Father Knows Less with Bobby Bones: Lauren Alaina's Crazy Birth Story & Kickoff Kevin on Twin Chaos

Bobby Bones Presents: The BobbyCast

On this episode of Father Knows Less, Bobby Bones sits down with Lauren Alaina who shares what it’s really like adjusting to life with a newborn. The conversation turns deeply personal as Lauren walks through her birth story where the umbilical cord was wrapped around her daughter in multiple places, creating a dangerous situation during labor. From being induced to the intense, split-second decisions during delivery, and the overwhelming moment of hearing her daughter cry for the first time. Then Kickoff Kevin talks to Bobby about the different levels of chaos as a twin dad, sharing what it’s actually like to have two of everything and why nothing can truly prepare you for it. They get into the realities of paternity leave (and why it should be longer), the stuff no one tells you before becoming a parent, and the one thing every new mom or dad actually needs beyond all the gear and advice.

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00:00:00
Speaker 1: All right, another episode of Father Knows Less. And because we don't do this as a real podcast, this is two different YouTube videos that we did. But the first one you may have seen with Lauren Elena and we talked about her and her birth experience and how crazy it was. You'll hear the umbilical cord story. Uh, pretty wild. Always loved talking with Lauren. And then after that we talked with one of the guys that works here with me, Kickoff Kevin, and he had twins, first babies, and we talked about what that's like for him. And so here is another let's say episode, but yeah, you get it. And if you want to watch these, they're up on at Bobby Bones channel on YouTube. But here is Father Knows Less. All right, I want to welcome Laura and Elena to the Father Knows Less Show. Thank you Lauren. Of course, did you ever feel completely clueless when you had your kid?

00:00:43
Speaker 2: Every single day? I feel like I'm learning every day how to take care of a child.

00:00:49
Speaker 1: My question about being a new parent. And you're ahead of me a little bit because your baby's over a year now, right.

00:00:54
Speaker 2: No, she's ten months.

00:00:55
Speaker 1: Well, I saw a picture I thought it was your your birthday party, like Hardy and all those other people, every one thing exist.

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Speaker 2: That was Rosy's birthday party. Everyone thinks it was my daughter's.

00:01:04
Speaker 1: I thought it was sure. That's why I thought it was a year because a.

00:01:06
Speaker 2: Lot of people have told me that they thought it it was Herty's daughter's birthday.

00:01:10
Speaker 1: Okay, yep, so your daughter is ten months.

00:01:13
Speaker 2: Old, she'll be a year old June eleven.

00:01:17
Speaker 1: What's to do with traveling because we haven't traveled. Our baby is just a few weeks old. When did you start feeling comfortable traveling with your child.

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Speaker 2: Like on a plane?

00:01:25
Speaker 1: Yeah, I have not, you have not.

00:01:28
Speaker 2: I have done it. It's but you comfortable?

00:01:31
Speaker 1: What is that? Like?

00:01:33
Speaker 2: What's actually? Bennie is really great. She's a really easy traveler. If my husband's with me or someone is with me, I feel comfortable. But it would be really hard to do it by myself.

00:01:46
Speaker 1: Because what do you have to do extra with a baby that you don't have to do when it is.

00:01:51
Speaker 2: You well, figuring out where to feed her, breastfeeding, and then you have to travel with so much stuff that.

00:01:59
Speaker 1: Seems to be the thing everywhere we go now, it's just so much.

00:02:02
Speaker 2: Stuff, like it's not just a die. I mean we are now at the age where it does get better, because we're at the age now where I feel like I can take the baby and a change of clothes if you know she poops all over herself or spill something, and like diapers essentially and get away with it. If we're going to like a restaurant, because she now eats food too, She's not just like taking milk.

00:02:27
Speaker 1: But.

00:02:31
Speaker 2: It's it is a total addressing. I mean, like if you fly with your child, you have to take a pack and play because they're gonna have to have somewhere to sleep. I mean, you take a lot of stuff, but you get used to it. It's just your whole life change, Like you start taking less stuff for you and you take everything for them. Like I'm re wearing the shirt a couple of times, you know what I mean. Like, I'm not gonna take eighteen outfit choices. She has eighteen outfit choices. I have one.

00:02:57
Speaker 1: Have you had a situation where she's crying at a public place.

00:03:02
Speaker 2: Where I'm like feeling really bad about it. I'm not gonna lie. My daughter is not a fussy baby. She's like it's hilarious if you know her parents. I think we are soaking up all the energy and she's just hanging out. But I have had some situations where she's crying and I feel bad. But I will tell you everyone's really nice when you have a crying baby, especially when they're really little, Like people feel bad for you worse than they feel for themselves. I think because especially the mom, because you can just tell like the mom is frantic and like it is piercing to a mother's ear when the baby is crying and needing something and we're trying to figure out what it is. Like I mean, mostly my maternal instinct kicks in and I don't really care in that moment about everybody else. And then if she continues to cry, then I would feel bad for everyone else, But it would be like on a plane, where you would feel bad if the baby cried the whole time. But even then it's like you got to get where you're going and it's a baby, Like what am I supposed to do? You know?

