Best of the Bus: Jelly Roll Opens Up About His Health & Pressures Of Success

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Speaker 1: On this episode of Best of the Bus, fan favorite certified legend jelly Roll is back.

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Speaker 2: With the boys per usual.

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Speaker 1: It's a great mix of chaos, laughs, and some real talk. Jelly recaps his wild ride of winning awards, his appearance on American Idol and The Voice, and even his even his testifying before Congress about the drug crisis in America. We get to do his personal journey, journey towards better health, his passion for giving back to Nashville's youth, and his dream of playing the final show in Nissan Stadium. This one's all over the map, but that is in the best way. Tap in, enjoy the ride, Big hugs, tiny kisses.

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Speaker 3: Google jelly Roll right now because I'm off the internet.

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Speaker 4: We'll talk about it. Yeah, which is just start. But that's but like it's a headline. Now you google jelly roll and hit the news button. It's like rolling Stone headline. Jelly Roll only wears socks once says big people can't have stinky feet. This is on people. This is on people.

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Speaker 2: People. Yeah, so it's like just from you making that comment, it's.

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Speaker 4: Like you're instantly a news with us.

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Speaker 2: Two times.

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Speaker 4: And I didn't want to have stinky feet. I hope y'all are rolling. Yeah, I just didn't want to have steaky feet.

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Speaker 5: What people are treating like, oh you onlybody's one para sos like and you know what, it was an honest moment for me.

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Speaker 4: It was My answer was they said, what's the last thing you bought on Amazon? I said, actually, this is also my most frivolous habit I have. I was like, I buy socks. That was my most recent Amazon purchase. I always buy new socks. I was like, I only wear socks. Wants no, thank you. I'm scared of those. Dude. Everybody I know who does addicted to them.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like behavior kids.

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Speaker 4: My brother choose them like you. That is insane to me. He choose them like their fucking bubble gum.

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Speaker 2: Though. Yeah, the boy says, if he's not eating or sleeping, they're in. That's even when I work out.

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Speaker 1: If I get a workout in, I got two and a halfway through the workout, I'll switch them out.

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Speaker 4: I would worry about swallowing water, sucking. We ever sucked one in the windpipe, whoa, oh.

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Speaker 2: Suckling twice and where is he going?

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Speaker 5: We have Kirk Cousins on and he said that Taylor honekey, he loves him, He's to him. He'll get up and take a piss in the middle night. And as he goes and takes a pistol, throw one in.

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Speaker 2: Dude, I haven't got there yet, Kurt.

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Speaker 4: That episode was fine, by the way, Kurt. Yeah. And I got to meet him. He was with Uh, he was, he was. He was our boy kittle of all places, Augusta. Really, I was at the Masters and I'm like, there's no way I'll see anybody I know here for sure, And I look up and of all motherfuckers, it's George Kettley Kirk Cousins.

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Speaker 1: Well, I bet there was so many fifty year old white people watching you up by going, let anybody.

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Speaker 4: Know wearing a denim jacket, yeah, uh, blue jeans, boots. I'm out there dressed like I was.

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Speaker 2: Dude, don't they have a don't they have like a dress code there? Yeah?

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Speaker 4: And they said no, for you had a trick. So they posted a picture of leon Bridge the year before and Leon Bridge is just standing at a man corner and like linen and loafers, and I'm like, if he can wear linen and loafers. I can wear denim and leather. I was like, you know what I mean. So I just showed up dressed like jelly roll.

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Speaker 2: All.

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Speaker 4: Let me tell you what happened. I got to tell this story ever. Want to so bad? I said, can I take the Leon Bridges picture? They're like, of course, We'll take you to a man corner and let you take the picture and we'll send it to you and we'll post it from the masters. I'm like, this is crazy. They're going to post me from the masters. They wouldn't post the picture because I have my fucking ball cap on backwards, no ship tats everywhere, and trust me with the picture. Really no, it's the backwards hat's what did it do?

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Speaker 2: Next? Next thing? Dude magazine Jilly will in a lawsuit.

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Speaker 5: And that's crazy. Dude's got tats on his face and everything. That's the backwards hat.

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Speaker 4: And my fault. I respect the game and I should have turned my hat around, but I wasn't. I wasn't thinking. And what's even worse is as soon as I walked off, some guy said you should have turned your hat around. I was like, man, I don't give a fuck what I do. I kind of joked back like haha, dude was.

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Speaker 1: Like, okay, some guy trying to warn you.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, some guy was trying to give me game, and I thought we were just kind of jazzed. I don't worry, man, let me smoke.

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Speaker 1: We dude, the whole that's like the golf, the uppittiness of the golf. That is for me, what turns me off to the game. The line that's where I draw the line is like I don't like dress codes. I don't like the call you have to wear color shirt tucked in, can't wear a backwards hat. That's why I'm like, what are we trying to prove here? And that's what kind of turned me off for for so long now.

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Speaker 4: I just especially when you hang out with pro golfers and their degenerates are like us, Like you know, John Daly's like me, And Ernest's dad.

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Speaker 5: Is so funny when you see him go through the timeline like it's always something just absolutely and his son.

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Speaker 1: He's heard the story of when he started don't I'm gonna I'll butcher the story. But he was basically like a ninth reserve guy for this major. I don't know if it was the Masters or what he ends up getting a call, wakes up hungover, doesn't warm up at all. It's zero warm up time. Anything, ends up wanting the thing. That's like the like the legend of John Daily start who ship Yes rock.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I mean there's probably some major details I'm missing in that, but it was that's that's the Yeah, it's the back of the book.

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Speaker 4: But Dad will get on here anytime. I'll get on here. John will come on here and talk ship. He's the dude.

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Speaker 2: Dude, he rolled up heart, he did a music video.

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Speaker 4: How about this. I'll give y'all my word. I will call John Daily today tell.

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Speaker 2: Them that's all.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he's like my I call him Dad for real. He's the sweetest dude. He uh he's I mean he sent me the coolest Christmas gift I even got this year. It was a painting and it was like I think, I don't know if he knows this or not, but I don't like most artists. I don't like stuff that says jelly roll and I won't wear a jelly Roll shirt, you know what I mean, or stuff like that, or like a picture of myself I want hang pictures of So this painting is like my lyrics encapsulated in different picture styles, so it's like the Skull, but a different style of the skull that always rock with. This has all these cool lyrics spray painted in the background and like live animations. I've seen y'all a picture, dude, it's super coold, just awful. Get I got y'all though. Man, I don't know if anybody else gets excited to come back on here as I do. I just looked at you. I know the bus.

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Speaker 2: If I get silent for a long time, just sitting and trying to just catch up, I.

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Speaker 4: Just get excited.

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Speaker 6: Man.

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Speaker 4: It just reminds me of we've had a lot of good times and the fact that we've stayed friends and we talked. But the cool thing I love about coming back here is that we don't never get to talk like this, Like this is like hours, like we'll catch up. They just checking in or shoot the voice memos and the videos of the text. But this is cool.

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 4: I've cried on this bus. I've been hung over on this bus. I've shipped myself on this Yeah. I've had some really wild me and my wife went viral on this.

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Speaker 2: It's been over emotion and funny ship.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, ude, it's crazy to see like your last year and we were just talking about right when you got on about people talking about you don't wear socks once a couple of years ago. No one gives a shit about how many socks you were wearing.

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Speaker 5: It'd be like us trying to clip that story and not. You know, you might get tracks, you might not. You probably will just because of social media of a jelly roll, but you know, I think it's gonna be some negative headline.

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Speaker 2: No, it's crazy.

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Speaker 1: It's got to be like an insane thing like you. I mean, you're you do really well, like sitting back and being appreciative of all this stuff. But bro, it's got insane.

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Speaker 4: Yeah man, it's it's cool though, It's like I disconnected from it as soon as it started happening. I was like, oh, I know how to deal with this. I immediately got off social media. I was like, but now I consume life in an even wilder way through news, but not like old news, like you know, how like you can get Google alerts for certain names like I'm put in my name, my wife's name, the Tennessee Titans busting anybody, any of our friends, like the homies. So like when like birds on jim Jimmy Kimmel, somebody I see it, you know what I mean? It pops up Burt Christ for Jimmy Kimmel. I'm like, I should go check this out. Which is a wild way to consume life too, you know what I mean. But it's way easier.

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Speaker 5: That's basically what you've transitioned to since you get away from social media.

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Speaker 2: For sure.

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Speaker 4: And I don't spend no time scrolling or doing it. And here's the coolest part, y'all, I'm creating more content right now than I've ever created. I'm fixing the flood content Like I was an independent artist when y'all met me, how I was uploading fifty times a year on YouTube. I'm fixing to y'all are watched.

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Speaker 2: Why is that?

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Speaker 4: Because now I'm not doing this for eight hours a day, yeah, six hours a day. Every time I have an extra second, I'm actually thinking about stuff now, yeah you know what I mean. Like I'm actually at present when a camera's on me, you know what I mean. I'm not looking for a moment to go checking. So I spent more time looking what was happening on social media than using it as a tool to promote what I was trying to do right.

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Speaker 2: How free has that been, that process of change?

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Speaker 4: It's been great, man. Yeah, it's been like I've never been more aware of where I'm at. I've never been more present. Everywhere I'm at is that's where I am, and that hasn't been the case for a long time. I've been in really cool moments, dude. It was like, I think it was the ACMs last year. I'm sitting behind Jason al Dean. It's the first time I realized I had a real problem. I was at the ACMs and just like, habit, We'll just pull my phone out and just kept getting lost in my phone. I'm at an award show sitting next to a list celebrities. What the fuck is happening on TikTok That's going to be so cool to me.

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Speaker 2: TikTok wants to know about it?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, for sure. It's like this is the tiktoks are coming from here. I'm just watching you know what I'm saying. It was just like, yo, this is right. Then I was like, this is getting sick.

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Speaker 2: You did the transition?

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Speaker 1: Was there like a piece of withdrawal At first, when you weren't scrolling, you kind of felt you, I'm a little fucking board right now for sure?

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Speaker 4: Well you still you still I still reach for my pocket a bunch, you know what I mean. It's not even I don't even carry you know, I don't even carry the phone. So it's just I live in a whole different place. Dog, I'm in a great place.

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Speaker 5: Do you feel like they're just like because you we were talking about started with talking about that Socks headline, like how massive like in where there can be in a negative lot of whatever. Do you feel like there's more expectation on you now when you are creating, when you are getting in these environments. That's a great question, Will because I would assume you have to kind of battle with that, especially like you try to be real conscious of it. But there's gotta be times like you're you've been just doing this, like you say, we swap stories and keep up with each other because everybody's busy, but you've just been doing this. So when you're trying to stay intentional, do you find out difficult at times? Or do you feel like there's that expectation?

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Speaker 4: I think, man, I'm always vulnerable in here. I wouldn't say this in many places where I feel that the most will is in the studio. I'm in a weird place where I've released three hundred songs in my career. I've had success. I'm close to celebrating my fourth number one on country radio, my fifth number one on radio. I've had international songs. I mean, I've checked all the boxes of things that I never thought I would do. Grammy nominations, awards. But I'm technically in the world world's eyes working on my sophomore album. And there's this age old cliche called the sophomore slump.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, happens in sports too, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 4: So it's like I'm I'm feeling it when I'm writing songs like I want to I want to send y'all some stuff to listen to, Like I'm fixing. To get to the point where I'm fixing it, just start leaning on my friends and relying on honesty. Because when you write a hundred and something songs for an album, because you're that into it, they start all sounding the same. You don't know which one is the better one of the two that sound alike. And now you're in this place where you've got one hundred songs. I could have the best song of my career. I don't even really know it right now because they're all just like a big puddle of just noise to me almost. So it's a way, it's a scary place to be.

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Speaker 2: I'm petrified in the world of like writing songs and stuff.

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Speaker 4: I mean that, like I'm genuinely petrified.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's it's a scary place to be because you've had all the success, and there's always something in the back of your head when you are having a lot of success of.

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Speaker 2: Like when's it gonna end? Like when's the fall? When? When is you know that fear creeps up in the back over socks?

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Speaker 4: Yeah it is.

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Speaker 1: We we know, Like I mean, how many people do we know like lasted generation after generation of generation like five people in the music industry, and so you have to like there's always a piece of you that's like when's it? When's my time up? When's my time coming? And then once your time comes, like when is my time upright? And so it's a it's a very legitimate fear to have, like when you're writing this music, obviously, like Ernest is a dude that always like he's like.

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Speaker 2: With you, you.

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Speaker 1: Roll a party a lot, Morgan. Those types of dudes, like how much are you leaning on them to be able to zoom out a little bit, because we even with busting, like, we get in the situations where we're so zoomed into what we're trying to do that we're kind of missing the right thing to do at the time.

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Speaker 7: You know exactly what I was thinking about said that.

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Speaker 4: I remember we only time I've ever seen y'all just miss and that was me as well.

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Speaker 2: We saw.

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Speaker 1: And it was like, what was it January or right right before January? Was like, hey, I think you know Quicker City Nighthawks, tip of the Cat, back to the like our Ridge original intro this that, and like he's like going through and he's like this seems like a really good idea and I have the time like it's all Wilson.

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Speaker 2: I was like, Yeah, that sounds dope, that sounds cool. I mean it took to get your mind around it.

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Speaker 6: It took me.

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Speaker 5: And I was like I've done it a couple of times, but it just we've never actually done it or pursued somebody writing us something. And there's a style like have you ever seen Club. Yeah, he's kind of got like a cliffhanger at the beginning and this undertone of Nipsy and then it goes into the Nipsey Hustle song. And I always think it's like they have that one that grabs you in the first ten to fifteen seconds of a clip. So I was trying to think, like the song that we have with intro, you don't necessarily have like an underlying tone where you can do that. So it's like, how can we find a song? And it's like, I've always been obsessed with this. What was it some of Adam's blues by Quaker City Night, Yeah, And I was like, man, this could sound dope.

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Speaker 2: We tried it. You know, we're back.

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Speaker 4: I'll tell you this. I'll give you some game. You ready for it? And this is something you just so much. Oldhead taught me I would be paid the cars for a living, right, And he said, you're always one stroke away from either polishing it to a pearl or polishing the paint off, like one wipe away. It's that close, you know what I mean. Yeah, sometimes you just gotta go, Man, that motherfucker is a pearl right now. Message and good friends.

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Speaker 5: That we talk about, being like, you should have just shot a message to that even I mean we were getting double.

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Speaker 4: I feel like you have missed it. The comments were putting out the best content ever, and all you could see in the comments was bring back you.

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Speaker 2: Know at his house sitting there petting is dog.

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Speaker 1: Going yeah, yeah, yeah, he's all those comments just yeah the whole time, bring back the intro. But yeah, who So of those guys that we were talking about, and when were in your sophomore album, who are.

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Speaker 2: We talking to?

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Speaker 1: Like are you like giving it to them? Being like, please tell me where I'm sucking up?

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Speaker 4: Ernest, I brought what whatever? The phase of writing, Ernest is always the dude to dominate. He's yeah, he's got to call the the dominator.

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Speaker 2: What you say, I don't know. I thought I said the nominated dominated?

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Speaker 4: Are you? I will?

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Speaker 2: We're on the magic school bus all right now?

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Speaker 4: No, dude, I'll just shoot it to earn and ask and I'll shoot them and shoot snippets to friends. I'll shoot you also. I'm just kind of hit people that are honest. My wife's man, I'm scared to play her song if you ask her. I've had two hits. Ever, you know.

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Speaker 5: How many hits out there that never made it, never made it out there because Bunny was like, this is garbage.

00:15:39
Speaker 4: How excited for the Beer Olympics? Yeah?

00:15:41
Speaker 2: Fired up?

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Speaker 4: Depends what are we depending on I.

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Speaker 2: Heard there's some scuttle butt. I heard a rumor that logistically, Jolly Roll might not be able to make it.

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Speaker 4: We're doing it for sure. I've already figured that out. I'm doing Kimmel the same day, so I'm flying right there. We're just doing an A and b rig There.

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Speaker 2: We go, there, we have it.

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Speaker 4: This is.

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Speaker 2: It was done, I know, but I thought so too.

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Speaker 1: But you know how it is when management gets involved and then there's a third party. Well we can tell people now, yeah, yeah, yeah, We're doing Beer Olympics at Red Rock in Las Vegas. Beer game, serious beer game. The way went no, don't We've hinted no, this is great for you to be.

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Speaker 4: On the way.

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Speaker 1: Announced it and there's been a lot of people coming and going, dude. We started in February, locking cats in, put it on your calendar, and we've had people drop out. It's been it's been a bummer. So I get a call last week and I'm talking back and forth, and somebody Red Rock is like, yeah, Jelly's on the fifty yard line right now.

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Speaker 2: And I was like, whoa, Because we talked a little bit ago.

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Speaker 1: You say something like the ten and you you we've had the conversation. So I'm like, oh, this is for sure happening. They say, logistically, he's just seen if he can make it happen. But and then you just you just assume Red Rock management. They start talking and every few days, every few days, tailors usually hit me with like, here you see it.

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Speaker 2: I have some some more bad. It's just like I just put the bull.

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Speaker 4: In our head.

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Speaker 2: And he's like Jelly roll and I was just.

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Speaker 4: Like, no, no, no, let's figure it out. We got we're doing. We're doing Kimmel that day, I think is what it's happening, And we're just figuring out a way to knock out two.

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Speaker 1: Birds because it is it's gonna be incredible, like the event, all the stuff going into it, the shake cover, the sponsors.

