one too, I think so yeah
<v Speaker 1>in the winter awesome.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, all right, so that's it on my tidbits for twins.
<v Speaker 1>Okay, tut, you got on Big flipping back to Big.
<v Speaker 2>They are Josh basket. Remember you broke your arm on
<v Speaker 2>my roof in my basement with Robert your hand. You look,
<v Speaker 2>get it to you.
<v Speaker 3>This is important, Okay. So I thought this was fascinating.
<v Speaker 3>The way Penny Marshall film Big. She would tell the
<v Speaker 3>scene to David Moscow, he would act it out as
<v Speaker 3>best he could. Then he would step aside, and then
<v Speaker 3>Tom Hanks would act it out and he would base
<v Speaker 3>adult Josh actions on David Moscow's performance.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's a great method. Yep.
<v Speaker 3>The corn thing was absolute improv. Tom Hanks eating baby
<v Speaker 3>corn just a little bit like the kernels.
<v Speaker 1>I mean the baby corn is one, but I mean
<v Speaker 1>the the caviar and he eats the caviar and he
<v Speaker 1>takes it out of his mouth. I mean, again, a
<v Speaker 1>perfect moment, a perfect This is what a twelve year.
<v Speaker 3>Old that's yesh. He's throwing it on the floor and coughing,
<v Speaker 3>and then the whole time Elizabeth Perkins is throwing herself
<v Speaker 3>at him while he's gagging on this food.
<v Speaker 1>I thought that was kind of weird.
<v Speaker 3>Okay, the shimmy shimmy coca pop rap that they say
<v Speaker 3>to each other or I don't know if you call it.
<v Speaker 1>Rapper shimmy shimi coca pop sh shimmy rap. Go ahead.
<v Speaker 3>Tom Hanks got that his son had been at summer
<v Speaker 3>camp came back and he had a variation of.
<v Speaker 1>That, probably calling right.
<v Speaker 3>Probably was, yeah, And they wrote the own lyrics for that,
<v Speaker 3>but they used the shimmy shumy coca pop from that song.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, what song is? What's the song called?
<v Speaker 3>So apparently the shimmy shimmy cocoa pop song lyrics comes
<v Speaker 3>from a nineteen fifty nine song Little Anthony and the Imperials,
<v Speaker 3>and they pulled that from the fifties. Okay, it's a
<v Speaker 3>real song, all right, Oh, all right, My last little
<v Speaker 3>tidbit for you, okay that I am excited to drop
<v Speaker 3>on you.
<v Speaker 1>Okay, Okay.
<v Speaker 3>The amusement park at the end is what they call
<v Speaker 3>Playland in Rye.
<v Speaker 1>New York. Okay, okay.
<v Speaker 3>This location is also used in Mariah Carey's fantasy video
<v Speaker 3>Wow your favorite Artist Mariah.
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<v Speaker 1>Patreon advertisement with my with Mariah Carey as the premise.
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<v Speaker 1>of infamous songs of the eighties and maybe seventies and
<v Speaker 1>maybe nineties.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, including all I Went for Christmas is stop.
<v Speaker 1>People will not sign up if you tell them that.
<v Speaker 3>Okay, So the I've got a question for you. Okay,
<v Speaker 3>we really need to answer this big question. Yep, your
<v Speaker 3>adult Josh, you have skipped middle school, you have skipped
<v Speaker 3>high school and college. You are now an important executive.
<v Speaker 3>You're making great money. You have this wonderful Manhattan penthouse
<v Speaker 3>apartment with the trampoline and Space Invaders and a coke
<v Speaker 3>machine where you don't need any coins. You got a
<v Speaker 3>girlfriend who's super cute and you are killing it.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.
<v Speaker 3>Do you go back to your house and mom and
<v Speaker 3>dad and the crocodile hats.
<v Speaker 1>In a heartbeat?
<v Speaker 3>Okay?
<v Speaker 1>Tell me why? In a harby because because Mom and
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to get too personal. But in nineteen
<v Speaker 1>eighty eight, I lost my mom, right, And so you
<v Speaker 1>mentioned before that one of your big problems with the
<v Speaker 1>movie is that this mom is in hell without him,
<v Speaker 1>and I mentioned she's the first person that he goes
<v Speaker 1>to whenever this problem happens, because it's a problem, it's
<v Speaker 1>a wish come true, that is a curse. And so
<v Speaker 1>the first person when he can't fix it himself, first
<v Speaker 1>person he goes to is mom. And obviously she doesn't
<v Speaker 1>get it, and that's the problem. But there's no way
<v Speaker 1>he would and there's no way I would leave my
<v Speaker 1>mom in hell wondering what happened to me too important?