00:04:12
Speaker 1: I feel like my wife has some sort of like echo location where if something she can sense it.

00:04:18
Speaker 2: I could hear my baby cry if she started crying right now, We're across town I literally, it's crazy. It initiates something in you, like my husband.

00:04:27
Speaker 1: I mean, that's really what I've been like.

00:04:28
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean if it were up to Cameron, Bennie would cry all night long if something was wrong because he would not wake up. And I I mean I don't even need like a video monitor. I can hear her across the house. It's done something to my ears. It's crazy.

00:04:43
Speaker 1: We're so early in. It's again, we're just a few weeks in.

00:04:46
Speaker 2: And how old is she now?

00:04:48
Speaker 1: Over three weeks?

00:04:49
Speaker 2: Oh my goodness.

00:04:51
Speaker 1: The snuggles and she doesn't do a lot right, It's all as much.

00:04:55
Speaker 2: As you can because then they get busy and they don't love to snuggle as much. Like I know people say you can like spoil your baby, don't hold your baby too much, hold that baby from morning to dark if you want to, because it goes by so fast. I know everyone says that, but it really could. I could weep about it. I mean, we're in a really fun age. She's crawling, learning to walk, and she like knows us and says mama and dadad.

00:05:20
Speaker 1: And that's crazy to think about our baby saying words to us, or even that, are you.

00:05:26
Speaker 2: Yeah, like to recognize you, to know you. That will happen sooner than you think, where she.

00:05:31
Speaker 1: Will recognize you, because right now.

00:05:33
Speaker 2: They live like they're like a little potato at first that you know, eats and poops, and then all of a sudden they're like, this is my person like you. Especially with your wife, I think she the baby will recognize her probably first and then I mean, but it wasn't long after, but she, like Benny, knew who I was. Like I think she knew who I was immediately, but I was more like the person that carried her and fed her, you know. And then you become their person that they trust and they recognize, and that is the most rewarding part of being a parent to me.

00:06:07
Speaker 1: My wife will be crying sometimes and I'm like, what's wrong, because like nothing, I'm just so happy that did that happen to you?

00:06:12
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, and your wife's body just went through the most miraculous gift and crazy shift of all time for a woman. So yeah, the emotions are very heightened at that time. And yes, I still look at my daughter and cry, like I took these pictures of her with this, with these blocks that said forty two weeks because I went way past my due date. I went twelve days eleven days past. Wow, So I almost carried her full forty two weeks?

00:06:44
Speaker 1: Were you doing it?

00:06:44
Speaker 2: And so I took a picture of her with blocks that said forty two weeks and the way she held her little hands and the bow and her hair made me cry. So yeah, the crying doesn't stop, just out of pure adoration for her. I cry like I love her so much.

00:06:58
Speaker 1: We were doing things like curb walking. Uh were you trying? Oh, hot spicy food.

00:07:03
Speaker 2: I did every trick you've if you've read a trick, I did it. The only thing I never did was castor oil. I never drank the castor oil. I was like, because my doula told me that some people take drink the castor oil and they have contractions, but it doesn't actually get them into birth. And I was like, well, we're not going to do that. I don't want to do that.

00:07:23
Speaker 1: How did you know a lot.

00:07:24
Speaker 2: Of women do it in it like immediately they have the baby.

00:07:27
Speaker 1: But how did you know you're having a baby?

00:07:28
Speaker 2: Like, what was your I had to be induced.

00:07:30
Speaker 1: I ended up getting it for you, even though you were two weeks late.

00:07:32
Speaker 2: I had to be induced. Yeah, I mean it started being it started. I really didn't want to be induced, like I wanted my body to do it. And at some point I was like getting kind of scared that she was still in there.

00:07:46
Speaker 1: You know, expbout to graduate high school. She's still in there.

00:07:48
Speaker 2: Yeah, she came out reading that's crazy.

00:07:51
Speaker 1: She's driving a car for me. There have been certain things that I've learned in the past even month. One thing is how important the labor nurses are, labor and delivery nurses. Like I could if I were to see ours walking down the street and again she spent a day with us, so and we're just another person coming in and going out. But to us same I would hug her and go, what can I do for your life?

00:08:18
Speaker 2: Yeah? Can I like pay for your kids to go to school? What do you need? Yeah? Say?

00:08:22
Speaker 1: So valued such a.

00:08:26
Speaker 2: Crazy experience, isn't it? Just like have? I mean as the person that had the but like even for my husband, and Cameron's like the life of the party, he's mister jokes or he's not a super emotional person. And when Benny came out and he saw her, he stopped. I've never seen him cry. I mean like when someone passed away. He cries in appropriate situations, but like stopped, and it's just such an out of like it's otherworldly experience. Like and those people and it's so hard on them, mom, Like there's a lot going on. And those women that we had, like there was one nurse we had specifically the saying like I love her, I love her.