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Speaker 4: What's probably happening is on our end inside baseball, and this is how we talk on the phone. Y'all get to see how we talk to each other. If I had to guess they just haven't got back for them. They're just not getting back to him quick enough, like Red Rocks probably wants it in a certain timeline, and the way my people are probably looking at it sadly we have so much ship coming up, or probably like.

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Speaker 2: Yo, chill, we'll be there for sure, you know what I mean, like.

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Speaker 4: Dudes coming, you know what I mean. That's what my guess is right now that they're more just worried that, you.

00:17:49
Speaker 2: Know, and your team sticking to the script too.

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Speaker 5: It's like if they're saying this is nothing on our script, like maybe this in conversation.

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Speaker 4: As soon as I hitaid, what way do y'all want to do it? And y'all told me I hit him that's how we're doing.

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Speaker 1: We did have a lengthy conversation. So for everybody who doesn't know the text message group chat, you hit us up and you're like, you want to do a three hundred person like private show or do you want to do like an actual public show? Will was thinking private. I was thinking public. And the reason why I was sak in public is dude, beer Olympics. I mean, you saw us last year. No one's going to be hearing your music we're all going to black out anyway, so to have other people go and enjoy it, I was thinking it was a nice gesture to be amazing, but at the same time, like, I'm not gonna remember shit.

00:18:28
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be like, hey, how did Jelly.

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Speaker 4: Do last night?

00:18:30
Speaker 2: That was what did it? Awesome?

00:18:32
Speaker 1: And then we sent it to the boys and it was a unanimous publicimous public. So that being said, ladies and gentlemen. June twenty fifth, Tuesday at Red Rock One night only, the King himself Jilly Will will be playing a concert.

00:18:44
Speaker 2: Let's fuck you boss for that boys, Yes, but just.

00:18:48
Speaker 5: To prepare everybody all of the beer games content that will be shot that they won't be coming out until I think in August.

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Speaker 2: It's gonna get a lot of editing done and everything else is how much that's blown up, but not near as much as what we want to talk about. You, bro, you have been doing every time. I feel like you're never home.

00:19:07
Speaker 4: I was going three hundred days last year.

00:19:09
Speaker 2: Really, what's happened in the last year, just chasing the record?

00:19:18
Speaker 4: I dropped the album.

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Speaker 5: Right right, but I'm saying, like, what, like, what are the cool new things that you've been doing in the last year because Jack's like, Hey, what do we want to talk to Jelly about. I'm like, man, I don't know if I've been able to just I see. It's like, you come across my screen. You're giving some Southern Baptist church speech. Every time I bring up X.

00:19:34
Speaker 1: You're it's amazing talking about drugs. You're on American Idol, You're on the Voice, You're on every Today's show ever, Tonight's show ever. Should I'm supposed you haven't hosted SNL yet.

00:19:46
Speaker 4: Yes, God, man, you.

00:19:48
Speaker 2: Need to host SNL. That would be nasty.

00:19:50
Speaker 4: ILL tell you what. I'm free this follow.

00:19:56
Speaker 2: But you've you've really been fucking doing it all.

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Speaker 5: It's cool you're saying that on Learn you know about all the different things he's been It's like hard to.

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Speaker 1: This man was in front of people who make loss yang I am an ex drug dealer telling you this is a problem. And it's eight ten minutes long. Yeah, and he is articulate saying this thing And how much did you prepare for that?

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Speaker 4: I really did? Did I really did? I'm not gonna lie ass shot from the hip. I'll tell you. The coolest part of that story is that my sister went to college. She's the smartest one in our family by a country mile. But we've never found a point of connection to be able to work together on anything. And I called her and said, I got a job for us. She said what I said, I'm pretty well spoken, you're real smart. Why don't you get me some logistics and some some peer reviewed facts here and then we'll build a case. And I got to put together a speech to present the Congress, and me and her sat down and cook that up together.

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Speaker 2: No, that is awesome.

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Speaker 4: I was like, I'll figure out the analogies. You just give me the statistics and then I'll write it up. And man, I was in my My wife thought it was. She picked on me a little bit about it in a sweet way. How she does She said, you so cute. I was up my sheets of paper, reading them like I was reading a script, you know, practicing the night before, because dude, this was serious. I was going in front of the United States Coress. I took it serious. Everyone's gonna see it.

00:21:13
Speaker 1: It's not just something some no disrespect from random person walking up and saying, hey, we got to change this law. Like you're a super influential person for sure. How much prep when that phone call happened to your sister? How far was the congress meeting away?

00:21:26
Speaker 4: Three weeks but we took about three weeks to really start coming together.

00:21:30
Speaker 2: I feel like that's even a short amount of time. How nervous were you?

00:21:32
Speaker 4: Extremely? Yes, very more nervous th so liquid man. First of all, it was in a courthouse. They'll say it's not a courthouse, but I've been to a courthouse. This is a courthouse, you know, you know what I mean. And then it's a courtroom. They said it's not a courtroom, but it's a courtroom. I've been to a courtroom. It's set just like a courtroom. And I didn't think about this until I was sitting there. But it's already designed for you to feel less right. And I'm sure it's designed that way on purpose, because all the congressmen are sitting up and looking down at you, so like you're peering up, and there's just I didn't think about it, but psychologically you're Inentually I'm not looking at you eye to eye. There's a there's a separation between me and you, you know what I mean. There's a clear thing that you're here and I'm here, and that that made me more nervous than I anticipated, because that felt like a judge. Judges sit up too, you know what I'm saying. I was like, man, I'm in court right now, like but it was. And I hope that they were going to go the other way because I look at the guy to the left of me from the FOP, great guy for turn to order police. I go, pardon me, sir, have you done this before? He's like, oh yeah, all the time. The next guy next to him was a D, a federal DA. So you do this, He's like all the time, you know, we come speak here, you know, probably probably once every other week. And I was like, oh, great, well one of these guys go first. And I kind of know what i'm doing here, you know what I'm saying. I'll get I'll get to see a right, I don't know what i'm doing, you know what I mean. And of course I'm in the headspace that I'm constantly in, right, So I'm in there and I'm like, maybe one of these guys school bus, right, I'm like, maybe one of these guys will show me the fucking way, you know what I mean? And now they were like, all right, mister d Ford, I'm sure you've never done this. I was like, never, never thought I'd do it. Go ahead for a sacrifice, Get out there you go.

00:23:16
Speaker 5: The reaction of that speech was also like a very viral thing. How coming out of that did you You probably didn't expect that or anticipate that, nor care about it. But seeing that it blew up the way it did, I bet that that had to feel good, knowing that you are pushing to make a wave like that.

00:23:33
Speaker 4: It did. It felt, really it felt. I had a moment where I was sitting there and I looked down at that camera and I seen the screen and I seen myself, and I was like, oh, this picture is gonna be everywhere the rest of my life. Like I'm on se SPAN right now. I didn't know I was going to, you know what I mean. I'm like, I'm on public television, free, free television. O G. Like everybody can get everybody that anywhere they could watch me. I'm getting watched in prison right now. Yeah, you know what I mean? Like I am on c SPAN and uh. I think also it goes like how the award speeches worked for me. There's a true moment where this is just all unreal to me. And I take every one of those moments extremely serious, like way, like not serious an aspect like I don't prep for award speeches, but like I take it serious. When I'm walking up there, I'm praying right then quietly, God, this is the last time that I ever win one of these, and I get to address millions of people watching me. I'm in front of my peers. I am elated to be here. By the way, it's insane to me that artists win awards and they walk up there like, fuck, I hate I had to come out tonight, you know what I mean? You know what I mean, Like they walk up there like my feet hurt, you know what I mean. It's like I hadn't touched the ground the night. Dude, I'm four hundred and fifty pounds and I'm fucking you know what I mean. It's like, you know, it's and I just want to take those moments serious. And the con this one was even more serious because there was a side of me and I hope I'll get in trouble for this. Was walked in there a little pissed off, just a little bit, you know, what I mean, just a little chip on my shoulder because I walked up there thinking there's no way that two hundred Americans are dying a day, and that I am the guy that has to come in here and bring attention to it, Like this is a little absurd that it took me, you know what I mean, of all people like it should have never got to this point. So I found myself feeling that emotion too in the moment, and I don't know if you could see it in me, but there was a hint of like, you don't see me that serious that often. Yeah, you know, I'm a serious songwriter. I'm not a serious guy, you know what I mean. Don't take anything I say very serious. But I was fucking see this is me walking in the court. You see it on my face that initial clip. When I first walked in. They had media out there trying to talk to me, and I was first time ever I was kind of rude to media. You see, I'm not even looking at the yeah, And I wasn't trying to be mean. I was just like, hey man, I'm nervous, and I'm gonna go in here and make a fucking point.

00:26:00
Speaker 1: At what point when you were having those feelings and you sat down with this.

00:26:03
Speaker 4: Is crazy that we're watching this with y'all. Dog, I would have never dreamed this when I came on y'alls bus the first time. If I'm just like selling two or three thousand tickets for me, I had made it when I got on this bus the first time. I was like, big as I'll ever be happy about it.

00:26:15
Speaker 1: You know what, I'm your catalog and I'll probably just sell that for a thirty million dollars.

00:26:21
Speaker 4: Yeah, for sure.

00:26:22
Speaker 2: That is just Yeah, it's crazy, bro, And it's crazy the how we met.

00:26:25
Speaker 4: This is so perspective just sitting in here like this, Thank you'all.

00:26:29
Speaker 2: Dude.

00:26:30
Speaker 1: Having a shop was the reason why.

00:26:33
Speaker 4: Because here the first two podcasts every day, the first two podcasts I ever did was a shop and y'all.

00:26:40
Speaker 2: And now you've hit Rogan bro Yeah, baby.

00:26:44
Speaker 4: Effect, Baby, I changed the name. It's not the experience anymore. It's Joe Rogan Effect.

00:26:49
Speaker 2: How fast is that?

00:26:52
Speaker 4: It's immediate? Really, it's immediate. Yeah, it's unreal.

00:26:56
Speaker 2: You've been seeing the Terrence Howard oh Man.

00:26:59
Speaker 4: Listen into the first thirty minutes this morning. It starts like, so, how did you get into acting. And I don't know Joe knew that was the trigger phrase. No, but it's like Joe knew the one sentenced if I'm wondering, if Joe would have said, so, how's your morning, it would have unlocked that. Yeah. But he's like, let me tell you, before I was born.

00:27:23
Speaker 2: It was right beneath the surface.

00:27:24
Speaker 1: And the look key when he's talking, when he starts saying like one times one is two, He's like, because you have a multiplication is a multiple and if you put anything in front of another, one has to get bigger. Yeah, I'm thinking kind of makes sense. Yeah, I felt like I put my calculator Neil gross Tyson, right, that's the scientist. Yeah, he's like telling how Neil's coming at him and all this. But he's talking about Adam separating and there's four edges, but when you put eight bubbles together, I'm just like.

00:27:52
Speaker 4: You know, the crazy.

00:27:53
Speaker 2: He's kind of a genius man. Maybe he's a psychopath. I don't know. I haven't picked aside yet.

00:27:57
Speaker 4: It all came from the dude that played a pimp and hustle and flo That's the part I can't get. Like I watched this dude play a Memphis pimp and my favorite movie. It's the only movie I've ever known.

00:28:06
Speaker 2: Also, the smartest man you've ever met in your entire Yeah, that's insane.

00:28:09
Speaker 4: He's fucking Tyson Neil de grass One.

00:28:11
Speaker 5: That made the biggest impact on me was when he was the divorced father in Big Mama's House. That's like what I think is I think of like an intimidating cat. Yeah, like with Terrence Howard and then also in the Fighting movie with uh Channing Tatum, right.

00:28:26
Speaker 4: You know this is I don't remember this in either one of these films. Now, I just remember Hustling Floats, the only film I've ever remembered him being that.

00:28:34
Speaker 5: He was like the he was like the scary dude that that you were trying to predict. It's called Fighting.

00:28:38
Speaker 4: Yeah.

00:28:38
Speaker 2: I don't think i've even seen this movie.

00:28:40
Speaker 4: I'm getting crucified online right now for people watching this or like you're telling me one Terrence Howur movie.

00:28:47
Speaker 2: I was kind of with you.

00:28:48
Speaker 1: I don't know what this is Big Mamas House. You should have picked up that, you should have picked up a mama.

00:28:53
Speaker 4: I just can't look at him and think of him doing anything but going in my eyes out of seeing some crazy things in the streets, got a couple of girl was working on the track just for me.

00:29:03
Speaker 2: I don't know.

00:29:04
Speaker 4: Yeah, Oh he's an iron man. He was in crash, yo.

00:29:10
Speaker 5: And the thing is what you like find yourself enjoying about that conversation is right wrong whatever, everybody's.

00:29:17
Speaker 2: Gonna argue, picking apart whatever it is, but.

00:29:19
Speaker 5: His enthusiasm talking about you just know that this dude obsesses over this stuff. Sure, so it's like it like pulls you in when he's talking about being naked in his dreams and accessing the future like he's low in hot tup time machine where he can like.

00:29:31
Speaker 2: That's why he's got ninety seven patents you just said.

00:29:34
Speaker 4: They're like, you know what is kind of case. We look up his patents as anybody.

00:29:40
Speaker 2: Then he had a gym bag. He hands Joe a couple and I'm just so curious what's going on in Joe's mind, like as he's holding them, because Joe doesn't like say a word for those first thirty minutes, first thirty minutes, Yeah, and he just at one point, can I just stop it there for a second, Can we.

00:29:53
Speaker 4: Go back a couple of optanes here. No, I'm only thirty minutes in. It was all terance and it was incredible. But I'm sitting in the sign of this morning.

00:30:04
Speaker 5: Yeah, we saw yourself. You got the cold tube, you got the sauna going on. Dude, listen, Gary Breck in your life.

00:30:10
Speaker 4: Gary Breca is like helped me. I dropped those first, like sixty some pounds effortless with him. We just did our blood work, our first ninety day blood work cycle together to see the differences insiling down. Hemoglobin's great, liver's doing great, kidney's doing great, heart strong. I had obviously, being a big guy, I had a spike protein marker in my heart. It was just a little bit showed a lot of inflammation. Big cars, big engine kind of thing. But still not right. I mean it's the effects of obesity, right, that's went down dramatically points a whole point or something point and a half two points in ninety days. Like I've been a pre diabetic as you could imagine, like at a six point two forever as long as I remember, Like how I'm not a full blown diabetic. Mind blowing a little bit, yeah, right, So and it went from six to two like five, nine and three months and that just seems like three points. But that's a that's a consistent ninety day blood marker. It's not like your instant, you know, the prick of what's in your bloodstream? You know that's that's a ninety day I've only had ninety days to tell those point. What is it? A one C? You see what I'm saying like this, I should have just brought my blood work. We could have nerded out about it. I'm so proud of it. What is I'm carry my blood work around like when I was in jail and I carried my paperwork around to prove I didn't snitch. See I didn't snitch. Read it? Yeah, I would never tell you dude?

00:31:31
Speaker 2: What is you said? Five point eight? Six point two? Like? What is what's the number that you're a diabetic?

00:31:36
Speaker 4: Six point three?

00:31:38
Speaker 2: Oh shit, you were right there.

00:31:39
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's called being a pre diabetic. I've been in a six y two for like a decade.

00:31:43
Speaker 3: Right, so I'm type one diabetic?

00:31:44
Speaker 4: Oh wow? Yeah the other one to you give.

00:31:46
Speaker 6: Ref So your A one C? Like I check my blood sugar. You probably see me do it before. That's an immediate result and you know exactly in real time what your blood sugar is. Your A one C is essentially like what Joe is saying, like a ninety day average of where you're at. It doesn't correlate to the number you'd see on a glucometer. But the A one C is crucial because like mine being type one diabetic, it's good if I'm like seven point two and six point two for someone who's not is like considered you're on the verge of it. But you want to be between five and seven, being like the like max. They want you in between like six and seven and like the decimal point system. But yeah, the A one C is just like your average glucose over the last ninety days. It gives you a good measurement for long term effects.

00:32:33
Speaker 7: And doctr McPherson man, I should I should have brought the paperwork that we've had a really cool like it's been cool. How did you get put on like your just one same way I did, y'all say, I get put on with everybody.

00:32:44
Speaker 4: And I learned this from Rogan being a Joe Rogan fan. When Joe Grogan was like, man, I just get into the stuff I'm a fan of It's like that's what I do. I just get into the stuff i'm a fan of. So like as soon as I started seeing the Dane of White chet Trent change, cause it was like clear to me because we watched Dane White fight years before, like you know, being a fan of his. Over the years, I've seen him go through some ship and I've seen him look really bad, like scarily like big and red faced, like puffy, just like scarily bad. And I mean, y'all you hang out with him more than I do. Man, that dude looks incredible. Bro. He looks young, he's sharp, he hears great. Remember I used to not hear nothing. He still can't hear that one seems like that left ears past turn up. Yeah yeah yeah, but he just seems really you know, just and I started watching his transition, So I was like, man, I should I should maybe reach out to this guy. Maybe maybe I got some blood work that's off, maybe he can see something. So I just cold hit him, and lucky for me, his wife Sage, love you. Sage. Sage is the best Sage as a country music fan, so she knew who I was. They just loved like her and her daughter, her daughter's Bailey's age, so they love Morgan. They just love the whole community of country music. So they were familiar enough with me to be like, Yo, we want to get you on a on a thing with him. So Gary immediately got involved and changed everything, and I bought right into it too. It didn't take me no time at all. Man.

00:34:03
Speaker 5: That's what I'm curious about, because I mean, I've been around you, like we've known each other for what four years? Yeah, something like that, and I feel like there's been like moments and phases to where you're in the middle of doing something right.

