C&R - NFL Draft Connects Fans, Pavia Party Flop

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Speaker 2: That's us Steve Covino and Rich Davis. And it's not a show, Kill Daddy, Chill, what about you? Fox Sports Radio Nation. It's not a show without super producer Danny g. He's still celebrating at Fernando pick. He's reading Fernando pen time stories to his baby.

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Speaker 1: What's upon Tiernando? What's upon a time? In Las Vegas?

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Speaker 2: The little quarterback that could, His name was Fernando.

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Speaker 3: Yes, Daddy, Monday Eddy Chill day.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Monday Funday. So we're gonna play last one standing. We're gonna talk Diego, Pavia and pagebackers and more.

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Speaker 1: But let's rock out. Let's go.

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Speaker 2: Also, he had a Fernando weekend, not a Pavia sort of weekend, maybe.

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Speaker 1: A Wemby type of day yesterday.

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Speaker 2: How about a Wemby sort of day, not a Mets sort of weekend?

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Speaker 1: My goodness. Yeah, can I.

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Speaker 2: Sum up my Mets with just a little quick, a little clip from How He Rose, the Mets longtime radio announcer.

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Speaker 1: By the way, here's a fun fact about how He Rose. If it's not.

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Speaker 2: Fun, and then I'm gonna stop listening when you say legendary broadcaster how he Rose? Okay, he's been calling the Mets games since eighty seven and he's retiring this year.

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Speaker 1: Could you say he's the drinks? Yes, I mean you know I saw that recently.

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Speaker 2: Dude. If he started at eighty seven and this is the year he's hanging it up and they're stinking, maybe it's like maybe how He Rose all along I one of the best best in the business.

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Speaker 1: But I mean.

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Speaker 2: You mean the year after they won the World Series, Yeah, he might be the guy.

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Speaker 1: My goodness.

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Speaker 2: This is after the Mets got swept by the Rockies. Even he as the most professional a level broadcaster, just sounded just dejected.

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Speaker 4: And the Colorado Rockies have not only swept a doubleheader, they have swept a three game series from the New York Mets, who today in eighteen innings, managed only one run. They score four runs in three games against the Colorado Rockies, and you know, with an off day tomorrow, you just have to wonder if some kind of move is coming, because there's just nothing happening here right now. For the New York Mets, they have been swept by the Rockies today and in the series and dropped to ten games under the five hundred mark at nine and nineteen.

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Speaker 2: I think Travolta said it best, Lame Mizedablaz. I mean, they are miserable, dude. In that close up. They keep showing up. You know he's probably questioning his life decision along with Wan Soto and the other guys. So yeah, I hope your weekend was better than the Mets. I hope you enjoyed some great NBA.

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Speaker 5: Coravinos kind of weekend because you're about to be a thousand dollars richer.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, buddy, because Rich and I made the bet who has the better record this year? The Yankees are the Mets. Even your dad said, oh, I don't know why you would do that.

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Speaker 1: I had high hopes. Hey, they have one hundred and thirty games left. I mean, anything that happen.

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Speaker 2: Guy. True. So yeah, I'm trying to send into the computer. We're gonna pull up a live chat. The YouTube is up. If you want to stay hi to Danny g and Moncey and really Manzi. People just want to stay hi to Manzi. Yeah, if you want to stay hi and chat it up live, it's at Covino and rich FSR on YouTube at Covino and rich FSR on YouTube. So of the weekend, as we wrapped up the NFL Draft, any big takeaways, any any thoughts or observations, I feel like congratulations. Pittsburgh hosted a hell of a draft that you know started days ago. Oh, and I feel like I'm so amazed. I mean, first off, it's always great to see a young man's life change before our very eyes and change to family stars and you know, see the excitement of these players and see their dreams come true. That's the grand part of it all. Yeah, But to see how many people show up, it's also amazing because we talked about it and touched on it, but it's more and more every year, and Pittsburgh really turned it out. And honestly, on a side note, I thought, what a great opportunity for Brett Michaels and Wis Khalifa like to perform on that stage you're in front of, like and three hundred.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, not just day one, it's day two and then day three they go international things.

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Speaker 2: No, it's and it's millions of people watching at home. It's like anyone's sleeping on the opportunity to perform or get up there and get out there and introduce or like, it's such a big moment, it's such a big platform. So many people are too fascinating. Now listen, it's fascinating. Can we try to dissect that just for a second, because we are going to get to Diego Pavia and I think which is one of the more fascinating stories of the NFL draft.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the fact that he did not get drafted.

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Speaker 2: Oh, it's the thrill of victory, to thrill of being drafted, and then the agony of not before we get into everything from pick number one to the guys that didn't get drafted. What you said does make a lot of sense. No one cares about NFL football more than I do. When I was a younger man, I had barstools reserved at different areas in New York, at Hoboken, I was up at in the morning making my picks, you know, setting my lineups, doing everything much like you guys I'm a football fanatic. I watch them the minute I wake up till I go to sleep. On Sunday, we're watching, Thursday, We're watching Monday night. We are so involved. But I'll be honest with you, I can't understand how three hundred thousand people almost stand there watching the picks. I'll watch from home and watch what you guys, and you know, enjoying the excitement, But you don't think it is a little strange that we're that fanatical, that we stand like one hundred yards away from a stage where some guy announces names.

