2026 NFL Draft Day 2 Recap!

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Speaker 1: Welcome to NFL Daily, where the real sickos came out on Day two of the Draft. It's myself, It's Nick Shook. The day's over one hundred picks have been selected, trades have been made, not just trades up and down the draft board, but some veteran trades. And to break it all down, I think, yes, it's gonna be Nick Shook on this show. We go through the most interesting moments of Day two, rounds two and three of the drafts. Are you ready, shookyuh born ready, Let's do it. You've been studying these draft picks. You know throughout you nailed the Jeremiah Love pick at number three, who was the defensive tackle. I believe that you nailed tonight.

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Speaker 2: Well, I went around too early because I got a little over my skis there and I said Lee Hunter from Texas Tech was gonna go to Carolina.

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Speaker 3: He went to Carolina. Yes, in the second round, not in the first round.

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Speaker 1: I had one of those as well. We're gonna get to it like right player, wrong round. But why don't we start and we'll go through the most interesting teams of the day. Why don't we actually start with the big veteran trade of the day. It was something that we expected. Then we'll talk about the rest of the Eagles picks. We'll get to the Browns, the Jets, forty nine ers, all sorts of interesting picks today, but let's talk about the Jonathan Grenard trade. One of I would say the fifteen to twenty at a maximum best pass rushers in the NFL changed teams today was long rumored and then all but reported by our NFL Daily colleague Ali Connolly. He dropped it on a mock Draft episode that he thought the Grenard trade was already agreed to earlier this week, and wouldn't you know it, the Eagles acquired the Vikings pass rusher for their twenty twenty six third round pick. Now, they had a third round pick tonight. We'll get to that, but that was the Jets pick and a twenty twenty seven third round pick, so two third round picks. They do get a seventh round pick back. They also give Jonathan a four year, one hundred million dollar contract, so twenty five million dollars per year, fifty million dollars guaranteed. Once we look under the hood, I'm guessing it's it's more like a two for fifty type of year. But man, there's a lot going on with this Eagles team, and we'll kind of get to what the picks mean. But adding another pass rusher, considering what their defensive line already looked like, makes this team kind of look a little more like the Eagles teams of old.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely, And I think it was an ideal trade for the Eagles to make, just because this is a team that two years ago had this defensive line with all of these different quarterback hunters. This this front seven was excellent. It was what powered, you know, their run to a Super Bowl victory, and they didn't have that same juice last year. Now, they went and acquired Jalen Phillips, you know, near the deadline, and he produced. Then he leaves in the offseason, so they had that void. They you know, they still had players, but they did Jalox Hunt, well, Moro Jomo, players like that. But it's like, you need more juice, so you go get Grenard who I thought back when it was it two off seasons ago, when daneil Hunter goes to Houston and then Grenard goes to Minnesota, they essentially swapped teams. Both free agents swap teams right that it made more sense for Minnesota in that situation because I liked Grenard's upside and he produced now last year not so much, only three sacks in twelve games. You know, wasn't available for the entire season. But I still think they got their return on investment and then they're able to move him at a time in which we know this offseason they've been struggling for cap space and it seems like they've been trying to fluidly rebuild some of the defensive front. They've done it with these draft picks that they've made tonight, and this makes a ton of sense for both parties, and I think it gives the Eagles the juice they were lacking and hopefully he's able to produce like he did two seasons ago with this one.

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Speaker 1: Well, why does it make sense for the Vikings? I mean, if they got a decent haul for Gernard, But this I believe maybe your answer is just going to be finances, because I actually think that was a rare case. That's all it is. Yeah, yeah, but it's pretty rare when a team actually gives up a a relatively young player and now he's getting to his third contracts, like he's towards the end of his prime, but a relatively young player that they want to keep. That's productive because of finances, But they were if anyone remembers the team that was like fifty million dollars over the salary cap going into the offseason. They found a way to get under in time. But I like their pass rush group. Now you mentioned to Jomo they signed Jordan Davis long term. I think Jalen Carter is going to get a contract eventually long term. And then on the outside you have Jylex, you have Jonathan Grenard, you have Nolan Smith, and you have Arnold A. Baketti, who I think was a fun free agent signing as like a fourth edge. That's a good group when you also have Zach Bond and Jahad Campbell blitz it in and you're thinking, okay, with that secondary, that can be one of the very best defenses in the league. Now let's talk about what they did in the draft. I think you know you love the Makai Lemon pick. At least I did they take him away from the Steelers. He's going to help open up the field for DeVante Smith, and so you think Okay, they're probably good at receiver. No, what do they with their fifty fourth overall pick? Eli Stowers, the Vanderbilt tight end goes fifty fourth overall. Big slot you know, who's like a big, physical slot. It's probably not gonna block at all. He's called the tight end. To me, you almost have to grade him as just a wide receiver. But when you do, I think he probably went around where he should have gone in this draft at wide receiver. He's that talented huh who kind of plays like a big slot on that team.

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Speaker 2: Nick, Look, maybe there's a guy that also owns the position. I think his name is Dallas Goddard, and it's a guy that they're probably gonna move on and move on from after this season because of money and where he is at this point in his career. We've had to deal with the whole will he won't he be back for the last couple of off seasons. And you look at the contract you got void years after this year. So the parting is coming right, and this is an ideal replacement, a guy that fits that mold like you just said, who plays a lot like God.

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Speaker 3: It's Eli Stowers, a converted quarterback.

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Speaker 2: Who hasn't played tight end for very long, also has bounced around a couple of schools. He was Texas A and m New Mexico State, that ends up at Vanderbilt, follows Diego Pavia to Nashville, and they you know, they continue their great connection. He makes a bunch of big catches for the Commodoors over the last couple of seasons and elevates his draft stocks to the point where I think some people earlier in the draft process thought he might go in the first round. He doesn't go in the first round, but it's a savvy pick for Howie Roseman, who both gets an option that they can use right now and also an option that they can replace Goddard with over the long term, which is exactly how he's always drafted.

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Speaker 3: I love the pick for them.

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Speaker 2: I think that the key to a lot of offenses, and especially ones that have struggled or been stuck in the mud in recent years like the Eagles have been, is getting a good tight end. And he got two good tight ends for a year to get you out of the mud and one to continue to lean on in the years after that.

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Speaker 1: Did I set you up poorly? Am? I? Like you know, Jalen throw Jalen Hurts thrown over the middle of the field, because in my head, Dallas Goddard might have been a better answer than the one that I had in my head. But he is on the roster and he can block a Lit'll at least he used to be able to. And you're right, Stowers is a big slot. I was thinking about a J. Brown.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I know, I know, I just I pushed that out of my mind because of all the trade talk. I don't think about that as like part of their scheme going forward. He's already he's the door.

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Speaker 1: Saying he's kind of it's not a one to one obviously, and if has if if he has like one third of the career as a J. Brown, that they'll be happy. I just mean, in terms of some of the things that you're gonna be asking Eli Stowers to do, some of the routes that he run, I don't think it's that far from what what you know A J. Brown. You know they're gonna have Eli Stowers running some slants. I do not think at this point, based on everything I've heard asked Oli Connelly's talked about it on the show too. Like he is not ready to be an inline tight end whatsoever. And I don't think he's even ready at this point to be a move tight end where he's gonna be, you know, playing aggressive and digging people, Like he is just not going to be that guy. He's just going to be a big receiver. But you think about the receivers now that they've Makay Lemon in the middle of the field, Dontavian Wicks, they give a one year extension to when they sign him. Hollywood Brown who thought he was wide receiver too when he arrived. If A. J. Brown wasn't going to be there, now he might be wide receiver four. And they're all helping to set up DeVante Smith. Now you have Stours at tight end along with Goddard Calcaterra still there. They how he's done it again, He's done.

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Speaker 2: What's also kind of fun about this is you can go twelve personnel and like mimic as if you are focusing on the run and with Stours though, it's like yeah, but it's not really a full real tight end at this point. I kind of think back to like early different players, different builds, But like you think about the tweener of receiver tight end. I think about Evan Ingram when he came into the league and how you can kind of use him in that role too. So very interesting and nice little wrinkle for the new offense and Sean mannon now at OC.

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Speaker 1: It's just funny because Noah has ever been more pre traded than a J. Brown is right now. Yeah, I've never seen a scenario. We're just white like every day he gets more traded, Like it's every day we add another receiver to help replace AJ Brown. So we'll find out. I'm curious what the compensation is going to be for that. They also take Markel Bell, by the way, the Miami tackle at the top of the third round, who was thought of as kind of a toolsy tackle, and we thought the Eagles would be looking at tackle for a guy for the future. I don't know if he's going to have a great career or not, but man, he landed in the perfect spot to develop. I don't you have a lot of, you know, deep offensive line takes. I don't know if you had a markl Belt.

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Speaker 3: I don't really have a Mark hel Belt take.

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Speaker 2: Because I really thought that Blake Miller was going to be the guy for them, just it made too much sense to fit, you know, to get there, build a succession plan with you know, Lane Johnson.

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Speaker 3: But he wasn't there, so they had to call an audible let's.

