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Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: Seaton, would you clean up the first hour of the program.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, this one's actually a little awkward to read right now, but that's okay. This one's from Todd Fritz, by the way, sitting to my right, putting together a starting five of all transfers.

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Speaker 2: Is smart or dumb?

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Speaker 3: I think that was answered last night because let's see sixty six percent of the audience say that it's very smart.

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Speaker 2: Obviously, have it ince my lessons? Okay? Do I have to start the interview with Dusty May apologizing for Todd? Yes, Paul, it can't be dumb. He just won the title and it's just a proof of concept right there. That's how you do it. Todd had a problem with this this morning. I go, it's recruiting, whether you're recruiting somebody who's twenty two or somebody eighteen, and we're.

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Speaker 4: Conveniently leaving out that at the top says these are.

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Speaker 2: Polls that might not quite work was the headline of those people. Well to bring in Dusty May, the Michigan head basketball coach. Good morning coach, congratulations, and I apologize for Fritzy saying that you know, bringing in all these transfers is dumb. We're proud of what you did.

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Speaker 5: Congratulations, no worries, Dan, thank you for having me on.

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Speaker 2: How much sleep are we working with?

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Speaker 6: About an hour and I think I closed by about five minutes a little bit ago in between interviews.

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Speaker 2: What kind of party did we have last night?

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Speaker 6: We as soon as we got back to the hotel, and our staff kind of has a semi tradition where if we have any big moments, we walk back from the arena to the hotel and that's just kind.

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Speaker 5: Of our rat pack entourage moment.

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Speaker 6: And we came to the hotel what we thought was a small get together with several hundred people, and it felt a little bit like prom where you're taking pictures and shaking hands and whatnot. But it was great just to see everyone under one roof.

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Speaker 2: Has it hit you yet?

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Speaker 5: No, not at all. I'm not sure that it will.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm guessing yeah, I don't know.

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Speaker 7: What.

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Speaker 2: Like, there's no more games, so it is it just going to hit you out of nowhere and you go, I'm a national champion.

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Speaker 6: Well, Dan, I think once we have our roster put together for next year, I've.

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Speaker 5: Been on the calls and the zooms already this morning.

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Speaker 6: The transfer portal. Transfer portal opened again at twelve oh one last night, and we have some holes in our roster that we must fill and so credit our staff. They hold me accountable and they've had some stuff.

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Speaker 5: Set up this morning. So we've been hitting the ground running.

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Speaker 2: Were you working the transfer portal after winning the championship When you guys are celebrating.

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Speaker 6: We actually contemplating doing a zoom at twelve oh one, knowing how much media we were going to have and how many hours that would take. I think it was about two o'clock and I said, are we still doing a zoom? And the staff said no, that that ship passed and we just waited till this morning.

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Speaker 2: Take me into half time, got a small lead, but what is your message to your team?

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Speaker 6: Our message was that things weren't going great. We weren't making shots. Yaxel was frustrated with us play, and we were at four points against a team that is conditioned to win, as any team that we faced in the last couple of years, and so we were optimistic that if we found a little bit of offensive rhythm, then we could find a way to at least tie or lose by no less than three the second twenty minutes.

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Speaker 2: And I brought this up a couple of times yesterday that unless you've shot in a big arena and the depth perception, it's really hard to get acclimated to that. And this was one of the worst shooting percentages for a national title game we've had in a long long time. How much of a role do you think it played that you're playing in you know, these cavernous stadiums.

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Speaker 6: Now, well, we shot the heck out of it on Saturday, so we felt good about preparation.

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Speaker 5: I think you had war to.

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Speaker 6: Do with with with Yukon's defense, the physicality game, and just two determined basketball teams that were fighting tooth and dal just trying to figure out a way to win. And they did a great job of controlling the tempo of the game of forcing us to.

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Speaker 5: Play at their pace, and they had us in a rock fight.

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Speaker 2: Any added, I don't know what the word would be that you did it in Indianapolis after you know, being in Indiana under Bob Knight.

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Speaker 6: Uh, it's actually probably a little bit more distracting because we're trying to accommodate a lot more people because of proximity. But just as I've said repeally, it's just a full circle moment. As a young kid, my mom would bring me up to these clinics at the final four of the Yes Clinics, and these basketball clinics where the college coaches back then were actually working.

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Speaker 5: Stations and teaching us how to shoot and.

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Speaker 6: And trible the ball. When we're in elementary school. Things have changed a lot in that regard. And also in two thousand, a group of US managers came up here because we could we could commute, and just we're trying to network and meet any coach, to make any connection that we could, to find a way to gain a spot in college basketball and literally any spot volunteer gas that those are the jobs we were looking for.

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Speaker 2: He's a Dusty May Michigan had basketball coach. But you survived, Bob Knight and thrive, but you survived. But give me your your Bob Knight. We I mean, I had my moments with him, good and bad. I've been yelled at before by him, but I'm sure you have as well. So your favorite Bob Knight story as a student manager as what.

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Speaker 6: There are some Probably my favorite one I could tell this because Coach has passed got rest of soul.

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Speaker 5: Our job was so.

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Speaker 6: Menial that his wife Karen wanted to have more grass in their backyard at their house in Ellisville, and Coach Knight refused to.

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Speaker 5: Cut down any trees.

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Speaker 6: And so Coach was on a fishing trip or recruiting trip, I can't remember now, and we got a call from Karen that a couple of us were subpoened out to the house and we had.

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Speaker 5: No idea what for. And I don't know why. This story just came to me. I've never told it before.

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Speaker 6: And we go out to the house and she had had several trees removed all the way down to the to the stump or to the ground. And we had to figure out a way to get the sawdust and any any residue from those trees out of the yard before Coach Night came home. So we literally had rakes and we were picking up sawdust with our bare hands so I wouldn't notice, hopefully wouldn't notice that any of his trees have been removed by I was on a on a hunting trip.

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Speaker 2: Jay Billis was on last hour and he said, to ask you about the different drinks and food that coach Knight like like Dr Pepper lemonade.

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Speaker 5: No Doctor pepp brit in chocolate milk.

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Speaker 6: This is no coach And I was ahead of his time and in many regards with analytics, with teaching pedagogy. But this was chack Cola before chock Cola our Yahoo. Uh had the soda taste with with a chocolate milk flavor, and uh.

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Speaker 5: It was it was ingenius.

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Speaker 2: Take me back to last year when you're trying to put this team together and you're trying to do it with players all over the country. So give me, give me the recipe for that philosophy of what you were doing.

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Speaker 8: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: Well, we take the job of Michigan and the first day I ride on campus, there's maybe six six or seven guys in the locker room and and almost the entire team had already entered the transfer portal just because of.

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Speaker 5: The timing of of these these moves.

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Speaker 6: And uh, my first call was to to Coach Howard to find out who he felt like was worth investing in as we tried to build our program and continue the legacy of the past team.

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Speaker 2: But you don't take it personally, Dusty, that you go in and you realize most of the team is in the transfer portal.

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Speaker 6: No, not at all, not at all. I wanted to get to know those guys. I wanted them to get to know me. And even the players that we identify our guys that we would love to keep, we tell them, don't make any rash decisions. Just give us some time and let's get on the court together. Let's spend some time. Let's go have lunch.

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Speaker 5: And because these.

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Speaker 6: College years are I mean a lot has been said about the portal and all this other stuff that eighteen to twenty three, eighteen to twenty two are such informative years for any of this that have changed as much as I did at that stage. And so we just want to make sure it's the right fit at the right stage of their careers and their development, and so we never take a personal and so we decided to try to keep several of them, and finances we didn't have hardly any money. Finances wouldn't allow us to keep very many. And then luckily Vlad Golden chose to join us from FAU, and shortly thereafter we got Danny Wolf because of his family connections to Michigan and his desire to play at the highest level in preparation for the NBA coming from Yale. So we had a couple foundational pieces, a couple of returners from the previous Michigan group that had institutional knowledge, and from there we were able to build out and really set an identity and culture in year one.