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Speaker 5: I think it's cool. And you're a forty nine ers fan, so you're a little bit spoiled.

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Speaker 2: But I have question, Let's be honest, by the way, you know how they have you know, when they make they have different people calling the picks and everything. Yeah, of course, even that is such a pressure filled moment. I think, like I would be so nervous in front of three hundred thousand people there worldwide, and then you're on the stage club well, the.

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Speaker 1: Only they're trying to out trash talk each other. Yeah, and everyone has to come up with their own little saying. Yeah.

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Speaker 5: The Ravens international fan who got up there and she she addressed all the Steelers fans and she said, I'll keep this short, like your postseason dude.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you have to come up with a singer or something memory do like that. But I think the only nerve wrecking part, it's not the little one liners of the little quips and stuff. I think it is if you just so happen to your team drafts a guy with a name that you need a pronunciation guide for, Like like if you team draft someone with a very easy name. Look they chose, you know, Jim Thompson is way different than some dude with a name. We are oh boy, oh no, no for real, for real, But just to see this grow to what it is dissected for me one second, because again I love football as much as anyone. We go to games every year, we watch all day every week. Where every day, Danny, what are we texted and talking about football? But to just stand there like two hundred yards away, shoulder a shoulder with other people waiting for like your team's one pick.

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Speaker 5: You just said the word waiting. That's something you don't like, you're add so I don't. I don't see you standing around a draft event.

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Speaker 1: I feel like, is it. Are these the same people they go to Times Square for New Year's Eve? Yeah, they're bigger fans someone.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's the time of people Macy's Thanksgiving Day parade. Like people want to do things.

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Speaker 1: They wear a diaper. You're just spoiled.

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Speaker 2: People that go to the Macy's Thanksgiving Day Parade, they go to New Year's even Times Square, they go to the NFL Draft, that wait in lines and don't buy the fast pass at Disney. They're come from a cloth that like, is the furthest thing from a cloth I would wear.

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Speaker 1: I'm not even cool for that. I'm too cold for that.

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Speaker 2: I don't want to think camp out there and Pittsburgh with my earmufsud, camp.

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Speaker 5: Out overnight in Pasadena, h the for the Rose Parade.

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Speaker 1: I'm good, Danny, It's you're right.

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Speaker 2: I have friends that have done all those things we speak of, and I'm like, huh, don't know. It's like people that you just don't get certain types of people, like people that run marathons.

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Speaker 1: I don't get it. I guess you don't get Sometimes you just won't get it.

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Speaker 6: Two guys actually set a new record for a marathon run in under two hours. That's like running thirteen miles an hour for two hours. That's insane, insane.

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Speaker 5: Okay, I saw that one of the guys that was his first ever marathon, Manzie.

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Speaker 2: Let me ask you that question. What would you be more likely to do? You're a huge NFL fan. You and I talk a lot of fun football. Would you rather stand for fifteen hours in Times Square waiting for the ball to drop? Or stand two hundred yards away from Roger Goodell calling players' names where you're like you could see him feel like a microscope through a telescope.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I think I would pick the NFL draft because that sounds really cold to be in Times Square for like years, and I don't do with cold. And I didn't do that, but I did. I was in London one year years ago at the London Eye and I did the whole thing New Year's which is the same thing, And.

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Speaker 1: So I've checked that. I guess I'll check the NFL drip.

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Speaker 2: What do I mean, unless you go with a group of friends, are you just sort of seeking out other fans of your team?

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Speaker 1: Because I'm sure there's you know, like you'll be like, did you're ye for the experience. Look, there's a there's there's a group of like five or ten packers.

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Speaker 2: Fans will be go, you know, the biggest tailgate sort of experience, but they're not.

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Speaker 1: I don't think there are a lot to be in. But they are drinking out. There are the people will do things and I won't go.

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Speaker 5: Remember too, Rich, there's performance stages going on, NFL experience type things happening.

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Speaker 1: So that's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: If you're a guy like Brett Michaels, right, and you have name recognition, but you really haven't put out a banger since nineteen eighty six, right, what a great opportunity.

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Speaker 1: That's not a knock either. I'm just saying, like.

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Speaker 2: What a major stage for for somebody. So, you know, I think we're gonna see bigger and bigger acts. If that many people are showing up, you're gonna see bigger and bigger acts in the future performing again.

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Speaker 1: I never want to h what do my kids say? What's the phrase in school? Now? I don't want to yuck someone's yum. I hate that. I hate that term. He just kind of I hate when Rich says it and he says it alone.

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm gonna say it for more now when your six year old son says it, it's cute when you say it, you deserve a karate kick.