00:34:15
Speaker 2: He's showing up at a gallon of water lemon juice in it?

00:34:19
Speaker 4: Right?

00:34:19
Speaker 2: Is I'm doing it Boyce.

00:34:21
Speaker 5: And being super intentional with this one this time? What feels different about it?

00:34:26
Speaker 4: I think it was really the like realizing that I just want to feel good. Like I thought. I said this whenever we did our five K and I meant this. I thought that every problem I had in life would be solved if I ever found any kind of success in stability. And then I started getting success in stability, and I still knowe of those problems were solved, and I know that's the old cliche thing. And trust me, when I was broke and I heard wealthy people say this, I would get sick. I'd be like, we don't love your money. Give it to me, you fucking fat asshole. Right, I'll be happy with it. You know what I'm saying. It's like, but that's not like. Trust me, I enjoy the things that money can do. But it was that And hmmm, I'll let y'all know if we can keep this part in, because if we can, this will be the biggest clip of this show. My wife and I are talking about having a baby, and it really made me realize that almost forty I was like, I mean, I gotta lived at least sixty. I gotta see this kid into college, like, and my plan was never to be sixty. It was to be like fifty five. I think Garcia died in fifty six, so since I was young, I was like, fifty six, it'd be great for me. You know what I'm to say, it like a tween Garcia win. I mean, you know what I'm saying there, twenty seven that's when all the other stars died. It's twenty seven or fifty six in celebrity world. Let me fifty. Yeah, but now I'm like, well, I'd like to see my sixties, you know what I mean? And uh, and that really lit it up. And being able to see blood work got kind of nerdy. You have do you have a constant? Do you have a libra on you?

00:35:55
Speaker 2: No?

00:35:56
Speaker 3: Have you ever worn one?

00:35:57
Speaker 4: Yeah?

00:35:57
Speaker 3: So I were like, it's got a dex com G seven.

00:36:00
Speaker 6: It's just like they're trying to find a continuous loop, which is like a device you wear that registers your blood sugar and then gives you the appropriate insulin. That is essentially the cure they're looking for. But I have a thing I can wear on me that constantly monitors it. But I'm not wearing it right now.

00:36:16
Speaker 4: I know this sounds crazy, but I just started nerding out about it. Taylor. I got this thing, he knows what I'm talking about, called a libra and it just it'll show my constant blood sugar in real time. Right. So then I started getting nerdy and being like I would eat certain things to watch the effects of it. Yeah, And it's little shit like that has just changed my whole life. Now I just want to eat better because I feel better. Like, I know that sounds so corny and who would have thought being fucking fat my whole life and all I would feel better if I just ate better.

00:36:42
Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's insane because it's like when I, like when I was three hundred ten pounds, or when anybody is overweight or anything or eats like shit and has a good body, you it becomes your norm.

00:36:54
Speaker 2: So you just think this is how normal feels.

00:36:56
Speaker 1: All the time, and you really don't start realizing until you start peeling back layers in the blood work and eating a little bit healthy and getting that one two three weeks of eating healthy where you're like, I can notice an obvious difference in my mood, my cognitive function. I can even start to see it a little bit. Hey, that wasn't there before. That's kind of nice to have that there. Like, you start to see.

00:37:13
Speaker 2: Those things now, you start to realize what you were dealing with wasn't normal.

00:37:17
Speaker 1: The normals over here. You just have to get to that point. And so it's I think it is one of those things that people don't think.

00:37:22
Speaker 2: About a whole lot.

00:37:23
Speaker 1: There's like, oh, I always feel X, Y and Z, not realizing it's not it doesn't have to be like that.

00:37:28
Speaker 5: Yeah, but getting obsessive with the measuring, the data and everything else. I feel you on that because then it's like your competitive nature. It becomes like a little.

00:37:36
Speaker 4: Game you start, it starts, and dude, I'm falling in love with the clarity. I'm getting, like, like a clarity I've never had, Like, man, I get out of that. I wake up every morning to do anywhere from fifteen to thirty minutes in a sauna, and then I immediately do six minutes in the cold water, and then I go for my walk or go from my swim. It's the first thing I do every morning, and I'm thinking so clear in that sauna. Man, I've only been up six to seven minutes and I'm just already just cooking. It's just man, I've just never felt more fucking focused and dialed in. I get to bring the sauna and the cold plunge on the road.

00:38:08
Speaker 2: Now, no ship, no shop.

00:38:09
Speaker 4: Yeah, because you know how dang is. I told Dane, I was like, hey, how do you carry your mobile sauna? Well he just sends me one already in a case. You know what I'm just saying. That's what's like that real rich, It's just like, yo, no problem, will send it straight over. Yeah, and they literally I got one in storages now it just follows me.

00:38:25
Speaker 2: It's great for real, that is what's like.

00:38:29
Speaker 4: And Gary berekas have y'all been with me? Y'all should funk with him, just y'all should have him on.

00:38:33
Speaker 2: Yeah, we would love to have him on.

00:38:34
Speaker 1: We've kind of we went back and forth in I think we've been out to him for yeah, like January when we were kind of talking back and forth, and then he went on Rogan and then he went on nelk Boys, and then he went on all these other shows, and so his people kind of reached out with like, well, what are your guys's numbers? What's going on here? And I think that's when that's what kind went the red tape hits. Because I've been around Gary on three separate occasions now every single time. I've enjoyed him every single time. He's just a wealth of knowledge, great personality, Like he's just and he seems like intentionally speaks to you, like he's not trying to think about the next thing he has to do. He's right there with you. So I really enjoy him. One person he's had on his show, his podcast Superhuman podcast or whatever is Gabriel Lyon who Will and I work with and she's in She's in the same world. She does very similar blood tests. She you know, you zoom with her and all that stuff, and it's it is fascinating stuff to kind of feel like find that little edge of where you can kind of get better and you know what your body can process what it can't process. And because when we get older, I mean, dude, I'm thirty two and I'm like, you know, I got a shoulder the knee that my fingers are facing different directions, and he's kind of worry like, now that that part of my life is over, I want to make sure that cognitively I can handle stuff and I can you know, be old enough and I don't like run around my kids when they're older and all all that stuff. You really start to think about future stuff that you do right now.

00:39:53
Speaker 2: It's tough.

00:39:54
Speaker 4: Was that something you thought about when you got the weight off? Like? Have you have you already talked about this a bunch on this podcast?

00:40:01
Speaker 2: I don't make you no, I haven't really talked.

00:40:03
Speaker 1: We We'll just kind of mentioned, Hey, Taylor lost a lot of weight, and I say yeah, Like we haven't talked about that, but like I noticed like back pain or sleeping on my side on my shoulder were hurt in the morning. And now that my shoulder doesn't really hurt the more, in my back doesn't really hurt anymore. Like there's things that I just thought were normal because oh, I'm playing football, I'm lifting weights through. You play through everything, you play through everything, and you start to get you start to lose when you're like, oh damn, like this already feels so much better to me, right that I'm like two sixty two fifty five.

00:40:32
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it is. It's a it's a noticeable difference.

00:40:35
Speaker 4: Was it intentional though?

00:40:37
Speaker 2: To lose that weight?

00:40:38
Speaker 1: When I knew that the writing was on the wall and I was going to get cut and you know, the knee thing happened and all that, I was like, let me, you know, I'm just probably talking eat a little bit id yeah.

00:40:48
Speaker 2: Get jacky, yeah, get yeah twenty four.

00:40:50
Speaker 1: See I got I was like a body type where when I was at my playing weight, it was, you know, three shakes a day, there were twelve hundred calories, three meals, and I'm losing five pounds at night, like I always had to be a guy that had to gain weight.

00:41:02
Speaker 2: So when I kind of just ate normal for a little bit, it just flew off.

00:41:06
Speaker 1: Yeah, I lost like thirty forty pounds in a hurry to the point will say, hey, you're starting a little sickly.

00:41:12
Speaker 2: Like me right now. Yeah, it was everything all right a little while.

00:41:15
Speaker 1: It was you know, you kind of just live, And I've never lived like that before in sports, where.

00:41:20
Speaker 2: You like live and you're just eating when you're hungry.

00:41:23
Speaker 1: And that's it. You're not like shoving a meal. Like when in the high school we joked about this. I would look up at three in the morning just have a protein chink wow, and I go back to sleep, not realizing that's actually horrible for you to do. But you would do shit like when you're you're like trying to put on the weight get process. Yeah, to get out of college. But you you've you can obviously see your body is already changing. What's your now that you see that this is achievable? What is the goal for you?

00:41:46
Speaker 4: I'm doing it in little goals. So the five k B I made was my first one, and I needed that because between us, I came out of the gun hard for about ninety days. Yeah, and about twenty five days before the five K started, I just fell off the rails, really, yeah, just gave up all that work, ate like shit a little bit on and off, had a couple of big drinking benders, just kind of went back to old habits.

00:42:05
Speaker 5: You think, oh, it's only a few hours that I'm doing today, Like, no, that one.

00:42:09
Speaker 4: I just thought about schedule. I just I don't have no excuses. The schedule swallowed me and I'd learned from it. I won't do it again. But I woke up the day of the five K like I'm not as prepared for this as I was three weeks ago. It sucks, and I still feeling it's a tough feeling. And you show up and you still do it because you know I could, because I got in better shape and I did lose a lot of weight and I was feeling better. But I had a moment then where kind of refired me up and I was like, all right, now I want to do another five K. I want to do it around Thanksgiving, and I want to do it at a constant job. This right here was at a brisk power walk. I'm not I'm not embarrassed of my mouth minute. It was like eighteen nineteen minute miles, which for me, when a guy that started at five hundred and something pounds and couldn't walk a mile, felt great about that. Yeah, and now I'd like to get it down to like sixteen fifteen and a little jog, really kind of slow, steady jog, and then go to the K the Two Bears five k next year and put up a real fucking time twice like Burt did. Burt did it the first time and then went back and did it with me.

00:43:10
Speaker 2: Really, And if.

00:43:10
Speaker 4: This goes the way I wanted to, I am dragging Burt Chrischer to do a half marathon next fall. That's okay. I like that, and I love saying it here because I said I was gonna do the five k on NELK and fucking went and did it and lost a lot of weight. So y'all hold me to this, just like y'all helped me do it and I had to show up in May and fucking sweat my balls off in passa data. Yeah.

00:43:34
Speaker 5: Any kind of I feel like to probably remotivates you because you're getting around all your boys and everybody who was kind of either preparing for it or they're in the middle of doing something for themselves. You're just kind of like Burt doing it twice gott second time.

00:43:46
Speaker 4: It made me feel great and it was cool to see other how many other big guys did it because of bird are because of me. Foley was there from you know what I'm talking about, a RU garbage podcast. He walked it with us. He's a very robust man, you know what I'm you know, It's like he encouraged he inspired me because I kept looking at him like we're about equally yoked here. It was like, this is fair. My only goal was like not to let him smoke me quiet and I bet he quietly. He was like, similar, dude, starts jogging right now, I'm gonna die because I'm going I'll faint, you know what I'm saying. Before I left, I'm sure he looked at me. That's how fat people size each other. I'm sure he looked at me, and I was like, fly, let's stake together so we can control our own pace. I kind of I roped him in immediately. I'm like, come on, be my guy.

00:44:39
Speaker 1: You just took off at the start. Yeah, I got a ways to go.

00:44:49
Speaker 2: That's awesome. That is cool. You're knocking those things off, no problem.

00:44:53
Speaker 4: You feel good, man, And I do feel good. My testosterones going up, my my labs. As you could expect, we're bad, you know what I mean, they just wasn't good. It's all every level that could be off and O beast man as you could expect them to balance, and some of that stuff out just helped so much.

00:45:06
Speaker 1: Were they they're obviously expected to be bad. Were they as bad as you thought they would be? Or were there a couple of silver linings and they're like okay, yeah, all right.

00:45:14
Speaker 4: The kidney and the liver surprised me. Yeah, they surprised everybody for what it was. It was big shock. You know what I'm saying. You should Everybody was sure they didn't want to read that.

00:45:23
Speaker 2: Looking got to do that again. Yeah, you're gonna go get a second opinion.

00:45:30
Speaker 4: Even Garrett was like, I don't want to tell you this, but your kidney's a liver. Incredible, you know what I was like.

00:45:36
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00:46:13
Speaker 4: I've been doing pretty good too, man. When's the last time, y'all.

00:46:15
Speaker 2: One on ship Spring Tour? M Spring Tour.

00:46:20
Speaker 5: You get on the road, you do a show like you have some tequila soda to take the edge off before you, you know, go out there and do your thing with the fans and stuff, and then it just like kicks out like a motivator.

00:46:33
Speaker 2: Yeah. And by the end of the show, you're like, we should just drink all night.

00:46:36
Speaker 4: Yeah, y'all up people to drink with. I've had I've had a good y'all. I swear to God a lot of people. You're a lot. I've got you puke and drunk and had a blast doing it. You were so fun with Yes, you are so funny at home, and I like Taylor because Taylor drinks like me. You see it in his eyes. There's a switch that happens where he's intually like I'm doing this until I pass out. Yeah, you know what I'm saying.

00:47:01
Speaker 1: And it's also a goal, like if I'm gonna get this fucked up everyone else around me.

00:47:06
Speaker 4: This ship sinks like the tat we play music to the death.

00:47:10
Speaker 2: Mother, women and children can live first, the rest of the men. You're dying. That is the end of it. I know it is. I'll try to sneak his will. Will Will unders.

00:47:19
Speaker 1: Drunk Will understands when it's time to stop, but drunk Taylor will not let drunk Will stop. Hey, let's have one, and I'll have one if you have one. I've I've taken a couple of waters while he's taking some tequila.

00:47:31
Speaker 2: I knew.

00:47:35
Speaker 4: To the bartend.

00:47:36
Speaker 5: Hey give me that cup you just threw away, And they're kind of like.

00:47:43
Speaker 1: Four or five ahead of Will. I'm like, no fucking chance, I'm gonna let this guy. And then the next day it's like you pretty fed up last night, weren't you. No, no, no, no, we're both gonna be Hey, you were pretty fucked up.

00:47:52
Speaker 2: I'll be looking at tailor in the face like I know you're fucking lying to me. You just line to your face.

00:48:00
Speaker 4: I'm taking the water trick. I like that was that because the trick you got the water because I've been in a situation where you're like me, I'm like the host kind of so like a group of people coming, I'm like, we should take a shot, right, the next group comes in, I'm like, we should take a shot. And then Will comes over and Wills like we should take a shot, And I'm like, I just took three shots, right, you know what I'm saying.

00:48:19
Speaker 2: No, Jelly just walks behind you. Hey for the boys, Bubba.

00:48:23
Speaker 4: Doubt. That is a little blackout drunk grimlin especially only comedy clubs. We're safe there. It's the last safe Frontier.

00:48:34
Speaker 1: June twelfth, Dude Live show in Nashville. Man, here here, what's what we're doing?

00:48:38
Speaker 4: Let me check it.

00:48:39
Speaker 1: And you know, last time we were in the live show when you came on, we got fucked up to like midnight.

00:48:44
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was a good night. That was a good one night.

00:48:47
Speaker 4: That was a great night.

00:48:48
Speaker 2: He's tried to get me at the softball game did I remember we were we were saying to the crowd and came up.

00:48:55
Speaker 1: It was like, oh, tells out a big lure, and the whole crowd lost, and I was like, God, damn it, when's the of the twelfth twelve?

00:49:04
Speaker 2: We can't teach them too? No, no, no, no, I'll tell you what I do.

00:49:07
Speaker 1: Love you saying maybe, because what I've noticed with this beer Olympics thing is everyone wants to say yes first, everyone wants to come in by absolutely, and then schedules getting the way. So the fact that you said maybe made me feel a whole lot better. When that note comes for sure that this conversation, I'm like, man, I feel real good about that. No, when it comes back, I get it. And you knew you were gonna be a little bit busy what I'm about.

00:49:29
Speaker 4: I got you. It looks like, so you've.

00:49:32
Speaker 2: Gotten to do American idol in the voice which one you prefer?

00:49:37
Speaker 4: Thank you will? What a friend? I think that was?

00:49:41
Speaker 2: Of course you came from JP, didn't it.

00:49:43
Speaker 4: Yeah, you're such a good friend. You rebroke up Florida Georgia line. Any chance we had of that, I went.

00:49:56
Speaker 2: Special. Maybe it's just started something, hopefully I mean, you want them to get back together.

00:50:01
Speaker 1: They're putting absolute banger after banger out and behind the scenes it was way worse than it wasn't.

00:50:08
Speaker 5: So after American Idol and The Voice, where's your alliance with BK and.

00:50:15
Speaker 4: Who I'm voting for? I can't vote That right has been that right has been restricted. I loved the I love the Voice. I love them both. Obviously the political answer, I do love them.

00:50:35
Speaker 2: Some differences experiencing them both.

00:50:37
Speaker 4: I've had more time with American Idol, so I've done more with them, so by default I know more about everything, their production crew. It's obviously I'm gonna it's hard. Because Reeba was at the Voice now Dan and Share at the Voice too. It was easy even just a year or two ago, because it was like all the homies an American Idol. Luke Bryan's at American Idol, Lionel Richie loves me. I fucking love him. Katy Perry is the coolest person ever. By the way, Katy Perry is a boss. She is so gangster. But the Voice now with reebund Dan, dude, it's Dan and say, it's really cool over there. I got to mentor at American Idol, though, and that was different. I spent a whole day and I could not believe how excited I was to do it, Like when I started like getting to hear their stories and seeing that I could actually help because I just assumed, dude, if you've made it to the top twenty four on American Idol, I don't got much advice for you, Like what do I know that you haven't figured out? You know what I'm saying, I go out here and sing off key right now, I'll bombit. You know what I'm saying. I'm two drinks away from going completely tone deaf in this old family. You know what I'm just saying, I don't think I can help. But when I realized that they were young and had never even some of these people had like never left their home state and here they are in Hawaii and they're fixing to go live in LA for three weeks with a bunch of strangers and battled it out on now TV, I was like, I can help these people, you know what I mean. It's like you think about how that's a moment in their life that they'll tell to their great grandchildren that they're alive, you know, what I mean, whether they came in first or fifteenth, that's a wild story that I'm getting to be a part of. So by default, probably American idol.

