The Real Report - Mobb Deep's Havoc on remembering Prodigy, 2Pac Beef, Jay-Z at Summer Jam & Almost Signing to Puff & G-Unit

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Speaker 1: Crazy. That's deep. Many everything is crazy.

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Speaker 2: So you say that's all deep, It's cool, right, Okay, all right, No.

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Speaker 1: It's not a course.

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Speaker 3: Thinking about that, you guess.

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Speaker 1: Yes, the talk of New York Tony Yo.

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Speaker 3: It's the boy Uncle murder a k A jail Right now.

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Speaker 1: We got the top five dead alive rap group from New York City, Mall Deep and Rectipece Prodigy, and we got the top five best producer from New York City. And his mother makes some noise for ye. Man. Yeah, thank you, thank you man. Than appreciate you man coming through.

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Speaker 3: You're already rest in peace.

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Speaker 1: Prodigy marb Deep never dies shout the whole Prodigy family condolses the Prodigy, I mean, one of the best rappers from New York City. Definitely in the top five lyricists, Mab Deep, top five group. You know what I'm saying. We got a havoc here. We gonna get right into it. Man, how was overseas? Because y'all gotta understand, mab Deep never dies? You understand mab Deep never dies. I told him to call that that next album, that Mab Deep Never Dies. My man, just came off of forty was it forty forty country tours, talk about the tour.

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Speaker 4: Like that, not the tour.

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Speaker 5: It's crazy even celebrating the Infinite album, you know what I'm saying. We just put that out in November, so it was only right that we went out represent for mall.

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Speaker 4: Deep, represent for Prodigy.

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Speaker 5: Definitely know what I'm saying, And the feedback was crazy, man, like for real, for real life.

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Speaker 1: I mean, because how many years is now? I mean mab Deep was out before, given It before Uncle Murder before a lot of mother.

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Speaker 5: True, but you know what, like it don't necessarily mean that. That don't necessarily mean that if you make a new album that Nigga's gonna fuck with it, not even in Europe, like you know what I'm saying. Like, so if they if you're going out there and they singing the choruses with you on some new songs, like because you know I'm saying, I'm used to going out there, you know, singing Survival, Shook Ones and all that, you know what i mean class, And then sometimes you might do a new joint and they just be like this, you know what I'm saying, or because they.

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Speaker 4: Don't know the song.

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Speaker 5: It's not like it's not like they don't like it, but it's just that they don't know it. But they was vibing with us. So you know what I'm saying, Shout out to all the countries in Europe.

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Speaker 1: And when you went, you were, I'm gonna be he was in Germany, shout the storm, Shout to mal d. I think Lloyd was with you. Y'all was in Germany. I think y'all was in Stutgard. Name some of the places you went. Tell me you passport game.

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Speaker 3: To work, one of those.

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Speaker 4: Passeball game. I think one of them changed man. We was in Stull, God, we was in the gay area. We was in Prague.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you know of course, Germany, Paris, UK, Ireland, Sweden, Amsterdam, Turkey, Ship.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you know goes so I say, murder Mob Deep never dies. I remember being on tour and when fifty first sign mab Deep in mop and I remember the first thing it was like what you're thinking? I was like, nah, these are two classic groups in hip hop culture. What was that like for you when you had the twin Porsches acting the food? We ain't a management tool because I know you don't drink no more. You used to get wild on the next I know, I was crazy, how long you've been so before?

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Speaker 4: Now you know what I'm saying, it's been a while. Little I was saying, like.

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Speaker 3: Alright, congratulations, gradulations, thank you well when you stopped drinking, though, man.

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Speaker 4: Because you know why. You know, when you get older, you gotta focus, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 5: And then you know that ship don't be hitting like it was with you in your twenties and your the that ship takes like five days to wear off.

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Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: I'll be stuck to the bed like for like four days, and I got ship to do. But when we when we first got.

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Speaker 1: Something, that time on Inker Management, when you stood up on the pool table like funk, that man's my ship, nigga.

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Speaker 6: Fuck on, y'all niggas. Nigga, Yo, don't look I sweet a all it's worth? Did my father look?

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Speaker 1: Look he on a pool table, Fuck y'all, niggas, because when he gets drunk, he gets falling, y'all niggas.

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Speaker 3: Man drinking y'all. Damn.

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Speaker 1: Then my son just passed out and the security had him like a baby like that. I never forgot that. On You're time, I had a drink in my hand. I wanted to fight half that day.

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Speaker 4: He don't even what happened.

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Speaker 1: I had a drink in my hand and you crushed the drink in my hand like nigga, you drinking.

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Speaker 2: Trumk.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm glad you did that for me.

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Speaker 1: That pool taming your niggas. Man, Yo, get angry, bro, not drinking crazy.

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Speaker 5: I mean you know that that's that QB sip. You know what I'm saying. Like, you know what I'm saying. You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: We get our.

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Speaker 7: Drinking, know, yeah, right?

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Speaker 4: I mean you see the video with the head. You know what I'm saying that it was.

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Speaker 1: The handy waves when you really think.

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Speaker 2: About us, and you know what I'm saying, trouble.

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Speaker 1: I was on that handy earl.

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Speaker 5: See now I can't with that, you know what I'm saying, because that I don't even trust myself. God, you know, you know I'm like dad, like when you wake up and motherfuckers be.

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Speaker 4: Like I gotta talk to you, like I don't even want to fucking hay.

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Speaker 3: God know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: So you got to have.

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Speaker 1: Right now, have I was saying, I remember the first time before fifty sound, and we was in the studio with them, and it was wild because I forgot who was in the studio.

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Speaker 4: It was it was like forty of y'all.

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Speaker 1: It was like four. It was Me, Smurf, Banks Mad niggas. Right, So who was the two niggas in the niggain was it?

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Speaker 2: It was me, Gotty Gotty somebody else.

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Speaker 1: I forget. It was GotY and somebody. It was two of them. Yeah, And they left their weed on the table, left they weed. They came back. I'm like, yo, saying wiolent he went and took their weed, like whining, they weed and ship. I'm like listening, wowdy right, we in the studio mall Deep. He took the weed, and them niggas started arguing, like, yo, son, you touched my weed. Yo. That ship was the crack up. But I was I'm laughing. But I'm like, dang, were in the studio with mab Deep right now, because like the history of mall Deep is what I told him.

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Speaker 3: This is what they started arguing with each other.

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Speaker 1: They started arguing with each other like you took my weed. They ain't wanna thinks Smurk took it. But we were smoking the ship that she was sucked up. But you know, you know, you know how it was.

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Speaker 5: Y'all came to the studio, Fifth recorded the song Boom boom boom, he bounced and the weed was gone.

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Speaker 4: So we called y'all, and y'all made.

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Speaker 5: One of the niggas bring the weed back. He made he Fifth made the nigga bring the weed back.

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Speaker 4: I don't know if it was. I don't know who it was.

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Speaker 1: Because fifty tight and ship like that nigga tickets weed come on, man, he made, he made.

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Speaker 7: He made.

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Speaker 4: Niggas bring that hit back.

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Speaker 1: Niggas bring it back wild times like I was just played with the stork case stork dough. Do you know murder because Queen's get the money.

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Speaker 3: I love all the Brooklyn rappers and it got.

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Speaker 1: When you look at mob deep right like rest in peace, my man, fast shot d J Ruffians. I remember going to the club when Shook Wings came out. I don't care if you're a Brooklyn nigga, Bronx nigga, Staaten Island, Long Island, all them whoever, upstate, whoever. When Shook Ones came out, you knew it was gonna be like a fight or a shootout. Or someone was gonna break out like it was. It was like blood sport music, you know what I mean. I know they got songs called blood sports, But how did you feel when shook Ones came out?

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Speaker 3: I was that ship right there?

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Speaker 1: That was that How did you feel? I was like, what was your what was your craziest club experience performing shoot Ones? You're gonna say the tunnel, because y'all was around tunnel time. If you kids that don't know, you couldn't wear a chain in the tunnel. They being changed, niggas was checking your shoes, Niggas was getting thrown through security was thrown through, niggas through glass fucking doors. It was the wildest club in New York City for you Wayians that they don't know. But the tunner was was cool.

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Speaker 5: But you know, the tunnel was like you know what I mean, it was it was you know what I'm saying. You had to be your a game because Cruise was in there and all that. But when we performed shiok Ones in the tunnel, you know what I'm saying, it got a little wild and all that. But it usually be like out of state, the niggas just be wild and like, you know, what I'm saying, Like Minneapolis, Minnesota. You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 7: I was only nineteen when you got kid ones, right, Yeah, it was like that crazy you think about it, How did.