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Speaker 2: Is Michigan a football school or basketball school?

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Speaker 6: It's an everything school, But I wish you're saying that the football is incredibly important at Michigan. There's one hundred and ten thousand people that gather on our campus every single Saturday to watch high level football, to celebrate everything that comes with the University of Michigan.

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Speaker 5: And we've piggybacked on that.

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Speaker 6: Our first game at Michigan there's probably thirty five hundred people, and I can't remember the last played in front of a crowd that wasn't a sellout and they didn't bring great energy.

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Speaker 5: So people love the university.

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Speaker 6: They obviously appreciate a certain style of play as far as tenacity and and and teamwork and and so we're we're proud to be in a place where where they celebrate all sports.

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Speaker 2: What's the UH sweatshirt? What's the logo in your sweatshirt.

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Speaker 5: It's the throwback Wolverine.

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Speaker 2: Oh okay, yeah, it's the old school.

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Speaker 9: Uh yeah.

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Speaker 2: Did you get advice from the Fab five? Did they want to help you with coaching the Actually.

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Speaker 6: They've been they've been very, very helpful, and I've I've told them and I've told the media that other than Michael Jordan in my lifetime, they've changed the culture of our sport for the better more than any other team, group or individual. And it's it's it's a it's a point of pride for us to represent those guys. I was actually on a show with them the other day and they put me on the spot. They asked me which Fab five was my favorite, and I and being an Indiana guy that always loved the Pacers, I had to go with Jalen.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he'll be joining us next hour.

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Speaker 9: That's great.

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Speaker 8: Uh.

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Speaker 6: He's a lot for Detroit. He's very Uh, he's very respected in our area.

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Speaker 8: Uh.

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Speaker 2: You know sacrifice. You know the voice, it looks like it's gone for a little while, so hopefully you get some time to rika. You sound a little like Tom Izzo. That's a seasoned voice.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, that he's set that he set the standard for all of us young coaches as far as pouring pouring into the to our guys and our sport and uh yeah it's uh, my voice doesn't carry well normally and especially after a game like last night.

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Speaker 2: Congrats Dusty, it's a great story and uh good luck.

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Speaker 5: Thank you, Dan. I appreciate have you on.

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Speaker 2: That's a Dusty.

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Speaker 2: Make way for the Commissioner Major League Baseball. He's been there since twenty fifteen. Rob Manfred back on the show, commissioner, Good to see you. How's morale?

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Speaker 9: Hey, Dan Morrell is very high here at MLB.

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Speaker 10: Off to a great start, great World Baseball Classic, and really good start to the season.

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Speaker 2: I'm curious about you had the fight last night and when that does that get to your desk of you getting involved in that?

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Speaker 10: Yeah, usually that kind of on field incident Mike will handle. He makes a recommendation, and you know, we kind of go from there. Though only if it's a really kind of out of the ordinary problem would I get involved.

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Speaker 2: When's the last one you got involved in that?

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Speaker 10: Gosh, I can't even I think the last one I got involved with involved a player and a fan incident.

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Speaker 9: It was several years ago, and I can't tell you the player or the team.

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Speaker 2: True good. So it's rare. It's rare the ABS kind of letting that kind of trickle into Major League Baseball. How would you say reaction has been so far?

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Speaker 10: I think the reaction has been overwhelmingly positive. You know, I thought that my expectation was that the players would really like it. The opportunity to you know, correct a miss at a crucial point in the game. What actually surprised me, Dan is how popular it's been with fans. I don't know if you've been in a ballpark yet, but you know the challenge happens.

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Speaker 9: Everybody's kind of glued to the jumble John. It's amazing.

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Speaker 2: Oh I love it. I guess my only if you want to call criticism would be the umpire. They can't be taking this too kindly. That they're being embarrassed might be a strong word, but they're being judged by everybody. Everybody is reacting to that umpire. What kind of reaction have you gotten from the umpires on this?

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Speaker 10: I think the umpires have reacted with professionalism. I mean we had a lot of conversation with them about the implementation of this. I think it's important to bear in mind, and it's important for me to say publicly, you know they're right nearly ninety four percent of the time, which is an astounding number when you think about how difficult it is. And most of the challenges are pitches that are in or out by less, you know, less than or about half an inch.

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Speaker 9: So you know, you can't be too critical of people.

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Speaker 10: I mean, I understand, you know, you do get fans, they get on them, but I think they knew what to expect, and in general, our umpires want the game to be as good as possible, and I think they see it as an improvement in the game.

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Speaker 2: When do we get to full time?

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Speaker 10: You know, Look, I think that we're a few weeks in to implementation. I think that we made a good decision by you know, listening to fans, listening to players, that we should do a challenge system, we shouldn't go to full ABS. So we're just too early in the process for me to even think about any change to the system. Right now, I think we're pretty satisfied with where we.

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Speaker 2: Are, and I like the element of the stadium with the fans, and I would be dressing it up. You know, it's like a game show, you know, you know, was it right, was it wrong? You show it, the crowd reacts. I think it's it's a fun element where you're you're you're treating with something serious, but it is a fun element with that, and I think that it's overwhelmed.

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Speaker 9: I agree, it's a I think it's a you know, a former fan engagement.

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Speaker 10: The other thing I think that is important to keep in mind is, you know, we pull our fans about these changes, you know, routinely before we do them, after we do them, and you know, the challenge system was the one that our fans overwhelmingly favored.

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Speaker 2: What do fans not want when you do these polls with.

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Speaker 9: Them, Oh, there's things that they Oh, trust.

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Speaker 2: Me, it's number one. What's number one? Where you go, boy, they don't like this?

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Speaker 11: Yeah.

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Speaker 10: Look, I think of the things that we've done, the one that's the most controversial among our fans is the extra ending world the run around second base. That's the one that is you know, the most evenly split among fans.

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Speaker 9: I hated, but you know, it is an interesting thing.

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Speaker 10: I think that overwhelmingly players like it. You know, it does prevent the eighteen inning game and the prospect of somebody who's an outfielder trying to go up on the mountain pitch and getting hurt. I really do see it as a health and safety issue. But in recognition of your view of the world, our most important games that are playoff games, we play them out still.

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Speaker 8: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but I'm the you know, get off my lawn guy that it's just it's still a weird visual where you go and we go to the tenth inning and you see some guy at second base is it? Is it here to stay?

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Speaker 12: Look?

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Speaker 9: I think that it is here to stay.

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Speaker 10: I think the health and safety concern, the popularity of it among the players, I think it's one.

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Speaker 9: That is going to be with us.

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Speaker 2: He's the commissioner Major League Baseball. Your contract expires January twenty nine. Yeah, yeah, early in twenty nine, right, okay, but you could sign up before then if you wanted to extend correct.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, I could sign up before then if I wanted to extend. Rarely, you know, as commissioner's contracts in baseball gone all the way to the end. But you know, I was up front with the owners when I did my last deal that this was going to be it for me, and I'm pretty committed to that position.

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Speaker 2: Are you involved in approval of stadiums.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, there's certain The Commissioner's office has certain requirements for stadiums that are reviewed to make sure they're in conformity with you know, Major League requirements in terms of what a stadium must be.

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Speaker 2: But as far as you know, a roof retractable like those.

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Speaker 10: Are local decisions, you know, in terms of whether they're going to be retractable the basic design in the stadium.

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Speaker 9: Those are ones that clubs make.

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Speaker 2: But what happens if a team says, you know what, we want to bring our fences in, they have to check.

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Speaker 10: With the office to make sure that the dimensions of the field still conform with the minimum standards that we require.