00:09:15
Speaker 1: I'm very close to feeling that way about hers, and I love her, yeah, because I.

00:09:19
Speaker 2: Want her to be there when I have another child.

00:09:21
Speaker 1: She was there, and she was there for most of it before our doctor got there, because the doctor got called in. So it's like my wife started going into labor and she's in all of it, and they should pulled out the trash bag, and I know it was getting real by the way, do you see him doing that for you? Out the plastic?

00:09:37
Speaker 2: We had like kind of an a wild at birth because and when I would push Benny's heart right plummeted and they couldn't figure out why. So her umbellical cord was wrapped around her head twice and up under her shoulder and then between her legs, so when I would push, it was pulling.

00:09:56
Speaker 1: Wow, did you know that as it was happening.

00:09:58
Speaker 2: No, but I knew something was not right. So I was very scared. It was very scary. It happens a lot. I think.

00:10:04
Speaker 1: I can't imagine she was fully wrapped.

00:10:07
Speaker 2: She was like we and I think, and part of me thinks, you know, the there's I never knew anything about childbirth until I was getting prepared to have one. And basically the way like your cervix and all the things, like the way you dilate and stuff, is the baby's head like burrows down. So I'm wondering, because she was so wrapped up, if that's why I went so far past my d date because she wasn't able to do what she needed to do to like prepare my body for birth. But they basically they basically told me not to push until the doctor got there. I wasn't like, I did not push, and then I pushed and they the doctor came in and told me all these things that we were gonna have to do to get her out, like not like forces really and there's like this vacuum that they can use and they're telling me this, and I look up at my husband and I'm just like scared to death, you know, I mean, and it's scary anyway. But then that started happening and I was like, oh my gosh, and I was like what, And then they were and she was so far down in the birth canal that they would have had to push her back up for a C section, So they said that really wasn't the greatest choice at that point either, So then we're like having to pick the best of not great choices. And I'm not kidding. It scared me so much so for them to do any of those things that you have to push for the doctor to kind of assess, and then they would do like bring in the force, and she was also sideway, so he said he couldn't do the vacuum, so you push and then they like clamp on her head and pull her out, which is so graphic. I'm sorry, but it scared me so bad. He said, well, we're gonna do. I want you to push as hard as you can, and I just kind of want to see the position of her head and then you're gonna relax and then we'll do it again and we're gonna get her out. And I looked up at my husband. I will never forget it. Something happened to me and I pushed her out, like they did not have to use anything, like something happened to me. They scared me so bad. You know you see those videos of people like lifting cars off of their children. I had that experience because I was like, because they tell me everything that if they used that stuff, which I had a friend who had to use them and the baby was perfectly fine, but it can hurt them, like the best option is to not have to use anything, And so it just scared me, and I pushed her out. I pushed twice and she was out.

00:12:29
Speaker 1: When you heard her cry, were like, oh my god, it.

00:12:33
Speaker 2: That right now will make me weep because I was so scared that she wasn't gonna be okay. And I heard her well first they I you know, I'm watched, like I see them pull her out, and he's doing this to my baby, like untangling my child, Like I see the doctor untangled. He was like, she's really tangled, and I'm like, is she okay? And my husband is hysterically sobbing, and I'm like look, and they laid her on me and she didn't cry. Immediately they like suctioned out of her mouth and she went and I literally like have never heard a more beautiful sound that my life changed instantly in that second when I I mean looking at her, just like yeah, it's crazy. Yeah, So it was scary, and then that the reward of getting I literally like never wanted them to take her away from it. I was like, we're I didn't even want them to weigh her. They were like, well, we have to weigh her, and I was like, no, you don't. I was like, because I was so scared, you.

00:13:35
Speaker 1: Know, whenever they laid the baby on my wife's chest. What was crazy was she immediately went from the intense pressure of having to have a child physically mentally emotionally too. She started going, I love her so much, I love her so much. Yes, I've never seen it like that before. Where As soon as it touched her, she was like, I love her so much. This is and she was obviously crying and emotional instantly.

00:13:58
Speaker 2: It's the craziest. It's I can't It's an inexplainable feeling, like it's.

00:14:03
Speaker 1: Yeah, how long until you could sing again after you gave birth? Because thedn't did it hurt singing? Yeah? Because yeah, I know idea that it was that.

00:14:14
Speaker 2: I did not sing right at first. That actually really scared me. That actually really scared me because I couldn't control my voice in a way that I'm able to do. That's a great question, Molly. How long do you think it took a couple months? A couple months? Well, I mean you think about it, so you have like a gaping wound in your and so I was like not able to It was because I could had no core left, so I could not control. I was still able to sing, but I could not control like flipping my voice and stuff. And it wasn't a voice thing. It was all like a control. It was very interesting, like I did some like vocal therapy and stuff to try to fix it.

