Marlins RP Tyler Phillips on dugouts calling pitches + Baseball/softball player/coach Sarah Edwards

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Speaker 1: Marlin's reliever Tyler Phillips with us right now. Wow, great hat dude.

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Speaker 2: How you doing on the ship. I'm the captain now, Captain Phillips, you know.

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Speaker 3: So good as looking for his prop too, I'm looking for mine.

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Speaker 4: I don't I think I got rid of it. Actually I think I got rid of it. I threw it away.

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Speaker 1: Guys, it's great to have you. Did you just have that sitting around? Or is this part of like a are they doing a giveaway?

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Speaker 5: It was yesterday that a give away. I like to grab them. I have like four of them in my locker right now.

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Speaker 2: Wow.

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Speaker 6: Is it a yacht rock? Was it yacht rock Day?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? It was yacht rock Day? Smart man, yacht rock Day.

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Speaker 6: Who's your favorite yacht rocker?

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Speaker 3: H m hm.

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Speaker 2: Honestly, I don't know. Does John Mayer count? Like he doesn't even count.

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Speaker 6: Slap yourself, slap yourself.

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Speaker 7: He slaps himself to get ready. That's not a punishment.

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Speaker 6: I don't know. He needs to learn these things. He needs to learn if you're going to.

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Speaker 2: Rock the hat rock, that's what he is. That's me.

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Speaker 4: You got at least know Christopher Cross, I mean, come on, I mean he's in every song.

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Speaker 2: I know, I know, you put me on the spot. You put me on the spot.

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Speaker 4: Kenny Loggins was a yacht rocker before he became popular.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's on me.

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Speaker 1: Sorry, guys, you're good, You're good, You're young, and you're a little busy right now. So tell us what's going on. How is the team looking? And yes, I want to know about any runnings you've had with Joe Mack. Did you spend time with him in spring training at all?

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Speaker 5: I spent a lot of time with Joe. He actually he caught every one of my bullpends off. He's not forced him to, obviously, when you're up here, like you you know what's going on down the lower levels, you know who's good.

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Speaker 2: It's huge prosper act.

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Speaker 5: So once I met him at I met him at my gym in the off season, and I just told him, hey, like, you're probably gonna be up at some point soon, so you're going to catch me every time, like I don't care.

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Speaker 2: Like Liam Hicks was there too, but he's seen me.

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Speaker 5: Uh So I wanted to get Joe acclaman and he always answered the call early in the morning. He was there catching me and uh did everything I asked, so unbelievable worker, like hard worker. I heard that he needs to work on his communication skills when it comes to answering the phone.

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Speaker 2: I'm surprised he even made it here today.

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Speaker 5: But uh yeah, he's He's been great so far, and I think he has a good understanding for me at least.

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Speaker 3: Well, tell us more about the communication skills. It totally just ambushed my real question, Like he doesn't answer his phone.

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Speaker 2: I heard that that.

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Speaker 5: I heard that he would have been probably called up three years ago if he would be answering his phone more.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's three.

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Speaker 6: I mean, what is he is?

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Speaker 2: He is?

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Speaker 3: He does he live in the eighties, Like like it's not like you have to call like a low hotel phone.

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Speaker 7: He just doesn't.

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Speaker 2: I think he's I think he's a big gamer man.

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Speaker 5: I think he likes to likes to play the game here and there, a game that I don't agree with. But you know that's a that's that's a different story. I think he just like, isn't good on his phone, is what I heard. He always answered me, so I had no issue with him.

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Speaker 3: Okay, so so you guys were at Kressy. I'm assuming with my guy Jake Bruno and and Liam Hicks was there.

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Speaker 5: Dude, Jake Bruno, that's a name right there. He's my triple A bullpen catcher. Love that guy.

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Speaker 6: Bruno.

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Speaker 3: Bruno's the assistant coach at the high school that I coach at. So Bruno's my my guy. He was down at Kressey with you. What does all of that mean for a young guy like Joe Mack or even a guy like it's not like Liam Hicks is like a you know, Cagy Vett. What does it mean to be around those kinds of guys in the offseason? Do you think that increases their level of readiness for when they get to the big leagues or is it just kind of like, well that's what everybody does now, they go to Kressy and around everybody.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I think for sure it increases it from the standpoint of like you're around season vets. You know, like some of the big names that are there early in the morning. I mean, you got Sures or of Berland or all these guys. I think Joe caught a few of them. But you can't show up late, you can't mess around, like those guys are very meticulous about what they're trying to do with their craft and their bullpens as well, and there's constant communication between the catchers and all the all the pitchers thrown in there. So I think it just gives you a little bit more sense of like being comfortable once you get here. I know that's I know that could be controversial, like people don't like it's the big leagues.