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Speaker 2: Labor issues are never good content for radio or TV. But let me just ask you, from a fans perspective, what is it that I need to know about Major League Baseball moving forward with the potential labor issues.

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Speaker 10: I think the most important thing for our fans to know is we're going to provide them a great twenty twenty six season, and while they're watching that great twenty twenty six season, we're going to be working hard to get a labor deal done.

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Speaker 2: What's the big hold up? What could potentially be the big holdup?

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Speaker 10: Just not at a point in the process where I can really give you a good answer to that.

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Speaker 9: Dan, it's just too early, man.

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Speaker 2: You're shaking me off here. You're like, you're like, here, what's going on here? Usually you give me a little bit of something.

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Speaker 9: Listen, listen to your own introduction. There's nothing good about this conversation.

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Speaker 2: Right, what sport do you learn the most from Aside from baseball?

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Speaker 10: Oh, I pay a lot of attention to football and basketball. I think that you know, I'm a fan of both of those sports growing up, and you know, pay a lot of attention to what they're doing. You know, for example, like NBA games, I watched their instant replay carefully because I think it's something that runs contrary to an issue that we've been very aggressive about, which is time a game. Obviously you want to get it right, but you don't want to interrupt the flow of the game or delay the game make it longer. So you know, that's an example of something we pay a lot of attention.

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Speaker 2: And that takes me back to the ABS because you want to speed up the game, you're slowing down the game because you're going to review it, as opposed to it's going to be on the jumbo tron with every pitch eventually, and therefore you know it will keep the game moving that we won't be slowing down. So how how important does that tap the helmet and get that review? How quickly you get that review?

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Speaker 9: Yeah, it is an issue.

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Speaker 10: It is the one topic on ABS that I've raised in the last couple of our staff meetings, and the data shows we're like a minute.

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Speaker 9: And a half.

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Speaker 10: Longer associated with ABS. That's a price I'm prepared to pay.

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Speaker 2: Who came up with robots like that? To me was the negative part of this. People go, are you gonna have robots behind home plate? And I go, no, they'll be umpires? Like but who did the media do this? You can believe the media did that.

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Speaker 10: We I mean we as a matter of fact, I if you kind of look back when people are asking me about it, when they asked me about robo umpires, I uniformly correct the fact that it is a system that assists a live person in doing his job better, his or her job better.

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Speaker 9: You know, we always call it ABS, and.

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Speaker 10: I agree with you that the moniker of you know, robot or the overlay of referring to it as a robot is a negative thing.

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Speaker 2: When's the last time your phone rang after midnight East Coast time? Baseball wise, it's.

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Speaker 9: Been a while.

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Speaker 10: I mean, you know, there's periods of time where it happens, but it has been a while, and certainly not during the twenty twenty sixth season.

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Speaker 12: Yet.

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Speaker 2: Okay, all right, Well, We're off to a good start.

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Speaker 13: No, we have, you know, we have been kind of you know, look, we had the little uproar in the Angels Braves game last night, but you know, it's been pretty quiet so far in terms of.

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Speaker 9: The play of the game on the field. The games have been great and you know, mostly positive so far.

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Speaker 2: The WBC. I hate that we're going to lose momentum on this again. Can you do it every two years?

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Speaker 10: You know, Look, I think that we're going to have a meeting on the WBC, which we always do after it is completed.

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Speaker 9: I think that the event was so successful.

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Speaker 10: This time that we need to talk about frequency, regularity of schedule. You know, we haven't even I mean, it's one thing to not do it every year. Our problem because of COVID and labor negotiations, whatever it's it's not even you can't even say it's every four years. And you know, we do need to get into given how popular it is, we need to get into a regular rotation. I think the most important reason for that is fair. But I'll give you another reason. You know, our broadcast partners were out in force at the WBC Partner Finals, and you know, I think this is going to be a piece of our national broadcasting agreements, and obviously to do that, it has to be on a regular schedule.

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Speaker 2: All right, Well, we'll keep an eye on you. We're grading you all the time.

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Speaker 10: As you should, as you should, Dan, you know, I mean you know we like you said, you got umpires who were subject to scrutiny.

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Speaker 9: I certainly should be as well.

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Speaker 2: I go back to Bowie Qan. I was there Booie's last day in office. Really, yeah, I went when he was packing up.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, I'm I missed Bowie, but I was Actually when I first started as an outside lawyer, I was in.

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Speaker 9: A meeting where Peter you.

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Speaker 10: Were off, Fay, Vincent Barchamadi, I'd see a league and I were all in the meeting and there were only seven.

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Speaker 9: People in the room, which you think about, that's.

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Speaker 8: Five out of ten.

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Speaker 9: Right, that's pretty good.

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Speaker 2: Okay, last day, you get to take one thing out of the office, you know.

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Speaker 10: I have a I'm going to betray myself.

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Speaker 14: I have a drawing of Mickey Mantle that a fairly well known baseball artist did sort of as I had done a speech for them, and it was the honorarium for doing the speech.

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Speaker 10: You know, I grew up a Yankee fan. My very first game was in nineteen sixty eight. It was Mantals last year, but believe it or not, he hit two home runs in the game, one from each side of the plate. It was the last time he ever did it. And I'm taking that Mickey Mantle drawing with me no matter what.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Rob, good to talk to you.

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Speaker 9: It's great to talk to you Dan. As always, I always enjoy.

00:25:59
Speaker 2: It, and so the Commissioner Major League Baseball, Rob Manfred.

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Speaker 2: We got a chance to talk to Dave Roberts. The Dodgers had a day game yesterday in Toronto, and uh so we got a chance to talk to him before the game, and I started off by asking him what he does on a day off.

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Speaker 8: I'm actually going to play contractor tomorrow in Cardiff. We're doing a whole like landscape outdoor situation. Iways want to kind of see what's going on, but usually play golf. That's what I'll typically do.

00:26:45
Speaker 2: All right, thank for the Masters. Is have you played Augusta?

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Speaker 8: I cannot. I've played there twice and it's it's the experience is unlike any other. So yeah, I've been very, very fortunate, and I cannot wait for this week. I'm looking forward to tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: Well, how did you play it against? Did you want to give me your spy?

00:27:06
Speaker 8: I shot eighty nine and eighty six. Okay, that's so respectable.

00:27:12
Speaker 2: Did you play from the member tips at all? Like on eighteen?

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Speaker 8: No? I played for the No, I played for the member.

00:27:16
Speaker 2: Teams ah, member teas. Okay, yeah, that's.

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Speaker 8: Right, that's right. I yeah, I did. That's it. That's it. That's my admission. But I feel that's all right.

00:27:25
Speaker 2: I went all the way back on eighteen and it's and it feels like those trees are growing when you're on the tee, like they get tighter and tighter. But we went all the way back. There's a couple of them. You can play all the way back, but eighteen and I said, let's do it. Let's let's see. But it's it's a lot hillier than what you think.

00:27:47
Speaker 8: So did you, uh, did you get into the fairway off eighteen from the tips?

00:27:52
Speaker 2: I did off to the left, but well short of the bunker on the left and ended up boguing. You know, but but you know, we had fun.

00:28:02
Speaker 8: That's a good bogey from the tips. From that, that's a good bogey.

00:28:06
Speaker 2: What do you think of ABS so far?

00:28:08
Speaker 8: I like it. I think it's good. You know, it might be a little bit too perfect in the sense of, you know, a centimeter change is a call, but I do think that it makes the umpires. The umpiring for me, is getting better. And I think that that's whether they agree with that or not, because they don't want to No one wants to be embarrassed, and so they bear down more. And I think that's better for the game.

00:28:34
Speaker 2: How do you develop a strategy for appealing or is there a strategy?