00:15:02
Speaker 1: I was very ignorant as to what it does to the female body. It does a lot, because I've said before I thought it was like, okay, rab some dirt on it.

00:15:09
Speaker 2: Get to Raisin, how is your wife doing?

00:15:10
Speaker 1: How great? Now? But I mean it's you know, we read the thing five days in a bed, five days around the bed, five days, and it's more than that. It's way more than yep. Shout out to every woman that has to go through this. There's a new respect of having gone through it. Like you guys rule.

00:15:24
Speaker 2: We saw it like we are the superior. Yeah, women are superior. I agree.

00:15:31
Speaker 1: When did you go out and start singing again on the road?

00:15:36
Speaker 2: I had my first show. I think she was about three months old.

00:15:40
Speaker 1: Did you were you there physically?

00:15:43
Speaker 2: No? But it was actually I don't even know if I've talked about this, but I sobbed hysterically that I had to go back to work. I was not ready, and I thought, I mean when I was like looking at the calendar, right, I was like, oh, I'll be so ready by it was end of August. She was born, like I literally think it was maybe the last day of August. That was my first show, and she was born June eleventh, So that's actually sooner than I thought now that I'm thinking about it.

00:16:13
Speaker 1: What also blows me away is that we don't have like full paid maternity leave.

00:16:18
Speaker 2: Well, and I don't have paid maternity leave at all.

00:16:20
Speaker 1: That our government doesn't like, right, that's what you're saying, yes, because some countries it's it's like three months paid fully maternity leave. Yeah, ours is like you had a baby, all right, you do at nine a m get to work. It's crazy. There's just a whole new respect from me because I've not gone through it.

00:16:37
Speaker 2: I have so much respect for just mothers in general too, because I am very fortunate in that my job, she goes with me mostly. It's starting to be, like I have. The whole month of May is going to be a tough, tough month for me. She'll be fine because I'm going to leave her with her dad and I have West Coast runs and I'm just not I'm not doing that to her. So I now I'm at the stage where I'm leaving her. But I think, you know, but a lot of mothers have to go back to work way sooner than I did, and they're they're gone from them all day long. I guess the real difference is like when I'm gone from her, I'm I don't come home at night.

00:17:23
Speaker 1: So for a few days.

00:17:24
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gone for stretches of time. But this may will be the first time where I've left her more than like forty eight hours.

00:17:33
Speaker 3: May.

00:17:33
Speaker 1: Second, you're doing the iHeart Country Festival.

00:17:35
Speaker 2: I am to Luke Bryn're gonna leave her there.

00:17:38
Speaker 1: Kane Brown, Wait, you're gonna leve her in Texas? I'm She's coming to Texas. No, that's not her home. Don't leave her there. At least leave her here.

00:17:45
Speaker 2: I'm gonna leave her, I believe. Well, we haven't talked about that. One's a quick one, so in Texas is a little bit easier, so we're figuring out. Sorry, yes, I'm going to Texas. I interrupted in talking.

00:17:56
Speaker 1: It's a big show. Everybody should get tickets ticketmaster dot com. One final question. You were a gifted to Bronco by Rascal Lights. Yes, I saw the picture.

00:18:05
Speaker 2: It's real. I'vey blindfolded us and took us out to the garage and I was like, maybe they got us a golf cart or something. I don't know. And then they cranked up these cars and then a steal was like, they're gonna put us in these cars and take us somewhere. And then I realized that was my car.

00:18:20
Speaker 1: They were giving you the car.

00:18:21
Speaker 2: They gave us the car shipped it. I mean we didn't drive them home from there, obviously, because we had more shows, so they shipped the cars like they just one day. I walked outside and it was in my driveway?

00:18:31
Speaker 1: Is that the greatest tour gift you've ever gotten?

00:18:34
Speaker 2: Yeah?

00:18:35
Speaker 1: I mean that's insane. Well, I appreciate you talking about all that stuff with me.

00:18:39
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, And I'm here if you have any questions.

00:18:42
Speaker 1: And my wife says same thing about you. She's like, she's so grateful that you've reached out and.

00:18:46
Speaker 2: Been She's asked me a couple of questions. I'm like, there are no dumb questions because you know nothing. You have this baby. Get back to the nurse thing. You have this baby, and these people will help you bring this baby into the world. And then they're like, here's how the car seat goes in the car. Good luck.

00:19:00
Speaker 1: Then you go home You're like, where do I put it?

00:19:01
Speaker 2: Where does it?

00:19:03
Speaker 3: Yeah?

00:19:03
Speaker 2: But there, you know. And I told her about this little thing that we laid Benny in. I told her about it. It's like a pillow. Do you all have it?

00:19:10
Speaker 1: Probably we have.

00:19:11
Speaker 2: There's like a little indentation in the center of it.

00:19:13
Speaker 1: Oh, we do have that.

