Hour 2 – Michael Silver, Aaron Rodgers’ Future

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Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: It's our two on this Thursday, Dan and the Dan. It's Dan Patrick's show. We'll check in with Mike Silver, the athletic columnist, and he had a lengthy article, a deep dive on the Raiders situation and Max Crosby's future. There he'll join us, coming up Jay Glazer next hour. He'll give us some thoughts on Aaron Rodgers' future, also some of the other quarterbacks and where they might be headed. Eight seven seven to three DP Show email address DP at danpatrick dot Com Twitter handle. A DP show stat of the day brought to you by Panini America, the official trading cards of the Dan Patrick Show. And we'll have a new poll question here for hour two and we uh, we'll get to your phone calls as well. Seatan, would you give me an update on the Hey Todd, what are you doing in here? Did you forget to give me some paperwork? Okay? All right? Uh, Seatan, what's the poll question for? Well, we'll clean up our two? Are our one and moved our two? This is the lou Holtz pole question. When you are putting your pants on, you do left leg first, right leg first, two and jump or need a fulcrum? Are your options right now?

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Speaker 3: Left leg first has about fifty seven percent of that vote, followed by right leg first, the two and jump aka the Paul Pabst has four point one percent. That's about forty people. My people, Todd and the need a fulcrum crew that's at about.

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Speaker 2: A dozen people. Yeah, I'm gonna need to see both of you guys in action getting into your respective pants. Need a full crumb. Some of the headlines here the Patriots have moved on from Stefan Diggs, the Rams pick up Trent McDuffie the defensive back from the Chiefs, and Lou Holtz passing away at the age of eighty nine. I've been talking about the Raiders a lot, and much to the chagrin of Raiders, because I've been talking about you're going to draft Fernando Mendoza. Just don't recreate what happened with the Colts with Andrew luck where they didn't have a good offensive line for a while and then by the time they did he was ready to retire. But Mike Silver has an article. He is a senior national writer for The Athletic and this has to do with Max Crosby and Max's future. Max was not happy when he was I don't think he was a healthy scratch, but he did want to play. In those last two games, the Raiders wanted to make sure that they were tanking. They wanted to make sure they got Fernando Mendoza. Well, mission accomplished. But what's the future of Max Crosby. Michael silver Back on the program, Mike, good to talk to you again. If you were going to sum up the state of the Raiders, how would you do that in a couple of sentences, I'll.

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Speaker 4: Do it even quicker. They're a mess and damn that's usually the case when a team goes four and thirteen and three and fourteen, fires coaches after each season. But yeah, in this case, they don't have a lot of valuable trade assets. They're obviously in need of a rebuild, and so just on paper, taking the emotion out of it, it doesn't make sense to think about trading Max Crosby. They're asking for a Micah Parsons like Hall. I think that's probably a little ambitious, But there are many teams trying to get Max Crosby, and he's getting older. He would be going on his sixth head coach if you count Rich Pasacio, who had a long interim stint, and you know, he definitely wants out of there. So you know, in some ways this is a simple equation. He wants to go. They need assets and to get younger. We'll see if they pull the triggers soon or if this tracks on a little bit.

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Speaker 2: Okay, give me the teams at the front of the line for Max.

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Speaker 4: You know, I'm not exactly sure which teams. My colleague Diana Rossini has been all over this, and I'm sure she will be at the forefront, you know, in the coming days. I know that it makes sense for Max Crosby that he wants to go to a team that has a chance to contend, something that has not been the case during his Raiders' tenure. They did sneak into the playoffs during that interim Basata year. Other than that, it's been rough. But you know, I look at teams like say, the Patriots, the Ravens. There's been a lot of talk about the Bears. I think the Cowboys, who have signaled their willingness to be aggressive, you know, coming off of the Parsons trade, and then going out and getting Quinn Williams would be a team that I'd look at. But you know, it's not like he has veto power, you know, he could he could threaten to retire if it was another situation that he thought was pretty desperate. I thought the Raiders might be working with him and his agent a little, you know, more blatantly here and trying to find a spot. Their attitude seems to be, hey, we're just going to take the best deal, so we'll see how it plays out.