00:28:39
Speaker 8: You know what we've done a good job of like just talking about it. We've you know, we get our front office, we get our hitting guys, our veteran guys, our hitting cup guys, players just talking about leverage. And I think the thing is is that is just trying to figure out what is leverage when to use it. And I think that for the run prevention side, we give it to the catcher. And Will's been great. Will Smith has been great, and then I think it's just it's also helped our hitters kind of really understanding the hitting zone, the strike zone. They're more in tune with it.

00:29:14
Speaker 2: Now, how did we get to this point where umpires were given their own strike zone?

00:29:20
Speaker 8: Dave? Well, yeah, I don't want to throw anybody under the bus, but Levon Hernandez Greig behind the plate, history might have been changed.

00:29:34
Speaker 12: You know.

00:29:35
Speaker 8: I think that the way that the game used to be, where it was like, you know, you're Maddox or Glavin and whoever. You know, any great pitcher right that has command, You're getting three four or five inches off the plate and as a run young rookie, they're like, hey man, he's going to get that pitch. You better swing the back. So I think I think that with social media, uh, you know, with everything, with the analytics, like, everything is more precise, and I think that's good. You know, you don't want to lose a human element with the umpires, which I think they get defensive of which I get, but I think at the end of the end of the day, people want to get the calls right, and that's what the integrity of the game should be.

00:30:21
Speaker 2: Talking to Dave Roberts, Dodger manager, how important is this cy Young to show Hey Otani.

00:30:28
Speaker 8: Extremely you know, and I and I would you know, love to know. I mean, I think that with show Hey, he's done everything, you know, on the field, He's carried not single handedly, but almost single handedly, you know, the game of baseball as far as domestic, you know, international, be in the face of the of the game. That's something he hasn't done. And also Yamamoto his his teammate and countrymen. You know, that's something that one of those guys. I'm sure both those guys want to be the first Japanese born player, you.

00:30:58
Speaker 2: Know, to win a cy Young the coach manager. They are coaches who say, hey, I don't treat everybody the same, or managers, I don't treat everybody the same. What do you do you subscribe to They're all individuals. I treat them as individuals, or you know, it's a team.

00:31:17
Speaker 8: I guess the easiest way to put it is you definitely treat them as individuals. You don't treat them the same, but you treat them fairly. And that's and what that and obviously you know Dan, what that means is when you're Freddie Freeman, you get treated differently than Alex Freeland. And when you're Clayton Kershaw, you get treated differently than Emma Chian And that's the way it should be. Those things are earned.

00:31:41
Speaker 2: The sound off of show Heyo Tani's bat, like, there's certain sounds in baseball. Can you think of another player when you were Gel Cabrera, it just sounded different.

00:31:53
Speaker 8: It sounded different, Miguel Cabrera. That's that's the guy for me that when that dude hit a baseball, it was a different sound. Yes, when Showy hits a baseball, it's a different sound.

00:32:03
Speaker 2: I thought Jack Peterson had that sound too, Like it was like, wow.

00:32:08
Speaker 8: It's coming off his bat too.

00:32:10
Speaker 2: Absolutely explain the Yamamoto, you know, pitching deep into games now, the rare occurrence playoffs last year, like that's an anomaly. We don't see that anymore.

00:32:25
Speaker 8: Yeah, I think we're starting to get back to that now, which is a good thing. I think in baseball, you know, you know, the last couple of years, last year in particular, I think that you know, I think organizations wide, industry wide starting to you know again value length of a starting pitcher and you know, understanding the value that it attacks of pulling guys shorter, not letting them go longer, trying to protect the starter and say bullets, but has a cost with relievers, you know, and and not having your best picture essentially out on the mound taking down more outs. I think Yamamoto's first year he was cutting his teeth in the States. I I kind of played him short because I wanted him to end with success and you know, get confidence, and pushed him a little bit more in the postseason. And then last year, if you look at his usage, I pushed him a little bit more, extend him in the postseason. And yeah, and I think that's that's I think you're you're seeing that more. I think across baseball as well, not just you know with our guys.

00:33:33
Speaker 2: You are you defying analytics?

00:33:36
Speaker 8: Yeah?

00:33:37
Speaker 2: Yeah, are you doing that hitting one? Is it still a all or nothing at the plate analytics?

00:33:43
Speaker 8: No, it's not. And I think that the team that we're playing right now did did is a good case study. And you know, slugging, when you're trying to slug, checking down and hitting with two strikes, hitt into the opposite field. The Blue Jays and I've always he's valued batting average. Freddie Freeman is, you know, probably my favorite player I've ever coached with everything in total of what he does, and he values batting average, and you know, the biggest moments in a postseason game, you want hits and be able to drive in a run. But in our game, so that's valued most in the postseason, but it's somehow been devalued in the season, the batting average that runs batted in. So I've always been an advocate of that, and I don't like the three what is it probable outcomes or things like that, that kind of I've never been a fan of that type of hitter.

00:34:41
Speaker 2: When's the last time you lost? When's the last time you watched Game seven of the World Series?

00:34:47
Speaker 8: You know, just recently I did a podcast with passing with John Schneider, but that was kind of snippets. But I haven't dp. I haven't watched Game seven in its entirety ever, and I just don't have any interest. I mean, it was a great gain, great series, very fortunate. But maybe I guess for fear that the result might.

00:35:08
Speaker 2: Say how of the Blue Jays treated you.

00:35:14
Speaker 8: Great? You know, I guess when you're booed. That's a good thing. But the but I love Canadian people. I just the Canadians are very good people. I think that the World Series, the Blue Jays have been great for the country of Canada. I love coming north of the border and I love Toronto. It's freezing here, but fortunately we have the Rogers Center, we have a dome. But I love Canada.

00:35:42
Speaker 2: Well, if you came out and they started applauding you, that probably would have meant, hey, thank you for giving us the Worlds. We got the World Series, so the.

00:35:50
Speaker 8: Only fair, totally fair.

00:35:51
Speaker 2: Yes, you're right, Yeah you want to get booth.

00:35:54
Speaker 8: You're right, DP.

00:35:55
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're doing something right. Save travels as always. Thanks for spending some time.

00:36:01
Speaker 8: All right, DP, take care. We'll talk soon.

00:36:03
Speaker 2: Dodger manager Dave Roberts speaking to him yesterday.

00:36:06
Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our shows at foxsports Radio dot com and within the iHeartRadio app search f s R to listen live.

00:36:18
Speaker 2: Is Dan Hurley, Connecticut basketball coach and joining us on the program. How's moron today?

00:36:25
Speaker 15: Feel pretty good? Uh that you recover? Start to recover a little bit more physically, emotionally. Uh with with every day that uh that passes, you know, you get a little more strength back, you know, you start to so to get the life starts getting back in your body.

00:36:44
Speaker 8: It's a long season.

00:36:46
Speaker 15: And then when you play, uh when you you know, when you're on those last buses on Monday night. Uh, you know you're you're playing a long season. I mean, you know, I like your your There are a lot of colleges seasons are over. We were playing the Big East Tournament, you know, so that was it feels like a year ago.

00:37:05
Speaker 2: The high high of winning and the low low of losing. Can you compare those two?

00:37:12
Speaker 8: Uh, yeah, you know, I don't Maybe I didn't feel it.

00:37:19
Speaker 15: The low low of losing, I think I've Yeah, sometimes like being proud of the group and how hard they fought to give you the maximum with the group. Sometimes that that has kind of been a little bit of an override on the disappointment of missing out on the confetti, the trophy being the champions.

00:37:44
Speaker 8: You know, so like proud is kind.

00:37:48
Speaker 15: Of overriding disappointment and sad maybe and maybe that's because we have a couple chips, but you know, proud more than.

00:37:59
Speaker 2: Sad when did you realize you were in trouble?

00:38:04
Speaker 8: What? What? What different things I did during the year in the game.