00:52:18
Speaker 1: Answer, we got them, Yeah, DMZ Jolley Rell hates the voice.

00:52:24
Speaker 4: And I love the voice.

00:52:25
Speaker 5: You've always enjoyed that kind of stuff though, because you you'll go to the local juvenile and everything else. I feel like, and you can crag me if I'm wrong, but it almost you strike me as somebody who there's been so many people who's imprinted on you that when now that you have the platform and the voice that you do, you know you can have that same effect on a young you.

00:52:41
Speaker 4: For sure, for sure. And I also draw from the times that nobody was there, Like the juvenile thing is a stroke because the only people that came to see us when I was in juvenile the Gideons. Are you familiar with the Gideon organization? Have you ever been to a hotel and open up a drawer and there was a Bible? Yeah, that's the Gideons. So what they do is they mass produce Bibles and give them away free. They give them the people incarcerated, hotels, motels across America. They just give away bibles. That's kind of there, and it's a led by kind of a bunch of older men. But they were just coming to give us bibles once a month, the New Testaments because they fit in our pocket, and which I appreciate because I read the Bible because of that. But nobody ever came in that like spoke like, since I partner with this juvenile up here, Joiner Lucas machine gun Kelly, Uh, we've had titan players go de hop hit me. He wants to go. Y'all are waiting on me to send y'all a date right now. You hit me about that more than anybody will about to hit you. And d hop do hop hits me a lot, like yo, when am I going to the juvenile?

00:53:42
Speaker 3: Like?

00:53:42
Speaker 4: It's so cool to see that, you know. It's like, man, we never had nobody that cool come talk to us like me and MGK went in there the other day and played spades for four hours with every unit no clean house, running dimes on the doll. You know what I mean. It was awesome, And it's like the coolest thing is most of these IDs in here don't know either one of us. Really, they might've known him because he's like uber famous. So they know me because I'm local in the studios named after me, in the facility. You know what I'm just saying. Yeah, they're not like Jelly. They're not there banging save me, you know what I'm saying. It's not a big hitting there. You never know. You know what I'm saying. But they watch me on TV now when I have an Awards show, they watch. That's why I shouted them out the CFTs. I need they be watching. But yeah, so it's I go in there because I just want them to see people that I don't know. Man, it be really just to see things you don't see before, like just people to go in there and treat them like humans or kids again, Like I'm just going to treat them like kids. I go play spades and talk shit to them, you know what i mean. Like it's fun. You know, that's what they need. We forget their kids. And you know the coolest thing is Judge Calloway has been coming in there. She went in there when we did the songwriting program and wrote songs with the kids. She went in there when I went to see him last time to say hi and watch his play spades and put judge.

00:54:52
Speaker 2: Judge.

00:54:52
Speaker 4: Judge Calloway is one of the judges at Juvenile. Okay, you know how awesome that is for them to see her being human, not this godlike figure and a gown and a gabble. And it's so good for her to see them be sixteen, right, You know what I mean civil empathy.

00:55:09
Speaker 1: I see all the people walking through her door every day. Eventually you get numb to it.

00:55:12
Speaker 4: Yeah, and all you see, all you see, you don't see the agent think I'm as a kid. You see specially aggravated robbery, you see attempted homicide, you see their charges. Because this juvenile down here is only houses serious crimes. It's like when I take you all there, you'll see there's kids and they're looking at twenty thirty, forty fifty years. It's crazy. No sad, it's really sad. It's really dark. That's why I was for so many year. I spent years in that same facility.

00:55:36
Speaker 2: Music City Miracle, you watch it there.

00:55:38
Speaker 4: I had the funniest moment in there last week, Tailor. I've talked to this kid and we're doing the music program and Ernest is up there singing or something, and he goes why you do this? And I go why do I do what? He goes, why do you come here and sing for us? And I was like, because I was here. He was like, oh, you were somewhere like this, and I was like, no, I was here. He was like, like in a juvenile or a group home or something. I was like, here, motherfucker, right here, in this kitchen right here. I worked in there. I served food. A guy named Oscar was the kitchen. Did I was in these sales? He was like, oh you were here. I was like, yeah, man here And instantly I watched him look at me a little differently, you know, because it wasn't like I was from Minnesota or somewhere else, like oh no, no, I was in this juvenile you know what I mean. Once he got it took him so long. It also made me realize, you know, that's also so humbling for me. I'm going and serving dudes really like I said, they know me, but they don't. Wasn't this cool When I brought Joinning Lucas. That was a big deal. When I facetimed NBA young boy in there, they lost their shit walks in They're like, whatever, you want to play spades? Old dude, man, how's your case is that area?

00:56:40
Speaker 1: Is that all pretty much Nashville and Tennessee.

00:56:42
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's all Nashville. You have a couple like from Columbia. If they can't house them up there, uh, gallating, if they can't hold them up there, if it's a serious charge from like a county over.

00:56:51
Speaker 1: When you go when you go there, is it pretty much looked the exact same or there's been some upgrades, Like how does it feel walking back into that building after you exist so much time in there?

00:57:01
Speaker 2: Exact sam? Is that a good thing? Or about that?

00:57:04
Speaker 4: It's kind of sad. Yeah, it's kind of sad. The good news is they've they've been approved because of the stadium moving all that land's getting brought down eventually, so in the next three years they're going to move to a new juvenile too nice, which is cool because the county has agreed to let me get in early and build the studio in it from the beginning, so I'll be able to build a real statum because right now we've had to put a studio in a concrete and steal closet in every unit, so I've had to build like five of them. There we're here. I'm gonna be able to build like real educational unit and education. I'm gonna be able to dump a couple million dollars into this place and really build it up.

00:57:38
Speaker 2: That's cool, man. Yeah, you bought up that new stadium. First concert, new stadium, jelly roll.

00:57:44
Speaker 4: I have a twenty twenty seven. Can I tell you the craziest dream I have? This is like me dreaming big. I dreamed to be the last show at Nissan Stadium and the first show at Nissan Stadium.

00:57:58
Speaker 2: That would be hype as fun.

00:58:00
Speaker 4: That wouldn't that be? Like? How much more poetic could it be for the local kid?

00:58:04
Speaker 1: You know what?

00:58:05
Speaker 4: I tell you? What my big You know? You know I'm doing the stadium for CMAS this year Saturday Night, the Saturday Night CMA. I'll do the thirty minute set. But I think we're gonna swing for it next year. Really, that's breaking news.

00:58:18
Speaker 2: To And that's my last concert.

00:58:21
Speaker 4: That's what everybody who wants to know. Why I didn't do Nashville this year wasn't because of the c MA fest. It was because I think next year I want to really go for it.

00:58:29
Speaker 2: If you're creating a lineup for that last one in the old Kning Sound Stadium. Who's a lineup? Oh goodness, great questions.

00:58:39
Speaker 4: It's like, who are the ideal is? You gotta bring Ernest God because he's a Nashville guy. That's like a must do. You know what you do? You got to bring all the Nashville guys to some capacity. So like Tenpenny, Chris Young, you know what I mean, like Dustin Lynch. The obvious is like all the Middle Tennessee guys have got to come straight in, you know what I mean? Yeah, you know who's from Middle Tennessee. I didn't know it. And I was so embarrassed by this. The singer from Lady A Hillary.

00:59:09
Speaker 1: Oh for real, she grew up in Donaldson. Yeah, I have no that's over my before. They've been cleaning up for about two decades.

00:59:18
Speaker 4: Yeah, there a huge deal. Yeah, I believe her name is Hill. The three of them, yea, her name is Hillary. I'm sure I'm not butchering it. And uh yeah she's uh, she's from Nashville too. And she came to me the other day about that and just kind of we got to really talk about some Nashville stuff. So I do those then I would extend to the Tennessee portion of it. So I would love to have I don't know, if I blow this could be some of my tricks. So I can't give all these away. Yeah right, But I would reach out to my Memphis friends. I would have a couple of my Memphis friends come up and be surprise guests. And I'd have a couple of my East Tennessee friends be surprised guests. Okay, I would reach throughout the state for sure. I'd make it a Tennessee thing.

00:59:54
Speaker 5: And I love it too because the people who are day one jelly roll people, they're already like he's talking about so and so, talking about so and so.

01:00:00
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I have no idea who stopping out check You have any idea what from either Sense or Memphis?

01:00:08
Speaker 3: Oh no, I mean I can. I can probably guess.

01:00:12
Speaker 2: On who he's guests the day on.

01:00:15
Speaker 6: I was just thinking about that fucking freestyle you have you go my po ask.

01:00:20
Speaker 3: I swear to God that freestyle.

01:00:23
Speaker 6: I mean, my friends are watching it two weekends ago, like two am.

01:00:26
Speaker 3: We're just like all stand up, but like it's so good.

01:00:29
Speaker 4: I'm proud of that freestyle stands the test of time.

01:00:34
Speaker 2: For the record.

01:00:36
Speaker 4: All of my old music did not stand the test of time. Record freestyle did, Dude.

01:00:43
Speaker 2: What was that transition like going from rap to country?

01:00:48
Speaker 4: It was easy because I was just starting to sing a lot more and play the guitar, and I was just I was growing as a human and as a man. And I don't want to say I was running out of subject matter, but I really felt what Andre said when he was like, man, and I think he's in his fifties now, late forties or whatever it is, He's like, what am I gonna rap about? You know, we're just understand we've never hip hop's like the UFC. It's not as old as we think it is. Like we look at the UFC, like this has been around one hundred years. People have been fighting forever, yeah, but the UFC has really been around thirty, yeah, twenty five something Like if you compared to how long football's been around, people have been throwing leather balls and calling it touchdowns, you know what I mean. Like in comparison, the same thing happened with hip hop, Like we don't know what that tailwind looks like. We're just watching our first real generation of hip real commercial success. Commercially successful rappers age the ice cubes, you know what I mean, Like, we're just now seeing that happen. So I didn't even know how hip hop would age, to be honest, because all I seen was guys like jay Z at the peak when they were at their absolute best, say I'm too old to do it. I'm done. Yeah, you know what I mean. So I kind of always had it in my head of like, Okay, this is a young mass work.

01:02:01
Speaker 1: Yeah, one of jay Z's best fuck you moments to me, and I just foun out about this. The lead singer of Oasis wonder Wall. Have you seen that clip he was headlining. He's headlining at a festival, and it's like it used to be like just a strictly rock and roll festival, right, and jay Z is like the number one dude, and the guy from Oasis.

01:02:21
Speaker 4: This is two thousand and eight in Glastonbury, by the way, it's one of the biggest festivals ever.

01:02:25
Speaker 1: Basically goes off on jay Z like this is about rock and roll, this is disgusting, blah blah blah. That kind of goes in on jay Z. Jay Z opens his show singing Wonderwall. He comes out singing wonder and then then it goes, I got ninety nine problems with a bitch, ain't one and he goes into it.

01:02:41
Speaker 2: He's like, obviously not playing the guitar, but this ship goes so hard.

01:02:44
Speaker 4: No, no, he's just being petty. This is how he started this show. Yeah, this is what makes him the king. We share a birthday and I take pride.

01:02:51
Speaker 2: In that he turned that out. You turn that up, Jack, headphones?

01:02:58
Speaker 3: Can you hear it?

01:03:00
Speaker 2: Put those headphones on? Jelly? Does Jillie have any Do you have phones? Yes? Damn, Jelly, I had no headphones.

01:03:08
Speaker 4: I'm sorry. I know what he's doing here. I've watched this a thousand times, such a fan.

01:03:18
Speaker 2: So this dude's been talking ship to him.

01:03:20
Speaker 4: Ye, this is this is literally how he starts the show.

01:03:23
Speaker 1: And jay Z didn't say a word in the media. People, Hey, what do you think? He ignored radio, ignored news, all that, and he comes out and just ships on this cat.

01:03:34
Speaker 2: But yeah, that's basically it. When you said jay Z, I was like, damn, that is awesome.

01:03:41
Speaker 1: Yeah you also brought up our boy MGK. Yeah, which I know you did me a solid. That night at the super Bowl, he was the first time him and I met. I think I told this already on the podcast. He was obviously going through something, I think the thing with the UFC fighter Sean Sean Strickland, so he was kind of off, do a little should through to me whatever. And I see Joey Roll a couple of nights later, and I was like, yeah, I madam k because you know I'm a huge fan.

01:04:06
Speaker 2: I was like, it was all right, blah blah blah.

01:04:08
Speaker 1: Fast forward two nights later, We're at Caesar's in this private room. It's me and Jelly Dana Dana squad, and he walks in and I was like in the bathroom, came back and this man was so fucking nice to me, to the point where he's like, yo, I was sending my music, you can give me pointers thinking Jelly.

01:04:26
Speaker 2: Must have seen.

01:04:29
Speaker 4: He is like the most misunderstood dude, you know what I mean. You caught him in those moments where he's constantly misunderstood because he just doesn't understand this all still in his mind, he's like, I don't even know this UFC fighter, Like why would he even fuck with me like that? You know what I mean? Yeah, He's like, which I love Sean Strickland too, so it sucks to kind of, you know, I'm such a fan of both. But it's like MGK just looks at it, like and he had the realist thing he said to me one time, he said, Man, I just feel like if I and have make the fashion choices I made, I would have never caught all the shit I've caught, you know what I mean. He's like, I feel like I kind of get unfairly picked on just because I'm I'm you know, I'm artsy, you know what I'm saying. He's like, I'm uniquely myself. He's like, but like he's The sad thing is you might not know it. He's like, but he says it just like this. He's like, don't let the pain and nails failure. Like I'm like a dude's dude. He really is. He's like a go like wrestle with you in the yard, go party with you all night. Like he's like a dude's dude, you know what I mean. Like he's a funny kind of dude man, And he's, ah, you've seen it that night. He's charming, he's funny, he's a sweet dude. But its headlines would have you believe he's a monster, you know what I mean. He's got a chip on his shoulder and there's a little bit of that, but he's also I remind people to remember where people are from. This dude is from the east side of Cleveland, Ohio. I don't know if you've ever been to Cleveland, Ohio, except for the time you spent at the Brown Stadium, but you've seen it.

01:05:50
Speaker 2: That was it.

01:05:51
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I'm willing that the sun wasn't shining a bunch. I love that city to death. That's one of my favorite places to play because it's hard working America. But it's a tough fucking town. But listen, I compare all those towns like that, that rust Belt. Pittsburgh's the same way. That's a tough town like which is why the shows are great. Truck Listen, this isn't a save, this is real. I would rather play anywhere in the Roust Belt than anywhere l A and down.

01:06:19
Speaker 2: Damn, that's a shot of Arizona.

01:06:21
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, no, no, I love Arizona. To Arizona's I'm saying coastal.

01:06:27
Speaker 2: Coastal was like I go to Ohio's because State and I went to Michigan.

01:06:30
Speaker 4: Sometimes those super major cities can be a little too cool for the show. Oh really, they'll enjoy the show, but like when you go play Indiana, they lose their ship on a Tuesday. Yeah, you go play LA on a Saturday, they'll get out of their seat for seven songs to place.

01:06:51
Speaker 1: LA is gonna be one of the hardest places to play because everyone's in the music industry or the acting industry.

01:06:55
Speaker 2: Everybody thinks.

01:06:57
Speaker 4: That's why my success in Nashville is so mind That's why it's always been a big deal that I could sell tickets here because most artists can't.

01:07:04
Speaker 2: Really. Yeah, man, so many people come in.

01:07:08
Speaker 5: Yeah, I hate to cut this off, but I have to be So did you drink too much water?

01:07:12
Speaker 4: They're a big fellow. I sucked me down a leader and feel great.

01:07:17
Speaker 1: Hey you with the sucking. That's that's the third time.

01:07:20
Speaker 4: No, I'm telling you. Yeah, what did what did you do to Willie this morning? Why was he pinned? Y'all drink last night? Or no?

01:07:30
Speaker 2: No, we did nothing. We haven't, dude, we drink at spring tour?

01:07:32
Speaker 4: Are y'all really? What are y'all doing right now? Like three pods a week.

01:07:35
Speaker 1: No, just want we did our spring tour, and our spring tour is like Falcons. We just did two weeks ago last week. That kid's a stud to talk about a kid who's.

01:07:46
Speaker 4: Just like what a cool personality.

01:07:48
Speaker 2: Yes, he's awesome.

01:07:50
Speaker 1: Raheem Morris, the head coach, he's like a dude's dude like talking ship. We walked in the in the facility and he's legit like, hey, you guys do whatever the fun you want. Like we're like walking in the field while they're doing practice and a lot of NFL teams do not do that. Then obviously Kirks the Man two. But we during those spring tours, we'll do like three episodes.

01:08:06
Speaker 4: In the week.

01:08:07
Speaker 1: But right now, I mean it's Tuesday afternoons or Tuesday mornings is when you're gonna catch busting with the boys.

01:08:12
Speaker 4: How was how was the ram one? It hadn't came out yet. I'm excited about it.