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Speaker 6: I heard it on Sports Center and I kind of want to vomit. But can I offer up something?

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Speaker 1: I don't want to poopoo on your parade? There you go rain on my parade yet but old school term.

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Speaker 2: But there is a I don't know. There's there's just certain things that I like. The NFL Draft. To me, I I love the excitement of the NFL.

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Speaker 1: More than any want.

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Speaker 2: We work in sports, so I'm not trying to downplay something that's big for our network and everything.

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Speaker 1: But to me, going there and stand there.

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Speaker 2: With hundreds of thousands of people and even like I just saw on one of the TV screens, like Milk Kuiper's grades, they haven't played one snap in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: You're grading them like your professor Kuiper. Get out of here, Rich.

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Speaker 5: This is another away game because fans travel to this to rep their team. When they get up there and they have the chance to select and the record will be broken next year. I was looking the twenty twenty seven NFL Draft gonna be held in the National Mall, Washington, DC.

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Speaker 1: That's gonna be a crazy overhead with.

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Speaker 2: A bigger performer guaranteed right, bigger performances. It's gonna become more and more of a spectacle as time goes on.

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Speaker 1: I'm here to help with the number one pick.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, wasn't I think I was born before this happened. But didn't they get a million people in there for the million man march around that area? Millions and millions a long time ago, at least around a million. I know they'll they'll probably break the record, But can I offer something that a trend that I want to see stopped? And it's the host cities fans like last year Green Bay, this year the Steelers fans leaving after their pick is announced in the first round, like either just stay the whole time, Like I don't like, I don't like the crowds hold on. I don't like the crowds thinning out after the host cities fans because like there's so many Steelers fans, they start heading for the exits. Just hold on another five or six picks to wait till the end.

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Speaker 1: You know what it's like, wait till raps. They're trying to beat the traffics.

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Speaker 6: Oh, come on, give me back the Packers fans of that last year too, and I thought that was weak.

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Speaker 1: Calvino, back me up on this.

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Speaker 2: If you go to your kids like Christmas concert at school, Nah, stay the whole time? No, and they're like your kids in third grade? Do you stick around for fourth, fifth, and sixth grade?

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Speaker 6: You got to be in the back then and ready to just exit through the fire door because we'll seeing a bunch of Especially what if your your fan base is like picking in the top ten and then a third of the people leave and you have two thirds of the first draft round of the draft left that that's a bad look and the crowd looks awesome with three hundred thousand people.

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Speaker 1: I agree with what you're saying. You're already there, you might as well.

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Speaker 6: Other people have bought a ticket to be there the whole weekend, so they're not leaving. But the home fans that you live in the Pittsburgh area or in the Pennsylvania area, you're leaving before the first round's over.

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Speaker 2: I don't have that inner debate every time I go to see my daughter's cheer competitions, or, like Rich said, any sort of recital or anything like that. I'm like, should I just can I go now? So I'm like, when I'm already here, I might as well tough it out.

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Speaker 6: Just the use slipping through the back door where probably people wouldn't notice you versus ten thousand or whatever, fifty thousand fans deciding to head for the exits.

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Speaker 1: That's a different look.

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Speaker 2: And now the fourth graders, Chris time is there's not five people left in the audience.

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Speaker 1: That's when I practice my moonwalk.

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Speaker 2: Oh can I ask one hypothetical and then we'll get to diego. Pavia and your thoughts on people that are grading this draft. I hate the draft grading anyway because people are saying my Niners like overshot once again.

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Speaker 1: So to that another reason you don't like the draft? You know what?

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Speaker 2: Maybe some constantly because the Niners have not drafted well ever. Really you know what I knows though, Here's what it is. People yearn to connect and feel like they're a part of something. A lot of us are fortunate we live in Los Angeles. You know, we get together, especially us we bs every day together.

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Speaker 1: We have a lot of camaraderie.

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Speaker 2: Rich We have a lot of friends that are listeners that we get together with a lot. There's a lot of bored ass people out there that just want to connect. And I say that respect I don't mean that by any no condescenting, condescending way. Or they just want to get out and experienced life and connect people.

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Speaker 1: Use people are looking for connection.

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Speaker 2: Yes, you know, if this is a way to connect with other fans and like minded people and a way to represent, like Danny g said, their colors, their team, their city.

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Speaker 5: Goodell always points the player to his charing section of the fans that came here for the team that he just got drafted to.

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Speaker 2: That's what it is. And it's one of those like if you build it, they will come. Like if you're setting up a big party in a big stage, people are going to show up because people want to get out. As much as we are involved with our our social media and with our nose into our phones, and you know, I think people still want to get out there to balance.

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Speaker 1: That life out a little bit.

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Speaker 2: I looked at my phone the other day it said I spent fourteen hours on social media. That might have been a record for me.

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Speaker 1: No for the week.

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Speaker 2: Oh, at the end of the day, that's you. But must put down phone when you're living that sort of life and the opportunity is there to go to something cool like that, and you don't go out as often as guys like you and I do.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a great opportunity.