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Speaker 2: You have to earn it.

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Speaker 5: But I do want my catcher to show up and not be timid, and I want him to come to me and try to ask me what pictures I'm looking for and what my tendencies are. So I think being around those guys and just catching bullpens constantly throughout the day and hearing all of these different ideas from guys, I think that it's super valuable for them.

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Speaker 1: Thoughts on when when you're talking to a catcher and communicating with one during this time period now with the Marlins, how he's getting calls from the dugout. How does that whole process work when a guy is coming up here now for the first time.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's that's a different one man, Because in between innings, I tend to go to the coach. Now, Rob in there and I'll just ask him about calls and I'll tell him what I was thinking. But it's really good when the catcher, if he's not up to bad obviously, it's really good that they get into that conversation as well, and we just kind of spit all together because at the end of the day, like the coach, Rob, he's gonna he's gonna put his suggestion down, Catcher's gonna call it. And if I'm shaking, like with the pitch clock now, like I need those guys to be on the same page as me and know who I'm who I'm going to be throwing the curveball to. Let's say so, it's a lot of a lot of conversation, but the catchers and Rob are talking constantly. I'll talk with them, Like even Ramirez yesterday, like he came out he was hitting.

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Speaker 2: He said, hey, I don't know what you and Rob talked about, but what do you want to do here?

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Speaker 5: So, I mean it's it's a little different, but uh, Robing them are always they're always on top of it.

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Speaker 6: Tyler's that way.

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Speaker 4: You have an Apple Watch on so you can get the calls right now, so you can get the steps. Oh so still a curveball, So still a curveball here.

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Speaker 5: Just I've been asked, I've been asking them to give me my own PitchCom but yeah, I should just use this right.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you could do like college where all the college kids have the wristband and they just all go like this all the time, and they're like.

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Speaker 2: Oh, herdball.

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Speaker 6: Okay. That's maybe changs a lot, which is fine.

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Speaker 4: But I find it interesting that Ramiro just they had to come ask you what you and the coach talked about. Now he's in triple A, so maybe you should have questions.

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Speaker 2: That is a tough one. I think he was.

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Speaker 5: I think he was on deck or up the back, and I think he saw me go over and talk to him. I just had some questions about some ideas that I had during a net bat.

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Speaker 2: I think ultimately I agreed with what Rob was calling, but.

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Speaker 5: I gave him what my backup plan would have been, and I just wanted to see what he thought and why he went to something, because I'm I'm constantly trying to learn myself, and you know, it's.

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Speaker 2: It could be as simple as I do. I don't know that was your fifth pitch, like I don't.

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Speaker 5: I don't think you should be going out there and throwing Bryce Harper your your forcing fastball, which is metrically not great, and it's your fifth pitch.

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Speaker 2: I want you to go get him with your best stuff.

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Speaker 5: So you know, there could be a little overthinking on my end, But like I said, there's conversations. A lot of it happens with the pitchers and Rob now and Rob will talked with the catchers as well, but if they're around, it's a it's a three way talk.

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Speaker 3: Have you ever come out of the bullpen and been like, man, I just I don't I don't really feel like I'm spinning my curveball.

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Speaker 7: Well, I don't feel like the ball's coming out?

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Speaker 3: Well yes or no?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: I have yeah, okay, so do you have a do you have a signal? Do you have a signal to the bench guys for seamer no bueno today?

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Speaker 7: Like, how do they know? All they're going is by paper?

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Speaker 3: Says his four steamers was hit up and away to Bryce Harper because he can't touch ninety five plus up and away. So we're gonna stay out of here.

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Speaker 7: And you're like, my arm is killing me when I try to extend up and away. Let's go with the curveball. Oh wait, no, pitch clock's over ball one.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's the thing they can get a little finicky with it is obviously they're not the one receiving the ball. I have seen the catchers give them a look and like like no, like I want this one. So like, for example, my splitter one game, it was the only pitch that I had in the zone that was working, and I think they were trying to get to some other pitches and I just I didn't have any of them, and I don't remember who was catching, but I could see them like kind of urging like no, we're gonna go with the splitter regardless.

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Speaker 2: It's not a dictator here.

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Speaker 5: I knew what pitch was working, so I was going to shake to get to that splitter anyway. And whoever it was catching, I think they could sense that as well. So even if I did shake, they were going straight to it and you could see that we were on the same page as well.