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Speaker 1: Go start, like start going through some of the teams. We were really intrigued for what they did on Day two and kind of what it means in terms of what they did day one. Denzel Boston is added to the Browns wide receiver group alongside my guy, Casey Conceptsjo. Now, on one hand, I'm a little disappointed because the way the Browns receiver depth chart looked, I thought m Concepts she owne could be offensive rookie of the year. He could lead this team in targets. If this you know, offense can be good enough, but at least he could just dominate. Now you're adding another guy in Denzel Boston. But I like how the Washington physical outside receiver kind of compliments concepcion. I feel like the Browns are having a good couple of days and there's a reason for optimism in Cleveland.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, plenty.

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Speaker 2: I Mean, look, I'm the biggest cynic when it comes to that team of anybody, but even I had to take a step back after Andrew Berry navigated this draft both last night and tonight effectively because it wasn't the only pick they made tonight, and just say and admit, he's killing it.

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Speaker 3: He's cooking it right.

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Speaker 2: He's cooking right now, like Andrew Berry got the chef hat on whipping up some delicious treats. Doing a great job with this draft, And it really did begin with Boston, a guy that I think a lot of people forgot was still available after Round one was over and the Browns spin one of their early second round picks on him, And you're right, the complimentary factor is what makes this most appealing to the Browns, who had probably the worst receiver room in the NFL, one of the worst at the end of last season. Now you've got whatever you have in Jerry Judy, I still like the potential of Isaiah Bond, and then you've got Concepcion, who is the run after catch guy who still I think could be in play for Offensive Rookie of the Year because I don't think that Boston takes a ton of targets away from him. He might take some targets away, but what he doesn't take away is the potential to produce, because I still think Conceptsion his biggest strength is going to be run after catch, whereas Boston it's like, I need you to post somebody up, I need you to get open against a smaller dB and when we're in the red zone. However many times that might be the case for the Browns this year. That's who we're throwing to the fade to the back corner of the end zone. The guy that goes up and makes the plays, very surehands, big receiver, kind of the inverse of Conceptcion, which is why they work so well together and might make so much.

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Speaker 3: Sense for the Browns.

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Speaker 2: Who Andrew Berry has just thrown all the resources at figuring this offense out this offseason offensive line additions. I think they overpaid, but you have to or at least overvalued. And then you get Spencer Fanno in the first round, two receivers. Then he goes to the defensive side with Emmanuel mc warren, a.

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Speaker 3: Guy who was fifteenth on DJ's top fifty, and they get him. What was that the third round, late in the second round. Late in the second round, I think it was pick fifty.

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Speaker 2: They trade back in to make a great pick and solidify what's been a very good two days for Andrew Berry.

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Speaker 1: It was pick it's cat nick, it's catnip for the draft doors, because they did a good job of moving back with the Fano pick, getting extra picks. They already had a bunch of picks. Then you use them to get McNeil Warren, who, yeah, is maybe not quite on tape like as athletic in terms of like the freakiness that he tested at like it wasn't a total freak He didn't look like that necessarily when he played, but a versatile safety to add to that secondary. I think they do have a few more issues on their defense than maybe their fans admit, but I think he's going to help. And then you add another tackle in the third round too, who was a barber for Benorida. Like they they've added a ton of options on their offensive line, and we'll see. You have to give Andrew Berry a ton of credit for what this looks like on paper and for what the draft class was a year ago. You still have to see that these picks actually work out. But the idea of keeping Andrew Berry another year at least right now, you know, I guess it makes sense. I get I have to I.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, i'd begrudge I don't know, I'd be grudgingly agree. We'll see, We'll let it all play out.

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Speaker 1: The thing is that all these guys are setting up for like a fun offense with who at quarterback in twenty twenty seven. You don't want to win too many games. Then you're going to be out of the Arch Manning sweepstakes. Although there's a lot of quarterbacks will be in this class, but they're obviously going to try to win games as quickly as they can because you never know, another bad season and they all could be gone. But thinking about those two new receivers with Harold Fannin from a year ago, when Quinnchod Jenkins gets healthy at running back, that is a fun young core for Browns fans to look forward to. I think the Jets have had a nice week. It does feel similar to some years were were like, oh the Jets and Browns are having a nice offseason. Then it all falls apart, but our guy DiAngelo Ponds finally gets taken at fiftieth. Overall that I said, one of my big questions for the draft was gonna be whether at his size. He goes early enough because his tape Nick was maybe first round worthy and he's just what easy five to eight and like one hundred and like it's just whether how much you believe in, like whether a five eight cornerback can succeed, because he was one of the keys, if not the biggest key, to one of the best defenses in the entire college football and Denzel Boston and his matchup actually was one reason why I think a lot of people have faith he can hold up at the NFL level. They tried to post him up like three times in that game, and he did a good job against Denzel Boston's size. Just a fiery player and I really like what the Jets have done overall.

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Speaker 3: Firey is a good way to describe him. Instinctive.

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Speaker 2: I think a guy that comes in with a lot of experience and just a natural kind of nose for the ball. We saw it in the pick six against Oregon. Actually that's how we're playing right now. If you're watching on YouTube the pick six on like the very first play of the play of their playoff game against Oregon, and it's just kind of who he is. Yes he's small, Yes he's got the body type of a slot, but he plays bigger than he actually is on the field. We'll give them the extra five eighths of an inch. By the way, he's almost five nine, Okay, We're not gonna, you know, short him on any of his height measurements.

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Speaker 3: And I just love the way he plays.

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Speaker 2: He's just one of those like classic guys that he has the high motor, high energy, high desire that tries to overcome his size.

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Speaker 3: And for the Jets and Aaron Glenn, they need guys like that. And you know, you look at.

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Speaker 2: Their draft through the first two rounds, because they had three first round picks to trade back to the first round, they mind Indiana for two of their best players. They got Omar Cooper, who was one of my favorite receivers. I think the takes on him are a little mixed, but I'm a big fan of him for similar reasons to Pond's kind of just a physically built guy, not built quite as big as Deebo Samuel, but a guy that I really trust to be a good run after.

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Speaker 3: Catch, tough guy.

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Speaker 2: You go for the potential athleticism with Kenyon Sadik, which kind of didn't make sense given what they've done at tight end over the last few years, but you're fine with it. You go for the upside, and then, of course, David Bailey, I think you're going four for four so far. These are four players that I love, four players that I had my eye on in the whole pre draft process. They all end up in New York. You bail out of round three, and that's perfectly fine with me.

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Speaker 1: I think they are all high ceiling, riskier type picks. I think if you're fans of these players, it's not the perfect situation for them necessarily, but I do think for the Jets it makes sense everything that they did and is one of my favorite moments of the entire night. Daniel Jeremiah, my forties and Free Agent's co host, we got our last show of this season coming up, going up on Tuesday, and I know how fired up he was to see D'Angelo Pons, a player that he loved that he put back into his top fifty at fifty, get drafted at fifty, and then all through the draft process he has compared him to Aaron Glenn, and who drafts him but Aaron Glenn. And then the Jets put out a video of Aaron Glenn and their g Darren Moojie just being absolutely fired up that they compare Ponds to Aaron Glenn and they show some old Glenn footage. So just a fun draft moment on day two. And I'm really gonna be watching this kid. I think he's gonna be a fun, exciting player to watch. And if he's too small, then you know it's gonna be a big knock for the short kings like myself.

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Speaker 3: You know, you know, I don't take it. That's why your fault.

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Speaker 1: I'm rooting for him. Did not help. This did not help my college tennis upside my height. The forty nine ers, let's just go back to the start of the night. They had the first pick. I was curious which way they were going to go. I should have known that Kyle Shanahan, who is just a receiver guy through and through, decided okay, I'm taking my guy they had traded back in the first round. They take John Stribbling and reminds me a little bit of Brandon Nyuk coming out of college. There was a report that the forty nine ers are trying like crazy to continue to trade Brandon Nayuk. That has not happened. Yet I don't think that will happen. And I'd be mildly surprised if, like the Commanders give up, like a seventh round pick swap for him. But in the end, I think they're just gonna get cut. But they take, you know, stribbling, And he talked in his media availability on Friday that like, it's all about blocking, it's all about aggression, and that's sort of what the forty nine Ers love, like a wide receiver that can dig you out blocking in the running game, and then a guy who can make plays after the catch. So adding another weapon there for a group that I think needed one.

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Speaker 2: And you know, it's funny because if you look at the forty nine ers offseason, you don't think about Ayyuk's role in this, and you look at Mike Evans, Ricky Piterslol, and Christian Kirk as your top three, you think, well, why did they spend a second round pick on a receiver? And it's because they still love to run the football and they need willing blockers. And this guy is a willing blocker who, like you said, reminds people a lot of Brandon Ayyuk for the way that he can make plays down the middle of the field. Again, if you're watching a YouTube, we just ran one of those highlights of him making a play down the scene. He's able to get up and get after it outside. And I mean, what more can you ask for a round tree project?

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Speaker 1: A guy that can run more routes, that's the thing. They love.