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Speaker 2: For some people. And I think we're seeing people show up and that's a cool thing. And it shows you the power of the of the NFL and how big this is. All right, Well, in the jeopardy category of things I would have loved to do in my twenties but not anymore. I'm gonna ask you, guys a hypothetical, what would you least want to do? These are things that I know I would have loved to do in my twenties, but not now. Would you rather go to the NFL draft and stand there for hours and hours or go to Coachella and be there in the public, just in the desert for hours an hour?

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Speaker 1: Honestly?

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Speaker 2: And rather go to Coachella? Here's why there's girls but checking hot. Yeah, there's but cheeks everywhere. No people watching must be ridiculous at Coachella. And even though I don't care about any of the music acts for the most part, there's still a few that I'm interested in and who doesn't like live music regardless. By the way, st stage Coach is just Coachella with a cowboy boochr. I think, yeah, so I'm going and high winds. But man, big big stage, big big moments for all these young guys, and I don't think. I bet you Fernando has zero regrets.

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Speaker 1: You know, you made a.

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Speaker 2: Great point and not saying I'm not pat you know the back too much. But people do want to connect because everything you're saying, whether it be Coachella, stage Coach, the NFL Draft, You're right, it's a lot of people just wanting to be part of something.

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Speaker 1: Dude.

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Speaker 2: We had a big part our big party in Vegas for our twentieth anniversary as a show. Didn't you get the feeling that people just want to go out and have a good time and reminisce and have a drink and be with like minded people. Because when we're throwing a big broadcast or a big event, we wonder who's going to show up, and then you see people show up because they want to connect and they yearn for connection and friendship and fun, and it makes you want to do it again, you know, because you realize that people just want to get out. You know, his life gets mundane and born. And if this is an event for Jada, I'm jaded.

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Speaker 1: No, I'm saying you're you're Yes, you're Humpison.

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Speaker 2: You're trying to say that you're jaded, and people who don't understand really are not living that mundane, boring life that makes you want to get out there and do stuff. I'm saying is you're jaded because you feel like you fulfill your social time by your job is very social.

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Speaker 1: You come in here, you talk to Sam and Sandy said all that. Then how can you say you said all that?

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Speaker 2: Then when I went to say you were onto something, you said, listen back, you're gonna be you want to You're gonna want to bang your own head against the wall.

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Speaker 1: No, absolutely, the oppos I said, you're.

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Speaker 2: Jaded because you you have interactions with other adults every day in a fun way. Yeah, And I said that other people don't get that, and I said that too. Then how are you understanding that you're jaded? How am I jaded? If I already meet how could I be Jada if already made that point?

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Speaker 1: I'm not jaded.

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Speaker 2: I'm very aware of our situation. Well, anyway, move on, you're Jada, because you're the one that's not getting it when you see people Manti, you played what volleyball? Right, like reck volleyball and stuff like that. Like I play softball. I see the guys that I play softball with. That's such a big part believe in of their life because a lot of middle aged guys, a lot of the guys that I play with don't necessarily have wives and kids, so like they just like like to hang at the field. So sometimes because it's like, hey, it's interaction with other adults, and I feel like that's a big part of why these these events happen without a doubt, man, and around the crowd and more oceans of people, it's like a major rock festival and they're just there to hear some names being called, like they got to add to the festivity. So, like I said the same for Comic Con, you could say the same for so the way Comicon people find like minded people and they just want to do something. Yeah, this isn't a stage for Bret Michaels and Wiz Khalifa, And I say that respectfully. Bret Michaels is great and he was a guest on our show over promised. I'm just saying he hasn't put out a really great album in a long time, right, that's a nostalgia act. This is the audience for something huge and current now because there's so many people there, like this.

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Speaker 1: Sh be a rock show.

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Speaker 2: You don't think Roger Goodell and the people running the NFL behind the scenes, like the I guess you would.

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Speaker 1: Say the board of Top EXECX.

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Speaker 2: You don't think they see that and like that makes them salivate more than anything like get Hey Johnson, Yes, Roger, can you believe that we got hundreds of thousands of people.

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Speaker 1: Oceans of feeble, oceans of people to just stand there.

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Speaker 2: It's amazing. So congrats you did it again in NFL. And congrats to Fernando. We talked about that already. Hope you had a Fernando weekend, not a Mets weekend. And a guy that sat there the entire time waiting for his name to be called Diego Pavia. We got to talk about this dude. You could say he's too short, but I say, go short Kings. There's been other short dudes in the NFL that's short. You could say it's an attitude problem, But we asked this question.

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Speaker 1: He's a guy that you know Vanderbilt.

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Speaker 2: QB waited, had a whole party with friends and family, thirty.

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Speaker 1: Two hats laid out on the table.