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Speaker 2: And the Raiders are set on Mendoza correct, no matter yes, what they're offered.

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Speaker 4: You know, I think if the Jets wanted to do something insane right and give up tons and tons of capital, they would listen for sure. And the Jets are setting it too, so that probably makes the most sense. So I would say Mendoza no matter what, assuming they you know, are set on drafting somebody. You could make a case if they're offered something massive they would listen. But yeah, I would strongly expect Mendoza to be the guy. And you know, they have a chance to try to do what they should have done last year and be on about their situation, you know, build it back up and and try to do it in a more organic way. Last year was trying to split the difference, and we saw how that worked out.

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Speaker 2: How did the Raiders get here?

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Speaker 4: You know, it starts at the top ten And I obviously covered Al Davis really closely. You know, got banned from the facility and from the locker room on several occasions. It was not you know, it was not milk and honey. But you know, I always had so much respect for Al Davis being one of the icons of football and obviously had a lot of football knowledge. There were organizational issues that you know, kept them from being able to recapture that past glory. And really since since that two thousand and two run to the Super Bowl, they've only been in the playoffs twice and have not won a playoff game. So, you know, that whole Raider commitment to excellence thing that that is a relic and a lot of young people have no idea what those slogans would possibly stand for. You know, Mark Davis was not a football icon. He was like many next generation owners, just kind of you know, born into it. He's tried to find his way. So I do think it starts at the top the column I wrote, The Athletic explores some of the other dysfunction in that building. And now you have Mark Davis doing something which on paper, I think most people would agree is an exciting thing. He's turning to Tom Brady, one of the most ruthless competitors and greatest winners I've ever seen in Andy Sport, and saying, Tom, you're a minority owner, give me the blueprint. But Brady's not there. He's working for Fox, He's living at Florida, as is his prerogative. He's got Alex Grrero, who's someone he's close to in the building as the wellness coordinator, but sounds like Alex Carrero from talking to players and coaches and other people in that building, is you know, presenting himself as someone far more powerful. He's certainly perceived as a guy who will go running to Brady with any anything he sees or hears, and that does not seem to be a great environment. And it's part of the equation when it comes to Max Crosby's desire to get out of there.

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Speaker 2: But Tom Brady is running the raiders.

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Speaker 4: I mean, Mark Davis said it. You know, that's kind of what we all believed last year, and then when they fired Pete Carroll, Mark Davis issued a statement and said general manager John Spytek will lead this search in all football operations with Tom Brady. So you know, you've got a first time general manager in Spytek who's working hard, trying to do a tough job. But it's you know, Mark David came out and said Tom Brady's doing it too. So again, on paper, that's exciting Tom Brady. You know, I've seen him defy odds and galvanize people around him in a way that is mind boggling. And you know, I think it's just hard in the NFL for us, you know, watching this from the outside to think, you know, someone could do that from afar. And I can't tell Tom Brady how to live his life. He's getting paid a lot of money to be a broadcaster, he's a father, he's you know, got a residence across the country. But you know, I think what's hard for people in that building is when somebody is going around kind of acting like, hey, I'm the pipeline to Tom, but doesn't have those credentials on the football side. That's that's kind of a recipe for confusion.

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Speaker 2: He's Michael Silver, senior national writer for The Athletic. Before I let you go, I was always wondering about this. It felt like Brady was a mentor to Shodoor Sanders, that Dion had asked Tom to kind of help Shadoor. And then Tom's in a position to draft shoeddor Sanders on a team that needed a quarterback or maybe develop a quarterback, and they didn't. They passed over Shador, you know, every single round there. It just seemed strange that Tom knew Shador He's in a position to draft Shoedoor and didn't pull the trigger on that.