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Speaker 3: These got hears and you got Evans, and you got Kirk for it's a very well balanced receiving corps.

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Speaker 1: I like it.

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Speaker 3: You can teach him stuff later.

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Speaker 1: That's fair. And Kyle Sander, who's kind of a receiver guru and I think likes these projects of teaching these guys. Some have worked out over the year. Some have not, to be fair, they've you know, David Bell, they've had the not David Bell. Rather than thinking of a third round pick a couple of Browns player, they've had these third round picks that haven't necessarily worked out. This is a high two. I wasn't high on the the Auk pick at the time. And then this one, like again, you just don't see many different routes on his tape. People comparing him to Debo that man, that's a high, high bar. It's like they have a type. They've made it work. We'll see if it works this time. They also traded de Winters, their linebacker, to the Dallas Cowboys. What did you think about that move? For a fifth night?

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Speaker 3: That was a little confusing to me.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I know that you have Fred Warner, I know you got Drake green Law, but I think you learned last year that you need depth. And I'm not entirely certain why they did that unless there was It was like one of those players where they're just thinking, all right, we're going to move on from him before long. This is now the best time that we could capitalize and get something back.

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Speaker 1: You wanted more money, Ie, That's.

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Speaker 2: Usually what happens, right is we're gonna we're probably not gonna see eye to eye, and we're going to move on from So let's get something for him.

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Speaker 1: Let's talk about the Cowboys that now, because they add d Winters to a position that they absolutely need and he becomes probably the best off ball linebacker. Well, they have to damarveat overshowed. I should take that back when he's healthy. He's a dynamic piece that kind of moves around. But those are two really fun players. Winters had his injury problems to last year, but then they draft one of all the's favorites. I'm looking forward to talking winners and losers with him on Sunday. I'm going to guess the Cowboys are going to be part of the winners because this draft class has been awesome, including the only pick that they made I believe on Friday, which was Jayshawn Barham from Michigan. Third round pick. Really fun player, good value. So they double up at linebacker and it just continues what I think. It's been an awesome couple of days for the Cowboys.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, not a lot of picks, but it shows that quality can matter more than quantity. I think, here, you go get your guy. First off, they lucked into getting Caleb Downs at eleven. I mean that was a home run of a pick. You got to trade up one spot to go make sure you get a guy who probably should have been going in the top seven.

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Speaker 3: Go do it. You're gonna be happy.

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Speaker 2: You did in the end. And it was a position of need. It's defense, defense, defense, and it's only three picks. But go look at their depth chart, like just take a quick scan of their depth chart. They have depth now like an unbelievable depth that I never expected to see on the Cowboys depth chart because of what they've done this offseason.

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Speaker 3: You acquired d winners. He's listed behind overshown right.

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Speaker 2: If you like marys Leafau, he's behind Shamar James, Malachi Lawrence, listed behind Azeraku and Barham listed behind Gary. Like these are, you have a a two deep that is strong, and you also have a developmental two deep, Whereas like when Gary or you move on from some of these other guys, eventually you got guys right behind them and slide in that you've been developing this whole time.

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Speaker 3: And we know how injuries affect teams.

00:22:03
Speaker 2: The Cowboys couldn't afford to get hurt last year because their defense was already so bad.

00:22:07
Speaker 3: They are preparing for that.

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Speaker 2: I don't give them a lot of credit when it comes to front office decisions because they wait too long to resign guys and they make things weird and it's annoying. But they've done a really good job through the first three rounds of this draft.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, by the way, that everyone who has joined us live on YouTube on Friday, we know a lot of people are listening on over the weekend and The most important question in the chat right now is where's Caid club Nick going. No, the quarterbacks did not go off high as we thought. It's crazy because if you look, you know how people do mock drafts the week after or the day after the actual draft. For now, if you look at last year's mock drafts the day after, there was a lot of Caid club Nick in the top ten.

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Speaker 2: I went to the EA event last year for college football twenty six or twenty five, right, yeah, the current game. Club Nick was there, like it's one of the guys to like talk about the game. And I'm thinking, like, in the back of my head, I was like this, this is a projection right here. I don't know, but you know, you had Ryan Williams who was on the cover with jeremih Smith and Kate club Dick and was like, okay.

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Speaker 1: Jared Jeremi. These days everyone wanted a quarterback. You just got to find one to pick. They went, They went with the wrong horse. They could have gone with Carson Beck. That would have been a weird one too, although he was playing in the National Championship. The Cardinals went with Carson Beck to start the third round. I thought it was an interesting quote after the draft. Monte austen Fort said, we didn't have to find draft a quarterback. We didn't come into this draft saying that we had to take one. But since Carson Beck fell to us at sixty fifth overall, it just made sense to I mean, were you expecting him to go earlier? I mean, I know, I know Tom Pelisero said he could go in the first round, but this was earlier than I ever expected. And I think the only reason why he even went this early is because Ty Simpson already got yanked by the Rams, so the Cardinals couldn't take him. I don't know if anyone else was taking Carson Beck at sixty fifth overall. If you play out Carson Beck's future career, like to me, in the top ten percent dile, I would say twenty percent out of it would be have Jacoby Brissette's career. You could maybe one day become Jacoby Brissette. I think that's not a bad comp for him.

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Speaker 3: That's like, what are we doing here? Comp Come on, now, why do we do it here? No?

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Speaker 2: Okay, So look, I agree because I think that we went into the last college football season and looked at Carson Beck as not a failure but a disappointment. And then he goes to Miami and they get off to a kind of a strange start.

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Speaker 3: You know, they beat Notre Dame. He plays well in that game for the most part.

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Speaker 2: You know, we see the emergence of some young stars on that team, right, both on offense and defense. And then they eventually make the playoff. They get in, you know, by the edge, you know, by a nose over Notre Dame, and they take full advantage of it. And nobody took more advantage of it, I think than Arson Back. I mean, the kid delivered repeatedly in the playoff, whether it was against Ohio State oleness and even that loss against Indiana in the National championship game. That touchdown run right there on YouTube that we're showing, that was one of those plays that stuck in my mind. Yes it was wide open, yes it was just get out of the pocket and find the end zone. But that was the type of play that he consistently made throughout this playoff, and I think he rehabilitated his reputation over the course of that playoff run that then pushed him into consideration of Round three. Now, before he left Georgia. The previous season, when he was coming into his second season at Georgia, everybody was like, Oh, he's going to be a future first round pick, and it all fell apart. He had an elbow injury. He declared for the draft, then decided against it, went to Miami. Right, I think this is the right spot for him, and I think Arizona can justify it by both pointing to the fact that they don't have a long term project, they don't have an answer beyond this year. They got two veterans in Brisset in Minshew, and also I thought Ian Rappaport made a good point right after they drafted Carson Beck, which is that Jakoby Brissett wants a new contract and isn't showing up to workouts, And I was like, hmmm, sense, not that they're not going to get that done, but that does make a little more sense why they would take Carson Beck there.

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Speaker 1: But it's all just bad process. How you got to this point, like you're having to give up money to get rid of Kyler Murray, who's still way better than anyone who's actually on your roster that you had re signed at the last second before you even hired your your last coach. So this GM had to inherit him, and it all comes back to ownership, I believe, who also, according to some reports, had a part of that Jeremiah Love pick. And yeah, Jeremiah loves a great player. Congratulations that you know how to like that you can take a good player at third overall. But the process to me is bad because you didn't pick up any extra picks. They only have their picks at the top of each round, and then you're burning a very valuable top of the third round pick when you have so many needs on your roster in a guy that, like I said, the odds are in a good scenario he'll have a journeyman quarterback career. And to me, it's like, but you're in year four of your operation. It's just there's no plan here. I did like the Chase Beisantis pick to start the day they had the thirty fourth overall pick a good guard.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought that was the right response after a drafting Love by the way, because everyone was like, well, what are you going to put him behind?

00:27:15
Speaker 3: What? You know, what's around him?

00:27:17
Speaker 2: They have so many needs and I agreed with that, So you go get a guard that I'm a big fan of who can help create lanes for him right, good climber, a guy, a guy with you know, mobility that I think is actually going to be, you know, somebody that surprises a lot of people in the way that he can get to the second level.

00:27:29
Speaker 3: I think that that's going to look like a really good pick.

00:27:30
Speaker 2: I agree with the process, but we were forgetting the fact that they're operating with a new coach. It's like a half reset, where like you reset the timeline to a degree.

00:27:37
Speaker 1: They're not addressing their defense. They don't have linebackers right now, like they could certainly use more upfront.

00:27:44
Speaker 3: Mac Wilson disagrees upfront.

00:27:46
Speaker 1: It's it's just like it's it's just a lot.