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Speaker 1: You get did everything come together?

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Speaker 5: Well, I'm at prodigy in high school, you know what I'm saying, the High School of Art Design, you know what I mean. I was in there one year before him, and then he came in next year, and I used to hear that nigga coming up. The whole of that nigga used to have like jury like Seleck wreck, like for real, for real.

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Speaker 4: I mean, like in high school.

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Speaker 5: I used to be like damn, like yo, who this nigga walking through like jury and nobody not fucking with him?

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Speaker 4: And ship, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 5: But we had, you know what I'm saying, mutual friends and and then we became cool. But he was a fly nigga even back in high school, like like like for real, for real, he was the wild one. He used to bring the crazy Horse to school. We'd be drinking the Saint Ives in the fucking cafeteria.

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: Like he used to be bringing all that ship to school. But yeah, that's my brother for real.

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Speaker 1: He was, so, what studio y'all? Y'all did Shook Ones in? How did that? That was the first song?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, So I made the beat Shook Ones in my crib in Queensbridge, in my mom's apartment. Yeah, I made that in there. You know, everybody outside playing ball and all that ship. I'm upstairs just making the beat and like, I ain't really think nothing of it, to be honest with you know what I'm saying. I'm a new nigga making beats and sh like that. So I'm just like, you know what I'm saying. I mean whatever. Niggas came up stairs like yo, what's that? I was like, you know what I'm saying, some some track about to you know what I'm saying, Turn the ship.

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Speaker 4: Off, little chill, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 5: We took it to the studio. We took it to I think Like Battery Battery Studios, because you know Records they had a studio called Like Battery, So we took it in there and he came with the hook and it was it was matter of fact, we did a Shoop Ones part one first, you know what I'm saying, and it was I you know what I mean, It was like, you know what I'm saying, this is cool, and so we needed to do a remix. And that's why I was like, you know what I'm saying, trying to make another beat for it.

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Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: It was Now when you look at the list, it was like three shook one because it's called chop Ones Part two. Yeah, shoop Ones part two. Yeah, But that was like the main one that was in the clubs, right.

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Speaker 4: Right, absolutely, absolutely.

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Speaker 5: So that wasn't the first one you made, Nah, I made I had made one before that.

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Speaker 4: It was just you know, just regular Shoper woe.

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Speaker 1: You made the second one. I know you was like oh.

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Speaker 4: Man, Like it was like like a like a dream come true. You know what I'm saying. It's like, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 5: You it's like if you're playing in the NBA and you're trying to get that chip, you know what i mean.

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Speaker 3: Caught one with that Sho record was like, oh.

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Speaker 5: We we from were from the ground, from the gutta, like you know what I'm saying, and we made a fucking his song.

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Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: That's going crazy.

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Speaker 1: Aloud always say Havoc was Kanye West before Kanye West, because it's rare that you got a rapper that rap and produced like Kanye, you know what I'm saying. Or you're just numerous or Swiss, you know what I mean. But like it's it's so many beats half there's not even like a top five for beats. Like when when I when You Need to Give It Up came out with the scar Face Ship. So it's like, like what I'm trying to tell you, it's not microwave music. This is music that lasts forever, like Michael Jackson and marm you know it lasts forever, like Slick Rick and KR res One. So it's like I just said, they came He came off for forty date countries date Rest the Beast without Prodigy. You know what I'm saying now, If Prodigy was here, Rest p of Project, if Prodigy was here, it would be your fucking problem. Marm Deep went through eras of hip hop when New York wasn't glazing. I'm gonna keep it real. I'm not saying they're glazing now, but you had niggas like Haitian Jack running around tut running around. It was extortion kings out this motherfucker. You know what I'm saying. The Tunnel was a movie, you know what I mean? Talk about the era of like the beef with Tupac, when you know Snooping the man l A l A. Did they come to did they really get shot out of New York?

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Speaker 6: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: In Brooklyn, Brooklyn. Yeah. And then y'all came out with l A l A. Because that was the original.

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Speaker 7: I was happy when y'all came out with that l ALT Like nobody in New York wanted to do nothing at that time, right, I was so happy when.

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Speaker 1: Let me finish ahead, just let me finish. So when LAO, when l A l A came out, gentlemen, gentlemen in la When l A l A came out, y'all, like you said, y'all was the only niggas that said something. The beat was crazy and Prodigy Tragedy KaDee was on that one.

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Speaker 2: You niggas.

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Speaker 1: All we knew is Snoop came to l A got shot at So that was like, yeah, that was y'all. Was in between the East Coast West Coast beef before Poking Big How was that? And Pop this, you know he when he did Michael Velly, was it Michael Velly? He said Prodigy had sickle cell? Yeah yeah, I mean that was like nobody knew Prodigy had sickle cell?

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Speaker 2: To hot?

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Speaker 1: Did it? What's the temperature?

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Speaker 3: Like?

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Speaker 1: What's going through? Deep had the niggas and Queeze Bridge and all the gangsters head where you were you.

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Speaker 5: That young, like nineteen twenty twenty one? This it is like fun to you, you know what I'm saying. You're like, well, come on, fuck.

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Speaker 3: It, let's get let's go, let's go. Yeah, like hop fuck it. When we see you, we see you like you know of you don't care about this, do you know.

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Speaker 1: What I mean?

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Speaker 4: So it was just one of those things.

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Speaker 5: I kind of like I figured that that beef was probably gonna get real.

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Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. If we bump heads, you know, because it's popped.

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Speaker 5: Of course, of course he older than us, you know what I'm saying, and like he's gonna be like, oh talk, you know what I'm saying. We got a thousand niggas with us. I know they got a thousand niggas with them. It just probably wouldn't have been good, Like you know what I mean, But it never happened, you know what I'm saying, ran never ever. I seen him once when I was like sixteen at what's that called Jack the Rapper or how to Be Down?

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Speaker 3: Before we was just you know what I mean.

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Speaker 4: I think he's on fourth for Broadway, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 5: Trying to get our feet wet. And you know you've seen Tupac because you know what I'm saying, he was even famous back then. In fact, you know what I'm saying, we just kids in the background and just like looking like, oh they go Tupac. And that's the only time I ever physically laid eyes on him. There's a picture online with Tupac and you see Prodigy all the way in the back, like word the mother like poor, yeah, pee in the back.

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Speaker 4: So we was in the same room with them and ship like that.

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Speaker 3: Oh look at that.

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Speaker 4: That's crazy. But even then, even.

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Speaker 1: Y'll on, Michael Velly, you know what I'm saying, because back then, we we we love that beef.

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Speaker 4: We love we love we loved it.

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Speaker 1: We love that static, we love that static. So so Biggie's Beef. Was that a pause? Huh, that's a pause? Now, Big what's beef beef?

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Speaker 7: If I'm singing on and we're going on today's rules and how things.

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Speaker 1: Go, that might have been, you know, and when's the pores me to come in for this guy.

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Speaker 3: I'm just saying, no, that was.

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Speaker 1: Pause producers saying that we love that static. Yeah, when you think about it, y'all best y'all was beefing with Tupac, Like when y'all in the studio and you chilling you in Queen's Bridge. I know, like you know niggas in it, like we gonna kill Pac. I know a couple of niggas like, can't wait to kill these niggas they come to New York. I know it was all kind of shit like because back then you was getting wrapped up into the action. Yeah, I got told you, mab deep. Look I'm on. I'm from one, three four and God brew up all. I was pitching all night. You know, I'm the type of nigga when everybody say they leaving, I get happy because I know I'm making all the money. There's no competition. So the whole boulevard was going with the Little Boys recipe, Freaky Tie, his brother Jay Ball b Wild. You know, all these all these niggas from one, three, four going to a show. When they come back, you know, nigga. A couple niggas got scratches on them. You know, my man sun Shine had blood. He had like a B B B B one of them BB belts. Before the time, it was like just some some wild looking shit, but he looked like could beat the nigga with it. He had blood on it. I'm like, you what happened? Niggas? Like we had to bro with mab Beef. So I would have been there if I would have went. I told him that talk about that deep Lost Boy bro. I was talking them on the phone.

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Speaker 5: You know, this actually was like our This actually was our first show ever. It was like our first show ever. And you know Lost Boys was on the bill. It was on twenty third Street. I never forget it. You know, everybody from the.

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Speaker 4: Projects happy, like, oh ship, y'all gotta gotta show. The whole Projects is.

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Speaker 7: Going, you know what I'm saying, Like the little Lost Boys at the time, like oh we about to do something.