01:08:16
Speaker 1: Oh, Ran Bro, You're gonna like Ran the way he talks about Rabel, how he left. I think the people listening now that one came out last week. But he was he's like one of those guys too. Where with John Robinson, how he was a GM. He kept it tightlight the Patriots. They meant it like everything was like in need to know. Basis kind of kept to himself, kept a major like arms length with the players, with the Ran. He walks in the facility, dude, and everyone's like loves him. He's sitting down, he's eating with the boys like it keeps.

01:08:44
Speaker 2: It very personal.

01:08:45
Speaker 1: It's a completely different energy in the Titans facility right now, which low KEI being a Titans fan, do you should be hype right now?

01:08:50
Speaker 4: I's gonna be the man. I mean, I think Will Levis has got the eye of the Tiger. I've said it from day one. Yeah, I really do. Felt really good to hear Callahan feel the same way whenever he said I think he said that was one of the things that made him want to take the job here. Yeah, and quarterbacks before Stafford get out of Stafford watching I'm like, this is insane.

01:09:13
Speaker 2: He's gonna go.

01:09:14
Speaker 4: I really thinks, all right, we're gonna go to a practice sometime in the summer summer. I'll I'll text you to day you shoul come. Yeah, Well we're gonna go there and just shoot content.

01:09:24
Speaker 2: Absolutely, that would be awesome. But uh.

01:09:26
Speaker 1: Before Willie left, we were talking about MGK. If you guys talked about changing genres, was that anything he has?

01:09:31
Speaker 4: He was one of the ones that inspired me really for sure. Yeah. Whenever he his his Fearless Tread in the Rock about the same time I was releasing Save Me. It was so funny because two dudes that came up doing the same thing, And there was a time me and mg K had real beef. We were very compared. There was a time where there could only be one white rapper at a time, you know. It was kind of that thing, and him and Yellow Wolf had problem in.

01:09:53
Speaker 2: A different traspes between the two.

01:09:55
Speaker 4: Sure, yeah, yeah, yeah, me and I know him and kill had their thing. But at the end of the day, and I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna, you know what I mean, Like that dude is the fucking greatest of all time, period, no discussion, you know what I means over period. It's kind of like when Stapleton gets Best Male Vocalist and you're just like, we should just call it the Chris Stapleton a Ward and he should give it away. That's what we did with him and m You know what I'm saying, like we all know that. It's like you know, but and back then we took you know, it's a bunch of street factors to it. We we only squashed the beef because some street dudes got together and was like, Yo, y'all need to figure this out because y'all are sucking up some money. We got some shit going on that this is interfering with outside of y'all being too goofy white rappers, you know what I mean. And we were like, all right, col So what was I was gonna say?

01:10:42
Speaker 2: I was a figure it.

01:10:44
Speaker 4: I was a young, fucking hater and I thought I was just a loyal writer because you know whatever. But at the end of the day, I was just desperate, you know what I mean. Yeah, just fucking desperate, just being a fucking stone cold hater, you know, and had a call and be a man and say that one day, you know what I mean. But uh, and we've been cool ever since. Man, he's he's he's a he's a great dude. Man, that dude is he's salt of the earth. I look, I'm hope I'm encouraging him right now to go do long for him. I'm like, go do salts go do Joe, Go get on the bus, like, go do the rounds, like go. If the world seen what I see, they would look at you different, you know what I mean. But they only see these real artistic pictures you post and these wild outfits and these headlines, you know what I mean. It's like they don't really get to see your heart, and you've got such a good heart, Like go show the world your heart. Like this dude flies to Cleveland every single weekend to watch his daughter play volleyball every weekend, Like, won't tour do shows during volleyball season, Like it's just what he's on. That's just who that dude is. And I'm like, tell the work, Go tell that story, you know what I mean.

01:11:51
Speaker 2: Where's his hesitation from going and doing these long form shows.

01:11:54
Speaker 4: He's kind of getting willing to, you know what I mean. He's just he's just you know, he's been misunderstood and outcasting for so long he don't even know how to approach it.

01:12:01
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's got to be hard.

01:12:02
Speaker 4: Man.

01:12:03
Speaker 5: If he's got like an introverted personality too, it's there's that fear of like if they're hate me like this, like what if I show them myself alone.

01:12:10
Speaker 1: Yeah, they can actually hate me, right right, Because right now he could probably sit there and look at all the hate and be like, well, they don't really know me stood the minute you allow them to understand you and hate you, right, that's a new fear of luck.

01:12:23
Speaker 4: And he's also growing. He's young man, he's a little younger than me. Even like when Morgan had this incident with the barstool, I got to remind people that, like, I could not as famous as I am today. If me and Bunny would have been this famous when we got together, we'd have gotten canceled immediately.

01:12:41
Speaker 1: For sure, canceled before cancel having for sure we would have blown it.

01:12:46
Speaker 4: For sure, we'd have blew it. We got in trouble every way you can get in trouble to Sunday, we'd have been I am not proud to say this, and this in the headline I'm looking for, but I have I've never thrown a barstool off one of those routs, but I thrown shit offul off of him before. I've been drunk enough to throw a plastic cup, you know what I mean. Like, I'm not proud of that. Neither. In my early late classic cup, big difference. But what I'm saying is is that you're not fucking far. We got escorted out by the police too. You know what I'm saying. It's like I've gotten you know, we got bar fights back then, like real deal, like we were, we were living a totally different thing. We were like, I just be patient, be graceful. You're talking about the most famous artists in America and he's thirty two years old and he's from spit Bucket, East Tennessee. Yeah, you know what I mean, Like I have a little grace.

01:13:36
Speaker 1: Which, by the way, that's one of your East Tennessee friends you would call in to do the show.

01:13:42
Speaker 4: Taking those pieces out.

01:13:43
Speaker 2: Huh that weed you gave me, I'm in.

01:13:46
Speaker 4: I'm telling you right.

01:13:47
Speaker 2: But yeah, it is crazy and I.

01:13:49
Speaker 4: And I'm not saying he was a talented but it's like, man, give my man, give my man some grace.

01:13:53
Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure.

01:13:55
Speaker 4: I thank god he blessed me because at thirty two years old, I'm not going to Congress and talking about and a right. But at forty years old, I got a sixteen year old and I'm afraid of doing drugs. Yeah, you know what I mean, you just life is more experience. His son's gonna grow, He's gonna grow. Man. Man, my man just made a bad mistake. He was over celebrating. Could you imagine being that famous. I'd be over celebrated to.

01:14:16
Speaker 2: Anybody, Bolt barstool downtown.

01:14:19
Speaker 4: Yeah, that was crazy.

01:14:20
Speaker 5: Like he catches a lot of heat too, because he's had some he's had some dust ups recently over the last couple of years or favorite word.

01:14:27
Speaker 2: Yeah what I'm saying.

01:14:32
Speaker 5: Then you go out, You're like, oh, I'm gonna go do rehab, like you're gonna go through all this stuff, and then you have an incident like the barstool, and it's you know, yeah, and you're that like you said the most Schultz.

01:14:42
Speaker 4: When he came to town. Did y'all see that? No, side two things, sidebar. We'll get back to that. But because this is parallel Andrew Schultz hour that he's doing right now, the life might be the best. And I'm a comedy fan, he might be the best hour I've ever seen. Really shit, I'm not bullshit. And I went to I went and seen everybody Comedy Week. I hung out with Tony Hinchcliff again. That's my come. One of my best friends. Tony Hinchcliffe's fucking murderer. I got to watch him work out some of them roast jokes at the rhymen. Really, yeah, dude, it was so cool.

01:15:15
Speaker 2: You obviously watched the roast.

01:15:17
Speaker 4: Oh god, how incredible.

01:15:19
Speaker 1: He owned the show and Will was talking to him. I didn't say what you were saying beause the bog is gonna come out.

01:15:24
Speaker 2: Right, because this will come out This CMA fest is this weekend.

01:15:28
Speaker 5: Yeah, but he was at We were in Austin to do Two Bears One Cave, and I was on before him.

01:15:34
Speaker 2: I did an hour with him.

01:15:35
Speaker 5: And then as we're sitting and eating, you know, they have that comic Dave who does all the grilling, the barbecue and everything else. We're in there eating like, oh Tony's next. So Tony Hinchcliff comes in and I'm like, oh shit, Like, I know you've heard this, but you obviously absolutely murdered it. It's been crazy to see you're just not overnight success, but the way that mainstream has seen you in your popularity in the last since then. And yeah, he was like, yo, step outside with me while I ripped this dart, Like while he's smoking cigarette's like I'll be in there in a minute, and we're just out there talking and he's telling me how he basically squeezed in more time of how everything unfolded during the roast because they were only giving him he could stand up and roast like the table he was at, and then he like kind of talked his way in the night before to do what he did. He knew in his mind he was going to do that, but he had to keep it close to the vest because there's like there's gonna be a situation where I walk.

01:16:27
Speaker 2: Up there on stage and I do everything that he basically did.

01:16:30
Speaker 4: Oh no, no, he's uh, that dude owned the night to me. Him and Nicky owned it.

01:16:38
Speaker 5: And he even talks through that strategy because he was like, I'm two hours after NICKI, so you're feeling the energy in the room, and I probably wouldn't have done these jokes up front if I was at the beginning, or if I was right after or at a different time. He talks about the instinct and the field thing through it all. You can tell like he's I mean, he's I think eleven years, seventeen years in comedy, eleven years with the live show.

01:16:58
Speaker 4: He is one of the greatest comedians. I said this when I got to introduce him at the Rhymeman. Because we've become really good buddies. Is he has done more for new comedians in the last ten years than any comic ever has.

01:17:09
Speaker 2: Ever because of that sixty second.

01:17:13
Speaker 4: Because of that Kill Tony show. He's been putting comedians on for a decade plus, now eleven years he's been putting comedians on. His timing is impeccable. His reading a room, his roasting, he's one of the original roasters with Jeff Rosh. You look back at young baby Face Tony Enthcliffe just slaughtering people. But I think he owned the night for this reason. He was the one comedian that you could tell he didn't just make you laugh, He made you go, you know what I mean right, every single just he's just Zach Kraw said at the best he's a knife of a man is a knife of a man, and watching him walk and me being like really good friends with him when it was over, and then watching Kevin kicktt back, like hold on, we don't need to gloss by this when y'all we just watched something happen here. Yeah, let's let this simmer for a second and you just watched all them comedians on stage loving on them. Yeah, he's even blushing a little bit. It was like, clip this to me so I could send at the Tony. Yeah, but it's like, man, that dude watching him, and I'm looking I'm seeing myself and all these parallel stories too. It's that like when he wins, I feel like I want a little bit kind of thing right, And I think that's how y'all feel when I win. It's how I feel when y'all win, because I feel like we all kind of started not at the same time, but we were all at the same place around the same time.

01:18:36
Speaker 2: All hungry, y'all like trying to.

01:18:38
Speaker 4: Figure it out. He just moved to Austin about the same time y'all were busting the boat, and that's when it really started, you know till Tony's been going, but it's when it started growing the legs and getting bigger. Then we watched the bus grow. I've watched the same thing happen with Schultz when me and Schultz wrote Open Her Up in twenty twenty. You know, he was doing two nights at Zannies min Schultz doing arenas everywhere in America something multiple nights.

01:19:03
Speaker 2: He's a too murdering, Yeah, murdering.

01:19:08
Speaker 5: He even talked about knowing him doing all the rest and everything else. He's doing it for the audience. That is like a part of his show. He knows there's there's so many people beyond the walls of it. Some of those jokes feeling uncomfortable, which is what we love, is like you're sitting in there, like, man, you gotta wonder what the temperature is in that room when these jokes are being said. But uh, he talks about it through that lens, like about how much of a of a game it is like in real time, like being an athlete on the field. And he's from Youngstown, Ohio, so we were connected with yeah, which is already a poor Ohio's.

01:19:43
Speaker 2: Got a couple of shoutouts on this podcast.

01:19:44
Speaker 1: Man, he says, he says he runs his operations Detroit. Actually loved Detroit, my favorite place.

01:19:53
Speaker 5: Literally, But he was saying how he runs his operation like a college football team, because you got the stoops, the Polini's that grew up in youngs on a very hard nosed town. But uh, he was cool man, super nice dude.

01:20:03
Speaker 4: He's and he's an old school he's a comics comic. Two every night he's at that comedy mother Ship and he's downstairs after a set, smoking a cigarette, talking to carry the bartender at Mitzi's and running back material with the boys. That's awesome, Like I get to sit in there and watch it every time I go. I've got to go, I think four times this year already, just because we've been out there so much for different for the awards, and I spent a week out there for the CMTS. But I've alread you know, it's just he's just who he is. He lives it. Yeah, I love people that live their craft. That's why we're all drawn to Ernest Or. Y'all are drawn to me like people who are like I love old school music men too, like them dudes that show up in boots and dusters and hats and they just look dirty and they'd be like they've been playing guitar for twenty years straight.

01:20:47
Speaker 2: The best guitar players are there.

01:20:48
Speaker 4: I love those dudes. Yeah, I love people that truly live their craft.

01:20:52
Speaker 5: You can tell his life is dedicated to that style of comedy for sure.

01:20:56
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's incredible. To me because when you were talking about meeting Tone and I was like, yeah, it's crazy this thing he did just blew up, and you were telling me it was eleven years. I'm so I fell a victim to seeing something that's now popular and not realizing how long it took to get to that point, which is so many things. I feel like casual fans of whatever don't see right because he.

01:21:16
Speaker 4: Is no he is ten year overnight success stoor.

01:21:21
Speaker 2: Yeah, the ten year overnight, ten year overnight success story. It is crazy, man.

01:21:25
Speaker 4: It's it's it's which is funny because it's fun to see you in that business now because y'all two came from the opposite business. Yeah, I guess it's what's it's still kind of the same though y'all played football for fifteen years for free, you know what I mean, before y'all went on for it to change your life and every way it could. But it's like the meat of your career is that twenty one to twenty nine, where like they say, an artist doesn't hit his actual peak until he's like twenty seven, it's like the artistic peak, you know what I mean. So it's just it's just it's just a different game. Man.

01:21:58
Speaker 2: It is a weird world.

01:21:59
Speaker 1: It's weird transitioning worlds too, like going from one and then now doing this.

01:22:03
Speaker 2: I'm playing football forever.

01:22:04
Speaker 4: It's all you know, you're half a decade to the ten year grind. Yeah, you know what I mean. It was absolutely But you're already getting big calls, cool calls, really cool. I'll tell you what. Five years in, I wasn't getting cool calls. I can tell you that no cool calls were happening five years in for me.

01:22:22
Speaker 2: We will see, we will need you to watch. Yeah, it comes out.

01:22:25
Speaker 4: I'm in. I'm just I'm supporting you in general. But whatever, you know me.

01:22:29
Speaker 5: Speaking of cool calls, our agent's on the way over. He's like out of breath, sprinting around here for oh is he?

01:22:35
Speaker 2: Yeah? One on the other side. I had to bite a food. Oh so hungry. I had one took as climb. What's up over? He loves you? I love you.

01:22:45
Speaker 5: He's sprinting around the heir like once it was I saw the group chat when I was taking a piss and it was like all right, He's like, hey, I landed all the head right on over and stuff like that, and Steve was like, okay, all good, take your time. The boys are in the middle of an interview with Jelly Roll and everybody's just hitting the chat like, oh, Cline's gonna lose his mind, and he's like, I'm out of breath trying to get to my uper.

01:23:03
Speaker 4: I I want to meet him. Was what he represents y'all on the book a lab book inside or he represents the Busting brand in general? Wow?

01:23:15
Speaker 2: Yes, best friend. Yeah yeah, he loves agents. Yeah yeah, our deals up, we got we got it's contract.

01:23:24
Speaker 4: Year for the contract, the contract about it solid man.

01:23:30
Speaker 1: You kind of just do the content and then whenever the conversations come up, you just have the conversations. But then you got to put in your back pocket and just keep moving forward.

01:23:38
Speaker 4: Kind of media where a circle back. But you know me Andrew Schultz show, Yes, best show, best I've ever seen. And I'm sure he won't mind me stepping on this joke because I don't think he's gonna use it for his fescial obviously, but you know, he does kind of crowd work at the beginning of all this shows kind of what he know. Schultz is just a sharp guy. He's one of the best comedies comedians ever. And he came out talking about the Morgan wallence bit about you know, because it just happened. It was like the week up, and he was like, we're not mad at him though, right, he goes, because we don't really know who he was throwing that barstool at. He said, if he was throwing in a bachelorette party. He is the hero Nashville, neat you know what's.

01:24:15
Speaker 2: Not the one we deserve.

01:24:16
Speaker 5: But then we but just here in him, just how sharp sults is that he just bro he he just seems so knowledgeable and he understands like enough. It feels like in every area of life to where you sit there, you're like, how does this man come up with all of this stuff?

01:24:33
Speaker 4: Yeah?

01:24:33
Speaker 2: It wasn't a show, is it?

01:24:34
Speaker 4: Flagrant?

01:24:35
Speaker 2: That's his podcast?

01:24:36
Speaker 1: Yeah, bro, it is so good and he's he just had a CIA operative on there for sure, x CIA guy and they're going back and forth the whole bunch. You watched that little thirty second clip showing you.

01:24:45
Speaker 2: What the show is going to be about. Yeah, God damn, this is gonna be an awesome show. He does. He does a great job, very with it, very well spoken very curious.

01:24:52
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, he does a great job his hours. It's one of the tightest hours I've ever seen.

01:24:58
Speaker 2: You you did say it's the last hour you've ever seen.