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Speaker 4: Why well, you know, that goes back to the is Tom all in or is Tom not all in? If I recall Tom's comment after didn't get drafted was kind of like, yo, I'm not in charge of that, and so you know again, and that may be true and well meaning, right Tom at the time might have been like, hey, look, I'm not going to come in and try to be the overlord of this organization. I'm going to let John Spike and Pete Carroll on my football people do what they think is best. You know, Now it seems to be more blatant. Mark Davis is coming out and saying it, so you kind of have to own it. But yeah, I think Dan that goes back to everything that we're talking about. Is Tom Brady actually all in? Is he running it? What message are people inside the building getting about the power structure and the vision and how it's playing out. So it's probably a positive development that Mark Davis tried to spell it out and that, you know, and that they have a coach who they in Surry can try to build something with. And I love Pete Carroll. He's literally one of the greatest coaches of his generation. I think he's the Hall of Fame. So I don't want to in any way say that hiring Pete Carroll, you know, was a negative, but it kind of flew in the face of what their situation was, given his age and his desire to win immediately, and it obviously didn't work.

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Speaker 2: Good stuff is always, Mike, good to talk to you, Thanks for joining us.

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Speaker 4: Thank you, JEP.

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Speaker 2: That's Michael Silver, Senior National writer for The Athletic. You read the article and you're like, oh boy, and it's not just about Max Crosby, but really that's the microcosm of how it feels like the organization is being run. Fernando Mendoza, that's a big, big lift for this franchise that you got somebody that you want to tune in and watch. I would trade Max Crosby. You're not ready to win now, he doesn't want to be there. I don't know what you can get for him. You're not getting a Michael Parsons Hall. But you know, Michael said maybe the Cowboys. So the Cowboys just had this with Michah Parsons and let him go, and it felt like they made the right decision. You know, in retrospect, I can side with Jerry Jones. Now I'm finding more information out about that whole scenario and Micah, how he was viewed. Did teammates like him, you know, so there's a lot more I think that maybe that will surface. But I did find that out recently, and they made the right decision. I believe that. I just don't know, do you then now go out and get Max Crosby and give up some of the things that you got for Michael Pyson's I wouldn't. I mean, that defense is really suspect, but the secondary is what I would try to firm up. I would have said to the Kansas City Chiefs, Hey, Trent McDuffie, we'd love to have him. I don't know if you could get into a bidding war there with the Rams, but if I'm well, a lot of teams, there aren't many great cornerbacks where you go. That guy's a lockdown cornerback, and at that age. So but Mike's columns available at the Athletic Chooch in Toledo.

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Speaker 5: Hey chooch, Hey, good morning, DP six foot to sixty. First of all, I wanted to say, I find it interesting that you equate your flatulence with the Cleveland Browns. I wanted a little explanation on that. But I as I'm listening to everybody, and you know, with regards to Lou Holtz and the Browns, I did want to get your opinion on a new head coach with the Browns. By the way, I do put my address shoes on in dress, socks on before I go right leg first. But back to that, as I blue Holtz was by hero between nineteen eighty eight and nineteen eighty nine, Notre Dame was unbelievable. The Cleveland Browns had a couple of opportunities to.

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Speaker 4: Get into the big show.

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Speaker 5: And since that decade, it's been a horrible existence for me, a lout of therapy. I just I feel like, and I'm skipping over to college football now. I feel like we're losing that one component that Lou always preached, and that's the development of young men. And with all of these payments and now Missouri with state tax exemptions, everything's all over the place. And you know, my young son says, Dad, is college football turning into pro football? And I just I feel like we're losing that.

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Speaker 2: It's more of a mess. Like the NFL isn't a mess, like they have complete control and thanks for the phone call. College football is a mess. It is, And blame this on you know, the leaders in college football, athletic directors, presidents. You don't have rules, and if you have rules, they're not enforced, they're vague. It just became how did we get here? And it didn't take long and we don't even know what the endgame is. I know the president is inviting people to the White else. I think that might be today or tomorrow, and they want to talk about this. This is what college football, from what I'm told is really hoping for that. Congress gets involved. Congress has other things, don't worry about right now, not nil. How about you leaders, you educators, Why don't you guys figure this out because you're the ones that allowed this to happen right in front of you, all of you. Nobody cares about, you know, geographical alignment. Nobody cares about conferences, Like do kids even go to class anymore? I've brought this up. I can't imagine somebody being academically ineligible. I used to be. That happened a lot. I haven't heard about it in years that Hey, somebody didn't qualify. Somebody's academically and eligible. I mean, there was a player who went six years and didn't graduate. How does that happen? Yes, Marvin, you.