<v Speaker 1>I mean, yeah, hooking up with the hot girl at
<v Speaker 1>work and the cool apartment and all of that stuff
<v Speaker 1>is stuff I dreamed of as a young twelve year old.
<v Speaker 3>But you go back tomorrow, Yep, I agree with you.
<v Speaker 3>That's great, that's great.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, all right.
<v Speaker 3>Now, then you're on Schwarzenegger. You've been raised on a
<v Speaker 3>perfect island. You go see the big city in La.
<v Speaker 3>You meet your brother, Yeah, you marry a beautiful woman.
<v Speaker 3>You have twins, yeah, you raise them in La. Do
<v Speaker 3>you go back to the island?
<v Speaker 1>Take Kelly Preston back to the island, start a nudist colony. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>I mean, heck, yeah, I'm going yes, yes, yes, I
<v Speaker 1>told you my biggest problem with the island because we
<v Speaker 1>really don't know that much about it. But I mean
<v Speaker 1>the idea of, hey, I get all of my needs
<v Speaker 1>provided for, right, I've got all the physical training I need,
<v Speaker 1>the perfect diet, I can study whatever I want to study,
<v Speaker 1>all that stuff. The biggest problem is he's gotten nobody
<v Speaker 1>to talk to. I don't have Adjason Colvin to go
<v Speaker 1>talk to all my stuff. Yeah, it's not paradise, right. Yeah.
<v Speaker 1>So if you're bringing back Kelly Preston and we can
<v Speaker 1>talk stuff together and make twins throughout the years, yeah,
<v Speaker 1>go back to the island and bring a friend.
<v Speaker 3>With you, grab your brother and his family, grab your family,
<v Speaker 3>go back to the island.
<v Speaker 1>Exactly.
<v Speaker 3>I agree with you on that. All right, are we
<v Speaker 3>ready for final judgment?
<v Speaker 1>Let's do it, final judgment.
<v Speaker 3>Okay, we already know where you stand, so go ahead.
<v Speaker 1>I was gonna say, I haven't kept it a secret.
<v Speaker 1>I didn't see Twins in the eighties, and I think
<v Speaker 1>that's a big problem for enjoying the movie because going
<v Speaker 1>back and watching it and not having seen it, I
<v Speaker 1>did not like it. I didn't think it was funny.
<v Speaker 1>A couple of chuckle moments. The highlight is Kelly Preston,
<v Speaker 1>and that is all this movie has to offer for me.
<v Speaker 1>I will say, Kindergarten Cop the next Ivan Rightman Arnold
<v Speaker 1>Swarzenegger matchup, I think is absolutely fantastic. It's funny. I
<v Speaker 1>think they did it right by not making him kind
<v Speaker 1>of goofy and naive, but making him a tough cop
<v Speaker 1>who has to deal with a comedic situation. I thought
<v Speaker 1>it was great, loved it, would watch it over and
<v Speaker 1>over again. But again, I saw that one in the
<v Speaker 1>theater when it came out big. I did see in
<v Speaker 1>the theater, and I have loved from the first day
<v Speaker 1>I saw it till now. It is a perfectly made movie,
<v Speaker 1>and it is miles and miles away my first choice
<v Speaker 1>over Twins.
<v Speaker 3>Awesome. All right, So I think that's interesting. Again, it
<v Speaker 3>matters when you see it, it matters. Nostalgic matters, right, Yeah.
<v Speaker 3>When I think about these two movies, I saw both
<v Speaker 3>in the theater. I had warm memories about both of them.
<v Speaker 3>So when I go back and revisit, I watch Twins
<v Speaker 3>and it's cute, and I like the joke between Schwartzenegger
<v Speaker 3>and Danny DeVito. I mean, you have to have some
<v Speaker 3>sort of liking to that premise or the whole movies
<v Speaker 3>in the tank, and I think it's a great premise.