01:25:01
Speaker 4: It might be the best I've ever seen. It's in the top five. I'm high, so I'm I want to get number one. Ever will hold it. It's definitely a top five for sure. Unseen when it comes out. I put it this way, there's two moments in it that I teared up. It's like it's it's a one man show almost. It's it was special, man.

01:25:24
Speaker 2: We had the shot to go when he was he was at the Ryman? Was he at the Ryman?

01:25:28
Speaker 4: He was at the Grand opperry House. Y'all should have came. I came out.

01:25:31
Speaker 5: There was something happening that weekend where we weren't in town. Neither of us were because Derek posting. You know Derek, He's like, hey, you and the boys, you guys want to come out to shows the show. I was like, man, nobody's in town this week.

01:25:43
Speaker 4: Derek killed it that night too.

01:25:44
Speaker 5: Bro seeing even seeing him, he's he's been ascending, Like that's Darren Bates. That's like one of DB's best friends really and he was on when uh my time on the raw room. And then we're over at a J's house one night, just cutting up and he's telling Sirius where he's like talking about siris and scary movies and seeing like him and who's his uh, who's his like co host and his show and I'm putting this on the spot there. But seeing seeing those two at that moment in time and now seeing the circles that they're in, like the circles that Derek talking about Derek because Derek has a pot too. I know he kind of said, don't he sit in now on shows the show he's like part of the crew.

01:26:23
Speaker 4: Well he's been he's him and have been together for a while.

01:26:26
Speaker 5: Yeah, but seeing him in all those circles and then Rogan Tony Tony was bringing him up. Uh, It's just like it's it's cool to see because everybody in that community is like, you're one person removed from everybody.

01:26:40
Speaker 2: Man, who is this guy Derek posting? Go ahead and bring it.

01:26:45
Speaker 4: He's a hoot and a half man.

01:26:46
Speaker 2: He was on here, dude.

01:26:47
Speaker 5: He was on the back of the bus when Shaub was on with a Chandler and I that want that the very first time in summer.

01:26:53
Speaker 2: You're number one.

01:26:54
Speaker 4: He was in the back.

01:26:57
Speaker 2: Dude, He's yes, he really is.

01:26:59
Speaker 1: He.

01:27:00
Speaker 5: I met this here and matter of fact, the Shaw when we went to see Shaw butt Zany's posting was one of the openers.

01:27:07
Speaker 2: One of the three.

01:27:08
Speaker 5: Yeah, one of the three openers. No, he's super funny and it seemed like he's like, you know, ascending.

01:27:14
Speaker 4: I'll tell you another good hour to watch right now on Netflix is Brian Simpson.

01:27:17
Speaker 2: Brian Simpson pull him up his lab from.

01:27:19
Speaker 4: The Comedy Mothership. It's the first one that He's the first one that came lave from the Comedy Mothership. He's one of the first ones to move down there. I got to say.

01:27:27
Speaker 2: So.

01:27:27
Speaker 4: The cool thing about this was it's on Netflix. I got to experience him in the club the first time, and he stole the night like I left. He had a bit. I won't say it because it's on a special that he said. I heard it one time that night and I've told it a thousand times, probably to anybody who will listen. It's one of the funniest bits I've ever heard. He's just the one funny bit. It's the whole The whole special is great. But he had a fifteen minute set on The Ron White Show, the first time I ever seen him. Yeah, and I thinking about that bit, you know what I mean, That's what I left thinking about.

01:27:57
Speaker 1: I wonder what those headliners think when they have a guy like that who just kills you really want them on your show? Yeah, people walking away not thinking about you, thinking about them instead.

01:28:06
Speaker 4: No, dude, they love that though. It makes them step it up. I seen them talk about it in the green rooms. Really, it's the most comedians I heard. There's a lot of competition in comedy, but I've only experienced the groups of people that love each other. So when they're like, no, trust me, comedy is not always like this, I'm like, it's all I've ever seen. The homies. Yeah. My truth is the twelve friends I've made in comedy all love the funk out of each other, work together, boost each other up, and are all damn near arena acts, now, you know what I mean.

01:28:37
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's got to be high school you think.

01:28:39
Speaker 4: All the music, right, it's like this, Nashville's high schoolers. There's artists that you got clicks. There's artists that are you know they're the homies. Songwriters are the same way. They're kind of all right with the same people. Don't let somebody in and out every now and then a rent, but it's all clickie, you're right all high school. Then you kind of hate on the circles that are not in the circle.

01:28:56
Speaker 2: It happens. That always happens, Jillie MGK prime example.

01:29:01
Speaker 1: Yeah, right, not in the same circles at one point decide to hate on each other.

01:29:04
Speaker 4: Yeah, not even on each other. I was the hater. The sad part was I was, yeah that it was all me, you know what I'm saying.

01:29:13
Speaker 2: Yeah, damn. He's like, you guys gotta squash this beef. And MGK is like, what are you talking?

01:29:19
Speaker 4: He's like, why does this guy hate me?

01:29:21
Speaker 6: You know what?

01:29:22
Speaker 2: He did? Get all those like all black tattoos? Yeah, black to that what.

01:29:30
Speaker 4: I probably butchered this right now, but I think it was somebody from maybe not Limp Biscuit, but uh, I don't know. This has been happening. This is an age old rock and roll thing. Ronnie radkeep my buddy from following. The reverse has blackout tats. There's another big band that does it. Twenty one pile paints. There's a bunch of bands that do that on stage, that just paint. It's a thing what he did it for. And I appreciate this, And I don't know. I don't want to share his story. I'll let him share it. But this was more about a him. He's transition. He's like, that's not the word in this climate.

01:30:04
Speaker 1: Ye, definitely, he's making a big change in his lifeition.

01:30:10
Speaker 4: Don't do that to each He's making big changes in his life. He's like really trying to become a new person. He's he's kind of been that. I remember when I did it, you know what I mean. He's done it before, but he's shedding that last bit of that that old mentality away. And I think that was something to do with his tattoos.

01:30:28
Speaker 2: People a couple of years ago. Yeah, the right body.

01:30:33
Speaker 4: I think the first time I seen Ronnie do it, I was insane. But hey, you know, I can also tell you I've thought about doing it. I hate so many of my tattoos. Not everybody had the privilege of like getting tattoos they love. Like we were getting scratched on and Motel sixes from a guy that made one album D one out of a guitar string and a boombox. You know what I'm saying. It's like, you know, some of these tattoos suck.

01:30:59
Speaker 2: You know what my tattoo this is in town?

01:31:02
Speaker 4: Yeah, next one in town next week, next week? Does he do cover up? Well?

01:31:06
Speaker 2: Do it? Yes? Man, I'm start covering up all that tribal and stuff like that.

01:31:11
Speaker 4: Yeah he can see. That's fine at all.

01:31:15
Speaker 2: Yeah.

01:31:15
Speaker 4: Look, I'd let him do anything because I've thought about it too. Man.

01:31:18
Speaker 1: I think it kind of goes there's parts of to me, I wouldn't get the tattoo, but I think it kind of looks hard.

01:31:23
Speaker 4: I think it's guys, No, not at all, bro. I would love to hear the story.

01:31:32
Speaker 2: Behind the Will has gotten you. Hear me Will Hasten.

01:31:36
Speaker 4: Reverse He's got him too, And I hate to make you do this. Catmond's blacked out, like if he's.

01:31:43
Speaker 5: Trying to like cover up tats, there's also the procedures where you can get it removed. You know that shit hurts.

01:31:47
Speaker 4: So he went blacked out too. I mean that is a neck on that thing.

01:31:54
Speaker 2: So man, you think that goes hard. I think certain spots like I think like have you had a piece of your form that was all blocked out.

01:32:02
Speaker 4: There's another rock man that's I don't want to think. I don't think it was, but.

01:32:07
Speaker 2: He's got the body type.

01:32:09
Speaker 4: He's got.

01:32:12
Speaker 2: Big peace body type.

01:32:15
Speaker 4: Is that tray Cyrus, the tray Cyrus blackout too? I haven't been on social media in a while. Looks like tray Cyrus over there to the left. Is that Trace? No, it's not.

01:32:22
Speaker 2: Jesus Christ say, hey, that's spooky.

01:32:27
Speaker 4: That's what that is. I forget who it was.

01:32:30
Speaker 2: I don't know about the body minds.

01:32:32
Speaker 4: And I'm telling you, twenty one Pilot there's been a lot of bands that paint for like uh like show, so that's kind of always been a rock and roll thing.

01:32:38
Speaker 2: Twenty one Pilot's car Radio that song that music video goes so hard.

01:32:43
Speaker 4: Twenty one Pilots slap Spirit. Yeah, they're just fucking dope. I love it. An m C and a drummer Like what a cool little two man crew? Do you know what I'm saying? Gangster a school just like Yo, we don't need a lot. Their productions always crazy?

01:32:56
Speaker 2: Is it nuts?

01:32:57
Speaker 4: Their production?

01:32:58
Speaker 2: How much thought projects do you put into that with your product tons?

01:33:00
Speaker 4: I'm doing my first real arena tour this year. I've done arenas and amphitheaters last year. But because you're going from an arena to an amphitheater, there's only one way you can build a stage in an amphitheater. It's the stage. They're all pre built. Yeah, there's no you can't, you know what I mean. Like, so, because I'm doing all arenas now, I've got to like make some cool decisions. We'll talk about loft camera, but I've got to make some like that whole arena becomes a canvas for you to a degree, you know what I mean. Like you've got a sixteen twenty thousand seed arena that you're like, I can put a stage here, I could put something up here. I could do something here. I can have a light go here, I could you know, It's like it's cool. Did the butch down when you got that golf cart to go the other side? Yeah, he's got a ship. He's got to get that I hit to pop up with the boom.

01:33:43
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm that did go crazy?

01:33:45
Speaker 4: Man? What else? What else? Yeah?

01:33:47
Speaker 2: What else?

01:33:47
Speaker 4: Are you working on? The album? New music? Like I told y'all, new music most important thing I want to talk about if I I'm I need to start talking about music again. I've been talking about I told the jelly roll story for like two years because nobody, you know, I was introducing myself to the world, and then I got now I get caught up in like the headlines and like what's happening currently, Like I need to start talking about music. It's time to start really talking about music.

01:34:13
Speaker 2: Yeah, with it with your new album? Like how close are we?

01:34:16
Speaker 4: Man? It's done. I just need to figure out what songs I'm keeping thirty songs. Yeah, I's been done. I just don't know what song I'm putting on it. Yeah, I'm that is there.

01:34:26
Speaker 2: Is there like a number of range that you want to I want.

01:34:28
Speaker 4: To do like twenty something this year because I think Morgan had it right. I think Morgan's feeding the consumption the right way, you know. I think that they dropped thirty six songs last year. He's already teasing new singles, dropped like a four pack on YouTube? Did the post single already? Like it's the song of the summer that or the.

01:34:47
Speaker 1: Song we were banging that on the way back to Atlanta bang people hate on it too.

01:34:56
Speaker 2: He just played east On basement, right, yeah, good, which is good for him.

01:35:02
Speaker 4: I'm proud of him to have the song of the Summer, the biggest dream song in America right now, and to still go out and play clubs. It shows your integrity, yeah, because it's like he knows he's got to learn the road. He's a great guy, y'all. Text me about him and I didn't know him much at the time, and I was like, I don't know, And then I got to really spend some time with him at the ACMs. He is He is a great, great guy, like young, charismatic, just handsome, fun, just good energy. So we the ACMs, we end up at this after we had a little party after and uh, you know, I'm old school man. We do the no phones thing, yep. So we're in there just you know, you know, we're doing our thing, right, We're having a good time. And there's a moment where I look up and it's me Camee Brown playing against Jason Alden and Post Malone and beer pong for like ten k or something, you know what I mean. Like it's like a real game, and the whole the bar is full and everybody's there and I full disclosure and I had to shared this shit. I had never played beer pong, right, I mean, I didn't go to college or nothing.

01:36:07
Speaker 2: Gave you don't know how to play well.

01:36:09
Speaker 4: I knew something most people. I knew Post was really good, and I knew Kane was really good. And then I had to decipher as to which one was more competitive, And in my heart, I knew it was Kane because Post is just a real love not the knees, not a loving guy. But Post is just like a real like you know, he's a competitive guy when he plays, but he's fun. Kine is a fierce competitor, you know what. I I didn't come here to have fun. I came to fucking beat you. You know what I'm saying. So I was like, I'm a Caine, you know what I'm saying. I'm in on this. And Kane was like Post is good, I'm good. Al Dean's mid, you're mid, And I was just like, all right, I'll take me in. And I'm thinking I don't have never played, but I don't have disclose this right, And I got the picture because we Al Dean's photographer took a couple of pictures, but it ended up being. I don't even know how I got Bunny Traill. Oh, Shaboozy, That's how I got here. So we're playing, We're having the best night of peer bark, and Shaboozie's just he's like the life of the party. He's cutting in and throwing for posts. He's just fun. Everybody instantly loves him, like he's got that natural walks in the room and you're like, I like this guy. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. It's just naturally that thing, you know, Like he's a great guy. Man.

01:37:15
Speaker 2: Did you end up winning?

01:37:16
Speaker 4: K Yeah, but Kine did. Fuck, I didn't do anything an I made three out of thirteen or something. I did something. Kine carried me though. But the next game, Kane stepped out and Shaye Mooney stepped in, and I dropped like eleven cups. Once I figured out what was going on, I bald ship. Yes, I I'm instantly good at it. I don't know what it is. Maybe it's just, you know, maybe I was just high enough. It's just a lazy enough sport that works for me, you know what. It's just fucking that.

01:37:43
Speaker 1: I've never heard of being played for ten k It's a real thing. It happened, and I knows he posted like a game show.

01:37:49
Speaker 2: At one point he was playing beer games of people.

01:37:52
Speaker 4: Him and Kane, where it was almost like watching a different language be spoken, like the way they would talk about the cemetric of the game. They'd be like, uh, He's like, you get what you want to use one of them? He's like, yeah, but I want to do a two three one two, and he would set the cups up. You know what I'm talking about? Sound stupid, fire solid, real time. I haven't told it. They're gonna learn this.

01:38:18
Speaker 2: Let me get it.

01:38:18
Speaker 4: Let me get a zipper, Let me get a zipper with those they're gonna learn this. Watching this, I had no clue what. I just went along with it, like, yeah, for sure, never played in my whole life.

01:38:26
Speaker 1: There's these brothers on Instagram ones they did that the little side. I think, Yeah, they do a whole deal about beer pong and how they all the aggressive setups you can do, but the three two one two give you that your mother's daughter.

01:38:37
Speaker 4: Yeah, those cups to those cups. We did a Mario flag, Yeah, there was a good one. A Mario flag was a fun one.

01:38:44
Speaker 2: What is that?

01:38:45
Speaker 4: I don't know two and three, I don't remember, dude. I listen now, keep in mind, I'm learning this like like are in the morning after. I just want a fucking award. I'm cranked. Yeah, you know what I'm I'm fucking I have the lights are all but nobody was home.

01:38:59
Speaker 6: You know.

01:39:00
Speaker 4: I'm definitely one of.

01:39:01
Speaker 2: Those what's the marrow jack?

01:39:04
Speaker 4: What's the Mario flags?

01:39:06
Speaker 1: Gotta be the three with two extra, like if there's five, you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, okay, I'm gonna take that.

01:39:16
Speaker 2: Back, a little pinty flag. That's a nice Mario.

01:39:18
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, I said, because Cane called for it. Okay, give me the Mario flag. And Post looked disgusted, and I was like, this is deep, this is this is deep. Right then I looked at al D and I was like, I hope al D knows as much as I know. And I could tell he knew some ship, and I was like, I really don't know what's going on.

01:39:36
Speaker 1: Keep it close to your vest, though, because close give you heard him give them the Mario flag.

01:39:41
Speaker 4: Coffee.

01:39:42
Speaker 2: Yeah, it sounds like we should reach out to Cane and Post Malone. Yeah, game for beer Olympics. Excuse me, games keep calling it the b We can't call the BO no more now. Well, the real O is this year, so I feel like there's some copyright things. Yeah, they can really come after it since it's so official Build Beer Games Championship of the World.

01:40:02
Speaker 4: Yeah, how do y'all feel about it? I know y'all had some drops, some come some go. How's it balancing out?

01:40:07
Speaker 2: I think based in the last couple of years, and how we're gonna release it, How we're gonna roll this one out. Yeah, there's a lot of it's gonna be. It's gonna be so much more than just drinking.

01:40:18
Speaker 1: Like the first night, there's gonna be the gambling, the Dana White, the Tunnel of Chaos type vibe.

01:40:24
Speaker 2: We have it themed out, yeah, like we're doing the whole.

01:40:27
Speaker 1: High Roller room and we're like's all busting with the boys, all all that stuff, So it'd be really cool. And then obviously your concert at the end, Yeah for sure.

01:40:35
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's gonna be.

01:40:36
Speaker 2: The Beer Games will be out there by that pool.

01:40:39
Speaker 4: Everything.

01:40:39
Speaker 2: Stuff's shrubs getting put in.

01:40:42
Speaker 4: Oh dope. So you'll happen at the pool and then they'll clear it out and let patrons in.

01:40:48
Speaker 2: Patrons and let them get after it.

01:40:49
Speaker 1: Yeah, we just have one little section of the pool. The pool is still gonna be public, but it'll be high enough so people can't see in. It's gonna be a nice little setup.

01:40:56
Speaker 4: Yeah. I love Red Rocks. Anyways, there once y'all, because I went to go meet you, and then I meet you at the other spot. But I went in there and one immediately Yeah, me and Cody exposed when in there and at one, Hey, that was trying to chase that.