00:27:51
Speaker 2: Hey, look, you're not going to turn this around overnight. I understand what you're saying. But I do like their offensive line. By the way people were saying, like who who was he possibly gunning block for? I would say that could be the strength of their team. Paris Johnson at left tackle, Samalu at left guard, fro Holt when he's healthy at center is a very good center. And now Besonda's at right guard, that's four fifths of a good offensive line, so I think they'll be able to run the ball. Shout out to Sam who let us know his past four thirty in the morning in the UK and there's nothing he'd rather be doing than watching me and Nick break down some day. Two picks, All right, let's talk Drew Aller. People were asking, all what about the Steelers picks? I mean, you know, before every pick, the sticks comes out, and this was not the Steelers first pick of the night. Wasn't their last one either, which was fun that that was Jennings Dunker. What a great way to end the night the guard.

00:28:40
Speaker 1: But yes, Drew Aller, the Penn State quarterback goes in the middle of the third round, maybe about a round earlier than people expected, and not a team I think people expected to take a quarterback because they kind of had their mid round developmental guy and will Howard Mason Rudolph's on the roster. We're assuming Aaron Rodgers is coming back. Maybe now May Rudolph is up for a trade according to Ian Rappaport, But yep, it's is interesting that McCarthy wanted his own guy to develop and they take Drew Allar another one who at one point people thought could be like a top ten type of pick. Yeah.

00:29:12
Speaker 2: So in Steelers circles in the week's leading up to this, they've been preparing for a trade with Mason Rudolph because they've kind of been expecting that the Steelers would take a quarterback at some point.

00:29:22
Speaker 3: In fact, I think a lot of them wanted Beck in this range.

00:29:25
Speaker 2: So they end up with Aler, which made me laugh because this is the franchise that spent a first round pick on Kenny Pickett, Pittsburgh guy.

00:29:30
Speaker 3: Now they get the Penn State guy and Aler. Right.

00:29:32
Speaker 2: It also made me laugh because just a weird like aside here, Drew Alis from Medina, Ohio grew up a diehard Browns fan, went almost every home game from elementary school through high school. His family's had season tickets since the sixties. And he gets drafted by the Steelers. Like, that's just hilarious to me. But when it comes to the player, I think you're right in that McCarthy wants a guy that he can develop and make his own and prides himself on being a quarterback developer, and Aler is the measurables guy at the BAZ in this class if you're targeting that sort of you know, physical attributes that you can mold into an effective professional quarterback.

00:30:08
Speaker 3: Do I believe it's going to happen.

00:30:10
Speaker 2: No, because the measurables have always been there and he's never quite lived up to it. Now, you can't take this most recent season into account because he got hurt and lost half the season. And you can look to the point that they made the College Football Playoff semifinal two years ago and think, okay, well he got them there, but against good defenses. He was never able to become an effective quarterback throughout his collegiate career. It's kind of the unfortunate story of a lot of Penn State quarterbacks. And so I think taking him in day two is aspirational and you think that somebody else is going to snack him, and maybe the Carson Backs election motivated you to spend that pick on him. It also points to you can't believe teams when they're banging the drum for their Day three quarterback they took last year. We love Will Howard, we love Will Howard, and then they go draft this guy.

00:30:54
Speaker 1: We don't believe the teams they'll they'll have a chance he'll have a chance to compete there with Aler. You know, they entered this draft Omar Kano was a big week for him. A bunch of extra picks, we'll see how they work out. They actually use an extra fourth to trade up for Jeremy Bernard because I think they thought they were running out of possible receivers the Alabama product. Of course, they got, you know, swiped when they tried to take Makai Lemon in round one, and so Bernard is kind of the consolation prize. Maybe panicked a little bit, gave up an extra fourth just to get a very solid I like Jeremy Bernard. I think he's like an NFL player. He'll be solid for them in a way that Roman Wilson has not been as a high pick. Then in the third round they take Georgia cornerback Dalon Everett, who you know, don't have a huge take on John Ledyard, who I really respect, you know, thinks the tape just isn't there for Dalan ever. But they kind of a big swing there, and then they trade up again. Ant they give up another pick to move up to take Jennings Dunker. So they took these extra picks. They had and Jennings Dunker is a guard from Iowa who has a chance to play sooner than later. And it's just gonna be kind of a show me draft for Omar Khan and these Steelers teams. And I always say, take a quarterback every year until you get one. Yeah, I guess I gotta stand behind it.

00:32:19
Speaker 3: Yeah, stay on that with Carson back too. This Steelers draft.

00:32:22
Speaker 2: I don't mean to sound like a hater, because you gotta let all this play out. It feels like a draft that has unfolded, with them chasing missing mackay Lemont, like, you know, pivoting to Ian Cher from Arizona State, who's one of my favorite tackles, but you already had a right tackle and he is a right tackle, and where do you fit him in?

00:32:38
Speaker 3: Are you gonna move guys?

00:32:39
Speaker 2: What happens with Roderck Jones and Troy Fatanu like doesn't make a lot of sense, And it seems like they've been scrambling ever since then to try to, like you come back and get Bernard, who, like you said, pro player, but a receiver, almost to make your fan base happy because you didn't get one in the first round. And then it just cascades from there, so we'll see hopefully they can, you know, round it out and it ends up looking better than it does right now.

00:32:59
Speaker 1: I like all the international viewers in the chat. It's five thirty seven in the Netherlands according to one, and it's now Saturday afternoon in New Zealand. It's three and three thirty in the afternoon, just having a casual Saturday. The future is bright. Let's talk about the Texans. This was the pick that I had mocked correctly, but in the wrong round. I had them taking Caden McDonald the nose tackle at twenty eight. Instead they end up taking him from Ohio State at thirty six. Some trade chicanery to make this all happen. No one trades more literally than Nick Asario every single pick, and they have a ton that that they're making in these I think seven rounds have has been traded at at some point except for one. Kaden McDonald a really nice image of him during the draft. He was the only guy in the green room in Pittsburgh tonight immediately crying like the second he got drafted, and that continued really for a while all the way till he got to the stage. And you just saw the relief and the emotion of, you know, his lifelong dream finally being realized. And he said he thought he was the best player of the draft and that everyone made a mistake passing on him. I guess including the Texans who passed on him once. That's confidence nick for a nose tackle that wasn't a starter, not much of a pass rusher. But man, I liked him in the first round to the Texans because I thought this team doesn't need that much, but what they do need is a run stuffer. So like, m hmm, when you're this good, you can kind of get a little esoteric with your picks, and he was the best run stuffer in this class.

00:34:37
Speaker 3: Yeah.

00:34:37
Speaker 2: Yeah, it didn't rise to relative prominence until this past season, but that's also a product of playing on the best defensive college football over the last couple of years.

00:34:44
Speaker 3: I thought Matt.

00:34:44
Speaker 2: Patricia used him really well and kind of you know, exposed some of his strengths, which then elevated his draft stock. But I also felt like he lost a little bit in Indianapolis and from there on out kind of falling out of the first round. However, it's a great pick for the Texans. Because, like you said, they can get a little esoteric with it.

00:34:59
Speaker 3: They can just.

00:35:00
Speaker 2: Target niche needs because they really don't have any defensive needs. And they also love interior defensive lineman from Ohio State, Tommy Tegy is on that roster. One of my favorite names that most people don't know. But who makes a difference throwing kid McDonald too, just throwing more buck eyes there.

00:35:14
Speaker 3: I love that pick for them. I think they've done a pretty good job so far.

00:35:18
Speaker 1: I do as well. I thought it was interesting. At the top of round two, we heard a couple things about the Giants. Number one, despite a report from our are welly by our, I mean NFL Network's new colleague, Adam Schefter, But we're not NFL Networks, so I don't know what we are.

00:35:37
Speaker 2: We're on NFL our friends. Those are our friends. We'll just say our friends.

00:35:42
Speaker 1: He reported, cave on Tibodau, Oh, they're not looking to trade him, and then there was reports to start the night they are looking to potentially trade him with the Saints, a specific team who has engaged in conversations. Nick Underhill of New Orleans Football ended up backing it up, saying those conversations have been going on since February, so we'll see if something happens. Day three would probably be when it happens, because I don't think he was going to go for a Day two pick, and so that's interesting to think about. And then they continue to take defense Colton Hood, who Daniel Jeremiah had in the top twenty five at cornerback, young player, red shirt sophomore, uneven tape but kind of fits the profile of what you're looking for from an NFL cornerback. In the second round, they also take mile Kaie Fields, Notre Dame big kid, at seventy fourth overall. He was someone who had diverse opinions. I would say, well, it was not a player that the draft Knicks particularly loved. Kind of a guy who does not really get that much separation. But the Giants continue to take guys, you know, in terms of Colton Hood, Mauiinoa, and rvel Reese like those are three of DJ's top twenty two players something like that, and they have them all on their team from this draft.

00:36:52
Speaker 3: Yeah, I actually really like what they've done in this draft so far.