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Speaker 2: So so yeah, I mean that is where it gets a little difficult.

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Speaker 5: But I think they also have like in game reports where they can see what pitches in the zone, and like you said before, it's just a little difficult when it comes to the pitch clock now, but again that's on me to have ownership of what I want to throw, and I'm just gonna have to shake.

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Speaker 3: I know we asked you this before, and I'll probably ask you again. The ninth inning doesn't matter. We did a whole segment about the fact that there's less saves across the game now than there ever has been the ninth inning. Are those three outs exactly the same as when you get the same hitters in your lane that the sheet says, Okay, Tyler Films is supposed to come out of the pen, regardless of where Pete are Banks is this is his lane. Is it the same getting those three hitters in the ninth.

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Speaker 2: In I think the sensors are just a little heightened.

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Speaker 5: You can you can like feel that feel that saved under your belt, you know. But I mean, when it comes to me, my role is I'm very I'm a very versatile picture. You know, I've started, I've I've closed, I've been length. We're trying to preach with me is just say, man, like, if it's ten to nothing, if it's if it's a one run game, like you're going out there treating it like it's zero zero. I do think that the adrenaline is through the roof. I mean, I think when we were in La, I came in, Pete had a little issue. I came in basis loaded. He came out with the with the injury. I didn't feel good. I think I was one day off of like forty seven pitches, you know, trying to get out of it, and then through again the next day in the ninth and again arm wasn't feeling great, but the villa was.

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Speaker 2: It was pomping out there.

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Speaker 5: So uh, I think just the fact that the hitters feel it at the end of the game, those guys, like even I it's the heart of the lineup, They're going to try to be a little bit more scrappy.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, like the senses are definitely heightened.

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Speaker 5: But for myself, it's whatever inning is, whether it's the first or the ninth. Like I'm coming in there and treating it like it's the ninth.

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Speaker 3: When they make a closer routine for you because you do close or you do the f you throw the first or the seventh, should you only have that routine when you're out there closing a game. It's only a ninth inning and doors open, you need your routine.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I do the same thing every single day. I'm not a show up late like in the third or fourth inning. Guy, I'm out there first pitch. I start getting ready on the third inning, and you kind of just watch the game.

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Speaker 2: I'll have a general idea.

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Speaker 5: Of what relievers we have that are up and down based off of who through the day before. But you know, I'm like I said, I'm trying to be ready from first pitch on.

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Speaker 2: You never know what's going on. I don't think the routine would change at all.

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Speaker 5: It just the timing of which I do It might be a little different, but yeah, I'm getting going from the third inning on and just doing little things here and there, just staying ready to keep an eye on the game.

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Speaker 2: Grats.

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Speaker 1: I think we might have created it for him too, where it's like you get the I am the captain now line from the movie and then he comes out to whatever, what's your song?

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Speaker 2: It's Mother by Danzig, So there we go.

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Speaker 6: You need to change.

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Speaker 4: You need to go to like smack that or smack my bleep up something like that.

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Speaker 2: That wouldn't be bad.

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Speaker 5: Honestly, I've I've tried to get them to do some like openers before I come out of the gate and put some funny stuff on there.

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Speaker 2: But you know, he can't. He can't really do a lot of the stuff that I want to do, you know, PG.

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Speaker 7: Thirteen choreographed.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, man, I don't like that. I'm so used to the clubhouse. I just want to. I want to. I want to be a little crazy out there. I wish it could be.

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Speaker 1: I wish they could be like, you know, like a quick disclaimer before it starts, like like like old school when you're watching like thebo and they're like, hey, like this content, blah blah blah.

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Speaker 3: Here's they used to have topless dancers. They used to have topless dancers at Loane Depot. If somebody can do it, you know, Tyler Phillips now entering the game, Tyler Phillips and just hear muffs everybody under that.

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Speaker 5: I do have a pretty cool like video that we took on media day where I am slapping myself and then I run past the camera. I don't I don't know if they if they want to show that to children or whatever. I've been trying to talk to them, but honestly, it's not a bad idea.

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Speaker 2: I might I might see if they could put like, hey, you.

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Speaker 5: Know, like a parental advisory thing up on the up on the board. That would be kind of sick, even if it's not for me, even if it's for Pete when he's back.

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Speaker 2: Hey, let's just put that up. I think that's kind of intanmiditing, and.

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Speaker 1: To be honest, I think it would be I really like that. All of that stuff is entertaining now and we need it.