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Speaker 2: Runner up, runner up, waited for his name to be called and went undrafted. Some people are laughing at this story, and I say, shame on you. Whether he has an attitude or problem or not, he's a young man, and I find it to be more sad than funny. Your thoughts at eighty seven to seven ninety nine on Fox, I think I disagree with you again ninety nine on Fox. All right, well, hey, we got that we're going to play last one standing. Talk a little NBA playoffs, So an action peg Monday, hang type buddies. Now, when production levels change, you need a workforce that flexes to match. Having the right staff to meet productivity isn't just necessary. Keeps cost and manufacturing deadlines in check. And Express well their employment professionals, is your best resources for success. Visit Express Employment Pros to find the local office near you and discover how Express Employment Pros can help you hire smarter and faster. Your local Express team understands skilled labor and can easily connect your business with the right workers when you need them, from assemblers to machinists to quality ConTroll inspectors, maintenance technicians and production managers. Express Employment Professionals has skilled talent you need. As one of the largest industrial staffing companies in the US, Express can help your business stay efficient, flexible, and competitive. Find the local office near you at Expresspros dot com to get local support and avoid the onslaught of online applications and sorting through unqualified candidates. Put people back in charge of hiring with Express. Whether you're ramping up production, managing change, or looking for a solution of skills to a skills gap. Express Employment Pros is your one connection to the right workforce, So visit Expresspros dot com. Express Employment Professionals respecting people impacting business.

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Speaker 1: We got to talk Page Beckers. But now diego.

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Speaker 2: Pavia ooh, sad or funny? Which first send stinct? My first think is heartbreaking. It really is heartbreaking because you know, I think the feeling and we described it before when we throw parties, you know, you you.

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Speaker 1: You hope people show up.

00:24:44
Speaker 2: Right in this case, not only are you hoping that people show up to celebrate, but you're hoping your name's called when it's not.

00:24:51
Speaker 1: That's the weakest feeling in the.

00:24:53
Speaker 2: World, dude, How could it be any weaker? You know, here you are at the TI on the top of the world. You're a Heisman Trophy finalist, and now you're not even call it the draft in front of all your friends and family. That's deflating, dude. I'm throwing the thirty two hats on the table and like having the whole setup.

00:25:10
Speaker 1: Waiting to be called that.

00:25:13
Speaker 2: That's a bit much of a setup when there's no guarantees, right, what do we do? Last year we made fun of shad Or Sanders because he had like a private party. Remember shad Or had a private party sponsored and all this, all the bells and whistles and like pick by pick went by. Teams teams skipped on him multiple times, and it became sort of funny. That's like, ya, this dude's not even getting drafted anytime soon. He has a party, sad and you know, it's like he's one of the older draft picks or draft these, whatever you want to call it. But he's still a twenty four year old kid. I matine if that was your family member or your buddy, or your friend or your boyfriend or your son, you know, and you just want their dreams to come true and you're so close and you did everything you could and then it works against you. Now do you remember accountability matters? By the way, in school, where if he didn't know if you were going to make the team or I don't know, the school play, and the coach or the teacher would put the list up and everyone would run over and say where's my name on the list? According to you, you think it's funny to be left out, Only not everybody makes it.

00:26:12
Speaker 1: I get it right.

00:26:13
Speaker 2: First of all, this guy winning with no agent, right, he had all those f Indiana antics. Apparently at meetings with teams, Danny were telling me he was saying things like, I want to be a starter, and that's you know, it's like, gug give you the analogy. If you fill in on a wreck team in basketball, softball, anything.

00:26:30
Speaker 1: When they ask you, hey, what position do you play? What do you do? You know what?

00:26:33
Speaker 2: The answer always says, hey, whatever you need, whatever you need me to do, I'm here to help.

00:26:36
Speaker 1: That's the better answer.

00:26:37
Speaker 2: But for a quarterback and as a leader, you don't want a guy with a little gusto or what.

00:26:42
Speaker 1: He's too short. So he didn't earn that. No, but I think it was a Heisman finalist.

00:26:46
Speaker 5: But well, we should mention really quick the facts on this. He did not have a good pro day. It looked like a lot of the balls were late to the receivers. It looked like it took all his effort to get some of the throws made. And so that more than anything, to ask yourself, why do some players jump up draft boards because of the combine, because of workouts, because of their pro day and this besides the attitude stuff.

00:27:12
Speaker 1: He kind of went backwards a little bit with the abilities.

00:27:15
Speaker 2: No, no doubt of course, Danny. And again you could say, I get what you're saying, Kavio. You might you would interpret that as like, yo, he wants it, but you also have to be really saying. Depending on who says that, it could be like, oh, man, I love that attitude, but because this dude said it, it's like, oh, they're using that.

00:27:32
Speaker 1: Against I want to be a starter. I want to be a starter.

00:27:35
Speaker 2: That dude entering the NFL doesn't want to be a starter because he said he's getting chested. It's like a guy showing up for Rex softball that is the filling guy, and he's like, yeah, usually.

00:27:43
Speaker 1: He's the short filling guy. He was a start Vanderbilt and a Heisman runner up.