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Speaker 5: Was just like, man, I can't even remember if I even knew who they was.

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Speaker 4: To be honest with you, I don't know.

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Speaker 5: Maybe, yeah, I think I heard of them because they was like from South Jamaica and all that.

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Speaker 3: So this before they had their record popper.

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Speaker 4: They might have they might have had, they might have had something out, but.

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Speaker 3: They had.

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Speaker 4: It was you know what I'm saying. It wasn't no beef between us and them. It wasn't no beef.

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Speaker 5: But it's that thing like right like Queens Fridge, Jamaica, South Side.

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Speaker 4: It's like it's a little you knew that, you know what I'm saying, it's a little.

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Speaker 7: Rain jacking really what they're doing, not that it's beef, but you ain't like.

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Speaker 5: Cousins, but like you know what I'm saying, like trying to outdo each other and ship because everybody knows South Side as Wow, you know what I'm saying, Like I'm niggas of Queens. But you know, but we still go out there and chill and hang out. I remember when time being out there, when we was on for Broadway. It was this place called the Nottington House. You remember that the Notington House. Some little party was going on out over there and we was in there. It's like fucking yo, go get the mic, go wrap on the mic.

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Speaker 4: And ship. Fuck you so get up there stuff freestyling.

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Speaker 5: We're basically in the back of forty projects or some ship like that, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: So we wrapped in. All right, cool, that was cool, Get off the mic. The niggas from Jamaica niggas went you bigga got on the body. There was like funk all that quez We all looked like were like.

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Speaker 5: Oh oh, but but when that happened, that happened, it was like, all right, I'm was talking about.

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Speaker 1: The Lord streaky.

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna talk about the I want to.

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Speaker 1: For your niggas. Back in the days, if I would have went.

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Speaker 4: Son, you would have had to know. You would have had to know.

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Speaker 3: Karate niggas would have beat you up.

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Speaker 2: No Karate nobody that we had Karate niggas.

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Speaker 4: Whatever we had, Karate niggas.

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Speaker 1: B Wilder niggas was crazy. Karate niggas too. Niggas. Yeah, they wasn't fun. They didn't come back that twisted where y'all beat up.

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Speaker 7: You just said they came back twisted and blood on the Let my man.

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Speaker 3: Have telling story. Man, you wasn't there, bro.

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Speaker 5: You know what happened. We performed or whatever it is. They performed but you know niggas from the projects. They still lingered around and probably one nigga monk one nigga and then it just was like a.

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Speaker 4: Battle royal wheel in the streets.

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Speaker 5: Niggas was cutting niggas, niggas getting cut back, and you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: It was just it was I already had bounced. I already had left because you know me, I just do the show, grab something out.

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Speaker 7: Any of your niggas come back a little bruised up, of course, everybody you know niggas come on them niggas.

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Speaker 1: It was niggas, niggas from my hood. Them little boy niggas was browlers. Them niggas wake up in the morning, drink devil springs and fight nigga every day.

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Speaker 2: Nigga.

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Speaker 8: It was, it was, it was kicking off.

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Speaker 4: I'm telling I'm telling that the nice girl.

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Speaker 1: You don't want trying to nigga.

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Speaker 2: I don't want to.

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Speaker 1: You have beat to stay, you don't have stuff happened to be. Don to look security. You know, big house. He's the size of the room that niggas.

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Speaker 9: Tohok me down and one of them closed before pause said he did something like he did some like something like he did some like sweet ship his man sweep me of course.

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Speaker 1: Around pause he did he just he had a nigga, damn Pause. My house is like four hundred pounds shady, shady eminem.

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Speaker 5: Right, there's no love, so I could have no love niggas back in but look, but look, but look to this day mad cool, freaky tar, you know what I'm saying, Mad cool to like, you know, bumped into them so many times, and for a long time it was just like beef for no reason because it'd be niggas from your projects, niggas from day projects. You know, sometimes the rappors be the cool ones and ship like that. But when it's too many niggas there, somebody gonna bump somebody and it.

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Speaker 1: Just be was queens Bridge ever cool? What's the other project bugging next next to Queens' Not that.

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Speaker 2: We was kind of about the niggas from Ravenswood and I'm.

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Speaker 4: Sure like a couple of ravens Wood niggas was there.

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Speaker 5: But you know what I'm saying, Like I don't know the politics now, you know what I'm saying, But back then it was it was kind of cool.

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Speaker 1: Jeensbridge and Ravens would still be.

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Speaker 4: I mean, you know, young I heard some story, but you know, you know, I don't know, you know what I mean?

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Speaker 1: But so how was the tunnel? You got any bros in the tunnel? How was What was the temperature like in the tunnel?

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Speaker 2: Like the tunnel?

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Speaker 1: Tell me the tunnel stories. I want to hear the shoop Ones first time performed there. I want to the second time I was in the tunnel. Did you see anybody get wrong? Because I know they had no change ship.

00:23:57
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean a couple of I mean, see, look, Chris Lighty was at the door, so we was getting in with it. Chris Lighty, Yeah, yeah, I mean you know what I'm saying.

00:24:08
Speaker 4: So he was letting us in with it, you know what I mean.

00:24:10
Speaker 5: So we was just cool, you know, we were chilling. Nothing, never really jumped off, you know what I'm saying. That I can remember, you know what I mean. But the tunnel was a dangerous place, very dangerous.

00:24:22
Speaker 7: Now talking about that back in the days the beef the Mob had with jay Z, Right, Paul, do you think that was good or bad for hip hop at that time?

00:24:30
Speaker 3: What do you think?

00:24:31
Speaker 5: I'm not gonna say it was bad for hip hop, you know what I mean, because you know, hip hop is a contact sport.

00:24:37
Speaker 4: Pause right, I'm getting it. I'm getting it.

00:24:48
Speaker 5: But for me, it was just like it was just kind of unfortunate because I'm like one of those people that I be hoping that niggas could get along and and and enjoy forces because other states be like that, you know.

00:25:03
Speaker 4: What I'm saying. They be, they be you know, they be you know what I'm saying, they be team, you know what I mean.

00:25:08
Speaker 5: And New York is like one of the few places that niggas don't be really together like that as a force because New York is so separated automatically soon as be born the Burroughs.

00:25:20
Speaker 3: You from Brooklyn, Queen.

00:25:22
Speaker 4: You know, like, you know, people don't understand it.

00:25:25
Speaker 3: You know.

00:25:25
Speaker 1: I don't know if Murder remember this, but this is how I viewed it. I feel like Prodigy and E money Bags rest in peace. E money Bags Peace. Prodigy was trying to debot jay Z that time on the radio. That's when jay Z had an artist called h money Bags you do your homework, and E money Bags was a gangster. Everybody know niggas him Homo and Troy we could take over the whole queens when they had them things in their hand, right, cool E money Bags was on the radio with and jay Z had an artist named h money Bags and Prodigy put him on the phone. It's it that how to Beef started the static.

00:26:03
Speaker 5: Nah, nah, that's not how to Beef started, but that probably escalated it, you understand what I'm saying. What happened was h like we was talking about l A l A. Right, We made the song l A l A and then jay Z did an interview somewhere. Prodigy saw it, and I guess they asked jay Z, you know, no matter of fact, jay Z made the song talk about like New York been sawt ever since Snoop kicked the buildings. But Prodigy felt like we wasn't acknowledged for making l A l A l A. If how could he say that if we made l A l A, you know what I'm saying.

00:26:38
Speaker 4: So Prodigy kind of took it personal, you know what I'm saying.

00:26:41
Speaker 3: And I kind of understand that because y'all did rep but y'all and we.

00:26:45
Speaker 4: Didn't really get no recognition for that.

00:26:47
Speaker 2: Like you got to be like a hip.

00:26:48
Speaker 3: Hop fan to know that y'all came back.

00:26:51
Speaker 1: The song ain't.

00:26:52
Speaker 10: Really you know, on the street, the streets, but you know, but you know what I mean like radio, I know what you mean on the radio like that.

00:27:04
Speaker 1: To me, it didn't matter because the DJs was grabbing it like once once snooping them had New York, New York, Big City of Dreams. Y'all came to y'all disc record was like maybe three four the maybe a week later, a couple of days later. So I remember my Man Recipees Ruffians had that joint Man l a l A Big City of your dreams.

00:27:25
Speaker 7: So that's crazy from there, That's what it was. They ain't getting no recognition.

00:27:29
Speaker 5: Right because then because because jay Z did an interview and then in the interview, no no, no no, they was interviewing Pete you know what I'm saying, and they asked him about jay Z, you know what I'm saying, and he just went off and he called j out his name in the magazine and then j called that and then that's when the takeover.