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Speaker 2: We need it.

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Speaker 1: The TV audience too, that's not there, so.

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Speaker 2: Well, good luck that is what goes. We'll be looking for it. Dude. Yeah, we're entertainers. That's what I That's what I want to see.

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Speaker 5: Like we're ball players, but we're also entertainers, so I want it to be fun.

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Speaker 1: I'm glad you understand that that's an important part, and I think we're getting into that more and more as a sport.

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Speaker 2: So keep doing your thing. Captain Phillips, good to see you. Thanks for the time. As always, we appreciate it. Yeah, Sarah appreciate you. Guys.

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Speaker 1: Hey, we're excited for this one. Joining us LIB right now is Sarah Edwards, who has had a really cool journey through the game, and by the game, I mean softball and baseball. Former Phillies coach, also the first woman to be an on field coach in Asian Pro Baseball, among many other accolades. Sarah, it's great to have you on here and thank you for joining us. Can you give our fans like a little more context on your journey through the game so far.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, thank you guys, and nice to mutual.

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Speaker 2: So.

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Speaker 8: I'm from Long Island.

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Speaker 9: I played Division one softball at Buffalo and then at Hopstra and then started my overseas softball journey, got my Italian passport to be on the Italian national team, and played about five years of overseas ball before getting noticed by a Phillies recruiter on LinkedIn because I was doing a lot of coaching in my travels, coaching for the clubs that I was playing for, and just kept my LinkedIn up to date, and that's kind of how I got picked up by them, had my first I'm in pro Ball Pro Baseball with them, and then coached in the Japan Winter League. During that time, I was also a recruitment manager for Baseball Jobs Overseas, which is an online international recruitment service for players and coaches who want to go around the world like I did, and so at the Japan Winter League. That's how I got acquainted with the manager of the CPBC Brothers, and that's how I got the job as a hitting coach in Taiwan.

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Speaker 3: All right, start playing or coaching, because you kind of did both. You play, you coach at the same time. Most people go playing, playing, playing, and then only coaching.

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Speaker 7: And for me, I say, thank.

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Speaker 3: God, I'm not playing anymore because there's a lot going on when I'm playing.

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Speaker 7: But for you, playing or coaching, which is better?

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Speaker 9: Ooh, that's a tough one, I think. I mean, I like bouncing back and forth. I know that that's very unorthodox, but it kind of I just assess whatever opportunities are presented to me at the time and then pick the one that seems more fun. So sometimes that's coaching, sometimes that's playing. But I really enjoy both a lot. I think that going from one to the other makes me better on both sides of it. Like I think having still kind of a player mind makes me a better coach, and also so being able to coach and really keep learning and reinforcing my beliefs makes me a better player when I go back to to strapping the cleats on. So for now, like, I'm turning thirty this year. I'll keep doing it probably for the next couple of years, and then eventually we'll have to be forced to just coach because my body will not be able to handle it anymore.

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Speaker 6: Now, you're still young.

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Speaker 10: Play as long as you can, Play as long as you can. Yeah, so you've been all right, So you've been You've obviously been in the States, and then you've been in Europe and in Asia, so you've seen you've seen our sport in three different really parts of the world. Do you see differences in European baseball and softball and in Asian baseball and then in the States, Like, do you do you see differences between how the countries play and which one would you say you prefer?

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Speaker 9: Of course, Yeah, there's a lot of differences. In Europe, it's very much at an amateur level for the most part, like the local players, unless they're on the national team and have really made a name for themselves in this game, they go to school or they work and then you know, in the European leagues, we play on the weekends to kind of accommodate that.

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Speaker 8: In Asia it's a lot more advanced.

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Speaker 9: It is a professional level, you know, Japan, Korea, Taiwan, but they are technologically a little bit still behind compared to the game in the States. Also, just the players are different. Their style of play is a little bit different. There aren't as many power hitters. There's nobody hitting forty homers in a season, so the game play itself is adjusted for that.

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Speaker 3: And of course, all right, switching from baseball to softball, softball to baseball, is that difficult because I have a seventh grade daughter and I coach my son's high school team, and there's sometimes Now if you remember being a thirteen year old girl, your dad knows nothing. I know nothing, Dad, you don't even know softball, So what are you even talking about?

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Speaker 7: But how hard is that? Like transition back and forth?