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Speaker 6: Know how much they're paying that kid that's got a one point seven gpo? I oh, he's playing I.

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Speaker 7: Know, yeah, Paul, and vice versa. Someone graduates in four years, but they're in their six year playing college football. Are they attending classes?

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Speaker 2: Do they have to? I don't even know. I don't even know. I really don't.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: And that kind of why school should be for students and athletics should be for athletes.

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Speaker 2: That's been an argument for a long time because I said, they're not student athletes, they're athletic students.

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Speaker 3: Let the students go to school and let the athletes h athlete.

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Speaker 2: If this is what your major is, then let you. I'm going to let you major in. I have a broadcasting school. Your major is sportscasting. Your degree is in sportscasting. We're not kidding anybody. You still have to take core classes. Your degree is in sportscasting. Take a break here, We're going to talk to Jay Glazier. Will join us next hour. More of your phone well, update the pull results back after this.

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Speaker 2: The Rams have traded nine of their last ten first round picks, go back to twenty seventeen. They didn't have a first round pick because they traded it to the Titans the year before to move up and take Jared Goff. Twenty eighteen traded the first round pick to the Patriots for Brandon Cooks. Twenty nineteen traded their first round pick to the Falcons for more picks. Twenty twenty and twenty twenty one traded their first round picks to the Jags in a trade for Jalen Ramsey. Twenty twenty two to twenty twenty three first round pick went to the Lions along with Jared Goff. They got Matthew Stafford. Twenty twenty four, they used their first round pick on Jared Verse, twenty twenty five traded their first round pick to the Falcons for a package of picks that included the Falcons first round pick. This year, and now the Rams agreeing to trade their first round pick to the Chiefs for Trent McDuffie. So it's worked out for them, but their philosophy, they haven't changed their philosophy it's first round picks. Okay, they're valuable, but let's get a sure thing now. Jared Verse turned out to be a very good defensive lineman. Jared Goff helped you get to a super Bowl. Jared Goff helped you get Matthew Stafford. Jalen Ramsey helped you win a Super Bowl. You've had proof of concept here with this over the last decade. And give credit to Les Snead and Sean McVay. They were aggressive with this, but this was a glaring need because when you watch the Rams, they had everything to win the Super Bowl except for somebody who was going to lock down your best receiver. And if you're allowing quarterbacks throw for over three hundred yards three touchdowns against you, Sam Darnold, Bryce Young, Jalen Hurts, I mean, these mac jones, these aren't great quarterbacks that are carving you up. These are good quarterbacks, and you're making them look great. They had a mission. They went out and got him. But if i'm Kansas City could have gotten more for Trent McDuffie. Now you're gonna have to pay him after next year or maybe this year coming up, but you're getting a really valuable player, and that's what was surprising with Kansas City. Kansas City still believes they're winning now. But I don't know when Patrick Mahomes is coming back. I don't know what's going to happen at the tight end position. I mean, it feels like they're going to try to patch this together just to make the playoffs and then hope, you know, Mahomes is Mahomes and then maybe you could do some damage.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, Paul, going back to the Rams draft history twenty seventeen, round three, Cooper Cup, twenty sixteen, round four, Tyler Higbee, I think he's still on the roster.

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Speaker 2: He's still a good player.

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Speaker 7: They got Whokin Nakou was a fifth rounder. Kyron Williams the running back, very good career fifth rounder. Those are some cheap options.