00:19:14
Speaker 2: Yeah. I told her to get that.

00:19:15
Speaker 1: We do have that.

00:19:16
Speaker 2: I'm trying to think of what it's called, but I sent her to the link and stuff.

00:19:18
Speaker 1: Final question, what's the best thing about being a mom?

00:19:22
Speaker 2: Oh man, there's so many wonderful things. The way she loves me, just the most pure innocence, love the way she looks at me and needs me, and like just yeah, the there's nothing like it this to know that I am and my husband too. But it's different with the mother a little bit. But I am the number one person in her life and I don't like just yeah, oh my goodness, and she says mama and that was her first word, and that was pretty good.

00:20:08
Speaker 1: Thank you, Lauren. Okay. On this episode we have kickoff Kevin who has twins. Congratulations on that, Thank you very much. Dude. That's crazy wild. But you don't know the difference, Like you don't know what it would be like to have one because I have one. Yeah, you just had two. I think if you had one, then you had two. Like my friend Ben Rector had a baby is it a girl? And then they were gonna have another baby. Then they had twins, so they know what it's like to have one, but then they had two. Ooh.

00:20:35
Speaker 3: And does he talk about how much harder two is compared to one?

00:20:38
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I know it's gonna be really hard even for you, But I don't know that you know the difference and how easy it could have been with just one.

00:20:44
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't we always like my wife and I always hypothetically talk about imagine if we just.

00:20:49
Speaker 1: Had one, like you spread them out, one than one?

00:20:51
Speaker 3: Yeah, one, then one. But then we always say, but imagine if we had three or four at the same time, so you can always like go either avenue, I guess, but yeah, we say that all the time, like at least we started this way instead of having one and then too. Now I just hope we don't have another set of twins.

00:21:07
Speaker 1: Does that ever happen where people have multiple sets of twins? Yeah, you had them in your family, hers and she has a lot of twins, a lot. Yeah, was she a twin?

00:21:15
Speaker 3: No, No, she wasn't.

00:21:16
Speaker 1: I made a list of things because ours is still considered a newborn of really important items that I'm glad we knew of. And if you have any want to throw into this, she can. But there's something called a bobby familiar with the Bobby No, you probably are, maybe the brand name, I don't know. It's like a thing that wraps. It's a pillow that kind of is a half circle, and so it's used for a lot of things, for if I'm sitting the baby up, if you're like our baby has like at times, like some reflex stuff like the Bobby's legitimate as a pillow that goes around your waist for the baby.

00:21:46
Speaker 3: Yes, now I know what you're talking about.

00:21:48
Speaker 1: Yeah, that could also be the brand.

00:21:50
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I think we just called it a horseshoe pillow or something.

00:21:53
Speaker 1: That's probably good name for it.

00:21:54
Speaker 3: Okay.

00:21:55
Speaker 1: There's also and I've mentioned this, there's a rubber duck that we have that has the temperature on the rubber duck where you put it in the water.

00:22:01
Speaker 3: That's legit.

00:22:02
Speaker 1: Oh, it's the greatest thing. I thought everybody knew about this. It's a rubber ducky, a yellow rubber ducky and on the bottom you just flip it on and then you put it on the water and it tells you the temperature of the water. Huh, so you don't burn the baby mine.

00:22:12
Speaker 3: Our temperature is just a finger.

00:22:14
Speaker 1: And well, now I'm getting good because of the rubber ducky.

00:22:16
Speaker 3: I'm getting good.

00:22:17
Speaker 1: But this thing's like six bucks. I encourage everybody on Amazon if if you're wondering how even for me, I take a bath at one fourteen, you know your temperature? Well, could I put the duck in there? Because once we had the baby, and because before that you didn't no idea, had no idea. But Chad GBT was like, hey, if you're going to give a baby a bath, it should be around ninety nine to one hundred, which is just kind of warm. It's not even that hot body temperature. Okay, so you got to think we're ninety nine ninety eight point six whatever. So it's basically body temperature water to give the baby a bath in. And then obviously I'm curious about my own bath, so I would run it to I would normally have it, and it's at one fourteen to one sixteen. I think that's pretty hot for a human, because my wife will sometimes forget that I've run the bath and then she'll just turn it on and then she'll put her foot in out here and go.

00:23:08
Speaker 3: What the heck, man, it's so hot, dude. We're opposite where my wife is super hot and I'm the opposite.

00:23:14
Speaker 1: Where I like a cooler, the boppy, the rubber you gotta get a rubber duck.

00:23:19
Speaker 3: I was gonna say, the rubber duck is awesome.

00:23:20
Speaker 1: Do you like your your kids are?

00:23:22
Speaker 3: How old? Now ten and a half months?

00:23:25
Speaker 1: So what do I have to look forward to, like, what are the cool things between like one and six months.

00:23:30
Speaker 3: Well, right now, you're still early enough, I think where you're just basically trying to keep her alive. Yeah, not to be dramatic, but at the end of the day, it's kind of what it is.