00:38:07
Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, You're always in trouble. I'm talking about when I.

00:38:14
Speaker 8: Was eight years old.

00:38:16
Speaker 15: When I was eight years old at olm Our Lady of Mercy, when sister Sister Mary.

00:38:24
Speaker 2: Caught me, Uh no, wait what did she catch you doing?

00:38:29
Speaker 15: Probably, uh, you know, copying homework five minutes before classes.

00:38:35
Speaker 2: Okay, that's not that bad.

00:38:37
Speaker 8: Not bad, not bad, I would say.

00:38:39
Speaker 15: In that game, No, when you when the game first starts and you see, you know, literally the massive challenge in terms of their size and athleticism and physicality, you know, and I think we start the game nine nine four down and you're like, whoa, it's going to be really hard to score and we better be ready to fight.

00:39:04
Speaker 2: But you got twenty two offensive rebounds, which which is kind of crazy. If I would have said that before the game, you're gonna get twenty two offensive rebounds, you'd probably lean towards we're winning this game.

00:39:17
Speaker 15: Yeah, I would say a lot of the numbers, the you know, the rebounding. Obviously, we've been a great defensive team the entire year, especially guarding the three point line. If you would have said to me, twenty two offensive rebounds, obviously the uh, you know, the defensive effort keeping them to what we we held an excellent team. And then when you look at probably the shots that we started to get, you know, as they started to get fatigued in the second half, you know, we had a lot of opportunities obviously, make a lot of the you know, the fast break basket.

00:39:59
Speaker 8: To to cut it.

00:40:01
Speaker 15: To four with two minutes to go would have obviously put enormous game pressure.

00:40:07
Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought that that was probably the key to the game. And then after the game you said just nice things verbal bouquets about the referees.

00:40:17
Speaker 15: Yeah, listen, when you get you know, when you get to that that you get to answer a tournament, you know, you get the officials you get, you get the best of the best, and you know the officials that you get as the tournament goes on or the best officials keep advancing. You know, you go back and watch the film and you know, there's obviously things that I got wrong as a coach, the shots that the players missed, and then you know, you see plays that went on during the game that you know that that the officials missed. It's not it's not a perfect, you know situation. Obviously, the you know, the hook and hold on caravan was was was a big play. And then obviously that you know, they missed a couple of uh, you know, they probably missed a couple two of of you know, of calls, shoves in the back or what have you. But you know, Michigan was the best team in the country, uh, you know, the whole year and uh and they deserve that. Dusty did an awesome job there and all time. Uh, one of the best teams in recent memory.

00:41:14
Speaker 2: For me, when do you find out if Mullins is coming back?

00:41:21
Speaker 8: Well, I mean the line is starting to form. It's the it's the supermarket, it's the deli section. I don't know what number.

00:41:31
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, yeah.

00:41:33
Speaker 15: It's such a you know, for I think for for teams like US and the teams that played in the final four National Championship game, it's like it hits you like an avalanche because we literally, you know, your season really just ended, you know, just like literally two days ago, and now you've got to make all these decisions. You've got to help your players make monumental decisions. Uh, I would just say what now in college I would I would say that unless it absolutely makes total sense for you to go in the draft, you know, unless you know you're gonna be a lottery pick or guaranteed to go top fifteen, top eighteen. The biggest mistake that you can make right now as a college basketball player is going to the draft too early and not staying long enough in college because of the obviously the money situation.

00:42:24
Speaker 2: What's your advice going to be or has has it already been for Mullens to stay or go?

00:42:30
Speaker 15: I think with what I'll tell what I'll tell Braylan and I'll tell his family is number one.

00:42:35
Speaker 8: Do you like college? You know? Do you like college?

00:42:40
Speaker 15: I mean some players are in a rush to get to the NBA because they don't like being a college student. They don't like being in a college program. So I think that's like the because college programs are run way differently than than NBA teams in terms of how we practice and you know, just in how kind of rigorous uh study hall and going to class, and then you know the coach being in charge of the whole operation. So yeah, I mean it's it's you know, do you like college? And I think that that the world has changed, there's not this you know, this this pressure to go to the NBA now because of the because of the money situation. He you know, players like Braylan are probably he probably make more money at Yukon next year than he would if he was the fifteenth pick. So uh, you know, those are the things that you have to weigh. How badly do I want to get out of college and get to the NBA.

00:43:41
Speaker 2: Are you scheduled to face uh Luke Murray in BC next year?

00:43:46
Speaker 15: No, I'm gonna put the the the family.

00:43:49
Speaker 8: He's like a brother to me, Luke.

00:43:51
Speaker 15: I mean, uh, And I couldn't imagine Bill Murray not wearing my team's hat or rooting against me now, So he's like a brother.

00:44:01
Speaker 8: So I'll never schedule Luke.

00:44:04
Speaker 2: The transfer portal and recruiting out of high school, like, I don't know if you've ever had a top ten recruiting year. Maybe you had eleventh as your best, but it kind of feels like you have a formula of what you're trying to do. Maybe you take a big swing and you get Raylan Mullins, but then you're also going to be filling in the pieces here. We saw that with Illinois, we saw that with Michigan. Is this is this the future of college basketball?

00:44:31
Speaker 8: Yeah?

00:44:32
Speaker 15: Dan, I think we're at a crossroads, you know. I think we've got to decide, you know what what is you know, who do we want to be? You know, do we want to try to hold the line and just go retention, high school recruiting and maybe you know, cherry pick a need in the portal, you know, or is this now? Are we at a point where it's like wipe the board every year and try to put together the most talented team that you can. I mean, we have our first national champion that was comprised of all portals or all transfers in Michigan obviously a stud and McKinney off the bench as a high school recruit. But right now we're we're we're we're processing the best, you know, the best way for us to move forward because you've got players on your team that are obviously right now weighing, you know, what they want to do, but also from a from a program standpoint, you also have all these players that have entered the portal, you know, who are also reaching out for Yukon that would like to potentially play here too. So you know, our players have decisions to make about what they want to do in the future. But you know, we also as a staff have got to decide quickly.

00:45:48
Speaker 2: Is coaching the least stressful part of this job?

00:45:51
Speaker 10: Now?

00:45:52
Speaker 11: Yeah?

00:45:52
Speaker 8: I mean this is terrible right now? What's going on?

00:45:55
Speaker 15: I mean we I think we all have to get to a point and it's not It's not terrible, you know, in a sense of nil. I think the nil for the players is awesome. Our players made a lot of money this year, and their commitment level was to the max, so the money didn't make them lazy or hard to coach.

00:46:13
Speaker 8: They were awesome the whole year.

00:46:15
Speaker 15: But just you know, like I think as as college programs right now, you literally have to have a front office that takes over at this point of the year. You know, like to take a coaching staff that now did the six month season and now you've got to flip and now run recruiting visits, put the roster together, talk to the agent. I mean, it's it's it's it's a lot. I think college programs are they got we got to start run being run like an NBA organization or a pro sports organization.

00:46:45
Speaker 2: Do you have a player who has a nicer car than you?

00:46:49
Speaker 15: Yeah, I mean I that was I think I think it was early this year. I started to see the Tesla's and the BMW's. I'm a Ford guy, you know, I'm a Ford guy. I got my Ford Raptor truck, so I'm built tough.

00:47:11
Speaker 2: Of course you are. But it used to be in the old days players would have BMW's in nice cars. It just was not above board.

00:47:20
Speaker 8: They pay cash. Now it's leases.

00:47:23
Speaker 15: Now they're getting Now they're getting leases with which is you know. It's hey, listen, it's great the type of guys that we get at Yukon Again.

00:47:32
Speaker 8: It's like for me, it's the transfer rule.