00:27:47
Speaker 2: Well guess Soddy also didn't get drafted. It's an attitude issue. And if that's the case, then fine, but work with it because there's a lot of dudes, a lot of crappy dudes in the NFL with attitude issues. I think it's it's the fact that he's a quarterback and he's you know what. They list him at five nine and seven eighths or something like that, so he's he's just under five as he.

00:28:06
Speaker 1: Didn't have good hair product in that.

00:28:08
Speaker 2: Seriously, if you were a hide increasing cleats, he's right there. He's in Kyler Murray Area five toot ten. But I think the Ravens invited him to mini camp after going undrafted.

00:28:17
Speaker 1: But the question is, you know, when you.

00:28:19
Speaker 2: See all the the the hoopla, all the you know, hats laid out there and the party and all the people that showed up to not get called, some people are laughing at this situation, like good his kids thinks anyway.

00:28:32
Speaker 1: Rich was one of them off the heir. And then there's another side of ways that's presumptions.

00:28:38
Speaker 2: That's kind of it's also kind of a sad situation. I don't know how you don't see that. So I'm I'm hoping he uses this as fuel to his fire and takes it sort of next level. But he's not the only short guy to ever, you know, play in the NFL or potentially play in the NFL. The question in our pre meeting was who's the shortest quarterback to ever win a Super Bowl? What comes to I know Danny knows because you're Russell Wilson. Yeah, Russell Wilson. You are eleven because we both said Drew Brees, but he's in the list, Russell Wilson, five to eleven. But when you start thinking or looking up, and it's very much like a girlfriend question, who's the shortest quarterback to ever play in the NFL? Like I don't know, how do you not know? You're on Fox Sports? Like I don't know that. Eddie LeBaron five foot seven, nicknamed the Little General, what a weak nickname? Little General played for the Cowboys in the fifties. Davy O'Brien, Both guys won in the NFL. That was before they were like, yeah they had black players, Yeah, played for the white guys played football at five seven nineteen thirty nine, nineteen forty. Pard Pierce was five foot five in nineteen twenty for the now what is now the Chicago Bears, and then Kyler Murray's on that list at five to ten. So look, we get it. At quarterback, it's a disadvantage. You could barely see over your own offensive line, but you know funny or sad to not have your name called the biggest night of your life.

00:30:08
Speaker 1: No, I think the financial surprise.

00:30:11
Speaker 2: It would be the most first time rich since twenty fourteen, since Jordan Lynch of Northern University Northern Illinois University to not get drafted after being a Heisman finalist. I think the financial surprise might be the most shocking because you may say, well, it's about the love of the game.

00:30:29
Speaker 1: But you get drafted and there's a good child.

00:30:32
Speaker 2: Have you signed any type of rookie deal, you're at least ensuring your family like a pretty nice payday, Like even if you don't last in the NFL, you're a millionaire. Like that you don't get drafted. He's as good as I'll be honest him being invited to camp. You could be invited to camp, not saying you'll be invited. But he's a he wasn't drafted. He has to now take the hard path.

00:30:53
Speaker 5: It looks like he has made two million dollars in nil money.

00:30:57
Speaker 1: Thanks good for him.

00:30:58
Speaker 2: But with that two million, it looks like he rented some sort of room to party with his family.

00:31:02
Speaker 1: They had all the hats laid out. You returned those to Dixpard and Goods hats.

00:31:05
Speaker 2: They had like like an easel setup with a big giant picture of him with Vanderbilt number two. They had one of those giant number two light up things. Yeah, but that cost a few bucks.

00:31:16
Speaker 5: And of course jokesters put fake hats in front of the NFL hats like showing Panda Express and.

00:31:25
Speaker 1: Enterprise car Rentals stuff like that. Yeah.

00:31:27
Speaker 5: I saw that all weekend and I'm like, okay, you made that meme and you're laughing, but where do you work?

00:31:34
Speaker 2: So the story is let me let me be clear on where I stand. The story is, Yeah, he's short. Okay, I can't do anything about that, but he's short for a quarterback.

00:31:43
Speaker 1: Yeah.

00:31:43
Speaker 2: Second, attitude issues, right, that was the that's the real bottom line.

00:31:47
Speaker 6: Of alerting issues and the way he carries himself and the way he carries Himsel comes off arrogant, but.

00:31:53
Speaker 2: Still he's a twenty four year old young man and because of that, he's someone's kid, he's someone's family member. I'm saying, regardless of attitude issues. I mean, last I checked, NFL is not like the prime example of you know, people with great attitudes. I do feel bad for him, So I understand, but I do feel bad because that is embarrassing. I mean, that's the most embarrassing. I don't feel bad. I mean, MANSI you're shaking you. You don't feel bad.

00:32:20
Speaker 4: Huh.

00:32:20
Speaker 3: I don't feel aboud it at all, not even a little bit.

00:32:23
Speaker 2: If you were, if you were there, you'd feel bad. I just what you said, I get drafted. I didn't even get He needs.

00:32:28
Speaker 3: To have a realistic expectation of how he was viewed, and if you do not, you're not.