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Speaker 2: But that that's the difference between an average franchise, a good one and a great one is I want to know what you do with your other draft picks, because what happens is we focus on the first round. Now, if you're die hard, then you're going to watch or maybe you only care about your team with the other you know, two extra days with the draft. But this is where teams win championships. When you look back and you go, what round did they get him in a free agent or they traded for him? You know the Chiefs with Isaiah Pacheco, seventh round, that's where you win. Your first rounder has to hit, has to especially if you're going to trade a lot trade up to get somebody at quarterback. Has to hit. But these other draft picks, I mean, that's where it's so important. You know, when you're getting a steal in the fifth round, sixth round, seventh round. Everybody had the opportunity to take this person, but you made it work. And that's why the Chiefs have been so good. The Ravens for years were so good. Just that first round pick. It's what do you do with all those other picks. Stefan Diggs got released, got cut, and he had a thousand yards this year. I didn't think he was threatening, though. It's weird when I watch them play. That's what was amazing with Drake May you know, really good running backs. I just didn't think he had like Hunter Henry's not scaring anybody. They didn't have that Oh my gosh, you got that guy. Now, maybe that guy's Aj Brown, because it certainly feels like AJ Brown is either going to end up on Buffalo or New England. And if I'm Philadelphia, I'm going to try to leverage that between two teams in the same division who may want the same guy. But AJ Brown. All right, Drake May now you got your guy. Now AJ Brown is the go to guy. But if I'm Josh Allen, I'm like, you know, we got some good tight ends and I love my running back, but can I get that guy? I can really use that guy.

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Speaker 3: Yes, I'm guessing too that Stefan Diggs is chasing a ring at this point. Wherever he's going to sign, he wants to be on a contender like maybe a Rams team or something like that. I don't know if they have the room for him necessarily, or what their cap space is all that crap, but.

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Speaker 2: You would imagine he's chasing a ring. Yes, but I didn't think he was a number one wide receiver, even though somebody had to be the number one receiver for the Patriots.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, like I wouldn't think that wherever he was going, he would be the number one wide receiver. I would imagine that at this point in his career, he knows he's not that guy. New England was probably one of the only places that he would be treated that way. When it's like, well you are Kaishaan Boudie, you know, it's probably Stefan Diggs is going to be the one. But wherever he goes after that, who's a contender. They already got their guy. He would be just an addition, right, and probably a really good addition too.

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Speaker 2: The Aaron Rodgers situation now it feels like said, there are some columns that are misleading. Aaron Rodgers is holding up the Steelers again. The timeline, Well, he is a free agent, and from what Aaron has talked about, the Steelers haven't offered him a contract. I if I'm the Steelers, I'm at least looking elsewhere. I'm exploring all options here. But Aaron made a surprised guest appearance on the Pat McAfee show yesterday.

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Speaker 4: I've talked to Mike, I've talked to Omar.

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Speaker 10: There's been no deadline that's been you know, that's been put in front of me. There's no contract, you know, offer or anything. So there's nothing that I'm you know, having to debate between I'm you know, free agent and you know again I'm I'm enjoying my time with my wife and enjoying this part of the off season.

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Speaker 2: And and you know, I think.

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Speaker 10: There's conversations to be had down the line, but right now, I'm not not. There hasn't been any progressive conversation.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and it was June when he signed with the Steelers last year. Mike McCarthy knows, Aaron, you don't have to get you a get to know situation with your quarterback. And it feels early right now. I don't know if Will Howard is going to be get a chance to start the Ohio State quarterback. I don't know if you bring in Kirk Cousins, like what. First of all, I'd like to know what are you doing because it feels like you're going to be nine to eight again with or without Aaron Rodgers. Can you get your future quarterback? Is that future quarterback? A quarterback who has played for another team? Is Kyler Murray a future quarterback? Malik willis future quarterback? Sua future quarterback? So I would love to know what their philosophy is because it feels like here we go again. I don't think you're I think you're just a better than a little better than average team. And I gave you credit because of Tomlin was going to make you a little better than average, but you were going to make the playoffs and you weren't going to win. If I'm a Steeler fan, at some point, I go, ah, boy, we can really be proud that we are over five. We had a winning record, and maybe we made the playoffs and we didn't win a playoff game. They're not threatening and that would be frustrating. And you're bringing in Mike McCarthy And do I think that that's a good hire. Yes, he's got a proven track record, he's good with offenses. I just look at that offense and I go, I don't like your weapons. And then you're going to put Aaron Rodgers back there again. Okay, what am I getting?