00:47:35
Speaker 15: If my sons, as college or high school kids, said to me, hey, Dad, I want to transfer after my freshman year of college, you know, I would say, tell me why, and I want to hear your reasons, and then I'll support you if the reasons make sense. But then at the end of their sophomore year, if they said I want to transfer again, and then I want to transfer again, at some point I would as a parent, I would be concerned.

00:48:04
Speaker 2: All right, Well, you got time off now, don't.

00:48:06
Speaker 15: You No that line it's even gotten bigger since I looked last.

00:48:13
Speaker 2: Do you know how many players right now you'll have on your team next year?

00:48:21
Speaker 10: No?

00:48:22
Speaker 8: I don't I know. I maybe five, four or five out.

00:48:29
Speaker 15: Of fifteen maybe, you know, with between turning pro, you know, players you know, having the role they want here?

00:48:38
Speaker 8: You know, should I test the draft process? Yeah?

00:48:42
Speaker 15: Obviously this tampering that's been going on, I mean it's tampering that goes on the entire the entire year. So you know, now even players that aren't in the portal. I mean everyone's I mean, everyone's in the portal.

00:48:55
Speaker 2: But Danny, why do we allow schools to tamper with coaches?

00:49:01
Speaker 8: Why did we want? What's that?

00:49:03
Speaker 2: Why do we allow a school, you know, North Carolina if they're interested in Ben Golden or they're interested in you know, Tommy lawt Like, why are they allowed to do that? They're under contract?

00:49:17
Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean they you shouldn't you know? You should?

00:49:21
Speaker 2: North Carolina didn't reach out to you, did they?

00:49:23
Speaker 8: No?

00:49:24
Speaker 2: Okay?

00:49:24
Speaker 8: No?

00:49:25
Speaker 15: And when I was coaching at Rhode Island, it was really important for me that, uh, and I knew my last year that there was going to be interest from Pittsburgh and Yukon and you you obviously you have agents that are you know, because these schools they want they want to know, like they want to know, they want to know what your interest level is while you're in that other job. They don't want to wait till your seasons over. But I think what was unique for me when I was coaching Rhode Island was, you know, I refuse to talk to any of those schools, uh or to even have the intermediary you know, conversations until Duke beat my butt at the end of my last game after we beat Oklahoma in the tournament at Rody. So yeah, I mean, I don't know how you can do that as a coach and then come in and look at your team and then be upset with the players. And yeah, I mean I think that as as adults and as coaches, you got to have you have to have some honor with the way that you move and the decisions that you make with your career.

00:50:31
Speaker 2: Hopefully, enjoy the off season. Thanks for joining us, Thanks for sharing. As always, always a pleasure to thank you.

00:50:36
Speaker 10: Man.

00:50:37
Speaker 1: It's Dan Hurley. Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our shows at Foxsports Radio dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to listen live.

00:50:50
Speaker 2: We make way for the Hall of Famer Doc Rivers, the Milwaukee Bucks head coach whose attention is not on me in this show. It's on watching the Masters.

00:51:00
Speaker 8: There.

00:51:00
Speaker 2: I see what you're doing. You're watching the Masters, aren't you?

00:51:04
Speaker 12: I sure am?

00:51:05
Speaker 11: You know that the Master's app is on right now, and so I'm watching the feature groups. Dan, Dan, I haven't talking to you in a while. You know, what's going on with you?

00:51:16
Speaker 2: I kind of status quo, just, you know, kind of running out playing out the string here? You know, just the last couple of years. When are you retiring?

00:51:25
Speaker 12: Playing out the string here? Last year?

00:51:28
Speaker 2: Okay? Who retires first?

00:51:30
Speaker 8: Doc?

00:51:32
Speaker 11: Oh man, I got a fill in. What did you say? Twenty eight, twenty.

00:51:37
Speaker 2: Twenty eight February of twenty twenty eight, Well, you still be coaching in the NBA.

00:51:42
Speaker 12: I think there's a very good chance I'm going to beat you.

00:51:45
Speaker 2: Yeah.

00:51:46
Speaker 12: Yeah, we'll meet afterwards to have a drink somewhere.

00:51:49
Speaker 2: Is this year last season?

00:51:51
Speaker 12: I don't know.

00:51:52
Speaker 11: I don't know that, but you know, I'm I'm leaning a lot of different ways, you know, So I don't want to commit to anything.

00:52:00
Speaker 12: I don't.

00:52:00
Speaker 11: You know, Dan, it's so tough and you probably have dealt with this. The word retirement means you don't work at all, and I don't think I'm gonna do that. I would drive people nuts if I was at home every day.

00:52:16
Speaker 2: Are you still having fun? This has been a pretty tough, trying year.

00:52:19
Speaker 11: But yeah, this has been a rough year, nothing like you know, if you if you read Cham's article the other day, that's that that article was so far off base that it was nowhere near like as hectic or what we're toxic situation as it as it looks. But it's still losing, Dan, You know, this is my first losing season in twenty seasons. That's the hell of a run. Losing is no fun for anyone. And then the Yannis situation has been really rough for everyone, including the honest. So this has not been a fun year. But every year is not gonna be fun. Then you don't have great years every year and you just deal was it? So I look at it, I put it in that compartment and not nearly as bad as made look on the outside.

00:53:07
Speaker 2: What does he honest want?

00:53:10
Speaker 11: Boy, I don't know, And we talk probably more than anyone, you know, Dan. It's a tough one because he has done such a great job here in Milwaukee, right, and yet he still wants to win a title, and clearly we have to do a better job here with our roster to make that even look like a possibility. And if we can't do that, then he's gonna look outward. And so I think that's a twofold answer. I think one, if we had all the pieces here, I have no doubt he'd want to stay here.

00:53:45
Speaker 12: But we don't, and so that puts him in a tough spot.

00:53:49
Speaker 2: What say do you have in this?

00:53:51
Speaker 11: Not a lot just with him trying to guide him. You know, we talk a lot about it, I can tell you that.

00:54:01
Speaker 2: And why isn't he playing these last couple he wanted to play? Correct? Is he he wanted to play play?

00:54:08
Speaker 11: He just hadn't been cleared, you know. And so, uh, that's another one where I'm kind of caught in the metal. I think, yeah, this was a playoff game, you would play them. But if it wasn't a playoff game, there's no way you would play them. I think that would be the correct answer.

00:54:21
Speaker 2: Talking to Doc Rivers, Hall of Famer, and uh, watching the Masters here, have you played Augusta? Yeah, who'd you play?

00:54:30
Speaker 12: Didn't play it, but.

00:54:31
Speaker 11: Jimmy Dunn, who was a great guy, and then two other friends.

00:54:35
Speaker 12: Uh, I had a great time. Uh played miserably.

00:54:39
Speaker 16: You know.

00:54:40
Speaker 11: Then I've been in finals. I've been I've been in so many christious situations.

00:54:45
Speaker 2: How nervous were you?

00:54:47
Speaker 11: Oh, I got to tell you in the first tea box, I think it was kind of Lisa Rice. I want to say Peyton Manning of all people were coming out and they were you know, Peyton, you know, and it was hard for me to put the thing back, like I'm sitting.

00:55:01
Speaker 12: There like, oh, holy goodness, it's just a golf course.

00:55:05
Speaker 11: But it's not just a golf course. It's one amazing place. No, So, yeah, I was a little nervous.

00:55:11
Speaker 2: I got traded on the first tea by my caddy. No, yes, like they were betting on us. And my caddy caddied for Sevy when he won in nineteen eighty and I just remember they swapped bags after my t shot and I said what happened? And the caddie goes you just got traded on the first tea.

00:55:34
Speaker 11: Well, I can tell you my caddy took a big loss because I hit a huge drive on one, so I did. I ripped it and I saw my caddie give two people high five.

00:55:45
Speaker 12: That was the only good shot I hit.