00:27:49
Speaker 1: And how did you how did you Where was y'all like? And how did you feel? Because the takeover was fine?

00:27:54
Speaker 6: He was.

00:27:56
Speaker 2: At anybody, I mean you know Jay's l you know what I'm saying, Well.

00:28:00
Speaker 1: How did you feel like you that nig of course like.

00:28:05
Speaker 5: That, you know a though, that's it just felt crazy because we was overseas when we heard about it and the sum the jam screen and all that ship, and we was like looking at each other like you already know what it is like we got to get in that booth and just go crazy, you know what I'm saying.

00:28:20
Speaker 1: So I think Jay was in dismolde at that time. That's when like, now, I know he's not saying this and everybody is crazy, but when you really think about it, Jay was the most disrespectful nigga nas y'all. You know what I'm saying. He went in got money stacks bigger than you, and then he had Hot nine seven Shote seven. They were he was letting him do what he wan he remember when he.

00:28:43
Speaker 5: Had the upper head, he had the upper head.

00:28:54
Speaker 4: That blackout.

00:28:56
Speaker 1: They didn't want to they didn't want to let him hang j And then you gotta think about it when when Jay put Prodigy on a summer grant on the summer gym screen, that was the first time a nigga really.

00:29:07
Speaker 3: Trolled something like that it was.

00:29:09
Speaker 1: That was the first troll ever. It was a ballerina. I got the pictures of senior.

00:29:14
Speaker 4: Yeah, that was crazy.

00:29:16
Speaker 1: Rest in peace to Pe. But people don't know his grandmother was like one of the most biggest dance.

00:29:20
Speaker 2: But that but that was the world.

00:29:22
Speaker 5: But that was old d though, because he wasn't even dressed like what Jay described.

00:29:29
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. But everybody jacked it. You know what I'm saying. He just was d with like.

00:29:34
Speaker 5: A Michael Jackson jacket on like all of us probably will you know what I'm saying.

00:29:38
Speaker 3: That his grandmother dance studio.

00:29:40
Speaker 4: But he but he but Jay, he milked it. He was like, oh, I see you ballerina.

00:29:45
Speaker 1: I see.

00:29:46
Speaker 2: But it wasn't it was it was.

00:29:48
Speaker 4: It wasn't like that.

00:29:51
Speaker 3: Bro.

00:29:51
Speaker 1: I know prodigy grandmother and Queens is one of the biggest dance teachers back in the days, and so I know mad people that family. Everybody went to the school. So Prodigy probably took some lessons or whatever. But how did Jay get the picture? That's number one?

00:30:08
Speaker 4: Easy, That's easy.

00:30:11
Speaker 5: No, not even not even money, not even money, because somebody that went to Prodigy's grandmother's dance school was really tight with that circle right there. Okay, really tight with that circle. So you kind of try to guess who that is. You know, I ain't dropping no names now, it's over now. But they went to the school and they was, you know, they was. You know, they was right in that circle. Because I told you, I said, come on, you already know how they got that.

00:30:41
Speaker 1: You know, somebody and his kid went to the school.

00:30:45
Speaker 4: Yeah the picture, yea yea, and they got that.

00:30:48
Speaker 1: So they went to the studio.

00:30:50
Speaker 7: It was a good it was a good chest, but it was it was definitely, you know, a good time at war.

00:30:58
Speaker 1: But I felt like Marl Deep was one of the classic groups in New York City at that time. So I feel like it kind of built Jake career when he was this niggas. I'm not saying he wasn't nice. He had ship, but come on, take Over. I remember when that came out. I was even on Springfield Bulevard. I remember when that ship. That was like a big disc record, like the Takeover. You know what I'm saying, you know, and then High ninety seven, you know everything.

00:31:22
Speaker 3: I don't want to hear that ship. I'm keeping it because you talk.

00:31:29
Speaker 11: That's my man, Nigga.

00:31:46
Speaker 4: REMSTM.

00:31:48
Speaker 1: You know what I think it's I was having one that any nigga would have cut right.

00:31:53
Speaker 3: You would have grabbed your fucking cup and said listen, nig.

00:31:58
Speaker 1: I like I like half cor think about it. Look you gotta look at this. Look at mad queens. Queens get the money. You know what I'm saying. You know I'm not acting like this is if if the best niggas in the game, if Tupac and jay Z get at you, what that means.

00:32:27
Speaker 3: That means of course, you know we know that we know it's.

00:32:30
Speaker 1: Snooping is getting at you. You the best. I'm here to talk about the history of Mall d for people that don't know they be for pop. They be for like when Park said he had sickle sell. We waiting on the p dis record in the mall, but we.

00:32:46
Speaker 5: Dropped Gym on them and that ship was a hit, and but was so crazy. He died like two weeks after that. He died like two weeks and the record was pigging up.

00:32:57
Speaker 3: It was definitely was picking up.

00:32:59
Speaker 2: Definitely he died.

00:33:02
Speaker 4: We just had to pull the record. Word that was crazy.

00:33:06
Speaker 1: So when you started making like what what made you start sucking with the MPC because I know you have the NBC back then, right yeah, yeah, yeah, So what what made you start? Because like you you're you're not regularly You're not like, you know, we have producers. You know, you got dudes that made what a Gangster?

00:33:21
Speaker 4: Right?

00:33:22
Speaker 1: He made that was like to me as big as ship even Punch, that made seductive. I feel like some some producers just I'm not gonna say they won hit. You say they want hit. Producers that we get that one record, it's still a big record given recognition. But what I'm saying is, how do you stay consistent? Like what's your thought process making a beat? Because you're definitely like top five in producers. You up there with Swiss, Timberlane, You're up there with Just Blaze, You're up there with eminem Like, Like what the what the fuck? Like, what's your process?

00:33:55
Speaker 4: When you getting that energy from the hood? You know what I'm saying?

00:33:58
Speaker 5: That energy is crazy, you know what I'm saying. So it's powerful, you know what I mean? When you uh trying to make it up out of somewhere, you know what I mean, and you focused and you're not going to parties and you're not doing none of that. You're just like, man, fuck it, I'm working on this music, so you know what I mean. That's that's how it came. So you make a ship ONMS, you make a survival, and you come with the next album, you make a hell on nerve, you know what I mean, and then after that you you make it. It's minds and Quiet Storm and all those things. It's just like it's momentum, you know what I'm saying, and you just you just keep going. And the reason why the MPC is because I love technology. See I didn't make uh the Ship One's Part one on the NPC, but when it was time to make Ship One's Part two, I was introduced to the NPC.

00:34:47
Speaker 4: And I just love that shit, like you know what I mean. I really loved it and I just used it with a keyboard and that you.

00:34:52
Speaker 1: Know, when you say part two, that's really part one, because the other one I don't really listen to.

00:34:56
Speaker 3: I don't listen to Probably you're part two.

00:34:58
Speaker 1: That's the man, that's the that's I was bugging when I was playing the other day in the car and I'm like, do save Part two?

00:35:03
Speaker 2: And I was bugging like it's a.

00:35:05
Speaker 1: Nobody know that until you look at the albums yo, you.

00:35:08
Speaker 4: Know what, you'd be surprised. You know that song by Big Pun what's that song? Uh uh? He got the song and he used Prodigy.

00:35:17
Speaker 7: Beware look yeah, yeah, that's look at that.

00:35:23
Speaker 3: Okay, that's crazy.

00:35:25
Speaker 1: Warning, beware, beware.

00:35:27
Speaker 4: I gave you fair warning. That's that's what I want.

00:35:31
Speaker 5: Niggas was listening to look at you, but we just needed something more bounce here, you know what I'm saying.

00:35:37
Speaker 1: So, so what was your What was the thoughts when you made choet Storm, because that's another one I was in my cred simple is that.

00:35:44
Speaker 4: That's white lines? Like my sugar Hill Game?

00:35:48
Speaker 1: That was crazy.

00:35:49
Speaker 4: I ran out, I ran out of samples. I was just I was like, damn, I.

00:35:54
Speaker 5: Listened to all the records already and I'm looking at you know, the sugar Hill Game. We don't know the beat, you know what I'm saying. We loved the song, but it's like you can't really do nothing with it. It's just like it's a record just just did.

00:36:06
Speaker 4: In your ass.

00:36:07
Speaker 5: I said, fuck it, man, let me just you know what I mean. So I put the record on. I said, what could you.

00:36:11
Speaker 4: Do to this? And I just slowed this ship down. Yeah, I slowed it because the record is fact.