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Speaker 11: Like?

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Speaker 2: What is the ceiling? I kind of know what the floor is. I'd like to know what the ceiling is. Yes, PAULI could you see.

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Speaker 7: Rogers being the backup plan for a number of teams, like if it doesn't work out with the draft and free agency.

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Speaker 2: I don't think he oh backup, but still be a starter.

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Speaker 7: Backup plan for the quarterback position, like if Minnesota doesn't find a better replacement, then they'll go to Rogers later the process.

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Speaker 2: Okay, starter, but note, okay, that's where I was confused, because he's gonna play. He's not going to be a backup. He's going to be the starter. But if you can't get who you need, like if Minnesota doesn't get who they want, do you bring Aaron Rodgers in?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think he would want to play there. You get to play indoors and you got some weapons there. But you know it might be June by the time that happens. After the draft, we'll talk to Glazer, Jay Glazer Jonas coming up. Uh Tom in Michigan, Good morning, Tom. What's on your mind today?

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Speaker 11: Morning? Dan six' one two sixty five. I'd like to believe my mom once she said I'm big boned. Anyway, to preface my statement, I have a clean driving record, no accidents, just a lot of speeding tickets. Back when I was fresh out of college, I was a feed salesman, driving one thousand miles a week. I managed to get five or six speeding tickets in two years, got over ten points on my license, had to get special auto insurance through a special carrier, and my parents' farm had to have all the proof of insurance, say excluding my name, because I was such a high risk. So those are the things because points only stick around for two years. After that they're gone because pack I'm fifty five and I still probably average about one speeding ticket a year because of my mantra that road time has wasted time. So and I'm a lifelong dairy farmer where happy cows when they retire, they become happy meals.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Tom. Yeah, if you get to twelve points, then I think they suspend your license for six months. But I don't know how many points that. Miles Garrett is a crude. But what is his seven speeding tickets that he's had.

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Speaker 7: We're looking into him. We had a suggestion for a punishment for Miles Garrett. The next time he gets a speeding ticket, he has to give up his Bugatti or Ferrari or whatever he's driving. He has to drive like a like an astro van from the late nineties.

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Speaker 2: That'll teach him. Yeah. Do we have a new poll question? Well, we have several pole questions. Do we have a new football poll?

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Speaker 3: We have we do have new football poll questions.

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Speaker 2: We also have speaking of speeding tickets.

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Speaker 3: How many speeding tickets would it take you getting in less than ten years to start slowing down? Three, five, seven or nine plus. Right now, most people a good sixty nine percent have about three speeding tickets, and then they would start slowing down. Some people are up to five. About eighteen percent are up to five. That's pretty interesting. And then I'd rather my team signlike Willis, trade for Mac Jones, signed Kirk Cousins, or draft Ty Simpson. Right now, forty one percent have signed Malik Willis.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I had somebody yesterday, a former NFL Prone office person, said, you know, you should pump your brakes a little bit on Malik Willis. I'm like, why, come on? And what a buzzkill? And he's like, yeah, you know, might be a bridge quarterback. And I go, okay, you know how big is the bridge? You know how long does it take to get over the bridge? Can I have a bridge quarterback for two or three years? He did well with the Packers, He goes yeah. Like I was like, man, what am I missing out here? Because it feels like Malik Willis still at an age where you know he could be in his prime. Get him with a good team. But I would take a chance on Kyler Murray certain teams. I would take a chance on Kyler Murray, the Vikings, I definitely would. I don't want to put him in the Jets situation. Why do I think Kirk Cousins ends up with the Jets? I know, just because then he can you know, he can be in New York to do his you know, the CBS Football show and still quarterback the Jets as well. Yes, Pauline, what if.

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Speaker 7: He did the CBS pregame show and went right over to the stadium and play for the Jets.

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Speaker 2: How about you take the pregame show too, or just let him do a live shot that's producing, I mean, his uniform on. He'll somehow make a ton of money off of this, owing Kirk d Cousins. All right, let's take a break, get more phone calls, Jay Glazer next hour.