00:55:49
Speaker 2: How did you find out about the Hall of Fame?

00:55:53
Speaker 11: I'm sitting exactly where I was sitting, as a matter of fact, and I get a call from the Hall.

00:55:58
Speaker 12: It's funny.

00:55:59
Speaker 11: I have my phone block, which I learned to non uh numbers at Aren't UH Store, and so I didn't answer the phone.

00:56:06
Speaker 12: Then, you know, uh, it was hilarious.

00:56:09
Speaker 11: And I get a text, Hey, Doc, this is sessions is from a whole Well, we really need you to answer the phone.

00:56:16
Speaker 12: So I was in the doghouse before I got in the house.

00:56:20
Speaker 8: You know.

00:56:21
Speaker 11: And it's a great call, Dan, I gotta tell you it's you know, it's funny. I get the call and they said, Doc, you're in the Hall, and I didn't. It's not something you worked for, Like you don't work to be in the Hall. At least I can tell you I've worked because I love coaching. I love whatever else comes with it. But when I called my brother and he answered the phone and I told him he was golfing, which pissed me off.

00:56:48
Speaker 12: And he just start crying.

00:56:51
Speaker 11: And it was like the most emotional thing because my parents are no longer with us, and he just said my two parents' names and start bawling.

00:56:58
Speaker 8: Uh.

00:56:59
Speaker 12: He walked away from the phone.

00:57:00
Speaker 11: Another guy pitched the phone up who I still don't know who that was. And the guy says, hey, doctor, is everything okay?

00:57:08
Speaker 8: Uh?

00:57:08
Speaker 11: And I said, yes, things are good. I'm in the Hall of Fame. Uh So he start.

00:57:14
Speaker 12: Whoever the guy was start celebrating to me.

00:57:17
Speaker 8: Uh.

00:57:17
Speaker 11: So that was my first five minutes in the hall. It was pretty cool.

00:57:22
Speaker 2: Now you have your nickname after doctor J.

00:57:25
Speaker 12: Yeah.

00:57:26
Speaker 2: Could doctor J be part of the induction ceremony.

00:57:30
Speaker 12: That's not a bad call. He could be.

00:57:33
Speaker 5: Uh.

00:57:33
Speaker 11: There's other names to uh, you know, pat Riley, Kevin Garnett.

00:57:38
Speaker 12: So it's so.

00:57:39
Speaker 11: Funny, Dan, these are the other things I don't I've never been in the hall, so I've had twenty people ask me what you're asking me?

00:57:46
Speaker 12: Who's gonna introduce me? Uh, there's a lot of guys.

00:57:50
Speaker 8: You know.

00:57:50
Speaker 11: One thing you know, with your success, you don't. You don't reach success without a lot of people helping you. Uh, it's really you and a whole team that people don't know. And so anybody I asked would be someone who helped me. Pat Riley was instrumental on me coaching. Kevin Garnett is instrument on me getting my success. Wayne Embery probably is the most important person in my life just because he was guiding me even in college.

00:58:15
Speaker 12: So there's a lot of.

00:58:16
Speaker 2: People I've been talking about the Rookie of the Year with konk Nipple is favored over Cooper Flag. Just to give you my opinion, I don't think this should be close. I think what Cooper Flag is doing at nineteen as the guy night in and night out, as imposed to Cannipple, who's the third option for a playoff team. Wonderful year. But Cooper Flag's nineteen years of age doing some things that we haven't seen since Lebron. Your thoughts on who should be the Rookie of the Year, I'll.

00:58:45
Speaker 11: Tell you, I do think it's close, and I've gone back and forth on it because it's this year, probably more than any year than I can remember. It's probably it's almost two categories Cooper Flag's numbers.

00:58:59
Speaker 12: Just scream at you. They really do.

00:59:02
Speaker 11: Uh, scoring forty, scoring fifty, Uh being the point guard, playing a position that he's never played before, handling that night, and and the featured guy each night. Like when you play Dallas, you're preparing for Cooper Flag. But what what con has.

00:59:18
Speaker 16: Done is, in my opinion, he's changed the the culture of an organization that has had cultural problems with his which his approach, you know, his his play is tough.

00:59:35
Speaker 11: He's a tough He's a two way player. I've never seen a rookie have an impact on a team as much as he has had, and there's something to be said about that as well. And the reason he doesn't have the numbers is because he is on a good team, you know, so he's sharing the ball with LaMelo ball and and Bridges and everybody else.

00:59:58
Speaker 2: You think he could be a feature guy and score again.

01:00:03
Speaker 11: I think you could score more points if he is on a team was worse. But he's such a team player, he's such a leader, and I do think from a coaching standpoint that that means a lot. But you're right, it's it's it's a tough I wish this is the one year. I would be fine if they had co MVPs. Yeah, but if you just go on numbers, which is what you're supposed to do, you're right, it's Cooper flag. If you're going impact, it's con And that's how I look at it.

01:00:34
Speaker 8: Uh.

01:00:35
Speaker 2: Have you had anybody match Kevin Garnet's intensity in your career?

01:00:40
Speaker 1: No?

01:00:41
Speaker 11: Yeah, I would say intensity. Yeah, I've had some guys. You know, Patrick Beverley was nuts.

01:00:47
Speaker 12: Yeah, so so I would throw him out there.

01:00:51
Speaker 2: Or bad nuts.

01:00:52
Speaker 12: It depends on the.

01:00:53
Speaker 4: Game, you know.

01:00:55
Speaker 11: I jokely one night I was very upset at the way Patrick played and uh a pet player, and I told him, I said, I'm gonna put you on the all Scared team And He's like, what's that?

01:01:05
Speaker 12: You scared me? Just scare them?

01:01:08
Speaker 11: And I said, I don't know which way to go every time I put you in. But that dude was so dang competitive man like he you.

01:01:16
Speaker 12: Know, it's funny.

01:01:17
Speaker 11: He was a good defender, but he was a great defender because he scared the hell out of the guy who was guarding every night. Uh, and Kevin KT had a lot of that. What I've never had with Kevin, I've never had a leader like Kevin ever, Like Kevin cleaned up the locker room for me every single day. If shoot a rounds are bad, Kevin patrolled it.

01:01:41
Speaker 8: Uh.

01:01:42
Speaker 11: I mean, when you've got something like that on your team, it makes coaching a whole lot easier.

01:01:47
Speaker 2: How would he have been as a coach?

01:01:49
Speaker 11: Oh, I'll give you a quick story. He was working with the guy uh in Boston, and I don't want to say his name, but the guy wasn't paying attention to Kevin's you know, like Kevin threw him out of the gym, like.

01:02:09
Speaker 12: Literally threw him out.

01:02:10
Speaker 11: The guy went to the other basket, gives the note get out of the gym at last in like two minutes.

01:02:17
Speaker 12: And I walked over to kid.

01:02:18
Speaker 11: I said, you know, when you're working with a guy, you got to have a little more patience.

01:02:24
Speaker 12: He was like, no, I don't. And so, no, that would have been really rough.

01:02:30
Speaker 2: Before we let you go, we have Fritzie's impersonation of you, So we thought that Fritzie would be able to congratulate you on going into the Hall of Fame. Fritzie, I just want to hear this, Okay, here we go.

01:02:41
Speaker 4: I just want to say It's been a great run as a player, as a coach, an ambassador to the NBA. I wish you all the best. You deserve everything you get. I'm glad you go into the hall of my friend congraduates, and you got to give me forty eight. You've got to give me forty eight. Who was a good cap lousion Give me forty eight.

01:02:58
Speaker 12: You know, I need to always talk.

01:03:00
Speaker 2: I don't know what happened.

01:03:03
Speaker 11: You see that play behind me? Yeah, it didn't work. That's why I have the voice.

01:03:08
Speaker 8: That I have.