00:23:38
Speaker 1: I'm basically trying to keep my wife alive, to keep the big alive. It's really hard too.

00:23:43
Speaker 3: And then so now you really have to look forward to and even like my kids at ten and a half months are changing every day, but really like after six months or so, you start to see these personalities.

00:23:54
Speaker 1: Six months when that happens, Yeah.

00:23:56
Speaker 3: Like big even before that, but now it's really really starting to come through after six months and the difference. The good thing about twins is you see just how different each one is. So like my girl is just wild, she's a wild child, just wants to go go, go, yell, scream, and then my boys just kind of sits back, puts his fingers together, that kind of stuff. So it's really cool to see the personalities come out and like which one might be more like you, or if she's gonna be more like you or more like your wife. And then as they get older, like, legit, every day, it's a little bit more every single day. Once you hit that little bit of personality in a few months from now, and then from then on it just goes so fast.

00:24:36
Speaker 1: It's just me reading stuff, but it says it's a big shift around three months where they start smiling regularly. And baby Billy smiles now, but usually it's from gas or something. Yeah, it's mostly a muscle thing, I think, unless she's just delighted with me while she's pooping, I think, so smiling regularly, the first laugh, stronger neck. That's around two to three months. Is that pretty cool when the baby starts to react to you.

00:24:58
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was just gonna say the best now. I mean, I get I walk in the door and both the kids like they'll hear their door open and they'll kind of pop up in the playpen and they'll look through the bars and they'll see me and just these big smiles, and I'm telling you, like, there is no better feeling. I've heard all about that growing up, But that is the best part getting home. Even if you had a crappy day, word, crappy day doing whatever. You see that and they they don't care, they don't know about anything, but you see that smile, even at this young of an age, like it'll change your entire day when you see that.

00:25:28
Speaker 1: Any items that I haven't mentioned that you guys live by diaper genie, I don't know. It's a pediatrician. They have one, but it always stinks ours doesn't. Oh okay, So the reason that we didn't do diaper genie is because it smells like poop coming to that thing. It's the pediatrician. But maybe that's just because people are reckless because it's not theirs.

00:25:47
Speaker 3: Yeah, probably because we've had ours since day one and were still I use it literally ever have a hole in it. It turned like you throw it in and it turns and not a turn, like you kind of shove it down or you toss it down in there and it has like a little like contraption where you know, when the diper goes through, it shuts back up. Okay, Yeah, And I mean it's in our living room and we don't even smell anything.

00:26:07
Speaker 1: Something that I knew nothing about. And you guys are double time this how many diapers a baby uses? Oh my gosh, so much so that it's affected me in a way of we donate diapers every week, because I don't know that if you're just getting by like week to week, like if you live a paycheck to paycheck and you also got to buy diapers, that's so much money.

00:26:27
Speaker 3: It's insane. Luckily for us, shout out my father in law. We've only had to buy like two boxes, I think because since day one he's been I'll buy your diapers for you, man.

00:26:36
Speaker 1: That is awesome. That's like a scholarship to college.

00:26:38
Speaker 3: Yeah. Every time we run out, especially with two, we go through so much. Every time we run out, we text them next days on our doorstep. It's the best. And wipes and wipes.

00:26:48
Speaker 1: There's a lot of wipes.

00:26:49
Speaker 3: What about cloths like baby cloths, like wiping cloths so like Burt Brabs. Yeah, I couldn't think of the word.

00:26:56
Speaker 1: There are times where I'm walking around the house and I just look in a mirror and I've got two me. I don't even remember putting them on me, but there's like one on a shoulder, it's like a back of my shirt. It's almost like when you take clothes out of a dryer and there's like a sock attached to your pants and you didn't realize that because the static cling. Like I have burn cloths just on me. I'll go to work in the morning and I got to do a burn cloth check to make sure nothing is attached to me right now, Yeah, they're everywhere. And the fact that you grow out of baby the babies grow so fat. And again I'm only three four weeks into this, but she's already grown out of so many onesies.

00:27:28
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, it's it's it's insane.

00:27:31
Speaker 1: What a racket that is.

00:27:32
Speaker 3: It's insane. And like I let my wife do whatever, you know, get her clothes, but she's learning as she goes along, Like why do we need all these clothes because half of them they'll never wear because they just grow out them so fast, especially the Onesi's at that little And then you just start buying, like when they're six months, you buy nine months because they're just gonna grow into even if it's big now.

00:27:47
Speaker 1: So you put them. Ah, that's good, you put them in something a little bigger so we will have it longer.

00:27:52
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, especially if you're buying something nice.

00:27:56
Speaker 1: We've got rules. No nice clothes good right now? I mean I who knows, but right it's all generic good. I'm not sure when my wife gets it. But there's no name brand. The fact they make name brand baby stuff is crazy to me. I know it's only for Instagram.