01:41:08
Speaker 1: Where you at all, I'm a red Rocky coming like, yeah, I'm coming three hours. Then it hits me, Hey, come to Caesars. I was like, all right, I guess Jelly's not coming. Literally getting the car im.

01:41:18
Speaker 2: Halfway to Caesars.

01:41:19
Speaker 4: Hey, where you at?

01:41:20
Speaker 2: I just got here, dude, this is where I'm att Yeah, so we can't met us up time today.

01:41:28
Speaker 4: Yeah.

01:41:28
Speaker 5: I was gonna say we were joking about the times and stuff in our group. Chay, yesterday you said like we got twelve thirt and expect one or twelve.

01:41:34
Speaker 2: Expect we'll go at twelve. I'll fully expect to twelve.

01:41:37
Speaker 4: Yeah, early call early.

01:41:40
Speaker 2: How was your changed?

01:41:41
Speaker 4: No, just the routine when you wake up has changed, the routine has changed, and and I'm what I am now willing to do is I used to be totally anti this, but days like today, I sacrificed a little sleep to make sure I got my morning in. Yeah, and I'm okay with it. I used to be like sleep is more important than that. I was like, you're gonna die in your sleep?

01:42:05
Speaker 6: Yeah?

01:42:05
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like nah, losing weight for yeah, let me fucking quit making that. I'm eating the cookie, Like, oh, I got sleep.

01:42:13
Speaker 2: You know, you know whether you have enough back. It's a legit, like a religious thing for you. You got to do it every single day.

01:42:24
Speaker 4: I love that. I'll take like one day off a week, or even then I'll still do one of I'll probably do something, you know what I mean. Or I'll take one or two days off. I'll take two to three days off the walking portion, just because I'm still so big that if I try to walk six days a week, it would just beat me. The breaks so many pairs of socks. Yeah. The worst part is my wife put me on blast. She immediately commented under it when it was going viral. She was like, he also does this with shirts that She was like shirts and boxers, and that's all true.

01:42:58
Speaker 2: You love how Bunny just doesn't give a funk about the noise.

01:43:00
Speaker 4: Bunny doesn't care about that.

01:43:02
Speaker 2: She's maybe the number one savage in the world.

01:43:04
Speaker 4: Yes, dude, she's the greatest woman ever, and she doesn't care about She will first of all, she will clap back. Be careful coming for Bunny. She will fire. You know what I'm saying, said something about me. I thought it was the coolest thing ever.

01:43:16
Speaker 2: Bill Ma.

01:43:17
Speaker 4: Did you not read this? No, you'll pull up the New York Post what Bill mar said about jelly Roll. Please. I'm sorry not to tell you what to do, Jack, but this is fucking really and.

01:43:24
Speaker 5: Just knowing and going off of how bad as your wife is, like you, I have such that vibe about her to where I'm not even nervous when I text, like, Hey, we're trying to hit up jelly Roll. This is what we're trying to get done.

01:43:36
Speaker 4: What do you know?

01:43:36
Speaker 2: What can you tell me? She's like responding, Yeah, I'm about to go on the podcast. I'll hate you after it hits me after. She just handles her business.

01:43:43
Speaker 4: Bro, She's all business man. So he did a New York Post art article and in one of the headlines of it was no, that's not the one. It's it'll be Bill maher New York Post. But there's a quote in there where he says, we're all jelly roll now, we're all uh sloppy, complicated and contradictory. And I thought that was awesome because he referenced it to like eight fifty percent of Democrats, sixty percent of Democrats own a gun or live with a gun owner, and two thirds of Republicans agree for legalization in marijuana. He's like, at least jelly rolls honest about his contradictions. Yeah, he's like, so, the world's kind of my wish the world would be more like jellyroll.

01:44:28
Speaker 2: Well, you know what I'm saying.

01:44:28
Speaker 4: He was kind of saying, but like but but it was a real backhanded, fucking compliment, right.

01:44:33
Speaker 2: He said it in the mean way, but you think it a part of them.

01:44:35
Speaker 4: He's also a comedian. It's like miassaults laughed about it. Becausesults like he said, you were like every man. I was like, exactly, I thought it was the coolest thing ever. You're a relatable guy in the middle. My wife immediately shot at him. She went straight online and lit Bill maher up it was and I was, and I was, I was like, you know what, I'm gonna let you do you. But I think he was right.

01:44:59
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna get in your way. But to be honest, I think it's all good. Yeah, did he had a good He's got a show too. He did one with Bill Burr and Bill.

01:45:08
Speaker 4: Yep, it's the next one down. You'll see it. Or did you say my name in that one? We're all jelly roll now, we're sloppy, complicated, and contradictory. Two thirds of Republican voters support weed legalization of forty one percent of Democrats owner live with someone who owns a gun. Miss Marvel is Pakistani. The winner of the last two NBA Dunk contest is white. The new Captain America is black, and Spider Man is black and Puerto Rican. So anyways, he won the dunk contest.

01:45:39
Speaker 2: Yeah, we got to put that up.

01:45:42
Speaker 4: We gotta take that.

01:45:44
Speaker 5: Anyways, dude, even to keep up with that dunk the Dunk contest, So yeah, that is sick that well, just saw two white guys went down to He's bringing towards that.

01:45:52
Speaker 4: Cooper. I got to go this year.

01:45:54
Speaker 1: White guys are making to come back in sports. Yeah, and as not any type of way other than hell yeah.

01:46:01
Speaker 4: Gonna come back and sport. That's not any other kind of weight.

01:46:08
Speaker 2: But that's kind of dope sitting here as a white guy. All right, Cool, we are athletic.

01:46:12
Speaker 6: I like that.

01:46:13
Speaker 2: We're not dying. We had a corner get drafted in the first round of the drafts. You see that? No second, Oh, you're right, because I forgot. We got to do Yeah, we gotta do. You gotta do bad?

01:46:23
Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought, man, I mean that is crazy that a corner is a white corner in the NFL. Right now, that's the crazy ship ever, the new world you're living in.

01:46:36
Speaker 2: We can't do about it. I get it. I'm gonna put this thing in reverse. We get the fun out of this subject.

01:46:43
Speaker 4: If we got away. Yeah, shout out Max Cross. That's what That's what I got for this segment. Shout out to my homie Max, no doubt, no doubt.

01:46:55
Speaker 2: So Pittsburgh's good, Cleveland's good. You hate the choice, Let's get into that.

01:47:01
Speaker 4: He defended. What else can I say? Told me not to say.

01:47:08
Speaker 2: Guys can't say words. Now, I don't step off of THEO before you pussing cubs.

01:47:15
Speaker 6: And I don't know if Will and Taylor saw this, but I guess Bunny caught Bailey sneak out on cameras and they're just like crawling through the grass.

01:47:23
Speaker 4: She's got like eight million views. Yeah, yeah, she was. She did a barrel roll like in the army. Yeah. This this my house is funny. Man? Is the just poo oop, little crouch tiger crawl?

01:47:43
Speaker 5: They think they're getting out of there, I really thought, and I watched the disappointment.

01:47:47
Speaker 2: Damn ye, Security's sending them right back home security.

01:47:55
Speaker 4: I don't know what she was thinking. So she gets down the driveway and he's like, Yo, the fuck are y'all going? I was saying, camera, he's so gangster that that he goes. I won't tell him till tomorrow. Get your.

01:48:12
Speaker 2: That is hilarious.

01:48:14
Speaker 4: Yeah, man, formula, it's a sixteen year old the farm.

01:48:17
Speaker 2: You know what you got cooking here?

01:48:18
Speaker 4: Five hundred acres? Me and Bunny just went to look at it. I actually was I just the call I was having while I was ten minutes later. I was here on time, but I was talking about this farm.

01:48:30
Speaker 2: I'm gonna snap it up.

01:48:31
Speaker 4: It's pretty much done.

01:48:32
Speaker 2: What are we gonna do with it?

01:48:34
Speaker 4: I'm torn, MANU the bus, Yeah, wherever y'all want. The way it's divided is there's three ridges divided by two creeks like this, an upper and a lower, and there's three entrances to the property. I think the side with two entrances, I'm gonna build a family compound. And on the other one hundred acres I'm gonna subdivide and make a you know, make a play.

01:48:59
Speaker 2: No shit, you better go off that property. Huh. I think so, Hey, that is nice.

01:49:05
Speaker 4: I think so got some beautiful man some hunting land out there. Man, five hundred acres. Cop, Dude, I cried, it's unreal. It's like, I mean, that is the dream. That is unreal.

01:49:15
Speaker 2: Man, that is awesome.

01:49:16
Speaker 4: I had. I have a rich uncle. His name's Uncle Befford. Man. It's been really good to me in my whole life. He just made really good decisions, owned a dry cleaning company, saved his money. Right, he bought like four or five hundred acres in Williamson County thirty years ago. So you know what that's worth now? Crazy? And when I was a kid, the first time I ever shot a gun. I went and shot it there, and I remember leaving and leaving and I asked my father, I go, man, how come we don't have one of those? He was like, well, just just wasn't in our cards. But if you ever want one, you just got to got a plan for it, make the right financial decisions to get it. Then, ever since then I wanted one. I was one of farm killed my first quail out there, learned how to ride a four wheeler out of that farm. You know, my dad, Me and my dad go out there all the time. And Beautiford didn't even live out there back then. It was something else he believed in. Was like he bought the farmers the dream. He just let it, you know, had like a little farmhouse on He was just like one day, yeah, you know, and now him and his wife live out there and that's where you know, the end of their life there in their late seventies. But it's really cool. So yeah, just getting to do it was like, yeah, this is it. But if I keep being successful, I'm gonna build three or four houses in the studio and move my whole family and have a little jelly roll neighborhood and then I'm on the other side and make a little play.

01:50:23
Speaker 2: That's awesome, man, man, it's cool.

01:50:26
Speaker 4: It's cool to see Bunny get excited. When we pulled in, she was like, it's kind of lacklesser. She's also from the desert. Yeah, like I want, like, you got to remember that you're from Texas but went to school in Michigan.

01:50:38
Speaker 2: Arizona, Michigan.

01:50:39
Speaker 4: Yeah, Arizona went to school in Michigan. You know a little bit about the desert, so you get this too, Like, but you got to see more of the green side of America. Yeah, she grew up in a desert, you know what I mean.

01:50:48
Speaker 2: So like her.

01:50:49
Speaker 4: Still. The first time we did a show in Indiana, I remember her filming the trees because he was just like, yo.

01:51:00
Speaker 2: Know and just having all those bullshit pictures in your mouth a little bit of.

01:51:06
Speaker 4: So she kind of get in. But when we got up on that first ridge and it just opened up, it was like the light of God ah and she I just watched her. She said, oh, we gotta do this, And I was like, I told you, man, we turned the gator off. No noise pollution. Couldn't hear a highway, you know, you don't hear nothing but just nature, genuine nature. I was like, this is what we need. That's awesome, man, it's the dream. Baby.

01:51:31
Speaker 5: Before we get off here, anything for us to look forward to the CMA Fest, you're gonna make another speech.

01:51:38
Speaker 4: Well, I can tell you this. At CMA Fest, I'm gonna bring out a guest. I'm gonna have a real special set. It's gonna be my first time playing the big stage at the stadium. Last time I got to play the satellite stage. So it's gonna be a really, really really big thing. And we're playing Saturday. We got the best night. I'm hosting the whole thing for TV and Ashley McBride or we're hosting the because they do c M A fes becomes a TV show and we're hosting it.

01:52:04
Speaker 2: No ship.

01:52:06
Speaker 4: Call the other day. Our scriptwriting call is fun. It's cool. She's fun too. I don't know if y'all ever met Ask mccravat. She's a real bad ass.

01:52:13
Speaker 5: I don't think I have not met her, unless that maybe as you've been in one of the softball games, because we'll be doing that. Actually, by the time this comes out the day after we had a great we had a great time.

01:52:25
Speaker 4: This was a great week. So this is c M a fest week My I don't think they're live stream my set, but it will be on the show portion that will come out in a couple of months. And if you're in Nashville, come see at the Stadium all weekend. It's a really really come see us Nissan Stadium. Uh, jelly roll hardy. I mean, dude, I can't even remember the lineups. Insane. It's it's c M as the biggest lineup on her a banger. Come out to Keith Urbans, crazy nuts cycle, his whole news, his whole new project is awesome. He literally does it the way he wants to do it. It's so cool to watch you at Kelsey Brothers, Osborn, Cody Johnson, my boy, Cody Johnson. He's fucking one of the greatest dudes ever. Ash McBride, Parker, Meghan Maroney, John Party, Carly Thomas, Rhnt, Keith Urban, Warren, Treey Laney, Bailey Zimmerman. It's big weekend. It is a big and there's a bunch of special guests you won't see that are all through out there.

01:53:23
Speaker 2: Man, what's that Tennessee?

01:53:25
Speaker 4: Uh, I don't know if there are any of any of them are from Tennessee. I think these are awesome Georgia dudes.

01:53:32
Speaker 2: Trying to figure out who could be that lineup?

01:53:35
Speaker 4: This is like, my guest is different. I got a different thing going on. But what the festival itself does? Guess like there's people that are gonna come out that you're gonna be like, no way, I thought this dude was gonna be here, no ship. Yeah, man, they do it right. How's it going to this? Since I was a kid, by the way, least call it fanfare and did it at the fair grounds. You just stoodn't line and waited for autographs. You know, no pictures or nothing. You didn't have a camera. You just went up. They had the dude looked at you, signed his name and handed it to you.

01:54:03
Speaker 2: The best night in the statu that's all time.

01:54:05
Speaker 4: That is so cool.

01:54:06
Speaker 2: Man, talk to me about Ernest.

01:54:08
Speaker 4: Dude.

01:54:09
Speaker 2: We know Ernest has the most talent in the world. Yeah, when is my man gonna get his.

01:54:14
Speaker 1: Shot and be like triple platinum, no Number one song? When when's that coming from him?

01:54:19
Speaker 4: It's on the way.

01:54:20
Speaker 2: I love it.

01:54:20
Speaker 4: It's so close. Ernest is so close to it. As an artist. The thing about Ernest is is he serves two masters. Ernest is still writing the biggest hits we're hearing, you know what I mean. Yeah, But the thing about Ernest is he's still servicing hits to everybody else, you know what I mean. So he's serving two masters. He's still the go to guy in town to bring into a room if you need to get one across the line. Yeah, you know what I mean. So, and that's paying a lot of the bills too, So he's kind of struggling. I tell you what I am trying to do, And you should harass him about this. We should corner him. I'm trying to bring him on. Fuck it, I'll say it here. We are adding fifteen seventeen show to my tour. My first arena tour was scheduled to be forty two cities and they're already almost completely sold out, so we're adding like another fifteen. But this won't come out for another few weeks, which now y'all know though it's coming. But for those fifteen dates, I couldn't keep warning Alexander because they had already had previous commitments. For the extra seventeen it might be twenty dates between us. No shit, yeah, and uh so I'm calling Ernest like come, He's like, I don't. I can't tour the way you tour. He really anchors himself down into a normal life Monday through Wednesday, like he'll go write songs. But he's there with Delaney, they're gardening, he's with Rym and he's like super dad, super husband. He lives like he's like fucking you know Batman, right, you know what I'm saying. It's like and then he puts on the Batman outfit on Thursdays and goes and he's Ernest Thursday, Friday, Saturday where when Jelly Row leaves for a tour, kissed the Laney and Ryman or put him on the bus. But you're not coming home for forty five days. You know what I'm saying.

01:55:55
Speaker 2: It's like, I just do it right.

01:55:57
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. Ernest is like I can't do that. I was like being a puss. I'll have a nurse, we'll get ivs. You know what I'm saying. We'll be okay, all right, if I can do it, you can do it.

01:56:05
Speaker 2: So we need to corn him and get him on this get him be huge, dude, and I like.

01:56:09
Speaker 4: Do it with your friend, man, why not you do the reason he tours with Morgan, It's the reason I'm going out and doing five shows with Morgan this summer tour. With your friends, man, it's the reason I open up for air Church all the time. It don't matter how big I am, I want to go be with my friends.

01:56:21
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what I mean.

01:56:23
Speaker 1: Why in the from a game standpoint of music, why wouldn't Ernest start keeping those hits for himself.

01:56:32
Speaker 4: I think he's just got such a good flow over there. And I think Ernest ain't in a rush to be a celebrity. To be honest, I think Ernest is just like man, I'm just he's gonna do it his way. He's not gonna do any of the another part of it too, if we're gonna be frank with each other as the traveling you know what I mean, Like he's really he really is honest with me when he's like yo, man, Like I like being just a normal dude. Three days a week, I go right from nine in the morning to three in the afternoon. I stop by Losers and have lunch, drink a couple of beers, go home to my wife because I got a really cool thing. Then I can go be a rock star of my best friends on the weekends, you know what I mean. Where it's like I'm like, I'm like, oh, we're doing busting with the boys and stay cool. Well let's squeeze in Kimel while we're on that side of the coast, and let's do this while we're out there, you know what I mean. Like I'm just in constant, Like you know, I'm more like Burt Kreischer, you know, in constant go.

01:57:19
Speaker 2: Yeah.

01:57:19
Speaker 4: So I think Ernest is really cool just writing songs and and he I love that Ernest is willing to die on the heel of his own artistic sound. He doesn't want to make commercial records. He loves making old country, Roberts Western world kind of records. He's not looking for something to get played at Dirks Bentley's. He's looking for something to get played at Roberts. You know what I mean. He just got it. He just loves the old feeling of this old sad. I was listening to it last night. That record with him and Laney is just so old school country. I could if I would, but I can't, so I won't, but I won't to, you know what I mean saying like, just fucking what a fucking genius.