00:32:34
Speaker 1: I'm sorry you keep saying young man.

00:32:36
Speaker 3: Okay, yes, twenty four years old, but you made two million in NIL. You have been under the spotlight and you have not changed your ways in any way, shape or form. I don't feel bad for you. He knew exactly what he was doing. You want to say, I don't want an agent because they don't. I don't want them to take my money. Okay, you don't worry about it. You didn't get drafted. Your agent isn't taking anything.

00:32:56
Speaker 1: He had an NFL agent. He didn't. He did not have an NIL agent.

00:32:59
Speaker 2: He also led the Huskies to back to back twelve win seasons in twenty twelve.

00:33:03
Speaker 1: You're talking, I'm talking about Lynch.

00:33:05
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, Pavia again, first guy since Lynch to do that. So I'm just reading these stats here. He's the first undrafted Heisman Trophy finalist since twenty fourteen.

00:33:17
Speaker 1: So, but Heisman means nothing translation to the NFL. Yeah.

00:33:21
Speaker 2: I had the same conversation with my mom, and maybe because he's a Vato local forever, she probably felt even more bad for him. So I'm like, yeah, but you know, Heisman means it doesn't mean he's gonna translate in the NFL. You could be a good college player or not be good in the NFL. But he could have followed the strong lines of Jeff Garcia, Jim Plunkett. Hey, you know what, Mark Sanchez, Tony Romo. I have a I have an analogy. Yeah that I'm going to get to right after a Manci's update, and I'm going to compare myself to an NFL GM And you're gonna be like, that's actually true.

00:33:53
Speaker 1: So hang tight.

00:33:54
Speaker 2: I'm gonna explain something why I think the NFL draft is so circumstantial.

00:34:00
Speaker 1: So Monzie, give me up date. Let's see what's going on, all right, guys.

00:34:04
Speaker 3: Well, the news of the day comes out of college football As Texas Tech quarterback Brendan Soresby, formerly at Cincinnati before he transferred, will take any media indefinite leave of absence from the football program to enter a residential treatment program for a gambling addiction. He is under unseble investigation for making thousands of bets through a gambling app thousands of bets.

00:34:27
Speaker 1: All right. When it comes to the.

00:34:28
Speaker 3: NFL, veteran wide receiver Marcus Veldas Scantling is signing a one year deal with the Cowboys. By the way, George Pickens has not signed his franchise tag just yet. Vikings of exercise a fifth year option on wide receiver Jordan Addison after missing Day three of the NFL Draft to be with his family. Patriots head coach Mike Rabel back at work with the team today. All right. When it comes to the NBA seventy six or.

00:34:49
Speaker 2: Call uls cured apparently apparently apparently right.

00:34:55
Speaker 1: Have you guys seen the AI videos of Rabel on Maury?

00:34:58
Speaker 3: Yes, so scared because of how good it looks like realistic, So scary times, but that was hilarious. Seventy six Ers star joel En beid He Pendicitis hasn't played probable for Tuesday's Game five against the Celtics. Shamschranio was on the Pat McAfee show. He said Luka Doncic will not play in the Lakers first round series against the Rockets, but Austin Reeves could return for Game five. On Wednesday, Timberwolves announced that Anthony Edwards is considered a week to week after being diagnosed with a hyper extended knee and a bone bruise. And lastly, here guys, in baseball, Blue Jays pitcher Max Scherzer, he's been placed on the fifteen day I l with right fum tendonitis and left ankle inflammation. He is one strikeout away from thirty five hundred strikeouts.

00:35:42
Speaker 1: Back to you guys.

00:35:43
Speaker 2: Wow, Hey, by the way, I'm not trying to throw the pot here at all. I don't even want to talk about it. But I do have a question. You know, with Rabel missing the third day and everything and all that sort, you think we're going to see anything else or is that the last of it? You think that was the last of it.

00:35:57
Speaker 5: I feel like he missed the second half of the so he could tell the media, Hey, I took care of the problem.

00:36:05
Speaker 1: Yeah, that way he could kind of like turn the page.

00:36:07
Speaker 2: Are you saying we're gonna say, like photos of them at the melting problems something.

00:36:12
Speaker 3: The photos are going to pop up. I think if people have photos of them of the last six years, we may see some more.

00:36:19
Speaker 1: It's I don't think it's over. Unfortunately, a story that just never ends. Like we said last week.

00:36:23
Speaker 2: Maybe they maybe they have like legit real feelings for each other and it's an unfortunate circumstances and they agree, like I feel bad for.

00:36:30
Speaker 1: Them in a way.

00:36:31
Speaker 2: You know, Diego Pavia went undrafted and I'm reading more articles about him. People are saying he's perfect as a WWE heel, Like that's the type of attitude he has, Like maybe he has a career in wrestling. Do you feel bad that he can get drafted and had this big party or do you actually take joy and laughing at it?

00:36:49
Speaker 1: Let us know.