00:36:18
Speaker 5: I just slowed it down. And then I got to try and keyboard and just did some keys on it, and I left it in the computer for like a month, no lie. And then P used to come to my crib every day, go down straight to the basement and just be listening to the beast that I made. I'll be upstairs sleep And I came downstairs.

00:36:35
Speaker 4: He's like, what's this?

00:36:37
Speaker 7: I was like, you know what I'm saying, whatever, I'm just confused about something too.

00:36:40
Speaker 3: Right. P was from queens Bridge.

00:36:42
Speaker 5: No, P was from Left Frack Left Rack's okay, copy, okay, but when he came to queens Bridge, I mean that niggas soaked that ship up like it's fun copy. I've seen an argument online somebody too. Motherfuckers was arguing with each other saying and I was from Long Island and he was from queensbe God, that's how much you know what I'm saying? He embrace because from.

00:37:09
Speaker 1: Him from yeah yeah rock Kim from Long Island too.

00:37:12
Speaker 3: And did y'all know nas before all that ship like.

00:37:15
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:37:17
Speaker 3: The whole thing took off.

00:37:18
Speaker 4: Like yeah, I knew no Sinse. I was about seven, you know what I'm saying.

00:37:22
Speaker 5: And we used to go to the same daycare together all of that, and then I hung back out with him when I was about like fourteen fifteen.

00:37:30
Speaker 4: We used to hang out ship like that. I knew his moms.

00:37:34
Speaker 3: So when I started making music and all that shit together.

00:37:37
Speaker 5: Well, you know, we didn't really make music together until like both of us made it, you know what I mean. He made it first, I made it second me and he made a second. And you know what I mean, I jumped on if he jumped on.

00:37:51
Speaker 4: If on um.

00:38:06
Speaker 1: Had to get at the ball. That's why I say I had to get at Come on, they was the greatest.

00:38:12
Speaker 12: You know.

00:38:13
Speaker 1: Let me blow.

00:38:13
Speaker 2: Shots at these niggas, you know what I'm saying.

00:38:15
Speaker 1: The blow shots at nas because Brooklyn was big, was big, y'all.

00:38:19
Speaker 2: Yet big and Ja.

00:38:24
Speaker 1: Big and j but niggas no queens. We like nas. We can't forget about component Oriega tragedy running ship at that point you had. But out of everybody tragedy, Cadfee all them niggas was fired. But the mab deep was like everybody know, like I said, a lot of niggas, even Brooklyn rappers, none of them really had Some of them Brooklyn rappers don't got blood Sport records. Like like Shook Ones was like when that ship came on in the in the clubs, because I've been in things. Gotta understand, I've been in every club that been shot of, every.

00:39:00
Speaker 3: Hole in the world club Corey pause to say.

00:39:07
Speaker 1: That was fun. Y'all got that when that recon was fun. But if we have but if we have a pole, and if we have a pole, if we have.

00:39:17
Speaker 2: A pole, pause, I can't.

00:39:24
Speaker 1: Shook Ones was real murder music. Like when that came on, it's time for DJs to pack up. You heard that, it's time to pack up. That's when you know, oh ship about to get shot up. These niggas in here, Oh ship's crazy, pack up the records, like you know, when that ship come on in the first it wasn't. And the thing that makes Shook Ones Hall of Fame killer record is because when that ship come on, that's when you start packing up. A lot of Brooklyn niggas don't got ship like that shot the fuck up trying to tell him that's fight music. Prodigy, Come on, Prodigy. He was on the same level as Jake.

00:40:01
Speaker 3: Jake.

00:40:02
Speaker 1: He got at because the best get at the best, Mob Deep Look. Tupac was mentioning him. Come on, nigga, the takeover was about the takeover. The takeover was his detours down. Illuminati got my mind sold and we didn't even know what Illuminati was back then. DJ, don't get me whacked over there because DJ's Illuminati, the Seiches Illuminati shit he be doing over there. But it was like Illuminati got my mind, soul, my body seeking society. Come on, man. Jay had to get at the queens niggas because it was the takeover. Keep it real. That's why he called it the takeover. Think about it. He got that NAS and Mob Deep the whole record.

00:40:44
Speaker 3: You back to that, my nigga. I'm gonna say you back to that. Back to that.

00:40:51
Speaker 1: All I'm saying is the best, look the best, had to go at the best.

00:40:55
Speaker 3: Of course, that's hip hop.

00:40:57
Speaker 4: Say compe sport, Yeah, it's competitives for competitive sport. Man battle tested, got classic battle tested. You know what I'm saying.

00:41:07
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame.

00:41:09
Speaker 7: So how how how has life been really a little bit as far as the music, ship and just everything overall, like without priject because I actually met his daughter one time.

00:41:17
Speaker 3: Shout out to his daughter. Yeah, all that shutter.

00:41:21
Speaker 7: How that whole transition been like still trying to make the music and know all that ship.

00:41:26
Speaker 4: Man is very very different. Like you know what I mean. It's like it's like night and day.

00:41:31
Speaker 5: Like you know, I'm still trying to do what I do, but you know, losing it's like not like you know what I'm.

00:41:38
Speaker 4: Saying, I lost my brother, you know what I'm saying. No matter what we went through, you know, brother's fight.

00:41:42
Speaker 5: Of course, of course niggas go through ship and whatever whatever. But you know, every time I think about it, you know what I'm saying, that sh.

00:41:50
Speaker 4: It fucked me up.

00:41:51
Speaker 3: Definitely.

00:41:52
Speaker 4: It fucked me up.

00:41:53
Speaker 5: Because you know, I lost my real brother and like kill A ninety ninety seven.

00:41:59
Speaker 1: I was killing black. He was a he was a crazy nigga because y'all said, we felt like we knew him.

00:42:03
Speaker 3: Because you youped him a lot. That's the fact that what was the ship about?

00:42:07
Speaker 1: What was the ship? What was the ship? I think when you was talking about the drinks take pain, y'all had so much like That's what I'm saying. All deep just got I'm still bumping off deep in the whip dog.

00:42:21
Speaker 4: I play that ship.

00:42:24
Speaker 5: The beat like and I'll be trying to tap in sometimes, you know what I'm saying, Like, think about you know, to talk to my nineteen year old self.

00:42:32
Speaker 4: Just listen to it real quick and ship like that. But yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:42:38
Speaker 1: Yeah, because your niggas made some hiss. The only one you didn't make was shout alchemists keep it through?

00:42:43
Speaker 4: Which one? Keep it up? And that was fine? That was that was yeah, that was fine, you.

00:42:49
Speaker 1: Know because you know how I be feeling like with production. I don't know, maybe I'm old school.

00:42:54
Speaker 2: I don't know.

00:42:54
Speaker 1: The beats was just different back then, Like it was like a nigga make a beat and nothing sound like that, like Client Stone. You know what I'm saying.

00:43:02
Speaker 2: When you did sounds like that like.

00:43:04
Speaker 1: You come on, man, you simple the ship out of scarf Face and Godfather like nigga. Nobody was thinking like that car yo and the skits was crazy. You see that nigga right there, he windows you hit him, hit him, pulls, hit him, hit him, puse hit him, hit him pulls.

00:43:24
Speaker 3: You want point you want point over here watching you want playing?

00:43:30
Speaker 1: That's how the skin.

00:43:30
Speaker 4: Is head ahead of.

00:43:35
Speaker 1: A fucking pause, hot dog guy, you gotta hear burger.

00:43:46
Speaker 3: A fucking pose. But what's that? What that?

00:43:49
Speaker 1: What? What's that?

00:43:50
Speaker 6: Dude?

00:43:50
Speaker 1: Was crazy?

00:43:50
Speaker 3: What's that?

00:43:51
Speaker 11: Dude?

00:43:51
Speaker 5: They be having all live but the Jamaican voice be in the back up, bud.

00:43:56
Speaker 12: Believe that believe it can't be pushings to real man.

00:44:06
Speaker 4: Wait, hold on, you got to say, will get this nigga?

00:44:09
Speaker 1: Everything? Like I said, beef with pop. That was crazy. So when you when you heard Michael Belly, do y'all like listen to the whole album when.

00:44:24
Speaker 4: Like, nah, I ain't gonna lie.

00:44:26
Speaker 5: No, I really I never even really at that time, I didn't listen to the whole album.

00:44:31
Speaker 1: But then I listened to the disrecord.

00:44:33
Speaker 4: I listened to this record. I listened to the disrecord.