00:36:55
Speaker 2: And now it's funny because if you look at them over the last few years, you would think the way that they've and the way that they've built their defense, you would guess that this has been different GMS, but it's been the same GM. He just continues to throw picks in capital at the defensive front seven. And as soon as they took Reese in the first round, you thought, like you start running through the depth chart and you think, all right, Brian Burns and Rvel Reese and Abduil Carter And if you're like me for a moment, you forgot that Cavon Thibodeau is on the roster. So it makes sense that that they might try to trade him. That's no knock on him, of course, It's just that's how many guys they've accrued in that position group over the last few years. But I do like the selection of Hood because I think that you know, they were a bit lacking back there. They lost I think they lost a corner and two in the off season. And if you look at the secondary of the way it's structured. Now you've got Javon holland you got Tyler Nuban, who Giants fans aren't are a huge fan of so far, but and he added Greg Newsom, you added Pauls in the debo. Now you have Hood, that's a that's a pretty solid secondary And if this team is going to climb out of the cellar that it's been stuck in for so long, it's got to be more on the defensive side. I think back to that Broncos game when they played really well and then just fell apart and allowed the Broncos to come back to win. You've got to be able to have more guys over there to make a difference, and I think Hood is one of those guys, and it's a great value pick getting him at thirty seventies, twenty first on DJ's Top fifty. And that type of player that I think is really going to match the identity that you're trying to create with all this investment in the defense with fearsome guys, which is like Bully Bully. Then this is a guy that's not afraid to play press coverage. I think it's gonna be a really good fit in this defense.

00:38:28
Speaker 1: So as we continue to get people's different time zones, who's watching, I think we just have a message completely in Japanese, just Japanese kanji. So just shout out to everyone whoever you are watching out there in Japan. Let's talk about the Baltimore Ravens. Mark Ingram stepped up to the podium, and I gotta say, I think he kind of stole Pat McAfee's thunder. It was Matt McAfee's bit to really incite the crowd, and McAfee was up there doing his thing on Friday. But I think mark Ingram did it, but he did it better. Let's take a listen, PRIs Bird.

00:39:03
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00:39:15
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00:39:24
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00:39:25
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00:39:30
Speaker 1: Oh boy, yes, sir, that was amazing. Right before he introduced Zion Young as the pick, if you use a kid to say it, you know you can say whatever you want.

00:39:40
Speaker 3: Yeah, pretty much good.

00:39:42
Speaker 1: That's good parenting right there, giving that kid that moment. It's a little bit of a stretch to think of mark Ingram as a as a Raven's legend two years there was.

00:39:51
Speaker 3: A lot with the Big Trust. A Big Trust goes a long way.

00:39:54
Speaker 1: He did have like one kind of magical, really really fun season. I think it was twenty nineteen or so. Zion Young was the pick. They have a type in terms of their edges that they like, and then who did they take in the third run? I think it was Jacoby Lane.

00:40:09
Speaker 3: This is one of my favorite picks of Day two one.

00:40:11
Speaker 1: Why come on?

00:40:12
Speaker 7: Why?

00:40:13
Speaker 2: Because I love Jacoby Lane from his career at USC to his combine workout. He just really flashed at the combine like it was an effort thing, but it was also a talent and just natural skills thing, where like I'm just furiously writing notes about him throughout it. I think he made my All Combine team. If he didn't, he was an honorable mention. But I think he made my own combine team. And I was doing an appearance on the Baltimore Sun's Ravens podcast last week and They're talking to me about getting receivers in the first round. I'm like, don't take a receiver in the first round. Let's stop doing this for the Ravens. Take him in Day two because You're going to get some value there, and I think the perfect fit for this team is Jacoby Lane. And then they went to Jacoby Lane and I was like, Yes, this is perfect tall receiver, a guy that can fill the role that you never capitalized on with DeAndre Hopkins fits into this group really well, and a player that I think a lot of teams are going to look back on a few years now and be like, yeah, I wish we would have taken him instead of letting him fall to Baltimore in what was the third round, the eightieth overall.

00:41:08
Speaker 1: Pick, interesting fluid. I'm interested. He was kind of past my cut line of like receivers. I was truly excited about we have a couple coming up. But maybe I'll be wrong. The Bengals made a pick. I was excited about their first pick, and I kind of decided because teams, you know, every team got covered that took a pick on our show, everyone should check it out, myself and Jordan Rodrieg from Thursday Night. So the teams who had their first picks tonight, I just wanted to give them a little love. And for the Bengals, it's cash Is Howell, who to me could have been a first round pick. He's not a complete player, but in this class, which was you know, not incredibly deep man, just in terms of pass rush, juice like off the ball, and he knows how to pass rush. I think he's one of the top two or three guys in this class, So you get him at forty one overall might not even be an every down player, but is that such a bad result if he's a designated pass rusher that gets you off the field on third down. I liked it. I liked what they've done, and it's great to think they're continuing to focus on their defensive line.

00:42:14
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'm really proud of Duke Tobin, the GM of the Bengals, because for the longest time he has taken guys based off of measurables. Miles Murphy is an example of that, guys whose tape did not suggest that they might be super productive at the next level. This is the opposite, This is the legitimate inverse of what Duke Tobin usually does.

00:42:36
Speaker 3: Especially at edge rusher.

00:42:37
Speaker 2: You got a guy with the shortest arms in like a very long history of the position, but he arrives like a hammer. Like you said, a ton of pass rushing juice, A guy that I would fear if I had to take him in a one on one to tackle on the island, because not only is he explosive and powerful, but he's just quick and he's skilled.

00:42:55
Speaker 3: And I think that this is going to be a guy that you're right. You can bring him in on third down and just hunt the quarterback because guess you don't need it to go start. You've invested in this group enough. I talked about Murphy.

00:43:03
Speaker 2: You also had that investment in Shamar Stewart, another measurables guy with not a lot of production. You went and got boy a most the off season. It all makes sense like you now have some depth and some versatility at the position that you lacked before, and if it all goes right, it could solve a lot of their problems.

00:43:17
Speaker 1: Well, Samar Stewart never made sense to me. It was a crazy pick. It hasn't it looked. It's looked awful through one year. I think, as Howell personally, it's going to be a better pro. But we'll see. They also take who was it cornerback in the third round. I believe what was it from?

00:43:32
Speaker 3: It was to Cario Davis from Washington.

00:43:34
Speaker 1: Washington, My bad. Let's talk about the Dolphins. I knew I wanted to talk about them coming into the day because they had so many picks. I think they had five coming into the day. They traded around and ended up being four. Jacob Rodriguez, Texas tech linebacker, goes off the board at forty three, ahead of CJ. Allen, ahead of some other off ball linebackers that went pretty soon after him. A lot of them did get taken. In the second round, they take the Texas tech wide receiver Kaylee Douglas at seventy five before some higher ceiling guys, the tight end Will Kasmerrick. I mean, there was a ton of tight ends taken. I forgot to mention Houston also took one like that was way lower on the consensus board, and that was true for Kasmeric too. Some blocking guys who like went earlier, like tight ends flew off the board in day two. And then finally a receiver Chris Bell who is coming off of torn ACL but I would have taken up in the middle of the third round with that earlier pick from Louisville, who just if it hits, looks like a real deal Mega NFL receiver and maybe it's not going to work he's coming off of an injury. But when you saw him on some of those slants and some of the plays down the field, I mean, reminds you a little bit of Aj Brown, Like it just a physical dynamo. And so that's the Dolphins. Like they've had six picks so far. I think these six picks are going to go a long way to how we feel about John Eric Sullivan a year from now, for instance.

00:45:01
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think where you took Bell at ninety four minimizes the risk. Like if you're taking him late second, early third, then there's a little bit higher a risk, and then you worry is he going to actually return to form after the injury the end of the third round. I mean, you're in compensatory pick range. You're fine. That's totally fine with me. The way the tight ends kind of fell today did not unfold the way I thought.

00:45:21
Speaker 3: It would at all.

00:45:21
Speaker 2: There were guys that went around or two ahead of where everybody thought they would go, including myself, And I think you're right. A lot of it has to do with the blocking capabilities. As teams start to value tight ends for their blocking more you're kind of getting back to the middle between blocking and pass catching. We're pushing really hard toward pass catching and route running in recent years. But I love the Rodriguez pick more than anything, because, yes, you took him ahead of CJ. Allen, But I think that in most draft classes, Rodriguez might be linebacker one, and you get him in the second round, You get him at forty three overall, and you pair him with one of your pillars, one of the pillars that John Eric Sullivan talked about in Jordan Brooks. I like how they've gone about it so far. I know people were upset with how they let you know, the Cowboys trade up and take downs and then they take Procter at twelve. I would have liked them to take Joanna just because he was the best guard in the class. But overall, this picture is starting to become clear, and it's making some more sense for a team that needs to use all this capital to rebuild this roster.

00:46:13
Speaker 1: Jacob Rodriguez and Jordan Brooks together will be menaces. I mean, that is a demonic linebacker duo. I love that, and I love how he'll learn from Jordan Brooks that there's some similarities there, and yeah, the mustache, the neck. Rodriguez is a leader. The tight end, by the way, I was talking about that Houston took was Marlin signed from Michigan fifty ninth. Overall, some of these tight end picks were not.

00:46:38
Speaker 3: The worst one.