<v Speaker 3>I think it's funny. The little brother who came out
<v Speaker 3>as the crap from the milkshake, right, that's all funny. Yeah,
<v Speaker 3>great premise. When I went back and watched Big, I
<v Speaker 3>told you both of these movies were sort of off
<v Speaker 3>Bull's Eye for me. Right, I liked him, I didn't
<v Speaker 3>love him at the time. Diehard blew my socks off?
<v Speaker 3>So where did these movies stand in comparison to that?
<v Speaker 3>It was no contest. But now that I'm a father,
<v Speaker 3>I'm an adult, Big is just so darn charming and
<v Speaker 3>so fun. I have my issues with it, mainly because
<v Speaker 3>Mercedes rules character is just absolutely in torment for six weeks.
<v Speaker 3>But it's Big all day, every day, one hundred percent
<v Speaker 3>of the time.
<v Speaker 1>Nice. Wow, Yeah, Hey we agree. I really thought I
<v Speaker 1>didn't think that that was what was going to happen.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, absolutely, last Yeah, I love Big.
<v Speaker 1>So what about Twins?
<v Speaker 3>I like it. I love Kelly Preston. She looks absolutely
<v Speaker 3>stunning in this movie.
<v Speaker 1>Kind of beating that over the head. Haven't we.
<v Speaker 3>The highlight?
<v Speaker 1>You know? It is the highlight.
<v Speaker 3>It is the highlight. Yeah, And I'll say this, Arnold
<v Speaker 3>Schwarzenegger looks great. He is at his mister Olympia best
<v Speaker 3>in this.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.
<v Speaker 3>And he's funny. It's just a one jug movie and
<v Speaker 3>it's cute. I would say Twins good, big better and
<v Speaker 3>Diehard great and die Hard great.
<v Speaker 1>Yes, it's hilarious. Well, Shirley fans, tell us what you think.
<v Speaker 1>What do you pick on these? What are your nostalgia
<v Speaker 1>memories of these? Are you at this point wanting to
<v Speaker 1>go back and watch them with your own kids, because
<v Speaker 1>there's a good chance that your kids are gonna like them.
<v Speaker 1>So tell us what you think. Hit us up on Facebook,
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<v Speaker 1>got a shout out to Kevin Davis right now. Okay, yes,
<v Speaker 1>so Kevin Davis gives us a review basically every time
<v Speaker 1>we release a new set of episodes. I love it.
<v Speaker 1>I love hearing what he has. I's a Patreon member
<v Speaker 1>and he one of his hobbies. He's an engineer, but
<v Speaker 1>one of his hobbies is to design guitars like to like.
<v Speaker 1>He paints them and makes them beautiful. And I had
<v Speaker 1>this kind of old guitar that I thought, oh, let
<v Speaker 1>you know, hey, Kevin, would you be interested in doing this?
<v Speaker 1>And he's like, oh, yeah, I love it. It is my thing.
<v Speaker 1>And he has ripped his hair out trying to make
<v Speaker 1>this thing work. But it's such a piece of crap
<v Speaker 1>car that he's just like, Okay, so I just bought
<v Speaker 1>you a new guitar and I'm going to design that
<v Speaker 1>for you. And I was like, great, that's fantastic, let's
<v Speaker 1>just do that. So shout out to Kevin Davis. I
<v Speaker 1>truly appreciate your brother. It is great too. I see
<v Speaker 1>him frequently when I go to study my stuff for
<v Speaker 1>the podcast. I'm in a restaurant and he'll show up
<v Speaker 1>and I'll end up talking to him all the time.
<v Speaker 3>Kevin, we really do appreciate you. I'd love to be
<v Speaker 3>joining these days. And thank you for your constant reviews.
<v Speaker 3>I love seeing those two.
<v Speaker 1>He told me that he and James Buckley are now
<v Speaker 1>close friends on Facebook.
<v Speaker 3>Oh that's great, that's great. Okay, let me tell you
<v Speaker 3>what we've got next next week with our buddy Dale
<v Speaker 3>Selby Patreon. Dal Selby, You're diving into poisons. Open up
<v Speaker 3>and say ah sweet CD.
<v Speaker 1>Another nineteen eighty eight Memory for Me for Sure.
<v Speaker 3>Released May third, nineteen eighty eight. Big songs Nothing but
<v Speaker 3>a Good Time, Fallen Angel and of course every Rose
<v Speaker 3>has its still come back next week. It's gonna be fun.
<v Speaker 1>Thanks guys,