00:44:35
Speaker 5: But I later on found out that he disosunged like four songs, like if you listen to the album, like like he was going in that's just the main one that everybody heard. He was if you go if you listen to the album, you're like, oh ship, Like he was like really pissed.

00:44:51
Speaker 1: He was angry y'all and Snoop was the first East coast West Coast drama. It was like, you know, you know how the West coast, West coast, best coast comes. Niggas l A is l A. They stick together, So Troy stick together. New York, we know we used to stick together, like you used to be New York for week. I feel like it was back like that a long time ago, New York. Anybody I'm talking about Rappers used to come back and in the mall deep days. Rappers used to come down here and get booked, not get greeted and all that.

00:45:23
Speaker 7: That's that's that's not sticking together. Because news came out here and got robbed. You're talking about. That's different, rob But niggas wasn't sticking together.

00:45:33
Speaker 1: But if New York go somewhere they was old, then New York is in the building. Niggas is wilding like it used to be.

00:45:39
Speaker 5: Like, but you know what the niggas did used to stick together, but it was behind the scenes ship that never got recognition, like like you know, Big and Knis they.

00:45:48
Speaker 1: Did each other.

00:45:49
Speaker 7: You never you start finding out years later, like just now, damn, you start finding out how cool it was but you never knew that Bigga put like this. Back in the day, you thought biggi nas didn't like each other. The way I used to look at it, it felt like it was competition where they didn't like each other. From the outside, looking at you would have thought they didn't like each other half. But you find out years these niggas was cool, pulling up on each other, all type of ship.

00:46:13
Speaker 4: In the beginning the record in the beginning, in the beginning, Yeah.

00:46:16
Speaker 3: Then they do a record for somebody, No, it wasn't.

00:46:18
Speaker 7: They never had They never had a Biggie nized they never had a I was thinking about Shaq, but who Shack had to get on the record back in the day after that Biggie Nigga, he got bigger, but he had somebody else on it as well.

00:46:31
Speaker 1: He didn't have on it.

00:46:33
Speaker 3: It wasn't.

00:46:33
Speaker 4: Now, I think he had two people wanted and never did a record exactly.

00:46:38
Speaker 3: That's what I'm trying to think, that he's the only one that did.

00:46:41
Speaker 2: It might be, it might be it might Biggie.

00:46:45
Speaker 1: I don't never know record with biggians never had a record now.

00:46:50
Speaker 5: But on the Shock record, Shaq got two artists together that never did.

00:46:52
Speaker 3: That's what I remember from back in the day.

00:46:54
Speaker 4: It's something like that.

00:46:55
Speaker 1: I don't remember it being nas. I would remember that consumer the connois saw it's shut up, yea yea. I would on one song, but they was on one song. Here you go, What the fuck are y'all talking about? What you're talking about?

00:47:12
Speaker 11: It wasn't one.

00:47:14
Speaker 1: Biggie and Knobs was on the tonge together? What never heard of that? Which one?

00:47:18
Speaker 4: Which one?

00:47:19
Speaker 1: You're saying it wasn't on the album? But they wasn't on one song? But they they never was. None of them was on the song. Biggie and Nobs was never on a song together.

00:47:27
Speaker 3: Brother on the record? Who wasn't Shack feature with what? Because he had two people on the same.

00:47:33
Speaker 1: It wasn't Nobs and Biggie Nigga. I would have heard that record.

00:47:36
Speaker 3: Yeah, Shack feature with Biggie and who.

00:47:42
Speaker 1: If you're talking about that making that ring you can't stop their bring Yeah, but that's on the album.

00:47:48
Speaker 3: Well you know what, Yeah, you might you might be.

00:47:50
Speaker 1: I never did a song with Biggie. It was a little something there. You know how you just don't want to talk about it about it? A lot of think about it. A lot of niggas was mad at nahs in mall Deep. We ran the game. Queens ran the game at that time, like Jay and Jay and Big they came, but come on, mab Deep was so marb Deep was before Big, right, y'all was y'all Blew was Big all around the same time. No, no, no, no, Big.

00:48:21
Speaker 4: He came out first, but we was out before jay z No.

00:48:24
Speaker 1: But Big had party in bullshit? What year? What year was party in?

00:48:28
Speaker 4: Ninety three?

00:48:30
Speaker 3: Nine four, five four?

00:48:32
Speaker 1: And what years shops came? No?

00:48:33
Speaker 5: No, no, no, it was nine three, and then Biggie came out with his album in nine four.

00:48:38
Speaker 1: What what year that shoock Ones come out?

00:48:40
Speaker 4: Nine five? I mean nine four? My bad four nine four.

00:48:44
Speaker 1: And you said biggi album came out in nine four.

00:48:46
Speaker 5: His album came out of nine four, and then we came out with shook Ones in nine four.

00:48:50
Speaker 1: I thought shiock Ones came out before.

00:48:52
Speaker 5: That nine four, And then we came up with the album innine five.

00:48:56
Speaker 1: You ain't a crooked son, You just shook one. That was that ship man, Yeah, because Queens was running ship nas and Jay you know now Biggie and j.

00:49:05
Speaker 3: Was on Queensland, Man, Queens.

00:49:08
Speaker 1: Brooklyn Brooklyn had Big bigg Why do you think Big have a record something there?

00:49:18
Speaker 3: That's the competition, that's the ego.

00:49:20
Speaker 1: You don't know how them balls. Biggie had balls. But if Nas and Big was on the record, that's a debatable who got the best verse ship That's a real debate.

00:49:29
Speaker 3: Of course that was That would have been a debate back then, man, of.

00:49:32
Speaker 1: Course, because you had a song with Jay which was a classic twenty two Brooklyn Brioklyn Finess.

00:49:39
Speaker 3: Brooklyn.

00:49:41
Speaker 1: How was you feeling on the I for Now because that was the b Broah Brooklyn fins. Don't go like that.

00:49:49
Speaker 3: No, No, you talked about Brooklyn finans. That's what jay Z and Big.

00:49:53
Speaker 4: Oh that one yo.

00:49:55
Speaker 1: But how was it you you produced out for Now too?

00:49:57
Speaker 3: Man?

00:50:00
Speaker 5: That yeah, yeah, yeah, I made that right in the studio, right in front of everybody that's right there.

00:50:05
Speaker 4: Made the beat real quick.

00:50:07
Speaker 1: Did you produce more money more murdered mohammicide? No, I don't think so.

00:50:13
Speaker 4: No, I don't think so. I don't think so. I might have, sure, I don't know. I gotta I gotta, I gotta hear it. You know what it's a lot of beasts that I did that.

00:50:22
Speaker 1: I being your scarface bag on that window because we was watching that ship every day.

00:50:29
Speaker 4: We was watching that ship every day. We was watching it every day. So I'm like, Yo, this intro sounds crazy. Intro sounds crazy.

00:50:36
Speaker 5: So I made the beat in my head Benita apple Bone drums, scallface beat.

00:50:40
Speaker 3: Let's do this.

00:50:43
Speaker 1: Anita apple Bone is like such a classic from Queens. Another one. I remember when that ship coming in the clubs back in the days, That's what I'm saying, Like ship once that like those like I don't know man, just for music. It was just a crazy times to be a young nigga in the club man and them Ship's come on. Like I'm telling you, niggas getting a fucking eight ball Jackie stolen and ship. You know what I'm saying, Niggas get wrong for that ship. Wants that ship? Oh come on, shun to all the killers in one hundred dollars balls that ship. Come on, nigga, niggas did you because I don't been in parties and see niggas shuth side off side. I remember being in parties like that, like nigga would be a whole bunch of South Side niggas, north Side niggas, Americ niggas or whoever. I've been in the house parties like that getting kicked in, you know what I'm saying, Because because every it was a lot of DJs around my way, Shorty Black, my Man Lows Troy. They used to DJ mad parties, you know what I'm saying. So shit used to be. I remember a party on one two seven America. That ship came on and I'll never forget that sh two all the killers in the hand of the shot shot niggas, nor shot niggas, shots bringing off nigga.

00:52:00
Speaker 7: Y'all heard rumors before back in the day, y'all was supposed to sign with Puff.

00:52:04
Speaker 3: That was true.

00:52:07
Speaker 1: I mean we we.

00:52:07
Speaker 4: Used to know dead ass. We used to like.

00:52:13
Speaker 1: Right bad, I got everything is now.

00:52:19
Speaker 3: I don't give a.

00:52:22
Speaker 5: Back and back and back in high school, me and he used to be like, you know what I'm saying, going to check Puffs.

00:52:28
Speaker 4: Sometimes he had a club called.