00:36:50
Speaker 2: Plus, we're gonna play last one standing you more you feel bad or not for Pavia, We'll do that and like have you no set a game? And I told you have this analogy and it has to do with the NFL draft and the grating system.

00:36:59
Speaker 1: And so why I think it is just absurd. We'll get to all that next right here Fox Sports Radio.

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00:38:14
Speaker 2: Covino and Rich on Fox Sports Radio, I'm Covino, that's the heartless Rich Davis and Manzi. By the way, kid was raised by a single mom. You expect them to have all the answers at twenty four. Then you guys, listen to that Michael Beasley interview. You don't know what people go through. I saw some of that.

00:38:31
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was wild that interview.

00:38:34
Speaker 2: Are you gonna send Diego Bobby to his life an edible arrangement or something?

00:38:38
Speaker 1: What are you gonna do?

00:38:39
Speaker 2: I'm with Cono saying there's a lot of dysfunctional people in the NFL. So to claim he had an attitude prolem where he was extra he was overly confident, because that's what's piece of spy. So that's also what pushes people like top of the draft board.

00:38:53
Speaker 5: Also, it's things that are reported from quote unquote sources like.

00:38:56
Speaker 2: Because he has passed, but you think he's the you think he's the only guy in the NFL.

00:39:02
Speaker 1: But everybody goes through things.

00:39:03
Speaker 3: Cavino, and like you said, two million already in college. I wish I could have made two million in my life.

00:39:08
Speaker 2: But I'm not laughing at the fact that he got left there hanging, you know, had a big party, hoping for his stars to change.

00:39:15
Speaker 1: But he would laugh at somebody else's expense.

00:39:18
Speaker 6: I don't know that if he wasn't five nine, we wouldn't be talking.

00:39:21
Speaker 2: I guess what as a guy that's five ten and three fourths to support the short king there isn't.

00:39:28
Speaker 1: Sure I'm above average. I don't get into a S two.

00:39:31
Speaker 2: Hey, dude, for a guy that's white, you're on the shorter end. I'm Italiana Mexican. That's tall, six ft tall, short for a white guy. Yeah, you should be embarrassed, not me, because for my people, I'm big. For yours, you're little. The average height for a man in this country is five nine ye five ten and three fourths.

00:39:48
Speaker 5: We don't know for sure what Shador Sanders said last year to teams. We don't know for sure what Pavias said to teams. But what do we know for sure? That's the thing, like we can what do we see on tape? Rick Ruben Bain Junior, some of the smallest arms in the history of the NFL draft. He still went fifteenth over all to the Bucks. He's practically a Tyrannosaurus Rex.

00:40:10
Speaker 2: So yeah, So anyway, he's the first guy since twenty fourteen to Dinner to be a Heisman finalist and not get drafted. But the story is this, there's probably a reason. However, he's still a young man, and he had this big party, hoping that's the point.

00:40:27
Speaker 1: He had this big party, draft party, and nothing happened on embarrassing.

00:40:33
Speaker 2: He may end up in a quarterback room in the NFL and everything will be fine. But by the way, speaking of which, today's the birthday of Arch Manning, twenty two years old, which I'm guessing next year we'll.

00:40:41
Speaker 1: Be talking about him around this time. You'd imagine perhaps I wouldn't say another two years.

00:40:47
Speaker 6: He came in with huge expectations and I don't know if he's quite got there yet.

00:40:50
Speaker 1: No, I agree with that completely.

00:40:52
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00:41:45
Speaker 1: Now, I said, how do I how do I.

00:41:47
Speaker 2: Feel like I'm comparing myself to an NFL GM because when they grade these things always like based on what you don't know the needs like an NFL player, an NFL player a college kid, meaning it could be drifted into a based on a roster need. They could fit a schemer system, They could be a long term solution for something the team needs. They can actually just agree with the philosophy more than maybe a more talented kid on the board. We forget these intangibles. And I say this because I'm not the only dad or mom out there right now that deals with like, all right, we're doing the All Star Summer travel teams in sports, and I this week have to go over the list of who's going to be on the All Stars, like the travel kid travel kids, and to me, aren't some of the factors like what kid I think I could coach best?

00:42:33
Speaker 1: What kid listens to me the most?

00:42:35
Speaker 2: Like who who do I feel like has the most upswing for a little kid that I feel like I could I could teach because it automatically the best kids. What if the best kid's got a sour puss on his face the whole time.

00:42:49
Speaker 1: There's so many ways to look at this.

00:42:50
Speaker 2: I don't know, Like because what if it's the worst kid, but you could be hugely impactful in his life.

00:42:54
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know how to look at this when they're that little.

00:42:57
Speaker 2: No, I'm saying, like, so this common allies at every stage, from literally to the pros.

00:43:01
Speaker 1: It's not just are they the best player? Right?

00:43:03
Speaker 2: So your thoughts at Covin on Rich and we're gonna play uh last one standing next hour, So let's go.

00:43:09
Speaker 1: Let's get involved.