00:46:40
Speaker 1: Okay, we'll get to the worst one. The Falcons brought the Terrell brothers together. This was fun. Avionterrell fell a little bit in the second round and that allowed Atlanta with their first pick to draft AJ's brother. Pretty cool to see a brother cornerback duo. I think Aavianterrell is I checked the box type of cornerback. He moves smooth and fluid. Maybe not that explosive, just a guy I think you're going to have out there, maybe play some slot that like. Okay, he's an NFL player, like the type of guy you want that you get in the second round. And maybe he's not a super duper high ceiling standout, but that can play snaps for you in Pretty cool that these two brothers are going to play together. Zachariah Branch the Georgia Gadgety lightweight wide receiver in the third round, so we start to get a little view of what this new regime in Atlanta wants to do.

00:47:31
Speaker 2: Yeah, they keep a kid that transferred to Georgia in the state of Georgia, which is always nice. Right. There's a lot of local connections with Terrell and his brother and everything else, and that's all fun and games. But I actually think aby On Trella was one of my favorite corners in this class that wasn't projected to be your traditional like perimeter corner. I thought he's the best slot corner in the class. He's a smaller guy, and I wonder where he fits into this secondary.

00:47:52
Speaker 3: But I don't really.

00:47:54
Speaker 2: Worry about where he fits because I think that he's got the skills to overcome the fact that he's not a big corner to mirror guys to stay with them downfield. He's a fluid, you know, transitioner, you know, going from you know, the look at the line of scrimmage and swiveling the hips and staying with guys, which really matters. He's fast enough to stay with guys, the receivers that he's covering. I do think he's just scratching the surface. I know he's played a good amount of football at Clemson, but I do think he's just scratching the service. And if he's anything like his brother, his peak is coming. And the Falcons we have to have both of them.

00:48:24
Speaker 1: Here's where he's gonna fit in. How about opposite his brother, that would be fun. Mike Cues is starting right now opposite. Yeah, they have Billy Bowman at nickelback, so like there's an opportunity to play there either way. I think he's gonna be good enough to play.

00:48:37
Speaker 3: That's a fun secondary now Bates Watts, Bowman, Terrell Terrell, and Mike Hughes too. I mean that's that's a good and Cidie Brown's back there too.

00:48:46
Speaker 1: Shout out to Sporting Japan. By the way. At Sporting Japan, the Japanese guy's a Washington fan who really likes the pick so far. So thanks for thanks for tuning in. And yeah, we had some news on James Pierce on Thursday night. We didn't mention that there was a report that the felony charges against him could be dropped if he enters a certain program. That does not mean that the NFL will not potentially punish him for the domestic violence charges which he was arrested for and were very serious in fact, I personally would expect him to get some punishment from the NFL, perhaps very serious, but that looks like he could avoid jail time, which was a consideration. He of course, was the second first round pick that they traded for last year, or they gave up a first round pick to the Rams that turned into the thirteenth overall pick in this year's class. Let's talk about the Packers who started the day by giving Jayden Reid a contract extension interesting three years, fifty million dollars, but it's an extension off his current year, so it's in the end four for fifty two about eighteen per year, only twenty million dollars guaranteed. So he basically got Wandel Robin since contract, but not as good because of the guaranteed money. I would say that's good business for the Packers. Yeah. I don't think it's crazy idea for Jade and Reid to take that money. Either you're he's been injured and you know you're taking away some years of your prime, but you're locking yourself into like kind of a role player two slash three role. But I think a good bit of business there by the Packers, who've really reformed that room this this offseason.

00:50:25
Speaker 2: It's interesting, you know, when we think about Matt Leffuur's comments about people and their desire and if whether they like to fit or not. We've seen players leave, you know, don Tavian Wick's leaving.

00:50:35
Speaker 1: How they've kind of.

00:50:35
Speaker 2: Tried to settle this group a little bit and deliver more defined roles. And I think read is that you know, role player that you speak of less than twohundred fifty receiving yards last year. But I also think that like a lot of these guys battled for targets because they were just in and out, like you couldn't really get any consistency outside of once Watson came back that he was healthy, and then you're thinking, when are you gonna get Matthew Golden involved?

00:50:57
Speaker 3: Now it seems like there's less is more for them.

00:50:58
Speaker 2: They're kind of just like figuring out where they're going and getting a good number on Reid, who I mean, look, if he has a Wandale Robbinson year like Robbinson did last year, it'd be a great return for the Packers.

00:51:10
Speaker 1: And so their first draft pick was Brandon Seesay, who's just such a Packers pick. Toolsy like couldn't even stay on the field to play every snap at South Carolina, so the little confusing fifty second. Overall, some people thought he could be a first round type of player. Others weren't a fan at all. They also take a big defensive tackle, Chris McClellan. It's just they have their types. They take these big, physical guys and hope that they can mold them at almost every position, but especially on defense, especially taking big linemen and cornerbacks. We'll see if it works out. Some have not worked out too great. Another thing we see a lot during these drafts is the Lions really believing in their evaluation. Year after year, they have surprises. Blake Miller in the first round not a surprise, trading a fourth round pick just to move up a handful of spots to draft Derek Moore edge from Michigan, pairing him with another Michigan edge, Aiden Hutchinson. I was surprised by this. I guess More wasn't that low on the consensus board, like he was projected to be about a late second round pick. But man, they are always giving away just extra picks to move around, and then they take a player that was Derek Moore really gonna go. I don't know what. Do you have any thoughts on Derek Moore from Michigan.

00:52:23
Speaker 2: He was a round three projection Lance's comp on NFL dot Com as the aid Abby, which that's fun. I mean if you can, if you can match that and and actually capitalize on that ability, then I'm cool with that, especially opposite Aiden Hudginson. It gives offenses, you know, opposing offenses, two guys to really worry about, because you're always afraid of power, you know, perhaps sometimes more than speed. You can chip speed, you can account multiple people to speed. Power sometimes a little bit harder to handle. Right, I thought it was early. It was a little perplexing. I thought his teammate was the better.

00:52:52
Speaker 3: Of the two rushers, the one with more Jews he went later, But just.

00:52:56
Speaker 1: Why trade up if you're gonna take a surprising pick.

00:52:58
Speaker 3: This is what Brad Holmes does.

00:53:00
Speaker 2: This is what he's done over the last few years, and it's worked enough for him that now he has the confidence, all the confidence in the world to continue doing. Yeah, that's a hut of percent, but the batting average is pretty high.

00:53:09
Speaker 1: So the bucks I wanted to get into them. They take Josiah Trotter, Jeremiah Trotter, his son, Jeremiah Trotter Junior, his brother who's now with the Eagles. It's a good linebacker class, so I'm not gonna pick nits that they took him over. CJ Allen, our resident linebacker scout, Ali Connelly really thought the fit for Trotter for Tampa was actually better. He likes Trotter quite a bit and just thought like, in terms of the scheme, makes a lot of sense there. He's going to be your run stuffer. And then at eighty four they made one of my favorite picks of the night. And yes, this might be the last Gene Deckerhoff clip at least that's you know, taped live that we ever have on NFL Daily. Take it away, Jean, Welcome so the drafts in Pittsburgh.

00:54:00
Speaker 6: Thank you Pittsburgh fans for being the host of this tremendous draft. I'd like to thank the late Malcolm Glazier and the Glazier family for providing me with the opportunity to broadcast not just one, but two Super Bowl championships, super Bowl thirty seven, Super Bowl fifty five, and do all Buccaneer fans worldwide. Touchdown Tampa Bay. Speaking of touchdowns, Tampa Bay.

00:54:33
Speaker 3: With the eighty fourth pick and the.

00:54:36
Speaker 6: Twenty twenty six NFL Draft, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers select Ted Hurst wide receiver Georgia State.

00:54:49
Speaker 1: No box.

00:54:52
Speaker 3: To fire them, cannons, fire the cannons.

00:54:56
Speaker 1: Touchdown, Tampa Bay. We misseding Deckcraft. You never got to see because we didn't know burd when they won that in hindsight, anti climactic final game, whether they would be advancing to the playoffs. Remember that that was a wild time they won and then it didn't matter, thank you, and they look they got their Mike Evans replacement, Ted Hurst Georgia State. Baby, let's go. I love Ted Hurst.

00:55:28
Speaker 2: Well, I don't have much of a take on him other than the fact that that he's a long receiver and you need a long receiver to replace Mike Evans.

00:55:33
Speaker 1: I'm joking about the Mike Evans. Okay, they went one and eleven in the Sun Belt. You got to be pretty bad to go one and eleven in the Sun Belt, but you got to be pretty good to get drafted after being on the team that went one and eleven in the Sun Belt. You want to have some fun in terms of just like highlight real stuff. Go watch some ted Hurst dunking on fools in the Sunbelt, and I know the competition was great. Just but a big, high upside type of receiver like Chris Belt, like Chris Brasel, who we didn't mention earlier, got taken in this second round, big fan of him by the Panthers or third round. Rather just some like high upside players Brasl's coming from Tennessee. I think for where Brasel got drafted and then where Hurst got drafted, which was like mid third and Brasl was in roughly in the same area. That sounds right like it wasn't. It wasn't too early for either of those guys. I might like ted Hurst like a little bit better, But either way, some fun picks big receivers in the NFC South. Let's keep it rolling the Jacks. You mentioned the tight end that you thought was a worse pick. Were you taught earlier when we were talking about some tight end reaches. Were you talking about the Jaguars pick Nate.