00:52:30
Speaker 5: Like it was like Daddy's Night, Daddy's House. You know what I'm saying, some ship like that.

00:52:39
Speaker 12: I thought, you know, I just trying to say too much.

00:52:56
Speaker 1: Crazy. Soon as.

00:52:59
Speaker 2: Soon as out.

00:53:02
Speaker 4: As soon as I said it, I see his eyes looking at it.

00:53:19
Speaker 1: That is nice.

00:53:19
Speaker 3: I'm like support.

00:53:26
Speaker 1: He was about to be in shiny shops like he was about to be. Man.

00:53:33
Speaker 4: He had a he had a he had a club night. Man, you know what I'm saying. He had a club night. We used to go there, you know what I'm saying, and chill.

00:53:40
Speaker 5: Then we used to go to his record company and ship like that, and he wanted to sign us. But you know what I'm saying, the deal wasn't right. You know what I mean, The deal wasn't right, and we ended up signing to what for from Broadway maybe or something like that.

00:53:56
Speaker 4: That's that ship was whack, and then we signed with like yet like a year later.

00:54:01
Speaker 7: That probably was the best one of the best decisions y'all y'all made was not probably signed with Puff correct, Yeah.

00:54:06
Speaker 5: Because you already know he liked to control what the artists do as far as the music, how they look and.

00:54:12
Speaker 4: All of that. We from the project, like, you know what I'm saying, But I'm not. I don't, I don't. I don't think we would have listened to him, you know what I'm saying. Like, I'm just gonna be.

00:54:25
Speaker 1: Just on.

00:54:29
Speaker 4: Even like you we would have had what happened.

00:54:32
Speaker 1: What happens is for the first time, you might throw the outfit on like how locked it. I mean, listen, you're gonna be like, no more shiny shuits.

00:54:39
Speaker 4: Listen, listen like I mean listen. It could happen to anybody.

00:54:42
Speaker 3: For the bread.

00:54:42
Speaker 7: I mean, they probably did it because it made sense for the record whatever they were right at the time. That's why they did it, because of what they were shooting at the time.

00:54:50
Speaker 1: And to be honest what I'm saying, but it's back then. Look, but also the niggas they was known for that flaship cool Gie's you know all that flash, the shiny It wasn't the Locks image. So it wasn't It wasn't.

00:55:05
Speaker 3: It wasn't.

00:55:05
Speaker 5: It wasn't the maybe it yes, but but I would say this, it was of the time. What I'm saying, it made them.

00:55:14
Speaker 7: I didn't think it made them look crazy, right, it didn't make.

00:55:19
Speaker 3: Man what they're doing. It was cool and it looked.

00:55:22
Speaker 1: It looked at cousin on top. They still said no, they're the ones that said no shiny suits, nigga.

00:55:30
Speaker 3: That was classic At the end of the day.

00:55:33
Speaker 1: What I'm saying that was classic hip hop. But what I'm saying is did he would have had have it and being shiny suits?

00:55:39
Speaker 2: So I would think, so.

00:55:41
Speaker 5: We wouldn't wore it, We wouldn't have war, We wouldn't have been able to come back to QB.

00:55:48
Speaker 4: Come on, sir, we wouldn't. You know what I'm saying, not saying, not not.

00:55:52
Speaker 5: Saying nothing like nothing wrong with it. But I'm just saying niggas is critical, you know what I'm saying, like we.

00:55:58
Speaker 4: Wearing car hearts or all day.

00:56:00
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.

00:56:01
Speaker 1: Because when you think, you think, when you think about the Timberland wave, I know other I think somebody was saying they did Timberlands first. I don't know, but I know New York from New York Timblands. Right. When you think about the wave, it's like when you looked at you Nas and Prodigy, the army jacket kind of ship came from the army jacket with the line and the green ship like that ship. Like them, niggas had a style that was straight, grimmy, but fly. I remember getting I remember everybody got the arms the ten army jacket, green black with the ten Tims. You was crispy and they were starting waves.

00:56:43
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeah yeah, Army with right right to the Army and Navy Store.

00:56:47
Speaker 1: So that's what I'm saying with the Locks, That's what I'm saying with them. It's like, did he just had You know, Biggie was like the first fat nigga you seen really get fly besides pun you know what I'm saying, because that coolgie ship.

00:56:59
Speaker 3: Was on his last year. Oh yeah, that's right, heavy.

00:57:05
Speaker 1: He was. I can't rest in peace heavy D. That was one of my overweight lover that was you know, I mean is that a pause? Yes, that was one of my like no, I said, that was one of my favorites.

00:57:15
Speaker 9: Weight loves piece heavy is heavy D heavy.

00:57:21
Speaker 3: Damn.

00:57:22
Speaker 1: I can't even says resting piece heavy. But he was the first fat nigga. Or would you say The Fat Boys was the first fly niggas? You would consider the Fat Boys fly?

00:57:34
Speaker 4: I mean, if you got three movies under your bro, that's some fly ship.

00:57:38
Speaker 1: That So we said, yeah, you would say the Fat Boys was the fly for the Fat Boys.

00:57:44
Speaker 3: Fash wise, I wouldn't say they was on no fashion flaship, but that was earlier.

00:57:51
Speaker 12: It was.

00:57:52
Speaker 3: It wasn't fast. They was just they was.

00:57:55
Speaker 1: Just I mean, they was on the indeed this way they have little ship. They just was big niggas, you know, but Adidas because remember back then, Adidas was kind of bigger than Nike. Then Jordan and Nike and all that came because you know, run DMC shout to run DMC my Adidas. You know what I'm saying. That was like everybody's running to get Adidas. You know what I'm saying, Like how girls was running to get reboxed the good old days. You know, barbecues, not getting shot up, y'all, bush trips, motherfucker's dancing doing back and no, they was, but you know it was less shootings. Maybe one of two niggas had maybe twenty niggas had the hammer, but they would chill, right, they were chill. I'm just saying. I'm not saying, look, murder, I'm not saying, but what I'm saying that's murk, but murk. What I'm saying is there'd be times where niggas have beef and they wouldn't violate the good old I static and went violate facts. You know what I'm saying, so for me, I'm like, now it's like more violence. Like I remember going to backyard parties. Yeah, some of them got crazy parties, but it wasn't like as crazy as now. To me, it was crazy, but it used to be.

00:59:04
Speaker 3: They highlighted more because of these cameras and ship. But back in the day, ship was going down.

00:59:08
Speaker 4: Man.

00:59:09
Speaker 1: But if we ain't have a button, back in the day, it's different.

00:59:12
Speaker 3: Switchy, Yeah, it's a whole different thing.

00:59:17
Speaker 1: It was different, man, So have shout to fifty man, shout the fifty the boss. You know what I'm saying. I mean, how was it when y'all signed, you know, mab Deep signed MP sign. It was a big moment for Jeming. It we turned into a record label empire, you know, with the we was with the Greats. We went on the Anger Management Tour. I know y'all got the twin Porsches. It's stick shift for pause because I'm a stick shift pause because you didn't know how to drive stick shift.

00:59:42
Speaker 4: Now I learned. I learned on that car that fifth got us.

00:59:46
Speaker 5: I learned in like three days, word out and I became a pro at that ship. But back then, yo, you know, it was mad fun man. You know, Fifth called me up one day because we had got dropped from Jive and Fifth called me. I never spoke to him on the phone before in my life. He's like, yo, it's fifty. I was like, man, get the fuck out of here. He's like, nah, this is fifty. So then we started kicking it. He's like, y'all heard your free agents. I said, yeah, I fuck with you know what I'm saying. You got a hogher at Pe? You know what I'm saying, how that Pe? Next thing, you know, he's on G unit and like almost immediately he was sending us songs, mad songs. So we almost had the album done and then we jumped on that. What was that the mascotool?

01:00:27
Speaker 1: No, it was I think, yeah, it was it Incer Management.

01:00:30
Speaker 4: It was Incer Management because Eminem was there.

01:00:33
Speaker 1: Yeah, we had the busses with our faces on it.

01:00:35
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that.

01:00:36
Speaker 3: It was crazy.

01:00:37
Speaker 4: And that's around the time that p had the bulletpoop truck and all of that.

01:00:42
Speaker 1: He had the bulletpoof. Let's talk about that. He had the bulletpoof truck with the ham on him going down in one way. I think he was trying to get the Alchemist Condo right there on by Madison Square Guard.

01:00:52
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, so what was that?

01:00:53
Speaker 5: Like?

01:00:53
Speaker 1: I know Scott Leman was furious.

01:00:55
Speaker 4: Scott Leman ther, that's it was crazy because I already.