00:28:12
Speaker 3: Right, Oh yeah, absolutely, And and kind of like a lot of other people were you go out and your baby's wearing this nice whatever brand and it's almost like it this is for other people, not really for us. They don't wear this unless we go out in public so we can show other people we have this nice brand on our baby.

00:28:25
Speaker 1: Did you guys have a wedge pillow? No, it's something that we use now. It's basically a pillow that's a wedge so if the baby needs to like not stand up, but be elevated, so not laying down. Okay, the pillow is great for that.

00:28:40
Speaker 3: Interesting, I haven't seen that one.

00:28:43
Speaker 1: Yeah.

00:28:43
Speaker 3: I just wait till the baby can hold herself up though. That's it's a relief. What do you mean, like, is she strong enough to hold her neck up quite yet?

00:28:50
Speaker 1: She turns her head over?

00:28:51
Speaker 3: Okay, but she can't, like she doesn't.

00:28:54
Speaker 1: Mile on the treadmill, max, Dang, she's already there.

00:28:57
Speaker 3: Yeah, she doesn't mind see the little ours, So that's okay. But no, when you don't have to like support her head in every little movement, and she can start to support herself, like if you just move her just even from you know, sitting here to sitting here, and you don't have to like hold her head as you move her. It's just a nice relief just internally, so you don't feel like you're going to break a baby's neck.

00:29:20
Speaker 1: I was talking on an episode prior where the car seat was actually a lot easier than I thought because people had built that up to be you never get like a ten thousand piece puzzle with no picture on the box, You're never going to figure it out. It's actually quite simple. Yeah, And I put a mirror on that head rest of the seat so you can see in the mirror end of the kit. And then I got a lot of message going, hey, you can get cameras that are pretty inexpensive, and you so cause I don't want. My vision's not good. And also I got to look in a mirror to see a mirror to see the baby. What do you guys have to see the babies?

00:29:50
Speaker 3: We have a mirror. I didn't even know they had cameras.

00:29:52
Speaker 1: We just ordered one. We haven't opened it yet, but I didn't know if you had done that at all.

00:29:56
Speaker 3: No, But honestly, I can't stand in the mirrors because those are harder to put together than the car seats. Ours are the ones that we have. At least we should probably get new ones. But like, if we go from my wife's car, which is the car seats are normally in there, to my truck for whatever reason, I'm like, I don't even want to take the mirrors off and put them back on, because it's that much of a hassle.

00:30:14
Speaker 1: You go blind on the baby just when you get there, you just cross your fingers and help, Oh my god, help the baby.

00:30:19
Speaker 3: I just pulled down and I just take a peek if I can at a red light. Okay, we're good, all right, keep going, And that's about it. But we know we have the mirrors.

00:30:26
Speaker 1: What's been the best part about it?

00:30:28
Speaker 3: Man? This is something that I've looked forward to since I was little. I have a great relationship with my dad, so I think just looking forward to this my entire life, but not rushing it at the same time, like, thank God I found a great woman and a great mom and a great wife. So I think the best part has been like it's been everything I've wanted my entire life. But then even.

00:30:48
Speaker 1: More, what's been the hardest part about it.

00:30:50
Speaker 3: Sleep by far, Because we have our little boy, he's still not sleeping to to night, so we wake up at least once to night with him, and then he wakes her up sometimes, so then it's like you get the double whammy and then you're up for an hour instead of just being over fifteen minutes, and then you try to go back to sleep, and then the other one wakes up. So just the lack of sleep and like the inconsistent sleep schedule is definite over them too. And it would take an when they were a little little month, first month or two, it would take an hour and a half when they would wake up in the mid night to feed them, could feed them, burp them, change them. All that would take an hour and a half to get both of them done.

00:31:25
Speaker 1: I get so excited when there was a big bar type belly fat man burp that comes out of hers.

00:31:34
Speaker 3: You know how good it feels?

00:31:35
Speaker 1: Yes, And also it's like, you know, you get an iPhone used to peel that plastic off and you'd be like that's so satisfying, Like this is stupid, but it just Matt, that's kind of when if I'm burboner, like if my wife's done and I'm doing That's what I'm talking about. Yeah, because at first too, like they're so small, you really don't You get a little tight looked tap and then you realize these babies are built to be burned. Yeah, that's a pretty satisfying part of being a bad So far, did your wife I wish you ever telling you like stop hitting and stop hitting her so hard or any they know, because she was doing it before me because I was scared to death. I never I'd ever held one baby ever my whole life prior to our baby, and it was for like thirty seconds. It was my nephew, because I think they were like, hey hold this baby for a second. So anything any of my relationship mentally with the baby was I'm going to break this thing, so do not touch. Uh. So mine was always like one finger tap and she's like no, no, no, you're not gonna get anything out of her unless you really. The other thing that I've learned is like the rub up on the back.

00:32:30
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that's.