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Speaker 2: Ian Rappaport, NFL Network Night said that the Steelers do expect a decision from Aaron Rodgers before free agency, and Rogers said that there's no deadline because they're not going to offer a deal until they know that he's going to accept a deal. Ian Rappaport suggested the Steelers want the opposite. If Rogers confirms that he wants to come back and play, details of an offer will be revealed to him at that point. So it's a waiting game of waiting for Aaron to decide if he wants to play, and then the Steelers would make an offer to him. I guess that's what Ian Rappaport is say. Glazier will have something on this coming up. Dylan in Orlando, Hi Dylan, what's on your mind?

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Speaker 12: Hey Dan, thanks for taking my call. I hope you're out doing it right. I know earlier this week we had a little fire situation think out. It was okay, but they kind of inspired me to write a little herody song based on we didn't start the fire, but of course including some Dan Patrick inspired lyrics. If I can sing, I only got one verse. If I can sing it.

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Speaker 2: For you, sounds good? Dylan, All right, here we go.

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Speaker 12: Adam Sandler, Will Ferrell, big German, Pete Carroll, Mothership backroom, guys, Marvin on the airlines, Trigger Grill, tire Rack, Dylan cooking in the back. What did I learn today? Toddy's in the passing length, Dan Patrick geeze in Fuego Status the day and a fight of the face Dan Patrick, Geese and Fuego. We'll have a ball when Tyler cakes.

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Speaker 11: Your call.

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Speaker 12: Your call, Your call.

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Speaker 2: Was fun, very nice. Thank you, Dylan. I didn't know I needed that today, but I'm glad I have it.

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Speaker 7: Yes, Paul, Whenever I'm driving home and we have a call like that, I always picture that person sitting at his kitchen table. No, that's not it and writing it again.

00:34:57
Speaker 2: Yeah, wife and kids, what are you doing? I'm writing a parody song, Sam focused BJ and Peoria, Hi Bj, Hey.

00:35:09
Speaker 8: Good morning, Dan and the dan Nets six two three twenty Powerlifter Pizza Division. I'm talking about Lou Holtz. I do not want to spin in anybody's grave, pun intended, but we always forget that Lou also left Minnesota, Notre Dame, South Carolina, and a year after he left. In each case they ended up on probation. And that's the only mark against an otherwise great career. Final take the Bears. I heard you guys talking about them in the over under conversation the other day. They're the worst team in the NFC North. Even last year they were two and four in the division. And they're going to play the first place schedule this year, which still means something in a couple of games. And I look for them to go eight and nine at best this season. I'll hang up and eat some more pizza.

00:35:55
Speaker 2: Does anybody want to bet BJ that the Bears finish better than a nine?

00:36:01
Speaker 3: Anybody feel Bears finished better than eight and nine?

00:36:05
Speaker 2: Yeah? Now BJ was saying that at best the Bears are eight and nine. Nine, it's gonna be a couple of teams are gonna take a step back, yes, Paul.

00:36:17
Speaker 7: And so many of those wins by the Bears last year were tenuous. I think they had eleven last year and could have won eight.

00:36:24
Speaker 2: That's why I shorted the Commanders. Now, Jane Daniels got hurt, But I thought, man, you can't win like seven one score games. You can't do that consistently. Now, great teams can, But I just I thought they'd come back to earth. But you know, Jade Daniels, of course got hurt. How about this, would you rather know the Steelers next quarterback, Aaron Rodgers' next team, or see a picture of Aaron Rodgers' wife, Like, right now, what would you want? Because Aaron says that he's married, nobody has seen his wife.

00:37:04
Speaker 13: Todd, I'm totally going to go with the third choice, the TMC and me or whatever you want to call it. I'm very curious about what his wife looks like.

00:37:11
Speaker 2: How is that possible? There were all of these pictures of Aaron walking on the beach in Malibu when we weren't sure what he was going to be doing next. There's no pictures of him with his wife. Yes, Paul, if.

00:37:27
Speaker 7: You're Aaron Rodgers' current wife, is this like a plan to keep out of the media spotlight? Is this a recommendation? Does she like this?