01:00:58
Speaker 1: Did you have a bulletpoop truck too?

01:00:59
Speaker 4: Nah? Nah, I passed on that.

01:01:01
Speaker 5: I was like, you know what I'm saying that it was a lot of money.

01:01:06
Speaker 1: Always said why him? Why he had to him in the bulletpool truck? Well it makes sense.

01:01:10
Speaker 3: He was like that, you know what I'm saying.

01:01:13
Speaker 5: He was like that, so you know he he got the uh, he he got the bulletpool truck.

01:01:20
Speaker 4: He's like, you have you get one? I was like, no, no, I'm good whatever. So but Pete always kept him on them, you know what I'm saying.

01:01:27
Speaker 1: And yeah, what was the what what was the first one of the singles with fifty? Remember was shooting the video on that l A. Do you remember that? What was that?

01:01:38
Speaker 5: That was the one with uh Buckle was on that give it to Me Baby, Don't play games?

01:01:46
Speaker 1: No, there was there was one y'all shot in l A. That wasn't it? Y'ad fifty forgot what it was?

01:01:54
Speaker 3: What was it?

01:01:56
Speaker 12: No?

01:01:56
Speaker 1: I was, I was I think.

01:01:57
Speaker 4: I wasn't out of control because out of control was in YO.

01:02:00
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I think I missed that one. It was one y'all did in l A. I'm trying to think what video was it? Mmm, because I never forget that. You remember when Rest in Peace, my man, pretty shy the girl came on set for the video with the baby. You remember that, she was like, shot, where are you? I got your baby? That ship was crazy back in the days. It was your video shoot with fifty.

01:02:24
Speaker 4: I remember that.

01:02:25
Speaker 5: I don't remember what song was because we did so many you know what I mean those videos.

01:02:30
Speaker 4: Man, you just had to be there.

01:02:32
Speaker 2: It was just so crazy historic moments.

01:02:37
Speaker 5: Do you remember that time when we was performing because we used to come out during the middle of the.

01:02:41
Speaker 1: Before did you fall through the stage?

01:02:42
Speaker 4: It was a fucking hole you fell through.

01:02:45
Speaker 1: The STA That was That was what Detroit? What's the Lion Stadium.

01:02:50
Speaker 3: Stadium always talk about?

01:02:52
Speaker 1: You're always talking about that. What was y'all doing? What was doing?

01:02:56
Speaker 4: I forgot what yo.

01:02:57
Speaker 1: Everybody was like, Yo, where the is having? Was on some ship? For my life? I think it was quite put table. Line y'all was doing quiet Start, Oh God, and Prodigy was up there. Half was up there, and we turned around, were on stage, and niggas was like, yo, where the fuck is having and the nigga fell through the black box the ship. Yeah you fell. Didn't tell that was that.

01:03:21
Speaker 3: It was scary.

01:03:23
Speaker 4: I could have died, Yo, that's it was, son, my nigga.

01:03:27
Speaker 5: The square was big, so we're performing and somebody was like trying to wave like yo, chip and then next you know, and you know what.

01:03:36
Speaker 1: That was the time Lion Stadium.

01:03:38
Speaker 4: That was the time when I said, Yo, let me chill from drinking. You know what I'm saying. I said, let me chill fro drinkings. I ain't drinking like in three days. And I fell through that sit and I caught myself.

01:03:48
Speaker 3: I was holding like I hang it off a click.

01:03:51
Speaker 1: It's over. Was like, Yo, where the imagine they performing Lions Stadium because they were fifty and Eminem was doingadiums, not even rest Lyons Stadium. It was a big ass stage. I'm gonna be on stage. Niggas like, Yo, we heavy go. You ain't a crook son it Yo, he fell.

01:04:15
Speaker 4: Through the ship, man fell through.

01:04:18
Speaker 1: Those are good times. Man Management Tour was the best tour my life I was. I was on fed Paro and State Pro and State Paro, and they let me go on that tour. Shout out to the lawyers. Fifty guys for us. I think it was Al Hayman, you know what I mean. The lawyers was always good let us travel. You know what I'm saying. I just I just couldn't be on the bus with the gangsters. I was on fifty bus Violins Tavy yard ship. They don't want to be around the felling bus, you know, MABD m P. No, I couldn't be on that. Thanks everybody. That's Olivia.

01:04:54
Speaker 4: That's it was fire.

01:04:55
Speaker 3: That's what you think about the whole hip hop game? Now though? What you think about the stadium hip hop? As they were saying, I.

01:05:01
Speaker 5: Mean, you know what I'm saying, it changed, But you know what I'm saying, I'm not mad at it, you know what I mean. I always knew eventually that shit gonna change, you know what I'm saying. And I would be of the older generation and they'll probably make some shit that I don't understand, you know what I mean, But me being a music person, I appreciate it, you know what I'm saying for what they're doing, however they doing it even if it's not some shit that I would make, and I just I always say it like this too.

01:05:32
Speaker 4: I ain't like everything in the fucking.

01:05:33
Speaker 5: Nineties, you know what I'm saying. So I ain't gonna like everything now, you know what I mean. But there's some shit out there that I do like. So you know, I ain't mad at the state of hip hop. It's different because the technology, you know what I'm saying, anybody and their moms could put out.

01:05:46
Speaker 4: A song, so you know, I just try to focus on quality, you know what I mean.

01:05:51
Speaker 1: Now, this is the number one question. It's we getting another mob Deep album because I know Proud of You has like two man versions.

01:05:57
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know I really want you believe shout out to ALC. I want to put out another Mall Deep album. I ain't gonna lie, you know what I'm saying, because because you know why, because I have fun doing it, you know what I'm saying. Even before the album came out, just to you know, take proud of these vocals, listen to it.

01:06:14
Speaker 3: And put to put it together, you know what.

01:06:16
Speaker 5: I'm saying, and just put it together like a puzzle. It's like a it's a challenge for me, you know what I'm saying. And I would I would definitely love to do absolutely proud.

01:06:30
Speaker 1: You wrote like Tupac Man, he got like two thousand songs.

01:06:34
Speaker 4: Alchemists, Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Alchemists got.

01:06:37
Speaker 1: Some talk about the album because for the album, my favorite song was you Now and.

01:06:42
Speaker 4: Poor to Henny, Poor Henny. The album is just.

01:06:45
Speaker 3: One of those Now we do a video.

01:06:49
Speaker 4: We did a video for Love the Way with That's what you're talking.

01:06:54
Speaker 1: About, that one. I feel like I feel like even like the kids gravitated to that one record. Yeah, you know, that was the generation.

01:07:01
Speaker 5: That was one of the records that just came together, you know what I mean. We got Georgia Smith on there. You know what I'm saying. NAS's on there, p on there, and you know, even though it's like a record for the shorties, it's like, you know what I mean, everybody could relate to it.

01:07:17
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.

01:07:18
Speaker 4: Everybody could relate to it, you know what I'm saying. So I really loved the record. I appreciate it.

01:07:24
Speaker 1: You know, you think this year, next year we might get another all you know.

01:07:29
Speaker 4: I'm hoping by the end of this this year, maybe this year.

01:07:35
Speaker 5: I heard a Prodigy shout out to his daughter Taser. Shout out, shout out.

01:07:43
Speaker 2: You know she's wife, Kiki.

01:07:46
Speaker 5: Yeah, shout out to Kiki and Taser and the sun. You know what I'm saying, Little little P, little word r I P. The P's mom's Fatima Johnson, beautiful lady. She's he helped us from the from the beginning. Definitely, you know what I mean.

01:08:03
Speaker 4: And and and r I P.

01:08:04
Speaker 5: D Pete Grandma's because she the one that brought us the equipment for me to even make me. Look, you know what I'm saying, man, she paid it for it.

01:08:13
Speaker 1: Crazy. That's you told some deep ship many everything is cy so you say deep.

01:08:21
Speaker 2: That's all deep. It's cool, right, Okay, all right, it's not a course.

01:08:27
Speaker 3: Thinking about that.

01:08:31
Speaker 1: We got mom deep in the buildings rest Prodigy. We got Havoc in the Buildings.

01:08:38
Speaker 2: Album. If you don't.

01:08:40
Speaker 1: Got it's out now to make sure the album. Make sure y'all go cop that recipe to Prodigy shout his family, condolences everybody, and we out of here. It's the real report. Make sure y'all like ship and subscribed you will right. They got over there.

01:08:55
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01:09:07
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01:09:46
Speaker 3: You know what it is?

01:09:46
Speaker 12: Then?

01:09:47
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01:09:49
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01:09:57
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