00:56:41
Speaker 2: Pork Kircher got their first pick, the Texas A and M tight end, who is strictly like a blocking tight end. I understand valuing a blocking tight end. Like I said, it's coming back toward more value of blocking than just receiving. Where they took him was like the fifty six overall, their first pick of the track. I was like, wow, this is kind of crazy. But it started this whole tight end thing where everybody just started taking their favorite tight end and out of order of what we expected. I mean, he went before Oscar delp and I think that's going to that might age poorly in the larger picture we'll see.

00:57:15
Speaker 1: I mean, he has to be a special blocking tight end to make it worth it.

00:57:21
Speaker 7: You know.

00:57:22
Speaker 1: I always just am a little wary. And Albert Regis their defensive tackle from Texas A and M who is a physical freak, with their next pick in the third round. You know, both of these guys were in the one sixties in terms of the consensus board, in terms of where they were expected to get taken. They were viewed as like sixth round pick types, and maybe the league viewed both of them higher than that, and so that's a little unfair. But it's definitely James Gladstone kind of sticking his neck out and maybe being like, hey, we do things a little differently around here. We're going to do things different. They also take a safety Jaalen Husky out of Maryland with the last pick of the night, and then they kind of flip it and take Emmanuel Pregnant, the guard from Oregon that some people thought that Chargers may take as early as the first round if they like traded back. He just seemed like a Jim Harbaugh type of player, and he ends up falling all the way to the middle of the third round. And so in terms of quote unquote value, they get a guard that maybe can play right away, but yes, getting bold Jaguars it that.

00:58:19
Speaker 2: Was their best pick. Pregnant was the best pick. I was a huge fan of that At eighty eight. I thought that was a mild steal and it's a depth ad now that could end up being a starter later.

00:58:27
Speaker 3: Good pick for them.

00:58:29
Speaker 1: We're wrapping up soon, but I do love the Saints draft. Kristin Miller out of Georgia I think was a good value. And then his teammate Oscar Delp you mentioned at Georgia, Man, I know he didn't have a lot of production, but when you watch him, he looks like an NFL tight end.

00:58:43
Speaker 3: Like thirty targets. They never threw him the football. They haven't thrown a tight end the well what.

00:58:48
Speaker 1: Are you talking about. They made their whole offense out of, you know, a generational tight end.

00:58:53
Speaker 3: But this is Zach branch Is yere Man.

00:58:55
Speaker 1: I guess so, but uh, I like, you know, I'm mixed on Jordan Tyson, but I think Kristin Oscar Dell and second and third round both made a lot of sense. More importantly, the Saints haven't been trading up like they usually do. Appreciate, by the way, the domestic listeners checking in, it's eleven oh seven in Oklahoma right now. According to it's.

00:59:14
Speaker 3: Twelve eight here in Cleveland.

00:59:15
Speaker 1: Here in Cleveland. Yeah, yeah, we flew through some of the interesting picks. I thought that the Patriots giving up an extra fourth round pick to just move up a handful of spots for for Gabe Jacis a fourth and a sixth to and a second, you know that, to just to move up for Gabe Jacobs. The Illinois ed rusher was a little surprising. We'll see how that works out. There's some interesting players still left. Jermal McCoy, you know, at one point everyone thought he was a top ten pick. The knee is clearly a bigger issue. We've seen this with players over the years occasionally that you just didn't know going to the draft how the league viewed the medical situation. His twenty twenty four tape was probably the best cornerback tape of anyone in this entire class. He still has not been drafted. And then one of my favorite players, Keante Scott, one of my guys from the show I did with Mina and DJ not the kind of safety corner nickel hybrid older player. He might have some medical issues. He slid down the board a little bit too. Hasn't been taken either.

01:00:18
Speaker 3: What is the most important part of the combine in Indianapolis, Greg, the medicals, Yes, and I think that when an entire league collectively downgrade slash, I think rejects is a little too harsh, But at least passes on you over three rounds with some team's having multiple picks, that tells me that the medicals probably weren't very good or they're concerning oh yeah, the.

01:00:43
Speaker 1: Enormous, enormous risk. And there's a belief with McCoy that his other need is gonna another knee that he didn't have the torn acl is gonna need like serious surgery, and that just scares you away.

01:00:55
Speaker 3: That's the issue, is that, And that happens a lot.

01:00:57
Speaker 2: When you tear one, sometimes you tear the other because usually I think the theory is is that when you rehab, that need becomes stronger and then the other one's weaker, and that's what ends up happening. And I think that's why you see players like that who didn't play football the next year and kind of prove that that's not a risk.

01:01:13
Speaker 3: They end up sliding.

01:01:14
Speaker 2: Because the tape from twenty twenty four is so good and his pro day looked good too, so that's got.

01:01:19
Speaker 6: To be it.

01:01:19
Speaker 1: You know what, pick I forgot about one of my favorites of the very night because of the entire night, because one of my favorite players of the whole night, and it felt like he really fell far. Although now that I look at it, it was just that a lot of linebackers went in quick succession, because you know, Rodriguez went, you know, fairly, Oh, I know where we're going, mid second round, and about twelve picks later, CJ. Allen from Georgia goes to the Colts and I love me some CJ. Allen I did check her. You know, there could have been some medical concern for him. I did hear that maybe some teams, you know secondhand here, like you know, there was concern he might not have been on every single boy. But he lands with the Colts. And in the end, when you have players that you really appreciate, you just hope even if they're not in the right spot. Yeah, in the first round, I wanted him go to Minnesota and Brian Flores that they land with the right team, lou An Arumo and that Colts defense is perfect. He's kind of the same build, but more athletic than a Jermaine Pratt, and I could see him racking up like twenty tackles and people being like, why did CJ. Allen fall to the second round. I like CJL and think that's a good pick for the Colts.

01:02:29
Speaker 2: I love it when teams draft players based on history, like do we just like this style of player? And when he went to Indianapolis, it was like, that makes all the sense in the world for everything every reason that you just listed. And it also came two picks after Jake Golday went to Minnesota, which I think also fits exactly what they want at linebackers. So you love it when the fits make sense.

01:02:49
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was really you know, going into it, we thought it was going to be a really strong linebacker class. We have not seen linebackers go off the board like this in a long time. Anthony Hill uh went in what the second round to the Titans as well, and then Golde and Rodriguez and Trotter, like there there were players flying off the board. They're back and uh and who did we talk about? Jayshon uh over to the Cowboys as well was a fun pick. As we're wrapping up here, I sometimes learned some things on this on the day after, you know, the first round. So we're just gonna circle back to just a couple little stories that I wanted to put a button on before we go from day one. And we'd never got to hear Sean McVay on our last show talk about Ty Simpson and how weird his press conference was. We were taping as the press conference was going on. Let's listen to just a little of Sean McVay answering questions about Ty Simpson.

01:03:49
Speaker 5: You have a conversation with Matthew about this, Yeah, kind of help I'll keep that between us.

01:03:58
Speaker 3: Matthews, He's gonna compete with.

01:04:01
Speaker 1: Sets, just very defensive. There another question when they asked about what made you excite about ty Simpson. He starts answering the question and then he immediately pivots to make you know, Matthew Stafford is our quarterback. He's our guy. And everyone took this to mean that like Sean McVay was somehow not in favor of this pick, that he was upset about a Ty Simpson pick. And to that, I just want to point out, if you guys think that a quarterback being taken by the Los Angeles Rams not only has the okay of Sean McVay, but has like full throated enthusiasm, and I would suspect he being the person behind the pick, like more than any other person. What kind of organization do you think they're running. Sean McVay is the most important person in the organization, and he's especially the most important person in the organization when it comes to the first round picks and developing quarterbacks and quarterbacks like that's gonna be his guy. And then we see any piano article from Jeremy Fowler about this and a couple other people hinting about this, and they believed it was a sensitivity to Matthew Stafford and not making him mad. And you gotta be worried a little bit about like how mad is Matthew Stafford about this? He said, Matthew Stafford was great about it and had a conversation. I would not expect McVeigh to tell us what that conversation was really like, if I'm Matthew Stafford, I'm probably not very fired up about this whole thing. And this does make me wonder why even bring this into it? And my last thing I know I'm ranting here now you're fine, is that how did Sean McVeigh get in trouble with the whole last quarterback change over? And when he said he learned a lot from it and he made big mistakes, it was by not being forthright and being himself and like being honest with the quarterbacks. And I'm sure like his conversation with Matthew Saffort, that was him being honest. But I think he put himself in a situation in this press conference where he almost had to pretend that he was somehow mad not disrespecting Matthew Stafford. This is like that bad juju. That's what the ESPN article was saying, and that's what many of the reports like. He was almost trying to overcompensate by saying, you know, not being too excited about Simpson, and it just came out funny, like he's not a good actor and just just be yourself, bro, just be you know.