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Speaker 9: I think at first I was in denial of it, and I was like, the swing is the swing. It's all the same, you know, like pitching is different, but the swing is the same. But I think, you know, if you're comparing men and women, we have a different center of mass. We obviously have different muscle mass and things like that. And the bat is lighter in softball, so you do swing it differently. You can move weight differently. So it took me a long time to admit, like, Okay, yeah, they are very different sports. But I do think that like earlier, you know, with the Phillies, when I first started out, I think my strongest point was that I've been in the box with the game on the line and things like that. So like the mental part of it was the same for me and still is. So I think when I go back and forth between softball and baseball, there are physical adjustments to make, but I still feel like the same player inside.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: No, I mean I think that's I think that's awesome. I think that's a that's a good I'm gonna actually I'm actually clip that and I'm gonna send it to my daughter, so it might give me a little bit of street cred, but it's making me sound like I'm listening to her also nice.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, it was the same way. I think if you could get out and.

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Speaker 9: Somehow play men's softball, you might be able to walk in her shoes a little bit better, and then I think she would maybe respect.

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Speaker 2: You for that.

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Speaker 10: I like that, all right, Sarah, So let's take us let's let's let's talk about ten years from now. Sarah Edwards. Everything goes exactly how you have it drawn up to go, exactly how you want it to go. Where where is Sarah Edwards in ten years? What's your dream job? Where do you Where do you want to be? Where are you're aspiring to get to?

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Speaker 8: Dang, that's so tough.

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Speaker 9: I never was someone to have like a five year, ten year plan or anything like that, But you know, I have aspirations and I just hope to be somewhere that I feel like I belong and I feel like I'm contributing to something really great and bigger than myself, a winning environment.

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Speaker 8: I want to stay in the game, whether it's baseball or softball. I don't know, but.

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Speaker 9: Maybe, like I think, you know, I've won championships in my career, and I consider myself a winner, and I know what it takes to win, especially on the mental side, which I think is why I've been able to survive in this game for so long, even without the resources and everything that that baseball has, like softball really lacks a lot.

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Speaker 8: And so I think as a forty year old.

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Speaker 9: I would be happy with maybe a head coaching position, whether it's at the collegiate level or professionally and just somewhere that we're all just pulling in the same direction to win a championship.

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Speaker 1: Hey, Sarah, can you give us more context on the Phillies and how that when and what you learned and you know who you're able to work with their.

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Speaker 8: Yeah. I loved my time with the Phillies.

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Speaker 9: I obviously was very green and had a lot to learn, and I think I stepped in it the right way knowing that I had more to learn than to give. But the funnest part for me was just mingling with the Latin players and learning Spanish and learning how the game is different to them and how passionate they are about it, and they just they still play like little kids because they are They're like, you know, they play like they're ten years old even though they're eighteen, nineteen twenty. And actually Felix Reyes, who I saw is on the thirty Man right now for the Phillies, he was he was one of my rookies, so that's really cool to see.

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Speaker 8: But I learned.

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Speaker 9: Basically, we had Luke Merton as our hitting director at the time, and he put forth a nominal system for us to kind of get these kids just to learn a little bit more and becomes more students of the game, because at that point, a lot of those Latin players, they just were so raw and they're so talented, but they don't they weren't used to thinking for themselves yet. So just kind of giving them the building blocks to become more autonomous like players and be able to continue throughout their whole careers with a good base of knowledge.

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Speaker 6: All right, Sarah.

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Speaker 3: Last one, the FCL where you were had to be hot, so if you had a good time, you were sweating. I appreciate it that you're still smiling about that experience. But I have to ask you. When my daughter's team, when they get hit by a pitch, I always say, it's okay, it's a.

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Speaker 7: Softball, and it's still hurts.

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Speaker 3: So getting hit by getting hit by a baseball and getting hit by a softball, which, by the way, I have played in the men's league. In my very first at bat, I hit a danger so it was not slow pits fast pitch, but my dad, I've been around fast pitch softball for a long time. My dad pitched for thirty years. So anyway, is it a little bit softer than a baseball?

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Speaker 8: No, I think it.

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Speaker 9: I think softballs are harder than baseball technically, but why are they called why?

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Speaker 8: I think they were maybe at one point.

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Speaker 7: Soft Okay, well witness.

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Speaker 9: Either way, we got to eat it. You can't, you can't show pain. You got to eat it no matter what.

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Speaker 2: I love it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, krat, We're not changing the name of the sport. Sarah, You're great. Thank you so much for joining us. Great to learn more about what you're doing, and for anyone watching follow Sarah on social media to to kind of see her path through baseball, softball, playing, and coaching. Appreciate you, Sarah, Thank you, Thank you guys,