00:37:37
Speaker 2: I'm gonna guess it's a collaborative, collaborative effort on her and his part of Look, I don't want to be in the spotlight. You are, that's good? Does she go to games? I mean it's a big mystery. And the caller BJ did bring up Lou Holtz, and yes, when Lou would leave a couple of different universities, they would end up on probation so that is fact. But I was talking about a voice what he did at Notre Dame. He was a character an analyst. But yeah, I mean, these these resumes aren't bulletproof. But you know, he just passed away. As he said, wow, I mean to spit on his grave, but he kind of did there. I don't know if we're telling the whole story of Lou Holds today, but you know, it's kind of like, yeah, Lou Holds passed away. You know, like how much time people want me to do my Lou Holtz impersonation and I can't do it today? Yeah.

00:38:41
Speaker 3: See, I gotta admit I'd spent many times drafting a text and then deleting it, and then to writing a text and then deleting it, and then writing a text and then deleting it because I did have a lot of jokes to make for Lou Holds. I did, yeah, really, yeah, And that's like, no, you know what I've even in a closed chat like the five of us, Yeah, like, oh I probably shouldn't.

00:39:02
Speaker 2: Yeah you didn't even share, No, I didn't. How about tomorrow? I made a million of them?

00:39:06
Speaker 11: Though?

00:39:06
Speaker 2: How about tomorrow? Is that enough time? Yes? Maybe I checked? Yeah, all right, he's eighty nine.

00:39:13
Speaker 7: Yeah, this wasn't a complete shore.

00:39:15
Speaker 2: Oh he was in hospice. Yeah, all right, Maybe I'll do my Lou holtz impersonation tomorrow, like every bit in my body.

00:39:24
Speaker 6: Yes, Marvin, and I think that's okay, because eighty nine is the celebration of life, period. Yeah, like when someone Hey, if I die tomorrow, it's not a celebration of life, it's oh he was young, Lou holtz Man, what a run?

00:39:37
Speaker 4: Yeah?

00:39:37
Speaker 7: Un so?

00:39:38
Speaker 11: Come on?

00:39:39
Speaker 2: Yeah, whoa wait, what's going on here? Come on? Celebration of life? Right, let's go.

00:39:48
Speaker 7: Eighty six is the cutoff number?

00:39:50
Speaker 2: Eighty six. If you make it to eighty six or over, you can have a celebration of life.

00:39:55
Speaker 7: Well, you can't complain that you got cut short.

00:39:58
Speaker 2: I would be happy with that number.

00:40:00
Speaker 7: If someone offered you eighty six clean right now, who's not signing up?

00:40:03
Speaker 2: I'll take eighty six clean, six clean general health.

00:40:06
Speaker 13: Yes, And we've asked this before, but I'll ask again, what is the age of dying of natural causes? If someone says that he was, you know, thirty eight and died of natural cause, that would seem way too young. But seventy seven or something would seem opet What is that cut off for dying of natural cause? Just from being old and your body just breaks.

00:40:23
Speaker 2: I don't know, I don't know.

00:40:24
Speaker 7: Yes, I think a generation ago, making it to seventy seven felt pretty good.

00:40:29
Speaker 2: Now it feels like, oh no, what happened? You might ask what happened at seventy Yes?

00:40:34
Speaker 3: See, But it's odd to me too, because like, there are lots of natural causes of death, you know, like a stroke or a heart attack is a natural cause. But people don't say that, like, ah, I had a heart attack, but then there's natural causes. Those are all natural causes to die from, right, But what did you do to create that stroke that made it?

00:40:55
Speaker 4: Yeah?

00:40:55
Speaker 3: I mean heart disease might be the reason or something like that if you have a heart attack, but it's still a natural cause, right.

00:41:01
Speaker 2: I just want to go in my sleep, yes, Todd, Yeah, because.

00:41:05
Speaker 13: Natural causes to me just says like eventually your body can't just function forever.

00:41:08
Speaker 4: Eventually it just.

00:41:09
Speaker 2: All breaks down. He died of natural causes ninety three?

00:41:13
Speaker 4: What do he wanted to do that?

00:41:14
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