01:06:19
Speaker 2: Yeah, we all have our strengths and weaknesses. Right, But like, in no rational world should Matthew Stafford be surprised that they took a quarterback at some point now a first rounder?

01:06:33
Speaker 3: Okay, little bit.

01:06:34
Speaker 2: You obviously get the Aaron Rodgers Jordan Love comparison, right, but this is a quarterback in Matthew Stafford, who yes, is coming off of an NFL MVP season phenomenal year, obviously still has plenty left in the tank. But as also kind of held the Rams hostage with will I will and I continue playing over the last couple of years, whether it's gonna go to the Raiders or play at all. Now, he didn't do it this year because he immediately said right after he got the MVP that he would be back in that contract.

01:07:00
Speaker 1: Though it doesn't make me wonder it's kind of interesting.

01:07:03
Speaker 2: It's still got to play the contract game, right, So of course the Rams are going to consider an option for when he's done, because he's on the back nine.

01:07:11
Speaker 1: The end is near.

01:07:12
Speaker 3: It's not tomorrow, but it's closer than you know, the average quarterback.

01:07:16
Speaker 1: Of course, they didn't have to reach for a quarterback at thirteenth Overall, I I get why he.

01:07:22
Speaker 3: I agree it's a reach, but maybe they I mean, maybe there's a.

01:07:24
Speaker 1: Situation situation going on though, because look, he did strongly consider leaving last year. Yeah, and they've been so close and there's frustration just that they didn't get over the top. I'm sure. But here's what I believe in that that McVeigh was absolutely truthful about, Like if if Matthew Savorge wants to keep playing and is playing at a high he didn't say, and it is playing at a high level. But I'll add that in, like, of course he's going to still be the Rams quarterback. It just it just added maybe a little added level of tension you didn't need.

01:07:56
Speaker 3: When that they didn't draft somebody.

01:08:00
Speaker 1: Yeah, here's who you could have drafted, Venga Yuane or Casey Concepcion. I would like to see him playing. There was there was a quote that the ESPN article ended with, and here was what it said. It said to the effect of, well, if ty Simpson doesn't even play in his rookie contract, that's a win for the Rams because of what that would mean. And I'm thinking that is the most galaxy brain thinking, you're in a whole different galaxy. They also said it was a luxury pick because they can't know that was the thirteenth overall pick of the draft.

01:08:33
Speaker 3: You only have what if it was like thirty one? What if what if it was thirty What if that pick was thirty.

01:08:37
Speaker 1: Feel better about it? I'd feel better they got they.

01:08:39
Speaker 3: There's there's your answer.

01:08:41
Speaker 1: I feel a little better the good players on the board. It was really funny. John Lynch was asked about it. Actually, I won't preface it too much. Let's listen to, uh the Ty Simpson conversation going all the way up to San Francisco.

01:08:54
Speaker 2: Guys, I know you're focused on your pick, but at thirteen, your reaction to the Rams signing a guy that isn't going to immediately impact them next.

01:09:01
Speaker 7: Year, Well, I think you know, first of all, I think another team in our division, I mean, they got a player who is going to impact and talking about Jeremy Love of fantastic player.

01:09:13
Speaker 1: I just loved, like, right when the ty Simpson questions started happening, for a second, he was unguarded and he just had John Lynch had a big smile, just like, oh those rams. They kind of stepped into it. This is interesting. And then he immediately pivots to Jeremiah Love and not didn't want to give an answer. Our trusty producer, by the way, Eric Roberts tells me. Ty Simpson was asked at his press conference on Friday whether he's heard from Matthew Stafford. No, he hasn't heard from Matthew Stafford the first.

01:09:44
Speaker 3: It was like sixteen hours.

01:09:46
Speaker 1: Let it breathe. I mean he heard from some other some other teammates. I think it was Quentin Lake was was the one who reached out. But his his his teammate, Matthew Stafford's wife Kelly texted him on Instagram and welcome and tept old man hit her up.

01:10:02
Speaker 3: I don't know how to take that. I guess that's the bridge between the two for now.

01:10:10
Speaker 1: Makai Lemon, should we talk about that crazy clip of him being on the phone. The fact that this is all captured on camera. I think we have the clip from Good Morning Football. I'm throwing this past blind. Let's see if to know look complete.

01:10:26
Speaker 3: Here's what it looked like from the player's point of view before we discuss.

01:10:38
Speaker 1: Host. Hey, Philly really just treated you. This treated for.

01:10:55
Speaker 7: A time.

01:10:56
Speaker 1: Jaff of it. Two phones, two phones, one for Howie, one for the agent. Runs over while he's literally talking to Pittsburgh and and says, Billy's taking you right now. Man, that is going to be a moment that that's never going to be forgotten. And I really, I really like the Steelers picks Max Iannitcher, and I think he's got a really high ceiling. Maybe even as a player higher than Lemon, you might get like a really real deal left tackle. But it's just going to be fascinating. It's obviously not what the Pittsburgh Steelers wanted to do. We talked about that a little earlier. Let's listen to Mansor Delanne. I thought him talking a little bit of smack to the Washington Commanders of all team. He is the new Kansas City Chiefs number six overall pick cornerback, and he refers to the Commander's GM Adam Peters.

01:11:47
Speaker 8: In this club, I firmly believe defense wins championships, especially let alone what's on the other side of the ball with our team and really just now fighting for another chance to go back and compete. But you know, Missius Peter's a little too late, but you know that they they made a great decision coming up and getting the dog.

01:12:09
Speaker 1: That's interesting. The thought was, you know when they traded up Kansas City that they were maybe preventing him to go to New Orleans. And maybe that was true, like local product, they need a cornerback, but I didn't think that they were going Mansor Delane. And then there there was some reporting and really it sounds like more from Delaine himself. He had an idea that Washington was maybe gonna go Mansor Delaine at seven overall, and instead Kansas City goes up and gets a guy that Steve Spagnolo absolutely loves. I just love these little day after Yeah, shuck. There's one more I'm just gonna add with this, which is that Brett Veach actually indicated that once Carnel Tate came off the board, we knew Delane was our guy, which is really interesting that more or less said Tate. I think was they would have been deciding between those two. But that kind of tells me Tate was probably their pick, but that they really wanted one of those two guys to fall to them, and once one was gone, they were like, we need to go up to get the other, which is just it's interesting to think about the paths not taken.

01:13:14
Speaker 3: In the draft.

01:13:15
Speaker 2: I think that there was a near consensus on where Tate landed on a lot of boards, and the fact that Tennessee took him at four was earlier than most expected, and I think it made a lot of teams call it audible, and that was one of them. But how about delayane interesting time for a victory lap?

01:13:30
Speaker 3: Huh? I mean, well why not? You know he came, I took me at six. Y'all thought I was going at nine. Turns out I was gonna go at seven. I'm a six overall pick. Now.

01:13:40
Speaker 1: I like the way he carries himself on and off.

01:13:43
Speaker 3: Got to be confident.

01:13:44
Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to. Speaking of confident, how about ruben Bain entering the arena that was the draft. That was like a w w E moment from him on Thursday night, you're watching us on YouTube. Him approaching the stage just completely walks by the camera where where he's gonna have his hat, all business, picks it up, keeps it moving, and then just kind of like the shaking his arms out as he gets up there, and then was very emotional. I'm invested in this young man, Ruben Bain.

01:14:21
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I am also a huge fan of him not stopping at the mirror, the one way mirror with the camera behind it. And look, I understand product placement everything else, it's all good for the experience, but him just taking it and continuing on.

01:14:33
Speaker 3: That's the type of conviction I went out of my new edge.

01:14:35
Speaker 1: Rusher and then finally it just going all the way back to the beginning. I missed this the first time around. I just needed to make sure every NFL Daily listener knew that this was for Nando Mendoz's ring tone as he got the call to be the first overall pick.

01:14:58
Speaker 3: How you doing more and more? Which is tech? I appreciate you going.

01:15:06
Speaker 1: I'd be that that is the most Fernando Mendoza Looney Tunes ass bringingtone you ever want? I love it? No, I mean that's or like a nine year old like I loved it. He did something with the NFL where his brother was a talk show host for him, he's an aspiring broadcaster. Check out check out his brother's Instagram show, I Am Loving the Wholesome Fernando Mendoza Era and he did a press confront on Friday. Look in the middle of the off season. That would that would have been worthy of a whole news topic. But look, we had more to get to, a lot of picks. There's a lot more to come. Thank you Shooky for helping out with our day to draft.

01:15:50
Speaker 3: Happy to be here. It's after midnight, but I'm happy to be here.

01:15:53
Speaker 2: Baby.

01:15:53
Speaker 3: It was fun.

01:15:56
Speaker 1: We move on to day three. Let's get out of here. We will be doing a show after day three. We want to get everything in order, and then on Sunday we're gonna have a kind of a different timing of a show. Podcasts will go up on Sunday afternoon evening with our winners and losers from the entire draft. That's gonna be me and Ali Connolly. Then around the AFC and NFC next week. I cannot wait.