01:03:09
Speaker 2: Oh that was a play you diagrammed. Last game, guys running each other. Yeah, congratulations on the hall and whatever you decide here at the end of the season. But thank you again for sharing.

01:03:26
Speaker 12: I appreciate good talk to you, good seeing you.

01:03:29
Speaker 2: Thank you, Bud. That's Doc Rivers Hall of Famer.

01:03:32
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01:04:06
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio on YouTube. Subscribe, hit that thumbs up icon and comment away. You know, there were a lot of people that I asked to come on and say goodbye to Seaton. Most said no, but h I got a couple of people who did say yes. Rich Eisen, who will join us, Join us coming up a little bit, and we make way for a friend of the show, Will Ferrell, who is kind enough to spend some time with us. Good morning Will, Good morning Dan.

01:04:35
Speaker 17: How are you, buddy?

01:04:37
Speaker 2: Well, you know, kind of emotional last hour, last This is it for Seaton.

01:04:43
Speaker 17: This is uh baby bird flies the coup?

01:04:47
Speaker 2: Yep, yeah, yeah. Is there anything else you like to say?

01:04:55
Speaker 17: That's all I've got. No. I just I had to reach out, Dan.

01:05:02
Speaker 7: I wanted to, uh just congrat give congratulations to Seaton.

01:05:08
Speaker 2: Did you comb your hair this morning?

01:05:11
Speaker 8: No? I did not.

01:05:11
Speaker 2: Okay, you you look like you're a mess.

01:05:15
Speaker 17: That's I slept in my car last night. But that's a whole nother story. But but no.

01:05:24
Speaker 7: I wanted I wanted to, uh, you know, I heard the news like everyone else.

01:05:27
Speaker 17: I mean, it's big news out here in Hollywood.

01:05:29
Speaker 12: If you're wondering, and.

01:05:31
Speaker 2: Did Variety pick it up?

01:05:33
Speaker 7: Variety tm Z should be out outside the studios there on your departure. But uh, but I wanted to. Uh No, I wanted to, uh just wish you the best.

01:05:48
Speaker 12: Uh.

01:05:48
Speaker 7: I I know that trip to Ireland, meeting up with you guys was was one of the most fun things I've ever gotten to do. And we spent we spent some some some fun conversations talking about your son and his journey and uh playing soccer and I I love that. I love that you're taking taking the time to do all that, and I and Dan kudos to you to allow your team to kind of do things like this.

01:06:18
Speaker 17: You're you're you're building a room onto the.

01:06:20
Speaker 2: House, right, That's it. So yeah, that's the way I see it.

01:06:24
Speaker 17: The question is do you have a proper contractor's license?

01:06:27
Speaker 2: That's what I want. Does he have permit?

01:06:29
Speaker 3: There may be some fans here.

01:06:32
Speaker 2: And are you okay? Are you actually trying to weasel your way into Seaton's chair. Is that you were a Danette for a week in Dublin?

01:06:45
Speaker 17: Are you asking? Do you have my reservations about this Dylan guy?

01:06:48
Speaker 2: Yeah?

01:06:51
Speaker 7: I mean I think the whole listenership is they're just like, Okay, I've heard his voice a couple of times.

01:06:56
Speaker 17: Does he have the chots?

01:06:57
Speaker 11: Can he?

01:06:58
Speaker 17: Uh?

01:06:59
Speaker 8: Does you know?

01:07:00
Speaker 7: Does he have the uh, the same curatorial taste in music the Seaton has coming in and out right.

01:07:08
Speaker 17: Some some nice drops, my friend?

01:07:10
Speaker 8: Nice?

01:07:11
Speaker 2: Thank you sir. Now are you a part owner of a soccer team? Correct?

01:07:17
Speaker 8: I am?

01:07:18
Speaker 2: Okay, Seaton Son is two two teams? Oh okay, so Seaton Son be nice maybe when he you know.

01:07:29
Speaker 17: Ten steps ahead.

01:07:31
Speaker 7: Okay, I already have my advanced scouting team, uh watching uh.

01:07:37
Speaker 2: Little little Karen Karen O'Connor.

01:07:41
Speaker 17: Oh, I thought his name was Jason. Okay, let me get it's Jason.

01:07:46
Speaker 2: It's bad. Okay, that's bad because this Jason, he's really good.

01:07:52
Speaker 17: He's going all the way top of the TA Yeah, first division.

01:07:56
Speaker 2: If Dylan doesn't work out, dot dot dot yes the answers, yes.

01:08:03
Speaker 7: Answers, Yes, Milford, I've already got my sights.

01:08:07
Speaker 8: On a little condo. Uh, what.

01:08:13
Speaker 17: So, Dan, when do you retire?

01:08:17
Speaker 2: February of twenty twenty eight?

01:08:20
Speaker 8: Okay, right, I.

01:08:21
Speaker 17: Think that's when I retired.

01:08:23
Speaker 2: To Oh, I didn't know you retired. Actors don't retire, do they?

01:08:30
Speaker 8: I will. Yeah, I'm gonna. I'm gonna do uh.

01:08:37
Speaker 2: When you pick another month, like when you do it in March, let me have February.

01:08:41
Speaker 17: Okay, fine, I'll do the twenty seventh.

01:08:45
Speaker 2: A week after. Okay.

01:08:46
Speaker 8: Yeah.

01:08:47
Speaker 2: How's the golf series that you were you're doing.

01:08:50
Speaker 17: It's it's I'm very happy with it. It comes out in July.

01:08:53
Speaker 2: Okay, then, yeah, well we'll have you back to promote that.

01:08:58
Speaker 12: We'll come back. I'll come.

01:09:01
Speaker 17: I'd love to come for a meet Friday.

01:09:04
Speaker 2: That'd be nice. We'd love to have you if you come into New York. Then you come up have a meat Friday, and then we just tear it up. You know, how long is that commute up to beautiful Milford. That'll be depending on the time of day, but you know probably you know, an hour thirty five forty minutes.

01:09:25
Speaker 17: That's no big deal.

01:09:26
Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll put you on the Amtrak, bring you up, pick you up at the train stations, get on that sell. Yeah, we'll bring you up and we'll have a meat Friday. You tell us what you want and we will we will cook. We will whip up a batch of meat Friday. Will Ferrellstone.

01:09:44
Speaker 17: One last I want to tell us seen one last thing.

01:09:48
Speaker 7: And and I know everything about taking time off for family.

01:09:53
Speaker 8: I haven't.

01:09:54
Speaker 7: I've made a point not to work during the summers to be with my family. I've missed out on a lot of projects, which is fine. But I think the one thing no one's telling you is is, in my opinion, you.

01:10:07
Speaker 17: May feel differently families.

01:10:08
Speaker 2: Overrated if you had a do over, Like you may be out in.

01:10:16
Speaker 7: The wilderness on this new adventure, you know, six weeks out, and you'd be like, boy, I missed that chair, I really miss that chair.

01:10:23
Speaker 2: But you passed up on some great roles, like some of.

01:10:26
Speaker 18: Them Titanic, the Notebook, Gladiator, Yeah, Crouching Tiger, hitting Dragon, those are all mine.

01:10:41
Speaker 17: Broke Back Mountain.

01:10:42
Speaker 2: I was gonna play, you were gonna play both characters, the two roles of a lifetime. Yeah, take that.

01:10:52
Speaker 17: Michael Jordan's time off to be with the family.

01:10:55
Speaker 7: And and actually I think despite that, I think I made the right choice, so.

01:11:02
Speaker 2: Well, thank you again for your kind words and your support, and uh you let us know when you're headed our way, and we'll let you know when you're we're headed your way.

01:11:14
Speaker 8: I love that.

01:11:14
Speaker 2: I love that motto. Okay, okay, thank you, thank you. That's that's Will Ferrell with some nice words.