00:32:32
Speaker 1: Been good for me to get some burps.

00:32:34
Speaker 3: Out, Like your wife does it to you.

00:32:36
Speaker 1: No, I wish I wish you would do like because you could do like bicycle legs to get to get poop. I told my wife, I want to do some of this stuff, like do some of this stuff to me because I have stomach issues. So what do I have to look like? What's the best part about the next few months coming up for me?

00:32:52
Speaker 3: Just the drastic change of like not her, not you, just you know, trying to keep her alive. Like I said earlier, Now you're really going to to She's gonna start to notice you. She's gonna to your point, she's already kind of seen you and noticed you a little bit, but then she'll start following you, She'll start laughing at things you say. You'll make her laugh. Then the little giggle, I mean, there's nothing like a baby's giggle, especially when it's her own baby. So I think just seeing that come through so fast, and it's gonna happen like that, and then another week goes by and she's gonna have another new personality come out of her. So all of that rapidly happening so fast is probably gonna be the best part.

00:33:27
Speaker 1: What is your advice to new dads, like, if they're just about to have a baby, be there.

00:33:31
Speaker 3: For your wife number one, cause we've talked about this before. You don't really know what they go through until you see them go through it, and then it's like, okay, well she just went through nine months of all this and then labor and then all this. Now you just need to be there for your wife, making sure the kids okay, of course, but also just being like, hey, what do you need, Let me support you, and how can I make your life easier for at least the first couple weeks until they can get their feetback on her own and they can feel normal and she can feel good again. That would be my biggest thing, is just be there for her and just take a step back of like your own rule, don't even think about yourself, and just really be unselfish.

00:34:13
Speaker 1: I remember whenever you told me you were having twins. This is months before you actually the baby, like, we're having twins, and you're like, I'm gonna be gone for a while, and I did I listen. I didn't know the benefit of paternity leave. I now do, and I was just like, dude, I didn't know I would me. I just always want the people to work for me to feel like they have full support for me regardless of what they're doing. And I was just like, dude, don't even answer the phone from us, take off as much time as you want, like you just let me know when you're good. And you were like, no, no, I think I'm gonna work a little bit. I didn't know. I didn't know what I was saying, but I was like, no, no, you're not gonna want to work. You're going to want to And it turns out this is one of those times where I was randomly really right, and I'm glad I've been through it now because it's so important for your wife, your partner to have somebody there with them. Yes, it's crazy, like what they've been through physically and now what they're expected to do immediately, it is wild.

00:35:05
Speaker 3: Yeah, and to your point, I mean, you were immediately like go away, turn off your phone, whatever you need to do, your email, everything. And thank God for that, because internally we always want to be like I want to help where I can and work where I can. But to be able to have that like space of separation with work while dealing with that is a game changer.

00:35:25
Speaker 1: I didn't even really know what I was saying. I just want everybody to feel supported. Who works for me? And you were like I need time off, I'm like, well take it. But now if someone were to come to me and say, hey, I need some time, double it and I'll see.

00:35:38
Speaker 3: I was gonna say, what do you two years now? What do you feel like?

00:35:41
Speaker 1: Like?

00:35:42
Speaker 3: Do you feel like two weeks? Is? It depends everyone's situation is a little bit different.

00:35:47
Speaker 1: I guess yeah, I feel I took a week, but I made sure the show is still fully covered, and the second week I worked from home, so I was working fully but I was a stone's throw and there were times where we be in the studio and MOI I feel like, hey can you and I could because I was close. In a perfect world. First of all, I would, and our country kind of sucks at maternity leave, like there are laws that protect women from losing their jobs, but they're not getting paid. I think if it were me, I would try to mandate six months paid maternity leave for everyone. And that's probably not enough because there are countries in Europe that do way better than that. But I would do six months paid maternity leave, government covered and then if possible for the dudes, three weeks, I think it's a sufficient amount of time to fully be dedicated, and then if it's little more than that, If it's a less than that, great, But I think three weeks is a number that we should not scoff at if a dude wants to take off time for their wife, because I think, uneducated to me, would be like paternity leave. You didn't have the baby, suck it up. I could not feel more. And I never said that out loud, but I think as dudes were kind of taught that, like why does a dude need to leave? But now that I've been through it, it's needed. Yeah, I would three weeks to a month for a dude. You must take off. It's not even that you get paid, Like, you have to take off three to four weeks so you can be there and we're gonna come and look in your window and make sure you're supporting that, Like that would be part of that.

00:37:13
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're not going on vacations.

00:37:14
Speaker 1: That would be part of the rules, part of the law. Yeah. Thanks, often use you as a source when I'm like, man, i think it's crazy for us. What about if we had two? Yeah, that's crazy.

00:37:23
Speaker 3: That's what a lot of people say that. I can't believe you do too. But to your point, you know the different story. You don't know the difference, and thank god, we don't know the difference, and hopefully it's just one from here on.

00:37:31
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