01:57:56
Speaker 2: You know he really is. So he's so talented and that's real, Taylor.

01:58:00
Speaker 4: They don't joke when Garth Brooks said he started that radio station so people could hear country the way it's intended to hear. I'm dealing with this now that I've become an international artist. You get outside of America, they immediately won't play anything on any radio station or play listing in other countries. It has a pedal steel on. It was that you got a fiddle or a steel guitar. It's just two country. Really yep, that's a true story. And Ernest his whole album is fiddles and steel guitars, you know what I mean. For me, it was like I took the fiddle off of Nita Favor and just sent it. I was like, okay, cool, we'll just send it without the done none none which is actually a fiddle with voices over it, but there was a fiddle behind it doing it and we from Needa Favorite, so we had to take it off or international radio was like we won't play it.

01:58:47
Speaker 2: Yeah, that is wild, all the all the nuances of music in the business side.

01:58:54
Speaker 4: Jack you got it?

01:58:54
Speaker 3: Tear talk, Yeah, that's your talk.

01:58:57
Speaker 6: There's a couple of options. One was so Round, which I fuck is just kind of a look hanging through like top three artists. I think we're better than that. Another one that we would have to take some time and think about. But you could create three fictional band names and then you give like an idea of what the band is, and then you rank them like hypothetically.

01:59:19
Speaker 4: Like you're like your favorite, our own made band. Yeah, that would be hard to talk.

01:59:25
Speaker 2: That'd be hard tear talk.

01:59:27
Speaker 3: I know that's something I we need. You might need a little more preparation for. Or you go best condiments, I believe it or not.

01:59:37
Speaker 4: I'm any one of those three can work for me. Let's talk and I've got three. I got three artists of all time that here's a question, James, Jim and Bob Baby, James and Bob.

01:59:51
Speaker 6: You can write a song with anybody dead or alive hit hit record number one?

01:59:57
Speaker 3: Who you take it?

01:59:58
Speaker 4: Dead or alive? There he's still living. I would love to sit down and watch the way James Taylor writes songs. Why is that it's just different man. You know, he taught himself the guitar, so he plays like weird shapes, like different shapes than most people play. And his his songwriting is just style has always been so abstract. He's just He's my favorite songwriter. Him, Jim Croachey, Bob Dylan, those are my favorite songwriters of all time. So I'd love to sit down and and I think he would give me more. I'd love to see how Bob writes a song. But I could imagine Bob kind of being tough, you know, just kind of He's so elusive and doesn't talk. I couldn't see him being really engaging. Yeah, where I could imagine Jim looking at me like, what do you think if we turn it around like this and we went you know, I'd love to hear how he structures out his song.

02:00:48
Speaker 2: What are your condiments? Will we can do condiments? I don't know if I'm ready yet, but I can be ready. Do you have yours?

02:00:53
Speaker 4: Do you know yours?

02:00:54
Speaker 2: I can probably my condiments? Tomaments is a muster Mayo.

02:00:57
Speaker 6: Yeah, we're not like Chick fil a song, like any like commercial kind of sauce. It's your strict condiments you find in the side of your fridge.

02:01:05
Speaker 2: Where do we stand undressing? Is that a condiment?

02:01:08
Speaker 6: I would say that if you're trying to put a ranch in there, I would I'd let that.

02:01:12
Speaker 2: All right, I'm ready. You just needed the rain, That's all I need to hear. Yes, absolutely, I'll go first, since we still working on it. My tier.

02:01:24
Speaker 4: Are you googling condiments right now?

02:01:26
Speaker 2: Will please?

02:01:28
Speaker 4: Don't?

02:01:28
Speaker 2: Please don't interrupt my process.

02:01:31
Speaker 1: But sometimes you ask you from the heap. My Tier three is going to go to the honey mustard. I think a lot of times it's a great dipping sauce. You can put it on a sandwich. It's got a lot of different lanes that can live in. Honey Mustard to me is fantastic. My Tier two is.

02:01:48
Speaker 2: Going to go to barbecue sauce. Just as long as we've all been alive.

02:01:53
Speaker 1: You get a chicken sandwich and you throw a little bit of barbecue sauce on it, You're just not there's no way to get better, you know, just a nice barbecue you can sandwich, boom in and out South which you can sandwich. There's gonna be a spicy barbecue on there. So many different varieties and taste and ingredients, whether it's vinegar or mustard or tomato.

02:02:10
Speaker 2: You have your bases.

02:02:11
Speaker 1: But barbecue sauce goes hard so much so that there's cults. Like there's Kansas City Barbecue, There's Texas Barbecue, there's Memphis Barbecue, North Carolina Barbecue, where everybody stands what's up Nashville Barbecue. Everyone plants their flag on the ground, they say ours is the best.

02:02:27
Speaker 4: What's your favorite barbecue?

02:02:28
Speaker 2: I was hoping you won't ask me that my favorite barbecue is gonna be.

02:02:35
Speaker 1: A a honey barbecue, Like I lean towards a sweet more than anything else. Also, I'm a big fan of the Alabama white, Alabama white.

02:02:47
Speaker 4: I think business alone.

02:02:50
Speaker 2: Yeah, and my tier one is going to.

02:02:52
Speaker 1: Go to my gods here, which is ranch. I think there's two kinds of people. There's people that enjoy ranch and there's people that are dead to me that enjoy bluchy. And those people can go fuck themselves disrespect, but disrespect ranches to me the best condiment you can have dipping.

02:03:09
Speaker 2: I love that list. Thank you love that list. My list. You're right, you're right, you're right.

02:03:14
Speaker 4: With the word.

02:03:21
Speaker 5: Electric, I gotta say, incredible, it's a good list. That's a strong links. It made me rethink my list. I'm glad you went first.

02:03:31
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that was my heart. That was purely me because I was gonna go ketch up Mustard mad Eyes.

02:03:38
Speaker 2: Yeah, but we would have said twelve. Yeah, yeah, I will say that. Oh yes, sorry guys, you boys opinion mouth watering.

02:03:49
Speaker 1: Oh solid, God, okay, okay, bitch bringing back solid huh mine, dude, this this is so hard, but you kind of sold me on.

02:04:03
Speaker 4: On barbecue sauce.

02:04:05
Speaker 5: Barbecue sauce was in my list, but it moved up one because of the range and variety that you have in barbecue sauce.

02:04:12
Speaker 2: You can do so many different things with it. So my Tier three is now going to be honorable. Mentioned Ranch. Ranch didn't make it. Cheese is on his tear talk. That's the end of the blue cheese.

02:04:28
Speaker 5: No blue cheese, listen, I fit with your mold blue cheese is dead to me. I hate blue cheese, but I do everybody talks about you get a mature taste, like as you get older, you start enjoying it.

02:04:38
Speaker 2: That's the thing. You can say my tier three based on how often.

02:04:43
Speaker 5: I use it is hot sauce. My Tier three is hot sauce. I feel like there's a variety of hot sauces, just like there is barbecue. But the fact of, like you know, using barbecue sauce with marionnade and just slathering ribs on it, all the different styles where you hit the different parts of the country. That is what put bararbecue sauce now at two instead of hot sauce. Because hot sauce I like to put it on stuff, but barbecue sauce you can you can kind of overdo it. So Tier three hot sauce, Tier two barbecue sauce. My tier one condiment my mouth watering just thinking about it.

02:05:15
Speaker 2: Mayonnaise. I love mayonnaise.

02:05:19
Speaker 5: Bro I love it damn near on everything, And I feel like it's a good foundational condiment that you can even create with other condiments, Like if you want an aoli, you're using mayo to mix it in there with sarracha. Hot sauce, you can mix it with ketchup. Love mixing mayonnaise with ketchup. But my number one condiment is mayonnaise, mayonnaise, barbecue sauce, hot sauce.

02:05:42
Speaker 2: Shout out to a ranch hyphenated plot twist Mitch Jack almost gritty Joe, you got a word to rate my list.

02:06:00
Speaker 4: I'm having to look up conniments now I see why you did it. It's actually plot twistings here. Yeah, kind of jogs your memory a little bit because there's stuff you're like, I didn't think of that as a condiment. It's actually really fire.

02:06:09
Speaker 2: That's what happened to me with the hot sauce, because that was one because you're a hot sauce line, I know.

02:06:15
Speaker 4: And it's the same argument of read your three to me again before I give you one word.

02:06:20
Speaker 5: My honorable mention's ranch. My tier three's hot sauce. Tier two is barbecue sauce. My tier one is mayonnaise.

02:06:28
Speaker 4: I'm gonna rade solid, rat solid, okayrat solid with the homie, that's a solid list. Pressure Before I start this Jelly Roll's favorite condiments, I've got to ask this question first because I just read a couple of articles and this is a big point of contingency that could change everything. There are people that qualify peanut butter as a condiment.

02:06:49
Speaker 2: That I almost can't allow that because that Will. I will lean on Will because he is a peanut butter.

02:06:55
Speaker 4: Die peanut butter?

02:06:58
Speaker 2: Have you ever been a peanut butter sandwich with chill dipped and chili?

02:07:03
Speaker 4: Peanut butter is considered a condiment the internet will With that being said, I gotta stand by my.

02:07:13
Speaker 2: With that being said.

02:07:14
Speaker 4: With that being said, boys, I'm gonna go in with Ranch number three because I think we can all agree. Ranch is ranch. I'm going to pick hot sauce over barbecue today just because I'm I'm I love a good hot sauce. But if peanut butter is foreshore a condoment, it's by number one by Country Mouths, the greatest condiment that was ever infitted ever. And this is a little deeper because if that's considered a conniment because it's spreadable, that also means nutella and everything in that family, all kind of nut butters.

02:07:45
Speaker 2: You know what I'm so, you're trying to claim all the nut butters right now.

02:07:48
Speaker 4: All I'm saying, listen, if we could claim the thirty different kind of barbecues, That's what I'm saying. Yeah, It's like there is you know, there's maple syrup, almond butter, there's cinnamon.

02:08:00
Speaker 2: It's like you know what I mean, dam have you ever had a peanut butter sandwich?

02:08:06
Speaker 4: Honorable mention. Here's a hot one till you're ready for this salsa.

02:08:09
Speaker 5: I want questions so bad. Also was on a couple of lists. I was even guacam guacam Oi is a little bit of a stretch.

02:08:17
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a side. Have you ever had a peanut butter sandwich dipped in chili?

02:08:21
Speaker 1: No?

02:08:22
Speaker 2: Like five insane? Bro, you love peanut butter like I think you do. You're going to love this, dude.

02:08:30
Speaker 4: You're gonna love that combination. The greatest sandwich ever, dude, I.

02:08:35
Speaker 5: Would rate that in two words, almost perfect. You didn't have mayo, so that's why I had the kind of but that peanut butter the top great pool. I'm sick about mine, but I'm proud of myself.

02:08:45
Speaker 2: I'm gonna take yours. This was a post of yours. It's a big days.

02:08:51
Speaker 4: It looks like it's missing a little peanut butter though.

02:08:54
Speaker 2: People in the sandwich is I put it on both sides.

02:08:58
Speaker 4: I put it on both.

02:08:59
Speaker 2: Sides in the ass in the middle, I'm just saying.

02:09:02
Speaker 4: Man.

02:09:03
Speaker 2: I will say I had a meal an hour before that, so part of me was a little already full.

02:09:07
Speaker 5: So were you probably you probably just ate that for the picture. Then I couldn't wait chili cooking. When I got home yesterday, it wasn't ready for two more.

02:09:15
Speaker 4: This was yesterday.

02:09:16
Speaker 2: Yeah, that photo yesterday.

02:09:19
Speaker 4: Yeah, that was yesterday. I love it. Man.

02:09:22
Speaker 5: One year I had charges, She's like, she wanted to cook for me, and she's like, what I want to make you whatever you want to have for your meal on your birthday?

02:09:30
Speaker 2: And I said, chili and peanut butter sandwiches. Simple man.

02:09:34
Speaker 4: Based that one. That one is Audrey's it, dude, it is.

02:09:40
Speaker 2: She dumped some cream cheese in it.

02:09:43
Speaker 1: Color by the way, cream cheese, sour cream. Yeah, could have could have easily been honorable mentions. I'll take yours.

02:09:51
Speaker 2: Incredible.

02:09:52
Speaker 4: Wow, cream cheese, cream cheese. Whoa that changes all the condiments.

02:10:01
Speaker 1: This is this makes me when hit that fucking pipe again, town on something crazy, I got something fired in what more for you always? Because that was that first started once podcast. I was on the moon for a little bit. I kind of came to and my pistol was like, where have I.

02:10:17
Speaker 2: Been for the last hour? I literally said, like, what have you done this past year?

02:10:21
Speaker 4: Yeah? For what it's worth.

02:10:24
Speaker 2: When we started it, I was like, man, this might be the shortest podcast, define we might just chill.

02:10:29
Speaker 4: You were like, so what do you want to talk about?

02:10:33
Speaker 2: And you know, You're like, you know how you have boys, are like, so, what have you even done recently?

02:10:39
Speaker 4: Everywhere? I'm sure you want to promote something. I do love y'all, man, and I loved when I get to come on here and hang out with y'all. Truly, truly, this is why this is always a no brainer.

02:10:52
Speaker 2: And bro, I'm sure I speak for all of us.

02:10:54
Speaker 1: I said, seeing your ascension has been We've been so proud about everything, even when you're documentary and Hulu came out and that was like the beginning of everything. It was. It's been so cool to watch you and just see the dude staying the exact same all the way through, and people seeing your personality and be able to appreciate who you are and knowing that person before all this.

02:11:13
Speaker 2: We're all proud of you. Man.

02:11:15
Speaker 4: Unbelievable.

02:11:16
Speaker 5: Nobody hesitates to drop a link whether Jack finds a tweet something where Jelly is popping off on the internet.

02:11:22
Speaker 4: Yo, dude, Jack has single handedly kept me relevant on Twitter the last two years. Seriously, anytime I have a jelly roll moment go fucking viral, I can always you know how you see where it goes back to, and it's always him.

02:11:36
Speaker 2: The very origin is Jack mcpheers very origin.

02:11:38
Speaker 4: It is always Jack.

02:11:39
Speaker 2: I love it, man. We appreciate you coming on. Yeah, I love you too, man.

02:11:43
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02:13:16
Speaker 2: Have a great day. Let's get back to this episode of Big hugst twn Kisses. All right, do you want to tell context first? So just jump back on the bus.

02:13:23
Speaker 4: Yeah, So, Bunny. But we'll just you can put this, y'all know hYP We just I don't want to tell this story because you asked about daughter Sweet sixteen. It's how to start it. Ten of When I was a kid, nobody came to anything I did. I was not a popular kid. I'll never forget. I mean, I passed out the RSVPs with the free candy in it to come to my birthday party. My mother would make a table for thirty kids. Not a kid would show up. Damn. I've carried that trauma with me my whole life. Right, So like when I announce a tour, I'm nervous, like, is this gonna be the tour? People quit behind tickets to give a fuck that I'm doing this, Like it really bums me out. Bailey comes to me and goes, I want to do it. We'd sixteen party comes to Bunny and I'm like, no, absolutely not, because Bailey's had a couple of parties that went similar to mind when I was young, and I was like, I'm telling you, man, we're setting this kid off for failure, Like we're gonna put all this money, You're gonna have this big party. And I was the negative voice tailor, and I want to share this story on this ponding with y'all because y'all are fathers. I hope you learn from this. I was so against it and kicking and screaming. It was so hard to get put together. She put it together, and then I was like, well, the good news is we have a big family, you know. But what I've learned is, and this is the hardest part of life. You can pay for the best party ever, you can plan the best party ever, and you can have forty five family members show up, but you can't. You can't plan on fifteen or sixteen year old showing up. You just never know, you know what I mean. It's like, so I was just so nervous for Bailey, and to the point I I mean, I hadn't been that nervous for something in a while, like stomach hurting the day of dude, it was a blast. I was so wrong. I carried that fear for four weeks, that anxiety for four weeks about this party. I was so stressed. I cried about it a couple of times. I was upset. I was worried for she wasn't getting no RSVPs. At first, I was like, this is just not going to go. And even then it was like a typical high school party. We walked in with like twenty RSVPs. So I was like, you know what, that's good, you know what I mean. But I was like, we just need to make sure we got the family here to fill the room up. Dude. By nine o'clock at night, you could tell the pen location was getting dropped. All you've seen was car after a car. It ended up with like hundreds kids from other schools. It turned to one of those parties.

02:15:42
Speaker 2: No shit turned into like one.

02:15:44
Speaker 4: Well listen, I left. How about that?

02:15:46
Speaker 1: I mean.

02:15:46
Speaker 4: I looked at my wife. My wife looked at me, and I looked at her and she was like, I don't think we got no business here. I was like me, neither. We had security there. I was like, we know they're not going to get too crazy, you know what I mean. I was like, let that run its course, dude. It was the thank you for even asking We got to bring it back on. Here was the coolest thing to see and experience. And what I realized early in the night was the real lesson for me was before one teenager showed up, the whole family was there and I was like, there's if not a kid shows up, it's going to be a great night, you know what I mean. Like it was just such a cool party, man, And it taught me a lot about not projecting. We accidentally project our shit on our children, right, you know what I mean? And I never really wrapped that and rooms still really young, you know what I mean. But think about this in the years to come, because at a place that I had fell short, I projected that on my own daughter, you know what I mean. And it was just really cool to see that turn around and actually be such a heartfelt moment and has a shameless plug. You can see the whole party on Bunny's Patreon

02:16:49
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